From ferris at xxx.com Thu Aug 1 12:16:20 2002 From: ferris at xxx.com ( FS Thomas) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:16:20 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Tomorrow, Tomorrow, Tomorrow, Message-ID: <001501c2394c$dd1083e0$fb409718@ohma5> Creeps it's petty pace...but that's now what this is all about. Thanks to whoever (Sam?) it was who posted the Peel Acres tracks. (Excellence...) -f. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jacintha_j at xxx.com Thu Aug 1 13:57:47 2002 From: jacintha_j at xxx.com (Jacintha J) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 12:57:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ooo graduation! The long awaited day... Message-ID: Hello all, I was in such suspense about graduating to a fully-fledged Sinister member, having been reading all your lovely posts for ever so long now. However the day that I had been anticipating for so long turned out to be rather an anticlimax when I realised that I had in fact received an email several days ago saying that I had graduated. How I missed it I have no idea. But yay! I have my voice. I feel like Ariel in The Little Mermaid when she is able to speak again. Well, I suppose I'd better get the awkward introduction bit out of the way - here's where you scroll down the page in an uncaring fashion, secure in the knowledge that you all already know each other and I am merely a lonely newcomer! Hi, I'm Jo. I am 19 years of age and was born in the fair month of January. I currently reside in Preston (north-west England) because it is the holidays. Soon I will return to sunny (aha ha ha) Sheffield to begin my second year studying history and philosophy at university. So, that's me. I apologise for the unoriginality of my introduction, there have to be people like me or the witty and interesting people just wouldn't get on in life. If anyone lives near either of those places and would like to take me under their wing I would be very grateful if they would email me, bereft as I am of Belle and Sebastian loving friends. Well that's all I have to say. I realise I may have slightly bent a Sinister rule already by not mentioning Belle and Sebastian so much in this email, but if I smile sweetly at Mummy I hope I will be forgiven. I was just so excited to have a voice! love Jo xxx ~if i cannot change the will of heaven i will release hell~ _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ruthmaverick at xxx.com Thu Aug 1 22:42:45 2002 From: ruthmaverick at xxx.com (Ruth Allan) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 21:42:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: celebrity boxing Message-ID: hey people to compliment jonathan's post regarding televison, I've lately become intrigued with a show called "celebrity boxing". it's apparently broadcast in north america and features various "zlist" celebs who actually box! how fantastic. is it true? to more mundane things (yay!) life here, though I might whine, complain and try not to post too frequently about it, is equally fine. I've relocated to manchester after 6 months with dumb brums who of course are not at all dumb an just sound that way to outsiders who cant understand why speak so gradually. its just precise. I think. which leads me to mention a recent discovery about the self. I'd long thought I was nothing like my father. unlike him I am excitable, have interest in subjects other than gardening, valve widths or the state of my gout / cabbages/ assorted other weekly obsessions and think I rush around quickly. But over time, at work especially, Ive noticed that as folks run out of the building to the city below, lunch , home or toilet, I have long been left behind, like the kid who couldnt get her jacket on properly at school and others said "rooooooootttthhh" in a long drawn out kind of doh fashion as she scrabbled to get her stuff together, as they still do. At a "getting to know each others name" social-work (event) this evening I , having drifted off a bit, re engaged into conversation to find my boss doing a canny inpression of me precisely placing objects into my various bags "she's the slowest person alive! like this.. place, place, place mumbling this goes here and the phone here and the..." Now if I were I more sensitive soul may have take this to heart, but no, I instead felt proud to be precise like my dad. some girls are slower than others? to return to the point of recently having moved back to mancheser, I am slihtly overwhelmed by the lack of boredom and increase in social comitments Its so weird! I actually have things to say occasssionally... BUT! amongst this plethora of social whirl I would love to meet other sinisterines who might be in the area, perhaps to see a band and for starters at short notice I might recommend the CITY:LIVE night on monday @ roadhouse manchester england (sorry to most of list!) featuring the amazing Moco. you needent even speak to me! just go! they ROCK! a quick thank you to colin for the tape tree, james for the CD burning service and david for being very very lovely ruthx _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Thu Aug 1 18:45:38 2002 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Chimpee McChimp) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 10:45:38 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Long Time no Post... Message-ID: Hello all, I really haven't had a reason to post in oh say 3 years... Funny that I have been on this list that long. Where did everyone else go? To Paul Field: Love your flat post. Get any replies? I can vouch for Paul, he's a real stand-up guy. Definitely a keeper. You'd be lucky to have a roomie like him... I've been listening to the Ramone's lately. For no good reason other than it makes my drive to seem less. It's great to pass semi's in the fog listening to those 3 minute songs. That's what pop is about. Passing semi's. Yer pal, Rachael _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rjg at xxx.com Thu Aug 1 23:16:46 2002 From: rjg at xxx.com (richard john gillanders) Date: 1 Aug 2002 22:16:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I took my lucky break and I broke it in two Message-ID: <20020801221646.14839.qmail@toast.com> hi and all that. I went to the national pop league on friday and before it I met stuart murdoch but, yeah, of course it wasn't stuart murdoch it just looked a bit like him if you looked at him the right way. I shoulda guessed since this guy had a mobile phone even if he couldn't always get it to work. I wonder if he had "who will buy this beautiful morning?" as his ringtone. again. he wouldn't have fooled me since I knew he had an E. and that kid definitely didn't. although I might be more inclined to watch him if he had. coulda turned those pickpockets into a bunch of ravers. doesn't sound much worse than what they've done with other crap transference of period crap things before. anyway. I went to a pub quiz in glasgow on sunday. we, like, quite won it and by making one of my friends look like a clown and not choosing a fellow scott walker fan I managed not to win the money prize. we had to make do with the beer prize. no-one else won the money prize. that was, like, two weeks ago, I guess. we went again last sunday and won quite well again and I went up on stage again and the quiz guy, well, he remembered me. he made some cheap remark about my outfits. well. I tried to find out what was behind the green door and it turned out to be paul mccartney and wings. double-sided, mind you. not two faced. actually. six faced. although I almost forgot about it. and other things. but was reminded and reunited by a new acquaintance. oh yeah. but we didn't win the money prize again and I told the dude "see ya next week" and I thought I was funny enough. oh yeah. before the quiz. we went to some INDYMEDIA thing at the GFT. that was kinda funny but also sort of BORING. I was amazed when an ally walked in. turned out he was american though. I wouldn't mind some american allies. but no american allys. my one and only ally was in sweden at the time. that was what the amazement was for. that was there. at first. not that they looked too similar. just similar enough that I could make myself believe that I believed it was him. self-belief has never been a problem. don't ask me why. please. ally said they don't have apostrophes in sweden. I thought I'd like to live there. in that case. IN THIS CASE? no, not unless I'm thinking of statistics. it's strange how natural behaviour can be affected, exaggerated when it's known that it's being recorded. well, I'd prefer no apostrophes to too many. if you know what I mean. ally now says that they actually do have apostrophes. just in the wrong places. so, it's too much like here. I think I'll stay put, for the moment. this moment could last as long as one month. give or take a day. I hope it lasts this long. only. since after that time I don't know what! maybe I'll be re-evaluating something I think I'm already re-evaluating. but from afar. if I can convince that I am worthy. and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. well. I happened, also, to see Stevie Jackson and All his Band on saturday night. that was good. they played a bunch of ROCK 'N' ROLL tunes. bob and mick and stuart were there too. and that kid that was on the caledonian macbrains shit TV show once and who I had sort of reprimanded already. maybe last year. but. yeah. another couple of random guys playing and singing. the bassist looked like he was straight out of the mavericks. his shirt did. at least. although, turned out he WAS some sort of maverick. a television voiceover maverick, if you will. if I could, you know. but. yeah. there was some impressive dancing on show. some people were more impressed than others. some of us were compressed. some of us, whatever, repressed. blah blah blah blah blah blah. if I had bothered to set this out in chronological order. I might never have sent it. I have talked about ivor cutler and person to person file transferring and how a colour, thought by some to be cream or something, was probably just off-white. and all the time my face was getting less redder. or not quite as red. man, these were different occasions, okay? I don't care. colours. I so used to care. I'd like to visit london at the end of september. I'm being, almost, sponsored by some. it seems. or just. coaxed. or just. being told it would be okay if I did. I mean. cuz I said I'd like to. why would they say I shouldn't? well, they wouldn't, obviously. it's nice when it seems like people like you. I read in the herald today that 'the likes of indie troupe Belle & Sebastian are reviving Van songs such as Brown Eyed Girl." this was, of course, within a piece about van morrison. ivan the terrible. I quite like him but. we ALL know what 'brown eyed girl' is about. anyway. what's this? B&S are reviving? as we speak? no they ain't. have they revived? I hadn't thought so. 'brown eyed girl' IS a song by van morrison. that much is true. what's it all about? yeah. uh-huh. okay. yeah. I don't even mind that this is my least favourite thing I've ever written. today. love, richard. __________________________________________ Join http://www.toast.com today for your own free, flash-based webmail! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jfb4 at xxx.edu Fri Aug 2 00:22:19 2002 From: jfb4 at xxx.edu (jfb4) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:22:19 -0700 Subject: Sinister: celebrity boxing Message-ID: <3D278856@webmail.humboldt.edu> hello all In answer to your question Ruth, yes, there is a tv show over here in America called "Celebrity Boxing". It features such stars as Screech from "Saved by the Bell", Danny Bonaduce of the "Partridge Family.", and Greg Brady from "The Brady Bunch." It also features certain people like John Wayne Bobbitt, who rose to fame in the early 90's after his wife cut off his "manhood" after she found out he was having an affair. John Wayne Bobbitt was going to box Joey Buttafucco, who got famous by sleeping with 17-year-old Amy Fisher, then he went on to host a talk show. Another example of folks dying to fight in this show and reclaim their fame are Tonya Harding and Darva Conger, the winner of the infamous tv show, "Who wants to marry a millionaire? Needless to say, it's a show that no one likes to admit that they watch, and as far as I know it has not been renewed for another season. -Jen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com Fri Aug 2 14:26:01 2002 From: pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com (hannah brown) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 14:26:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: safe as milk Message-ID: hello there my lovelies, I am going to have to make a brave announcement that may jepordise (?) my future in sinister, um, i don't like Storytelling, there, i said it, go ahead, burn me, beat me with sticks, i'll understand. I always seem to be dissapointed with movie soundtracks. I REALLY want to like it, i just find it annoying, oh dear, what am i to do?????????? Maybe i should listen to it a bit more. I have been talking about m�m in my posts lately and now i am totally clear about the two different m�ms that exist. The one you lot are talking about are playing at the spitz on sept 23rd and i am going to be there if anyone else would like to pop along? i think it was Histrianic who was talking about showers over baths a while back, i totally agree here, baths are completely overrated. Last week i decided to have a big hot bath to relax, i also had the munchies so i took in 4 chocolate digestive biscuits with me, after all i had seen those women in the 80's eating chocolate in the bath and it looked dead good fun and sexy too. So, after afew minutes soaking i took my lovely biscuits and ended up with crumbs all over my chest and half a soggy biscuit floating amonst the bubbles, i only ate two and left the others by the toothpaste, i think they are still there now. I don't know why i felt the need to tell you this, it just felt right. well, that's about it really, i could shhpeel on about my hellish experience at work on sunday but i think i'll just stick with the bath thing for now, see you all soon i hope, love hannah b. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Fri Aug 2 16:15:47 2002 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 15:15:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Just say what you see Message-ID: Hello The funniest moment on Catchphrase was when the catchphrase was actually �Say what you see� Roy: Here�s Mister Chips. What�s he doing? Bob: Erm. Saying things, er, �Don�t speak until you�re spoken to�, er.. Roy: It�s close Bob, but not quite right. Just say what you see. Bob: Er, Mister Chips.. �Chips with everything.� Roy: Just SAY WHAT YOU SEE, BOB! Bob: �Speak your mind?� �Think before you speak?� Roy: SAY WHAT YOU SEE! Well that was basically what happened. I might have got the words a bit wrong, and Roy�s hair might not have been so grey as I imagined, but the point is that the contestant was so stupid he couldn�t guess the show�s own catchphrase. What I do remember, in lucid slow motion, as if the phosphors had burnt their red, green and blue into my brain, is Roy�s face as he turned to announce the Ready Money Round. His smile was the same as he always smiled on a Saturday afternoon, but it seemed strangely fragile, as if his teeth would fall out if he didn�t stand perfectly still, and his knuckles were white as he gripped his cue cards. It was the last series that Roy Walker presented and I really think that was the moment he decided he had to leave. I�d like to think the song Roy Walker was about this moment of epiphany, but it probably isn�t. It seems to be more about a man called Roy who likes walking. So I got to listen to the new songs, eventually, and they�re pretty good. Live recordings have a bit of extra edge to them, and the whole band sounded like they�re having a lot of fun. Let�s hope this is a sign of things to come. I think if Belle and Sebastian have lost anything recently it�s because of over-production, which has smoothed off a little dynamism and passion. Not that they should try to be amateurish, but sometimes songs become a bit bland if they�ve had all their bumps smoothed away. I liked Desperation Made A Fool Of Me a lot. It reminded me of a Velvet Underground song but I can�t remember which one. I was at the Commonwealth Games last week. The whole thing was very exciting. Firstly, I�d never been to Manchester before, and I was looking forward to riding on trams. But, more importantly, I was meeting my long-lost Uncle Peter for the first time. The story about why he�s my long-lost Uncle is too long and I�ve probably told it before, but he genuinely is and none of us had ever met him before. He�s also Australia�s top diving coach, and had a girl called Irina diving in the Games. It was all really good fun, and Irina won two gold medals, but the best thing of all was going to the pub afterwards with Uncle Peter. I hadn�t known what to expect, really, but suppose I imagined that, being a top coach, he�d be sort of hard-edged and focussed. But in fact he was a bit of a softie. Also he didn�t seem to be bothered about the diving at all. In fact the first thing he told us was a funny story about how the shower leaked in the hotel he was staying in and whenever they used it water poured through the ceiling into the dining room. So the hotel owner had told them that they should only use it at night so the dining hall would dry out by the morning. I like little stories like this, and thought it was funny that he ignored all the big stories of gold medals and somersault pikes, and told us about things like that and about the curry he had last night instead. I liked him a lot. Hannah thinks baths are overrated. Have you ever tried eating biscuits in the shower? Mind you, I do wonder how people read books in the bath. It seems like the perfect combination; a good bath, good book and good biscuit, but whenever I've tried reading in the bath the pages have got wet and stuck together and once I dropped a book in altogether and had to dry it off in the airing cupboard. But people read in the bath all the time. Do you? How do you do it? I really want to know. bye r x _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Fri Aug 2 17:24:33 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:24:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: the lady in the radiator Message-ID: <20020802162433.10229.qmail@web14407.mail.yahoo.com> Crikey. All i want is a little 2 bed flat. That's not too much to ask is it?, but I can't find one on the internet that doesn't sound really nasty. Yes, relocation is in the air as I finish my course/worky thingy and have to move to my new job in sunny lincolnshire next month. I therefore have about 4 weeks to 1. finish about half of a 20000 word thesis 2. finish an equally sized work portfolio 3. get a bank loan and buy a car, some new suits, some other stuff. 4. Find somewhere to live 5. continue to work and have some semblance of a social life. I think the last one of the last one might have to be put on hold for a bit. grrr. It's going to be a bit weird as I don't know anyone down there. I just hope there's some people at my new workplace who haven't hit their sixties yet. Only next door to my native Nottinghamshire though, so I can go and see the might Notts Forest if the mood takes me. Someone mentioned Lauren Laverne (Robin?). Yes, I am also a long-term admirer *sigh* I noticed on the Glasto coverage though that she's looking a tad thin. Needs to get back on the lager and pies that one, nobody likes girls that are too skinny do they? Right, I've decided in my ultimate wisdom that everyone on the list has got to go out tonight, mainly because it's friday. That's a direct order and I WILL be checking up on you. *puts on stalker anorak and laughs manically* (they always wear anoraks don't they?). Recent films what I have watched Scooby Doo - shite (but have you noticed he speaks exactly like Doodles off the Tweenies?) Austin Powers III - not nearly as good as the first two, but Beyonce is lovely and the first 10 minutes are very good Men in Black II - pretty good but not really a laugh out loudy one. Worth a watch though. That's my humble opinion anyways. Don't suppose they have sinister picnics in lincolnshire - sob sob. RIght I'm off to continue my search for a nice little Austin Powers type sleazed up bachelor pad. yeah baby. oh yes. Belle and sebastian are good. :o} ahem. Loads of love and don't forget your orders! Dean XX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Fri Aug 2 18:05:06 2002 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 18:05:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: coagulation made Tofu of me Message-ID: Hello there, Yesterday I thought about posting half a paragraph to sinister containing little to no information, or maybe something to the list that only 5 people on the list would know/care about, but then I remember that that might make me look like a , so I didn't. Like the man himself Richard John Gillanders we went to a pub quiz last night, and like RJG we didn't win any money either, nor did we win any beer. Because we were RUBBISH. Well, maybe not RUBBISH, but quite Rubbish at least, and our Monopoly knowledge is poor. There was one gallon of Ale on offer - we had no idea how much a gallon was, maybe if we did we'd have won the quiz, we guessed it to be 3.5 litres, it is in fact approximately 3.785) As some kind of freakish coincidence, we talked about Celebrity Boxing before the quiz, and that maybe there should be an indie pop celeb boxing, and you know, Stuart Murdoch would wipe the floor, and Morrisey would be the type who hide lead inside his gloves. Does anyone on sinister live on Hampstead Road, Euston, London? I bet at least TWO people out of this list of ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO do, and about ONE cares. Wanna hang out with me on the weekend? Then maybe I can try and emulate the wonderful Miss Marianna Longmire whose social life seems to be endless, with all the scaffolding climbing adventures and all. Speaking of adventures, the Californian picnic seemed to have gone well, ah the expert hands of Mr Bapps, he can be a whole picnic in himself! And Sara I.G.F. Bus Stoppers said: >>p.p.s...did you know that one can drive the length of the 110 freeway (from pasadena to san pedro) from end to end...in about 30 minutes?<< Sara appears to be a bit of a GIRL RACER.. mmm girl and motors, and is that how she stops the buses? By cutting them up Michel Schumacher style? Love and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: I seem to be in a name dropping mood tonight, maybe it's because Christine Irene named dropped me the other day and that's a good thing. I hope you get better soon stine! P.S.2.: Now that B&S have recorded another PEEL SESSION, will they be releasing the clues to the TREASURE HUNT any time soon? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather_boa at xxx.com Fri Aug 2 23:19:38 2002 From: feather_boa at xxx.com (Feather Boa) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 23:19:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: brighton*picnic*brighton*picnic Message-ID: hello all, i'm quite excited about the brighton picnic. no, really. most of the york-sinister-massive are going to be there, and hopefully you are too! although you might have to leave quite early as neither archel or i can put you up (my flat is going to be full of ysms, sorry - unless you really want to sleep in the hall or something). plus, me being a fool, it clashes with brighton pride, which should be ok tho'. my dad said he was going to phone the police and tell them there was a rave on the beach ("and you know what happened last time"), i said i didn't think it would work. i'm going to france on wednesday with mr stuart h (we broke up, but we're still friends) and our friend sarah l. that should be lots of fun, although i'm a bit worried, because i booked the hotel on the net because i didn't trust my french, and i'm worried about the whole thing. ah well. i spent the whole of the last two weeks working at a magazine thanks to the boy asm's sister. it was good and my name should be in it and everything. and they gave me a bag of goodies when i left. which was rilly sweet. lemony snicket is a king among men. go to www.lemonysnicket.com stephin merrit wrote a song and everything. laura llew's beens saying it for ages, but i only just found the bandwagon to jump on. anyway, i'm knackered. see you saturday (maybe), pip pip, FB X _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ILIVErug at xxx.com Sat Aug 3 06:44:11 2002 From: ILIVErug at xxx.com (ILIVErug at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 01:44:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Is it just me or was b&s not on conan tonite? Message-ID: <36825B55.19291E52.006DA117@aol.com> Hmmm... the nbc site says... 12:37 Tonite conan welcomes blabla, blabla, and belle and sebastian. then underneath it says, charlie sheen, blabla, and blabla on conan tonite. i know tonites friday so i dont know if they air conan twice like they usually do. leno conan then leno and conan again. but i guess ill stay up and maybe thats the one with b&s. damnit! i want to see this performance. i cant believe i missed it the first time around. oh well! -vicky +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brianraindogs at xxx.com Sat Aug 3 12:36:57 2002 From: brianraindogs at xxx.com (Brian McNeill) Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 11:36:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Status (Rick Par Fit For the course!) Message-ID: . . .And he has no intention of updating Quo's three-chord formula, now or ever. "Why? Would you tell BB King to go and be a jazz singer?" Well, what about the dumb-ass sexism of Heavy Traffic's silliest track, The Oriental? ("Her name was Mia, from North Korea . . . the Oriental, very, very special, if you ever get some you want another one. . .") Explain that. He is nonchalant. "You'll have to ask John [Edwards, the bassist] - he wrote it. I like Indian girls myself. I go weak at the knees. Woof." Gotta larf, aincha? The Guardian, 02/08/02 _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jiffy_popper at xxx.com Sat Aug 3 15:45:18 2002 From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 10:45:18 -0400 Subject: Sinister: tiny post of questions Message-ID: Hello Sinister, I am sorry this post will not be so much in the way of some good, proper Reporting Back because I never have enough time left on these internet cafe things plus I am going to the cinema (alone, sad i know, but it is such a pretty little theatre you almost feel guilty opening bag of candy to eat with the chomp chomp noises because it is so pristine!) to see Vivre Sa Vie. I caught Oon's lovely Reporting Back, and what a lovely person she is. Oon, thankyou for that little bag of candy, I was horrible and ate the entire bag on my drunken busride home. My favourite was that little corn candy, that little yellow single piece. So sweet! I am scheming to go to Thailand, which is a nice dream to have as the rain and cold is starting to get a bit depressing now. I have been in wild Winchburgh for a while now, where has all the time gone? But I have also been to Glasgow and Edinburgh and seen lots of lovely listees, some for the first time, and even to see Belle and Sebastian for another time (although that is stale news by now...I could maybe add a few quick bites to that lovely show. Struan in pale green blouse. Revelation of his temper...it is good to want a man who COULD be wicked. Not that he would actually be wicked, but just the fact that he could be, if he wanted to. That is a conversation from one of the Anne Shirley books I think. Beautiful song, 'Winchita Lineman' that everyone in the world seems to know except me, such lovely words and Stevie saying 'You'll not get a better song than this' in his Stevie way) I just wanted to quickly post to say I am going to Galway and (maybe) Clare in Ireland around August 15th or so, I don't know if there are any listees out that way but it never hurts to ask. Or if anyone has any recommendations of something to see please email me. I will do some real and proper Reporting Back soon. Love, Genevieve p.s. When is the next Winchester Woodside Club? p.p.s Also, if there is an actual picnic in Edinburgh, please email me, because I miss the notification of them with my uneven access to sinister digest. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Sat Aug 3 18:24:03 2002 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 18:24:03 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I chafe, you chafe, he/she/it chafes! Message-ID: <20020803172403.38344.qmail@web10405.mail.yahoo.com> Ho, Sinister, I have been repeating the words "spiders and cabbages" to myself for the last few minutes while muh computer, which is currently occupied in the ultra-important task of downloading B&S Peel tracks, brings up the Yahoo Compose Message screen. I am here to talk to you about spiders and cabbages, though a few weeks ago I also kept repeating the word "spiders" to myself, only to forget at the last moment what I was going to post about. Maybe the discomfiting effects of heroin, I don't know. So, cabbages. They were mentioned in the last digest by someone, whose name I can't remember even though I only read it a few minutes ago. Ruth? Maybe, apologies if not. This mystery person reminded me of my interview for Big School, at the age of 13. This involved lunch with the headmaster, a dapper, learned little man who was not to be daunted by the most gigantic word in the dictionary. Ahem. All I could talk about was cabbages. In one of those terrible moments when you find yourself making a ridiculous statement ("yes, I love gardening too!"), and then find the unwelcome tangent stretching out before you like an increasingly wobbly tightrope, I deceided to tell him all about the cabbages I was growing. Small and tight, they were, but healthy and sure to be delicious! Even me at 13 knew what a fool I was making of myself. Sigh. Onto spiders, which may be no more interesting but which is at least a little more up to date. For a couple of weeks before I went on holiday, I noticed a smallish spider sitting, unmoving, on my lamp shade above my bed. I was worried about it getting hungry, until I noticed it was sitting over a clutch of eggs. When I got back from holidays yesterday, I found the poor spider, crunched up and lifeless, on my duvet. Excitedly, I scrutinised the lamp, and found SEVEN tiny spiders attached to it! A couple of them got a bit frisky, and started abseiling like the cutest little marines, so I moved them into a shady corner to start their spidery lives. But the other five are still there. At this point, I am wondering if the urban legend about how many spiders the average human eats in a lifetime is actually true, and whether I might end up managing it in a one-night orgy of arachnid-munching... (which idly reminded me that Italian for peanut is "arachido", which is frankly nicer to munch, but you could easily get the two confused) Woo! Just listened to "Desperation made a Fool out of Me" from the Peel session. I wish I was called Richard - the whole band singing a song for me and me alone! If I was called Richard, which I'm not. Sigh. My holiday did inspire me to write lots more in my blog, though. Um, I haven't yet, but I'm starting tonight, then keeping aside various hilarious anecdotes to get me through the next few barren months. So if you want to have a look, please visit http://www.joannou.net/biondino and leave me lots of comments, then add it to your favourites. Please? Finally, much love to the delightful Oon, who I was lucky enough to see all too briefly on her recent trip. Ancient ex-Sinister people - take inspiration from her posts and come back yoursrelves, you gnarled buggers! Alright then, Mark xxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From halighhalou at xxx.com Sun Aug 4 11:48:06 2002 From: halighhalou at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 05:48:06 -0500 Subject: Sinister: you spent everything you had, wanted everything to stop that bad. Message-ID: hello sinister. it's funny how the world stops at five in the morning. especially on sundays. i told someone else tonight in a letter about downtown at five a.m. the streets were all wet with rain and the air, i'm afraid to report, is no less thick than it was at 5 p.m. yesterday. i drove slowly, looking out the car windows, wishing that quitting smoking weren't such a chore for me. and tonight i am wearing this bracelet made of cheap white "gems," the kind that sort of look like craft jewels a forty-year-old single woman would glue onto her sponge-painted kitten sweatshirt. big rectangles with clear jewels of plastic and a sliver backing to make them shiny. you get the picture. and it was shining in the soft haze of the streetlights and early, early dawn, and i smiled a little for the first time all day. i thought that if it were not sunday, and if i were wearing a long, black dress and long, black gloves, i would head down to the donut shop on the corner of 17th and Q and buy a cup of coffee and a sweet. and i would find a window downtown with something in it. clothes or jewelry or music. and i would eat my breakfast there, waiting for the chorus of moon river to chime in, reminding me that this is all just a picture anyway. it isn't real. but it is real. it really is happening. i am ok. i'll be ok. the doctors just have to figure out what's wrong. and then i have to remember what it's like to be happy, and how to go about feeling that way again. *** people have said nice things to me lately. thank you for that. and if i owe any of you emails (sara, i KNOW i owe you some, along with that damn parcel that keeps slipping away from me), i promise i shall try to stay out of hospitals and things this week and write to you fine people. love, lou xo. ------------------ THE FOLLOWING IS AN ADVERT FOR EXCELLENCE: never learned how to ride a bike? merely flailed helplessy in a chlorine-laced pool when trying to learn to swim? come to Camp Kids Who Gave Up 2002, sponsored by lindsey baker, dave snyder and conor oberst to learn to ride and swim like nobody's business! while you're temporarily residing on our beautiful, secluded island paradise camp, enjoy lessons from friendly guest instructors such as mandee wright and listen to a different live band every night (we feature saddle creek gems and omaha rapists)! dating lindsey is also an available option, so long as conor is off-island. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Sun Aug 4 12:17:54 2002 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 12:17:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: animals come banging their drums. or something. B&S Video link. Message-ID: You can watch B&S in glorious (almost) technicolour from Benicassim here: I presume that it's a TV station's highlights package. http://casiopea.emisiondigital.com/...stian/video.asf It's fairly good quality in terms of image though I do have ADSL which probably helps, the sound is perfect. It's about 30 mins long. Stu M claims he is looking forward to Paul Weller, they play one of the Peel Acres tunes, Roy Walker and The Boy With the Arab Strap. And a jolly time was had by all. It looks like it was a balmy evening too, Stu is in all white. Prada I would imagine with a pair of gucci shoes. Though he forgets the lyrics to LLPJ and Stevie has to help out. *TSK*. But then Monica Queen comes on so I think that the *TSK* can be ignored. " girls get up on stage too. Huge apologies if they are on Sinister but they kind of look like Daphne and Celeste. If they aren't on Sinister- they look very much like Daphne and Celeste and appear to be dancing in the same style as the aforementioned P*o*P duo. In other stuff..err I had a B&S dream last night. Isobel told me that B&S had never had a good song and that Falling From Grace was better than anything they had done "for years" though she didn't like the piano bits (and she even did a piano motion with her hands. genius.) in it as Stu did them. The above dream was fuelled by vodka, monopoly and going to bed at 7am after going spectacularly bankrupt in said game. Peel acres stuff- at first i didn;t like Love on the March. Then I realised that the lyrics were really good and that 'animals come banging their drums' wasn't a line that Frank Zappa rejected 28 years ago but about the Orange Order. I went shopping yesterday and all I had on my MD player were the peel acres tracks and they were still great 4 hours after I had left home. John Peel's voice wasn't so great. p. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Sun Aug 4 12:27:33 2002 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 12:27:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A B&S Video link that works. Message-ID: All apologies: http://casiopea.emisiondigital.com/especiales/fib02/bellesebastian/video.asf _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sun Aug 4 12:34:43 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 04:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: what do you wear fishnet tights with anyway? Message-ID: <20020804113443.20902.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> ugh yeah so there was a picnic in edinburgh last week. I thought about telling you about it last week, but I couldn't be arsed. Basically, a bunch of folk showed up, we went to the pub, then we went to get dinner then we went to a bar then some of us went to a club. Um ok. Thats a little too vague. Started at 2:30 ish. EYE-SPIED: fraiseboy, sunnyset, zoziepop, pigtails, gordon, Richard Submarine, me, Keith, Belle, and sweetie. Started off in Princes St Gardens, twas a fine day to sit there. Then went off to a pub. I could tell you then name but you don't care, not really, do you. Then sunnyset and zozie left. So then we went and got dinner at Bella Pasta. 7 people dinners cost �20.20 in all, which was bargainous. All becuase they gave us some pizzas whose (is it whose? pff. Why didn't I ever get taught English Grammar at school. I dunno.) bases were (belong to us) all wonky and resembled the surface of the moon, possibly, I'm guessing, judging on photos I've seen of the moon. Or it was rustic, if you prefer. Anyway, the pizzas were screwed up so we got them for free, and they tasted fine to me. We went to a bar for a few drinks, a few people left, and the remainder of us went out to the egg and jiggled and wiggled all over the shop. then me and Richard crashed at my pals house, and I got back Sunday afternoon. So it was a petty long picnic for me. And last night I went out with fraiseboy and pigtails. there was all these pretty punk chicks there. Them. With their fishnets, and slim calves, and cheekbones made from glaciers, and blue eyes, and bed head straight hair, and ripped tshirts, no bras, red kitten heel shoes, and black ankle boots and fingerless lace gloves, and lashings and lashings of black eye make up and blood red lipstick. See, i'd look like a prostitute if I tried that. I guess though, in the light, they didn't look so hott. It was more in the club that they looked good. hmm. Might buy some fishnet tihgts though. But its getting something else to wear with them. I'll have to think about this carefully. ok i'm off love idles ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Sun Aug 4 14:12:48 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 14:12:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: moz In-Reply-To: <000701c2380e$bcf89320$5c8701d5@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Well... Just listened to the Peel Acres tracks. My favourite was "Happy Birthday". Catchy tune, great words. They should copyright that one while they have the chance. Desperation Made A Fool Out Of Me. That was the best one I think. Love On The March was excellent lyrically. Sleep On A Sunbeam was good too. I'm going to have a think about the others. I'm also struggling with mp3s and CD burners and the like in a bid to play these at the next How Does It Feel To Be Loved? Oh, now you mention it. Aug 22nd, a Thursday again, Buffalo Bars, Underneath The Famous Cock Tavern, Outside Highbury & Islington tube, 9pm-2am, £3 in. I'll attempt to get a cheap beer sorted for the night. If people are interested. There is now a pinball table at the Buff Bars, which is very exciting news I think. It's stuck in the corner where it'll only bother the truly devoted. I was addicted to pinball in my younger years. Indiana Jones was my favourite. Guest DJ this time is David Callahan who was in The Wolfhounds. Remember them? They were fantastic. Also! I've just added an interview I did with Kevin Cummins about Morrissey to the site, so if you want an insight into the Mind Of The Moz (soon to be a major motion picture, directed by Tim Burton, starring Johnny Depp as SPM, etc, etc), then take a look. The site is at http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk See you on the 22nd! Ian x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Sun Aug 4 15:18:50 2002 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 10:18:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: the cries of a sinister (or perhaps not so sinister) gal Message-ID: <1FF9CFEF.6E49ACAD.0B7F097A@aol.com> Hi Sinister. Because I am in a writer's rut and can't rhyme my verse (Or rather, my lines. I'm afraid now we've gone back in reverse.) I have chosen this faithful day to greet you lot. I must warn you, though, that this post has no plot, So if you wish to read something exciting and worthwhile, You should just ignore this, or grit your teeth and read with a smile. I have loads to tell if only someone would listen- Or understand. But most of my stories lack frison. That's my favorite word nowadays, by the way, Because it doesn't or does happen everyday. It all depends on perspective, I guess. It usually doesn't occur when I'm in a mess or under stress. Which I often am, and for no good reason. It sometimes depends on the season. Earlier this summer, I came home to my parents and Pete and Shelley (Pete and Shelley are my hamsters, and they are sometimes smelly.) Because I was upset I overdosed, and that landed me Straight in the hospital. It was dumb of me, I agree. It had been thought of too much to not materliaze, though- I walked out of my room all grinning and aglow, Maybe even seeming happy to the untrained eye. A few days later, I had another episode, and my mother asked me why My emotions were so out of control. I don't know. It's not a road I can patrol. The funniest bit is that my mom took away the drugs from my shrink. Not wanting me dependent or addicted, I think. Not that they helped much anyway, because I was still sad. (Sad is an understatement. I was quite psychotic and mad.) I won't go into the details of my fits because It always creates an awkward pause. Maybe this will, too, without that aid. I'm sure someone will think this childish and cliched. And because I have 24 inch thighs When I really should have a waist that size, I still have nightmares. I still wake up and scream. They tell me it all has to do with self-esteem. I'm sure it does, because the measurement tape tell me otherwise. My thighs expand by inches when they are reflected in my eyes. It's funny, though, because I am so arrogant, so vain. Maybe it's made up in my head. Maybe it's all feigned. Anything's possible. (Except loving myself in this 128 pound body. That's impossible.) I'm sure it's all just an excuse. Because I'm so confused, my body is abused. All 68 inches of my height must be toned and tight, And then maybe, just maybe I'll be alright. (Yeah, right, like that'll ever happen.) I feel like my entire self is misshapen. So now I've just found a slower way to self-destruction Falling prey to the world's seduction- Telling me that I should look like this and act like that: "Get rid of the fat and stop acting like soda that's gone flat." Oh, this is so cliched. This is the masturbation of my pride. (Thanks, Matt, for giving me that. I use it at times when I am tried.) I'm not always like this, though, I am giddy sometimes. Would you believe this was all brought on by rhymes? Because I was running short on inspiration? And even as I write this, I am covered by perspiration. I have to exercise hours to burn off that apple I ate. It's my dream to have a miraculously fast metabolic rate. The Essay on the Personal tells me love is all that matters. I don't think it's fair for a someone to love a person in shatters. I should end this now, because it's time for me to sleep. Maybe tonight I won't dream and weep. I appreciate if you've read this. Writing this gave me a momentary bliss. xoxo h p.s. if i've managed to write this well enough, then i should apologize for being depressing. yeah. i do that. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com Sun Aug 4 17:28:30 2002 From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew Churchman) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 09:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: leaving sinister Message-ID: <20020804162830.11433.qmail@web12302.mail.yahoo.com> hi, I've been on this list since I was a sophmore in highschool and now I' beginning my sophmore year at college. Sinister used to be a great way to hear about actual B&S content. There'd be rumours about shows back when they weren't the jetsetting stars they are now, people would talk about neat little things like stuart zipping his cardigan on "great expectations" or the sound of the lit cigarette on "chickfactor",etc. All this has changed though in the past year. Whenever I open these digest I'm bombarded with storys, rants, poems, that aren't even remotely related to B+S. Sinister seems more like a place now for people just to talk about there personal lives. I wasn't going to write anything to the list before unscribing but I just wanted some of the new listees to know that this list wasn't always this boring. So that's it. At least one of my posts on sinister got quoted on pitchfork. -- andrew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From billrogers_1 at xxx.com Mon Aug 5 00:47:47 2002 From: billrogers_1 at xxx.com (Nathan Reader) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 16:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: The ultimate B & S devotion quiz!! Message-ID: <20020804234747.68560.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> Hello there fellow Sinisterians. My name is Nathan and I am from Australia. This is my very first entry to the list, and I just hope to God(music) that I haven't broken one or more of the many rules there are for this website. Here goes anyway. For this entry I have written a little poem(one that doesn't rhyme) to test your B&S knowledge. Here's how it works: Each stanza(phrase) contains at least two or three words from a B&S song. I have not picked very hard songs so all of the songs should be familiar. It may be advisable to print this out and ponder over it in your spare time, or maybe when you should be doing other things such as h/w. So, there are ten stanzas and therefore ten songs that each stanza corresponds to. Have a go at guessing which songs lyrics are in each stanza. ENJOY! START OF POEM -------------------------------- Read this poem and listen to your crazy laugh. I am just trying to do something pretty while I can. If there's one thing that I learnt it's to write a post to sinister. I've got a hand over the window as I write this. Someone else could be writing this, how about a boy that's just like me. I should be worrying about the wider issues of the day. You probably think someone else is helping me write this. You would be right, it's my imaginary friend. I hope you like this poem. If you don't, please don't hit me. If you did I would be getting hit by people I don't know. I've written a poem like this already, same one as the year before. You can jump and swear about the answers but I wont see you. ----------------------------------- END OF POEM Well, there you have it. Have fun unravelling this kanundrum. Of course, if anybody would like me to verify their answers or would like me to send them the correct list in the right order just e-mail me privatly and I would be more than happy to oblige, if I don't lose the answers. Until next time, bye bye. Nathan Rupert. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coinmaster63 at xxx.com Mon Aug 5 15:48:20 2002 From: coinmaster63 at xxx.com (Reggie Whitecastle) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 07:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Love is like lightning, it won't strike twice in the same place Message-ID: <20020805144820.32610.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com> Hello fellow Belle and Sebastian fans! It's been a super long time since I've posted--mostly due to the fact that I let my sister borrow my laptop for some BBQ invitations she was going to make on PrintShop, and then her youngest daughter dropped it in their garden pond! Oh dear, I can say that algae-infested water is not very good for a computer's motherboard. That baby was gone after that. Luckily, I had some coins to sell that I was not particularly fond of and now I have a new computer. Many apologies and thank yous to those of you who sent me private email after my last post. I guess I was at quite a low point after spending the Fourth alone and then finding out Denise is married. A lot has happened since then, let me tell you! That is not to say that things are getting any better. Thankfully, I have B&S to listen to whenever things are looking not-so-good. One of my lizards, Commando, died a few days ago. I've had him quite a while; I actually think everytime I wake up that he'll finally be dead. And he finally went. R.I.P. little guy! I hope you're looking for crickets up in heaven! Also, a few days ago, I went to Gunther Tooties for a late-night meal. Denise didn't seem to be working, for which I was thankful. I haven't seen her since I found out she was married, and her husband is in prison for a few years (I don't know what for--I have images of him hunting me down with various and sundry medieval torture devices! Eeep!). So, I ate, and right as I was leaving I heard her voice. She was in her regular clothes, not her uniform. I was surprised to see she is quite a classily-dressed woman. I expected her to be a jeans-and-teeshirt type of gal, but she was wearing a dress and nice shoes. As I left, she was leaving too, and she smiled and asked me what I'd been up to and where I'd been. I told her I'd been away on business. Wow, what a bad thing to say to someone when you're actually unemployed. She asked me for more details and I mumbled and hoped she'd change the subject. And then--she grabbed my arm! And told me she'd missed me. And grinned at me! And wow, did my heart ever start beating like crazy. I got in my car, and I smiled for the first time in a really long time. It's funny, just when life starts looking really shitty, how things can change. And it's also funny how they can go straight back to being shitty. Toodles! Reggie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mary_goodshoes at xxx.com Mon Aug 5 16:12:01 2002 From: mary_goodshoes at xxx.com (Miss Marianna Longmire) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 16:12:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: When Banana Man hosts a soiree, does he call it a Bananarama? Message-ID: Oi Sinister! Outside! Now let's rhumble! Aside from the toxic fume outbreak at work and spending four hours in casualty, what has really been getting my mountain goat this week is the fact you all hate me. I know, I know, you all /pretend/ to enjoy my company at soirees and the like, but I'm simply forced to deduce that this is a conspiratorial façade, given that no one has sent me a crush vote. I dunno, you spend time relaying extraordinary adventures, witty conversations and intriguing observations and no one bothers to even TRY and get into your pants.* Pah. So just for that, you're getting an awfully random, babbling post from me. Revenge, mua ha ha. Take that! And, err, party. Sinister fun fact #82. Ken Chu is smutastic. Even in his sleep. Speaking of bad posts, Andrew Churchman posted about leaving Sinister. "I just wanted some of the new listees to know that this list wasn't always this boring." Indeed, there has been a lot of talk about the decline of Sinister recently. Dudes, if you think the list is boring, then erm, CONTRIBUTE and try and raise the standards.Or just fuck off quietly and read ILE. Warning, cliche: The list is what you make it. And as for discussing the intricacies of the songs, well it's been done. We've moved on. We may be a "legion of bedroom saddo devotees", but our obsessions aren't limited and fuck it, Belle and Sebastian can't be on our record players all the live long time. I WANT people to think, rant, tell stories and confess their sins. This, for me, is what makes Sinister so great. Of course, the occasional bitch-fest about Isobel or communal swooning over Stevie should always be encouraged. However, because I'm occasionally lovely and want to appease those who insist on each post containing at least some content, bite your teeth on this: B+S are playing with Ms Dynamite in Burnley, UK. Can you say, random but brilliant line-up? Sinister fun fact #83. Vanilla David tells the BEST animal sex stories, ever. He's also the only person I've heard convincingly argue the merits of Adelaide. During one of many drunken strolls through the streets of London at 1 in the morning, the young James Franco confessed he used to believe Madonna was in the original line up of Bananarama. "It made sense at the time", he claimed. I like this mix up. A lot. Firstly, because it very loosely foreshadows a Bis lyric by about 10 years, and secondly, because it's kind of like lyric mishearings, but relating to band members instead. And it reminded me of the time I thought Skeletor was simply a drag queen extra in the "Wannabe" film clip. Incidentally, for a good two years I swore the line in Bananarama's Love in the First Degree was "guilty as a cocoa bean" and was an obscure homage to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. How exactly it was an homage I'm not entirely sure, but I stood by my mishearing and my random justification. Even after my brother told me to stop being silly and put me in the stocks at Elizabethan World. Miss Marianarama Longmire P.S. Reggie Whitecastle's back. Whoot! *And it seems this post isn't going to do much to persuade you otherwise, now is it? Sigh. I give up. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Hewitt at xxx.uk Mon Aug 5 17:04:55 2002 From: S.Hewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 17:04:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: terribly short, yet reasonably important Message-ID: Marianna Dearest said: > However, because I'm occasionally lovely [but yr always lovely - Ed] and > want to appease those who > insist on each post containing at least some content, bite your teeth on > this: B+S are playing with Ms Dynamite in Burnley, UK. Can you say, > random > but brilliant line-up? > > um, no they're not, i saw this advertised at the respect festival in victoria park t'other week, so i emailled katrina, and she says they're not, which is good enough for me ;) which is a shame, cos they could get ms dynamite to do the monica queen bits in LLPJ... proper post soon, honest xoxo CarsmileSteve PS i saw KEN bowl FIVE strikes in a row yesterday, he's my hero... **************************************************************************** For the latest City Lit news & information, please visit our website www.citylit.ac.uk **************************************************************************** The City Literary Institute Registered Office: 16 Stukeley Street, London WC2B 5LJ Registered in England no: 2471686 Registered Charity no: 803007 *************************************************** PRIVACY AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. *************************************************** This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zorba at xxx.uk Mon Aug 5 22:59:02 2002 From: zorba at xxx.uk (zorba at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 21:59:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: b&s at respect festy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200208052159.g75Lx2801043@mail.redbricks.org.uk> the respect festival is now at platt fields in manchester - the burnley council have stopped the festival on h&s grounds. they say there isn't enough police. strangely enough, the police have said its fine. the ANL (anti-nazi league, the organisers of the festival) are in discussion over sueing the council, as it would appear that they have prevented it on political grounds, and they are not allowed to do that. i saw one of the organisers of the festival today, and i think she would be very surprised to hear that b&s are not doing it, as i'm pretty sure that she thinks they are doing it. i was with chris's brother today too and he didn't mention that his brother wasn't doing it either.... so i'm expecting them to do it. i know a few people who will feel very let down if they don't antony (usually a lurker, in manchester) "Hewitt, Stephen" said: > > Marianna Dearest said: > > B+S are playing with Ms Dynamite in Burnley, UK. Can you say, > > random > > but brilliant line-up? > > > > > um, no they're not, i saw this advertised at the respect festival in > victoria park t'other week, so i emailled katrina, and she says they're not, > which is good enough for me ;) > > proper post soon, honest > > xoxo > CarsmileSteve > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From municipalpool at xxx.com Tue Aug 6 03:04:17 2002 From: municipalpool at xxx.com (patrick doyle) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 02:04:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the Loneliness of a part-time Taxi Controller Message-ID: Hello hello, I'm sure given the time I could think of a hundred more boring jobs than mine, but for now, tis pretty dull job to be in, in a complete five hour shift on Sunday morning - I received only two phone calls (one of which was a drunken bloke wandering if we'd 'found his dog') therefore leaving me to sit through five sodding hours of vernon kay on t4 � one day I'll remember to tune in the other channels on our crappy wee telly... I used to take videos to work, but they always got broken/stolen - one of the two, and after one of the drivers giving the Smiths a vicious verbal bashing, I�ve stopped taking in CDs too. I've been there for four years now...and you have to ask yourself - is it really worth it for �1.66 an hour? sorry for this short and pretty pointless post...I'll think of something interesting to say one day Patrick x _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From helentheaker at xxx.com Tue Aug 6 12:40:33 2002 From: helentheaker at xxx.com (helen theaker) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:40:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: New member Message-ID: Hello everybody I've just joined the mailing list, well I've just become 'active', anyway. I have a question having received a few of your emails over the last couple of weeks. Does anyone actually reply to any emails? It doesn't seem that there's much conversation going on, more a collection of soliloquies...is this true? And another question, can anyone post some more information on this Burnley thing, ie how much does it cost, where is it, when is it, how likely is it that B+S will be playing? Cheers Helen _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 12813249 at xxx.za Tue Aug 6 13:50:22 2002 From: 12813249 at xxx.za (JohaN HUGO) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:50:22 +200 Subject: Sinister: may i? Message-ID: well, hello again everybody and a howdydoody too, to you tout (tous?) so, for those of you who remember - and those of you who don't (yes, some people are that lucky) - i'm back, after a long e-mailless stint overseas. well, not quite so bad, but i had to leave, and i've been there and back again, and now more so, thanks to honey's kindly indulgence: what a bunch of spoilt children we are!) what did i do? well, the details would take a lifetime to recount - or would feel so for the listeners/readers etc. so, suffice it to say - i was in nijmegen for 6 months, indulged in a little studying and a lot of ... erm... social activity, met my first real- life iin-the-flesh sinistrian (thanks to honey for the nod of approval: actually i preferred "tweet" myself, but for some unimaginable reason, it didn't seem to catch on - i guess i just wasn't made for these times!), the wonderful marc bots - to whom everyone should be increasingly nice given the slightest opportunity - and his soon- paparazzi-will-follow-them-everywhere band holgersson, almost but not quite made it to the legendary york coven courtesy of the her- loveliness-can-barely-be-guessed-at miss gina, SAW THE BAND LIVE! :), spent approximately half my country's gdp on merchandising etc. and generally had a lovely time. reassured of the physical existence (give or take an cartesian evil demon or two) of the lovely list-phantasms, i took to hanging out quite a bit on the website when i had the chance, on which circumstance the regrettable existence of the following most- lamentable ode should be squarely blamed. (oh well, it occupied an entire otherwise boring train-journey). so, without much further ado, i would like to pose the following question: may i? (with apologies to almost everyone i can think of) homesick for a punny post from chu (OR a funny post from Llew OR a bunny post from you - mix to taste!) i am tired of listening in i am waiting for a sign. may i open up my world to you? i don't mind the site of you kept me company till i joined again you are the ones who've made it through i am the one who's come to you 'cause i saw you on the internet 'cause i saw you as the people with the bridges to my heart... honey was the start of something big (s)he was there at the beginning (s)he was there to sign us up may i join back up now i am here please lend my your ears keep me company now i've joined again i'll keep trying to make do you'll be the ones who's privy to 'cause i'll share with you the celebrations you'll feel like you're inside i know i've been away but i still love you anyway (solo sex) (er.. hmm, yes, okay) homesick, i came back to you myself for a while i put you on the shelf i am incapable of staying the fool wondering, so what's different today which boys and girls have stayed (strayed?) you were concerned with matters lofty the hard kids always made you sick your archive's looking like the bible with its verses often twee often scheming of the picnics that are bound to - who knows? - take place on a sunny day you know it'll be that way. may i open up again to you? and read the things you do keep me company till we meet (again) may i pour my words into your ear pretend that far was near keep me company till we meet (again) till we meet (again) la-la-la-la-la etc. THE (merciful) END well, if you survived that, you'll get through most things in life! that's about it for now. it's so nice to be back, and i can't wait to get to know all the people who joined since i was here last. on the topic of which, am i still right in thinking that i'm the only south african here? i hope not! oh well, such is life... lots of love JohaN ps. i am proud to say that through my persistent missionary efforts, no less thatn 2 people that i met in europe, and who hadn't heard of the band before, have since bought tbwtas! yay - soon we will rule the world! pps. also there, i finally discovered - and fell in love with - the gentle waves. does everyone (anyone) else here also think that it's better than any of isobel's stuff with b&s? i do, and i think "falling from grace" is just about the most perfect popsong i've ever heard. which doesn't mean i'm not sad she's left b&s, but if it means the waves doing more stuff, then yippee! ppps. i also finally read nalda said - in dutch translation! - and it was so sad and beautiful and it had foxes in it! well, sort of almost a fox. still. more love to mr. david. pppps. if only i was witty, this would start to resemble a chu-post! don't worry, this was the last one! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mr_zarabowski at xxx.uk Tue Aug 6 14:12:02 2002 From: mr_zarabowski at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?stout=20robin?=) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:12:02 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: New member In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020806131202.44634.qmail@web21505.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everyone, and especially, hello Helen: > I > have a question having received a few of your emails > over the last couple of > weeks. Does anyone actually reply to any emails? It > doesn't seem that > there's much conversation going on, more a > collection of soliloquies...is > this true? Ah, Helen, you know conversations used to be all the rage in this neck of the woods, and now it's just a few boss eyed hairy old fools shouting their madness into the darkness and dribbling down their beards. Well, perhaps that's just me, but it's certainly true that there used to be a few actual converations here, and you'd see emails called Re: Wogan vs DLT or Re: RE: Re: Roger Daltrey's Legs. The archives are full of good posts from way back when, when the list used to be carved on wood and delived by donkeys every morning. Have a look there. It's all electric these days, too. I have to say that I'm just as responsible as anyone for talking a whole bunch of nonsense that no-one cares about. But I do agree that we should have a few more conversations so I'm going to try my best. > And another question, can anyone post some more > information on this Burnley > thing, ie how much does it cost, where is it, when > is it, how likely is it > that B+S will be playing? Everything I've heard says they aren't playing, like Mr Carsmile said. They were asked, but they couldn't do it. I'm sure Burnley's a very nice place, though, if you want to go anyway. Robin x __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From helentheaker at xxx.com Tue Aug 6 14:31:40 2002 From: helentheaker at xxx.com (helen theaker) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 13:31:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Good radio programs? Message-ID: Hello, and thanks for the warm welcome. A point of discussion... I've recently been listening to Evening Session and John Peel alot more, and I'm pretty sure there are more radio programs out there that play some more interesting music than the standard R1 playlist. Has anyone come across anything they'd like to tell me about? I discovered yesterday that I could get 6music on the internet and was listening to it at work most of yesterday. It's pretty good, just loads of songs that you wouldn't normally expect to hear. It's a shame that it's a digital station. Another point of discussion, does anyone know if you can get normal radio stations on a digital radio? I know nothing about digital radio. Cheers Helen _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Tue Aug 6 15:01:44 2002 From: lulou at xxx.org (lulou) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 15:01:44 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Good radio programs? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Helen Welcome to sinister! One I really like is KCRW Morning Becomes Eclectic. http://www.kcrw.com/show/mb I don't think B&S have been on it, but there are loads of good programmes - Rosie Thomas, Stars, Luna - online. I heard that lots of online radion stations in the US may close as they can't afford to pay for the music, now that the Recording Artists thing is cracking down on "illegal" broadcasts. On another tack, I was watching a programme on Orlando, by Virginia Woolf, recently, and they showed the film clip where Orlando likens his/her lover to a "pineapple, a fox in the snow." Any of you literary people know if this is the first conscious grouping of those words, and is that where the song title comes from, and therefore Stuart reads poncy girl's books? It also made me want to reread Orlando, and see the film, and listen to Fox in the Snow. conversations...hmm - they do take *time*, don't they? You have to listen as well as speak. I do silently enjoy many of the posts on sinister, but perhaps I don't respond often as I am scared I may have misinterpreted what someone has said, and then everyone else on the list will think I am a luser. So, I resolve to be less scared. Linda x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Tue Aug 6 19:59:56 2002 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 14:59:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The Anniversary Post! Message-ID: <6B95100C.5BBA0706.0274188F@aol.com> To Where This Goes; Well, hello darlings. This post is going to celebrate the anniversary of several events. Let's just get right down to it, shall we? Firstly, this is the four-month anniversary of me not posting. Woo! Can you believe it's been four months since I've posted? It seems a lot of us have disappeared into the woodworking. Kirsten Kenyon? Mega shout-outz. Ally Cook? Poof! Pinefox? Come back and make us laugh. We need to entertain those people who want to hear about when Stuart Murdoch lit a cigarette or when Stevie Jackson rustled around in his V-neck sweater, or.. yeah, stuff like that. We're needed. So, yes, three months (or thereabouts) ago I met some of you. I made a damn fool of myself at the Chicago B&S show--mostly because a few of us had spent approximately 6 hours in some dive bar for the majority of the evening. But, anyway. Yeah. Hi people I met. I am going to meet some more of you coming up here. How does this keep happening? We must stop running into each other like this. It's been about a week since Richard John Gillanders posted. It's been twenty years that I've been my younger sister's older sister. I've spent twenty-two years with myself. Sometimes it's amazing to think that I've stuck with myself through the ups and downs. It's been almost three years since I joined sinister. On August 17th I will have been employed at my current employer for exactly 4 years! Now this is the part of the post where we talk about weblogs instead of anniversaries. Mark Casarotto, what's with this shameless self promotion? You are trying to beef up your site statistics, you cad. However, the lot of you who got duped into visiting Mark's weblog may have noticed my weblog is linked on his page. So maybe you got duped into looking at mine, too. Does anyone know anything about this band Death By Chocolate that are being played to death on college radio? I thought it was kind of funny because right after I had took note of their name, I read on Salon that someone in Pennsylvania actually DID have a death by chocolate--drowned in a vat of it, to be precise! This is the second year anniversary of me having a style mullet. CIAO! Mandee May P.S. Now that Ken Chu has inquired about B&S's treasure hunt clues about 1,924 times, maybe they'll finally reveal them? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shiplore at xxx.com Tue Aug 6 20:41:31 2002 From: shiplore at xxx.com (Jeff Burke) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:41:31 -0400 Subject: Sinister: made up dreams Message-ID: This reminded me of a Built to spill lyric... >I've spent twenty-two years with myself. Sometimes it's amazing to think >that I've stuck with myself through the ups and downs. > Hard to believe /that after all this time/ after all this time/ I'm still me. jb shippy. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Tue Aug 6 21:15:33 2002 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:15:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Re: Good radio programs? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020806201533.10660.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com> Hmm.. Since realising some time ago that SM:TV was a pile of shite without Ant & Dec, I started getting my Saturday morning entertainment from the radio. The new trendy Radio 2 in fact. Jonathan Ross has about the best show on daytime BBC radio at the moment - probably the only show where you can hear the Flaming Lips, the Pixies, the Sex Pistols and at least two David Bowie tracks in the space of an hour. The chatty bits aren't bad, either - shame about the irritating 'banter' from his producer though. Stout said: "boss eyed hairy old fools shouting their madness into the darkness and dribbling down their beards." He's met me, y'know. Have fun everyone going to the Brighton picnic. I won't be there due to some inconsiderate wedding scheduling on the part of some friends. Although fans of seaside picnics should watch this space for further announcements *pause for effect*... S'all a bit confusing over this Burnley business ain't it? Safe bet it's not happening since A: the B&S site has nothing written about it and B: Katrina said so (via Carsmile). Whither Neil though? Usually when the unfounded rumours start flying, Mr. Robertson can be relied upon to eloquently set our gossiping indie asses straight. Is he too busy these days hanging Rough Trade execs out of 5th floor windows to settle small print 'issues'? Rock on? Robster __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david_moore at xxx.uk Tue Aug 6 22:24:08 2002 From: david_moore at xxx.uk (David Moore) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 22:24:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: Good radio programs? Message-ID: <000501c23d8f$a089d380$94353c3e@oemcomputer> Hi All, Young Master Brennan wrote: "S'all a bit confusing over this Burnley business ain't it? Safe bet it's not happening since A: the B&S site has nothing written about it and B: Katrina said so (via Carsmile). Whither Neil though? Usually when the unfounded rumours start flying, Mr. Robertson can be relied upon to eloquently set our gossiping indie asses straight. Is he too busy these days hanging Rough Trade execs out of 5th floor windows to settle small print 'issues'?" Mr Robertson hangs out ... at The Bowlie Board*, and some while ago there he categorically stated that B&S weren't playing the ANL bash in Burnley. Apparently they were asked, but couldn't do it. *Where people have, like, conversations & stuff. I owe lots of people tapes & MD's & things like that. Sorry. They will all get sent, er, soon. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Wed Aug 7 00:33:35 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 00:33:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: made up dreams In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm reminded of a lyric by The Stingrays (ask your grandad). "20 years of nothing and what have I learned/I've learned nothing" * Not that I'm saying that the correspondents below have learned nothing in their lives. It was merely the idea of looking at yourself after 20 or so years and taking stock. In a lyrical stylee. Anyway, the Stingrays were ace and their album 'Cryptic And Coffee Time" is a particular favourite. It was on the same label as the early Valentines stuff. "Behind The Beyond" is the song I like best. I really am very old, aren't I? 33 years of indie pop and what have I learned... > From: "Jeff Burke" > Reply-To: "Jeff Burke" > Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:41:31 -0400 > To: sinister at missprint.org > Subject: Sinister: made up dreams > > > This reminded me of a Built to spill lyric... > > >> I've spent twenty-two years with myself. Sometimes it's amazing to think >> that I've stuck with myself through the ups and downs. >> > > Hard to believe /that after all this time/ after all this time/ I'm still > me. > > jb shippy. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From theres_too_much_love at xxx.com Wed Aug 7 01:31:13 2002 From: theres_too_much_love at xxx.com (michael grant) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 00:31:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: made up dreams Message-ID: ian watson said: "I'm reminded of a lyric by The Stingrays (ask your grandad). "20 years of nothing and what have I learned/I've learned nothing" * Not that I'm saying that the correspondents below have learned nothing in their lives. It was merely the idea of looking at yourself after 20 or so years and taking stock" which reminds me of lyrics from the new idlewild album. "When days never change and it^�s three years later It^�s like your life, hasn^�t changed and it^�s three years late How does it feel to be three years late and watching your youth drift away?" from the Top Ten Smash 'you held the world in your arms'. but anyway, i won't just come on here and throw lyrics at you. i have more interesting things to say. and it may even take me up to fifteen minutes to do so. :o) helen theaker asked a question, "I've recently been listening to Evening Session and John Peel a lot more, and I'm pretty sure there are more radio programs out there that play some more interesting music than the standard R1 playlist. Has anyone come across anything they'd like to tell me about?" well, vic galloway does a show on radio scotland on a monday night called Air, which is very good. eclectic as hell. in a good way. and as i know a lot of you do not live within these borders of mine, then you can go here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/musicscotland/air and there's lots of little buttons saying 'listen again' and so on. 6music is also very good. and if you go here, http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music you can find lots of good shows to listen to. i have started to go on #sinister quite frequently. it's a good laugh, y'know. also, it keeps me indoors, which is good. that way i can't spend any more of my fast-dwindling cash reserves. another way i'm currently keeping myself entertained is by reading lord of the rings. very good it is too. although i am only 54 pages in. i should probably report back on how good it is when i've read a bit more. i went to the football on saturday. partick thistle against dundee united. it was a nil-nil draw, but still quite entertaining. the sinister thistle massive consisted of me, lucy, gav, starfire dave and my (soon-to-be-)flatmate, andy. gav even bought carmats from the club shop. that's dedication. sinister has now (vicariously) seen two football matches in the past week or so, what with the LA Sinister Picnic Massive having gone to see the 'soccer'. anybody else want to report back on football games? no real reason behind this, i just think it would be fun. right, i'm off to waste the night away on #sinister. dangerous_mike.xx ps - if anyone is going to see snow patrol in edinburgh tomorrow night, let me know. give me a call if you like (07811 100 415), especially if you're going from glasgow. we could get the bus together and have a mobile picnic. :o) >From: Ian Watson >Reply-To: Ian Watson >To: >Subject: Re: Sinister: made up dreams >Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 00:33:35 +0100 > > >I'm reminded of a lyric by The Stingrays (ask your grandad). > >"20 years of nothing and what have I learned/I've learned nothing" > > > > >* Not that I'm saying that the correspondents below have learned nothing in >their lives. It was merely the idea of looking at yourself after 20 or so >years and taking stock. In a lyrical stylee. Anyway, the Stingrays were ace >and their album 'Cryptic And Coffee Time" is a particular favourite. It was >on the same label as the early Valentines stuff. "Behind The Beyond" is the >song I like best. I really am very old, aren't I? > >33 years of indie pop and what have I learned... > > > > > > From: "Jeff Burke" > > Reply-To: "Jeff Burke" > > Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:41:31 -0400 > > To: sinister at missprint.org > > Subject: Sinister: made up dreams > > > > > > This reminded me of a Built to spill lyric... > > > > > >> I've spent twenty-two years with myself. Sometimes it's amazing to >think > >> that I've stuck with myself through the ups and downs. > >> > > > > Hard to believe /that after all this time/ after all this time/ I'm >still > > me. > > > > jb shippy. > > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From halighhalou at xxx.com Wed Aug 7 06:32:11 2002 From: halighhalou at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 00:32:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: mandee, mandee, mandee i can't let you go. Message-ID: hello sinister. this reminded me of a good life lyric: "I've spent twenty-two years with myself. Sometimes it's amazing to think that I've stuck with myself through the ups and downs." (mandee) "twenty-two...the years can hardly catch up with the years of playing catch up. must there always be a catch?" (tim kasher) IS MANDEE WRIGHT THE NEW LYRICAL GODDESS?! of course she is. love, lou xo. ------------------ THE FOLLOWING IS AN ADVERT FOR EXCELLENCE: never learned how to ride a bike? merely flailed helplessy in a chlorine-laced pool when trying to learn to swim? come to Camp Kids Who Gave Up 2002, sponsored by lindsey baker, dave snyder and conor oberst to learn to ride and swim like nobody's business! while you're temporarily residing on our beautiful, secluded island paradise camp, enjoy lessons from friendly guest instructors such as mandee wright and listen to a different live band every night (we feature saddle creek gems and omaha rapists)! dating lindsey is also an available option, so long as conor is off-island. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Wed Aug 7 09:26:26 2002 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:26:26 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: Sinister: london paris new york brighton Message-ID: URGENT SOUTH COAST MESSAGE!!! There will NOT be a Brighton Sinister picnic on Saturday - booooooo. BUT there will be a Primrose Hill picnic instead - hurraaaaah! And Strange Fruit is on that night - hurraaah! AND there will be some sort of hungover sea air cure thing in Brighton on Sunday - hurraaaah! I think the Boy Greg is going to post with more details about London, so I won't take up any more of your valuable potential conversation time :) Besides, I have to get back to my exciting career protecting Japanese girls from the amorous attentions of hot-blooded Mexicans. It's a cultural smorgasbord here at Sussex Uni don't you know. See you Saturday/Sunday/sometime/never?! Love to all especially my #sinister GURRRLS (Mandee is coming HERE soon you know! Yes, the actual United Kingdom!!!!) Archel xxx PS. Gotta love those #sinister BOYZ too of course :) xxxxx ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. Email submissions to buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Wed Aug 7 09:46:50 2002 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 09:46:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: FAQ this shit Message-ID: There was this one episode of the Simpsons once, in which there was a scene when a baby Bart Simpson was running around the room, banging on a saucepan and singing a song that went "I AM SO GREAT, I AM SO GREAT, I AM SO GREAT, I AM SO GREAT", and it was possibly one of the best songs that was ever written. There was this one post from the Sinister list once, in which there was this guy who had sent this post, which got quoted on Pitchfork. IT WAS SO GREAT, and it was possibly one of the best posts that was ever written. It was back in the days when Sinister was like, good, too, when this list was all about information on B&S and their gigs, for example the discussion of the band's PROG ROCK influences by Pink Floyd, and nothing else. But unfortunately, the other day I read this really really good website the other day... http://www.missprint.org/sinister/faq.html If only we have all actually had a quick read of Preface A and B, we'd have realised that we've been doing it all wrong. Preface B is my favourite of all, it's possibly one of the best section that was ever written. Go on, have a read of it now, like NOW. A girl called "Titiana" is now my best friend, she keeps sending me links to her favourite websites, and she has good taste! I clicked on one of those links once and it was about this poor girl who couldn't afford any clothes, and was very miserable until one day, she met her true love which was this boy who also couldn't afford any clothes, and had a very big willy. FAQs and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: My favourite voice overlays of B&S songs is the bit in Photo Jenny, when some dude goes "I DUNNOOOO" in a scottish(?) accent when Sturan sings "How can I get one I don't know". Actually no it's Isobel reading Rip Van Winkle during "I Could Be Dreaming". I want a girl with an accent for my band dammit... I wonder if Titiana has an accent..... P.S.2.: That video thing of B&S in Benicassim looks reaaally good except it seems that I'd need a supercomputer in order to watch it without it breaking down every 5 seconds :-( +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From al717 at xxx.edu Wed Aug 7 12:25:30 2002 From: al717 at xxx.edu (Adam Leier) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 13:25:30 +0200 Subject: Sinister: the replacement Message-ID: <491cb2496864.496864491cb2@homemail.nyu.edu> Does anyone know what Stuart and Co. are going to do about the songs that feature Isobel on main vocals? I am specifically thinking of the Model and a couple of others. Are they going to hire a permanent replacement Cellist/vocalist? I think a lot of charm would be lost with out the balance of the raspy female vocals on a lot of the tracks. Anyways. Any clues? thanks. Adam (AOLIM=BlurryBoy13) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From edna_welthorpe at xxx.uk Wed Aug 7 13:35:29 2002 From: edna_welthorpe at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Stevie=20Trousers?=) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:35:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Birthday Letters Message-ID: <20020807123529.64106.qmail@web12007.mail.yahoo.com> Dear Sinister It's a while since I've been in touch so, writing now, I feel like a shady relative -- some funny uncle -- slipping an over-generous note into your card: hush money excusing another year of neglect. But happy birthday! How you've grown! I like to think, in my own sweet way, that I've kept in touch. I don't remember my own fifth birthday much; I imagine it was flushed with all the surprise, horror and creeping boredom of starting school. Isn't that what being five means? You can't stay in the nursery forever. "How you've grown?" Well, that's a pretty limp birthday wish. When you get to my age, you grow cagy of marking time, but let's not be shy: five years of sinister is something to celebrate. At the very least, it's an excuse for a party, where, tired and emotional, we might let slip all the sly sentiment we usually keep under wraps, the 'you're-my-besht-mate', the 'you-and-me-against-the-world'... Five years of idle gossip, primrose paths, plans hatched, crushed hearts, all-night phonecalls, freaky dancing, oceans crossed and celebrity stalking. Indulge me a little here. I remember when you bounced into the world. Fully-formed from the brow of a Princess? Well, it was messier than that, but let the myths have their charm. When you think of that inkling in the brain of Honey Mitchell some mundane afternoon in 1997, and how it would affect people, well, you realise how much magic was still left in the dog days of the twentieth century. And how you can stumble, almost by accident, across a skeleton key to the twenty-first, a key that unlocked a world-wide world of shared sillyness, secrets, energies and enthusiasm. Two anecdotes, five years apart: Autumn 1997, sent on errand by a plea to the list (find an out-of-print edition of the script to 'Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner') I fetched up in London's grand, shambolic Foyles bookshopI bump into someone who had got there before me. A complete stranger sent scurrying through the stone streets of the city by words whispered across continents and networks. Well it seems daft now -- now we're tri-band and peer-to-peer, livejournalists and instantmessengers -- but at the time it was rich and strange, this stealthy escape of private joke into the wider world, like Oedipa Maas in The Crying of Lot 49, stumbling across the Tristero: a "secret richness and concealed density of dream". Or you might think of that cliché-parable of global interdependence, the butterfly wings that could stir a storm. What was happening? Where would it end? Five year later -- last week -- I'm sitting on the balcony outside my house (which I share, funnily enough, with an Australian and a Devonian, who I first met on #sinister chat, one mundane afternoon in 1998) at 5am, chatting with D., still trying to work it out. D.'s been on his own sinister adventures, following his heart across hemispheres, from the arse of Australia to the capital of the twentieth century. The morning is broken, and we're still sobering from all last night's fun, and we're exhilirated by the accidents of technology and rumour -- the music of chance -- that have brought us to this moment. "Someone should make a film," one of us says, "go round the world with a digicam, recording these constellations of feeling, the stray sinister kids in Rio and Reykjavic, Aberdeen and Adelaide, all knitted together by..." ...Well, by pop music. Can it be as deftly daft as that? The soppy, sappy secrets we unearth from bits of vinyl, or whatever CDs are made from? Maybe right now someone on a Shed Seven list is wondering the same thing. But I like to imagine, fondly, that there's something unique about all this, and that it's the mystery, the mark and the hidden treasure of the best pop music that it persuades so many people, with nothing much else in common, that they constitute a community, provokes new devotees, reinspires lapsed believers and compels them to invest and invent so much of themselves. Certain People I Know reckon the community is more interesting than the actual music -- that it formed, supplying everything the music leaves out (the fun, the noise, the sex), like a pearl around a speck of grit. But I wouldn't know about that... But I do know that the adventure only continues as long as we stay interested -- like a cartoon character who stays aloft above the canyon as long as he doesn't look down. And so, if I have a birthday wish at all, maybe that it's that the band themselves are seduced by the challenge of leaving their own nursery -- the comfort and charm of their Jeepster cottage industry -- and that moving on means they're forced to find their own path between wonder and creeping boredom, between growing up and growing old... * * * * A birthday is also a time to dig out embarrassing old snapshots. One of the lovely, silly inventions of Stuart David, before he went electronic, was the ink polaroid. While I'm in the mood, here's five of mine: 1) I have a notably bad haircut in this one, so it must be 1998 - the first sinister picnic. I'm laughing heartily. Behind me you can see a member of Salako climbing a lamppost to disentangle a child's kite. Behind him you can just spot Susannah approaching with a croquet mallet and a smirk of concentrated mischief. 2) This one's a bit difficult to make out because it was taken at 4am. It's of a bunch of Irish kids lying on dewdamp grass in Southwark Park next to my old house, singing songs they know by heart as dawnwithrosyfingers rises above the Rotherhithe tunnel. 3) And this one is a bit blurry, tipsy with sentiment. It's 1999, in the basement of a Covent Garden café. You can't see them in the picture, but behind me the Lucksmiths are singing about bookshops, laundromats and that kind of distance that makes the heart grow. Instead, the picture is of the audience - too many new friends to single out, the kind of circle you'd given up hope of ever finding around you. 4) And this one is from the Spring of this year. Someone else took this of me, staring out across the lake in Chicago. The sky is blue, and the air is so clear you could imagine I can see all the way to a future that I could live in. 5) I've got one picture left, but it's not developed yet. I'm saving it for August 25th, when we're going to be celebrating Five Years of Sinister with a picnic at 3pm on top of Primrose Hill in London. Come along! Or better still, organise your own, wherever you are. And take your own picture, ink or otherwise... and Report Back. Many happy returns Stevie Trousers x x x x x __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rdillon at xxx.net Wed Aug 7 11:18:41 2002 From: rdillon at xxx.net (Ron Dillon) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 03:18:41 -0700 Subject: Sinister: My first potentially postable post (let's see if I blow it again) Message-ID: Hello, all. SO.... What's new, hm? I've been listening to B y S for just about a year now and seem to really dig them. Loads of diversity, lots of neat sounds, and lyrics actually worth listening to.... It seems, though, that after a few songs I start humming a Nick Drake song or, occasionally, this one particular Neil Young, but I can't remember what that one's called. I'm damned old and I've been a true lover of music for as long as I remember and a true lover of just about any kind of music, and I guess I'm trying to get to this here question, but not well. I see lots of references to 'twee' on other sites that focus on Belle and Sebastian. What the h3ll is 'twee?' Is it a good thing? Is it nicer with butter? Perhaps some of you could illuminate me, hm? And about those pictures on your website - what a swell bunch of attractive, sweet people, all! Aw, hell, it's 3:15 in the morning! Where has the time gone? Like I said, this is my first 'proper' post and I'm looking forward to hearing from you folks. Take care, Ronnie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Wed Aug 7 13:48:42 2002 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:48:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ANL Carnival Message-ID: <02d701c23e10$c4029e60$ab84fc3e@neil> Nope. I belive Doves and The Shining are doing it. Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aorta47 at xxx.com Wed Aug 7 19:12:03 2002 From: aorta47 at xxx.com (mmm skyscraper) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the replacement In-Reply-To: <491cb2496864.496864491cb2@homemail.nyu.edu> Message-ID: <20020807181203.60058.qmail@web11802.mail.yahoo.com> --- Adam Leier wrote: > Does anyone know what Stuart and Co. are going to do > about the songs that feature Isobel on main vocals? Maybe they'll hire someone new and redo all the albums, which would complete their 4 album deal with Rough Trade. I guess they could change the album title's a bit like 'Tigerjuice', 'If You're Not Feeling Sinister', 'The Boy Without the Arab Strap', 'Fold Your Hands Adult, You Run Like the Owner Of a Fortune 500 Company' or something similar. Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adevens at xxx.edu Wed Aug 7 15:07:50 2002 From: adevens at xxx.edu (adevens at xxx.edu) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 15:07:50 US/Eastern Subject: Sinister: i don't know what else to do Message-ID: <200208071907.g77J7oF29301@college.antioch-college.edu> we had a halloween party here on campus last night and since my friend was throwing it he asked me to be one of the dj's, which i did. i put on a costume, put my glasses, and all my cd's, and my headphones into a backpack and went to the party and dj'd. after i was done i put the backpack with the dj stuff, asked the next dj to look after it and danced. sometime after that someone stole my backpack. from the middle of a party. with tons of people around. when i first found out i was so mad i couldn't see straight. then i was just really really sad. it's still possible that someone just picked it up by accident, but i sort of doubt it. today's community day here at my school, we are supposed to spend the day having fun and we have no classes. i'm not really in the mood for having fun. and, as much as i will miss my 200 cd's, i just really want to be able to see right now. *sigh* arik +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Wed Aug 7 20:06:19 2002 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Caitlin Pigtails) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 20:06:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Shape Of The World Message-ID: <20020807200619.A26192@candle.btinternet.com> Hello, sinister Mr Trousers reminded me that it's that birthday time of year. Yes, my posts are reactionary. I wanted to tell you something, because of a few other posts that have been aroudn recently. But I need to go away for a while and find the words to say it with. Places and people change a lot in five years. Just after Sinister started, it was a very different place. The people who posted were part of a tight little community, it seemed. I didn't post. I just read what the people said, like someone sitting on the edge of a pub-crowd, smiling at all the jokes but never talking. I still remember a few of the posts from those days. People meeting in bookshops to find a copy of The Loneliness Of The Blah Blah Thingy. People walking through Edinburgh in winter - hey, places i knew myself - and seeing foxes in the snow. People planning their first picnics. People complained that B&S's total recorded output didn't fill a C90. I didn't know anything much about music then. Now, of course, I still don't - apart from useless trivia like the real name of The Singing Nun - but I know that there is so much more that I don't know. Knowing more about the level of your own ignorance is refreshing. I have Sinister to thank for nearly all of the bands that I love. If I'd never found Sinister, I still would have changed. I'd have changed in different ways, though. I don't think I'd be the person I am. I don't think I'd let myself be the person I am as much as I do. I would still be trying to make myself be someone different. People on Sinister don't debate tiny sounds in the background of records any more. Did they ever? There were debates such as: "Which was recorded first, Elvis or Fakers?" and "The Yellow Album: Twins or Mirrors?" but that wasn't the point of the thing. The point was, we were all thinking in the same general direction. The band was important to us, because they touched us all. The band touched us all, because we all had something in common. If Sinister wasn't there, then we'd still be like that. We'd just never have come together in quite the same way. A couple of years ago, Carey Lander wrote a post wondering what would happen to us when we get old. Will there be a Sinister nursing home, in which we'll all sit mumbling to each other? It's a beautiful thought. Has Sinister changed? Of course. Will it keep changing? Of course. Will people still write wonderful, inspiring things vaguely connected to music they love, and send it to a few thousand people around the world? I hope so. love, caitlin -- http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/ Sinister Recipe Tree archives (not that there are many yet) http://www.joannou.net/topofthestair/sinifood/ Sinister Questionnaire Results http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/txt/siniq.html "When life gives us lemons, we just sit there and sulk about it, in the corner of the room, in a fetal position." - Matthew Henderson, on the Sinister mailing list. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Aug 7 21:55:36 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I am so content when there is content. Message-ID: <20020807205536.85396.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> Andrew Churchman wrote: "I've been on this list since I was a sophmore in highschool and now I' beginning my sophmore year at college. Sinister seems more like a place now for people just to talk about there personal lives. ...people would talk about neat little things like stuart zipping his cardigan on "great expectations" or the sound of the lit cigarette on "chickfactor",etc. ... I just wanted some of the new listees to know that this list wasn't always this boring. Whenever I open these digest I'm bombarded with ... rants ... that aren't even remotely related to B+S." And now I know exactly what he means. anyway moving swiftly on: Ken said " My favourite voice overlays of B&S songs is the bit in Photo Jenny, when some dude goes "I DUNNOOOO" in a scottish(?) accent when Sturan sings "How can I get one I don't know". Actually no it's Isobel reading Rip Van Winkle during "I Could Be Dreaming"." Nah. I'd have to go with you on the first one there actually. And I think the some dude was their forner bass player, wasn't it? Am I the only one who appreciates Spaceboy dream, by the way? Such a darn funky soulful tune. Mark (Mr Ex-idleboyfiend, who I'm still on reasonably good talking terms with) said Neil played bass on that one. True? Not true? true? not true? slightly true? did Neil maybe just re-string the bass guitar? did he say "more bass! i want it louder goddammit!!" (or swear words to that effect)? or did he play? or what? ANSWERS! i forgot the FAQ, til Ken pointed it out. Was interested to read some of thethings you get kicked for: use it as a forum to promote their ego people who want to show off abuse others And don't grumble Shit, that looks like most of us. Especially ME in the first ONE. me I tell ya. MEEEEE! or hadn't you noticed? Number two is belle and sebastian. Bunch of show offs. all this "ooh! look at us! we're playing on the radio! ooh look at me! I'm on telly! oh look at us! we have a new record label!" blah blah blah. What-eva. Number three, is Neil,**** *** ** **** *** **** *** *** with a massive *** ******* *** * **** and a bit of a *** on his ****** **** ****, **** at that. number four: guess who. right, Actually, I like it better when people are writing about me. RACHEL FRUITLOOP, WHERE ARE YOU? write something about me please. i love it when you do. You say the best things about me. oh and your boyfriend is cute. Love idles xxxxxx ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gpallis at xxx.uk Thu Aug 8 00:46:21 2002 From: Gpallis at xxx.uk (The Boy G) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 00:46:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I Can Only Give Chu Everything (Features plausibly exciting picnic details) Message-ID: <005901c23e6c$af90fce0$671a86d4@oemcomputer> THE RIDDLE: 100 prisoners in solitary cells. There's a central living room with one light bulb; the bulb is initially off. No prisoner can see the light bulb from his or her own cell. Everyday, the warden picks a prisoner at random, and that prisoner goes to the central living room. While there, the prisoner can toggle the bulb if he or she wishes. Also, the prisoner has the option of asserting the claim that all 100 prisoners have been to the living room. If this assertion is false (that is, some prisoners still haven't been to the living room), all 100 prisoners will be shot for their stupidity. However, if it is indeed true, all prisoners are set free. Thus, the assertion should only be made if the prisoner is 100% certain of its validity. The prisoners are allowed to get together one night, to discuss a plan. What plan should they agree on, so that eventually, someone will make a correct assertion? This is a gorgeous riddle. THE SUN-COMPREHENDING LASS: I caught self-consciousness from Erica MacArthur, you know. Andrew Churchman would approve. THE NERVE.COM PERSONAL AD: Goes like this - "Because I'll be the private-school eye-candy that you think you want. Because I'll tell you pretty lies, and refuse to slow-dance. Later on, we'll have realised that it was never going to work, but the letters we'll send will embarass your future boyfriends." No-one replies. THE QUOTE: "Yeah. Yeah, that. It's quite saucy! Superb..." - Ken Chu, asleep on Marianna's sofa. THE BIG IDEA: August 10th - Official Boy G leaving picnic. 2pm, Primrose Hill or Spread Eagle if raining. Bring presents, the answer to the riddle, or just bring yourselves, yo. Strange Fruit will follow, the beginning of everything else. August 11th - All new Archel-confirmed rearranged Brighton shebang! It's a one-day festival of piers, poets and pebble beaches. You really ought to go. August 13th - G flees from shame of humiliating picnic behaviour, gets on plane. Arrives Charlotte, meets the Llew, collapses and dies at tragically young age having acheived all remaining ambitions. THE BLOG: Will not be linked here. I have my pride. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From matt at xxx.uk Thu Aug 8 03:31:54 2002 From: matt at xxx.uk (Matt) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 03:31:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tigermilk_goes_for_=A3166?= References: <200208071907.g77J7oF29301@college.antioch-college.edu> Message-ID: <001a01c23e83$c3cdd680$ef43893e@Juliet> Some lucky person has forked out only £166 for B&S's original Tigermilk on the Electric Honey Label on ebay tonight. I bet they're in a good mood. Matt +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Thu Aug 8 10:07:15 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 10:07:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk goes for =?ISO-8859-1?B?ow==?=166 In-Reply-To: <001a01c23e83$c3cdd680$ef43893e@Juliet> Message-ID: I'm lucky enough to have one of the original Tigermilks (a present from friends in 1997!) and a record buyer once told me that he'd take it off my hands for £600. I still have it of course. I also still live in rented accommodation and don't have a proper job. Anyone out there interested in being my financial adviser? > From: "Matt" > Reply-To: "Matt" > Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 03:31:54 +0100 > To: > Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk goes for £166 > > Some lucky person has forked out only £166 for B&S's original Tigermilk on > the Electric Honey Label on ebay tonight. I bet they're in a good mood. > > Matt > > > > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clj106 at xxx.uk Thu Aug 8 11:31:50 2002 From: clj106 at xxx.uk (mummy i've grazed my knee) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:31:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My Favourite Crayon Message-ID: <002901c23ec6$f90e35e0$8a2e86d9@chris> Dear all, It's been a while - a very long while. THE TRAIN ARRIVING ON PLATFORM 1 IS THE 8:15 FROM MANCHESTER, THE TRAIN DEPARTING ON PLATFORM 2 IS THE SAD TRAIN TO THE BOY G's HEART People coming, people going - it's a funny place. Sad to lose the boy G, nice to see there's a picnic to commemorate it, even if I won't be there. Glad to see the delicious return of Mr.Trousers, here's to many more wholesome posts. CREAMY CONTENT So the Peel stuff. John Peel lives a few miles up the road from me don't you know. I could feel Struan in the air, oozing boyish charm, charismatic smiles and succulent melodies. I didn't rate the tunes that much though. The boy Walton has already condemned me to the indie toilet for daring to suggest that a 'change of direction' was not a desirable thing - no doubt everyone else will too - but I buy Belle And Sebastian because I liked Tigermilk, Sinister and the three EP's - I liked the fey, the whimsical, the dreamy tales of schoolboy angst not seen since Emma's House was released. If they released IYFS from now until eternity, I would be happy. That one with the trumpet was OK, and Desperation Made A Fool Of Me went someway to demonstrating a return to form, although I have yet to see how the beginning sounds like Seymour Stein. Sarah's song about sunbeams was very pleasant, although her voice will take time to grow on me, much like that of a departed cellist I would imagine. I didn't care much for the other two though. After months in the darkness, it's nice to see I can come up with some real in depth analysis. ISOBEL ON THE RUN It was mentioned during the Olympics, but anyone watching the 400m hurdles yesterday would have seen Isobel Campbell furthering her athletic career by making it to a European final. She's Scottish as well you know. WE'RE GOING OUT - ON BRIGHTON PIER This weekend, the York Sinister Massive are tootling down to the south coast for a holiday in Brighton. It will be my first holiday in over eight years, so I'm as happy as a child with a potato cake. Archel appears to have something simmering for Sunday, so I'll leave it to someone who knows what they're doing to sort that out. I'm happy just to smile and watch. It would be lovely to see the London kids and Chu crew make it down. Looking forward to seeing you all there. This post was absolute rubbish, but I read appendix A and B. Chris Jones. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk Thu Aug 8 16:13:16 2002 From: MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk (Michael Ashbridge) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:13:16 GMT Subject: Sinister: Riddle me this, Batboy Message-ID: <13ED3DB60C0@Blackstaff.ulst.ac.uk> The Boy G wrote: THE RIDDLE: 100 prisoners in solitary cells. There's a central living room with one light bulb; the bulb is initially off [...] The prisoners are allowed to get together one night, to discuss a plan. What plan should they agree on, so that eventually, someone will make a correct assertion? Can I just thank That Boy G for completely ruining my lunchtime? I read that just before lunch and was musing on it privately. Then the rest of my fellow grad students came over to the lab and I threw it out for general discussion. There's still a pitched battle being fought out there. The engineers are doing themselves proud against the logical cannons of the mathematicians and probability theorists, while the lone humanities student is busily reassessing her own theories of sociocultural stereotyping. I think blood is going to be spilled soon. We've hit on several workable solutions. Too many, in fact. My solution takes at least 299 days, and there are others who think it can be done sooner. The issue now seems to be proving which is optimal. I stand no chance whatsoever of getting any work done for the rest of the day. Bastard. - M. P.S. I wrote several weeks ago regarding my lack of perspective on the Belles and my disbelief that they could ever make a record I wouldn't like. If they ever commit "Love on the Marsh" to CD, that'll be the first. Beautiful lyrics, yes, but MY EARS! MY EARS! argh! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Thu Aug 8 15:47:54 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 15:47:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Riddle me this, Batboy In-Reply-To: <13ED3DB60C0@Blackstaff.ulst.ac.uk> Message-ID: The riddle that's been taxing me recently is this: There have been seven UK number ones whose titles start with "I'm" - what are they? No looking in the Guinness Book of Hit Singles now, y'hear? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Thu Aug 8 16:50:53 2002 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 15:50:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Is that your car on fire or are you just pleased to see me? Message-ID: DISCLAIMER: If you're looking for a sinister post full of wit, charm and fascinating insights to current conversation topics -- one whose levity and mirth will have you rolling in the proverbial aisle while holding your sides as they ache as you laugh and laugh, then you'd be advised to delete this one. This is a dreadfully boring dismal post whose only use might be to cure a case of insomnia or to nurse an illogical fear of catching beri beri. Unless you want to find yourself in the throes of mindless boredom with your nails scratching out your eyes, while making pained noises like the time you tried to learn to play the trumpet for the middle school band, I suggest that you very quickly move to the next button and go find another post to read or another source of amusement, such as making small animals out of pipecleaners and popsicle sticks just as an excuse for you to play with the rubber cement. G GYRATIONS: "August 13th - G flees from shame of humiliating picnic behaviour, gets on plane. Arrives Charlotte, meets the Llew, collapses and dies at tragically young age having achieved all remaining ambitions." At first I was frightened at the aspect of having a dead English boy to come stay with me but then I mused - in Dorothy Parkeresque fashion - will I even be able to tell the difference? One never knows with the British. It's no matter since for his birthday - which he'll have while here - I'm going to make him a red velvet tombstone birthday cake! Oh yes. Personally, I would die for such a treat. I'm trying to encourage other people to come and celebrate with us and so far have promises from people driving down from DC, over from Chapel Hill, and there's one boy who *is* coming up from Georgia even if I have to employ a grappling hook and a truck driver named Earl to help me get him here. The day of excitement will be Sunday August 18th. I think you all should send presents to him here. I promise I won't rifle through them, pick out the ones I like for myself, and leave him with only things like a copy of Fry's "The Liar". I swear! (and not just because that's the effect Fry's style has on me either.) SELMA BLAIR HAS A MULLET AND I DON'T FEEL SO WELL MYSELF: After hearing everyone only say comments to the effect of, "I've seen better film on teeth!", I finally watched Storytelling telling the dirty hippie as we rented it, "From everything I've heard, this is wretched and will suck but I want to see it anyway" so that she had trouble discerning if I was referring to the movie or her music collection. I wasn't aware until recently that the third part of the movie which featured most of the B&S music was completely edited out so I feel somewhat cheated. It's not as if I expected much which is exactly what I received (kind of like the scene where "The State I Am In" is playing, eh?). However, the very last scene changed the entire movie for me and I ended up loving it! I also adore where the title of "Fuck This Shit" came from. Plus, it was nice to see Selma Blair before she went all scary mulleted on the world. What's a pretty girl like her doing with a mullet like that? TAPE TWEE In other Sinister related news, I finally made and received my mix tape for the tape tree. Huge public props to Aruni for setting that up for us. Also, massive love out to Miss Maddie Minx giver of ace hip flasks who might want to avoid ever meeting me as I plan to greet her with a tackle and snogs, Bill "Your posts are OK but they'd be better if they'd mention how sexy and fantastic I am" Harris, Jay Eckerd who is absolutely enchanting, all the suckahs who said they wanted to meet me on the Sinister questionnaire, and Miss Flannery who is currently showing her love for me by biting at my ankles in want of a walk. until supplies last, Laura PS - I don't know what he's smoking but Rouss did send me some Scottish whiskey so at least I know what he's drinking. Of course, he also sent me a small stuffed sheep and mentioned shagging. I hope I'm supposed to draw no conclusions from that. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Thu Aug 8 19:26:20 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 19:26:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: well i reckon Message-ID: <20020808182620.98561.qmail@web14406.mail.yahoo.com> Right. I think If the prisoners all get together to discuss this, then it'll be in the central room. The next guy says 'yup, all the prisoners have been there' and then whispers under his breath "it was last night, why do they think we won't remember..." Then they can all go free, and/or get sent on a NACRO-sponsored resettlement programme in a factory paying shitty wages. They'll soon be on the smack, burglaries will rise to pay for their habits, the Daily Mail will be, as ever, righteously indignant, and they'll be sent back to the slammer for more light bulb related riddling. The guards won't fall for such mad schemes next time mind. Oh, and the Home Secretary may well want a chat with the Governor. And another thing. Who was that guy who also had some righteous indignancy (that's not a word is it?) about peoples lives being less important than the minutae of B&S songs. We all love them but you judge which is most important. People using this list to discuss problems and things they're going through, happy or sad, with some like-minded people, or "if you listen really close to String Bean Jean you can hear a door quietly shutting in the background". Um, that mass rush for the stereo's of a thousand Sinistereenies to listen out tells me the answer to that one. I'll say no more. Love Dean ps I was only joking about SBJ. pps However, if you play 'The State I Am In' backwards, you can hear Isobel releasing the clues to the treasure hunt. In Swahili. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john at xxx.uk Fri Aug 9 01:23:49 2002 From: john at xxx.uk (John Jennings) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 01:23:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Children can no longer be dubbed "little shits". Now they can be diagnosed with impressive acronyms like ADHD. Message-ID: <3D530B95.6070107@ilonline.co.uk> Hello Hello. God i haven't posted for ages. Why do i always start posts saying that? Maybe because i leave so much time in between posts. That would make sense. My subject line gubbins is from the Guardian review for today's television. There was a programme about children behaving badly. I watched a few minutes of it... basically there was this one kid who decided it was necessary to attempt to kill everyone, indeed every*thing* that crossed his path. I immediately dubbed him a little shit and turned over. I went on a wee tour around Scotland a couple of weeks ago... Stirling, Glasgow, the highlands, all the tourist attractions. I was in Glasgow on the day of the 'big floods' and almost drowned. That was fun. I was told by a (scottish) friend before i went that in the Highlands the locals are very proud of being scottish and don't take kindly to being called British. I think maybe she was joking... or maybe the snp voters hid in hedges and behind sheep (ahem) when i walked past. I did notice that british gas is called scottish gas in scotland though (now *that* is progress). Last time I posted I mentioned cleaning up cat vomit. A couple of days later I got a (relatively) nasty email saying that i shouldn't be dirtying the good name of cats on sinister, which is essentially a cat friendly place (i am aware of the exceptions...)... well my cat has just delivered three dead mice onto the carpet. I'm not entirely sure I can keep the good name of cats alive for much longer, people. I read that post about sinister being better back in 'the olden days'... this confused me slightly because as far as I can remember sinister hasn't changed much at all. The belle and sebastian content has declined a little, but then what are we supposed to say? Short of spying on the poor people (and i'm aware some of us do just that) we aren't going to have new and exciting information every time we post. Well i'm not. Ahem. I think the young man in question was just trying to get some attention and for that he deserves our pity and indeed therapy. The little shit. I just ordered four cds on the internet. Thats quite a lot for one time. The bills going to shock me. I've only bought them because all four are albums that certain individuals think, for some reason, that I already own. I'm trying to avoid awkwardness. Besides if people think i own them, they must be good. Possibly. I feel like this post was a little erratic. Its not flowing very well. Maybe i should give up now. JP x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bulkdavid at xxx.com Fri Aug 9 02:50:48 2002 From: bulkdavid at xxx.com (David Hewitt) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 11:20:48 +0930 Subject: Sinister: just wanted to break the drought, really Message-ID: G'day all. John Jennings said: "I went on a wee tour around Scotland a couple of weeks ago... Stirling, Glasgow, the highlands, all the tourist attractions." You wee-ed in all of those places? Blimey. He then said: "I was in Glasgow on the day of the 'big floods' and almost drowned." You poor sod. I had no idea that wee-tourism had become so popular. Then he said something about British and Scottish Gas. I giggled like a schoolgirl, but maybe that's just me. Bulk love, -Vanilla Flavoured David. PS: I was going to apologise for the fact that this post consists entirely of childish smut and single-entendres. Then I decided not to, as the post you would have otherwise gotten would have been one of those "I haven't posted for ages" ones, combined with "what Sinister means to me" and "I had a big trip and met all these people who are great, and now I'm going to list them all" and "here's my heartrending story in full and pointless and overly-personal detail" seasoned with a little "aren't I clever! everyone look at me!". You know, like all my posts used to be. You wouldn't have liked it, and are far better off with what you got, so you should be grateful. I think everyone that would care what I've been up to knows most of it, so I won't bore the other 1500 or so of you with it. PPS: Hug Stevie Trousers the next time you see him. Go on. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Hewitt at xxx.uk Fri Aug 9 11:12:36 2002 From: S.Hewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:12:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: smut? check. references to obscure indie bands? check. ken and l lew? check. being rude about cassarotto? check. time to press send then. Message-ID: ello babies david (no relation, to my knowledge anyway) said: I was going to apologise for the fact that this post consists entirely of childish smut and single-entendres. Then I decided not to. which is the way it should be considering over the past week or so there have been entendres a plenty, for example, jen said: John Wayne Bobbitt was going to box Joey Buttafucco fnarr, snort, than hannahb said: all over my chest and half a soggy biscuit teehee, fnarr etc and the kaiser said: gnarled buggers takes one to know is all i have to say ;) helen asked about radio shows. apparently it's all about radio 3's late junction these days, although i've yet to dip my toe in the water, "becoming as essential as mark and lard's evening show was in the early 90s" says my correspondent (or words to that effect, the message-board-that-shall-not-be-mentioned on which it was posted is currently up the spout). luloululouboobles then said: It also made me want to reread Orlando, and see the film, and listen to Fox in the Snow. which reminded me that KIKI AND HERB ARE IN THE UK!!! they are playing at the soho theatre on dean street (in that london) until the 17th, which implies to me that they might be off to embra for the fringe after that, although i have no confirmation of this. FAAAAAAAAAAACKS IN THE SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOW, FAAAAAAAAAAACKS IN THE SNAAAAAAAAAAOOOW, little matchgirls etcetc... there is http://www.kikiandherb.com if you've no idea what i'm dribbling on aboot. ken said: "I DUNNOOOO" but i think i prefer the little scottish boy shouting "COOOOMMMEE OOORRRNN" at the start of that song, oh you know, erm, for some reason i have now completely forgotten as in my head it's getting mixed up with "run ride the runway" by the boo radleys (this may be due to the fact that i only have four tapes in my bag to listen to on the bus, one is IYFS/TM, one is TWATTYBUS/TIGGERJAMMIES and LLPJ, the third is giant steps and the fourth is my TAPE TREE TAPE which i still haven't sent to John Jennings because i am a bad boy). NB the boos song does have playground type noises at the beginning as well (i think, oh dear, just ignore this bit ;)) adam asked about replacement campbell. well judging by recent gigs, they have a new cellist person (name unknown (to me anyway, i bet DMCUK knows) and sarah is doing most of the vocally bits. he also mistyped "asthmatic hamster" as "raspy female vocals" for some reason... Welthorpe, Edna, Mrs went on a tour de force, and who can blame him. if you trawl around the beepster site for long enough you can find some old ink polaroids hidden away there too... Ronnie asked what tw** was. ah, the blessed innocence of youth ;) ask archel, she'll tell you idles mentioned spaceboy dream which i do like, but which was slightly tarnished for being the music on the trailer for that fat tongued c-word's last cookery series... boy g and migmk and lleweth revived the ancient stylistic touch of THE HEADING, which is always welcome, especially as migmk said: WE'RE GOING OUT - ON BRIGHTON PIER. blimey i thought i was the only YY28s fan left. look they're doing this now: http://www.heavenevents.com/OneHitWonders.htm scary... unfortunately i'll not be able to join in this weekend's festivities as i am off up north for mother's 50th birthday party, anyone got any spare nicotine patches lying around... Ian asked about "I'm..." songs, and having seen the answers I still don't believe that "i'm doing fine now" by the pasadenas got to number one. However, I'magine by john lennon should be on the list... and with that terrible pun it's time for me to do some actual work, come here database, mr baseball bat wants a word with you... xoxo CarsmileSteve PS Oi! Alder! once a week? where are yer?? **************************************************************************** For the latest City Lit news & information, please visit our website www.citylit.ac.uk **************************************************************************** The City Literary Institute Registered Office: 16 Stukeley Street, London WC2B 5LJ Registered in England no: 2471686 Registered Charity no: 803007 *************************************************** PRIVACY AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. *************************************************** This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. The message and any files transmitted with it are intended only for the use of the recipient or organisation to whom it is addressed. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Fri Aug 9 13:48:47 2002 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:48:47 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Today I bought a record that your new boyfriend has never even heard of Message-ID: <20020809124847.20776.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> Oh dear. Carsmile Steve screamed “PS Oi! Alder! once a week? where are yer??” Ahem. I believe I said I was going to keep on posting to Sinister once a week (no more, I wouldn’t want you getting sick of me, right?) So, in the spirit of recent posts, I am going to do a whole host of replying. Mark said “Excitedly, I scrutinised the lamp, and found SEVEN tiny spiders attached to it! A couple of them got a bit frisky, and started abseiling like the cutest little marines, so I moved them into a shady corner to start their spidery lives.” Last year, I found a nest of baby arachnids in the corner of my room. I put an end to their spidery lives by hovering them up. Mwah ha ha! Then, Linda said “On another tack, I was watching a programme on Orlando, by Virginia Woolf, recently, and they showed the film clip where Orlando likens his/her lover to a "pineapple, a fox in the snow." Any of you literary people know if this is the first conscious grouping of those words, and is that where the song title comes from, and therefore Stuart reads poncy girl's books?” The Reference Fox sez: “In her book "Orlando", the eponymous hero(ine) refers to his Russian Princess lover as being "like a fox in the snow" twice... Props go to Mark for spotting this! The Reference Fox enjoyed it especially.” I have a funny feeling ‘Mark’ is our very own Casarotto. For more foxy references, see http://www.fineran.demon.co.uk/basrefs/ Now Adam: “Does anyone know what Stuart and Co. are going to do about the songs that feature Isobel on main vocals?” Sarah seems to have stepped right into Isobel’s shoes for the vocals. She did them very nicely at the last QMU gig and her arse isn’t as big as Bel’s either. They had a guest cellist that night, too – Rosie, I think – but I don’t know anything about her, whether it was a one-night fling or if it’s a long term relationship. Or if she’s snogging any of the band. Stevie T did some nice ink polaroids in hour of Sinister’s buffday, so I thought I’d add one of my own. ***** This is me in an office in West London. It’s my first time in Sinister Chat. If you look very carefully at the computer screen, you’ll see Ladylike has written ‘Honey, when I first joined Sinister, I thought you were a girl’ and honeypie has replied ‘I am’ ***** Juicy Lucy ps. Who’s coming to the Winchester Club tomorrow night? ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ ************************************************** The Winchester Club http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_winchester_club/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From psi_fla at xxx.com Fri Aug 9 16:44:47 2002 From: psi_fla at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Simon=20Fallaha?=) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 16:44:47 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: All-time middle Message-ID: <20020809154447.8815.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> Hello again everybody. Occasionally flicking through your posts (especially Laura's - you mentioned Storytelling, I'll come to it later), still looking for a placement and generally messing about with an odd job in between. How else can I describe my current situation? It's not exactly an all-time high, so the title I'm using for this message gives the second best way of describing it. Still, few won't realise that the title's a lame 007 pun (the Roger Moore season on ITV finished just days ago). Anyway, last month there was Tunisia. It was great while it lasted (one week, that's all it was). The place we stayed, Port El Kantoui (I'll never remember how to spell it) seemed to have been purposely built for tourists! Not that that's a bad thing for us visitors (I encountered many English people there, and even a few Irish) but I wonder how the natives must find it. However, no matter how cynical I am about the tourist aspect, you shouldn't let it detract from the enjoyment of the place. There was plenty of chances to go swimming (either in the Med or the hotel's pool), an arcades room (even though most of them were ancient and me and my brothers preferred to play pool) and even a discotheque (I only went there one night though). There was also the chance to play many sports, but I think what really stood out for me is the activities you could do at the beach. Especially paragliding. The thought of it may scare some of you, but if you get in the right seating position and hold on, you are sitting comfortably while you float up high in the air, and the view is tremendous. Enough about that. Now, my last post before I left suggested how "excited" I was about seeing Storytelling. Well...having seen it now I am very divided over it. Now that I know how Todd Solondz treats the characters in his films I'm not so convinced that I want to see Welcome To The Dollhouse or Happiness, no matter how highly they've been rated. >From what I've been reading about them, Welcome To The Dollhouse makes you glad that you're still an adult, rather than back in high school, and Happiness just seems like American Beauty. But Storytelling...well, what was the point of it? The fiction act made more sense than the non-fiction act, but in my opinion the whole film was virtually directionless. Some of Solondz's characters may live long in the memory, but you don't really want them to. Nearly all the characters in this film are dislikable or warped (with the possible exclusion of Selma Blair's Vi). That little kid in the non-fiction act - now I know most kids in films are brats, but this one is more so than any other one I've seen. I can understand now why you all thought Storytelling "sucked", but are Solondz's films meant to be attractive viewing anyway? A few scenes are disturbing. There's some things in that film which you really don't want to see again, and other things which are just boring. What gets me, though, is that Belle & Sebastian's music seems out of place in a film such as this. I did like the end credits theme (sung by Isobel) but doesn't it seem a little too cheery for the setting? And I was glad when the film ended, even though it's only about 80 minutes. Apart from Storytelling, the only other film I saw recently was Austin Powers 3 - and there's very little to say about that. I avoided Men In Black II on a friend's advice - have any of you seen it? Enough for now. Take care, Psi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From professorpaulo at xxx.uk Fri Aug 9 16:47:04 2002 From: professorpaulo at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Field?=) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 16:47:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: the homeless cheese Message-ID: <20020809154704.22177.qmail@web20605.mail.yahoo.com> I have been reading sinister with interest of late. I admit, similar to most of you out there I am sure, my interest in the list varies based on a number of factors, the chief factor being how much spare time I actually have to devote to reading emails from complete strangers. Having a job in an office again, that is once again rather a lot. One thought that has crept into my head recently is does anybody here consider their relationship to be romantic in any way? That's romantic, not sexual for the smuttees out there. I ask this after Andrew Churchman's post. Had he been ending a romantic relationship it would be decent of him to let his partner know that he no longer wished involvement with him or her. And also to point out the ways in which said person had changed as a reason for his change of heart would also be fair and relevant. But things, by nature, change. With the possible exception of Ken's underwear, Everything. Why should a mailing list be any different? Whether that change is for better or for worse is surely a matter of perspective. Many of the "old guard" will inevitably say for the worse, but this is just the same as a pensioner saying how much better things were during the war. Our rose-tinted spectacles have such intense power when we reminisce. But I refuse to wear mine coz they make me look like a ponce. Sinister is soon to be 5. How many 5 year olds do you know that havent changed since they were born? It would be a pretty scary 5 year old had they not. I wish I had changed since I was 5 though. Proust may well disagree with my ideas of always looking back in a favourable light, but then I am not talking about the perspective of a formula 1 veteran. It's my great sense of humour and remarkable wit you love me for, isn't it? I even look back at what happened on Wednesday with a bit of a smile now. I can laugh about it now but at the time it was terrible. On Wednesday afternoon we had an enormous storm here in London there was a torrential downpour! It's very rare to see rain so heavy in England. Anyway, I left work & went to get the tube, but the district line wasn't running at all because the track was flooded. So, Bugger. I went to get the bus to Earls court, but a lot of people had the same idea and there was no way I was going to be able to get on a bus for ages, so I walked up to another station, and as I was walking the bus I would have got sped past me & through a huge puddle - soaking me from head to toe, and I mean head to toe. I got to the other station, managed to make my way home and everything, though it took me 2.5 hours. When I got home I discovered that because of the bloody builders next door being disgusting, messy bastards, the debris they had left had all been swilled in the rain to the drain at the entrance to my house. So the drain was blooked and there was a knee-hight puddle of filthy water I had to wade through to get inside. I then got changed into old clothes & had to go out and kneel in the filthy water & pull all of this crap out of the drain. Yuk! So yeah, by the time I had done this and let me takeaway food etc. get cold, it was late-ish anyway and I was in too foul a mood. I belive New Yorker's Brian and Matthew went to Cape Cod, which is a strange hobby but props to the diversity of sinister interests. It also brought to mind jen owl as she had a bit of a cape obsession. I think 5th birthday celebrations should involve certain older regular posters coming out of their shells, including...well, I don't know who's still here, but you know who you are. Maybe even Calumn could come up with a competition to mark the event? For those of you who remember French elena, she's just called me - apparently we can't have a picnic tomorrow because it's raining in Paris. Hmm. We bashed the pegg last night. I think. Did we? Or did we just knock him slightly sideways? Also, if its red knicker day soon, is there going to be else to be on the 5th birthday? Red gloves, with a finger for each year? Red leather knickers? The sad news, as far as I am concerned at least, is that I won't be at a sinister event as I have to attend a friends stag night. I think! Therefore I am off. See some of you tomorrow! Bye! Paul xx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Fri Aug 9 19:39:44 2002 From: rfadden at xxx.com (rrrrobyn) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: when the open road is closing in Message-ID: <20020809183944.33121.qmail@web11106.mail.yahoo.com> about all those things you said, i've been thinking. oh god, it's a hazy late-summer morning. i feel a melancholy coming on. nooooooo! stevie t's post made me cry a bit. i can't even embellish on it. thanks, stevie. and ken's faq post made me lafff. and there were also other posts, of course, that made for other emotions. aw, i luf yous guys sooo mush. :) so, as if to help the melancholy go full-blown systemic, i have been packing. and have thrown out: 11 pairs of old shoes (still have 19 pairs left, not to worry), 6 boxes full of old papers and pamphlets and stuff i looked at thinking,"'why the hell would i keep this? is there some kind of sentiment attached to this club flyer? is there a memory associated with this mutual funds pamphlet?" NO! purge, purge, purge. so that's good. but then i look around my little apartment and get sentimental again - this is my first apartment and has been called by friends "a real professional single girl apartment." aw. i think this is only b/c i have a desk area ("professional"). otherwise all the furniture is hand-me-downs and it's not like i don't have band posters up on the walls still (chosen wisely, of course, i.e., beautiful little b&w aislers set poster.) aw. sigh. how long did i spend downloading the 'new' belle and sebastian songs? let's just say i went shopping. but when i came back, there was new b&s waiting for me. and it was jangly, poppy, birthday-y, and good :) hurrah for radio! hurrah for the internet! (i'm really into cheering the latter lately. internet, sometimes i think you are a means to all my ends.) oh, sorry, the melancholy. i have exactly two weeks left in vancouver. ow, that sentence makes my heart palpitate. you know that sense of impending 'something', not necessarily doom, but something that makes you look in your daytimer to check if the days are marked by momentus occasions, only to realize there's nothing momentus written at all? only: 'dinner with soandso', 'suchandsuch concert', 'plane to montreal, 11:30'. i should put exclamation marks and asterisks next to these things. the marks of 'important things'. everything seems both important and trivial right now. bah! to perspective, apparently. but it might not all matter b/c greg's 'gorgeous' riddle is going to be the death of me anyway. but, before i die, i will direct your eyes to some photos of the may 2002 brighton picnic (and a few of vancouver): http://photos.yahoo.com/rfadden . people look cute in them. there are none of me. there are some of the ocean. some of them are blurry; i have no idea why... yours in resurgent happiness, robyn ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jlee18 at xxx.edu Fri Aug 9 20:18:04 2002 From: jlee18 at xxx.edu (jlee18) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:18:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: liverpool? Message-ID: <3D5E41A5@webmail.uiuc.edu> I'm currently waiting for my work permit paperwork to be completed, but if all goes well, I will be living and working in liverpool this fall. I applied to a research position at the university of liverpool and accepted the offer this past week. Anyone have any comments that they'd like to share about liverpool? such as things to do, or places to live. I've never been there. Actually, I've never been to europe! I'm currently in Washington DC (suburban maryland is my hometown, if that can even be considered a town) and was out in central illinois for the past couple of years. Since everyone on this list obviously has a good taste in music, I figured that a good place to start would be to ask here. please feel free to e-mail me at jlee18 at uiuc.edu. -Jason +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Sat Aug 10 20:15:23 2002 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 20:15:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hyphenating leads to bloody murder in provinical town bookshop Message-ID: My loves, Oh, loads of people said loads of stuff and it were dead interesting and thought-provoking and all that. So, good for them. I could have begun with "I haven't posted for ages...." and it would be true, because really I haven't. I've been doing all sorts of important, dull, inconsequential nonsense that isn't really like living, but living makes it necessary - paying bills, visiting parents, doing laundry and cleaning out the kitchen bin (I recall that Love God Casarotto once managed to fashion a post about cleaning out his kitchen bin. He's clearly more talented than I). There's been so many things that I have read and meant to comment on, like Linda's "Fox in the snow"/Virgina Woolf type thing (Oh, and by the way, if you had to sleep with either Virginia Woolf of Sylvia Plath, which one would you pick and why? Answers on an email to the non-list address, please, as we don't want 1600 people knowing that you find Sylvia's rampant outdoorsy American blondness more attractive than Virginia's stay-in-doors, repressed Englishness, do we?), all of Marianna's wonderful posts, Archel's almost-happening picnic, Paul Field's search for a housemate - I can recommend the flat. Very nice, with a roof terrace and a real coffee maker. No Nescafe for this boy - and so many other things. As you can tell by the above paragraph, I am currently very into hyphenating. This is mostly because of the DragonLady at work (those who read my blog know of her, those who don't will never know as, like G, I have my pride and refuse to link) who last week repremanded me for "hyphenating a word in the order book - it makes it very difficult to read, you know". So I killed her with a hardback book and then scattered pieces from the original Star Wars puzzle (1979, only one piece missing) all over her battered and bloody frame. And here's me thinking that bookshopgirlism is all listening to Belle and Sebastian, knitting cardies and pointing people in the direction of the James Joyce paperbacks. I took a small holiday last week with the Loved One, which involved cycling for hours around cabbage fields and going to Skegness, which was so tacky it nearly burnt my retinas. Bless all of you who live in Lincolnshire. It made me yearn for the bright lights big city of Leicester. But I got tanned and healthy, so much so that my mother was speechless on my return. Fear not, I shall return to the pale and pasty look - I'd like to say which year it had last been in fashion, but fear that my look never has, and never will, be all the rage on the Paris catwalks - very soon. So, RED KNICKER day is upon us. Hooray. Red pants currently in the wash, but will arrive in London on the 25th, hopefully with me in them, for dignified drunkeness. Is that a tautology or an oxymoron? I can never remember the difference. Huge props to Asm Walton, who not only burnt the last two Peel sessions onto a CD for me, but seemed to manage it all in one day. Thank you Sam, the gods are now smiling upon you. (Keep Feeling) Fascination Maddie Minx xxxxx _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Sat Aug 10 20:46:56 2002 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:46:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Don't Worry Baby Message-ID: Hello Sinister. Stevie Trouser's post really knocked my socks off. I mean, I know I'm a sucker for nostalgic writing and a nice ink polaroid, but his post really knocked my socks off. As the more keen-eyed may be able to tell, I've started reading Catcher In The Rye again, for about the millionth time, and I can't help but ape (albeit badly) Sallinger's style. But that's not what I came here to say. As the Pet Shop Boys once said, I wouldn't normally do this kind of thing, but please Sinister, I need an outlet. See, at the moment I should be frolicking in Brighton with the rest of the York Sinister Massive, but recent events have put me right out the mood for partying. My surrogate Uncle Philip (ie not really my blood uncle - actually my mum's best friend's husband - but a very close family friend and someone whom I care a lot about) died on Thursday very suddenly, of cancer of the back. Exactly. I didn't even know you could get cancer of the back. A couple of weeks ago he just had a bit of a stiff back, and then before you could say "what a fucking tragedy" he's in intensive care, his immune system's packed up and he's dead. Which is a real shitter, I can tell you. He was a great bloke, always with a witty comment or a great piece of advice, and he was only 58. It's a fucking tragedy of highest order, at least it is through my eyes. I'm not really sure why I'm doing this, telling 1500 people about someone none of them knew and now never will, but I guess it's an outlet of some description. I've developed a bit of an obsession with the Beach Boys of late, and "Don't Worry Baby" seems to comfort me and make me cry in equal measure - a good things at these times. Needless to say, it's been getting pretty heavy rotation at the moment. I'll sorry to moan. I'll feel better in time, of course. People tend to feel better, most of the time, and I can be quite resilient if I try. But at the moment I just feel like I've had my insides replaced with a load of negative space. I think I'll stop now and go and do something that'll make me laugh, or cheer me up at least. I see an Alan Partridge Marathon beckoning... ;-) love Asm.x ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy" - Mary Cohen _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Flad at xxx.com Sun Aug 11 05:08:31 2002 From: Flad at xxx.com (Flad at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 00:08:31 EDT Subject: Sinister: Lovesick on a Sunny Afternoon Message-ID: Last night, In downtown MPLS, Minnesota, I saw a mini-musical based on the songs of Belle and Sebastian. The actors lip-synched the words, which had been worked into this 50 minute play for the "Fringe Festival." The Fringe Festival is a celebration of many theatre groups that get together and put on shows they normally wouldn't perform. It's a big deal here for the artists, and when I heard there was a musical based on the songs of B&S, I had to check it out. As soon as I found out about this mini-musical adventure I wanted to go; I assumed it would either be quite satisfying, or really really blah. So I called up my ex-boyfriend, now (post ME) a huge B&S fan, and persuaded him to come along with me and another one of my friends. We arrived at the theatre around 9:50, ticketless. The show began at Ten, and sold out just as the doors were closing. How grand that so many Minnesotans liked Belle and Sebastian enough to take this theatrical leap of faith! I really had no idea before last night that there were so many fans in the area. There were indie kids a-plenty, and my eyes were working overtime...I even ran into Mark Mallman, my local artist of choice. We exchanged hellos (I know him since he's a regular at the record CD store I work at...) and I mentally questioned why he was there. He had never told me he was a fan, and it is abundantly clear that I am. Once seated, the show began with a dialogue between "Sebastian" and "Sasha," two best friends at a Catholic HS The 50 minute play also incorporated "Jean" who later became "Belle," "Cecile Aubry," "Charlotte Campbell," "The Major," and multiple students at this HS I'm not quite sure what went wrong with it all, or when it turned into an experience where I found myself hoping my $8 entrance fee was going to a good cause...but it had something to do with the plot. I loved the idea that someone adored B&S enough to write a play using the songs and that these same people knew the songs well enough to write lines such as "Belle, we're seeing other people. At least that's what we said we were doing..." One could definitely pick a true fan out of the crowd. We laughed at all the lyrics used in dialogue, and it was not until my "other friend" turned to me and asked "why are you all laughing?" that I realized how truly addicted to B&S we all were...that part of the play was amusing, but it lost me in the storyline. Set in a Catholic HS, Jean was the older rebel child. Sebastian her adoring best friend. Along with Sasha, the three were quite a team. Sasha loved Sebastian: tried to convinced him he was gay. All Sebastian would admit to was loving Jean. Mme Campbell and Mme Aubry, both teachers at the school, are in risk of losing their jobs because the Major has found out about their love affair. And there was also something about a rape in the chalet and Mme Campbell. It was a cheap way of getting a certain song (we can all guess) into the production. Is it odd to anyone else they made everyone gay? Nothing against it, by any means, but they certainly did a fair bunch of alluding to Isobel being gay. In the end, Sebastian falls in love with Sasha, who dies while singing Fox in the Snow. Jean is found out to be the product of Mme Campbell's rape, and her real name is found to be Belle. The teachers blackmail the Major, saving their jobs. Then the show ends with Sebastian and Belle waiting for the bus to take them away from town, to find new lives, as they sing Lazy Line Painter Jane for their finale. And yet, this awkward production managed to get away with having a Major, but not singing Me and The Major. Props to them for getting around it, although I am quite a fan of that number. I guess this was one of those experiences I was glad to be a part of, yet look back on and go "did that just happen?" I fear I may have loved the idea of a B&S musical more than the actual thing (or at least the one I saw), but it proved to be entertaining and the grounds for much discussion on the ride home from the theatre. Salutations, -Kelsey P.S. Hello to everyone I met at the Chicago B&S show in May. I was standing to the right of the stage, about three "rows of people" back from the twins. I met many of you and was persuaded to finally post. So thank you for the push I needed, even if it took me three more months to finally do it. I was the small girl in braids, you guys were the giggly ones yelling at Mick Cook. Although rainy, that was quite a memorable night. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brianraindogs at xxx.com Sun Aug 11 11:32:17 2002 From: brianraindogs at xxx.com (Brian McNeill) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 10:32:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Don't Go Near The Water. . . Message-ID: Well I am starting to feel a little like my old oafish self, after spending the last week chained to the porcelain thanks to those marvellous people at West Scottish Water. Not really a lot that one can do when you're guts are running a marathon on you, so I've been reading a lot and being pretty bored I guess. So if anyone in Glasgow wants to meet up for a damn good moan and several alcoholic bevereages at teh weeknd let me know. Hmmm someone will be thinking 'God He's Tarting On The List again. . ' to that i say 'nyer nyer nyer nyer nah' and go 'mwah'! she knows who she is and its luverly to ave her back. . . salutations brian _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From billrogers_1 at xxx.com Mon Aug 12 06:49:34 2002 From: billrogers_1 at xxx.com (Nathan Reader) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 22:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: What's more important? My great dilemma. Message-ID: <20020812054934.92299.qmail@web14706.mail.yahoo.com> Hey there all. Now I have been deliberating for a few weeks whether or not to write this post, but obviously the greater good got hold of me (or boredom). Please feel free to not read this as I am warning you now that it has to do with love and all that stuff. As it does in most cases, love, or attractions are only important to those immediately concerned (and all their friends of course), so this concerns me greatly. I am a male, and I feel natural feelings of admiration, respect etc. towards females. This is the question I propose to you all. Is friendship (nothing more) or lustship and dating more important? Of couse I by no means intend by the (nothing more) that what we have is insignificant. What we have (Me and..say, Mrs. X) is fun. Movies, walks in the park, tickle fights etc.. I do really like her, and have for a long time. If you are still with me, consider these options I have: 1. Do and say nothing, and enjoy what we have now. 2. Say something along the lines of "I love you", and expect a desired response. 3.Ditto (as above) but expect no desired response. Keep in mind that I only have about three months of school (and therefore everyday contact) left. And another thing, I currently have a girlfriend (who I do also like: I should make a choice shouldn't I?) Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. And the Rupert music tip: I have been listening to Sublime Acoustic alot lately (and TRYING to learn some songs on the guitar) and loving it. Get into it. Toodles. Nathan R.R-W "The die is God" - Lucius Rhinehart. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Mon Aug 12 13:54:06 2002 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:54:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: She only likes me when she gets drunk. And it would be just my lu ck; lately she's been thinking of giving up drinking. Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC641B05@pikachu.ntu.ac.uk> In the spirit of the old-timers crawling out of the woodwork, shaking their head, muttering "I remember when it was all trees round here" and crawling off back to their hovels, I reckon it's about time I got round to writing something. Hey, I've been busy you know. Spending the last week coaching / looking after / getting annoyed with 40 kids at a korfball summer camp. So I'm now knackered, and still probably a bit hungover from Friday night's final party. There's nothing like setting kids a good example. And getting blottoed, singing Bohemian Rhapsody at full blast and dressing up in each other's clothes is nothing like setting kids a good example. After seeing me in a tight girl's top some of them will be scarred for life. I'll leave you for a moment to savour that mental picture. . . . . . I think that's quite enough of that, don't you? As has been pointed out, we're now nearing five years old. That's mental age, obviously. A quick look back at the first page of the archives reveals that the old days were just as full of irrelevant five line posts, and just as lacking in content as now. It also leaves me wondering what happened to the two people on that page who I desperately wanted to meet, for not entirely un-carnal reasons. Oh well. Other early highlights include a certain Mr Miller being smutty (so no surprises there then), whilst commenting that we would have to have more B&S content and less random stuff now that there were a massive 174 people on the list - http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199708/msg00166.html Most of the content consisted of whether Tigermilk would ever be re-released (Yes!), whether the Sessions at West 54th would ever be broadcast (No!), whether Loneliness of a Middle-Distance Runner would ever be released (Yes!), and whether B&S would ever get off their arses and do a few more gigs (Yes!). So you see, all the questions have now been answered. If only the band would stop doing so many interviews and let us get back to random gossiping about them instead, it would be much more fun. I'm another one who thinks, great as the music is, B&S fans are more interesting. Let's face it, every time there's a gig, it's the audience that gets reviewed not the band (particularly in the NME). So many people here have spent the last five years getting new friends / new other halves / random snogs, which has got to be a good thing. Not me, obviously, I'm far too well behaved for that kind of thing. Speaking of which, the list has been seriously lacking in smut recently. This may or may not be connected to the recent lack of Miller, Casarotto and Playforth. Of course, if anyone fancies creating some smut, I'm single yet again, after what promised to be requited love turned out not to be after all. All offers considered. Unless they come from Ken. Big Stu PS Due to a recent computer failure, if anyone has mp3s of either the Steve Lamacq session version of Sleep The Clock Around from '97, or the Legal Men / I Am The Resurrection finale from Manchester at Easter, I'd love to hear from you... PPS If you still can't hear the words 'Broccoli' or 'Cannelloni' without thinking of the list and smiling, you've been here too long. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Mon Aug 12 14:33:09 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (ianwatsonuk at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:33:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: She only likes me when she gets drunk. And it would be just my lu ck; lately she's been thinking of giving up drinking. Message-ID: <1192606.1029159189317.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Stuart mentioning the West 54th sessions reminded me that I wanted to ask about them. Was that recording ever screened? Does anyone have a copy? I happened to be in town at the time and went along to see it recorded, so I'd like to get a copy, if only to see my own stupid face on American television. I went to a recording of the Jools Hootanany (New Year's Eve celebrations, for those in Paraguay - and yes I'm sure I've spelt the H word incorrectly), and it was very bizarre to be at a party at a friend's house on New Year and to see myself "live" on telly at the same time. At least I had a beer in my hand in both realities. The new Low album is excellent by the way. Thank you. x > from: "Gardiner, Stuart" > date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:54:06 > to: sinister at missprint.org > subject: Re: Sinister: She only likes me when she gets drunk. And it would be just my lu ck; lately she's been thinking of giving up drinking. > > In the spirit of the old-timers crawling out of the woodwork, shaking their > head, muttering "I remember when it was all trees round here" and crawling > off back to their hovels, I reckon it's about time I got round to writing > something. > > Hey, I've been busy you know. Spending the last week coaching / looking > after / getting annoyed with 40 kids at a korfball summer camp. So I'm now > knackered, and still probably a bit hungover from Friday night's final > party. There's nothing like setting kids a good example. And getting > blottoed, singing Bohemian Rhapsody at full blast and dressing up in each > other's clothes is nothing like setting kids a good example. After seeing me > in a tight girl's top some of them will be scarred for life. > > I'll leave you for a moment to savour that mental picture. > . > . > . > . > . > I think that's quite enough of that, don't you? > > > As has been pointed out, we're now nearing five years old. That's mental > age, obviously. A quick look back at the first page of the archives reveals > that the old days were just as full of irrelevant five line posts, and just > as lacking in content as now. It also leaves me wondering what happened to > the two people on that page who I desperately wanted to meet, for not > entirely un-carnal reasons. Oh well. > > Other early highlights include a certain Mr Miller being smutty (so no > surprises there then), whilst commenting that we would have to have more B&S > content and less random stuff now that there were a massive 174 people on > the list - http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199708/msg00166.html > > Most of the content consisted of whether Tigermilk would ever be re-released > (Yes!), whether the Sessions at West 54th would ever be broadcast (No!), > whether Loneliness of a Middle-Distance Runner would ever be released > (Yes!), and whether B&S would ever get off their arses and do a few more > gigs (Yes!). So you see, all the questions have now been answered. If only > the band would stop doing so many interviews and let us get back to random > gossiping about them instead, it would be much more fun. > > I'm another one who thinks, great as the music is, B&S fans are more > interesting. Let's face it, every time there's a gig, it's the audience that > gets reviewed not the band (particularly in the NME). So many people here > have spent the last five years getting new friends / new other halves / > random snogs, which has got to be a good thing. Not me, obviously, I'm far > too well behaved for that kind of thing. > > Speaking of which, the list has been seriously lacking in smut recently. > This may or may not be connected to the recent lack of Miller, Casarotto and > Playforth. Of course, if anyone fancies creating some smut, I'm single yet > again, after what promised to be requited love turned out not to be after > all. All offers considered. Unless they come from Ken. > > > Big Stu > > > PS Due to a recent computer failure, if anyone has mp3s of either the Steve > Lamacq session version of Sleep The Clock Around from '97, or the Legal Men > / I Am The Resurrection finale from Manchester at Easter, I'd love to hear > from you... > > PPS If you still can't hear the words 'Broccoli' or 'Cannelloni' without > thinking of the list and smiling, you've been here too long. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list --- > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > - "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper - > - "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" - > - "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 - > - "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 - > - "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 - > - Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa - > - Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! - > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk Mon Aug 12 17:02:28 2002 From: MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk (Michael Ashbridge) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 16:02:28 GMT Subject: Sinister: It's like chicken soup for the stomach (RADIO-fest) Message-ID: <19FAA846FEA@Blackstaff.ulst.ac.uk> Miss Theaker was asking about good (or new, at least) radio programmes. In my haste to fawn all over BBC Radio 3's Late Junction yet again, I almost didn't see that Mr Hewitt got there before me. Here it is on our interweb: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/world/latejunction.shtml (Verity Sharp = Phwoar. If I had two, I'd certainly give her one.) And if you're not down the pub of a Sunday evening, the ever-excellent Mixing It is on the same station at 11:00 pm. It's on the interweb here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/world/mixingit.shtml And both sites let you listen to the previous week's programmes. Dear old Auntie, where'd we be without her, hm? AND, here on Northern Ireland's Radio Ulster we have an excellent nightly alternative (read: decent) music programme called Across The Line. Never mind the name; crap word-play concerning the terrorist nonsense here is de rigueur. http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/atl/ Those of you in the British Isles should be able to receive Radio Ulster somewhere on medium wave (AM). Try 1341 kHz. I'd give it a miss on Thursday nights: the two presenters go across to Radio 1 for the Session in the Nations slot and ATL plays a lot of seriously off-putting dance stuff. (Across The Line deserves much more press than it gets. They were the first to play tracks by Snow Patrol, Reindeer Section, British Sea Power and Mogwai, amongst others.) Finally, every weekday evening at 7:15 pm Radio 4 has a programme called Front Row (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/frontrow/). General review of what's going on in the arts, television, cinema, books, theatre, etc. Excellent way to spend a half hour washing the dishes. Happy to be of service, - M. P.S. It's a long-shot, but if any of you kids are planning to go to R�yksopp's Belfast gig next Tuesday (20th August), drop me a line. I'm dangerously close to turning up myself, and not nearly this boring in person. Gamecube: Will the solution to the various treasure hunts be a matter for our children's generation of historians to unravel, or will some kindly soul at BANCHORY finally relent and deprive Mr Chu of his raison d'etre? Bum diddy bum bum: bum bum. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hodottir at xxx.com Mon Aug 12 18:29:59 2002 From: hodottir at xxx.com (The Hodottir) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 18:29:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: We're Traaaaaash, you and me Message-ID: It's been too long, hasn't it, Sinisters? In fact, it's been so long, that I can barely fit it in my trousers. It's been almost 9 months since I broke the sad news about being given the bastard fling from my dream job in recruitment advertising. But being the hardy rat-racer I am, I'm back on my 2 left feet, with a brand new job and many new pounds to play with - cha-ching! So you see, t'was a blessing in disguise. A bit like a vegas wedding, perhaps. Important Bit I Think List Parents Should Be Interested In: is that Hotmail recently introduced a junkmail filter, which can be set to various levels of stringency, and, unfortunately Sinister mails are classed as pestering even at the most lenient level. I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to avoid those oh so helpful 'debt consolidation' sons of spam, but I REALLY, REALLY don't want to think of you all as junk - So is there anything List Folks can do save our reputation? That'd be smashing. Anyway, as far as content goes, I think my saving the list from trashdom is more important. After mine, Joe & Flo's 'performance' on stage at the RAH (don't like to talk about it, natch :o) I have been thinking of offering the band my services by way of replacement for Isobel. In fact, I've even been practicing eyeliner and scowling (hard enough individually, nigh on impossible simultaneously) in preparation. So if anyone's listening, I'm available, and I'll only ask for a copywriter's salary (probably more than Isobel was paid, but I won't cost the band so much in frocks and cello strings). So there. The list has been fished from the festering poubelle and my ass (from which I sing) has been hocked. My work here is done. Say 'Hi' to the family for me, Miss Ho PS - I'm in Belfast (not in Belfast Bob - that would be overfriendly) this weekend. Can any Norren Irish Sinister give me tips on where to go? T'anks _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk Tue Aug 13 11:39:59 2002 From: MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk (Michael Ashbridge) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:39:59 GMT Subject: Sinister: (Hot) Mail handling Message-ID: <1B24BC02B9C@Blackstaff.ulst.ac.uk> Miss Hottodir isn't the only one who has noticed Hotmail's curious ideas on what constitutes junk mail and what doesn't. In the OPTIONS screen under the heading of MAIL HANDLING there is an option to set up properties for MAILING LISTS. Once there you can enter sinister at missprint.org and your mail should be safe. Alternatively, if you're supremely and unabashedly nerdy like me, you can click on CUSTOM FILTERS and specify a rule stating that anything with the word SINISTER in the subject field should be sent to a folder named SINISTER, which also ensures that off-list replies to your missives don't get junked by mistake. Yours ever, - M. P.S. Miss Hottodir, I'm a Norn Irish listee, and I sent a little something to your hotmail regarding your impending visit. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lizdaplyn at xxx.com Tue Aug 13 14:02:39 2002 From: lizdaplyn at xxx.com (Liz Daplyn) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:02:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Reporting Bach Message-ID: Well hello there chickens. HASTA LA VISTA Like rats leaving a sinking city, the young and the restless are (re)emigrating for shorter or longer periods of time depending on finance and inclination. The restless having inspired the Sarah Garret Sonner Memorial Games a couple of weeks ago and the young being Greg, whose farewell picnic of the weekend was as drunken and damp as anyone could wish for, even Mark. And we liberated a flat football from a tree. Not to mention communing with a scraggy urban fox at the stage of the night when the red wine wears off and it's time to catch the nightbus or a nasty cold. Or both. JE NE COMPRENDS PAS Anyway, something inspired me last night to listen to the recent Peel session again, and even sober I still like it. Particularly Love on the March (am a sucker for Astrud-Gilertesquerie and other bossa nova stylings) and Desperation Made a Fool of Me. A bit dubious about You Don't Send Me: I know it's difficult to rhyme with 'offend me', but 'you don't send me...' flowers? Text messages? Insane? Grammatically inelegant, I'm calling it, and I'm a fan of the split infinitive, you know. I QUATTRO STAGIONE God I love the BBC. Televised last night (previous to my tape-listening antics. Bugger, that reminds me - my tape tree tape will be in the post tomorrow, to whomever it concerns) from the Royal Albert Hall (scene of last autumn's triumphant B&S do - content!), a Henry Wood Promenade concert consisting of the Best Vivaldi Album in the World Ever Part III, performed con brio but with occasional glibness by the rather good Venice Baroque Orchestra. Italianissimo. The chamber organ was a little lost in the space, but the lutenist was manic and fab. Belfast Bob could take a few lessons in fretwankery. A LA RECHERCHE DES TEMPS PERDU(ES?) This all took me back to even before being on Sinister, sitting in my room at home revising for my GCSEs to the accompaniment of tapes of works by Antonio, also his mates Georg Frideric, Arcangelo and Jean-Baptiste. *sigh* Nostalgia for horrible teenage things like exams and such. However, and this is a rather laboured segue but bear with it: Sinister is one of the few things that I first encountered while (still just) a ghastly teenager, and it's had the grace to remain a thing of beauty and occasional annoyance in my life ever since. Gawd bless. Eeeek! Must buy new red pants. Last year's are in Wales. Profundity is quite beyond me at the moment, but I'm still quite good at baking so I'll see some of you in a couple of weeks for fun and games. Love, Liz :x _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Tue Aug 13 14:44:59 2002 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:44:59 +0700 Subject: Sinister: armchair teary - "i have a jaw, i have a broken jaw" peter dog lyon (1963) Message-ID: hello everyone, today i dropped a $2 coin down the back of my armchair. so i tried to get it out. what followed was funny, then sad. the following is a list of what i found in the back of my armchair (which was my aunts, then my parents, and has been mine for about 5 years - it is from the 50's i think) : a peg (no surprises there), a cool blue toy spanner, a fake charlie chaplinesque moustache, a pencil, a jigsaw piece (someone, somewhere, is cursing at this very moment), a purple texta, a piece of fence from a toy farm set, and a blue and white straw. All of those things made me think of being a kid - and being excited about building little farms, fixing broken toys with toy tools, then breaking the toy again so as I could fix it again. And the straw made me think of fishing with my dad and brother. you see, the best bait to use to catch herring is blue and white straws. or so my dad told me. we never did use to catch many fish... Excited by my find, I thought i would look in the sides of the chair. i was not disappointed. finds included: a Monkee's Trading card from 1966!, an entry form to win $500 - unfortunately the competition ended on the 26th of August, 1967, 2 trading cards (depicting spectacular car crashes!) from Weet-Bix packets, a small piece of newspaper with nothing of note on it, a comb, a photo of my uncle and aunt and cousins, a piece of paper with "i have a jaw, i have a broken jaw, peter dog lyon, 28/08/63" written on it (rather strange..), and last, but certainly not least, a letter from my nana to my older brother and I asking how school was going, how our dog (patsy) and cat (ginger) were, and telling me that my stuffed toy (puppy) was okay and enjoying his holiday in perth. you see i took puppy everywhere, and i accidentally left him at my nana and pop's once. But my nana found him, and said that he was having a nice holiday, and that he missed me. That was very sweet of her. She died about 8 years ago. I cried then, and I cried again today. i wish i could thank her. i didn't found my $2 coin. but i found lots of memories. i put everything back down the armchair, except for the photo and the letter. maybe in years to come someone else will drop a coin down there and find so much more than they had hoped for. maybe i should drop something belle and sebastianny down there. then if they happen to be on sinister they will have some content. be nice, terry PSa - happy birthdays to kin and jim! PSb - the recipe tree is kind of underway (send me recipes!). Caitlin Pigtails is very kindly and fantastically archiving the recipes on her website if anyone is interested. Here is a link: http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/sinifood/ If you want to get involved just email me. __________________________________________________________ Outgrown your current e-mail service? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Tue Aug 13 16:52:58 2002 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:52:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: An entry of pelvis Message-ID: Hey sinistees, So we're running up to the 5th birthday of Sinister. It is soothing to see the list to be suitably filled with a pleasant air of listalgia. I went into my drawer last night too and found a nice, though badly taken polaroid. The picture was taken on a hot lazy summer's day, seemingly of an off-licence in Camden Town. There was a calender inside the off-licence, on it it read 15th July, 2000 - the same day as the first sinister picnic I'd attended. I was outside, talking to a boy and a girl, the boy was wearing a "Moog" synthesiser T-Shirt, and the girl was carrying a bag, and inside the bag was some "Party Rings", and she had a DYNO sticker on her handbag with her name etched on it. The girl was very pretty and the boy had very nice boobs. I still can't really believe it's been over two years. I can still remember it just like yesterday, so many things have happened since, people come and gone, jobs lost and found, drinks bought and drunk and spilt and/or stolen, heart broken, and broken, but still that great big bloody hill is still there. And Honey still rocks. She rocked my socks especially today for some reason. Liz Daplyn has a lot more class than I. Whilst she was indulging in a Henry Wood Promenade concert on the BBC, I was watching a documentary on the girl who did "The World's Biggest Gang Bang", involving 251 men in 10 hours, on Channel 4. It was such a sad story too, she had all kinds of issues and all of these happened without even her mum knowing. I can't remember the point of telling you this was, I guess my mum doesn't know that I'm on some Internet list. No 251 girls in 10 hour actions yet though. Any volunteers? Not from Big Stu though.. he's too big for comfort. I really should buy a new pair of Red Knickers too for this year's Red Knicker Day, since the pair I had, two years ago, are now looking decidedly brown. A big contributing factor to having brown pants could have been the fact that last night, I played DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION EUROMIX T!W!O! for the first time, and it was the dog's Sandras. I got to dance to Duran Duran, for God's sake. And.. Steps... One day DDR will have Belle & Sebastian on it, I tell you, and I'll be able to tell you or about it on sinister, if Sinister will still be here. I hope so. Traditions, revolutions and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Wouldn't it be nice if on the 5th Birthday of Sinister the band will release the clues of the Treasure Hunt? Surely Neil Robertson is dying to, I mean, the words "Treasure Hunt" even rhyme with his favourite word. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From whistlingpixie at xxx.com Tue Aug 13 17:14:46 2002 From: whistlingpixie at xxx.com (Thomas Tollefsen) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: possible solution to the prisoner riddle Message-ID: <20020813161446.29540.qmail@web12801.mail.yahoo.com> Hey all, I'm sorry to say that this post has virtually no Belle and Sebatian conten; so if you don't like this riddle stuff, you'd best not waste your time and read further. O.K., so after racking my brain (is that even an expression?) for many a moon, here is what I would do if I were one of those prisoner types in the riddle: They designate one prisoner as the "counter". I know, we could call him Stuart or The Major (now there's some content!). (Alternatively, and slightly more efficiently, they agree that the person who goes in on day 2 as the counter, for reasons which shall soon be apparent.) (Even more efficiently, they can designate the person who goes in on day 3. More on that later.) The prisoners (other than the counter) follow the following rules: If the bulb is off, and if they have never turned the bulb on before, they turn in on. Otherwise, they do nothing with the light. The counter does this: If the light is on, he turns it off and adds one to his count. If the light is off, he does nothing. If he has turned the light off 99 times, he declares that everyone has been in the room and they all go free. I haven't worked out the average time this will take, but I'm quite sure it's something over 9,900 days. (9,900 days is the average amount of time it will take for the counter to enter the room 99 times. Since some times he enters, the light will be off - because no one new has entered since his previous visit - the average time will be longer.) The slight efficiency improvement has to do with modifying the rules for the first two days and naming the person on day 3 as the "counter". The first day, the person turns the light on. On the second day, if it's a new person, he leaves the light on. If it's the same person as day 1, he turns if off. The counter arrives on day 3. If the light is on, he starts his count at 2. If the light is off, he starts his count at 1. Voila and they all go free to discuss the merits of Storytelling! Well maybe not quite so voila, seeing how this would still take at a minimum over 27 years. Maybe they all have life sentences though and 27 years seems like a happy enough alternative. Whadya think, eh? Again, sorry for no B and S content, but I thought that there might be some people who would find even a highly inefficient solution at least interesting to gnaw on for a while. "And now we rise, and we are everywhere" Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zoziepop at xxx.com Tue Aug 13 22:32:56 2002 From: zoziepop at xxx.com (Dimitra Daisy) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 00:32:56 +0300 Subject: Sinister: Stories and Ink Polaroids from Haldern and other places Message-ID: ...This is one of me and Rachel and Belle sitting on a bench by the river in Nairn talking to the one-and-a-half-legged seagull. Belle has just jumped on Rachel and Rachel has just got jam on her trousers. They sky is cloudy and bright and the light is coming from everywhere around. It feels so unreal and magical. I am holding a stolen rose that�s pretending to be a daisy and if you listen close enough, you can hear me say: �I am a lurker, I�m not a lurker, I am a lurker, I�m not� Hello, I�m Dimitra and I like Belle and Sebastian. Actually, I like them so much, that I thought it would be a good idea to stop in Germany on my way from Scotland to Greece to see them once more �and to meet yet some more sinisterines. Travelling is a strange thing, though, it sort of happens without you; once you decide it, it just takes care of itself. And I�ve been to and left so many places and different situations and ways of living in the past month, that on my the train from Amsterdam to Germany, I was feeling like an alien � what the hell am I doing here? But then again, I couldn�t think of anywhere else I could be. So I stayed on the train and listened to Richard�s perfect mixtape, and waited for the time when it would all start feeling okay. At first Haldern was hot, later on, it was wet; everyone was speaking different languages and I hadn�t really known them before. But they were lovely, really: they put up my tent for me (cause I had never seen it before and couldn�t figure out what to do), they gave me food and drink and money and everything else I had managed not to bring with me; and it has something to do with falling asleep and waking up again and people being there, but by Saturday morning Haldern was the right place to be despite the rain. ...This one was taken on Friday afternoon � that�s me looking silly in the middle of the road and the girl walking up to me is Nal. I know she�s Nal, but for some reason all I can think of is she�s not Ola (for who I am waiting for) so when she asks me if I know who she is, I say no. You can see the stupid look on my face, the fields around of which the camping site consisted, and generally Germany being sunny! You can�t see Ola walking up to us cause she�s on the opposite side... ...That�s from a few hours later, there weren�t any lights in the fields so it was very dark with the darkness of the countryside. The boy that�s sitting half in and half out of the tent is Mark Bots; he�s smoking and talking in a drunk quiet voice about how flat Holland is; I am kneeling on the grass and getting wet (the weather had changed); you can make out the outlines of tents �that are not in rows-, cars, and at the back, some trees; and above them, there are three or so fireworks. They�re green and orange. To my tired and dazzled mind it all feels like a dream... ...And this is from the next morning, that�s Mark and Marsha sitting under the tree in the rain having breakfast. It�s fairly dry under the tree but all around the rain falls harder and harder; you can see it fall on �yet another- green field behind them... I joined them, and we sat there until the tree started dripping too much for our liking. Then the rain stopped, and later on Belle and Sebastian came on stage, and the �what else am I going to do for this band, why am I doing this anyway� soon turned into �what am I going to do when they stop touring? What am I going to do without them?!� . This was the sixth time I�ve seen them play (in a little longer than a year) and it was the one that made me remember all the reasons why I ever fell in love with them in the first place, and fall in love with them again. I�m not sure how this time was different from the others, I have to admit that the setlist was perfect and that they do, really, seem to be having more fun on stage without Isobel � but there was something about it, and when Stuart sang �you can concentrate on the ones you love� it brought back memories of the time I first heard that and how I was so thrilled, and touched, and surprised, that there was someone else out there that concentrates on the ones they love before they fall asleep. And they made a song about it! And I liked it so much, that I bought all their records and I joined a mailing list about them; so much, that three years later, almost every other song reminded me of something: Waking Up to Us reminded me of listening to it in Benicassim and thinking �I though they�d never write songs that describe my life anymore, but this does! Wow!�, Jonathan David reminded me of singing it in various places around Europe that summer; Scooby Driver made me bounce and Roy Walker made me dance, Simple Things made me sigh and Loneliness of A Middle Distance Runner almost made me cry. And thank god for Belle and Sebastian. And I was so happy, I wanted to cry and bounce and laugh at the same time; I wanted to marry them and take them home with me, I wanted to watch Stevie spin and dance and be so cute in genaral and I wanted to figure out what�s going on in Stuart�s head and I wanted to make Mick smile and make Sarah talk and laugh at Chris� jokes. (It was a bit sad, when they disappeared backstage: how we think of them and they don�t need us in their lives). And wherever I looked there were happy Belle and Sebastian fans, grinning stupidly and bouncing to the music played in their heads. ...This one is of Robbie, one of the Bowlie kids, doing that exactly... ...Oh, this one is of the Belle and Sebastian party we had later, we sat on a blanket and listened to the latest Peel Session and Tigermilk and sang along and we talked about how they and the internet changed our lives, and about travelling and different places. All the things that I�ve come to like about festivals, that is. But all you can see is a bunch of kids sat behind a car in the dark, drinking, looking at the stars. I told you, it was very dark. I think we were too inspired and happy to let this night end and to make it last longer, we sat in the space between our tents �Mark, Ola and Goshia, Annie, Aton, Olivier, and Andreas, a random German bloke Aton had met at the station. Mark and Ola played the guitar and we sang along, some people more than others. (This one is of Mark singing dEUS� Three Blind Mice, which send me right back the when I was 18). And then, when they ran out of songs to play on the guitar, we sang without it� some people did more than others� I usually don�t sing, and there�s a reason for that; as Mark very kindly put it, I have a Moldy Peaches type of voice. Meaning, I can�t sing really. But Mark and Ola said I sounded nice, and no one complained, so I sang three of four Hefner songs with Ola, along with This Charming Man; and then I sang half a Hefner song, � of an Aislers Set song and a greek nursery rhyme about all things pink. On my own. In the dark. To seven other people. And it felt great. ...I think this one is from when I was singing Home, I can�t tell you how priceless it feels to bounce in the dark (to keep warm) and sing to a circle of Belle and Sebastian fans that Dirty young wives turn to pretty young mums in the springtime You�re dirty bussinessmen with no light in your lives You�ve got no dirty little wife of your own I can�t believe it�s true what they�re saying I just want to go home All these people are cheaters and liars I just want to go home You�ll never know what your love is like My true love is at home We've got the songs, we've got the sun, we've got the love... ...And this one is from the when I was singing in greek� I had my eyes closed and my fists clenched and I must have looked like a five-year-old at a school show. Everyone took it as a lullaby. Love and pink songs and dark nights zoziepop xx ps I want to really really thank Ola and Mark for getting me to sing, and Mark especially for finding something nice to say about my singing! I never thought this could happen. I am as thankful to them as I am to Kenny for making me dance at Tigermilking for the first time in my life� pps Here is the almost perfect setlist (stolen from the Bowlie Boards and revised and still probably inaccurate), so that you can be appropriately jealous: Fuck This Shit Sleep the clock around String Bean Jean Waking Up to Us Wandering Alone Get Me Away From Here Like Dylan In The Movies Jonathan David Scooby Driver (extended version! Woo!) Simple Things The Boy With The Arab Strap Dirty Dream Number Two Roy Walker Middle Distance Runner Wrong Girl Me and the Major Legal Man And Kraftwerks "Das Modell" (with Stuart and Stevie not singing the words very confidently and the melody based on Mick�s trumpet, sooo great), then the Model, and Seymour Stein somewhere in the middle but I�m not sure when. Do you see why were so happy? pps Back to being a lurker! _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snyggtwee at xxx.com Tue Aug 13 22:59:33 2002 From: snyggtwee at xxx.com (m. paisley) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:59:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: when I had dreams / when I was young / used to hear voices / used to sing along Message-ID: Recommended Music for Sinister Ears: 1. Chicago "Cell Block Tango" (Single, My Ass) >that what we have is insignificant. What we have (Me >and..say, Mrs. X) is fun. Movies, walks in the park, My advice is to stay away from women named Mrs. X, unless you happen to be Mr. X. >another thing, I currently have a girlfriend (who I do >also like: I should make a choice shouldn't I?) And, anyway, what are you doing hanging with X's? You must live somewhere with gun control. So I heard that Chicago is being made into a film, which is great because I never got the chance to see the musical. It was just last week that a friend of mine (who HAS seen the musical, and is already worrying about the artistic stylings of the movie in the making) played a bit of it while we were rearranging the position of his new bed. Nothing smutty should be read into that last phrase. The smut comes later. It's going to be my content, too. Can't you wait? Oh, alright. I'll try get to it as quickly. Well, last night I went to the Beth Orton concert. 2. Beth Orton "Stolen Car" and "Devil Song" My friend Martin was asking me what I was going to do that night. And I said I was going to see Beth Orton and listen to her play. And he didn't know who she was. And I tried to explain to him that her music was exquisite comfort, very good for when I am feeling sad and introspective. Beautiful vocals and strings, and I was trying to say that they had something to do with emptiness, and I mentioned that I'd read of her parents both dying before she was 20. And he said, "Oh, get over it" (about her parents), which is a terrific way to make me pissed off and shut down a conversation. What I wanted to say something about the grieving and the dreaminess of her songs. Martin may be a friend of mine, but that doesn't mean he isn't a jackass with a living family whom he visits frequently. Isn't life bad enough that the least we can offer each other is compassion? Are anyone's sorrows beyond our own individual troubles so incomprehensible? I mean, really. The night before that was even better, though, because I went to a David concert. Now, I am a B&S fan. Oh yes, I definitely am. 3. David Garza "Loveless" and "We Told You So" [download the mp3's at http://www.thiseuphoria.net/music/] But David is special to me, because his music was my original music. His songs are my original comfort music, or joyful music, or bitter sounds that resonated with me. You're psychotic fans, I hope we can understand each other here. He's touring a bit at the moment, but he's scheduled to do two more shows in Austin, and if I feel really ambitious I may try to see one in Dallas, too. 4. Alejandro Escovedo "I Was Drunk" and "Put Your Down" Howard Shady (I think that was him) mentioned that old ex-alcoholic cowpunk. You know he's got a musical running here in Austin? BOO! It's time for the content at last! Because the night before I saw David, I went to sleep early. But the night before that, I went to Zilker Park to see "Into the Woods." BUT THE NIGHT BEFORE THAT... I went to a strip club for the very first time. 5. Belle & Sebastian "My Wandering Days Are Over" You were doing it for businessmen on the piano, Belle. How it come about is a nearly unbearably long tale. But this visit requires some explanation. My friend Blake has been needing a job for the better part of the summer, yes, another summer wasting. A couple of the blocks that have prevented this include him not getting accepted due to failure of the psychology testing portion of the application (to work at places like video rentals or sunglasses stores). We couldn't work out just why specifically, but his mother used to beat him some when she got drunk (sometimes with the bottle) and I'm going to boldly hypothesize that she may have got him on the head too many times. None of the above prevented him from getting into college or being a really great person, but another problem has been that the places where he was accepted to work could only hire females. Because they already had too many males. And they needed their numbers to even out some. And all along, his dad's been offering to get him a job at this certain strip club, as a barback, which is something a little less than a bartender. A lousy job, but a job that would pay, you know? Blake hardly wanted to be around drunk people anymore, but he asked me and I said he could just work it and keep searching for something else. And he said alright, but he wanted me to come with him. Getting in was okay, and the contact guy talked to Blake and while he was filling out the papers I got to sit down in the main room. I looked around some for a while. I thought to myself about the girls I know from the university who always start talking about turning to stripping and dancing when it comes time to pay tuition and rent. I looked at the girls who were working in there, and they were working hard. I don't guess they get much outside training, but internally those women must be pretty damn tough to work a job like that. Those college girls always talk about dancing and all as being "easy money," and then they look at you. Like they're challenging you to say they're not pretty enough. I just say "Okay, so do it." But they never do. It's not a question of pretty, although the bodies in there were the kind you think of. Stereotypes...flat here, round and full there, and a nice face with a lot of hair all curled around. I just don't think it's right to say that any job is easy until you actually work it. It's disrespectful to the people who've actually been there. Anyway, I got tired of looking and started reading my book after a while. But then the hiring manager wanted to talk to Blake in the back office, and Blake gave me a look, so I had to get up and follow them back into a cramped office with three chairs crammed in and naked girlie posters coating the walls. When he'd finished talking and we got up to leave, he noticed my book and asked to see it. I was kind of reluctant, because I didn't know what he was going to do with it. But I handed it to him, and told him it was "The Perks of Being a Wallflower," which is a rather Sinister book that Blake had lent to me. His big red and white face stared at the cover and flipped through a few pages, not seeming to recognize what it was. Then he smiled big and said, "I know this is a good book. Know why?" (obligatory shrug and waiting smile) "Lookit this name. Ends in s-k-y." Stephen Chobosky. Indeed. "Means it was written by a Polack." And then he laughed, a huge loud laugh. I never in my life before heard anyone say the word "Polack" before. Of course, I was nigh twenty before I could grasp that people actually did use the word "tits" as an acceptably serious word, either. I thought it was just kids who used it. Adults are so often disappointing. I smiled tightly and took my book back from the man. Out in the parking lot, Blake and I had a conversation like this: "What the hell was that?" "Did you like looking at those 'entertainers'?" "Is he Polish with a weird sense of humor or what?" "I'm never going back there." As it turned out, the job his dad had supposedly secured hadn't really been available. And both the managers Blake had talked to were drunk and creepy about it, so he isn't going to try to work there anymore. But to Sinister, I shall always return. Because... 6. Sam Cooke "You Send Me" Especially Liz, who also thrills me. Yup, darling, you thrill me, honest you do. And Sinister, I want to marry you and take you home. This is all I got, and this is all I am. Goddamn. I'm still Paisley, but I'm contemplating Plaid. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Wed Aug 14 07:51:23 2002 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:51:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: storytelling review Message-ID: <20020814065123.99974.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> I know it's been out for a while and we've all formed our opinons but fans of the pop band Belle & Sebastian might like to know that the Onion has a review of Tory Shelling: http://www.theonionavclub.com/avclub3829/music3829.html The text is at the end of this post for those without the old-fashioned interweb. Ken inked: 'I was outside, talking to a boy and a girl, the boy was wearing a "Moog" synthesiser T-Shirt' He sounds like a nice bloke - I think it was his first picnic too. Robster [][][][][][] Belle And Sebastian Storytelling (Jeepster/Matador) United by a shared understanding of suburban ennui, the music of Belle And Sebastian and the films of Todd Solondz make for a more natural match than the sum total of Solondz's Storytelling would suggest. Maybe that's why the film seems improved by its soundtrack album, which finds a heart beneath the layers of creeping misanthropy. According to Belle And Sebastian trumpeter Mick Cooke, only about six minutes of music composed for the film made it into the final cut. That leaves the band with a grab bag of instrumental and vocal tracks that are too specific in their intent for a proper B&S album, but which (dialogue excerpts aside) have only a passing connection to the film itself. As an album, Storytelling is most easily viewed as an assortnment of B&S songs that almost accidentally make up a compelling album all their own, though split almost evenly between instrumental and vocal tracks. The former reveal that the group's idea of a cinematic score has a lot in common with the work of Ennio Morricone—although, typically enough for a band that avoids directly canonical influences, tracks like "Freak," "Fuck This Shit," and "Consuelo" owe a greater debt to the work Morricone turned out for indistinguishable romances and thrillers in the '60s and '70s than to any of his more famous efforts. The brief, dreary "I Don't Want To Play Football" aside, the vocal tracks have the unforced charm of the singles that Belle And Sebastian regularly turns out between albums: sunny pop with rainy lyrics. There's an unprecedented hint of funk on "Big John Shaft," a song about the impossibility of balancing Hollywood acting and self-respect, written for Storytelling actor Robert Wisdom. And the title track sums up the themes of Solondz's film in just over three minutes, without any limp stabs at American Beauty or uncomfortable gags about cerebral palsy. Not a bad trick. —Keith Phipps __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From helentheaker at xxx.com Wed Aug 14 08:52:02 2002 From: helentheaker at xxx.com (helen theaker) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:52:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: We're Traaaaaash, you and me Message-ID: (For Hotmail users) About the Trash/Junk status of sinister emails, I managed to stop it from putting them in the Junk Mail folder by putting sinister at missprint.org in my safe list. You do this by selecting a sinister email in the Junk Mail folder, and clicking on the button 'This is not Junk Mail'. It then comes up with a dialogue and you just click 'yes'. Voila! Cheers Helen _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From anakin_sky at xxx.net Wed Aug 14 14:44:56 2002 From: anakin_sky at xxx.net (anakin_sky at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:44:56 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Sinister: haldern and wet feet Message-ID: <19668.1029332696@www44.gmx.net> hello. i'm truly sorry to have to say this, and i guess after this i no longer deserve to be on sinister: i was deeply disappointed with belle & sebastian at haldern festival. i've just read dimitra's post, and i don't know what happened... i really love b&s, and they are able to move and touch me deeply, otherwise i would't be on this list in the first place. but in haldern they seemed completely fucked up, stoned, moody, listless, uncaring. i say this after having seen them in rotterdam in april and having found them absolutely gorgeous and glorious and tear-jerking there. i guess the main problem in haldern was that the sound was really shite, they were way too quiet, the microphone didn't work properly, etc.; must have been a specific b&s sound problem though, because gomez before them and the notwist after them sounded good (and were great.) hm. also stuart forgot some lyrics and sang really badly at times, it all sounded like a bad karaoke show. and it wasn't only me, i was there with a lot of b&s fans, and they all seemed to think more or less the same. although i really loved the songs, and i danced, and i sang with them, and i was still happy to see them, but generally they just disappointed many of their fans. so, that's out. would love to hear some opinions on whether it is okay to slag off a gig of a band one deeply loves. my personal haldern highlight were doves. OH MY GOD, they rocked so hard and they made me so happy. i was standing right in front of the stage with some crazy irish, australians, and english people with a rubber giraffe called jerry. i had so much fun up there, and i was so moved; doves were playing my favourite song for the first time ever ("sulphur man") and it made me cry with happiness. the other bands that rocked (in my opinion): gomez, cooper temple clause, savoy grand (heart-breakingly beautiful), mull historical society, supergrass, leaves, notwist. so a smashing festival it was nonetheless, and i had a really cool time, drinking a lot, dancing a lot, and laughing a lot. yeah. so what's the weather like in your parts of the world, because here in germany we have serious raining that has resulted in flooded areas galore in many parts of germany. leipzig, the place i am right now, is like an island in the state of saxony, where loads places suffered heavy flooding and a huge number of people had to leave their homes. it's catastrophic, but hopefully it will stop raining soon. anne. -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Wed Aug 14 23:10:58 2002 From: rfadden at xxx.com (rrrrobyn) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: all my days inactive will be justified Message-ID: <20020814221058.73673.qmail@web11107.mail.yahoo.com> sinista! horrah! ohmygod, i'm: back to happy: well, medium perhaps. i'm not bouncing off the walls or anything. not all the time. and i sense my wit returning. things are moving along with the big move (which would make sense). i even had a yard sale and made some money (people buy the weirdest crap. like, people really wanted old issues of national geographic and paid real money for them. i blanche at what their houses must be filled with. but then, my apartment was once filled with such crap too. yet why nobody bought the 1986-version nancy drew box-set is beyond me.) anyway, i also got a bit of a tan, which 'the media' says is 'unhealthy', but damn, it *looks* healthy. i need more summer time. i saw mum last night: the band, that is. and they were great! and so cute! and so many cute instruments. the accordian being my absolute favourite, it just exudes emotion the accordian, esp in the hands of of the mum girls. also, the use of pop rocks candy as musical instrument was fantastic. indulge my self-indulgence: there's a woman from down the hall here at work who often comes into my office to use the kitchen. or something. i don't know, i don't work with her, maybe she just wants to talk. which she does. so the other day she said that i looked nice and then asked if i was "up to my neck in alligators." i had never heard this expression before and assumed it to be work-related. so i said, "yes, i'm always busy." and she said (genuinely), "yeah, i bet all the guys are hanging off you" and smiled and was on her way back down the hall. and i was, like, *what?* what a weird thing to say. maybe i was just having a hott day (pfft, yeah...). really though: alligators? this would be worrisome, but b/c it's the woman down the hall who said it, it's mostly just funny. hahahaha. i love blackcurrant tea: yes, so last week was all me drinking far too much tea while being #sinister and happy with the morning sun streaming into my apartment and then realizing later that i had pretty much missed the mid-morning sun, mid-day sun and early afternoon sun due to my 'holiday-mode' frame of mind. why is there this need to be outside during holiday? b/c outside is good. b/c if you go outside you feel like you've had more of a summer. hence my want for more summer time. all very logical. fuck grammar, 2nd edition, 3rd reprint: summer is *not* a time for editing. i need to be working outside (see paragraph above). this week's edition of the onion: brilliant. however, the yoda story is, franky, scary. sinister 'dialogue': c'mon, you know i love ya even if i don't quote ya, baby. :) i absorb it all though; it contributes to the me that i am and will be, etc. i have, however, made a few trips into the ever-hilarious and informative archives recently. among the data gathered: 'gouda' has been mentioned *nine* times, coming close to 'brie', which has about 19 mentions, while 'cheese' itself comes in with a whopping 140 mentions. yours in the Pursuit of Information, robyn ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From helentheaker at xxx.com Thu Aug 15 12:43:13 2002 From: helentheaker at xxx.com (helen theaker) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:43:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Saw the Datsuns, Pattern and Kaito on Tuesday Message-ID: Hey there I saw some bands on Tuesday, thought I'd tell you all about them. They were all very good, but all different, a really good combination of bands. The first was Kaito, who I've never heard before but were really good, kind of Punk/indie, sounded a bit like Bow wow wow. I thought they must have been a New York band (because of the style) but I spoke to the lead singer afterwards and I think she was English. The Datsuns were next, they've been in NME quite a lot recently. They were really energetic and loud and they rocked. The lead singer was a bit tasty too :). I liked their bass lines, always an important factor in a good song for me. Finally there was the Pattern, who were pretty good but they were really pissed so they were a bit all over the place. The drummer was excellent. The lead singer kept sucking his thumb and reminded me a bit of Craig Nicholls. The rapport on stage within the band was really good as well which made it loads of fun to watch. Has anyone else seen any of these? Particularly Kaito, who were my favourite band of the night. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lickingrailings at xxx.com Thu Aug 15 13:05:47 2002 From: lickingrailings at xxx.com (Carl Brown) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:05:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: my wandering days are over...... Message-ID: hey sinister, this is my first ever post! after a few weeks of playing with dull bricks in the nursery, i am now officially a big boy. so i'm gonna try and tell you lovely people a little about me (hopefully i'll not break any of the many sinister rules..) i'm carl. i attend birmingham university where i read books, write bloody awful poetry and eat loadsa uncooked pasta whilst arguing about the merits of grated cheese vs ungrated cheese (any thoughts anyone?)with my unenlightened housemate. oh and, green tomato ketchup. i like that as well. i have been wanting to speak with more b & s people for a while. i saw sinister, but never bothered until now---always being content to wander over the net hoping to find something else instead. what i was looking for, exactly, i'm not sure. but i didnt find it. isnt that always the case though?---the only things worth finding are the things that you dont know exist. but this is hardly the place to get all philosophical on yer ass. so i wont. currently got a summer job working in a goddam boring office. entering goddam boring codes. into a goddam boring machine. for a goddam boring boss. but yer know, i cant complain. the sun is shining, i have books, poetry, soothing music and my pasta. going round europe in a few weeks as well, woooo-hooo! going inter-railing. where shall i go? vienna? berlin? rome? i'm so excited that my feet are aching from stamping too much. plus--b & s play athens in sept. so might just have to wander down there and see what the band are like in the aftermath of cute 'bel's departure. so, is there many sinisterites----is that the word? or is it sinisterees? sinisters?----can someone please clear this up for me? its a matter of no importance---therefore i need to know. anyway are there many people on here who live in birmingham UK. would be cool if there are---let me know. so thats about it. a very tentative first post possibly. but there you go. i am more accustomed to the nursery and bricks after all. built a wondrous castle last week. with a moat. carl x -job -europe -b & s -brum -thanx c ya, etc _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lickingrailings at xxx.com Thu Aug 15 13:08:14 2002 From: lickingrailings at xxx.com (Carl Brown) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:08:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: my wandering days are over...... Message-ID: hey sinister, this is my first ever post! after a few weeks of playing with dull bricks in the nursery, i am now officially a big boy. so i'm gonna try and tell you lovely people a little about me (hopefully i'll not break any of the many sinister rules..) i'm carl. i attend birmingham university where i read books, write bloody awful poetry and eat loadsa uncooked pasta whilst arguing about the merits of grated cheese vs ungrated cheese (any thoughts anyone?)with my unenlightened housemate. oh and, green tomato ketchup. i like that as well. i have been wanting to speak with more b & s people for a while. i saw sinister, but never bothered until now---always being content to wander over the net hoping to find something else instead. what i was looking for, exactly, i'm not sure. but i didnt find it. isnt that always the case though?---the only things worth finding are the things that you dont know exist. but this is hardly the place to get all philosophical on yer ass. so i wont. currently got a summer job working in a goddam boring office. entering goddam boring codes. into a goddam boring machine. for a goddam boring boss. but yer know, i cant complain. the sun is shining, i have books, poetry, soothing music and my pasta. going round europe in a few weeks as well, woooo-hooo! going inter-railing. where shall i go? vienna? berlin? rome? i'm so excited that my feet are aching from stamping too much. plus--b & s play athens in sept. so might just have to wander down there and see what the band are like in the aftermath of cute 'bel's departure. so, is there many sinisterites----is that the word? or is it sinisterees? sinisters?----can someone please clear this up for me? its a matter of no importance---therefore i need to know. anyway are there many people on here who live in birmingham UK. would be cool if there are---let me know. so thats about it. a very tentative first post possibly. but there you go. i am more accustomed to the nursery and bricks after all. built a wondrous castle last week. with a moat. carl x _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lizdaplyn at xxx.com Thu Aug 15 13:22:42 2002 From: lizdaplyn at xxx.com (Liz Daplyn) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:22:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: on a Haydn to nothing Message-ID: Oh heck, what did I want to say? It'll come back, probably just after my credit's run out. Anyway, the following came to mind when, after purchasing my very own copy of Laura Cantrell's beautiful beautiful album 'Not the Tremblin' Kind' (ooh! Country Nouvelle!) for a criminal #3.99 in the nasty little Impulse shop at Luton airport, I was listening to it on a poxy EasyJet flight (my own row of seats at the back) to Paris a couple of weeks ago, gasping at the lurid orange glow reflected in the windows off the 'plane's cutprice wings and eyes watering from the recycled air. I think it's kind of relevant given the degree of peripateticism indulged in by spinisters. Shifty folk given to continent-hopping we certainly are. I think air travel encourages emotional openness. Maybe it's simply the stress of airports etc coupled with tiredness and uncomfortable surroundings (explaining the cushioned smugness of Business Classers),but possibly the act of rising at inhuman velocities through changing atmospheric pressures and conditions results in a slightly altered chemical balance in the body. Clouds seen from above are quite as trite as when planted firmly on solid ground, even or particularly when bathed in smoggy sunset, but there is an ineffable difference in the experience. It broadens the mind, they say. Love, Liz :x _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mr_zarabowski at xxx.uk Thu Aug 15 14:15:38 2002 From: mr_zarabowski at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?stout=20robin?=) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:15:38 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: You missed a bit... Message-ID: <20020815131538.7042.qmail@web21510.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinisterines! rockin' Rrrobyn said: <> I saw mum last week. And dad, too. They're alright, you know. Dad's been doing a bit of wallpapering, and mum's runner beans are looking fantastic... Seriously, I think múm are okay, but I'm a bit annoyed that I went off and bought the album after hearing their last single on the radio. It's a case of the single being better than the whole of the rest of the album, I think, and I should have payed more attention to the girl in the record shop who told me exactly the same when I bought it. It's not bad, just a bit wallpapery. And as we know, wallpaper is for dads. ++ In the birthday spirit, I've been looking at a few ink polaroids. Here's the oldest one I could find: Here's Ailsa and Kevan and Arantxa and me, in chalet number 650. Everyone's looking a little suprised and confused because they've never met before. Well, in Ailsa's case the expression's more drunk and confused, and she's holding a glass of what I think was called String Bean Gin. There are other people here too, on the sofabed in the background, but they've been a bit smudged by beer drops or tear drops, I don't know which. A lot happened that night before the polaroid had a chance to dry. ++ Lucy and Mark were talking about SPIDERS! Well, my job involves looking at patent applications and occasionally someone comes across one that’s funny and emails it to everyone. The other day a girl who works in the baths, showers and toilets department found a mini ladder with a suction pad which sticks to the inside of a bath so that spiders can climb out in safety. Aww! It’s so sweet! Here’s an artist's impression of the spider ladder at work in a dramatic spider rescue! 1. |_| |_| <=ladder | | * <=scared spider (O) <=plughole 2. |_| |*| <=spider in dramatic rescue action |¯| <=ladder (O) <=plughole 3. * <=happy spider! |_| |_| <=ladder | | (O) <=plughole hooray! ++ Do you ever think of funny things to say just when it’s too late? This is what happened to me today, when I met Paul outside the tea room; P: Do you know what I think that stain on the floor is? Me: Tea? P: No Me: Erm...(I hate it when people make you guess stuff when they know you won’t be able to.) Err... Tea? P: Rat urine! Me: Eh? P: Yeah, we had rats in our house once and it looked just like that. Me: But how do they possibly get up here, when we’re on the second floor? I mean they can’t catch the lift, can they? They won’t be able to reach the buttons. P: (enigmatically) Maybe they know someone on the inside! Paul goes off to make a cup of tea and I’m left standing in the corridor. Me: Yeah, maybe they have FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES! HA HA HA! Oh! He’s gone! Hello boss! Er, yes, funny things these... these, erm... bye then! Grrr!!! Do you see? FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES! Ha ha! Er, bye Robin x __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Thu Aug 15 14:22:22 2002 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:22:22 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: Sinister: five candles Message-ID: Well, we had a very civilised picnic on Saturday (although the subject of Mark C's cock did keep rearing its ugly head. As it were.) I also managed to drag my hungover corse out on Sunday night for a quick catch-up with the glorious sons (and daughters) of York, which was all good and gossipy. I'm a bit late for proper Reporting Back though, so I'll get straight on to the ephemera instead. We're nearly five! I'm not quite ready for my pensive birthday post yet, so I thought we could check out some of the people with whom we share our birthday instead: Mother Teresa (yes! it's true!) Man Ray Theodore Dreiser Lyndon B Johnson Confucius (explains a lot) and Peewee Herman (explains even more) I can hardly wait to break out my red knickers from their special velvet storage box and hotfoot it up to Primrose Hill next Sunday for a 5TH BIRTHDAY PICNIC, or a mi-decennie as the French might say (but unfortunately don't). Bugger, I have run out of things to say. This is what comes of whoring your opinions round the internet - you can't even rustle up a substantial chunk of wit and charm for the ones who started it all off in the first place, my first love, my secret vice, my imaginary friend, my teacher, my crush... oops, the pensive version nearly broke in there. Where was I? Oh yes. Luv Archel xxx PS. Linda pointed out the presence of 'fox in the snow' in Woolf's Orlando, of course, but did she notice that the book also contains the phrase 'extremely smutty'? COINCIDENCE? I don't think so. PPS. Welcome Carl! I believe there is some shady sinisterine called Ian resident in Brum, but you don't want to get involved with his particular brand of sin and depravity, trust me. He kept a NUN in his CLOSET you know. ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 12813249 at xxx.za Thu Aug 15 14:58:59 2002 From: 12813249 at xxx.za (JohaN HUGO) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:58:59 +200 Subject: Sinister: oh, you know, the usual stuff... Message-ID: hi again! so, i wasn't really going to post again, till i had done some experiments (quickly dashes out and purchases home-made wurlitzer from the whizz-kid down the block, assumes vincent price hairstyle and... no, wait, that's not a hairstyle, that's just a badly insulated plugpoint! damn cheap home-made stuff!), but lizz actually used (and i quote... that is to say, i cut and paste, because i'd NEVER get it right) "peripateticism", and surely one can't let that sort of thing go. boy, if we ever had a giant intergalactic sinister scrabble-evening (or have we? i forget...) well, i definitely wouldn't play, but i could bring some brackets, i seem to have a lot lying around. (it's just my latent parentheticism, i think) MY SECRET SHAME (pty ltd &c) ALSO, robin mentioned SPIDERS! now, could i tell you about spiders! no, seriously spiders THIS big, or actually, counting the legs (well, there'd be 8 wouldn't there? har-har) they'd be about THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS big. and very very hairy (scary!). well, i'm not ashamed of the spiders exactly (like crabs, they happen to the best of us. er... uhm they do right?), but finding this one on the front-door yesterday, i'm afraid i made rather a mess of things... it, to be exact. i know i know, NORMALLY i'd grab the nearest tupperware container and humanely remove it, but when it just conveniently crawls into the of the hinge while fetching said container, a swift slam of the door becomes mighty tempting (did i mention the size of this mo...edipus?)... well, i'm not proud of what i did, and was in fact brooding on it a little driving to work 10 minutes later, WHEN ANOTHER ONE STARTED CRAWLING OVER MY WINDSCREEN, ON THE INSIDE, ABOUT 20cm AWAY FROM MY HEAD! i tell you, thank goodness for red traffic-lights or the pile-up would have been something. i'm not really one for trashy horror of the "revenge of the arachnids"-type, or classy adaptations of the classics like "beowulf for baboon-spiders", but you know when you've got a bit of a guilty conscience... well, from my new-found position in the passenger-seat i tried to shoo it out the open window, only to have it drop on the driver's seat! just as everyone behind me's starting to hoot and everything to get my stalled car moving. the rest of the drive to work, with a now vanished but presumably pissed-off spider THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS size in my car was NOT FUNNY! anyway, so no-one eensy-weensy spider me for a while please! on a more CONTENTS-related tangent: (and all the boys and girls say YAAAAYYYY!) i'm sure this has been discussed at length here before, but still. how does everyone feel about the tracklistings on the albums? i mean the sequence of the songs. i've thought about it before, and the storytelling review reminded me again. for example, it took me a while to realize why IYFS seemed a better album to me than TBWTAS when the latter actually has more of my favourite songs on it. so i started playing around with it a little, and i found that, eg. it worked for a lot better if you went straight from "sleep the clock around" into "ease your feet off", then i found that i really liked "is it wicked not to care?" more than i had thought, also that i liked symour stein a lot more when a summer wasting hasn't made me impatient for dirty dream #2, same with chick factor and simple things and so on. or, on IYFS, that "stars of track & field" doesn't really work for me as an album opener, that "iyfs" itself works better somewhere else &c. and basically, although storytelling hasn't got so many great songs on than some of the others, basically it always seems a much more coherent album to me than anything since perhaps tigermilk, simply because of the way it's composed. (of course, the dialogue bits help with that too). anyway, i could carry on with this for a while, and like i said, i would have liked to experiment a little more before sending this, but i was just wondering what thoughts other people had on this? one day i would also like to write something on how i think it's strange that b&s have so many great album-closers, but so few really good openers, but i'll save that for some content in another post (consider this fair warning!) well, sorry if this is long and boring. have fun everybody! love JohaN +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From theboywiththemiddleeasternstrap at xxx.uk Thu Aug 15 15:09:46 2002 From: theboywiththemiddleeasternstrap at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Thomas=20Henderson?=) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:09:46 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: never a puss in boots again! Message-ID: <20020815140946.16131.qmail@web20601.mail.yahoo.com> hey everybody! so that's it all over, ,no more shitty job in boots! i hate the frickin factory. it's made my life boring, and it's made me think about things too. working from 4:30 - 10:30 monday to thursay and 11pm - 3 am on friday and saturday and maybe wednesday or thursday too isn't fun. i've spent my summer wasting, just sitting around trying to beat manky marks record (wink) by the way check out casarotto's blog. so next week i'm starting studying at stow. electric honey a go-go, which reminds me that i want an original starfighter pilot single by polar bear (snow patrol) so if anyones gota spare.......... i'm starting an electric honey collection i think i have one already, and last years output of police chief seems like a sensible buy, but i haven't bought it yet. now for the fortnightly question (ie not weekly anymore) which band had to change their name temporarily as a result of the gulf war, they had to remove a part of their name and on record sleeve simply taped over the part of the name they had to remove? go on guess. on the subject of the quiz thing our winners will be recieving prizes soon (honest) look forward to next rounds of said quiz for the sam neil and tibet rounds coming up. ok so apparently is joint sinister/ michael grant birthday events soon. so ummmm pub anyone? pre-popleague-picnic/pubnic? it's your call michael. on the subject of name dropping, ,ken chus always doing it isn't he? and no matter how much he goes on neil robertson still hasn't said anything about treasure hunt clue answers. recently amykins thought i was the boy g, sorry for the confusion. i think idleberry phoned the boy g once in edinburgh, but i may have been mistaken because i was talking to pigtails, but all that was forgotten by a few months later in the tap in glasgow and then we don't even say anything about sweetie..... if anyone wants to help i've got a month to save up and buy a white capri with a black felt roof for gav partick. maybe ally or lucy will see him before i do and talk him out of his demands, i think sarahluv wants the capri too, that's why he's so insistant. red bulls and rip-offs thomas x. ps: why did i write some of that in the style of chu? ps2: is quite a good console but x-box is better aparently __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Thu Aug 15 19:23:07 2002 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: RED K(e)NICKER DAY LOS ANG(chu)LES Message-ID: <20020815182307.57543.qmail@web40311.mail.yahoo.com> Hiya Sinister! Ben and I were talking about how we should try to have some sort of Red Knicker Day picnic here in the Los Angeles area. We have cooked up a loose plan surrounding the Los Angeles Galaxy soccer match at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena on Saturday, August 31st. We can meet there with our food items and our red knickers on, find a nice shady knoll to relax on and then get tickets to watch our local team and cheer them on in wannabe Brit football hooligan style. It really was a lot of fun when we did a picnic capped off with soccer last month, so if you live in the L.A. area and you're interested in joining us, please feel free to send me an email so we can firm up the plans. This also could be your last chance to meet the charming Ben Apps in person before he returns to London on September 15th, so don't miss out! Everyone is welcome! :) love, Rachel fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Thu Aug 15 19:42:47 2002 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Caitlin Pigtails) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 19:42:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: not gold, not silver... Message-ID: <20020815194247.K21891@candle.btinternet.com> Ken said something in the chatroom: what sort of anniversary is a fifth anniversary? I mean, we know a 50th anniversary is a golden jubilee and a 25th anniversary is a silver jubilee. So what's a fifth anniversary? The answer, it appears (according to Google, at least), is: a fifth anniversary is a Wood Jubilee. So, if you want to send Honey a present to mark Sinister's fifth birthday, you know what you have to do. You have to Get Wood. Ahem. Incidentally, I've probably mentioned it before, but this is one of my favourite posts of the last five years. Probably because it's about the place where I walk to work every day. http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199803/msg00011.html And it's quite funny too. Earlier today, I was out shopping with Idleberry in preparation for the Camera Obscura gig tomorrow (is anyone going? I hope so). We were in Topshop admiring their corduroys, when a shop-worker brushed passed, stopped, and pointed at Idles' "Study At Stow" tshirt. "Belle and Sebastian!" he said, and started talking to us about music for five minutes. He ended up offering to make Idles a Smiths mixtape, I think, but only if she goes back to Topshop in the three days left before he runs away to become a monk, or something. It was all a bit bizarre really. This definitely didn't take fifteen minutes. I am contrite. love caitlin -- http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/ Sinister Recipe Tree archives: http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/sinifood/ (and yes, the questionnaire is still somewhere on the site but I keep forgetting to update it) "When life gives us lemons, we just sit there and sulk about it, in the corner of the room, in a fetal position." - Matthew Henderson, on the Sinister mailing list. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From theboywiththemiddleeasternstrap at xxx.uk Thu Aug 15 20:17:16 2002 From: theboywiththemiddleeasternstrap at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Thomas=20Henderson?=) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 20:17:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: sinister winners Message-ID: <20020815191716.46640.qmail@web20605.mail.yahoo.com> hello todays winners are richard gillanders (again) kieran devaney (again) and ian watson (first time) the answer to the question was massive attack who shortened their name to massive ian said - "Easy. Massive Attack, innit. "Crash" by The Primitives suffered some playlist problems as well, I seem to remember. Although that didn't stop them committing credibility suicide by playing it on Wogan. Just 12 years too early. Now he's the height of cool, of course." kieran said- "In order to not appear as though they condoned America's actions in the middle east, Bristol trip-hop luminaries Massive Attack became just Massive during the gulf war." richard said - "massive attack" this weeks unlucky entrant is mr/(s) caitlin pigtails who was correct but just a little late. anyway all i need to say is that this farce has to stop, will someone please bring mr. jeremy breams back, he belongs here, the jokes over now, just get him back ok. shoutouts to brian of the mcneil family. whens the film festival happening? thomas x. ps: kieran should win double because he used the word luminaries who is surely a character in disneys beauty and the beast, he was a french candleabra __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vilkas at xxx.com Fri Aug 16 05:45:23 2002 From: vilkas at xxx.com (vilkas) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 00:45:23 -0400 Subject: Sinister: If you wash your ass you must use soap. Message-ID: Yo kids, I start my NEW JOB tomorrow at a mobile phone call center in the suburbs. I HATE the suburbs. Ahhh but this job will pay my rent, my bills, my student loans and keep me stocked in sneakers and beer. Provided I have the patience to last past training. Sorry, I don't think there's enough fucking cursing or fucking smut in this Goddamned post for all you cunts and fucking bastards. Yesterday it was in the 100s. Uh huh. And the air quality was a purple. PURPLE! Green means good air. Yellow means not so good, but not all that bad. Red means the very young, the very old, and those with comprimised immune systems ought to stay indoors. Purple is one step beyond this. And I'm not even gonna go on a rant about the causes of the poor air quality; because after all, I am writing this on an electrically powered plastic box. or as Lucy Alder called it, a tappity light box. Which is the best word I've ever heard a computer called. So I'll stop complaining...sort of. Ok. I wrote this last winter and it's been held hostage by my computer until very recently. I thought I would post it even though it's 10 months later because the apocolypse is apparently upon us. >From Last Winter: Ok. I did 6 toploaders of laundry today, funnily enough dealing with the washing machines is like the band of the same name, Toploader; it's not so pleasant to be around either of them but it's nice when it's over. Naw, I like the Dancing in the Moonlight song, but that's a good song no matter who sings it. Still no excuse for the rest. I ran into one of my friends in the middle of folding the fabric mountain. (lovely, lime green again, clean bathmats included) (An entire backpack full of socks, underwear and bras included) He was washing his clothes too, y'know being in the laundromat and all. We knew each other's faces from seeing each other out and about, but we didn't properly meet until piss-drunk at 4 A.M. on our mutual friend's third floor back porch; hiding from the much drunker-than-us, one-eyed guy with the fireworks. Hey you in the back stop snickering, there were about six of us on the porch. Ok, that doesn't sound any better...But there was no booty. Until he left. And at that point, there were just three of us up there. Ahhh...but still only full leg footsie and cuddling, sorry to dissapoint. But I digress. The conversation went on, no use boring you any more than already with details. We ended up talking about the weather, but not in that can't-think-of-anything-to-talk-about-so-let's-talk-about-the-weather way. Because the weather here is a son-of-a-bitch and worthy of bitching. The last few days of November and indeed most of the month, it was 70 degrees Farenheit. What up with that? Global Warming. Satan is living on Earth, in Richmond, Virginia, home of Marlboro ciggies. This being Satan's residance might explain a lot more about Richmond than the freaky weather. Now it's in the 30s-40s Farenheit at night and maybe 40s-50s during the day. This is somewhat more acceptable; but still unacceptable. I'd like have a talk with Mother Nature, but I guess she's still busy doing guest appearances on talk shows to promote further syndication of The Smurfs or summat. It's Fucking December! It's supposed to be cold as ass now. I know I'm in Virgina, but I grew up in Virginia and when I was young it was cold as ass in December. Granted, I was deep in the mountains, but only an hour and a half away from where I am now. There was SNOW. Dammit. I WANT SNOW. Most around here that I talk to about this Satanic weather pattern love the warm weather in winter. I think they're insane. They ought just move to Florida or some state closer to the equator, where it's *supposed* to be warm. Ah, I digress again. But it was essential to explain why it was so cool, that when we started talikng about the weather, we agreed. I was speaking of thinking of moving to Chicago. The topic of cold-ass winters came up. Y'know, we both agree that you can kit yourself out in loads of warm things, coat, scarf, hat, earmuffs, gloves, balacava, thermal underwear, etcetera. But you can only take off so much. You can't take your skin off. Well, you can, but this would really hurt and would prolly kill you and that would not be cool. Summer here is when your sorry ass can be naked, sitting still, in the shade...and you're still hot. We went off. It was nice to find someone who feels the same. Daaaaaam, I'm being petty *and* I've completely lost the plot. But Ihate the Hot. Wasabi is hot, tabasco sauce is hot, clubs are hot; these are all good versions of hot. Imagine eating wasabi, made with tabasco sauce, in the middle of a jumpin' basement club. Whilst wearing a polarfleece catsuit. For three to five months straight. Right, that's summer in Virginia. Last time I was in Scotland, an evening when I was out with a friend; when I said I came for the weather, one of her friends asked me, "Why did you come here of all places for the weather?" as if I had come to erm...Pluto. My response that I'd stick with today was "Cos it's not hot." I hate the Hot. I love sunshine but I hate the hot. On that same trip, I was sitting with my friend Colin and his friend Richie in a beer garden relatively near Colin's Bearsden hizouse. Richie was complaining that it never gets warm. Uh huh. Same argument, you can put more clothing on, you can only take so much off. At least it doesn't stay hot. At least the sun isn't trying to kill you. [shakes fist at sun. Naw,it's more than the sun; it's our foolishness at how we treat our planet...another post...naw, another book] Luv, Skillkas cos Vilkas got Skills P.S.1. Any of yous know anything about the Centimeters? P.S.2. Or Discount? Try typing "Discount" into google. I didn't find the band but lots of Viagra! Mortgaes! Porn! Diamonds! X-Box: A quote from a German wesite that sells Irn-Bruuuuu: Irn Bru is the Scottish " national lemonade ". Their typical taste, which reminds easily of liquid Gummibaerchen, remains for everyone in memory, which it drank once. It is according to sales figures in the western world the only soft drink, which is better sold on the domestic market than a well-known, koffeinhaltige lemonade from the USA. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From theboywiththemiddleeasternstrap at xxx.uk Fri Aug 16 06:13:01 2002 From: theboywiththemiddleeasternstrap at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Thomas=20Henderson?=) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 06:13:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: me bitching then some content, a neil robertson quote then some inuendo and general mankiness Message-ID: <20020816051301.56374.qmail@web20601.mail.yahoo.com> hello, sorry about the language in the subject line but i only really speak english. i'm so incredibly fucked off this morning, and i don't mind telling you all that i've severely been made a cunt of by a (supposed) friend and employer. you may have heard me bang on about my aspiration to entertain the masses musically through the medium of deejaying. well..... i've been with this new company for some months now. a while ago i was told that i was wanted to take on more work because (not being sexist) the girls couldn't really cut it (no offence lucy cos i know you're great ;) ) so i was suppose dto be the top dj person in this company after the two main ones (who own the fucking thing) then i was told someone else would be joining, ,i knew he'd worked for them before and that is lips and one of the bosses asses were no strangers to each other. so obviuosly i was worried that i would be losing any opperchancity to do anything. i was reassured to the contary. so....... the company get this new "unit" a pub somewhere or other were they need to supply djs. they only want the main two (derek and ian) to do it, which is fair enough but would mean that our own pub needed someone on friday and saturday night. i thought that to be fair me and other bloke (kanga) would get a night each.. but no, kanga gets both nights and a night in this new "unit". then tonight i find out that he's getting a night in the club once a month, cunt. i'm getting fuck all, they think that i only listen to 'depressing indie music' and that that's all i'd play, wankers. so i was told that basically i was there until they got a new unit that asked for someone who could play indie music, which would be fair enough if they were inundated with business. then tonight my boss starts trying to rip the cunt/ take the piss right out of me. so now i'll be actively seeking new employment, i've had some offers but they were either one-offs or way in the future. the point is that i work for a wanker who i thought was an ok guy, fair enough he was drinking but he was totally out of line, tosser. so the point is (tenuous link to content) i want to be free to play belle and sebastian whenever i choose because they're fantastic and i'd much rather be drunk and hugging my mates to the boy with the arab strap than to the proclaimers i wanna be (500 miles) or dancing away like a soul boy to electronic renaisance than to castles in the fucking sky. i'm angry and i think it's justified. i'm being persocuted for my passions, ,fuckers, cunts. i'm learning all my swearingness from mr. robertson, you may have noticed, and to quote him i'm going to say that my boss is a "lanky streak of piss" and anothwer thing we played this game called sex positions and me and this girl siobhan came second (note inuendo) with 25 positions and the winner got 36 positions because they were cheating because they knew the girl who was counting them, even if they hadn't at least i've done all 25 (too much information) and i know that they all work! luv thomas x. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Fri Aug 16 13:28:35 2002 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:28:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Mathematics and Laundry Message-ID: Darlings, Shouts out to The Birmingham Massive! Greetings to Carl and grumblings to Naughty Ian (I'm in the Archel crew, I think. A NUN in a CUPBOARD?). The Loved One and I spent a wonderful day in Birmingham yesterday, doing loads of cultural shit (and getting told off for playing with the exhibits. The Loved One *hearts* interactivityness. Or something. Apparently art is not a toy, it's Art). We also sneaked into the Sea Life centre without paying - shushhhh! But �8.50 is a bit steep for gawping at some manta rays and jelly fish - and watched the otters getting fed and listened to squalling children. I wanted one of the disturbed sharks to bite the hand off some small brat who kept putting his hand in the water. Honestly. I ask you. Etc. Vilkas said "Anyone know anything about centimeters?" which is one of the best questions I've ever been asked, cos I know LOADS about them. They're quite small, but not as small as a millimeter (10 of them make one centimeter), so in some ways they're quite big, but not as big as a meter (there's a whole 100 centimeters in one of them!). They're dead useful for knowing how big things are and stuff. Or something. I appear on examination to know less about centimeters than I thought. All this collective list nostalgising is much fun. Stevie's post was simply wonderful, and I fished out a few old ink polaroids of my own. Look! This was taken in February. Paul Field and Stacey and Archel and I are in Brighton, walking from the station to the beach, where a rowdy crowd (and Liz's cakes) await us. My hair is obscuring my face, due to a strong wind, and there are tears in my eyes as I see the sea for the first time in years. Stacey is bouncing a little in her excitement and Paul is staring off into the distance. Here's another one - it's a bit smoky, like, but if you look closely you'll see that I'm in a basement club in London. It's How Does It Feel To Be Loved. Behind me, on the dance floor, shaking their stuff to prime Northern Soul, you can make out Marianna and Greg and Ken and Mr and Mrs Carmile. Sarah GS's elegant foot is poking out from behind a pillar. I'm being hugged by Mark Casarole, and if you look closely, there's a slight blush on my face. Mark will not be reminded of why until lunch the next day. And here's yet one more. The sun is shining, and I'm standing in my back garden, pegging my freshly laundered RED bucket pants on the line, ready for their special trip to London in a week or so. My pants and I will see you there. Regards, Madeleine _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From theres_too_much_love at xxx.com Fri Aug 16 13:48:01 2002 From: theres_too_much_love at xxx.com (michael grant) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:48:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: selling tshirts, stalking stuart murdoch, 'the boy', breaking DDR and more...... Message-ID: sha-sha! hello everyone. how's things? good i hope. :o) camera obscura are playing a gig in edinburgh tonight. but more importantly than that, i am selling tshirts. and possibly cds. and possibly badges. how cool is that? i followed stuart murdoch down byres road yesterday. does that make me a bad man? he walked past me, and i just kinda turned round and followed him back up the street. i know it's an obsessive stalker thing to do, but i just couldnt help myself. he turned up roxburgh street and i thought to follow him all the way up there might be taking things a tad too far. should i go to reading? i can't really afford it, although i have already bought my ticket and my friends have offered to pay train fare and accommodation for my birthday, but.... it's just an expense i can't deal with right now. and i'd rather stay home and be in slightly less debt than go away and have a crap weekend moaning about having no money. and i can go see the moldy peaches in glasgow that weekend anyway (miss kimya dawson put me on the guestlist, *namedrop* *namedrop*). so does anyone want a weekend ticket for reading? a month later than originally planned, i met 'the boy' last night. to talk. it was lovely. we just chatted for hours. it's so bizarre to feel this way about someone, yet to feel so comfortable in their presence. now i'm just giving him a chance to have a think. even though he knew what i was going to say, he said that having it out in the open fucked with his head a bit. he said i made him smile. he said i made him feel awkward, and that was a good thing. he said he was going to be bruised today from grinning so much. it was wonderful. i'm still expecting the 'i'm flattered, but...' speech when he's done with his thinking, but i'm much less sure about it now than i was this time yesterday. but i don't want to get ahead of myself. :o) thomas asked about my birthday pre-popleague drinking. hmmm, it's a friday, so a daytime picnic will probably be out of the question, seeing as some of you people have proper jobs. fools. pewter pot across the road from the WSC at 7? will that do? if anyone desperately feels the need for a picnic, then we can meet in the botanics earlier on, but only if it's sunny. **ink polaroid** this one was taken in a pub on cockburn street in edinburgh this april. a boy, having just spat mashed-up cookies over the shoes of a norwegian girl, is clambering over tables and chairs to get to the bar. as he does so, his ass is being grabbed by a dirty australian, among others. everyone is laughing, smiling and being drunkenly merry. **ink polaroid** i tried to tell the boy about you last night, but i just couldnt find the words. it just doesnt do you justice to say, "an internet mailing list for belle and sebastian fans". does anyone know of a decent way to get across the *sparkle* of sinister to the uninitiated? i broke a DDR machine. woops. :o) my dancing is just too funky. apparently they're waiting for a new part for the machine, but are still letting people dance on it. fools. right, i'm off to learn the camera obscura album word for word so i can shout along tonight, hopefully see lots of you there, michael.xx (rocking his AC/DC pants off.) ps - listen to ben kweller. - listen to maher halal shash baz. - listen to nico. - listen to darius. ;o) "get out of your apartment. meet a member of the opposite sex. stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. quit your job. start a fight. prove your alive. if you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic." - tyler durden. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mail at xxx.uk Sat Aug 17 04:05:52 2002 From: mail at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 04:05:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: it's not just candles that are aflame Message-ID: <001b01c2459b$0051bf40$aa8e87d9@ivorsserver> Stuart Murdoch Saves Damsel in Distress! Hey kids, he was there in an instant, a flash! Camera Obscura were mid-set at Edinburgh's *The Venue* this evening, sweet tunes all of them: good enough to sing to yer grannie as, indeed, Ms. Tracyanne (?) announced she was... anyway, it was all harmony and magnificent bass playing until one particularly boorish lass, who'd been heckling all the other bands with unchoice and bellicose drivel reached a point in her battle plan (her head went 'kerlunk', possibly) and decided now was the occasion to experiment with projectiles. I was standing pretty much next to the stage but only noticed the aftermath of what we must assume was a direct hit as the music stopped, chanteuse stormed off stage (a dignified retreat, actually) and the now sodden lyrics to a new number lay scattered by her mike stand and... ENTER Mr.Murdoch, from the rear of the auditorium, all efficient gusto as he demanded the immediate expulsion of the boor from the premises. 'We were just going anyway' she blared petulantly (sorry,only one 'l' this time Ms.Llew: you'd have been dismayed by this lassie's lack of wit or comportment) as she was let to leave amongst much jeering and muttering of 'poor show' or words to that effect. Thankfully, and to general applause, the Camera Obscura returned onstage to delight us with a rendition of 'I want to go home'. Apt under the circumstances, for them, but we didn't, because their music was fine. Fine! Yes it was. The next sighting of the Belle and Sebastian man (content, see, although I'm beginning to struggle, albeit in a twee key) is outside the venue; The Venue as he is returning from a white van parked around the corner there to fulfil it's role as receptacle; vessel; indeed, *chora* for musical gear. I catch his eyes and he looks completely human, but I'm no stalker, really, so I avert my eyes towards a handy car bonnet: a neat vehicle in dark blue, as far as memory and sodium streetlighting permits me to describe it, which happens to be owned by a member of... Camera Obscura. Anyway, I'm admiring this automobile in the abstract as Stuart stops behind me to while away some moments in semi-English with a couple of Japanese tourists who recognise him. Pop star, sound man, bouncer, general cultural ambassador... Meanwhile, for this bonnet also has multiple talents, Michael and I have taken to displaying Camera Obscura merchandise on it: two petite and desperately un-ironed T-shirts, a box of CD singles and a few copies of their latest album for a tenner a throw (but don't throw them!). Michael is capitalising on his experience as a record shop employee to offload what becomes a grand total of three items. I, on the other hand, put my experience as an offloader of capital to use in purchasing one of said three items: it's a shiny new copy of 'Your Sound'. It doesn't have *your* sound on it Carey (occasional sinisterine and now 'synthesiser woman' of Camera Obscura): we'll have to wait for the next single for that. Sinister birthdays. Sunday's the day, is it? I remember my first red knicker day a couple of years ago .I'd just arrived back from a short trip to Greece. After a picnic in Greenwich park, I'd eventually made it back to my hotel room: an absurdly opulent affair; all swagged velvet, brocade and watered silk, rented cheap off the internet. It was late at night. Very late, and I was all tired and emotional and playing with fire of various sorts, the most obvious manifestation of which was the flaming end of a rolled up copy of that day's *Times*, as I attempted to conjure up a further greeny-blue flame from a by now dribbling teaspoonful of absinthe-soaked sugar. To be honest, it was all getting rather out of control in the pyrotechnics, but I was moping over the fact that no-one had actually got to *see* my red underwear (Sloggi, in case you were wondering). The briefs were vintage then, and have since been consigned to the dustbin. I can only attend navy knicker days now. Tonight I haven't been indulging in anything so potent as absinthe. In fact, contrary to what folks might think, my posts of late have been written in a state addled by no more than a bewilderment as to why I'm writing words at all rather than, say, watching television or shopping for... red knickers. Cigarillos are my poison of late. I bought two little card boxes of them from a tobacconist's on the Lawn Market before the gig this evening: Zino 'Sumatras' and -pricey these- 'Hoyo de Monterreys'. The shopkeeper kindly provided me with a mini and mobile humidor in the form of a self-sealing plastic bag, especially seeings as the latter brand tend to dry up rather quickly. As usual, it's the posh stuff (real Cuban tobacco) that has the shortest shelf-life. 'Burning twice as bright but half as long' to paraphrase Rutger Hauer in Blade Runner, although if you pursue that analogy with any enthusiasm you'll find it perplexing in that I was alluding to the longevity of the cigarillo in the unlit state. Anyway (you'll forgive my using the word 'anyway' rather a lot, along with colons, semi-colons (mostly inappropriately and, indeed, interchangeably) parentheses, qualifications, meanderings... ellipses and -the real killers, these- other words and figures of which I am, but you will not be, unaware). Anyways (bleh!) when not imbibing alcohol these sumatras and monterreys kick quite a punch. Ahem. One becomes distinctly high. During this evening's music I felt light as air and, even though my feet were aching with all the standing up, the rest of me was flying. A pleasant, quite delicately narcotic, sensation. That is until afterwards, when with no music or company to buoy me up I crashed back down into a small crater of the soul. It took me a whole train journey to get back on track (groan). Maybe I was tired, too: still subconsciously engineering the state of being 'tired and emotional'. Still, it didn't last long: it must have been a quality bit of misery. So, I'll take my cue from Stevie Trousers' brilliant post to end this one with some brief thoughts. Actually, I've already done that bit (groan, apologies etc.). So, I'll take my cue from Stevie Trousers' brilliant post to end this one with some thoughts about what sinister has meant to me over these past few years. It's become a big part of my life. I've bought all the Belle and Sebastian albums. I rarely listen to them (only kidding, almost). It keeps me up at night (it's 03:31: whoever suggested posting takes fifteen minutes is either very clever to write with such speed and cogency or is spouting nonsense. Perhaps they avoid words like 'cogency', which has me, at least, reaching for the dictionary to double-check, but I like to maintain an expanding vocabulary). Sinister posts are often what I wake up to, in the absence of a woman to keep me entertained with sexy chit chat before breakfast. I spend longer than is healthy on #sinister, but it's been a great source of companionship to me. I love you lot. And for those of you in the more far flung reaches of sinisterland; those of you who do not regularly get the chance, for whatever reason, to attend 'picnics' and who may be forgiven for thinking some of us are really cliquey and have all the fun making private allusions to one another: I've found that the real revelations; the most affecting stories; perhaps even the truest of friendships, are those that have been cultivated and remain by means of the content sent to this here mailing list. Honey has done a marvellous thing by setting up and maintaining a mailing list with a unique atmosphere and whilst the rest of us make sinister what it is on a daily basis, it was Honey's genius to mould it so. I realise I don't need to tell you this, but it's my own pre-amble to saying THANK YOU HONEY! There. I can bugger off to annoy the Americans on #sinister now. Gordon x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From applekins at xxx.com Sat Aug 17 09:41:20 2002 From: applekins at xxx.com (amy longcore) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 04:41:20 -0400 Subject: Sinister: sin and ister united Message-ID: gosh, sinister, i have a big crush on you. so many lovely lovely posts have come this way. here's to five MORE years and on... my little picture looks something like this: i'd just moved back into my folks. i'm sitting at my brother's computer talking to courtney owen on aol IM. she's telling me all about sinister and how i should join. ya know, she's still on, but she's never ever posted. hi courtney :) i look at missprint.org and i'm quite taken. but i'd just been gettin' used to this internet thing, TO BE FAIR, and really only had the red album to speak of. my internet life had been hectic enough! heh. i think the green album had just come out maybe? i'm quite sure i was listening to stereolab, as i was about 65% of my time, back then. i'm smoking cigarettes and have my hair in a bun. i'm tired after a long day of work. i clicked off of missprint.org and went back to my email. yes, a boring snapshot. girl at computer. but, it was my first glimpse in... i didn't join until... last september? almost a year now anyway. i kept loving belle and sebastian, and my fondness grew deeper with time. each song sweeter with every listen. soon i'm blasting them and singing along full stop. my brother thinks "get me away from here i'm dying" is such a wrist slasher. he mocks it so. i keep it playin'. i know better. brother called 'em "sad bastard music" before jack black ever did. it's true. when we saw HIGH FIDELITY in the theatre, we laughed for about 15 straight minutes after jack cracked that joke. jack was so like my brother there. even used his line. yeesh. i've turned some other people on to them. most recently, my friend adam. i need to pace it tho. i got him into the smiths a few months ago, and you don't wanna know the newfound MOZ passion i've had to endure from this boy. i bought JOHNATHAN DAVID for adam, but it was stolen, along with all his other cds, not long ago. this was a sad story. i miss all the sinister people i've met. people keep talking about ivor cutler now. people also keep talking about fallen dreams. ugh. don't remind me. i think i'm gonna go ahead and get an APPLE TATTOO. uh huh. just a little apple. not unlike myself. the applecore. it's all quite silly, which satisfies. i wanted to interject on some current discussions, but i haven't the fuel at the moment. just know, that if i were sharing a drink with you, over a pub table or at a couch in some sinister living room, i'd be conversing with so many of you and reveling in your bright thoughts. well. i don't really need the drink. that just seems appropriate is all. the peel tracks are great! <-- $0.02 it's true. every day i make my way through the streets of your town... love, amy, maddie's flower and archel's maykins p.s. now that ken has beaten his queery into the ground, might i do the same with mine? WHAT'S UP WITH THE RACHELS MIX TAPE? i cannot wait for it to get into ken's dirty little paws! p.p.s. thanks linda & honey, big cans of glam to you! "rrobyn fadden has the BEST electronic mail sign off ever! i'll never tire of it!" ~amy longcore _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sat Aug 17 12:48:28 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 04:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Like Elvis, in the movies Message-ID: <20020817114828.31649.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinisterians (sinister ians? no all of you i mean.) THE WEEK I'm not feeling to coherent in thought this morning, so a random collection of thoughts from the vaults of the mind: Tuesday: saw two girls wandering round Edinburgh in t- shirts and knickers and high heels while out for my lunch. ************** Thursday: saw Elvis, handing out flyers. I took one and he said "thanyew veery much, uh huh". ************** Friday: saw a man climb into an overnight bag and zip himself into it. ***************** Also saw Camera Obscura gig, Gordon has reported on. Thought Tracey Anne was going to cry at one point, after the splashing incident. It must be hard actually, I mean, you play a gig, and you're playing to a crowd like that, and you've probably been feeling nervous for a while, and hoping it goes without a hitch. Managing to cope with the heckles of some ridiculous woman with bad hair and AWFUL make up in the audience, by brushing it off and turning the other cheek, and standing in front of two hundred pairs of eyes watching you. Playing songs, that you think are good, and hope are good, and meet the expectations of the paying punters standing in front of you expecting to be entertained. Then to get water (I presume it was water, I dunno) thrown at you, while you're busy concerntrating on your song, and having those eyes watching you on stage, in a hot, sweaty venue, theres the initial shock factor I can imagine as it hits you. You know the shock you've had yourselves probably, when someone splashes you with cold water, when you least expect it, and how your natural reaction is one of shock and suprise, out of some sort of defensive thing inside you. Then theres all the gear on stage- your guitars, your belongings, your electrical stuff, your cables, your pedals, getting a soaking. Things you've saved up for and paid for, and stuff that belongs to you. Your possessions, your belongings, expensive items too- not just a jacket, or a bag getting a pint spilt over it, but some deliberately malicious, unprovoked action of some neanderathal cave woman, against you, and your guitar, and your friends. One stupid woman, one ridiculously bad make-up bitch, who the hell did she think she was. That silly cow in the audience. The glares from the crowd, I thought someone was going to lynch her at one point. Thought Mr Murdoch was damn professional at not loosing his cool, and hats off to him for dealing with the situation effectively, promptly, and as calmly as anyone possibly could have. Fair play to the band. ********** Met with Mark last night. We went to the gig and when we came back to mine we went for a walk and saw a fox, out in the park. It was a big fox, a big fox, maybe a boy fox. His tail was long and slim, and he trotted along the path cool as could be with a slight arrogant foxiness about him, and didn't seem fazed by us sitting there watching him. I've never seen a fox round here before. Then I saw a frog, crossing the bridge. Had to be careful, its dimly lit around those paths near my home, and theres lots of folliage thats fallen onto the path. Was worried about standing on little animals and squishing them. Its a fear of mine. I remember when I was 16, and went for a walk with this girl who wanted to be a goth. She was into vampires and velvet, and books about witch craft. We went for a walk, and I noticed two seconds too late to stop her, as she stood on a toad, and I looked back and its little squashed body had flipped upside down. I teased her about having little toad eyeballs on the bottom of her Doc Martens. I found a dead mouse when I was 14. I was about to wash my dads car for him to earn myself some extra pocket money. I went into the garage and found a bucket. There was water in it, and what looked like a stick floating in the water. Just as I went to prod it with my finger, I realised it was a drowned mouse. I screamed. I felt sorry for that little mouse. It had probably fallen into the bucket, and drowned from exhaustion, in the darkness, unable to get out. And that idea haunted me for weeks. ********** End transmission. love idles xx ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ssonner at xxx.com Sat Aug 17 14:14:32 2002 From: ssonner at xxx.com (Sarah Garrett Sonner) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 13:14:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: what's your middle name? I haven't got one! Message-ID: (IF ON A SUMMER'S DAY A TRAVELER) Petals, What's your name? Who's your daddy? It's the time of the season for hauling my stuff thousands of miles away to move to a new place, as some of y'all are also doing. My road trip west (from Maryland to Colorado) begins this very day, and I'm fucking scared to drive so far, so I thought I'd take a second of it to think about the things that we have done these past years. Ah, listalgia has been upon me like ink on a polaroid. Ooh, here's one... THE BEST THING EVER Here we are on my last evening in London, on top of Primrose Hill, where the heat of the day has gone and the light is rapidly fading. A fierce playoff of portable, battery-operated air hockey is being fought between Greg and Ken, punctuated by their ladylike noises of distress. Liz (she's multilingual, you know) has just said "more tea, vicar?" and proferred beverages in the classiest of all plastic glasses. Marianna and Stevie and recently deported David are lounging on the grass, talking of sandwiches and songs that stick in their heads and other pleasant things, while I am scanning the skyline and counting all the London monuments I neglected to see in the past year, resolving I'll come back to find them all somehow. This picture is underexposed... THE COLOR OF RED A little while ago Paul wondered: "Also, if its red knicker day soon, is there going to be else to be on the 5th birthday?" And I respond: red shoes! They are the answer for many things: gloomy moods, fashion dilemmas...general lack of, er, redness... Really though, they're the perfect accessory. (Miss Longmire, can I get an amen!) And if they match nothing else, they'll match your pants. It's the way I plan to honor this list's grand oh five and my own grand oh three in this parish. Hmm, that means my time with this list has lasted longer than most other quantifiable things (terms of residence, schools attended, significant others, pairs of shoes) in my life to date...really it is like a romantic thing in that maybe people post goodbyes to grasp at a sense of closure--to get the last word or something. But haven't we all learned by now that CLOSURE DOES NOT EXIST...eh, right? WITH A SHOWER OF YEAHS AND WHATEVERS I've been spending afternoons listening to old tapes--homemade ones, not proper bought tapes. I've been rediscovering such puzzling gems as the one where I copied the self-titled Velvet Underground on one side and Cypress Hill's "Black Sunday" on the other, and discovering that I have a copy of the Nails' "88 lines about 44 women." I have also learned that the Revolting Cocks' cover of "Da ya think I'm sexy" rocks like it did when I was 17. And after all this sonic revisiting of my younger years I've come to the conclusion that the kinetic energy that propelled me through an eclectic variety of music has come to rest mostly on "indie" for the past several years, and this is probably where it will stay. It's a bit nice to have settled...and Anna in Germany, I don't think it's wrong or offensive to say when bands that you care about disappoint--that's what happens (to me at least) when I care about something: when I think it's not as good as it could be, I want it to be better, and there's nothing wrong with saying so. (Unless (like easily embarrassed me, ugh) you unthinkingly say it to a reporter outside a gig who then publishes your drivel with your awful picture for all to guffaw at...eep.) PEELING I haven't heard the Peel sessions yet but that's because I'm inept with the interweb. Instead I had fun imagining melodies to the lyrics that David Moore posted. My brain somehow unconsciously sang along to them while I read his message. It got especially fun when I would get to a question mark and imagine Stuart singing that into the song. Oh the life of the mind. FLYING OFF I had a poem all picked out, "How to like it" by Stephen Dobyns, what with autumn/fall around the bend and traveling impending, but the Poetry Parrot's gone all shy right when I had the appropriate thing to stuff up his beak. Pah, he taunts me so. Yours with transcontinental love, xox SGS PS:SWEETNESS And thanks to Honey creating this place-list-thing, I know much more than when I first toddled out of the nursery--like how to ice skate (cheers Jeremy)--and so many other fabulous people and things and places than I did before and that are too numerous and important to name cos I'll get teary and I have to see to drive in a few hours. So big hugs to Honey and Linda! _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Sat Aug 17 21:16:41 2002 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 08:16:41 +1200 Subject: Sinister: "I thought you were dead!" Message-ID: <000e01c2462b$6f9b9340$9f6237d2@computer> It occurs to me that it has been almost nine months since I last posted, which is a far cry from my one a week postings of 2000/2001. Sorry ... I am waaaay out of the Sinist*r loop. So ... prepare yourself for "Lawrence ... the wilderness years". I think the last time I posted, I'd just got back from my honeymoon in Hawaii. Which was lovely thank you. Thus far married life is good, although a little weird getting used to at first. I never really realised how cranky and stubborn I was, until I began living with someone equally cranky and stubborn. So then it was just work, and stuff ....... The most interesting thing which has happened is that I am now the company director of an indie record label! For the last year or so, me and two other guys have been talking about setting up an indie in the spirit of early Flying Nun, Elephant 6 and Postcard Records. So may I present ... "Lil' Chief Records" http://www.lilchiefrecords.com No releases as yet, but the debut album by The Brunettes, "Holding Hands, Feeding Ducks" should be out pretty soon. Plus we'll have a PayPal shopping cart if anyone overseas is interested in buying copies of the rather fine album. I'm the non-musical guy of the trio, the other two being Jonathan Brunette and Scott Mannion, who is also a Sinist*r listee. Don't know if there are any hardcore Peel devotees, but John Peel played a Brunettes sing some months ago on his show, shortly after coming home from New Zealand ... Speaking of which, I'm kinda amused with people mentioning The Datsuns and The D4 in recent posts. I really don't see the appeal, and can think of about half a dozen New Zealand bands who are so much better than either of those two, that would kill for that sort of exposure. (sigh). The Datsuns were the sort of local band who would usually put me off going to a live show here, because I'd know it would be full of greasy-haired guys with black jeans. Since I last posted, of course, Belle & Sebastian released an album. I reall y love it, and listen to it almost every day. But it took some getting used to, and part of me just wishes they'd taken the best songs from the last two EPs, paired them up with the "songs" from "Storytelling" and released a proper album. A few weeks ago I played "Fuck This Shit" at my church, and no one was any the wiser. I was sad about Jeepster ... I wonder how much longer Jeepster will go on for now ... but think Rough Trade will be a nice new home for B&S. I'm also hoping Jeepster will cash in on the bands' departure by released some sort of radio sessions album. Which reminds me, Niko .....would *love* those new Peel Sessions on CD! The other vaguely Sinist*r related thing was that listee Niko stayed with me and missus for a few days some months ago. it was lovely to meet another real live listee, and show him the sights of my rather boring city. Speaking of boring ... I should go. I really just wanted to say "hi" and "I'm still here", but wanted to disguise it in the form of something people might like to read. Take care everyone .... Lawrence xxx PS - another shameless plug .... I've just started an Orange Juice mailing list, for anyone interested in 80's Scottish pop. It only has a handful of members right now, but I'd love a few more, if there are any fans of Orange Juice, Edwyn Collins, Associates, Josef K etc. It's here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rip_it_up/ Or you can send a blank email message to: rip_it_up-subscribe at yahoogroups.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From intellectualvoid at xxx.com Sun Aug 18 03:38:52 2002 From: intellectualvoid at xxx.com (shannon eckardt) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 19:38:52 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Letter from the Core of the Sun Message-ID: Dear Sinisterines! It�s been so long! I feel like the lost sheep returning to it�s fold! RED KNICKER DAY EXTRAVAGANZA Just to let you know: I, for one, will be participating in Red Knicker Day. Although, I will be the only one to do so in Arizona, where pants are practically outlawed between the months of May and September. I am suitably insane enough, however, to a) tread the thin line between heatstroke and hypothermia, and b) be the only participant in my region. Phoenix is the sort of place where individuality is glaringly obvious, and gawked at. Which satisfies my insatiable need to shock, and makes the idea of being the sole Red Knicker bearer in the Valley quite appealing. Of course, if it were up to me, I�d make it a national holiday. Not enough holidays in this country, really. I mean, we don�t even have a Bank Holiday, or anything like Boxing Day. I find myself buying international calendars and privately celebrating Ascension Day. It�s a lonely job. OBSESSIONS So. Have you ever found yourself obsessing on, say��erm�.okay, a person who is quite different from you? Let�s just call him, um, mormon-boy. Opposites attract, right? Okay, so unfortunately I can�t control who I�m attracted to. That would be nice. In Shannon�s world it�s a distinct possibility, and a perk. But we�re not in Shannon�s world. (also, in said world, feather boas and sequins would be added to Red Knicker Day, as an augmentation). So�..moving on�..this boy (groan) doesn�t swear, and doesn�t smoke. Ugh! He�s a *nice* boy. He hasn�t expressed any immediate displeasure at the fact that I do both, in profusion. Not only am I a chain *smoker*, I�m a chain *swearer*, as well, I�ve discovered. I�m quite smutty, actually. From time to time. But earlier this week I caught a dim glimpse of a swearless, smokeless future, and it was dismal, let me tell you. So, I called off the wedding in my head and moved back toward reality. I think it was a good move. I said, �Fuck this!� Ha! it was a liberating statement, to be sure. It is only natural to swear. When it�s 115 outside, naughty words come to mind easiest, when you�re moved to speak. But, in the true spirit of obsession, for one evening of friendly billiards rivalry, I conducted an experiment - tenuously, but with determination. I decided to replace all the nasty words (that, let�s face it, fairly itch to come out when you�re doggedly playing pool) with the word, �crumb.� For example, when you choke on the eight ball for the second time leaving your opponent with a perfectly aligned shot for the side pocket, you would say, �Oh, crumb!� instead of �Oh, m**herf**cker!� You might imagine how well this worked out. In short, it didn�t. But I did discover what a dirty mouth I have. And since I almost immediately rescinded my sincere efforts to clean up, and be a good little girl, I have gone to the opposite end of the spectrum, and decided to be as creative as possible with my colorful language. I won�t repeat my creations. But they were good, if I do say so myself. DEIFICATION (not to be confused with defecation; there is a distinct difference, after all) There�s another boy (of course), and he truly is the saviour. He works at a record store, as is appropriate for a contemporary saviour. He just burned me a copy of his own Badly Drawn Boy�s �How Did I Get Here?� which is quite an expensive CD round these parts, and damn-near impossible to find. AND�..he burned me a copy of a B&S boot�..er. Well, let�s just say, not many folks have this one. (If you�d like to hear it yourself, send me an email off-list.) Oooo, he�s a doll! Something about that jet-black hair and wavy green tattoos� Well. (cough). Anyway. You can see why I�m moved to the idea of deification. I figure I�ll declare a day of celebration, much like the previously proposed, �Celebrate Your Gods!� Day, except it will be just for the Record Store Saviour. I�ll commission marble busts out of blue-veined Carrara marble and affix a diadem on his forehead, just like Caesar! I *did* mention I was given to excess, didn�t I? Right. Well, maybe I�ve gone too far, this time. But sometimes I think I�m a genius ;-) SPEAKING OF GENIUS�.. I had this brilliant idea, at about lunch time. See, I sit in my car sometimes at lunch, after my Red Bull run, to smoke and listen to music, and generally avoid the madding crowds. So, I�m sitting in my Beetle (her name is Gita; I was sure you wanted to know that) listening to �Wandering Alone,� reveling in the smooth magic of Stevie�s voice, laughing like an escaped lunatic, and it occurred to me, that Gita would look *fine* with a small disco ball hanging from her ceiling. The gentleman who happened to be sitting next to me (he�s another post altogether) assured me that he could arrange the electrical wiring so that it would sparkle, and that the natural movement of air in the car would make it spin, charmingly. It was a moment of temporary insanity. Suddenly I had visions of glow in the dark stickers littering the plush interior, and a fondue pot sizzling in the trunk, to be shared with friendly strangers at the drop of a hat. For the sake of convenience, my glove compartment would house neatly arranged condiments, and aesthetically arranged napkins. I have my moments. I don�t think this was one of them. MAKE IT THIS FAR, DID YOU? Oh, so many clever posts to comment on. I think I won�t. I think I�ll summarize: I�ve enjoyed the sudden resurgence of Ink Polaroid�s. They�re quite vivid. And the gratitude �round here is astounding. HONEY, love, you are revered! Ken Chu�s delicious wit is never amiss. And Gordon, I love your verbose soul! Never a dull moment in my Inbox, I tell you! Asm, you are *truly* my hero - your CD revival package is posted and somewhere over Nova Scotia, RIGHT NOW! I�m off! To bed! It�s late - or early. This is what I get for drinking too many Red Bulls. Sini-Love to All! S. p.s. Fifteen minutes? Pah! I�ve spent hours crafting this. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From staralful at xxx.com Sun Aug 18 10:06:02 2002 From: staralful at xxx.com (Jonathan Skinner) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 10:06:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: what do mean the bank is out of money Message-ID: hello sinister how is every little thing I hope this finds everyone well. I suppose i should first of all put some content in . Actully i can't think of any. Apart from the fact that are nice. there i hope you are all happy. *here i am at a wedding in an 80's style hotel on a lake. I am sat here at a big round table with a few cousins that i get on with watching the groom and his party croon the bride who is sat at the centre of the eternally empty dance floor with westlife* I think i may have mentioned earlier how much i hate weddings . Well i must now emphasise it with a capital H followed by a A closely followed by T tailed by a E . I was at my cousins wedding in Ballina yesterday and i can honestly say i have never ever ever been so bored in my life. We hada 2 hour car journey from where we were staying in Galway up this road that was apparntly the "main" road but was actully a country lane. After finally arriving we had a breakfast roll so so far the day wasn't too bad. THEN is went down heel from there. Got to the place of worship a KH(anybody?) if you will , and i didn't know anyone there. Except for my cousins that i get on with from one area of the family. After the service and we had gone up to congratulate the bride and groom we went to this dive of a country hotel where we had pretty plain food. THe only redeaming feature of the entire wedding was the grroms fathers ( my uncles ) speech. It managed to get the phrase " my wife and i got married and for 7 years nothing happened" and then he managed to get the word conception and birth canal into the next sentence which was rather nice and embarrasing. THe reception was dull with not many people and a MC that was trying hard to work with what little he had. AAAAANNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY the high point of my entire trip away wasWednesday. We went up to the cliffs of moher from galway and took the long long long way home which was nice. it was nice and sunny and stuff but there were many many tourists ( including someone from this list if i remember rightly- however i looked around and saw no tee shirts) the cliffs are really mad cos there is only a few hundred metres of them before the land scape goes back to normal. THere is one death a month into this 1000 ft drop. There is also a farm right next to the cliffs with cows grazing- i just wonder how many die each year- cows that is Another purpose of this email is to ask this. Guided by voices. are they worth seeing. they are playing cork this month and i wonder if it is worth picking up tickets. Um right i actully have run out of things to say but i will leave you with quote " women should never be so accurate about their age. IT looks too calculating " goodnight and godspeed j i can top shannon- this post was crafted in crafty way of 24 hours and it is none the btter for it , i am just a lazy lazy man +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coinmaster63 at xxx.com Mon Aug 19 01:02:07 2002 From: coinmaster63 at xxx.com (Reggie Whitecastle) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 17:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Sunday, Red Knickers Sunday Message-ID: <20020819000207.4528.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> Friends, While all of you will be celebrating Sinister's 5th anniversary together, cozy, in far-off places, I, too, will be silently celebrating over here in West Virginia in the good ol' US of A, all by myself. Although, of course, I do not plan to be very silent. Maybe I'll crank up the music and get loud and rowdy for once. My pets aren't likely to appreciate it, but certainly they'll understand. I was very much moved by Stevie Trumptour's post--even though I am a "newbie" I really am getting a feeling for how much Sinister means to everyone, and it's definitely forming a place in my heart, too! So, in the spirit of the latest Sinister trend, here are a few ink polaroids of my own: This one's a bit hazy and underdevloped. In the photo I have long hair hanging in my face and I am wearing my favorite wedding shorts. In the background stands my sister with cake all over her face and her husband grins, laughing, he too covered in cake. It's a cake fight! This one isn't so old, but when I look at it it brings back a very unfamiliar nostalgia. It's a picture of my ex-wife, asleep on the couch, in front of the television. It looks like Family Matters, or some other old show... yes, I can distinctly see Urkel in the background. Out of the corner of the photo you can see a mysterious hand.. it's my hand! Holding a feather, about to tickle my ex-wife's nose and stir her awake. There aren't a lot of photos of us after this one was taken. This one is quite recent. It's a picture of my two iguanas, Yoko and John, on the floor next to my stereo. Very close to them lays a copy of "If You're Feeling Sinister." Yoko and John don't think this is anything new because the album has been playing on the stereo for months practically. Marianna Longmire mentioned me in her post, and I was so excited to get a mention I practically started to blush. Do I smell a crush vote? Toodles! Reggie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Mon Aug 19 11:43:53 2002 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 11:43:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: This is just a Morden (via Charing X) song Message-ID: It's been a while..... This is just a modern mock song ======================== Andrew tried to run away, He sent a post across to listees, He'd gone off of the rants and poems, He didn't like the sound of them. Gig info he didn't get any, He stuck his pitchfork in the air, He wanted contents set out in plain, I suppose he needs a holiday. I put my arm around her waist, She had on an I love Ken Chu badge, She didn't recognise my face, I wasn't even bad looking. Laura's feeling just ideal, Her posts are nearly always perfect, She's thinking of something to do, Because G is The Birthday Boy. We walked up to the top of hills, We were going drinking in the park, We were hitting Gareth on the head, We've got a lot in common. I'll leave them to do what they want, I'll leave them to do what they need to, I'll go and play with words and polaroids, I'll admit I'm feeling strange. [instrumental] I'm not as sad as Star Trek Fans, I'm not as funny as Big Train, I'll only read a post for the way it looks, And then I prolly go on chat again. Now I could tell you who my crush is, But it never seems to do you good, It's beyond me what a girl can't see, I'm only lucid when I'm writing posts. I am just a boy from Hong Kong, I am just as thick as cement, We're fourteen hundred boys (and girls) in corduroys, We're not terrific but we're competent. Stevie's full of good pantaloons, Richards into J 'n' G, Big Stu's staying in and he thinks it's a sin, That he has to leave the house at all. This is just a huge sick posse, of f**ked in the head psycho-fans, I count 15 minutes and then we start to slow, Because a post has got to stop somewhere. Love and Red Bulls Ken P.S.:Ner Ner my girlfriend hates me and I hate her too, should I snog her? Grr people keep treating me unfairly why don't they understand!!!! P.S.2.:Sorry, I better stop posting in the style of Arab Strap. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twistlittlegirl at xxx.com Mon Aug 19 15:28:46 2002 From: twistlittlegirl at xxx.com (Matilda Liljedahl) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:28:46 +0200 Subject: Sinister: All I need is a pretty song or maybe two Message-ID: Hello you strangers that I don't know but somehow like anyway I read Matthew’s post from 10:th July. I’d saved it because of the subject line (All I need is a pretty song) and I’d forgotten it till now. I liked that line because that’s how I feel. Often things seems pointless and depressing, but one good song can sometimes change my mood. Then I’m happy although something keeps telling me that songs are not reality and to be really happy you have to find things in reality that makes you feel glad. Anyway I was happily surprised by this post because the contents were just as good as the subject line, or maybe not good because it describes a person that thinks like I do, and that's not only a good thing. I think that nothing will ever really change or be better. It is easy to feel that way and I’ve never really succeeded in persuading myself to be optimistic instead. There have been a lot of big changes through history but there have always been weaknesses in everything and when some things get better other thing automatically get worse. Still I struggle to change the world, to make things fairer and to make it possible for people to be themselves without being treated badly. To change things is actually the meaning of my life, and still I doubt about if that’s possible. It’s a bit hard actually. And sometimes all I need is a pretty song And maybe a piece of chocolate too. I think it would be better for me to just don't care. Sometimes I wish I was more irresponsible. I also have to comment something more shallow but still important. Idleberry wrote something about not knowing what to wear to fishnet tights, but hey, you could wear anything. There’s nothing easier to combine with other clothes than fishnet tights, especially the black ones. Now I’m hungry and have to leave this room to make my way out to the kitchen. Keep smiling if you can. Love/Matilda _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail är världens populäraste e-posttjänst. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcbots at xxx.nl Mon Aug 19 16:05:09 2002 From: marcbots at xxx.nl (marc bots) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:05:09 +0200 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <85B80YWZU04LJ87LJW09USVP42FAJE.3d610925@poppy> dear sinister i was going to send you an email about the haldern festival last week, but then i read dimitra's brilliant post and that said it all, really. and then anakin pointed out some things that made sense too, though i did enjoy b&s. the setlist was better than rotterdam, the sound was not as good as rotterdam, and the rotterdam gig was somehow more relaxed. meeting people that love b&s is a strange thing: for a long time they were my personal musical secret. and then you go to a festival and meet people that love them too, or more, and know much more and have seen them a thousand times. and your little secret is no more. it's good that all the people i met were extremely nice and sweet, and the feeling that people that love b&s share something, no matter where they are, became very real. seeing oliviers t-shirt in haldern made me remember something, and yesterday at my partents i checked it out and i was right: when my mother was young she got the single of the belle and sebastian tv-show. she still had it, and apparantly (i only remember very vaguely) i loved the first song on it, it's called belle. very sweet, probably a child's voice, and some guitar strumming. the sound was horrible, all cracks and hiss. next time i'll bring a guitar to my parents and learn to play the song. there was also a song called belle and sebastian on the record, but that wasn't as good, and didn't have any singing in it. big hello to everyone i met in haldern, especially the girlies. and dimitra, i would sing a song with you any day. love, marcbots SEND! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_cobb61 at xxx.com Mon Aug 19 16:24:09 2002 From: chris_cobb61 at xxx.com (Chris Cobb) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 08:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: San Fran only Message-ID: <20020819152409.95479.qmail@web20308.mail.yahoo.com> I'm very sorry to bother everyone with this.. but is there a San Francisco specific sublist? I know some areas have their own. (like the midwest!) If so I'd apprecaite anyone that could put me in touch. I'm moving out to the area from Chicago next week and I'd love the advice of all of you out there. I need advice on where to live and potentially a roommate. Again, I know this is very bad for me to do this, I apologize. ~Chris~ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Mon Aug 19 22:48:54 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 21:48:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: thursday night! In-Reply-To: <001b01c2459b$0051bf40$aa8e87d9@ivorsserver> Message-ID: Hello! Just wanted to remind you that this Thursday is the third ever How Does It Feel To Be Loved? clubnight. It's at the Buffalo Bars, underneath Famous Cock Tavern, outside Highbury & Islington tube, London, 9pm-2am, £3 in. Guest DJ is David Callahan, formerly of The Wolfhounds who were on the infamous C86 compilation way back in the day. He says he has a ton of classic pop records from that era to spin, so his guest slot from 10pm-11pm should be brilliant. The playlist is The Smiths * The Supremes * The Go-Betweens * Dusty Springfield * Belle & Sebastian * Tammi Terrell * Aztec Camera * The Ronettes * Orange Juice * Beach Boys * The Temptations * Velvet Underground * Felt * The Shangri-Las * Primal Scream * Otis Redding * The Field Mice * The Stone Roses * Dexys Midnight Runners * The Four Tops * Dolly Parton * The Orchids We're starting a small guest list competition, so if you want to win a place on the list just email back saying "yes please, let me in for free". Ten places to be won. First come, first served. Just email by return to this mail. Plus! There's a new section on the club website - http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk - dedicated to Great Lost Singles. Do you know a fantastic indie single that didn't quite set the charts ablaze as it should have done? Then celebrate it here. Send your nominations to howdoesitfeel at bigfoot.com - artist name, single name, label, and some passionate prose about what makes it a Great Lost Single. See you on Thursday! x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mary_goodshoes at xxx.com Mon Aug 19 23:36:15 2002 From: mary_goodshoes at xxx.com (Miss Marianna Longmire) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 23:36:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "Watch us wreck the mic, psych." Message-ID: Where Marianna complains like an old woman. apologies in advance. It was one of those really hot London afternoons, so I tucked my little folding chair under my arm, sat in my backyard and read in the sun. Which was lovely, really, until my serenity was disturbed by my neighbour - the devil in a fish net muscle shirt - and his appalling musical selection. You may remember I once told a story about my neighbour playing a selection of great tunes out his window and onto the streets below. And how this was great, and I loved it because it made this fenced-off street feel like a little community. Well, I've since changed my mind. He is, officially, the fifth most odious person I have ever had the misfortune to know. Primarily, because he conducts ALL his conversations as if he were yelling, and his musical choice has moved from the wonderful Destiny's Child to playing rubbish Euro-trance tunes so loud I /literally/ can't hear myself speak. He is the bane of my existence and he makes me want to kill things. But, you'll be pleased to hear, I wasn't going to take this abuse any longer. I was gonna kick his ass the only way I knew how. Musically. And so began the Hackney Stereo Battle-Off Royale! Who will win this clash of the Titans? King: Hot dang! The ref's whistle has barely blown, and the neighbour has brought out the big guns, playing MousseT's "I'm Horny." Longmire doesn't stand a chance against a player of this calibre. Cole: But wait! She's reaching for her CD collection, what album do you think she'll choose? She's going for Ladytron, but no it's BRAINSTORM! BRAINSTORM! BRAINSTORM! King: Wow, that's a smart move from Longmire; the neighbour is on the floor in agony! It seems Eurovision 2000's runners up are positively SLAYING him with their indie-lite stylings. This match is ove. hang on, what's this? Retaliation? Cole: I can't believe it! He's actually managed to make it up again like an 80-year-old on Viagra and OUCH! He's playing The Vengaboys! King: Oof, that's gotta hurt. But Longmire seems undeterred. In fact she's laughing as her volume dial goes up to 35. What's she gonna do to him?! Cole: Oh! My! God! It's DAPHNE AND CELESTE! King: HE'S GOING DOWN! And so, I won. For about ten minutes, after which my celebratory cup of Earl Grey started to tremble as the opening refrains of DJ Otzi's "Hey Baby" came bellowing from the flat above. And, like all good Australians, I cursed. And, like all good Australians, I couldn't actually be arsed to do anything more about it. So I sat in my room and played the entire B+S (content!) back catalogue at a rather more reasonable volume, and danced, and wrote, and pondered. And a niggling thought came back to me and poked me in the eye. I hate my name. Rather, I hate the fact that my name hasn't (to my knowledge) been used in a song. Oh sure, all you Lisas and Janes and flipping Belles get a mention, but just once I would like my name to be used in a song. Or even a television show. Fact: I once wrote a fan letter to the chief script writer of Neighbours, hoping that somehow, he would become so enamoured with my name that he'd introduce a new character to the show, just so he could call her Marianna. And then, you know, she'd get it on with Kristian Schmidt. And it would be like we were dating. Or something. But, NO! My dreams were never realised. And I was forced to watch my sister Caroline jump about in glee to Shaggy's "Oh Carolina", bragging about how great she was as her name was in the top forty. I mentioned the misspelling, but she never seemed to listen, so I just punched her and went off to read her secret love letters. Of course, this whole egotistical issue of wanting my name in a song could perhaps be traced back to a brief period of being ostracised in primary school. This wasn't because I joined the boys' dungeons and dragon club, and it wasn't because I refused to smoke after school in the all-ages playground simply because it sounded far too much like a rebellion cliché. No, I was on the outer because the hippest thing you could have in your pencil case was a ruler with your name PROFESSIONALLY written on it. And of course, 'Marianna' was deemed far too obscure for the manufacturers to bother. Bastards. I can't tell you the pain it used to cause me seeing all my friends with their gleaming plastic named rulers, whilst I had to do with a 30 cent wooden ruler. Although, granted, I did jazz it up with 'Marianna loves Corey Haim for eva!' And 'Madonna rules!' etchings made by my compass. Still, mustn't grumble. On #sinister chat there was talk about the Beckham's insistence on naming their children after where they were conceived. I would be called Barrabarrup Longmire. Now try finding THAT on a ruler. xx Miss Marianna. PS. Sarah is /so/ right. Red Shoes are the greatest things in the world. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Tue Aug 20 11:57:55 2002 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:57:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: What was the greatest thing before sliced bread was invented? Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC641B47@pikachu.ntu.ac.uk> Summer's almost over. Does anyone know where it goes? Distressingly, I have failed to make it to a single picnic this summer. Which on past experience makes them more enjoyable for everyone else, but reduces the average drunkenness. This Sunday, I'll be thinking of all of you in your red knickers. Except Ken. Time to join the bandwagon with a few ink polaroids. (If anyone knows what the hell a bandwagon is, or how you would actually go about joining one, please tell us, I've often wondered. Well, not exactly often, but ocasionally. It's not really the biggest question that keep me awake at night. But once or twice, at least.) ** This one is from the first time I saw B&S live - Manchester, Christmas '97. In between the two gigs they played on the Sunday. I'm walking around Manchester town centre with the first sinisterines I'd ever met, who insist on reminding me every few minutes that I'm a bit taller than them. Especially Julia. We've just noticed a big Ferris Wheel down one of the streets leading away from the Town Hall. From the top you can see right across Manchester. What joy. News item of the week: the Queen telling Alan Titchmarsh "You've given a lot of women a lot of pleasure". Really. ** This one was taken on one of the several times I have missed the last train home after a Sinister get-together. We're on the roof of the Poetry Cafe in London in summer '98. Just behind me are Isobel and Wee Chris. Mick's off somewhere with an ebulient admirer who was on this list at the time. You can't really see much else, because it was 2am and it was dark. I am also indebted to the Independent on Sunday for providing the following list of genuine bird names: the Bare-Faced Go-Away Bird, the Invisible Rail, the Double-Eyed Fig-Parrot, the Blue-Knobbed Curassow, the Oleaginous Mountain Tanager, the Obscure Berrypicker, the Carbonated Sierra Finch, the Rosy-Faced Lovebird, and my favourite, the Agile Tit-Tyrant. Of course, this has absolutely nothing to do with Belle and Sebastian (apart from giving them potential new lyrics), they just sound good. ** This one was taken in a park in South-East London. Lying on the grass, next to the kiddies' playground. On the left you can see Stevie Trousers getting along well with an Irish lass. And trying to get on even better with her. It's a bit blurry, because I was ratarsed. As I have got older, I thought music had lost it's power to amaze me, to blow me away. Then, late last Friday night, I was watching an Elvis tribute program on BBC1, featuring the likes of Liberty X and Darren Hayes doing appalling covers of his songs. Suddenly, the Flaming Lips appear; and do a half-tempo, psychadelic cover of "Suspicious Minds". One of the most bizarre things I've heard in ages, and hence, one of the best. ** This one was taken outside the Spread Eagle in Camden, after a particularly beery afternoon on Primrose Hill. Actually, it's not quite outside the Spread Eagle, because we'd been kicked off the pavement for making too much noise. So it's on the pavement opposite instead. Rob has just pulled out his guitar, and we're all singing along to Modern Rock Song. Shortly after this was taken, a person walking past said "Hey, you're Belle and Sebastian" and asked for an autograph. Second news item of the week: the president of Turkmenistan, one week after renaming all the months of the year after himself and his family, has now issued an edict officially extending adolescence to the age of 25, and postponing old age until 85 (a mere 25 years after the average life-expectancy in his country). And you thought George Bush was insane. ** This one was taken on the beach in Scarborough last summer. Most of the people you can see are trying desperately to play it cool and pretend they're not bothered about the fact that they're talking to members of B&S. Meanwhile, I'm digging a hollow in the sand to stand in so that I can speak to Katrina without bending over too much. Still to come: ink polaroids from B&S playing a gig at The Globe Theatre in London (go on, you know you want to), and at next year's Glastonbury... Big Stu Current favourite song of the year: 'Royal In The Afternoon' from the new Whitlams album (you didn't think I'd let you forget them, did you?). The kind of song B&S should be writing and getting into the Top 10 with. Go download it now... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lickingrailings at xxx.com Tue Aug 20 12:53:06 2002 From: lickingrailings at xxx.com (Carl Brown) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:53:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the life of brian Message-ID: hey sinister wow! this listy thing really seems to work. a big thanx to johan, madeleine, dimitra and everyone else who has made me feel welcome on sinister. u people ROCK!. and i'm sure emily n (also a newfish) would agree with me that b & s people are the politest music fans in the world. my weekend has been pretty dull. tried to convince myself to work on my dissertation---didnt happen. instead went to snobs nightclub in birmingham---lost everyone and ended up in the greek restaurant next door til half four in the morning talking to some mad woman who kept calling me 'brian'(i'm not making this up!) also bought the delgados 'peloton'. very nice vocals. very nice melodies and quite melancholic. but not much trumpet...aaaah, never mind. finally heard the b & s peel session---cos my mate knows computery stuff and downloaded it for me. its very, erm b & s. sounds like they're enjoying themselves a lot more now. which is good. and thats about it. sorry if this post is a bit crap----maybe might try a couple of these ink polaroid jobbies next time. or maybe not. gonna go now. carl xx _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Tue Aug 20 14:50:02 2002 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 20:50:02 +0700 Subject: Sinister: Come to our picnic! Message-ID: Sick of all those Northern Hemisphere picnics?! Then why not celebrate the 5th Birthday of Sinister at the *biggest* sinister picnic to ever take place (we think) in the Southern Hemisphere! Marvel at the way the water goes the other way down the drain! Be amazed by hot Christmasses! Be awestruck by every sentence ending in !! The picnic will take place in Perth this Saturday! Everyone (all 5 Perth sinisterines) will meet at my house (6/16 Monash Avenue, Nedlands - phone: 9389 5001) at 1pmish, then we will be walking across to Kings Park! Here we will be having a good ol' fashioned Aussie BBQ, with sausages, potato salad, VB, tomato sauce and a footy! Plus some soccer ball kicking, frisbee throwing, gin and tonic drinking, music listening (lots of Belle and Sebastian!), and maybe even a hand stand competition! In the unlikely event that someone out of Perth wants to come, you can stay at my place for a few days if you like! If there is anyone in Perth we don't know about, please suprise us and come along. oh sorry, i mean come along! Remember to wear your red underwear! a somewhat reluctant, hoarse-throated picnic mummy, red terry underwear! ps. down with jimbocorp! _____________________________________________________________ Play the Elvis� Scratch & Win for your chance to instantly win $10,000 Cash - a 2003 Harley Davidson� Sportster� - 1 of 25,000 CD's - and more! http://r.lycos.com/r/sagel_mail/_scratch_tl/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_020801/index.asp?tc=7087 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aorta47 at xxx.com Tue Aug 20 20:24:19 2002 From: aorta47 at xxx.com (mmm skyscraper) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Jesus Don't Want Me to Sleep on a Sunbeam Message-ID: <20020820192419.81928.qmail@web11806.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Sinister. Do you seem to notice the word 'sinister' alot more since you've joined this list? It seems that everything I read now that word is there. The question 'Where does the summer go?' has inspired me to relisten to TIJAMRS ep again. A very nice ep, even if it never did see a proper US release. Argh. I'm seem to pay all this money for imports now a days. B&S was mentioned in Entertainment Weekly this week. A worth rag to be sure. They had a blurb about James Yorkston and the Athletes album 'Moving Up Country' and said that great bands come from Scotland including Orange Juice, Aztec Camera,Teenage Fanclub, B&S, and Travis. Not so sure about Travis, but their cover of 'Baby One More Time' is funny. Anytime B&S are mentioned in print is a good thing. And the James Yorkston stuff I've heard is pretty good also. I'm hearing good stuff about Interpol. So, hot or not? It seems that every band out of NYC is being tipped as the saviors of rock'n'roll. Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hobart at xxx.uk Tue Aug 20 21:44:10 2002 From: hobart at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 21:44:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: tea and biscuits with your uncle ian Message-ID: <018101c2488a$9a313cc0$3ec2193e@default> (come away from yer uncle stevie, you know he gets excited easily.) i can never find my photos.. i think this bunch of ink polaroids got wet.. a shame, because they're new ones. covered in...well it smells like cranberry juice, but i suspect its something stronger. this one looks like somebody stood a bottle on it. you can just about make out the faces, but they're not quite as they were when i took the picture. most photographs end up like that, sooner or later. many years of selective memory condensed into a moment. those not in the picture can view it dispassionately, but those involved never see the image as it truly is. they see the past, and they feel the joy and sadness that comes with looking back.. i'll show you mine later, if you want. have a cup of tea and a biscuit first. i got them in especially. they're your favourite. i hope you won't mind if i hum indistinctly to myself, i've been doing that a lot lately. it has been a hard week: look at this letter, i got it last friday: 'dissatisfied? directionless? frequently innebriated? do people see you coming, and cross the street? do people see you coming, and throw themselves under buses to avoid you? i have THE ANSWER. solve all your problems in one easy move. simply send twenty new pounds sterling to the address below' well.... did you ever read a letter and think that it might have been written for you? i was a little suspicious, especially when i saw the brighton address - i used to know a Scurrilous Southern Get who lived in that town - but on closer inspection, the name and address ('Roochool Ployforth, House of Ployforth, Brighton') were clearly those of somebody else entirely. i needed that twenty quid, there's a HandiFist in the window of clonezone that i'd had my eye on, but i also need The Answer. because i've been looking for it for a while. also, i looked forward to having all my problems solved in one easy move. attempting to solve them all by going through lots of complicated, difficult manoeuvers is really starting to get me down. so, i sent off the 20 quid. of course i did. wouldn't you? no, you probably wouldn't, would you? this morning i received the reply. on the inside of a packet of curry flavoured condoms, someone had written: 'The Answers to Life 1. Accept that all existence is misery 2. Get over it xxx Archel' that's FORTY quid i'm down, because i sent off another copy to see if i got two different answers. i wonder what 'Little Old Lady Across The Road From Ian' (cunning disguise, non?) will make of her delivery? i don't think i'm going to bother breaking into her house to get it back. not now i know who it is from. of COURSE there's a revenge plan. just don't ask me what it is yet. i've been pondering that message all day. i sat next to a lady on the bus. she looked at me oddly. must have been the buzzing. i looked back at her, and enunciated clearly: 'all existence is misery.' she said nothing, but moved seats at the next stop. later, i saw her getting off the bus, her face looked wet, and her eyes were red. odd, because it wasn't raining. i've heard that said before. there are those that believe that this life is the hell, the lower level, the punishment for being bad, whatever you like to call it. the spiritualists believe that this is the 2nd of seven levels of existence, which become less unpleasant as you progress. some of the buddhists seem to believe that the only goal of the wise is freedom from the cycle of death and rebirth - freedom from this mortal life. perhaps a none-existence. the christians believe - well, its never easy to tell. this is how my day went: the bus moves up a street. pubs on either side. there are people inside each of these buildings, annihilating their brain cells and poisoning their bodies in the aim of...whatever it is people look for. past the side-road with the gun factory. they test hourly. on a still day, you can hear the shots ringing half a mile away. a woman stumbles up the street, cigarette in her hand burning down to her fingers as they rest insecurely on an empty pushchair. she mutters to herself, and people move away. past a thousand birmingham houses, blue screens flashing on faces thinking 'there must be something better than this'. existence is misery? its hard to see much happiness around me. so i've come home. and i dig out my ink polaroids.. these are the ones that have people you know in them. i'll save the old ones, and i'll look over them when you're gone. this is an old one. i'm coming up from camden tube station. remember it? i was about to meet you. but i was scared. like the sarah cracknell t-shirt? i made it myself. i thought you might like it. oh, its fallen apart now. i never thought it would last long. no, the flares don't fit very well, do they? they never did. still don't. doesn't stop me wearing them, though. you were standing by the railings. i walked away, up the street, and summoned up courage, before walking back and standing close to you, and muttering something. and you responded. bless you. of course, i'd met you before. but this was the first time we really got talking. oh, you don't want to hear an old man reminisce. its okay, you can go now. play with your friends. i'll sit up for a while, and look at these. they make me smile. they remind me that life isn't about misery after all. oh yes, misery is a part of it. some would say a vital part. but there's joy too, and there's joy in these polaroids. i'm glad you were there with me in some of them. you remind me that life isn't so bad. say hi to your mum. tell her i'm thinking of her. i wish i was your real uncle xx ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Tue Aug 20 22:29:12 2002 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 22:29:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: oh dear, I don't fancy yours much Message-ID: Hello everyone, a number of disjointed thoughts have I to share with you. i) I have a new favourite band. They are from Dublin and they are called The Chalets. They do that thing of having boy-girl vocals. And what makes it great is they have two girls. So it's really girl-boy-girl vocals. Someone described them as being like the B-52s crossed with the Gang of Four. Certainly the guitar playing is very deliberate. Look, go and look at their website and download their song and then they will be your favourite band too: http://www.thechalets.com or is it http://www.thechalets.ie ? one or the other anyway. Apparently one of them is also in the WARLORDS OF PEZ (Dublin's other G*R*A*T*E band), but I can't tell which one as he doesn't wear his Pezmask on the Chaletsite. ii) I went out dancing a few weeks back, to a club called Mojo Club. This has nothing to do with the oldarse music magazine, but is rather a club here in DUBLIN specialising in psych and soul music. Woahhhh, that's what I want. It's run by the same people that do Dublin's other good club, Helter Shelter. I went along and I danced a lot. however, and perhaps this was just a curious side-effect of the *drinks* I had consumed, I did find odd thoughts going through my head... I mean, at one point I was standing there watching all the people having a good time and I imagined what it must be like in other countries to watch people having fun and then trigger the explosives you have strapped to your body. I know, I am weird. iii) I've developed this sudden love of the Dublin music scene and am going to this Wonky festival thing in the Guinness Storehouse on Saturday. Sadly, the WARLORDS OF PEZ are not playing, but the Chalets are. And so are The Jimmycake, who are also actually good in a textured instrumentals kind of way. And the Dudley Corporation are playing too. They have a Sinister link - none other than Princess Honey herself sings backing vocals on one of the tracks on their album ("The Lonely World of the Dudley Corporation"). Blimey, eh. I still haven't worked out whether I actually like the Corpo, but seeing them will be nice. iv) and finally, in an unlikely sequence of events I have wangled a DJing slot at BLEEP, the trend friday night "club" (is a pub with a bar extension and DJs playing eclectic and undanceable music a club?). I am going to play nothing but songs about WAR and the current INTERNATIONAL SITUATION. So no Belle & Sebastian (and yeah, I know there's 'I Fought In A War', but it's not very good, is it?). v) Jonathan mentioned going to a wedding and not liking it. the thing to remember is that there is a big difference between family weddings (bad) and friend weddings (good). wait till your friends start getting married, then the fun will start. ma es salaam. DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From prbar at xxx.com Tue Aug 20 22:40:59 2002 From: prbar at xxx.com (Philip Runion) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:40:59 -0400 Subject: Sinister: What was the greatest thing before sliced bread was invented? Message-ID: I am also indebted to the Independent on Sunday for providing the following list of genuine bird names: the Bare-Faced Go-Away Bird: see Isobel after ripping one quief style the Invisible Rail: See Stuart David's crotch the Double-Eyed Fig-Parrot: see beans the Blue-Knobbed Curassow: see like any number of us boys the Oleaginous Mountain Tanager: see The Bare-Faced Go-Away Bird the Obscure Berrypicker: see Papa Smurf in search of a cure for Smurfettes libido (note: obvious cure: Blue-Knobbed Curassow) the Carbonated Sierra Finch: see Ken after so many RB&V's he forgets how to use his fingers the Rosy-Faced Lovebird: see the lovely LLew the Agile Tit-Tyrant: ibid _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayeckard at xxx.com Wed Aug 21 07:05:00 2002 From: jayeckard at xxx.com (Jay Eckard) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 06:05:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Reporting Back: An Unfortunate Event Message-ID: Reel Around Easley, or Fifteen Minutes with Llew (I wouldn't say no). I thought that since nobody else had, I would report on the circumstances surrounding An Unfortunate Event on Sunday. It was a veritable Southern Sinister Massive. Before I arrived in Easley, I wandered around upland South Carolina for several hours. It was an eerie combination of Adult retail outlets (read: porno porno porno), fireworks stands, bible outlets, and peaches (a giant peach dammit, 50 feet tall, dominated the skyline, mooning everybody as it was shaped like a huge, 50-ft ass). On the radio: sermons and hymns. It was Sunday, and all the churches were broadcasting. The crazy churches, with foaming-mouthed members who hate the unlike. I was shocked to learn I (personally) was at the forefront of the demoralization of America. I probably have multiple social diseases (eek), kill children, read and distribute porn to the pious and have several addictions to marijuana. Gosh. I guess I'm busy. Into this semi-narcotized landscape I rolled --er, drove, looking for Llew and her fest. Since I can't follow directions, I arrived a bit late to find everyone else there: the Llew, Jayward, Kirk and the Boy G. Oh yes -- it was his birthday. There was cake, Red Velvet cake, colored water of various shades. Orange was the only color postively identified (peach). Donuts also appreared. Actually, for the brave there was home brew Parsley Soda, made from Parsley syrup and club soda. The consensus was that the Soda was not as foul as would seem. Much like the guy who brought it. What followed refreshment was conversation not seen since the Algonquin Circle last met. Oh yes: anecdotes were traded, quips were made, scintillation of language occured. Laura, of course, in fashion closely mirroring Ms Parker, outshone us all in language and beauty. And there was music: Ken Chu seranaded us with Moon River, amongst 23 other crooners. On CD, of course. The Smiths was avoided. Sadly. It being in a book shop, fine literature was discussed. The Boy found that great work, "The Guide to Gettin' It On" and was quite fascinated by it. Especially the bizarrely graphic illustrations. We all now know how to... well, Get It On, obviously. Though not with each other. Thankfully, the Guide told us the illustrations weren't quite like real life. (and let's face it... six inches is *quite* big, right?) At the height of the event, twee-ness was even reached. (twee-osity, twee-ment? I dunno.) I know: G said. "Why are we sitting around here, twee as fuck, when we could be drinking wine?" he said. Fortunately, we were all far too twee for that. The wine was unopened. Thank god, I thought, for personal reasons. Alas, it was far too good to last. After 6 or 7 hours and the distribution of vinyl gifts, we all broke up and slogged off to home. I had a particularly (peculiarly) good experience at Waffle House in Bessemer City -- whatever that is -- at 2 am. And they all lived happily ever after. Presumably. Jay -- "The Posby falls into a Trance In which it does a little Dance." Edward Gorey _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From edna_welthorpe at xxx.uk Wed Aug 21 11:03:12 2002 From: edna_welthorpe at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Stevie=20Trousers?=) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:03:12 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: London 5th Birthday Red Knicker Picnic and Disco Dancing Details Message-ID: <20020821100312.93382.qmail@web12006.mail.yahoo.com> Who's the mummy? I'M THE MUMMY! So here's the details of the London celebrations this Sunday: If you are an old lag and know how to get to Primrose Hill already, we'll meet you at the top at 3pm. Otherwise: Meet at 2.30pm in Camden. Camden Town tube on a Saturday is even nastier than usual, so the Spread Eagle pub may be the best rendezvous. The pub is about 5 minutes up Parkway, which is just across the road from the station. I will be at the bar, with my head on the bar,(actually probably sitting outside)from about 2.15 to 2.45. If you get lost/don't know who to look for, my mobile number is 0785 508 9167. If you don't fancy the climb up the hill, but do fancy throwing some shapes in the upstairs room of a pub while list legends such as KEN CHU, MARIANNA LONGMIRE and CARSMILE STEVE mash up da dex, we will later be convening upstairs in the Betsey Trotwood pub from 7.30ish. (The Betsey is on Farringdon Road, opposite the Guardian offices - nearest tube, funnily enough, is Farringdon). So, yes. Come along. Bring food, drink, croquet mallets, etc. Stevie T x ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk Wed Aug 21 17:40:43 2002 From: MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk (Michael Ashbridge) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:40:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: Last night a DJ saved my life Message-ID: <27859B05764@Blackstaff.ulst.ac.uk> **Caveat Emptor** R�yksopp's gig last night was, in a word, bluddycrap. No support turned up, so after two hours of trying to stay hydrated in the stifling humidity of Belfast's Mandela Hall, and trying to stay awake after two hours of the most tedious filler tape I've ever heard, the Norwegian twosome took the stage. And I'm not sure, but I think they brought lots of very fancy computery electronic wizardry and fed it at top volume through a couple of �9.99 casio speakers. Melody A.M. is a beautiful, intricate, breathtaking album, and I'm forever indebted to the McDermott girl for her recommendation, but I think there must have been a case of alien body snatching last night. I don't ever want to hear cacophonous crap like that again. I can take white noise when it's intentional, and when I'm in the mood, but R�yksopp? Get thee to a nunnery, boys. So we walked out after an hour (the first time I've ever walked out of *anything*, and we weren't the only refugees making an exodus), found a nice pub, commandeered the radio, tuned it to the last hour of John Peel's show, and he did save our lives. Beware, brother, beware. **Cunning Linguism** Mr Stuart Gardiner asked, in a round-a-bout way, what the etymology of the phrase "on the bandwagon" is. And I'll tell him, and you, because I've just finished reading Bill Bryson's Made in America: a History of American English, and I want to off-load some of the trivia clogging up my head. Bandwagon was a neologism coined by P.T. Barnum in 1855, and was used simply to describe one of his many new circus acts: a small band playing atop a horse- drawn wagon to entertain the crowds. In its modern context it refers to the fact that in the late 19th/early 20th Century in America there was a tradition of politicians parading around town to advertise their candidacy. Often these would take the form of a marching band leading, with the candidate standing atop a horse-drawn wagon. In more modest parades a smaller band would play on the wagon as well, just as in Barnum's circus act. Local notables, both to show their support of a particular politician and to add to their own publicity, would climb onto the bandwagon. If you have seen the Coen Brothers' "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" you'll know what I'm talking about. **This is the End** Here's an interesting piece by John Densmore. He's talking about the pressure on bands to flog their old songs to advertisers. The scene in Oliver Stone's movie of The Doors where Jim Morrison freaks out because the rest have agreed to allow Buick to use Light My Fire to flog their latest car is, apparently, quite accurate. http://thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20020708&c=1&s=densmore **An interesting chord structure, if structure is the right word** Post-gig conversation last night, naturally, did not centre on the gig. Instead we talked about the last gig we saw in the Mandela -- Belle and Sebastian. (And you thought you were never getting any content.) I mentioned the Peel Acres set and, by no small miracle, just happened to have a copy of it in my walkman, right there with me. No one else having heard it, a slight jigging of the pub's sound set-up (in retrospect, that's where R�yksopp should have played; it was infinitely superior to the tat they brought with them) and soon *everyone* was enjoying my oh-so-masterfully edited session tape. Twice, even, because it was just that good. Except for Love on the Marsh, which was skipped second time around, 'cause I still think it's crap. Thing is, a few of the (chronically unhip, granted) youngsters in the place came up to us and asked us who was playing. More converts, perhaps. I think it's a great idea*, and I recommend that before the month is out each one of you takes charge of a pub stereo and subjects the patrons to your own B&S mixtape. [*Smallprint: I accept no responsibility whatsoever should you misjudge your audience and get ripped to shreds by monosyllabic nu-metalers. Your house may be at risk if you do not keep up repayments.] +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Wed Aug 21 17:48:25 2002 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:48:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: London 5th Birthday Red Knicker Picnic and Disco Dancing Details Message-ID: Hewwo all. The boy Trousers just posted about a picnic. He said, >Who's the mummy? I'M THE MUMMY! but that's not the important bit. The important bit is that he said, >So here's the details of the London celebrations this >Sunday: Yep, that's SUNDAY. Just to clear things up, when he said, >Camden Town tube on a Saturday is even nastier than usual It was just a point of information, one totally irrelevent to the Red Knicker Day Shenanigans which will ensue on SUNDAY. So that's SUNDAY then, on Primrose Hill. See you SUNDAY. Adios sinistre Asm.x ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy" - Mary Cohen _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Wed Aug 21 18:09:25 2002 From: rfadden at xxx.com (rrrrobyn) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: should i talk about music, should i talk about love, cars, drugs or parties? Message-ID: <20020821170925.53011.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> sinister! all tomorrow's ink polaroids: i don't actually have any ink polaroids, but i have a lot of sinister ink digital video footage. i like to 'take a moment' just as anyone else does, but nobody and nothing wants to hold a bluddy pose for me. i don't know. it's indicative of something, of course, like my current state of being or whatever. which is boring, so nevermind. more later, etc. weekend of rawk: i had quite the weekend. i even rode in a limo (for freeee). and had an early morning fire on the beach. it started off innocently enough with an early show: cornelius! who is totally rad and guitar rock and pop and electro at the same time. whoo! with great synced up video action too. after that the night became one of those nights where you end up not only being in constant motion yourself but also not staying in the same general location for more than 2 hours (or, in some cases, 30 minutes) - all very action-adventure. i even got to kick some hippie-ravers out of a party! (half-naked hippie-ravers, get out of the bathtub and go home! no, i will not give you a hug; you have interrupted my dancing too much already. plus, you are wet.) anyway, so not only did i get to see the sun rise over the city and the mountains and the ocean, but i also rediscovered the *greatness* of arling & cameron's album "all in". classic! everyone should own it! foodness: i've been eating something which was conjured up by the one-and-only idleberry and it's devine: toast with mustard, ham and cheese, under the grill. yum. she suggests apples too, under the cheese, but i keep not having apples in the house (b/c uncooked they give me headaches, sadly.) but that would be really good. i love new food ideas that only take seconds to prepare yet taste gourmet. (i kick it up a notch* with gouda, of course. and black forest ham. and dijon. and sprouted grain bread. avocado on the side perhaps. pure class, y'all.) the truth is out there: i met a music editor (for a magazine) on saturday night and almost everything he mentioned i knew, like labels even. this was weird b/c how do i know all this stuff? i don't even think i try. (like, how do i know about felix da housecat? which i only mention b/c that's where my oh so apt subject heading is from.) i so totally am a victim of alien visitation. they've implanted me with enough knowledge and ability to impress myself**, but not enough to impress others. fucking aliens, will they ever get it right? garrr. come back here while i shake my fist at you! ooh ooh!: yesterday i walked with a co-worker to the mall and went to the boys' dept of zellers and found all these *fantastic* t-shirts! for $10 each! and no tax b/c they're kids' clothes! i bought three. and they all have excellent dragons&fire&robots-type plasticky designs on them. it was an unbelievable discovery, even in the terrible fluorescent discount department store light. they are my back-to-school clothes. hurrah! these t-shirts are possibly the best shopping discovery of my life. i even got one in *red*. with fire and skulls and also a *flame* up one arm. now imagine that with a skirt and my red boots! it is the outfit of RAWK!*** yeah, so this is my last post from the west coast. as of friday night i will no longer be your sinister gal in vancouver. sigh. end of an era. sigh. gawd, i went to the cafeteria at work today and got nostalgic... mm hm. that's probably it. robyn p.s. they were playing eminem in the limo. hahahaha! oh, man. p.p.s. haha, marianna totally loves corey haim for eva. :) etc. - amy needs a tattoo! everyone needs a tattoo! - sgs, you are right: closure is a farce (but memory repression works wonders). unless i have triplets and start thinking daytime tv is better than the interweb, i'm never gonna leave sinister. neva! (to which: a chorus of 'fuck...' with a few prayers for triplets.) - r.whitecastle, i'm going to need some cold hard evidence of your existence. it's the iguanas what make me wonder. (oh, not that it matters really, reality being the thing it is. or isn't.) * this would be funny if you heard me say it in real life. ** most likely the root of all my problems. (were i able to recognize my problems, of course.) ***whoa, i'm totally wearing that to the le tigre show. plus red underthings even if it isn't this sunday. ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hobart at xxx.uk Wed Aug 21 21:45:55 2002 From: hobart at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 21:45:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: five candles Message-ID: <004c01c24953$ed661a40$bb5587d9@default> (there's some relevant content at the bottom of this. not much, though. xxx ian) i never would have looked inside, if nobody had mentioned it. some doors are best kept closed, especially those with banging noises behind them. i was worried it might be a giant rat, or a party of escaped prisoners, who, having tunnelled all the way from winson green, had ended up in my airing cupboard. like last time. last time was very painful. they stayed for a while, tied up the boyf, ate my biscuits, refused to shag me, and nicked my jose feliciano cd. i can live with the rejection and the danger, but i really miss hearing 'don't let the sun catch you crying'. anyway. i wouldn't have looked inside, had nobody mentioned it. but somebody did: she said *PPS. Welcome Carl! I believe there is some shady sinisterine called Ian *resident in Brum, but you don't want to get involved with his particular *brand of sin and depravity, trust me. He kept a NUN in his CLOSET you *know. archel fucking playforth...with her rumour mill churning all day and night. its no good, dear. you can wash the dirty linen of others in public, but it won't hide those nasty crotchless knickers you've got on your OWN LINE! but, in the very depths of my mind, underneath the baby-oil soaked piles of porn, the rusty coat-hangers and the piles of rotting vegetation, there WAS a memory of a nun. i wondered... she appeared to be restrained, and gagged. and to have her foot caught in some sort of man-trap. when i tried to untie her, she attacked me. so i re-did the knots, and put her other foot in the man-trap. funny, these thumbscrews look familiar too. anyway, she ranted for a while, and screamed that she was going to kill me, and that i had no right to do what i had done, and that god would punish me. the usual stuff people say. it irritated me a little, because it did rather get in the way of 'big boys take it backwards', but after i smacked her with a hello kitty casserole dish she quietened down. she's clearly quite mad though: 'i came to you for help. you attacked me, tied me up, and put me in there. two months ago.' 'but i wouldn't do that. you're a nun' 'i pointed that out to you. it didn't seem to matter. you muttered something about stilettoes and suspenders and then hit me with a 'snuffy the small brown dog' frying pan. when i woke up, i was in there'. she SAYS she's lived on insects, and drops of water from the boiler. i must get that leak fixed. anyway, i felt a bit bad. whatever has happened clearly isn't my fault, but i hate to see a fellow human being in distress. she seemed to want somewhere to stay, so i told her she could sleep in my shed, and could use my computer to surf the net for porn if she wanted to. i've kept her foot in the man trap, though. it doesn't pay to be too trusting. its a dangerous, dangerous world out there, my friends. keep the faith. keep an eye out. keep smiling through, just like you always do. and remember, ne'er cast a clout before may is out. i love you xx ian oh, and hi carl. welcome to the list. we had a birmingham picnic a while back. we'll have another one again soon, hopefully. are the rest of you midlanders up for it? mail me if you are, and let me know. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kevancooke at xxx.com Wed Aug 21 23:31:09 2002 From: kevancooke at xxx.com (kevancooke at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 23:31:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: five candles References: <004c01c24953$ed661a40$bb5587d9@default> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "ian" To: "Rachel Playforth" ; Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 9:45 PM Subject: Re: Sinister: five candles > (there's some relevant content at the bottom of this. not much, though. > xxx ian) > > > i never would have looked inside, if nobody had mentioned it. > some doors are best kept closed, especially those with banging noises behind > them. > i was worried it might be a giant rat, or a party of escaped prisoners, who, > having tunnelled all the way from winson green, had ended up in my airing > cupboard. > > like last time. > > last time was very painful. they stayed for a while, tied up the boyf, ate > my biscuits, refused to shag me, and nicked my jose feliciano cd. i can > live with the rejection and the danger, but i really miss hearing 'don't let > the sun catch you crying'. > > anyway. i wouldn't have looked inside, had nobody mentioned it. but > somebody did: > > > she said > > *PPS. Welcome Carl! I believe there is some shady sinisterine called Ian > *resident in Brum, but you don't want to get involved with his particular > *brand of sin and depravity, trust me. He kept a NUN in his CLOSET you > *know. > > archel fucking playforth...with her rumour mill churning all day and night. > its no good, dear. you can wash the dirty linen of others in public, but it > won't hide those nasty crotchless knickers you've got on your OWN LINE! > > but, in the very depths of my mind, underneath the baby-oil soaked piles of > porn, the rusty coat-hangers and the piles of rotting vegetation, there WAS > a memory of a nun. > i wondered... > > > she appeared to be restrained, and gagged. and to have her foot caught in > some sort of man-trap. when i tried to untie her, she attacked me. so i > re-did the knots, and put her other foot in the man-trap. > > funny, these thumbscrews look familiar too. > > anyway, she ranted for a while, and screamed that she was going to kill me, > and that i had no right to do what i had done, and that god would punish me. > the usual stuff people say. it irritated me a little, because it did rather > get in the way of 'big boys take it backwards', but after i smacked her with > a hello kitty casserole dish she quietened down. > > she's clearly quite mad though: > > 'i came to you for help. you attacked me, tied me up, and put me in there. > two months ago.' > > 'but i wouldn't do that. you're a nun' > > 'i pointed that out to you. it didn't seem to matter. you muttered > something about stilettoes and suspenders and then hit me with a 'snuffy the > small brown dog' frying pan. when i woke up, i was in there'. > > she SAYS she's lived on insects, and drops of water from the boiler. > > i must get that leak fixed. > > anyway, i felt a bit bad. whatever has happened clearly isn't my fault, but > i hate to see a fellow human being in distress. she seemed to want > somewhere to stay, so i told her she could sleep in my shed, and could use > my computer to surf the net for porn if she wanted to. i've kept her foot > in the man trap, though. it doesn't pay to be too trusting. > > its a dangerous, dangerous world out there, my friends. > > keep the faith. keep an eye out. keep smiling through, just like you > always do. > > and remember, ne'er cast a clout before may is out. > > i love you > xx > ian > > > oh, and hi carl. welcome to the list. we had a birmingham picnic a while > back. we'll have another one again soon, hopefully. are the rest of you > midlanders up for it? mail me if you are, and let me know. > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kevancooke at xxx.com Thu Aug 22 00:34:36 2002 From: kevancooke at xxx.com (kevancooke at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 00:34:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: apologies and ink polaroids Message-ID: Hello folks, Long time no post. Unless you include an accidental "reply" a few moments ago, which may or may not have hit your inbox/digest/archive by now. Apologies. In my defense, the mouse seems to have a mind of its own at the moment. All the birthday messages and ink polaroids recently have awakened me from lurking slumber, and prompted me to pluck a dusty old photo album from the attic. Here are a few ink polaroids that I found at the back. They're all from a few years ago, from before I got my camera. ** INK POLAROIDS START *** The first one was taken on Oxford Street in September 1998, on the day that I first met other listees. There I am standing to the left of HMV's doorway, the unkempt one in old man's trousers and a Looper T-Shirt. To the right of the doorway is visiting Brazilian listee Andre Vieira. We have arranged to meet outside the shop and have been standing on either side of the entrance for five minutes. I found the next one in the middle of some pictures from Bowlie. It is a little out of focus, and may have been taken by mistake, as it appears to be a picture of the floor. There are several red wine stains on the carpet, and each of them has been covered in a hillock of salt. This one was taken in the Poetry Cafe. Stevie Trousers, Tim Hopkins, Steady Mike, Pam and Sez are sitting at the table near the door. They are all are smiling for the camera, except for Tim who seems to have been leering like a mad goon at the precise moment when the picture was taken. There are quite a few people in the background that I don't recognise, apologies to any of you who are on the list. Now, this one seems very familiar. It's a picture of me stood at the bottom of Primrose Hill gazing towards the top with an Unwins bag in my hand, and a look of terror in my eye. I did find a few pictures of Sinister footie in the park and on the beach, but I'll have to hide them, as the FA would probably have to start proceedings against Mark Casarotto and Ally Cook if they saw the obvious look of intent in their eyes, as they went lunging into some "overzealous" tackles. *** INK POLAROIDS END *** Well, that's my lot. Bye, Kevan +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From llakaparampil at xxx.com Thu Aug 22 06:13:57 2002 From: llakaparampil at xxx.com (Lisa Claire Lakaparampil) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 23:13:57 -0600 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Dear Sinister, _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From llakaparampil at xxx.com Thu Aug 22 06:24:56 2002 From: llakaparampil at xxx.com (Lisa Claire Lakaparampil) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 23:24:56 -0600 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Dear Sinister, Um... hi... I'm sorta new here... I've been hiding. I was let out of the nursery sometime in December, I'm not sure why, I was quite happy there really... I'm afraid of people sometimes, well, actually, most times these days... even if seperated by some mysterious web of 1s and 0s that I can't ever hope to understand. Even of people who somehow I've become quite attached to. An odd bunch of "strangers" you are... you make me cry almost as often as you send me into a fit of giggles, well maybe no quite so often. Some of you make me worry though, and I hope you're doing alright now, I'm thinking of you... So many of you write so brilliantly about your exciting escapades in far away places... I wish I could do that! ... I guess I'm the stranger, really... but I love you all dearly, in a way, I just wanted you to know. *cough* sorry... all this talk of red knickers and picnics has got me feeling excited and a bit left out. Are there any listees about in western Canada inclined to have a picnic in BC? A friend and I are headed west to Vancouver for a HOLIDAY!* and I was wondering whether anyone would like to meet up? Perhaps in Kelowna? We may have made it as far west as that by Sunday, or maybe some other day in some other place? e-mail me off list perhaps... um, yes, there, I've said my bit... I'll go hide again now... oh! and seeing as I haven't any red knickers, can I wear my red fishnet stockings instead? all my love, Lisa Claire * not that it matters... but I haven't been on holiday in 3 years, so I'm very excited. Last time was a school trip to England where, for 12 days, we frantically explored London and Brighton and various other cities and towns... somehow I lost my pencil case there... it had eyes glued all over the lid and said somthing silly like, "Colour through the disaster concept you discover looking for coffee. Carpe Diem!" on it... I quite miss that pencil case... _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From billrogers_1 at xxx.com Thu Aug 22 12:20:13 2002 From: billrogers_1 at xxx.com (Nathan Reader) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 04:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Some slightly philosophical dribble with a twist of nausiating happiness. Message-ID: <20020822112013.98745.qmail@web14708.mail.yahoo.com> Hi there all you Sinisters, It's a Thursday night here (in Australia) and I was just in 'reflection mode' and thought I'd share my thoughts. I think it's because I'm so young, but I can't believe how different I am now in comparison with the 'me' I used to be. Being only 17, I guess I'm at the age where I haven't really developed who I am yet, and so I'm constantly and unknowingly shaping 'me', but maybe everyone is always changing, I don't know. It's quite hard to put yourself in a situation in life where you can say that you are completely satisfied, but I think I'm pretty close right now, I mean at this very instant, 8:33 pm. I am sitting on the floor of the study on this laptop, eating mango flavoured dessert tofu (don't judge it by the name, it's quite delicious) and writing to a bunch of people, none of whom I have ever met in my entire life, and probably will never meet. To top it all off, I have recently been graced with the pleasure of being involved in a great relationship with a very special girl (this is only recent, thanks for your suggestions for my last post Ian, Sam and Lucy of sinister). One last thing, as I said before I'm 17 and it's pretty amazing that a group of musicians (B&S) can unintentionally bring together so many people, young and old. Out of interest, it would be interesting to find out what the ages of vary from of everyone on the sinister list. If you are younger than 17 (B'day 20/07/85) or think you are a contender for the oldest (don't be ashamed), please tell us all, or just me. Ruperts tip for the weekend: Don't get hung up about little things, you could get hit by a bus tommorrow. Charming yeah? Toodles. Nathan Rupert. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Thu Aug 22 15:59:56 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:59:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: good news! In-Reply-To: <004c01c24953$ed661a40$bb5587d9@default> Message-ID: Just had confirmation that there will be a CHEAP BEER on sale tonight at How Does It Feel To Be Loved? - until 10.30pm! After which there will be a CHEAP VODKA (possibly). Well, it's better than nothing. I did try... Just ask for the CHEAP BEER! See you tonight! x http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From superh3 at xxx.com Thu Aug 22 10:39:53 2002 From: superh3 at xxx.com (paul hardman) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:39:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You're just a baby baby girl / Grandstand cover. RE: Haldern Message-ID: Alright, I know it's very late but i saw the other late post about Haldern and what ya gonna do? Have to disagree with the other chap, thought they were the best band at Haldern but..... and this is where my whole argument falls down, that was the first time i'd seen them. Missed them in Rotterdam (no excuses as it's Warrington / Amsterdam boy) and Paris....BAH! Cooper temple clause were very good, one huge hell of a noise. Saw the blow up Giraffe, didn't realise there was another large English contingent there....another BAH! Thumbs up to the Sinisterette Kerstin though who came through with some aplomb although you could have quite easily totalled the lot of us driving back to Emmerich. I'd reccomend the Haldern festival next year to anyone because A. No work shy's robbing everything in sight on site. B. It's very cheap. C. 10,000 people not half a million, the less people the better for me (I only hate two things - living things & objects) D. Good God, it was so civillised E. No queues at the toilets in the morning, explain that at a festival. That's my tuppence then. Anyone who's on this tape tree list is in for a treat when I get my arse into gear and send it to Colin tic, tic, tic, la musique. On a final note, thank God the season is back and life resumes it's normal course, the Two downsides being that we'll have to put up with Arsenal cheating all year again (quick start Ashley) and we'll have to watch the most boring defensive liverpoo team in history all year. Bet you the Chelsea players give 110% tomorrow because they are playing someone famous. Come on you Reds. Dank u wel Cheers So long folks Groetjes 'H'. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world^�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AMEBIX13 at xxx.com Thu Aug 22 15:56:09 2002 From: AMEBIX13 at xxx.com (AMEBIX13 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:56:09 -0400 Subject: Sinister: sometimes I wonder, just for a while Message-ID: <5D01C918.43CC0C59.0063F0F2@aol.com> Well hello there darling sinister!!! Wow, Five years eh?? I've only been on for one, but it's been splendid I must say...I want to start this post by thanking Honey for creating this lovely, lovely list. I've received practical information about one of my favorite bands, been amused at the office, been inspired, been shown that other people feel the way I do, and last, but certainly not least, met some of the most amazing people who I have ever known, directly because of this list...so thank you all. On the subject of bitterness: So yes, I have just gotten to the end of one of the most bitter times in my life, and I am happy to honestly feel more like myself again. I have come to realize that bitterness is truly not very well suited to me. I appologise if any of my posts or emails have been tainted by that. This isn't to say that I'm terribly happy all the time these days, I mean, I'm still human afterall, it's just more that I deal with it a bit differently, if that makes any sense whatsover...hehehe. I think that i'm just a bit more accepting of things, and life in general, and personally I think it's better for me. I've regained some of my innocence, and i'm glad to have it back. Well, I suppose I'm really just a hopeless romantic when it comes down to it. I see the beauty that I've been missing in the everyday lately, and I don't want to let go of it again. On the subject of Belle and Sebastian: Yes, I know I'm way behind, but I just picked up "I'm waking up to us" the other day, and it's utterly brilliant! All three songs on it are among my favorites, and just bring out emotions in me that most music can't even get near....that's why I love B&S so much...they make me feel something, they don't always make me feel the same thing, even the same song can make me feel a multitude of different emotions, based on the specifics of the situation, but well, they always make me feel something, and that it truly special. Thanks guys! On the subject of autobiographical semi-fiction: There is a young boy named Graham, well, not all that young I suppose, but he is certainly a boy. He is a bit of a contradiction really, both young and old, innocent yet has lived through so many painful things, clever but uses poor judgement, has hope it seems only to lose it again. He does a great deal of things which many could see as being adult...he works in an office every day, he lives on his own, pays his own bills, drinks too much, wears ties and reads lots of books, smokes too many cigarettes, makes his own tea on sunday mornings, cooks his own dinners to eat alone on the floor beside his bed. Yet he still cries sometimes because he gets scared and lonely in the dark of his tiny cold bedroom. He still day dreams every day when in his office, he make believes of foriegn lands, of wandering alone through fields and hills, and sometimes wandering in these places with someone else. He day dreams of what it would be like to have someone love him...he day dreams of what it! would be like to cook breakfast for someone else...and have company at meals. He dreams of a girl, but not the typical sort of girl that boys dream of....she doesn't exist in usual places, and poor Graham doesn't even know where to begin searching, and he fears it will be the death of him yet. Many fellows may dream of glamour, of someone who everyone else likes, of someone well known, and notable...he is diefferent though. She would be quiet, a bit plain, a librarian type if you will...the sort of girl who enjoys the things he does, yet often fades into the backround of any given scene...she certainly wouldn't fade into the backround of his life though. He would love her, and she would love him, a perfect match, backround chracters living out an utterly spectaluar romantic dream behind the backs of all the self absorbed socialites. It would be like their own little secret. They could be a society in of themselves. The sunday mornings they shared reading books in bed wearing ! nothing but smiles of contentment, and smoking cigarettes. Late ni ght conversations about actual feelings, and about the future, and about maybe getting a kitten together. The little moments they would share out of the sight of everyone else. Most people wouldn't even know thier names, or even that they existed...and well, that is just how they would want it. She wouldn't long for someone more glamorous, someone with a better haircut, or who had more friends...just as he wouldn't long for the girl whom everyone lusts after....he's already had her, and a life with such a girl would be more the subject of nightmares than daydreams. This is mostly what he dreams of....and even though the dreams haven't yet come true, they still make him smile, and chase away the tears on those terrifying nights. They embrace him, and sing him softly to sleep, putting the faint hope into his innocent mind that tomorrow these matters will all be sorted On the subject of Ink Polaroids: So yes, I have managed to pull a few out of my basement, and the immense pile of papers, books, and photos that resides next to my bed. **ink polaroid #1** It is October 2001...a chilly evening, or was it early morning...I'm sitting on Elise's couch smoking a cigarette with her, and trying desperately to warm up underneath of the blanket, but to no avail. I'm shivering. The cigarette is held up to my mouth with a shakey hand, and the only light in the room is coming from either the moon, or our cigarettes. We are cuddled close to eachother, and despite being cold, life seems good. **Ink Polaroid # 2** It's earlier that day, a thursday, and it's a bit warmer outside than I would expect for an october day in wisconisn. Elise and I are sitting on a stone wall, with sheer rock faces around up, and a waterfall benind us, at the end of a path through the forest. There are beautiful hues of orange and red on all the trees around us. We had just finished what was kind of a long walk, so we both look a little bit flushed and rosy cheeked, I have a touch of sweat on my nose, and a smile on my face. I'm wearing black cuffed jeans, and a Smith's t-shirt. She has on torn blue jeans, and a B&S shirt (the ampersand one) I desperately try to get the nerve to say something that I really need to tell her, but I'm too shy at that particular moment, and instead just enjoy the scenery. There should be some more to come, I'll have to search the house again this evening when I return home from work...ink polaroids are great fun afterall! On the subject of having to get back to work before my boss gets irate with me: Well, there isn't too much to say about this, except that I love you all, bye bye for a bit! Love and Pink Flamingos, Seanie Graham P.S. - Gillian...are you still around...I haven't heard from you?? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elenita99 at xxx.com Thu Aug 22 16:47:01 2002 From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita 99) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 17:47:01 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Hey, where have you been? it's so good to see you again... Message-ID: Hello, I am back. Just in time for the 5th birthday of Sinister, it seems. I don't know how was the weather this summer in your respective countries, but here in Paris it has been crap. Like cold, wet and windy, generally speaking. So most of the time, no barbecues, no picnics, no sunbathing in the park and all these things you do in summertime. Which is a bit tough when you have no holidays and you are stuck in the office. I moved out from London about 9 months ago now, and it seems like years. Paris is OK, I suppose, I am getting used to it again. Well to some of it: the pretty sights, the many bars and clubs, the good cinemas, finding my favorite cheese at the supermarket, my lovely flat. What I am not getting used to, I think, is being in my own country again. People are so French over here (can't blame them really, it's genetic, and so am I). After almost 3 years of living abroad, it feels like no fun anymore being home. Nothing is different, nothing is surprising, nothing is annoying, nothing is terribly exciting or scary or weird. I suppose that, more than not liking smelly Paris, is being away that I miss. Talking of foreign countries, I am going away soon, on holidays for a week in Italy. And I am flying out on Friday 13th. Scary. Planes are scary already, flying on a Friday 13th is scarier. I will be wearing red knickers on Red Knickers Day, of course. And also this new pair of sexy red shoes that I bought a few weeks ago, to add to my collection. Have fun this weekend, with picnics, meetings and stuff and all. And don't forget your knickers, any visual proof will be of course of interest (at least to me) Byebye now, Elena I didn't actually mean to moan, but I realise it might sound like it. For a comeback post, I am being a bit rubbish. Please forgive me, or not. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boywiththearabstrap at xxx.com Thu Aug 22 19:34:49 2002 From: boywiththearabstrap at xxx.com (~ boywiththearabstrap) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:34:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Stuart M's in the Record! Message-ID: Congratulations to Mr Murdoch, who managed to make the showbiz gossip column of the Daily Record a few days ago. He was spotted "quirkily suited"(marvellous!) in Princes St, Edinburgh, by some sharp eyed festival goer. Ah! The lifestyles of the luckily tailored...... I found it quite interesting that someone should phone this story in to a national. Intruiging(?) also that they should print it. I wonder if the caller made any money? On the off-chance, I'm off into the West End to try and make some jack-dash. SJM Also, the Halt Bar. Theres a good gig on Saturday night. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Thu Aug 22 19:44:12 2002 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:44:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Uri! Don't bend me!!!!!! Message-ID: Hello sinister, Some people would say that 5 glorious years of sinister has made for a huge generation gap to have developed on the list. Namely between the "old Guards" and the "Young Blood". Generation gaps are funny things, like how it can make different words and phrases to end up having the same meanings, for example how "Guards" can mean the same as "And Passed Its" and "Blood" can mean the same as "Whippersnappers" .. anyway, you'd think that people become older and wiser as they age, but they don't! Let's take two case studies. ***************************** Case Study 1: STEVIE TROUSERS said that the ***5th Aniversary Sinister Picnic*** Happens on SUNDAY, which is CORRECT and then confused everyone by talking about how places are busy on SATURDAY. SILLY MAN! Just to confirm what the wise young Sam Walton said, the picnic is indeed happening on Sunday! SO DON'T TURN UP ON SATURDAY, unless you want to practice climbing up Primrose Hill to prepare for the big day. I guess it can be embarassing to be stuck at the bottom of the hill on Sunday due to lack of Hill Climbing practice! ***************************** Case Study 2: CARSMILE STEVE is a well respected, married man, you'd think that such a sagacious man would be behaving himself and be acting always within the boundaries of the law. But NO! In fact he was a bad bad bad man and is now in court! Look what I've found on the Metro (london newspaper) today... http://uk.geocities.com/ken_the_juggler/carsmile.html Tut Tut. ***************************** Which brings us back to doh! or the question set by Nathan Reader... >>it would be interesting to find out what the ages of vary from of everyone >>on the sinister list. If you... think you are a contender for the oldest >>(don't be ashamed), please tell us all, or just me.<< The answer is a good lurker friend of mine AuntSadie! auntsadie at missprint.org (i believe), she is 82, you know! She never posts but do write her, she also comes to #sinister chat very often! So come visit her by going to chat! See some of you on SUNDAY! And also you get to see my DJing DEBUT! oh my. You can all embarass me when I mess up, or the girls can all fall in love with my exquisite music choice mmmmm. Old geezers and Red Bulls Ken _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From umets at xxx.com Fri Aug 23 13:24:16 2002 From: umets at xxx.com (ulla) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:24:16 +0300 Subject: Sinister: "this is the most amazing thing i've ever seen. that, and my girlfriend." Message-ID: .....said stuart murdoch to the crowd after they had performed two songs in benicassim festival. hello sinister, i've not been very good at what i should be doing. or more like what i've promised to do. that is being a good sillustrator. i really haven't been recently and i'm sad about it. i could give you at least ten good reasons why i haven't but i won't. it would only make you yawn. instead i'll write a bit about travelling and some sinister-type persons we met, to fit my post under at least one category vanilla david talked about. we went inter railing through half of europe with my boyfriend and ended up going to benicassim (more about it later) but before that we spent some wonderful days in brussels where a local sinistereene, annie, took so good care of us it was equal to at least 10 stars hotel. all the other places we left our luggage somewhere near to railway station under the vigilant eyes of a turkish type man who chew a dirty toothpick and had nothing but sweaty towel around his waist and went strolling around. well not really, but that would of been sinister. i'm sorry now if any of you is from bordeaux, but that really was one of the most boring cities i have ever been. probably because when we arrived there it was already late at night and we left quite early next morning to catch our train to spain and had no where to left our bags(we decided not to rent a room), but really- waitresses looking at you with empty eyes and not understanding the word you are saying even if you surprise yoursel! f with the ways your body actually bends. luckily in the table next to ours in a local open air cafe an old man played some french pop on his broken violin and challenged a black man some tables away to duel with him. thankfully only musically. black man drew a reggae tape from his pocket and placed it into a silvery music machine with a smooth move. it was a long and sweaty competition but long story fast: old man wearing a black barrette just had more experience. he was wheezing though when the black man finally walked away, dragging his legs . and then finally in benicassim among other very good bands we saw belle and sebastian. i'm not sure what good the reporting back from the concert would be though because i guess most of you have seen the 30 minute clip that paul linked to. only thing i can assure you, the real thing was great deal better. but the clip was ace too. next day in the festival paper there were words written by one mr. murdoch :" i promise that the next time we play benicassim i will be talking spanish like a native. could be a few years..thanks for being the best crowd (again!). one of our violinists, emma, was crying. she said it was like "radio ga-ga" by queen" . plus! we met jordi- a spanish sinister hero, who was so kind to get us tickets and directed us to the camping place and all. he's great i tell you. we wished we'd be able to go to haldern festival as well but simply run out of time and finances. thank you to all of you who did some reporting back from there, sounded like you all great time. um. i should go. my boss is giving me THE eye. one last thing: Sean, your post was really really beautiful and touching. i so hope you'll find that someone you're looking for. soon. happy birthday to us. honey is the best. as are you. all. ulla +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Fri Aug 23 14:33:30 2002 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:33:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Got any sangers, Kezza? Message-ID: I�ve been using the same tea bag all day. I should really buy some more. maybe I'll catch a disease. I don't know who else got it too, but I got an email from Planet Banchory the other day about new t-shirts. I unfolded it and had a read, and at the bottom, after all the stuff about Forest green and Chocolate Brown, Katrina mentioned that there'll soon be a set of Belle and Sebastian playing cards. Hooo! I can't wait. I wonder if they'll be like those "special" playing cards my friend brought back from Sweden one time. The King of Arse! he he! Living in the future, as i do occasionally, I discovered that if I type my name into my mobile phone, before I type the 'n', it tells me my name is Snag. Now, as a bit of an Alf "Flamin' drongos" Stewart fan, I'm well up on my Australian slang, so I reckon my phone's trying to call me a sausage. Crikey! I don't know if this is an insult or a term of endearment. In any case I'm a bit worried that something i carry around in my pocket seems to be developing a MIND OF IT'S OWN! Talking of sausages, that reminds me. The other day I saw this headline on the interweb: "NSync star's space flight hits snag." He he! Fair dinkum, mate! I don't get to see bands very much but did get to see Death Cab For Cutie on Friday. While i must admit I went along mostly because of their name, they were very good and all had very high voices which reminded me of Alvin and the Chipmunks. A grown man living with three chipmunks? Perfectly natural, officer. And so soft on the skin. It looks like I'll be able to make it to the 5th birthday bash after all. For a while I thought I wouldn't be able to go, but hopefully, all going to plan, I should be there on Sunday. I'll have to remember to pick up my pants from the dry cleaners. bye Snag xxx _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hobart at xxx.uk Fri Aug 23 14:55:08 2002 From: hobart at xxx.uk (the potting shed) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:55:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 'Come to me' said Jesus, and i will redeem you. Message-ID: <003701c24aac$cc7bf020$7b09883e@default> fellow children of Our Lord, my name is Sister Janice Slejj. no, i am not from scandinavia, i am from Our God's Good Earth. my particular part of it, at the moment, is called birmingham. before The Hand Of The Lord brought me here, it was my pleasure to Serve in a convent just to the east of - well, geographical significance does not matter. in His eyes, we are all one. children, i want to tell you a story. i shall begin now: once upon a time, there was a man named matthew. it was his appointment in society to collect taxes from those around him. this - excuse me, i have a visitor. i shall return presently, with an edifying story that i am sure will bring Light to your day. -------------- hkuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuufjoe oh, dear. i do hope you will forgive me. i appear to have spent an hour or so Blessed with the Gift of Sleep. i must appologise for my behavviour on this, my first communication with you. my vissitor was the owner of the small abode in which The Lord has brought me to Rest. i suspect i am here to asssssisssst with his moral welfare, as he seems, at this moment in time, to lack any. he does howwever, make rather fine cake. i moust foind the recipe. one finds one can only eat a small amount at a time, but the mmore one eats, the more one enjoys it. i must admit, my children, that i have eaten he Whole cake, and am now feeling a little woozy. the life of a nun is fruggal, and i am unaccustomed to such delights. but, children, i digress. if i may, i shall return to my sottyroy. omce, as i said beffore, there was man called -- my childen, thiss sotry is rathaer boring. if i may, i wll tell you another one... in a moment... i am just giong to see if my hosts has any more of thiss rthater exceellent cake. mmm cake... fine cake.. --------------------------------------------------------------- its nto, right, as ifi meant ot poison herrr. i knwo they thoght i did, becaus shed always had it in for me. from the day i got ther. to the convnet, i mean. she htated me cccos i've got styyle....YEAH STYLE... and she's a dowdey old spinsttter with a toga ficxation. so sheee callsllme sister janice. i man sisster fucking - oho i am so sorrry, i don't mean to ussse such strong language, its jusst that when you use stongg language itss strong.. and itsss languge. yknowww? ywannt to tryy some of this cake? i'lll feeddd it tooo you trhough the scanrenn.. mmmmm....no you can'''t...cos its minee! my cake! MINE! i've haddd enough of giving all the time. its BROING bOriong BOring yknow? what's the use of worrying? it never was worhthiwle. yeah...so seh calls me sisssster janice... i mean EVERYBODYE knows nuins are called margareet mary or mary margaertet or mary margarte fucking mary mary margetat god loves mary margaret sister blooddy margartet. she HATED me.. all the other nuns ripped thepsoi psss...rippeed the pissss...piorpe...err...laughted at me. oh, they were very cleverl about it.. they never showetd it to the muther superior, but thehy laughted at me, cos she's dcalled me janixe. but i swwear.. i never meant to kill her... and now i'm nolivingin her in this shed... hdining from the polixe.,..god, god iv you livoe love me, you've got a funny way of showing it... and i hope you love me, cos i lneed someone to love mw. and Jeusue Jseuse doen't want me for a sunbeam any more. Jesus wants me aofr a sumbeam. a sumabeam! ha ha! childrem, take care. remember, if you cna't be good, be caruefkl. careufl. careufl. nice. xx Sister Janice Sleggjj +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hobart at xxx.uk Fri Aug 23 15:34:53 2002 From: hobart at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:34:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: if you're feeling..... left-handed?? Message-ID: <000601c24ab2$66e7da20$9d0e883e@default> hello my little sexpigs, i found out something very eeenteresting today, my dears. did you know that sinister means 'left-handed'? apparently the etymyoloymylogical root of the word is something to do with holding one's shield on the left side or somesuch. quite how this evolved to mean 'perturbing, in a worrying, scurrying, flurrying sort of way' (in the World Of Common Usage) and 'a bit peed off, 'cos no-ones listening to me' (in the World Of Struan Murdochette) and 'a bunch of corduroy-wearing tweeists who dance with wobbly head side-to-side yah!' (in Our World) is one of the Mysteries Of Time. this sunday, of course, i shall be insisting everyone holds their drinks with the sinister hand. and i shall be inspecting your underwear, and it had better be the correct shade of red, otherwise erm... otherwise.. otherwise Marie will lose her voice again and Uncle Remus will have to Save The World. and you don't want THAT on your conscience. ------------------------------------------ well, my loves, its been a frustrating day. the only plan i had was to download a life-size picture of jeff stryker (look, if you don't know who he is, just ask Stephen Hewitt) from the modern electrical interweb. unfortunately, there's been a fucking nun on my computer all morning. not a fucking nun literally, you understand. that might be forgiveable. at the very least i could take pictures, mark 'em up and sell 'em on. she spent at least two hours looking at www.winkingjesus.com and enthusing over www.jesusdance.com and, in the end, i gave her drugs to get rid of her. i've shoved her back in the shed with the man trap on. she may be a bride of christ, but I am the one who needs something blue. anyway, i've posted enough lately. some would say too much. so i'll go, and leave you with this thought. i hope you got that thought. i've never been great at telepathy. xx ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jvic at xxx.br Fri Aug 23 16:28:35 2002 From: jvic at xxx.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Victor?=) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:28:35 -0300 Subject: Sinister: "Watch us wreck the mic, psych." Message-ID: <001801c24ab9$bf2b8220$ca88fea9@jvital> There must be many songs called Marianna :P Well, yeah, not popular ones, but... I know of a song called "Mariane". *Almost* your name :P It's by a brazilian band called Legiao Urbana... The song isn't *sooo* good, but anyway... well, here goes the lyrics: "Mariane" "I've been working all day, I've been thinking a lot, I've been doing some things That are not quite right. I've been thinking about you I've been thinking about you When will you return? I've been working all day I've been thinking a lot I've been lost in the morning I don't know what it costs. Will you find me there? And i guess it's just a phase, I don't know where i'm going. And i guess it's just a phase, I don't know where i'm going. I've been working all day, I've been thinking a lot I've been lost in the morning I don't know what it costs. I don't think about you, I will be able to do. Will you let me be? And i don't know where i'm going, I guess it's just a phase. And i don't know where i'm going, I guess it's just a phase. Just a phase." That's it, Victor. -----Original Message----- From: owner-sinister at xxx.org [mailto:owner-sinister at missprint.org]On Behalf Of Miss Marianna Longmire Sent: Segunda-feira, 19 de Agosto de 2002 19:36 To: sinister Subject: Sinister: "Watch us wreck the mic, psych." Where Marianna complains like an old woman. apologies in advance. It was one of those really hot London afternoons, so I tucked my little folding chair under my arm, sat in my backyard and read in the sun. Which was lovely, really, until my serenity was disturbed by my neighbour - the devil in a fish net muscle shirt - and his appalling musical selection. You may remember I once told a story about my neighbour playing a selection of great tunes out his window and onto the streets below. And how this was great, and I loved it because it made this fenced-off street feel like a little community. Well, I've since changed my mind. He is, officially, the fifth most odious person I have ever had the misfortune to know. Primarily, because he conducts ALL his conversations as if he were yelling, and his musical choice has moved from the wonderful Destiny's Child to playing rubbish Euro-trance tunes so loud I /literally/ can't hear myself speak. He is the bane of my existence and he makes me want to kill things. But, you'll be pleased to hear, I wasn't going to take this abuse any longer. I was gonna kick his ass the only way I knew how. Musically. And so began the Hackney Stereo Battle-Off Royale! Who will win this clash of the Titans? King: Hot dang! The ref's whistle has barely blown, and the neighbour has brought out the big guns, playing MousseT's "I'm Horny." Longmire doesn't stand a chance against a player of this calibre. Cole: But wait! She's reaching for her CD collection, what album do you think she'll choose? She's going for Ladytron, but no it's BRAINSTORM! BRAINSTORM! BRAINSTORM! King: Wow, that's a smart move from Longmire; the neighbour is on the floor in agony! It seems Eurovision 2000's runners up are positively SLAYING him with their indie-lite stylings. This match is ove. hang on, what's this? Retaliation? Cole: I can't believe it! He's actually managed to make it up again like an 80-year-old on Viagra and OUCH! He's playing The Vengaboys! King: Oof, that's gotta hurt. But Longmire seems undeterred. In fact she's laughing as her volume dial goes up to 35. What's she gonna do to him?! Cole: Oh! My! God! It's DAPHNE AND CELESTE! King: HE'S GOING DOWN! And so, I won. For about ten minutes, after which my celebratory cup of Earl Grey started to tremble as the opening refrains of DJ Otzi's "Hey Baby" came bellowing from the flat above. And, like all good Australians, I cursed. And, like all good Australians, I couldn't actually be arsed to do anything more about it. So I sat in my room and played the entire B+S (content!) back catalogue at a rather more reasonable volume, and danced, and wrote, and pondered. And a niggling thought came back to me and poked me in the eye. I hate my name. Rather, I hate the fact that my name hasn't (to my knowledge) been used in a song. Oh sure, all you Lisas and Janes and flipping Belles get a mention, but just once I would like my name to be used in a song. Or even a television show. Fact: I once wrote a fan letter to the chief script writer of Neighbours, hoping that somehow, he would become so enamoured with my name that he'd introduce a new character to the show, just so he could call her Marianna. And then, you know, she'd get it on with Kristian Schmidt. And it would be like we were dating. Or something. But, NO! My dreams were never realised. And I was forced to watch my sister Caroline jump about in glee to Shaggy's "Oh Carolina", bragging about how great she was as her name was in the top forty. I mentioned the misspelling, but she never seemed to listen, so I just punched her and went off to read her secret love letters. Of course, this whole egotistical issue of wanting my name in a song could perhaps be traced back to a brief period of being ostracised in primary school. This wasn't because I joined the boys' dungeons and dragon club, and it wasn't because I refused to smoke after school in the all-ages playground simply because it sounded far too much like a rebellion cliché. No, I was on the outer because the hippest thing you could have in your pencil case was a ruler with your name PROFESSIONALLY written on it. And of course, 'Marianna' was deemed far too obscure for the manufacturers to bother. Bastards. I can't tell you the pain it used to cause me seeing all my friends with their gleaming plastic named rulers, whilst I had to do with a 30 cent wooden ruler. Although, granted, I did jazz it up with 'Marianna loves Corey Haim for eva!' And 'Madonna rules!' etchings made by my compass. Still, mustn't grumble. On #sinister chat there was talk about the Beckham's insistence on naming their children after where they were conceived. I would be called Barrabarrup Longmire. Now try finding THAT on a ruler. xx Miss Marianna. PS. Sarah is /so/ right. Red Shoes are the greatest things in the world. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idiot_speaks at xxx.com Sat Aug 24 00:03:40 2002 From: idiot_speaks at xxx.com (speaking) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 16:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Cheers and Whines Message-ID: <20020823230340.53278.qmail@web12902.mail.yahoo.com> Cheerwine soda is the beesknees. The first time I joined the list Ribena and Red Bull (mixed with many wonderful other liquids) were the hot topic*. So now that I have returned I wish to sing the praises of Cheerwine. The most exclusive of Sinister drinks, Cheerwine is available only in the American states of North and South Carolina (with a little bleeding into it's neighboring states). I had the priviledge to be in the company of our llew and g this past week and for the first time experienced the glory that is Cheerwine! I personally drove away with a case and a jug of it (damn me for not getting more!). It's kind of like Cokeacola with a cherry flavour added but tastes NOTHING like Cherry Coke. The company that makes it describes it as undescribable and that's the best I can come up with too! ****** Changing the subject and tone. When taking actual polariods try drawing on it, while it's developing, with a cotton swab. The pressure you apply will disrupt the chemicals and leave patches and lines of phsycedelic colours around your subject. ****** If I hadn't thrown out my pair of red transparent knickers, that an obviously disturbed ex-girlfriend gave me, I would wear them in solidarity this Sunday. However it will also be my mothers birthday so I should think hard on this solidarity thing before, if somehow it was to happen, my mother found out I was wearing silky see-through boxer shorts and I ended up trying to explain how I got them and still be in good favour with her. ***** Misread Playforth's post "nicked my jose feliciano" as "licked my nose fellatio." I suppose if you can't reach your whatsit... cheers and apologies, -kirk OH MY HOKIE! I JUST FOUND OUT!! THEY MAKE CHEERWINE ICECREAM!!!! *Sadly for the boy G, Hot Topic, still not a goth store. ps. That was in no way an ad for cheerwine. I just really like it and good things must be shared. While supplies last I will be happy to share my stores with anyone close by. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Mon Aug 26 13:11:52 2002 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 12:11:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Come Fux0r me up(i) Message-ID: Disclaimer: This post will more than likely make usage of MOCK pretentiousness, feel free to discard the MOCK and instead throw things at me, preferably small things. Hello my lovelies, So red knicker day is OVER and i still don't have any reports of the various festivities. Perhaps everyone has overdosed on excitement, redness and err... cheap alcohol. Maybe my hotmails broken, who knows? On saturday i was lucky enough to join with the glasgow sinister Massif to watch Mr Darren Hanlon. He was good, I, unfortunately, was not and left shortly after the gig finished to come home and pretend to study. In keeping with my latest tradition of going for a personality change with each sinister post i have decided after the poor showing of dannyRAWK and the general dismalness of being me that i shall have a go at being VAIN. that's right now i'm dannyGRATE. I may or may not be denim-clad in this incarnation but i sure as hell will be all about me. I still love you all, i just love me more. Actually that's not a little bit true, 'magine it was though... Ink Polaroids? Sorry my camera's broken. Retrospective CULTCHA - I bet you're all excited. Big Brother 3 has long gone now but i read an interview yesterday where winner Kate gave an interview on her new job. She described it as "wicked". Wicked. In the household everything was Wicked, oh that's wicked this is wicked. Sadly this has spilt over into REAL LIFE although not to the levels i first feared. My mother is a lost cause. The scene: I'm sitting in my bedroom outdancing little green men, zapping them and then high kicking or wiggling my butt to show my utter disdain for their poor dancing skills. Otherwise known as dancing my ass off to a very japanese video game. I hear a shout, it is the parental unit. I go down the stairs to be greeted by these words from my mother: "I've made you some lentil soup son, it'll be wicked." Lentil soup. My Mum. Wicked? Yr 'avin' a laff surely. She has also fell in love with this new-fangled e-mail thingymajig she insists on calling t(e)xt(i)ng. It is in her own words, "Wicked!" Wickedness Pervading society! Perhaps we're ripe for a bunch of green aliens with a lot of rhythm to come take us out. Whoot! Study Questions: * S�norita callaghan is clearly too exotic to be from dreary old ayr? * Angelic Amy Apples is much too nice to be true? * Wicked Schmicked we're all people: Discuss * Stevie (your choice) smells of weewee? *SMUT* B&S prefer GROUPIES to ICE CREAM and JELLY? *SMUT* * I clearly don't get enough sleep: Discuss * Gillanders Esq. is a FUNNY GUY who is here to AMUSE me? it's so true love for all, cake for some pie xxx (i) Applicants must be 18 or over, unstable of mind and willing to travel. If you're like an employee of me then ummm...you're like, NOT ALLOWED (ii) Everyone should hear Lambchops "Your Sunny Fucking Day". Why? Listen and you'll see for yourself. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From benapps at xxx.com Mon Aug 26 19:31:49 2002 From: benapps at xxx.com (Ben Apps) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 19:31:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I was like, you know, surprised, I was like, totally happy for a day in 1975 Message-ID: Dearest Sinister Chums, PARAGRAPH 1 Having just gone through the unusual experience of moving house while on a holiday of sorts, I now find myself writing to you from, as Dr Pete Venkman calls it in Ghostbusters II, southern California's beautiful San Fernando Valley. Like where, oh my gawd, everyone like totally is rilly rilly like uh "he was all...and she was all...and it was grody to the max" Well not really but that's the myth that Chris Farley and Adam Sandler and a slew of 80's teen comedies would have you believe. If however you are from the locality and having trouble grasping non-valley variations of the English language, then I have found the indispensible resource you need: http://www.80s.com/Entertainment/ValleyURL PARAGRAPH 2 The London brigade may have stolen a march on all this 5th anniversary red knicker business. But here is where the new world order of this transglobal underground strikes back. What I am trying to say is that there will be a PICNIC this coming Saturday, August 31st in the sumptuous surroundings of the Arruyo Seco, next to the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California. Meet at Gate A ( http://www.rosebowlstadium.com/seating2.htm ) of the Rose bowl (which is at the southern most end) at 3pm. When all stragglers are accounted for we'll find a shady spot of grass to picnic and chat on. Those with an athletic disposition are more than welcome to join me in a kickabout :) Coincidently the LA Galaxy Soccer team have a match at the Rose Bowl that evening againt the New York/New Jersey Metro Stars, which a couple of us will be going along to. It's a snip at $13, but don't forget to bring a coat or a jumper as it'll be getting cooler by the time the game finishes around 9pm. The plan once inside the Stadium is to get the crowd cheering the team on to the tunes of B&S. I think TBWTAS or JATDOH would fit pretty well....and if the pet shop boys and the lightning seeds can do it, we can too! PARAGARPH 3 If you think you might come along, or need directions or fancy an online game of chess or something, give me a tinkle at benapps at hotmail.com or mither 'er indoors at blind_lisa at yahoo.com . I guess I should encourage the wearing of red undies too, but it's not obligatory to wear any ;) I think that's it, apart from to mention that I anticipate some in-depth reporting back from the London brigade in the next couple of days. Goodbye goodbye goodbye Ben S BApps x _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From birosaregreat at xxx.com Tue Aug 27 01:58:42 2002 From: birosaregreat at xxx.com (James Danson-Hatcher) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 01:58:42 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: I think theres going to be alot of people like me about, they'll likely be somewhere from 17 to their early 20's. Of course I have only lived through one decade fully so if you have more experience tell me. What happened during the nineties?, did anything really happen or was society too involved in breaking down divisions we have between us to move forward. You can't call someone a black person without a sea of heads spinning round to correct you for you "mistake" in supposedly seeing them only for their colour, when all you are doing is noticing a most obvious feature of their immediate being. Structures everywhere are being brought down to the ground, the structures that give us places in society are blurred or overcomplicated. You go to work and you're not a motor mechanic but a Diagnostic Technician. A what!?, That could be anything!. You ask a friend what job they do and it turns out he's an Engineer............an "Engineer" who refills up the city's empty coffee machines for a job. Surely structures in society are not confined to the people themselves. Look at the physical structures surrounding yourself. Often buildings, parks, houses erected in later years really lack any feeling. For the Millennium there were so many commemoratory things that could have been built but that all to often towns and city's simply found big rocks and put plaques on them the "celibrate" the occasion, that sums it up really. The faceless shopping mall architicture that is everywhere in its wipe-clean-pastel-tone way show this breakdown of indentity. So I do look back at past eras(what else can we compare ourselves to) and see almost every new generation has a look. People have mostly celebrated the future and put the past in the past. The mass rebuilding of Britain, between the fifties and sixties saw some amazing places built. I totally agree the most of it was ugly as f**k, but the sharp,hard edged intruders had a real presence and force behind them that todays carefully-planned eye-friendly mush lacks by the ton. These, as our surroundings do go further than just sight (Feng Shui etc... anyone?) and they don't say much for a state of mind do they. Once you start getting interested in this stuff you see so many links. Is it any wonder that with all the unspoken laws hanging over us (the way we make our world look,both physically and in our forced mindsets) that so many feel a weak sense of identity and culture. I'm saying this stuff, I'm nineteen and my arguement does not arise from a rose-tinted-glasses point of view. I wasn't there, use that against me if you like, as I want to know what you think. My next post will perhaps be a little more B+S inspired and I won't have two bugs making eyes at each other on the monitor as I write. James Danson-Hatcher. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Tue Aug 27 11:09:36 2002 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 11:09:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Last gig of the year Message-ID: <00e501c24db1$da1ed8c0$686c43d4@neil> Hello, Don't know if there's many Italians on this list, but if there is, they might be interested to learn that B&S will be performing at the Enzimi Festival in Rome on September 15th. It's a free gig. If you give Katrina a couple of hours to have a coffee and update the site there will doubtlessly be a link to wherever you get the tickets. Look at www.banchory.net/belleandsebastian/news.html It seems to me that Tindersticks are very possibly playing too, but my Italian isn't that good, so I might be wrong. Cheers, Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Tue Aug 27 13:14:36 2002 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:14:36 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Happy Birthday You Message-ID: Sinister, Today is Sinister's 5th birthday, finally, for real, and I thought day 1826 or something of Sinister could be the day I could break all the list rules and send a short somewhat FAQ-breaking mail. I just wanted to say happy birthday, and don't really know what else to say. I'll ramble for a bit then retire in embarrassed silence, coughing and rearranging flowers on the windowsill. I'm not really up to counting properly (maybe there's a Sinister Statistician chewing a Sinister Pencil somewhere), but I'd take a rough guess that the Sinister archive since August 27th 1997 contains 24,000 messages. Multiplied out by the average number of people who've been on this list, I'd guess that my poor tired little mail servers have sent more than 20 million messages in the course of their 5 year childhood. I'm not sure if when the servers hit 15, get spots and start to hang out drinking cans of cheap lager outside the chippy they'll be so happy to do so (I expect some fairly surly error messages), but I'd like to thank the little darlings for their tireless work. Of course really I'd like to thank YOU all because you all joined the list, made the list, and kept the list going, but I'm a bit embarrassed and don't know how to put it. Just.. you know. My best friends for life have been made through Sinister. Some of you have said the loveliest things, but I've gained more from Sinister than anyone and consider it an incredibly lucky and unlikely thing to happen to me, and maybe a life-saver. All it was was an idle thought on a Thursday afternoon, and not a very original one. You made it all what it is, and you should thank the flowers, not the gardener. I've been pretty much a silent mum retired to bed with valium and vodka, and I'm aware how rubbish I've been. I've been poking away in the background fixing stuff and keeping it going, and Linda's been her own sweet self keeping everything going publically. Things have and continue to be pretty impossible in the world outside Sinister, but I couldn't not mail on day 1826. Happy Birthday Sinister. Honey xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Tue Aug 27 14:27:14 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:27:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Happy Birthday You In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Today is also my birthday! Happy birthday Sinister! And happy birthday to me! Anyone else born today? x > From: honey at xxx.org > Reply-To: honey at missprint.org > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:14:36 +0100 (BST) > To: sinister at missprint.org > Subject: Sinister: Happy Birthday You > > Sinister, > > Today is Sinister's 5th birthday, finally, for real, and I thought > day 1826 or something of Sinister could be the day I could break all > the list rules and send a short somewhat FAQ-breaking mail. I just > wanted to say happy birthday, and don't really know what else to say. > I'll ramble for a bit then retire in embarrassed silence, coughing and > rearranging flowers on the windowsill. > > I'm not really up to counting properly (maybe there's a Sinister > Statistician chewing a Sinister Pencil somewhere), but I'd take > a rough guess that the Sinister archive since August 27th 1997 > contains 24,000 messages. Multiplied out by the average number of > people who've been on this list, I'd guess that my poor tired little > mail servers have sent more than 20 million messages in the course > of their 5 year childhood. I'm not sure if when the servers hit 15, > get spots and start to hang out drinking cans of cheap lager outside > the chippy they'll be so happy to do so (I expect some fairly surly > error messages), but I'd like to thank the little darlings for their > tireless work. Of course really I'd like to thank YOU all because > you all joined the list, made the list, and kept the list going, but > I'm a bit embarrassed and don't know how to put it. Just.. you know. > > My best friends for life have been made through Sinister. Some of > you have said the loveliest things, but I've gained more from Sinister > than anyone and consider it an incredibly lucky and unlikely thing to > happen to me, and maybe a life-saver. All it was was an idle thought > on a Thursday afternoon, and not a very original one. You made it > all what it is, and you should thank the flowers, not the gardener. > > I've been pretty much a silent mum retired to bed with valium and > vodka, and I'm aware how rubbish I've been. I've been poking away > in the background fixing stuff and keeping it going, and Linda's been > her own sweet self keeping everything going publically. Things have > and continue to be pretty impossible in the world outside Sinister, > but I couldn't not mail on day 1826. Happy Birthday Sinister. Honey xxx > > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Hewitt at xxx.uk Tue Aug 27 13:57:57 2002 From: S.Hewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:57:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: well developed... Message-ID: ello babies This first one is me on my own, a saturday morning exactly one week before i got married, three and a bit years ago, it's grey and overcast and I look much the same. Inexplicably the small bowlie boy b&s badge I'm wearing is upside down, but it is bright and shiny having been purchased only a few weeks earlier. The other badge next to it says "lost the plot". I'm sat on a wall by a large blue building in sussex wondering what i am doing here with five people i've never met before or since. This one is from twelve hours later and I'm surrounded by smiling laughing drunkards, several of whom also have badges on upside down. A large devonian is having an indepth conversation about country music, and an older man is being mistaken for john peel. i am also smiling and laughing (and drunk). In the background there is tarting and smut. The last one in this set is very blurry. It's a dreary Monday morning and the picture shows me in the back of a car, heading towards leicester, of all places. I look very much the worse for wear. I'm looking at my arm wondering whether having chest pains and pins and needles in my arm is a sign of good health, but despite looking a bit green, i'm also looking quite smug, because I've found a whole new world of people, people who like (some of) the same stuff as me, people i don't have to explain the working of strange modern interweb mailling lists to, people who understand. On my coat next to the other badges is one that, eventually, we worked out was for a six by seven single, it says "two and a half days in love with you". There are piles more here, let me pick out a few more. Several of them are similar, in that they show a varying group of people, sometimes smaller, sometimes larger, sitting on some grass. The pictures are from quite a distance away, in order to get everyone in, but they all seem to have too many tubes of pringles and lots of empty cans and bottles in. The biggest pile though, just show me sat at my desk at work, staring at the screen. In some of them I'm trying to stifle a laugh, in some of them i just look a bit confused, and in some I look concerned, but they're all as important as the other pictures. In this one I'm being rained on, so are the 4 or 5 people with me. I look very tired, but then it is about three o'clock in the morning, and several hours after I made a goshdarned fool of myself by being sick in the middle of the pub. Despite all this, I am still, just about, happy to be here, in a strange town several hundred miles from home. at the edge of the still upside down badge you can just make out a little brown patch developing where the driving glaswegian rain has started to make it rusty. This one is different to all the others. It's from almost a year ago and it's of my bedroom in Oxford and I'm sat at my computer. The television has been pulled through from the lounge and is showing a repeating set of images from the day's terrible events. I'm staring intently at the computer screen where you can just make out the window of a chat programme. On the right hand side where there is usually seven or eight names, there is a screen full. Fortunately all the usual names from new york are there. One of the people in the UK has just phoned one of the american's parents who are on holiday in Ireland to tell them he is ok, because the phone lines (amongst other things) aren't working in new york. I've just got this last one back from snappy snaps, who do a very good deal on ink polaroids, better than boots anyway. It shows about 35 people in a room over a pub in London. In the corner there is a delicious looking chocolate cake with "happy 5th birthday sinister" iced on it, in expert fashion. everyone in the room is singing "happy birthday" and a small boy who looks a bit handy with a bowling ball is about to blow the candles out. Strangely most of the other pics from the evening, especially those featuring a certain birmingham-based poster, seem to have been mislaid by the good folks at snappy snaps, I wonder what the vice squad van was doing next to the shop... I think that's enough for now, but massive !P!R!O!P!S! to stevie t for organising sunday nite and to all those who turned up also. here's to another five years. I love you all, but especially you, over there in the corner, watching us all. xoxo CarsmileSteve **************************************************************************** For the latest City Lit news & information, please visit our website www.citylit.ac.uk **************************************************************************** The City Literary Institute Registered Office: 16 Stukeley Street, London WC2B 5LJ Registered in England no: 2471686 Registered Charity no: 803007 *************************************************** PRIVACY AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. *************************************************** This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. The message and any files transmitted with it are intended only for the use of the recipient or organisation to whom it is addressed. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Tue Aug 27 14:49:41 2002 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:49:41 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: Sinister: happy birthday us Message-ID: You say it's your birthday... it's my birthday too yeah. The Sinister garden has indeed produced all manner of exotic blooms and rampaging, unruly weeds in the last five years. And whatever the modest darling might say, it would have been just a nasty old patch of empty scrubland without Honey's and Linda's gentle watering and pruning. But as it is I think we can all proudly accept the Best Kept Garden In Cyberspace on behalf of the Sinister Village :) I'm sure I wasn't the only one with a wee lump in my throat on Sunday as a roomful of familiar voices were raised in song and Ken blew out our five candles on the underwear-adorned cake so lovingly baked by Liz... ... but of course, we were all pissed as newts, so you can't read too much into that. The weather had smiled on Primrose Hill that day (by the time we actually hauled our collective ass up there from the pub), and there was football and frisbee and trying not to swear in front of our youngest (but by far the coolest) picnicker, Hazel. Then there was dancing and gossip and sweat and all that sordid business. BOYS made ME blush on TWO separate occasions during the evening, so you can imagine how debauched it must have been. Sadly I had to leave early to ensure my sober, dignified presence in Brighton by the time The In-Laws arrived. I will leave it to other pens/keyboards to describe the rest. But to paraphrase Hilaire Belloc, I hope it will be said: 'OUR PANTS WERE SCARLET, BUT OUR POSTS WERE READ'. I must go now, as I have urgent business to attend to in Birmingham. It may be dangerous (business in Birmingham usually is). If I come back alive, I'll tell you all about it. luv Archel ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. Email submissions to buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snowy_theband at xxx.com Tue Aug 27 17:01:04 2002 From: snowy_theband at xxx.com (snowy .) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:01:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Happy Birthday us. Message-ID: Hazel really enjoyed the picnic. She had wanted to stay in and watch videos but I persuaded (forced?) her to leave the flat. About 10 minutes after getting to Primrose Hill she told me she was having a great time, and started insisting that it was her idea to go to the picnic and that she had persuaded me not to stay inside. Little tinker! But you know, you really didn't need to watch your language around her. One of the first things she asked when we got there was whether any of the people said "fuck". Not that she's foul-mouthed, she just likes to know where she stands with people. So you were all watching your P's & Q's around her, and she was doing the same! Whadda buncha DONUTS! _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vicky at xxx.org Tue Aug 27 18:51:31 2002 From: vicky at xxx.org (Vicky) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:51:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Now we are five Message-ID: When we were one We told our mums That elephants Had big grey bums When we were two We got new shoes They sparkled like New pink shoes do When we were three We climbed up trees Then fell back down And hurt our knees When we were four Our teeth were sore We tied some string Around the door Now we are five Good God alive! We must be good Now we are five Happy Birthday Sinister love you all VB xx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Aug 27 22:07:46 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Bandwagon space hopper Message-ID: <20020827210746.64318.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Happy Birthday. ******pencil polaroid (its only a sketch)****** Its June 2001. I'm on my own. Its slightly overcast, and theres a chance of rain. Some bloke called Ally Cook sent me to the wrong underground train station. It took me ages to get the nerve to text message him in the first place. I got off a stop too late, and was surrounded by pavements in disrepair, and strangers were wandering past staring at me (well, i guess I was the stranger), I was almost ready to go home and forget the whole situation, that only I could be embarrassed by, but felt the whole world knew it anyway. Eventually I phoned him, and Ally sent me to the right train station. and now here I am, with 60 odd people. I'm sitting on a slope of grass, in a park somewhere in Glasgow. I'm feeling pretty nervous, and not entirely sure how to make face-to-face conversation with people who might only know me for my online ego, and they all seem quiet. I feel like I've walked in on a massive conversation and now nobody knows what to say. 60 odd people? yes they are a bit I guess. A young Inverness boy in a blue BSPD tshirt and red corduroy flares, and has his little paws wrapped around me, telling me something to boost my ego, and is putting a pink featherboa around my neck. Theres a bloke from West Calder and a journalist from Perth sitting slightly down slop to my left. Up slope to the left, I can see someone with blonde plaited bunches, and a pink feather stolen from the featherboa sticking out the bottom and specs, smiling. further along, theres an architect in a dapper looking suit. Close by is a man so well known, he has a cult to call his own. I like his specs. Behind me, at the top of the slope, theres Keith. The only one I actually know. Theres a young woman with an excitable spaniel pup thats overcoming any inhibitions of picnic shyness and getting straight to business with anyone in sight. Nearby, is Honey and Linda, watching over the proceedings. Its 4pm on a Saturday afternoon. Some boys get together to play football. I'm waiting for my man. Theres a gig on tonight. I don't know it yet, but by the end of the night, I'm going to have a bruise that feels like the size of Kelvingrove Park on my forehead that will hurt when i frown for a week. It will be the result of some boy singer throwing sticks of rock into the audience. And I don't even catch the bloody thing. Ouch. ********************** love, Kristin (joined December 1999) ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ruthmaverick at xxx.com Wed Aug 28 12:24:48 2002 From: ruthmaverick at xxx.com (Ruth Allan) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:24:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: chickfactor at the end of september. Message-ID: Hey sinister I apologise if this has already gone out but i am so out of touch lately. Chickfactor (www.chickfactor.com), some kind of NY (?) magazine that no doubt loads of people know about is having a party in london, in shepard's bush's brilliant bush hall. Now Cat Power played at this superb venue earlier this year and it really is the most completely amazing, fantastic and wonderful place of chandeliers and romance and well, you can;t help but look cool in such a great setting. i did try to buck the trend by sliding down the back wall and wearing an three year old faded and slightly too small black shirt, but none the less had a sublime evening, and a lot of that feeling came from the venue. and chickfactor, next to rollercoaster ride is my favourite song, so I';m going. tickets on sale for london! the chickfactor black and white ball at bush hall in london september 28: camera obscura, the montgolfier brothers, would-be-goods, pipas september 29: future bible heroes, the clientele, a girl called eddy, the pines tickets �10 per night or �17 for two-night pass; 7:45 showtime - tickets from bush hall box office 011.44.208.222.6933 ( for uk callers call 192 and ask for bush hall...) rx _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Wed Aug 28 13:57:30 2002 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 13:57:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hair's too much muff (r.b.) Message-ID: (Reporting back...) On sinister's 5th Birthday Auntie Sadie brought the adorable 5 year old a great big present inside a great big box! Inside it was something pretty sepecial - it was a camcorder that's shaped like a pen! What's more, instead of battery powered, it eats up ink like there's no tomorrow. And that was just after I bought 16 batteries for a quid on Tottenham Court Road - it was okay though, because a boy had nipped down to WHSmith's and got some ink in time to make a film. I plugged the tape into the player and turned on the telly and gasp! It was porno! Then I realised that I put in "Star Trek - the next penetration" tape in by accident. So instead I put in the Sinister tape into the recorder, and GASP! It was porno! Just after I pressed play, I was greeted by a naked young man putting on a pair of Spiderman pants! Not only were they red, if you pause the tape and look closely you can see something that you really don't want to see, and also, that the label of his pants said 7-8 years old, and that's pretty small! Soon after that all I could see was Highgate tube station bopping up and down - it looked like the boy hadn't found the stabiliser button yet as he walked to the station - he then took a look around to see if anyone were to follow him there, there wasn't - but then! When he looked forward again Sam Walton appeared on the screen, who said "alright!" Abruptly (the crossfade button didn't seem to have worked), the scene changed to two gorgeous girls and a gorgeous boy sitting at a table outside a pub - one of the girls, who was wearing a very nice Red T-shirt, had multiple pints of beer lined up in front of her. The boy seemingly had forgotten to press pause when he placed the camera on the table, and thus recorded all of the random yet witty conversations that occured. For some reason though the camera was pointing directly at a girl's boobs all that time. "Oh shit!" we heard from the boy before the scene once again suddenly changed, this time to a beatuiful view of London - gorgeous girls all on the top of a hill - shame about the buildings in the background which looked ugly in comparison. Many people there looked very shy and quiet, until a little girl climbed onto her daddy's head and said "Hello Everybody!" to everybody, and they all smiled and waved back at her. The camera then just spent the whole time either wandering about the hill, or getting put onto the floor and filming a wine bottle being picked up - how artistic! Until we then all followed the camera running down a hill and eventually coming to a halt, with a boy in purple trousers shouting "WHERE SHALL WE PUT THE GOAL?" before explaining how he didn't want to get his new glasses smashed. Wow, the next half an hour was pure excitement - 30 minutes of pure soccer action - until we see the same guy in the purple trousers kicking a football really hard, and in a typical You've Been Framed stylee, the ball hurtled right against the lenses of the Camera! Either because of that football incident, or because the boy has once again showed his cinematic flair by putting on a special lens that are known as "Beer Googles", everything looked slightly tilted from then on and the auto-focus function went haywire. We then heard a wise man's voice saying "Let's go to the Betsey Trotwood!" After a beautiful shot of a tube train arriving we filmed a train bobbling up and down through a tunnel - apparently someone else had made a even better film involving a man from Birmingham performing Pole dancing, against a pole on the tube train, but that's a totally different movie. Soon after the film started to turn surreal - it was as if someone was dancing to some great music whilst holding a camera, whilst shouting "COME AND DANCE!" really loud repeatedly and annoyingly. Then, finally, probably, the best moment in the film, an ambient chorus of "Happy Birthday to you" was the only thing that could accompany the exceedingly delightful chocolate cake, on it were five candles and letters that wrote "Sinister Happy 5th Birthday". A boy took a deep breath and managed to blow the candles out, then everyone cheered whilst he was catching his breath. The cake was then stabbed in an evil manner by a knife on a bikechain, before being cut into bits and eaten - how sinister! And then there was a scene of people bopping up and down to some top tunes, and we can hear the boy go "ohhh on more pleeeeease" as the camera turned to the barman who said "Can you make it the last song please?". And "Happy New Year" by Camera Obscura faded into The Boy with the Arab Strap. The last scene of the film was yet another of a tube train this time heading towards Highgate - and seemingly the boy had finally found where the fade out button was.... Reporting Back and Red Bulls Ken +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geniusoflove at xxx.com Wed Aug 28 14:57:32 2002 From: geniusoflove at xxx.com (Rob S.) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:57:32 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: oh sinister, my cat is throwing up yellow bile all over my (already) stained carpet as I write this, giving me a weird sort of inspiration. I've been caught in such a slump this summer, not that it hasn't been great fun, it's just been so... disillusioning??? I guess apathy would be the most appropriate word to describe it, though i don't want to cheapen the feeling or make it cliche by applying such a tweeish and oh-so-early-twenties word to it. sometimes everything just looks so bleak and hopeless, and god, society is such a hole. I agree terribly much with Mr.James Danson-Hatcher, and his thoughts on the current state of our culture. it's especially easy to see where I live, all of the independently run establishments have been driven out by big faceless box-stores, and the awful suburban sprawl just keeps growing and growing... but i refuse to fall prey to nostalgia, so looking back is forsure not the answer. (what is though?) on the opposite end of these darkday feelings, i sometimes get so caught up in the whole random beauty of it all that i feel like imploding (??). just like misc. bus rides or skies that don't ever end or smoking a joint on a sunny Saturday morning with your best-friend and playing piss-ants for a day. and things like: >and that autumn won't stay away forever. > >i miss sweater weather. i miss wearing long woolly scarves with occasional >yellow leaf stacked on it. i miss feeling rain on my face and hands. i miss >the sounds that wind makes when it's angry. i miss cats meowing to me on >dark alleys. i miss meowing them back. i miss chestnuts dropping. i miss >piles of colourful leaves and me in them. i even miss struggles with >umbrellas outside in the cold rain. >i miss those who i love. a constant ache it is. i'm afraid that i start to >forget all these small things i like about my friends if i don't see them >that often. but it's not so bad because i still want to remember all those >things. i want to keep in contact and tell them things about everyday life. >i want to make them happy. and i know they feel the same way about me and >that is a most important thing in friendship. that and trust. (etc.etc.etc.) yes sinister chumps, this wee list does remind one of the more appealing aspects of life, and for that I'm a pap-happy boy. so yes, these past couple weeks have been great, and it feels like I've been crawling out of a dirty ditch I've been in for quite long enough, (though in ways I was glad to be there) hope everybody is at least feeling. enjoy the end of summer!! , rob p.s. good news, Calvin Johnson is playing a show at my house!! how ridiculous!!!!!! so anyone in the Hamilton area e-mail me and come down. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mr_zarabowski at xxx.uk Wed Aug 28 15:46:39 2002 From: mr_zarabowski at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?stout=20robin?=) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:46:39 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Desmond Tutu stole my hosepipe Message-ID: <20020828144639.7565.qmail@web21504.mail.yahoo.com> Someone must have stolen my pen on Sunday night, because when I got onto the train I found an ink polaroid shakily written on the back of my train ticket*: The lights are low and the exposure must have been long because most people are a blur of dancing hands and feet. At the decks a boy with dark hair and a cheeky smile spins some vinyl. He is proper wicked at this and sparks fly from his fingers as he seamlessly melts from record to record. In the corner, silhouetted in the lamplight from the window, a girl in red fuck-me shoes sits next to a boy with a smile on his face. On the boy's knee sits another boy. He doesn't have a smile on his face but has really gay hair. Hmm. That's enough of that. Happy Birthday Everyone! I'm always late for the party, you know. I'll just sit here in this crumpled old party hat holding this shrivelled up old ballon which looks like grandad's willy. Happy Birthday Stuart as well. I think so, anyway. big props to everyone i met on sunday Robin x *obviously someone stole my trane ticket too and managed to slip it into my back pocket without me noticing. That might have been that "goose" I was telling you about. Oh well I guess I'm not so lucky after all... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Wed Aug 28 15:58:07 2002 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: ulla pretty much took the words out of my mouth, but i'll chime in anyway... Message-ID: <20020828145807.20764.qmail@web13801.mail.yahoo.com> heyhey sinisters, it's been awhile since i've spoken up i know, but the ocassion calls for it. simply put, i love you all. some of you have touched me deeply, in a way i'll never truly be able to express. your words and your love. we aren't alone. and even though we are all different, and we all have our own lives and troubles, we are in this TOGETHER. we are united by a bond of music and hopes. in this difficult time period in human history, we are holding eachother's hands over the communication channels. hugs, friendly waves, long distance smiles... thank you so much, ALL of you. thank you for being good, loving, sensitive, poetic people. perhaps one day the entire earth will be Sinister? :) i'll see you all in the pub tonight in my dreams, and we'll sing songs & dance till dawn... .caleb ben aka RAW ===== "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a harder battle." ~Plato "Love does not consist of gazing at each other, but in looking together in the same direction." -Antoine de Saint-Exupery __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Wed Aug 28 17:54:46 2002 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:54:46 EDT Subject: Sinister: I used to be dead but now I'm gay Message-ID: <17.2d850c98.2a9e5a57@aol.com> Hewwo, Wow. 5 years old. I member when I first joined sinister and I was 14 and it was the second birthday and I didn't get what all the fuss was about. I didn't even own red underwear then. I do now. So I'm in Philidelphia which is in America somewhere. It's a long story, but I've been here for nearly three weeks now. My friend met a boy on the internet, and flew out to live with him here after she'd only met him twice. And then asked me if I wanted to come visit since I don't really have anywhere I can live because of someone who mostly wants me dead. And so I used up all of my wages from my job which I hated to buy a ticket, then I left there. So a lot of the days I'm sitting in the public library or the municipal services building trying not to watch them making out which gets a bit lonely but hey. Except today I stayed home to play the guitar. Although soon I will have a place to live. It will be Dundee, because on the 13th I found out that my highers went not too bad so I can go and be a dentist and ask Johnjohn if he wants to be in a band with me. I thought I'd never ever go to university. I always figured I'd be in a timewarp of high school, getting picked on by the hard kids. But my friend that I'm here with says that at university people don't set you on fire and stuff, or try and kill you so much, and if they do she'll throw them off a bridge or something. But I have to go back to glasgow soon. It won't be long though so long as I can avoid the person who wants me dead who will be angry at me going to uni because he tried to make me fail my exams. It will be difficult but I think I can do it. I have a birthday soon which means that I can be a hellraiser and go on a bout of underage drinking, and buy oranges and throw them on the road and other rock and roll shennanigans. I don't think I'll have a cake though, since they don't really make vegan birthday cakes. I'm getting withdrawal for the moldy peaches. They're really really good. They make me smile. There's a lot of scary weirdos here. Like last week this nutcase came up to me and said he wanted to make a sculpture of me and would I come round to his house. And also some guy started chasing me shouting 'youre beautiful' and trying to touch my hair and i got very nervous. I also acquired a stalker. I still haven't bought Storytelling because I lack funds. I thought I'd have lots of money from working in New Look for ages but then I went to America instead. Ok well I'm being quite boring but before I go let me tell you about the kittens that live here. One is called Scorpion and he's cream and he's mental and anti social (so i like him best) and the other one is called Sub Zero and he is all cute and cuddly and he is on my lap right now. I wish I had a baby cat to look after. Although I've got something even better. I've got a tarantula. Hugs, Jen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From oooon at xxx.com Wed Aug 28 17:58:12 2002 From: oooon at xxx.com (oon) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 23:58:12 +0700 Subject: Sinister: Singing in the Bus Message-ID: <3D6D0124.979F0D27@cscoms.com> Happy 5 years to us! i really shouldn't be writing anything outside homework right now but how can i not commemorate this special occasion. even not thinking of the entertainment we have, to do/be with something for 5 years is quite an achievement in itself! not having sharp enough memory/language skill to effectively decribe my impression of the good time here, the only thing i can do is send Thai news again. this time is about a bus (probably the most b&s related thing i've ever write!) the tv news today have a report on this bus that could be called a mobile Stars in Your Eyes. the bus driver and the bus conductor like singing very much. they decided to equip their bus with full karaoke devices - tv, vcd player, sound system, microphone (wireless, if i see correctly), bus (pun by foreigner!) loads of karaoke songs in many kinds of music. the bus conductor will announce from times to times if any passenger would like to sing and which song, then arrange singing queqe so that everyone will get to sing before the bus reaches their destination. then the news show clips of passengers singing. then the bus conductor singing. too bad the driver don't get to sing too. he must sacrifice for the safety of the world. i'm celebrating the 5 years too. because there's no one else here, i have to celebrate on my own. first by quiting my painful job, at last! after being here for five years too. coincidence? probably, but it's good point all the same. there've been various outings to celebrate my independence. this is by all means the most grown up decision i've ever made in my life. i now finally feel as grown up as people my age feel, i think. then, Pet Shop Boys came to town early on. they played loads of new and old favourites and i was so happy to get to hear them live. weird that people from different area of the arena had totally different opinions of the show. ranging from walking out after 5 songs to overly overjoy (me!). the length of stay in the beer garden outside might contribute to that but not really much. i'm so looking forward to next week because i won't have to go to work any more. thus, all the time in the world to do my beloved homework. this feels like the beginning of a new era. not just because of being jobless but also because the tiny thing that have been annoying my vision for years have finally been removed today. rather painful but very good mentally. next goal is to make myself wear glasses and see the world clearly as it actually is. actually, i don't really want to see the world clearer i only want to see the stair clearer and hopefully less intimidating. must go back to homework before i start another diary. good times to you all, oon xx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From puluxxx at xxx.com Thu Aug 29 12:05:58 2002 From: puluxxx at xxx.com (pulu xxx) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 04:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: i think i smell a rat Message-ID: <20020829110558.8305.qmail@web9807.mail.yahoo.com> hello, yesterday was my last day at work. i got sort of used to going there every morning, so now it feels a bit strange. i also started talking to people more during the last weeks. it kind of started getting better. now i�m at uni library writing this and i think i�d rather be at work, cos uni doesn�t feel good. and it�s a bit of a shame, cos i used to love this library, but it just reminds me of studying, and i�m not certain whether i want to anymore, to study. tomorrow is my birthday. it�s also my mum�s birthday. i don�t really expect to get anything, but i�d like to get a present though. my parents always ask me what i want, so it�s a bit boring, cos it�s not a surprise. i�m a bit scared though, i mean to see whether my x remembers it, or whether he�ll wish me happy birthday, but i know that he won�t. and i�m scared how it�ll make me feel. i wished him happy birthday a month ago. i�m supposed to go home tomorrow, but i don�t think i want to. i bought myself a present though, a cd �white blood cells� by the white stripes. i took a bath and dragged my stereos to the bathroom, and listened to it while bathing and dyeing my hair(red). last friday i went to see air guitar world championships and this one architect from london, who won the competition �played� to that white stripes song �fell in love with a girl�, and i thought it sounded so good, so i had to get the cd. i had a really good time there. and i thought i looked nice, i was wearing a sfa t-shirt and sandals and a skirt and a cardigan, and i think one boy looked at me. but i�m not so sure, cos i was a bit tipsy. but i really liked being there. i think i�ll buy myself this one swedish book, it�s a bit dirty, but i think i should learn the vocabulary, cos i might (hopefully) some day need to translate some dirty stuff into swedish, so i should learn. i think i�ll stop now. happy belated birthday to sinister too :), love, puluxxxxxxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snowy_theband at xxx.com Thu Aug 29 15:11:31 2002 From: snowy_theband at xxx.com (snowy .) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:11:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Golden leaves, coffee and carrot cake Message-ID: "i miss sweater weather. i miss wearing long woolly scarves with occasional yellow leaf stacked on it. i miss feeling rain on my face and hands. i miss the sounds that wind makes when it's angry. i miss cats meowing to me on dark alleys. i miss meowing them back. i miss chestnuts dropping. i miss piles of colourful leaves and me in them. i even miss struggles with umbrellas outside in the cold rain. " Yes, yes, yes! I cannot wait for the autumn. The sun just melts me. Nothing touches that feeling of the first overcast day of September. Walking on Hampstead Heath, wrapped in a warm coat and scarf. Stopping at the top of Parliament Hill to look over the city. Everything looks sharper and more vivid to me in the Autumn. I feel more awake. Going to Highgate woods, coffee and carrot cake in the cafe, and then a walk through the trees. Last year Hazel and I gathered chestnuts from Hampstead Heath and roasted them at home. I LOOOOOOOOVE the autumn. I've really cheered up now. Thanks Ulla. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mr_zarabowski at xxx.uk Thu Aug 29 15:31:54 2002 From: mr_zarabowski at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?stout=20robin?=) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:31:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Singing in the Bus In-Reply-To: <3D6D0124.979F0D27@cscoms.com> Message-ID: <20020829143154.38847.qmail@web21510.mail.yahoo.com> I liked oon's story about bus karaoke. We used to have a bus driver in Nottingham who would sing Elvis songs as he drove about town. He was the best, but he didn't like it if you tried to join in. There was a report in the Cardiff Echo the other week about a "youth" who stole a bus from the bus depot. Apparently he drove it around for two hours, picking up passengers and pretending to be a bus driver. By the time they caught him he'd made 150 pounds in bus fares and the passengers hadn't realised he wasn't the proper driver despite the fact that "he kept hitting the kerb and didn't appear to know where he was going." I once saw an advert in the Echo's Classified Ads for "plastic bags - 5p each". bye Robinx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mental_sarah at xxx.com Thu Aug 29 17:18:18 2002 From: mental_sarah at xxx.com (sarah dorman) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:18:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: chickfactor at the end of september. Message-ID: box office 011.44.208.222.6933 >( for uk callers call 192 and ask for bush hall...) this is the uk number 020 8222 6933 it is the above number minus the international code sorry for the list abuse sarah _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From prbar at xxx.com Thu Aug 29 18:14:05 2002 From: prbar at xxx.com (Philip Runion) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:14:05 -0400 Subject: Sinister: chickfactor at the end of september. Message-ID: Sinister, This accompanied my Other Music update yesterday, if any one is interested. CHICKFACTOR BLACK + WHITE BALL Ten Year Anniversary Soiree (at Fez in NYC) www.chickfactor.com Friday, 10/25: Lois Pipas Bridget St. John Honeybunch plus special guests Buy: http://www.othermusic.com/perl-bin/OM/CD_Add_To_Cart.cgi?sku=09999183442&refer_url=email Saturday, 10/26: Would-Be-Goods All Girl Summer Fun Band Legendary Jim Ruiz Gilmore Tamny plus special guests Buy: http://www.othermusic.com/perl-bin/OM/CD_Add_To_Cart.cgi?sku=09999183452&refer_url=email Sunday, 10/27: Future Bible Heroes Fashion Show The Aluminum Group Cover Girls (all star cover band featuring Fontaine, Kendall, Phoebe, Anna, Lois, Lupe, Pam, Jessica, Jennifer, Linda, Sue, etc.) plus special guests Buy: http://www.othermusic.com/perl-bin/OM/CD_Add_To_Cart.cgi?sku=09999183462&refer_url=email Discount 3-Day Pass: Buy: http://www.othermusic.com/perl-bin/OM/CD_Add_To_Cart.cgi?sku=09999183472&refer_url=email Fez 380 Lafayette (at Great Jones) New York, NY www.feznyc.com Showtime 8pm; Tickets are $12 per night; 3-day pass is $26 ($1 per ticket surcharge at Other Music store; $2 per ticket surcharge from othermusic.com). When purchasing tickets from the Other Music website, please disregard the automated shipping and handling charge that will appear at the end of your web transaction. Tickets bought on-line will be at the will call at fez on the night of show. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Thu Aug 29 21:06:17 2002 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 20:06:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Just like the man who's feet are too big for his bed Message-ID: Hello Sinister. I finally got back to my house on Monday afternoon, after all the fifth birthday celebrations. I turned on the radio and was greeted by �Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head�. It�s such a bloody wonderful tune, and lyrically is just what I like; I�m a sucker for a lovely melody and a things-are-shit-but-hey-you-gotta-move-on message. ��I�m never gonna stop the rain by complainin��� has been sung in the shower every day this week (the smart arses among you will no doubt want to tell me that the way to stop the rain in a shower is to turn off the tap, but anyway), and the song is generally imbedded in my psyche now. So hearing �Raindrops�� moved me to dig out my copy of the Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid soundtrack, by Burt Bacharach (from which the song is taken, natch), and suddenly, whilst listening to it on the bus today, I realised that I�m a bit bored of songs with words in. What seems to float my boat these days is musical themes, recurring motifs, dynamics, orchestras, and not tales of boy-meets-girl in rhyming couplets. Of course, I still adore songs with words in, but I haven�t heard anything new which makes me go �wow� for a very long time. It�s probably a phase, and one that will be shattered by the next B&S release, but for the moment, Storytelling is, by far and away, my favourite B&S album. I even listened to the other four just to check, but I�m right, y�know. To me, it just sounds so much more accomplished, and like a whole album rather than just a collection of songs. It�s just, well, complete. To those who dismissed it � go on, give it another try. G�wan. G�wan g�wan. Y�will� etc. My sister gave birth to her second child yesterday, which was rather amazing. Now I�m an uncle, twice over, and it�s all very exciting. It�s a good piece of news, which is rather refreshing given the general theme of this summer. But I�m never going to stop the rain by complaining, so I won�t. Love Asm.x P.S. I was going to write a Birthday Post, with lots of Sinister-related top fives, but I never got around to it. But for posterity�s sake, here was my nigh-on-impossible-to-compile TOP 5 SINISTER POSTERS OF ALL TIME (in alphabetical order): 1. Ian Dimensionflip 2. The Pinefox 3. Archel Playforth 4. Stevie Trousers 5. Peter Miller ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy" - Mary Cohen _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Thu Aug 29 19:59:45 2002 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Los Angeles Area Listees, CHU are KENvited! Message-ID: <20020829185945.27783.qmail@web40302.mail.yahoo.com> HELLOOOOOOOO SINISTER! I'm writing this just as a reminder to anyone in the Los Angeles area, so if that's not you, don't bother reading any further and I'll try not to include any of my hilarious* puns or phrases that you might feel you missed out on later! Alrighty then, You might remember that Ben Apps and I are trying to organize a Red Knicker Day Picnic, and afterwards, attending the L.A. Galaxy Soccer Match--this Saturday at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena. Even if you never ever post, we'd love to see you there. I'm quite serious. Even if you can only come for the picnic part, or only for the soccer part, we'd be so excited if you'd join us! Bring friends! The plan is this: We shall meet at GATE A of the Rose Bowl at 3pm. I am recognizable by my short shaggy turquoise blue hair and my clean close shave. Ben is not recognizable by either of these things, but he'll be there, too. We hope to find a nice shady patch visible to Gate A to spread out a blanket and enjoy a nice picnic. This means that if you're planning to attend, you should probably bring something to eat and/or drink (hence the name "picnic"). Red knickers are optional, but a lot of fun to wear, so I would recommend it. Around 6 pm, we will be thinking about organizing some ticket purchases for the L.A. Galaxy match for that evening. If you just want to join us for the soccer, then if you arrive by 6, we should be in good shape. The game should be over by 8:45, and you should be out of there by 9:15 (I'd say at the latest), depending on traffic. Tickets may be purchased for $13 - $20 but we will work that out when we're all present as I know that there will be 2 season ticket holders in attendance (woo! Joe! Adrian!) Ben's plan is to start some good ol' fashioned British-stylee football chants to the tune of B&S songs... we'll see how this goes down. At the very least it will be entertaining to watch Ben do it. Plus, some of the other fans in the stands will be almost as engrossing as the game, so even if you don't follow soccer, you'd probably have fun anyway. It's an experience. Oh, and this is also your last chance to meet Ben this summer before he returns to London. Sure, he'll be back sometime towards the end of the year to stay and marry me, but "vacation Ben" is so alluring, you shouldn't pass up the opportunity to be in his presence! Let me or Ben (benapps at hotmail.com) know if you are planning to attend either portion of our meetup so we can look out for you, or even if you're just entertaining the idea. We can try to answer any questions that you might have. Savin' all my love for you (and CHU!), Rachel fruitloop *may be interchanged with "dorky" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Fri Aug 30 04:47:01 2002 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 10:47:01 +0700 Subject: Sinister: A good pun is it's own reword Message-ID: Hello, Dirty Dream #1??? Seems someone has gotten Tigermilk and TBWTAS a little mixed up on the allmusic website. Click on the link below and scroll down to the tracklisting: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Atwz8b594msqh Belle and Sebastian J-File If anyone in Australia wasn't listening to the J-File's last night, Richard announced that a Belle and Sebastian is on the agenda! It will be either late this year or earlyish next year I think. I can finally stop writing in the J-File Guestbook once a week. Are any of the other people who kept on requesting a B & S J-file on Sinister? bye now, terry PS. Up with Jimbocorp! ___________________________________________________ Communicate with others using Lycos Mail for FREE! http://mail.lycos.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Fri Aug 30 16:30:52 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:30:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: today In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >From today's daily Rolling Stone email... TODAY'S BIRTHDAYS PAUL OAKENFOLD, 39 ROCK ON TV (ALL TIMES EDT) CMT 8 p.m. Best of Austin City Limits: PATTY LOVELESS, ALISON KRAUSS 9 p.m. CMT Greatest Women of Country Music: DOLLY PARTON, LORETTA LYNN, LORRIE MORGAN MTV 10:45 p.m. Music in High Places: RYAN ADAMS NBC 11:35 p.m. The Tonight Show With Jay Leno: TWEET 12:35 a.m. Late Night With Conan O'Brien: BELLE AND SEBASTIAN VH1 9 p.m. That 70s Show: KISS Special So, all together now... Happy birthday Oakey!! Oh, and someone set the video, eh? That Dolly special sounds ace. x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com Fri Aug 30 21:09:11 2002 From: pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com (hannah brown) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 21:09:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the law of sod Message-ID: hello people, Happy birthday sinister (yes i know this is late), not only is this 5 years old, it is roughly 5 years ago that i got into b&s,(enter soft sigh as i stare out the window and hark back to those mark n lard days). Anyhow, just wanted to apologise for not being there on sunday, i have been blessed with a horrible virus which has made me bed ridden and generally very depressed. I read in Q the other day that Our Kid Isobel is releasing an album with someone, apparantly it's just Billi holiday covers, hhhhmmmmmmmmmm, that should be interesting??? I am also very excited because there is going to be a video release of a bunch of charlatans music vids, cripes! i dont even think that much of them any more but i am going to have to get it anyway and do a bit of dancing and quiet drooling,he he, yes i know i am sad. I am off on a mission to find a magazine called "careless talk costs lives" if anyone knows where it is sold that would be a help, thanks you lovely bunch of freshly baked muffins, hannah b _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mouser at xxx.net Fri Aug 30 22:37:13 2002 From: mouser at xxx.net (Shawn and Emily) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 22:37:13 +0100 (GMT/BST) Subject: Sinister: Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 17:40:16 -0400 Message-ID: Hello everybody. Just a quick message to say that the formerly Sinister Colin Thornton and Amy Bancroft will be married this Sunday, Sept. 1 (excactly one year to the day that they first met!). As some of you may remember, Colin sprung the question on stage at the Belle and Sebastian concert in Chicago and we all gasped and smiled and wept at the sheer beauty of it. If anyone has good wishes or advice for the soon-to-be newlyweds, please reply to me privately and I will forward it onto them. Best regards, Shawn +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rjg at xxx.com Sat Aug 31 02:47:31 2002 From: rjg at xxx.com (richard john gillanders) Date: 31 Aug 2002 01:47:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I travelled to a mystical time zone, but I missed my dad and I soon came home. Message-ID: <20020831014731.42533.qmail@toast.com> HELLo sinister... read these in any order you like. that's how I typed it. I crack me up. a moment ago I looked down the backs+sides of my couch+chairs, I found: two ten pence pieces two two pence pieces one one pence piece one stick of wrigley's doublemint chewing gum (in wrapper, unchewed) one black ballpoint pen with lid one two and a half inch paper clip one black plastic handled steak knife one almost full tube of 'bazuka' gel one unsharpened 'shocking pink' crayola colouring pencil I'm not sure I have ever been more disappointed in my life ever. for my trouble: the backs of my hands are frictioned up and quite pink. shocking. I'm going to america on tuesday. so. haha, sinister has been around for five years now! I haven't been a part of it for that length of time. well, I'm going to chicago, via amsterdam and detroit. and I'm going to get to milwaukee. and I'm going to stay there. until I can't anymore. and then I'll come home. via washington, d.c. and amsterdam and london. I'll stop in london for these chickfactor nights, too. I just thought of 'baywatch nights.' I've never seen an episode of that. my throat sort of hurts a bit. only joking. I really have met the nicest people I know because of sinister. y'know. it's weird. haha, not like it's weird. but, it sort of is. but I SO don't mind at all. weird is A-OKAY. I mean. I'm going to visit a girl. her name is kirsten marie kenyon. I haven't allowed myself much time to gain, to build up my excitement level just yet. I hope it doesn't come like the bends and make my head explode. or whatever the bends does. not 'the bends.' I already thanked honey and linda for THIS. I already did. but I was in a rush. the engine was running. but I think I said what I meant. meant what I said. kirsten marie kenyon should really, really post here sometime. I think a lot of people would appreciate it. not to put any pressure on her. not to. daniel farrell'd agree with me if he stopped his tommy de vito impressions for long enough. haha, and something about jimmy the gent. a more pleasant if less FUNNY nickname. I have too much to be grateful for. really. I wish I could convey this through the trousers-resurrected medium of ink polaroid. BUT I CAN'T. I thought polaroid went BUST recently. yeah, haha, but biro didn't. : ( I remember a 'joke' about polaroid too. and I just thought up another one of my own mandee wright visited the united kingdom recently. no wonder. I apologised to her at one point and then immediately wished I hadn't. why? I didn't need to. now I wish I could apologise for apologising. but I'm sure she knows I WASN'T ACTUALLY SORRY. we did some funny drawings on a brown paper bag. which reminds you. I mean, which reminds me. what sort of animal am I? I mean, what sort of animal are you? if I'm, say, a (/THE) bear...what are you? (n.b. musk ox, fish and tortoise are already taken) unfotunately, all of this makes more sense than its subject line. which, in itself, is nothing but sense. ALMOST. surprised that I won't still be on my own. next week. love, richard. p.s. my top five posters of all time------ 1. richard john gillanders 2. alasdair neil cook 3. alasdair neil cook 4. alasdair neil cook 5. alasdair neil cook actual p.s. THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL THAT STUFF. __________________________________________ Join http://www.toast.com today for your own free, flash-based webmail! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lickingrailings at xxx.com Sat Aug 31 17:08:31 2002 From: lickingrailings at xxx.com (Carl Brown) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:08:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: rome concert Message-ID: hey sinister just to say a quick hello, and was wondering whether anyone is going to see b & s FOR FREE!!!, YES FREE!!! (arent they just wonderful?) on sept 15th in rome? is there any sinisterines who would want to meet up or something? bye bye carl x _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sat Aug 31 17:27:52 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 09:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Save me from Surreality Message-ID: <20020831162752.65513.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> hello one and all, I miss all your fun, but I'll be out soon enough. As soon as I've bought my Autumn clothes wish list. Hide whatever you don't like, and look fantastic. started a blog, http://retrosec.blogspot.com John Denver is great to listen to, today. I was walking over the Bridges, and theres this big building, an old building, that looks as if its being demolished from the inside, for something else. And the sun was beautiful, and there was a cool wind. It reminded me of those lovely cold days in January, when its sunny. The ones I find so surreal. I find most days surreal. I miss Jeremy Breams, now hes gone back to Australia. I missed him most of all when I was walking over the bridge, in the wind, and the sun. I wished he was there to chat to and walk over the bridge with. Its over two months since he was here. It feels longer, it feels shorter. I remember it being around the time of the football cup thig world cup, wasn't it? that wasn't long ago. The bridge - its a fantastic bridge, in a way, its painted in red and blue, and half way over, it has this intricate brass type sculpting carved thingy, and has people in it with guns- its a bit over-dramatic, but it has some signifcance, becuase its supposed to be an image of something historical. Im useless at paying attention to why or what. Have you heard Jeremy Breams music? if not you really should. http://www.breams.co.uk hes got a good voice, I think. "Art Of Procrastination" is an ace song most of all. I almost had a plan you know. A plan for money. But then my phonebill arrived, and was �35 more than I had planned for. I need to cut down on texting. Its five years since I got ready for going to uni. I remember how it felt, the smells, the leaves, the concrete. I remember sitting on the steps in a Charlatans tshirt, in the late September sun, waiting for my belongings to arrive to my halls of residence room. There was this pretty girl there, so skinny, and so pretty, from Macclesfield. We looked a each other, then looked away. It was like being at school. I wanted to talk to her, but my parents were there, so I had to be cool and not too keen. She saw me too. We became friends soon after, and she said she remembered hoping I'd be in the room next to her, cos I looked like th sort of person she wanted to be friends and flatmates with. I hate empty weekends and surreal days. Love idles xx ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Sat Aug 31 17:55:02 2002 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (Andrea Kittenmouse) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 09:55:02 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Portland/tapes/manchester hostels Message-ID: Hi, How's it all going? I was wondering if anyone knows of a good hostel in Manchester, England that is close to the fun. I'm visiting there in October. Any shows coming up? You can write me off the list about that... Also, did anyone catch Kings of Convenience live when they toured the US recently? That was very nice (understatement, of course, they played perfectly). Also, more importantly, does anyone have a good quality tape of Belle and Sebastian's Portland, Oregon show from 9/11/01? Please contact me a.s.a.p. if you do (off the list). Thanks in advance... your friend, andrea kittenmouse radio (mondays 9.00-10.00 pm PST) kpsu 1450 am portland, oregon www.kpsu.org http://web.pdx.edu/~andreay _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From le_lotus_bleu at xxx.com Sat Aug 31 18:05:48 2002 From: le_lotus_bleu at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?B?RmxldXIgQulsYW5nZXI=?=) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:05:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: rome concert Message-ID: Hello! I've been living in Rome for 3 days now, I was very happy to know that Belle and Sebastian are coming to Rome. I'll go, that's for sure. As I don't know anyone here in Rome, I'll go by myself. I'd love to meet someone there. bye Flora _________________________________________________________________ Chiacchiera con gli amici online, prova MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.it +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From miss_karren_gill at xxx.com Sat Aug 31 18:14:20 2002 From: miss_karren_gill at xxx.com (Karren Gill) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:14:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: a first post Message-ID: hello sinister :) after reading your messages for a while, i thought its about time i stop lurking around and make the effort of writing a post as well. be warned this is not going to be long one cos its my first post. first of all, i just wanted to say a special 'hello' and give a great big humungous cyber-hug to miss amy longcore and mr. ken chu whom i met at the detroit and chicago b&s shows in may. can i just say what a pleasure it was meeting you both! you two rock!!! also, i probably should've posted this after the shows, but does anyone have pics from the detroit and chicago shows they'd like to trade for something or sell? in particular, i'm looking for photos of the two girls getting up on stage. if so, it would be great if you could get in touch! and finally, happy birthday sinister! and with that i'll end my first post, cheers, karren _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Sat Aug 31 18:49:13 2002 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 13:49:13 EDT Subject: Sinister: Belated Felicitations Message-ID: <30.2c3d67eb.2aa25b99@aol.com> This ink polaroid is of two people hugging in the underground station at Heathrow. They are standing in front of the ticket machines, amonst people and baggage. But they aren't noticing any of that. They recognized each other there on the crowded platform right away even though they hadn't ever met before, or seen pictures of each other. Oddly enough, they don't feel that kind of hesitancy or embarrassment of a first-time hug, it just feels natural and comfortable, like a relief. Like two old friends who have always hugged and always will. There had been discussion prior to the meeting about how they'd react, about British reticence and American loudness. It was amusing to note that the Brit wasn't in the least reticent, and the American was, for once, pretty subdued. There is an album full of polaroids of this friendship, taken over the years on both sides of the Atlantic: Bowlie, a wedding, castles, sidewalk cafes, shops of dubious reputation, planestrains&automobiles, crowds of people, quiet moments, individual portraits... yes, even one at the top of the World Trade Center. Some are happy and some are sad. That's how life and friendships go. It's best to look through it while playing Belle and Sebastian songs, because they are the soundtrack that inspired the photographs, causing Sinister to be born and bringing two friends together. But really, this first picture is the one that sums it up -- the friendship, the past five years, the Band -- that moment of coming together, realizing that a silly little mailing list really *did* provide the truest friendship one might ever know. Happy Belated Birthday Sinister. I just had to stop by one more time, to say thank you (I hope this gets through). Each person here has an album of polaroids, unique to themselves, and that is a gift. I may not be here anymore, but I continue to snap the polaroids of friends I've made, and my life is richer for it. And I carry that hug with me every day. Michele p.s. I've slipped in one extra shot: that's me holding up a glass of (very good, very dry) Champagne and wishing the list at least another 5 years for all of you. Long live Honey's servers. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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