From beiaardhorse at xxx.com Mon Apr 1 03:36:59 2002 From: beiaardhorse at xxx.com (Aruni J) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 21:36:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the dirty word game Message-ID: Another rainy Sunday draws to a close in the heart of Carolina. Easter--is that why the list has been so quiet of late? Easter affects me less than many other people since I'm a Buddhist and my school doesn't believe in days off. Nevertheless, there was one memorable year when Easter, Passover, and the Sinhalese New Year all fell on my birthday...'though that last probably doesn't affect any of you, either. Five points* to anyone who can figure out the year of the coincidence, and my birthday. (*cash value < 1/500 of 1 cent) I was talking yesterday to a fellow fan who was amused by the fact that B&S has a song entitled (My Girl's Got) Miraculous Technique. We proceeded to go through our albums, making salacious puns on song titles. Try it. I recommend it to you as a highly diverting activity. (and we didn't even start on _Storytelling_) ...which reminds me that I was playing the dirty word game with 20 high school students the other day (in health ed, people!). They had to come up with as many names for human private parts as possible, after which we taught them the proper names for those parts of the human anatomy. I know I haven't been 15 for several years, but wow. Slang changes. It's also a little scary that their extensive knowledge of, er, carnal matters is riddled with large gaps in understanding. Which is why we're teaching them, of course. Toy Stephen mentioned wanting to meet sinisterines in the flesh. (er...) Ditto here. Stop by for rice and curry if you're in the area. Don't worry--I'm not as bad a cook as my mother thinks I am. ~aruni _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Mon Apr 1 12:05:22 2002 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Caitlin Pigtails) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 12:05:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sinster: Can anyone lend me a calendar? Message-ID: <20020401120522.A2403@candle.btinternet.com> In the news today: "TWEE SCOTTISH POPSTERS TO SPLIT Rumours are flying that top Scottish folk-pop band Belle and Sebastian are about to split. The Glasgow-based eight-piece have released four best-selling albumbs, and composed the soundtrack to the recent Todd Solendz film "Storytelling" According to unnamed sources (Stuart Murdoch's mum), the band have "had enough" of touring. "They didn't tour at all in 2000," she said, "and getting back on the road just reminded them what a slog it can be." In addition, several of the band have had solo or side projects for several years. Singer and cellist Isobel Campbell has released two albums as "The Gentle Waves" and is shortly to release another solo album. Songwriter Stuart Murdoch is reported as wanting to spend more time "loving his car", and it is rumoured that guitarist Stevie Jackson is having trouble paying child support for his large family of love-children, who are believed to live in Dundee." In other news, the Queen Mother died. At first, I thought she would be resurrected three days later, just to remind us that royalty are appointed by God. It hasn't happened yet, though. Does anyone else think that if she'd died today instead, noone would have actually believed it? More importantly, comedy writer and producer Barry Took died too. Without him, there would have been no Monty Python -- or, probably, The Goodies. Can we have state mourning for him instead? Also in the news lately -- and seriously, I'm not making this up -- the current issue of Cat World magazine describes Tompaulin as a "rock band". I burst out laughing in the middle of the bookstore. xx caitlin "Them's corduroys, and luscious purple articles they are, too" -- Flann O'Brian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Mon Apr 1 17:26:03 2002 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:26:03 EST Subject: Sinister: Would you call me irresistible? Message-ID: <116.ee3255d.29d9e41b@aol.com> Sinister, My parents just returned from their annual retirement practice vacation in Phoenix, Arizona... I now have a statue of Kokopelli, the little devil! So I turn to him this day, and ask him what's up: Me: Kokopelli, what are you all about? Kokopelli: The ladies. Me: But I thought you were a mystical figure who ran amok with his pan flute? Kokopelli: Exactly. You don't really think that's a pan flute, do you? Me: Would you be in my band? Kokopelli: Okay. So, the B&S breaking up rumors. Are you all just pulling our legwarmer with an April Fools Joke? Because man, that is bunk. Aren't you just supposed to fool us all with tales of your cat dying, or... I don't know, pretend to lose a limb? That's the old skool April Fool's I am thinking of, I guess. I like to celebrate holidays or festivities early, personally. I consumed candy from my Easter Plastic Cup (am too old to get a proper easter basket) weeks ago. My mind has already fast-forwarded to May Day. Actually, in 2000, I celebrated May Day in September. I prepared a may basket for my dearest friend, Darcy Ruesch. Oooh! The May Basket was an old, crusty easter basket (from 1986 I gather) filled to the brim with CROUTONS and sliced lunchmeat, oooh, and atop it all--a can of pork and beans! I bet she was so delighted when she opened her door and found that treat waiting for her. In a few weeks I will be mentally preparing for the 4th of July, which is my least favorite holiday. I want to get it over with quickly. I have actual photographic evidence of last July 4th, and it ain't pretty. A quick happy birthdays to a few people--Richard John Gillanders turned 21 on Friday. Woo, yay for Richard! Mark Casarotto (of DER KAISERSCHMARREN fame) had a birthday recently, too! Today, on April 1st, David Snyder straps on a birthday cap. Tomorrow, April 2- Juicy Lucy celebrates hers as well! Me and Lauren Oranges both share a birthday on April 25th. This year I will be turning old! Lauren is turning young, still. Allright then, I have nothing at all to say. I am getting really tired of myself. Over and out, Mandee m a y "inconsolably okay" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gassan at xxx.edu Mon Apr 1 18:14:32 2002 From: gassan at xxx.edu (Richard Gassan) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 12:14:32 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Ministry of Silly Hats. Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20020401120850.028e60c8@mailsrv-unix.oit.umass.edu> Hello, all -- I am pleased to report that the week before I go see B&S in Boston and then New York (note the canny inclusion of list-related material before plunging into solipsism), I am defending my dissertation before The Committee. This affair is more intimidating than it sounds, since we've all had a healthy amount of communication (and by god that kept me off drugs - apologies to non-U.S. readers, who are not bombarded with family-oriented anti-drug(s) messages). But, more importantly: I get to buy a Silly Hat for my graduation (May 25th), and I just did that on the web. (Yes, there are sites where you can buy silly academic hats. I bought the six-sided one, for no apparent reason.) I've come to believe that one of the most important roles an academic can have is to wear his Silly Hat at least once a year. Cheers, Richard. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tsong at xxx.edu Mon Apr 1 22:26:35 2002 From: tsong at xxx.edu (Tsong) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 16:26:35 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Bitterheart Won't Spare a Dime Message-ID: <002a01c1d9c3$e7e3ca40$e64017ac@resnet.rutgers.edu> So the Queen Mother died. I was quite shocked, but then I remembered that she was very, very, very old. Finally it's kind of like spring here in New Brunswick, New Jersey. Instead of napping in the corners, the homeless ones have started their active pursue in calling girls Sweethearts. They are on a mission to make girls with low self-esteem to feel more confident about themselves. However, girls like me feel a little embarrassed and uncomfortable. They don't have change in their pockets to give to the men on mission. They could only quietly walk by, pretending not to have heard anything. I wish I had a dime to spare. -Elsa +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Tue Apr 2 08:41:34 2002 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 23:41:34 -0800 Subject: Sinister: the bluffers guide to sinister picnicking: final chapter Message-ID: <001a01c1da19$faa8f960$f81c073e@aqlzosqt> the day: wednesday 3 april the time: 2pm onwards the venue: green park, london, uk nearby the helpfully named GREEN PARK tube is a big gate which leads into GREEN PARK. this is, well, green. trees, daffodils, deckchairs etc. we will meet just inside this big gate at 2pm (in case the several tube exits confuse, the gate is next to a posh place called THE RITZ.) as the talked of bandstand is technically in st james' park and thus not that handy, i propose that we then congregate near the CANADIAN WAR MEMORIAL, which is a sort of water feature with maple leaves. from the gate by the ritz this is down the park to the right, towards buckingham palace. in case of rain: pubs not in large supply on that stretch of piccadilly, but get sinisterines together and we're bound to fnd one, so do call if we're not visible outdoors. mobile numbers as dimitra said. see you there i hope! reporting back stuff from pow! to the people to follow, which depending on your point of view is either more or less interesting than the above. luv archel xxx *************************************** Rachel Playforth buzzwords at bigfoot.com Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From anthonyeaston at xxx.ca Mon Apr 1 23:50:11 2002 From: anthonyeaston at xxx.ca (anthonyeaston at xxx.ca) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 15:50:11 -0700 Subject: Sinister: I have been lurking here long enough References: <001a01c1da19$faa8f960$f81c073e@aqlzosqt> Message-ID: <001101c1d9cf$94a3b960$bec84f18@ed.shawcable.net> I am Anthony and I am a B&S fan. I am enjoying all this talk of picnics and such. Although I live in CanadaI will be in London in May. Do you have anything planned ? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Mon Apr 1 17:41:52 2002 From: bellezc at xxx.com (Zoe) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 17:41:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: gigs and all that jazz Message-ID: hi there. i had decided not to write for sometime but hey things change.i have been very busy lately and going up an down infeelings. an emotional yo yo...unstaible people..you know how these things are.ANYWAY! first of all happy easter to all the people that yesterday was Easter. also, good luck to all the people that are starting a new life. tomorrow i am going to make a dream come true. i will see our favouite band live. by the way there was an interview of Stuart Murdoch in the Times on Saturday if I am not mistaken.i went to one of the coffee republics here in birmingham and i decided to look at the T2 since I don't buy the Times-too ight for me...- so anyway I stole the article.with my ninja moves i folded it in a small bundle, put it in my pocket and left the building. so tomorrow i will be in Manchester. i have been reading about all the plotting and planning BUT i cannot be part of it as i am also going to be visiting a really really good friend of mine whom i haven't seen for many months. i will be in Apollo though.OBVIOUSLY! so me has to go now. have fun today and tomorrow and on wed in all the pic-nics and meet ups.. love you all zoe +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From esme at xxx.com Tue Apr 2 11:58:54 2002 From: esme at xxx.com (ee fumblings) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 11:58:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: haikus revealed // week twelve // two thousand and two Message-ID: I try to muster up the energy to do an experiment. FAIR Hypothesis: The Wright family genes should be put to a stop. Brixton Soiree? I don't take up much space and I know how to make toast. Mao, or math team nerds, for that matter. I was one of them (see above). Let alone the sky. Too many snowflakes And flack to carry around. Ok. I think that was enough. Thanks for giving me another chance. Outside they turn the match into a picnic. Make a picnic of it. I read Heaney: bells and raindrops, loosed screens and straight walks. *Sunday*, he says. Hopkins shows in a red shirt. Cabbage shows in a shirt from Singapore. Walton and the boy G are devastating, all skill and incision. Can this be true? I'd like to remember more of the game itself here. Jeremy tells me of how he and Shearer spent a night on parties. Eventually I could see who was trying to steal my ticket.... But there are no red Brasilias as far as I can remember... I'll be visiting from San Francisco and most likely quite lonely. Aeronef in Lille and the Grand Rex in Paris? My french is tres mal. Hes on the list. I told you, no ego, no fries, no self esteem left. I'd see him stealing glimpses, and he'd smile and tell me I was pretty. I got up out of bed to go to the shower after a lie in. I don't know what to do. People say take it step by step, day by day. I really need to pass my drivers test, and get my gears sorted out. My ex and I have remained close friends. Which is nice but painful at times. I'll just step back and read as I have for the past few weeks. Bye! -robert. I am so grateful, and thankful for all the kind things you said to me. I fell asleep, and woke up once or twice, really really exhausted. I had two hours alone today, apart from the time when I slept. I was shocked at how kind the responses to my previous post were. Don't Know. (of course, you have to keep your tongue in your cheek some of the time. And luckily, there is one. See all you scottish people on Monday. No greenery near Brixton?!? As a denizen, I beg to differ. The Music. I don't understand what it is kids listen to these days. The Queen Mum just died. "Just" as in "recently", not "just" as in "simply". Wednesday am. Offers by email to this address and NOT the list, please. Due to ill health, I would like to try to swap them for seated tickets. I was so stupid, bloodlines on my arms and legs but I'm so frightened. I mean, I'm sure you all really have blood-and-flesh, but none I can see. Like Ken enthused, it's good practise for the release of Storytelling. I'm definitely going to end up as that cockroach. I know it. // ee fumblings // +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Apr 2 12:30:28 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 03:30:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Unofficial Edinburgh Picnic 2002 Summary Message-ID: <20020402113028.49392.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> good morning.. tis blearyberry here.... LAST NIGHTS GIG was soo good! The picnic was a success, Thanks to Sweetie for being the Fun Co-ordinator. Roughly 20 or so people turned up at various stages. We started off at the Scots Monument, and hung around for a bit before going off to the City Cafe. Afterwards, we went to The Malt Shovel. Some things from the picnic: No football, but, Michael *officially* had the biggest gob at the meet up. He fitted 7 cookies in his mouth. Then promptly managedto dribble chewd up cookie mix on my shoes. Glad I didn't wear the trainers now, otherwise there would be a dry cleaning bill being sent to that young man this morning. No football, I got some rather accusing looks, after looking after the kitty of change (�8.10) from the City Cafe, over an hour later (ok, maybe two) when I hadn't bought the pitcher we'd decided on. Look, I just like saving money, no crime in that is there? No football, but we got a guided tour of Sweeties piercings. The ones that she wouldn't get arrested for flashing in public anyway. No football, but there was much groping, and to be honest, that was more fun, and you can sit down while doing it with a glass of wine in your hand. Ken Chu, you wish you were there. So do we, cos our victims of random gropes stopped coming near us after a while. (me, breams, and pigtails) No football, but half us wandered to the gig, via the chippie. It was ace, actually pretending to be a menacing bunch, and scaring pedestrians off the pavements. Except one man. Only one man actually walked straight through the middle of our gang of hoodlums and ruffians. One man, could challenge the mighty force of Idleberry's gang of deliquents. One man, only one man, in an overcoat, was brave enough to withstand the Sinister "homies". And it took us a few moments, to realise it was Stuart Murdoch. In fact, he'd walked straight past us, and it was pigtails who realised. I didn't think t was, I just thought it was some random old bloke, and lets leave the poor old man alone, eh? So we shouted at him, and he gave us a wee wave, and we all giggled like a bunch of thirteen year old girlies queueing up outside a record shop to see a boyband. Well, Pigtails did. We would have seen him properly, if we weren't all looking at the ground having had too much to drink (myabe that was just me) and if he didn't look like someones dad in that overcoat. If only Mr Murdoch would wear his skin tight t shirt more often than the overcoat.(its lovely! I bet when its cold you can see his nipples properly- you really can see his chest and its very defining on his sholders and upper arms even when you're standing miles away. God knows how he managed to get the thing back on after our night of passion- I dunno, I left him early in the morning, I had things to do, you know. I can only think he might have helpers to squeeze it on. Either that, or he spray paints it on) some of the Songs played: ( I know you like these lists) Lazy Line Painter Jane The State I am In You made me forget my dreams Don't leave your tights on baby The Model Wrong Girl Legal Man Dirty Dream Number 2 Seeing other people Waking Up to Us various songs from the new soundtrack album thing. cover version of Brown Eyed girl I can't remember what else.. if anyone else has songs to add, please do. Cheers snogs and gropes Idles ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark.hester at xxx.com Tue Apr 2 16:02:32 2002 From: mark.hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester) Date: 2 Apr 2002 15:02:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: you have the guts to tell me that??? Message-ID: <20020402150232.19393.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Wed Apr 3 00:58:43 2002 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 15:58:43 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Fw: music by belle and sebastian, visuals by slipknot Message-ID: <000901c1daa4$2f8631e0$d931073e@aqlzosqt> POW! TO THE PEOPLE or, I WAS SURPRISED I WAS INDIE FOR A DAY I arrived at the Monarch at about 5.30, having found Ken, Marianna and Greg loitering with intent at a service station. Once inside, I was momentarily blinded by the light glinting off the indie glasses of 200 or so troubled teenagers, but soon found myself in my favourite position of being in a confined space with a load of gorgeous sinisterines past and present, including Ben Apps, Mark C, Ally Cook, Sarahs x 2, Paul H, Stevie T and a host of other old skool siniboys and girls. SHE CAME FROM GREECE SHE HAD A THIRST FOR KNOWLEDGE At some point a leather-clad vixen answering to the name of Kalliope arrived with her champagne-addled entourage of Ruvi, Paul and Nicholas, and everyone within reach had the breath affectionately squeezed out of their bodies. KENCHU FAN Bands were largely ignored in favour of alcohol (including illicit vodka and red bull from I can't imagine what source...) But Camera Obscura were delightful (especially a certain foxy yet modest keyboard player who we weren't trying to put off by making faces, honest.) Another modest soul was Ken Chu, who didn't let it go to his head when we discovered that someone - possibly involved with National Pop League? - has been hawking 'I Love Ken Chu' badges to impressionable young boys. (For the benefit of the ladies, Ken did look particularly ravishing in his new string bean jeans...) SWISH COTTAGE Some dodgy pizza, several drug dealers and one in depth conversation about S Club 7 later, we were bodily ejected from the building and various people struggled with their large instruments before Ken, Marianna, Sarah, Paul H and I followed Ben Apps to his palatial residence. Two bottles of wine later and we were in the middle of a full-blown (and revealing) karaoke session. About which I will only say: Ken Chu and Dolores O'Riordan - separated at birth. THE BOY WITH THE EQUITY CARD Another highlight of the small hours was witnessing a virtuoso appearance on REAL TV (well, Holby City) by Ben's brother, aka eligible bachelor of this parish, Will Haigh. Whom we hope is available for weddings, birthdays, bah mitzvahs etc? DIRTY DREAM #1 My final waking thoughts were confusedly filled with ecstatic murmurs from Ken and Marianna, who seemed to think they were in bed with Isobel Campbell and Stevie Jackson respectively (I think it was that way round - I was very sleepy.) A FAMILY'S LIKE A LOADED GUN Then after a slightly delirious #sinister session the next morning (in which I think Lindsey Baker picked me out of a blind date style line up but subsequently dumped me for Ken and his Karma Sutra), I went back to Streatham and played dysfunctional families for a while, discovering that my dad won't let my step-sister's boyfriend in the same room as him, and all of my 17000 step-cousins are still little shits. I made my slightly guilty escape just as my mentally ill uncle arrived unannounced, and wandered aimlessly round London with my friend Cat for the rest of the afternoon. I would have found this a lot less depressing if there had been any BLOODY PUBS OPEN. Still, I got to walk over the millennium bridge and witness the exciting 'Queen Mother still dead' bustle around Clarence House. Now I have a whole day of rest and recuperation before joining my fellow picnic mummies in entertaining a much happier sort of family, and THEN BRIXTON BECKONS!!!!!!! Carsmile Steve still has my ticket and is in France, but i'm sure it'll be fine... Luv Archel xxx *************************************** Rachel Playforth buzzwords at bigfoot.com Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Tue Apr 2 15:33:34 2002 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Caitlin Pigtails) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 15:33:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: shouting at people in the street Message-ID: <20020402153334.A5901@candle.btinternet.com> Woo, two posts in two days. I must calm down more. I'm going to send another soon too, cos I promised Amy Applejacks that I'd do another Sinister Questionnaire to replace her abortive one. But that will have to be for another day. So, there was a gig here last night. And, of course, if there's a gig then there has to be a Sinister Picnic before hand. After checking that the permit from the International Picnic Licencing Authority had arrived, I went up to Princes St Gardens to see who had turned up. Nobody had. Fortunately, five minutes later, Sweetie appeared. As soon as she did, it started raining. Slowly, a few more people appeared, and we sheltered underneath the Scott Monument wondering what to do. The obvious answer, of course, was to go to the pub, so we did. We sat in the City Cafe and drank and ate, and more people arrived. However, the City Cafe is a bit of a big pub by our standards. I mean, we didn't actually outnumber and intimidate everyone else there. So -- after a brief diversion to the railway station to meet another five people -- we went to a smaller pub, the Malt Shovel, and moved all the furniture about and took over a whole room. More people arrived, and there was lots more eating, drinking and bum-groping. "Cheapskates!" said the barmaid when she noticed we had brought our own crisps to eat instead of buying the pub's expensive ones; she stole a cookie from us, though. About sevenish, we realised the doors of the gig would be opening, so we thought "maybe we should wander vaguely in that direction." We split up, some staying to drink more, some wandering towards the gig via the chip shop. Mmmm, grease. Anyway, we were wandering vaguely towards the gig, below the castle. And ... I saw this man walking towards us. He looks familiar. I've seen him before somewhere. Middle-aged, he looked, in a big brown duffelish coat. We are a big, intimidating crowd of tweefolk, walking directly towards the B&S gig. He is someone who looks astonishingly like Stuart. I look closely at him: it must be him. But noone else has noticed! I prod everyone "wasn't that Stuart?!" "Who? That old man?" they reply. He's fifty yards down the street now. Someone turns and shouts back: "STUART!!!" Up the street, he pauses. He turns and waves, then carries on walking. The gig itself was good, although for some reason it seemed slightly unreal compared to all the others I've seen; probably because we were standing right at the back dancing like maniacs (well, apart from me, cos I don't dance). The mid-set audience request (Brown-Eyed Girl) seemed rather well rehearsed, probably because it was a requested by a couple who are getting married next week and had got in touch with the band already. We still didn't get to find out the answers to the treasure hunt. I really have no idea what the setlist was -- I can vaguely remember what songs were played, but not what order they were in or anything. Ask someone less drunk for help. Hello to everyone that I saw at the picnic and after: Sweetie, Idleberry, Andy from St. Andrews (who sounds scarily like Dylan Moran. If you're deaf like me), John and Peri (our men in Slovenia), Thomas and Julie (our men in Coatbridge), Gordon (our man in the white suit), Wide-Mouthed Mike, Breams, Rachel Sunnyset, Zozie, Paul and Lorna (silly!), Lucy (juicy!), David Moore, Lixi, Ailsa (retired, injured), Jo and Ian, Jo's Dad, Cal and Debbie, the famous Mr Ally Cooke, and anyone else I've forgotten about. I hear a Cult Of Ken Chu has started up in London, complete with badges and everything. Not before time, I say. xx caitlin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unstablemable at xxx.com Tue Apr 2 19:21:59 2002 From: unstablemable at xxx.com (unstable mable) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 19:21:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: KPYC Message-ID: Just who is this kenneth p y chu? I keep reading about him, and last night i had a dream about his name. It is all very sinister, if you ask me... _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carmellie at xxx.com Tue Apr 2 19:46:25 2002 From: carmellie at xxx.com (Carmellie) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:46:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: list abuse (pertaining to travellers and Europeans) and mishearings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020402184625.38346.qmail@web11607.mail.yahoo.com> I have one big list abuse and then a little content later. I'm leaving for Europe in 6 weeks and need to know of some reputable places to stay. Since we're such an international group and so many people here have travelled, it seems to me, I thought I'd ask you. So, if you have any suggestions for the following cities, please email me privately: Sevilla, Spain Lisbon, Portugal Santiago de Compostela, Spain San Sebastian, Spain Bordeaux, France Paris, France Munich, Germany Salzburg, Austria Barcelona, Spain Any help is greatly appreciated! Secondly, one of my favorite sections on the Jeepster webpage is the mishearings section. Some of the things people have heard are so funny. I still can't get the wrong line out of my head for Legal Man--where it says "L-O-V-E love, it's coming back it's coming back", I thought for the longest time it was "Oh, the vegan love, it's coming back it's coming back"...which made sense because I thought I heard something about some of the band members being vegan. Oh well, i'll just sing it my way merrily and get funny looks :). Carmel ===== "i may have got an invitation but i wasn't invited. but i thought that this meant something more than broken hearts and new addictions." --Death Cab for Cutie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcbots at xxx.nl Tue Apr 2 22:11:06 2002 From: marcbots at xxx.nl (marc bots) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 23:11:06 +0200 Subject: Sinister: to plug Message-ID: hello sinister, it's been a while since my last post and so many things have passed, for the better or the worse. is that regular english? probably not. for the past few months i've been following a course on english academic writing, but i don' believe it has helped me much. in fact we just repeated the basic grammar rules, together with certain things dutch people do wrong all the time. you can probably still pick those out. only four nights of sleep left. only four days of anticipation, before we drive to dordrecht, drop our stuff at my friends home, and take the train to rotterdam. then, first see isobel and after that belle and sebastian will be playing from 22:00 to 23:45 and i will be there for every second. i'll bring an empty bottle, just in case... the press keeps talking about the 'shy' band b&s, and that it is a chance you should not miss if you like 'pure, melancholic pop'. well i do, and i won't miss it. i'm starting to get nervous. shameless plug: my band just got a website. check it out if you like, and listen to our demo. not brilliant, but not too bad for just a single of recording and mixing. i'd love to hear any comments. it's at: http://www.geocities.com/machatte_808/index.htm now i'll sleep and leave only three nights before saturday. love marc +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From figure2 at xxx.net Tue Apr 2 22:31:44 2002 From: figure2 at xxx.net (figure2 at xxx.net) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 23:31:44 +0200 Subject: Sinister: hey, dishy: I got your towel right here! Message-ID: <20020402213144.OJZZ25585.fep02-svc.ttyl.com@localhost> If your eyeballs be the surfaces of a cortex; My nostrils exhausting my lymphatic system whilst Also breathing in: If these ears have as much inside as they are prone to without; If I swallow and learn; If I project and reap the distortions of our reflections: Am I closer? Idles and 'Caitlin' have posted about the recent gig and therefore I don't have to. Was the gig good? A reviewer for Edinburgh's *Evening News* thought so, although Ms. Mullaney seemed perhaps even more impressed by the fact that the merchandising included a tea-towel. Does anyone have one of these? Do they absorb sufficiently, but not too much? I thought the Usher Hall was a bit big. I took some photos of list people and various abstract shots of spotlit balconies and folks onstage to pass the time, and successfully refrained from singing along to the refrains. I'm really glad I pushed myself to the 1pm meet-up at the Scott Monument though, because I very nearly didn't. Such interesting and huggeable people shouldn't be missed. Waiting for the last train home, I sat in a vaguely lotus position at the edge of the platform and wrote in my notebook as legs milled around. The writing is legible but the content is not worth repeating. Anyone who's had the misfortune of being party to one of my late-night monologues will know what I mean. So. Up again at the craaak of dawn. Radio. World Service. According to Ms. Spink of Penn State University, people are now less keen to type 'sex' into their search engines than they did 12 years ago. This is based upon data compiled from the 'Excite' search engine. Lightweights. I use Google, and Ms. Spinks's prying eyes can stay away. Anyway, she mentioned that most people looking up sexual content couldn't spell, which probably means one of two things: a) they were feeling too horny to be bothered or b) they were of the not inconsiderable body of people on this planet for whom English is not a native language. More curiously though, frequently typed queries were of the ambitious sort, artificial-intelligence wise. Examples: ' should I marry my girlfriend' and 'should I have an abortion'. My bet is both were typed in by an IT consultant with a twisted curiosity. *Rule, Britannia!...What Shall We Do With The Drunken Sailor!* follows in some age-old melody that makes you want to stand up and salute as the time passes 05:30am and the frequency swaps the World for the Home service 4. 'Rain later; good becoming moderate. Shannon...' I slurp some super noodles and wish myself down onto the train and back to sleep, lulled by Benjamin Schmidt playing Bach's Partitias for Solo Violin. Morning in the office working on empty, a bacon roll from the staff canteen and a neckful of *Pro-Plus* caffeine tablets gave way to an afternoon, not of hangover but that melancholy you get when all the fun is in the past. I surreptitiously slip a blank floppy into the computer and open Word in a minimum-sized window whilst fiddling with a house plan I'm adapting (fairly unsuccessfully) for 'varying needs' i.e. houses that can accommodate people once they get old or become disabled in some way or another. Problem is the rooms are just too minimally-dimensioned to begin with so the extra space required simply doesn't fit if you apply the appropriate standards. In any case, I'm feeling bored and lonely and so I try to write this there but I can't. If you think this is bad you certainly wouln't want to read the sheer dreariness of what I was struggling with there. I eventually gave up because it was so crap it was painful: you know... lame witticisms and flights of fantasy that ! wouldn't be the envy of a lackadaisical positivist.Working life gets one down, but not down far enough to make it interesting. I prefer my job when I'm not trying to think or imagine. Then, I quite like it. OK. No more to say, except: THANK YOU to John and Peri (is that how you spell it?) for great conversation Idles and Sweetie for being your wonderful selves Will... ditto Lucy for getting Richard John Gillanders a ticket and Richard John Gillanders for having the wisdom to check out the Czech Republic (and I got the ticket) The girl who stole my original ticket (I hope you made use of it) Breams, who came all the way from London to see me rather than Idles (but of course;-) Andy with 'phone and plan I'm just singling out people I talked with (at?) for more than a few milliseconds. I spied Lorna from a distance, mingling with the Dundee posse. Before I start sounding like I'm 'phoning into some pathetic radio show '*and everyone else that knows me*' I shall stop. There. Wasn't hard. Engine's ticking over a bit, triggering the fan, whirring docile and in electronic overtime. Gordon x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sillylorna at xxx.com Tue Apr 2 23:46:19 2002 From: Sillylorna at xxx.com (Sillylorna at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 17:46:19 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Edin last night, by lorna Message-ID: <58FBEC3D.44FC411A.0CBD0065@aol.com> Hi Peeeps. Last night was soo much fun, I was at the front, on the bar along with the "dundee posse" (copyright gordon) lol we had nice views, I like chris best, cause he's nice, and he smiled at me, which was nice too! hmm.. what else.. Oh yeh the picernic, Paul and I met loadsa peeps at the station, although i have no idea who most of you were, ones i can mention are, will, gordon, rachel, dimitra, jeremy, and sweetie! Upon reaching the pub we got slightly peckish and set out to find KFC. we got lost, So ended up back at the station eating BK, which was nice. On sunday rachel sunnyset had a partyyyy which was good fun cause i met some peeps and had a ball (archeology included) we had some nice potatoes and chicken too, which resembled a ballerina, cause it was pretty with oranges and stuff. stuart spoke to me during the concert too, which was nice. Ok folkerinies, Bed time night night Lorna +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Apr 3 00:20:20 2002 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 00:20:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Edinburgh Setlist Message-ID: <000b01c1da9c$fb521b20$bb8101d5@oemcomputer> Hi All, Usher Hall, Edinburgh: Fuck This Shit (instrumental) (coyly referred to as F.T.S. on the setlist) Dirty Dream #2 The Magic Of A Kind Word The State I Am In Seeing Other People String Bean Jean Seymour Stein Wandering Alone Don't Leave The Light On Baby The Model Browm Eyed Girl (Van Morrison) Lazy Line Painter Jane The Boy With The Arab Strap You Made Me Forget My Dreams Is It Wicked Not To Care Judy And The Dream Of Horses I'm Waking Up To Us The Wrong Girl There's Too Much Love Legal Man Another Girl, Another Planet (The Only Ones) Some teaser known only as "Banchory" (who could that possibly be?) said they played Scooby Driver during the soundcheck. Grrr. Maybe tomorrow night? Great set - first time I have ever seen my all time favourite Belle And Sebastian song played live (I think), excellent choice of covers & only a couple of less well-liked (by me) songs. More later about around and at gig stuff I guess. Gotta go to bed now. But still time for a plug :) That nice Mr Ant Harding is playing a couple of gigs before he pops off to Sweden for a while: you can catch his beautiful performance at RoTa on Saturday 13.04.02 or at Track & Field on Saturday 20.04.02. New album now scheduled for 29.04.02 release, although I think you can buy it from http://www.fortuneandglory.co.uk/ now. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ssonner at xxx.com Wed Apr 3 00:19:06 2002 From: ssonner at xxx.com (Sarah Garrett Sonner) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 23:19:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: your booty don't stop Message-ID: Criminy! It's been ages. Gumption and chattiness take time to accrue and intersect and lately I'm all action and no talk, especially should the action be participation in sporting events, be they bowling, ice dancing, ice staggering, footie watching and subsequent drunken stumbling. So hello again. Suggestion for enjoyment of this post: imagine I'm cute and wearing fishnets and hotpants. This Easter finds the resurrection of... HEADINGS my favorite postal affectation. Chris Jones used them, and Chris, if you bring scissors to the pre-Brixton picnic I'll give you a haircut--I'm good at cutting all hair except my own, which is why I haven't had a haircut since the regrettable wannabe Gregory's Girl forced bob of nearly two years ago. Egads! It's time for a trim. REPORTING BACK, WAY BACK Beans just DJed recently. Did anyone go and revel in the funk? Miss JennPB and I had so much fun dancing to his Funky Four Corners set at New Year's that we were sure our arches fell, and we were dead happy about it. We managed to hobble down Sauchiehall street towards our hotel along the frozen streets, skirting the kilted men airing their parts in the cold, squabbling couples, slick spots and strappily-attired ladies. I carried a priceless Polaroid in my pocket of Jenn and I posed with some newsboys, taken earlier that evening upon their mistaking us for Chloe Sevigny and Tara Palmer-whatever. That evening we also ate the world's best curry courtesy of the Wee Curry Shop of Buccleuch street, then spotted palely colored popstars at the other 13th note and contained our over-excitement with beer and the finest table football this side of the mid-Atlantic ridge. CONTEMPLATIVE BIT There was something about finally visiting the city of origin of a band that's occupied my "favorite" categories for so long that made things fall into place somehow. I suppose it's much along the lines of the reasons literary tourism can make sense--to see the same things, physically occupy the same space as that of an artist whose work affected you far away in space and time. Half pilgrimage, half exploration. Only more interesting and less intellectual than I am making it sound here...it was sunny the day we climbed the necropolis, tipped into the category of amazing for its view of the city--the dead and their monuments ranged like an audience for the river valley and mountain ridge with its delicate single line of fog-blurred trees in the distance. So many cities place their dead in out-of-the-way locations, not occupying real estate with prime southern exposure. Next to this, a very shiny industrial structure bloomed--the kind of thing that seemed as if it was made entirely out of stainless steel, as if toast or coffee would come out of it, not fumes or flame. MORE CITY NOTES Jeremy mentioned a quest for green space near Covent Garden. Handy tip: there's a small park hardly anyone seems to notice, right opposite the entrance to Temple tube but raised from the Embankment and I forget what it's called. Though it's about ten minutes' walk away from Covent Garden, every time I go in there to sit with the stark rosebushes and kill time before my classes start, no one is in there. I recommend it if you're around there and looking for a parkish place. REPORTING NOT SO WAY BACK The sparkly Rachel F and I wore suitably textured tights for the occasion of Tigermilking. Though it took awhile for everyone, apart from a few impressive pioneers, to work up to dancing (and though I'm guilty as well, kids, we all know if you can't get it up you may as well stay at home). The smut quotient was raised to an acceptable level thanks to Ken's interpretive dance to concepts like "arab strap," "best sex she ever had," and "famous for showing her chest." Though I recall he had some help on the last one. I embarrassed myself by saying incoherent things to several people I'd never met before, and was recognized by a lad I'd met at the same event a whopping two years ago, which impressed me greatly. DID THE GROPING IN A COWBOY HAT Archel reported on the Pow!erful Indieness of last Sunday, during which time Marianna and I separately attracted the attentions of at least one other friendly Camera Obscura spectator. Hoo boy, that was a tightly packed room. It was good to see the band play again and admire their stylin' footwear and fashion sense besides the tunes. YOUR FOOTY DON'T STOP It was quite educational to see the fitba Battle of the Lists. I think our side yelled more at/to each other, which might have served the same purpose as the Japanese martial arts "kiai," allowing for expression and thus further utilization of the youth and speed advantage for the thorough trouncing dealt to the opposition. Some nice ladies named Rachel, Rachel, and Dimitra gave me liquor, then the deceleration of the day found me centripetally drawn in to a discussion of literary matters and debate of the true meaning of "jangle". I would have been a voice of ignorance but for the fact that I am quiet in the first place and thus my ignorance can (and should) remain an aspect of my mystery. RUCKUS Lo many long seasons ago, another Jones, this one a Mike, posited: >>i laughed rather hard when i read the suggestion of "yo! belle and sebastian" for the new LP...perhaps belle will change her name to "the IZA" and struan will be "ol crusty wanker" from now on. oh, i cannot wait. >> [I can't get the right link copied to this, but you too can type in "crusty wanker" in the search engine and hey presto!] I believe that the new song titles bring this closer than ever to being a reality. I bet titles like Enter the twee (Glasgow style), B&S clan ain't nothin ta f' wit, Da Mystery of Celloplayin', etc. could be around the corner. Okay I'll stop right there. I recall mention of the method of composition of these songs, that they were directly influenced by the band's viewing of the movie in progress and then composing according to the movie, and so I assume a certain uh...removal? Someone tell me how incorrect I am. ASSESSMENT --->attempted to flirt --->used headings --->cursed --->mentioned Ken Chu If you have been affected by any of the issues raised in this post, please feel free to contact the SGS Action Line at the address above. Look out Brixton! Yours with spring-like girlish glee, SGS PS When's the next London bowl-a-thon? It's time I got up the guts to challenge Ken's DDR supremacy, since I can't surpass his bowling style or prowess. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carmellie at xxx.com Wed Apr 3 01:33:04 2002 From: carmellie at xxx.com (Carmellie) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:33:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Edinburgh Setlist In-Reply-To: <000b01c1da9c$fb521b20$bb8101d5@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20020403003304.88184.qmail@web11606.mail.yahoo.com> Oh I'm so jealous that you got to hear LLPJ! I was praying and hoping for that song all three nights I went to see them last year! I will just have to get rich someday and follow them around until they play it--and after they play it too! carmellio :) --- David Moore wrote: > Hi All, > > Usher Hall, Edinburgh: > > Fuck This Shit (instrumental) (coyly referred to as > F.T.S. on the setlist) > Dirty Dream #2 > The Magic Of A Kind Word > The State I Am In > Seeing Other People > String Bean Jean > Seymour Stein > Wandering Alone > Don't Leave The Light On Baby > The Model > Browm Eyed Girl (Van Morrison) > Lazy Line Painter Jane > The Boy With The Arab Strap > You Made Me Forget My Dreams > Is It Wicked Not To Care > Judy And The Dream Of Horses > I'm Waking Up To Us > The Wrong Girl > There's Too Much Love > Legal Man > > Another Girl, Another Planet (The Only Ones) > > > Some teaser known only as "Banchory" (who could that > possibly be?) said they > played Scooby Driver during the soundcheck. Grrr. Maybe > tomorrow night? > > Great set - first time I have ever seen my all time > favourite Belle And > Sebastian song played live (I think), excellent choice > of covers & only a > couple of less well-liked (by me) songs. > > More later about around and at gig stuff I guess. Gotta > go to bed now. > > > But still time for a plug :) That nice Mr Ant Harding > is playing a couple of > gigs before he pops off to Sweden for a while: you can > catch his beautiful > performance at RoTa on Saturday 13.04.02 or at Track & > Field on Saturday > 20.04.02. New album now scheduled for 29.04.02 release, > although I think you > can buy it from http://www.fortuneandglory.co.uk/ now. > > > Love, > > David Moore > Chelmsford, UK > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing > list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. > To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe > sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: > http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, > looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly > deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME > April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" > - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - > NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa > +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! > +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ===== "i may have got an invitation but i wasn't invited. but i thought that this meant something more than broken hearts and new addictions." --Death Cab for Cutie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETypeJoe at xxx.com Wed Apr 3 02:36:08 2002 From: ETypeJoe at xxx.com (ETypeJoe at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:36:08 EST Subject: Sinister: don't waste your words, i don't need anything from you Message-ID: from months of sini-lurking to a couple of glorious hours (well alright about an hour and forty if you're going to be so pedantic about it) lurking at the left hand side of the manchester apollo. what another glorious gig then! (you'll note that this post is just sooooooo full of content, content, content, just to exhaust my content quota so i can lurk until, oooh, at least 2003). unfortunately this post will not be quite as long as advertised in my head - you can blame the lovely arriva buses for, well, just not being arsed to send the last bus to turn up at stretford arndale - its a long story that i won't bore you with, suffice to say travel plans were somewhat complicated by a local train strike, but i cannot scold the working man or woman for exercising the right to strike, particularly in the town where some blokes called marx and engels wrote some pamphlet or other. i think the only trains that were running seemed to be heading to york, so some on sinister should have been okay, eh gina? regardless, it should not take as long to get from one side of manchester to the other as it does for a popular scottish beat combo to bring joy into our hearts. for those of you who don't know the manchester apollo is a very grand venue - its the carpet that sticks to your feet that does it for me. its not exactly the most intimate of venues, but long gone are the days when you can see struan's pupils even stood at the back. that sounds like a gripe - its not meant to. i can't be doing with people espousing elitist *oh i only go to see bands play in venues the size of phone boxes* type attitudes (isobel prolly wouldn't get her cello in in any case) - those of us lucky enough to see the band play should appreciate them whereever they are playing. i actually had a bizarre image halfway through the set of watching belle and sebastian play in ten years or so in some arena or other with my currently 6 year daughter megan, and being way at the back and having to watch on the screens. i don't think it would ever happen, but who knows? as long as they promised not to cover *the final countdown* or summat like that... anyway i digress - at least the apollo has *some* character unlike the soulless academy... i did intend to be really helpful and note the setlist. i even had the back of my bus timetable and my wee pencil i got free from a date with ikea ready - i got a song or two in, but it was a bit hard juggling a floppy plastic glass of overpriced lager so i gave up. hopefully someone far more talented can post it on here (or at least someone fleet of foot or hand enough to grab an actual setlist). anyhow, a lot of similarities with embra as far as i can recall - no *the state i'm in* or *llpj* sadly, but we did have *string bean jean* in common, and we got *me and the major*, *there's too much love* and *sleep the clock around* - we doubtless got other gems but my memory fades ever more quickly these days. tonight's mid-set cover was not as i had hoped *the queen is dead* (would that have been in poor taste?), but a wonderful *suspicious minds* - i think stevie has a great future career as an elvis impersonator - maybe stuart david just got a bit confused on *a century of elvis* after all, and... oh yeah i was telling you about the gig wasn't i? there was the obligatory *legal man* to end the set, but it metamorphosised (not a reference to the manchester treasure hunt i must add, for those of us who looked - when do we get all the answers by the way?) into *i am the resurrection*, which was played a damn sight better than when i last saw the roses play it live - goddamn, it was in tune! i swear that struan played a bar or two of the bassline to *transmission* by joy division as it changed back, but that might just be me hearing things. anyhow, i've rambled for longer than i thought i would and i have to find an phone number for arriva so that oo can rant at them tomorrow - lucky them! yours from the outer suburbs of lurkerdom, jonny xx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Wed Apr 3 10:17:10 2002 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 09:17:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: And Lo! Robin was smote from the heavens! Message-ID: Last night I was struck by lightning*. Well, my house was anyway. I was watching A History of Striptease on Channel Four when there was a huge roar, bigger than an elephant's sneeze. The telly went black and blue sparks began to leap from the socket. At first I thought I was being smote by God for thinking lustful thoughts, but as I've never been smote before I must have been confused and it turned out just to be a bit of bad weather. My dad told me to go outside with a torch and make sure the chimney was still on. My dad's a bit paranoid about things like that. When there were thunderstorms at home he always used to get us to sit in the nook under the stairs. Well, he'd say, one day you'll be grateful. I just felt a bit stupid. Now, onto some PROPER content... Belle and Sebastian have a new album out! here's a picture of it... http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00005OM56.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg At first it reminded me of Sinister, then I realised that was just because it was red. Then it reminded me of Fold Your Hands..., then I realised that was just because of the two girls on the cover. I think I must be a bit simple. It looks like the one on the right is doing a bit of needlework. Maybe she�s making another hat. It's a unlucky how at first glance it looks like its called Torytelling, isn't it? There was an article about some Scottish tosspots in The Times, too http://www.thetimes.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-47-250645,00.html Ooh! The kettle's just boiled! Bye! Robin * "lightning" not "lightening", as i first spelt it. Apparently "lightening" is: "the sensation experienced by many women late in pregnancy, when the head of the foetus enters the pelvis, of a reduction of pressure on the diaphragm." Thankfully I wasn't hit by lightening. I'd have been a little worried if I was. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From willhaigh at xxx.com Wed Apr 3 11:22:44 2002 From: willhaigh at xxx.com (will haigh) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 11:22:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: get out your dumplings; she said whilst eating a chicken!! Message-ID: hello there to everyone at sinister, i am trying as best as a can to report back from the apollo in manchester. The picnic consisted of 5 people sat outside a pub eating all of amy's dairylea. well no, there was a bit more to it than that... we met up at piccadilly just after 1 ish then proceeded into chorlton. we found a nice pub called the horse and jockey, and sat on the green on the front of it. the sinister gang was, nafees, amy, fiona and a bloke called anthony who came to join us... and of course myself. a few rather amusing sequences of events happened hereafter. for some reason, amy thought that we could be feeding several orphanages, as she brought more food than we could eat. amongst this food included: 1 french stick, 1 LARGE pot of dairylea, 1 LARGE bag of grapes, and 1 whole chicken!!! it might not seem like that much, but this chicken was HUGE! after munching through this feast we made our way to the dry bar in manchester. Here we met up with BIG stu, and according to amy, hes got a lot to fill!? also we met the ever so violent kay, shes lovely really...just dont go near her head or mention her ex-boyfriend, its not a pretty sight. so after being violently abused by kay, we went to the apollo. on the bus we met a very strange woman, and as the phrase 'she said, eating a chicken' was being used a fair bit, she started telling us a very good recipe for chicken soup, she said, and i qoute ' you wanna get yer chicken in a pan and then add yer carrots, then get yer flour and dumplings out....mmmmmmmmm'it was ratherv amusing, we also saw a jesus look a like on the bus that was actually a vibrator in disguise (as everytime it braked, we got a deafening noise and really strong vibrations through our seats! we missed the support band, but we were'nt really that fussed. and kay fought a way through the crowds to get us pretty darn close to the front. i did try to get a setlist for you, but unfortunatly, was unable. but i can remember some songs that were played. seeing other people me and the major im waking up to us the boy with the arab strap legal man (mixed with i am the resurection) we rule the school dirty dream number two is it wicked not to care string bean jean sleep the clock around like dylan in the movies suspicious minds (elvis) i cant really remember anymore... but it was a brilliant night, and my first B&S gig, so i was well impressed. so thanks to fiona for organising the picnic, it was fun. thanks to nafees amy kay anthony matt big stu for all making it such a good night. im looking forward to the next one!!! will xxxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Wed Apr 3 11:39:48 2002 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 10:39:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Fuck this cuntfaced arsehole dickhead shit (p.s. twat) Message-ID: Last night, in anticipation of tonight's exciting B&S gig and the coming of a new album, I found myself reading the song titles of this forthcoming (which is a lie because it is the fifthcoming) LP once again, and couldn't help thinking. With song titles such as "Fuck This Shit", containing a staggering 66.6% swearwords to normal words ratio, will the CD cover get to sport one of those "Parental Guardience - EXPLICIT CONTENTS" stickers? Featured only on all things cool such as the computer game Grand Theft Auto? And Limp Bizkit records? I fucking hope so. It's about time we get some street cred. with our record purchases. Later on that night it was getting late and my thoughts had took on a more abstract twist, the only question remained in my head was "Just who am I?" Yes, the oldest question known to mankind, except for maybe "How old exactly was the queen mum?". I remembered some Greek man once had almost found the answer to the first question, but stopped short at the post, he got as far as "I think, therefore I am....er .." before his brain juice ran out. I was determined to find out, so I turned to the Internet for the answer. I asked Jeeves, but he wasn't much help. Unless I really am the mythical hottt Russian slut "Iwanna Ukumski", which would have been nice but I didn't think my blossoms were really quite that protuberant. Thankfully, later on I stumbled upon an Internet mailing list called Sinister, and I was enlightened to find that: - Someone had been dreaming about my name - Two people *heart* me - Dolores O'Riordan was seperated from me at birth - I was in Bed with Isobel Campbell - I have the horns when I go bowling. All good, I guess, and after a bit more thinking later on still I figured out also that: - I am going to see B&S tonight! .. and I was quite happy. There had been a lot of Reportings Back on the list lately too, from London, Edinburgh, Glasgow, and Manchester, dating way back from New Years Eve up to merely yesterday. And only the one April fools joke that I could spot, brilliant. One more bit.. caitlin pigtails said: >>Also in the news lately -- and seriously, I'm not making this up -- the current issue of Cat World magazine describes Tompaulin as a "rock band". I burst out laughing in the middle of the bookstore. << Haha I had to laugh too.. Cat World Magazine! Anyway the last time I heard them live, at times, I was certain they were a Hard House kind of band, what with their distortion guitars playing the crunchy riffs. Wankers Pricks and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Now that ALL of the B&S Treasure Hunt trophies have been found, I wonder if the answers to the Treasure Hunt clues will be revealed any time soon. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john88john88 at xxx.com Wed Apr 3 12:53:52 2002 From: john88john88 at xxx.com (John John) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 11:53:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: oh miss breams, oh miss breams, can't you see... Message-ID: Dear sinister You know how some people have plans for the future, to settle down or have fun, or think of anything they might want to do in the future, by themselves or on their own, or hold back everything until things are grate & then do what they wanted to do? I had something like that. It was once upon a time, but not too long ago, I found myself in the situation of really being quite charmed by a female. She had been trying to lure me for some time although she should not really had done, and then I was sort of compelled to rush into something that I might have regretted doing or even thinking of. Before I even got a chance to tell myself no, I fell under my own conviction that the time and the person had come, and I gave her nose a kiss. It was a good nosekiss too, and I was absolutely beaming inside and out, but when I went to bed that evening I started to regret giving it away so soon. I had always vowed to keep it for someone who would appreciate it and who would ultimately be my companion for maybe ever. Maybe there was a bit of a shortlist of people who could receive one, but I would not have given them my first one because my first meant the world to me, but now it�s gone� Once upon another time, Dimitra Daisy kissed my nose, and I might have gone red, but I know I certainly smiled. I told her what they mean to me, and I wanted very much to return the gesture, but I couldn�t as I was saving the first one. But then we had a picnic next to a river in a strange city and I was able to give her what she and a lot of boys and girls deserve. Maybe I still have a hidden nosekiss that would be unique to the girl I fall in love with and marry. Either that or I�ll have to give her a shag. johnjohn x _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Wed Apr 3 14:56:56 2002 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 13:56:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Cogito Ergo Sum is rubbish Message-ID: >Ken wrote that it's autumn here in the antipode hemisphere. And I know that >the summer's gone now that I can choose what clothes I'll wear, instead of >always putting my white shirts and lightest trousers on or taking three >showers a day! i know how you feel fernando, but its the other way round here in britain. now summer's on its way i can choose what i can wear; will it be the mogwai, B&S, charlatans or new order t-shirt today instead of that old jumper or my massive parka being the only thing people see me wearing. some links for you (webcams are great!) www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/uncgi/Earth/action?opt=-p a live view of the earth from space using satalite images, this is fantastic, you can sit there for hours watching dawn travel across the globe, ooh look! all the lights in rio are turning on! cam-i.switch.ch/login.cgi?t=j&ch=1&l=0 controllable camera in central zurich, watch the trams drive around or follow random swiss people walk along by the river. www.andieandmike.org/bubblecam-push.stm the best thing on the net (apart from sinister obv.) just by clicking a button you can send a stream of bubbles flying aroung in a back yard in florida, this is truly captivating and alot more interesting than it sounds, honest! oooh, i'm so jealous of all you gig going people but i'm going to see mani, clint boon and bez DJ tomorrow night to celebrate the release of the film '24 hour party people' so that kinda makes up for it what did you do on easter sunday? i attended a punk/hardcore/emo festival in middlesbrough. 12 bands in 11 hours and a few of them were alright; jetplane landing, cursive, appleseed cast. the best band were calneva, the singer looks like eric bristow (for non brits, a big fat darts player) but this didn't detract at all actually, catch them if you can folks! do do de do de do, puppy power x Pez* ------------------------ Important. Antidisclaimer. This e-mail is not and cannot, by its nature, be confidential. En route from me to you, it will pass across the public Internet, easily readable by any number of system administrators along the way. If you have received this message by mistake, it would be ridiculous for me to tell you not to read it or copy to anyone else, because, let's face it, if it's a message revealing confidential information or that could embarrass me intensely, that's precisely what you'll do. Who wouldn't? Likewise, it is superfluous for me to claim copyright in the contents, because I own that anyway, even if you print out a hard copy or disseminate this message all over the known Universe. I don't know why so many corporate mail servers feel impelled to attach a disclaimer to the bottom of every e-mail message saying otherwise. If you don't know either, why not e-mail your corporate lawyers and system administrators and ask them why they insist on contributing so much to the waste of bandwidth. ------------------------ >Ken wrote that it's autumn here in the antipode hemisphere. And I know that >the summer's gone now that I can choose what clothes I'll wear, instead of >always putting my white shirts and lightest trousers on or taking three >showers a day! i know how you feel fernando, but its the other way round here in britain. now summer's on its way i can choose what i can wear; will it be the mogwai, B&S, charlatans or new order t-shirt today instead of that old jumper or my massive parka being the only thing people see me wearing. fernando went on to describe his belief system and to me it kinda sounded like he's an anti-jehova's witness; knocking on our virtual door asking 'have you ever really thought about no god' and thats fine, i'm not the most religeous person in the world, i've hardly ever been to church and i'm not even christened but i still believe there may be some higher authority. and if there isn't ------------------------ Important. Antidisclaimer. This e-mail is not and cannot, by its nature, be confidential. En route from me to you, it will pass across the public Internet, easily readable by any number of system administrators along the way. If you have received this message by mistake, it would be ridiculous for me to tell you not to read it or copy to anyone else, because, let's face it, if it's a message revealing confidential information or that could embarrass me intensely, that's precisely what you'll do. Who wouldn't? Likewise, it is superfluous for me to claim copyright in the contents, because I own that anyway, even if you print out a hard copy or disseminate this message all over the known Universe. I don't know why so many corporate mail servers feel impelled to attach a disclaimer to the bottom of every e-mail message saying otherwise. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Apr 3 15:10:36 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 06:10:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: 1978 flashback, painting, album covers, girlfriends, old ears new music Message-ID: <20020403141036.4970.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> I was reading about what robin wrote. I have to agree. The storytelling thing does: look like a cross between IYFS and FISHYFLAP; and it is Torytelling. Tell the tories what? to vote socialist? Its a shame, I'm sure it wasn't intended to look like that. And whoever had to design it, and then whoever approved it, mustn't have considered it, not like robin does, or me either. It mustn't have caught their eye like that. And now, and forever more, there will be a stock of records in HMV, and Virgin, and Fopp and Echo, and Missing and Avalanche and Our Price, with "Torytelling" written on it. I don't know how I feel about that. I'll buy it, but only so I can put it in sideways to my CD rack (CDs or vinyl- I dunno which to choose) and it won't show. unless they've done something similar on the side of it. My brother has got his first girlfriend, at 20. They've been seeing each other for a few months, but, he won't tell her he loves her becuase he wants to mean it. I told him to say it anyway. Never did me any harm. I've said I love you to countless chocolate bars, and not really meant it. Only to the Norwegian ones did I really mean it. Anyay, there is as always a point to my little ramblings. He was supposed to bring her over today, to meet us. Shes 16, and hes a very serious young man, my brother. He cleaned the house from top to bottom (oddly missing my room... I dunno, he could have been gracious enough to tidy it for me) and went out to whereever it is she lives, all spruced up like a spruced up spruce. And thn he called, and apparently shes not feeling well, and he doesn't think its fair to put her through the long journey from Glasgow to Livingston (poor ickle lamb). I bet shes faking it. Shes chickened out of meeting us. She could have popped an aspirin or something. If shes really ill, she could have called this morning and told him not to go over. What a chicken. And I had my pokemon cards all ready to do swopsies with her. My old boss was asking me and my pal at work (when I worked there) for some records to listen to, what the youth of today are into. So my pal gave him some records, heres some of the thoughts of a boss listening to it all for the first time. My pal sent me this by e mail to read, I thought you might like to see too. ********************************************** Hour of the bewilderbeast - Badly drawn boy - Dead brill this, though a trifle self indulgent at time - nice to hear a band that can play a range of music well rather than the same. Biggest bluest Hi-Fi - Camera Obscura - liked this nice and soft, pretty lyrics, she's got a bonny voice - what's wrong with melodies - anyway good easy listening with the occasional bit of bite, Lazy Sunday music. 3-6-9 secs of light B& S - I must be getting mushy in my old age but I like this semi acoustic mellow stuff - recommend me a CD please. Quiet is the new loud- kings of convenience. Liked this very mellow, clever lyrics and music was subtle at times very lovely. Dinner party music where the guests are mellow rather than putting the world to rights as well as general listening Peleton - the delgados - excellent really liked this. Your new favourite band - the hives - good old fashioned punk liked this although I think I may be getting past all this leaping about with diffused angry phase - though some of it's better then the original stuff that was about in the 70's. ************************** There was a whole load of other stuff too, but this is a sample. I saw a shooting star on Monday night, I made a wish but Stuart didn't come. Hmm. :-/ I've also come into a wee bit of money, after various sexual favours performed for gentleman callers. So i decided I'm going to put it into an ISA, then buy a wee car, and be the first prostitute who does house calls. only joking, I'm not a prostitute. I painted my bedroom the other day,a lovely shade of lilac. its really nice, all crisp and clean edges. I shoved all my rubbish under my bed Unfortunately, theres more rubbish than bedspace, so some of it pushes the matress up a bit. I fiure a copule of nights of hardcore sleeping should sort out that problem, and flatten it all nicely. I only put it there, becuase when by the time the paint dried and I could move all my furniture back, it was late, and I was tired and sweaty. it was fun painting. I wore an old t shirt and a sports bra, and a pair of too tight-ripped jeans, which are so old, they weren't even flared (i've been wearing flares since 1997) and the zip kept falling down on them. It was fun, I was a cross between Karate kid and Laurence Lewellyn Bowen. I had a sore wrist on Monday becuase f it.(honest, it *was* from painting). I got given this copy of Melody Maker from 1978, from the week of my birth, last summer. I was having a look through. I'm shocked to see ummer nights by grease was at number one when i popped out into the world. Seriously, if I give birth I'm keeping my legs crossed til something decent is in the charts at the time. I thought I'd tell you about the Meoldy Maker in 1978, for those of you, like me, who didn't know it then. it cost 15p, (75 cents in the US) and on the cover of this one, theres an article about Paul McCartney, the Clash, and Clapton doing a tour and an LP. Paralell Lines by Blondie cost you �3.49. On the front cover there was a promise of an article, which reads "'A LITTLE BIT KITSCH...BUT ICE COLD' It was America in the Fifties and Britain in the Sixties- could Germany be taking control of popular music as the Seventies draw to a close? Christopher Petit takes the Trans-Europe Express into the heart of the man machine... (p39)" The letters age was a giggle. "I am growing increasingly weary of tales of rock extravagance. Not so much the ludicrous promotional excesses of the companies, although I would be very interested to know how much the advertising budgets add to the cost of records I buy (incluing the less commercial records which the companies promote badly in order to concerntrate on the obvious platinum sellers); capitalism in action has never been a pleassant spectacle, and I expect the worst. N, what annoys me more are the antics of th musicians, who find themselvessuddenly wealthy and seem unable to think of anything to do with their money except waste it. Ine of the mot depressing quotes of recent months came from The Clash, who had apprently been busy emulating the boring old farts and smashing up hotel rooms, thinking that the record companies paid for the damage. Lets spell it out for them, shall we ? if CBS had paid, they would have taken the money from the fans in higher ticket prices" and so on and so forth. I thought in the 70's, everyone was a punk, who didn't bother too much about keeping hotel bedrooms neat and tidy? the chappie went onto write further "the fans do have a right to expect that the money which they give to musicians is used to ensure that the fans get as good a deal as possible in the price and quality of concerts and albums". anyway, I thought I'd leave you with those cheery glimpses into life before 1979. ;) Love, gropes idles xx ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NotATrendxX at xxx.com Wed Apr 3 17:17:18 2002 From: NotATrendxX at xxx.com (NotATrendxX at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:17:18 EST Subject: Sinister: how lonely it must be (to be going to be) in Detroit! Message-ID: Good morning! Indeed, IT IS morning(where I am). I was just curious (like a cat, unlike a small child) to know if anyone else is going to see belle and sebastian in Detroit and perhaps if anyone knows of anywhere interesting to go...? ::smiles coquettishly and scampers off:: alice. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Wed Apr 3 18:53:04 2002 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 18:53:04 +0100 (GMT/BST) Subject: Sinister: Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 18:51:41 +0100 Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC641A3F@pikachu.ntu.ac.uk> OK, time for some serious reporting back (she said, eating a chicken). There was a gig last night. You might have heard about it. You might have heard everything you want to know about it, in which case you may as well delete this now. On arrival in Manchester, the signs were looking good - they were even playing the Divine Comedy in Burger King. (although quite why I was looking at the signs I'm not sure, since I got there by train). So I headed to the pub to find a gaggle of Sinisterines. Well OK, I actually walked straight past the pub until Amy came running out onto the street yelling at me - obviously putting the name of the pub on a sign above the door would have been too much to ask... Inside were various stars of list and screen. Amongst other discoveries were that brotherly love is still alive and well in the Apps household; and that stars of TV's Holby City like to relax by eating lollypops smothered in Dairylea. Meanwhile, Cay arrived violently, and much beer was consumed. At about 7.30ish, we decided it was about time to head over to the Apollo, so we'd be in plenty of time for the support band. Of course, by the time we'd stopped at a newsagents and a bank, and been lectured on the correct method for making chicken soup by a random woman on the bus (apparently Cay should "find some flour and get her dumplings out"...), we'd missed the support act completely. Oh well, I'm sure they weren't that great. Cay violently managed to get us about 10 rows from the front, which was nice. maybe not so nice for the people standing behind me, but never mind. Didn't someone say there was a sticky carpet in the venue? where we were it was just a slippy floor covered in beer glasses. Which made dancing that little bit harder. The gig started well, with two of the best songs. But then things seemed to get a bit muted. A few people near the front were dancing their cotton socks off, but disappointingly few I thought. Maybe it was the band not putting as much energy into it; far more likely, it was that the audience around me weren't as mad for it (obligatory Manchester reference). I seemed to be surrounded by couply couples, which is never a good thing. Oh, and a ginger goblin standing to my right (if you're on the list, I'm sorry. Actually, sod it, it's as well that someone tells you; very few people look good with a moustache and bushy beard, and I'm afraid you're not one of them). At one point in the gig (I think it was during You Made Me Forget My Dreams), the girl on my right said to the bloke who'd had his arm round her all night (approximate transcription): Her: "Would you get really embarrassed now if I got down on one kneee?" Him: "Not really, why, would you?" Her: "Yes, I would a bit." Him: "That's where we're different. I really do want to marry you." For a while, I was convinced I was going to have a marriage proposal happening right next to me in the audience! After a few quieter songs, Stuart got to the 'audience request' section. His first plan was that since we were in the "music capital of the world" (cue cheers and laughter from different sections of the audience), there must be loads of people there who were in famous bands; so he was going to get them to all come up on stage and do a song. Unfortunately, the best he managed was 2 members of Alfie, so that fell a bit flat. So instead, Stevie did a version of Suspicious Minds, which was suspiciously good and well-rehearsed. The gig then proceeded more or less as expected. Alarmingly few people had the stamina to keep clapping all the way through TBWTAS (and half of them were out of time...), and there still weren't all that many people dancing by the end, but que sera sera. As usual, they finished with Legal Man, but with a difference. During the instrumental break in the middle when they normally get all the string section and so on to bang bongos and cowbells and stuff, a sudden change in the bassline brought the Stone Roses into the equation; and they segued seamlessly into a cover of I Am The Resurrection, quite possibly the greatest song ever to come out of Manchester. Much delirious armwaving later, they went back into the final part of Legal Man to finish. Now I'm not 100% sure about any of this, since I didn't write it down at the time, and it's almost certainly in the wrong order; but the setlist went something along the lines of: Sleep The Clock Around (as always, far better live than the album version) There's Too Much Love The Magic Of A Kind Word (he's still singing "Shake Mother Goose"...) Seeing Other People String Bean Jean I Want To Dance The Night Away (oops, sorry, Wandering Alone, easy mistake to make) Don't Leave The Light On Baby You Made Me Forget My Dreams Is It Wicked Not To Care? Suspicious Minds (Elvis lives...) The Model Instrumental (with Stevie on the harmonica. I think this was previously known as Tigermilk, not sure what they're callling it now - maybe this is Fuck This Shit?) Me And The Major I'm Waking Up To Us Like Dylan In The Movies The Wrong Girl Dirty Dream #2 The Boy With The Arab Strap Legal Man / I Am The Resurrection At the end of the gig, we resisted the arsehole bouncers as long as possible (if they stopped shouting at us all to leave the building, and actually hepled out in the coakroom instead, it'd be a lot quicker...) before wandering back into town. One burger and chips later, time to head for the Star and Garter for the official aftershow party; where more sinisteringes awaited us. After a while, and a few drinks, enough energy was built up which had to be used up on the dancefloor, where we were greeted by a mixture of indie tunes of varying vintage and obscurity; the inevitable Strokes record; and such classics as Teenage Kicks and even a bit of Blondie. Most of the band didn't make it, but Stuart Murdoch was there (obviously the real party animal in the band...). Covert surveillance noted that he wasn't dancing much (not really his type of music I suspect), and spent most of the night either signing autographs on the back of tickets or being chatted up by young ladies (unsurprisingly unsuccessfully). And the real anoraks out there may want to know that he was wearing a white shirt with a black jacket, but no tie. He left at about 2.30, freeing the DJ to put a couple of B&S records on for those of us who were hardy / foolish enough to be still dancing. And then we all went home. Well actually, it wasn't for a bit longer, because the first train back wasn't until 4.30am, and since it was a Virgin train it got me back here an hour later than in should have done, at nearly 9 o'clock this morning. So I'm not feeling particularly awake today (I don't do mornings. Ever. I only discovered about two years ago that 6 o'clock happens twice a day). Hello everyone who was there. And since I'm an impartial sort of person, hello to everyone who wasn't there as well. We missed you. We talked about several of you (you, over there, are a dirty old man. And you, over there, are just disgusting). It was a good night (/ early morning). Roll on the next tour... Big Stu PS We've had IYFS, TBWTAS and FYHCYWLAP; is the new album going to be known as S? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Wed Apr 3 22:06:55 2002 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 13:06:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: old hat Message-ID: <20020403210655.90665.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> hey-lo all you sinister folk. i know i havent said much lately, and i know how you all fairly yearn for my flowery testaments. :) you'll be happy to know that i am doing well. i recently discovered a mouse in my apartment, which, in addition to the numerous ants and spiders, makes my evenings quite lively. unfortunately i have no b&s content to relate (except another attempt to find out any info about pre/post chicago gig meet-ups???), instead i just popped by to share this letter that i recently read. i know that anything having to do with the whole terrorism issue in the world is considered "old hat", but i feel that all of you will appreciate this very eloquent call to love. its by naomi shihab nye, who as many of you know is a wonderful, wonderful contemporary poet. please email me back with your comments, i'd love to hear how it makes you feel. and, if you feel so inclined, please copy this and forward it to as many as you can. it's a beautiful and tender message that i believe everyone should read. truly yours, .caleb ben An Open Letter by Naomi Shihab Nye TO ANY WOULD-BE TERRORISTS I am sorry I have to call you that, but I don't know how else to get your attention. I hate that word. Do you know how hard some of us have worked to get rid of that word, to deny its instant connection to the Middle East? And now look. Look what extra work we have. Not only did your colleagues kill thousands of innocent, international people in those buildings and scar their families forever, they wounded a huge community of people in the Middle East, in the United States and all over the world. If that's what they wanted to do, please know the mission was a terrible success, and you can stop now. Because I feel a little closer to you than many Americans could possibly feel, or ever want to feel, I insist that you listen to me. Sit down and listen. I know what kinds of foods you like. I would feed them to you if you were right here, because it is very very important that you listen. I am humble in my country's pain and I am furious. My Palestinian father became a refugee in 1948. He came to the United States as a college student. He is 74 years old now and still homesick. He has planted fig trees. He has invited all the Ethiopians in his neighborhood to fill their little paper sacks with his figs. He has written columns and stories saying the Arabs are not terrorists; he has worked all his life to defy that word. Arabs are businessmen and students and kind neighbors. There is no one like him and there are thousands like him - gentle Arab daddies who make everyone laugh around the dinner table, who have a hard time with headlines, who stand outside in the evenings with their hands in their pockets staring toward the far horizon. I am sorry if you did not have a father like that. I wish everyone could have a father like that. My hard-working American mother has spent 50 years trying to convince her fellow teachers and choir mates not to believe stereotypes about the Middle East. She always told them, there is a much larger story. If you knew the story, you would not jump to conclusions from what you see in the news. But now look at the news. What a mess has been made. Sometimes I wish everyone could have parents from different countries or ethnic groups so they would be forced to cross boundaries, to believe in mixtures, every day of their lives. Because this is what the world calls us to do. WAKE UP! The Palestinian grocer in my Mexican-American neighborhood paints pictures of the Palestinian flag on his empty cartons. He paints trees and rivers. He gives his paintings away. He says, "Don't insult me" when I try to pay him for a lemonade. Arabs have always been famous for their generosity. Remember? My half-Arab brother with an Arabic name looks more like an Arab than many full-blooded Arabs do and he has to fly every week. My Palestinian cousins in Texas have beautiful brown little boys. Many of them haven't gone to school yet. And now they have this heavy word to carry in their backpacks along with the weight of their papers and books. I repeat, the mission was a terrible success. But it was also a complete, total tragedy and I want you to think about a few things. 1. Many people, thousands of people, perhaps even millions of people, in the United States are very aware of the long unfairness of our country's policies regarding Israel and Palestine. We talk about this all the time. It exhausts us and we keep talking. We write letters to newspapers, to politicians, to each other. We speak out in public even when it is uncomfortable to do so, because that is our responsibility. Many of these people aren't even Arabs. Many happen to be Jews who are equally troubled by the inequity. I promise you this is true. Because I am Arab-American, people always express these views to me and I am amazed how many understand the intricate situation and have strong, caring feelings for Arabs and Palestinians even when they don't have to. Think of them, please: All those people who have been standing up for Arabs when they didn't have to. But as ordinary citizens we don't run the government and don't get to make all our government's policies, which makes us sad sometimes. We believe in the power of the word and we keep using it, even when it seems no one large enough is listening. That is one of the best things about this country: the free power of free words. Maybe we take it for granted too much. Many of the people killed in the World Trade Center probably believed in a free Palestine and were probably talking about it all the time. But this tragedy could never help the Palestinians. Somehow, miraculously, if other people won't help them more, they are going to have to help themselves. And it will be peace, not violence, that fixes things. You could ask any one of the kids in the Seeds of Peace organization and they would tell you that. Do you ever talk to kids? Please, please, talk to more kids. 2. Have you noticed how many roads there are? Sure you have. You must check out maps and highways and small alternate routes just like anyone else. There is no way everyone on earth could travel on the same road, or believe in exactly the same religion. It would be too crowded; it would be dumb. I don't believe you want us all to be Muslims. My Palestinian grandmother lived to be 106 years old, and did not read or write, but even she was much smarter than that. The only place she ever went beyond Palestine and Jordan was to Mecca, by bus, and she was very proud to be called a Hajji and to wear white clothes afterwards. She worked very hard to get stains out of everyone's dresses - scrubbing them with a stone. I think she would consider the recent tragedies a terrible stain on her religion and her whole part of the world. She would weep. She was scared of airplanes anyway. She wanted people to worship God in whatever ways they felt comfortable. Just worship. Just remember God in every single day and doing. It didn't matter what they called it. When people asked her how she felt about the peace talks that were happening right before she died, she puffed up like a proud little bird and said, in Arabic, "I never lost my peace inside." To her, Islam was a welcoming religion. After her home in Jerusalem was stolen from her, she lived in a small village that contained a Christian shrine. She felt very tender toward the people who would visit it. A Jewish professor tracked me down a few years ago in Jerusalem to tell me she changed his life after he went to her village to do an oral history project on Arabs. "Don't think she only mattered to you!" he said. "She gave me a whole different reality to imagine - yet it was amazing how close we became. Arabs could never be just a 'project' after that." Did you have a grandmother or two? Mine never wanted people to be pushed around. What did yours want? Reading about Islam since my grandmother died, I note the "tolerance" that was "typical of Islam" even in the old days. The Muslim leader Khalid ibn al-Walid signed a Jerusalem treaty which declared, "in the name of God� you have complete security for your churches which shall not be occupied by the Muslims or destroyed." It is the new millennium in which we should be even smarter than we used to be, right? But I think we have fallen behind. 3. Many Americans do not want to kill any more innocent people anywhere in the world. We are extremely worried about military actions killing innocent people. We didn't like this in Iraq; we never liked it anywhere. We would like no more violence, from us as well as from you. HEAR US! We would like to stop the terrifying wheel of violence, just stop it, right on the road, and find something more creative to do to fix these huge problems we have. Violence is not creative; it is stupid and scary and many of us hate all those terrible movies and TV shows made in our own country that try to pretend otherwise. Don't watch them. Everyone should stop watching them. An appetite for explosive sounds and toppling buildings is not a healthy thing for anyone in any country. The USA should apologize to the whole world for sending this trash out into the air and for paying people to make it. But here's something good you may not know - one of the best-selling books of poetry in the United States in recent years is the Coleman Barks translation of Rumi, a mystical Sufi poet of the 13th century, and Sufism is Islam and doesn't that make you glad? Everyone is talking about the suffering that ethnic Americans are going through. Many will no doubt go through more of it, but I would like to thank everyone who has sent me a consolation card. Americans are usually very kind people. Didn't your colleagues find that out during their time living here? It is hard to imagine they missed it. How could they do what they did, knowing that? We will all die soon enough. Why not take the short time we have on this delicate planet and figure out some really interesting things we might do together? I promise you, God would be happier. So many people are always trying to speak for God - I know it is a very dangerous thing to do. I tried my whole life not to do it. But this one time is an exception. Because there are so many people crying and scarred and confused and complicated and exhausted right now - it is as if we have all had a giant simultaneous break-down. I beg you, as your distant Arab cousin, as your American neighbor, listen to me. Our hearts are broken, as yours may also feel broken in some ways we can't understand, unless you tell us in words. Killing people won't tell us. We can't read that message. Find another way to live. Don't expect others to be like you. Read Rumi. Read Arabic poetry. Poetry humanizes us in a way that news, or even religion, has a harder time doing. A great Arab scholar, Dr. Salma Jayyusi, said, "If we read one another, we won't kill one another." Read American poetry. Plant mint. Find a friend who is so different from you, you can't believe how much you have in common. Love them. Let them love you. Surprise people in gentle ways, as friends do. The rest of us will try harder too. Make our family proud. Naomi Shihab Nye ===== "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a harder battle." ~Plato "Love does not consist of gazing at each other, but in looking together in the same direction." -Antoine de Saint-Exupery __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sillylorna at xxx.com Wed Apr 3 23:02:15 2002 From: Sillylorna at xxx.com (Sillylorna at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 17:02:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: A question... Message-ID: <4E82571B.1BE335A0.0CBD0065@aol.com> Heya, Just been reading some post gig posts and can't help but wonder why so many people left it til ages after the doors were open to even head to the venues? My friends and I headed to the Usher Hall in Edinburgh at least 30 mins before door opening time, worried we'd not get a good spot without having to rudely posh our way to the front, past people who cared enought to queue up early. We were shocked to find we were about 10th in the line! (although I must add about 10 mins after we arrived the place started to fill up. even if some poeple did try to skip forward) Sorry if this sounds like a moan, you'll probably all hate me now but I had to get that off my chest! Lorna PS: His name's STUART! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mandy.waite at xxx.com Thu Apr 4 00:58:38 2002 From: mandy.waite at xxx.com (Amanda Waite) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 00:58:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: on brixton Message-ID: <3CAB972E.2090401@btinternet.com> hi there, first post, this that, etc, lurking, so on so forth. brixton academy had 3 huge treats for me tonight (lots of little ones too). the first was seeing life without buildings. i'm just the hugest fan and i had no idea that they were opening. PS Exclusive was phenomanonly fab (they didn't do the leanover though) the second was just seeing B&S for the first time. they were just awesome and stuart forgot nearly all of the lyrics which gave me the giggles for most of the concert. the last was seeing my fav band doing my fav song. they encored with "another girl, another planet" and i just really hope that there is a bootleg. it's a song that has huge significance to me cos' it was used in the film "different for girls" set lists will follow. i only remember the first 4 which were sleep the clock around dirty dream number 2 the magic of a kind word i'm waking up to us they also had a steel band playing "no woman no cry" anyways, see ya mandy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gpallis at xxx.uk Thu Apr 4 02:39:41 2002 From: Gpallis at xxx.uk (Greg Pallis) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 02:39:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm on another planet with Chu. Message-ID: <004901c1db79$9780a200$8855063e@oemcomputer> I was a picnic mummy, you know. Responsibility. You know what comes next. Green park. Katherine Whitehorn said "Outside every thin girl is a fat man, trying to get in". Not relevant, but damn fine nevertheless. Archel was the real organiser, and you can colour me impressed, all demure wit and bubbly charm. The books in the bag were impressively obscure. People called me dapper, that was nice. Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go. Can you say Peter Carter? Rachel Sunnyset did. Mao was played: Hannah Brown threw the cards down in a huff. I drank wine from a Powerpuff Girls mug and felt fond of my affectations. Mao was played: Zozmitria, 'Chel (later Apps), Sunnyset. People got some of the rules pretty well this time. Spaniards arrived. Yorkshiremen arrived. A Sarah arrived, from Guildford. Her nose glittered prettily. I was scared to ask if it was a piercing. Mao was played. Pub. The dandies (and dandess) arrived. Ken arrived too, looking quite the Legal Man. He brought labels and pens, the hero. The only thing to do was to make Lo-Fi badges with illustrated puns about our Red Bull swigging hero. So many highlights - I blagged Bapp's masterpiece: "A Ken Chu-ry of Fakers", but there was "Chu Ken Not Be Serious", there was "U!G!L!Y! Chu ain't got not alibi", Ken's own FreakaCHU Pokemon, Nick's "It takes CHU to tango", so many others. I stuck a spare one, another Daphne & Celeste pun, on the Gents' drier - it's time we got serious about our cult, got London asking 'Who Is Ken Chu'? Gig. Gig was flat-out fab. The 'Sebby declined to aim for a total rawk knockout - there were da hits, LLPJ, TWATTYBUS, DD#2, a moshpit-forming Judy and the dream of horses (Chu's "Judy and the dream of corpses" made flesh?). But it was the slowies that stole the show, Seymour Stein (complete with Ultra-Manly crooning), IIWNTC (and I don't care that "and if I was a seagull/ would you love me as an eagle" is wrong, it's still a lovely line). And 'You made me forget my dreams', only presentable on CD, here so wonderful that it ate my heart out with a spoon. It was a Magic Moment, honest. Pour finale, a stomptastic The Wrong Girl, then 'Another girl, another planet'. Which was ace. Duh. Home. Post. Sleep. Now, I'll make like a worried shepherd and get the flock out of here. ---- The Boy G +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elf-angel at xxx.com Wed Apr 3 15:30:18 2002 From: elf-angel at xxx.com (Bron) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 08:30:18 -0600 Subject: Sinister: a tribute to the bakers Message-ID: days of sunshine will gather us all under an umbrella of glowing individuals put your love in your hope and wrap it up till we do meet surely yes we will meet in the warmth of our thoughts schedules are demanding of us now more than we our of ourselves but summer shall arrive with great exuberance oh yes i assure you oh yes green grass and bare feet bright eyes and forever-yearning laughter will entangle us in our crossing paths one day the stars won't let us down they told me themselves as they said g'day to all us morning people and disappeared only to return for the remainder of our dreams to come to watch over us before the next day arrives only to bring us closer to soulful joy that is only delayed a short while only a short while only a short while here's a wink for luck here's a grin for promise here's a poem for friends SINISTER RAWKS. ---bron ***Sometimes you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right*** ---Jerry. http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From anakin_sky at xxx.net Thu Apr 4 11:00:33 2002 From: anakin_sky at xxx.net (anakin_sky at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 12:00:33 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Sinister: oh my god! Message-ID: <19097.1017914433@www41.gmx.net> oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. can't believe you all got to see life without buildings, i discovered them just recently and they are incredible. mmh, if only i had known... anyway, rotterdam will be lovely... -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Thu Apr 4 13:47:35 2002 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 13:47:35 Subject: Sinister: Soundtracks Message-ID: Hello again. Last night, some popstars played a concert at the Brixton Academy. Before that, some people met up in Green Park, but the Boy G has already told you about that. The gig was good, but different from the last tour � there was definitely a change in sound. This is going to sound silly, but it the whole performance sounded like soundtrack music � it was a lot more subdued and bare, but still as pretty and beautiful as ever. I have no qualms about this, because I like hearing music that is originally designed as wallpaper played live; you can hear the subtleties that you might have missed when you were watching the film or whatever. They played a very �soundtrack� version of LLPJ (without Monica Queen), which I really liked � the song was performed quietly between Struan and Stevie, it then broke down to just a drum beat, and then launched itself into something huge and anthemic for the ending. Awesome stuff. It was a good gig. Highlights for me were The State That I�m In, You Made Me Forget My Dreams and Is It Wicked Not To Care. Metro, the free newspaper commonly found discarded on vacated Tube seats, previewed the band as �brilliant but gloriously bonkers�. The assembled picnickers in Green Park guffawed at this write-up before the gig, but the description proved frighteningly accurate when, halfway through the set, Stuart introduced a steel band to the show. B&S went off, to be replaced by a bone fide steel band, who played a rather fetching cover of No Woman No Cry. I thought that this was a truly inspired, if slightly random, decision, and they really did funk up the place. Other audience members were not as enamoured with this, and I think it could be safe to say that plenty weren�t impressed. But the inclusion of the steel band served to accentuate the fact that B&S are no longer just a twee-indie band; they�re growing into a genuinely eclectic outfit. There were so many different styles of music during the gig: the sleazy lounge-jazz of Don�t Leave The Light On Baby, the flamenco maracas-fest of Wandering Alone and the punky growl cover of Another Girl, Another Planet, the reggae step of the guest outfit and of course the indie sing-along. I was lucky enough to grab a set-list at the end, and so here is the full set: Sleep The Clock Around Dirty Dream #2 The Magic Of A Kind Word I�m Waking Up To Us String Bean Jean Seymour Stein Wandering Alone Don�t Leave The Light On Baby The Model <> Yellow Bird/No Woman No Cry <> Fuck This Shit <> The State That I Am In (or Sinister) * The Boy With The Arab Strap You Made Me Forget My Dreams Is It Wicked Not To Care Lazy Line Painter Jane Judy And The Dream Of Horses The Wrong Girl There�s Too Much Love Legal Man Another Girl Another Planet ** * The played TSTIAI, not IYFS ** As previously reported, this is by The Only Ones. Apparently. Afterwards, I was accosted by Jeremy Breams and Miss Marianna, and offered a Guest Pass so that I could go upstairs for a drink with the band. Despite the extortionate prices (�2.95 a bottle!) this was a real thrill. I got to speak to Beans briefly (although I don�t think he appreciated it much � he was trying to pull) and to Struan for longer. Thank you VERY VERY much to Jeremy and, more importantly, Katrina for providing the passes � it really made my night. Right then. I�m off the Albert Memorial for a kickabout� Love Asm.x ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy" - Mary Cohen _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Thu Apr 4 17:29:06 2002 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Louise Brown) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 16:29:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: life without buildings would be a bit messy Message-ID: <1017937746.2aa91fd0h.brown6@camb.linst.ac.uk> hello, Well, the gig was fun wasn't it. The support band certainly had an infectious kind of energy. I was near the front for a bit but my head felt as though someone had sucked all the juices out of my brain and replaced it with a sort of sticky marshmallow substance, so i retired to the side. It was quite a different gig to the others i've seen, a bit choppy and quiet, i got the impression they weren't really up for playing but decided that the marshmallows in my head were sending out silly messeges so i just danced about and enjoyed it. Kieran, hope the sofa was confortable, i was gonna make some breakfast but you shimmied off, well it was good meeting another sinistereen. hello to everyone, glad i got to see ken before i left. the marshmallows have been replaced with a really clean, green liquid that is making me feel the need to do some work, thanks and goodbye and stuff, hannahxxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From raskolnikoff_01 at xxx.com Thu Apr 4 19:11:45 2002 From: raskolnikoff_01 at xxx.com (rASKol) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 19:11:45 +0100 (GMT/BST) Subject: Sinister: Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 19:10:44 +0100 Message-ID: hello little sinister-village people i havent written to the list in absolutly ages, and the reason for that is that the part of my brain that comes up with all the sinisteresque things to say has been otherwise occupied in a correspondance with somebody twee-as-fup. And she sucks all my sinister posts out of my head before they make it to the list. ***godspeed***** I was wondering has anyone been to any of the GYBE! shows, i just attended the one in dublin, and although i was spellbinded and knocked into a very pleasent introspective coma for the evening i couldnt help but notice that the listening public werent quite as cool as i expected them to be. In fact they were a mixture bedroom spanking greasy spotty guys and lots and lots of short men who kept crossing in front of me to get beers and because they couldnt see. It certainly wasnt a place for spotting nice corderoy wearing girls. Although one of the people i was with spotted a nice goodlooking man that he kept finding excuses to pass and stare at. i wont out him on the list though as he does subscribe. Has any of you heard of an oxford band called "meanwhile, back in communist russia"? *** I love my car*** A car has always held an element of wonder for me, this is not due to any mechanical interest or fetish but more to a fascination with the reality or universe it creates within its steel frame. A minor reality can be created and kept from the outside world. To drive on the rough tarmac and stare semiconsciously and passively at the hedgerows and telegraph poles slide by in a fluid like conveyer belt motion. To count the poles or cut the trees with a minds-eye scythe and enumerate the cats eyes. It has this delicious element of childhood, these little universes of music as we drive, talking and arguing with my siblings, and parents. Being sad and silent as we drive away from some place or other, or being quietly happy about some trip, full of planned out scenarios that in themselves could have been great works of fiction and unreality. I so often see a car drive by me and wonder about what goes on in its little world. Seeing some brief flash of people, one looking dreamily out of the window, the others talking or arguing. Arguments always seem worse in a car. I think it is because there is no escape. In fact it was while driving me somewhere that my father always saw fit to have a 'little chat' with me about something or other. Those 'what are you doing with your life chats' that make you wish you could disembark the hurtling carriage in dramatic Bond style. But alas once a little dynamic steel framed world is created, there is nothing to do but wait until it reaches its natural conclusion, your destination. It is only then that things all seem much bigger, less confined and more real. Some of my most poignant and unusual memories took place within these parallel dimensions. One such memory took place just after one of the biggest terrorist bombings that ever took place in the north of Ireland. It was the bombing of Omagh. I remember sitting in the car driving along, with 3 other people. The radio was on and blurting out some murmured news program. It was on merely as background noise of some routine little trip. I suddenly became interested in the program, as it was the first count of how many dead had been recovered from the bombing. The atmosphere of the broadcast suddenly changed and so to did the voices. As one by one with excruciating pauses between each and every name of those killed was read out one after the other. Usually as do most people I adopt the detached 'oh that 's awful' and the head shake view of such atrocities, because although I do think it is awful it doesn't affect me or my life. If I shed a tear for every tragedy of the world, rivers would burst there banks and seas would rise. After the names were read, a minute's silence was observed on the radio. A silence is something of everyday life, but radio silence is something so stark and unusual as to stop you in your tracks. It is not like having the radio off because there is that expectant little crackle that emanates from the speakers. A pregnant pause on the airwaves is like no other. Usually a radio is a device that can fill a car or a house with voices of opinion and reason, or music and stories. One can rarely be alone when they have the radio for company. But this channel to an external universe filled our universe with a profound sadness. No one in the car said a thing the radio uttered nothing but hiss. Outside people blurred past in oblivious movements and with smiling faces. As a tear ran down my cheek I felt this unreasonable anger toward them, as if they should somehow know what was happening in my little universe. But they couldn't. Another of these universes was affected by a mobile phone call. I had been on a trip to see some relatives and had settled into a nice milieu of atmospheric music on my personal stereo and the sight of the wind and rain furrowing a fierce weathered brow and building to catharsis with my well-timed music. I received a phone call from a friend, absolutely distraught. Another friend had been attacked and murdered and he was ringing me in the confusion. I hung up and couldn't quite focus on what I had just heard. We pulled over at the side of the county road, as other little worlds flitted by in fleeting soulless blur. Had I really heard that? Had the channel to my movement reverie world been accurate? The wind seemed to be getting stronger and in a half thought I felt it too fitting for the occasion and moment. For a second it felt horrifically staged weather, like some trite movie where someone would say something terribly moving and comforting. But it didn't happen, we sat by the side of that road in utter muted disbelief. The music still whirring with the wind in the background from my earphones a remnant of my now broken reverie. After a minute or so we started the car again and continued to where we were going. It was too late to turn back. Many people have emotional attachments to their cars; they give them names and nurture them like some kind of life form. Others view them as some sort of statement, with wide wheels twin enlarged exhausts, and stickers that utter such statements as 'no fear'. Large bass speakers in the boot and tinted windows effuse questionable statements about the owners. But a car for me is a forced reality, a dynamic sub-culture with its own subtexts and subplots. It will always remind me of the excitement as a child of going on a trip and the sad punctuations of tragedy, when someone outside the car will catch a glimpse into another world and shake their head and say; 'oh that's awful' and go about their business. ****umm something********* As i walked the other day to the sounds of the new boards of canada album on my minidisc. I noticed this construction site has erected these huge white hoardings to cover the buildings. THere was three winos standing there drinking out of brown paper bags and one had a permanent black marker and was writing these elaborate trigonometry proofs and pointing out to his compatriots the certain parts like he was teaching them. It made me think of a maths genius that lived as a hobo that i read about years ago. I wished I'd had my camera, iwished I hadnt been too shy to go and talk to them. It made me feel sad. There was also some graffiti that said slow graffiti. ****jimmycake**** has anyone heard of them/seen them live? they are really excellent. Im Speaking mainly to dublin people here.. R I C H A R D* raskol +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Thu Apr 4 21:55:07 2002 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 12:55:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: the trouble with me is that i'm trouble (detroit & chicago attendees) Message-ID: <20020404205507.81010.qmail@web14507.mail.yahoo.com> oh for heaven's sake. i don't post for over a year -- a fucking year! -- and here i am with boring, location-specific drivel. but first! holy fucking shit! i'm going to see belle & sebastian live! european listees will yawn, but for years i've been professing that surely the band must be a figment of our collective imagination, despite photographic evidence featuring one ginger fellow with our own curled_up carey. and now my theory is blown completely out of the water. okay, my main point: any of you cats going to the detroit and/or chicago shows (i'm going to both! thanks to princess christiaan and his birthday gift of tickets!) who want to make a sinister weekend out of it, email me because i have a little mailing list set up. i'll add you to it. oh and if anyone wants to sell me their chicago ticket for my poor friend cecilia who is dead broke but who was lured away from her crust-punk ways by the gentle siren song of the twee glaswegians, let me know. xo! ree! ===== . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "to me she was just marie." -mersault . . . . http://home.earthlink.net/~marieelia . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From areservoirdog at xxx.com Thu Apr 4 23:35:18 2002 From: areservoirdog at xxx.com (Timothy Meskers) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 17:35:18 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Tori Spelling (like, a play on words, with Storytelling). Message-ID: Hey everyone, A lot of this is old news. The first few paragraphs. I'd been having some problems sending to Sinister with something called RichText, and a lot of this has already been said. So, this is my third shot. Hopefully it won't be even more redundant by then. cheers, Timothy (Second attempt follows. Cover art has already been displayed, as has parental advisory query.) Hi everyone, I thought I sent this a few nights ago, but I guess it never quite made the perilous journey through my telephone cables to Sinister central. I'm trying to recreate the wittiness of the original, but it might not be as good as the original. I wanted to let you know that the cover art is now up at href="http://www.matadorrecs.com">http://www.matadorrecs.com in the B&S section. I think the girl on the right looks a bit like Ann Curry, from the Today Show. Second opinions? I'm going to the Philly show on my birthday, May 3rd. Has anyone been to the Tower Theatre before? I'd really like wait out back afterwards for the band, is that the kind of thing one can do at this particular venue? I don't know. I hear it's in a bad part of town. Imagine getting stabbed at a Belle & Sebastian show. Also, the song title "Fuck this Shit," on the new album, particularly excites me. What if it's got a parental advisory? Do they have parental advisory labels out of the United States? Hmm. One more thing, this is just a whimsical sort of thing; wouldn't it be fun if everyone from Sinister dressed up nicely to see B&S? So if you saw someone else dressed up, you could nod at them, all secretively, and they could nod back, like a little spy type thing. That would be a lot of fun. Maybe not though, if I'm the only one who dresses up. I guess you could just wear little Hello My Name Is stickers and write Sinister on them. I think I accomplished everything I set out to. 1) Enlighten as to whereabouts of new cover-art 2) Tower Theatre: Kosher to wait out back, or not? 3) Sinister secret markings; spy club? xoxo Timothy p.s. I was driving through Jersey last weekend and I saw a board for a place called the Red Bull Inn, and I was reminded of my old maths teacher, Ken Chu. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fbrito at xxx.br Fri Apr 5 02:17:07 2002 From: fbrito at xxx.br (Fernando Brito) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:17:07 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Drifting Message-ID: It's 21:05, I'm still at work... #### Listening to Damon and Naomi With Ghost is one of the most saddening experiences a man can have in his life. I don't know any of the lyrics and I don't even try to catch them. Their music and Naomi's voice, that's all I need from them. The Mirror Phase is playing at this very moment. #### I'm still at work, I have this "Mission: Impossible" Java based project... I never worked with that language before... It was supposed to be delivered last Friday but it won't until next Tuesday. And I'm sure I'll have to work on this weekend, but I don't really care, I wouldn't have anything to do anyway... #### I wrote this about two months ago, I think it's too gloomy and I'm truly sorry to push it to you, but now I feel just like I felt then, and I want you to know how it is. This is not a cry for help, you and I know who is the only person that can help me. And maybe tomorrow I will live again... I don't live today. I'm just hiding, safely waiting for something to pass me by, careless of the fact that this "thing" that passes me by is nothing but my own life. It's like I'm waiting for my own death, hoping to get through it without pain. I'm so worried about not dying that I forget to live. And I can write it in the present tense, because in spite of being aware of it, I don't do anything about it! Everyone knows their problems. I know what my problems are. And it's so easy to find a solution. But it takes a long, long way to put it into practice! Somehow I am a very lucky man! I never had to work hard for anything in my life. Everything I have came basically for free. Even the good career I've got. I didn't even look for this job, they simply called me because I enrolled in a Lotus Notes training program at my college and filled my phone number on a paper. But I haven't even finished the training! In fact even my college came by accident. I was preparing to try a vacancy at a Social Sciences course, but about 6 months before the exam I decided to test my skills in another college, and I passed the test in a very good ranking, in spite of not studying at all. So I decided to go on and leave my mother and move to my aunt's house in another town. Now I see that if I haven't tried that test I would probably be unemployed now, or living a miserable life, with a low wage job. But I've never planned any of these events, they were just coming, and I just went through them, almost unnoticeably. It's tragicomic when I'm talking with my pals at work. Like many others, we never chose to work with Lotus/IBM products, or in our current company. In fact the company chose us, Lotus chose us, and we usually laugh about this unhappy ending! Now we could be working for Microsoft (good!), but instead, here we are, in an IBM business partner (terrible!)! Lots of things in our lives change when things like that happen, and life could be so different... That is what distinguishes those who have more or less control over their lives. Me? I just live on... I'm not happy with my life, with my career, I'm not happy at all. Sometimes when I'm in front of the computer, at work like I am now, I start to think that man wasn't made to live this kind of life, spending ten, twelve hours seating on a chair, looking at the screen, pressing buttons... But then what do I do about it? Nothing! I don't know wheter I'm waiting for someone to see and rescue me, or for something to change everything, even for bad, so that I would have to take some attitude. Meanwhile, life is passing by, I'm 24, tomorrow is too late... And here I am, sitting in front of this bloody computer, wasting my time. Drifting. #### "I Don't live Today" Will I live tomorrow? Well, I just can't say. But I know for sure I Don't Live Today. No sun coming through my windows, feel like I'm sitting at the bottom of a grave. I wish you'd hurry up and rescue me so I can be on my miserable way I Don't Live Today It's such a shame to waste you time away like this. Jimi Hendrix #### I said that I won't have anything to do next weekend, that's true, the only exception is that I'll have to go out and buy my tickets for the Charlatans gig. Today I bought the tickets for the Stephen Malkmus gigs, he's playing here on April 24 and 25, and for free on April 23 in a FNAC next to my workplace. As a fan I won't miss anything... And next month I'll have the privilege to see Mogwai in my own neighborhood! Maybe I'll call them to a cup of tea in my flat only a few meters from the venue! #### And as I finish this letter, it's 21:59. The Mirror Phase has already played three times, for I keep playing the album again and again... now I must leave and go back home. Good night for the american, good morning for the european, kisses & hugs for all! Fernando Brito PS: B&S content: I used to like the way the album covers had each one a particular colour, and wondered if they had some hidden meaning, or if someday they would be known as "the red album", "the yellow album" and so on... it's sad to know it's not going to happen. It's even sadder to know the latest will be called Torytelling by the laids. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcbots at xxx.nl Fri Apr 5 09:21:54 2002 From: marcbots at xxx.nl (Marc Bots) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 10:21:54 +0200 Subject: Sinister: B&S reached my ear! Message-ID: <3CAD5EA2.642AB6C6@sci.kun.nl> hi, second message in a single week. tomorrow rotterdam, and i can't wait. this months issue of the dutch music magazine Oor even has a full article (3.5 pages!) about 'the mysterious band Belle and Sebastian'. when i saw the article i started jumping up and down while, reading, which is rather hard, and i stopped jumping only after feyenoord had beaten inter milan. what i really wanna know is: any sinistrians in rotterdam? plien? if anyone would like to meet, email me privately and we'll try to work things out. love, marc +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From halighhalou at xxx.com Fri Apr 5 10:26:40 2002 From: halighhalou at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 03:26:40 -0600 Subject: Sinister: how did you survive all these fires and floods? Message-ID: hello sinister. sometimes, i wonder why i do it, why i go somewhere outside, and expect everything to compact upon itself and fall into my lap in a neat little bundle of happiness, chocolate-coated so that i may eat it and find all the happiness in the world suddenly inside my stomach, miraculously traveling my veins. tonight i stood on a balcony, watching a band perform below, looking at all the bobbing heads of the kids in the crowd and finding only one face down there worthy of my rapt attention. and he didn't look up at me when i was looking down, and the sheer fact of the height and distance and absence of meeting eyes was probably symbolic of something both tangible and intangible. he asked me once what color i told people my eyes were, when they weren't being pink. i told him grey, and he said good. i was five feet away from the boy who brought everything down three months ago, everything down to the most basic instincts of desire and nature. that one, who was drunk as the day is long and flaunting his new unattachment in my peripheral vision, was not the one i wanted to be close to any more. the thread between us was finally severed, and replaced with an invisible chain of smoke rings and abandoned booze. i tried to feel liberated. and from behind, as always, the one below me came up to my level, surprised me, stood there. he goes to shows like a true emo kid, standing stock still in the center of the audience, refusing whatever urge it was that gripped the rest of the usually subdued fans in a sweaty grip of upheaval. i could feel the venue shaking, pounding, and i felt as though i was dancing without moving my clumsy feet at all. i asked the one if he wanted to meet the other, and he looked at me and flatly said no. i wonder what would have happened should i have introduced them, the one knowing the hysteria breeded by the other. i was quivering between them, owning neither. and probably not owning myself, either. at some point during the show, i held a small with filter in my fingertips, the end still glowing. my friends didn't think i would actually do it, but i did, to a glorious roar of approval and disbelief. time slowed as i situated the cylinder between my fingers, paused, and let it arc over the people. the orange end hit someone's head as it fell from the balcony. cheers. glares. i laughed, and the sound rang out, harsh and moving. the walk back to my car was a solitary one, me with a square poster in one hand, the other wrapped around the strap of my bag. i walked uphill, carefully avoiding the now useless crust of ice-melting pebbles coating the pavement, mindful not to dirty my white shoes too badly. i heeded the quiet crunch beneath my feet, and gave the sound the respect it deserved. i crunched the hell out of that hill, and gave up the sound of real music for artificial answers when the cd player turned over and told me i was a modern girl. the road stretched out again, and i traversed it again, my feet in omaha and my head in lincoln. two opposing poles, with my heart somewhere in between, beating in echoed time to some as yet undeclared rhythm, waiting and waiting and waiting. i am still waiting. and waiting. and waiting. ...it must be nice to finish when you're dead...and they say california is a recipe for a black hole. and i say i've got my best shoes on. i'm ready to go... xxx, lou _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From benapps at xxx.com Fri Apr 5 14:31:38 2002 From: benapps at xxx.com (Ben Apps) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 14:31:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Competition time! Message-ID: If you go here..... http://www.matadorrecords.com/cgi-bin/contest/view.cgi?id=41 You'll see this........ If you weren�t quick enough to get tickets to see Belle & Sebastian when the shows went onsale, here�s your chance to win for you and a friend. We�re giving away a pair of tickets in each city for each show from Austin to DC � that�s 11 pairs, including 2 for New York. All you need to do is to come up with a design for a Belle & Sebastian album cover and send it to us. That�s it. No restrictions. It can be digital or handmade, lo-fi or hi-fi, with Belle and Sebastian references or not. The best design in each market will win a pair of tickets (the two best in NYC). There�s also a chance that your homemade album cover will be used in a future Belle & Sebastian promotion, including this website, so of course, you�re giving us the rights to it (we�ll contact you if we do use it). To enter, mail your submission to: Belle & Sebastian Album Cover Contest Matador Records 625 Broadway, 12th FL New York, NY 10012 You can also email it to matthew at matadorrecords.com. Be sure to include your name, address, email address and phone number, and the city for which you�re competing. The contest will end and winners will be notified on April 26. Good luck! -------------------------------- Watch this space for more exciting B&S competition action ;) bappsy x _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Fri Apr 5 14:44:44 2002 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 14:44:44 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: Sinister: the model with the boyband air Message-ID: so, i'm back at work after losing my heart (and my ring, and my dignity) in london. the gig at brixton was as people have reported really. i didn't enjoy it quite as much as the albert hall, perhaps because the band, although cheery in a slightly manic way, did seem tired. i knew how they felt. and forgetting the lyrics of your two opening numbers is a bit hard to forgive. but there were some lovely moments, chris and stevie looked gorgeous, and isobel even laughed a few times. meanwhile (or rather, before), the pre-gig picnic was an international festival of fun. dimitra, rachel sunnyset, the boy greg, bapps, the YSM (sam, stuart, chris and feathertara), jim (of the purple breeches), ian (sans st peter), liz daplyn, hannah brown, sarahs GS and beckett, (lord?) anthony and richard, plus assorted americans, italians, greeks and spaniards all variously cavorted and lolled in green park. some of us were unfortunate enough to be drawn into greg's evil power trip (cunningly disguised as a card game). liz sneered at my screw-top wine. i sneered back at her powerpuff girl tumblers. we went round the circle and said our names like it was an AA meeting. sam informed us that the lyrics to 'the model' are masquerading as a westlife song on the internet. and it's true! (http://www.marcolino.com/w/westlife/4.htm l). also, everyone was far too louche to play football. and i did like them so :) later the pub floor creaked under the weight of the sinister (now genuinely) massive. money and tickets changed hands. our punning skills were tested to the limit in the 'kenchu-ry of fakers' sticker game. (though as the tentacles spread, how much longer can we really call it a game...?) we explained the meaning of 'twat'. on the train home i sat next to some people who'd just been to see south pacific. they were all about 65, yet were even more flushed and excited than i was in my post-gig euphoria. i left my ken chu sticker and an empty pringles tube on the train for them as a fair summary of my day. i slept like a baby. luv archel xxx ps. richard raskolnikov is fascinated by cars. stuart murdoch loves his. i resent and fear them, or rather their drivers. i don't see why i should be made to feel like the guilty party if i cross a road a little precipitously when the other party is approaching in A MASSIVE METAL BOX ON WHEELS. in what way do pedestrians (or cyclists) have the upper hand in a road situation??? ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clj106 at xxx.uk Fri Apr 5 15:03:22 2002 From: clj106 at xxx.uk (mummy i've grazed my knee) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 15:03:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dribble, drool Message-ID: <3CADAEAA.3D48F0B6@york.ac.uk> Well, nobody seems to have completed the 'B&S in London story', so I will try, although those that played a more active role might be able to do it better. Let's start from the beginning anyway. EXCITABLE BATH I took a very hot bath on Tuesday night to make sure I would sleep. I then proceeded to wake up at 5 am, too full of the joys of a Belle And Sebastian gig day to go to sleep again. Every conceivable thing went wrong on the bus journey to the station, but I made it with 20 seconds to spare. A wonderful day had just begun. PICNIC Much has been said about this already, but myself and other members of the YSM joined the beautiful people of Sinister in Green Park, where profiteroles were prolific and champaign corks were dangerous. We left early to eat macaroni cheese at Feather Boa's house, the others went to drink Ribena in some kind of licensed establishment. WALTON WHINING Sam whinged at me for being slow, but I had to decide what to wear and whether to put face paints on. Others speculated that i would look like a tw*t and so I didn't bother. "We're going to be late, the doors open at 7!" he cried, but we got there in good time to sit around inside the fairy castle that is Brixton Academy. LIFE WITHOUT BUILDINGS There sound was a good description of what life without buildings might be like. Repetitive, slightly dull and a little craaazzzyyyy. i didn't mind them, but by the fourth song, i still couldn't understand what that mad woman was saying and it sounded like everything else they'd played. BELLE AND SEBASTIAN They took ages to come on, seemed like some techie problem in the corner, but started with a wonderful rendition of STCA. To be brutally honest, it was the least exciting of the three gigs I've seen. The Academy was a little impersonal and people weren't getting into the swing of things. The people around me made space so that I could bop around lots, but they looked bemused and confused as to why I would want to dance. Archel and Mr Apps waved at me intermittently from a location slightly behind my person. The sound levels were a bit off, with Struan's guitar and Stevie's being quiet as well as the piano, but it was marvellous to hear a set so different to the last tour, with breath taking renditions of YMMFMD's, JATDOH and String Bean Jean. Pre Tigermilk material - Wow!!! The steel band in the middle were bizarre. Very enjoyable but incredibly random. F*** This S*** was odd and sounded not dissimilar to a jazz rendition of Miraculous Technique. We all enjoyed clapping to Wandering The Night Away. i can't get enough of that funky Legal Man either. Afterwards, we were shunned by Mr Walton who found better company in Jeremy and the band at the after show party, but we are reliably informed that he didn't sleep with Isobel. The most hilarious part of the night must have been seeing B&S hoodies on sale outside! FITBA - OOOHHH YOU SEXY BOYS!!!! The one thing that most people have omitted to mention so far is Struan's on stage invite to take part in a kick about on Thursday outside the Royal Albert Hall at 5 o'clock. Well, how could we miss such an event! Trooping down on a glorious sunny spring day, we were treated to the delights of Struan, Beans, Murray, Neil and one of the other violinists whose name I forget playing with and against an all star team comprising of such sini-celebrities as Ben Apps, Mark Cassarotto, Jeremy, The Boy G, Stevie Trousers and Asm Walton (sorry if I left anyone out). I watched patiently from the side lines, taking photos for a sinister record and watching Belfast Bob chatting to ladies on the sidelines. After a brief stint in goal, the immaculately dressed Mr Murdoch bounded round the pitch with youthful exuberance, and an unrivalled amount of energy. Beans was solid in defence while Murray fed well from the right wing. Numbers fell as time rolled on, but the hardcore few continued to play. Ben Apps was particularly dangerous in his capacity as a footballer and human being while Trousers minced through the defence in poetic style. Beans gave up and sat with Bob, showing off the new yellow Adidas trainers he had bought. The were joined shortly afterwards by the bizarre sight of Mick in an athletics vest as he jogged through the park. The match ended with a highly disputed score line, but Struan stayed around to chat and sign things. he did reveal a few of the answers to the London treasure hunt, including the final hiding place of the treasure, but i don't know if I should tell you, because he might want that honour. We discussed the gig, he said all the journalists has complained that it was too quiet. We disagreed. I asked if they would ever release Lord Anthony, and he said quite possibly. He even swore, but did ask me to excuse his French before signing a postcard of Tigermilk for me and trying to steal my fountain pen. It was a wonderful couple of days. Chris Jones. xxxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk Fri Apr 5 16:07:05 2002 From: MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk (Michael Ashbridge) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 15:07:05 GMT Subject: Sinister: London Evening Standard articles Message-ID: <52D103D10@Blackstaff.ulst.ac.uk> Didn't see these linked in recent posts. Two articles are online for your edification and amusement: http://www.thisislondon.com/dynamic/hottx/music/top_review.html?in_review_id=404 018&in_review_text_id=507286 - In which we're told that prior to Storytelling, "Murdoch [was able to start] fruitfully channelling his relationship with Isobel Campbell, the band's cellist, into his music." http://www.thisislondon.com/dynamic/hottx/music/top_review.html?in_review_id=404 018&in_review_text_id=508215 - In which David Smyth, who may write for Q Magazine, which would explain his tone -- "[Their musical style] can be too drippy for words, and it's easy to experience a strange longing for them to smash some instruments, vomit on each other or at the very least raise their voices" -- gives a brief review of the Brixton gig. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chocolat at xxx.be Fri Apr 5 15:42:16 2002 From: chocolat at xxx.be (jule doggy dog) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 16:42:16 +0200 Subject: Sinister: l'apathie de la belgeoisie + picnic in brussels on sunday afternoon Message-ID: <004201c1dcb0$14fd8b80$253675d9@teledisnet.be> PIQUE-NIQUE au PARC ROYAL de BRUXELLES (WARANDEPARK) (april 7th) we could meet at 3.30pm at the big fountain in the middle of the park and install ourselves on the grass at 4.00.. if you can't find us or come later, give me a call or send a text message, my number is +32 477 797803.. after the picnic we will walk towards l'ancienne-belgique and look for a pub before the concert starts.. forecast: sunny, 15°C, wind: 19km/h (NE) if it rains, you will find us at 3.30 in the park or on the stairs of the stock exchange (Place de la Bourse) at 4.00.. in case there is a demonstration, don't mistake us, we'll be the ones without flags.. wow, i hope it's not too complicated.. here is a map with the metro stations and everything: http://users.teledisnet.be/web/men01821/brussel-map2.jpg - i already got positive answers from several belgian listees, who seemed to be quite excited about attending a picnic in their own country, but not excited enough to arrange it.. considering the general apathy, the strawberry boy (who introduced me to belle and sebastian) thought maybe it was his turn to plan a meeting.. and he charged me to do it, cause he feels unable to organize anything.. so i'll play the picnic mummy on sunday if you don't mind.. i've heard there will be brownies and strawberries.. see you in brussels! jule (chocolat at teledisnet.be, +32 477 797803) by the way.. for those who still haven't seen them, the strawberry boy reminds me that the thirty pictures we took last year in benicassim are still online: http://www.geocities.com/fraiseboy/fib2001.html .. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Fri Apr 5 16:19:05 2002 From: bellezc at xxx.com (Zoe Charaktinou) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 16:19:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: dream a dream Message-ID: went to the Manchester gig.it was a dream. wanted to hear LLPJ and Dog on Wheels badly. esp LLPJ.why Edinburgh and London and not Manchester?*sniffles* didn't meet anyone but i'm sure we brushed off each other in the Apollo. I like Apollo.saw PJ Harvey there and she was fab.was the opening act life without buildings?they were crap anyway.v.bad sound. the B&S gig was my first and I LOVED IT! it would have been even better if i wasn't in the middle of a silent argument with the boyfriend.that pissed me off but i still danced my socks off.i think i was the only one.that was scary.i was standing to the left looking at the stage holding on the railing.that was a strategic position.unfortunately it was not too close to the front but when you are 5'3" you need to be able to stand on the toes and i had to hold myself.don't laugh!i have been to MANY gigs nad being short is a curse.the worst part is Britain because averybody is so much taller.at least in Greece i am average.why people were not dancing i don't know.the worst thing was that suddenly a group of four tall people came and stood right in frond of me.tall people should be banned from going at the front in gigs.and i am always shy to ask them to move a bit. so yes.oh, i noticed this sad old me:the lights during the gig changed in every song.so when a song was from IYFS the background was red, when a song was from TBWTAS the background was green , when from TIGERMILK the background was bluey and when from FYHCYWLAP the background yellowy..there were other colours too for the eps.NO FUSCHIA FOR LLPJ 'COS THEY DIDN'T PLAY IT!and no encore for us in Manchester... jonny said: "i swear that struan played a bar or two of the bassline to *transmission* by joy division as it changed back, but that might just be me hearing things." YES,jonny,it was transmission.i had an expert with me... boys and girls and others, i loved my firts ever B&S gig, tho i got depressed again...they are bad for the health... oh, and as far as it goes for dancing, i have been in a few gigs around this part of the world and people never dance...i wasn't expecting them to do so now...boring old sods... have fun. US listees prepare yourselves and report! wish i had made it to POW! but me is VERY poor... L-O-V-E zoexxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Fri Apr 5 18:43:14 2002 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:43:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Brixton's where B&S were at (reporting back) Message-ID: An account of the Brixton gig, "au contraire" to the rest of the reportings back, I am going to target on what I liked about the gig rather than the bits I hated, an Anti-Christ of Mister Carter, if you may. On the outside, the Brixton academy looks like it belongs to the 80s, "BRIXTON ACADEMY" written with huge neon lights, or maybe it was just very bright lights, and faded red plastic letters making up the name of the act BELLE AND SEBASTIAN, possibly the same plastic Bs, Ns and As that once informed people of a BANANARAMA act. Once inside, you realised why it was called Brixton academy because it was decorated like an academy of the ancient Greek, and once properly inside, you realised that you were actually outside because it was an open-top venue, then looking up and you realised that you were actually really inside, afterall, as it was only made to look like open-top and there was a ceiling, afterall. I only caught the end of Life without Buildings, but I assumed that they were rubbish because Life without Buildings would be rubbish, and there was this woman screaming things.. Belle and Sebastian came on without much of a long pause (we only had to wait for the Strange Fruit crew backstage to hurry up and drink up their pints) The band exploded with Sleep The Clock Around, everytime I hear that song I can't help but make Clanger noises, but I refrained, while the band chorused, Sturan (his name is STURAN!) was so touched by the excited crowd he was lost for words, but then found it again. I enjoyed the crowd's many, and varying, interpretation of a latino beat, to the untrained ear it sounded like clapping at random semiquaverwhatsits of choice. The guy next to us who came up with the most intelligent hackles, and the couple in front of me who liked kissing very much, either that or they liked obscuring my view a lot. All in all a game crowd. Belfast Bob's final finale endgame finishing guitar solo on their encore cover of "Another girl, another planet" had my head twitching in glee like I have never done since way back in my rock city going days, and made my day, that man can wank a guitar well. My hero of the night, as usual however was Mick Cooke - everytime Sturan forgot a line, that Isobel ran out of breath, that Stevie wasn't near enough the microphone to sing into it because he ran off somewhere, I would always be safe in the knowledge that Mick was putting on a flawless performance. The trumpet sounds, liquid silver, never over-eager to steal the limelight but always capturing my heart and soul. Also the way that Mick awkwardly stood holding his instrument whenever he wasn't playing makes me giggle, if I were a girl I'd marry the guy, mmm a man who has full control of his respiratory organs. But I'm not a girl and so I'd marry Isobel instead, she was looking a lot happier than she had been in her previous gigs, yet still always full of professionalism, you can tell from her look of full concentration, even on instruments such as the Kewsii (kinder egg with sand in it) you can see her giving her all. She gets lonely when she isn't playing, and sometimes she'd sit on her own on the steps, and I just couldn't help but wish that I were there to sit with her, to talk to her, and tell her that she was the special little princess that she is, maybe she would raise a smile then. During the main part of the gig (about 8 songs), whenever a song from an album was coming on, the colour of the background light reflected the colour of the album cover (Tigermilk-blue IYFS-red etc.), which I found very lovely but I am not sure if it was deliberate as later on this pattern ended. I almost had an epileptic fit during Legal Man from the strobe lighting, but then I realised that it was just my dancing. I could go on, but I'll stop the gig venue pun this time was: "LA to New York, San Francisco back to Brixton"... just brilliant. Hugs and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: re: background light colours, I see that Zoe also spotted this pattern.. maybe it *was* deliberate afterall! It was a very nice touch. P.S.2: Now that all of the B&S Treasure Hunt trophies have been found, I wonder if the answers to the treasure hunt clues will be revealed any time soon. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aorta47 at xxx.com Fri Apr 5 20:18:57 2002 From: aorta47 at xxx.com (mmm skyscraper) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 11:18:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: two things In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020405191857.26365.qmail@web11807.mail.yahoo.com> hi sinister 1. Life Without Buildings are a great band. 2. It's Stuart. Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james.thorniley at xxx.com Fri Apr 5 22:10:14 2002 From: james.thorniley at xxx.com (James Thorniley) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 22:10:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I think Ken Chu is a twat In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8640DDF4-48D9-11D6-9894-000393470E60@ntlworld.com> Mmm London gig. Stuart? Sturan? We all know it's Struan, I don't understand. The pre gig festivities involved getting slightly drunk in a park then heading down to a wee pub in Brixton where we made stickers saying, for the most part, "I think Ken Chu is a twat". I also had a sticker which said "Ken Chu eats children", but there were cleverer ones as well, saying things like "Fuck Chu". I'm told there is now a sticker on the hand dryer in the men's toilets saying "Chu Ugly! Chu Ugly!". Ho hum. Greg made some unfortunate victims play the world's most confusing card game, and we discussed how much we thought Peter Carter was a lovely chap. Someone said they had Spunk, but I don't know if anyone ate it. The gig was full of people who seemed to have come on the wrong night or something, I think they were looking for the Linkin Park gig because they kept shouting "Turn it up". Life without buildings or whatever they were called weren't so good, but the girl jumped about on stage like mad which was funny. Anyway since you're all bored of gig reports I'll leave now since I can't think of anything interesting to say. Da end James Thorniley +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sillylorna at xxx.com Fri Apr 5 23:52:28 2002 From: Sillylorna at xxx.com (Sillylorna at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:52:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: two things Message-ID: <7D650B0C.30C9E606.0CBD0065@aol.com> Mark wrote this: 1. Life Without Buildings are a great band. 2. It's Stuart. I say this: Yay!!! To the Stuart thing. And Life Without Buildings are very energetic! 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I wanted to make an initial post that was thoughtful and lovely, but all I can think about is my upcoming trip. Tomorrow, I am off for Dublin, and then to Edinburgh and Glasgow. Let me take this opportunity to blatently invite anybody who would like to meet up with me (I'm visiting universities), and show what it's like beyond the youth hostel scene. I've already corresponded with a few lovely people. I am anticipating a rather long plane trip, but, ah, I have the assigned task of reading Portrait of Lady, by Henry James, so I should be well occupied. Chances are, I've emailed many of you already about my trip, but such is life. I'm fairly chuffed, as I am planning to start a book club with a few friends from school. MY idea for the initial book is Kafka's The Trial. Any other suggestions? Also, suggestions of places to visit in the cities mentioned would be lovely. last I was in Glasgow, I apparently turned the wrong way out of the youth hostel, and ended up in some rather drawl bar strip by a highway. It seems that I missed a few things. Hmmmmm... So, I really am not so myopic, or self-serving, I'm just incredibly excited. Anybody thinking of going to University at University of Glasgow next year? Just curious. Does anyone have any opinions on studying Scottish Literature vs English LIterature? I've been weighing the pros and cons, and am a bit confused. Although, maybe their will be educational mobility, and I can do a bit of both. So, anyone who would like to, email me, and we might meet up. Thanks, Ramesh (Remy-A nickname of sorts) _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Sat Apr 6 15:06:06 2002 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 15:06:06 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: A grip, and how to get it Message-ID: <20020406140606.5264.qmail@web10402.mail.yahoo.com> Oh for fuck's sake! Don't you chaps ever have your own nicknames for things and people you feel affection for? You're called mmm skyscraper, mate, you're hardly one to talk. Once upon a time, god knows when or why, someone referred to Stuart Murdoch as Struan (I blame that Genevieve, she was always banging (on about) him. It was kinda useful, as there were (gasp) TWO Stuarts in the band! Anyway, it stuck, just like Fishyclap and Twattybus stuck, just like the baseless and incomprehensible worship of Ken Chu stuck. Is that okay? Christ, even you know who we mean, so why the problem? Of course, Struan might not like being called Struan, but then he's big enough to fight his own battles. Perspective = a good thing. I might post again shortly without being so arsey. Take care all. Mark xxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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So here it is: "Considering that Stuart Murdoch has refused to speak to the British press for the past four years, he has chosen bizarre circumstances for his first one-on-one interview of the 21st century Fifteen hours before our meeting in an Albanian bar in the centre of London, he had boarded a plane at Tokyo’s Narita airport. He hates flying and never manages to sleep, so he took along a bottle of whisky to keep him company. “I must admit I’ve been drinking solidly,” he says, ordering a Martini Rosso. He looks glassy-eyed with jet lag. Belle and Sebastian have a reputation for treading their own idiosyncratic path, of course. Easily the biggest cult band in Britain, the eight-piece from Glasgow have actively broken every music-business rule. They decline to pose for standard band photos. Murdoch — the band’s 33-year-old singer and guitarist — stopped giving interviews as soon as people started calling his group the new Smiths. And they hardly ever play live. Indeed, when Belle and Sebastian won a Brit award for Best Newcomer in 1999 (beating the hotly tipped Steps), they sent their drummer and trumpet player to make the acceptance speech. The past 12 months, though, have seen a subtle shift in B and S’s attitude. Previously contrary through inexperience, as much as sticking to points of principle, they now have the confidence to enjoy themselves. “We got together to specifically record one record (their critically lauded debut album, Tigermilk] and then spent years learning how to play together, and making all sorts of mistakes and burning out.” How did they burn out? “When you’re passionate to the extreme and things go wrong and you don’t know why, and you see them through to the death, then your health can suffer. I got into that situation a couple of years ago. We finished our last record and I couldn’t take it any more. I said I’m going to leave it and go at my own pace.” Murdoch’s main problem was his relationship with the band’s cellist, Isobel Campbell (always assumed to be the Belle to his Sebastian, although the singer has previously denied this). The couple were falling apart and the band couldn’t help but be affected. Now, though, Murdoch has channelled his feelings into the music: the band’s most recent single, I’m Waking Up To Us (on the Jeepster label), was generally regarded to be a return to form. “There’s something of that in there,” nods Murdoch. “It certainly took us a long time to realise that the group wasn’t happening while we were arguing” What does Campbell think of the song? “She’s never made any reference to it. I don’t know. I think she managed to get over things a lot faster than I did. But it’s not a vindictive song.” Even with lyrics such as: “You need a man who’s either rich or losing a screw”? “I think at the end the caring things outweigh the niggling things.” Another turning point came with a comment from the band’s manager, a friend called Neil Robertson —although Murdoch is essentially B and S’s mentor. During the difficult years, Murdoch admits he “put more effort into keeping the group together than I did writing, singing, playing”. B and S had turned down countless magazine covers and television appearances and Robertson had had enough. “He said: ‘If you have complete disdain for the media, how can you expect them to have anything but disdain for you?’ It is a point.” Most cheering for the fans, B and S have also been signing up for concerts (including the Brixton Academy next Wednesday). Last summer’s tour of Britain in July culminated at the sold-out Albert Hall. The band also toured America (where they enjoy a critical reverence on a par with Radiohead), played two dates in Brazil and five shows in Japan. “I like to communicate with people,” Murdoch says now “I love getting up in front of folk.” This doesn’t mean that Belle and Sebastian have lost any of their original charm or eccentricity. Far from it. “I really felt like playing golf in Japan. So we rolled out a bit of turf halfway through the gig and knocked some balls into the audience. They were going ‘Hit me!’ Someone had a big Bing Crosby cap at the front, so I borrowed that. In the meantime, my guitar started to feedback and this reminded Stevie [Jackson, guitarist] of I Feel Fine by The Beatles, so he sang that while we played golf” A new album Storytelling, will be released on Jeepster in June and Murdoch has an ambition for this year that will surprise many long term fans: “I’d like to play Glastonbury. We had a brilliant time at Benicassim [festival in Spain], so I think the group’s ready. I’ve never been to Glastonbury. I’ve been to T In The Park, which is terrible.” Any year’s Glastonbury line-up is a compendium of the contemporary British music scene of the moment: how exactly will Belle and Sebastian fit into that? “I don’t think we fit in at all,” smiles Murdoch. “We’ve got our heads in the clouds. Me and Stevie are living ha1fway between the Sixties and the Seventies. And I don’t really care.” Amen to that." Sorry its a bit old now, I had to teach myself how to do OCR. (It was an old dog, new tricks kind of thing) Nearly everything has been said about the UK bit of the tour now. I'd just like to enter a plea for the band to PLAY LOUDER! (And I'm not a Linkin Park fan. Oh yeah - who ARE Linkin Park?) On reflection, the reason I didn't enjoy the 2 gigs I was lucky enough to attend as much as I should have done is that often the sound of people chattering even several yards away was loud enough to drown out the sound of the band playing & singing, & not just during the quieter passages. So please, turn it up a bit. And play Highway To Hell :) A couple of things about the Brixton gig: they sounded very much like they were going to move into Sympathy for The Devil from the percussion bit of Legal Man, but didn't :( - teasers! ....... No one mentioned Stuart/Stevie's AC/DC type opposing runs across the front of the stage during one number & Stuart's chucking the mic into the crowd ...... Struan looked like he was contemplating climbing up the PA to jump off at one point (frustrated rocker!) ...... Katrina was looking even more gorgeous than usual. Hope everyone enjoys the mainland Europe shows. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From figure2 at xxx.net Sat Apr 6 17:52:51 2002 From: figure2 at xxx.net (figure2 at xxx.net) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 18:52:51 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Parked in Gardens Message-ID: <20020406165251.CVYQ24936.fep08-svc.ttyl.com@localhost> Oh oh. That fear that accompanies an indulgence. I just walked into the most expensive jewelers in Edinburgh town and bought a brooch for my mum's birthday. A special birthday. It's antique: gold swallows inlaid with some stones that glister. I saw lots of lovely things that I dismissed with 'well, I'd by that for my girlfriend': fabulous chain-laces in silver-link like scarves of the decadent. Oh my tormentor and luxury VISA: viz: everything. Clearly I can't afford it. So what. I'll collect Tuesday. Back to the notebook, it now being 16:38 in EasyEverything. Stelios, you got a point there. Thing is, one has one's own soul to reckon with at the end of the day. Princes' Street Gardens. 12:14pm on a Saturday. Saturday 6th April 2002. The sun is directly ahead, at about 30degrees to the horizontal. To my left, the Scott Monument (scene of recent sinister meet-ups and a great, spiky soot-covered edifice to boot). Beyond it, a bag-piper plays for visitors to the city. I'm rather enjoying it too, being a fan of solo performances. Oh those lonely hillsides: those reckoning with their lonely selves in battle, between memory and the infinite via blood, guts, mess and tears. And virtuosity: martial arts; aerobics; ballet and fencing. A guy wanders over as I sit on a bench dedicated with a wee plaque to someone as I eat from a clear plastic bowl of strawberry slices, chunks of various melons, mangoes, pineapple and some other soft and sweet fleshy fruit to chomp in the sunshine. >From Hamburg. Homeless, he says in English. No wonder, I think: you're quite far away from it. Then I imagine George Orwell down and out in New York as I give him a quid, which is a desultory sum but sometime, somewhere, someone is going to realise I'm damned destitute myself. I wonder about him, but I didn't and now he's somewhere else. A pigeon catches my eye and wanders tentatively over the red-chip speckled tarmac, to be interrupted by a mother with her adult daughter. The mother sits down on the far end of this bench whilst the progeny fetches coffee from an octagonal timber pavillion some 50m to the right. Later in the afternoon, at the western end of the gardens, as the sun reaches over to touch De Quincey's grave in St.Cuthbert's, I witness a sight familiar to me there which is 'crazy whirlygig formation flutter'. Allow me to explain. They swoop around in a circle whose plane is at an angle to the planet like the sun's. As they wheel up towards an as yet leafless tree some of them break off for a pit-stop: fat, blobby happy silhouettes on boughs against evening light. The others rise in an arc to pass across guano-streaked black precipices falling from the castle's flanks and over the daft gilded cherubs of a nineteenth century fountain before swinging in a sharp downwards curve towards the centre of their diameter then out again and along and in yer face with flapper and vortex and flapping and, basically, and air-full of fast-passing pigeons. The flags hoisted on rooftops across the old Nor' Loch fly at half-mast because an 'important' granny died. I'm sure it's as sad for her offspring as the deaths of my grannies were to me. However, I got by without special CD and colour supplement merchandise because I knew them and loved them as real people. If one is after metaphor or symbolism there are more potent examples than someone else's granny. Drums sound. A lovely, hypnotic sound. The bagpiper holds a high note: he twiddles down and around a bit before resuming it; wind leaking from an inflated tartan bag as he searches for the next tune. The daughter returns with beakers of coffee. A small, red, cheap second-hand coupe screaches to a halt behind a bus stopped at some temporary traffic lights as policemen and women ride horse-back in the contra-flow. Behind are flags and banners raised high: the Saltire of St.Andrew (a Greek, so I believe) and canvas of black/white/green horizontal stripes intercepted to the pole-end by a red triangle: the flags of Scotland and Palestine. The drums roll on in the echoing valley. Some of them sit down outside Marks & Spencer for some reason. Rest? Sandwiches? Some political intrigue I'm unaware of? Well, I'm not going to be anti-Israel just because I'm pro-Palestine. The angry and de-humanised; the scared and grieving are on both sides and if in searching for emotional parity you find this distasteful it's the only one I have to hand: stopping these folks from feeling war-like is like forcing an alcoholic not to drink. So I have no moral authoruty, but I do sigh. At the far side of the path in front of me is a steep incline ending in a lower terrace of benches. From here, you can see the upper eighth at best of the people standing down there. Someone puts on a jacket, by raising their arms into its sleeves, but all I can see is this disembodied item of animated tailoring with flapping cuffs gradually sinking out of view. The bag-piper starts up again, over now distant drums. He plays "A Scottish Soldier". I think "A Dead Family" (one of them survives and is wandering, dazed, amongst the rubble, wondering if they should extract the other bodies, scream or shoot themselves. Or dedicate themselves to vengeance at all costs. Not exactly a military operation.) An Earthly routine of Apocalypses: One cannot believe that they resolve, Except the feel and all-encompassing rush of happiness, Like spring shoots: Into flowers again and again; ... by the orbiting moon, ... through damp or frosty dirt: What decomposes, Makes music again. I have a letter from my psychiatrist in my ruck-sack. 'I'm sorry we seem to have lost contact' he says. Yeah, I'm real hacked. When I'm up and high I'm enjoying it and when I'm down I'm nowhere but my room and 'discussing it'? Yeah, right. Talk about it my ass. So when I see him I'm perfectly normal so no wonder he thinks I'm normal. I talk about drink so no wonder he thinks I'm an alcoholic. There's more to it than that and if he'd ply me with wine spritzers, paint and a violin then, and only then, would he be in a position to judge whether or not I was crazy, clever, brilliant or deluded. But I wish he wouldn't sit there and try to work me out against a graph when I'm talking through an inherited guise of polite rectitude. Peace is not the answer. War is not the answer. Curious Engagement is the Answer... or, more simply, I don't know. I wish I did. Gordon x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beiaardhorse at xxx.com Sat Apr 6 18:36:15 2002 From: beiaardhorse at xxx.com (Aruni J) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 12:36:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: soccer in NYC? Message-ID: Sorry, I still associate "football" with tailgates, beer, and oh yeah, the Super Bowl. Anyhoo, this was off the B&S news page, if you hadn't seen...(http://www.banchory.net/belleandsebastian/news.html) > A Word From Beans I'll be djing in New York after the show on 5th May (details soon). Since I'll have my records with me (funk & soul, party hip hop, disco breaks) I'd be up for doing some more djing so if anyone coming to any of the shows is planning or knows any good parties or clubs please get in touch and we'll sort something out. Email beansgeddes at hotmail.com. Also anyone in europe or the states who can organize a game of football (soccer, Americans!) while we're there feel free to contact me the same way. See you soon folks. > For people who don't want to play football, they play a lot of football, it seems. Actually, I'd be really amused to see B&S in a game of American football. Think anyone would be up for that? ~aruni _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sat Apr 6 19:16:46 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 10:16:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Life Without Bras, Garbage, Notebooks. Message-ID: <20020406181646.60190.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> hiya, my laptop has been playing up. I have to jiggle it to make it work. Surely thats not the normal thing for a good quality laptop? Still, its working today. Its not feeling quite so tempremental. You can tell its mine. All my belongings have the same fickle "i'm not working if I don't feel like it" attitude as me. Whatsisface said Life Without Buildings were a great band. I've seen them about four times now, usually supporting other bands. All I can ask, is was it the singers complete lack of boob controlling underwear that *really* caught your attention? Energetic? I'll say. A warning to any ladies thinking of living without a bra, (or indeed, a sports bra, which is also extremely useful if you're planning on "bouncing" around) THEY'LL BE DOWN TO YER KNEES IN TEN YEARS TIME! Knockers? more like clackers in a while. what a lovely thought. :) Personally, I didn't think much of them- her boobs nor the music provided by Life Without Buildings. It was Stuarts pecs I was more taken by. Phwoarr!!! *licks lips, bounces knee up and down, makes wolf whistles, and general other cartoon-like behaviour* I went to a gig last night. My pal called me on Thursday, and asked me to go. It was to see Garbage at the Corn Exchange in Edinburgh. I liked their first two albums, but even then, they weren't the sort of band I had *such* an interest in to want to see live. But his pal had pulled out at last minute, so he asked me to go, and hey, I had nothing better to do. A few things I'd like to say about the gig: In comparrison to the fair Belle And Sebastian crowd, they were *nowhere* as near as sexy and as good looking as you lot (and me); Shirley was full of schmaltzyness, saying "thank you so much" like some sort of Miss World winner, receiving her tiara and sash, or an Oscar winner with the speaches, and tears. Stuart does a much better job- he gets to the point, makes us laugh, and teases us with coy slaggings ("not bad... for an Edinburgh crowd" indeed...). What really grated my cheesy goat, was when she started with the MOR "I'm-down-with-the-kids,-I'm-a-political-activist" political commentary. She was going on about how brilliant Donald Dewar was. I just cringed. And then when the idiotic crowd seemed to do that mindless cheer, becuase they're not clever enough to think for themselves. And the usual "This is the bestest gig I've ever played in the whole wide world!" style scripted thing she spouted. Her bitchy barbed comments about Blue sent cheers of comradeship from the mainstream pop-goth audience, most of whom looked desperate to be noticed and alternative but all looked the same in the end. Come on, I mean, Blue?? The woman really needs to find a less easy target. Mind you, if she went for Placebo, surely that would just be a case of the pot calling the kettle black. And then it would be a case of handbags at dawn "we're more goth than you!" "no you're not, we are!"nonsense. To add, I'm not see keen on her Bridget Nielssen/ Muriel Gray-goes-teddy-boy look. And she is so *painfully* skinny too. She said she was having her period (too much information!) but if so, why did he silly woman wear white, and secondly, she cannot be suggering water retention, otherwise when shes finished she'll disappear. In defence, she is a good live singer, and the band were good live. But beyond that, there wasn't much to them. Oh, but they did a cover version of Kylie's "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" cos they couldn't remember one of their own songs they were requested to play when they came on for an encore. And actually, she did a very good version of it too. And then they remembered the song they were meant to play. But only after they went off stage to check. Today I've been busy writing my wee story. Its coming on quite nicely now. I sat in Costa coffee just off Hanover Street this morning, writing away, waiting for my parents to finish their shopping. I really enjoy it when I get that feeling of satisfaction, when I have an idea, when I can chase my idea and it leads me to a whole pot of ideas. A bit like a rainbow. Becuase the rainclouds of writers block are never far away. And they'll dampen your spirit and smudge your words into a big inky mess, if you're not careful. Saw something cool in Paper Tiger today also. Magnetic poetry? forget it. Magnetic randsom letters is cool now. And mouse pad-pads- a block of notepaper in the shape of a mouse pad. Or a sperm mouse pad. Thats cool too. I'm easily amused. I love looking at notebooks I can buy. But in shops like Paper Tiger, they are always so expensive. But so beautiful as well, there is something very soothing about a new notebook. Perhaps this will be the notebook to inspire you as you write in it? I have about eight blank notebooks all sitting in my bookshelf, waiting to offer me inspiration. I've filled one notebook with my story. I'm always happiest sitting writing in cafe's. I don't know why. I think its just that the atmosphere is calm, and you get coffees made for you, and you can smoke, and sit for ages. Some people sit chatting, others read magazines and newspapers. I always sit writing. Or maybe I just like to pose as someone cool and interesting and arty in public places. Its probably the latter. :) I like to sit outside in parks too, and write. or on the train. But in parks, you don't get coffees brought to you. And it gets windy. And if it starts to rain, as it always does in Scotland at some point, then your ords get splodged. And on trains, you get people looking over your shoulder. And so you sit, and wrap your arm around it,like you did at school, to stop the other kids copying your work. Mind you, I'm just as guilty. If I've got nothing to read, or listen to, or write, I'll shamelessly steal glimpses of newspaper headlines. Its funny when you see men in suits on the train, and they become aware that you're reading over your shoulder, and the page is open with some page three stunna. They quickly flick over to look less like perverts. righto kiddies! I'm off for my dinner. Love, Idleberry xxx ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Sat Apr 6 19:53:33 2002 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 19:53:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Pun amnesty begins today (Brixton stuff) Message-ID: <20020406185333.25597.qmail@web10504.mail.yahoo.com> *************************************** It has come to our attention that a number of people have been carrying and using unlicenced puns. In many cases, punning can lead to harder forms of wordplay such as anagrams and palindromes. Loaded puns, if pointed in the wrong direction, can kill. Anyone in possesion of a pun should take it to their local police station where it will be disposed of without risk of arrest and trial by Chu-ry. *************************************** Hello. I was gonna Report Back on the Brixton Soiree but as lots of other people already have I shan't bother. Suffice to say I had a grate time unlike the reviewer from The Guardian who was a bit too near the back it would appear. Ah well. The 'faint hints of greatness' came across clearer near the speakers. And who precisely was 'howling with joy at Murdoch's every mumble'? Come on, own up: http://www.guardian.co.uk/reviews/story/0,3604,679837,00.html Thanks go to the lovely picnic mummies for the picnic, the lovely B. Apps for the accommodation and to the lovely Liz. D for record shopping fun and for guiding a hungover Robster through the labyrinth of Mayfair art galleries. Athena kiwkframes fit B&S posters perfectly. Fantastic! Robster http://liquid2k.com/robster75 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elf-angel at xxx.com Sat Apr 6 08:22:50 2002 From: elf-angel at xxx.com (Bron) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 01:22:50 -0600 Subject: Sinister: i'm already apologizing for this obnoxious post Message-ID: <30621598AA0B59E4E822618922BAF320@elf-angel.wildmail.com> dear sinister april has been carrying me off into the wilderness again, off into unimagined places of states of blank surrender and of heart-racing bliss all the same. last night i decided to have a beer with my mexican pizza. i was right, it was just the beverage for such a meal. my friends were over for dinner, they didn't want any beer. so i didn't share. then they left. so i decided another beer would not hurt. that led me breakin into the wine. oh darlin, then there was this sudden urge to paint! the notion consumed me so that i had to be as artistic as possible, as unrestricted as possible in my empty apartment, and so i stripped down to me bare birthday suit (i suppose it's cheating since my birthday was a month ago, but at any cost...) and i dribbled my fingers up and down over the paper with colors beautiful colors! colors of all shades and frustrations and obscenities and spectabularistic joys! after all that nonsense i decided it was time for bed...i had been drankin since 5 and it was 9...yeah it was time for bed. i fell into a deep sleep. the phone rang, it was the faceless hiker boy i've been speaking to for months now. two and half hours later, we reluctantly hung up the phone and i laid there. sleepless till the sun came up, and when it arose, i was out like the fading stars.. and then it happened. i dreamt about belle and sebastian!! (you knew it was time for content didnt you?) yes it is true, i dreamt they were really mice! and they belonged to my parents! what the......? yeah that's what i thought too. okay that's all. ---your mountain mama sweetheart X ***Sometimes you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right*** ---Jerry. http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james at xxx.uk Sun Apr 7 01:10:11 2002 From: james at xxx.uk (James) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 01:10:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Something to talk about. Message-ID: I wrote you a letter, but I think I won't send it because it's just plain bad... no direction, no coherent use of English, not much. But actually I think I will anyway. When are you coming down? Tell me when you do or I'll just get angry. Any great scoops for the Summer? That fabulous time of monumental anti-climax when a little horn-shaped planet floated in front of a small star and gave birth to a new millennial phenomenon. Anything else, apart from the glorious advent and ignominious departure of summer itself, which never really makes stop press reading. As predictable as disasters, I think, but just tamer copy. But anyway. I am "working" in Victoria at the moment, currently sitting in a basement in Soho, eating a white chocolate muffin. Again, the eternal naive heartbreak when one discovers all the chocolate chips were on the top. I am criminally happy and healthy, overdosing on a million shocks to the system everywhere I go. Like I've been watching fuzzy black and white TV all my life and suddenly wandered into an Imax cinema. I really, properly love it here. Referring to the mention of the album cover design competition, I am forwarding a link with a little something I've knocked up. I would attach the graphic, but I'd rather not burden your modems with any unnecessary strains. http://www.poprevolution.co.uk/ubscarscabs/ I own the rights and I say 'Yes!', Del Monte style. All terrorists are welcome and thanks for the mention. I now realise that I was the one with all the talent and he was just sponging off my ideas. He was a hanger on. I was nearly robbed of my sanity on the way back to work on Thursday, stuck in the middle of a gaggle of 16-17 yr olds who spent the entire journey arguing about who was to sit where, and constantly moving about. Too many E numbers? Or just the extreme nervousness that comes with late adolescence? Actually it was quite funny, I can remember being like that with my friends at that age, it's all so exciting. Today I was bought a hot spicy pseudo exotic chilli meat pizza, which I ripped to shreds in public so I could make the public jealous. My friend once said that the supermarket was the new rock 'n' roll. Maybe she is correct because I enjoy getting nice food, staying at home and cooking it than any thing else. With strippers. And crack. I kinda miss you and it's tiring and physically my seams have rotted, but things are good. So far you've not broken your promise - it's been a pretty year. Jeremy Paxman took me out to dinner at The Ivy. What restaurants do you eat at? I should stop now and sleep. That sounds attractive. Keep in touch, you're ok really, aren't you... Be pure, be vigilant, behave. -- James Mitchell (james at chachacha.co.uk) "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Sun Apr 7 09:04:30 2002 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 09:04:30 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Rotterdam Message-ID: <20020407080430.43725.qmail@web10403.mail.yahoo.com> >From Marc Bots, who wasn't able to send this himself. Enjoy! > ------- > > dear sinister, > > just came back from the rotterdam gig, and it was > truly amazing. i don't > really know what to tell or what to skip, so this > may be a bit chaotic. > the gig took place in a true concert-hall, and the > sound was brilliant. > though i mst agree with a previous comment that it > was not loud enough. i > don't remember the tracklisting at all, but the > songs that were definately > played were: > > mayfly > the boy with the arab strap > a century of fakers > slow graffiti > there's to much love > don't leave the light on > i could be dreaming > is it wicked not to care > me and the major > the state i am in > the wrong girl > > there were many others. i've heard it was broadcast > on the radio, and if > anyone accidently taped it i would love to get a > copy. > > my personal highlight: the cover: here comes the > sun. i'd hear them play it > on the bbc, and when stuart asked which song they > should play that wasn't > theirs i asked for here comes the sun, which they > started playing a few > minutes later. it wasn't as perfect as the > bbc-version, but i'm sure i've > never been happier during any song on any concert in > my life. > > they enjoyed themselves, and loved the acoustics of > the hall. and asked us > if we would come again if they were to play in > holland again. > > that's all for now. time to sleep and then go > abroad. good night. love, > > marc __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joiscurious at xxx.com Sun Apr 7 12:06:12 2002 From: joiscurious at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?jo=20perry?=) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 12:06:12 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Gregory's girl. Message-ID: <20020407110612.45552.qmail@web12304.mail.yahoo.com> I have been hanging about, reading, deleting and smiling slyly at the posts of late, so a contribution is well overdue. Yes? I'm so glad you agree. Ahem, throat clearance necessary. London has looked rather content of late, the sun has indeed purchased a new hat and is parading about wearing it at a jaunty angle. The sunshine prompted 2 hours of complete relaxation yesterday as i donned my huge cordless headphones and let various Belle and Sebastian tracks recount their stories to me in glorious imaginary technicolour. Sometimes i need to remind myself why i love them, why Mayfly still leaves me torn between bopping about and lying still. Perhaps the answer is Gregory's girl type lie down dancing, Claire Grogan was the queen of funky wrist movement. So. The point is, after all the Brixton debate its good to take yourself back to the root of your affections for the beloved B&S. Ok. am off to play buckaroo. That donkey is always bolting. Jojo xxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Sun Apr 7 16:07:37 2002 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 16:07:37 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Gin to artifice bears the same relation as tears to mascara Message-ID: <20020407150737.2517.qmail@web14206.mail.yahoo.com> Hey, tweekids, check this out! It's your very own B&S cross stitch kit! http://sewkits.co.uk/belle.html I went to National Pop League not long ago and kept noticing people staring at mes pieds. Now, I have come to realise that my slender ankles and delicate tootsies are a foot fetishist's dream come true, but this was a different kind of stare. Could it be because I was out in my killer three and a half inch stillettos? I had a quick glance about at the chosen footwear of the other chicks on the dancefloor. A pair of mary janes here, some pointy flat pumps there, but overwhelmingly... trainers. C'mon, girls, let's bring some glamour to Glasgow, eh? Tsch. Hello to Spacekid and Anna (?) and everyone else who was there and Chrys Lyrnrd, who snuck off before I got a chance to speak to him. Be warned, next time there will be no escaping me. Mwah ha ha! The Edinburgh gig was good, if rainy. We got all wet walking to meet everyone, then got all wet going to meet Lixi (well, who wouldn't?) and then decided a taxi was in order. Gordon was a darling and bought my extra ticket. I spent all day wondering why on earth I had a spare, before realising it was provisionally for Richard John Gillanders Who Is In The Czech Republic (RJIWIITCR). How I could have forgotten that RJG was ITCR I don't know, as he seemed to be repeating his travel plans ad nauseam before he left, but there you are. Anyway, back to the gig. A lot of us stood in the back corner and through energetic dancing managed to clear a space in which to generally go bonkers and stuff. Then they played String Bean Jean, which is MY FAVOURITE B&S SONG AND I'VE NEVER HEARD IT BEFORE! And then somebody, who shall remain nameless, asked if it was a new one. What?! I thought you all had the EPs. If you don't, buy them now. I insist. They're as good as the albums, really, honestly. In some places, better. Lecture over. So, I finally have a job which begins tomorrow and my days of perfect housekeeping will be over. However, I might be able to read sinister during the day without giving pound coins to Easy Everything, which would be great, wouldn't it? I love you lot. Juicy Lucy x ps. What do Ailsa Watson and Rumplestiltskin have in common? ===== We're going out! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/london-indie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi_trenzano at xxx.es Sat Apr 6 16:12:40 2002 From: jordi_trenzano at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 17:12:40 +0200 Subject: Sinister: And there were gigs, balls and pubs. Message-ID: <000a01c1dd7d$ba5a11c0$6e6863d5@teleline.es> Helloooo everyone: I got home 24 hours ago after spending (for 1st time in me) some days in London, that city that I found quite big, actually. Wednesday, the picnic with Dmitra, Rachel, Archel, Hannah, Ben Apps, Greg-The Boy G (who is a Morrissey look-alike INDEED), Jeremy Breams, Lindsey....then, the Brixton pub, with Mr.Carsmile Steve, Ken Chu the sticker man, Sally Moore, Vel, Ruvi and Paul, Priscilla, Marianna... My regards to all of them, specially the people at the Brixton Pub, who I just met briefly. The notorious and easy to understand impatience of miss Sunny Belle made many of us go to the Academy quite soon. Life Without Buildings were quite good, specially that lovely singer that I guess she ended quite tired, because I haven't seen any pop singer jumping so much in the stage since the Baxendale gymnastic sessions that are their gigs. The gig was specially brilliant.All the songs I wanted to hear, "The state I am in" specially, the steel band (is it the right word ?), and many others. Met there our very own David Moore, at least ! oh, and mr. Sam Walton as well. The footie match was specially brilliant, 2 teams with 15 people each with Stuart showing that he can have a really loud voice when he's playing footie. For those who were there, I was the goalkeeper with blue shirt and white gloves, and some black shorts kindly lent by mr.Ben Apps. ¿ Anyone took pics ? I took some after the match, mr.Troussé took one of me, and I took a particular nice pic of miss Dmitra next to Stuart. The rest of my time was dedicated to tourism and seeing "24 hour party people", on a friday morning at Shaftesbury with only 2 people with me seeing the film. And it even made me want to dance inside the theatre. Anyone knows the website of the film ? hope it's distributed in Europe soon..... Cheers ! Jordi. Jordi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Sun Apr 7 18:55:18 2002 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 19:55:18 +0200 Subject: Sinister: black narcissus Message-ID: ok i'm gonna be a bad boy and write something completely incohert with this list, well not completely. my dear friend michiyo is on this list i have lost her address, michiyo please email me at jni at 2mba.dk (missconnections) while i am at it; writing shamefully non-belle and sebastian rantings, if you were a dark haired girl with a black shirt and white pearls around your neck at the belle and sebastian show in copenhagen a few weeks ago, if you noticed a little boy stomping his hands and claping his feets to the music, write me too. anyways, sorry for the list abuse... johan _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From maybemayday at xxx.com Mon Apr 8 00:25:21 2002 From: maybemayday at xxx.com (* Rae *) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 19:25:21 -0400 Subject: Sinister: in and out and in and out and in and out -- cant she make up her mind? Message-ID: so, i've been on this list on and off for the past three years or so... maybe longer, maybe shorter, but i can never really remember. actually, it was probably longer... because i joined shortly after i fell in love with b&s the first time, (though there hasnt really been a second time, but doesnt it sound neat when you say you fell in love with someone the first time? anyway...) and then posted some, and then left, and then rejoined and posted some, and then left, and so on and so forth. and now there is this current juncture, where i'm back again, and dont expect anyone to remember me (especially since i've recently adopted my middle name as my first name and have chosen to forget my first name exists)... but, i thought i would say hi, as i've been back for a little while now (and, actually, got out of the nursery in 2 weeks... now, thats never happened before, usually i get around to asking to be out by the 3rd..) and i'm still here. so, hi. i'm rae. pleased to meet you (some of you for the first time, others of you all over again, because i do recognize some names, still... ). i could blather on and tell you all the little insignificant details of my life, like how i'm at work right now (i'm a library assistant), and how i've been having reoccuring nightmares about an ex, and that i'm in north carolina going to college, and other boring and not very interesting things, but i dont think i'm going to. instead, i'm going to sing a song. i just wont tell you what it is, because you cant very well hear it anyway. without successfully punning, rae _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tsong at xxx.edu Mon Apr 8 01:07:21 2002 From: tsong at xxx.edu (Tsong) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 20:07:21 -0400 Subject: Sinister: B&S Kareoke Message-ID: <000b01c1de91$5a9dcdc0$e64017ac@resnet.rutgers.edu> You think they have B&S songs at kareoke bars? We should make some B&S kareoke videos so we'll get to sing at Japanese/Korean/Taiwanese kareoke bars. That would be wonderful. -Elsa +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tsong at xxx.edu Mon Apr 8 03:20:24 2002 From: tsong at xxx.edu (Tsong) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:20:24 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Dealing with Spelling Message-ID: <000e01c1dea3$f16ef1e0$e64017ac@resnet.rutgers.edu> I really think karaoke really looks better when it's spelled karEoke... -Elsa +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Mon Apr 8 12:41:27 2002 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 12:41:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The thinnest music fans in the world? Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC641A45@pikachu.ntu.ac.uk> ...she said, eating a chicken. Some more reviews for you... First, this one from the Independent: http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/reviews/story.jsp?story=282032 Not the best review ever, since it seems to be reviewing the Brixton academy sound system rather that the gig. Still, the following day in the Independent on Sunday, Simon Price decided that it would be even better to review the audience instead of B&S (something the NME have been doing for years for some reason). I haven't found the second one on their website, so here goes: "The world's greatest living rock critic, Simon Reynolds, once observed a 'physical determinism' among indie types when it comes to deciding what sort of musical tribe they will join. Reynolds was talking about the Cuties - the twee, childhood-fixated movement of the mid-Eighties - and the Softy Walker types it attracted, but he could as easily have been descibing a Belle and Sebastian show. Tonight, the Brixton Academy is full of girls with retard fringes and hairclips, and boys with bowlcuts and NHS specs. "The nation of Cuties disenfranchised by the rise of baggy and grunge rallied behind this band more than any other, and there were enough of them, a few years back, to block the phonelines and scam a Brit Award for their heroes. If the Academy's balcony isn't full, it's only because the official capacity could easily be accommodated in the stalls alone: this is the thinnest audience I've ever been in. "The music is as meagre as the crowd. Belle and Sebastian, long before 'Quiet Is The New Loud' became a handy slogan, made a virtue of gentleness. As minor scuffles break out between admonitory shushers and those urging B&S, Chuck D-style, to 'turn it up', the set is easily drowned out by the contingent down the front who know every word to 'The Boy With The Arab Strap'. "Just once, for the coda to 'Lazy Line Painter Jane', they pump up the volume and scare the wits out of anyone who'd fallen asleep. Not that the music matters: this isn't so much a Belle and Sebastian concert as a gathering of people who think Belle and Sebastian are a good idea. Which, if only for giving the world an album entitled Fold Your Hands Child, You Look Like A Peasant, I do. But I wouldn't shout about it." The comedy doesn't stop there. Underneath the review were four vox-pops (with accompanying awful photos) from people who had been to the gig, and who may or may not be on this list... Matt Jerome, Project manager, 26: "The were pretty poor. They didn't play any of their best songs, they didn't really interact with the crowd much. I was looking forward to it - I think they capture the essence of being different and being an outsider - but it was disappointing tonight." James Long, Postgrad student, 22: "I thought it was really impressive. It was quite slow to start off with, but once the band and the crowd got into it, it was really good. It was softer than I thought it would be, and I imagined it would be hard to get any impact across without it being louder, but they managed." Sarah Sonner, Student, 24: "It was great to see them, although I had hoped the sound would have been better. The girls weren't loud enough and they kept having to adjust levels and things. But I loved the way they interacted with the crowd, and the music sounded totally great." Mike Allen, Office clerk, 25: "I was a bit disappointed. Their more dynamic songs were excellent, but the others just didn't come across really and everyone just talked through them. The main woman singer just looked bored throughout most of it, which didn't help." They don't mention Richard's gurning behind the drumkit though (you should have seen him when he did a rock-out drumbreak during Suspicious Minds in Manchester...). And they also don't seem to have noticed that the band have been destroyed and replaced by clones - either that or Chris, Mick and Richard all go to the same hairdresser. So, reading between the lines, B&S are playing Glastonbury this year then? And the one year when I can't afford to go. Gutted. Mind you, it has been pointed out to me that the fact that I've now been to 11 B&S gigs may be slightly sad, so maybe I should take a break... Is there a medical condition for being addicted to a band? Bellaphilia? Big Stu (Content: 95%. Private Jokes: only one. I'm getting better...) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vote4dyer at xxx.com Mon Apr 8 13:09:47 2002 From: vote4dyer at xxx.com (Ramesh Srivastava) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 07:09:47 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Scenes from Dublin Message-ID: So, I am in Dublin and rather enjoying it. Some jet lag, but mostly OK. I did make an excursion to go pub crawling last night, but as it was Sunday, that ended back in the hotel, where I chatted with two fellows, one from Sheffield, the other from Birmingham. One of them sells 'natural' breast enhancement cream, and an electrosonic footbath which pulls toxins out of the body through the feet. He said that people begin with clean, warm water, and often end up with a pool of sludge, including small black worms. At that point, I extinguished my cigarette, and headed up to bed. Also, last night, I got a real bit of hospitality when I was offered a flower by two terrifyingly masculine boys with their terrifyingly feminine dates. Wow. I just shyed away with a smile and kept on walking. Then, one pronounces very loudly, IS that a guy or a girl? Tactful. I wasn't in drag, I wasn't even dressed questionably. I thought I had left that mentality behind in the states, but I suppose not. I'm not that bloody androgenous! Oh well, fuckers. But, anyway, I suppose I shall go out now and look at theatre options for the night. Oh yeah, something else nice happened. So, I woke up this morning and went to get breakfast. Post breakfast, I was through the television options, and I came on a house and garden improvement show called Trading Up, on the BBC. Last summer, going from London to Glasgow, I had been sitting, reading, when I noticed these two men, straing at me, talking about me, and making general commentary, in between mobile phone calls. It was actually a bit creepy, but I'm usually up for flattery from most any creature. SO, whatever, I thought nothing of it. Back to the television, low and behold, it was these two fellows hosting the show. They did a lovely number with a sort of farmhouse bit, however, the prospective buyer refused to make an offer. Anyway, there's that story. I must go and pursue my near future. I've got to call a fellow in Liverpool, where I might audition this week. Maybe i should play a Belle and Sebastian tune? Cheers, Remi _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Mon Apr 8 13:22:52 2002 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 13:22:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: riding with the top down. Message-ID: <3CB18B9C.A182BA2@camb.linst.ac.uk> hello, Just thought id share a dream i had last week with you all, people who don't like reading about peoples dreams may as well delete now. It was really sunny and i was in a convertable with the lovely Isobelle, she was driving and we were crusing around whilst listening to FISHYCLAP, i commented on her flute bits and she proceeded in taking me up a long set of steps whilst explaining, in great detail, the theory of the music. She got very excited and started drawing treble clefs and stuff on the walls with a big green pen. I didn't understand what she was talking about and just nodded politely. Then she took me into a room where they were stuffing toy cars into envelopes to be used as invitations to forthcoming gigs. She was so lovely to me in my dream that every time i see a picture of her now i feel like she is a good friend of mine. Oh, this B&S competition has thrown me, i have been spending the last two days solidly working on it when i should be working on other things. BA! Over christmas Mark C asked me what my least favourite B&S song was, i said "modern rock song" and everyone seemed to verbally chunder on my face, now i want to take this opportunity to take back what i said because it is a lot more beautiful than i had first realised and i'm sorry for saying something so completely STUPID. brilliant, i can sleep easy tonight, love hannah +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Mon Apr 8 14:14:48 2002 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 14:14:48 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: Sinister: you are known throughout the school for being strange Message-ID: i have been conducting a one-woman crusade to get to the bottom of the 'westlife steal b&s lyrics' scandal, but without mp3 evidence it's difficult to ascertain whether westlife ACTUALLY sing a cover of 'the model', or whether some jester posted those lyrics once and they've been assumed to be correct by the other sites (for there are many!) the first answer is obviously the most appealing... watch this space i guess. nice to see SGS grabbing her 15 seconds of fame in classic vox pop style... i always hope to be interviewed at a b&s event so i can say 'only belle and sebastian understand the torment of my uniquely sensitive soul' and the like, while biting my lip and fiddling with my retard fringe and plastic hairclips. funnily enough, you are more likely to see plastic hairclips on britney spears clones at skool disko these days... (and what exactly is a retard fringe?) i watched 'welcome to the dollhouse' last night. at one point a character shouts 'fuck this shit', nicely prefiguring the belles' contribution to 'storytelling'. i'd like to see dawn wiener as a b&s fan in waiting, but these days i fear she'd end up listening to staind. the whole film is painful to watch, in a kind of 'there but for the grace of god' way - my early teens were a british, and slightly less extreme, version of dawn's. how could i NOT be a belle and sebastian fan? luv archel xxx ps. apologies to james thorniley, rob brennan, marianna, jeremy and anyone else i neglected to namecheck after the picnic. i know you were there, honest :) pps. not that i'm conceited enough to think that being namechecked by me is on anyone's 'dreams come true' list. ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From anakin_sky at xxx.net Mon Apr 8 15:07:19 2002 From: anakin_sky at xxx.net (anakin_sky at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 16:07:19 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Sinister: Rotterdam Message-ID: <22480.1018274839@www11.gmx.net> some other songs they played that marc forgot to mention: seeing other people waking up to us dirty dream no.2 wandering alone + 2 other songs from storytelling legal man, of course, and an impro of oliver´s army. i totally agree with marc that belle were absolutely amazing, i saw them for the first time, although i´ve been a fan since 1996, they just never came to germany, as far as i know. i was so incredibly happy during the gig, the good thing about this not having been in britain was that it wasn´t so crowded, you could stand in front and you could dance and it was staged in a big theatre, really beautiful. afterwards we went to see david kitt, who was great, at the end he played a song that was about 20 minutes long and him and the band went all mogwai, really noisy and epic and intense. we haven´t seen much else, cause we needed some time to relax and drink beer, as you could neither smoke nor drink in the theatre itself, unfortunately. oh, and rotterdam is a beautiful city, not in the classic sense, much has been destroyed during world war II, but it´s very lively and cool and you can bicycle in the sun and have picnics by the water and stuff...nice. something personal at the end, today i got the confirmation that i will go to manchester in september to study there for a year. there were 3 places available in the erasmus programme, and i have got one and i´m really proud and happy and i can´t wait! love, anakin >From Marc Bots, who wasn't able to send this himself. > Enjoy! > > > ------- > > > > dear sinister, > > > > just came back from the rotterdam gig, and it was > > truly amazing. i don't > > really know what to tell or what to skip, so this > > may be a bit chaotic. > > the gig took place in a true concert-hall, and the > > sound was brilliant. > > though i mst agree with a previous comment that it > > was not loud enough. i > > don't remember the tracklisting at all, but the > > songs that were definately > > played were: > > > > mayfly > > the boy with the arab strap > > a century of fakers > > slow graffiti > > there's to much love > > don't leave the light on > > i could be dreaming > > is it wicked not to care > > me and the major > > the state i am in > > the wrong girl > > > > there were many others. i've heard it was broadcast > > on the radio, and if > > anyone accidently taped it i would love to get a > > copy. > > > > my personal highlight: the cover: here comes the > > sun. i'd hear them play it > > on the bbc, and when stuart asked which song they > > should play that wasn't > > theirs i asked for here comes the sun, which they > > started playing a few > > minutes later. it wasn't as perfect as the > > bbc-version, but i'm sure i've > > never been happier during any song on any concert in > > my life. > > > > they enjoyed themselves, and loved the acoustics of > > the hall. and asked us > > if we would come again if they were to play in > > holland again. > > > > that's all for now. time to sleep and then go > > abroad. good night. love, > > > > marc > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jamie at xxx.uk Mon Apr 8 18:27:00 2002 From: Jamie at xxx.uk (Jamie Harrison) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 18:27:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I love my twee mug Message-ID: <002d01c1df22$98a002f0$9865fea9@JAMIESROOM> Hello to everyone! Well that's got that out of the way, Monday, first day back to work, and I have been a busy bee. Usually I feel, and look, a bit like a zombie on a Monday 'cos I don't sleep very well on Sunday nights. I did last night though, and the first thing I said out loud when I woke was, "Oh no, It's Monday!" It took ages to get into work today, courtesy of Central Trains and we all crammed in, you could hardly move!! A usual occurance on our friendly neighbourhood line. Anyway I arrived at the office, displaying my "I Love My Car" t shirt in all it's glory. It got me some funny looks from my colleagues, but I don't care. One of them actually reckons that I'm B & S's only fan. He's taking the piss, but I'd actually feel quite flattered, "imagine if a band were making albums just for me!" I said, he shut up then. I'll leave him to his Linkin' Shite. Got to the end of the day and went off home. I turned up Gorky's loudly on my cd player on the train. I managed to embarrass myself by being totally oblivious to all around me, so the ticket collector got a bit narky when I didn't show him my ticket! As I'm writing, "Electric Renaissance" has just started. I love it! Drinking tea too from my twee mug, it sums me up completely; cows and rabbits eating grass in a field with huge smiles on their faces. I'd love to live in that world, I can dream anyway. I suppose I'd better end there as this is hardly sintilating reading. I will just say, as I missed out on the live stuff this time, I've enjoyed reading about the gigs. Hopefully I'll be reporting back myself one day in the future! "La-la-la, yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah" Love, Jamie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amy.longcore at xxx.com Tue Apr 9 03:33:57 2002 From: amy.longcore at xxx.com (amy.longcore at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 22:33:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i'm a liar, i lie ( detroit and chicago meet up info or something) Message-ID: ok, so this isn't my last post from this email adress. i've been asked to restate this information for those missing in the loop.... sinister-mi at umich.edu is a mailing list set up for peeps going to the detroit/chicago shows. if you would like on the list, please email ree at littlearsonist at yahoo.com for crying out loud, say something too! like, give ideas and stuff. stuff is always always good, so don't hold back. this is total and complete abuse, but to be expected at show times, don't'cha think? yeah, ok, anyway.... hardcore content: the ladies on the cover of (s)torytelling are PHWOAR! content about other musicians: dude, high llamas "green coaster" sounds trippingly a lot like gorkys content about me: there are people on this earth i do genuinely hate. carry on, amy (applekins at hotmail.com) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Tue Apr 9 12:20:34 2002 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 12:20:34 Subject: Sinister: Suckers, fuckers and stupid retards Message-ID: <287931064@spray.se> Hullo Sinister, It's been a while.. I'm at school now, doing boring stuff. Right now I have my english class, surely this must be counted as english? Ok, ok, I'm supposed to get some facts about Louisiana but I don't realy feel like it anymore. This was more fun. Yeah. I know I said I was going to post out the Stockholm giglist, and I will, but I just don't have it here right now.. It was one of the best nights of my life.. ahhh... Today, I haven't really done anything at all. I've been listening to my freestyle whilst having lessons, and I wrote a letter during my social sciences-class.Hee hee hee. And she strikes again.. uh.. man I'm such a nerd. I was thinking on printing that on a t-shirt, I'm a nerd. People in my school wouldn't get the fun of it and just go "huhuhuhuhuh, yeah, you are, huhuhuhuhhhuh" and think they're clever.. I'm going to England the first weekend of June, hurrah! London in fact, brilliant. I'm longing! Today I'm borrowing a digital camera from the school, for my own stuff, sites and bands and everything. I brought an interviewrecorder to the B&S gig, and I used the videocamera worht 10 000 crowns for recording my band and taking photo's and stuff. The schoolboard should just KNOW that I am probably the one using the school's things the most. And it's not even for schoolwork. I consider myself bad because of that..! Oh my god! Love, Astrid x _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Tävla och vinn med nya Coca-Cola Light i årets roligaste Quiz! http://quiz.spray.se/cocacola +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Tue Apr 9 13:34:52 2002 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 13:34:52 BST Subject: Sinister: not another picnic report (sort of) Message-ID: <29DDD9050C2@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> hey kids, so... i meant to report back about meetup / gig stuff that happened last week ages ago, but i've been busy failing job interviews and waiting for the plumber (who still hasn't come and we've had no hot water since last tuesday). it seems that everything there was to say has been said, but i'll just add that it would be wise to remember to never leave will haigh in a room alone with chewy sweets and dairylea...eugh. i also need to assert that mr c. geddes is the nicest man in the whole world, he spent a good ten minutes running round the appollo waving his laminate at anyone who would look in an attempt to get me and mat (who incidently was in the year above ben apps at school - fact!) past the bouncers and into the backstage area. once we were in it was something of a disappointment, i think keats would have muttered something about unheard melodies being sweeter, but then we clearly wouldn't be allowed into the really secret inner sanctum where struan keeps his drugs and whores. oh, i was quite determined not to make this another reporting back post as i've just read about fifty such things, so i'll just mention how after the gig i danced until i couldn't breathe anymore, and how much i ached in the morning. its also nice to have heard the chicken related story of what happened on the bus. i always miss the best bits. but there was serious drinking to be done and i secretly knew it would be just as cheap to get a taxi. some people said things in posts that i meant to comment on, but i've completely forgotten what any of them were which is always handy, so i'll leave you for now, love and humous, fiona. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Tue Apr 9 09:32:42 2002 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 09:32:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Glastonbury Message-ID: <007901c1dfa5$9c96a200$8c84fc3e@neil> Just to confirm that B&S will be appearing on the 2nd stage at Glastonbury on Sunday June 30th this year. Rock on. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Tue Apr 9 10:26:58 2002 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:26:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Glastonbury Message-ID: <01a601c1dfa8$ccb81380$9426fea9@katrina> April 9th 2002 Belle & Sebastian follow their three sell-out UK gigs with the announcement that they are to play the 2002 Glastonbury Festival. This will be the bands first mainstream UK festival appearance, after curating the inaugural Bowlie Festival in Camber Sands 1999 which was later to become All Tomorrows Parties. Belle & Sebastian will appear on the second stage at Glastonbury on Sunday June 30th. cheers, katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6ld scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk Tue Apr 9 12:05:42 2002 From: MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk (Michael Ashbridge) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:05:42 GMT Subject: Sinister: Aural Sex Message-ID: <612C4A4347@Blackstaff.ulst.ac.uk> Has anyone else noticed how the start of Fuck This Shit sounds like the start of Last of the Summer Wine? Will wee stu end up like Compo? It's enough to bring tears to the eyes. http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/events/motelmozaique2002/index.shtml?2534202+567910 4+5681685+6011200 - Our Dutch friends have reviewed the Rotterdam gig *and* thrown up live streams of the concert. Quality recordings, mind you. No aural crap from our continental cousins. Obviously a very friendly liberal lefty pinko commie bastard of a sound engineer, bless him, willing to share. Dial-ups will have to hum what they remember of their own concert. This one's for the badass The eagle-eyed among you will have spotted that the Dutch for TWEE is, oddly, TWEE. And, if you read the entire thing out loud in a Swedish-chef-esque Dutch- type accent, you'll see it was a great review, full of delight and praise. Better than the shite written in the Brit press anyway. Oh, and if you listen very carefully during I'm Waking Up To Us, you can hear wee Isobel calling Struan a "cunt", thus clearing up the mystery of her feelings on that subject. (No, really. You have to listen hard. I think I strained my ear muscle, but it's definitely there.) Bonus extra: I'm only realising it's completely unedited. I'm listening to Stu chatting to the string players. They're all wearing specs and he's asking if it was a group decision or if it just happened. He hates it when the backing people look better than the band. "It's shit," apparently. "You should all be holding saxophones or something." I'm still waiting for them to pun Mr Chu on-stage. It's only a matter of time... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Tue Apr 9 15:00:26 2002 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 15:00:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: And I will wear a badge to show my delight Message-ID: So, our favourite wandring mistrels are taking themselves to Glastonbury to spread a little love. Hmmm. I wonder who will be dedicated and hardy enough to follow them? Not I, for one. If you're going, do remember to pack hat, scarf, super noodles, contraceptive devices various and sherry. It's a jungle out there, kids. There has been much Reporting Back of gigs. I went to the Manchester show with my sister (not a fan, found the tweeness amusing), her fellow and Daveylicious, ex-sinister and member of the East Midlands Massive. It was good, but not that good, certainly not as good as when I saw them last summer. It was quiet, but then again, I was standing near the bar, at the back. I felt rather disconnected from it, but that's a churlish thing to complain of. The thing that really did piss me off was some ugly drunken hecklers standing next to me, shouting and generally making spanners of themselves. (And if you're on the list, I'm not sorry, you were a pain in the arse). I don't get it. Why do people spend quite a considerable amount of money to see a band and then spend the night drunk and abusive? No one's asking you to be there, drunk hecklers! No one's forcing you to shell out fifteen quid for a band you hate! I shall soon be joining the ranks of bookshop girls, as I have recently conned someone into employing me in his second hand bookshop. It has very few customers and smells funny. Great. My signature scent will become the odour of musty, well-loved old books and I will attract handsome clever boys and girls for whom this smell is an aphrodisiac. I can't harldly wait. It's the job I've always wanted, although I have recently been turning my sights toward long distance lorry driving. All that time alone to listen to records and audio books and all that huge lack of people. (was that a sentence, or was it butchery of the English language?). Question. Can the Americans amongst us please explain, in full lurid detail (or charming euphemism if you wish) what exactly first, second and third base are? I mean, I do know generally, but I want specifics. If someone sticks their hand up my top, what baseball euphemism would I use to describe it, if I were so inclined? Is there fourth base, or does it go to home run after third base? I am eager for knowledge. I have recently been extending my repetoire of places frequented on a night out. I have been gay clubbing, pretentious indie clubbing, down to earth indie clubbing and goth clubbing. All have been very amusing, but not for the right reasons, I'm sure. Clubbing either makes me feel like a teenager again, or like a slightly uncool auntie at a wedding. I always seem to miss the mark. Speaking of Marks, well done to Big Gay Mark C, on recent employment. A G&T to you next time we meet. Cheerio, petals. Madeleine xxxx PS I've been reliably informed that the 'I HEART KEN CHU' badges were my idea. Ooops. Sorry. I never thought I'd be in any way responsible for mass maths teacher worship. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From younnoh at xxx.com Tue Apr 9 16:32:37 2002 From: younnoh at xxx.com (Youn Noh) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 08:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: A Tree * A Rock * A Cloud Message-ID: <20020409153238.72540.qmail@web21208.mail.yahoo.com> The only way I can be close to you is through your songs. Well, that's nothing to complain about. See, I met this couple and they made me think of the sleeve notes to 'Love Is A Sign'. A passenger in their car. The streets of Oslo in winter. A guest in their flat. Anticipating garden parties in summer. No geezer crying into his beer in a Wetherspoon's pub could write a song as coquettish, as positively flirty, as Number 4. So the Reverend Beebe said of Lucy Honeychurch, "If she ever lives as she plays, it will be very exciting." No, let her play. See, it's already in the archives: > I seem to recall that Henri Bergson once said: > 'If reality could immediately reach our senses and our > consciousness, if we could come into direct contact > with things and with each other, probably art would be > useless, or rather we should all be artists...' > > (Actually this is from the canonical essay 'Laughter', > from around 1899.) He laughed and showed his white teeth. I can't believe that he ever smoked. Their shadowed intimacy... and and sweetness! Still, I had emerged from Euston station, on a quest of my own, and had walked rapidly in a southerly direction. The term was over, but there were still students hanging around, faculty or staff on their way home. No photos permitted. No tricks, no sleights of hand. Susan Sontag writes, "[...] W.G. Sebald [...] by seeding his books with photographs, infuses the plainest idea of verisimilitude with enigma and pathos." I don't believe in this. The streets look different when you're not there. (Would I even see them if you were?) So when I visit them alone, 'verisimilitude' is not what I'm after. I'm weaving my own dreams. The reader will not understand. Might as well make a book of boring postcards, without captions. (In that Parr exhibition, I realized that nostalgia is what saves kitsch from vulgarity.) The titles say plenty. One could walk past without knowing it. 'SOAS' is loud enough, but no 'SEH'. The quiet corner of a building. I seem to remember red brick and perhaps stone lions' heads. A significant history, of which I know nothing. They say Russell was a posh aristocrat. Student magazines. The future of the Trevelyan collection. I read the article at the bus stop. It put me in mind of freshman courses on composition--the careful exposition. This is no criticism: as you can see, I have enough trouble getting out of my own head. So I rolled it up into a telescope, into a baton, waving it in the air to march in time back to Finsbury Park, where my hurried goodbyes betrayed my anxiety (or relief?) at parting. Cos, you see, it was almost too much to take in at once, so I lost my head and couldn't remember important facts, like names of venues and their discography. What I'm after is the disinterested phase in attraction, in which the significance of a reply is not weighed against the pleasure of the other's company. But I feel like that geezer in 'A Tree * A Rock * A Cloud': even kids can see through me. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Tue Apr 9 17:04:34 2002 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 17:04:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Reporting Redux Message-ID: ello babies so basically take bits other ppl have said and say other things agreeing or disagreeing, including "MAN BOOBS" at one point (also plugging)(also also using the word "also" too much): jo perry: So. The point is, after all the Brixton debate its good to take yourself back to the root of your affections for the beloved B&S. Which is what i was thinking, I was thoroughly depressed after wednesday's show, as i thought it was lacklustre and not particularly exciting and forgetting words is neither big nor clever and swing my cock around was atrocious and LLPJ - MQ = pointless, and I thought, "maybe that's it, maybe the love affair is over", but then yesterday i was on the bus to london and listening to 369, DOW and FISHYCLAP and i felt much much better, and i think i'm happy again now thank you :) Also, if you were at the gig and you look like nick dastoor and some random drunken fool came up to you and said "hello dear" and then wandered off again, that will have been ME, but it's your fault for looking like Nick Dastoor (it should be pointed out however that i had been told not thirty minutes earlier that ND would NOT be at the gig, so maybe it was the bouze). Idles: It was Stuarts pecs I was more taken by. Phwoarr!!! *licks lips, bounces knee up and down, makes wolf whistles, and general other cartoon-like behaviour* from where i was standing on wednesday (and it might just have been the lighting) they looked far more like MAN BOOBS!!! although he's still as thin as a rake... Maddy: So, our favourite wandring mistrels are taking themselves to Glastonbury to spread a little love. Hmmm. I wonder who will be dedicated and hardy enough to follow them? Not I, for one. If you're going, do remember to pack hat, scarf, super noodles, contraceptive devices various and sherry. It's a jungle out there, kids. Loads of us are going to Glasto, look we all live here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/siniglasto/ come and play, innit! also i reckon it's going to be a muddy one this year so bring yer wellies. also also, anyone having sex at glasto is a sick sick pervert. also also also, on a factual point, it's a field not a jungle... Lucy Alder: ps. What do Ailsa Watson and Rumplestiltskin have in common? I need to know the answer to this. now. xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From esme at xxx.com Tue Apr 9 15:50:19 2002 From: esme at xxx.com (ee fumblings) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 15:50:19 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: haikus revealed // week thirteen // two thousand and two Message-ID: Hey everyone, A lot of this is old news. The first few paragraphs. Ditto here. Stop by for rice and curry if you're in the area. GREEN PARK tube is a big gate which leads into GREEN PARK. this is, well, green. And it took us a few moments, to realise it was Stuart Murdoch. Waking Up to Us various songs from the new soundtrack album thing. H, Stevie T and a host of other old skool siniboys and girls. I prod everyone "wasn't that Stuart?!" "Who? That old man?" they reply. I'm not trying to think or imagine. Then, I quite like it. OK. I spied Lorna from a distance, mingling with the Dundee posse. I like chris best, cause he's nice, and he smiled at me, which was nice too! hmm.. Belle and Sebastian have a new album out! here's a picture of it... I realised that was just because of the two girls on the cover. It looks like the one on the right is doing a bit of needlework. It's about time we get some street cred. with our record purchases. I've said I love you to countless chocolate bars, and not really meant it. As usual, they finished with Legal Man, but with a difference. He says, "Don't insult me" when I try to pay him for a lemonade. We talk about this all the time. It exhausts us and we keep talking. How could they do what they did, knowing that? We will all die soon enough. Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go. Sunnyset did. Mao was played: Hannah Brown threw the cards down in a huff. Sleep. Now, I'll make like a worried shepherd and get the flock out of here. I hadnt been too shy to go and talk to them. It made me feel sad. Sinister: Tori Spelling (like, a play on words, with Storytelling). I don't really care, I wouldn't have anything to do anyway... I'm not happy with my life, with my career, I'm not happy at all. I took a very hot bath on Tuesday night to make sure I would sleep. Numbers fell as time rolled on, but the hardcore few continued to play. I think she managed to get over things a lot faster than I did. Someone had a big Bing Crosby cap at the front, so I borrowed that. Nearly everything has been said about the UK bit of the tour now. Tuesday. Back to the notebook, it now being in EasyEverything. Thing is, one has one's own soul to reckon with at the end of the day. I talk about drink so no wonder he thinks I'm an alcoholic. DOWN TO YER KNEES IN TEN YEARS TIME! Knockers? more like clackers in a while. When are you coming down? Tell me when you do or I'll just get angry. Ok. am off to play buckaroo. That donkey is always bolting. What?! I thought you all had the EPs. If you don't, buy them now. I insist. I might post again shortly without being so arsey. Take care all. // ee // +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Tue Apr 9 19:09:42 2002 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:09:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Wanking alone Message-ID: For some reason I find being patronised very amusing, in the UK (UK = United Kingdom) there's an advert for this new shaving device from Gilettes (Gilettes - the best a man can get), that has THREE blades in one so that you don't need as many strokes to get a clean shave, and thus will suffer less of the irritation. The advert spends half a minute explaining this fact, together with a diagram showing how the three blades can be used to cut things, like facial hair, resulting in less strokes required, and thus less irritation. At the end of the commerical, to top it all off, the narrator summerised by saying: "Three blades, less strokes, less irritation" repeatly. It was great, it's almost as much patronising fun as listening to the narrative of P.C.A. (P.C.A. = Police Camera Action). Driving wildly down the road, you might end up in Somerset for the Glastonbury festival this year, where B+S (B+S = Belle and Sebastian) are to be playing! I wasn't going to go but now I'm tempted, the two years I didn't go despite huge temptation saw me missing Radiohead, REM and David Bowie. I don't know if I can bare missing it this year. (REM = Rapid Eye Movement) Mark C (C = Casarotto) was angry about some recent hasty e-mails concerning Mr Stu(art/ran)/Struan, and in the process raised a very valid point: >>...just like the baseless and incomprehensible worship of Ken Chu stuck.<< I too, for a long time, have been struggling to comprehend all of the fondness toward humble little me, and I do agree that really, the baseless worship should stop, as I'm sure it's not only Mark who's getting annoyed. However, the BASEFUL parts of the worships should carry on! Especially worships based on CRUSH VOTES for KEN! mmmhm! Or maybe FREE BOOZE for KEN! To summerise: 1) being patronised can be fun 2) i shouldn't miss glastonbury this year 3) send ken crush vote. 4) send ken free booze. crush votes and RB (RB = Red Bull) Ken p.s.: hannah brown said: >>...i was in a convertable with the lovely Isobelle,<< It's ISOBEL! p.s.2: I was joking during p.s.1 p.s.3.: (p.s. = postscript) p.s.4.: Now that all of the B&S Treasure Hunt trophies have been found, I wonder if the answers to the treasure hunt clues will be revealed any time soon. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Tue Apr 9 19:19:00 2002 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_S.?=) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 20:19:00 +0200 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?bla_bla_bla_bla_bla_bla?= Message-ID: hello sinisters long time no posting and being recently double nursed and attended to my first B&S gigs as well as picnic a few days ago before arriving herein Holland.... nice day for tulipans.. actually it is not the proper season yet but they wouls sping out in days, that's what local say and we have to trust them, don't we? anyway ducks and channals are fine enough if you ca survive the 100 km/h speed cycling needed to be home every night. I know It's completly content less, and that's problay why I haven't posted for a while... just to say it was great to spend a sunny aftrnoon with all the other sinsiters in the park in the hope of see and hear for you soon take care stefano +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carmellie at xxx.com Tue Apr 9 19:47:07 2002 From: carmellie at xxx.com (Carmellie) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: pleas for booze In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020409184707.11258.qmail@web11606.mail.yahoo.com> Although I don't frequently get to read all the postings to this list (but I do read it more than my homework!), I still have noticed quite a fondness for Ken Chu. And also all the little puns on his name--which, I might mention, I rather enjoy. Not that he doesn't deserve it, but how did that all get started? I'm just really out of the loop! Sorry I can't send you any booze, it costs a lot of money to send that from Portland, Oregon to the UK. Sadly enough, I will be missing the Glastonbury festival (as other years when I didn't even know it existed). I will be in Europe, but in the wrong part...damn. I will be in Spain at that time and just getting into my uncle's hometown of Elche. Damn the timing. I am DYING to see B&S again! I saw Jonathan Richman last week with my best friend who went to all 3 shows with me last year and we felt like B&S needed to take the stage next. Unfortunately i was awake, so it didn't happen. I still had fun at the show. Ah...I'll have to be patient, which is NOT a virtue for me! Carmel PS--I never knew what "P.S." meant literally--thanks Ken Chu! <> ===== "i may have got an invitation but i wasn't invited. but i thought that this meant something more than broken hearts and new addictions." --Death Cab for Cutie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Tue Apr 9 20:04:03 2002 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 20:04:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Have You Got A Light Mac? Message-ID: <000001c1dff9$58f84180$7ebe7ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, 3 a.m. MORAY PLACE I decided not to post. About gigs & stuff, I mean. Because I did already. Way into the wee hours of last Tuesday morning, excited past sleep. It was good. Rewritten to perfection. Better version followed improved, peaking at one point like Longfellow, pounding like Hiawatha. Then in the style of early Tolkein. But it was all in my head. Only in my head. Gone now. Except for Usher Hall – Sarah holding large sheets of paper with the lyrics to Van’s singalong classic, casting them aside like so many Subterranean Homesick Blues. Brixton Academy – Stru-anne during I’m Waking Up To Us “the chapter is closed”: lifts his hands up, a book in charades, snaps the volume shut. THE QUEEN’S CHILD How is Ailsa like Rumplestiltskin? Hmmmm. Is it because she screeches like a banshee during the closing part of a Belle And Sebastian concert? No, that would make her like Sweetie. So it must be that like that fairy tale character she got so carried away that she stamped her foot so hard into the ground that her whole leg went in. Luckily there the similarity ended, because she didn’t grab the other leg & pull herself in two. Do I win a prize, Ms Alder? :) KEN CHU IS NEARLY A CULT Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Tue Apr 9 21:18:43 2002 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 20:18:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Love of language, interest in character and sense of theatre. Message-ID: Dear Sinister, Today I was reading �Careless Talk Costs Lives� the music magazine that held the interest of more than a few people here when it first came out, because Stuart Murdoch was allegedly in it. Normally I shy away from the music press entirely, or, more specifically, I shy away from buying the music press entirely, since I�m often to be seen shiftily reading the review sections of Q, Uncut, NME, The Wire and others in shops, without ever having the intention of buying. In fact, in a move that screams �too much time on your hands� I sometimes read half the reviews that interest me from a copy of Q in, say, HMV, before putting it back and nipping down to WH Smiths to read the other half. In doing that, I get to read all the reviews I want without loitering without intent in either shop. But to say that such activities were motivated by having too much time on my hands would be false, since usually when I do that, there are a thousand other, more important things I should be doing. I�d like to say my aversion to the music press is motivated by a political or artistic gripe � that the NME�s traditional fare of hyping bands to the point where they inflate like shiny, heart shaped helium filled balloons into premature rock ascendancy, and then proleptically (Microsoft Word seems to think �proleptically� isn�t a word, but it has been proven wrong in the past), claim that they, the NME, never really thought all that much of them in the first place. I�d like to say that, and I do think that, to a degree. I�d also like to say that my aversion stems from their penchant for guitar music make by pretty white boys over all else has been detrimental to the growth of other musical genres, at least in terms of sales, that their reviews and features are based in fashion and sensationalism, rather than telling us something useful about the band or record in question, that they are continually changing their minds about who it�s ok to like and who it isn�t, that their tastes are infinitely conservative until the �avant garde� they so frequently deride and sneer at, comes up with something they actually like, at which point they take it on board like an old friend they�d known for years (e.g. the new Jim O�Rourke record). I�d like to be able to say all of that, and I do think that, to a degree, but my main reason for not buying any magazines (though I read a few reviews online for free), is firmly cash based. That�s right kids, it�s art vs. commerce, and commerce always wins (a bonus point if you can name the reference). But I�ve digressed, as I inevitably do, I didn�t actually buy this copy of �Careless Talk Costs Lives� it was borrowed to me by a friend some days ago, though lord knows why he bought it, he doesn�t listen to any of the bands in it, which is probably why he hasn�t asked for it back � it�s the one with the blurry, grainy photograph of the Dirtbombs singer on the front anyway. And reading it made me remember why I don�t dip into music magazines all that much for the most part � their feature on said Dirtbombs was, for example, appalling in it�s sycophancy, I thought, a sprawl of catch-all terms like �raw� �visceral� �fun� and �essential� even. Now don�t get me wrong, I happen to quite like The Dirtbombs, I�ve even got their new album, I liked their live thing for John Peel, but this feature was the kind of lazy dross that reminded me of when I used to read the NME � the very fact that The Dirtbombs are getting radio play now, them being a years old garage rock combo is a prime example, perhaps, of just how much UK audiences are enamoured with The Strokes, The White Stripes et al, how The Dirtbombs, who as I understand it have been ploughing the same furrow for years, not worrying at all about success or any of that, feel about suddenly being en vogue, suddenly being part of the musical zeitgeist, was not addressed. Instead it was four or five tiresome pages of the bands rock and roll excesses and how great they are. Pity. It got worse though, as I read on, �Careless Talk Costs Lives� thinks enough of itself to frequently slag off rival publications, most frequently The NME and The Wire, which annoyed me really � it called The NME �a mouthpiece for authority� and The Wire �pretentious�, both of which, I suppose, are fair enough criticisms, perhaps not ones I myself would use because I think you have to appreciate that both magazines are made for a certain demographic, and with that in mind, they don�t do all that badly. It does sound a bit silly though, coming from another music mag, especially one that, content-wise, seems to sit between the two, featuring bands that are a bit more leftfield than the ones that make the NME, but ignoring anything that might be �jazz� or �modern classical� or �improvised�. And it also sounded a bit silly when �Careless Talk�� employed a style not that dissimilar to its hated rivals, so we got some snotty NME fawning sensationalism in the Dirtbombs article, coupled with some Q style this is what (dad)rock is all about type stuff, as well as the classic �witty� NME perfunctory put-down, I believe chief careless talker Everett True reviews the new Lee �Scratch� Perry record simply with the word �whatever�. How fantastically punk rock of him. But there was also the kind of snotty, Wire style pretension in lots of the reviews, as well as the laborious, Wire style laborious, strained, blokey type reviews in abundance. I wasn�t much impressed really. Another qualm was their continual derision of Radiohead, but there wasn�t any substance to it (they do it to a couple of other bands too, but Radiohead came up the most times I think). I like Radiohead, but I certainly don�t think they�re infallible, and I�m yet to see a serious piece on their failings, glib put-downs just don�t cut it, surely a magazine that wants to rise above the NME�s pettiness should be avoiding such witless quips, they just aren�t going to convince anyone. Their dislike for Radiohead seemed to be solely based on the fact that the band were successful, and again, surely a magazine that wants to rise above the NME�s pettiness should be avoiding the frankly stupid assertion that being in the charts = being crap. I think the idea of the magazine is a return to the DIY aesthetics and �realness� of fanzines, but in reality it seemed to occupy a territory that has the worst bits of fanzines (unexplained dislike for certain bands, fabulous praise for others, sneering, hints that the writers think they�re the coolest people on earth), combined with the worst bits of the bigger magazines. Not a fun read at all really. I certainly wont be buying it in the future, not that I bought it this time, but still� I wrote that a while ago, but neglected to send it, I think because it contains too much negativity, and I thought I needed to balance it out with something a bit more upbeat. The new edition of �Careless Talk�� has since come out and I believe it has the sprightly Conor Oberst, of Bright Eyes fame on the cover. I hastily glanced through it yesterday in HMV, and had a quick read of an email interview they did with Hefner, one or two things struck me about the article, firstly, that the writer accused Hefner�s competition of being �either too old (Pulp), or too shit (Belle and Sebastian).� Now not only is this the kind of childish dig I was bemoaning earlier, but this article is followed directly (on the same page even) with a piece written by none other than Stuart Murdoch! Perhaps they aren�t all that keen on Stuart�s writing and are trying to get him to quit, or perhaps this is �Careless Talk� at its fiery best, with diverse and even contradictory opinions vying for space, a truly multi-faceted publication. Whichever, putting the two articles together like that did strike me as churlish, and if I were Stuart I might be a bit offended. The other, and probably more important thing that struck me about the Hefner article was an acute sense of d�j� vu � I�m sure I�ve read it somewhere before on the net, and I remembered that when (if?) I read it before; the interesting bit of the article is Darren Hayman talking about his song writing technique. Darren regards himself as a professional writer, you see, writing is his job, and that his songs come from lots of hard work rather than flashes of inspiration. This did disappoint me a bit, because it takes the magic away from Hefner�s songs, we expect people we admire to be spontaneous and brilliant all the time - as they are in whatever it is we admire them for (perhaps this is what celebrities mean by the pressures of fame), and rarely do we acknowledge the toil that has gone into their art. I always pictured Darren, post coital, scribbling his grubby thoughts on the back of a taxi card with a chewed biro, another paean to being unable to distinguish between love and sex. Seeing the real truth in front of me - that he probably spends more time sat in front of a piano, notebook in hand than he does chatting up girls, was odd, we want our rock stars to live the dream don�t we? And although if, prior to reading the article, I would�ve really thought about it, I would have admitted to myself that a lot more work went into Hefner songs than you�d think, having Darren himself admit it is like him breaking the magicians code. Two more, similar images have entered my head whilst I was thinking about all that, both from comedians incidentally, the first is from me reading an article about Harry Hill, it might have been an interview with his wife actually, and she was saying that he spends hours and hours every day on his comedy, that he has books of the stuff, a whole room full of books on comedy and comedians. And though I�d always thought that there was a sort of deliberateness to Harry Hill�s stuff, seeing it put like that somehow makes his comedy less �funny� because half the reason we enjoy stuff like that is that it seems spontaneous. The other thing I was thinking about was a TV thing I saw, which had Paul Whitehouse (of Fast Show fame), and he was saying that he hardly ever laughs at comedy anymore, since he became a comedy writer, that sometimes he�ll see things and he�ll be able to say �Yeah, that�s funny.� In a detracted sort of way, but comedy no longer affects him as it used to. I found this terribly sad, that the thing he loves has been changed because of his knowledge of the process involved in creating it � because he is so involved with this process, he is no longer able to fully enjoy the end product as much, or in the same way. I found this terribly sad, and I believe it was Oscar Wilde who wrote: �Yet each man kills the thing he loves.� And how true that is. But Darren Hayman, Harry Hill and Paul Whitehouse must have all thought, naively as I do that genius is not, to drag out the old clich�, 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration, but something more ethereal, that the universal truths that art strives for must be plucked from the air, rather than diligently laboured over. God, that�s depressing isn�t it? I promised something more upbeat didn�t I? Well that comes in the form of all singing, all dancing, guitar jousting folk hipsters Belle and Sebastian, who I saw in London whenever it was, about this time last week. Lots of people have written well about the gig, so I wont go on about it too much, except to say that it was great and everything despite a few songs not coming off too well, blah blah blah. I was quite surprised though, when I got inside the venue, that it had been described, on more than one occasion as �soulless� since it actually wasn�t too bad, certainly a vast improvement on the bland, squat Birmingham version of the academy. On the way there I met a medical student called Dave who was a bit lost like me, and once we got inside we shouted over the records that were playing enough for me to learn that he didn�t recognise records by Hefner, The Velvet Underground, The Magnetic Fields or some others who I�ve forgotten � he didn�t know all that much about music, which left me with very little to talk to him about, he didn�t recognise �String Bean Jean� or the Only Ones� song at the end either, nice guy though. I completely forgot to ask him if he was on the list though, I doubt it, since he completely forgot to ask me either. I had a lovely time anyway, and cheers to Hannah again for letting me stay at her gaff (I quite like the word �gaff�). I�ll be off then - Kieran p.s. Kudos to whoever is taking Sinister�s collective meanderings and relaying them back to us in the form of haikus, clever that, very Warholian. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marisa_privitera at xxx.com Tue Apr 9 21:52:47 2002 From: marisa_privitera at xxx.com (Marisa Privitera) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 13:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Boston Message-ID: <20020409205247.28000.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> Are there enough people on the list to have a picnic at Boston Common the day of the Show? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Tue Apr 9 23:53:53 2002 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 23:53:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: fancy a quick one? Message-ID: If so read on, as this mail is nice and short. Still, it's what you do with it that counts. did you notice this mail: on 6/4/02 11:26, scooby6 at uboot.com at scooby6 at uboot.com wrote: > and another thing... am i the only working class fan they have, i did feel > outnumbered... Who let this oik in? Giles! Tarquin! Release the hounds! or this: on 9/4/02 17:04, Stephen Hewitt at shewitt at ruskin.ac.uk wrote: > from where i was standing on wednesday (and it might just have been the > lighting) they looked far more like MAN BOOBS!!! although he's still as > thin as a rake... round my way they are always called BITCH TITS. Not that I have them or anything. beyond that I have been enjoying Ken Chu's posts lately. Bless him. And I'm excited at seeing B&S at Glarsters, although I'm not so sure how an audience of non-B&S fans will take to them. There had better be none of their low volume pranks or the Hawkwind fans will give them the motorbike treatment. I was interested by that B&S interview in the Standard that wor David posted, though I think it was churlish of Styrannn to admit that IWUTU is full of gibes about Isobel. Actually, it's really churlish in general to issue public gibes about your exes, and it invites the comment "well if they were so awful why did you go out with them?" Talking of exes, I saw that Royal Tennenbaums film, and yes, Gwynneth Paltrow does indeed look like a skeletal Isobel. I found the film slightly disappointing, but then I am jaded with life. Finally, it's all go for ATP. I think we should have one big monster hobby meetup - you know, Sinister, I-Love-Everything, & the Bowlie boards all together as one. And then we could have a huge ruck and kick those twunts on their heads. ARRRR. Fighting is much better than football. I think I'll go now. bless, DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tsong at xxx.edu Wed Apr 10 00:20:09 2002 From: tsong at xxx.edu (Tsong) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 19:20:09 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Dirty Vicar's Job Message-ID: <004501c1e01d$17a139c0$e64017ac@resnet.rutgers.edu> Is Dirty Vicar the yoda of Sinister? I don't know him that well, but he sure is wise. -Elsa +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Wed Apr 10 00:54:27 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:54:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: erm... Message-ID: Hi Kieran, I enjoyed reading the first few hundred words of your post but then got bogged down by all the words being so packed together. Sorry to be a pain, but any chance of paragraphs? I know this is a ridiculous request, but I've been wanting to ask everyone this for ages. Snr Chu writes in paras and looks how popular he is. It's because everyone makes it to the end of his posts. Anyway, "off topic", but just back from seeing The Vines at Dingwalls and they were spectacular. Really really really really really really really really really amazing. "Country Yard" was one of those moments when you just feel envigorated by music, like there's extra oxygen being pumped into your bloodstream with every chord change. I couldn't yell and clap enough when it ended. For those who've only heard the Supergrass-ish single, the other stuff is much much better: Big Star, Brian Wilson, Nirvana, Plush, etc, etc. They're playing tomorrow at ULU and I'm hoping against hope (always a bad bet, but never mind) that I can get a ticket. Can't wait for Glastonbury. Rod Stewart's meant to playing... Ian ---------- >From: "Kieran Devaney" >To: sinister at missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: Love of language, interest in character and sense of theatre. >Date: Tue, Apr 9, 2002, 9:18 pm > >Dear Sinister, > >Today I was reading ‘Careless Talk Costs Lives’ the music magazine that held >the interest of more than a few people here when it first came out, because >Stuart Murdoch was allegedly in it. Normally I shy away from the music >press entirely, or, more specifically, I shy away from buying the music >press entirely, since I’m often to be seen shiftily reading the review >sections of Q, Uncut, NME, The Wire and others in shops, without ever having >the intention of buying. In fact, in a move that screams ‘too much time on >your hands’ I sometimes read half the reviews that interest me from a copy >of Q in, say, HMV, before putting it back and nipping down to WH Smiths to >read the other half. In doing that, I get to read all the reviews I want >without loitering without intent in either shop. But to say that such >activities were motivated by having too much time on my hands would be >false, since usually when I do that, there are a thousand other, more >important things I should be doing. I’d like to say my aversion to the music >press is motivated by a political or artistic gripe – that the NME’s >traditional fare of hyping bands to the point where they inflate like shiny, >heart shaped helium filled balloons into premature rock ascendancy, and then >proleptically (Microsoft Word seems to think ‘proleptically’ isn’t a word, >but it has been proven wrong in the past), claim that they, the NME, never >really thought all that much of them in the first place. I’d like to say >that, and I do think that, to a degree. I’d also like to say that my >aversion stems from their penchant for guitar music make by pretty white >boys over all else has been detrimental to the growth of other musical >genres, at least in terms of sales, that their reviews and features are >based in fashion and sensationalism, rather than telling us something useful >about the band or record in question, that they are continually changing >their minds about who it’s ok to like and who it isn’t, that their tastes >are infinitely conservative until the ‘avant garde’ they so frequently >deride and sneer at, comes up with something they actually like, at which >point they take it on board like an old friend they’d known for years (e.g. >the new Jim O’Rourke record). I’d like to be able to say all of that, and I >do think that, to a degree, but my main reason for not buying any magazines >(though I read a few reviews online for free), is firmly cash based. That’s >right kids, it’s art vs. commerce, and commerce always wins (a bonus point >if you can name the reference). But I’ve digressed, as I inevitably do, I >didn’t actually buy this copy of ‘Careless Talk Costs Lives’ it was borrowed >to me by a friend some days ago, though lord knows why he bought it, he >doesn’t listen to any of the bands in it, which is probably why he hasn’t >asked for it back – it’s the one with the blurry, grainy photograph of the >Dirtbombs singer on the front anyway. And reading it made me remember why I >don’t dip into music magazines all that much for the most part – their >feature on said Dirtbombs was, for example, appalling in it’s sycophancy, I >thought, a sprawl of catch-all terms like ‘raw’ ‘visceral’ ‘fun’ and >‘essential’ even. Now don’t get me wrong, I happen to quite like The >Dirtbombs, I’ve even got their new album, I liked their live thing for John >Peel, but this feature was the kind of lazy dross that reminded me of when I >used to read the NME – the very fact that The Dirtbombs are getting radio >play now, them being a years old garage rock combo is a prime example, >perhaps, of just how much UK audiences are enamoured with The Strokes, The >White Stripes et al, how The Dirtbombs, who as I understand it have been >ploughing the same furrow for years, not worrying at all about success or >any of that, feel about suddenly being en vogue, suddenly being part of the >musical zeitgeist, was not addressed. Instead it was four or five tiresome >pages of the bands rock and roll excesses and how great they are. Pity. It >got worse though, as I read on, ‘Careless Talk Costs Lives’ thinks enough of >itself to frequently slag off rival publications, most frequently The NME >and The Wire, which annoyed me really – it called The NME ‘a mouthpiece for >authority’ and The Wire ‘pretentious’, both of which, I suppose, are fair >enough criticisms, perhaps not ones I myself would use because I think you >have to appreciate that both magazines are made for a certain demographic, >and with that in mind, they don’t do all that badly. It does sound a bit >silly though, coming from another music mag, especially one that, >content-wise, seems to sit between the two, featuring bands that are a bit >more leftfield than the ones that make the NME, but ignoring anything that >might be ‘jazz’ or ‘modern classical’ or ‘improvised’. And it also sounded a >bit silly when ‘Careless Talk ’ employed a style not that dissimilar to its >hated rivals, so we got some snotty NME fawning sensationalism in the >Dirtbombs article, coupled with some Q style this is what (dad)rock is all >about type stuff, as well as the classic ‘witty’ NME perfunctory put-down, I >believe chief careless talker Everett True reviews the new Lee ‘Scratch’ >Perry record simply with the word ‘whatever’. How fantastically punk rock of >him. But there was also the kind of snotty, Wire style pretension in lots of >the reviews, as well as the laborious, Wire style laborious, strained, >blokey type reviews in abundance. I wasn’t much impressed really. Another >qualm was their continual derision of Radiohead, but there wasn’t any >substance to it (they do it to a couple of other bands too, but Radiohead >came up the most times I think). I like Radiohead, but I certainly don’t >think they’re infallible, and I’m yet to see a serious piece on their >failings, glib put-downs just don’t cut it, surely a magazine that wants to >rise above the NME’s pettiness should be avoiding such witless quips, they >just aren’t going to convince anyone. Their dislike for Radiohead seemed to >be solely based on the fact that the band were successful, and again, surely >a magazine that wants to rise above the NME’s pettiness should be avoiding >the frankly stupid assertion that being in the charts = being crap. I think >the idea of the magazine is a return to the DIY aesthetics and ‘realness’ of >fanzines, but in reality it seemed to occupy a territory that has the worst >bits of fanzines (unexplained dislike for certain bands, fabulous praise for >others, sneering, hints that the writers think they’re the coolest people on >earth), combined with the worst bits of the bigger magazines. Not a fun read >at all really. I certainly wont be buying it in the future, not that I >bought it this time, but still > > >I wrote that a while ago, but neglected to send it, I think because it >contains too much negativity, and I thought I needed to balance it out with >something a bit more upbeat. The new edition of ‘Careless Talk ’ has since >come out and I believe it has the sprightly Conor Oberst, of Bright Eyes >fame on the cover. I hastily glanced through it yesterday in HMV, and had a >quick read of an email interview they did with Hefner, one or two things >struck me about the article, firstly, that the writer accused Hefner’s >competition of being “either too old (Pulp), or too shit (Belle and >Sebastian).” Now not only is this the kind of childish dig I was bemoaning >earlier, but this article is followed directly (on the same page even) with >a piece written by none other than Stuart Murdoch! Perhaps they aren’t all >that keen on Stuart’s writing and are trying to get him to quit, or perhaps >this is ‘Careless Talk’ at its fiery best, with diverse and even >contradictory opinions vying for space, a truly multi-faceted publication. >Whichever, putting the two articles together like that did strike me as >churlish, and if I were Stuart I might be a bit offended. The other, and >probably more important thing that struck me about the Hefner article was an >acute sense of déjà vu – I’m sure I’ve read it somewhere before on the net, >and I remembered that when (if?) I read it before; the interesting bit of >the article is Darren Hayman talking about his song writing technique. >Darren regards himself as a professional writer, you see, writing is his >job, and that his songs come from lots of hard work rather than flashes of >inspiration. This did disappoint me a bit, because it takes the magic away >from Hefner’s songs, we expect people we admire to be spontaneous and >brilliant all the time - as they are in whatever it is we admire them for >(perhaps this is what celebrities mean by the pressures of fame), and rarely >do we acknowledge the toil that has gone into their art. I always pictured >Darren, post coital, scribbling his grubby thoughts on the back of a taxi >card with a chewed biro, another paean to being unable to distinguish >between love and sex. Seeing the real truth in front of me - that he >probably spends more time sat in front of a piano, notebook in hand than he >does chatting up girls, was odd, we want our rock stars to live the dream >don’t we? And although if, prior to reading the article, I would’ve really >thought about it, I would have admitted to myself that a lot more work went >into Hefner songs than you’d think, having Darren himself admit it is like >him breaking the magicians code. Two more, similar images have entered my >head whilst I was thinking about all that, both from comedians incidentally, >the first is from me reading an article about Harry Hill, it might have been >an interview with his wife actually, and she was saying that he spends hours >and hours every day on his comedy, that he has books of the stuff, a whole >room full of books on comedy and comedians. And though I’d always thought >that there was a sort of deliberateness to Harry Hill’s stuff, seeing it put >like that somehow makes his comedy less ‘funny’ because half the reason we >enjoy stuff like that is that it seems spontaneous. The other thing I was >thinking about was a TV thing I saw, which had Paul Whitehouse (of Fast Show >fame), and he was saying that he hardly ever laughs at comedy anymore, since >he became a comedy writer, that sometimes he’ll see things and he’ll be able >to say “Yeah, that’s funny.” In a detracted sort of way, but comedy no >longer affects him as it used to. I found this terribly sad, that the thing >he loves has been changed because of his knowledge of the process involved >in creating it – because he is so involved with this process, he is no >longer able to fully enjoy the end product as much, or in the same way. I >found this terribly sad, and I believe it was Oscar Wilde who wrote: “Yet >each man kills the thing he loves.” And how true that is. But Darren Hayman, >Harry Hill and Paul Whitehouse must have all thought, naively as I do that >genius is not, to drag out the old cliché, 99% perspiration and 1% >inspiration, but something more ethereal, that the universal truths that art >strives for must be plucked from the air, rather than diligently laboured >over. > >God, that’s depressing isn’t it? I promised something more upbeat didn’t I? >Well that comes in the form of all singing, all dancing, guitar jousting >folk hipsters Belle and Sebastian, who I saw in London whenever it was, >about this time last week. Lots of people have written well about the gig, >so I wont go on about it too much, except to say that it was great and >everything despite a few songs not coming off too well, blah blah blah. I >was quite surprised though, when I got inside the venue, that it had been >described, on more than one occasion as ‘soulless’ since it actually wasn’t >too bad, certainly a vast improvement on the bland, squat Birmingham version >of the academy. On the way there I met a medical student called Dave who was >a bit lost like me, and once we got inside we shouted over the records that >were playing enough for me to learn that he didn’t recognise records by >Hefner, The Velvet Underground, The Magnetic Fields or some others who I’ve >forgotten – he didn’t know all that much about music, which left me with >very little to talk to him about, he didn’t recognise ‘String Bean Jean’ or >the Only Ones’ song at the end either, nice guy though. I completely forgot >to ask him if he was on the list though, I doubt it, since he completely >forgot to ask me either. I had a lovely time anyway, and cheers to Hannah >again for letting me stay at her gaff (I quite like the word ‘gaff’). > >I’ll be off then >- Kieran > >p.s. Kudos to whoever is taking Sinister’s collective meanderings and >relaying them back to us in the form of haikus, clever that, very Warholian. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Wed Apr 10 01:03:28 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 01:03:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: well Message-ID: Hi Kieran, I enjoyed reading the first few hundred words of your post but then got bogged down by all the words being so packed together. Sorry to be a pain, but any chance of paragraphs? I've been wanting to ask everyone this for ages. Snr Chu writes in paras and looks how popular he is. It's because everyone makes it to the end of his posts. Anyway, but just back from seeing The Vines at Dingwalls and they were spectacular. Really really really really really really really really really amazing. "Country Yard" was one of those moments when you just feel envigorated by music, like there's extra oxygen being pumped into your bloodstream with every chord change. I couldn't yell and clap enough when it ended. For those who've only heard the Supergrass-ish single, the other stuff is much much better: Big Star, Brian Wilson, Nirvana, Plush, etc, etc. They're playing tomorrow at ULU and I'm hoping against hope (always a bad bet, but never mind) that I can get a ticket. Can't wait for Glastonbury. Rod Stewart's meant to playing... Ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Apr 10 09:26:55 2002 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:26:55 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Careless Tour Costs Lights Message-ID: <001801c1e069$94c65ba0$4c6c253e@pjmillerwanadoo> Thanks for all the Reporting Back. Nice to see that B&S are still playing too quietly. This practice has been defending in the past because, "for fuck's sake, there are people playing triangles, for fuck's sake!" I was hoping that this time round they'd have replaced the triangles with a huge gong, like my favourite group, Led Zeppelin. But nothing could have prepared me for their replacement by an entire steel band. Or perhaps it was an attempt to please community elders in Brixton. I've been listening to the 1997 B&S performance in Barcelona. It certainly brings back some great memories. In fact the memories are better than I remember it. There's a looseness, innocence and joie de vivre which has all but been extinguished in recent releases. It's certainly revived my interest. So thanks, Big Bootlegger. The artwork for TORI SPELLING reminds me of Strawberry Switchblade, which reminds me of Young and Foolish, which reminds me of The Duke, which reminds me of Life Without Buildings, which reminds me that WE ARE DOOMED TO SPEND ETERNITY TOGETHER even if we unsubscribe. No wonder nobody wants to play for ILM. I am looking forward to Neil punching that chap's lights out. I'm surprised anyone even dares to go backstage. I suppose you've all discussed the new Monica Queen LP and Looper's appearance on the Vanilla Sky soundtrack to death, so I won't say anything. Here endeth the most artistically valid comeback since Echo and the Bunnymen got Liam Gallagher to do backing vocals. Sister Disco +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marisa_privitera at xxx.com Wed Apr 10 19:31:03 2002 From: marisa_privitera at xxx.com (Marisa Privitera) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: looking for tickets... Message-ID: <20020410183103.28789.qmail@web14007.mail.yahoo.com> Mark wrote: A PLEA: Does anyone have a spare standing ticket for B&S's 2nd night at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York that they could sell me? Not that any of us have disposable incomes (or else we'd all be on an Enya list somewhere and out of touch....) but I noticed a bunch of tickets for sale on ebay. Its good to know that if you really want to score a B&S ticket you can, but dear God, why such inflation! Some of the prices are up to $300 for a pair. -marisa p.s. no offense to any Enya fans. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Wed Apr 10 18:39:56 2002 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:39:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: NYC gig-goers? Message-ID: <20020410173956.5513.qmail@web10408.mail.yahoo.com> Okay, here I go again. A PLEA: Does anyone have a spare standing ticket for B&S's 2nd night at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York that they could sell me? I managed to track one down for the May 5th show (big props and favours to my sterling Sinister saviour Sarah), but I'm getting a bit worried about flying 3,000 miles and having to miss muh favourite band! (did that sound suitably pathetic?) Anyway, so, if you do have a spare and could help me out, I'd be incredibly grateful - email me off list and make my day :-) I *know* this is a bit spammy, but I promise that within 24 hours I'll have written a post worth reading* Mark xxx *on a completely different mailing list, probably - what can you do? huh? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather_boa at xxx.com Wed Apr 10 21:59:29 2002 From: feather_boa at xxx.com (Feather Boa) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 21:59:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the problem with kids today is that they're always thinking 'bout getting laid Message-ID: hey hey sinisters, how is everyone today? i am fantastic - wait, that came out all wrong :) it's been a very exciting past week-ish. mostly of course last wednesday, when first of all we had a picnic (sorry to everyone if we were being a bit insular - but we hadn't seen each other in *ages*) , then we all came back to my house and the boy Asm (currently skiing for the first time since he fell down a mountain last year) played fox in the snow on our crappy little piano. and got a bit stressed about whether we were going to be late and not get a good position. fortunately we did, right in front of stevie. so that was pretty cool. there was a gig. it was nice i liked it. then as has been mentioned Sam went back stage *rah*. i meanwhile bought the new careless talk costs lives (i like it), and a jet tours mug, and a pack of postcards. then Jo, and Migmk and mr Stuart H all came along and stayed at mine. the next day we shopped 'til we all but dropped, and made our way to the albert memorial to watch the footy. i made Stuart H give a running commentary as we watched, which was most entertaining, as fairly often people's names were replaced with "blue t-shirt", "charlatans t-shirt" and even "red shoes". it was funny to me. i had a cider ice lolly. my camera broke *curses*, but at least it was only a boots disposable one. as for simon price slagging b&s fans off, let me remind you that this guy is an overweight manics fan who wears his hair in two *horns* for heaven's sake. a man who gave nicky wire's brother's play an amazing review (this was a play that even i nearly walked out of and i'm a manics fan *and* one of my friends was in it) because he's such a groupie. and there are rumours i can't tell you about him and manics fans who haven't reached their 16th birthdays (they involve cream cakes). there's been a lot of shit going down here, but i can't tell you all, because.... i'm in the mafia. well, not really... but next time you middle of nowhere type folks start complaining about how you've never met anyone off the list, just remember that it's more difficult moaning on at 1595 people you don't know and 5 people you do, than 1600 people you don't know. pip pip, FB (or feather tara as Archel called me, i like that muchly) X _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From s_gazzetti at xxx.ar Wed Apr 10 23:45:58 2002 From: s_gazzetti at xxx.ar (=?iso-8859-1?q?sgazzetti?=) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:45:58 -0300 (ART) Subject: Sinister: Point-counterpoint-countercounterpoint: Rimini Message-ID: <20020410224558.51713.qmail@web14408.mail.yahoo.com> Point: This is now billionth-hand news, but I am finally able to post and so I must say that, as reported by Idleberry and so many others, the Usher Hall gig was nice. That is understatement. Just as nice (also understatement) was the meet-up ahead of time. It was my second B&S “picnic” (“quotes” because most “picnics” don’t usually take place inside hundreds and hundreds of “pubs” or fail to include “durians”) but it was my first picnic-AND-gig suite, so it was all especially fabulous. I especially enjoyed my brief chats with everyone who was so nice as to not mock my accent TOO much: in particular, Sweetie, Will, Andy, Idles and Jeremy, briefly, and Gordon, a bit more extensively. I made up for the little time I spent with Jeremy by meeting up to see Sodastream with him and his crowd in London last Saturday, and that was great, too, though it was an early evening as I had to fly out the next morning, which I did. I first heard “Waking Up To Us” in Usher Hall, although I did buy the disc in Edinburgh, finally, it not being widely available in The Former Yugoslavia, but I didn’t really get the words until driving down the M1 towards London last Friday. I am struck not only by how jaded the lyrics are, but by how accurate. This song basically describes my current relationship, yet rather than making me cry, it gives me strength. Okay, not very much, but still. The “we’re a disaster part”, like it’s a sudden revelation, is especially meaningful to me. In my case, the disaster is not helped by 10,000 km of distance. Too much information. And by the way, I love my car, too. Counterpoint: After ten days in the UK, returning to work is hell. Tempting it is to give details, but couldn’t you all (those who are working, anyway) say the same? Forget it. All is grey. And yet Counter-counter-point: The threat of being deported has receded lo unto the horizon, if not beyond! My residence visa for Slovenia has been approved, and I’ve been given Friday off to fetch it, in Trieste, about an hour away. Not coincidentally (okay, a little coincidentally, I suppose, but it’s a damn fine coincidentality), I have a ticket to see B&S play in Rimini, a few hours further down the Adriatic coast, this Saturday night. So I get to lie in a bit Friday, leave the country again, get legal, have a lovely drive down the coast and a long weekend, AND see our favorite band, all at once. Life is good. At least until Monday. Is anyone who has read this far going to the gig in Rimini? Please please please per piacere email me. We can have a little grappa-based picnic. Life can only get better. Cheers, and thanks again to all who made my UK jaunt so memorable and twee-- JDS Conectate a Internet GRATIS con Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com Thu Apr 11 05:06:14 2002 From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew Churchman) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 21:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Boston Message-ID: <20020411040614.22910.qmail@web12304.mail.yahoo.com> I might be up for stoping by a picnic in the Commons in the afternoon, though I always feel out of place walking up into downtown Boston. It's high class up there and kids go to real colleges. -- andrew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Thu Apr 11 05:11:49 2002 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 23:11:49 -0500 Subject: Sinister: this is the definition of my life Message-ID: <6882F61EA500C564F857B7912733A33A@chinacat81.wildmail.com> i went down to the art museum for history class today. one thing i'd been enjoying about not being an art major was that i no longer had to write exhaustive essays about paintings i didn't even like. unfortunately, my university encourages students to become "well- rounded individuals," and while i might be rounded off by a nice botany study or a chemistry experiment, it seems that the history professor feels we could all do with a nice hearty dose of modern art. i have to write a paper about world war-era art in a historical context, which might not be as difficult as i'd imagined. i did seem to have an advantage, at least directionally, over most of my classmates, who were either wandering around the medieval galleries or gaping at the warhols, all quite nice but irrelevant to the assignment at hand. after taking a few pages of notes, i used my finely-honed art museum navigation skills to help a couple find the german expressionists, then took an extracurricular excursion to american neo-expressionism and twentieth century design. i wandered through room after room of sex and politics and ultra- mod outboard motors, following a booming echo to a bill viola piece: a neatly made double bed, dark under a giant screen flashing what looked like an open-heart surgery gone terribly wrong. it didn't do much for me, so i strolled over to examine a nice painting of what happens when you spill paint. two elderly women, the sorts who hold hands out of necessity rather than affection, were shuffling along, following the rhythmic heartbeat to the dark little room. i watched out the corner of my eye as the slightly sturdier of the two slowly stretched her neck, peering timidly around the partition to see what was making that terrible noise... "good god, shirley!" her head retracted with surprising speed, like the hand of a child who has touched a hot stove. "don't even peek at that!" but surely shirley had to have a look. she stepped into the doorway, gazing with a sort of fixed admiration at the great gory spectacle pulsing overhead. i stared at the two of them there, the one centered firmly before the door, the other tugging at her hand, shaking her powdery head, powder flying everywhere, hovering like a swarm of minute lavender-scented insects in the crystal blue sunlight reflecting off the lake. shirley's lips were parted slightly, so that she looked as if she might laugh, cry, or croak at any moment. the other just kept tugging, whining, surely you'd rather go see the stained glass now, shirley. surely this isn't art. shirley. i giggled and tried to see if there was a nice cursive "L" on her sweater (this is milwaukee, after all) but i couldn't tell. it was another beautiful day, so i skipped out a bit early and went down to the marina, carefully pressing down my skirt in the cool lake breeze and stepping over goose cigars. ahem. these early spring days are the best days that happen until early autumn, because people are so appreciative. they smile, flying their kites, pushing their shopping carts, sitting on their porches smoking cheap cigars and sipping beer out of dewy silver cans. it's like someone stood up at town hall and said "winter's over, let's have a picnic" and everyone agreed. a whistling garbage collector, a geriatric stone-skipping contest, a laughing russian girl whose pen won't write, muddy water blues in a room that's no longer the color of split-pea soup, but of comical baby poop or a charmingly hideous spring sweater. you crack open a window, spark up a lucky strike, and suddenly feel that things are okay. kirsten http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Thu Apr 11 10:27:37 2002 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:27:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: = Blank Message-ID: <000801c1e13b$204caae0$64c87ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, Not much for me to say, so we'll move swiftly on to the Linking Part (ho ho): There's a review (not much difference from what's been said previously) of the Brixton gig here at xfm: http://www.xfm.co.uk/webClient?guid=19635&site=xfm&rs=xfm Gracias a Maria, Segundosdeluz' Fairy Godmother, for this review of our heroes in Lille: http://www.popnews.com/popnews/bsconcert/ . Salivate over Vicar In A Tutu & Sunday Morning, bootleg fans. Are you going to Report Back on the Paris show, Elena or Chris? Welcome back Peter, & thanks for reminding us of Looper. Their own web presence remains desperately outdated & rigourously limited to selling copies of the Thoughts Of Captain Peacock, but there's talk over at Merge of a new album: info & samples here: http://www.mute.com/advance/looper.html & someone on una otra lista sent in this info about a single to be released soon: "Looper, el grupo de Stuart David de Belle & Sebastian, Karn David y Ronnie Black, editan nuevo single, "The Snare", en Mute el 13 de mayo. El álbum, del mismo título, se publicará el día 27. Es el tercer disco del grupo, y el primero en Mute (antes estaban en Jeepster). El single incluirá nuevos temas ("Peacock's Tail", "Peacock's Appeal" en el cd, y "The Arrow" y una demo de "Peacock Jonson" en el 7". " BTW Senor Miller, some at least of Belle And Sebastian are desperate to cover your favourite band. Mick trotted out the bassline to Dazed And Confused again at the Edinburgh gig. Steve also played the intro to a 60's number there a couple of times. I though it was Fleetwood Mac's Green Manalishi but it isn't - does anyone know what it really was? Monica Queen played most of her new lp before the Edinburgh gig. She sounded like Emmylou Harris (& so did some of the songs) Her mate on guitar increasingly metamorphosed into someone else, so much so that I was just about to shout out for Cortez The Killer before they sadly left the stage. (As another aside, Neil Young's new album isn't anything like as big a disappointment as I dreaded it being: I actually like most of the songs & have played it several times. And still wish to again.) Another question, to anyone who has seen the film "Tory Spelling": is there anything in it that would have inspired Sru-Anne to think of an acupuncture theme for the soundtrack album cover?. Blatant begging/list abuse (sorry ListMums - beat me to within an inch of my life next time I see you, please). Did anyone get a good recording of lovely Australian chaps Sodastream on their recent UK (or Italian) tour? If so, please get in touch. A mutually beneficial trade could result. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Thu Apr 11 13:19:31 2002 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:19:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: All content, all the time... Message-ID: Just a quick one, ex-listee (i think) Alex Tobin has an interview with Mick on KindaMuzik, with some nice arms of sex photos from rotterdam: http://www.kindamuzik.net/q_and_a/article.shtml?id=1452 sample quotes: "it's hard to avoid slight laddish elements" (refering to the band, not to groups of neds coming to beat them up) "Well, it was good. Everyone enjoyed it, and the end results eventually were OK. It took us a while to get the end result, and we didn't actually get to the end result with him. So I guess there wasn't satisfaction from that point of view, because Stuart had to remix the whole thing three or four times. It was a good experience, but I don't think he's right as a producer for the next album." (on working with mike hurst, I think Mick was taken over by the spirits of Stadtler and Waldorf...) and my favourite bit: Your fan base is very, very close to the goings-on of the band. Can it be a bother at times, having people follow the group so closely? "I never get hassled in a sinister way. People are generally pretty friendly." do you see, "sinister", do you? i'm not sure if it's mick or alex having the in-joke here... xoxo CarsmileSteve PS Kirsten, did you not think that the old ladies in the gallery might have been ART also... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Thu Apr 11 15:59:51 2002 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:59:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: No, but I've got a dark brown overcoat Message-ID: JOHNNY BALLS Well done, David Moore for posting that article. Quite the most revealing thing I�ve read since �Johnny Balls Reveals His Balls� an, erm, educational pamphlet I once read. The review in the Indy made it sound as if the gig was almost empty. I don�t suppose Stuart would mind, though - it means less tidying up afterwards. I WON�T PLAY ANOTHER HEAVYWEIGHT, I WON�T PLAY ANOTHER BIG JOHN SHAFT Mr Moore also asked; >Another question, to anyone who has seen the film "Tory Spelling": is there >anything in it >that would have inspired Sru-Anne to think of an >acupuncture theme for the soundtrack >album cover? Not that I can remember. However, I have been listening to my copy of Big John Shaft, which has been officially endorsed by Jeepster as �a bit ropey�, and the lyrics do make more sense in context. It�ll work well as the last song on the album. I won�t have a go at listing the lyrics here, because a lot of them are drowned in talk and dancing, but it won�t be long now anyway, will it? <> Yeah. Just one letter out, har har! FORESKIN <> I once read that Rumplestiltskin actually means Wrinkled Foreskin in olde english. So when he story was written it was a bit of a joke that he was ugly and smelly and looked like a wrinkled foreskin. Not that this has anything to do with Ailsa, of course, let me hasten to add. BERTIE BASSETT We spent our lunchtime talking about Bassett�s Liquorice Allsorts. I went out and bought a box. Here�s my definitive ranking: 1. The pink or blue aniseed ones, that look like little sequined hat boxes 2. The pink or yellow coconut ones, that look a bit like an octopuses� eyes 3. The chocolate layered ones 4. The regular layered ones 5. The liquorice torpedoes, or comfits - they look like granny�s medicine 6. The black and white ones, that look like Felix the Cat�s fingers 7. Bertie sodding Basset I ate a whole box of them and now i feel ill. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Thu Apr 11 17:50:55 2002 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 17:50:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: MILAN - CHANGE OF VENUE Message-ID: <002b01c1e179$0dae3e60$cd04fd3e@neil> The gig in Milan on April 16th will now be held at ALCATRAZ, rather than Propaganda. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilska at xxx.com Thu Apr 11 18:52:32 2002 From: wilska at xxx.com (Emily Wilska) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:52:32 -0700 Subject: Sinister: public service: baseball metaphors clarified Message-ID: <423A883EB9A36B41AEDEDB866A66A4A90BC783@svc-msg-04.northamerica.corp.microsoft.com> Hullo, dears. First off, although I'm sure someone will have beat me to the punch by the time this reaches you, I'd like to do my duty as an American and answer Madeleine's question about using baseball scoring to indicate sexual progress. Below, a handy guide. You can even print it out for future reference! First base= kissing (generally with tongue, if I recall correctly) Second base= hands up shirt Third base= hands down pants and/or trousers (because, really, it's both) Home run= Going All the Way (there's no fourth base) I hope this proves useful. I wish I had some interesting background or insight as to how all of this came to be in the first place, but I leave that up to one of my fellow countrypeople. While I'm envious of everyone who has gone or will go to see B&S (although I saw them here in SF last September and therefore can't whinge too much), I'm particularly envious of JDS, whose concertgoing also entails significant European travel. Wouldn't *I* like to be puttering about in the UK and Italy, pausing only long enough to attend gigs? (Rhetorical question; I would indeed.) I suppose I shall content myself with a trip to Phoenix this weekend, which, while wildly Not the Same Thing, will at least allow me to fetch myself something of a tan. Priorities. The last gig I saw was the New Pornographers last month as part of Noise Pop. It was fantastic, and made me love Canadians even more than I do already. You, there--go check out tNP right now. I can almost promise you won't be sorry. http://www.thenewpornographers.com/ So, inspired by (or totally copying, depending on your perspective) the bf's recent foray into this realm, I've given in and have created a little blog-type thing. I'm sure you have many, many more important things to do, but in one of those late-night moments in which you find yourself willing to waste time on absolutely anything, perhaps you'd like to investigate http://divert.blogspot.com. Or perhaps not. I've probably bored Chu enough by this point, so I'll bid you adieu and a bientot. xo Emily +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ubootscooby6 at xxx.com Fri Apr 12 10:10:33 2002 From: ubootscooby6 at xxx.com (scooby doo) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:10:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: im not a pheasant plucker ,im the pheasant pluckers daughter..... Message-ID: thank u dirty vicar.... its the thoughts that count scooby x _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From christopherdjohnson at xxx.com Fri Apr 12 12:37:48 2002 From: christopherdjohnson at xxx.com (Christopher Johnson) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:37:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: on novel writing, the joys of waldo and that gig Message-ID: Hi guys, not that i'm a frequent poster or anything but I thought i'd been lurking in the shadows a little too long. Preperations are continuing for my assult on California. Thanks to everyone who mailed me about UCSB and the surrounding area, i can't wait for the exchange and its been great hearing of all the cool stuff you guys have been filling me in on. I do hope there'll be a picnic sometime while i'm over. (To anyone puzzled i've been lucky enough to get on an exchange to carry out a year of my history degree in Santa Barbara. How i'll cope leaving the sunny climes of south west scotland! if you live in the area please do introduce yourself) I thought the edinburgh gig was pretty special. The band seemed really way more focused and serious than they had been the previous times i saw them but it was still really fun. Some of the set lists coming in from elsewhere in Europe sound amazing though. has anyone on the list gone to the extreme of following the entire tour? That would be awesome. It would be cool to hear what was the best, surrealist, hippest etc. moments of the tour. I wonder if enough crazy stories will materialize over time for the tour to take on the same sort of mythical status early rolling stones tours had, or if theres been a show shambolic enough to rival Joy Division at Preston. I was assigned to do a report of the Usher hall gig for my student newspaper but its really difficult. I guess i should try to be objective but i've really no idea what a B&S show must mean to someone who casually likes them. i'm afraid any report i do come up with would read like a teenebopper at a smash hits tour. Also while i'm thinking too, thanks to Michael and Lindsey (I think) who were so good as to share a taxi ride with me to the gig from Waverly station. I'd like to nominate them for sinister members of the month, it was really good of you cheers. On Michael's recommendation i got the Monica Queen album which is just perfect for lying in bed reading before sleep. I'm currently reading Gutterson's short story collection "The counrty ahead of us, the country behind" or whatever. Its really good but so similar to Raymond Carver its a little uncanny. I was trying to work out what length the average novel was with my flatmate and he reckoned about 40,000 words. So should this be the case, assuming you had enough prolific days to draft and ammend 1000 words a day, it would only take 40 days to write one. So theres a challenge for anyone with an idea. Best one wins a big doughnut or bun of your choice! What actually consititutes a cake by the way? being a model of domesticity i recieved a 20 pence off cakes voucher with my tesco clubcard. So i went to the general cake area and bought some smartie cookies and caramel shortcake and when i got to the till it wouldn't accept the coupon. How literaly am i expected to take these vouchers? alright cookies are debatable but caramel shortCAKE? weird eh? moving on... So on hearing Rolling Stone's announcement that the Velvet's White Light/white heat was the coolest album ever i naturally had to attain it. not to dissapointed either, what a legend Waldo is. Here is a man who encapsulates all those naive qualities of young romance and dying for the cause. A martyr for a better cause you'll be hard pressed to find and i would dearly like to see some greater recognition of his efforts. Maybe we should shut all business and cease working for a morning to honour this. I hope i'm not mortally offending anyone with these queen mother references but when tesco shut its doors the other morning i was a little suprised. And as a lecturer pointed out it did beg the question what were republicans with bare cupboards meant to do? Your guess is as good as mine. well work beckons, so i'll be off. best wishes Christopher _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Fri Apr 12 13:27:33 2002 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:27:33 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: Sinister: There's Chu Much Love Message-ID: i always get terribly bored on fridays 'waiting for something to start' as it were. that is no excuse for what follows, but i hope you will forgive me for my ennui... as the ken chu craze reaches critical mass: There's Chu Much Love We could hang about and chat to #sinister We've been hanging out here waiting for some decent smut Chu thinks we're faultless to a tee Our manners puntastic and twee But underneath we're not as good as Chu. He could dance all night at Tigermilking But we know he'd rather fly himself across the ocean He feels like DDR and puns Where everyone knows him, and where he Can cause a cult just by the way he looks. And when he comes to flirt When he is looking up our skirts Just hope that Chu is on your side my dear. But it's best to be a Girl With Glasses With a can of Red Bull staring at the screen for hours It's safe to swing your cock around Can't hide our feelings from Chu now There's Chu much love to go around these days. Chu says he's fond of Isobel It's not his fault but we're in hell We're cardie-wearing and in love with CHU! and let that be an end to it! (as if.) luv archel xxx ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kersy83 at xxx.com Fri Apr 12 12:00:26 2002 From: kersy83 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Kerstin=20Hammes?=) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:00:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Sinister: I'm back, first post, no one cares In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020412110026.34955.qmail@web10706.mail.yahoo.com> ugh, just finished a 350-word dictation about office furniture in Berlin...that makes you wonder why you do the things you do, really !! still I don't understand my secret fascination with all those cool Paternoster elevators - I mean, they are really dangerous, aren't they ? Anyway. Let's get to topic: 1) B&S - I'm going to Haldern festival on 10th August probably where the lovely band of lovely bands alongside with Pulp is going to play and I was wondering - is anyone else already planning to go there and see them ? If you don't want to go on your own (as I'm assuming you all have friends that are as un-reliable as mine and disappear as soon as I say "Belle..") I could see what I can do to fill my gorgeous car (yes, I love my car though it stands for a lot of rubbish, it seems). 2) me. making it short. I'm Kerstin. I used to be logged on with a different email address but mostly lurking until it all got too much for me and now I'm promising to conduct myself a bit better. so far to that, quite a bit of content for a first post from Kerstin, it was worth a try. AND NOW BACK TO WORK love Kerstin __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Fri Apr 12 13:40:44 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:40:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: storytelling Message-ID: Hello all. I was lucky enough to get a copy of "Storytelling" this morning and it's wonderful, really really great. If you're interested I've done a track by track of first impressions on the website for the club night - http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk - it's well worth the wait. And while I'm on, I know Katrina mentioned it a few weeks ago, but the first and possibly only night of my club night How Does It Feel To Be Loved? is just under two weeks away, and it would be fantastic if you could come along and it make it all make sense. The playlist will be The Smiths * The Supremes * The Go-Betweens * Dusty Springfield * Belle & Sebastian * Tammi Terrell * Aztec Camera * The Ronettes * Orange Juice * Beach Boys * The Temptations * Velvet Underground * Felt * The Shangri-Las * (early) Primal Scream * Otis Redding * The Field Mice * Magnetic Fields * Dexys Midnight Runners * The Four Tops * Dolly Parton * The Orchids * Simon & Garfunkel It's on Thursday, April 25th, Buffalo Bars, underneath The Famous Cock pub, outside Highbury & Islington tube 9pm-2am, beer £1.50 until midnight, £3 adm Sorry if this is list abuse in any fashion. Nearly the weekend and all is well with the world. x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pktwo at xxx.de Fri Apr 12 14:48:32 2002 From: pktwo at xxx.de (pktwo at xxx.de) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:48:32 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Haldern Festival Message-ID: <200204121348.g3CDmWv29047@mailgate5.cinetic.de> Hello, I would love to go to see B & S at Haldern Festival but as I am only 14 my parents don't allow me to go. Where did you hear that Pulp would play at Haldern, too??There are a lot of great bands playing but I've not heard of Pulp yet. By the way, there's a B&S gig on www.justconcerts.com you can listen to.It's from Vancouver.On the site there's also a very good Sigur Rós concert.Have a look. Paul ________________________________________________________________ Keine verlorenen Lotto-Quittungen, keine vergessenen Gewinne mehr! Beim WEB.DE Lottoservice: http://tippen2.web.de/?x=13 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Aton.Vdwae at xxx.be Fri Apr 12 15:09:31 2002 From: Aton.Vdwae at xxx.be (Aton) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:09:31 +0200 Subject: Sinister: More reporting back of gigs: Brussels & Lille Message-ID: <1qndbu0sgmvfm85scukkbo3vfnm5b7s085@4ax.com> There has indeed been a lot of reporting back of gigs lately, and I will continue this trend, though - to be honest - I'm only writing this so that the people I met at the Brussels and Lille gigs have my e-mail address. In fact, I would much rather leave this post blank, but that would probably be stretching the 15 minutes rule. Even for a slow typist like me. Until about a week ago, I had no idea there was such a thing as a Belgian chapter of Sinister. Now I do, and I must say I'm happy to have met them. First of all, there was the picnic. Which was grate (do people still use that?). In attendance were (in no particular order): - the lovely Annie (thanks for everything) - a Brazilian couple who I think were called Marcio and Marcia - wee Rocio (did I spell that right?) - Wen (who for some reason insisted that I would post to the list) - picnic mummy Jule - and of course the one and only Strawberry Boy I was late. Partly because I'm not very punctual, but mostly because I was in no rush to get there, seeing as I'm usually not much good at social occasions where I don't know anyone. As it turned out, I shouldn't have worried. I know it's something of a cliché round these parts, but sinisterines probably *are* the nicest people you could ever meet. On to the gigs then... I would say they have earned a place in my all-time Top 5 favourite gigs list. Perhaps even a place each, with Lille just beating Brussels (they played "If You're Feeling Sinister" in Lille, plus I had a better view). But they were both pretty special. Brussels was special because it was my first B&S gig. Lille was special because it was a real spur of the moment thing and because going there nearly cost me my job. But I had had such a brilliant time in Brussels that Rocio, Annie and Olivier didn't have to try very hard to persuade me to join them in Lille the next day. I won't try to recreate separate set lists for both nights, but the songs I remember hearing are (again in no particular order): Fuck this Shit There's too much love Waking up to us String Bean Jean The wrong girl Don't leave the light on baby The Boy with the Arab Strap My wandering days are over The Model Wandering alone The magic of a kind word Fox in the snow Seeing other people Dog on wheels Is it wicked not to care Dirty Dream #2 Lazy Line Painter Jane A Century of Fakers If you're feeling sinister In Brussels the encore was "Judy and the Dream of Horses" and a girl from the audience sang an impressive version of Gershwin's "Summertime" (with Bill Wells on piano). There was no encore in Lille, but they did cover the Velvet Underground's "Sunday Morning" (sung by Stevie) and Isobel had a go at a Serge Gainsbourg song (not a clue what that one was called though). Already looking forward to Glastonbury... Bye, Aton. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From theboywiththemiddleeasternstrap at xxx.uk Fri Apr 12 15:30:09 2002 From: theboywiththemiddleeasternstrap at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Thomas=20Henderson?=) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:30:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20020412143009.43691.qmail@web20605.mail.yahoo.com> hello, hey, well this is my firstest ever post so it'll be entirely useless and not the kind of thing you'd want your first post to be like, not the kind of thing you would remember and tell your hipster children about. i don't have anything really new and that interesting to say, nothing like um, "richie colburn has won the first ever international gurning contest" or "stevie jackson has given birth to the son of an alien" that would be exciting but wholey false although it may appear in the sunday sport this weekend now, or the national enquirer. so what i've been doing recently (like your all that interested) i bought tigermilk on monday, and well that's my most exciting b&s type news, it's a lovely record and i bought it it's own felt record brush, it's a really pretty piece of vynil or is that vinyl, mmmm......, my spelling is awful, not like that harry potter which brings me to current puns (like it?) well um, ken chu very much for the cadbury's roses, everybody was ken chu fightin' (hoo-ha!) oh well i didn't say they were good..... what is a pun? (about 16 ounces?) see they get worse! re: sinister edinburgh: the picnic was lovely (although totally unorthodox) so big hiya to everyone that was there. the gig was orgasm-medo-tastic. we'd like to thank the complete lack of security in the usher hall for being able to get our vodka-ribena in completely unchallenged, oh and one of the security people at the stage was the only person to laugh when i heckled life without credibility/talent/sports-bra/whatever so that was good, it didn't make me feel like a total moron. oh did anyone see the dog at the beginning of the show? it was at the left-hand side of the stage it made julie go all gooey inside, she loves dogs (and her car) well i hope you don't mind me wasting five minutes of your time. byee, thomas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi_trenzano at xxx.es Wed Apr 10 18:36:52 2002 From: jordi_trenzano at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:36:52 +0200 Subject: Sinister: fancy a sunbath ? Message-ID: <006f01c1e0b6$502ed240$7ca999c1@teleline.es> Hello kids: Even tough we suspected it for months, the Benicassim festival press conference was held yesterday, and announced that B&S are playing there again. This time on the FOOOCKIN BIG STAGE. Rest of the line-up features The Cure (oooohhh), Suede, Radiohead, Chemical Brothers, Paul Weller.....the usual crap. Remember: august 2/3/4. Sun. Beach. A short post, as Dimitra likes mine :) Jordiet +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elf-angel at xxx.com Fri Apr 12 13:52:15 2002 From: elf-angel at xxx.com (Bron) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:52:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: nice day for a pulk Message-ID: okay so i've mixed a little radiohead in with my b&s for the subject title... is that a crime? oh well, i've done it. ********** have you ever forgotten yourself before? like, oops! well shiot, i knew i left her (him) somewhere around here...now if only i could remember what she (he) looks like so i can find her (him)... dammit. alright, well i'm sure she'll (he'll) show up sometime... the loud perversity with which i exclaimed how much i lovel myself has gotten me all twisted up and then it's like, well sure i can't get enough of how cool it is to be me and then while warped in my inner distraction i found the most contorted-barely-strummin-being i've ever dared to set eyes on...and then she whispered somethin in my ear incomprehensible.....and then she disappeared. yeah that would have been my withered ego that i chose to falsify for a healthier one of sorts for my own benefit. i wonder what it is i loved so much? and if any of what i assumed was inside of me really ever existed in the first place... it's like all those doors let me in and out, but never opened. it's like i was one of those kids meltin in the doorway but just had to keep the gang together... ya know? and now it's kinda like... here i go! like, here is this road. there's some crap around the edges to try and trip me up, but if i just focus on this road, well then... i can start walkin down it and not worry about all the cars zoomin 80 miles per hour past my slowly-thinning body... and i'll eventually make out the road signs and i'll just keep walkin and maybe just maybe one day, i'll figure out where i am. it's just as if a person were to stay inside a building all day they'd never know where the building really was in relation to other buildings or even what part of the city they were in... it's like, maybe one day i'll remember where i am, and more importantly, who i am, and why i am who i am, and where to go next. *********** somebody tell me if figuring out inner conflicts and then posting them is list abuse. if it is, i'll stop. peace and lighter warmer days to come to you sinister, ----your mountain mama sweetheart X ***Sometimes you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right*** ---Jerry. http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kersy83 at xxx.com Fri Apr 12 21:05:11 2002 From: kersy83 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Kerstin=20Hammes?=) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:05:11 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Sinister: off to party... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020412200511.76966.qmail@web10702.mail.yahoo.com> ...60 km away in a club. I'm wearing a skirt which is actually very inappropriate for my overweight body and I actually wanted to wear a B&S shirt - but why does the Ampersand look so awful on me if I'm wearing anything else but jeans ?? It only looks good with jeans......explain it to me. So now I've got a black t-shirt, but no goth make up and one of those "I'm cool I'm retro" vests but probably I'm neither cool nor retro. You know. forget it. Do you know this longing to chat to someone and the disappointment when you go online and the person's not there ?? and not even the second best person ? that's nothing but disappointing. like printer strikes. God, these machines should make me their union speaker and they'd see what I could get them. No strikes anymore for just 2p a day----think about it! > Kerstin, > Welcome Back! > Rock On, Vilkas Thankyou !! You are *so* full of heart, people. Paul from also Germany who is only 14 - what if I promise I'll take care of you ?? If you live anywhere near me (Trier region) I can take you there in the car. I went to my first festival when I was 16 and that was also in a completely different part of Germany (500 km away) and I had practically no one to take care of me. We'll see what we can do, won't we ? lots of love, enjoy the Friday evening parties Kerstin __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Sie brauchen mehr Speicher für Ihre E-Mails? - http://premiummail.yahoo.de +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From avalanche at xxx.org Sat Apr 13 05:22:25 2002 From: avalanche at xxx.org (Kieran Turner) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 05:22:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: he had a stroke at the chatroom Message-ID: <00ed01c1e2a2$d50a83e0$de414ed5@bltc.net> Whoah, Sinister, I just had the most ridiculously stressful chatroom experience, and the only way I'm going to manage to deal with it is to come over here to you wonderful twee bopsters and de-lurk myself at you. Which will make me appear classically neurotic. Not exactly what one expects to do when making a first post. Humph. So, the story's this. I'm kind of accidentally having a love affair thingy with a girl in Ukraine. Now, with me living in Brighton, this might seem a bad idea. When you consider the appalling standard of my Russian, and the not-that-much better standard of her English, it's just a comic idea, although by no means my worst ever. Notwithstanding that, email's going fine, and then there's this spectre... let's use a chatroom. Well, OK, fine, but that's not something I do a whole hell of a lot of... and of course, I've just spent the evening, trying to be all romantic and exploring the relationship, and every third sentence was going out to a bunch of decidedly unsympathetic dutch creeps. (Stupid design with a "privacy" button you had to keep pressing.) Shit shit shit, I think I turned into a complete wreck and said even less than usual in these situations, feeling decidely non-intimate. Romance just wrecks me. I think I'm actually not bad at dealing with people. Just anything that might actually get really personal or about me... then it's brain = jelly time. Right. Character assasinated quite enough. Ask me about saving the world, I'm good at that. :) K Oh yeah... B&S content... er, luv 'em. Hey, I'm from Edinburgh so the accents make me feel sort of at home. Aye. Went on my first ever demo (an anti-vivisection march with my mum in the 80s) at the park with the amphitheatre in Glasgow that appears in the vid for Century of fakers... Howzat for obscure? Oh, yeah, and... can anyone direct me to my local church of Ken Chu? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From halighhalou at xxx.com Sat Apr 13 21:51:31 2002 From: halighhalou at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 15:51:31 -0500 Subject: Sinister: nice day for a pulk Message-ID: hello sinister. i'm replying. bron wrote: >it's >just as if a person were to stay inside a >building all day they'd never know where the >building really was in relation to other >buildings or even what part of the city they >were in... it's like, maybe one day i'll >remember where i am, and more importantly, who i >am, and why i am who i am, and where to go next. this is lovely, i thought upon my first reading of it. reading it over again, thinking i was surely going to say something about it at some point to someone or other (and why not the whole of sinister?), it reminded me of a conversation i had with someone recently. i think it started with my telling a boy story. i have a never-ending supply of those, all gems in their own right. and somehow everything shifted to beauty and what was beautiful, and how beauty can be measured by each person based on one's own understanding of it. and eventually i just stopped talking, and a little later i was sitting in the middle of my unmade bed, watching tears drip off of my cheeks and onto the blankets, making small wet splotches on the blue expanse while the voice on the other end of the line told me a story about a parasite in a man's body. and bron's reference to the buildings kind of reminded me of it. and i suppose i should tell the story at this point, but i won't, you see, because i feel selfish today. but i think the point of the story is that whatever is outside yourself and the world you create for yourself will always be different than what you imagine. and the differences between what you hope for and what you end up receiving are part of what makes the outside, the hoped for, worthwhile. and beautiful. you are who you are because you have nothing else to be. i think. maybe. maybe. xxx lou _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pktwo at xxx.de Sat Apr 13 23:25:21 2002 From: pktwo at xxx.de (pktwo at xxx.de) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:25:21 +0200 Subject: Sinister: I will confess to you... Message-ID: <200204132225.g3DMPLv01424@mailgate5.cinetic.de> Kerstin, I am from Berlin so it's probably quite difficult for me to go to Trier and then to Haldern. The transport is not actually the problem, I would find someone to drive me.My parents say there are too much drugs at these festivals and I am too young for that.I still hope my parents allow me to go but at the moment it looks dark. I've bought "Tigermilk" today and I think it's far better than "the boy with the arab strap" and the "yellow" album.By the way, does anyone know how to get a copy of "storytelling" before release?I can't wait for another three months. Cheers and good night Paul ______________________________________________________________________________ All inclusive! 100 MB Speicher, werbefrei, SMS günstiger, Wunschrufnummer, Events, Preisvorteile und mehr unter http://club.web.de/?mc=021104 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From woolything at xxx.com Sun Apr 14 01:16:51 2002 From: woolything at xxx.com (Alasdair Cook) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:16:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Blue you Message-ID: It could be said that sunsets always seem to happen somewhere else. So much for my green thumb! Talking of green, and crashing buses. Tired. It almost went a bit salmon the other day. Ha, we saw one trying to jump up a waterfall last summer. Salmon are so dumb! You weren't BORN here! Git lost! It may not have been a salmon of course. Do other fish attempt such feats? I wrote something at this time of year last year about anticipation. It read like this. One word after another, from left to wright. That was about summer, too. That's gone of course, along with all my other Buiks. Hell, even my Chevys have been chased off. Now at least I can start whining. I would say 'all I do is cry', but hahaha I don't. Although I did today, surprisingly. Bill McLaren. Wonderful! I just found out that the FA Cup Final will be held inside an aircraft. Imagine the reds, or blues, or whoever, shuffling up and down the gangways, in and out of legroom... I thought about doing an experiment a while back. I think when I'm asleep I almost certainly shout out my best art. This is based on little more than a hunch, I'll grant you, but I like hunches. I'm a hunchie kinda guy. Oh, and a little twinny. So I went to the local cheap store for whatever and bought, you know, mic and tape recorder. It ended up like this. DREAM SLEEP ART EXPERIMENT Day 1 Wake up with a tingle of anticipation playing on my tongue. TO SILENCE. CURSE MUH MUTE SELF. I AM AN ANACHRONISM! Ah no, have forgotten to switch tape player on. Day 2 A strange humming invades the room when I 'playback'. Sounds exactly opposite to a keyboard whirr on the first day of sexual awakening. Of course! It is the wheat germ cycle. Nothing more. Noting more, I note. Day 3 Only a 6 day week, for summer solstice. Traditionally, day 3 is omitted. Day 4 Day four is JOCUND day! I am so happy I think I will puke! I can clearly make out a poem on the tape, I'm sure it must be great. I will now go away and listen more carefully. Ok. I can't quite make it all out, but here's the gist. I shall title it 'Almost....' Lentil, oh, startling Anna (inaudible) abblers! Kind, and always Just die, pulled from the Well (inaudible) dove me fraught in your anteater frenzy Lazing out to sea. It is everthing I had hoped for and more! My dilapidated mind is kindled once more. I believe that tomorrow I will naturally fill in the blanks. Day 5 Have filled in the blanks. With more blanks. DAMN THE MOON. Day 6 Interesting tension between silence and lack of noise. Then! Something akin to rambling ingenues playing with wambling engines. It says 'PoStAl InCreASe'. I think it is the title of a future painting. All capital letters are spoken as such. Later, my snoring has an overwhelming feel of melancholy. Day 7 Tape player ignites mid-night. My screams as the fire approaches the guitar on the other side of the room are lost in the hubbub of water and sand. Where the sand came from, I cannot be certain. So many wasted words. I could have driven a truck through their preconceptions and prejudices, made a statement to last the ages. I eat egg to cheer my spirits. Until, Alasdair xx _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carmellie at xxx.com Sun Apr 14 09:20:34 2002 From: carmellie at xxx.com (Carmellie) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 01:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: why do the belles and the sebastians of the world hate me? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020414082034.10806.qmail@web11607.mail.yahoo.com> Once again, I'm barely missing another b&s performance. I will be in spain until the 23rd of july and they are playing benacassim festival right after that....i'm so sad. i need to find out how much it would cost to change my ticket. Geee...another 2 weeks in spain..i don't know if i could handle it :) heh heh. The things I do for this band! Carmel ===== "finally there is clarity: this tiny life is making sense" --Death Cab for Cutie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From g.lynch at xxx.com Sun Apr 14 12:33:40 2002 From: g.lynch at xxx.com (Grainne Lynch) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 04:33:40 -0700 Subject: Sinister: do you remember when, we used to sing, sha la la la la la la la la la ti da Message-ID: Hello, it's been a while. So, Belle and Sebastian played Brown Eyed Girl in Edinburgh. My absolute favourite song. I am so insanely jealous of everyone who was there to hear it. I thought it would be a perfect song to play in Belfast last year, suitable because Van Morrison is from the North, and because I would have been there to hear it. I'm a little disappointed in the band for playing it somewhere else. I feel betrayed! Of course, they could make it up to me by coming to play at Witnness. (Witnness - two day festival on a racecourse near Dublin) The band could even stay with me. I'm sure I could find beds/sofas/floors for 13+ people. I'd have to throw my family out on the street, but I'm sure they'd understand! So how about it? Othe.r festivals are coming up - ATP is next week, and some of you are going, right? Will you do me a favour and look out for Pez t-shirts, as modeled by your man on No Disco last week. If you see anybody wearing them, they will probably be one of the Warlords of Pez, so point and laugh, tell them Pez are you (second) favourite band, shout obscenities, and don't tell them I sent you! You can also see the Pez logo here: http://www.warlordsofpez.com (Slightly evil content, beware) The video will be here soon: http://www.teamdaddy.com And while I'm linking stuff, there are photos of the Belfast gig here: http://www27.brinkster.com/gralyn2/index.html Thanks to everyone who has been sending gig reviews and interviews and stuff, they're all much appreciated. Gr�inne. See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_020201/splash.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kersy83 at xxx.com Sun Apr 14 01:11:13 2002 From: kersy83 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Kerstin=20Hammes?=) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 02:11:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Sinister: Don't worry Paul - and fat Gwyneth In-Reply-To: <200204132225.g3DMPLv01424@mailgate5.cinetic.de> Message-ID: <20020414001113.93025.qmail@web10706.mail.yahoo.com> Hey sinister, a tiny bit of content for you (hope this hasn't been discussed before...), a big problem for me: in the film "shallow hal" - where Jack Black is a guy that judges women by their looks until he's put under a kind of hypnosis-spell thing and then falls in love with Gwyneth Paltrow who he sees as what she really looks like but actually she's a huge woman, attractive to no one (in the film) - I think I recognised about 5 seconds of the intro to "Women's Realm". I am *so* sure !! the song is not on the soundtrack but can anyone tell me if I was right about this ?? Actually, about the film in general: watch it !!! It depressed me quite a bit how the people in it were and especially what fat Gwyneth Paltrow-version said about herself. She was just so sure that no one was ever going to fancy her. Watch it and tell me: is she right ?? I'm not entirely sure but certainly the less attractive bit of people has to look for non-idealised lovers, don't they ?? > Kerstin, I am from Berlin so it's probably quite > difficult for me to go to Trier and then to Haldern. LOL !! Yeah, probably. What a waste of money that would be ! How's Berlin ? I've got a friend who moved their because of her job and she's not so happy with it, coming from Bernkastel/Kues with its 7000 inhabitants it's quite anonymous to her. But back to you :-) > My parents say there are > too much drugs at these festivals and I am too young > for that. Well, age never really matters about that. And personally I've never been a drug kind of person but I tend to get drunk (I'm a wine queen, I have the RIGHT to) sometimes. Still everything else seems quite manipulating and somehow without effect to me. And as far as I'm concerned it is very easy to avoid drugs at festivals because they don't exactly throw them at you. Own drinks work wonders their. love, Kerstin __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Sie brauchen mehr Speicher für Ihre E-Mails? - http://premiummail.yahoo.de +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Sun Apr 14 22:36:50 2002 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:36:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I wouldn't normally do this, but... Message-ID: A friend of mine sent me this article, I imagine I'm breaking copyright by pasting the whole thing here, but it's worth it I think. Most intriguing and disturbing. Does anyone here have a livejournal account at all? Hmm... Cincinnati Girl Committed to Mental Institution For �Schizophrenic� Online Diaries. April 11, 2002 Posted: 9:07 PM EDT (0107 GMT) Cincinnati, Ohio (CNN) �Sarah Currie (17) was yesterday committed to The St Luke Mental Facility in downtown Cincinnati after her parents discovered disturbing Internet diaries on Sarah�s computer hard drive. The diaries, which had been posted on the popular �Livejournal� site, featured two characters made up by Sarah, and, according to Dr. Adrian Yates, her psychoanalyst, these characters represent two conflicting sides of Sarah�s personality: �What we find most interesting here,� said Yates �is that Sarah not only posted two radically different diaries on the site, but also had the two different characters arguing and debating with each other over what had been written. This is really indicative of her own internal struggle, and the diaries are a kind of cry for help.� Sarah started the two diaries almost simultaneously in October of last year, and though she only updated them sporadically, the diaries contained everything from suicide threats to vivid confessions about how she hates her parents. One of the characters, �Louise� whose invented home was in Leeds, England � the place where Sarah was born � would post about hating school, and feeling constantly alienated, while the other �Claire� whose invented home was in New York, would update her diary with tales of not being able to get a boyfriend or worries about her weight. The discovery that Louise and Claire were one and the same was made by 19 year old Programming student Adam Jackson: �I have a livejournal myself, so I�m on the site quite a lot, I get a kick out of reading other people�s diaries and trying to help them out if I can � I first came across Sarah�s stuff with her diary for Louise and the two of them - Claire and Louise were having this argument about whose pain was more important � I made the point that they were in different situations and should try to help each other instead of just fighting, but they just ignored me. I didn�t think much of it at the time, people are always arguing on there, but then a week or so later I noticed a different post, from Louise on someone else�s journal, but it was typed in a completely different style to the one she had used in her own journal and in the argument with Claire � the style was closer to Claire�s, Claire used a more traditional method of typing, with proper capital letters and stuff whereas Louise was looser, and with really bad spelling. I thought this was a bit weird, so I did some digging on both Claire and Louise and found that the two IP�s matched, so I was pretty sure then that they were the same person. From the IP I got an email address, which belonged to Sarah�s dad and, well, I don�t know if it�s really proof that she�s crazy, but the doctors know that better than I do.� This is the first case of its kind recorded, and treatment has so far been slow. Yates: �Sarah seems very reluctant to recognise her own illness, in fact she denies it even exists. This is quite typical of schizophrenic patients though, they might seem totally normal in some situations, Sarah herself acted perfectly normally at school and with her parents, it was only her internet behaviour that showed her true inner turmoil. At the moment she is insisting that the livejournals were just jokes, and that the reason she did it was to show how stupid the people who use the site are, but I think once we get past this we�ll be able to make some real progress with her. � The site, which has become a popular cultural phenomenon among young people started up in March 1999 to instant acclaim. Site founder Brad Fitzpatrick had this to say about Sarah�s case: �Obviously we�re all very concerned for Sarah�s well being and I hope she makes a swift recovery. I�m glad no one is blaming us for the incident, since we have come under fire in the past for the confessional nature of some of the diaries. But in terms of what we set out to do, the site has been a great success, there�s a real community atmosphere of people helping each other solve problems, and occasionally it�s just a good place to vent as well!� There has been some consternation from human rights groups over the decision to keep Sarah on full time at St Luke�s, but Sarah�s parents Laura (46) and Alan Currie (48), fully support the decision. They issued this statement yesterday: �At the moment we�re still slightly shocked by the discovery, but we want everyone to know that we love our daughter very much and we�re not going to let her illness tear us apart. Together we�re going to beat this thing. And to people who have been questioning our decision, we appreciate your concern, but we only want what�s best for our daughter.� Blimey - Kieran _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From s_gazzetti at xxx.ar Sun Apr 14 23:15:29 2002 From: s_gazzetti at xxx.ar (=?iso-8859-1?q?sgazzetti?=) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 19:15:29 -0300 (ART) Subject: Sinister: Rimini: A Situation Report or, if you just want a set list, scroll down Message-ID: <20020414221529.37644.qmail@web14407.mail.yahoo.com> Friday, 12 April: Rimini is a pleasant though uncertain seaside city whose economy appears to be based entirely upon beach tourism and lingerie. I am standing on the broad beach in the dark with my feet eased into the Adriatic, looking forward to tomorrow, a day free to wander the town, recon the gig venue, and then bathe in the music that’s just 24 hours away. Although it’s night, the flat expanse of sand is well-lit by the light from the thousands of bars, hotels, and lingerie shops lining the beachfront, the glow reflected off low clouds that promise rain. I walk back to my hotel along the sand, down where the falling tide has left the sand hard and easy to walk on, until the oily-blackness of a canal not named on my map forces me to move up the beach to where the sand is soft, and therefore hard to walk in. It strikes me as interesting that something as impassive and timeless as sand can be so perverse as to be both hard and soft, easy and hard, at the same time. To bed! Saturday, 13 April: Rimini is a pleasant though imprecise town that can’t help but make me recall seaside resort towns everywhere. In places, this could be Delray Beach, Florida, if Delray Beach had the ruins of a Roman amphitheatre and a Renaissance temple designed by Alberti (Gordon? Yes?) and they spoke Italian and had Vespas. I decide to locate the venue, called the Velvet. I have asked at the hotel where Via Sant’ Aquilina can be found, and Andrea, the night desk clerk, thinks I am quite mad to want to go all the way out there. Andrea doesn't know the half of it. “It’s practically in San Marino,” he says distastefully, naming the world’s oldest and smallest republic, or so it claims. He shows me on the map, noting that where I want to go is actually OFF the map. Advises me to go sempre diritto and count semáfori and then bear right when I am nearly to San Marino. His directions are perfect, and I find the club far out a winding, gently climbing road in the middle of green country planted with vines and fruit trees. I am glad that I am researching it early. The show’s not really IN Rimini at all. It’s practically not in Italy. I can see the wee republic which the Velvet is almost in gazing down on the place from its eyrie. I am also glad that I have a car, and wonder how those arriving without are supposed to locate Belle & Sebastian out here in the bush. I am vexed that I was unable to make arrangements with those from the list who wrote me about meeting up, and don’t know whether they are independently mobile or not. Hope so. Since I’m halfway there, I decide to visit the Republic of San Marino. Pity they don’t stamp your passport. It’s a dramatic town/republic, though, beetling above the plains below on a craggy jut of yellow rock. Fortress towers grow organically from the cliffs. Tourists buy duty-free counterfeit perfume and truffle liqueur. I spend the day crawling around the 13th-through-17th century fortifications and admiring the tenacity of the wind in its efforts in still trying to knock these towers down after all these centuries of abject failure in that department. From the highest point in the republic, a tower raised in 1253, I can see the Adriatic sparkling under a springy blue sky just tinged with sea haze out towards Dalmatia. During my brief visit to the republic, two out of the three people with whom I conduct business either try to or succeed in swindling me--I later realise I am shorted two Euros in my purchase of an entry to the castle, and when I tank up, the petrolero tries to take me for ten, but I am too canny. This might explain why Struan’s mention of the San Marinesi a few hours later at the gig draws forth vehement booing from the largely Bolognese crowd. The Velvet is a complete disaster, from a liability underwriter’s point of view. But it is a small place, and I am delighted to be there fairly early and so I get very close to the stage, which is low and small in any case. I am about three metres from the edge of the stage, directly in front of Stuart’s microphone, when the band take the stage. I am shocked at Struan’s appearance; he has aged sixty years since I saw him in Edinburgh less than two weeks ago! Though elegant and dapper in a neat suit and tie, he is bowed with age, and his grey beard reaches to his chest. He is so frail he can barely hobble out onto the stage as the band plays “The Green, Green Grass of Home.” Can this possibly be the same man reportedly spotted jogging through Rimini this very morning? But it IS Stuart Murdoch. He is attended tenderly by a lovely blonde in a nurse’s uniform, a striking young woman who bears a certain resemblance to Isobel. She supports his right arm, as the cane in Stuart’s left hand shakily seeks purchase among the cables and gizmos duct-taped to the stage. She gently maneuvers him to the piano bench and he wearily takes a seat as the band round out their sentimental old-age ballad. Removing their disguises, Isobel and Stuart take their places as the band launch into a rollicking “There’s Too Much Love.” Stuart dances like a maniac. Great start to a fantastic gig. Set List in its (I think) entirety; please bear with my comments: Green, Green Grass of Home as indicated above There’s Too Much Love (ditto). Here I develop some misgivings about volume level problems as reported following the London show last week; Isobel is gesturing frantically for more microphone volume. Her cello is not producing at all, and she waves the bow above her head, pointing, ‘up!’ She gives up, and slouches on the piano bench, petulantly banging a tambourine against her knee. Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie--Volume issues resolved. Pete Townsend leaps from Stevie. Isobel not sulking. I’m Waking Up To Us--beautiful strings. Interlude while Stuart reads prepared Italian greetings. Stevie manages an unscripted “Buena Sera”, to which Stuart remarks, “I think that’s a bit more like Spanish.” Stevie replies, “yeah, well I heard there might BE some Spanish in the audience tonight.” Sorry we didn’t manage to meet up, Maria Sierra Florez. String Bean Jean (restrained, but not quiet) Seymour Stein The Spanish-sounding one from “Storytelling”, fandango handclapping. (This audience is VERY into handclapping along, by the way, even preventing Bob from properly doing the actual handclaps later when they play TWATTYBUS.) My Wandering Days Are Over The Model (which Stuart jokes, over the harpsichordy beginning, “this is a song by Kraftwerk.”) SOARING strings. Improv bit with Stevie wailing on a harmonica and Bob yanking reggae-esque chords while Stuart chills and drinks water. Then Stuart asks Stevie if he thinks he could sing “Rock Me, Baby.” Stevie seems taken aback, but Stuart points out that he did a fine job with it doing karaoke recently. Question: can the collective you think of anything more entertaining than doing karaoke with those two? Let me know. So Stevie puts his whole soul into this turgid seventies dreck, transforms it, rocks it, writhes like Robert Plant. For any who can’t quite place this song, I’ll sing a bit: TAKE me in your arms, And ROCK me baby Oooh, rock me baby That’s about it. Recognise it now? Continuing: Simple Things The Boy with the, well, you know Fox in the Snow. To the audience: Fox in the Snow is NOT a clap-along-friendly tune. Family Tree Get Me Away From Here, I’m Dying Lazy Line Painter Jane, also restrained, low-key--but nice The Wrong Girl--this song always makes me think of Buenos Aires, where my listee friend Carlos took me to see a band called Bristol, who played this as an encore (also Bigmouth Strikes Again) Ah. Nostalgia. Carlos, ¿te has perdido, por donde andás? Dirty Dream #2 If my notes are correct, what happened next was: (Pause) (Then) WALL OF SOUND, face-slammingly loud and energetic out-tro from LLPJ, completely making up for the restrained muted Monica-Queenless version a few minutes before. At this point Struan expresses the plaintive wish that some fans could come up on the stage and dance. He selects one Francesca and pulls her up, and the band close, as in Edinburgh, with a LOUD, BRIGHTLY LIT and super-psychedelilicious version of Legal Man. This is indescribable, so I won’t, but it is a wonderful closer. There are no encores, but I leave highly satisfied, passing within two metres of Isobel as I exit the venue. I leave her alone. She looks spent. To the short girls I gallantly helped to the front at Stuart’s behest. You’re welcome. Here ends the content portion of this text. Sunday, 14 April: like Belle & Sebastian concerts, long weekends must end, and so I must head back to Slovenia. But Sunday is a gorgeous day, warm, sunny, with enough lofty sea clouds to keep it interesting, so I spend some daylight time on the beach, watching ornate kites spar and sailboats sail. Quitting Rimini, too cheap to buy a map that extends this far south, I am left to follow signs to find my way back onto the map whose southern limit is about two hours north. I am determined to avoid the road I came down, a clogged artery, and head for the autostrada instead; longer distance, but surely quicker. Memo to myself: do not follow signs in Italy. With all due respect to our Italian listees (non mi odiare, Silvietta), following signs is the surest way of guaranteeing that I will NOT end up at the place indicated on the sign. Maybe it’s me, but I generally have a good sense of direction and am an attentive driver. The signs promise Ferrara. They deliver Ravenna. They offer Padova; I find myself in Marina Romea, and on the bloody SS309 again, the road I’d vowed to avoid! I’ve been driving for two hours and am not even back on my damned map yet. The scenery is good, though. Throughout my efforts to locate the main route north I am sailing through fertile farmland in the full embrace of spring. Intensely green fields of young grain, immense orchards of blossoming fruit and nut trees, and vines vines vines, planted with such design that looking sideways at them as I speed by creates a strobe effect, looking down intersecting corridors between the rows, an effect increased by pressure on the accelerator until I worry about an epilectic seizure and think I might keep my eyes on the road. I want to pull off and accost some ancient on a bicycle: what are these crops? Are those apricots? Is that wheat? It makes me think of Saskatchewan, and how the farmers put up signs so you know what kind of future foodstuffs you are bypassing. CANOLA says a small placard dwarfed by an endless sea of yellow. In Alberta you can drive for hours and see nothing but sunflowers and signs that say SUNFLOWERS, somewhat unnecessarily, actually. Here there are no signs indicating cash crops, but decaying stucco barns house barnswallows who joust with my windshield. Few things can put joy in my heart like watching a swallow swoop, particularly the morning after a B&S show, I am finding. But in the end, it’s back to the SS309 for me. Elated and defeated, I stop in a café/fueling opportunity and drink a coffee, looking out toward the sea and the clouds growing anvil-heads. Though the sun is hot, it is snowing here in Marina Romea. Closer inspection reveals that the snow is actually massive amounts of spring tree-stuff; not pollen, but that cotton-wool stuff that some trees seem to send out into the breeze as some sort of bid at asexual reproduction. Is there a term for this material? Any botanists on Sinister? The air is full of it, and the stuff collects in drifts against the sleeping café bulldog. I inhale it, and it bothers my throat for the rest of the ride back to Nova Gorica. But before I continue north I must make a decision regarding disposition of my dwindling supply of Euri; a proper meal or enough cash-on-hand for essentials, such as more coffee, a newspaper in a language I can decipher, tolls, and Red Bull. In the end, I opt for the placebo effect of the chemical strawberry tang. P.T. Barnum was right. The SS309 is a schizophrenic road; it can’t decide if it is autostrada or Main Street of a thousand little towns. Teutonic engineering marvels bear down on my rear-view mirror like they want to emboss my bumper with the Bavarian coat of arms, Mercedes stars, or the four linked rings of the dreaded Audi. My Golf can move along, but the situation is not helped by a speedometer stuck forevermore on 140. Caught up in this German slipstream, I come upon surprise traffic lights Christ! is that thing RED and pedestrian crossings in the middle of nowhere. Crossing the gigantic Po I feel the air temperature drop noticeably. Clouds build and consolidate toward the head of the Adriatic. Eventually Venice appears, and after that it’s all autostrada to the border crossing. I am miffed that the Slovene police, so recently my nemesis, wave me through without even looking at my passport, let alone the gigantic hologramatic new visa which finally allows me to enter their country legally. Back. Every Euro, every kilometre covered, well worth it. JDS Conectate a Internet GRATIS con Yahoo! Conexión: http://conexion.yahoo.com.ar +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Apr 14 22:04:12 2002 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 22:04:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Reporting Back - Big Gay Paree Message-ID: <000701c1e3f7$f2727860$b68201d5@oemcomputer> Hi All, Chris/Cabbage has unsubbed for a while, but sent me this to forward (sorry its a bit old now - my fault entirely): > last night was amazing, it reaffirmed my love of the band, imagine the > Brixton academy all seated and full of non-twee people rapt with attention > and very enthusiastic. > > I have random thoughts that I wrote down last night plus full wardrobe > listing, here they are: > > > stuart - white tshirt with Stuart on front, he claims to have had it since > he was twelve, does some announcements in poor french > > bob - elvis t shirt I think we've seen before > > Stevie - white long sleeve t with horizontal stripes, sings in the style of > elvis costello > > bel - E says she's lost weight, wearing short dress and knee high boots, > looks lovely in fact > > Sarah - no voice (is replaced by the lovely Dervilagh on backing for legal > man) stripey jumper > > Chris - grey t-shirt, says "defense de fumer" when Stuart takes a cigarette > off someone, waves frantically when piano comes in too loud in sleep the > clock around > > Richard, v. quiet, dark t-shirt > > Mick, dark blue shirt "looks gorgeous as always" says Elena > > hmmmm, other things..... > > the kids got on stage for a wee while, a girl did the speaking bit from dd2 > not quite right, in franglais. > > the audience reall were rapt, it was amazing to see. > > Stuart fines the band in Euros now Ally Cook uses Hardy verbs shocker! (and is insane) I can Report Back on his arting in his sleep after next weekend. None of you lot went to see Ant last night, silly. All the more room for me though. You could still go next Saturday, mind. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinepainter at xxx.net Mon Apr 15 00:51:20 2002 From: lazylinepainter at xxx.net (Salp) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:51:20 -0500 Subject: Sinister: decisions Message-ID: <002501c1e40f$47c94660$10acb041@salp> Well, everybody this is my first official post and I don't want to put any pressure on you guys but I need some help deciding what I should do on the night of May 11th. Do I take my girlfriend to our high school prom, or ditch her and go with my buddy who has an extra ticket to the Chicago gig? It could mean the end of a relationship, but it also could be a deeply religious experience with the one of the best bands of my era. I don't know what to do, and after reading the words of the posters, I can confidently rely on the wisdom of the sinisterians. Matthew +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From candlesdie at xxx.com Mon Apr 15 01:40:38 2002 From: candlesdie at xxx.com (-robert .) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:40:38 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I wouldn't normally do this, but... Message-ID: >From: "Kieran Devaney" >Cincinnati Girl Committed to Mental Institution For �Schizophrenic� Online Diaries. This article is clearly a hoax. Don't believe it. :) -robert. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kersy83 at xxx.com Mon Apr 15 07:07:24 2002 From: kersy83 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Kerstin=20Hammes?=) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 08:07:24 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Sinister: Claire, Kieran, Louise, Sarah In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020415060724.49789.qmail@web10706.mail.yahoo.com> Re: Kieran's article *confusion* Shock me with this on a Monday morning at 7 a.m., please !! In a computer lesson. It's actually the people that are crazy, aren't they ? I'd sue each of them. have to look at Livejournal site then. sounds interesting. Kerstin __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Sie brauchen mehr Speicher für Ihre E-Mails? - http://premiummail.yahoo.de +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From halighhalou at xxx.com Tue Apr 16 06:11:32 2002 From: halighhalou at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 00:11:32 -0500 Subject: Sinister: well happy birthday anyway. Message-ID: hello sinister. birthdays always make me sad. i sat around for a while in front of the computer today, thinking about posting and what heady lyric should make the subject field. i finally decided on the good life, like we all knew i would, though for a brief moment i considered conor's 'happy birthday to me.' i thought, too, that the parenthetical bit of pretentiousness after the song title -- (feb. 15) -- was the date of conor's birthday, and got relatively excited that my birthday was two months to the day after his. that ecstasy was short-lived, though, once i realized that my getting jazzed about that might really mean i was a saddo devotee, a crazed fan lusting after her little nebraska superstar. eeps. **** the day started out beautifully. matt called at 11 the night before, and asked if i would come sit on the roof of a building with him. the dormitory building in which i used to live. i said ok, looking forward to the walk from the paper to the dorm. the weather here has been positively balmy at night, though a little too warm and too windy during the day for my liking. i got to the dorm and cautiously made my way up the rather rickety, open steps to the rooftop. we smoked and talked and chucked cigarettes at the sorority girls tripping by below us, and for a few moments, i could make out orion in the sky. matt gave me presents, and, at midnight, proudly announced that he would be the first to wish me happy birthday. and he was. later, the first six hours of my birthday were spent talking, just as i think i would have wished. and i slept until noon, when my mom called for her second round of well-wishing today. most people i know forgot my birthday was today. because today is only tax day, after all. funny that so many people hate my birthday, some have said, and i laugh and our teeth flash and the moment passes without a second thought from one half of the conversation. i feel old, and twenty has become suddenly an appearance as well as an age. sometimes, i hate my birthday, too. **** a photographer noticed i was having a rough afternoon, what with the riveting story about a new snake at the zoo not coming through so well. i was lying on the couch, curled up in a loose fetal position, muffled, crying out 'fuck the fucking snake,' and he came over to see how he could make everything better. he asked if i liked ducks or rabbits. i thought for a moment, and said probably ducks. rabbits brought to mind images of, well, images of a tea cup and a lot of humping. which led to thoughts of happy spring time couples traipsing the downtown streets attached at the hands. which brought to mind my own fleeting, frightening desire to maybe bump the happy couples a little bit with my car. ducks, i said. (unless the rabbits came on cups, which he said they didn't, though he didn't get it.) i left the paper to go home and lie down properly for a bit, change my clothes and try to freshen up. when i got back to the paper after about an hour, a little orange and yellow stuffed duck was lying on the arts desk, with a sign: 'happy birthday baby booms. from mike.' **** sean called looking for the editor, and i said she wasn't here. he asked if i was going to the night meeting, and i said i might not. it was my birthday and i didn't feel quite like looking at the ex-boyfriend's bandanna-ed head for that long. sean said he had been negligent, and could he take me out for coffee. i said of course. the day ended, then, how it began, with talking. about life and love and tea and an added (albeit lengthy) conversation about the strokes. (how indie are they really? are you cool if you listen to them? what constitutes an indie sell-out? and why, for god's sake, would you spend $100,000 to make a muffled album that tries to sound like it was recorded on a four-track in a basement when it could have been done for much less and RECORDED ON A FOUR-TRACK IN A BASEMENT?) but the end made me wish for the beginning. and isn't it sad that when i look at that, i am reduced to the smashing pumpkins: the end is the beginning is the end and so twenty years have passed, and i am none the wiser. well, happy birthday anyway. xxx love, lou _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Tue Apr 16 13:57:15 2002 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 12:57:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Store Retailing Message-ID: Sinister, I have been meaning to write for a while, but I have never realised how much losing Internet access at work can reduce ones posting abilities. I feel the need to post first of all to thank the people who sent me crush votes of late, even if you have taken the vote back presumably due to my ack of acknowledgement. I felt loved! Being loved is a great feeling, a bit like eating cheese. I am getting more than just cheese lately since not only am I getting crush votes there was an entire pastiche written about me! which gave me the warm feeling that's only rivalled by eating cheese, on toast. Or noodles. Anyway I do ramble so.. a few days ago I had so many witty replies to various messages on this sinister list, and much flirtatious missives too. However I have forgotten them all so I will just talk about B&S instead. I like how the band are hitting big time selling out every gig on their World Tour and playing in big fuckoff festivals and on the centre stage for some of them! The other day I got out the boardgame "Risk" and I played a soldier on each place that B&S have played.. they're approaching World Domination you know! I wonder when will the band play Madagascar and Yakutsk. The sun is shining outside and I'm feeling active, I have been having this great urge to do things recently, and learn new things, so far I've learnt how to chop onions into equalish sized dices and the names of all 50 states in America. Although I am way off from being able to recite all of them alphabetically in less than a minute, a feat I was lucky enough to witness on Saturday. Speaking of feat it's time to run, writing to sinister sure is fun, poetry in 2 minutes' quite a stunt, ooh Ken Chu he's such a c***... Love and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Now that all of the B&S Treasure Hunt clues have been found, I wonder if the band will release the answers to the clues any time soon. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Tue Apr 16 02:20:02 2002 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 18:20:02 -0700 Subject: Sinister: hey everyone Message-ID: hi guys and gals. i've been taking a respite and found that i missed you all so very very much. i hope that all of you are toadie :o) i have a new obsession..telepopmusik...they are so lovely. dunno if you have heard them but you can listen to them on a free player at candypushers.com am also very jazzed that my zero 7 boys will be in chicago in just a few days!! cant wait! i think that is the only show that ive wanted to go to this year that i wont miss! yay! :o) also, i am going to my england finally! i leave on 24 may and come home on 2 june so if any of you have any pointers please email me off list! ill be in london for a couple of days...mostly in oxford though. i may try to get to dublin for a pint with dirty vicar though :o) anyway, i guess i mainly am posting to get some opinions on my trip so by all means get back to me :o) thanks everyone. take care ~~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jamie at xxx.uk Tue Apr 16 15:38:53 2002 From: Jamie at xxx.uk (Jamie Harrison) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:38:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Perhaps it's the "joys of Spring?" Message-ID: <003701c1e554$721b2640$9865fea9@JAMIESROOM> Woohoo! :-o Hi to all! I am doing a quick post to share something. I am feeling really upbeat for some reason. I am enjoying reading these posts as well. I have been feeling rather down for a while really, since before Christmas and for no one reason in particular. I am usually on my own for long periods of time and it was really starting to get to me. I've never been close to anyone in particular and any people I have been good friends with have moved away or we've just lost touch. I've decided to try and snap out of it, pull my socks up and get on with life and when I have been stuck in at night, I've been reading these posts and often they've raised my spirits. I know that we shouldn't discuss the list itself, but I've also been looking through the archives as well and this has kept me entertained. I have been listening to B & S a lot too and it has occupied my time. I am waiting to hear about a new job, so that will give me the opportunity to meet some new people. I am on a reserve list until August, so hopefully something will pop up before then. In May I am going to see Le Tigre at the Social in Nottingham. I am not sure what to expect from them, although I like the Social in any case. I have Feminist Sweepstakes, the latest album, and enjoy it the further in to the album it goes. I am also getting a recordable mini disc so that I can lose myself on the trains going into work! It's nothing amazing, but these material goods and reading your posts does make a difference, so I just wanted to genuinely thank everyone for their contribution! All I need now, is enough money to move out of my parents into my own place and I'll be sorted!!! Love, Jamie "No one likes a smart arse but, I've seen a pattern emerge I will race you up the hill" -Belle & Sebastian I love that line! :-) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shannonjeanmaney at xxx.com Tue Apr 16 16:03:21 2002 From: shannonjeanmaney at xxx.com (Shanny Jean) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:03:21 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Am I out? References: Message-ID: Hi! i'm shannon, some know me, some don't, first post, yadayada. i'm not actually sure if i'm out of the nursery yet, but i thought i would give it a shot. if i receive a message saying, "whoa there little one, you're not out yet," i haven't actually Lost anything, true? yes, it's true. so in less than one month, belle and sebastian will be playing in chicago. now all of you who have seen them countless times might be saying, "yes, shannon, we know. hurray for you," in a very unimpressed, unexcited monotone. But. This is Absolutely Life Altering. you see, /me was under the impression that she was going to have to fly trans-ocean to experience her favorite makers of music live. and now? Now i just have to drive up the road. in her vehicle. to the place she would have driven to board the plane to fly tothe continent to see the gig of her favorite makers of music. it's practically come full circle! oh yes, my friends. this is Life Altering. so about that: are there any festivities in the works for chicago? i vote yes for festivities. please, let's do. and with that, i go study. the life of a b+s fan is a busy one in normal, IL (i actually Live in the town of Normal. keep your puns to yourself.) if anyone is from Rome, georgia, you should go to berry college this weekend and watch the National Forensics Association's national speech meet. i'll be there competing and sweating my skin off. much love, shannon jean (imshanny) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Tue Apr 16 18:50:29 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:50:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: the volcano rap Message-ID: <20020416175029.26311.qmail@web14403.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everyone, I'm Dean and I'm new. Well, I'm not really but my lack of computer knowledge means that I am (don't ask). Wasn't like that in my day when everything was made of wood and we respected our elders for cramming us up chimneys. Aaahh (nostalgic sigh.) Just writing to say hi and that I'm quite jealous of anyone going to any gigs recently or coming up. Skint until the 26th - grrr. Does anybody know if that line about "he reminded you of johnny - before he went electronic" is about the mighty johnny marr? I've always suspected but was never sure. and oh yes, if anyone has any tips for a best man's speech, I'd be grateful too. Mates wedding next week and I'm crap at stuff like that. I suppose I'll just get pissed and play it by ear. Oh well, I'll post something a bit more sensible when I've done anything worth writing about. See ya. Dean __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mrsaudiac at xxx.com Tue Apr 16 18:57:05 2002 From: mrsaudiac at xxx.com (jenn pb) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 12:57:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Chicago B&S Tickets Message-ID: Hi! Nothing of interest here except for those who might have spare tickets for B & S in Chicago. Do you have them? Do you want to get rid of them? I'm your lady. Please email me offlist, Thanks oodles, Jenn _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Wed Apr 17 00:03:18 2002 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 00:03:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ooh look, there goes concorde again Message-ID: hello everyone, the good woman and I are off to All Tomorrow's Parties very soon now. We are going to have a good time all of the time. We're also heading over to Brighton on Monday. does anyone know if there is any fun to be had there? there's a good likelihood we'll just charge around pretending we have scooters and shouting "We Are The Mods" at random passers-by. In a private mail a Sini-subber once commented that I seem to be always buying compilation albums. he'll be happy to hear that I've done it again, because I was so enraptured by the film "24 Hours Party People" that I bought myself the soundrack album. You have scene this film, yes, the one with Steve Coogan playing Factory supremo Tony Wilson, and chortled along with the wacky hi-jinks the label gets up to? Well, you should, if you like music, particularly music from Manchester. has any city produced so many great bands, even if they did fumble the ball when Wasis came on the scene? Fernando scoffed at Lotus Notes and said how happy he would be to be working for Microsoft. Beware, Fernando. Seductive the Dark Side is. that's it, then. bless, DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From minster at xxx.net Wed Apr 17 15:15:59 2002 From: minster at xxx.net (minster at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:15:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Listy foe-pa Message-ID: <20020417141559.CEGF20365.fep02-svc.ttyl.com@localhost> I know I shouldn't do this but I realy can't help myself it isn't very often that I get moved to a full-stop giggle at the expense of myself and some that are quite like me. Sometimes the truth is funnier than friction! oh just have a look you'll see what I mean! http://www.theonion.com/onion3813/record-store_clerks.html +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Wed Apr 17 15:46:10 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 15:46:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: great sebadoh disaster Message-ID: Another review of Brixton. Interesting not for what it has to say but how it chooses to say it. The writer has decided to write a fictionalised account of two people going to see the gig (possibly himself and a friend). I suspect he or she may be taking the piss, but there are some funny moments. http://212.87.85.170/new/story.asp?id=1156 ---------- >From: minster at xxx.net >To: sinister at missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: Listy foe-pa >Date: Wed, Apr 17, 2002, 3:15 pm > >I know I shouldn't do this but I realy can't help myself >it isn't very often that I get moved to a full-stop >giggle at the expense of myself and some that are quite like me. >Sometimes the truth is funnier than friction! >oh just have a look you'll see what I mean! >http://www.theonion.com/onion3813/record-store_clerks.html > > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From loulouhex at xxx.com Wed Apr 17 20:37:59 2002 From: loulouhex at xxx.com (Vilkas D'Angelo-Horvath) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 15:37:59 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Word Up-Everybody Sing...* Message-ID: Hello Sinister Kids. MAGAZINE Careless Talk Costs Lives: I liked the issue I read. But it was definitely pretentious. Some nice articles, some nice new information. Reading it was similar to talking to the snotty guy you know who you would enjoy talking about records with, but he's waaaay to cool for you and his records are carefully picked to remain cool. But I still liked it, but I like Q. Compared to the Rolling Stone magazine and Spin so readily available here; it whups ass. ROCK Related to this, my stance on music is: I don't like things that suck. I do like things that rock. And somethimes I like things that suck. STEAMED HAMS Ok. I have a Philadelphia ticket to sell for face value. Y'know now that there's a DC show and all. And that the week I'm up with my family for my cousins wedding, there's the NY show which will be a nice excuse to get the fuck off Long Island. I'm not even staying with them the whole time; my best friends live around and visits will occur. But Still. Don't get me wrong, I love all my cousins and aunts and uncles and stuff; but they're right wing, conservative, in the Navy, Pro-Life, Roman Catholic and I am a far left wing secular Buddhist. I'm not very religious, but when put into a situation where Jesus is stalking me at every turn; well that's a little odd having to actively pick a side. Trying to explain a way of living that's not actually a religion...whoa. They were surprised to know I wasn't even Christian. There are some times when I bite my tongue cos to start something wouldn't be a good idea and wouldn't change anyone's ideas about anything. I don't want to try to change their ideas; I just want mutual respect. Riiight. So anybody want my Philadelphia ticket? DC PIC-A-NIC There will be a DC picnic. I think me and Jenny Payne are the mummies. More info to come. We've got some ideas but suggestions are very very welcomed. ROCK Can I say how much I am in love with Ballboy's record/compilation "Club Anthems"? They're FAB. And I'm not from Scotland either. Favourite song: "Donald in the Bushes With a Bag of Glue", "I've Got Pictures of You in Your Underwear" and "One Sailor Was Waving". For the names of the first two alone. It's nice cos it simple but not afraid to fully embrace Phil Spector's Wall Of Sound. It's Unrest versus Arab Strap. ROCK! FUGAZI, PINE TREES, RAH-BRAS, A LAKE, AND 34 DEGREES FARENHEIT Fugazi played here a few weeks ago. I LOVE Fugazi and have since age 14. However, due to bastard cars, broke-assedness, and being at jobs instead of venues; I've only managed to see them play out two and a half times before. And I'm 27 now. They played at the local posh university that funnily enough has the FABulous radio station. The actual venue was at an outdoor amphitheatre surrounded by pine trees, leafy trees, and a lake. It was 34 degrees farenheit out i.e. cold as fuck. The local kids, the Rah-Bras opened. They rocked. I've seen them a bunch and this was the best sound ever. All their songs sounded so good and so clear yet still ferocious and Wrarrrrr. Same with Fugazi, I think the dirt of the amphitheatre and the pine trees and shit made fabulous sound conducters. Fugazi played two of my fave songs. Merchandise and Reclamation. Reclamation has this beginning gittar bit that sounds like the noises Beavis and Butthead make to sound like guitars. Or maybe like an actual waterfall. Sounds like "Beirnn neer neer neer neer neer neer". And Merchandise was great cos it rocks, is righteous, and makes me remember hearing punk rock for the first time and how exciting and dynamic this sound was. Telling you lot about this, I assume there more than one crossover listeners cos how dull would it be to listen to only one kind/speed of music. La la luv ya, Vilkas *As always, a contest if you know who sang the subject line. It's an easy one. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vote4dyer at xxx.com Wed Apr 17 21:22:53 2002 From: vote4dyer at xxx.com (Ramesh Srivastava) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 15:22:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Looking For Tickets Message-ID: Excuse me if this is improper, but here it is: I am looking, for the sake of some friends for one ticket to each of the following shows: 1. Boston 2. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poliksena at xxx.com Wed Apr 17 22:36:10 2002 From: poliksena at xxx.com (Dorie Pacheco) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 17:36:10 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Another baby to the family Message-ID: Hello, Yep, first post, been out of the nursery a while but slightly intimidated to write, not sure what to say, I'm not the poetic type, wish I was though! I was introduced to B&S fairly recently but once I heard their music I was completely enthralled. I am going to the show in Montreal instead of the Toronto show and since I live pretty much half way between both (a little limestone town called Kingston) it was a matter of which town I like best...you can't beat the french...amour, amour...yeah, I'm Canadian eh! Anybody else have Montreal tickets??? I have an idea where the show is but not sure which way to take...any suggestions...plus I'm driving, so if you live anywhere between K-town and Montreal I can pick you up, only room for one though, already have 3 others in my car...red rocket is her name. Cheesy part...I have really enjoyed reading the posts. It is great to hear about places (specifically in the UK) that I dream about visiting sometime, know I will, maybe next summer... That's all for now! Dorie :.) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Thu Apr 18 05:26:15 2002 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 04:26:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Locker Room Of My Soul Is Full Of Panting Egrets Message-ID: I'm saying this strictly for effect. I always wonder how confusing it is for newcomers to the list to become assimilated with all the inside jokes and references that sinister members seem to bat around with ease. For instance in response to queries of who was Struan Mark Casarrotto muttered, "Don't you chaps ever have your own nicknames for things and people you feel affection for? You're called mmm skyscraper, mate, you're hardly one to talk." You'd think he was all *down* with nicknames but try to regularly call him a 'smarmy little bastard' as a term of endearment as see how well he warms up to you. It doesn't even matter if you throw in a little cheer of "Gimme a C! Gimme an A! Gimme an S! Oh, fuck this shit." Boys - you can't live with them and it's illegal to chop them up in tiny pieces and feed them to fishies with sharp teeth. Personally, I have my own little nicknames for members of the band: Stuart Murdoch: Oh, Cabana Boy Stuart David: Alcoholocaust Bob Kildea: Why that Looks Nothing Like Stuart David Richard Colburn: Tricky Dicky (Evidently, I shouldn't say "that might just be what my life is missing - a little tricky dicky." It results in people running away from me.) Sarah Martin: Betty Ford Isobel Campbell: Abracadever which just barely beat out the frequently used (but never by me. Oh no) - Hey Fat Ass, Why The Hokey Are You Wearing WRANGLERS? Another thing newbees might not be aware of is certain listees one should be wary of. For example, Miss Maddie Minx minxed, "Question. Can the Americans amongst us please explain, in full lurid detail (or charming euphemism if you wish) what exactly first, second and third base are? I mean, I do know generally, but I want specifics." A while back MMM was asking about how to give hickies. Not knowing how to accurately do justice to its beauty via the restrictive medium of words I simply said that I'd just show her if we ever met. Pegging Americans as lazy with words it's obvious she's just fishing for "hands-on" tutorials. Next thing you know she'll be changing her voice mail to say, "I can't come to the phone right now because I'm too fucking busy... and vice versa." Beware kids, you have no idea what she has in mind for that seventh inning stretch. Thinking of Saucy Sinister Girls (and when are we not?), I finally got to meet *the* Sexpot herself - Miss Julie who might be best known on the list for her love letters to Neil Robertson last autumn (I know they brought tears to my eyes) and being the ever faithful NY picnic mum. She graciously let me stay at her house a few roadtrips ago when I was up in Pennsylvania. We went bowling!, played air hockey!, played skee ball!, she played ddr (i watched from afar), and picked out fashionable jelly bracelets from our winning tickets. Oh yes - we are VERITABLE renaissance women. It was much fun and she is everything you could hope for in a girl. She has Personality: Me: Where have you been? Did you get a life? Julie: No! And I am insulted that you would insinuate such a thing! Looks: Hello, she's a sexpot! and a GWG. Keen Insight On Life: "The Make Out Club and where emo losers go to look for other emo losers with whom to have drunken fumblings with after the Bright Eyes show." (Sidenote: I've been to a Bright Eyes show and I can assure you there was NO drunken fumblings after it. I demand a refund!) A Bookshop Girl: "Sometimes I stare at the three shelves of Chicken Soup books at my work and think my God, how much inspiration does the world need. We are truly in a sad state if we need THIS much inspiration. Chicken Soup for the Golfer's Soul? Like it's so trying to be a golfer. "I had a terrible day at the country club today, so stressful. I need some chicken soup for my soul." There is also Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover's Soul, and Chicken Soup for the Dog and Cat Lover's Soul. Apparently they couldn't scrounge up enough inspiration for separate dog and cat books. Once someone came into my store and asked for Chicken Soup for the Dental Soul. I can only imagine. Inspiring, witty anecdotes about dental hygienists overcoming their respective tumors or whatever." I didn't get her permission to quote any of the above so hopefully she doesn't see fit to scourge me or anything. Now, if I can just get around to meeting the other New Yorkers who win my heart with their murmurings of, "I have a problem with Ben & Jerrys too - its called MY FAT ASS." Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Laura "meeting all your Laura Llew needs since 1977" * Cheer courtsey of Rob Brennan and Ben & Jerrys quote courtsey of Brian Winters. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Thu Apr 18 08:50:47 2002 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 08:50:47 Subject: Sinister: About the sinister x-mas exchange-thingy.. Message-ID: <294934424@spray.se> Hey! Something I've been thinking of quite a while is that I was signed up for two presents, sent away two presents, but got one present. Even though it was kittenmittens from Miss Lindsey Baker and there were TWO mittens, two pressies.. I am just curious who the other person was, or if there was some sort of misunderstanding. I won't get mad or anything, I'm just dead curious.. I am myself the laziest and slowest person ever, so whoever you are, if there actually is someone, do not worry.. Speaking about other stuff, when I was in a fancy designstore yesterday a cute boy at the counter said that he loved my russian dolls-bag, and asked me if i went to the gig. It was very strange, not exactly the place to look for B&S-fans.. hm.. I might have to lurk around there.. Tonight my sister and my dad is going to compete in the parent-child-edtion of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire. I want to be a millionaire, so I really hope they get through.. EEeeeeeek! ALso, it is my sister's birthday today, she's 20, so hipp hipp hurrah for her! Love, Astrid x _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Tävla och vinn med nya Coca-Cola Light i årets roligaste Quiz! http://quiz.spray.se/cocacola +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marisa_privitera at xxx.com Thu Apr 18 18:00:51 2002 From: marisa_privitera at xxx.com (Marisa Privitera) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: debut...well, sort of Message-ID: <20020418170051.2143.qmail@web14007.mail.yahoo.com> In response to Laura's: "I always wonder how confusing it is for newcomers to the list to become assimilated with all the inside jokes and references that sinister members seem to bat around with ease." Well, I like to think of it as if I were in a room with people who's language I knew well enough to get every other word. Its requires a lot of smiling and nodding. Then slowly, the longer your there, the more you get it. One thing I still can't though, is what is all the fuss about Mr. Chu...is he the new alpha male? Sorry Ken, I just don't get it. Speaking of Newbies. I realized I never really introduced myself. I've been on the list off and on since last year. I have to admit reading all the posts has been a bit like heroin. It was single handedly responsible for destroying my productivity at work . Well okay, so I wasn't that productive to begin with...but still, I had to get clean and stay off for a while. Now, as you can see, I'm shamelessly off the wagon. I'll be better this time and not lurk so much though. Promise. xo, marisa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ann_septimus at xxx.com Thu Apr 18 23:44:05 2002 From: ann_septimus at xxx.com (Salako *) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:44:05 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Out of the nursery and into the mainline Message-ID: Hey everybody! I just got out of the nursery the other day, and so this probably isn't even going to hit the mailing list because I am an idiot and don't really know how to post yet, but I'll give it a shot. As I am a newbie, in answer to Laura's question... I'm learning fast, but still am thrown by a few of the jokes. Ken, please explain yourself and your cult to me... I'd love to get in on this :P. The song "There's Chu much love" was fab, though. In the movie(and book) High Fidelity, John Cusack asks "am I miserable because I listen to pop music, or listen to it because I am miserable?" or something like that. My query: have I become more of a ballsy outsider because I listen to Belle & Seb, or do I listen to them because I am one? Yesterday I flipped off a group of the biggest most powerful jocks in my High School... could not believe it until after it happened... I think it's because I listen to "Expectations" and "Lord Anthony". Or am I just a sad loser looking for trouble? They were beating up on a retarded kid, though. Well, This is my experimental post to the Sinister list. Hope all enjoyed my little ravings :P. I am so insanely jealous of anyone who has actually gotten to go to even one B&S gig, though... they just don't play the West Coast, and when they did... all the planes were down from Sept 11... good luck,eh? Ishka bibl! Ann _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sophiakatrina at xxx.com Fri Apr 19 03:47:08 2002 From: sophiakatrina at xxx.com (sophia katrina) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 02:47:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: i miss my retard fringe Message-ID: Hey Sinister, My thanks to the benevolent soul who posted that link to the onion page... Oh, how i laughed... During my halcyon days at art school (a whole ten months ago), I had the Funniest Cartoon in the World Ever pinned to my wall. It was from some godawful teen magazine - possibly J17, or More, or Sugar, or whatever young people read these days, who knows, and it had been drawn by a self-confessed art boy from the magazine's art department. He had the art boy circa 1998 down to a t: NHS glasses, the haircut that looked like it had been executed by a mental patient (I knew someone at college who once told me that this was teh very look he was aiming for), the bodywarmer, the record bag containing everything but records... and each item had a humorous caption. I can only remember two: "Flared corduroy trousers, to enhance the art-boy's snake-hipped silhouette and camouflage fat ankles". and "Trainers, worn in the retro-futuristic style. Handy for quick escapes from 'situations' with fellow art boy mobs". Tragically, I lost the cartoon when I moved house. A tape of Lou Barlow songs for anyone who can send me a copy... love as always Sophia X PS Last night, at 3:30 in the morning, a friend and I emerged from a bar to find maybe 50 people, all dressed like the Strokes, dancing to soul music on a car stereo. I think Melbourne may be hipper than I had previously suspected. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Fri Apr 19 13:25:05 2002 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 12:25:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Black Ken White Chunite Message-ID: I liked how the lovely Laura Llew commented on inside jokes, then promptly name-dropped 5 (plus a few more I'd no doubt missed) sinisters during her post. I've never been one to get inside jokes, the getting inside part is hard enough before even the joke bit. Then the ever marvellous Marisa Privitera said: >>Ken, I just don't get it.<< Making me sound like Fermat's Last Theorem, or the mystery of the Bermuda Triangle. And then I've been asked to "explain myself" by the adorable Ann Salako. Which got me all wondering "shit, what have I done?" The last time I'd been asked to explain myself was when I did something very, very bad, and my friend had to asked me to explain why I chose Chicken Pasta rather than Steak in a restaurant. I don't really know why people like to mention me a lot, it's probably because I have a stupid name that people like to make fun of. Then some people described this fact that I have a funny(?) name as a "cult". It's a bit of a crap cult isn't it? Aren't leaders of a cult meant to get like, riches, and promiscious sex with cult follower girls*? Yet I still have to beg to get a bloody crush vote, which they then take back to give to tall boys with indie glasses and musical knowledge, who can tell great inside jokes, or just jokes. Not that I mind. If I get pissed off by people saying nice things with my name in it in their e-mails, or if I get enraged by girls writing lovely parodies of songs about me, I would have left the list by now, and probably would have written a grate big letter saying how the list isn't as good as it was, or how I'd grown out of this. And then I'd join some mailing forum for old people. ANYWAY, back to the main points of this e-mail: Astrid was "hinting" about not yet getting her outstanding x-mas exchange present, which made me feel guilty because there's still one of the presents for this year that I have yet to send and (oh dear!) two of the presents for er..last year's! That's a year and 4 months late, oh I'mbadI'mbadI'mbadI'mbad but I will send them soon I promise. But Astrid, sorry I'm not your exchange partner, so there must still be another naughty christmas exchanger out there somewhere!! Woo this e-mail almost sounded as if I was ranting, next I'll start using words like "Fuck". Inside Jokes and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Now that ALL of the B&S Treasure Hunt trophies have been found, I wonder if the answers to the Treasure Hunt clues will be revealed any time soon. footnote: * It's not too late to start _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carmellie at xxx.com Fri Apr 19 16:39:53 2002 From: carmellie at xxx.com (Carmellie) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 08:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: simple text In-Reply-To: <200204191535.g3JFZq802606@crockery.org> Message-ID: <20020419153953.25411.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> This is going to look like a forwarded message because it didn't go through the first time and I'm copying it from the error message I got....sorry! Hey Ann and welcome! > < because I listen to pop music, or listen to it because I am miserable?" or > something like that. My query: have I become more of a ballsy outsider > because I listen to Belle & Seb, or do I listen to them because I am one? >> > > You know, I was asking myself that question just yesterday. A lot of people ask me why I listen to such "depressing" music--well, I don't find it depressing. Have I just warped myself into thinking that it's somehow uplifting, even though the lyrics and sometimes music sounds really dire, or am I just a "depressed" person, so everything sounds less pitiful than me? I don't know. it's an interesting question. It's like, what came first, the chicken or the egg? I got nothin'. > > < High School... could not believe it until after it happened... I think it's > because I listen to "Expectations" and "Lord Anthony". Or am I just a sad > loser looking for trouble? They were beating up on a retarded kid, though.>> > > What an arse. I can't believe people still do things like that--beat up on kids to exhibit their *dominance* over other people....it's just sad. > > > Exciting thing for me! My friend made me a Looper cd out of the blue and she didn't know that it was an ex-B&S member. And the cd is black on the back! Has anyone seen these things? it's pretty cool looking. > > Well, I'm off for now! Hooray for Friday! > > Carmel ===== "finally there is clarity: this tiny life is making sense" --Death Cab for Cutie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From professorpaulo at xxx.uk Fri Apr 19 17:41:35 2002 From: professorpaulo at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Field?=) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 17:41:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: One man and his picnic? Message-ID: <20020419164135.80518.qmail@web20607.mail.yahoo.com> On this date in history, Paul Field, ignoring the sword and resisting the pen, struck a new deal with his keyboard Well, I am crawling out from under my shell just to point out the the london sinister maseev hasn’t had a picnic since the Dmitra birthday celebrations which was a month or so ago, so there should be another one soon, right? There were rumours of a brighton event once again, but that seems to have been pure speculation. So, I hereby announce at short notice – London picnic, primrose hill, 27th April. OK kids? Good. Oh, 2pm or thereabouts. You all know the routine by now, don’t you? I know it’s not going to suit everybody but no date will. So it’s then. Sorry if you can’t make it. But it is the weekend after ATP, and I am not going there so I will be wanting to catch up on all of the gossip and scandals and find out what everybody’s new nickname will be. By the way, does this actually mean I have to be a picnic daddy? I don’t think it’s a good idea. I might not be there till 4pm myself as I am lazy. And call me strange, but I really don’t want to give my mobile phone number out to the world. Not that I don’t trust you, of course not! Also I quit smoking yesterday so I am likely to be too grumpy to organise things. OK, I will just come out and ask – does anybody else fancy taking the reigns for this one? Go on, be a darling. Yep. That did actually take 15 minutes. I have withdrawal shakes. Tatty-bye. Paul. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Fri Apr 19 16:01:15 2002 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:01:15 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: Sinister: this ain't commercialised hip hop or indie pop/this ain't the mashed potato/this ain't the lindyhop Message-ID: i went to probably the best gig of my life on wednesday - i know, shocking that it WASN'T belle & sebastian, but there you go. it was actually BUCK 65, godlike 'emo-hop' poet and cute with it. this man is a big-hearted, ridiculously humble, virtuoso performer. he already makes me laugh, cry and tingle pleasantly on record, but live he just took my emotions, flung them in a tumble dryer, put them through a wringer for good measure and then hung them out on the line. and yet he could be so endearingly banal too: 'food/it puts me in a good mood/bacon, lasagne, asparagus, carrots, potatoes, waffles' etc. i'm going to see my other hero jim white on 12 may, but can't imagine even him topping buck. sorry, i'll stop gushing now. (http://www.buck65.com) i read that admittedly hilarious onion article a few days ago, and it set me to thinking... is there really anyone on sinister who actively seeks to be included in an obvious clique/subculture (as defined by dress/musical taste mainly)? i can't think of anything worse. as it is it's a constant battle not to be defined as TWEE because i like belle&sebastian, le petit prince, milly molly mandy, ghost world, the princess bride etc etc. of course i want to find like-minded people and be accepted (why would i be HERE otherwise), but the appeal of deliberately *dressing* in a recognisably 'indie' or 'emo' or 'goth' style completely escapes me. like sophia's melbourne, brighton frequently spews out strokes-alikes, and i can't help despising them. i'm sorry. maybe i am getting OLD? the older i get the more life starts to make sense and the less i care - haiku by... buck 65! i'm sorry i don't have anything else to say that isn't in some way buck-related. luv archel xxx ps. ooh, i also saw electrelane on sunday and they flipping rocked too. it's about time someone brought a bit of genuine cool and dignity back to 'girl' bands... ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Starfishkeyring at xxx.com Fri Apr 19 18:11:30 2002 From: Starfishkeyring at xxx.com (Starfishkeyring at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 13:11:30 EDT Subject: Sinister: Ever so nice to meet you all *bows* Message-ID: <98.2486eada.29f1a9c2@aol.com> Hello fellow B&S fans, may I just say how nice it is to be released from the Nursery? Big thank you to the brave people who asked about Ken Chu and other Sinister exclusives :) I'm too much of a scaredy-dog (in my experience, cats are much braver than their canine brothers) to ask questions myself :) Quick introduction, I'm Hazel, 15, Wirral, UK, comma obsessed ;). I joined up after seeing B&S in Manchester (my second exposure :) ) and after making it through the whole event without having anybody spill their cup of tea on me I decided to sign up and meet the Fans :) I was slightly twitchy at first about being put in the nursery thingy, but I'm pleased that I was now as I would have almost certainly said/done something stupid had I not been forced to read for a bit. Oh master of the e-group, I salute you :) Am sitting munching on frozen sweetcorn, I cannot begin to explain how nice this is, I guess it's just a me-thing (oddly enough, it isn't considered good table manners to eat frozen vegetables). Awwh well, I promised my Drama teacher last year that I would do something to change the world for the better, maybe I can make frozen sweetcorn widely accepted cuisine. Holy Cow I think I've ranted far too long, I need to leave this darkened room and re-join my village (which is at present missing it's' idiot). Taataa for now Hazel x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elf-angel at xxx.com Fri Apr 19 11:11:01 2002 From: elf-angel at xxx.com (Bron) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 05:11:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: stories that go nowhere Message-ID: <7C1E85AE52C653F42BF98C75A2823046@elf-angel.wildmail.com> dear sinister i've run out of cabernet and am feelin quite sober on this cooler midwestern afternoon. a couple friends and i meandered up to lake michigan hoping that perhaps as the day somer- saulted on by the wind would take a breather and let us run freely, flinging our arms in helicopters of liberation. but no. the wind protested in chilly violence that it would stay put. so instead of running around in over- exaggerated leaps of youth, we laid out our towels and blankets, zipped up our cardigans, and fell asleep for minutes on end. it wasn't exactly "fun in the sun" (at least it was sunny), but it made do...we got off campus, that was the point. the heated sand sifted in and out of my toes like a good massage. the message of the less-than-motivated waves of the lake let me know that it's fine. 'it' was not exactly defined, but 'it' was fine. and i nodded with squinted blue eyes of lazy fatigue. that's all i wanted to say. ---your mountain mama sweetheart X "The differences between what you hope for and what you end up receiving are part of what makes the outside, the hoped for, worthwhile...and beautiful." ---the Lovely Lou http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mary_goodshoes at xxx.com Sat Apr 20 10:52:20 2002 From: mary_goodshoes at xxx.com (Miss Marianna Longmire) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 10:52:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: no more rhymes now i mean it! Message-ID: Anybody wanna peanut? Sweet, sweet Andre the Giant. Who is, incidentally, running around the corrirors of the Middlesex Hospital in London. Walking down Tottenham Court Road after work yesterday, I saw an elderly man cycling along one of those marvellous old push bikes. He was wearing a tweed jacket complete with leather patches on the elbows and, most pleasantly, he had a spinning carnival flower on the handlebars that was spinning in the breeze. It was the most beautiful sight I had seen all day and it made me smile. As did those lovely chaps from Sodastream who were recently playing in London. I saw them once, despite being at all three gigs. Damn those alcoholic beverages. So yeas, Sodastream. Were. good. Great in fact. It had been such a long time since I saw them last; I was filled with a strange sense of surrealism as Karl's voice transported me back to Perth. Standing there in the Spitz, I thought I was in the cosy surrounds of the Grosvenor front room with my chums of old, marvelling at the band's brilliance and discussing whether or not Perth had the greatest local bands in the country. The consensus? Yes. Now however, Jebediah, Red Jezebel and Team Jedi aren't rocking my lace socks quite as much as they once did. Bless. Sodastream, on the other hand, inspire me to get all giggly and chat to them drunkenly after the show. Apologies. About a month ago, I moved into a new abode. I like it. Lots. I like the fact there is a chap who lives upstairs and blasts music out of his windows every weekend from 8 in the morning. And surprisingly it's not irritating. Well, not yet. You see, it's an odd assortment of music from '60s soul to S Club &. A few weeks ago on a spectacularly warm Sunday morning, I was walking along the road towards my house and Percy Sledge was his artist of choice. The rays of the sun were streaming down on the footpath and the kids were out palying in the streets - the boys were having a kick about, the girls jumping rope as their braids bounced about. It was a strange moment of joy and for the first time, I felt like London was home. My mood however soon soured as he began playing Annie Lennox. Curses. Faith has been restored though, as the other week saw him playing a collection of Destiny's Child's greatest hits - Jumpin' Jumpin', Survivor, Nasty Girl, Say My Name etc. Bootietastic. There was some talk a while ago about Spearmint. They're playing again on Monday at the Borderline in London. With Saloon. Yay! Spearmint are grand, adn Shirely has a sexellent array of stripey jumpers. Mmm. xx Marianna Ooh, I forgt to mention that Mao is THE GREATEST CARD GAME EVER! _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kissingbelle at xxx.com Sat Apr 20 17:35:01 2002 From: kissingbelle at xxx.com (Belle The Confused Dog) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 16:35:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Life is getting smaller but love is growing bigger Message-ID: It is very strange but I think things are getting smaller these days. The whole house is shrinking, the garden and even the girl. The table is so much shorter. When the girl used to put things onto it I couldn't see them at all. Now it is so much easier. And if I really try I can sometimes even take them from the table. I don't try too often because it makes the girl quite angry and that makes me quite sad. That isn't the only thing that is strange. Lately I have been thinking about love. Love is very strange. Recently, the girl with the chocolates who normally lives with my Ali came to stay again.! It was so great except for the fact that she didn't bring any photos of my Ali or chocolate this time. In case you didn't know Ali is the love of my life. Except I haven't in even met him. Well I was in love with him that is. But then I fell in love with someone else. It all happened on Sunday. Some people came to see me and the girl and the other girl. One of them was the boy who used to live here, and another girl, and one of them was a person I have met before and often licked, and finally there was the boy, another boy, who although I had seen before didn't remember. I think I had definitely seen him before because he said "nice to see you again belle" and the girl said I had seen him once before and she doesn't usually lie to me. At least not often. Sometimes she pretends to have something in her hand so I will come and talk to her. She Says "what is it belle? what is it?" And I go to try to guess. Then she laughs at me and says "nothing you fool!" Its not very funny if you ask me. This time I don't think she was lying though, because I think I met this boy when I was young, too young to fall in love. Now I'm older I saw him a whole new light and wanted to kiss him all of the time. That afternoon we watched the video of the boy who the girl is in love with. He is also in the band that makes me a little bit famous. The girl hasn't even met him really. Its sort of like I used to be with Ali. When she is older she will understand that she isn't really in love with him even if he is very handsome. The girl and the girl who didn't have the chocolates swooned ever so slightly at the video. I ran around and tried to get the attention of the boy I had met before but didn't remember. Later on he played the guitar and sang� it wasn't even scary like when the girl does it. I swooned ever so slightly. The next day I went with my old boy and his new girl on a little holiday. There I met Hamish. A small dog but very handsome. I looked into to his eyes. He wagged his tail. That's when I discovered true love! Love is, indeed, very strange. Love and Kisses, Belle xx _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Sun Apr 21 05:31:01 2002 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 23:31:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: don't forget the flowers Message-ID: <2FECA9E90A0A90B4B8F36C1C0C736B85@chinacat81.wildmail.com> it doesn't seem to me that a person who doesn't want attention should dress like a clown and drive around in a yellow volkswagon with "PINGO" vanity plates. in a fit of silliness, i waved gleefully and made a gruesome face, expecting pingo to wave back, and maybe squirt water from the flower pinned to her lapel. instead, she scowled at me, mouthed something, then floored it and cut me off, narrowly missing my fender. there's nothing funny about road rage. it was sort of like the time that amish guy gave me the bird out the window of his buggy. it just seemed to throw everything off, somehow. nothing much happens around here. i sit for hours in booth twenty nine. sometimes i take part in The Greasy Spoon Jeopardy Challenge, which might sound mildly exciting but is really nothing more than a couple of weathered old roofers, a middle-aged fry cook, and yours truly, sitting around a formica-topped table and shouting out questions (answers). you know how it goes. the cook tells me i'm his best customer. "ya know," he mutters through a cloud of smoke, "ya really are. all these old farts gotta have everything just so. but not you." this is untrue, as i certainly do have to have things just so. it's just an easy sort of "so." black coffee (no need for a spoon) and ice water, which i never actually drink but always order anyway. "see that one over there?" he gestures somewhat discreetly with his sooty thumb. "that's lorraine. she's gotta have Egg Beaters and diabetic syrup, half decaf and half regular, and no ice in her water. extra napkins. if you fuck it up, you hear about it." i look at lorraine. she looks like she's been rolled in flour. there is a smear of matte red revlon where her lips used to be, and her feet look like two fat yams shoved into moonboots. she's attacking her scrambled Egg Beaters as if she has to hurry and eat them before they start eating her. it's easy to tell that she learned to smoke through careful observation of glamorous old movie stars. she looks sort of beautiful that way, perched there on the little chrome stool like an orange balancing precariously on a spool of thread. is it worse to be a depressed clown or a mime with something really important to say? also, i was wondering...when the first identical twins were born, what did people think? when TWO of them came out, and they looked exactly the same? and what can you make of a powdery old woman who wears moonboots and has a crepey neck and watery eyes and still manages to remind you of audrey hepburn? (assume that you love audrey hepburn.) and finally, a question that has puzzled me since fourth grade, when i read it in a paperback joke book that i hid under my bed so that my mom wouldn't know i'd spent my book club money on a joke book instead of on something like 'anne of green gables' or 'five little peppers and how they grew' or another selection that didn't have a drawing of a guy with his finger up his nose on the front cover: if a tree falls in the forest and crushes a mime, and nobody's around to hear it, does anyone care? love kirsten http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Sun Apr 21 20:41:15 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 20:41:15 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: smallest post ever Message-ID: <20020421194115.71095.qmail@web14402.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, read a description of B&S today that said "they're like air escaping from a bouncy castle". what does this mean? Dean XX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fbrito at xxx.br Sun Apr 21 23:37:53 2002 From: fbrito at xxx.br (Fernando Brito) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 19:37:53 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Mr. Savage! Message-ID: Every time I start reading a book the first thing I do is open its last page and read its last phrase. Of course it never makes any sense. But I think it's inciting, like a skein, I have one end in my hand but I can only get to the other one if I am dedicated enough to uncoil it! One day I got this book, which I admit I stole from my school's library, and there was the most intriguing last phrase I've ever read: "Slowly, very slowly, like two unhurried compass needles, the feet turned towards the right; north, north-east, east, south-east, south, south-south-west; then paused, and, after a few seconds, turned as unhurriedly back towards the left. South-south-west, south, south-east, east." Reading Ken's last post reminded me that book... Ken's self explanation (and you, sinister witnesses, would better save it, for one day it will be like the Dead Sea Scrolls, and your grandchildren will thank you for the fortune they got by selling it to the Natural Sciences Museum or whatever it's called where you live, and move your bones to a better grave!) shows that this whole situation is so out of his control that, (un)fortunately, there's nothing else he can do. Unless he gets as desperate as Mr. John "Savage" and take an extreme attitude, what would surely soothe his suffering, but also spread the cult even more, to a point where the current Roman Empire will have to step in and chase his followers like the Sinister Mailing List was called Al Qaeda! So if I were you, Mr. Chu, I would patent the Ken Chu trade mark. You might not get millionaire (what I resolutely doubt), but your children or grandchildren certainly will. And if this list had, legaly speaking, the same authority it has regarding to emotional affairs, I would like to declare that I am not writing this with the hidden intention of, in the near future, when you are rich, suing you for not paying me for this idea I am now giving you. It's purely a friendly gesture, from sinister to sinister. And please don't think my Brave New World quote is some kind of advice or anything! In our miserable old world there's still a lot of places where you could hide. Remember Ronnie Biggs?! Yesterday I had my first Dogma 95 experience (caramba! 7 years, it was more than time!), the lovely danish film "Italian for Beginners". I really like romantic comedies, like this one, or like those with Meg Ryan! I like any non typical american movie, those in which there's always the good and the bad ones. I like when everyone is good, and everything is joyful and everyone is happy in spite of their troubles... Alas! I like twee movies! The previous twee movie I saw was Amelie Poulin, a very good movie as well! Up to now I'm still trying to find and buy a red All Star (if you saw the movie you'll understand, if you didn't you're a fool), and believe me, I can't find a red All Star sized 42 (brazilian standard) in this huge city I live! They always tell me the same: "They only bring one pair of that size each time they come". It's been so long since I started my search that the last time I've been to a store I had no choice but to buy an Adidas... but I'm not giving up, I WANT MY RED ALL STAR!!! I would ask someone to help me and buy the sneakers, here it costs about 12 dollars or 15 euros, is it cheap? Anyway, I can't give you my address... I'm moving!! Possibly next week! My roomie asked me to leave! Not really, actually it's been a couple of months since I told him I was thinking about moving to somewhere else, and he asked me some time to find someone to replace me. Last week he found my substitute, and she (the substitute) has to move as soon as possible, so now I have to hurry and find another flat. In fact I've already found it, a good one, only three blocks from work, with an extra room where I I'll put my drums, when I buy it! I'm just waiting for my new roomie to see and aprove it, but he is kardecist and every weekend he has to go to his parents town and take part in his religion rituals, which involve the incorporation of spirits by some people called mediums. Anyway, he will only see the new flat next week, and I hope it's still available if he aprove it. Once more I'm leaving... I was born and lived in a tiny town until I was 18, but since then I've never been more than 3 years in the same place. And here I go again... Bad news... I'm not going to see Charlatans next Monday. I'm working on that night... could they have chosen a worse day for a gig?! I hope I can see Stephen Malkmus, I have a pair of tickets and I hope I'll find a way to go to both gigs, but I'm not so sure, as I have this damn project to finish, which was supposed to be delivered last Thursday, but now I have no idea when we'll finish it. I think I'd better stop making plans for a while. This past week was kinda like an Ally McBeal episode in my work place. There was a huge leak in the girls' toilets and we had to share the boys' restroom with the girls. Not that great, girls and boys together were not allowed, the only difference was that we had to lift the toilets' covers to use them! More about working... last week I put an adhesive stamp with the IYFS cover on my computer at work. It's weird how people's reaction is almost the same. Everyone that sees it says more or less the same: "Belle and Sebastian?". I stare at them, waiting for some opinion, or any reaction, but that's all, they just say "Belle and Sebastian?", and keep doing what they were doing. I don't know if they don't want to say anything to avoid a conflict of opinions, or if they'd like to say something like "this band is great, I love'em!" but they're afraid I'll tell someone else that they're a B&S fan! Kisses & hugs, Fernando Brito +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Mon Apr 22 02:14:53 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 02:14:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: this thursday Message-ID: Hello all! Just another reminder that this Thursday is the first night of How Does It Feel To Be Loved? in London. Please support us in our hour of need. We'll be playing loads of stuff from "Storytelling", so if you want to hear it in a club come along! Those details once again... Club name: How Does It Feel To Be Loved? When: April 25th, Buffalo Bars, underneath The Famous Cock pub, outside Highbury & Islington tube 9pm-2am, beer £1.50 until midnight, £3 adm Music played: The Smiths * The Supremes * The Go-Betweens * Dusty Springfield * Belle & Sebastian * Tammi Terrell * Aztec Camera * The Ronettes * Orange Juice * Beach Boys * The Temptations * Velvet Underground * Felt * The Shangri-Las * Primal Scream * Otis Redding * The Field Mice * Magnetic Fields * Dexys Midnight Runners * The Four Tops * Dolly Parton * The Orchids * Simon And Garfunkel Website address: http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk See you Thursday! x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Mon Apr 22 05:22:35 2002 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 23:22:35 -0500 Subject: Sinister: All I need is a pretty song Message-ID: Certain things in life bother me. In fact, a lot of things in life bother me. Of course, this happens to everyone. I was talking with my girlfriend the other day about music. She said she used to rely on music to make her happy, but now she relies more on the interaction between her and other people. This is a good thing, I suppose. The debate about the meaning of music and how important it is has raged on and on for years. But it will never be solved. I knew this when I was talking about it. I knew it before, and I still know it now. I just hate the fact that things can't be solved. I realized it a long time ago, the sort of disillusionment of youth that happens to most everyone who thinks about it enough. It was at this point I turned to art and entertainment to make me feel better. Sort of shallow things perhaps, but why not? Politics is annoying in this way. All the fighting for equal rights, liberalism, conservatism, socialism, all of this seems worthless. It will never work out. We're only human, and as long as a human can do it, he/she will fuck someone over. It's the way we are. In this respect, a perfect government will never work. There are some better than others, but even in the better ones, there are too many problems. They'll never be fixed, so why get angry about it? Why try to change it? It seems useless. However, if everyone thinks in this way, nobody will try to change things anymore. And big changes have occured, but everything seems so pointless to even try anymore. America is so steeped in conservatism, and with all these outside elements (terrorism, etc...), it's going to be even harder to change. It's awfully depressing. This is the old idealist vs. realist thing. I find it harder and harder to be an idealist these days. Same goes for love, which you indie sentimental folk love to talk about. It's all sort of worthless too. How often do relationships really work out? How giving can one person be for so long? You know that someone is going to get tired, and things will fuck up, and there will be bad patches. And eventually, it will end. Marriages that last awhile seem to be rare, and when they do happen, it's usually at the expense of true happiness or dignity on someone's part or something like that. I know that's vague, but whatever. My cyberpunk class this year has bugged me in the same fashion. We read these articles on the ethics of lawnmower man and the feminisation of the male body in Total Recall. But why? What's the point? Why does this matter? What are we learning about? Are we learning about ourselves? I dont' think so. Lawnmower Man and Total Recall are both shitty movies in my opinion. Criticism can be constructive if it points out problems and plusses that will help the filmaker, or the viewer decide if it's worth watching. But detailed shit like that just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make the meaning any greater for me. Oh, so the 13th floor and the Matrix both involve Buidriad's 4 levels of simulation. So? Why is this pertinent to anybody or anything? I took the midterm in there, which was two essays. I thumbed through the articles, making up bullshit that sounded good for the essay. I got tired of it, just stopped, turned it in, and left. I got a 19.5 out of 20. How is this possible? I didn't believe in any of it, yet I still got a good grade. It's bullshit. I don't know. This is why music is important to me. It gets me away. It makes me stop thinking of all this senseless shit that nobody will ever figure out. What makes us human, if there is a God, etc... It's all useless. I'm tired of fighting it. I just want to escape. I'll just go put on "Summer Wasting" and feel a lot better. Sorry if this was long and stupid. I haven't really read over it. Or proofread, or revised my thoughts. It's just an on the fly rant. Feel free to email me and bitch about it, I know I deserve it. -Matt _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From loulouhex at xxx.com Mon Apr 22 05:54:19 2002 From: loulouhex at xxx.com (Vilkas .) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 00:54:19 -0400 Subject: Sinister: From Sneakers To Porn Message-ID: SNEAKER (TRAINER) OBSESSION > SAMBAS ETC. > YAHOO GROUPS > PORN! Hello Kids. I am obsessed with sneakers. What else is as comfortable and as stylish? Nothing! My friend Anda and me were talking and we agreed that no matter what your shoes look like, the one thing that they must be is comfortable enough to either walk very far or run away from the bad guys very quickly if nessacary-i.e. functional-i.e.sneakers. I don't care for the white American sneakers; they're dorky and ugly. I'm the proud owner of fair number of pairs of sneakers, but my fave pair is the grass green neoprenette and suede Adidas skate sneakers with translucent lime green rubber stripes. They're so comfortable, they bounce, and they're bright. I am in love with European and Japanese market sneakers. The colours! The velcro! The inventive use of non-athletic fabrics! So. I've been on the hunt, sneaker pimpin' stylee for: 1. the bright Cereleun Blue Adidas Sambas/Gazelles 2. the pink, furry, Nike Kukini-B's 3. the flowered Puma Flows in any other colour but red I had found the Sambas/Gazelles at a charity shop on the famous Byres road, but they were too funnn-ky for even me. Sombody with stank-ass feet had owned these shoes. I passed on them. I wished I had snapped them up for �4.00. I could have boiled them or something. I saw this guy Thursday night wearing: lemon yellow Samba style suede Addidas with lemon yellow soles and tread! With cobalt blue stripes! They were beautiful. He was not...a wife-beater with BIG trousers combined with his sketchy demeanor makes him look like a dealer at a bad rave maaaaaaaan. But his sneakers were all that. One can only have so many pairs of shoes due to the combination of checking account and apartment size. I couldn't afford zillions of sneakers but I can still look. Online fashion magazines for sneakers are numerous. So; I looked up "Sneakers" on Yahoo groups. I got a few groups that were all about the same thing as me. And then maybe after the fourth group; there was a whole list of sneaker *fetish* sites. Yep. So of course I clicked on the one called "Lads Lust 4 Lads". It was a whole bunch of queer neds! Doin' it through the back door! Wearing shell suits and the like! Wearing puffy, bright white American style sneakers! Ned man-love! Woohoo! It was like the scary, racist, homophobic, delinquents from my neighborhood (Oregon Hill) decided to stop beating up non-whites and decided to start gettin' busy beating each others meat. I guess there are sneaker enthusiasts and sneaker fetishists. Me, I'm the former. Oh but I'm amused by the example of the latter. Go on wit yo (queer-ned-sneaker-wearing) bad self. As an aside; Isn't is odd how hardcore porn is so commonplace in this modern, space age America? It's another popular media form; like a sitcom or a fashion magazine. I'm not talking about that there are dirty magazines and vids; I mean that "Porn Star" is a clothing company, a general cultural reference, a sticker on the back of someone's hoopty, and a tv show theme on loads of tv shows. I don't have a problem with porn. Porn is, as Martha Stewart would say, is a good thing. Well, generally. I just have to ask what next? What will one find raunchy next? What happens when porn is no longer dirty? In the US, I suspect either a healthy repesct for and comfort with the human body or the complete opposite, essentially legal rape, would happen. Beware of desensitisation; it can lead to brain dulling. As an aside to that, I'm just glad to have connected Martha Stewart to porn. And as an aside to that aside; there's this guy I know called Cornell. Me and my friend Holly were spazzing out one night in our local; thinking up crazy-ass names for each other and folks we knew; Holly came up with the best one ever: Softcore Cor-nell-ography. Well at least it makes me laugh. Summary: Ok. I love sneakers cos they're fly and comfortable at the same time; you can bounce and look good at the same time. And I'm glad to see a place where neds and other such young men can learn to truly love each other. Rock On, Ms. Vilkas _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From esme at xxx.com Mon Apr 22 13:03:14 2002 From: esme at xxx.com (ee fumblings) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:03:14 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: haikus revealed // weeks fourfifteen // two thousand and two Message-ID: I have forgotten them all so I will just talk about B&S instead. Tactful. I wasn't in drag, I wasn't even dressed questionably. Will wee stu end up like Compo? It's enough to bring tears to the eyes. All have been very amusing, but not for the right reasons, I'm sure. Speaking of Marks, well done to Big Gay Mark C, on recent employment. A guest in their flat. Anticipating garden parties in summer. First of all, there was the picnic. Which was grate (do people still use that?). OK, fine, but that's not something I do a whole hell of a lot of... ANACHRONISM! Ah no, have forgotten to switch tape player on. Of course! It is the wheat germ cycle. Nothing more. Noting more, I note. Something akin to rambling ingenues playing with wambling engines. Later, my snoring has an overwhelming feel of melancholy. Where the sand came from, I cannot be certain. So many wasted words. I am too young for that. Well, age never really matters about that. I get very close to the stage, which is low and small in any case. Stuart dances like a maniac. Great start to a fantastic gig. I felt loved! Being loved is a great feeling, a bit like eating cheese. Woohoo! :-o Hi to all! I am doing a quick post to share something. Related to this, my stance on music is: I don't like things that suck. I've only managed to see them play out two and a half times before. All their songs sounded so good and so clear yet still ferocious and Wrarrrrr. It was much fun and she is everything you could hope for in a girl. Another day here another day in the house four walls, roof, floor, door. I'd love to get in on this :P. The song "There's Chu much love" was fab, though. Team Jedi aren't rocking my lace socks quite as much as they once did. But then I fell in love with someone else. It all happened on Sunday. I went with my old boy and his new girl on a little holiday. So if I were you, Mr. Chu, I would patent the Ken Chu trade mark. We are truly in a sad state if we need THIS much inspiration. // ee // +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinedavid at xxx.net Mon Apr 22 17:00:08 2002 From: lazylinedavid at xxx.net (lazylinedavid at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:00:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: If You're Sealing Finisterre Message-ID: <6178C1E2.24BB0324.96249DF0@netscape.net> I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this album yet, but you might want to check out the Geographic label's new compilation, 'You Don't Need Darkness to Do What You Think is Right'. There are some magical songs on it, and appearances from Isobel, Stevie and Mick. It has those filthy Mary Chain brothers playing with their sister, a wonderful Future Pilot song that makes you want to clap your hands like a two-year-old, and a new Telstar Ponies song (with Mick on trumpet) which you just don't want to end. But perhaps the best song is 'Me, on the Beach' by a Japanese band whose name I've forgotten. The woman's voice sounds like a gorgeous brass instrument, the backing vocals and harmonies are lush, and the whole thing is like being stroked all over. But not by the Strokes. The whole album sounds like a mix-tape, in the very best sense of the word. And, like all the best label samplers, it's cheap. In other news, I saw a piece on Starsailor on CNN Headline News yesterday afternoon. What the f**k is that all about?? Take care, David __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Mon Apr 22 17:28:17 2002 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:28:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Where do you go when you're lonely?Where do you go when you're bllew? Message-ID: Hello miss sinister, i'm no longer a melodramatic teen,that's right now i am only MELODRAMATIC. There's no noticeable difference yet though except everyone keeps asking what it's like to be just plain old melodramatic,i don't have an answer yet though, what i do have is lots and lots of LAGER which fits in with part 2 of my plan. I know i'm still a wee spring chicken but i always figured that when i got into uni i'd have some sort of plan,maybe even just a quick sketch and then when i got to uni i found out that the only plan i had was to avoid uni as much as possible and i decided i'd put of my plan until i was 20. Now i'm sitting here sans plan so i'm going to make one up right on the spot. Apparently whenever people try to describe me in a very one-dimensional way the word twee always seems to pop up,now i have no qualms with most aspects of tweeness,i do have problems with the one dimensional characterisation however that means i have to be twee and nothing else,because that's just not true, as anyone who has seen me drink tequilla knows. Anyway so my game plan is to drop the tweeness now i'm an OLD MAN and be all RAWK AND ROLL. None of this dannypie nonsense,fuck this shit,from now on it's dannydenim or dannyshag because that's what i'm gonna be all about. especially denim because denim=shagwear or maybe i won't,maybe my gameplan will be to be myself and to avoid uni as much as possible so i can come out with all my fac....... with all my f-a-c-u-l-t-i-e-s intact. i watched a movie called SFW the other day,it's one of those grunge era films where the main character tries a little too hard to be messr. cobain. Anyway i really liked it because it was pulled out of the depths of grunge-era filmmaking byt the inclusion of a nice little media satire. SFW=So fucking what and this guy becomes famous and that's his suitably apathetic grungle slogan. Anyway the really good part is where someone tries to kill the main character because she believes that everything matters and then she gets catapulted into stardom. Then there are a few scenes exactly the same as when the hero was catapulted into stardom except the girl is preaching about how everything matters. I like to believe that everything matters and that everything we do can make a difference and that everything is precious but sometimes i just get hit by a huge bout of apathy that lasts for a few days or sometimes longer. The bouts of apathy scare me,but i guess they're all part and parcel of being someone non-linear. Someone who can be very twee and all RAWK at the same time. Someone who loves to watch amelie but can just easily make do with some trashy horror like scream. Someone who enjoys reading 'classic' novels,teenage-dramas and poirot detective novels. Part and parcel of being me. Take care my little sinisterettes, your mr dannypie xxx _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aadcarmen at xxx.com Mon Apr 22 19:14:49 2002 From: aadcarmen at xxx.com (Carmen Aad) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 19:14:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: If You're Sealing Finisterre Message-ID: Hi List I was in London this weekend and I picked up a flyer that was advertising a night for the label that David was describing below. It sounds quite good and I wish I could go! For those who are interested heres what the flyer says: 93 Feet East, 150 Brick Lane, London "May 1st EAT YOUR OWN EARS vs TRACK AND FIELD ORGANISATION Hall & Gallery Bar 8 - 11pm �8 Eat your own Ears in collaboration with the Track & Field Organisation is proud to present a coming out night for the Geographic label. Geographic In London offers an especially rare opportunity to experience MAHER SHALAL HASH BAZ, the enchanted Japanese pop-psych outfit, led by TORI KUDO, one of the most important figures to have emerged from Tokyo. THE BILL WELLS TRIO, a beautiful expression of the Falkirk-based composer's music. Bill will be joined by long-standing collaborator, ROBERT HENDERSON (trumpet) from Teenage Fanclub and The Pastels respectively, NORMAN BLAKE (guitar and keys) and KATRINA MITCHELL (vocals and perc). Special guests are ex Jesus and Mary Chain founders FREEHEAT playing a live set introducing SISTER VANILLA, who recently debuted on the Geographic compilation. A winning combination." >From: lazylinedavid at xxx.net >Reply-To: lazylinedavid at netscape.net >To: sinister at missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: If You're Sealing Finisterre >Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:00:08 -0400 > >I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this album yet, but you might want to >check out the Geographic label's new compilation, 'You Don't Need Darkness >to Do What You Think is Right'. There are some magical songs on it, and >appearances from Isobel, Stevie and Mick. It has those filthy Mary Chain >brothers playing with their sister, a wonderful Future Pilot song that >makes you want to clap your hands like a two-year-old, and a new Telstar >Ponies song (with Mick on trumpet) which you just don't want to end. But >perhaps the best song is 'Me, on the Beach' by a Japanese band whose name >I've forgotten. The woman's voice sounds like a gorgeous brass instrument, >the backing vocals and harmonies are lush, and the whole thing is like >being stroked all over. But not by the Strokes. The whole album sounds like >a mix-tape, in the very best sense of the word. And, like all the best >label samplers, it's cheap. > >In other news, I saw a piece on Starsailor on CNN Headline News yesterday >afternoon. What the f**k is that all about?? > >Take care, > >David > > >__________________________________________________________________ >Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. >Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop at Netscape! >http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at >http://webmail.netscape.com/ > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Mon Apr 22 19:47:42 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 19:47:42 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: B&S at glasto Message-ID: <20020422184742.43321.qmail@web14403.mail.yahoo.com> Hi people, dunno if this is common knowledge or wot but Belle and Sebastian confirmed for Sunday at glastonbury (I have it on good authority!) If you have heard this (and knowing the manic lengths some of you people will go to gain information - rooting through the bin's at jeepster's offices etc.) then sorry. I'm going to get drunk on tequila now. Bye Dean XXX ps - jaffa cakes. are they cakes or are they biscuits? time for a healthy debate please. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From halighhalou at xxx.com Mon Apr 22 20:57:04 2002 From: halighhalou at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:57:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: lately i'm finding i am the book and you are the binding Message-ID: hello sinister. i've had an odd weekend. looking at the words there next to each other, it occurs to me that the sentence is unoriginal. for me to have an odd weekend is not singular, and in and of itself, not all that interesting, either. but still, i will write on and on and on of oddities and commonalities and hope that somewhere in the act of writing and reading and forgetting, i will remember the feeling of friday night, and the subsequent minutes to come and pass away. is that indie? is that emo? is that rawk? is that apathetic? is that categorical? is that worth caring about? is that me? is it? is it? is it? maybe we do need a pretty song, and so i recommend ben kweller to the list and skip a line to commence something. *** i was supposed to see cursive friday night. i was actually more than a bit jazzed about the show, not only to see the band (which i only really listen to when i get really pissed off thanks to the nature of 'the lament of pretty baby') but also to see the people i knew would be there. ex-boyfriends and indie folk galore, i guess, and i was decked out and ready to roll by the band merchandise table (where i would have undoubtedly purchased a button for the masterpiece bag) and chain smoke my way to a smoke-hazed oblivion of actualized mistakes. i never made it. i chose, unfortunately, to go with some people who will soon be 'smug-marrieds,' who decided that, upon coasting off i-80 into omaha, they needed to go shopping for a loveseat. for an hour and a half we rounded the floor of couches and sofas and chairs at nebraska furniture mart, going back and forth between two identical loveseats save for the different color-schemes in their plaid upholstry fabrics. finally they chose a rather countrified gem in pale blues and reds, with an abnormally high back for what they deemed was 'good back support.' after the shopping reached its heady end, food was next on the to-do list. they wanted sushi. i said all right, even though i'm not a big sushi fan, but i was willing to do whatever it took to get to tim kasher. the wait was too long at sushi ichiban, so i took them to a vietnamese place i quite fancy. at least i had a good dinner, i thought, as i sucked down a parliament in front of the 'sold out' sign on the door to sokol underground an hour later. they wanted to go to a used bookstore downtown called the antiquarium, a heralded hippie hangout of musty books and music and a black and white cat. i said fine, sure, go. it's ok that i'm missing out on the only reason i came home. and so. we went. and there, among the stacks and stacks of dusty boks, came the beginning of the oddness. the antiquarium is one of those places you go to either because you're a hard-core used book reader, you need something sort of hard to find on vinyl or you're trying to be cool. i went out with the lead singer of the band the movies (back when he was solo hit matt whipkey) in high school, and he told me he always took girls to the antiquarium on a first date because it made him look 'intellectual.' in the front corner of the store hangs a white piece of cardboard with the words 'designated smoking area' written in red marker and outlined in black. underneath is a grouping of chairs and tall ashtrays, a coffee table strewn with books and magazines. friday night, people occupied the chairs, smoking and stroking the cat, talking about anthropolgy and anatomy and the subtle differences between being a masseuse and a masseur. i finally found the poetry section, having left the happy couple perusing the religion and cookbook areas, and set to work scouring the shelves for something. and there, fifteen or so feet away from the heavy conversation and suspended layer of smoke, the cat rubbing against and around my ankles, i discovered a section of poetry volumes by my poetry professor. greg kuzma. i picked them off the shelf one by one, and flipped through the pages. 1978. 1988. 1995. greg read us one of his poems last semester, a long ditty called 'getting the dead out.' the title turned out to be the best line of the piece, and i sort of stopped listening halfway through his reading. the poems in the first book i looked at were shorter, older. a hell of a lot better. it was weird, seeing his name on the cover and seeing the differing lengths of each book and poem. trying to, as he always likes to say, feel the words in my mouth. get my teeth and gums around the lines, maybe with the luck of biting into something quite worthy of mulling, chewing. one of the books, a little one containing a single poem titled 'grandmother,' had an autograph. it said: 'to the person i always loved the most -- greg kuzma.' and i was sad, thinking that there, written above the signature i had seen so many times before written on my poetry papers, someone he had loved hadn't treasured the written or the printed words enough to keep them. the penciled price for the book was $4.50, and i didn't buy it. it wasn't mine, and i didn't think i could ever try to imagine myself to be the one greg always loved the most. or. rather. maybe i wondered if i could ever be the one anyone always loved the most. i slipped the book back between the other yellowed copies, and stood there, looking sideways at the spines of all the books together, all the names of people who do what i do. who sit down in a room somewhere and watch everything fall away save for a pen and paper. i was filled with an overwhelming sense of longing, for someone and something i could only half-define. i don't know now if i would have been happier with the ex-boyfriends and pseudo-indie friends and grinding bitterness of cursive. i don't know if i was happy with greg's cursive signature and the obligation of riding back with a happily/overly christian couple. i wanted something. i wanted a name. i wanted a boy. i wanted the passing of time to accelerate for a while. i wanted to sit with the graying hippies and smoke for a bit, petting the cat and saying i, too, knew much about the nervous system. i wanted the person greg loved the most to have that book back, on their shelf, to have a story worth talking about. *** matthew said this: Same goes for love, which you indie sentimental folk love to talk about. It's all sort of worthless too. How often do relationships really work out? How giving can one person be for so long? You know that someone is going to get tired, and things will fuck up, and there will be bad patches. And eventually, it will end. Marriages that last awhile seem to be rare, and when they do happen, it's usually at the expense of true happiness or dignity on someone's part or something like that. I know that's vague, but whatever. i have two songs to reference for this, first, before i throw out my indie-tastic two cents. 1. "we've been waiting all year for someone to just say, 'everyone fucks up, it's going to be ok.'" -- rilo kiley 2. "son, love is a punch in the eye. it's a sudden and swift surprise. it's not a candle, not waiting to burn. so baby, just wait your turn. and when it hits you, you'll see, through rose-colored apathy, through the blues that bruise can leave...was it really worth the wait?" -- the good life (tim kasher rears his head again! why? why did i miss him?) goodness, apathy seems to be winning out these days on matters of love and life and everything else. i would like to think that love, in its purest and truest form, will only further qualify my sense of self and dignity and happiness. not because someone else supplies me with false senses of inner-worth, but because i will finally realize that, when i love, the time spent believing love to be elusive and short-lived at best has really been a grand self-delusion. how will we ever be able to love if we don't believe it's worth the while it lasts? and if love is worthless why the hell am i wasting time on things i love? maybe i am one of the century of fakers, and i really love nothing but myself, or the image of myself i create at night when i'm lying in my bed, trying desperately to not be afraid, to breathe. but if i love me, and love is worthless, maybe that means i am worthless, too. ahhhhh. indie sentiments. i "love" them. songs rise and fall, just as people do. let the movement of air through your lungs match the pacing of chords, then, i guess, but question the depth of your lyrical understanding if you have never known or believed in love. we fall in love with songs because of the personal history we bring to the music, not because the music supplies us with artificial emotion. danny said this: "I like to believe that everything matters and that everything we do can make a difference and that everything is precious but sometimes i just get hit by a huge bout of apathy that lasts for a few days or sometimes longer. The bouts of apathy scare me,but i guess they're all part and parcel of being someone non-linear. Someone who can be very twee and all RAWK at the same time. Someone who loves to watch amelie but can just easily make do with some trashy horror like scream. Someone who enjoys reading 'classic' novels,teenage-dramas and poirot detective novels. Part and parcel of being me." this is why people fall in love with danny, and why it's worth it and, whether he believes it or not, why it lasts. see songs referenced above. we all long for something. something vague and specific and neatly categorized into such evil slots as 'love' or 'acceptance' or 'truth' or 'companionship.' i will take all of the above, please, even if they're all as worthless as greg kuzma's autograph, a trip to a sold-out show, a difference in plaids. even if they're all as worthless as me. xxx love, lou _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elf-angel at xxx.com Mon Apr 22 11:01:07 2002 From: elf-angel at xxx.com (Bron) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 05:01:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: my longest post yet: missing children and the good lord below Message-ID: <9A33829BD664A9A4FAA48A3206ECB156@elf-angel.wildmail.com> dear sinister my day so far has gone from normal to different events and perhaps all these events are truly mundane but for some beautiful reason my mind has likened to the habit of turning common events into romantic idealisms and destperate cries for help muffled in pure desire to survive in a shallow world of hello's and good-bye's. i woke up to the anticipated beeping of my alarm across the room, walked over to it and as i clicked the "off" switch i heard my lips whisper, "goddamn". i remembered as soon as i heard myself utter this word that i had just been to the candle-light service at church not even 12 hours before that. monday started and i was already a sinner...all at quarter to 7 in the morning. i showered in half-conciousness and threw on some clothes, my backpack, and jammed my headphones into my ears. as i started out on my 15-minute stroll to my 8 a.m. class, beth orton wailed something about how my eyes were cinnamon...it was just then that i opened my eyes for the first time and saw the gray sky lift all the green from the lawns on campus up in laud and honor. the sun wasn't shining at all, but the earth seemed to be aware of all the warmth that lied beneath it. i arrived at class on time, but the professor never showed. i felt like a third-grader again, as if it were a friday and it was my birthday and the clock had just struck 2:50 in the afternoon. when i realized the professor wasn't coming, i found it ironic how much more awake i became. my next class started an hour and a half later. i was to give a presentation with my group on computers and their history. if you're looking for a subject to present that sounds like it could be interesting but when you get down to it is one of the most mundane to hear about, talk about computers and their development. my focus was the 1960's and 1970's. the girl before me, speaking from 1945-1959, was simply dragging herself through her part of the presentation and as the class was trying to decide whether or not to even try to give a damn, i heard thoughts run back and forth in my head---like restless rowdy children---all of them laughing and screaming, "1959! quick! hurry! aw man, you're still talking about 1946! c'mon 1959!" and when she finally said, "then in 1959...", all the thoughts of my mischievous id yelled in unison, "Thank God for 1959!" and i lost it. i just burst out in laughter. loud and uncontrolled laughter. it took me a whole minute to apologize up and down and compose myself. i was next to present afterall. the laughter isn't completely my fault. it's who i am. when i was 7 years old i used to be sent out in the hallway at school for laughing in class---untamed laughter that came from nowhere-- -nothing was funny---but the punishment seemed even funnier. picture yourself walking down a long hallway of an elementary school in the mountains of north carolina---none of this inner- city shit---and at the end of the hall is this little girl sitting outside a closed doorway, laughing nonstop for 10 minutes. ...yeah...it's just who i am. so after my presentation in class i went to the union for a jalapeno cheese bagel and a cup of rasberry yogurt. i returned to my apartment and sat at my desk to begin brainstorming for my china research paper due this thursday. you don't have to be a genius to bullshit, but i've found that even this genius has procrastinated too long to reap what could have been some exceptional fruit. i think it's just another one of those lessons that i need to ponder and realize is a lesson to learn from before i find that i've become an irresponsible adult---or before i find that i've become an adult period. (is this still adolescence? am i still in the same category as a 12 year old even at age 21?) maybe. well, no. aw fuck if i know. proceeding... i called laura up and asked how her trip to boston went this weekend, how things went with the boy in boston. the conversation made me sleepy, at one point i even closed my eyes. she was sick with a stomach ache the whole time. her delirium was still at high tide and her voice traversed through the curly phone cord like a slowly restricting boa constrictor around my neck. my breathing slowed and her creeping voice lulled into a lullabye. i tried to respond as much as i could to reassure her i was still listening. she was telling me of rain and messes and naps and more messes and more rain. when she finished, i told her to have a good day. we hung up and i laid on my simple bed for a 20-minute cat-nap of dreams of sunnier days and all the vines my heart will swing from when my friend comes and visits me next week on his way to montana. not too much longer thereafter, i went to work, where i'm at now actually, and to my surprise i was sent to wash dishes. i went from professor's student aide to dishwasher. it was a switch i suppose. there had been a luncheon and somebody forgot the fact that paper plates are available at the local grocery store. oh well. we saved a tree...i think. after the dishes were washed i was allowed to go back to the usual---the dreaded---work i'm usually assigned. i made about a million copies with colored paper. the secretaries in the next room were speaking in low voices of aggravation and gossip about the higher-ups. they despised my presence just as they would have anybody's at the time but hey i was just doin my job, ladies. usually the copier machine is the Bitch of the Year---as i'm sure if any of you have ever done office work you know this is always the case. but this time around, i knew i had a million copies to make and knew that if anything fucked up i'd have to ask for assistance from the jealousy-ridden secretaries in the next room. so i took a deep breath in and exhaled quietly from partially separated lips. i put both hands on the machine and practiced zazen. over and over i repeated the thought, "be one with the machine..." i made sure that the machine took after me though, and that i did not blend into its qualities. the work was done beautifully and once again, zen saved the day. peace and love ---your mountain mama sweetheart X "The differences between what you hope for and what you end up receiving are part of what makes the outside, the hoped for, worthwhile...and beautiful." ---the Lovely Lou http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smittenkitten79 at xxx.net Tue Apr 23 04:08:28 2002 From: smittenkitten79 at xxx.net (Elizabeth) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:08:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: first post Message-ID: <002001c1ea74$253571d0$7713be3f@ourcompy> Hi everyone, I guess that it's time to put my shyness behind me and introduce myself to all of you lovelies. My name is Elizabeth, and I've been on and off this list now for about 2 years. I've often tried mustering up the courage to post, but whenever I do I always get the message back as an error, so I hope that this one makes it!!! I'm from Iowa *blah* so if there's any other sinisterines on the list from this area feel free to email me privately. I have no belle and sebastian pals here, so that's a bit saddening. I enjoy reading all of your posts... they make a lonely girl's day :o) --Elizabeth PS. Can anyone offer some tips as to registering to vote for crushes? I keep trying to send in the commands, but that keeps coming back as an error, too!!! :o( +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tboyle at xxx.com Tue Apr 23 05:24:08 2002 From: tboyle at xxx.com (terry boyle) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:24:08 +0800 Subject: Sinister: A Perth Picnic Message-ID: Hello, I thought I would post about the first official Perth Sinister picnic. Twas a very humble affair, attended by myself, Jim, Helen and the English import Niko. A slightly nervous me shyly approached a sinister looking bunch of 3 people who were sitting cross legged, looking dishevelled (apart from the well presented Helen) and sharing a salad in Central Park. Names were exchanged, then we went to the pub. Beer was drunk, travelling stories were told, Withnail and I was discussed, Twisted Nerve was commended. Luckily everyone agreed that Slow Graffiti was perhaps their favourite song, thus ensuring me some content. We found that none of us really fits into our vocation (although I can see Niko in a bright pink shirt with "I dig Archaeology" or "Archaeology Rocks" written on it). The Perthites proved to Niko that our city is just a big country town, and that everyone in Perth can be linked through just two degrees of separation. He appeared to be suitably impressed. Then, sadly, it was time to go home, safe with the knowledge that Sinister is a wonderful place. Belle and Sebastian, bringing the world together. Terry See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_020201/splash.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul.ebblewhite at xxx.uk Tue Apr 23 12:08:18 2002 From: paul.ebblewhite at xxx.uk (Paul Ebblewhite) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:08:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A Perth Picnic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: sweet and sour chicken and egg fried rice OR chicken CUrry and chips. Answeres quick. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kchu at xxx.uk Tue Apr 23 12:38:11 2002 From: kchu at xxx.uk (kchu at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:38:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ease your meat with a squeeze Message-ID: <80256BA4.003FEF75.00@daimlerchryslerservices.co.uk> Sinister: Ken's back is quite smooth and non-hairy. Unlike a wolf, or a peacock, who both have very hairy backs. Ken also has a new work e-mail address now look. woo exciting. There has been talks on labelling, and conformity into groups, and classifications.. e.g. r-chel playforth: >>is there really anyone on sinister who actively seeks to be included in an obvious clique/subculture (as defined by dress/musical taste mainly)?<< and danny (who drinks tequila): >>Apparently whenever people try to describe me in a very one-dimensional way the word twee always seems to pop up<< Whenever I think about this subculture business I get confused when I get to the "indie" subculture.. I figured after a while that it was because there is being indie, and there's being "indie". And that being indie is about listening to yourself, and doing what your personal taste tell you you should do and don't give a shit about what other people thinks. Then there's being "indie" which is wearing indie glasses, indie flares, indie cardigans, indie dufflecoats and only listening to bands that indie people listen to, and don't give a shit that "non-indie" people think you look rather silly and you'd have a tough time finding a daytime job with that hair. But later on a realised that being indie and "indie" isn't mutually exclusive, because maybe you actually like "indie" clothes, and the bands you listen to are those you geniunely like, and that's good, but I get a bit mad when people bang on about being a non-conformist when it is kind of clear that they don't mean what they say at all (the worst is to be a "non-conformist" which seems to me is basically getting onto everyone's tits for the sake of it) But one is much better off being "indie", than indie, (ken's scale of "better off" is measured by "chances of getting laid"), since by being "indie" you instantly have a way bigger friend-base (although the term "friend" here is imprecise) and therefore an instantly bigger gene-pool your can contribute chromosomes into. Whereas if you're just indie you lose the advantage of being in a cliche (unless you're blessed by being indie and "indie", or even better indie and "goth" or "townie"), your friend base is confined to just the people who are tolerant enough to not just dismiss you as being strange, or that they kinda like you as a person rather than as a member of a (debatably) well-dressed gang. So five paragraphs of bollocks later Ken realises that nothing new has been said at all, and that being a non-conformist is just a state of mind, and no one cares. My attempt to be a "non-conformist" consisted of being "a vegetarian who eats meat", a wonder that I don't pull very often? Next I'll be a male lesbian, or a Chinese member of the BNP. Modboys and Indieans and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Now that all of the B&S Treasure Hunt clues have been found, I wonder if the band will release the answers to the clues any time soon. P.S.2.: Went to ATP this weekend, it was fun but can't think of good reportings back yet will leave the honours to others except to say that SINISTER FC WON THE FOOTIE AGAIN! Props to Elton John. x-box: Although this is my new e-mail address, crush votes should still go to pykachu100 at hotmail.com (hint) Gamecube: Sorry about the big legal shindig thingie underneath... but this is CONFIDENTIAL you know....... ****************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT This email, its content and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be legally privileged and/or confidential. Access by any other party is unauthorised without the express written permission of the sender. If you have received this email in error you may not copy or use the contents, attachments or information in anyway. Please destroy it and contact the sender on 0870 840 5000 or via email return. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Tue Apr 23 13:12:08 2002 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:12:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Pickerty Nickerty Message-ID: Ginger fox spewed forth: >So, I hereby announce at short notice - >London picnic, primrose hill, 27th April. >OK kids? >Good. Oh, 2pm or thereabouts. You all know >the routine >by now, don't you? and then i said to him: > has anyone else taken on the mantle of picnic mummy? i'm > sure i'm doing something this saturday too, but i can't > remember what it is, hmm, maybe it's only waiting in for > bed/wardrobe (two different items of furniture not one > combination type thing, although thinking about it, that > would be really kewl, but i digress...) that prolly won't > come for another three weeks. > > so erm, hold on this was going somewhere, ah yes, i think i > was going to volunteer to be picnic mummy. because he had also said: >does this actually mean I have to be a >picnic daddy? I don't think it's a good >idea. I might >not be there till 4pm myself as I am lazy. >And call me >strange, but I really don't want to give >my mobile >phone number out to the world. SO, ANYHOO, it appears that i am now IN CHARGE, so this is now officially my MOVING TO LONDON CELEBRATION PICNIC, which means things will be done PROPERLY (ahem). WHAT WILL HAPPEN 1) meet at the SPREAD EAGLE on CAMDEN PARKWAY for 2pm on SATURDAY (none of this poncy hanging around outside cinemas rubbish ;)) 2) faff about for a bit, buy BOUZE and CRISPS from unwins the off licence (unless you are cunning and have bought some already) 3) probably start walking up the hill about 2.30ish 4) sit on the top of the hill, natter, play football (can someone bring a ball pls), be smutty, DRINK and EAT, gossip (about YOU) etc 5) get bored/cold/run out of bouze 6) go back to the spread eagle to keep on drinking until closing time/falling over time. NB: should it be raining (although i understand the weekend is meant to be lovely), please omit steps 2 to 5. there you go, nae bother. newcomers are very very welcome, as are the usual suspects, who knows you might even get to meet ken. please mail me if you have any problems or questions (preferably about the picnic, but i'm very accommodating ;)) or think you might be late or something and i'll reassure you :) HERE IS A MAP: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?X=528250&Y=183750&zoom =1 HERE ARE DIRECTIONS: Come out of Camden Town tube station, cross the road directly in front of you. turn left, walk to the end of the road until you are about to cross it again (100m), turn right and on to Parkway. Walk along Parkway until you see the Spread Eagle on your left, have a look to see if we're there, otherwise have a look in unwins the off licence. if we are in neither of these places carry on walking up parkway until you reach a big junctiony thing where you turn right along gloucester avenue. there is then a fork in the road where you take the left hand one along regents park road. tootle along there until you see the park on your left, walk through the park until you get to the highest bit and we will be there. (that looks a lot more difficult than it really is btw) all home made biccies/cakes/quiches will be oohed and ahhed at and then scoffed :) YAY picnics!!! xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From figure2 at xxx.net Tue Apr 23 13:48:38 2002 From: figure2 at xxx.net (figure2 at xxx.net) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:48:38 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Put on your hi heel sneakers Message-ID: <20020423124838.FWXG17944.fep06-svc.ttyl.com@localhost> Vilkas talks passionately about 'sneakers'. I'm from the UK and call them trainers. But thanks for that, Viklas, because I'm currently wearing some polisheable all-black leather 'sneakers' from Jones the bootmakers (their description, not mine). They're functional and go with your average smart-casual boring bloke look, but I am reminded of some 'sneakers' I have that just might still be in the wardrobe. Brb... YES!! I bought these in London a few years ago and happily smiled as the other pedestrians in Oxford Street stopped to stare at my shocking shods [? could that be a valid noun (in plural form)?]. At the junction of Little Portland Street and Great Titchfield Street none other than the most famous living British architect put the brakes on his Porsche Boxster to take a glance. Maybe it was for the benefit of his young son who was in the passenger seat at the time, since Lord_ was still in his 'grey' period back then (although back in the 70's primaries yellow, green and blue were to be found adorning the metal tubes of his hi-tech envelopes: perhaps it was a moment of nostalgia). I shall put them on. Ah... comfy. I'm going for a short walk to enjoy the springyness again, for which I need a hard surface. Paving slabs in the garden will have to suffice because, although the scenery up here is lovely, this is very much 'the sticks' and there are construction workers lurking around out on the street, ostensibly repairing its surface but generally eating sandwiches and communicating with geo-stationary spacecraft via a complex and shifting semaphore of traffic cones in formations which seem to present no more obvious purpose... but I digress. Back in five minutes. I'm panting now. I jogged across as many paving slabs as I could find, then over the little circular ones set in a wavy line across a lawn which forces you into a kind of crazy hop-scotch then up past four stunted apple trees (their height diminishes as the topsoil gets thinner) then a circuit of a small patch of birchwood at the top, setting off some wind-chimes as I thunder 'round somewhat inelegantly. It's not a big garden by any means, but there are several of 'bits' to it. Back down, a few more jumps (boy these things are bouncy!) and in the door again. They're called 'Falcon' by Adidas, and I think they're aimed at the children's market. I was 27 when I bought them and I'm 31 now. They're in fluorescent orange, with wee bits of blue and yellow. The soles are bright orange and yellow. They remain so after some four years as, for obvious reasons, I've hardly worn them. If I were a sporting man they'd probably be knackered by now, of course. I think I'll skip the porn bit, except to say that 'porno-chic' isn't really porn. I'll try to avoid sounding like I have the first clue about 'cultural studies' (because I don't: I haven't even read Baudrillard), but fashion appropriates the fringes (bdum! eek) of culture all the time, be it art or porn or political radicalism to give it a cutting edge (bdum! bdum! shoot me): to make fashion *interesting* because the mainstream gets *boring*. Rarely do fashionable trends have any more than a tangential reference to the content of the subjects they pertain to align themselves with. For example, in *real* porn, people *actually get turned on by it*. In it's more bizzare forms, the rest of us can just enjoy a good giggle, or a feeling of lofty bohemian tolerance. Talking of which, I'm going to remove these trainers now, because I'm going to kiss them. I may be some time... ;-) Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Tue Apr 23 17:19:05 2002 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_S.?=) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:19:05 +0200 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?ATP:Adenosine_triphosphate_?= Message-ID: Hello Sinisters Apparently no-one has yet posted about recent meeting at 'all tomorrows party' in camber sand. I have to admit I'm a bit late with the reading all the recent messages therefore if there is going to be some carbon copy in the following please have mercy of me. First of all, I'm glad to report that sinister team has once again dominated the football tournament. Unfortunately (for me) I have neither being in the team nor attended at the final match... well I guess if was 'fortunately' for the team... :) ... ehm.. Can I consider this as my tiny contribution to the F.C.*sinister* to get it right and remain the champions? :) About the festival: I’ve been terribly serious and I guess have attended to something like 20 shows... hence I fear it is going to be terribly boring to report in case I report about them all... just a note about the one I liked more. Shellac, the organizers were amazing and they are apparently quite nice guys compared to what they were pictured [even if the clash with Steve Albini at the pub hasn’t been really friendly], Oxes, They are totally nuts, but the black lattex? leather? dress of one of the guitarist, Nat, has been one of the clues of the festival... to stay to weird dressing, I would mention Jeff Muller, floppy yellowish hat, horrible indeed despite ‘the shipping news’ has been one the best, and personally the best act I’ve attended during the week end. I head Ken Chu as been amazing (seriously) but I’ve missed that... shame!.... Shannon Wright, has been the greatest surprise, I thik it is the next record I’m going to pay, once I will recovery to the mortgage I had to open to afford to the ATP ticket sales... nina nastasia, was quite good as well, thought a little boring year in year out, especially when getting to ‘country-styled ‘. Hip Hip Hurra, for ‘three second kiss’ the only one Italian band set to play while shellac where on stage... so for a very little minority. They was more than fine, those who have liked shellac would appreciate them as well, I guess, check ‘em out. Last couple of notes. The first is for ‘Godspeed You Black Emperor! I missed them a couple of weeks ago in London because the tickets went sold out, which is rather impressive as I’ve attended to the concert of the band who played immediately before them, ‘Do Mak Say Think’ a couple of years ago in Italy and there were something like only 20 people other than me. [by the way they are playing tonight at 93 feet east in brick lane... is anyone in the mood to go???? Mail me then!!] Anyway I think they deserve the sell-out! And the last is for ‘The Fall’...they bring me back to high-school, which is a good feeling for a while at least and especially performed afterwards in the pub... more detailed about that from other sinister attending at the scene, and tremendously waiting for ‘Papa M’ snapshot... stay tuned on the next sinister report about that, I bet them would be a good fun! A note of delusion for ‘Smog’ it was really ‘too much’ even for a huge fan as I am.. I think it is a pity he played without the band, cause I was lucky enough to see him just before moving to London in Milan, and it has been one of the best gig I’ve ever been and I was therefore I’ve been kind of double disappointed.... mmhmh Well I think this is really all about the festival.... for the music point of view. Meeting again and meeting new sinister has been really brilliant, and I’m SORRY for disappearing without say ‘hello’ in the search for lost chalet-mate.... I think I’ve written too much already, hence I‘ll shut up. Take care, your very sinister, stefano +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From halighhalou at xxx.com Tue Apr 23 19:37:53 2002 From: halighhalou at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:37:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the headlights are beacons on the highway Message-ID: hello sinister. note to list: this will be one of those annyoing 'gig' posts. i am happy to say this is my first one ever concerning an actual belle and sebastian event. getting to said event may prove to be tricky, but so it is and so it goes. i have no tickets. after finally solidifying a method of transportation to chicago the heralded weekend of may 11, i realized the show was sold out. so. because i qualify, technically, i applied for handicapped tickets. apparently those are also all gone gone gone at this point. so. i am waiting on ebay for something to come through. the good news is, for all of you who are just biting at the proverbial bit to lay eyes on my luscious person, i will be in chicago that weekend regardless of my assured or denied show attendance. so. i think that's a happy thing, don't you? where is everyone staying? like a good sinister girl, i checked the archives to see if any of my questions had already been answered somewhere in the mountain of posts, but i think it's still legit to ask. tell me, please. off list, of course. and if you feel like writing to me just to write, well, that's ok, too. i can just stand outside the venue and listen for a bit before sleeping in the car, right? right. love, lou _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Tue Apr 23 19:39:57 2002 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunny set) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:39:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Hilary walked to her death because she couldn't think of anything to s Message-ID: I was walking along the corridor that runs between the offices and labs. To get to the toilet from my lab you either have to walk along a corridor and then down the stairs or down the stairs and along a corridor. I usually do the former. I happen to think it might be a bit quicker. That day I had decided to do the latter and was feeling slightly out of place walking along unfamiliar territory. About two thirds away along both corridors, or one third depending on you view of life, there is an emergency shower. Each time I pass it I get an urge to pull the chain which will empty the entire contents of the tank of water. The splash would be terrific. The drain is so small and badly placed I'm sure it wouldn't cope with such a downpour. I imagine the water flooding into the offices surrounding the shower and people standing on chairs cartoon style. Each time I think this thought I worry. Perhaps one day, whilst daydreaming, I really will pull the chain. I'm sure then the idea wouldn't seem such a good one. It was at roughly this point caught mid daydream that a girl stopped me said: "I'm to ask you about your dog sometime. I'm too busy now but later ok?" The girl was gone before I could even nod or even splutter. I was intrigued. I wondered what she wanted to ask. Was she angry that my dog, now spends most of her days alone? I feel particularly guilty about that and I hoped if that was the case she would offer some sort of solution to my problem. How did she know I even had a dog? Had she seen me and my dog out? Did she think my dog was cute and slightly quirky or just a bit un-obedient? Maybe she wanted to buy my dog? My mind spun with the possibilities. Later that afternoon she reappeared. "I was talking to your supervisor and mentioned how quiet you are." I blushed. I'm good at blushing it is one of my strong points. "He told me to ask you about your dog" I smiled. She smiled back then left before I had time to respond. She left me wondering why I blush when people tell me I'm quiet. And why she cared enough to ask my supervisor what she should talk about with me. And what I should have done so that she wouldn't leave straight away? Take Care, Rachel _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ubootscooby6 at xxx.com Tue Apr 23 21:23:53 2002 From: ubootscooby6 at xxx.com (scooby *) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 20:23:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: bouncy castles Message-ID: hey dean , i think maybe the 'air' quote means that u dont really notice them... it just shows what ppl dont know scooby x _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fbrito at xxx.br Tue Apr 23 21:41:47 2002 From: fbrito at xxx.br (Fernando Brito) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:41:47 -0300 Subject: Sinister: I'm furious! I'm miserable!! I'm in love!!! Message-ID: I'm soooo pissed!!! How things change... from one minute to another! It's so unfair! It's like a joke! Just now, when I'm in the middle of so many troubles... look what happened to me... Less than 5 minutes after I clicked the Send button to send you my last post, and to send a "whining" mail to S. Gazzetti, this beautiful, smart, funny girl knocked on my door.... she's the girl who will replace me in my current flat. And she's so, so, sooo cute... and she likes Belle and Sebastian! She's the first "flesh and bone" person I've ever known that likes Belle and Sebastian!!! She's already moved to our flat, she couldn't wait any longer because she was living in her (AAARRRGGHHHH!!!) boyfriend's house, along with his parents! And we spent the whole Sunday afternoon and evening talking, just we two, and she's great! I think she's the coolest person I've ever met! She's a journalist! A TV reporter! Well, actually she's a Web reporter because her TV channel is only on the web, it's like a normal TV station, not like those "TV-on-demand" sites, but it's on the web. And she called me to go out with her to the coolest indie party in Sao Paulo, which I always wanted to go but never had anyone to go with, and I NEVER go out all by myself! And she knows all the indie-stars in the city, all the DJs, the columnists, all these cool people! (yes, I'm being shallow! so what?) And she wears glasses, which makes a pretty woman even more beautiful! So... I don't wanna go anymore! I don't want to leave my flat!!! But I have to, because she is sleeping in my roomie's bedroom and he is sleeping in the living room. It's very uncomfortable for both. I wish I could take her along with me to my new flat and leave my boring new flatmate with the old one! But she has a boyfriend and it was her boyfriend who told her to move to my current flat, because her boyfriend and my current flatmate are partners in a computers company, so it would be a little suspect if I asked her to move to my new place! I'm feeling awful! I don't have words in portuguese to describe how I'm feeling, what to say in english?! And it's not the first time it happens to me... about five years ago I had the same trouble... I fell in love with my best friend's girl, she was a medical doctor, and she was so smart and nice as well... but I had to forget about her, for the sake of my friendship! And I know she liked me too, because when they broke up (I think in part because of me!) she came running to see me, but then I just didn't feel anything anymore, and I suspected she was trying to use me, you know? So in the end nothing happened! And now it's quite the same, a little better because I don't have to worry about friendship, and in fact I already hate her boyfriend! But anyway I don't want another Jonathan David episode in my life!! I'm writing this at work and I'm holding my mouth shut because now all I want to do is shout! Scream out loud. I'm in a bestial rage, I don't know if I've ever felt this way before! I think if I saw her boyfriend now I would punch him with all my force, though I know I wouldn't hurt him, he's two times larger than I.... But she's so small... They have nothing in common, she likes B&S, he likes Sepultura... she likes to read books, he likes to play video games... she has short hair, he looks like a guy from Iron Maiden... I'm so confused and distracted... I didn't work at all today! It's 17:00 and I haven't written one line of code yet! All I want is to go home and see her... ...and find a way to solve this bloody situation. Fernando Brito +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lizdaplyn at xxx.com Tue Apr 23 22:36:36 2002 From: lizdaplyn at xxx.com (Liz Daplyn) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:36:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ...she said, roasting a chicken Message-ID: Evening all. Cor blimey. All I really have to say about All Tomorrow�s Parties apart from noting the almost universal loveliness of the people I met and talked to there (only some of whom I already knew � see, Your Honour, I�m getting better at this), is that whoever gave me this horrible throat infection is a cad of the first water. And that I am a bad person for lazily drinking far too much and not seeing enough of the fine bands available. But hey, I sat near Mark E. Smith in the pub for a bit (ah!). Mr Paul Field lately shirked the responsibility of losing his picnic mummy cherry, damn his eyes. Well sir, I�ll see your next weekend and raise you the one after (4-5 May), which has not only a tasty adjunct in the form of the May Day bank holiday, which can be used for further sinister frolicking excercises, but also ME IN LONDON. This request is obviously made for the sole reason that I am a selfish bastard, but could whoever does take charge bear this in mind? Also that it can�t be on Saturday, as I�m then at the wedding that is my primary purpose for being in town then at all. Oh damn, just noticed that infernal rascal Carsmile has done some organizing for this coming weekend. Moany old git. So do we think that the previously mentioned one after would be a very good time for a secondary Brighton extravaganza? Hmmmm Ms Playforth, siren of the south coast? Anyway, apropos of nothing in particular: there�s a wonderful old gal who catches the same bus as I do sometimes, and I simply can�t help staring in impressed awe at the precisely complementing red tones of her natty coat and jaunty slingbacks, not to mention an immaculately coloured and somewhat bouffant coiffure that disguises the thinning of her elderly follicles nicely as it perches over camp snooker-player spectacles. It�d be nice to think that one could age as well, but to be honest, something a little messier and less brittle might be easier to maintain for a long innings. She probably wears the same flowery housecoat for days on end when she�s not going out. Still gobsmacked at being called a newcomer by the Pinefox the other day, and to my very face, even. Check the archives, �dude�. Actually, don�t, you�ll only find a scattering of my juvenile ramblings amongst the brilliance that drops from the keyboarding fingers of twee fuckers within our homely crabpot (as it were) the world over. Goodnight, ladies. Love, Liz :x *** Westron wind, when wilt thou blow? The small rain down can rain. Christ, if my love were in my arms, And I in my bed again! *** _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zoziepop at xxx.com Tue Apr 23 23:04:02 2002 From: zoziepop at xxx.com (Dimitra Daisy) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 01:04:02 +0300 Subject: Sinister: Life's not wrong - you just don't get it free Message-ID: Referring to the greek pop scene, I always used the phrase �if such a thing exists�. It seems I was wrong, or how else can it be explained that there is �at least- one boy in Manila who knows so much about it, about five times as much as I do. I was very surprised and it took me a while to get round to asking him why he likes these bands �They remind me of Sarah Records�, he said; �they make me happy inside�. I guessed there were more things he wanted to say but he couldn�t do so in English. Find an example, I wanted to say, but I didn�t. He did nonetheless: he showed me an article and as I started to read it I got excited and told everyone I could find around, and quoted about half of it to Rachel. The article can be found here: http://www.furia.com/twas/twas0210.html , but don�t go and read it and tell me it doesn�t say all the things I think it says, cause I know it. It�s more that it inspired me to those thoughts than that I found those thoughts there. On Saturday I went to lunch with my best friend. It was nice though the conversation was confusing. �I say one thing, then proceed to say almost the opposite�, he said in the end. I looked at him: �I asked Jef a question � and he couldn�t answer it, but he showed me and article, and the article was supposed to be about Field Mice, but it was about Sarah Records, the label they recorded for, but that�s not important � and it was about how their view of things changed his life, or just fitted into it, how it was his pop dream � but that�s not very important � and he mentioned someone on that label that had committed suicide � but that�s not very important either� What�s important is that in the end he said, music can�t save you if you haven�t decided you�ll be saved. And the conversations with you would lead somewhere more, if you had decided you want to get somewhere�. He replied something I forgot for a few days. Yesterday morning I woke up to find Matt had posted, so I read it, still half-asleep. And still half-asleep, I looked for that article again without really realising it, and I found myself looking at it, too sleepy to read it really. And I thought about how things won�t make you believe in them �they won�t convince you- if you�ve not decided to believe in them. And I wanted to find a good way to say that. A few hours later, making tape covers, I decided I wanted to photocopy something, so I got dressed and went out to walk the 50 meters between my house and the shop, but I bumped into that friend and a friend of his halfway. I run down the street shouting �hey little boy� and even though they know me very well and they know I do stuff like that, and they like it, they looked surprised when they turned around � their usual grumbly selves faced me, smiling and smelling of strawberry chewing gum. I wasn�t ecstatically happy, but the sun was shining and the air was sweet and running down the street is fun, so I was smiling. And for the first few seconds, they stared; and I didn�t remember the article, instead I remembered what my friend had said: �you and your friends �he means my internet friends, mostly Rachel and John- were born knowing what you want from life, while me and the people I know still feel we have to question everything�. All I know is I am inclined to believe and I tend to like things. But once I had asked him what Breaking Gods Heart means and he said: Dancing naked in a red forest Falling in love so much you make him jealous Loving your favourite band more than you love him And wanting when you die to live forever in your favourite film and not go to heaven. I made him write it on the back of a photograph (which I seem to have lost). Then he fell asleep (on the floor - well not right afterwards but very soon) and I sat making a tape and thinking we're breaking his (her) heart when we're not as beautiful as we can be. When we're not even trying to be close. And also when we are beautiful and sweet and brave -I think we move him to tears then. I don�t think he doesn�t know; I think he just finds it hard to admit he�s not like most people around him� Cause then, as Ken eloquently remarked, then �your friend base is confined to just the people who are tolerant enough to not just dismiss you as being strange, or that they kinda like you as a person�. * He will some day though. Meanwhile, you keep the faith Dimitra xx * Ken is great, he�s insightful and sweet and honest and bouncy. And he smiles a lot. You should love him for that. And naturally, show your love by sending crush votes to pykachu100 at hotmail.com ps I would never had written this, or lived the things it talks about, if it hadn't been for Hefner, the Field Mice, Raining Pleasure and naturally Belle and Sebastian. And so I thank them for that. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stringbeanjean1 at xxx.com Wed Apr 24 09:27:37 2002 From: stringbeanjean1 at xxx.com (juju fox) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 01:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: it must be the colors & the kids that keep me alive Message-ID: <20020424082737.23452.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> yellow hair, you are a funny bear. but i have black hair now. actually, it was blue for a few days. that was fun. i bought a silky blue blouse with dreamy sleeves just to match. then i had a *real day* with an email boy named jonathan. we had a picnic on a green near the MOMA in his hometown of san francisco. i bought him a bubble blowing set for his birthday. and we brought a frisbee, but it was a better day for kites. however, we just ended up drawing self-portraits with crayons and colored pencils, and one of them was him and i with our respective cats peeking out from behind us on a plaid aeroplane in space flying toward an ikea planetoid chair complete with cupholders. we named the planetoid chair "j�j�nsk�". we double exposed izone photos and looked at neato modern art things. then we met up with some friends to see miyazaki's "spirited away" in japanese. it was sweet and too cute. i think i popped, it was so cute. after the movie and dinner, the real day came to a close with receipt of one preciously wrapped gift, which i insisted on not opening for a while, just so i could cherish the thought of getting a gift for no apparent reason, wrapped in such a way that i'd have wrapped myself to give to someone i liked. but once i got in bed at home (100 miles later), i opened it as fast as i could, and played with the toys therein until i felt sleepy. it was a good day. the only thing that could've made it better is if it didn't matter that the email boy wasn't someone else. one year has passed since *he* entered my life. the events have repeated, but the results have been painfully different. it's as if my being expected it all to happen again. but he came and went, without Thee Moment recurring. so i know... i know that it's done. and it's time to move on. so i'll have real days once in a while. but i've resigned myself to living with a certain emptiness in there. and someday i'll put oil to canvas to depict it. it'll look like one of those neato modern art things. with a big fat hole in it where some orange used to be. i shouldn't be listening to cat power. i should be sleeping. hearts, juju __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From superh3 at xxx.com Wed Apr 24 11:26:03 2002 From: superh3 at xxx.com (paul hardman) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:26:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Come to Amsterdam St Lucy. Message-ID: Hello to the lot of you. First off is someone going to tell me that the pic of St Lucy on the photos page is real.......I don't think so. Surely life ain't this bad when you're that good looking? I can see I'm perhaps giving everyone the wrong impression of me, I'm not really superficial but just like most people my Achilles heel appears to be great looking flowery types and every B & S girl fan seems to fit the bill. I'm no shark either, B & S saved me from living in 1989 My Bloody Valentine, Fatima Mansions, Roses, Pixies et al were still being played far too often but now my joy is spreading. As you can tell by the desperate start yes I'm on the scrap heap I got dumped before Christmas, didn't quite mean it on my Christmas list to Santa when I wrote "All I want for Christmas is to be left alone" White bearded annual freak. Good job I'm old & wise enough to deal with it eh! Anyhoo these picnic's look like a bit of a lark what! and seeing as though I live just outside of Amsterdam, I'm sure you can guess the rest. Vondell park's a bit nice at this time of year only thing is it's going to take someone with extra-ordinary people arranging skills to pull it off because I keep drifting between minimal to none (effort required). Failing that there's always a (parenclub) ten minutes from my house, that's a swingers club to the likes of you and me. What a Belle & Sebastian party that could be. For when you really want to get to know someone. It reminds me of home though because we have a club called the Showboat back in lovely sunny Warrington, although there apparently you just get a bottle in the face....I prefer the alternative. Anyone popping over to The Dam this lovely Spring/summer can drop me a line if they wish, I just wanna have some fun while it's hot, meet some nice people and carry on caining the Thai because it makes me happy. Come on the Reds. Warlord of Atlantis. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Wed Apr 24 11:51:18 2002 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:51:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: we were rich once, until our heads exploded Message-ID: <20020424105118.53539.qmail@web10407.mail.yahoo.com> Word for today = "casualisation". As I sat on the bus one the way back from Waitrose this morning, I saw a woman holding a leaflet. It announced that today is the "Simon Jones Memorial Day of Awareness about Casualisation", I think it was. I couldn't for the life of me think what it could be about. The picture of Mr Jones was of a young man with a crew-cut wearing a Ben Sherman type shirt. So people are finally rising up against the Reebok-classic-wearing, pissy-lager-drinking, pub-brawling culture that blights our provincial towns? Er, no. It's all to do with casual labour, and the lack of writes and protection the employee has. More about Mr Jones and the ugly side of casualisation can be found at http://www.simonjones.org.uk/latest.htm. I used to know a Simon Jones - but he was a twat. And he's still alive, so it couldn't have been him. Which made me wonder. What do people with really common names do when their mates are Googling themselves? My combo of dull-as-fuck first name and moderately exotic surname makes me fairly easy to track down. There were no Marks among the 31 Casarottos listed in the records of Ellis Island - though some of those 19th Century eye-ties have ker-azy names! http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/search/passSearch.asp? is quite interesting, especially if you're a septic. So. What else is new? I went to ATP. It wasn't great. The line-up was so po-faced and post-hardcore (Steve Albini cloned into a million sour-jawed men with unnecessary facial hair) that I couldn't be arsed to see the great majority of the bands. I know this is anathema to people like Stefano, but it's life. I think most sinisterines had a similar approach :-) However, their was one huge beacon of hope (and I'm not talking about Kelley Deal's arse). The Breeders were SUPERB, and totally made it for me, on a musical level at least. Though if anyone tries to tell you Cheap Trick were anything other than your dad making a 70s rock cunt of himself, they're lying, you know. And we won the football! Again! For bunch of bed-wetters, we can kick a ball passably (and I'd like to see someone call Dr Sean a bed-wetter to his face). Ally 96, big gay Richard, Mr Purple Troosers the skipper, lovely Joss, Dr Sean, Hairy Pat, Jonnie no. 5 and, of course, "Drunken" Matt Powell, manager extraordinaire, who pulled it together when it came down to the wire. Brian. Played 4, won 4; goals for, 19; goals against, 3. I think it's safe to say we're all over the spoon. This is a bit of a prosaic post, really, so I think I'll send it and maybe come back for more later. Mark xxx p.s. I got to SLEEP with David Moore! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Wed Apr 24 15:50:43 2002 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:50:43 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: Sinister: brighton piquenique? Message-ID: liz daplyn (siren of, er, wales) took the words right out of my mouth. if anyone can stomach TWO sinister picnics in as many weeks, i will happily oblige by receiving you in brighton on *sunday 5th may*. this will probably be quite a mini-shindig as i may be otherwise engaged later that night (though i may not). anyway, you are MOST WELCOME! so, i will wait to hear what interest there is before proceeding. (please note that i won't be able to go to the primrose hill picnic this saturday, so 5th may will be your ONLY chance to see me for who knows how many more months. and i wouldn't want y'all getting withdrawal symptoms, now...) bapps? you have to come as i want my property returned! luv archel xxx ps. if anyone is expecting SYMPATHY that they're going to be in the USA that weekened, think again. you know who you are. ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elf-angel at xxx.com Thu Apr 25 02:07:49 2002 From: elf-angel at xxx.com (Bron) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:07:49 -0500 Subject: Sinister: where do all the dreamers go? Message-ID: <2AFF468BC9A593C4CB139EDE4B0381C1@elf-angel.wildmail.com> dear sinister i'm afraid i'm in distress tonight. for months now i've been having idealistic dreams for the future, nothing definite, just crazy fantasies of endless mountains and far-reaching blazing skies of clouds and a moon that will traverse across it on an endless journey to the break of dawn. i'm a dreamer. i'm an artist without her art. the foundation for my life was laid thousands of sunsets ago, golden hopes of inspiration and profound influences of well-behaved support were instilled in my being. where did it all go? why is music so easy to fall in love with and why is it when the man of my DREAMS comes along and has to turn my restless ocean of tortured emotions into a calm sea of pretty pictures? where is the movement of the thirsty soul? what is left but the darkening gray sky of the future evening? sure the thunderstorm left us in awe, but what happened to the bright-flash-wow of the lightning? did we all put on our shades and look to the left while all the right reasons catapulted forward? i'm starting to talk abstractly. perhaps i have been this whole time. but it's something. maybe you think it's nothing. i really couldn't care less what you think it is, and that is why i keep bouncing these shaking fingertips across these plastic buttons of logic and order called a keyboard. it's symbolic of how i feel at this moment though. fuzzy. unclear. forsaken. if i were to talk to a real person right now, no doubt i'd cry. silly isn't it? if someone were to see me crack right now it's almost as if there would be no glue to fix it. so i'll just write to all you sinisterines...whether you give a good damn or not. there is comfort in getting something off your chest and not seeing the other's facial expression, not having to deal with their immediate sentiments if they do not jive with your own at the time. i'm listening to "air" right now. which could be a bad thing... luck and unhappy. that's the song that just came on. how fitting. i should listen to something else right now...like abba or some other shallow pop band that only sounds best when not pronouncing an actual word. hmm. i'll shut up now. and i'll apologize if you're an abba fan. i am fan too really. well sort of. right. ---your mountain mama sweetheart X "The differences between what you hope for and what you end up receiving are part of what makes the outside, the hoped for, worthwhile...and beautiful." ---the Lovely Lou http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pah6211 at xxx.com Thu Apr 25 03:19:56 2002 From: pah6211 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?paul=20healy?=) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 03:19:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Looper info Message-ID: <20020425021956.86900.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> I found the following on looper's website: The Snare (single)Catalogue No: CDMUTE273/10MUTE273 CD Track Listing: The Snare, Peacock's Tail, Peacock's Appeal. 10" Vinyl Track Listing:The Snare, The Arrow, Peacock Johnson (Demo). Released on May 13th 2002. This is Looper's first release for Mute records and the first fruits of their collaboration with Evil Bob and Peacock Johnson. The Snare Catalogue No: CDSTUMM195/STUMM195 Track Listing: The Snare, Sugarcane, New York Snow, Peacock Johnson, Driving Myself Crazy, Lover's Leap, Good Girls, She's a Knife, This Evil Love, Fucking Around Released on May 27th 2002 on CD and Vinyl. This is Looper's first album for Mute records and is a collaboration with Evil Bob and Peacock Johnson ------------------------------------------------------ See some of you on Saturday. Well done to the fitba boys. Paul Healy P.S. to those going transatlantic, you bastards, have a good time freddie we love you freddie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Thu Apr 25 08:21:48 2002 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:21:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Looper Info (II) Message-ID: <000201c1ec29$e08c7440$5dc67ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, Thanks for Paul for reminding me I meant to post about Looper. There is a one off gig supporting Cornelius, & later a tour: Monday 6th May - Royal Festival Hall, London 7.30pm £12.50 / £15 / £17.50 CORNELIUS (live) + THE GENTLE PEOPLE (live) + LOOPER (live) The siren suite (dj). See http://www.sbc.org.uk/music/sub_music/performance/18819.html?version=1 (or something similar) Tuesday 11th June - Hop and Grape, Manchester Wednesday 12th June - Rocket, Leeds Thursday 13th June - Cottiers Theatre, Glasgow Sunday 16th June - Pavillion, Brighton Monday 17th June - Cargo, London Tuesday 18th June - Cargo, London see http://www.mute.com/looper/index.html On http://www.looper.info/ the new show is described as "A Murder Mystery DJ Set." ATP was good fun. Thanks to good friends old & new for making it so, & well done to the Sinister football team for winning the tournament again (and to their supporters for egging them on). Mark, I agree that there was a lot of po-faced bands taking themselves far too seriously. And that's why Cheap Trick were so refreshing as despite admittedly limited material they worked their bollocks off (& drenched themselves in sweat) to entertain and involve the audience & succeeded excellently in their objective. Gotta hobble off, Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Thu Apr 25 12:41:49 2002 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_S.?=) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:41:49 +0200 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Hello sinister it is apparent that i'm becoming kind of a gig-addicted. hence here we go with a kind of an advice (can it be considered as list abuse, hopefully it isn't) tonight: LOW, shepherd's bush empire. I forgot to mention them in my previous post but I think they're set was quite good and I've enjoyed it far more than the (last two) records. I bet Mark is going to come with me tonight :)... there's apparently a bit of confusion around this point, but I heard that CAT POWER is going to come of the 5th may... this is a kind of a disappointment as It will drop the same day as the wonder of the seasidesinister picnic...mmhmhmh.. puzzling... anyway for everyone who is interested and haven't had the experience of seeing her on the stage before is gonna be quite interesting (if in the mood for that). I think it is almost all. oh. cheap trick are also around, but I guess the famous 5 neck and body-shaped guitars are the most of it, isn't? take care and see you soon stefano +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Thu Apr 25 13:27:25 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:27:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: top ten albums of all time - discuss Message-ID: <20020425122725.79433.qmail@web14402.mail.yahoo.com> Hi everyone, hope you are all wonderful on this sunny day - everyone have the day off to go to the nearest beer garden. If everyone says anything tell them dean said it was ok. I know its a bit high fidelity (except he normally does top fives) but i thought I'd give it a try as I've got a load of work to do. procrastination is one of my strengths and the only way I'd ever clean the cooker. Keep in mind that I've just done this off the top of my head, without the benefit of rummaging through my tunes, and is therefore open to adjustment. I'd be interested to know other peoples too. It's quite scary how old some of these are. I must be getting on a bit, but they are all classics. See what you think anyway. 1. Jeff Buckley – Grace 2. Stone Roses – Stone Roses 3. Verve – A Northern Soul 4. Smiths – The Queen is Dead 5. Pixies – Bossanova 6. Nick Drake – Pink Moon 7. Nirvana – Nevermind 8. Belle and Sebastian – If You’re Feeling Sinister 9. Happy Mondays – Pills and Thrills and Bellyaches 10. Spiritualized – Ladies and Gentlemen we are Floating in Space. Take care people. Dean XX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoff_sheridan at xxx.uk Thu Apr 25 14:41:23 2002 From: geoff_sheridan at xxx.uk (Geoff Sheridan) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:41:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: top ten albums of all time - discuss Message-ID: That's off topic, this a teen angst list :) Good picks, although I probably wouldn't have bothered with the Mondays or Verve. What is definitely missing is the Tindersticks first album. I'd also add American Music Club's 'Mercury', but I'd probably be alone. Then Orange Juice 'You can't hide your love for ever' which every single fan of Scottish pop music should have welded to their turntable. Or something. Which would mean Belle and Sebby would have to go or it'd be a top eleven :( OK so here're my picks: 1 Jeff Buckley, Grace 2 Tindersticks, first eponymous 3 American Music Club, Mercury 4 Smiths, The Queen is Dead 5 Nick Drake, Pink Moon 6 Orange Juice, You can't hide your love for ever Dammit - it goes all 70s now... 7 David Bowie, Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars 8 Television, Marquee Moon 9 Patti Smith, Horses 10 Pulp, Different Class B&S might have squeezed in if.... 11 Belle and Sebastian, first four EPs back to back on a CD-R ...was an album. In other news, I see you don't have to be subscribed to Sinister to make the Footie team. Shameful. g PS Buy lots of American Music Club records. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ruthmaverick at xxx.com Thu Apr 25 15:18:58 2002 From: ruthmaverick at xxx.com (Ruth Allan) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:18:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: just say yes or no Message-ID: hello sinister. oh my life I have a voice. its quite exciting, but I can't yet face a. a diary extract from my so called life b. any music related lists or runners c. the future without you. or a heavy lunch. so this is it. I have just moved back to the midlands for working hard and maybe there are some people nearby with rhymable sirnames. ruthx _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snyderd at xxx.edu Thu Apr 25 15:25:01 2002 From: snyderd at xxx.edu (Dave Snyder) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: chicago ticket?? Message-ID: hello, I have suddenly been offered a potential road trip adventure to chi-town due to a friend who really wants to see Sloan play on 5/11 - wild! Does anyone have an extra ticket for me? Please? Songles Dave in DC +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Thu Apr 25 15:32:56 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:32:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: tonight! Message-ID: Just one last quick reminder that tonight is the first night of How Does It Feel To Be Loved? We've spent a small fortune on magnificent records and it's going to be a good one. Here are the details once again. Hope to see some of you later. Ian When: April 25th, Buffalo Bars, underneath The Famous Cock pub, outside Highbury & Islington tube 9pm-2am, beer �1.50 until midnight, �3 adm Music played: The Smiths * The Supremes * The Go-Betweens * Dusty Springfield * Belle & Sebastian * Tammi Terrell * Aztec Camera * The Ronettes * Orange Juice * Beach Boys * The Temptations * Velvet Underground * Felt * The Shangri-Las * Primal Scream * Otis Redding * The Field Mice * Magnetic Fields * Dexys Midnight Runners * The Four Tops * Dolly Parton * The Orchids * Simon And Garfunkel Website address: http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ann_septimus at xxx.com Thu Apr 25 23:17:49 2002 From: ann_septimus at xxx.com (Salako *) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:17:49 -0700 Subject: Sinister: top 10 all time discs Message-ID: I just have to get in on this... Finally, a chance to push my crappy taste on others heh heh heh. OK, keep in mind that I am 17 and from a very small town, where my only recourse for good music is Kazaa, so here goes: 1. Strangeways Here We Come - the Smiths 2. Tea for the Tillerman (or the Harold & Maude sndtrk)- Cat Stevens 3. Automatic for the People - REM 4. Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd 5. If You're Feeling Sinister - Belle & Sebastian 6. Monday Morning, 3 AM - Simon and Garfunkel 7. Carmina Burana - Carl Orff 8. Urban Hymns - the Verve 9. The Man Who - Travis 10. (tie) CDRed 1st 4 EPs (nice one Geoff), and Pablo Honey - Radiohead _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ann_septimus at xxx.com Thu Apr 25 23:23:42 2002 From: ann_septimus at xxx.com (Salako *) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:23:42 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Finished list (other one is a mistake) Message-ID: I just have to get in on this... Finally, a chance to push my crappy taste on others heh heh heh. OK, keep in mind that I am 17 and from a very small town, where my only recourse for good music is Kazaa, so here goes: 1. Strangeways Here We Come - the Smiths 2. Tea for the Tillerman (or the Harold & Maude sndtrk)- Cat Stevens 3. Automatic for the People - REM 4. Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd 5. If You're Feeling Sinister - Belle & Sebastian 6. Monday Morning, 3 AM - Simon and Garfunkel 7. Carmina Burana - Carl Orff 8. Urban Hymns - the Verve 9. The Man Who - Travis 10. (tie) CDRed 1st 4 EPs (nice one Geoff), and Pablo Honey - Radiohead It's awfully funny how much I enjoy reading all these posts, I feel so loved, in a cushioned, safe way. Funny. Hope you don't mind me getting in on the party :P. Maybe I'll just lurk for a while longer. Or not. Ishka bibl Ann PS: Matt (was it you who wrote the 'rant' a few days back including references to Total Recall and Lawnmower Man?)... just wanted to say that you took the words out of my mouth... I was just about ready to post something VERY similar, but don't need to now. Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Thu Apr 25 23:59:01 2002 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 23:59:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I don't understand / The rules of the game Message-ID: <000001c1ecac$cd1c5280$038801d5@oemcomputer> Hi Again, Sorry to forcibly enter your box again so soon. At the risk of getting a mighty slap for treading on the toes of our dearly loved List Mums could I remind readers of the carefully crafted list FAQ ( http://www.missprint.org/sinister/faq.html ). You know, that thing they make you read through the bars of your cot while you're biding your time in the Nursery, with the mobile slowly twirling above your head. I was just reading No 18, as its one of my favourite ones, especially sub-heading 2, bullet 4 (what a masterfully crafted document). Not for any particular reason, mind. Love to all, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OneMestizo at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 00:00:06 2002 From: OneMestizo at xxx.com (OneMestizo at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 19:00:06 EDT Subject: Sinister: Disponible Message-ID: <17f.76b4d12.29f9e476@aol.com> sinistarians and the likes, in this corner of the world, i have two (2) tickets for the Boston show that i am willing to part with.........please submit your offer and again thanks for kind words, in advance............ d +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinepainter at xxx.net Fri Apr 26 01:12:22 2002 From: lazylinepainter at xxx.net (Salp) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 19:12:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Finished list (other one is a mistake) References: Message-ID: <005b01c1ecb7$0b304e50$9aaab041@salp> Ann, I have to say seeing Cat up near the top of your list was the one thing that brought a smile to my face today. I am still waiting for people to realize Cat Stevens beyond his Greatest Hits album. This ^10 list is for the sinisterians (and others) who have yet to truly experience Cat. Top 10 Cat Stevens Songs: 1.Don't Be Shy 2.Lilywhite 3.Portabello Road 4.Ruby Love 5.Boy With a Moon and Star on his Head 6.On the Road to Find Out 7.If You Want To Song Out, Sing Out 8.Angelsea 9.Sun C/79 10.I Wish, I Wish The man truly knew how to write. Matthew p.s. I belive most of you guys have heard these, since all of you have great musical tastes, but this is for the ones who still need to develop their musical pallet. > I just have to get in on this... Finally, a chance to push my crappy taste > on others heh heh heh. OK, keep in mind that I am 17 and from a very small > town, where my only recourse for good music is Kazaa, so here goes: > > 1. Strangeways Here We Come - the Smiths > 2. Tea for the Tillerman (or the Harold & Maude sndtrk)- Cat Stevens > 3. Automatic for the People - REM > 4. Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd > 5. If You're Feeling Sinister - Belle & Sebastian > 6. Monday Morning, 3 AM - Simon and Garfunkel > 7. Carmina Burana - Carl Orff > 8. Urban Hymns - the Verve > 9. The Man Who - Travis > 10. (tie) CDRed 1st 4 EPs (nice one Geoff), and Pablo Honey - > Radiohead +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 01:17:50 2002 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 20:17:50 EDT Subject: Sinister: Top ten albums and Nick hornby Message-ID: <11e.fb7e218.29f9f6ae@aol.com> Hi sinister. Funny as it is, I jsut finnished every work by Nick Horney and open my box to see a Top Ten?!? Wild. How many of you don't want to see Hugh Grant play Will from About A Boy. Though I am really looking forward to the film. Also, on a side note, someone was asking for a ticket for chicago (my home) b/c on the 11th they are seeing sloan. I'm driving to toledo to see sloan on the 10th, due to the fact that I am a generous 16 years old. Ah well. And now for my top ten: 1. Cat stevens- Teaser and the firecat 2. Belle and S- Boy With the Arab Strap 3. Hefner- the singles album...Boxing w/ hefner 4. Spiritualized- let it come down 5. Cocteau twins- Treasure 6. Beatles- Revolver 7. Elton John- Madman across the Water 8. Elliot smith- Figure 8 9. White Stripes- White blood cells 10. (going along with someothers) The smiths- Queen is dead I love you all kate of c +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keleidoscopic at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 01:37:41 2002 From: keleidoscopic at xxx.com (Chris Paluch) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian V. Conan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020426003741.44080.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Well it may not be an epic battle, or even if it is not a battle, Belle and Sebastian are making thier first major Tv appearance in the United States tommorow night(Friday April 26 on Late Night with Conan), marking one of the best weeks ever in late night tv music in the United States (Wilco, Elvis C. and Belle and Sebastian all in one week). So watch it. Dammit. Also get the Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, it is probably one of the best american albums in years, one of the rare gems of an album that can be called perfect. Even if it is a little off topic, you should check out the album. And I get to see Belle and Sebastian Soon, Yeah!!! Chris P. ===== Music like winter. www.mp3.com/sevenstars __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 03:09:45 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 03:09:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: thank you! Message-ID: Thank you, thank you, thank you to everyone who came to the club tonight. It was wonderful and only because you were there to dance and enjoy it! For those who didn't quite make it to the end, the last two songs were as follows: "The End Of The Affair" ("This is it, isn't it, this is the end...") "Homeward Bound" Aww. Have a good weekend everyone! xx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hazygreyeyes at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 04:48:02 2002 From: hazygreyeyes at xxx.com (frith on the hills) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 20:48:02 -0700 Subject: Sinister: top 10 all time discs Message-ID: Okay, I'm gettin' mine in, too: top ten albums of all time: 1.ride - nowhere 2. my bloody valentine - loveless 3. cocteau twins - heaven or las vegas 4. david bowie - ziggy stardust 5. t. rex - electric warrior 6. stereolab - emporer tomato ketchup 7. nick drake - pink moon 8. belle & sebastian - if you're feeling sinister 9. slowdive - souvlaki 10. pink floyd - piper at the gates of dawn top ten contendahz: 11. neu! - s/t 12. tortoise - tnt 13. godspeed you black emporer! - f# a# (infinity) 14. leonard cohen - the songs of leonard cohen 15. pulp - different class 16. kraftwerk - autobahn 17. trans am - futureworld 18. rachel's - selenography 19. yes - the yes album 20. blur - leisure _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 06:23:39 2002 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 00:23:39 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Oh no...lists on a list Message-ID: Goodness gracious me. These top 10 lists are fun, but annoying at the same time. How am I supposed to judge every album I have and place them in a top 10? Oh, it's difficult. I'm going to take this time to just spout out ten of my favourites. I'm really just...procrastinating, but whatever. This is in no particular order: Belle and Sebastian "Boy With the Arab Strap" - It's personal to me, because it was my first and it evokes a gorgeous mood that no other album has ever been able to do. It's wonderful. The Clash "London Calling" - After years of indie-tweeness or whatever, I discovered this album, and found I like to rock. It's absolutely amazing all the way through. Each song gets me jumping or angry or sad or happy or whatever. It excites me everytime. Plus "The Card Cheat" has some of the saddest imagery I've ever heard. Radiohead "OK Computer" - This was very important to me as well. I bought it the day it came out, and listened to it virtually every day for a year. I'm not sure why, but I did. And I still love it. To a Smashing Pumpkins fan, it was a huge kick in the face. Well, it was for me. Billy Bragg and Wilco "Mermaid Ave." - What can you say about this album? It's fantastic. The Smiths "The Queen is Dead" - One of the first albums I ever heard that can be deeply sad, yet very amusing at the same time. Tracy Thorn "A Distant Shore" - So sue me, this is one of the perfect albums for some reason. She's got a great voice and the songwriting is terrific. Maybe it's just a personal thing. The Clash "Sandinista!" - A bit long perhaps, a bit much as well, but brilliant anyway. An incredible statement from one of the most impressively evolving bands. Ever. It makes me actualy enjoy reggae (although it's still only white-boy reggae, but give me a break). Blur "Blur" - I know I know, but I'm still young and it was the first album I ever liked all the way through. It turned me on to looking for stuff in magazines and paying attention to stuff critics mention. That's how I got into all this stuff in the first place. The Flaming Lips "Hit to Death in the Future Head" - Great, fuzzy, rock. Perfect for a hot summer day for some reason. Taught me buying something I've never heard before can be a wonderful thing. Tom Waits "Closing Time" - Is there a sadder, more beautiful song then "Martha"? Probably, but I can't think of it right now. Well, that was some pretentious wankery, wasn't it? I had fun though. I got pissed off about my papers and everything on Tuesday, so I just hopped in my car and drove the 6 hours to Athens alone to see Beulah. I met some smashing people, and it was a lot of fun. There's something oddly freeing about just dropping everything and driving on an open road for a long period of time. Maybe it's because I'm American and we have some sort of fixation on driving across big spaces. Is it a power thing? Do you Non-Americans feel this way? I can't wait until the belles concerts. I hope I can make it through exams and final papers okay. Peace out, -Matt P.S.: Yes Ann, it was me. You should still vent it anyway. Just send it to me if you don't want to bug anyone else. I love kindred spirits in times of despair. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From loulouhex at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 06:29:54 2002 From: loulouhex at xxx.com (Vilkas .) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 01:29:54 -0400 Subject: Sinister: top 10 all time discs Message-ID: All Time Top Ten Favourite Discs: 1. Pancakes 2. Frisbees 3. Bicycle wheels 4. Car wheels 5. The Vinyl album format 6. The CD format 7. The Disc sled cos you go so fast and so out of control down snowy hills 8. My friend Bill's half inch wooden ear discs that he lathed himself 9. Cookies / Biscuits 10. Sliced carrots I'm sorry. Lurrve, Vilkassssss _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beiaardhorse at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 07:38:59 2002 From: beiaardhorse at xxx.com (Aruni J) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 02:38:59 -0400 Subject: Sinister: about a boy, but not really Message-ID: kate said >Funny as it is, I jsut finnished every work by Nick Horney and open my box >to see a Top Ten?!? Wild. How many of you don't want to see Hugh Grant >play Will from About A Boy. Though I am really looking forward to the film. i saw a tv commercial for the film a couple of days ago. i was all, "huh?" and it was all, "sit down and shut up." well, not really. but i'd heard of _about a boy_ because badly drawn boy did the soundtrack (which was recently released, and has gotten good reviews). i don't know why the existence of the soundtrack caused me to be confused about the existence of the film, but there it is. i haven't read the book, so i can't comment on hugh grant's suitability for the part...i suppose i prefer him as the charming befuddled englishman in _four weddings and a funeral_. kate also said she's 16, which made me shed a tear for my lost youth. i recently turned 22 years old. it happened with more of a deflating noise than a bang, but what will you? i had exams the next week. my boyfriend called me up and had "desolation row" cued to the part about ophelia: "on her 22nd birthday, she already is an old maid." luckily, those lines are every third thing out of his mouth, so i was not shocked. all this to say that despite my best efforts, time's keeping tabs on me. disjointedly, aruni p.s. exercising self-restraint here not to add to the top ten listage, i want to express my approval of REM's "automatic for the people" being put out there. that cd was my belle and sebastian before i had belle and sebastian. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From christopherdjohnson at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 12:09:44 2002 From: christopherdjohnson at xxx.com (Christopher Johnson) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:09:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: another lowly top 10 Message-ID: hey guys well i love top 10s and so far noone has put one up that i thought was truly awful so i thought i might try myself 1. Meat is murder - the smiths (might not be as technically great as the others but its my fave) 2. The lad with an arabian strap (or something like that, can't remeber the bands name) 3. The Velvet Underground and Nico 4. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless 5. Its a shame about ray - the lemonheads 6. Station to Station - David Bowie 7. Kind of Blue - Miles Davis 8. Trompe le Monde - The pixies (again, see #1) 9. Come on Die Young - Mogwai 10. Mutations - Beck well there we go. what fun. so summers getting that little closer and for all students on the list so are exams. Hurrah! don't you just love the exhilerating feeling of going into the hall with all this amazing knowledge in your head that you're just desperate to share with the marker? Me neither. I actually like the academic life, i really do, lectures can be fascinating and tutorials great fun but this idea of having to PROVE that you are actually learning really sucks. So I'm sure someone can come up with a great reason as to why this impinges on personal liberties or something. and once you have a good many of us will be truly delighted as it will give us more time to rush off to beer gardens and blame dean! (thanks) well anyway, i'd best go do some work. so had you. Cheers, Christopher _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kchu at xxx.uk Fri Apr 26 12:27:34 2002 From: kchu at xxx.uk (kchu at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:27:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm whacking off to us (woo! contains a TOP TEN LIST!!!!!) Message-ID: <80256BA7.003EF90B.00@daimlerchryslerservices.co.uk> Last night I forgot my keys when I went out and so when I got back I was locked out and I had to break into my own home, McGuyver style, by climbing on top of my car and thus then over the garage roof with the help of a satallite dish cable and then jumping 10 metres off the roof over a tree into my garden and got in through the back door. It was very exciting and now I have a sore leg. Onto much more exciting news I'm planning on getting a haircut tomorrow, a highly-adventurous "trim", no less, the last two times I had a haircut I ended up going to a B&S gig soon after (for those who study Ken's haircut history it was before the RAH gig last summer, and the QMU gig last Christmas), so who knows what's going to happen this time! I listened to the The Boy with the Arab Strap album last night, and thought that it was very good. I used to think that it is the worst one out of all, but now I think that it isn't, and now I can't stop going "I dreamt Id ta go'a Marrrs" in a Scottish accent. Hooked on the Scot'ish accccent I thought I'd listen to A Century of Elvis as well, aw it was so cute, and when THAT finished, it just seemed fitting to put on A Century of Fakers, which was like some kind of conclusion to it all. And I wondered.. Has anyone tried to mix the two songs together before? Like, DJ style, superimposing one over another? Does it work? Or maybe one song interrupting the other at regular intervals fading in and out? I wanna know. OK... I tried to resist, but the peer pressure of the current LIST CRAZE is just too great. Top 10 sinister post contents ========================= 1. angry leaving posts telling us how they grew out of the list 2. top ten lists 3. one line posts that takes longer to open, than to read 4. top five lists 5. top twenty lists 6. forwarding of jokes/virus warnings onto the list 7. top fifteen lists 8. flirting that's not directed at me 9. top twenty-five lists 10. personal replies sent to the list that is of no interest to anyone of the list apart from the person being replied to Lists and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Now that ALL of the B&S Treasure Hunt trophies have been found, I wonder if the band will release the answers to the various clues for the hunt any time soon. ****************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT This email, its content and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be legally privileged and/or confidential. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Fri Apr 26 10:01:46 2002 From: lulou at xxx.org (lulou) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:01:46 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: List owner message - you may have been expecting this one Message-ID: Thanks to David Moore for keeping an eye on the list, as do others. It is much appreciated. He is perfectly correct: The list rules say: "Don't send lists of your favourite bands/films or anything to the list, and don't join in if someone else asks people to. This is the plague of mailing lists the world over: lists of "things I like" are usually completely useless the other end, and usually mean they want you to know how tasteful they are. If you want to talk about bands you like, tell us why." The last sentence is very important - lists are like junk food - initially satisfying but then leave the list stomach with an empty, unfulfilled gaping hole. Too many of them and they make you sick. I don't really want to read a mailing list like this, and there are 1600 people who see these messages. Put it on a web page and put that in your footer.. I think we have already had a parody - can the lists all stop now, please. Discussions on why Cat Stevens is so great are ok. Analyses of a few songs/albums (within reason) are ok. Lists of his songs aren't. Sorry. Cheers Linda xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unstablemable at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 10:50:25 2002 From: unstablemable at xxx.com (unstable mable) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:50:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Another top ten list.... Message-ID: Do you think it is possible to guess someones age from their top ten list? Maybe only their shoe size... Anyway, for no reason at all other than the fact that i should be writing a project proposal thing for uni, i'm posting my top ten list 1. Rubber Soul - The Beatles (I cant believe no-one has mentioned this album yet as it is the best album ever) 2. Doolittle - Pixies 3. Nevermind -Nirvana 4. FYHCYWLAP - Belle and Sebastian (I hated this album at first, but now i have to listen to it every day - i suspect there are subliminal messages in it as i actually cant leave the house in the morning without listeneing to it) 5. The Bends - Radiohead 6. Slanted and Enchanted - Pavement 7. Dry - PJ Harvey 8. Trailer Park - Beth Orton 9. Through the past, darkly - Rolling Stones 10. When i was born for the 7th time - Cornershop So there we have it, another list which probably no-one will bother reading as there has been top ten saturation or something. I imagine that it wont be long before there is a top 10 ken py chu list...whoever he is.... Mable _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 09:09:51 2002 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:09:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: if i want to read some lists I'll write a shopping list and go shopping with it Message-ID: For the love of God, please can we stop writing lists of top 10 albums. I'm sure everyone has impeccable music taste within their top 10s but as mr Moore (nearly) said "for FAQ'S sake...." And so onto some real content: I went to Brixton Academy. The first time I went there to see a band I was standing right at the back and got deafened; thank you Dinosaur Jr. So it was nice to be at the front and not come away with tinnitus. And a very good gig it was too. Made even better by the fact it only took 20 minutes to go home. I'm sure that I probably saw Sinister types there but it's not really my policy to randomly ask strangers if they are part of an interweb cult. Speaking of which...I saw ken chu. outside the Monarch in "lovely" camden town. I could take him in a fight. And all of his Ken Chuites. But really there seems to be so many of them that he be able to encircle himself with them and he'd be safe. C'est la guerre. I keep seeing people (ok, 3 so far) wandering around with the B&S bags. They are uber-twee and i am going to wait for the executive travel luggage set before parting with hard earned cash. p _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Fri Apr 26 10:45:41 2002 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:45:41 Subject: Sinister: FUCK, FUCK; and even more intelligent words. Message-ID: <301373723@spray.se> FUCK! My fucking crap-e-mail-account said I had to many e-mails, sure, I had like 3000 and I was planning on sorting it out, and now, without warning, it took away all of them except 24! And those were "Only" siniposts! I had some really important e-mails there! FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! I just wanted to shout it out sorry.. My dad and sister won lots of money on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire yesterday, cool. I hope my dad will feel like spending.. hehehe.. no, honestly, i hope he's going to save it.. yeah.. um.. ok.. i've got nothing more to say, except that i'm really PISSED OFF. Grrrrr, Astrid x _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Tävla och vinn med nya Coca-Cola Light i årets roligaste Quiz! http://quiz.spray.se/cocacola +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From benapps at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 13:15:47 2002 From: benapps at xxx.com (Ben Apps) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 13:15:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: fuck this shit, I will confess to you Message-ID: Hi Sinister, I'm not at work. I should be. I'm not sick. Not physically anyway. It's just after 12 noon on a Friday and in the last 24 hours I've made some decisions. My glorified switchboard job which I reverted to after a period of temporary promotion is crippling me with it's banality. I can't face another six months of saying "DTI Enquiries, Ben speaking, How can I help?" only for some rude twat to treat me like something that got stuck on their shoe. *I think I'd better make a move* I wasn't going out yesterday. Economising blah blah....but I changed my mind and after work wended my way along the embankment from Westminster to Blackfriars bridge. What am I doing here, in this city? It's not my home. I turned left up Ludgate and Farringdon Road, avowed to get hammered out of my skull, maybe dance like a maniac and forget it all for a while: my job, my dreams, my girl so far away :( I hadn't done this, walking, thinking, sulking for a while. Not since I quit college and traipsed about Lancaster waiting for nothing. I'm sure it's not 'healthy', but I think I enjoy it in some twisted way. Got to the Old Cock Tavern. No one else is coming. My fault for changing my mind at the last moment. I'm going to give notice on my room, and see if Simmy will let me stay on his sofa again, like when I first moved here. I've either got to do this as soon as possible or not atall. It's not for me to compromise. I don't belong here, I didn't belong *there*, maybe I'll belong *over there*. I know I belong with Rachel. Or at least more than anyone else I could ever imagine. The paper is red. Read. Flyers are distributed. I'll leave it till ten past. Don't want to be the first one there. Oh. I am! Simon and Garfunkel, then Seeing other People. But no-one else is here. Feeling calmer now. Less rage, the music helps. Ian says "Hi". Hi Ian! So no more return trips to CalifornIA. When I go I go for good. When? Two months? Longer? As soon as the VISA comes through, but I'm not pissing about. Shit, I'm smoking. How did that happen? No light, and I'm not asking, so it becomes a chain. God, my throat wrecks now. *FUCK THIS SHIT* Gorgeous. Soaring harmonica. I want to jump aboard and let it carry me away. *My Wandering Days are Over* Not yet. But soon. Six months on.....left the town....feeling melancholy. Heh. Think I'll go home. Hold on, familiar faces. Some conversation. This is novel. But the last tube is iminent. We'll have to cut our pyromania short. At home Rachel is online. Seems so close. This technology is teasing. We lay our emoticons bare. "I'll call you". She likes the plan. What did I do to deserve her? I won't let this slip away. Wake at 9:30. Already late for work. Can't face it. "Team Lunch" this afternoon, let's slag of management and grumble about our lives, but not do a thing to change it. Well I am. self indulgent - check bedroom angst - check too long - check top ten list - damn! Thanks for letting me get it out. see you tomorrow maybe - I'll bring a ball. see YOU forever someday. Ben x _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 16:18:08 2002 From: bellezc at xxx.com (Zoe Charaktinou) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:18:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hahaha Message-ID: Hello all this weirdly weird day here in the wonderful city of Birmingham. First, hail to the ever so gentle David Moore. > >Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 23:59:01 +0100 >From: "David Moore" >Subject: Sinister: I don't understand / The rules of the >game > >Hi Again, >Sorry to forcibly enter your box again so soon. At the >risk of getting a mighty slap for treading on the toes of >our dearly loved List Mums could I >remind readers of the carefully crafted list FAQ ( >http://www.missprint.org/sinister/faq.html ). You know, >that thing they make >you read through the bars of your cot while you're biding >your time in the >Nursery, with the mobile slowly twirling above your >head. I was just reading >No 18, as its one of my favourite ones, especially sub->heading 2, bullet 4 >(what a masterfully crafted document). >Not for any particular reason, mind. >Love to all, >David Moore >Chelmsford, UK --------- On another note, life seems to be getting worse...being a thrid year in uni days away from the end is ever so stresssing. One minute you think , "a month only, yey!" and then you realise " a month only to do the dissertation..oh nooooooooooooo!"... I have 2 presentations for mon-tue...what fun. I was listening today to my favourite greek radio show-thank the kind inventor for the internet- and there go the Falming Lips, shortly followed by Belle&Sebastain and then Camera Obscura.THIS is what I'm missing...not really..as I said, there's always the net...yey! Still I am missing a gig by The (International) Noise Conspiracy...argh... So, for those of you lucky enough to buy, Kerrang!'s cd for issue 900-last week's that is- ROCKS! It's a cd or better: " A suave collection of garage punk nuggets lovingly compiled by THE HIVES", as it reads on the sleeve...MY GOT!(as my neighbour says). The cd has songs from the likes of The Hellacopters, Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, The Dirtbombs, Flaming Groovies (yey!), Oblivians and others that want me to go flying of the roof. The Hellacopters are fast becoming a favourite band I have to say. Yesterday I made a long time wish come true. I became a member of the REM fun club. I had never done it because I don't have a credit card and I really couldn't be bother with the post etc-I'm lazy, sue me. But I was nice to the boyfriend and he said thatI could use his card. Yey!I'm happy. But my back is killing me. At the mo I'm working on these very interesting subjects and with the help of a little list abuse, if by any chance you have any info on the following don't hesitate to contact me I will love you forever: - Linguistic analysis of two political speeches, one from Stalin and one from Gorbachev -Dystopia and fear of technology in films esp. Blade Runner, terminator 2, The Matrix -Presentation on American indie film business I'm also working on two more things but I have forgotten now... Ok I'm off and I will stop boring you. huggles, zoe over and out. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From superh3 at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 16:23:35 2002 From: superh3 at xxx.com (paul hardman) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:23:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: If you don't want to see another list then don't look in here. Message-ID: Whoever was moaning about the lists. Each person that sent in a list clearly stated it in the subject matter. Here's an idea. If you don't like them don't read them..Duh! Judging by the amount of people who sent them in Vs complainers I'd say you've been out-voted and as I said in my last message, I'm living in Amsterdam at the moment where the general feeling here is......wait for it.......Do whatever you Fucking want. Top of my head list. 1.Scalp 2.Hair (Browny) 3.Tips of my ears 4.Hat (additional) 5.Dandruff (Head & shoulders is just too expensive over here) You'll note no worry lines due to the copious amounts of Thai smoked on a daily basis. As for music, should be fairly easy. 1.My Bloody Valentine - Is'nt anything. 2. The Fatima Mansions - Viva dead ponies (what d'ya mean you don't own it). 3.The Roses - The Roses. 4. The Smiths - the Queen is dead. 5. The Pixies - Doolittle. 6. The Velvet Underground - White light white heat. 7. The Velvet Underground - Andy Warhol 8. The Sugarcubes - Life's too good. 9. Stereo Total - Musique L'automatique / Total pop. 10. Belle & Sebastian - If you're feeling Sinister. Stereo Total are on there because I can hardly listen to anything else at the moment oh! except The Beta - band. Well I'm finishing work in 40 mins and heading down to Hill St Blues because it's happy hour and you get a nice pint of Cider (not Strongbow....BAH!) for 2.50 euros. Obviously huge spliff in hand and while it's Friday I might treat myself to an English paper. No good sitting by the back windows near the canal tonight though........It's tipping down here. A lovely weekend to you all. 'H'. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elf-angel at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 17:25:29 2002 From: elf-angel at xxx.com (Bron) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:25:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: List owner message - you may have been expecting this one Message-ID: she sounds like she knows what she's talking about. please don't drive this chick to unsubscribing. thanks ---bron X ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: lulou Sent: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:01:46 +0100 (BST) To: sinister at missprint.org Subject: Sinister: List owner message - you may have been expecting this one Thanks to David Moore for keeping an eye on the list, as do others.  It is much appreciated. He is perfectly correct: The list rules say: "Don't send lists of your favourite bands/films or anything to the list, and don't join in if someone else asks people to.  This is the plague of mailing lists the world over: lists  of "things I like" are usually completely useless the other end, and usually mean they want you to know how tasteful they are. If you want to talk about bands you like, tell us why." The last sentence is very important - lists are like junk food - initially satisfying but then leave the list stomach with an empty, unfulfilled gaping hole.  Too many of them and they make you sick. I don't really want to read a mailing list like this, and there are 1600 people who see these messages.   Put it on a web page and put that in your footer.. I think we have already had a parody - can the lists all stop now, please.   Discussions on why Cat Stevens is so great are ok.  Analyses of a few songs/albums (within reason) are ok. Lists of his songs aren't.  Sorry. Cheers Linda xxx +------------------------------------------------ -------------------------+        +---+  Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list  +---+     To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe     send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to     majordomo at missprint.org.  WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper           +-+ +-+  "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+    "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000     +-+ +-+  "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000  +-+ +-+  "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho- fans" - NME June 2001   +-+ +-+               Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa                 +-+ +-+               Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut!                +-+ +------------------------------------------------ -------------------------+ ---- End Original Message ---- "The differences between what you hope for and what you end up receiving are part of what makes the outside, the hoped for, worthwhile...and beautiful." ---the Lovely Lou http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 17:45:35 2002 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 17:45:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Sigh... Message-ID: <20020426164536.58339.qmail@web10405.mail.yahoo.com> In case David was too subtle, here's List FAQ 18, sub-section 2, point 4 (the bureaucracy wasn't a joke :-)): "Don't send lists of your favourite bands/films or anything to the list, and don't join in if someone else asks people to. This is the plague of mailing lists the world over: lists of "things I like" are usually completely useless the other end, and usually mean they want you to know how tasteful they are. If you want to talk about bands you like, tell us why" This IS a moderated list, and as such has certain rules. Please do read the FAQ, which isn't there to prevent free speech, it's there to maintain a very active, popular mailing list and there are good reasons for all the points contained therein. Much love, Mark xxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From woolything at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 19:09:05 2002 From: woolything at xxx.com (Alasdair Cook) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 18:09:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: But there's lemon ice! Message-ID: Hey Sinister! YOU GROOVE MY MOOVE! Here's my most fun thing for today! Look, it's meeee! Top Ten Pop Wren Ballpoint Pen Ken Jungle Hen Cayenne Every Now And Then All Over Again Yes I Am Your Friend No Come Back 1. You will be thrown off the list 2. Haha! Stop being boring 3. Oooh, some people like to hit you! 4. You will be etc 5. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 6. You will etc 7. I'm going out tonight, I might write a top ten of things I say while I'm there because I really am more interesting than dark matter 8. Remember Linda? Lusardi, yes. Tits. 9. WE DON'T CARE 10. You etc God I love. Alasdair xx _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From staralful at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 19:09:34 2002 From: staralful at xxx.com (Jonathan Skinner) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 19:09:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: we have to go forwards not backwards-upwards not forwards and ever twirling twirling twirling to freedom (screw le pen ) Message-ID: right hello one and all i hope this finds you all in fine fettle. i am in the finest of fine fettles that one could be in and the reason for this is that i am just back from a dalilience en paris for a week which was nice. We managed to goet rather cheap ryanair tickets ?20 (euro) no including taxes which again was rather nice. We saw all the major sights as you do purely because you feel you ought to even though you feel so dirty for doing so. Buti must say it was really nice to see the eiffel tower even though the lowest floor was wrapped up in green netting due to repainting or something. But you will be glad to know we found time to drink even though in one place we went to it ?21 for 3 pints which ahem wasn't nice but the place called le fleche d'or was in an old railway station. The night we went there was pumping techno of the good variety playing and after we were there for a while a ska fusion band got up and played until past 2 which was nice and we were of course surrounded by french women which was grate. We also found a few jazz places near where we were staying which we frequented evening in evening out. Paris suprised me really-i was expecting a mueseum city much like venice but what i got was completly different and i htink i probably liked it so much becuase it defied so many of my expectations. And in the musee d'orsay i saw a guy wearing an ambersand t-shirt i think it was on friday-i nearly said something but didn't- WAS IT YOU?????????????? But alas now i am back to stupid reality even though whilst sitting outside shakespeare and co i was figuring out a way to either convince them i was writer and mooch of them for a while or try and get a job and stay there like my bastard brother (not in the literal sense more in the lucky bastard sort of way) and cousin who get to live there while i have to stay in crappy cork and figure out the best way to get away. An interesting turn of events occured though when we were there when on sunday Le Pen was voted through to the 2nd round of presidential elections- and of course where were we staying? Why at the centre of where the protests were all being held of course BASTILLE so when we coming home in the evenings before going out we had to walk through riot police water cannons people shouting etc which was a rather surreal couple of days- heres hoping that le pen burns in the recesses of hell along with hitler and the third dog that played lassie. Right content time i suppose. Why oh why is it so bloody expensive to get to gastonbury? i live as the crow flies about a 300 mile swim of row from cornwall or bristol so if any sinisterines feel like building a viking row boat or stealing one from the national museum please feel free to contact me and i'll arrange ballaclavas etc. Right now i am back to stupid reality i shall bid you all adieú godspeed remember that baboons do not laugh at each others arses and neither should any of you j ps top tens of any kind both suck and blow +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jpayne at xxx.org Fri Apr 26 19:46:16 2002 From: jpayne at xxx.org (Jenny Payne) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: B&S on TV? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello all, I haven't been able to read all of the Sinister posts lately so stop me if you think that you've heard this one befooorreee..... (hehe) I heard/read somewhere that Belle and Sebastian would be on the Conan O'Brien show tonight (US). True? I'm setting my VCR just in case... Jenny +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 19:12:25 2002 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Caitlin Pigtails) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 19:12:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: this really should have stopped by now In-Reply-To: ; from superh3@hotmail.com on Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 16:23:35 +0100 References: Message-ID: <20020426191225.G4958@candle.btinternet.com> On 26.04.2002 16:23 paul hardman wrote: > Whoever was moaning about the lists. > Each person that sent in a list clearly stated it in the subject > matter. Here's an idea. If you don't like them don't read them..Duh! > Judging by the amount of people who sent them in Vs complainers I'd > say you've been out-voted and as I said in my last message, I'm > living in Amsterdam at the moment where the general feeling here > is......wait for it.......Do whatever you Fucking want. That's not the point. It says in the list rules that you don't post Top 10 Lists to the lists. It always has done. When you signed up, you were sent a copy of the list rules. So if you break them, you can expect to get complaints. Not only that, but one of the people who was moaning was Linda. She is one of the List Mummys, and you *really* don't want to make her angry. It's that simple. It really is. However many people do it, it's still against the rules. xx caitlin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jpayne at xxx.org Fri Apr 26 20:16:59 2002 From: jpayne at xxx.org (Jenny Payne) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:16:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: B&S on TV? II Message-ID: Sweet. They *are* playing. Thanks to those who answered me offlist, and to John, whose message appears below for you all. I've also just heard that Neil Halstead is doing a few dates. Why so few, I wonder? Anyway, he's fantastic.... some of you might be interested: Fri 04/26/02 Washington, DC Metro Cafe Sat 04/27/02 Carrboro, NC Room Four Mon 05/27/02 Brussels, BELGIUM AB Club Jenny ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:53:50 -0600 From: "Wojcik, John" To: 'Jenny Payne' Subject: RE: Sinister: B&S on TV? http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2002/03/1307.cfm "If you can't make it to T.O. or Montreal for the show, or it's just too damned expensive, B&S will appear on Late Night With Conan O'Brien on April 26. We know it's not the same, but it may be your only chance to see the camera-hating band for some time." Can you post this? My work e-mail client doesnt play well with sinister. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinepainter at xxx.net Fri Apr 26 20:36:55 2002 From: lazylinepainter at xxx.net (Salp) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:36:55 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I got caught up... Message-ID: <003601c1ed59$bb9486b0$08a8b041@salp> Guys, I confess I was caught up in the list fever and just added to the mayhem. I hope the group can forgive me for my misguided post. Well that's enough bout that. On a brighter not, I extremely pumped for B & S on Conan tonight, i just heard about it today, and I had to investigate for myself and it looks as if it is a go. Now I just hav to wait 9 hours.... Matthew +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From radioheadtom at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 21:00:53 2002 From: radioheadtom at xxx.com (Radiohead Tom) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 20:00:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Another ten list with explaination Message-ID: Hello every one, it's the first i write on this mailing list, so i hope you'll understand me, i'm french and i 'm not perfect in english. I like to see which other band people who heards B&S like. And in fact, i don't know a lot of them ! So i'm gonna download a lot of music ! I would say for my ten list... 1. A Night At The Opera, Queen Just because i totally fell in music with Bohemian Rhapsody And Love Of My Life, or '39... Freddie Mercury has a such thing in his voice... I can't explain. 2.If You're feeling sinister, because it's the worst album that i've ever heard. 3.Among My Swan, Mazzy Star I was in a disc shop, and there was this music in background... When i hear the voice of Hope Sandoval... That's very deep, oh, i can't find my words !!!! Just listen Flowers In December, or Look On Down From The Bridge. 4.Good Morning Spider, Sparklehorse A very great album, great band. I saw them live, it was beautiful. It's very personnel. I love the last album too, and i''m still waiting for the first one 5.Bavarian Fruit Bread, Hope Sandoval and The Warm Inventions The singer of Mazzy Star, songs more acoustic but so great. Charlotte is certainly one of the best songs i have ever heard. 6.Adore, The Smashing Pumpkins I love the ambiance of this album, something particular, and i don't find how to explain... but i think you all know it ! 7.Daisies Of the Galaxies - Eels I like a lot this album, some says that he copies, but this album makes happy. Good thing ! 8.Agaetis Byrjun, Sigur Ros Something maybe very special, but... !!! A marine trip ! Very very nice. 9.13 tales from urban bohemia, The Dandy Warhols Just because, i like it, and that's all ! 10.Queen Of the Meadow, Elysian Fields Jennifer Charles has a so great voice, different from hope sandoval, more sensual, sexual, and just great !!! So i've certainly miss some very good album, but thats my favorite one i think! Bye Thomas _________________________________________________________________ Rejoignez le plus grand service de messagerie au monde avec MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aorta47 at xxx.com Fri Apr 26 21:02:54 2002 From: aorta47 at xxx.com (mmm skyscraper) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 13:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Chelsea didn't feel like following the rules Message-ID: <20020426200254.8756.qmail@web11807.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Sinister, In response to being a newbie, I'm sorry for any errors made on my part. I'm also looking forward to the Conan O'Brien show and could be persuaded to make copies for anyone who misses it. Also I've heard that CNBC in Europe shows repeats of Conan. Check your local listings. As for current rule breaking, I have set up a list that specifically allows for all rules of the Sinister FAQ to be violated. Send your top tens here. albionsounds-subscribe at yahoogroups.com Thanks to the list mummy for keeping us in check. Mark p.s. I have no idea if they will ever release the clues to the treasure hunt. I'll ask at the Atlanta show if it comes up. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From s_gazzetti at xxx.ar Fri Apr 26 21:43:43 2002 From: s_gazzetti at xxx.ar (=?iso-8859-1?q?sgazzetti?=) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 17:43:43 -0300 (ART) Subject: Sinister: in fact I already hate her boyfriend! Message-ID: <20020426204343.68202.qmail@web14403.mail.yahoo.com> O, Sinistri-- I should start by saying that I recently discovered that ‘O’, which looks like a vocative, is in Slovene, equivalent to ‘Hi’. So, Hi. There were so many things in the last days’ mailings I wanted to address, but I won’t even scratch the surface here, na zalost. This is a posting of great joy, which may come as a shock to any who regularly read my usual whinging notes. I actually said out loud as I delved through my inbox, really, no kidding, “I love the internet.” What I should say is, maudlin as it may be, I love *you*. Okay. That utter crap, sincere though it may've been, just lost half of my potential readership. In the interest of disclosure, I should also say that a big part of why I love this place is the people who’ve reached out to me, who’ve included me in their worlds, in the music that makes them whirr, and so forth. For this reason, the recent thread of Hornsbyesque top ten discs has gripped me, because in my shallowness of just two years ago when I first became aware of B&S, my main motive for being On The List was to try to cull musical recommendations. Brain-picking. I wanted to know what ELSE I was missing. Also, in my current music vacuum, I need input. So clearly the recent postings from all of you about Spiritualized and Souvlaki and Elliot Smith have made me want to run out and buy CDs (if they were available in TFY and they’re not), but in my scant two years of listing I’ve also learnt that everything you all like is not necessarily what I will like. Still, many people who’ve guided me (and some who’ve done much more than that) have put me onto music that has changed my world. I think they know who they are. But in the interest of disclosure, I should say that a few subscribers will recognise themselves as agents of goodness in my musical soul. Blah blah blah. Everyone who sent me recordings of Hefner, Cinerama, Ant, Low or Travis or even new B&S while I was living in the CD-free zone of Argentina RULZ. I guess that’s cutting to the chase. And any of you who haven't sent such mailings to people in remote parts: get busy. Mailing is cheap in the first world, and there's yet a lot of joy to sow. Other nice news: I learned tonight that I will be travelling to “Spačekijada” on the Dalmatian coast for my five-day May Day holiday. Just in case one or two of you aren’t familiar with the idea of “Spačekijada”, I will explain. The Spaček is a make of Citroën automobile, sort of like the Volkswagen Beetle only boxier, and for a long time it was very cheap and therefore literally “popular” everywhere in Europe, even Yugoslavia. Spačekijada is a big gathering, sort of a Woodstock of owners of these ancient plywood-esque cars, and this year it is being held in Istra, Croatia--at least the local version is; keep your eyes peeled for your chance to attend one closer to home. I am going not because I own one of these crackerboxes, but because my old friend from Sarajevo does, and that will bring him close to me. So we will reunite at “Spačekijada”! (Since I have this weird land-mine phobia). Yet BIGGER news! I am GOING to Benicássim (sources, even Spanish ones, disagree on the accent--grave or acute?--discuss). But yes. I had intended maybe to go in any case, but was feeling a bit wanchancy about it, since driving all the way from Slovenia to Spain is a lot of fuel and a lot of solitude even for me, but I have just received word that a List Friend (the best one, in fact) is, YES! free to visit during my August break, and that wild horses or at least wild dormice would be necessary to keep us from the Costa Brava or Costa Daurada or Costa Blanca or whatever Costa actually obtains in that exact area. I am very jazzed about this idea, and hope to hear from others who will be there. I have a lot of fish to fry in España already, but I am greedy for aún más. This brings me to a question broached by M. Henderson, about (North) Americans’ willingness to drive long distances. Maybe I am still not sensitive to the differences in fuel prices--gasoline here costs at least twice what gli Statiunitensi are used to paying for it, although Slovenija has some of the lowest gas prices in Europe (and nothing I’ve experienced yet compares to the prices Argentines pay), but it seems to be true that distances are relative, and for people used to driving from, for example, Montana to Maine and back, jaunting up to Prague or over to Barcelona doesn’t seem to be a big deal--even though it costs. When I drove down to Rímini recently, to me it was not A Big Deal. People I talked to here acted as though I’d gone to St. Petersburg for the weekend. It’s all about perspective, I suppose, Matt, and growing up on such a gigantic politically contiguous land mass inures us to distance. I guess I need to tour the CIS or Jupiter. And while doing so pull out “London Calling” and “Sandinista!” again--definitely seminal albums in my little life. Thanks for mentioning them and reminding me. Will keep this ‘short’ (at least in North American highway distance terms) and send more vacant thoughts later. Thanks to all who’ve brightened my days with recent posts. Nazdravje! JDS P.S. Oh and this: In response to Dean’s call for a healthy debate re: the nature of jaffa cakes-- >>> ps - jaffa cakes. are they cakes or are they biscuits? time for a healthy debate please>>> I submit this, quoted in its entirety from my handy desk reference book, “The Oxford Guide to British and American Culture”: “Jaffa cakeä / n a type of biscuit-shaped cake containing orange jelly and covered on one side with chocolate. Jaffa cakes are made by *McVitie’s.” The asterisk indicates that McVitie’s rates its own entry in “The Oxford Guide to British and American Culture”. I think that “biscuit-shaped cake” is a pretty clear indication that Jaffa cakes are *cakes*. Conectate a Internet GRATIS con Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmk43 at xxx.edu Fri Apr 26 20:59:06 2002 From: jmk43 at xxx.edu (jmk43 at xxx.edu) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: this really should have stopped by now In-Reply-To: <20020426191225.G4958@candle.btinternet.com> Message-ID: In case anyone mistakenly took offense to my previous email, I want to make clear that it was a parody email of top ten lists, that's right a paradoy, nyah... you see cause brad pitt was only in two of those movies for like a minute. -jer On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Caitlin Pigtails wrote: > > On 26.04.2002 16:23 paul hardman wrote: > > Whoever was moaning about the lists. > > Each person that sent in a list clearly stated it in the subject > > matter. Here's an idea. If you don't like them don't read them..Duh! > > Judging by the amount of people who sent them in Vs complainers I'd > > say you've been out-voted and as I said in my last message, I'm > > living in Amsterdam at the moment where the general feeling here > > is......wait for it.......Do whatever you Fucking want. > > That's not the point. It says in the list rules that you don't post > Top 10 Lists to the lists. It always has done. When you signed up, > you were sent a copy of the list rules. So if you break them, you can > expect to get complaints. > > Not only that, but one of the people who was moaning was Linda. She is > one of the List Mummys, and you *really* don't want to make her angry. > > It's that simple. It really is. However many people do it, it's still > against the rules. > > > > xx > caitlin > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Sat Apr 27 01:15:56 2002 From: bellezc at xxx.com (Zoe) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 01:15:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: good music, good sites Message-ID: Hello again!Remember me? So, yeah. I have just peeled myself off the sofa after watching Jools Holland. I had decided not to watch his show because it makes me depressed as it features GRRRRRRREAT bands that I want to see but I can't or have seen and want to see again and again and again and again...you get my point. BUT, as I was flicking after watching BBC24-that boring...sigh- he was talking to Patti Smith and I couldn't resist. She's amazing methinks;I had the pleasure of seeing her live a few years ago and she was fantastic. Anyhow back to Live with Jools Holland, she then went on to perform Dancing Barefoot, a great song which it is lucky to have been covered very nicely indeed by U2 methinks again. But the unexpected was a song by Jon Spencer Blues Explosion -no bass, but piano by Holland...and there I was thinking shit-shit-shit-my-stupid-money-problems-£123-overdrawn-stupid-Zoe-ARGH!(I'm sure this isn't making any sense...)What I'm trying to say is that Mr. Spencer swung his sexy hips and boogie-woogied like hell doing all the rockabilly moves that I'm sure he practices in front of a mirror ,that had him on Mr. Holland's piano doing the all-time-r'n'r move of being on his knees while his guitar was masterfully abused and I was wishing I HAD gone to THAT gig in Athens in 1997 and then THAT gig in Manchester in 2002. Still, life is great. I will definitely miss Jools Holland in summer-unless he's not on which then makes it ok. OH! I want to tell you now about this ...thing I discovered-even though I am sure that quite of you will know about. OK, here goes. There is this web-design company called hi-res!- www.hi-res.net- that has made , amongst others, sites for films like Requiem for a Dream and The Business of Strangers and is responsible for Playstation 2. These guys do amazing stuff that have you gripped on your desk. They, also, have an experimental site called Soulbath- www.soulbath.com - which is MY FAVOURITE SITE EVER! In summer 2000, and as I was enjoying the then newly discovered fun of surfing the net I somehow ended up in soulbath. I never bookmarked and then I came back to the UK and then had my pc shipped over but it came broken and lalalala..the point is I had forgotten the address. So the other day my neighbour tells me about a way cool site of a film called Donnie Darko- www.donniedarko.com - which I visited and then went on to enter the site of the designers and lo and behold it was them! I know this is a confusing story but I was so happy. In soulbath apart from various installations they have that thing where you can use your keyboard to make music there and then. But you have to explore the place really well. It's got more stuff than you think. I suggest it. OK. I won't go on more. I just really wanted to share these really cool stuff. Many kisses Zoe +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mikesjobeck at xxx.com Sat Apr 27 02:22:12 2002 From: Mikesjobeck at xxx.com (Mikesjobeck at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 21:22:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: staging the plagueing of the top ten list / fancy a quick one? re-visited BABY! Message-ID: une. "if your feeling sinister" by > belle and sebastian its probably tacky to confess this on the "sinister" list ? but truely such an impressive collection of sound melody and lyrical charm... much more resembling dream soaked settings of sorts, that un-fold so perfectly well from the opening "stars of track and field" to the brilliant closing "judy and the dream of horses" well i wonder? are these very images that accompany each particular song near to what runs through some of your own minds??? my favorite record of all time!!!! deux. "hatful of hollow" by THE SMITHS although "the queen is dead" which appeared 2 years after, is almost unanimously considered their greatest artistic achievment! its this one that really kills me! bah!! The greatest quotable record of all-time!!! trois. "exile in guyville" by LIZ PHAIR Coming out in 1993, this one exploded on to that post-grunge scene...! 18 tracks of pure terror from a young mans point of view!!! but i sure loved these songs...! esp. > "fuck and run" and "help me mary please" quatre. "either/or" by ELLIOTT SMITH a junkies christmas on earth! but even if you don't fuck with the spoon elliott will be sure to let you know your in for it good for being strong and choosing love instead "between the bars" :/ cinq. "agaelis byrjun" by SIGUR ROS maybe it helps not to understand these peculiar icelandic words??? but YES! they do sound like a family of crying whales lost in a mysterious, fogladen sea... and for some reason, this rather appeals to me...? six. "another green world" by BRIAN ENO like sigur ros, all these seemingly otherworldly compositions provoke the soul to action!!! if your a creative artist, you will understand this completely... sept. "nowhere" by RIDE i was in love at the time!! and I met her on one of those streaking trains with the full moonlight splashed all over us...! "as the train rushes past, like a life gone to fast" huit. "mars audiac quintet" by STEREOLAB what would a top ten list be worth without including these damn socialists!!! neuf. "crooked rain, crooked rain" by PAVEMENT not only a hilarious poke in your face towards the establishment, the man, the cops, the heat, the fuzz but a smashing collection of tunes as well.......! dix. "thank god for mental illness" by THE BRIANJONESTOWN MASSACRE this record cost them barely $17.27 to record! one of these tracks has been covered by the dandy warhols and on another, while it was being recorded in the studio the singer gets a huge extension cord and goes streaking into the middle of hollywood bvd. shouting bible quotes to the horrified passer byes :/ sorry... this won't happen again. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From KevShindig at xxx.com Sat Apr 27 05:26:12 2002 From: KevShindig at xxx.com (KevShindig at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 00:26:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: dot dash dot Message-ID: The surreal high point of my day was the Greek pizza joint. I work for a television station in Boston, and today I had to get up at a ridiculously early hour and set up video equipment to record a Superior Court Hearing. It involved a lot of waiting around for things to start, but I did manage to finish reading Aimee Bender's "An Invisible Sign of My Own" during all of it (really, really great book.....but you probably already knew that). After more work-related tomfoolery, I was really, really hungry. Spending nearly all my cash on an ill-conceived plan to see as many Belle and Sebastian live shows as possible next month (200 dollars for second row seats in Boston? Sign me the hell up!) has left me a bit on the broke side, so my options were basically pizza or gumballs. At the pizza stand (I'd had gumballs for breakfast) the jaunty Greek fellow who ran the establishment saw me emerge from the work-mobile, with the big t.v. station logo on the side. He then proceeded to harangue me, at len gth, about satellite television stations. Sometimes in Greek, sometimes in English. I caught about every, oh, fifth word. I did not, however, want to appear impolite, so I tried to nod a lot and interject with positive, non-commitall statements like, "Boy, I hear that!" and "You ain't just whistling dixie, Bucko!" This seemed to get him even MORE animated, and he shouted "Do you know how many people in Greece watched the American Superbowl?", then he paused, as if he expected me to answer. After a too-long silence he blurted, "TWO AND A HALF MILLION!" "Wow", I responded, not knowing what else to say. I was enjoying the good-natured back-and-forth with my new pal, but all this human interaction was, admittedly, keeping him from giving me the slice of pizza which, at this point, I was anticipating so much that I kept singing the bit in the Turbonegro song "The Age of Pampirus" where they yell, "So you say you want a piece of pizza? WELL NOT LIKE THIS!!!" over and over in my head. I figured the only way to really kill the conversation was to explain, in great detail, the plot of a comic book I had read when I was elementary school (which has stuck with me lo these many years in the parts of my brain where, say, the ability to tell right from left should be) wherein the culinary dish known as "pizza" was invented by the evil G.I. Joe villain Serpentor during one of his past lives. I didn't actually tell the pizza guy this; I figured he'd find it boring (luckily, I have no such compuctions now!) but between the Turbonegro song and the comic book plot and the instinctual parts of me screaming "HUNGRY!" my brian was getting pretty noisy. "I'm sorry", I told him, "I really have to go." I took my pizza slice and left. I've had better, but not recently. Kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tsong at xxx.edu Sat Apr 27 06:44:07 2002 From: tsong at xxx.edu (Tsong) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 01:44:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: B&S on TV Message-ID: <009f01c1edae$8ccca9c0$e64017ac@resnet.rutgers.edu> Man I was kind of disappointed that they played I'm Waking Up to Us... I didn't really like that song... And it wasn't like, a catchy song people play on TV... I guess that's good... If they played like The Model or something people would probably run out and buy their albums and stuff... I'd rather them stay aloof. -Elsa +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stringbeanjean1 at xxx.com Sat Apr 27 10:03:11 2002 From: stringbeanjean1 at xxx.com (juju fox) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 02:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: seeking a man who's either rich or using an accent Message-ID: <20020427090311.93675.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> halo sinister. this will be short, as i just stayed up to watch conan, and am now going to sleep with dreams of sugary stu dancing in my head. b&s were grate as expected. my tv usually doesn't get decent reception on major networks, especially on rainy april nights when there's a full moon. somehow the rabbit ears worked wonders tonight, and i watched happily along with my cat harrison as the sweetest working band alive crooned onscreen. also on my side: housemate was out, so my sporatic outbursts such as "stevie, you're soo cute!" and "aw, sarah!" did not disturb... it was a keen surprise to find a former crush, alan cumming, was a guest as well. the boys at work used to giggly incessantly whenever i'd speak his name... i never did understand it. *sigh* single white fox seeking scottish love, juju __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Sat Apr 27 11:50:13 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 11:50:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: exploding starfish Message-ID: <20020427105013.58571.qmail@web14408.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everybody. Well i don't know. I was thinking about my top ten postings (I'd like to add smashing pumpkins - siamese dreams and pavement - crooked rain cooked rain) and i know it's against the rules and a bit of a boring post. I'm sorry to anyone who got a bit pissed off about it, I won't do it again, and here's a top ten list of reasons why I won't - only kidding! Then again, it did get quite a few responses and I did get a lot of ideas for new music to buy. Cat stevens (sp?) will be investigated! (Thanks to Caitlin for her support) I realise the group is for other stuff apart from music but surely music is the main reason and the subject matter in most posts. Fair enough, all I'm saying is I know I shouldn't have posted it but no harm done *smile*. I'm hungover and want to go to the pub again - have i got a problem? anybody want to join me? I'll be in the southfield at about 2ish, probably playing pool. see you later sandinistas Dean XXX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ubootscooby6 at xxx.com Sat Apr 27 12:47:01 2002 From: ubootscooby6 at xxx.com (scooby *) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 11:47:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: in the city with the chick and the hairy guy Message-ID: am reading emails and watching pepsi chart show(waiting for 'popular'! sad but true) and it said that 'in the city' by the jam is being re-released next week in limited copies and at original price , also on subject of all things retro>> please read 'the rotters club' by jonathon coe<< his best yet scooby xx ps the temporary anarchy was fab _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sat Apr 27 13:24:09 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 05:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: work work work....chew chew chew Message-ID: <20020427122409.56466.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Hiya.. Its been a while since my last post, so a quick personsl recap on my life so far,for those of you who enjoy reading my posts and having a good old nosey about other peoples lives. (I bet you watch a lot of docu-soaps and fly on the wall type programmes too, don't you? Sinister I guess, is a bit like that sometimes). I've started a new job,working for The Scottish Parliament. I'm working in the Bills unit (making up Bills to be passed and argued by a bunch of MSPs and turned into laws and stuff.) Its quite an interesting job. We're up to all sorts of things, including creating one for children's rights, and one about windfarms, and one about improving train services, and one about litter, and one for prostitution tolerance zones. Its all quite interesting, sort of doing things that might affect the lives of everyone living in Scotland. Its not about arguing a case why a law or Bill should be passed, but collating information from all sources about the topic, which then goes on to help crate the Bill itself. I got to sit in a meeting two weeks ago with lots of MSPs. Lord James Douglas Hamilton was sitting in front of me, and I was taking notes for my boss. I had my notes on my lap, and kept dropping all my bits of paper under Lord James' seat. The novelty factor still hasn't waned yet. Theres a big x ray machine for visitors (like at airports) in reception, and theres lots of police wandering about who chat to us. I missed seeing the sniffer dogs on the first day back from recess unfortunately. And theres is underground tunnel between two of the buildings. Its quite odd, the other day, when I came back from lunch, and there was all these protesters standing outside my office. After five minutes of politely trying to get passed, I decided enough was enough and pushed my way through. Nobody was going to stop me from sitting at my desk eating my Marks and Spencer sandwiches. But then they were getting cars to toot their horns as they drove by, which was most annoying, as it put me off reading my horoscope in the Metro. Silly people anyway. There was no MSPs in my building. We're just ordinary joes and josphines, sitting doing background work with no influence over what goes on, and eating our lunch. I keep getting stopped in the street by people asking questions about the parliament or about Edinburgh in general, whenever I wear my seurity badge. I've taken to calling it my wierdo magnet, and not wearing outside the office anymore. I got some good news yesterday! I found out that I'm actually earning more than I was actually quoted by my agency when I took this job. Two grand more. Two grand can buy you an awful lot of belle and sebastian tea towels. In fact, you could probably buy one, and then when its dirty, throw it away and buy a new one. But I'm not really going to do that. I've also given up smoking. I went out last night with a bunch of pals, and went to dinner and then out to the Citrus CLub, where I shook my funky booty to lots of 70's and 80's punky alternative indie stuff. Was it called indie in the 70's? Anyway, I only had one lapse, one ciggarette, out of the whole evening, which is pretty good considering I'd usually smoke about twenty in a night. I've only given up for a week, but I'm still quite happy. I'm chewing nicotine gum like its oxygen. Seeing as theres been a top ten theme going on in sinister recently, I thought I'd add my own top ten. TOP TEN DIFFERENCES BETWEEN NICOTINE GUM AND CIGARETTES 1. Chewing nicotine gum is not seen as anti social, but smoking is. 2. You can chain chew and nobody comments on it. 3. Nobody gets upset it you chew the gum while other people are eating. 4. You can chew the gum in no smoking areas. 5. It costs �5 a pack, but a pack lasts me 4 days. And that works out as being �4.60 cheaper for every four days than cigarettes. 6. It doesn't smell, or make you smell, or make your clothes smell. 7. You can do it at your desk at work 8. Unlike menthol cigarettes, the minty taste of gum is a lot nicer. 9. Its not bad for your health, nor addictive. It has nicotine in it, but its not something you can transfer your addiction onto, it curbs the feeling rather than give you something new to get hooked on. 10. People are more approving of it than of cigarettes. I'm sure theres a lot of better reasons, but those are my ones. Anyway, better go... love idles ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Sat Apr 27 19:03:57 2002 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 13:03:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Masters and servants, servants and masters Message-ID: I'm leaving to the see the Super Furries in a bit, but I have to write a paper before I go. However, there is one thing I have to ask. For those of you who saw our lovely belles on Conan last night, was isobel not there? The cellist didn't look like her, but they never ever showed a closeup. They just cut right as the camera got onto her. But why would they sit a back-up musician so far away from the others? And in, what is genearlly, isobel's place? Is she not on the tour? I would also like to apologize for endorsing the Top 10 list thing. I did not realize it was against list rules. Come to think of it, I really don't remember that in the list rules. My mind is going in my old age, so I'm going to go reread them to refresh my memory before I do something else. However, you have to understand that many on the list are music geeks, and music geeks LOVE top 10 lists. It's just a can of worms that should never be opened. One last point, an old lady came into the record store where I work. She picked up the "I'm Waking Up to Us" 12" and asked what it was. I told her it was the newest Belle and Sebastian single. She told me that was her favourite breed of dog, and she promptly bought it. It's kind of endearing in a way, but I don't think she'll play it. I wonder if it could have gone to a better home. Ah well, it made her happy. Now if I can only explain the old lady who came in looking for deleted nine inch nails and smashing pumpkins singles...for herself. Red-faced with top 10s -Matt _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gummi at xxx.net Sat Apr 27 19:25:24 2002 From: gummi at xxx.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Gu=F0mundur_J=F3hannsson?=) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 18:25:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Century of lamers! Message-ID: <000001c1ee18$e614c070$6400000a@b14> Hello all! Hope you are enjoying your weekend! Did anyone perhaps put the B&S performance from Conan to a digital format? It´s pretty hard to get Conan here in Iceland so I have a little chance of seeing them. I ripped the Vancouver concert from justconcerts.com to a big mp3 file. If anyone wants it and has a fat internet connection just send me a line! Best of wishes! Gummi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elf-angel at xxx.com Sun Apr 28 03:14:59 2002 From: elf-angel at xxx.com (Bron) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 21:14:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: perhaps i'm just a silly school girl Message-ID: <9F29F35439F100749BA7E5E809778B24@elf-angel.wildmail.com> dear sinister yes i know you've heard from me enough this week...but seriously, who can help but write to such beautiful people as yourselves? especially when the mind is going on into overdrive with the billions of emotions and all their own slight characteristics that make them individually known? did that make sense? anyway, i have thin skin when it comes to my heart. whatever i feel, it shows like a red balloon on a sunny day. ...at least i'm brave. since i last posted with my distress, things have begun to mend themselves. it didn't take long, as not many things in my life do... efficiency, simplicity. that is the key. that is how i'm built. go in. come out. success? maybe. (don't be perverted you silly people WAHA :-) at any rate, it rained a lot today. a lot a lot. but i mustered up my courage and went out in it. i bought some hiking boots. oh yes, this mountain girl will return. i don't know how or when or for how long. the answer to the question "why" is certain though. why do i keep talking about myself?!? i hate talking about myself too much. let's talk about you. what's up in your life? i would say we could talk about others, but god who wants to gossip? especially at this hour! (insert surprised giddy giggle here ). aight. the point of this post. are you ready? ...i can't hear you!!! ARE YOU READY?? (haha) so i put "i'm waking up to us" in the cd player tonight. i haven't especially listened to it all that much since i purchased it. but it was a random call on my part... and wouldn't you know it: the track "marx and engels" played. i mean it's your classic b&s. the sound, the beat, the harmony vocals, the whole shabang of how it's put together, it's signature sound overall. and yet. AND YET. it's the ending, man. it's that fabulous piano with the faint hinting of flute......... it's stolen my heart. yeah. that was the point of this post. sorry it took so long to arrive at. but why apologize? i'm an american. i've got rights! (insert snickering from the peanut gallery here) funky rainy love to you all, may sunshine pour in your hearts and through all the drum beats of your souls. ---your mountain mama sweetheart X "The differences between what you hope for and what you end up receiving are part of what makes the outside, the hoped for, worthwhile...and beautiful." ---the Lovely Lou http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Sun Apr 28 03:27:33 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 03:27:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20020428022733.61509.qmail@web14403.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everyone, I'm getting a bit over-regular on this posting malarkey aren't i? Oh well, shitfaced last night but i did have fun - made some new friends and had a laugh and didn't pull any dodgy birds that i shouldn't. good thing, oh yes. hello again, going to carlisle next weekend to have a weekend with my ex - how weird will that be? oh well, see what happens. I haven't seen her for about 2 years and it will b strange! I really hope everyone has a really good weekend and all the single people pull and all the taken people get more in love than ever. ps. don't u just hate the huge support for israel in the national (international?) press? absolutely fucking awful - the israelis tried to tell the UN that the palestinians were bringing dead bodies into Jenin to make the israelis look bad. Oh my fucking god. I know there's american people on this list - i just want to ask why? why george bush? wanker No. 1. a lot. I suppose that's democracy in action. OK people. see you later - waiting for angry post! Dean XXX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From currentfav at xxx.com Sun Apr 28 08:04:48 2002 From: currentfav at xxx.com (andrew andrew) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 00:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Not Dancing On Our Own Message-ID: <20020428070448.99225.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Everyone, This is my first ever post on any mailing list. I want to announce to those who are going to the Toronto show that there will be an after party. Title: ON YOUR BIKE a belle and sebastian after party Spinning: Chris beans Geddes & DJ Daniel Vista (popscene) When: May 8th of course, doors @ 10:30/after the show Where: B-Side (above fez-batik) the corner of Peter & Richmond Cover: 5 dollars Sorry youngsters, 19+ only. For info, please write me at currentfav at yahoo.com Cheers, Andrew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kersy83 at xxx.com Sun Apr 28 09:39:00 2002 From: kersy83 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Kerstin=20Hammes?=) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 10:39:00 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Sinister: long time ago or the danger of lurking and a cry for help :-) Message-ID: <20020428083900.19173.qmail@web10708.mail.yahoo.com> Hi angels, one really has to make avoiding to become a sinister-lurker a form of art, or we'll all forget it. I'm writing for a few things...that's 1. I'm 19 now and I don't feel a bit old and I don't care how close I am to 20 now or not. well, at least not yet. 19 is a lovely age, it seems, you can start thinking about a relationship without having "my God, I'm so ugly, he'll never talk to me" in your mind. And no one is too old for you anymore. I remember being 15 and fancying a guy in my school who was just 18 like mad. He seemed so grown-up to me. But now the guy next to me in school is 33 and he asks me things and basically he's just as childish as anyone. To which extent does age matter ?? I don't know, but I think it's not that important anymore. So it seems. And you don't have to worry too much about driving (with a driving license at the age of 18) anymore because in the past year you got somehow used to it and it's easier. Although you are my cousin who let the police catch him with 1,9 Promille in his blood which I wouldn't recommend unless you're filthy rich with a driver. Like Cameron Diaz in A life less ordinary, which was on tv yesterday. Well, 2. as I love 19 so much I'm going to have a party but I'm still looking for party songs. This is certainly no request for another wave of lists - but if anyone wants to tell me (us) what they love dancing to, please shout it out and then come to my party. For me it's REM's "The end of the world as we know it" and Cornershop's "Brimful of Asha" where I can't stand still. And I love Women's Realm and I think that's another great party song. but gimme some more. Ken Chu, I'm sending you a flirty smile and please authorize this post :-) love, Kerstin __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sun Apr 28 13:08:24 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 05:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: About a *john*john*; bullying; links; going out Message-ID: <20020428120824.61638.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> Forget your "I HEART KEN CHU" badges. The cult of Ken Chu is over. Thats like, so five minutes ago, dahling. Ken might have been a cult, but our very own johnjohn has had a moviemade about him, and has been immortalised on the silver screen. I went last night with pigtails, and another friend, to see the film "about a boy". Almost instantly, it was recognisable, as a slightly younger version of john john, from the clothes he wears, to the fact that in the film, the wee boy (Marcus) even nicks johnjohns little catchphrase and says "baaa!". So I watched the film, noting only a few differences between them, which, without wanting to rock the boat, I am now going to list. (But I'm not putting numbers against them, so I'm reckoning, I might just escape the evil glares and dirty looks as I tread carefully on eggshells through the den of sleeping sinister lions, and perhaps also, a bollocking.) Johnjohn has a slightly deeper voice; johnjohn is taller; johnjohn isn't from Islington, London, England, The World, The Universe; hes from Dingwall near Inverness; I think Johnjohn's hair is a bit lighter, and a little bit shorter, but still kinda cool and floppy; As far as I know, johnjohn isn't related to Toni Collete in any way, shape or form. I could have numbered it. I could have put it in roman numerals. Or perhaps a) b) c)... call it a top A to J list? Dos that count? or a top I to X list? or add N to X? No, I don't think so. (*DEFINATELY AWAITING A BOLLOCKING NOW.*) Anyway, back to the film. So, its a film about john john. It was a great film, alothugh I think my comments can be fair, if I say that its one of those where its what you wished your childhood was actually like- to be rescued by some cool, older person who isn't related to you, who sticks up for you, and lets you hang about with them, to make a friend outside school, someone who is willing to teach you the ways of the world becuase other adults won't tell you, someone who rescues you when you need it most. Well, I do. I mean, bullying is rubbish, isn't it? But if you're going to be different, and stand out from the crowd and be interesting, and you went to school, you're going to get bullied. Its the rule. If you're going to grow up and become fascinating, and transform from the catipillar in its chrysalis to the social butterfly, or from the ugly duckling into the swan, you're bound to get bullied along the way, aren't you? You're lucky if you don't. ******Bullying******* I got bullied at school. I remember sitting in the back of Chemistry class, when I was 14, and this girlwith theis awful perm tried to poke my eyes out with a biro, and the teacher happily ignored it.I remember the head of the school, during assembly, saying there was no bullying at our school. Which you know is rubbish. Its like politicians saying the crime rate has dropped since they came into power, or that unemployment has dropped.. but you know its only the statistics that have dropped, and there is a lot left thats been unaccounted for, or not reported. Its the same with bullying. And what do youdo about it? Teachers are useless, mostly. Tell them that the kids call you names, and they tell you to turn the other cheek, or ignore it, or not to tell tales- becuase they think bullying has to be physical. Its not. Its easy for grown ups. Or so it seems. If you were to turn round to your teacher and say the things that people have said to you-the verbal abuse- mentioning mothers, sex, etc etc. What do you hink the first thing they would do would be? react? I think so. Would they ignore it, like they advise you to do? no. Would they get angry at you? Yes. So the teachers are giving out useless advice that they wouldn't follow. Nobody likes to think its going on in their school, do they, the teachers. Ignore it? Thats what teachers like to do, in my expereince, therefore it doesn't exist. I got teased a lot about my chest when I was at school, by boys and girls. If anyone said that to me in an office, they'd get done for sexual harrassment, and disciplinary charges would be brought against them. At school, its not quite as sophisticated. It gets ignored. I don't think theres any advice I can give to any younger listees about how to tackle bullying. I think it varies, from person to person. My only piece of wisdom, that I have learnt is this: that karma can exist. And if it doesn't happen straight away, keep on thinking about it. The kids that bullied me at school: where are they now? Well,one girl bullied me when I was 16. Actually, I think the whole school did. This girl though, this one particular girl. She used to make sly remarks, just loud enough for me to hear but quiet enough so nobody else did. Comments how I was a teachers pet when I put my hnd up in class to answer a question. Or comments about how I was thick (or words to that effect) when I asked a question. It was a loose-loose situation. And her little gang of friends... These girls were all clever. But this one girl, lets call her.. Elaine. She had a speach impediment, and a turned up nose, and got straight A's and grade 1s throughout school.She was clever. Her gang consisted of a bunch of clever, popular, sporty girls. Anyway, this girl. When we came to leave school, I later heard she went for an interview with a university to get on a degree course. Despite her fantastic grades, she was told she was too immature and turned down for university. Thats the first best bit of karma. Some of the other girls, who weren't so bright, (not in Elaines gang) went on to get jobs in local factories, they grew up, and had babies, and are all settled down now. I'm quite glad I never did any of that. I'm still having far too much fun with my life to give it away to the idea of becoming a mother, wheeling a buggy around the suburban town centres, wearing tracksuit bottoms and oversized t shirts, threatening two year old brattish spawn when they start to scream in Asda becuase they want a comic/ toy/ sweeties/ want to go home. I'm glad I'm still having fun, going out late at night to gigs and clubs, without having to get a babysitter. I'm glad I don't have to go to the post office once a month to collect child benefit. I'm glad I can spend my money on going to nice hair salons, and getting a head massage and a cool haircut rather than going to mothercare and spending it on nappies. I remember one of my ex boyfriends too, was a nasty character. The stories I could tell you about him... but I won't. Anyway, despite all the bad stuff that happened, I remember two years ago, sitting in the computing centre late, one night, typing up an essay. I saw him and his pal there, typing up a 15000 word dissertation, due in the next day, for their finals. These two went outside, to have a spliff, and when they came back.. eventually.. they hadn't saved their work, and the computers had logged them off becuase they had been away so long. Karma offers guaranteed satisfaction no amount of revenge could ever provide. And remember, theres a whole lot of belle and sebastian songs written for people who are feeling like a social misfit. As well as other bands, writing songs for you. Wouldn't it be cool, if you could get the school bullies to actually watch all the films where the main charactr, who is often the coolest, gets bullied, and then the real life bullies actually understand what its all about? Wouldn't it be cool, if witty retorts that work on the silver screen actually worked in real life? It won't happen though. Bullies aren't the most emotionally intelligent of people. They can't connect the villains in films to their own behaviour, nor do they try and change it. Its always seemed quite odd to me, how the bullies at school could listen to bands, or read about pop stars or celebrities, talking about their lives how they were bullied, and not even manage to see themselves within the context. How they could sing along to the songs about being a social outcast, then carry on behaving where they treat other people as social outcasts. Like I said, Bullies aren't the most emotionally clued up of people. *** back to the film**** So About A boy. Very idealistic, a feel good film, and the sort of thing you wished for as a kid, or wish had happened in retrospect. The closest reality you'll get, is the Sinister List. ****other news***** Very pleased to see Mick Cooke has kindly added Corduroy Smoke to the Belle And Sebastain list of links, at request. ****going out**** Went to the Egg last night. Was a bit miffed, becuase its not as good as I remember it. Or maybe I'm just falling behind with the times. Whatever, I think I shall be going to Keith Watsons night next week, seeing as I've bumped into him twice this weekend, and he's been busy selling it to me. ****finishing off***** I think I'll say goodbye now. Thankyou if you have red my post all the way down to here. You are indeed a devoted sinisterian. Love, Idleberry xxxxxxxxx ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hobart at xxx.uk Sun Apr 28 15:42:56 2002 From: hobart at xxx.uk (Iananscombe) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 15:42:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: saturday night/sunday morning Message-ID: <004001c1eec3$1dc3f720$bd6187d9@default> saturday night: this message was not written solo. my old friend mr chenin blanc aided and >abetted me. if its crap, blame the french. if its good, credit the >english) > >i have days when i want to hug the world. i want to run up to each person i >see, clamp them between my thighs, and plant a huge smacker on their >rosy-red lips. i want to sing, dance, and shout. i want to raise the world >in a great big, happy, revolution. > >thankfully, these are few and far between. and i am able to resist such >urges. the masses do not want to be woken in a happy revolution, they find >their joy in separation and disdain. such behaviour would earn me nothing >but opprobrium and a bruised face. and there's nothing special about that. >i can get that simply by visiting coventry. > >there are other days when simply leaving the house seems like madness. >why would i want to interact with the world? the world frightens me. it >has knives, it has guns, it has oasis. it will never understand the person >i want to be. >the house is the sensible place. hiding, with a record and the rain hitting >the patio doors. > >today was such a day. the highlight was visiting sainsbury's. i watched >the couples arguing, cursing one another, thinking 'at least i'm not >alone' and bickering about french bread. i walked around, using 'being with >you' by smokey robinson as a shield. if people see you singing in a >supermarket, they don't approach you. they think you are a dangerous >reprobate who is going to steal their 'taste the difference' ciabatta. > >the day started when i received the following note through the letterbox. >this was odd in itself. ever since the vibrator incident, the postman has >merely thrown his wares at my house from a respectable distance. but this >was hand-delivered: > >'dear ian, > >you can try, and try, but you will never be as good as archel playforth > >love and kisses >archel playforth' > >an odd start to the day. i don't like such messages. they remind me that i >am inferior. at this point, i have no idea who sent me the note, but when i >DO find out, be assured that that person will suffer. > >the day continued. which is never a good thing. when the day continues, >without an end in sight, i try and find something to comfort me. > >a note, as i try and tell you about this, my little lexicons of love, the >computer keeps turning itself off. it is as if the technological world has >decided against me. why not? me and the technological world have never >really gelled. it lets me in reluctantly, and i dip my toe in its waters, >careful to cling onto a systems analyst to avoid the shock. > >i feel as if something is trying to quiet me. there must be a reason for >this. > >i wanted to tell you about how i listened to a magnetic fields lyric, how it >made me think about us living our lives in bubbles. how those bubbles >collide from time to time and form beautiful, deformed shapes. i wanted to >tell you about music, and dimitra daisy's comment about it making you feel >happy inside. i wanted to talk about music being a hand to hold, a >comforter in the darkness, a comforter in the far-more-terrifying light. i >wanted to talk about stuart murdoch holding my hand as i walked up the >street, singing 'judy and the dream of horses' at the top of my voice, >revelling in being a freak, because, lets face it, a freak is the only thing >worth being. >i wanted to make you see how important it is that music unites us, a legion >of freaks, stumbling towards a dangerously undefined goal, but finding joy >in that stumble. sunday morning: god, ian, you were heavy on the metaphors last night. wine should have a warning on it: ' excessive consumption will lead to over-reliance on spurious linguistic devices'. or perhaps just 'too much of this crap, and you'll end up talking shit ' saturday night continued, for some time, in the same vein. but it is best that, for you lot, it finishes there. the morning comes, The Boy is here, and his company tempers those melancholic tendencies. today i don't need a friend to hold me, i need a friend to lift me. one that can get me off my arse and maybe even make me dance. there are the obvious friends who can do so - the isley brothers, the b52s, elastica. and then there are the friends who manage to lift me, and hold me, and show me something special in them, in myself, between us, that i never knew existed before. belle and sebastian, at their best, can do that. the piano of 'the boy with the arab strap', the shuffly part of 'judy and the dream of horses', the swirly beginning of 'sleep the clock around' - they don't even need words sometimes. moments that burst my bubble - change the shape of my mind, make the stumble a little prettier. this is how they manage to infiltrate so deeply. how music is capable of uniting a group of people in a way that very few individual human beings can. stuart murdoch shouldn't be suprised that people over-analyse every word he comes out with. when you have a friend that special you want to share with them completely, want the security of knowing what they are thinking, and want to introduce them to others, who will (hopefully) be suprised at your good taste. i think i've lost track of the point i was trying to make. that would mean that now was a good point to stop this mail. ian, you'll never be as good as archel playforth xx ----------------------------------------- Tomorrow will bring happiness Or at least, another day Phil Ochs ----------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leesa at xxx.com Sun Apr 28 17:58:34 2002 From: leesa at xxx.com (Lee & Lisa) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 11:58:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the center of my so called tweeness Message-ID: <006901c1eed6$02563260$baa3ecd8@default> Inquiring minds want to know: Was it really Melora from Rasputina playing cello with B&S on Conan the other night? I have looked over the performance carefully, and can't seem to find an Isobel in the group. Melora as standin for 'Bel? It surely looked like her haircut. Unless Isobel had gone to one of those "Imitate Rasputina" hairdressers? Surely California hasn't gone to her head (thus) that quickly. For those going to the Austin concert: Look out for me! I'll be the only 34 year old clad mostly in black,wearing some handmade "Don't Mess with B&S" buttons. I have some to give to YOU, and to the band,too. :) I simply cannot wait!! I am over the moon at the opportunity to see my fave band ever perform in a mere 2 days!! Cheers, Lisa from Texas +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From anaivaklam at xxx.br Sun Apr 28 18:28:27 2002 From: anaivaklam at xxx.br (Ana Ribeiro) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 14:28:27 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Everybody else's doing it, so why can't we? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020428134335.009f2880@pop3.uol.com.br> Or so Cramberries would say. As we all seen to enjoy other people's tops (I love)... here they are. Top ten Belle and Sebastian's songs 1. It could have been a brilliant career (means a lot to me, cos this was the first belle and sebastian's song I've listened, and I fell in love with this band because of that song - I know it sounds fake, but the truth is I bought The boy with the arab strap and If you're feeling sinister the same day, having knowing anything from the band but this song). 2. There's too much love ("It's safer not to look around, I can't hide my feelings for you know(....) I'm honest brutal and afraid of you") 3. I'm waking up to us ("I haven't changed, how could I? I'm pretty much the same person, I cannot keep the anger hidden anymore") 4. Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie ("And you love like nobody around you") 5. Judy and the dream of horses (I know, it's too obvious, but this song reeally makes me happy and "smily", specially when "if you're ever feeling blue then write another (tiny little pause) soooooooooooooong about your dream of horses!") 6. The state I am in ("Oh love of mine, would you condescend to help me, cos I'm stupid and blind?") 7.This is just a modern rock song ("I'll go and play with words and pictures, I'll admit I'm feeling strange") 8. Get me away from here I'm dying ("This is no declaration, I just thought I'd let you know goodbye") 9. Jonathan David ("Visions of love recollected, have we ever been true? I know that I have, it's time for you to go"... this song reminds me of the one I love, although it's a rather happy song I always cry cos we once were together now we are BEST friends but only friends, and he has a gf, so it's kinda like me singing it to her sometimes, but I always cry, yet I love this song, definetely one of my favourites) 10. Belle and Sebastian ("Fellow you are ill, you'd better take a weight off of your mind and listen to what other people say, cos things are going wrong your own way") I tried to make a top ten cds list, but I couldn't... it's harder than I thought.... I only got 5 for sure. Top 5 CDs Rush - A show of hands Pink Floyd - Animals Belle and Sebastian - If you are feeling sinister Rush - Retrospective 1. Pink Floyd - Delicate Sound of Thunder. Anyways, that's it. Hugs Ana "And the things that we fear are a weapon to be held against us" (Rush - The Weapon) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gassan at xxx.edu Sun Apr 28 18:54:01 2002 From: gassan at xxx.edu (Richard Gassan) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:54:01 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Tedious commerce. Off-topic? Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20020428135110.0120d638@mailsrv-unix.oit.umass.edu> Hey all. Erm, so I've got these two ticks to the NYC May 6th show that have NOT been moving on Ebay, and isn't that boring? Because I would like to sell them and I seem to be constitutionally unable to stand in front of the theater and hawk them. Ok, maybe I could (wait, is it "hawk" or "hock" .. hrm ... I digress) ... Anyhow. So anyone interested? In other news: I am currently printing my fabulous 327-page Magnum Opus (the Big Pile, for those of us not current in Latin). Then I turn it in to the graduate school and then my formal education is formally over, except for all that other crap (like getting all these books back to the library. Oh, and paying my parking tickets to the univ.) Cheers, Richard. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From petracotes at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 00:47:58 2002 From: petracotes at xxx.com (petracotes at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 16:47:58 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Boston Ticket Available Message-ID: <1B24B8D5EC9A8014B9D70A0A9D85292E@petracotes.canoemail.com> hello out there, I have a ticket for the Boston show available. It's orchestra, row X. make sure you have a cool e-mail address if you want it. -lucas Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From camo811 at xxx.com Sun Apr 28 22:43:44 2002 From: camo811 at xxx.com (Derek s) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 14:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Extra (1) NYC ticket Message-ID: <20020428214344.95761.qmail@web10901.mail.yahoo.com> I'm in a bit of a rush otherwise I'd post more, but a friend bailed on me so I have one extra floor ticket for the May 5 show. If I didn't have to pay back my mother, I'd let it go for free but thats just not the case unfortunately. Mail me for more info. Farewell. Derek S. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stringbeanjean1 at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 00:37:14 2002 From: stringbeanjean1 at xxx.com (juju fox) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 16:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: people try to make me do things Message-ID: <20020428233714.82254.qmail@web21004.mail.yahoo.com> halo again sinister. ::phew:: yesterday was my niece madissen's 13th birthday. i took her shopping for some ballet things she really wanted. then we ate lunch together. somehow, my veggie burrito was wrapped in a chicken burrito paper, and her chicken burrito was wrapped in a veggie paper. it made me feel all dirty once i discovered bits of chicken in my rice. i took it up to the counter to explain how they'd mistakenly given me the wrong sort, but then i checked madi's burrito, and discovered the mistake. it still made me feel dirty. and i was afraid to tell anyone about it. so there. i've confessed. i may have eaten some part of a chicken yesterday, but it wasn't my fault. ::i shot rockets:: after dropping her home, i drove to work. saturdays are always puzzling when it comes to behavioral patterns of traffic. i never know if i should leave earlier or later than on other days. if people are vacationing, i guess the freeways are more crowded. but if people are shopping, the surface streets are crowded. i wasn't aware of anything particularly special happening this week-end, besides my niece's birthday, but i left a bit early anyway. i think just to get out of that house (so many kids). after stopping for gas and a car wash, i still got there too early. so i sat in my car feeling warm under the windshield glass and trimmed my nails. they shot off my finers like sparks. it was rather neat to watch, but now i have to vacuum. ::lil bunny juju:: it has been cold and grey the past few days. april, she thinks she's march. but may will be here next week, and i want to run thru the redwoods before the weather turns hot. my skin hates the sun. i have to hide indoors, or under rocks. last night i was standing at the end of the bar where i play piano, resting my sore wrists, watching still clouds hovering outside. i told myself i wanted to feel like a mushroom. i wanted to feel tiny against tangible giants. so tomorrow, once i get some rest, i will drive to find trees. i will most likely end up driving to the very town where *he* works. where he used to live. where i fell for him. but i won't go there to see him. i'll go there to borrow a friend's cello that just happens to live where he stays during his weekday commute from up north. ...now you can see how i get my heart into trouble. so grate with the justifications. ::please erase the ? from over my head:: today i had breakfast with an old friend. he's actually my housemate, as well as my bandmate... but we haven't really been friends in a long time... not since he met his crazy jealous girlfriend. but they finally broke up last night (for the tenth time), so now i get to ride shotgun again. he's the nicest guy, and so talented and genuine, and he keeps going out with the worst girls. you know, the kind that give the rest of us nicer ones a bad name. i don't understand it. ? ::too much time on my hands:: i think i'll attempt one more time to see e.t. i tried to see it with *him* last month, but i'd be too embarrassed to explain why that didn't happen. but i saw that movie 20 years ago, loved it, came home and played the theme song by ear on our old upright piano, and from there taught myself how to read music, and now look at me. juju's got a musical career all cos of neil diamond. i just want to see it one more time, come home to play the piano, and get on with my life until the next 20 years comes round. (let's hope i find something to do with myself by then.) heartlight = on juju __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 01:56:38 2002 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 20:56:38 -0400 Subject: Sinister: hey, i'm down on the city lane, i guess i am broke again Message-ID: <66FDFB55.6015CB1B.0B7F097A@aol.com> Hello all you lovely sinisters. Belle and Sebastian is this weekend! Yay! This poor girl who lives about an hour from Boston is attending the show on Saturday night, and was wondering if there were any listees who are kind enough to lend a couch or a floor. Many thanks and pledges of eternal love shall be given, as well as anything else that is in my power to give. (Please, please, please, please, PLEASE will someone let me stay the night? I'll love you forever.) (And if you're willing, please email me off the list.) Thank you, darlings. cheers h +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iliverug at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 02:16:42 2002 From: iliverug at xxx.com (iliverug at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 21:16:42 -0400 Subject: Sinister: BELLE AND SEBASTIAN IN FIVE DAYS! Message-ID: <2013D7A7.09EE4605.009D4C37@aol.com> hey you guys! i cant believe it! i see them in five days! then again in 7 days! i am going to crap my pants! YES I AM! is there a meet at the philly or sunday nyc show? i havent been paying much attention to the list lately, and hardly post, but was just wondering. itd be fun to meet you freaks:-P. what am i gonna wear you guys? AHHH! belle and sebastian! AHHHH! my mom is still iffy about letting me go to philly, but i *AM* going, no matter what! eep! im so excited i can barely speak! -vicky! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From theboywiththemiddleeasternstrap at xxx.uk Mon Apr 29 02:32:35 2002 From: theboywiththemiddleeasternstrap at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Thomas=20Henderson?=) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 02:32:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: keep stroking me like that and i'll definetly tell you Message-ID: <20020429013235.23332.qmail@web20601.mail.yahoo.com> hello peeps, i'm not a lurker i just have nothing of interest to say really. well today i'm offering a prod in the ribs to anyone going to glastonbury this year, who is/ is anyone planning a worthy farm picnic or will the whole thing be a picnic? i suggest all you fellow campers make up a sinister flag to be displayed on/near your tent, or ideally above it, on a stick, a pointed one, that's painted green, and has...... you get the point. make yourself known that's all because it'll be great, right! in other news: i was elected president of my bedroom today, by myself, i think the vote was swung because of extensive media coverage i'm way too tired. anyway i'm off to lurk, see you all at glasto, all those who got tickets anyway __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marisa_privitera at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 05:33:20 2002 From: marisa_privitera at xxx.com (Marisa Privitera) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 21:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: this is good, trust me Message-ID: <20020429043320.64824.qmail@web14005.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all you lovely people I have some very good news for someone out there who is either in the North Eastern U.S. or willing to travel last minute. Remember that contest to design a B&S cover sponsored by Matador Records? It was posted a while ago. The prize was a pair of tickets for what ever region you live in. Well, I won for Boston. Wait, don't be mad, you have to understand that I NEVER win anything. The record company doesn't know the exact location of the seats yet because they are still in the hands of the promoter. However, they assured me that they would be great seats. Wait, it gets better. And for those of you who just scan for names you know or trendy topics.....Ken Chu. I already have 3rd row center seats. I am keeping which ever pair is better (sorry) and selling the other set which I'm guessing will be just as good anyway. I don't want to see these tickets go to someone who will resell them for 3 times the value to some desperate fan. If that happens, I will hunt you down. I am selling them for face value plus the evil ticket master fees. That's $70 for the pair. I told you it was good :) I hope that those of you coming to the show will have a beer with us. Thank you to Stacey, our lovely picnic mummy! xo, marisa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Mon Apr 29 08:36:56 2002 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_S.?=) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:36:56 +0200 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sunday-picnic-odyssey?= Message-ID: Sunday... mhmhmhmh... yesterday, wasn’t it?? ...Woke up pretty early and trying to be a god picnic fellow went to the [rather empty] kitchen in a singing shiny unusual mood, and prepared half a kilogram of one of my favourite traditional north-Italian Christmas cakes, actually a hyper-caloric sweet Cream. Then went to the local grocery and take biscuits and chocolate. Everything ready, lets go. Caught the bus then the tube. Camden station closed, stop at Mornington Crescent and extra happy walk up to the Spread Eagle. Time: 13:15. Perfect timing. Let’s have a pint. 13:30 no sinister around, suspicious. Let’s have another pint. 13:45. Still no-one around. The magic word start running around my mind “Saturday”.... Saturday.... Saturday.... Where the hell are the instructions? (I had printed out Steve’s e-mail...)... probably I’ve let it in the kitchen.... mhmhmhm.. Pint #4... 12:45.. Saturday Saturday rumble rumble gasp gasp.... Back to Mornington crescent, Camden station still closed.... Up to the northern lines. Back to the bus and in the [very crowded] kitchen, Saturday Saturday! Shame!.....mhmhmhmh.... I’m apparently a bit dazed. Try to kill the depression having half of the half of the half of the Christmas cream ... had an inspiration and went in the bedroom *listening* to a century of fakes... ‘your feeding your fat face with every etc etc’... no chance to be dropped anyway... ...... Still ½ of an ½ a Kg to go... second inspiration: BOWLING!!!! I remember someone called for a second sinister bowling night {I’ve sorry I haven’t checked in the archive, who you are! :)}. Why the bowling? 1) I live right in from of the bowling lane, which makes everything really comfortable [to me] 2) I’ve still ¼ of Kg of cream I’ve prepared with all the *love* of my for your dearest sinister [not to be mentioned I could afford no to eat it all alone] 3) Finally I can do something useful for the list since I’m London Hence instruction and bowling poll: I suggest the Hollywood Bowling as a venue. How to get there? Take the northern line, to east Finchley and then the 263 but which stop just opposite to the bowling place.... It is not too complicate. Isn’t? Anyway we could meet somewhere else instead. i.e. there is a pub, the white old lion or something similar just by the side of the east Finchley station. Should we meet there, have a couple of pints, and then take the bus, or if the weather is clement walk up the hill, get sweets or whatever, ‘scoff them’ and then bowling??? Is the program feasible??? If you think it is all right, please contact me at the following e-mail address: s.santabarbara at qmul.ac.uk Just to know how many we will eventually be and in case book the bowling place. Point number 2... date.... I know it is quite a pretty short advice, but to you think TUESDAY will be fine? Open to any options, just I’m off on Wednesday.... Take care Yours, stfano ‘Sunday/Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday/Friday/Saturday/’ September, October, November or December? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Mon Apr 29 13:26:12 2002 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 13:26:12 Subject: Sinister: Tribute to Laura! Message-ID: <303269876@spray.se> Hi Sinisweeties! Today, when I got home, there was a note from the post office that I had a letter that was too big too hand out with the postman, so I had to pick it up. Now, this happens once in a while, when I am expecting it. But I didn't wait for any packages and things to arrive. And the note said that the package was from "Poor Richard". The only Richard I know is a *gorgeous* leader at the youth club, who is like 23, and wouldn't really send anything to me. I have a cousin called Rickard. But why would he send me anything? So it was with great curiousity me and my friend Emelie went to the post office. We also met a boy in one of the other classes in my grade, who is very cute, but really rude and thinks he's the misunderstood individual or something. But he came in and saw us and smiled and nodded to us. All of the sudden, it is # 426, my number and I, dying out of curiousity go to the lady behind the counter. I give her the note, she goes and grabs the BIGGEST of all the parcels, and yes! it is MY parcel! And when I see it I start to laugh hysterically; It's from "Poor Richard's Booksellers", and they say it's from som guy called Poor Richard. I opened it up, and... IT WAS A PRESENT! FROM LAURA LLEW! HURRAH! Yes, I opened it, and inside the enormous envelope was a note, revealing who it was from. I got two books... TWO BOOKS! Not one book, but TWO BOOKS! And one of them was one of my favourite books, The Little Prince! I do have it in a really fancy cover and all at home, but that's in Swedish, I've been dying to read it in English! HURRAH! So, thank you, thank you, thank you to the SWEET Laura who sent me a (late) sinister christmasgift since I only got one but signe dup for two. Oh yes! I am meeting my corduroy sweetheart Tom in four weeks when I go to England, I feel really pretty today, AND I got gifts! PLURAL! and everything is just so perfect! I haven't been this happy for ages... Thank you! Lots of love, Astrid x _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Tävla och vinn med nya Coca-Cola Light i årets roligaste Quiz! http://quiz.spray.se/cocacola +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kchu at xxx.uk Mon Apr 29 11:24:53 2002 From: kchu at xxx.uk (kchu at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:24:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Friction (Fight Talk) Message-ID: <80256BAA.00393D3B.00@daimlerchryslerservices.co.uk> On Saturday afternoon I was walking down the street, and there was this man getting beaten up by a gang, the man was squealing in pain as they were all kicking him in the ribs. After each of them kicked him about 10 times, I decided to step in. I put on my metal studded boots, put on my knuckle duster, and, without a moment of hesitation, I joined in with the kicking because Hey, everyone else was doing it. And if people didn't like me kicking them, they should have run away, afterall I was wearing metal studs, a knuckle duster and a t-shirt that says "I'm a twat who likes causing pain for fun". Later on, I spotted that that man's mum was standing at the corner shouting for the kicking to stop, so I walked up to her, and punched her in the face too. I think I've proved that I really am A Hard Man, and I can do whatever I Fucking want, cos I'm great. That didn't really happen. What did happen is that I was at a picnic! And it was a lot of fun, there were things like a hill (with a chill), nice cookies that were baked and shared, as was a cake, and there was some of the ol' in outs between a 4" rod and a hole, and someone's ball had lumps. Then there was a football match, during which the midway arrival of a foreign signing saw the result of the game turned from a runaway victory for one team into a (debatable) draw. Soon after the football we descended onto the road towards the Spread Eagle, and a long while after that we arrived at the Spread Eagle. A little longer after that still two sinister boys came together, and with satisfied smiles on their faces. Even longer after that, a sinister couple arrived and with even more satisfied smiles on their faces. At the Spread Eagle many things were done, some tried to have conversations about Debbie Harry, but ended up with talks of willies that last for 5 seconds, some preferred sports such as football, while some preferred to indulge in gymnastics, combining with tennis, and like John McEnroe it was played with a tongue in cheek. Some had to depart early, some stayed, some went to have dinner at this quality restaurant where you can watch, hear, and smell the food being prepared, on the menu was Pasta Salmonella, the chef was professional and the kitchen was clean too, once. Later on some demanded music videoes, and some dictated through cards and some insisted on stealing cars. All in all a fun day wouldn't you agree? Now it's Monday and back to reality, but then reality only lasts for five days and it'll be the weekend again, which is when good things happen. I can handle that. Love and Red Bulls Ken ****************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT This email, its content and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be legally privileged and/or confidential. Access by any other party is unauthorised without the express written permission of the sender. 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Mon Apr 29 14:02:10 2002 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:02:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Putting the po(o)r into Reporting Back Message-ID: <20020429130210.25065.qmail@web10504.mail.yahoo.com> Hello So.. um.. Saturday... I was in a pub. Carsmile, Mark H and Emma were there. It was nice but nobody else appeared to be coming. Someone who wasn't there said "We're all at the top of the hill. Start climbing". So we scaled the mighty knoll of Primrose Hill. It was colder up there so we made sure to buy beer beforehand. Pringles too because the low conductivity of dried potato makes excellent body-cavity insulation. Atop the hill we spied Ben, Ken, Marianna, and Big Gay Mark. A picnic was enjoyed and we were soon joined by Sarah, Trousers, Moore, Maja and a couple of foxes. The temperature dropped rapidly as an atlantic-borne depression (possibly accompanied by free-floating anxiety and occasional showers) rolled in from the west. The sensible people played football. The rest of us huddled together, complained and consipired to return to the pub. Booze won out over freezing to death and the non-football faction split for the Spread Eagle where conversations were had on subjects like 'indie' and 'borders'. It was all much fun but sadly I had to leave early. The rest of my day involved a train ride, more beer and a spectacularly bad game of pool. Thanks to picnic mummy Carsmile and picnic suggester Paul. Apologies and hiya to anyone I failed to mention above. Bye for now Robster http://liquid2k.com/robster75 P.S. Going to see Lambchop this week. YIPPEE!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Mon Apr 29 15:48:35 2002 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:48:35 BST Subject: Sinister: preserve my dignity and skip this, oh if you must... read it Message-ID: <480165C7F39@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> sinister, forgive me if i've missed any breaking news because i haven't quite completed the open - scroll - delete pattern all the way to the top of the pile of posts, those pesky lists took more scrolling than i'd expected. but i'm posting now so that i might have some hope of getting home in time to watch 'as told by ginger.' so i am mainly posting because i had the piss taken over the weekend that the first thing i would do on monday would be to run to sinister and blab all the exciting things that happened. well sometimes proving people right can be just as much fun as proving them wrong. well i'll cut to the chase, i could tell the whole story, but you really wouldn't be interested. the gist is that on friday night ANDY ROURKE - THE BASS PLAYER FROM THE SMITHS CAME ROUND TO MY HOUSE. i was quite excited. can you tell? dammit i've spent two and a half years on this list trying to convince people that i was really cool and now i've blown it, but anyway. somehow we ended up hanging out with him after a club and he came back to ours to play videogames and couldn't seem to get the hang of craxy taxi and i kicked his ass at soul calibur. [at this point it seems fitting to take a moment to mourn the premature demise of the dreamcast] but not to worry because we're getting a gamecube on friday. woohoo! there should be more sinister gaming discussion as i have found that one of the most effective ways to snare and sustain a relationship with today's young men is to develop or feign an interest in computer games. but to return to my story, the funniest thing happened... i had left lying around a copy of the complete works of oscar wilde because i've been studying him at uni. during the course of the evening mr rourke spid this and proceeded to do a really scary impression of morrissey and tell us about how he used to bang on about oscar wilde. thinking back on this it was hillarious, but its also a little sad when you see washed up ex-popstars still revelling in their former glory. unfortunately thats all i can remember, but thats probably for the best as i was quite drunk and almost certainly made a fool of myself. well, thanks to anyone who actually made it to the bottom of the most disjointed post i've ever written and dammit, by the time i get home there'll only be saved by the bell on tv. its nice to have someone to humour me, love and lollipops, fiona. p.s. no-one from around manchester ever pays attention when i make these pleas, but my night, indigo, is at the phoenix tomorrow (tuesday) night and its really good and we play belle and sebastian and everything. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From emanuel_jose at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 16:02:19 2002 From: emanuel_jose at xxx.com (josemanuel .) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:02:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Urgent NYC show Message-ID: Hello sinisters I am in sudden trouble by reasons a bit long to explain here, the point is that I have a ticket to spare for the 5th May show in NYC. I am willing to change it for a ticket for the 6th or maybe for a place to stay (sleep) those 2 days. If someone is interested please mail me. bye. josemanuel ps. is there going to be a soccer match in NY with the band? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos es la manera más sencilla de compartir e imprimir sus fotos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrewj54 at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 16:02:51 2002 From: andrewj54 at xxx.com (andrew utter) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:02:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: New York picnic/gathering? Message-ID: Hi folks, Sorry if this has already been announced on the list, but is there a get-together before the New York concert(s)? Andrew ----------------------------------------------- "Nothing is so difficult as not deceiving oneself." --Ludwig Wittgenstein _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrewj54 at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 16:02:51 2002 From: andrewj54 at xxx.com (andrew utter) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:02:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: New York picnic/gathering? Message-ID: Hi folks, Sorry if this has already been announced on the list, but is there a get-together before the New York concert(s)? Andrew ----------------------------------------------- "Nothing is so difficult as not deceiving oneself." --Ludwig Wittgenstein _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnw at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 16:26:31 2002 From: johnw at xxx.com (John T. Cat, Esq.) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:26:31 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Anyone got a ticket for Monday? Message-ID: <001001c1ef92$3d4329c0$f909040a@ops.about.com> Anyone have floor tickets for Monday's show at the Hammerstein? I have a floor ticket for Sunday to trade. Or Money. I got money. Thanks, John +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brandtpfundak at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 16:49:21 2002 From: brandtpfundak at xxx.com (Brandt Fundak) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: sunday night phone call. Message-ID: <20020429154921.17470.qmail@web13903.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all. I had an interesting thing happen to me last night. I was sitting at home around 9:30 pm eastern time when i get a phone call from california. it's my friend Andy, informing me that he is in Indio, CA at the Coachella festival. the first words out of my mouth: "Did you see Belle and Sebastian?" andy told me they wouldn't take the stage for the next 15 minutes. He had called to ask if he needed to get me any t-shirts. I told him no, as i was going to be seeing them in the coming days. then he said "I'll call you back when they come on." and so, thanks to my lovely friend, i heard, no matter how raw over a cell phone "Sleep the Clock Around" and "Legal Man" the two times my friend called me from the festival. i thought it was a very wonderful thing to do. i just thought i'd share the sort of sunshine belle and sebastian brings into our lives on an unexpected basis... brandt ps. andy told me that they covered the beach boys last night...anyone know which song? ===== "Selma, Jub Jub is fantastic! He's everywhere you want to be!" --Troy McClure __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jpayne at xxx.org Mon Apr 29 16:51:43 2002 From: jpayne at xxx.org (Jenny Payne) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: 3 PA B&S TIX In-Reply-To: <001001c1ef92$3d4329c0$f909040a@ops.about.com> Message-ID: Due to rotten circumstances, I'm offering 3 tickets for the PA show at less-than-face-value to the first who wants them. I got these online during the first 15 minutes of their being on sale, so they're great seats... and are all three together. E-mail me ASAP if you're interested! Jenny +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Mon Apr 29 17:07:31 2002 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:07:31 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: Sinister: that's what they expect Message-ID: monday morning/wake up knowing that you've got to go to work... ... and that you will find 8 billion sinister emails, some lovely, but that you will not remember anything of them apart from idelberry's mention of wind farms. now i *know* these are farms DRIVEN by wind, and yet i still drifted off into an image of a farm which produces wind. like a sheep farm, or a fish farm. it could be good if you could just farm wind, grow it like corn and distribute it around the earth to do its work (carrying seeds and whatnot?). except that today it's really excessively windy. stop the production line. um. so, i was feeling a bit restless yesterday, and on leaving the house, felt a strange force pulling me to a part of town i'd never been to before. after a while i realised that my feet had taken me to ian's house. i knew it was his because of the empty wine bottles, mutilated shop dummies, broken crucifixes and pages torn from pornographic french novels littering the overgrown front garden. i stood there irresolutely for a while, listening to the dry coughing and occasional incoherent shouts which interrupted the strains of the magnetic fields drifting from an upstairs window. i was suddenly overcome with the need to stop this kind of behaviour. i knew that he was in there, drunken delusions of grandeur filling his otherwise empty head. words spilling out of his mouth, not always his own. so, i left a note. maybe it was a challenge, maybe it was a threat, maybe it was just a friendly warning. i went home and worked on some poetry. i didn't make the final grade when it came to those awards, but at least i knew i was better than ian. luv archel xxx ps. the 5th may brighton picnic has been postponed, hopefully to be replaced by another london-based event. brighton will probably be hosting the sinister drinking olympics on 25th may instead. will keep you posted... ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beiaardhorse at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 17:20:14 2002 From: beiaardhorse at xxx.com (Aruni J) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:20:14 -0400 Subject: Sinister: NYC meetup(s)? Message-ID: Hey folks, I don't know if any of you frequent the jeepster boards, but here's the latest on NYC gig-related action: http://www.buro9.com/forum/showthread.php?s=5afc5ab5529561413f601d5fd9fb2d4f&threadid=723&pagenumber=3 Details are sketchy. It seems there will definitely be a post-gig thing with Beans DJing...somewhere. Soccer looks less than definite. ~Aruni >From: "josemanuel ." >ps. is there going to be a soccer match in NY with the band? _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From michael at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 20:13:45 2002 From: michael at xxx.com (Michael Vance) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:13:45 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Coachella Message-ID: <3A428D83-5BA5-11D6-A1AD-000393827B88@linuxgames.com> Hello, My girl and my friend managed to mosey out of the Sony PS2 truck (where they had the game I worked on, Spider-Man, showing, how exciting) and over to the stage just in time for the beginning of the show (it was a day like that, same with the Strokes, and we even found some tasty vegan food). I won't pretend to present an authoritative description of what happened, but here are some things I remember - Struan coming out with his football - Songs I remember: Sleep the Clock Around, String Bean Jean, Legal Man, There's Too Much Love In The World, Dog On Wheels, Boy With The Arab Strap, a flamenco number from Storytelling, and a bunch of others I know the lyrics to, but remarkably, not the name... (no Seymour Stein, poor me) (send bootlegs of Seymour Stein if you love me) - Struan remarking that they had never played outdoors before, and he wondered why the fuck not given how nice it was yesterday - Stevie making fun of Foo Fighters (who were on the main stage) -- "fine band, really" - Struan changing the last few lines of Boy With The Arab Strap to address the wafting of Foo Fighters sound across the pitch over to the stage they were on - Struan kicking his ball out into the crowd, and the crowd dutifully giving it back - Bobby and Sarah leading the crowd in clapping for the Flamenco number - Struan demanding someone dance with one of the violinists who was standing up by herself during a song I can't remember the name of - The crowd asking where Isobel is, and Struan saying she couldn't make it, but she'd be at the Philly gig, and then some sundry chatter about "Philly survivors" which sounded like an in-joke that I didn't get - The Beach Boys number, requested by the drummer, actually, and Stevie lamenting that it was some of their finest singing and he was sure to make a mess of it (it was fine) No encores at festivals, it seems, which is a pity, and I wish people wouldn't casually smoke pot in the audience, it's rather rude. Oh, and I looked for some of the Sinister people I know, but didn't see any. Ah well. Otherwise, a fine day, not too crowded at the festival, the weather was lovely, and while expensive, food and water weren't ridiculously priced. Regards, m. -- "Reel around the fountain slap me on the patio I'll take it now..." -- The Smiths, Reel Around The Fountain +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 20:48:34 2002 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:48:34 -0400 Subject: Sinister: My friend Krispin Kenyan Message-ID: <1B6B9A03.5BBAAF31.0274188F@aol.com> So, the faux Isobel was actually Melorra from *gasp*, Rasputina? My mind boggles! Isn't Rasputina sort of a GOTH-CHICK band? I remember liking them back in 1997 when I had dyed black hair and a "dark, dark soul." But, I am a foul, depressing Belle and Sebastian fan who doesn't deserve to live because I forgot they were playing on Conan last Friday. I clean forgot! I was bizzy drinking down the sloe gin fizzes and giggling over people who SHOULD have rubix cubes. I HAVE BEEN WRONG, A LOT See, ahead of time, before I started drinking sloe gin, I reckoned: "I bet this chap has a rubix cube." But I was wrong. And I was wrong again, later, yesterday, when I was 110% sure that Ally Cook was wearing mismatching socks. But then I found out that he's too dull to wear mismatching socks. I was wrong... AGAIN! THE CULT OF WOLFSHIRT Amy Applejacks, Michelle Mittens, and Krispin Kenyan and I are all tough WOLF SHIRT WEARERS. I bet you are jealous. Hey, shoot someone and you can join the club. I bet Robert Jack Goofstrum could be a WOLFSHIRT GIRL if he were a girl, but he's just plain ol' RJG stuck in Beano! THERE ARE SOME BELLE AND SEBASTIAN SHOWS COMIN' UP AND SHIT: Tooooooo true! Okay, here's a sad story.... but I nicked this one from Alex Wolf, who is not a Wolfshirt wearer, but he's funny anyway: SO THESE TWO GUYS ARE TALKING, AND ONE GUY ASKS THE OTHER: "HEY, YOU WANT SOME GUM?" AND THE GUY SAYS, "NO." AND THE OTHER GUY ASKS "WHY NOT?" AND THE GUY RESPONDS: "I DON'T KNOW." WAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Witness this, and other funny hijinx, soon. Simon says, Mandee May "inconsolably okay" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sayyestointernationalsocialism at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 21:45:36 2002 From: sayyestointernationalsocialism at xxx.com (Nicholas Passant) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 13:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: With Love and Squalor Message-ID: <20020429204536.56554.qmail@web10408.mail.yahoo.com> So I got bored of other people having things to do, and I got bored of writing in a diary that claimed to have shut down three times already, and I got bored of sitting before an empty window in an empty room and staring at empty pages. �I was bored�, I say, and let the moralists scrap over the cracks in my justification. I have Jean-Charles Denis on my side, and it�s not often that one can claim that. How to explain my protracted absence from Sinister.. �I was ever a misanthrope�, I remember claiming.. But you shouldn�t listen to that kind of silliness. It�s the kind of thing I say in an attempt to make friends. For one whose life takes the form of a succession of skits based around the theme of old jazz standards, it is dangerous to linger on descriptions and anecdotes as a basis for common ground.. It is dangerous to pinpoint moments of clarity and eloquence and place these at the heart of relationships. It is dangerous to do anything but shake hands now and again and say �how do you do?� and then lapse into a silence of broken glasses and late night discos. I began writing a book instead, and became scared that people would read it. One of you might have profited had I retained my willpower in that respect, and I regret too much to say more. I sat up until the wee small hours instead, reading. In the whole of North London, only one bedroom light was still visible as I finished.. �One other and I seeing out the darkness�, I thought. �Only one other. And I bet they�re not reading Dostoyevsky!� That�s what I thought. I began to hatch plans instead, more in hope than expectation. But hatching plans, I discovered, is very different from having ideas. Plans presuppose action on my part, a pushing against circumstance, an idea plus friction. Hatching plans is a dangerous business too, and you know I try to stay away from that kind of thing, like moths to a flame. We shall move away from London in a few weeks now. That was the plan, the plan I crept along with, when I wasn�t speaking to you. Still, we muddle along with our own jobs and our own lives and everything in London seems to have seconds ticking away on the face of it. A countdown. I used to write songs about countdowns, about the time until the future starts or until the past stops. The songs were just ideas, and bad ones at that. But a plan is a good thing. All plans are good if they come to fruition. Some of you I might see in Glasgow. It would be a delight. And it�s not often that one can claim that. Nicholas Passant x ===== ------------------------------------------ The account is now defunct. All replies here, or to . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 22:07:20 2002 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunny set) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 21:07:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: One dayI will get up early and steal back everything stolen from me Message-ID: I like train journeys. I like going somewhere slightly exciting or doing something a little bit different. I like sitting with my head against the window and music in my ears watching fields change into cities and cities change into beaches. It is nice to rush past people walking their dogs, or flying kites or playing football and to see something you would otherwise miss whilst sitting staring out of the window at home. I am patient with delays. Up to a point at least, I'm no saint after-all. I can sit on the platform watching freight train passing through and signs hung on chains dancing in the wind. I listen to the echo of the tannoy, the sound of children playing, and the whistle of wind as a train leaves the station. 5 years ago I hated trains. I hated a specific hour long train journey from my home in Shrewsbury to Birmingham where that year I was working. Each morning I caught the same train into work, and usually the same train home again. On a good day I would get a seat by the window facing forwards, the train would leave and arrive on time and would be relatively warm. Even on good days each journey was clouded with tiredness, and with frustration and the sense that my life was slipping away somewhere approaching Wolverhampton. I envied the commuters who lived 20 minutes further along the line. I envied people travelling for fun even more. They stood on the platform at 7.00am bright eyed and excited. I stood there shivering, with permenent bags surrounding my eyes. As the winter turned into summer the days became longer and colour seeped back into my life. I heard "me and the major" for the first time and started to imagine the friendships I could have with my fellow passengers. There was the old time commuter who drank a cup of coffee each morning before falling asleep with his mouth open. The thirty somethings who sat around a table for four, flirting madly whilst boasting about there jobs. There was even a young girl who may or may not have dreamt of horses. I became fond of the familiar faces. Life moves on, as did I. I wonder how many of those people still catch the same train into work. Maybe one day I will get up early one day and stand on the platform bright eyed and excited and steal back everything Wolverhampton ever took from me. Take Care, Rachel _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zoziepop at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 22:11:06 2002 From: zoziepop at xxx.com (Dimitra Daisy) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 00:11:06 +0300 Subject: Sinister: saturday night/sunday morning Message-ID: 'It�s hard to be happy when you always want something you haven't got', Ian said. As I walk around the streets of this city lists of the things that I terribly miss make themselves in my head. I come back and Yo La Tengo sing �just be thankful for what you�ve got�. It�s the week before Easter, it�s spring, it gets dark quite late �though not as late as in Scotland. Or even London. There�s a part of my mind dedicated to thinking about another place, sometimes I worry that it is bigger than the one that thinks about the world here. Then I go out, and I am overwhelmed by light and colours and smells and by the clarity of it all. In and between all that, I realised it�s easier to be a little sad than to be a little happy. It�s easy to pine for what you don�t have. It hard to acknowledge the fact that the world around you is a lively colourful place and there a lot of things for which you can be thankful and a little bit happy. Even though you don�t have a lot of what you long for. Yesterday I spend most of the day in a house in the country, or, well, somewhere outside the city. I spend most of the day in it and only came out when it was almost dark, and got wet running around and in and under and between green things. It would be nice if I were a fairy in another lifetime. When I took the bus back into the city, it felt a bit different to be there, in the way things feel when you�ve been away to somewhere different and come back. I got off at the wrong bus stop and ended up walking quite a bit to get home, and I felt a bit like a ten year old coming back from a school excursion. I came back to a big dark silent flat that seemed to hang there, four flours above the ground just to let the night wind blow through it and to have music played in it. I went out again for a bit, on the way up I remembered to look right and up as I was crossing a big street, I saw the fullish moon rising above a mountain and looking orange, and were surprised even if it was the fourth time in a row this had happened. On the way down I looked again, then I took another way down, and run for half of it. Sometimes I think of Lazy Line Painter Jane when I start running in the street, sometimes I think of Ian, sometimes I don�t think at all. Or I think of different things. This time I wanted to cry, not out of sadness, but out of something else I didn�t have words about. It had something to do with the night and with the lists of the things I terribly miss in my head. Then I came back (again), to find Ian had written: Saturday night: I have days when I want to hug the world. I want to run up to each person I see, clamp them between my thighs, and plant a huge smacker on their rosy-red lips. I want to sing, dance, and shout. I want to raise the world in a great big, happy, revolution. Thankfully, these are few and far between. And I am able to resist such urges. The masses do not want to be woken in a happy revolution, they find their joy in separation and disdain. Such behaviour would earn me nothing but opprobrium and a bruised face. And there's nothing special about that. I can get that simply by visiting Coventry. I read it holding my breath and I wanted to cry again. It took me a while but I realised that the reason I wanted to cry when running down the street was, as I put it last night, �because the world is a big, mysterious, magical place, just as the night stretching out around me was, but people don't pay notice to it. And the world, instead of being what Ian called a happy revolution, is a place of separation and disdain�. Do you know why I like Belle and Sebastian? Do you know why my favourite film is Together (Tillsammans, by Lukas Moodysson) ? Do you know why I like you? Well, for lots of little reasons too. But mostly cause they�re all part of that happy revolution. Now I know what I have been telling you to keep the faith in all along. zoziepop xx _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Cottyn at xxx.com Mon Apr 29 23:47:12 2002 From: R.Cottyn at xxx.com (Richard Cottyn) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:47:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: To go looking for the AMY...and it wasn't very LONGCORE... Message-ID: <007001c1efcf$cf103860$06367bd5@Cottyn> Yes, back with the puns. I'm sorry but I couldn't resist! I haven't posted for a bit-and I thought now was a good time seen as I have a bit to ramble on about (see, you can't get rid of me that easily...) I'm counting local election votes in the UK on Thursday for the first time (now that I'm the rip old age of 18!) and getting paid for it :) The prospect of being able to fix the election rather excites me, and I'm particularly looking forward to accidently forgetting to count any BNP votes. The Lib Dems get my vote, due to the simple fact that I got a birthday card from them. That's politics for ya. Now at the moment I'm rehearsing for a play at the Crucible (where the World Championship Snooker is currently being held). It was excellent finishing my rehearsal tonight, because I came out of the Crucible Stage Door and there's a big group of people who turn round sharply with their snooker programmes and pens in hand, expecting some top class snooker player. When they saw that I was just an ordinary teenager with a script in his hand they turned away again, and pondered over how ginger Steve Davis's hair is. Talking of autographs, I remember the World Snooker programme from about a decade ago, and I had made fake autographs by all the players names. (I dunno why, I was only about 8!) I told my cousin Colin that they were real, before confessing the truth. He was obviously impressed with my fake autographs though because he asked me to do loads on pieces of paper, and we were going to take them to the school tuck shop the next day and sell them. His Mum found out though later that evening about our schemes and we were duly reprimanded. I think it may have been quite a money maker. I could have been a millionaire by now. I might even have had enough money to offer Morrissey a solo deal. Love Richard X +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Tue Apr 30 00:10:56 2002 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 00:10:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILKING NYC - May 6th after the B&S show Message-ID: <20020429231056.2965.qmail@web10402.mail.yahoo.com> Hello! Lovely Brian Hobnob asked me to post the following about the night that we (and the gorgeous, pouting Phil-two) are putting on next week. Y'all come along, you hear? Mark xxx *********** TIGERMILKING 200 troubled teenagers & a passel of DJs Monday, May 6 10pm until close (come right down from the B&S gig!) in the Fez lounge (ground floor) 380 Lafayette Street at Great Jones (uh, this is in New York) (and near the 6 or the NR trains) I know that most of you only have experience with the Fez lounge as "that really crowded place I pushed through when leaving a CMJ show" but it does a very nice sound system & good drinks, plus we basically have the space privately that night. Anyway, please come. There's no cover. And I promise it will be fun. Drop me a line if you have any questions... otherwise I hope to see loads of you in Fez on the 6th. Please forward this email to anyone you think might be interested... and print out the PDF flyer to give to them, too: http://www.joannou.net/tigermilking>. Or at least look at it, because the tiger on it is cute. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From al717 at xxx.edu Tue Apr 30 00:59:08 2002 From: al717 at xxx.edu (Adam Leier) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 19:59:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Ease your feet in NYC Message-ID: <18605A14-5BCD-11D6-9E0F-0003930AD2BC@nyu.edu> I was just wondering if the kids from the first night extravaganza were invited to the Fez type party. Is there a 21 and over rule? It's just around the corner from where I live so i was curious. There's nothing planned for the 5th right? Sorry for all this bureaucratic type clarification stuff I'm just a bit befuddled. Thanks Adam (AOLIM = BlurryBoy13) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ann_septimus at xxx.com Tue Apr 30 01:51:13 2002 From: ann_septimus at xxx.com (Salako *) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:51:13 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Ink Polaroids Message-ID: Hey everyone! OK, I went to a Weezer/Pete Yorn/AM Radio (never heard of 'em before, but I quite like rocking out to their muzack) concert this weekend... in Pullman Washington! Dinky little college town. Concert was great, though... my ears are still fuzzy. B&S material: I got a Weezer Tshirt with what seriously looks like S. David's Ink Polaroid drawings of the band (!)... When I first saw the shirt I had to doubletake on the name written above the pics. Weird! Also: I am so jealous of anyone going to a B&S concert (thanks for filling up the old inbox :P )... post pics on the web, please? Well, the centrifuge calls. Ann _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Tue Apr 30 02:45:31 2002 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 21:45:31 -0400 Subject: Sinister: DOUBLE DEVO!!!TORONTO TICKET ACCIDENT!!!CREAME AND SUGARE. Message-ID: <01d201c1efe8$b7d18fa0$1f01a8c0@workgroup> i bought my belle and sebastian tickets through ticketmaster while i was still in bed i was not clever or wise i was in bed. i bought too many ticket. that is to say i have one ticket to sell at cost to someone who needs one. this is a ticket to the toronto show. sorry for this, i have not posted in what might be a year. i used to post enough that i could get name dropped in other people's posts. (it didn't happen much but it was nice when it did) now nothing. until today. sigh. s t e v enn +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From halighhalou at xxx.com Tue Apr 30 07:15:33 2002 From: halighhalou at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 01:15:33 -0500 Subject: Sinister: preserve your memories, they're all that's left you. Message-ID: hello sinister. right now i am surrounded by cds, and i am again surprised that forty of them in one pile is still not enough to handle the delicate intricacies of making a mix tape. i think i have left some home by my broken tape player, thus leaving me with about twenty albums with which to make an amazing compilation, one that will wow the listener with my well-honed capabilities to put songs together in a semblance of order, make things that don't have anything to do with one another work in such a way to make an oiled machine of the various glued-together parts. i think i should have tackled a smaller, simpler project. sixty minutes of music is nothing and everything to me when someone else makes it. i buy it and listen to it, cherish the little circle of heaven and brandish it in the air. i make everyone else stop what they're doing, slip a little something in the news desk cd player, turn the volume up a bit and put my hand to my chest in the ultimate gesture of adoration. i am a crazed fan. and not only that. i think i might suck at trying to take things other people make for my own bit of art, ripping four-minute increments and attempting to re-weave a tapestry of sorts that was already perfect to begin with. argh. i would never never win the mix tape battle. i think i may only reduce the listener to tears. tears of shock and dismay, mind, that my skills are...well. yeah. maybe it's not that bad. maybe it never is, really. but the open door to the top of the arts desk boom box, when combined with the open door the player's tape deck, looks like a transmogrified mouth, gaping. laughing. *** sitting around today, i spotted a calendar on the arts desk for the zoo bar here in lincoln. they usually have blues bands of some sort there; i've been once to review a show. a family band. the millers. you realize something when sitting in the crowd at a bar, watching an eight-year-old kid wail on the harmonica while his dad and brothers play back up. providing a clean dance track for the tipsy thirty-something single women, who saunter up to the edge of the stage and give that grade-schooler a show he probably shouldn't get until he's at least fourteen. you realize loneliness drives people to strange things. for one. you also realize just what people are driven to on a tuesday night, a pitcher of drawn beer and a few friends the only salvation from mundane schedules. the schedule for the zoo bar here has, unsurprisingly, nothing i want to see this month. and nothing i could see, anyway, since i am, alas, at the tender and terribly frustrating twenty-year mark, where nothing happens except an extreme teetering in the area of a chalked, coming-of-age line. in the spirit of trying to console myself and having something to do come may 11, i thought i might hop on the internet to find more calendars. more things i don't really want to go to. here is a small list of musical acts thrilling the chicago area about two weeks from now. (get out your personal planners now!): 1. michael mcdermott, who, in the description, is hailed as a faded "MTV megastar" 2. scott miller and the commonwealth 3. giant step 4. neko case/pieta brown 5. thrones 6. down (who, according to that description, are "metal." YES.) of course, bright eyes is also in that mix, but must be stated away from those other gems. i was hoping the "tweeter center" might have some interesting acts -- after all, they do have "twee" in their funny little name. i was very very wrong, though, because coming up at the tweeter are hot hot HOT acts usher, alan jackson and kid rock. and i can't even get a little tipsy in order to get my groove on before any of these hit peeps, unless, of course, i smuggle a little booze in the venue via the belle and sebastian flask i may as well buy off of ebay in lieu of something else. misslou sighs, and adds more stars. *** tonight, on my way to the coffee house to interview kids about how cool the strokes are, i looked intensely for a few moments at my cigarette. i watched the smoke curl, the paper burn, and i tried, for a minute or two, to time the pace of my walk to the burn of the paper. so that maybe, without really inhaling, the whole cylinder could burn away by the time i got to my destination. i gave up, and got rid of the thing the normal way. there was a boy at the coffee shop. he bought a piece of cheesecake and a glass of milk, and i watched him cut the cake into asymmetrical sections, then place red coffee stirrers vertically in the geometrically pleasing squares and rectangles of cake. i never figured out what he was doing, but he looked up at one point and smiled at me, telling me he had wondered that day what it would be like if he had no preference for the taste of anything. he ate the cake then, removing the red straws as he went. he and i are both over the top, we agreed, and far too poetic for our own respective goods. maybe none of us can cut something up and put it back together properly, save for eating the messes we make to the rhythm of a pretty song, a harmonica. women dancing. bands we've never known. growing fond of ending posts with lists of things, interconnected and disjointed. the assignment of meaning to nothing and everything, and filling all the space between with wasted time and imagined memories. i have made the tape once. and now, upon listening to the finished product, i will make it again tomorrow, the way i should have made it in the first place. love, l. lou _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Tue Apr 30 09:28:44 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:28:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: preserve your memories, they're all that's left you. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Go and see Down! Their album is *amazing*. Great, neanderthal, stoner metal. Sounds like it's being played on dinosaur bones and huge slabs of granite. By men still in the throes of evolution. Fantastic. Ahem. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bakerbaker13 at xxx.com Tue Apr 30 09:58:23 2002 From: bakerbaker13 at xxx.com (baker,baker) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 01:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: a freckled life Message-ID: <20020430085823.87270.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> dear sinister, i have a freckle on the palm of my hand. he's right up here in the corner, hesitating before he crawls out onto the diving board of my first finger, leaping out into the world, and making a name for himself as a famous gymnast or a senator. i can see his ambition -- he has a bold set of shoulders and a strong chin. but his posture has fear in it, like a small child who doesn't want to get too close to the edge of a tall and dangerous precipice. i can identify with this sort of feeling, and i'm not going to pressure him too much into leaving me just yet. but every time i see this freckle, i must admit, i am quite surprised. it has been on my hand for as long as i can remember, and for as long as i can remember, i have never felt as though it belonged to me. it's not MY freckle, you see. he doesn't seem to belong to me, and i don't like thinking of him as a part of me. i keep expecting to look down and see him gone. i think that lots of people feel this way about parts of their body. i'm not talking about the feeling of not LIKING a part of myself, though -- just about being strangers with it. like the people you knew in school, who you sat through classes with everyday for nearly a decade, but who never seemed any nearer to you than they had the first time you met them, trembling nervously, on your first day of kindergarten. i only mention this because i'm starting to notice that there is another freckle that's appeared, in another place. except this one is not on my body -- now, it seems, i'm developing a freckled life. this freckle is not a stain. it is not a mole or tumerous growth. freckles, you see, come from being in the sun. they are like little permanent hickies left from all the times i stopped to let the sun kiss my body without interrupting. i might talk now about the horrid mess my life has been lately. a car accident, a dog bite, wallets lost and found, fighting, making up and fighting again, botched surgeries, hideous scars... it would never really end. but these things are natural to me. these catastrophies and tragedies and fuck-ups are so familar, in fact, that i think of them as my own skin. and on my face, and on my shoulders, in this pale complexion of disaster, there are a healthy number of freckles -- indications that i've allowed myself enough time with that bright ball of warm light to be marked by it. i have had moments, i have been loved. i went outside for awhile, away from everything, and this is what i came back with. but no, no, no. you don't hold the palm of your hand up near the sun. and this little creature near my finger is evidence of a different kind of light. he is alone, and while i do not feel like i deserve him, i am not asking him to leave. and in my life, i have made a friend, in a very distant place, and i think of her now when i am looking at my hand. she shines on a different bit of my skin, and i can feel a mark being slowly burned there. and though i may never feel entirely deserving of that light, or that light's kiss, i am hoping all the same for a hickey, as permanent evidence, a mouth-shaped mark to scandalize the kids back home. love, baker,baker __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jpayne at xxx.org Tue Apr 30 16:03:40 2002 From: jpayne at xxx.org (Jenny Payne) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:03:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: *FREE* PA B&S TICKET In-Reply-To: Message-ID: +---------------------------+-----------------------------+ PA (Tower Theatre) B&S Ticket for Friday's show - FREE! ROW LL, RIGHT ORCHESTRA E-mail me your name and address so I can send it out today if you're interested. Jenny +---------------------------+-----------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jpayne at xxx.org Tue Apr 30 17:03:46 2002 From: jpayne at xxx.org (Jenny Payne) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:03:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: *GONE* PA B&S TICKET In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The ticket went fast... Jenny +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jo_is_18 at xxx.uk Tue Apr 30 17:28:38 2002 From: jo_is_18 at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=20tomas?=) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:28:38 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: baby baby baby you sure like to fuck... Message-ID: <20020430162838.9965.qmail@web14912.mail.yahoo.com> I am alarmed to find that in all the rediscovery of rock and roll, not one hack has had the grace to say " Jon Spencer started this shit and he does it best " I hate Journalists. Excet in my new bible CTCL's, although they even slagged of JSBX. I recently traded in my walkman. It left me disturbed and feeling like an adultress. I finally removed the gaffer tape that held the batteries in, ( 4 ) caressed the chunky buttons( fwd but no rewind ), mourned the loss of the built in mic, kissed it on all it's holes, put it in an adidas shoe box and placed it in our back yard. And bought a mini disc player. One battery! instant track jumping! Loud! great headphones! now I am making mini disc mixes of the best songs in the world. Shoot Le Pen joxx ===== small town night club over a pub/girls in make up thicken the blood __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From esme at xxx.com Tue Apr 30 20:42:18 2002 From: esme at xxx.com (ee fumblings) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:42:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: haikus revealed // week sixteen // two thousand and two Message-ID: Hi Again, Sorry to forcibly enter your box again so soon. Thursday is the first night of How Does It Feel To Be Loved? in London. It's bullshit. I don't know. This is why music is important to me. It's all useless. I'm tired of fighting it. I just want to escape. I haven't really read over it. Or proofread, or revised my thoughts. Feel free to email me and bitch about it, I know I deserve it. Holly came up with the best one ever: Softcore Cor-nell-ography. I have no belle and sebastian pals here, so that's a bit saddening. Ken also has a new work e-mail address now look. woo exciting. I report about them all... just a note about the one I liked more. I'm in the middle of so many troubles... look what happened to me... Like you're in a cruel experiment, to see how far you will go. Fool. I woke up to find Matt had posted, so I read it, still half-asleep. All I know is I am inclined to believe and I tend to like things. And he's still alive, so it couldn't have been him. Which made me wonder. I can't yet face a. a diary extract from my so called life b. Finally, a chance to push my crappy taste on others heh heh heh. Thank you, thank you, thank you to everyone who came to the club tonight. Thanks to David Moore for keeping an eye on the list, as do others. Analyses of a few songs/albums (within reason) are ok. You hope stopping one thing may help something else heal. Always worse happens. I quit college and traipsed about Lancaster waiting for nothing. Not yet. But soon. Six months on.....left the town....feeling melancholy. Heh. Some conversation. This is novel. But the last tube is iminent. This technology is teasing. We lay our emoticons bare. Roses The Roses. The Smiths the Queen is dead. The Pixies Doolittle. Not only that, but one of the people who was moaning was Linda. Can you post this? My work e-mail client doesnt play well with sinister. Mailing is cheap in the first world, and there's yet a lot of joy to sow. I took my pizza slice and left. I've had better, but not recently. I'm still quite happy. I'm chewing nicotine gum like its oxygen. Come to think of it, I really don't remember that in the list rules. Forget your "I HEART KEN CHU" badges. The cult of Ken Chu is over. I could have put it in roman numerals. Or perhaps a) b) c)... And if it doesn't happen straight away, keep on thinking about it. I remember it. Or maybe I'm just falling behind with the times. I'd let it go for free but thats just not the case unfortunately. I have forgotten now... Ok I'm off and I will stop boring you. // ee // +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lizdaplyn at xxx.com Tue Apr 30 21:35:02 2002 From: lizdaplyn at xxx.com (Liz Daplyn) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:35:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Nasty, brutish and short Message-ID: Well hello there. It�s true, Ian will never be as good as Archel. But at what, I hear you cry? Stone the crows, if it isn�t fully into the social season. If it wasn�t for the political incorrectness, I�d join a fox-hunt in order to get out of the house. Ahem. So what I�m saying is that it�d be really very nice if someone took up the reins of the forthcoming London Sunday (in Greenwich? Would be nice) and proclaimed the law. I would be picnic mummy, but I live in WALES, dammitall (but not for much longer, thank you baby Jesus and all the saints), and I think a native or at least a naturalised exotic should be the Head Sorter in situations such as these. Anyway, I just want to have a nice weekend and to ignore the fact that there are those of this parish who will be grooving and jiggling to sweet pop music in the Americas, some of them having specially buggered off over there for the purpose of viewing some girl�s �cello-playing arse. Anagrams of CHEEKY NTH PUN or, indeed, CUT HYPHEN KEN spring to mind. And, the final indignity, you NYC sods are getting a Tigermilking, when I didn�t even get to the last one here. Harrumph. Still, enjoy, and I�ll try not to think of you people with envy as I down further bottles of Pinot Noir. Ah well. List abuse is, one supposes, better than self-abuse. Finally, can someone who is *in the know* tell me which is the best Low album to buy first. I have the Christmas thing, like God knows how many of us. Off-list reply, thankyouverymuch kidz. Sinister you are my agony aunt. Goodnight. Liz :x ----- She tells her love while half asleep, In the dark hours, With half-words whispered low: As Earth stirs in her winter sleep And puts out grass and flowers Despite the snow, Despite the falling snow. Robert Graves ----- _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Apr 30 21:47:35 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20020430204735.92688.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> sitting at work today, reading the assorted press cuttings, I came across this thing, several times, about how the Scottish Parliament is wanting Scots to donate their favourite lines or verse, to be dotted up around the new building. And I got to thinking... What if it was Belle And Sebastian lyrics? Not quite poetry, but technically, it could be argued, it is verse. it was just an idea that made me smile, and made me sit and smile secretly to myself, while sorting out the dog poo from sectarianism in the press. So anyway, I've been dying to get home and e mail this to you all, becuase I was sitting there so well behaved today. I just wanted to get this little thingthat amused me out of my system. I couldn't help but imagine some of the song titles, put up around the new parliament, with Belle And Sebastian written below in italics. I'm not being serious about it, it was one of those light hearted fantasies of amusement you sometimes conjure up to help while away a few moments. Still, heres my thoughts about lines that would make amusing reading, written on a wall somewhere. "Fuck This Shit" "Could I write a piece about you now that you've made it? About the hours spent, the emptiness in your training You only did it so that you could wear Your terry underwear" "It's not as if they're paying you It's not as if it's fun At least not anymore" "Think of it this way You could either be successful or be us" "But if you are feeling sinister Go off and see a minister Chances are you'll probably feel better If you stayed and played with yourself" "If this town's your sinking ship Then you know where to jump" "I need someone to take some joy in something I do" "I am stupid and blind Desperation is the Devil's work, it is the folly of a boys empty mind" "You'd better take a weight off of your mind and listen To what other people say Cause things are going wrong your own way" "Trying hard not to please Anyone, all the time Being a rebel's fine But you go all the way to being brutal" (For Margo MacDonald's office, perhaps?) "Boo to the business world!" "There are people going hungry every day They've got nothing on their plates And you're filling your fat face with every different kind of cake And if you ever go lardy, or go lame I will drop you straight away That's the price you have to pay For every stupid thing you say There are people going lonely, and they'll stay Lonely fay into the year Because you're making blinkers fashionable And fashionably you'll say "All is equal in love and war" and "I'm sorry, but I've got some things to do" And you pretend to read a book you'll never finish till the day" "The wider issues of the day Don't interest you, you'll have to pay" ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Apr 30 22:00:14 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: inspiration Message-ID: <20020430210014.8417.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> sitting at work today, reading the assorted press cuttings, I came across this thing, several times, about how the Scottish Parliament is wanting Scots to donate their favourite lines or verse, to be dotted up around the new building. And I got to thinking... What if it was Belle And Sebastian lyrics? Not quite poetry, but technically, it could be argued, it is verse. it was just an idea that made me smile, and made me sit and smile secretly to myself, while sorting out the dog poo from sectarianism in the press. So anyway, I've been dying to get home and e mail this to you all, becuase I was sitting there so well behaved today. I just wanted to get this little thingthat amused me out of my system. I couldn't help but imagine some of the song titles, put up around the new parliament, with Belle And Sebastian written below in italics. I'm not being serious about it, it was one of those light hearted fantasies of amusement you sometimes conjure up to help while away a few moments. Still, heres my thoughts about lines that would make amusing reading, written on a wall somewhere. "Fuck This Shit" "Could I write a piece about you now that you've made it? About the hours spent, the emptiness in your training You only did it so that you could wear Your terry underwear" "It's not as if they're paying you It's not as if it's fun At least not anymore" "Think of it this way You could either be successful or be us" "But if you are feeling sinister Go off and see a minister Chances are you'll probably feel better If you stayed and played with yourself" "If this town's your sinking ship Then you know where to jump" "I need someone to take some joy in something I do" "I am stupid and blind Desperation is the Devil's work, it is the folly of a boys empty mind" "You'd better take a weight off of your mind and listen To what other people say Cause things are going wrong your own way" "Trying hard not to please Anyone, all the time Being a rebel's fine But you go all the way to being brutal" (For Margo MacDonald's office, perhaps?) "Boo to the business world!" "There are people going hungry every day They've got nothing on their plates And you're filling your fat face with every different kind of cake And if you ever go lardy, or go lame I will drop you straight away That's the price you have to pay For every stupid thing you say There are people going lonely, and they'll stay Lonely fay into the year Because you're making blinkers fashionable And fashionably you'll say "All is equal in love and war" and "I'm sorry, but I've got some things to do" And you pretend to read a book you'll never finish till the day" "The wider issues of the day Don't interest you, you'll have to pay" "And when you saw it all come, it was waving the flag Of the United States of Calamity, hey! After all that you've done boy, Im sure you're going to pay " "It's something to speak of the way you are feeling To crowds there assembled Do you ever feel you have gone too far?" "Hey people, looking out the window, you'll be gone tomorrow" "And all my friends deserted me because you painted me As the fraud I really was" "It would take a left wing Robin Hood to pay for school" "For every step there is a local boy who wants to be a hero" Anyway, I thought those would be my favourite lyrics that would make some sense to see in the Scottish Parliament. Probably raise a smile out of me when I go to work there also. And Belle and Sebastian are scottish (well, except Bob), and aren't lyrics just poetry to music anyway? I might just write them on the walls of the lavvy anyhow*. ;) Thats it. End of post. Love, Idles (PS. Sorry, I accidentally might have posted this a few minutes ago, when I hit the wrong button and it was only half done. Isn't that always the case?) * I probably won't really. ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Tue Apr 30 22:44:01 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 22:44:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: celebrity babies Message-ID: <20020430214401.3981.qmail@web14407.mail.yahoo.com> Hi folks. i know it's not really the place to mention it but everyone likes a good bit of gossip don't they? You can tell everyone at work/uni/school/in prison/in the "special" hospital (delete as appropriate) tomorrow and you'll look like you know stuff and when it does come out everyone will say "oh (insert name) told us that aaaaggges ago". Hope this isn't in tomorrows papers anyway or this'll be a bit lame. Kylie up the duff anyway. Not mine I'm sorry to say, but could we have a moments silence for the probable end to that wonderful bottom. Does terrible things to a woman apparently, my sister told me. Oh yes, Bjork too. terrifying pixie like child that'll be. Anyway, I like the idea of b&s lrics at work. I think I'd have "get me away from here I'm dying". hmmm, i love my job but not long to go before i can move. All you london people - how much for a tiny flat in somewhere not too great but nowhere where I get shot in the neck for my mobile? I know it's stupidly expensive so am i better off trying to find a larger place with some mates or what? any help on this subject would be gratefully received - and i could come to one of these picnics in camden that sound so fun while I'm stuck in the north-east. Hope everyone is cool and absolutely wizard (word of the day). See ya Love Dean XXX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Tue Apr 30 22:46:04 2002 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 22:46:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilking NYC - open to all :-) Message-ID: <20020430214604.32251.qmail@web10404.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Adam asked if people attending the May 5th NYC gig are welcome to turn up to Tigermilking on the 6th. HELL YEAH! We'll probably be flyering both nights, and anyone is welcome to come along. It may well get quite full, though, so come along early! It is free, after all :-) And don't forget to come and say hello to the balding English bloke with the big grin :-) Mark xxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hobart at xxx.uk Tue Apr 30 23:30:28 2002 From: hobart at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:30:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: two shorts, and a side-dish of revenge Message-ID: <002501c1f096$c66a4b20$20ed193e@default> another bar. always a bar. this one has been reinvented in recent months. they want it to look rustic, so they hang toby jugs from the ceiling. and it looks like a pub, in wolverhampton, with toby jugs hanging from the ceiling. my friend enters, and strides across the room towards me, moving deftly between the barstools. barstools that dream of being sat on, perhaps suspecting that such a dream, once achieved, would be hollow. the sinister list orders a triple brandy from the barman and instructs him that i will be paying. i fumble in my pocket and watch those perfectly-formed ever-moving lips. 'make it quick, ian. i've got better things to do. i've got a working lunch with kirsten kenyon and i don't have time for this...' 'sorry'.. i suddenly can't remember why i'm here. i stare at the pleasingly androgynous face again, watching the lips close and then open, smiles passing along them like ghosts over a microphone. 'stop fucking looking at me, and talk. when i finish my drink, i'm going. make it fast' 'err..' 'oh' 'well, i just wanted to tell you about my top ten favourite -' the sinister list finishes its brandy, picks up my tequila and throws it in my face. then it steals my cigarettes and departs. a barmaid passes by, in fishnet stockings and a bow tie. i kick her in the head. ------------------------------------------------- sitting in a park in paris, france reading the news and it sure looks bad they've never given peace a chance it was just a dream someone once had the bench is cold, but the feeling reminds me that i'm alive. the clouds are gathering. the metaphors are flowing thick and fast. somewhere, i can hear a gathering. i wonder if its the love brigade, the hate brigade or the not in my back yard parade. the sinister list lowers its arse towards the wood, hovvering just an inch above the slat as if it is concerned about catching something. my contagious apathy, perhaps. 'cigarette' 'no, thanks. i'm trying to stop' 'it wasn't an offer, ian. it was a request. a command. give me a cigarette' i hand over a packet that has been occupying my pocket. 'ta. you should get some better clothes. its cold' and the list is gone, running towards a gathering in front of me. or perhaps away from a gathering behind me. i stare at the iron monument to impossibility that dominates this city, pulling my cardigan closer, wishing i had a cigarette, and wondering if its true that all romantics meet the same fate some day. ------------------------------------------------------------ a note... someone sent me a note. and i've been carrying it with me ever since, waiting for a clue.. 'dear ian, you will never be as good as archel playforth love and kisses archel playforth' if only i could figure out who it was from. there's no clue on it. i decided to see if anyone could help me. i asked the man who stands in birmingham centre with a microphone. he told me i had to renounce my soul to jesus, and i would find the answer. so i tried. there was a pregnant pause. and then another pregnant pause. i waited for someone to say 'okay'. i'm still waiting. so i thought i know what i do, i do, i'll phone alix campbell, because she knows about this sort of thing..... 'hello' 'is that alix campbell? this is ian. i'm wondering if-' 'if you call me again, i'll phone the police' she hung up. clearly she knows somebody else called ian who is a bit odd. i tried to ring her back, but a spanish woman called alixita told me lixi had moved out and wouldn't ever be coming back. i phoned the operator. she said she knew who i was, and if i promised to stop sending her dead animal parts, she would help me. she told me to look at the envelope, see if there was a return address 'yes' 'well...?' 'archel playforth's house, archelplayforthworld' 'so... do you know who lives there?' 'errr.................. cam you give me a clue' 'no, i'm asking YOU' . she sighed. i could hear her licking her fingers in the background. i hung up, and sent her a dead squirrel, with its intestines wound around its neck as a stylish scarf-ette. all telephone operators like such things, in my experience. i asked around my neighbours. the lady across the road said she'd seen a lovely, long legged, lolloping llama licking my letterbox. i asked her if it she'd seen it delivering anything and she slapped me, and told me not to be familiar. finally, success! the blind woman who lives in a shed on the corner said she'd seen a strange shuffling sight in a duffle coat, muttering to herself and trying to remove the long nobule of snot that dripped constantly from her nose. there was only one person it could be. i wondered what a fitting recompense was, and decided i would catch the offender, and sell her into white slavery. i looked in the phone book under 'white slave merchants' but there was only an recruiting advertisement for burger king. so i tried the modern interweb. you know, there are a lot of slaves on the internettoweb. lots and lots. i was amazed. there were too many to make an educated choice. i just found one named 'of human bondage' at www.whipme.com - they said they specialised in chains and hard labour. i chuckled as i called them... the thought of archel playforth - sneaky, scurrilous, southern get, receiving her just deserts.. i asked them how much they would give me for the services of a sneaky, scurrilous southern get, and they said they'd send me a cheque in the post. i gave them her address. they should be arriving there about now. right about now. i'm listening to the magnetic fields, flicking through my french porn collection, ruminating on how clever i am and imagining her face as the boys turn up to get her. i hope they work her hard. i've seen how they make slaves work. i've watched nearly all of 'cool hand luke'. i hope they make her wear unflattering overalls, build roads and eat lots and lots of eggs until she ends up looking like paul newman. sing along, my dears, sing along.. 'that's the sound of the sneaky scurrilous southern get working on the chain ga-a-ang that's the sound of the sneaky scurrilous southern get working on the chain gang' xx ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From umets at xxx.com Sun Apr 28 08:39:30 2002 From: umets at xxx.com (ulla) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 10:39:30 +0300 Subject: Sinister: i guess you go too far when pianos try to be guitars Message-ID: dearest Sinister, i wouldn't say i'm actually shy or scared of people in general but sometimes it does take me hours to prepare myself to call someone i don't know. sometimes it takes me hours to call someone i know even. i won't go to the shop so easily that has no visitors in it because i'm scared that selling-woman would talk to me because she's bored and wants to talk to someone but i would be only like "mhm" or mumbling something she won't understand or not even that. just nod. looking down nod. sometimes it doesn't even help if someone is with me, some friend i mean. i'm too scared of not buying the things i've been recommended by anybody when i finally am brave enough to walk to the counter. even if i don't like them that much. that would be sort of impolite i feel. i certainly won't bargain. i guess i can say i'm not much of a shopper. except in record stores. i'm not so scared in there because i usually know what i'm looking for. i change the side of the road when i see people with microphones or/and cameras standing and interviewing passers by. sometimes i run away when they try to ask something from me. or pretend i'm deaf. (it's usually hard though as i walk wearing headphones). i look down when i walk alone. it's one of the most scariest things sitting alone in the cafe waiting for your friend and not having your scrap-book with you. scrap-book is like a friend you can always rely on. scrap-book and pens. they make me feel confident. they make me feel that i'm not totally useless, that there is still some hope for me. and that autumn won't stay away forever. i miss sweater weather. i miss wearing long woolly scarves with occasional yellow leaf stacked on it. i miss feeling rain on my face and hands. i miss the sounds that wind makes when it's angry. i miss cats meowing to me on dark alleys. i miss meowing them back. i miss chestnuts dropping. i miss piles of colourful leaves and me in them. i even miss struggles with umbrellas outside in the cold rain. i miss those who i love. a constant ache it is. i'm afraid that i start to forget all these small things i like about my friends if i don't see them that often. but it's not so bad because i still want to remember all those things. i want to keep in contact and tell them things about everyday life. i want to make them happy. and i know they feel the same way about me and that is a most important thing in friendship. that and trust. there is something you all have been constantly telling to me all this time i've been here. not personally to me, but to everybody else as well. you've told me that it's ok to be that way. it's ok to be scared about things that most people enjoy. thanks to that i haven't walked alone that much for a while now. i've got braver. thank you for walking with me Sinister. best birthday wishes to you! ulla +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+