From sinkingpie at xxx.com Sun Dec 1 12:16:09 2002 From: sinkingpie at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?sinkingpie?=) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:16:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Winning a battle, losing the war. Message-ID: <20021201121609.71784.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Well, hasn't this weekend been fun. Exactly what I did on Friday escapes me, but I'm assured by my subconcious it was reasonably enjoyable. Saturday presumably followed this, and was also nice, especially as the first round of the skiing world cup was on. Today I unfortunately had to write quite a bit on the not-so-interesting topic of "Determining the Activation Enthalpy of an Iodine Clock Reaction." But after the (undefined) joys of the previous days this hasn't been too bad. Still, Christmas approaches, perhaps some sort of Christmas shopping may be in order at some point. Luckily I don't take long over it; I am competent, not merely adaquete. OK, that was possibly forcing a lyric a little too much. My brother came up with an interesting, but entirely wrong, description of Belle and Sebastian yesterday. It was something along the lines of "Imagine the most boring acoustic guitar possible, play two notes on it for a whole song, and sing lalalala over the top." However, he is a Bon Jovi fan, so what can we expect? I did, of course, point out the greatness of B&S to him, but he was having none of it. Anyway, I think that should suffice for today, lets hope the week continues in the enjoyable fashion of the past few days. Perhaps the war can be won yet. sinkingpie P.S. Any sinister people in Northampton (UK)? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Mon Dec 2 00:33:29 2002 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 00:33:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the buoy with the crab trap Message-ID: Hey kids, How are we all? Good, I hope. I just bought myself a new DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION game for my playstation today and it is great! You can dance to classics such as "Don't Stop moving" by S Club 7 and "The Bad Touch" by Bloodhound gang and "Can't get you out of my head" by Kylie Minogue/Stefano (Steady State)! And of course also "My Favourite Game" by the Cardigans, how apt! It IS my favourite game. I have been on a haze of consumerism actually, recent purchases include: - a new Bookshelf (I can now put my books back on the shelf)! - a new Mobile Phone (It's full of silicon chips)! - new Recording Equipments (not just for playyying guitar)! - a tube travel card that doesn't expire until next year! (it states the destination but it doesn't mean that it will show)! - a crack ho from soho (she was doing it with business ken on the piano belle, oh she thought it was a living hell)!** Yeeeh, shopping crazy! B&S Style, too. And of course I got the BELLE AND SEBASTIAN PLAYING CARDS! There has been preciously little talk about the B+S Playing Cards, no? Aren't they great? They are! Late night poker has never been so much fun! I have to be careful not to mix them up with my UNO cards though because they look quite similar. Has anyone actually played with them yet? I haven't yet.. I wanna do that thing where you hold all the cards in one hand and bend it, and then let go and all the cards jump over to the other hand! But they costed a tenner so I thought I'd actually keep them nice and straight for a while yet. How many sinisters are in London nowadays? E-mail me yeah? Go out for a pint innit. Anyone in London like Poker? We need to have a game one day, mmm yeah with B&S Playing Cards and all. Texas River Holdem No Limit oh yes. A PUBNIC one day, maybe? Poker in a pub! Loser buys the rounds. What does the dealer button do? Personally I use my BSPD badge as the dealer button. My favourite card is Queen of Diamonds*. Aww bless. I need a snog. Oops thought out loud. Ken * Although 10 of Spades almost edged it what with SNOGGING (almost) in it! Hubba Hubba! ** I didn't really do it with a crack ho on a piano*** *** it was a glockenspiel _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gettingfurtheraway at xxx.com Mon Dec 2 05:16:19 2002 From: gettingfurtheraway at xxx.com (dagnyrae) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:16:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: this year, to save me from tears, i'll give it to someone special. Message-ID: <20021202051619.86767.qmail@web10704.mail.yahoo.com> i think i'll start with some notings again: *i do wish i could be in attendance at mr. jay eckard's southern soiree; however, being landlocked as i am with shining monetary shackles, i can only encourage others to go and take a nice fruit salad in my honor. preferably the delightfully WT ambrosia type of fruit salad. i think jay might like that. *someone mentioned sigur ros: this band, indeed, is like nothing else. what i can tell you (as an avid avid fan): jonsi, the gay and half-blind frontman, plays his guitar with a cello bow (thus producing the characteristic ambiance). their first album (well, the first released in america; the actual first was von, but now very hard to get) was largely in icelandic, with the exception of track 8, olsen olsen, which is in hopelandic, the band's made-up language. apparently the language consists of whatever jonsi mumbled in practice; not actually words, but sounds. whatever. the new album, (), is all in hopelandic. all that aside, though, the music is incredible. the first time i listened to agaetis byjurn, i cried. and i was driving at the time, so it was kind of a problem. but yeah. i think it was the very most spiritual musical listening experience i've ever had, and it have one every time i listen. and sigur ros means victory rose. how cool is that? ooo. yeah. spiritually orgasmic. *one last thing. oft bored at work, i've become somewhat addicted to the crosswords accessed at www.bored.com. today i wandered around the site's other links, and discovered that the only other things there would actually incite boredom, including a virtual bubble wrap site that featured a piece of 'virtual bubble wrap' with small circles (emulating bubbles) on which one could click (emulating popping said bubbles). yikes. almost as bad as msn's 'top 10 places to kiss' article (which i of course checked out). too bad there aren't any ski lifts where i live. i guess i'll have to settle for the most original locale on their list: under the covers. anyone wanna come over? *** my sister made me an ace holiday music mix. largely christmas, but there's a hanukkah song in there. yeah. that one. the people at the paper seem to like it, anyway. and there's a techno number on there. three pouncing minutes of beat and synthesized auld lang syne with this crazy voice shouting 'happy new year.' it makes me laugh, and it's stuck in my head now. well. better that than U2, i guess. *** bono spoke at the university tonight. i went, notebook in hand, to gather information for the editorial i just finished writing about 20 minutes ago. between all the standing ovations for bono and ashley judd and lance armstrong i dropped my pen and had to borrow from the bloke next to me. but fellowship was the theme of the night anyway. millions of orphans in africa have parents who die from AIDS, and thousands more people are dying or contracting HIV every day. the statistics were sobering. the same number of people in my university's current graduating class is the same number of people who die every day in africa from AIDS or HIV. a little over 6,000. there was a woman who spoke. out of africa to america for the first time. she was HIV positive. and for some reason i wondered what would happen if she fell, if she got cut, if she bled out onto that stage. what the people would have done, who would have been the first to touch her. everyone who spoke, all the celebrities, received a standing ovation. one man didn't. a doctor. apparently at the forefront of AIDS research. and that pissed me off. we didn't recognize him, but we recognized ashley judd and bono, who received wild applause and cheers when he performed a surprise song at the end of the show, some new U2 track celebrating america and its gracious wonder. i wasn't so proud of my fellow americans, all those kids who sat through those two hours to hear a song, reminisce about hearing the joshua tree for the first time amongst themselves and then go home and talk about the moving numbers, the true-life story, the little choir of african kids who joined in with bono and his cd backup. we all left with this little idea that the world would be better and that we really wouldn't have to do anything. we could let bono do it. or a group of kids in lincoln. just to go to that one event was enough. just to go and cheer for the famous, and let the everyday go by again and again and again. well. i guess some days are better than others. the war on AIDS? the war on terror? the war on the world? i guess those are just for off days, and we get over those after a few cigarettes and a good night's sleep. when we stop being scared, we'd be ready to touch a bleeding woman, we'd be ready to tell her we really would do something, just by taking her hand and telling her that someday, the bleeding would end before her life did. go do something about something. don't just talk about it, say you love 'we rule the school' and then never make the attempt to do something pretty while you can. *rae __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Mon Dec 2 04:29:21 2002 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 11:29:21 +0700 Subject: Sinister: He (and she) got a strike at the age of 21 Message-ID: hello, we had a very sinister weekend here in perth. this is how it unfolded... Jeremy's Party On Friday night Jeremy celebrated his 21st birthday. Although not an officially endorsed Sinister event, 5 people from the list were there. They were the super-duper birthday boy Jeremy, the very funny Jim, the lovely Kate, the heroic Helen, and the complimentary I. There were mini sausage rolls and party pies (and double dipping was allowed!), a bowl full of smarties, the best chocolate brownies ever, cheezels and, of course, copious amounts of beer and wine. Jeremy, Jim and Helen lit up the dancefloor, and I jumped about a lttle too, trying to put the fire out. Pubnic Saturday was going to be a picnic, but due to other commitments it morphed into a pubnic. I arrived at the Moon and Sixpence at 7ish and soon found Helen and Jim. Jeremy arrived shortly after, followed by the charming Katey and the commendable Kin (who owns some of the worlds best t-shirts). The pub was having a St Andrew's Day celebration, which we thought was quite apt, and was also full of English tourists bemoaning the fact that their cricket team is ummm, not particularly good. Much alcohol was downed and many laughs were had, and a great time was had by all. Eastenders, Holly Valance documentaries and gossip filled magazines were discussed, which means it must have been fun. Unfortunately prior commitments meant that the evening had to be cut a little short, but there was bowling to be done.... Bowling Helen, Jim, Jeremy and I arrived at the bowling alley at 10ish, ready to hit some pins. Jeremy dominated the first game, stylishly leaving the rest of us in his wake. I forget who came last. Highlights included strikes from Helen and Jeremy, Helen's hop step and jump technique, I solving his problem of being unable to score on his second bowl by deliberately bowling gutter balls on his first bowl, Helen breaking things and making smoke come out, and Jim's impressively large.....run up. The second game was closely fought between I and Jeremy, with I just getting over the line to win. Highlights included cameo appearances by such luminaries as Lois Lane, David Bowlie and Nabowleon. Future Picnic There may be a picnic this Sunday, in King's Park, starting at around 1 or 2pm. Probably. And there are a few additions to the Australian Listee's List too. There are at least: 9 in Perth (Kin, Jim, Jeremy, Terry, Helen, Michael, Kate, Katey, Katie) 4 in Brisbane (Steven, Grant, Nicholas, Alex) 5 in Melboure (David, Sophia, Neil, Amy, Justin) 1 in Adelaide (Nathan) 1 in Sydney (Chris) 1 in Newcastle (Shellie) 1 in London (Marianna, ex-Perth) 1 in Glasgow (Katrina, ex-Perth) 1 in Manchester (Rachael, ex-Melbourne) And there is Lawrence in NZ too. and that is all i have to say. terry _____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Mon Dec 2 09:49:08 2002 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 16:49:08 +0700 Subject: Sinister: He (and she) got a strike at the age of 21 Message-ID: hello, i apologise if this comes twice... we had a very sinister weekend here in perth. this is how it unfolded... Jeremy's Party On Friday night Jeremy celebrated his 21st birthday. Although not an officially endorsed Sinister event, 5 people from the list were there. They were the super-duper birthday boy Jeremy, the very funny Jim, the lovely Kate, the heroic Helen, and the complimentary I. There were mini sausage rolls and party pies (and double dipping was allowed!), a bowl full of smarties, the best chocolate brownies ever, cheezels and, of course, copious amounts of beer and wine. Jeremy, Jim and Helen lit up the dancefloor, and I jumped about a lttle too, trying to put the fire out. Pubnic Saturday was going to be a picnic, but due to other commitments it morphed into a pubnic. I arrived at the Moon and Sixpence at 7ish and soon found Helen and Jim. Jeremy arrived shortly after, followed by the charming Katey and the commendable Kin (who owns some of the worlds best t-shirts). The pub was having a St Andrew's Day celebration, which we thought was quite apt, and was also full of English tourists bemoaning the fact that their cricket team is ummm, not particularly good. Much alcohol was downed and many laughs were had, and a great time was had by all. Eastenders, Holly Valance documentaries and gossip filled magazines were discussed, which means it must have been fun. Unfortunately prior commitments meant that the evening had to be cut a little short, but there was bowling to be done.... Bowling Helen, Jim, Jeremy and I arrived at the bowling alley at 10ish, ready to hit some pins. Jeremy dominated the first game, stylishly leaving the rest of us in his wake. I forget who came last. Highlights included strikes from Helen and Jeremy, Helen's hop step and jump technique, I solving his problem of being unable to score on his second bowl by deliberately bowling gutter balls on his first bowl, Helen breaking things and making smoke come out, and Jim's impressively large.....run up. The second game was closely fought between I and Jeremy, with I just getting over the line to win. Highlights included cameo appearances by such luminaries as Lois Lane, David Bowlie and Nabowleon. Future Picnic There may be a picnic this Sunday, in King's Park, starting at around 1 or 2pm. Probably. And there are a few additions to the Australian Listee's List too. There are at least: 9 in Perth (Kin, Jim, Jeremy, Terry, Helen, Michael, Kate, Katey, Katie) 4 in Brisbane (Steven, Grant, Nicholas, Alex) 5 in Melboure (David, Sophia, Neil, Amy, Justin) 1 in Adelaide (Nathan) 1 in Sydney (Chris) 1 in Newcastle (Shellie) 1 in London (Marianna, ex-Perth) 1 in Glasgow (Katrina, ex-Perth) 1 in Manchester (Rachael, ex-Melbourne) And there is Lawrence in NZ too. and that is all i have to say. terry _____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shannonjeanmaney at xxx.com Mon Dec 2 16:11:53 2002 From: shannonjeanmaney at xxx.com (Shanny Jean) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:11:53 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Re: all this sigur ros hubub References: <20021202051619.86767.qmail@web10704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: dear everyone, agreed: i like sigur ros good. word of warning: do not do not do not buy the album called something blah blah "angels," a joint effort with a holger hoemloersternstein or something. it's truely awful. i'm sorry. i don't mean to be a putz, i just don't want you making the same mistake i did. it is bad. bad bad bad. blagh. i'm sorry i haven't updated in a while. i'm not sure anyone notices, though... anyone in illinois/surrounding midwestern counties want to have a christmas-break outing? certainly not a picnic, but something. i'm jealous of all the bowieling. so hands up for living in illinois, let's get a count. love love, shannon jean +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk Mon Dec 2 15:00:54 2002 From: MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk (Michael Ashbridge) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 15:00:54 GMT Subject: Sinister: Danger! High Voltage Message-ID: ** When we touch, when we kiss! ** That's Jack White on vocals, right? I want a copy. I need to Google this. Never will you see a dance floor move into absolute and immediate nuclear meltdown so fast. (Jack White = yes. Band = Electric Six, formerly the Wildbunch. Release date = January. Am I the last to know these things? Jesus. Cracking song, tho.) Ah ha! Those of you in uni/college or otherwise with access to silly bandwidth can download the video in high-res quicktime format (33.9 MB). Rock on, Tommy. http://electric6.com/multimedia/index.shtml ** I can take any kind of criticism, as long as it's unqualified praise ** Mark C. said some very nice things (generally, but specfically) about the nature of all things Sinister. How nice it is to have the freedom to be NICE, to be able tell someone you think they're fab without worrying about having to take out a restraining order later or change your name, move to Bolivia and grow a moustache. Mark C., you're fab. Many of you are extremely fab, and I may have written to tell you so. With most of you, however, I'm just waiting for an excuse. If you can't wait to hear how fab I think you are, write to me and tell me that you're fabulously impatient and I'll probably oblige. (Exceptions apply; no means no; think globally act locally; your home may be at risk if you do not keep up repayments.) ** Eighteen seconds before sunrise ** Much talk/reiteration of Sigur R�s over the weekend. I got () last month, but either it's taking much longer to absorb than did �g�tis Byrjun, where the impact was immediate and lasting, or PitchforkMedia did give a fair review: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/s/sigur-ros/().shtml Those of you contemplating a trip to the record store, the advice is to seek out �g�tis Byrjun and listen to the first few minutes in the shop. If it doesn't put a gun to your head and demand that you buy it, there's no chance you'll find anything about () to love. If you do own a copy of (), here is something fun to do. Put it in your computer's CD-ROM/cup-holder, fire up your interweb, and go to www.sigur- ros.com. You'll need to click-and-drag the funky banner about for a bit (and hope it doesn't fux0r your computer), and maybe even register, but you get access to more of the site. Extended MP3s etc. Let's hear it for pointlessly complicated web design! (Flash required. You'll need speakers/headphones as well. It's an audio-visual kinda thing.) ** An interesting chord progression, if progression is the right word ** Finally: voting is open for Peel's Festive Fifty, so hie thee to the booth and post your nominations for 2002. Voting for session tracks is allowed, of course, so you might want to pick out your favourite B&S Peel Acres track. Maybe. But only if you really really liked it. And don't get carried away -- only last week Peely got all shirty because someone somewhere was trying to organise a coup for their favourite band. It's an individual thing, got that? Good. Now go vote for B&S (and Ballboy. YES!): http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/features/festive_fifty_vote.shtml Millions of everything beautiful - Michael PS. The two of you to whom I owe replies: on their way. Promises, promises. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Mon Dec 2 17:59:43 2002 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 17:59:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Is it a threat or a warning? Message-ID: As promised (and an elf never breaks her word) I have been trying to get information of postal dates for the participants in the Christmas Gift Exchange Fiasco. Now, it's been harder than I thought. Good old Royal Mail have a useful pop up on their main page that gives all the last postal date information. Find it here: www.royalmail.com However, I have had more difficulty finding out abour dates from other countries. But, I did find this ace website that links to every postal service in the WORLD: http://www.grcdi.nl/linkspo.htm You should be able to find your post office there, but if the information isn't available online.... erm, sorry. My investigative powers are currently hampered by PMT, a nasty cold and a painful tooth infection. I am good for nothing but weeping, so I certainly can't find out the last postal dates from Brazil to Australia or whatever. Those of you who send out your parcel late, or do not send it out at all, be warned. Laura and I will hunt you down and I will pick off the weedier looking ones and make you tend to me while I moan and wail with illness and misery. I will send you to the shop for solpadeine, I will make you bring me hot toddies and soothing ice cream and hot water bottles and I will moan and moan and moan.* Ken mentioned B&S playing cards. I got mine recently. They smell funny. I haven't played with them yet, only taken them out of the box, looked at them, sniffed them and put them back again. I'm rubbish at card games anyway, as I can barely remember the rules, and I hate losing but I hate winning too because it feels a bit mean. I think I should only play Snap with slow, dull people I hate. I have recently acquired, along with my playing cards, a new celebrity crush. I went to bed early on Friday in the hopes that I would have a saucy dream or two about her but instead I dreamt about being late for work for TWO WHOLE HOURS. When I finally woke up, I made it to work on time, only to be shouted at by a fat pompous visiting bookseller. And that sci fi fan who smells funny kept standing too close to me.... Anyway, that's quite enough, Madeleine xxx *This is not strictly true, but I am trying to impress upon you all that it is very important, dammit, that you send your gifts to people. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Mon Dec 2 14:52:06 2002 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 14:52:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I've got my philosophy - it keeps my feet on the ground. Message-ID: Hello Sinister. My life trundles on, although some people's don't. But that's not important right now. Click delete - these are just some anecdotes from the last coupla weeks. ///SQAURE EYES\\\ It's been quite a week for me. See, I had lots of assignments all due in today at midday, so I've been sat in front of a computer for ages. It wasn't fun. ///THE PERKS OF THE PERKS OF BEING A WALLFLOWER\\\ So I read "The Perks of being a Wallflower", by Stephen Chbsoky. I didn't much like it, to be honest. I didn't much like Charlie, either; he was like a pathetic version of Holden Caulfield. At least Holden Caulfield was all-mouth-no-trousers - this character didn't even have much mouth. I guess it's just not as good as Catcher In The Rye, and although it's a bit unfair to compare it to a classic, that is something that literature whores like me do. At least I read it. On a more positive note, I read "A Wild Sheep Chase" by Haruki Murakami. You all should, too. It's a brilliant book, but that's just my opinion - what do I know? ///WHEN I WAS A BOY I WAS CONFOUNDED BY YOU\\\ I bumped into a teenage crush of mine the other day, which I must tell you was strange. She's just started at my univeristy, and we just bumped into each other in a bar one night. I still fancy her too, which surprised me, because I've changed quite a lot since I was 17. I suspect that she still doesn't fancy me. It might be time to dig out "The Bends" once again. ///TEXAS HOLD-UP\\\ Ken mentioned the playing cards. I bought mine about five weeks ago, and they still haven't arrived. I emailed Banchory about it but didn't hear back, and the Post Office reckon they're "lost". Great. Ken also mentioned Poker, which is a brilliant game. I'd be up for a Texas Hold-up, Late Night Poker style marathon when I get back to London in a couple of weeks. Anybody else? ///VICTORY ROSE\\\ I'm also among the many who are enjoying the new Sigur Ros album. Recently, however, I've been indulging in a bit of Ben Folds Five nostalgia - they used to be one of my favourite bands. The first two albums are the best, but they so often are, aren't they? You should listen to them. ///THE BEST IMMITATION OF MYSELF\\\ In my last post (http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200211/msg00086.html), I said that my next post would look like this: http://www.missprint.org/cgi-bin/anylistsearch.cgi?query=asm%3B+top+10&list=sinister&smode=Phrase, or like this: http://www.missprint.org/cgi-bin/anylistsearch.cgi?query=asm%3B+top+10&list=sinister&smode=Phrase. But it doesn't. It looks more like this: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200212/msg00005.html, all of which is highly self-referential, but if I don't quote me, nobody will. With any luck, my *next* post will look as billed. "With any luck"; that's what it so often comes down to. What a load of bollocks. ~, Asm.x ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy" - Mary Cohen _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angelas1980 at xxx.com Tue Dec 3 02:40:05 2002 From: angelas1980 at xxx.com (angela smith) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 20:40:05 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Re: all this sigur ros hubub Message-ID: Hands up and snow shovels down for living in Illinois. All this snow is shite. I live in chicago, and it hasn't really stopped since about 9 am. I'm all for a midwest outing. I get jealous reading about all the bowling outings and pubnics. I downloaded a sigur ros song as soon as I read all the emails, and I must say it is very good. I had heard of them before, but never heard anything. So that's my contribution for the day. I'm going to go put on my snowsuit and make some snow angels on the sidewalk. angela _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Tue Dec 3 16:05:45 2002 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 16:05:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Oh yeah, and... Message-ID: Hello Sinister. I forgot to say in my post yesterday (http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/latest/msg00007.html) that there will be a YORK SINI-PUBNIC HAPPENING TOMORROW (WEDNESDAY). Indeed, everyone in York or surrounding area or wherever is welcome to commune and get pished with us. We're reckoning on shit weather, so here are the details: TIME: 2.30pm DATE: Wednesday 4th December PLACE: Lendal Cellars, Coney Street, York So come along and meet the fabled YSM. You know it makes sense. love, Asmx. ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy" - Mary Cohen _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com Tue Dec 3 17:06:32 2002 From: pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com (hannah brown) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 17:06:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: er.....fish. Message-ID: greetings people, Has anyone noticed the sly way that Vodaphone have changed their soundtrack? We all know what it used to be because it was played to death. but now they are using "can you dig it" by the Mock turtles, the lead singer of which is Steve Coogan's brother ( i thought i'd whip that into gain somer usless knowledge points). Now, i'm a bit disturbed by this coz i love that song but am quite happy not to hear it too much, but now it is thrust in my face and will soon be played on XFM every 20 mins, bah humbug! Has anyone heard "light 3000" by Schnider Tm??? They seem to like it at Strange Fruit and i think it's pretty fab. It's a cover of "there is a light that never goes out" by The Smiths. Some of you Smiths purists may hate it but it really is worth a listen. Also the new single by Erlan Oye is quite interesting coz it is like K.O.C gone ELECTRIC, yey. Blah, blah, blah, Sigor Ros. They are playing in that London soon so we should all try and get tickets if they are not all ready sold out, then we can meet, sigh, it's been far too long. And if anyone is going to see Black Heart Procession at the Scala come and say hi and i might buy you a coke if you are lucky. I know it's a bit early but "i AM going to ATP this year" so if anyone else "IS going" then let me know and we can all shack up together. What came first, the chicken or the egg? I've been thinking about this lately and it really is quite a tricky one. I mean, the egg could have started off as a strange boil on the belly of a lazy dog and after several days of sleeping it could have hatched or something. It sounds stupid but who know's? Do any of you coz i would really like to know. see some of you soon i hope, if i don't i might just explode ( it's been about 6 months don't you know) hannah b _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Tue Dec 3 21:45:19 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 21:45:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: my beerdrunk soul is sadder than all the world's dead christmas trees. Message-ID: <20021203214519.72555.qmail@web14405.mail.yahoo.com> hello my lovely bunch of lovelies. been a bit quiet of late on here hasn't it? I suppose it's that christmas shopping/trying to finish uni work/too drunk to stand up let alone focus on a computer time of year. I was shocked at the seemingly undead poetry parrot. Who's a pretty nosferatu then - squwaak! Thank god there was no sign of his mates prose pelican, concept art caribou and amateur operatic society antelope. That could have just got messy. Did you know koala bears aren't really bears at all? I felt cheated when I found this out the other day. I'll be writing to my MP and no mistake. I just read a book called "a white merc with fins" by (hurriedly googles) James Hawes. Very good I foughtt. A guy in it called Dai Substantial (don't ask) had a good theory that I thought I'd share. What he thought anyways was that after you've indulged in some small talk with the milkman for example, instead of saying "see you later" or whatever, you shold tell him in a cheery voice "and don't forget, you're going to die soon". Everyone should do this, all the time (very important or he'd just swear at you). Now this does sound a little strange but old milkman would think "do you know what, I'd completely forgotten" He'd go home, hug the kids, kiss the wife and they'd blow all their cash on a nice holiday to Tunisia. Instead of saving up for a settee that he didn't really need. Liberation for all. Top idea I think. I promised some Animals That Swim CDs for someone. Could you e-mail me off-list please and I'll get cracking. Is everyone else eagerly planning pressies for the swappy thing? Is there anyone else on the list NOT ever gone out with someone you blatantly know isn't right for you but you've done it anyway because it's easy-peasy. Always fucks up in the end though doesn't it? Speak to you in a bit Dean XX Notice I didn't say "and don't forget...etc." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mail at xxx.uk Tue Dec 3 21:28:40 2002 From: mail at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 21:28:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: no use for syllabub Message-ID: <000b01c29b12$f3e6c8e0$e6d886d9@ivorsserver> Fellow chaps, ladies, four legged and feathered friends, My pipe filled with an old nineteenth century blend of orange and red smoking leaf, Brazilian and Mysore Indian tobacco, a candle set up next to the modern day difference engine and a recording of parlour tunes fiddled by Pinchas Zukerman in the... parlour of sorts through the hallway, I shall begin with today's words: (there's no telling when you might require them:) tabor: of Oriental origin, a drum, but also, from the Arabic 'tunbur' a kind of lute or lyre hence: tabouret: 'a low seat or stool [so shaped], without back or arms, for one person', but also, a 'frame [lyre-shaped?] for embroidery'. hirsute: 'hairy, shaggy' syllabub: 'a drink made of sweetened milk or cream curdled with wine or spirits' And in flutters the parrot, straight from an elocution lesson I sent it to, as the poor thing seems to have picked up a vulgar Scot's vernacular (not to malign the true Scots tongue) on the boat from Australia (it'll be all those cheap and mouthy Mockintosh knick-knacks in the hold that dodged the ozzie crane to stow away back home again, teaching the well-travelled bird more bad practices whilst about it.). "So how was it?" "It wis craaap!" squawks the avian vision in green, spattering a mixture of rainwater and spit on the keyboard, "The teachur wis an eedjit; couldnae tell 'er dipthongs from 'er 'airpiece, the auld bint!" "Aherm, so you return with little learning, I see. I'm possibly going to have to buy you subtitles for Christmas" "Aye!" it responds, with as close to a grin as its beak will allow. "So tell me what you have to say about this," I say, turning to the back page of Sunday's Times: "Churchgoer of the week "A blaspheming parrot has taken up residence in a church bell tower, swearing at the vicar and wolf-whistling at passers-by. Peter Craig-Wilde, vicar of St.Mary's at Mirfield, West Yorkshire, first noticed the bird when somebody told him to 'F*** off!' as he walked past. Now the parrot curses and whistles through services and weddings. 'Most people find this very funny, but when it flies about at funerals..." "Ashes to ashes an' ballocks tae bums," screeches the parrot and, inadvertently paraphrasing an insult that for hundreds of years until the 1974 translation of 'The Goatherd Versus the Shepheard" by Theocritus had been either excised or veiled in Latin continues, "ah'll bury ye as deep as ye buggerd, ye bawgag!" "Quite. So I take it it was indeed you, stopping off on your journey North from Ms. Daplyn?" "Wheeeesht! Yeehaaay! Ah kacked on twa folks gettin' wed an a'." "Mmm. Well if you'll excuse me I have a poem to type. Do you read poetry?" "Like heck ah do? Parrots? Read? Are ye outta yer heid? Deid men spoutin' gibberish..." "Well this one's by a girl. It's called 'Filling Station'. The girl's called Elizabeth Bishop. She travelled almost as much as you do." Filling Station Oh, but it is dirty! - this little filling station, oil-soaked, oil-permeated to a disturbing, over-all black translucency. Be careful with that match! Father wears a dirty, oil-soaked monkey suit that cuts him under the arms, and several quick and saucy and greasy sons assist him (it's a family filling station), all quite thoroughly dirty. Do they live in the station? It has a cement porch behind the pumps, and on it a set of crushed and grease- impregnated wickerwork; on the wicker sofa a dirty dog, quite comfy. Some comic books provide the only note of colour - of certain colour. They lie upon a big dim doily draping a taboret (part of the set), beside a big hirsute begonia. Why the extraneous plant? Why the tabouret? Why, oh why, the doily? (Embroidered in daisy stitch with marguerites, I think, and heavy with grey crochet.) Somebody embroidered the doily. Somebody waters the plant, or oils it, maybe. Somebody arranges the rows of cans so that they softly say: ESSO - SO - SO - SO to high-strung automobiles. Somebody loves us all. I turn to the parrot "Did you like the poem?" It wheels around the kitchen, nearly knocking over a tall vase of scentless roses and causing assorted sections of newspaper to inflate wingwards "Naaaa! It wis craaaap! Ah'mm oot ah here!" " Well just remember you're to pay a visit to the PICKLE PRINCE next" And with a rip of fabric and shattering glass, the bird is off into the dreich night, heading in the wrong direction. Hopefully it will get there eventually. Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jvic at xxx.br Wed Dec 4 01:14:30 2002 From: jvic at xxx.br (jvic at xxx.br) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 23:14:30 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Re: all this sigur ros hubub Message-ID: <200212040115.BAA26311@missprint.org> I don't find their songs that good... the only song i really liked was Agaetis Byrjun. I've been trying to find another cool song of them like that, but can't find any other one that i like... i don't know, but most of their songs (if i can call 'em "songs") sounds like weird noise to me. Victor. Em Dec 2002, angela smith escreveu: >Hands up and snow shovels down for living in Illinois. >All this snow is shite. I live in chicago, and it hasn't really stopped >since about 9 am. > >I'm all for a midwest outing. I get jealous reading about all the bowling >outings and pubnics. > >I downloaded a sigur ros song as soon as I read all the emails, and I must >say it is very good. I had heard of them before, but never heard anything. > >So that's my contribution for the day. I'm going to go put on my snowsuit >and make some snow angels on the sidewalk. >angela > >_________________________________________________________________ >Tired of spam? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >---------- _________________________________________________________ Voce quer um iGMail protegido contra v�rus e spams? Clique aqui: http://www.igmailseguro.ig.com.br +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gummi at xxx.net Wed Dec 4 01:27:41 2002 From: gummi at xxx.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Gu=F0mundur_J=F3hannsson?=) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 01:27:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: all this sigur ros hubub In-Reply-To: <200212040115.BAA26311@missprint.org> Message-ID: <000701c29b34$5710f910$6400000a@gummijoh> Hi all.. The thing I find with Sigur Ros is that either you like them or you hate them. A few people get caught in between. As a Sigur Rós fan I can recommend a few songs for people to listen to: Starálfur Ágætis Byrjun Viðrar vel til loftárása Flugufrelsarin All of these songs are from Ágætis Byrjun On the new album ( ) track 1 called Vaka on previous ocassions and track 4 called Popplagið I think are the best ones. I really look forward to the homecoming gig Sigur Rós will have on the 12 and 13th of Desember here in Iceland. A Sigur Rós concert is different from anything else. Take Care Gummi -----Original Message----- From: owner-sinister at xxx.org] On Behalf Of jvic at ig.com.br Sent: 4. desember 2002 01:15 To: sinister at missprint.org Subject: Re: Sinister: Re: all this sigur ros hubub I don't find their songs that good... the only song i really liked was Agaetis Byrjun. I've been trying to find another cool song of them like that, but can't find any other one that i like... i don't know, but most of their songs (if i can call 'em "songs") sounds like weird noise to me. Victor. Em Dec 2002, angela smith escreveu: >Hands up and snow shovels down for living in Illinois. >All this snow is shite. I live in chicago, and it hasn't really stopped >since about 9 am. > >I'm all for a midwest outing. I get jealous reading about all the >bowling >outings and pubnics. > >I downloaded a sigur ros song as soon as I read all the emails, and I >must >say it is very good. I had heard of them before, but never heard anything. > >So that's my contribution for the day. I'm going to go put on my >snowsuit >and make some snow angels on the sidewalk. >angela > >_________________________________________________________________ >Tired of spam? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jkananen at xxx.net Wed Dec 4 02:59:27 2002 From: jkananen at xxx.net (Jason Kananen) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 18:59:27 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Re: all this sigur ros hubub In-Reply-To: <000701c29b34$5710f910$6400000a@gummijoh> Message-ID: <000001c29b41$287a2bf0$6401a8c0@tima> I really liked the Agaetis Byrjun album a lot, and Von [their first record] was also good. I agree with Gummi here about their new album. Vaka and track 4 [my memory tells me it was called 'the nothing song,' but I might be wrong] as well as the last song on the latest record are really great and I love those songs, but the rest of the album just kinda happens. There isn't the charge that the second record had or the ambient drone that the first had. When I listen to it I get into it, then I forget it's on then I get into it again then I forget it's on and so on and so on. The whole hopelandic thing [the using of the lead singer's voice as an instrument instead of some kind of lyrical vessel] is interesting, but I find the singer repeats certain sounds over and over again which makes the songs sound kind of the same. I think something like that is better used in moderation like it was on Agaetis Byrjun with actual 'lyrics' used in between. Of course I don't know Icelandic so I don't really KNOW what he was ever saying, but still, part of the excitement was the mystery that the words meant SOMETHING, you just didn't know what. Since it is privy to everyone that the new record has no lyrics the mystery looses some of its luster. Their live shows though are definitely something worth seeing though; I would place them among the top 5 live acts I've ever seen. Anyway - sorry to bore everyone and I know it's kinda unpopular or whatever to be even slightly less than orgasmic over their record, but that's just how I feel about it. - J. Kananen - http://music.ones-and-zeros.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-sinister at xxx.org] On Behalf Of Guðmundur Jóhannsson Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 5:28 PM To: sinister at missprint.org Subject: RE: Sinister: Re: all this sigur ros hubub Hi all.. The thing I find with Sigur Ros is that either you like them or you hate them. A few people get caught in between. As a Sigur Rós fan I can recommend a few songs for people to listen to: Starálfur Ágætis Byrjun Viðrar vel til loftárása Flugufrelsarin All of these songs are from Ágætis Byrjun On the new album ( ) track 1 called Vaka on previous ocassions and track 4 called Popplagið I think are the best ones. I really look forward to the homecoming gig Sigur Rós will have on the 12 and 13th of Desember here in Iceland. A Sigur Rós concert is different from anything else. Take Care Gummi -----Original Message----- From: owner-sinister at xxx.org] On Behalf Of jvic at ig.com.br Sent: 4. desember 2002 01:15 To: sinister at missprint.org Subject: Re: Sinister: Re: all this sigur ros hubub I don't find their songs that good... the only song i really liked was Agaetis Byrjun. I've been trying to find another cool song of them like that, but can't find any other one that i like... i don't know, but most of their songs (if i can call 'em "songs") sounds like weird noise to me. Victor. Em Dec 2002, angela smith escreveu: >Hands up and snow shovels down for living in Illinois. >All this snow is shite. I live in chicago, and it hasn't really stopped >since about 9 am. > >I'm all for a midwest outing. I get jealous reading about all the >bowling >outings and pubnics. > >I downloaded a sigur ros song as soon as I read all the emails, and I >must >say it is very good. I had heard of them before, but never heard anything. > >So that's my contribution for the day. I'm going to go put on my >snowsuit >and make some snow angels on the sidewalk. >angela > >_________________________________________________________________ >Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > >+---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Wed Dec 4 07:50:57 2002 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 14:50:57 +0700 Subject: Sinister: the pharmaceuticals she takes to fix her brain Message-ID: Hi, My name is Terry and I like Sigur Ros. *This is a request for information regarding anti-depressants and has no content at all* An friend of mind is feeling very low and has been for quite some time, but she doesn't want to take anti-depressants as she has heard they sap away your personality and do other nasty things (in her words, "I don't want to take anything that's going to make me fat or tired"). But I really think that they would help her, and have promised to try and find out a little bit about their effectiveness. And comments straight fron the horses mouth, or mabye from a horse who knows another horse, are always informative and useful. Which is where you come in.... I would be hugely appreciative if anyone could reply back to me with any kind of info at all (like if any particular brands are better or worse, side effects, effectiveness...) I can't repay you, but the universe will undoubtedly send some good karma your way. Thankyou, Terry _____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Wed Dec 4 17:26:56 2002 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:26:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: peel xmas party Message-ID: <010601c29bba$913cabd0$0300a8c0@katrina> Hi all, John Peel was so impressed with Belle & Sebastian's last session for him at Peel Acres that he's invited us along to play his Christmas party show! It will be a live broadcast from the BBC studios at Maida Vale on Wednesday 18th December 2002 starting at 10pm GMT. The band will be performing live and doing a few Christmas Carols to get you in an christmassy kind of mood. You will also be able to tune in to the live stream on the internet by clicking on http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio1.shtml No other news for now, hope you all enjoy the show. cheers, katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6ld scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coppedge at xxx.com Wed Dec 4 19:47:18 2002 From: coppedge at xxx.com (Rob Coppedge) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 14:47:18 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Scotland, for the countdown Message-ID: So, I've been lurking in the shadows for almost a year... nearly writing to thank so many of you for such interesting posts and stories, but never "getting around to it". Sadly, it is opportunism that finally makes me raise my head... please don't think less of me for following my introduction with a shameless cry for help.... HELP! A friend and I will be in Edinburgh for New Years, and are looking for recommendations on where we can find good music, nice people and a few beers... especially interested in any information on any good concerts around town on the 30th of Dec - 2nd of Jan.... So, that's me being shameless... any help will be appreciated... and you will have complete reciprocity when you visit Washington, DC. Or Nashville, TN. Or, really anywhere that you probably aren't dying to visit... Nice to meet you all. Rob +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittypower6 at xxx.com Wed Dec 4 19:31:57 2002 From: kittypower6 at xxx.com (Alyson Snowball) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 13:31:57 -0600 Subject: Sinister: just wondering. . . Message-ID: who has my copy of "the perks of being a wallflower"? if you do, don't worry, i don't want it back now, but i was just wondering where in the world it is. . .i forgot who i lent it to, and who they were going to send it on to after that. that was about a year ago, wasn't it? thanks, and sorry for the meaningless-to-most-of-you post. =) --alyson snowball _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Wed Dec 4 14:47:23 2002 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 06:47:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Re: all this sigur ros hubub In-Reply-To: <000001c29b41$287a2bf0$6401a8c0@tima> Message-ID: <20021204144723.68992.qmail@web40603.mail.yahoo.com> just to clarify.....yes, jonsi (the singer from sigur ros) does use his voice as an instrument more than a lyrical vessel, but this is not hopelandic. hopelandic is a sort of made up language that jonsi uses in addition to icelandic. ~stine....who hasn't posted in aaaaaages __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dafyd2001 at xxx.com Wed Dec 4 21:43:38 2002 From: dafyd2001 at xxx.com (dafyd strange) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:43:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: painting & kissing Message-ID: <20021204214338.56865.qmail@web12803.mail.yahoo.com> hi, i have to say im not a big fan of the winter,it leaves me rather cold *natch*. The air may be crisp and feel fresh on your lungs but it still feels cold and unforgiving on one's face. I have painted a rather bleak unforgiving view to winter thus far but believe its about to get a whole lot better (or worse depending on the way you look at the next thing i say), imagine if you would a way to warm your heart and soul by being a little creative in these unforgiving early December days. Well your answer could well be found here http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk/competition/ . Hopefully this will ease a few of you great kids through these daunting early nights in December where the wind chill steadily knocks tempretureture down, its gets dark at about 4 , & rain instead of snow. I hope this phasn'tasnt depressed any of you,im just not a big fan of the winter months but i really hope everyone has a darling Christmas and a good new year as i probably wont post before either of these events! cheers, D x x x __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmhyde at xxx.edu Wed Dec 4 22:25:50 2002 From: kmhyde at xxx.edu (Kevin Hyde) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:25:50 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the endless possibilities of apple butter Message-ID: <016801c29be4$19eac420$ac72ef80@wm.edu> Hey everybody, All this Christmas swapping of presents has managed to re-energize me, and alert me to the fact that I have far less money than I wish I did, which is pretty much always a problem. However, I'm on the cusp of presenting the local well-to-dos with a business plan that I think could very well, and without exaggeration, take care of me and my lisper's-kiss kith, and hanger's on, etc for the forseeable future. It involves combining the inexplicable pull of apple butter with the hopefully-quickly-dying garage rock revival, in the following way: the base flavor (apples) will be combined with other, slightly quirkier flavors, in a similar manner to various other products on the market (viz. Tropicana's twister, Goober's ontological nightmare of jelly + peanut butter in the same unholy jar, etc.) My three prototype flavors are these: Grap-Apple Stranglehold (has a picture of the four remaining Strokes on the front)- Grape Apple Asp-Apple Crotchkick (features a non sequitur lithographical rendering of actor Michael Ironside)- Asparagus Apple Rasp-On-Apple Claviclebreak (an impressionist style portrait of the lead singer of the Donnas)- Raspberry Onion Apple All I need is about 5000 USD for the start-up capital, and I'll be set. This email roughly approximates the letter I sent to the President of the United States, in which I also remarked that I enjoyed his socks and inquired as to where I could pick up a pair as snazzy as those sported by the leader of the only country listed in the "Hot" column of Vogue's "Hot or Not" article. The other 'scheme' I had involved manufacturing t-shirts that had a picture of a velociraptor on the front, eyes hidden behind a pair of jauntily-worn ambervision sunglasses, holding a bag of candy in its left claw, with the caption "sexual predator" beneath it. The focus group I consulted, which consisted solely of people at a nighborhood bar, felt it was perhaps too ahead of its time, and that I should wait to spring it upon the consuming public. In other news that no one could possibly find interesting, one of my best friends is in Kenya, and is studying the runners there- more specifically, their religion, which is an intriguing mix of Christianity and animism- and has found time to be a Teacher's Assistant in a philosophy of science class at the university. The students in the class have nicknamed him "Professor Mzungu", which he claims would be the equivalent of calling an African American teacher here "Professor McBlackmeister". Dan, my friend, said he has had little luck in trying to get them to switch his nickname to something slightly less racially-based, like 'Megatron'. There was a point to this email, and I think it should be patently obvious. Anyway. Looking forward to sending off my presents, and in return, lord willing, receiving brown paper packages of foreign pornography. sleep tight everyone, Kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Wed Dec 4 21:58:03 2002 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 21:58:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: na brilhants suu cap Message-ID: There's been a lot of talk about Sigur Ros lately. My official line on the Ros is that they are great live but a bit disappointing on record. Certainly, I bought their first album on the strength of a live show they did supporting Godspeed You Black Emperor! here once. The concert was amazing, coupling their otherworldly music to footage of Iceland's lunar landscape. Deadly buzz. But the record, nyeh, not so good. It all sounded a bit weedy and wibbly, and it has received little airplay on Vicarage FM. meanwhile, Shannyjean shaid: > word of warning: do not do not do not buy the album called something blah > blah "angels," a joint effort with a holger hoemloersternstein or something. > it's truely awful. i'm sorry. i don't mean to be a putz, i just don't want > you making the same mistake i did. it is bad. bad bad bad. blagh. I beg to differ. I think I bought that disc at one of their concerts (it has no printed information on it and a plain white sleeve), and I rate it much more highly than their first proper album. Is that guest singer the volkish Icelandic singer who guested with them the second time I saw them live? he is great, a man possessed of a doomridden voice suited well to incomprehensible Icelandic folk tunes that sound like they are about freezing to death or having to eat decomposing sharkmeat. Great stuff, I think I'll put it on now when Viva Hate finishes. What I like about that record is the way it meshes modernist avant garde music with traditional tunes. It reminds me a bit of "La Novia" by Acid Mothers Temple. As you know, Acid Mothers Temple are the Japanese space rock sensations who all live in a commune together. "La Novia" is a record they did of Occitanian folk tunes. It's all about the suppression and extermination of the Cathars by the Catholic French in the mediaeval period, and it gamely mixes traditional southern French music with space rock *and* throat singing. I heartily recommend it. I was in Manchester a few weeks ago, meeting the other B&S fans. They seemed very nice, and I even exchanged some pleasant words with The Adversary. Menswear were not mentioned, but we did all have a larf when the club we were in played Lazy Line Painter Jane for the second time, cause a stampede of twee fuckers to the dance floor and the rank terrorisation of the less fey locals. T-b-t bless them. and may T-b-t bless you too. DV P.S. STOP BUSHI'S WAR! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From noticias at xxx.com Fri Dec 6 01:34:26 2002 From: noticias at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Francisco_L=F3pez?=) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:34:26 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Greetz from Argentina Message-ID: <003f01c29cc7$f9dc8940$3fcc44c8@hmgvlopez> So, after these two weeks reading all of these lovely messages by all of these lovely people, i've finally got a voice. And, after i start to shout a lot of non-sense that doesn't get anybody interested, i thought i'll introduce my self. I'm a little Argentinean boy (maybe you have heard about us, we are a small third worlded country in south america), who have recently turned to 17, recently turned to vegetarianism, recently turned to a belle and sebastian lover and recently turned to a big depressive pink cat... I tend to read (a lot), listen to silly and sensitive music, try to draw silly and sensitive comics, try to play silly and sensitive music with my bass and i also tend (a lot) to use the word "silly". I'm not very drafted in the whole "being a social person" thingy -at least no face to face-, so i write a lot in my computer, and hope someone will be interested (usually this hope crashes with the reality, but what the fuck...) Well, in order to not get anyone bored with my non-sense babble at my first post, i'll say good bye... Remember to be sweet with your mummies... Little kisses all around your bodies, Silly Fran PS: Sorry for my shitty english, it's not my natural language +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Fri Dec 6 13:18:43 2002 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:18:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Faggy But Nice Message-ID: <20021206131843.24169.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com> Darling Sinister, Hands up if you’re travelling from London to Glasgow next weekend! /me counts Sally Moore, David Moore, Big Gay Mark, Sarah G-S, Nal and, if she squints, she thinks she might also be able to see Ken Chu and Paul Ginger Fox. Wow! And to celebrate, we’re having a great big party called THE WINCHESTER CLUB! It’s at the Woodside Social Club from 9pm with entertainment provided by the lovely Baptiste, the just-as-lovely Homescience and your friends the not-all-that-lovely-but-they-do-their-best Winchester Club DJs. And, as Jimmy Cricket might say, there’s more! If you arrive nice and early there’s a free CD of festive choons just for you including offerings by Sinisterines past and present: The Pines, Chris Leonard, The Red Bulldozers and The Dudley Corporation! But it is a limited edition thing so do come early and don't miss out. Oh, go on, do! My favourite post this week was by Gordon. And that’s not even parrot-bias. New kids on the sinister block can check out previous Parrot offerings by going to the Sinister home page and typing Poetry Parrot into the search box and hitting the return key. Look, I’ll do it for you http://www.missprint.org/cgi-bin/anylistsearch.cgi?query=poetry+parrot&list=sinister&smode=Phrase OK, before I scare you half to death by magically transforming into Sam Walton, I’ll run off and do some work. It’s what I’m here for, after all. Juicy Lucy ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ ************************************************** The Winchester Club http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Fri Dec 6 15:21:43 2002 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:21:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: What? I thought she was dead, or summit. Message-ID: So, Sinister, hi. Before I begin, Ian said: >>it isn't acceptable to tell us you're going to be on the TELEVISION and >>then not tell us when we can tune in and watch it... details please! Well, I don't know when I'm gonna be on, either. I don't even know when I'm gonna record the show yet - apparently I get three weeks notice. And then I probably have to wait until Channel 4 decided to show the show. But don't you worry, Sinister, when I know when I'm gonna be on the telly, you'll know too. ///WE ARE THE SELF-REFERENTIAL SOCIETY\\\ There was a York Sinister Massive pubnic on Wednesday afternoon. Six of the YSM made an appearance: myself, Featherboa, Start Hallifax, Jen Knutsson, Gina Titchener and James Thorniley. It was a pleasant affair - beverages drunk included BEER, COKE, ORGANIC HOT CHOCOLATE and HERBAL TEA, and institutions patronised included BARS and PUBS - and we ended up in some strange hippie colony of a bar where you could play the piano, trumpets and the guitars that were lying around. Much fun. In said hippie colony we paid a pound to Amnesty so that we could carve a not-remotely-cliquey message about Sinister into the table. I won't tell you what it said though; you'll have to visit us to find out. ///THE LONELINESS OF AN OUT-OF-WORK THESP\\\ There was a trailor on BBC1 last night for a new drama-type thing with what?-I-thought-she-was-dead-or-summit poncey actress Enema Thompson. The reason I mention this is because the soundtrack to the trailor was "Fiction" from the Storytelling album. Observant sinisterines may note that this isn't the first time that Auntie has used B&S. Go on, let Carsmile refresh your memory: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200110/msg00064.html. Lovely. ///END BIT\\\ 'tis all. I "love" *you*. Asm.x ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy" - Mandy Cohen _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hobart at xxx.uk Fri Dec 6 12:24:05 2002 From: hobart at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:24:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: you have nothing to live up to, you have nothing to live down Message-ID: <018501c29d22$7afac960$f090883e@default> firstly, sam walton... it isn't acceptable to tell us you're going to be on the TELEVISION and then not tell us when we can tune in and watch it... details please! hannah, and anyone else who cares, there was a sinister bowlie list run last year. run by mr daf. moore. perhaps he will advertise it this year? i'll leave that up to him. right, on with the usual waffle. some of it is actually about b&s, yknow.. ---------- the sinister void is legendary. a great, gaping black hole somewhere to the south of aberdeen, it swallows up all the replies you HOPED you'd get to your post.* it has been a hungry beastie of late, i'm sure. depressed at the number of people hitting 'delete' one line into most of my posts, i decided to seek advice. thankfully, it was freely available. but i didn't ask the man who stands on the bull ring bridge and shouts about jesus. his advice is usually 'cleanse yourself of your sins' and it would take a fucking HUGE bar of soap to do that. instead, i found a nice man in birmingham rag market. he sold me a magic mirror. for just 2 squids, AND he threw in a free plastic bag. apparently, all one needs to do is ask the mirror a question. in rhyme, if possible. i tried: mirror, mirror, on the sofa how do i get a reply to a post on sinista? nothing, for ages. vowing to take it back to the thieving bastard who charged me 2 POUNDS for it, i went to make myself a cup of tea. and dropped it, when i came back to hear: 'ian, if you're not going to challenge me, i'm not going to put myself out to reply in rhyme. especially given the paucity of your effort. wordsworth you aint. in fact, your lyrical construction would make even sylvia plath shudder. anyway, as you so tiresomely asked about an internet list, i'll answer you. no. 1 write a sensible post. don't pretend to be a god, a nun, or an hip-swingy, arm-wavey maracca shakey type of pop star. don't talk about the religious implications of squiggles you found on your keyboard. don't pretend you've been receiving death-threats from archel playforth, when it was she who had to take out a restraining order on YOU........ don't... oh well, you get my drift. no. 2. its a music list. say something about music. no. 3 try not to drift off at a tangent and start spouting pornography' frigging hell. magic mirror, indeed... that piece of junk is going back in the morning. write something about music? what sort of crazy idea is that? but, looking at the recent sigur ros thread on sinister (bloody hell... 'thread', 'sinister'...) it would seem to be correct. and, weirdly, those posts were interesing to read too. who would have thought it?? write something about music.. god, that's a challenge... music, music, music... well, music,...errr....its nice, isn't it? madonna thinks it makes the people come together. which is always a good trick. at least one of you doesn't vanish off to the bathroom to grab some tissue while the other one lies there feeling abandoned and pissed off... (number 3.. try not to drift off at a tangent and start spouting pornograpy. bugger) can madonna's opinion be trusted? this is the woman who once sang a song about saying farewell to a PIE. also, she's shagging guy ritchie which isn't a good sign. let's pretend, for the purposes of this post, that she doesn't exist. -------------------- 'music'...too broad a subject, maybe...let's be more specific. 'belle and sebastian have become utter pish'. i suspect the person who typed this is still reading the archives, looking for some controversy he might have stirred up, so i won't mention his name. utter pish? i looked up 'pish' in the dictionary. it said 'like piss, but scottish'. oh. well, some people think piss is great. the woman in the hippy shop in moseley told me i should drink my own, three times a day. but then she does tend to talk crap. belle and sebastian = piss... hmm.. clearly that isn't true. piss is yellow. belle and sebastian are not. case closed. then again.... maybe its time to say it..... i thought 'storytelling' sounded half-developed, like a band chucking out something for their fans, and saying 'will this do?'. i've been disappointed by their recent live performances. i think its sad that isobel left, (although at the time i thought it was good, because when you're on stage you really shouldn't have someone at the front, yawning throughout for all the audience to see, because if you can't even be excited about your own music, how can you expect other people to be?) err...where was i...oh yes... but now... i think its sad ....about isobel's departure... if struan was the brain of b&s, isobel seemed like the heart, at least to begin with, in those glory days and crazy crazy nights.. ZESE ARE CRAAZZY CRAZZY CRAAAZZY CRRAZZZZY NIGHTS ZESE ARE CRAZZZZY CRAAAZZY CRAZZZZY CRAAAZZZY NIGHTS oops... i'm sorry. i don't know what came over me. (number three... don't go off at a tangent, and start spouting pornography) err... where was i? oh yes, isobel...the heart. but i think, if you'll let me stretch my metaphor, the heart was broken. are they now a band without a heart? or has the jackson transplant been successful? either way, there's no denying they've changed. no matter how much struan protests he hasn't ('how could i?' more easily than you think, dear.) would i join a b&s mailing list now? yeah, why the hell not? they're not my favourite band any more, but they're still...yknow...okay and if that isn't damning them with faint praise, i don't know what is. would i vote for them, as suggested by michael ashbridge, in peelie's festive fifty? abserlutely no way.. in a year when beth gibbons has released 'mysteries', a song so beautiful, it should be put on display and people should be FORCED to go up to it, and lick it..., when jad fair and teenage fanclub released the ridiculously infectious 'near to you' and where the cheeky girls have released the deceptively understated 'we are the cheeky girls' (watch this pair- gay icons in the making..) it really wouldn't be right to vote for 'i'm waking up to us'. (plus, i think the last b&s single came out in 2001. which is a good reason not to vote for it.) but i'm looking forward to the peel acres show. especially them (err... this is going to sound exceptionally twee, but RAH for tweeness) singing carols. their version of 'oh come, oh come emmanuel' was my favourite track on that xfm christmas album that came out a couple of years back.. err... except isobel sang on it. and she can't do that any more. bugger. the petition to bring her back starts here. i'm going to throw away all those copies of the last petition, the one to get rid of her. i really miss her yawney doe-eyed heavy-breathey ways. (not enough to buy a gentle waves album, don't be silly). if they got pigeonholed as 'twee'.. well, i never thought that was a particularly bad thing. i always liked their refusal to be hard in the face of the world. that was one of the things that set them apart from their contemporaries. that was one of the things i held up to be admired when people started their 'the smiths were much better' rants. i've always been a romantic fool. and i like my musicians the same way. i saw a boy who was walking through selly oak carrying a big teddy bear, and wearing a parka yesterday. he looked so pleasingly twee that i wanted to run up and hug him. there was i time, way back in 1999.. when the first bowlie occurred, and people came from ALL OVER THE GLOBE to the special belle and sebastian festival, that it seemed like that sort of softness could RULE THE WORLD. or at least find its way into popular culture for a bit, and produce a generation of softies. i wish it had done so. a look at the line up for this years bowlie shows what really happened. apparently, according to the web site some of the chalets have started to sell out. i can only assume that this is a LIE. but perhaps i should accept that its true, and that the likes of wevie stunder are the way forward.. no more tweeness, any more. but i still want to go, because of what it once was, not what it is now. hang out with a bunch of softies (because most of you are, whether you admit it or not) and sit on the beach. sod the bands, dream of a gentler world. one where laughing groups of over-aged 'boys' and 'girls' skip up the beach together, holding hands, and swinging their 'hello kitty' pencil cases. it still could happen. ----------------------------------------- number four, said the mirror, name your post after an obscure indie song. maybe even make a reference to it in your post.... err... emma's house is empty, so why do i call it emma's house done xx ian * of course, it isn't a black hole. a void cannot, by definition, be a colour. so let's just say that its very, very dark.** ** err...actually, IS black a colour? somebody once told me that it wasn't. but i think they were INSANE. i have a black jumper, and it certainly SEEMS to be a colour, but perhaps i'm deceiving myself. ------------------------------------- at least morrissey observes a considered silence and spares us all from him being a bloody pansy. anon ------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Fri Dec 6 23:04:44 2002 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 23:04:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: gap Message-ID: Dear Sinister, It�s a clich� to be miserable at Christmas. The Offbeat Belle and Sebastian special. Reporting back. It was fun. I flew the flag for Sinister and danced to every single b&s song played, and some others too. It was strange. With people behaving in unexpected ways. I behaved oddly myself and told someone that I don�t know at all that his enjoyment of caving was probably something oedipal, something about retreating back into the womb. I asked him if he�d ever felt violent urges towards his father. He didn�t understand. Birmingham is bleaker than I remember. Grimmer. Last week off the train the first person who talks to me is homeless Dave, pestering me for cash. Have I told you about him? He was on TV recently. I probably have. I didn�t give him anything. On the street someone stopped me and asked if I knew where he could buy weed. I told him no. Because I don�t. He singled me out, though, from amongst a whole load of people. Perhaps I need to change my image. Are you angry or are you boring? I have my gifts ready for the Sinister present exchange, nothing too flashy. I wont say quite what so I don�t spoil the surprise. I�m going to send them off tomorrow. Two cows standing in a field. One turns to the other and says: �What do you think of all this BSE talk then?� The other cow looks up and replies: �Doesn�t affect me, I�m a fucking duck.� At the moment I�m tired of my English Lit course. I quite fancy quitting and doing a foundation art course. It�d be a massive step backwards because it would mean living at home again for a year and eschewing all the freedom I have in Sheffield, but I want more creative control � what�s the point in my being here if I can�t write how I want? What do you reckon? I�m going home for the holidays about this time next week. I can�t decide if I�m quite looking forward to it or not, last weekend I spent in Birmingham I stayed over at my friend�s house both nights, only seeing my family fleetingly. I feel a bit guilty about that. One of the ideas I had was that everything you ever said be taken down by some device which would then print out your words in light grey ink on an old dot matrix printer, on the long joined up reams of paper with the faint green print on the back, and everything you had said over the course of a month would be mailed out to you in print form, but minus the original context, so it would just be your own isolated words staring back at you. Reporting Back. I met another list member from Sheffield. Neil. That was nice. Hi Neil. You know that thing people sometimes do, where they exchange phone numbers, knowing full well that neither will call, just so it appears as though they have lots of mates when scrolling through their numbers? I don�t do that. What�s the name of that colour that exists where green, grey and brown overlap? My old German teacher used to have a dress in that colour. We could never decide which it was. Debating that was more fun than Grammatik anyhow. This is another toothpaste question. It's another Venn-Diagram thing (some info on John Venn here: http://sue.csc.uvic.ca/~cos/venn/VennJohnEJC.html). It's another duck/rabbit old woman/young woman candlestick/two faces thing. My brother and I used to have big mock-shouty arguments about those where I would insistantly yell "It's a candlestick!" and he "It's two faces!" thus debunking the notion that the whole point is that it can be both. We were philosophers before our time. Did I tell you that the lead singer from the 80�s Matchbox B-line Whatever spoke to me the other day? He had just done this terrible gig which I had unfortunately witnessed, he�s such a poser � I dislike descriptions like this, but they�re a band for people who pretend not to like metal. I like metal. He was lost and couldn�t find where his bus was parked. I told him the way. He singled me out, though, from amongst a whole load of people. Perhaps I need to change my image. I suppose I should comment on S*g*r R*s. Actually, no. I wont. Relationships with the people here remain strained � the talk has turned to who and where everyone will live next year, unfortunately excluding myself. Not that I mind. I might not even be here next year and I have people to live with if I am anyway. But nonetheless, Very tactless of them. Word Count. Please excuse my brevity. Have a happy Christmas if I don�t write before then. - Kieran p.s. I remember ages ago when we were on holiday somewhere, on the beach. When it was time to go home I took a stick and dragged it through the sand as we walked back up towards our caravan. When we reached the edge of the beach and I was forced to abandon the stick I looked back and the little trail I'd left seemed to stretch on for miles. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Sat Dec 7 01:18:07 2002 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 19:18:07 -0600 Subject: Sinister: i'm waiting on the rain, i'm waiting for the frogs to fall, down on me Message-ID: So it's almost Christmas time. One of my favourite times of the year. If not THE favourite. I'm sick again. Well, i've always been sick I suppose, but this is in the physical sense. I'm sick a lot out here. Especially the last month and a half or so. It's terrible. And it always pops up right around the time each of the essays for my courses are due. I was so excited about this Scottish History Essay. I was picking out the books with a childish glee, really. Just the thought of immersing myself for a few days in the early stewart kings of Scotland, learning the treachery brewing around James I, the unfortunate Black Douglas incident of James II, That bitch of a battle at Flodden for poor James IV. But the day I picked out my first few books, it hit me. I was dizzy and tired and couldn't concentrate. I was coughing so much I couldn't read the book properly. I couldn't take anything in. Today is the first day I haven't really been coughing since then. I know I'm getting better, but I'm constantly tired and have a killer headache. Why does this keep happening to me? I don't think Glasgow likes me. I really don't. It's a lovely town, it really is, but I don't take advantage of it by any means. I probably should, and I just might, if I wasn't sick all the damn time. Or broke because an ATM took my bank card, and I have to wait six weeks to get a new one. Or I'm just too lazy. Sure the people are great, and I meet lots of interesting people all the time (although I can never remember who they are). And NPL and especially the Winchester Club fridaythethirteenthpeople! are brilliant fun, but I never got ill back home. I think when I'm better, I'm going to go to woolworths and get myself some christmas decorations. It's a great time of year. Brings back lots of good memories. And I love the winter. I love the cold. I'll be going home for Christmas in a few weeks. I'll decide when I get back if I want to stay here. I probably will. I don't like giving up that easily. I haven't even been to Stirling or Falkirk or Edinburgh yet. Or Berwick or even Langside. I have to do that. Glasgow and I will have to come to some sort of understanding. I think we could be really good friends. I really do like the weather here. -Matt P.S. On a belle and sebastian note, does anyone know why "MS." House and Sarah Martin were thanked at the end of the Pavement documentary "Slow Century"? I have to admit, that's the real reason behind this long, rambling, and somewhat depressing e-mail. And I think my headache had something to do with it as well. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heartxdan at xxx.com Sat Dec 7 01:37:52 2002 From: heartxdan at xxx.com (elizabeth trawick) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:37:52 -0800 Subject: Sinister: The Perils of Being a High School Senior Message-ID: Hi Sinisters. It's been a while, hasn't it? I was blowing up balloons at work today and one of them popped. Well, the whole balloon didn't pop. Just the bottom. I have a habit of closing in air between the opening and the actual balloon part... What a horrible thing! My teacher played some music the other day from Ireland or Scotland. I can't remember which because I've a horrible memory, but I remember looking to my friend Laura and the both of us saying "Oh, that sounds like Belle and Sebastian!". It did indeed sound like them. Nice and comfy-like. I enjoyed everything my teacher played that day. At the end of the class I told her that my friend and I were both reminded of Belle and Sebastian and that she ought ('you can't get an "ought" from an "is"', and I don't know why I put that there ;) to listen to them. I asked if she would like to borrow a cd. She replied yes. With a smile, no less! I've been trying to find a way to get her into Belle and Sebastian since I found out she's a Simon and Garfunkle fan. Hee. Well. Today I brought Dog On Wheels for her to listen to. I told her that my favourite song by them is String Bean Jean (oh goodness, there are so many reasons why!) and that she should especially pay attention to it. I was very frightened that I wouldn't have my cd back. She was leaving for New York this afternoon and she hadn't given it back to me by the end of the day. Oh, but she did give it back to me just in time! She found me in Computer App. She put the cd in my hand and told me "I liked it. All of it." with a big toothy grin. I couldn't help but smile and ask "Really?". I offered to let her borrow a full-length cd and she said she would love to (in her own words, hee). Oh, the joys... My trip to Glasgow is inching ever closer. I'm getting very excited right now. I can hardly stay put in my seat! I should be excited because I'm spending time with my boyfriend over there, but oh goodness... I'm more excited about Scotland! What an awful girlfriend I must be! Perhaps I can (and more than likely will!) meet a few of you out there. That would be terribly exciting! Ah, I must get going now. There is hair to be dealth with and clothes to be changed! And also a few Orlando Bloom pictures to be looked at (but that's just between you and me)... xoxo, Elizabeth p.s. I bought myself a pair of knee-high socks (someone posted about them once!) and I quite like them. They're only black. Perhaps I will take the plunge and get the baby blue pair I've been wanting so badly! _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Sat Dec 7 00:20:49 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 00:20:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: sad sad chairs Message-ID: <20021207002049.75127.qmail@web14406.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everyone Just a quick link really. And it's an inexplicable story of chair stroke shoe related misfortune. It made me strangely sad and I thought of sinister. Now what does that tell you? http://www.mantlepies.com/disaster.html Such a sad chair. I hope everyone's got enough vitamin b12 in their diet. I'll be checking!!! Dean XX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chippyeileen at xxx.uk Sat Dec 7 13:24:44 2002 From: chippyeileen at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?chippy=20eileen?=) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 13:24:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: hiding In-Reply-To: <20021206131843.24169.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20021207132444.17090.qmail@web14504.mail.yahoo.com> sinister list, i have missed you. it has been nine months since my last confession. i remember standing in a chip shop in east langerston, the small village in yorkshire where i was brought up, and watching the fish floating in the vat of oil. i talked to you about a gypsy i once met, and how she told me that life moved in spirals. and then i left town. i left for somewhere bigger, and more exciting. i left for a lot of reasons. one of them was an embarassing crush on my ex-boyfriend. an ex-boyfriend who now had ex-boyfriends of his own. and now.. now i'm standing in a chip shop in east langerston, the small village in yorkshire where i was brought up. i'm watching the fish float in a vat of oil. margaret, my adopted mother, is 'taking a rest' upstairs, something she has to do on a regular basis right now. frank, my adopted father, is in the pub. the new pub. east langerston now has two pubs, a chip shop and a woman who goes from house to house, cutting and combing the hair of old ladies. i used to stand here and listen to my belle and sebastian records on a little radio. these days, the chip shop has a television. margaret watches a lot of television at the moment. she says the noise comforts her. i think it helped to contribute to her break-down, but have not yet found a way to say this. the television plays hits from mtv. the customers complain if i switch it off. they have become used to it. it is familiar. i am the unfamiliar element in this chip shop. gone for six months, returning to feel more like a stranger here than ever. if i show you an ink polaroid, you must promise not to laugh. this is me, in sheffield, with my girlfriend. she's the one on the right, with her arm around me. we were together for three months. i left her last week. i am asked to turn up the television. a girl who is too young to be this drunk wants to hear the song. atomic kitten look like the girls everyone was scared of at school, only older, with babies of their own now. i suppose those girls, the ones that were the bullies, now have babies of their own too, and they clutch their babies close to them, scared that somebody will hurt the child in the way their mothers hurt the rest of us. the women on the television are singing about it being okay that their lover has left. i wonder if this is ever true. i don't recognise the drunken girl in the chip shop, and she doesn't look at me as she dances around, humming the words of a song that i hope she is too young to understand and stroking her stomach. i am an unimportant audience.. this is not a performance for me. this song says everything she'd like to be able to say right now. it bores me, but it comforts her. and she'll need comfort, as her belly grows. when i hand her pie over, i am suprised to find my eyes are moist at the corners. she looks at me as if i am insane. you're not here, but its okay maggie. her name was maggie. my girlfriend. and, looking back, i admired her, and wanted to love her. she has long, black hair and she lectures at the college where i spent two weeks. media studies. i didn't want to study media really, i was quite happy just listening to records, but an 'a' level in english literature would have felt lonely on its own. maggie's first lecture was about musical television. i can't remember much of what she said. i just remember that she stood in the middle of the little room and sang to us. i don't think it had anything to do with the lecture, i think she'd just decided singing 'somewhere over the rainbow' to a class of young adults might be a fun thing to do. sometimes i wonder if it was because she had forgotten her lecture notes. i told myself i had fallen in love right then. i left a note on her desk, telling her where i lived and giving her my telephone number. and then i left college. two weeks later, i got a letter saying i should go to the administrators and explain my absence. when i got there, she was waiting outside the room. she told me i shouldn't have left. and she took me to the nearest pub. two months later, sick of visiting me in my mouldy room, she asked me to move in with her. and i did it. and i told myself it would feel right, because there had to be a reason i'd never managed to have sex with a man, and when she played the velvet underground, and lit an incense burner above her silk sheets, it seemd like i'd found the reason. i remember, the words about shiney boots of leather echoing around my head, as maggie taught me a lot about life. but something was wrong. but you must forgive me, sinister list, because this is not what i meant to tell you. maybe i'll tell you the rest of this story another day. the chip shop closed half an hour ago. i am listening to my songs as i type. somebody is staggering home from the Bull, attempting to sing 'love me tender' with the aid of several pints of beer. it covers up the words of what i'm trying to listen to, but it feels real. another performance. a public one, but the emotion behind it is private. and i am trying not to cry again. my cds lie, unpacked, in the corner. i have been looking forward to playing my old records, the ones i couldn't take with me. i can hear margaret's television through the wall, she is watching a violent film, something about vampires, and i can hear keys in the back door downstairs. i will leave the cds, and the records. once, i would have hidden within them, but now the hiding is not so easy. too many of them are old friends, with stories to tell. stories where people are broken. there is not a suitable hiding place right now. guilt is too hard to escape. i can't tell my parents why i'm unhappy. i don't want to explain that i'm upset because i couldn't make myself be gay. it isn't something they would want to hear. and they have their own problems. sinister list, i wanted to give you a performance like maggie's, that first day in class. i wanted to tell you that way up high, there was a land that i'd dreamed of. but it all comes out like an mtv song. distant, unreal, impossible to connect with. somebody else's life. i will send this tomorrow. now, i shall go and make frank a cup of coffee. it sounds like he could do with it. and we'll play his records, the ones i remember from my childhood. and we'll try and hide in cliff richard. perhaps we'll hide together. i think that if you can hide together, you might be able to find each other again. eileen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david_moore at xxx.uk Sat Dec 7 11:52:55 2002 From: david_moore at xxx.uk (David Moore) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 11:52:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I Wonder What The Working Title Of The New Album Is? Message-ID: <000601c29de7$316b0a60$b2123c3e@oemcomputer> Hi All, I've been thinking of writing to you for quite a while, but I didn't have much to say. I still don't know whether that's changed - I'll let you decide. I don't think it's been mentioned here, or in that other place that the Dirty Vicar finds more exciting, but there has been a little Belle And Sebastian activity apart from them recording a new album, getting the Horn, etc. A bloke called Ben Vaughn released an album called Glasgow Time on Francis Macdonald's Shoeshine records www.shoeshine.co.uk and a bloke called Stevie Jackson contributed backing vocals & played bass & harmonica on it. It's OK. Francis M has put out his own album (as Nice Man) called Sauchiehall And Hope and a nice girl called Sarah Martin took the photographs on the cover. Its pretty nice. The Shoeshine empire's best recent release by far is of course Laura Cantrell's When the Roses Bloom Again (I think you have to look at http://www.shoeshine.co.uk/Roses%20page.htm for that one). WOW!. That was a bit on topic really, wasn't it? Ok then, lets get off: One of my favourite musicians is playing two shows in London soon (& now that he lives in Sweden that doesn't happen very often). Ant, formerly drummer with the former Hefner, will be at the Betsy Trotwood on the 19th of December. Jack Hayter will support, Darren Hayman will play records. I suspect John will lurk about too. Then on the afternoon of the 21st Ant plays RoTa, in the Notting Hill Arts Club, with some other dudes. You could listen to some of his stuff at www.antpop.com , but I recommend going in any case. There's a Ant song on a Swedish compilation called Hit Music Only, which also contains a Sodastream song that you can't get anywhere else. If that's of interest try http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-67927/index.html for more info. I hope I'll see some of you lovely people this evening, & more of you next weekend. Take care of yourselves, Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zoziepop at xxx.com Sat Dec 7 15:10:01 2002 From: zoziepop at xxx.com (Dimitra Daisy) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 17:10:01 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Today/Re:Hiding Message-ID: Dear Sinister, On the day Ian walked towards us in the park bringing cheap fizzy wine, strawberries and a chocolate cake, cheap fizzy wine, strawberries and a chocolate cake seemed like all one could ask for, all one needs to be happy. And there are days when strawberries and chocolate and wine don�t mean nothing. There are days when the world seems quite hopeless: days when everyone seems unkind or at least inconsiderate, days when you think the world is so full of bad or wrong things you�ll spend all your life fighting against them and you�ll have no energy left to smile. Days that make you think that what�s written on a wall just up the street is true. �Live for your salary, die for you country� the wall reads and there are days when I feel that�s more or less what a lot of people get in this life. And that it is a great shame. But there are other days, days like the one Ian walked towards us in the park, or like today. Today is as cold as days in Thessaloniki ever get (quite cold) and so windy it�s hard to walk up streets. You can occasionally hear windows breaking, things falling off back balconies, door slamming and shutters banging. On top of all this it�s sort of raining too and the pavements are wet and slippery and full of puddles. I think everyone hates this weather, but I don�t, at least not today. Despite having a cold and not feeling great, today I find this weather exciting. Today the world seems like a place full of light, a place where things could go right (despite so many of them being going wrong all the time), a place full with meaningful smiles, colourful things, even niceness and love; a place where we could be happy. I wrapped up in as many clothes as I could find and I went to the little shop on the corner to buy eggs, chocolate and tissues that come in a box with photos of flowers (guess which bit I like the most, the tissues or the box). The bloke who keeps it was listening to the radio. The radio was playing Palm Of My Hand. Palm of my hand is a rather old Pale Fountains song, of course most of you don�t know the band let alone the song, but here it was a radio hit if sorts in the eighties� However it is a very nice (quite Belle and Sebastian-y, actually) trumpety pop song about being in love, I think. And it�s probably the only trumpety pop song my first memories of which go way back to my childhood, one of the very few songs people used to listen to when I was really little that I would like even if I first heard them now. All this makes it pretty special, and what with the weather being a exciting and the world seeming like a nice place today I felt like the universe was smiling to me. Walking down the street I walked past the aforementioned wall and I read the writing on it again, and I realised I don�t agree with it less today� I just think there really is a way to get from things like that and that trying won�t wear you out too much... I felt there�s an inherence balance in the world and we just need to discover it and work with it� My mind didn�t take me very seriously but the rest of me was celebrating� And I have no idea what it is that makes some days quite hopeless and some others so bright. Whatever it is, it seems quite random. What I know though is that I want a world like the one I see today, can someone give it to me for Christmas? Thank you, I will very much appreciate that, Dimitra Daisy xx Ps This started out as a reply to Eileen�s post... I�m not sure exactly what it has to do with it though. ~~~~ Meanwhile, the idea has left its home in the sky and it was travelling fast through the atmosphere of the planet... it landed on the bed, among us, the empty cups of tea and the Lucksmiths, Sodastream and Magnetic Fields records. http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk/ _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bookworm_trochet at xxx.com Sat Dec 7 20:43:55 2002 From: bookworm_trochet at xxx.com (Holly ) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:43:55 -0800 Subject: Sinister: you have nothing to live up to, you have nothing to live down Message-ID: <20021207204355.23216.qmail@mail.com> "then again.... maybe its time to say it..... i thought 'storytelling' sounded half-developed, like a band chucking out something for their fans, and saying 'will this do?'. i've been disappointed by their recent live performances. i think its sad that isobel left, (although at the time i thought it was good, because when you're on stage you really shouldn't have someone at the front, yawning throughout for all the audience to see, because if you can't even be excited about your own music, how can you expect other people to be?) err...where was i...oh yes... but now... i think its sad ....about isobel's departure... if struan was the brain of b&s, isobel seemed like the heart, at least to begin with, in those glory days and crazy crazy nights.." Here's my take on it: Storytelling was made for a movie, right? It's definitely not their best work, but it has some redeeming songs on it, right? Wandering Alone has the really nice violin interlude, does it not? And Scooby Driver, while short, is definitely worth a listen. Big John Shaft sounds quite a bit like regular 'ol B&S and even the title track is decent. Anyway, what I'm getting at is that we should forgive them Storytelling (which I readily admit, was a bit of a disappointment), and see what they go on to do. Afterall, I was a bit disappointed in Legal Man - I liked the song, but when I heard the whole CD, I sincerely hoped that it wasn't going to be their "new direction" - and it wasn't. I really enjoyed Fold Your Hands..., Jonathan David and I'm Waking Up to Us. As for Isobel leaving, before I decide whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, I want to hear their new alubm. For all I know, it could be full of songs just as wonderful as "Lazy Line Painter Jane" or "Century of Fakers". Then again, it could be full of "Beyond the Sunrise"s. (blech!) Furthermore, Isobel could always rejoin the band. Sure, it seeems like a long-shot since she's now busy getting a new release together (correct me if I'm wrong there), but you never know. She might decide that she likes working with the band better. And even if she doesn't rejoin, she can always do the occasional guest performance. Anyway, that's my two cents. -Holly -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup One click access to the Top Search Engines http://www.exactsearchbar.com/mailcom +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sinkingpie at xxx.com Sun Dec 8 16:36:59 2002 From: sinkingpie at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?sinkingpie?=) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 16:36:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Am I wandering alone? Message-ID: <20021208163659.12642.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Music, on sinister? I'm sure someone said something along those lines, but I can't seem to find the post, hence no "" marks. So, music, and Storytelling. Seems to have been quite a lot of criticism of that considering this is generally a list of fans, and indeed criticism of the band's recentness (think I made that word up). Perhaps Storytelling didn't have the immediate catchy tunes from the If your feeling Sinister era, but perhaps that isn't such a bad thing. Some people evidently are not convinced by this style: "Here's my take on it: Storytelling was made for a movie, right? It's definitely not their best work, but it has some redeeming songs on it, right?....Anyway, what I'm getting at is that we should forgive them Storytelling..." I certainly enjoyed Storytelling, a nice mix of, well, everything really. From the opening instrumentals, to the out-of-context spoken word. The more lyrical offerings of "Wandering Alone" and "I don't want to play football" of course shouldn't be overlooked, but the trick with this album is that it is an album, not merely a collection of songs. Isobel's departure also should be mentioned perhaps. At first I certainly thought it was a bad thing, but if it gives Isobel more time for her solo projects, then I can see sense. The Gentle Waves sounded amazing when she was part of Belle and Sebastian, with more time, who knows what they can achieve. Anyway, I think I have stayed reasonably close to the guidlines suggested by ian's mirror, perhaps replies will happen, perhaps not. sinkingpie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From languagecreep at xxx.com Sun Dec 8 17:14:31 2002 From: languagecreep at xxx.com (I am Tortuga) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 12:14:31 -0500 Subject: Sinister: As I crawl out of my cocoon Message-ID: *blink* *look around* Quite a lot of you here. Once I get my bearings we shall have to become acquainted. *stretch* Oh, seems I have wings now. I'm not sure, but it may have something to do with that Chu fellow traipsing about and spilling red bull everywhere while I was trying to have a nap in the cocoon. Whatever happened, I shall have to find a good way to put these wings to use. My name is Kara and I like Lata Mangeshkar. See you all again very soon, Kara www2.bc.edu/~brielman _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joan_of_dark at xxx.com Sun Dec 8 22:12:12 2002 From: joan_of_dark at xxx.com (Joan of Dark) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 00:12:12 +0200 Subject: Sinister: A life in an hourglass.... Message-ID: When in your ears, forgotten, you find the sand of the noon and on the corners of your eyes, dried salts, but not of the sea, then you know�. Every summer, anywhere I might set sails for, it�s always here that I cast anchor� On the lost continent of my childhood years, the mythical Atlantis of memories. The shattered skies of teenage yearn for the faded images of my reflected self, the way they reflect through the broken mirror of memories. Here, the sight gets perched, looking for the girl with the short trousers and the knees that were covered with scratches, between the leafage of time and in the deserted alleyways where she was forgotten. What am I looking for, I wonder, and what nails me down? What magnet directs the north pole of my feelings? When melodies resound husky, as if from within your tired, troubled mind, songs forgotten or that never existed, songs that you want to convince yourself that you remember, so as to not let yourself admit that you are so utterly alone� When the hazy, weary notes harmonize with the whispering of the leaves in the summer breeze and the sounds, following the rhythm of your breathing, are discerned with difficulty ; the practiced ear of memory gathers echoes from the partings all through the years. A memory that flutters clumsily in the air, a moist nostalgia of return or repetition, and a feeling of absence that burns on the isle of indefinable desire. �Then, when Virgo was the constellation of innocence. Then, when names were real and words held the true weight of their meaning. Even miracles were real then, because I needed them to be. Because I believed in miracles. Then. . . On the clear nights of August I would press my hands on my ears so hard, to hear the flow of the Milky Way that was spilled on the heavens, while in reality I was only listening to the flow of my blood streaming in the veins of my arms. Such were the miracles that I believed in then. Yes. That the world was as wide as a stride of my childish legs, created to suit my size. That it was given to me as a present and I was challenged to win it or lose it. But now the pain inside me gets unbearable because I was told in loud shouts never to believe in these things any more, as they are the most vulgar of lies. And I feel deadly cold inside because I knew it all along but as always, I was too scared to admit it. Even to myself . . . Now the sun lustfully strokes my limbs but does not manage to warm the unbearable cold in my heart. Light changes angle and refracts, flooding my eyes, and a scent of mint and dried soil fills my lungs . . . Then I know . . . . . .That the season is coming to an end, and with it, the crumbs of the illusory dreams, which I kept feeding my emaciated soul with. I wake up one morning and I find out not that there�s nothing left to me, but rather that I did not leave anything to myself. That, like maybugs, I held my dreams tightly laced around their necks with strings too short, tied around my wrist. Left them hum insanely from anticipation and the false hope that they could drift me along, to fly with them. And in the end, one by one they were left to moulder in their shackles. Some of them managed to break free and fly away. As far as possible. From my crooked, arthritic fingers that strangle everything. The season is coming to an end and all that is left to us is the tan lines that carve our bodies trying to retain a memory, a faint scent of pine trees and sea-ravaged rocks, for as long as they can through the winter. But summer people are different than the ones of winter. They wear swimsuits, pretend to be Adam and Eve; they are immersed in the illusion of physical bliss. In winter, wrapped in their coats, buried in their worries, they try to forget, their eyes avoid meeting. Then you know that this is the end of a season. Its colour you cannot discern, neither its scent or taste. Only thing I am left with is a string through which the beads of my mistakes are pulled. A colourful ornament to wear around my neck. But my truths are kept elsewhere. And maybe all the things that I really loved where the ones that I let slip away from me, unable to bear their weight. My thoughts, weary, cannot even stand to reproduce themselves and fall senseless on the floor. I forget them there. Cast music on my open wounds. Sing to my festered scars to heal them... joanna _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gettingfurtheraway at xxx.com Mon Dec 9 03:10:08 2002 From: gettingfurtheraway at xxx.com (dagnyrae) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 19:10:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: these colors you see were picked in advance by some careful hand with an absolute concept of beauty. Message-ID: <20021209031008.1212.qmail@web10708.mail.yahoo.com> notes: *eileen wrote the kind of post that made me join and come back. thanks for that. this post will pale in comparison. further commentary: they say that when you lose a part of yourself -- a limb, perhaps, or a fingertip -- you still feel it, even though it's no longer there. i think we feel this way about all parts of ourselves, physical or emotional; the funny thing about it, though, is that all we have from day one until the very end is what we were born with, what was always there. most emotions, or emotional attachments are not like that -- we create them ourselves. and when we lose one, we feel the pain of loss quite purely; we know it isn't there, and we doubt whether it ever really was. we don't feel like we still have that missing part; it is just gone. perhaps we can only truly lose those parts of ourselves that were always there, those fingers and toes and inclinations with which we were born. we cannot make additional limbs or fingers, though some days we might like to, and have them feel real and right. we can only adapt in what ways we know how and know, when some emotional attachment is severed, that that raw, freshly unadorned place in us is like an outlet on a wall, waiting for a new plug to be inserted, a new use. we all have those little holes to be filled when born, and, at that time, we have, too, a specific mold for which plugs must fit. we cannot force keys or forks or those little lite-brite pegs into our outlets without getting shocked. when we lose what we create, we must be comforted knowing that we can always create more with what we have, and have coming. *ian said he hoped that one day, people would still be twee. or something like that. i'd imagine if someone were to walk around my town carrying a teddy bear, of any size, he would be five, or considered 'odd.' i embrace oddities. i try to celebrate mine. and while sometimes overwhelming tweeness annoys me, i am that, i suppose, and i hope that everyone everywhere will someday retain that capacity to hold a teddy bear in public, which is just as good as saying i hope everyone will be able to remember what it was like to see the world colored by something more than things like war or images of what we are supposed to be in order to be deemed heroic and right. *music, in any form, should be the proper center of everything. if it comes from conversation or radios or mtv or a list, to dance and to sing without form is to be happy for a moment. i sing when i write, and i imagine that sometimes i sing always, even when sleeping or brushing my teeth or kissing some stranger in the basement of a house at a party. *elizabeth should buy light blue knee socks. i myself am wearing some right now, even though the cold outside warrants full stockings, and i wonder that i never managed to enjoy these when i was small. well. smaller. *** a thrift store in town closed this weekend, and i didn't know until today, when i went there to buy a dress, and found the windows covered with wide sheets of white paper. later, i heard the salvation army had bought the building, fired all the workers and sold the clothes and sundry goods inside at 75 percent off over the weekend. now i imagine fifteen or twenty people at home, fired and looking for new jobs two weeks before christmas thanks to, of all things, the salvation army. perhaps they can get jobs ringing those bells beside red buckets, raising money to help the needy through the charitable efforts of....oh. the salvation army. it's on days like these, with news like this, that i wonder about people and our inherent senses of right and wrong, animosity and goodwill. business versus pleasure. science versus romance. or something like that. *** for two years i was enamoured with a certain boy who i could find throughout the week at a certain coffee shop in town. he poured my tea and i flashed toothy smiles and i thought all would be well if i waited it out long enough. and one day not so very long ago, he and i sat on his porch, enclosed by a screen, on a couch with a bottle of wine and a pack of camel lights. he lit my cigarettes and i soothed his ego, and, in the end, he took my hand and led me inside without saying much. three days later, he said he hadn't meant it. he was drunk, of course, and i, like i generally do, read into things. gave meanings where there were none. i tried to get over it. in traditional girl fashion, i and my best friend got together over smokes and drinks and dissected, found all the asshole qualities with singleton glee and damned fuckwits worldwide. a few nights ago, at a party i chose not to attend, she and the boy kissed. and kissed. and kissed more. there is a date. that, apparently, will not be a "date," per se, just a jumping off dinner for discussion of friendship betwixt said parties. she won't care, they said of me. she'll understand. she loves us. she'll be ok. and so here i am, forty-eight hours later, wondering why it's ok to shit on someone you say you love in your own attempts at happiness. why, because that person loves you, you can assume that all will be forgiven out of love and the mutual human goal of attaining such happinesses. i'm not ok. i don't understand. and i feel as though i should. but now, through an act i did not create, nor would have chosen, i have lost something -- not necessarily a complete part, but a fraction of what i thought was a whole, honest, unconditional belief. i thought people meant the things they said. and the things for which they stood. perhaps, because i do mean the things i say, because i have the integrity of a non-falsified belief system, i am the minority after all. even the salvation army embraces hypocrisy these days. *rae __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Mon Dec 9 15:37:26 2002 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:37:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: gooD thinGs wiLL coMe foR those Who wAit... Message-ID: <20021209153726.68158.qmail@web41003.mail.yahoo.com> but... but I can't wait (sitting around) forever, like Kevin R. says.. I hope I've written the lyrics right. Seems that patience is a very rare virtue... I'd say, a quite overated virtue... what does it help us with? I'd say patience is the other side of the coin: that of defeatism... or a better name given to a real virtue this time... the one of 'lazyness'... Kasimir Malevich said that lazyness was the natural state of humans and he wrote a book about it too! But, the times of sheer genious are long over... the times where people would meet over in little cafés to talk about their passions and the "The Non-Objective World", the worlds of will and ideas, belong to history... walking around, talking with people, reading, looking, observing, this special 'something' is lost... instead, we have mediocrity, and what follows mediocrity, indulgence and tolerance... In music too... how hard is it to make 'good' music in nowadays? not hard at all... all you need is to know your references, i.e., your shite... then you do a bit of 'copy and paste' here and a bit of 'mending and patching' there, and there you go... you're on the cover of NME... And God forbade if you listen to something original!! Its boldness and innovation will scare you away... the bad reviews will eventually have the same effect. Or like Debord said, "represantation replaced life" and "experts' opinions replaced our own senses"... In other words, catch originality before it's recuperated... Main title: Young Soul Rebels Soul sounds and punk from 1977: Parliament: 'P. Funk Wants To Get Funked Up' and X-Ray Spex: 'Identity'. 'Soul Patrol on 107 FM... uncut funk across London town...' A parenthesis... There's a band called MickTravis... they've got a 7" released... titled "Yvonne"... If you feel bold and innovative you should listen to it... But do not if you feel like the crowd in Malevich's exhibition, thinking "Everything which we loved is lost. We are in a desert ... Before us is nothing but a black square on a white background!" ... 'coz there are more than that... what an idea to mix painting with music, eh? it's not the first time and it won't be the last... It's just that I was fed up with all the sulky, lil' twee hymns and sobberings, and I thought well, let's take it out... let it breath for heavens sake... And with my ucas application for 5 fine arts schools in London, I'll wave goodbye - for now - screaming "art schools englighten us ablaze..."... 'Let The Music Play'. The laughter and the dance continue over: END vel "WaR is the last possible creative act", Mick Travis, "IF" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elle_jane1 at xxx.uk Mon Dec 9 18:54:29 2002 From: elle_jane1 at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Ellebelle?=) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 18:54:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: a call to twee arms, or something Message-ID: <20021209185429.13554.qmail@web12905.mail.yahoo.com> i really need to change the order of this. the important bit is at the end. don't bother reading this, just scroll down to *the important bit* well seasogreetingsreatings to you all. i'm in fine and joyous seasonal spirit because i've just glittered and posted my recipient lucky recepient. ho ho ho as a fat man is rumoured to say (did you know that ol' father christmas/santa is really more like the jolly green giant of sweetcorn fame and only wears red thanks to sponsorship by the ever so thoughtful and community minded coca-cola company). anyway, i'm in danger of keeping to one train of thought so i'll change now. change of topic. no, can't do it. still in a good mood and about to distribute end of year awards to the deserving. any nominations out there? personally i'd give the overall greatest achievement in the world (or something) to whoever invented immodium (anti-poo drug, to all you overseas sinistarians) and that wet toilet paper. i don't think i need to say more except i haven't been very well lately (got a sick note from the doctor for the first time in my life). real flu (real, please note) followed by a rather nasty little gastric number. ho ho ho indeed. the sad thing is i was sort of hoping for a little cold so i could have some time off work. i just didn't intend to buy into the ill thing so comprehensively. oh well, it's kicked off my pre-christmas diet rather successfully - managed to lose 6lb in a week. bonus. don't worry, i'll change the topic. actually, i won't. i just need to say sorry for not replying to emails and invites recently. i hope you understand. i just really couldn't leave the bathroom. and my modem lead won't stretch far enough. i did try. honest. real and proper change of topic. well, sort of. i want to know your end of the year award categories and nominations. now, if this is a sinister regular i am undermining and doing in quite the wrong way, i apologise but i don't really care, just nominate. *topic shift to rather an important bit* The january 2003 issue (why do they publish magazines a month before they're dated, it's most confusing) of Q magazine wants help spotting a lyric. it says: "Can you help? "Now listen Johnny, you're like a mother..." Can anyone name the song?" of course we can. we're sinister! I think everyone should email qmail at emap.com instantly to tell them they're looking for Slow Graffiti by our very own B&S. if loads of us email they might realise they need to devote some space to the twee ones. they probably won't. but i'll enjoy knowing they've been deluged with tweeness. well done if you've got this far. keep glittering Elle x have i followed the rules at all? thought not. sorry. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Mon Dec 9 21:50:37 2002 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:50:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Math Rock Message-ID: Dear Sinister, Talk amongst yourselves. At the post office cum newsagent queuing amongst the jazz mags and so on, ones about cars, fitness, computers caravanning cabbage patch kids etc, with other pensioners, past birthday cards of all types, Christmas cards, anniversaries, weddings, funerals, christenings etc of all kinds all stacked together next to stationery, pens pencils rulers of all sorts etc and postcards, you can actually buy postcards of tower blocks there down the whole length of the shop we stretched from when I got in to when I got out. Behind me a couple of women were having a conversation in a language I couldn�t identify. Shrug. The British like to queue, natch. Cashier number five please served me, with his whole folder full of stamps of all prices and stickers of all kinds and colours. Like caged animals they are, post office workers. Imagine it. Just on the way out she there, uppity, menopause + Christmas = irritability I guess. Meniscus. She says haughtily �I need you to guarantee this will be delivered by tomorrow.� Exhibit A sez, and I was well within earshot �Madam, nothing in this life can ever be guaranteed.� Just like that. Go team! Score one! I could�ve kissed him through the cut glass (of her accent, you know), she was you know, hamming it up as it were, I reckon this newsagentcy slash postoffice not be the most salubrious of settings, but we all have to use them don�t we? I guess that�s the problem. Anyway he, the PO worker, the employee saw straight through it and w/ deftness not usually associated with someone who sits down all day batted her away, knocked her down a peg or two to back somewhere between envelopes and, as the sign said �snax�. I didn�t stay to see how it finished, couldn�t have been as good as that bit anyway, she either, uh, concedes or does the whole �fetch the manager� thing and the moment of folly suddenly yields disaster. But they happen all the time, these little urban battles. Um, like years ago (though this isn�t exactly proof they happen �all the time� izzit? But here�s an example that features me anyway) I used to get the bus with my friend Robert, it took us about halfway to school and about halfway along that journey sometimes another friend, Naz, would get on. Nice. Great. Every now and again instead of the usual chunky single-deckers we�d get one of those older style buses which�re a bit smaller and have leather seats and haven�t suspension. Well one day one of those older buses came along and me and Rob sat down near the front then, as I say these buses are a bit smaller you know, so by the time we reach Naz�s stop it�s pretty crowded and there are people standing. Now technically I reckon that the seat we�re on can maybe sit three smallish people and hey, this was only year eight (I guess) so we�re pretty small so we budge up and Naz sits between us. Rock and Roll. Only it�s not cos this guy, standing just in front of us now pipes up and starts having a go at the three of us, but specially me and Rob cos why didn�t we make room earlier on? There are plenty of people standing? You kids pay reduced fare, not like us. He motions to some poor woman for whom the already probably pretty awful trip to work on the bus in the cold has just become more hassle � why didn�t we let her sit down, huh? Being only, what, twelve, thirteen? At the time we weren�t really in the business of Now see here�s or Just a moment�s which would�ve maybe stood us in good stead against this bloke who I, I�ll describe him shall I? I can because, well I was going to save this up for the end, but there�s not really much to spoil, see we saw him on the buses a couple of times after the event I�m on about and then after a while we used to see him just walking up the road instead, so perhaps his money worries were really really real � but I saw him as recently as last summer trudging up the road, and for all I know he still is, knackered jeans, you know how the fashion is now to have pre-worn jeans, you know what those look like right? Well. Actual jeans that have been really worn, worn from work and too much wear, cut on the job, as it were, not fashionably slashed, those don�t really look any good. And one of those awful market fleeces, haggard face, nondescript and one of those shapeless black hats w/ BCFC embroidered on the front. We didn�t dare stand up to him or even defend ourselves that day, so he sort of won but, as I say, a hollow victory � not in a �who�s laughing now?� sort of way but no one really gave a shit except for him, obviously, we even had a good laugh about it once we got to our stop. That�s what I mean though. The cut and thrust. I hated that bus though. The number fourteen. Me and my brother even changed our route to school because we both grew to despise it so much. Though I think by the end I hated the new route even more. So then on the way home I thought about how someone could write a play set in a post office queue, stop me if it�s been done, but I think that�d work. It could be a new Godot sort of thing. Most such battles are smaller though, not even big enough to be verbal, they exist just in a glance, or an awkward step round someone who shouldn�t really be standing so close to that lamppost on such a thin strip of pavement, but occasionally even something like that will flare up and, ok, we�ll probably say that it�s just displaced anger, worries about something else manifesting themselves in this seemingly innocent situation. Ok. Here�s another little clash though involving yours truly. At school this time, a few years ago in art class we were learning a bit about colour theory, complimentary colours and colour wheels and all that jazz, anyway as a bit of an aside our teacher at the time who was a gaunt blonde Ms quote �I am married *actually*, but I still use Ms.� Ha. Anyway she went off on a minor diatribe about how actually the colour that we call purple isn�t *actually* (actually ws her favourite word and she used it all the time) purple but is actually *mauve* and actually the real colour that is actually purple actually is more of a reddish colour. Well semantics here which in my then, as now, pretentio-precocity up shoots my hand and well actually Ms if everyone sez that a certain colour is purple, i.e. if we all call a colour purple then that colour *Is* purple � English ain�t a dead language, it�s defined by popular usage not by dictionaries or whatever. Purple is purple. I say it, everyone says it, it is so. Well actually no, actually I was wrong cos in the *art* world, you know� So yeah, I won that one, sort of. I think maybe I was just bitter though after she caught me chewing gum in the first year and made me spit it out into the bin in front of everyone. Even Stevens. �But what about the child?� �There is no child. There never was.� (aghast) �You mean?!� �I�m afraid so.� Something that�s been recently broached by various members of the upper echelons of Sinister, the cogniscenti, you might say the intelligentsia, the hamster dance, is how to get, er, replies when you post, how to make it so that when you open your email there are some twenty new messages and for them not to all be from seedy �erotica� websites advertising their lurid wares. No. For someone on Sinister to have been so touched or inspired or even outraged at what you�ve written that they felt the need to write back. Simple answer then, I spose is to write a) touching b) inspiring c) outrageous posts. Or. Actually, thinking about it, I hardly ever actually *reply* to anyone�s posts. Fairly often I�ll think �that was a really good post� or words to that effect, y�know, but I don�t really think that sending an email just saying �that was a really good post� is all that productive. Though, I�d be happy to receive them myself � obviously I�d prefer some well thought out commentary (ha) or someone answering a question I�d posed or whatever, but simple praise is always welcome with me too, and I don�t imagine many of you being all that different in that department. But maybe a lot of you are also a bit like me, that is a bit reluctant in the replying department unless you�ve got something substantial to say. My suggestion is this, and if you like you can tie it to celebration of xmas, so that, as a gesture of goodwill to all people everyone should reply to at least one Sinister post this week, even if it�s just to say that you thought it was good. Bonus bonus bonus round too � if it works also more people will post. So everyone�s a winner. Baby, that�s the truth. Luv, - Kieran p.s. To those I *do* owe emails to, they are forthcoming - your text has been copied onto disk and I shall now go up and write some replies - I can't write properly down here, it's too public, you know. So if not later tonight then tomorrow. Promise. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BBaron at xxx.edu Mon Dec 9 23:59:57 2002 From: BBaron at xxx.edu (Bradley Baron) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 17:59:57 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Writing For You Message-ID: <5F04314452849C4A81CAEE52BC635BD6488F29@mary.luthersem.edu> Dear Sinister: I'd like to thank everyone who's written me re: an earlier question I had re: picnics. I'd also like to thank everyone who's read some of my work, I've enjoyed our discussions a great deal. If anyone has any stories or picnic memories from May-June of 2000 in Europe, please email me if you would like to share. -BBaron http://www.bradbaron.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Tue Dec 10 14:14:15 2002 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:14:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: MORE GIFT EXCHANGE NEWS Message-ID: I return from my weekend of drunken debauchery (which involved dressing up in an Enid from Ghostworld cat mask, gaining odd bruises in odd places and losing my phone in the back of a taxi) to bring you yet another CHRISTMAS GIFT EXCHANGE public announcement. Laura's email is playing her up something rotten, and some assignments have not been getting through to people. Everyone should have got an email telling them the address of the person/people they are sending to. If you haven't received an email from Laura with this information in it, please email her AND me, then we will get it all sorted out for you. This may mean people get their gifts a little late but if you complain, we will kill you. I do hope everyone who can will be coming to How Does It Feel next Thursday to watch SM spin some discs. First one to request the Birdie Song gets.... ostracized. I am still over the moon about the return of the poetry parrot. Pickle Prince, what on earth is he up to? Much Love Madeleine xxxx _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jk151 at xxx.uk Tue Dec 10 14:52:24 2002 From: jk151 at xxx.uk (Jennifer Knutsson) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:52:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: as wise as an owl; possibly two owls Message-ID: <000101c2a05b$c431c7a0$c1842090@csrv.ad.york.ac.uk> Well hello These past couple of weeks have been a bit funny (like rough not just amusing), so I decided to think of things that have made me smile recently, as a distraction. When I went over it in my head, there is a lot of fab stuff going on if you pay attention. Firstly, Velocity Farewell included some Dexy's lyrics in her post yesterday, from a song that I love. I ended up with it stuck in my head all day, but in a good way. My 5 year old cousin read me a story for the first time at the weekend. It was Little Miss Wise. She had some trouble with some of the words but essentially it was her doing the reading. Its unbelievable, 3 months ago she could hardly recognise her own name and now she can read books. The geese that wander around campus are still making me smile. They sometimes walk in formation, like they are practising for when they fly in those big pointy arrows or something. I wonder how they decide who goes at the front? I suppose the biggest, toughest goose does it, although it would be nice if they took turns. I saw a minor celebrity whilst out shopping the other day. Well, not really a celebrity, just someone from the summer's Big Brother, but I am frighteningly obsessed with Heat magazine and so this was quite a big deal for me. (I won't go into details as no-one outside Britain will know who I mean... That's not even the point) Also, that very same day, I found a record that I had been wanting for 4 years. S.M.D.U by Brock Landars... A bootleg of prodigys smack my bitch up and song 2 by blur. I was just rooting through the bargain bin and there it was, on single and priced at just 49p! Its not a collectors item or anything, I just liked the song and never managed to find it. Its been so long, I couldn’t even remember what it sounded like, only that I liked it. And the good news is, I do still like it. I worried, you see, when I got home. You know how it is when you remember something as being brilliant, and then when you finally see/hear/smell it again its not quite as good as it was in your head? But I still like it. But possibly the most sure-fire way to make me smile at the moment are the signs I've spotted in York. Yesterday, I saw an official road-sign directing you to "Local shops", and another telling you not to let your dog walk on the city walls, as well as last weeks "Pedestrians! Dead slow" which I still don't quite understand. But I'm sure it is meant to be helpful. I'm not really sure if any of this is going to make anyone else smile but maybe if you are feeling a bit down you could look out for similar stuff in your life? Everyone knows, happiness is to be found at the bottom of the bargain bin. Jen xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Tue Dec 10 13:50:45 2002 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:50:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: X0 Message-ID: Dear Sinister, I write now as one compelled to do so - not by inspiration or anything equally crude or vulgar, but more by a sense of internal guilt which is probably more proof of my neurosis than anything to actually be guilty about, but nonetheless. It�s two twenty in the morning (why do I say that with some semblance of pride, as if me writing now is proof of my mettle or something) and tiredness plus a slight head cold has melded everything together into a kind of sensory miasma, so I hope you�ll excuse any (or more than usual) ramblings and non-sequiturs. But what, I hear yon reader gasp, has so drawn me from my bed well past the witching hour? Well. I was going over it in my mind and I thought that in the little story I told about being on the bus a few years ago I made the man who had a go at me and my mates at the time to be a bit of a villain of the piece, which wasn�t quite my intention. See, I sympathise, I deeply sympathise with his feelings really. I know how aggravating getting the bus can be, how pointlessly aggravating too. It kind of got me down last year especially, all the little annoyances there on offer every day so that sometimes you so did want to just shout at someone, just vent. But at the same time you�re critically aware of the pettiness, the insignificance of those annoyances, you know that they�ll be forgotten once you reach wherever it is you�re going � perhaps only to be replaced with a new set of niggling irritations, but still. I was aware of it at the time, and aware of the futility of what he was saying because, like I said before, nobody really cared at all. In fact this man, trying to make a scene, to gain some support even was just another annoyance, another thing in the way slowing us down. Oh do shut up etc. So I sort of felt for him even then because it was a lose/lose situation anyway, though maybe he felt a bit better afterwards for having said something. Yeah, buses. It was always � why don�t you move into the shelter, if we�re all inside then maybe it�ll generate a bit of warmth and oh god it�s fucking packed again and ok I was going to sit there but and then no don�t stand there right in front of me, no don�t let anyone else on driver, I wont be able to get off and then sorry excuse me sorry sorry scuse me, thanks. And how run down it all seemed, the ugliness of everywhere � some days you could�ve written your name in the filth on the windows, or hilariously daubed �clean me� with soon blackened fingertips, could�ve made a game of avoiding the globules of thick sputle around the shelters. And shivering at bus stops amongst the drab clothed, hard set habitual bus riders. Never any *attractive* people. I know that�s an odd thing to have wanted, since I�m hardly that myself and am now vaguely irritated by glaecit, pristine, vacant clothes horses at every turn, but better, I guess, to sit next to them, to be surrounded by them than by the eternally nondescript, plain, the bland. Unfair I know. Unfair. But I do sympathise, I can imagine myself thinking just as he must�ve �why didn�t those fucking kids give up that seat to someone else� and ok it was pretty low and cheap to act on that impulse and try to make a show of it, but we all have our off moments don�t we? There. I feel a bit better now. I wont send this till tomorrow though. Bit late now. Well. Ok. As Henry Miller sez: �I have made a silent compact with myself not to change a line of what I write. I am not interested in perfecting my thoughts, nor my actions.� Right on. Bis bald. - Kieran _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From emme_lina at xxx.com Tue Dec 10 21:32:10 2002 From: emme_lina at xxx.com (Emilie Aune) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:32:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: so down... Message-ID: Dear Sinister, I´ve been a member since a couple of months ago but this is the first time i write something......don´t know why I haven´t written before.....anyway, know it feels like i don´t have anyone i really can talk because noone really understands me and nobody cares (ok my mother), but it feels like none of my friends understands me and i don´t really want to tell everything because it´s so f***ing hard to talk about feelings....i think it´s embarrassing and so because i´m let down again and again and i feel like a big mistake. Ok, it´s a guy....we´ve known each other for over a year and i´ve been in love with him all the time. We were going out for a couple of months now this automn but it turned out bad for me....he left me and i miss him so much....it really aches inside and today i´m so down......this is one of those really bad days. Yesterday was ok, but today it´s bad. Some days are better and you feel really strong and think that you can go on without him (he was a pig anyway and doesn´t deservs you)......but then the next day you feel so weak and miss him so much. I don´t know what to do....i´m just waiting for time to pass so i can forget him....because everyone says that you will forget him after a while....time goes by and you will forget him.....but it feels like time just passes by and my feelings don´t change a bit....they just go stronger and i long to see him....so how long must i wait? I just want him to come back to me....even though he has treated me really bad....cause i can´t go on without him. I want.....i want so much that i can´t have.....it´s like to wish impossible things....to wish impossible things......the only thing i can put my trust into now are these great bands in the world....like b&s, cure, a couple of swedish bands etc....who sing about those feelings i have inside.....then i feel a little bit better because i´m not alone in the world to feel this down..... Anyway, i just felt for writing a little.....and actually it feels a little bit better....a little bit.......i should try to get some sleep now (after watching the telly for a while) because i have to go to work again tomorrow..... Thank´s for reading this....if you came that far.... / love em from sweden _________________________________________________________________ Bli förälskad på MSN Dejting http://www.msn.se/dejting/default.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From charismarisa at xxx.com Wed Dec 11 01:06:49 2002 From: charismarisa at xxx.com (marisa stroud) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:06:49 -0500 Subject: Sinister: birdies and geeses and buses *och my* Message-ID: (please excuse me, I'm writing an essay on Pope's 'Rape of the Lock') *Canto I* I would like to apologise to one of the sinister gentleman with whom I was exchanging messages with earlier this fall...I seem to have lost his emails in the dense mists of time. But it was thinking about him, and how I should reply to his last email (although, despite my best efforts, I was unable to find it) that made me remember this. He said he found Glasgow cold and bleak. Didn�t fancy it much. I wanted to tell him, yes it is cold, and the endless concrete and harsh Weegie accents can make it seem unfriendly. *(apologies to all Glaswegians: I know you�re a lovely friendly people. But the weegie ned accent is in the top five most grating of all accents of the entire world, and you all know it)* But sometime in spring, when the days are starting to last well into the night and the mornings can�t wait till morning, you may find yourself sitting up in your flat all on your own, trying to write an essay due the next afternoon for which you�ve not read the books when all of a sudden you notice that the sky is lightening and the trees planted inside your flat complex�s yard are full of birds who think they have to cheer the sun along in order to make it rise. * ink polaroid * I am wearing the black stretch Adidas pants that I bought to wear to the gym (but who have only seen the inside of my bedroom as I relax with a book) and the big red Queen�s University (Canada) hoodie that I wear to invoke studious karma. I heard the birds calling to each other in the trees, shut off the standing lamp beside my coffee table/desk, and climbed up onto the wide windowsill. Opening the me-sized screenless window as wide as I can, I perch sideways on the edge of the sill, breathe in the smell of new leaves and listen to the birds screaming in the trees. (Incidentally, I might love that Arab Strap song just because it invokes this memory) I�ve never told anyone about this memory, for no particular reason. But whenever I think back on my time in Glasgow, being a student at the uni there and living in a real live, genuine British flat, that morning always sticks out in my mind. I�m the only one I ever caught sitting on the windowsill, enjoying the sound of the wind in the trees and loving the dear green place. It belongs just to me, and to a really good time in my life. I miss the days where everything was possible and nothing was urgent. I miss Glasgow. Here all the windows have screens, and the streets smell like gasoline. The birds don�t scream when they�ve all flown south. Don�t worry, Jen, the geese do take turns being at the head of the triangle when they all fly south. The formation is designed to reduce wind resistance, helping them use as little energy as possible during their long flights sough. The further back you are in the formation, the less energy you have to use to stay aloft. When the head goose gets tired, s/he falls back to the end of the triangle, and another goose takes over. The lesson here? Geese are bloody Commies! (go with it) That�s the kind of thing you learn when you live in the Land of the Canada Goose. They also poop everywhere and are slightly menacing. So I don�t mind that we only have them for six months of the year. *Canto II* I was thinking about Kieran�s post (and his post-post post) about the bus. I lived within walking distance to my school until I got to high school. There were two, then three, then four of us in my neighbourhood who went to the same school, so we got rides in the morning from parents. We usually made our own way home via public transportation, which gave us a taste for freedom and independence. We began having adventures on the bus, and took it lots of places (until we started to get our drivers licenses and wouldn�t deign to go anywhere without a point-to-point chauffeur). I remember waiting at the bus stop, idly watching the traffic and looking for the noisy giant beetle to come trundling along the right lane of traffic. People in their cars would always gawk at us in the bus shelter, as if we were a particular species of bus-people not often seen outside of zoos or travelling freak shows. I think we overestimate our untouchability when we�re in cars: we think we�re safe and cozy and inside, but we�re separated from the outside world only by metal and tires and plush seats. True, there aren�t many beautiful people on buses, but as I watched the cars go by I didn�t see many beautiful people in them, either. They must hide somewhere else altogether. Jets, maybe. Or galleons. Or maybe they were the exclusive recipients of those HoverCars we were all promised by the year 2000. Bastards. (If anyone ever gets a HoverCar, I�ll give them my set of B&S playing cards for a ride in it. Wait...they were 30 Canadian dollars...let me think about that one...) *Canto III* I sent out my Sinister Christmas Presents yesterday! I feel a bit gauche cause I didn't have any glitter, but I made sure to use two gluesticks in cut-and-paste efforts to make up for it. Hope it will suffice, and I promise to invest in sparkly things for next year. (Was I the only one to get funny looks for making presents for strangers on a emailing list?) I like giving presents to people I don't know cause if they don't like them, they can pass them on without worrying if I'll be offended. If someone didn't like the present I gave them, I'd rather they gave it away to someone who'd appreciate it instead of letting junk clutter up their house. *do I sense an onslaught of donations to someboysjumpers?* I think I should stop now. Merry Christmas Shopping, everyone. marisa. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james.thorniley at xxx.com Wed Dec 11 23:34:43 2002 From: james.thorniley at xxx.com (James Thorniley) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:34:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: All I want for Christmas is Chu Message-ID: <000001c2a16d$e1e391d0$c1842090@csrv.ad.york.ac.uk> Dear Santa, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that I have been a very good boy this year. Remarkably good in fact. Some would say that no boy has ever been quite as good in a single year before. I have done many good things, like I have been to almost all lectures and done my work. I have read about how I am a bad man in the Guardian a few times, and felt better about myself for doing it. I went to an anti-war demonstration and pretended to be a hippy for a day, but I have also read some editions of "The Mail" and found out, among other things, how much worse Cherie Blair is than me. I have not eaten too much cake, but I do still like it. In light of all this, I wonder if you could arrange for me to receive the following items: - A photograph of Photo Jenny - Tigermilk(ing) - Bowling and Drinking - A cigarette and a caravanette in Hull - Services that I may reasonably require - Bowling and Drinking - Girl - A spoon and a decent book - Bowling and Drinking - A special deal on renting from the man at rediffusion - A documentary on radio 4 - Bowling and Drinking Please also Santa, I would love it if you could perhaps organise some Sinister Bowling and Drinking, I do love it so. I would organise it myself but it might go very wrong. Thankyou Mr Claus. James +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rabidpenguin at xxx.com Thu Dec 12 07:44:00 2002 From: rabidpenguin at xxx.com (s. lord) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 01:44:00 -0600 Subject: Sinister: sleepwalking and dirty dreams Message-ID: i have been listening to incredable amounts of INTERPOL lately - right now i am stuck on the last song on the cd - which would be - Leif Erikson - the words and the music completely fit the entire mood that i am in right now - his voice is so thick and hollow sounding - it sounds like it is eminating from this deep well of dispair - large and looming over every failed relationship and torrid romance - i am so in love with this record - i listened to it all day yesterday - sometimes i will listen to music for an incessent amount of time and then i will get tired of it for a bit - i bought this album in september and i have yet to get tired of it - listening to it about two times a day - like i used to do with my belle and sebastian records - but those aren't moody enough for me right now - i am in the throws of a depression and i need something that speaks my moods - and turn on the bright lights does - things around my house have been a bit confusing as of late - i am in the midst of a personal struggle with my id and superego - between my wants and know what i needs - it is tiring - at this time in the game i am really not sure what i want to do - should i remain the same - or should i go out and take a chance on the new boy - perhaps things will work out him and i will have all my problems solved - but that would be too easy i think - when would the other shoe drop? - oh well i guess - tomorrow is a new day to think of this - i'm going to bed - i will sleep on it and hopefully a dream will point me in the right direction - thanks for listening everyone - hope everyones holiday season is off to a good start - -love to you all -s.s.lord ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ what we place most hopes upon generally proves most fatal. - vicar of wakefeild _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Thu Dec 12 11:36:56 2002 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:36:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: calling all designers ... Message-ID: <001001c2a1d2$f1e84390$0300a8c0@katrina> hello, if there are any graphic designers or computer artists out there who may be interested in doing some work for us, please email me at shop at banchory.net with "designers" in the subject line so i can contact you with more details - thank you! cheers, katrina. banchory / belle & sebastian press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6ld scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com Thu Dec 12 13:16:56 2002 From: pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com (hannah brown) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:16:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: "cigarrettes, icecream......" Message-ID: i was on my way to college as usual yesterday. It was cold and i was avoiding the usual hubub of angry people and crossing the many roads i have to cross to get to my destination. I came to a wide road and i looked left, looked right and saw that everything was clear so i crossed. Just as i came near the to the curb this idoit screeched right up to my legs. In the space of about a second i was leaning on the boot of his car. God only knows how he managed to break so quickly but if he was any slower i would have gone hurtling in the air. I turned round and all i could manage to do was loosly wave my wooly mittened hand at him and shout " you fucking idiot, you fucking idiot". He shrugged his shoulders a bit and screeched off again. I carried on walking and realised my patheticness, then fantasised about smashing his window and grabbing his grubby neck and shaking him up. Then i cried a bit coz i was wearing stupid mittens and a duffle coat which is hardly likely to scare a three year old let alone a boy racer. On the way back from college (now carrying 4 big sketch books and an A1 folder) i watched the behaviour of the people at my bus stop. Most people had adopted the same vacant stare like they had all been zapped with the same kind of electric prod, i looked in my reflection and saw that same stare on my own face. My bus came and i got shoved about, recieving the odd "TUT" for having a very inconvienient sized folder with me. I then fantasised that all the people on the bus ( bar me and the bus driver) got rounded up on a big ferry where they would be transported to a large island far far away, i dreamt of waving them all goodbye and laughing to myself. Today i went to college again. I bought two cups of tea from the bar and was served by a sweet fair haired chap with soft skin and a friendly smile. I then fantasised about moving to Edinborough and eating tangerines by the fire. fanasies, it's a dangerous way to have fun hannah b _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From anakin_sky at xxx.net Thu Dec 12 14:34:57 2002 From: anakin_sky at xxx.net (anakin_sky at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 15:34:57 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: sleepwalking and dirty dreams Message-ID: <24433.1039703697@www45.gmx.net> > i have been listening to incredable amounts of INTERPOL lately - right now > i am stuck on the last song on the cd - which would be - Leif Erikson - > the words and the music completely fit the entire mood that i am in right now > - his voice is so thick and hollow sounding - it sounds like it is eminating > from this deep well of dispair - large and looming over every failed relationship > and torrid romance - i am so in love with this record yeah, it's a wonderful record...i would say it's majestic. so powerful and beautiful. and their gig i went to in october was just incredible, one of these moments where you feel completely overfilled with happiness. it never ceases to amaze me that music can do this to you... erm, yes. someone else on this list (sorry, forgot who it was) was talking about a teacher and belle & sebastian... this morning we talked about music with my spanish teacher and it turned out that he loves them! yay! weird, though, you sit in a spanish class and someone asks the teacher what he's got in his minidisc player right now, and he says belle & sebastian, and you just gasp...hm. nice. he's a very cool guy anyway. talking about b&s, richard's dj-set at the smile birthday in manchester recently was fantastic. this city needs someone like him who doesn't play "indie" stuff you can hear everywhere else. i think. but then i've only been here for 3 months and haven't seen everything yet. although a lot... i'm still looking for a club night with more american indie pop, indie rock, postrock etc....but maybe that's too specialized. or something. whatever. yet another person on this list (hannah?) was talking about all tomorrow's parties...really think i might go this year. i've actually managed to post all my sinister christmas exchange gifts, yay. wonder what i will get... anyway, i wish everyone happy christmas days! anne. -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From puluxxx at xxx.com Thu Dec 12 14:35:04 2002 From: puluxxx at xxx.com (pulu xxx) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 06:35:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: crappy sobby story #2 Message-ID: <20021212143504.72499.qmail@web9806.mail.yahoo.com> i apologize for this in advance.. i don't how to start, but i went google and wrote his (ex again!!) lastname on it, then i saw his little broher's name in it as he had taken part at this GO game happening thing, so i thought i see his picture, but HE the ex was in it too. smiling happily, and the happening thing was in my hometown.. and to this day i've been worrying how he was doing, and apparently he is fine, and i'm still in this bluddy shape. pretending to be over it. i'm just shaking and feel like crying. i just wanted to get confirmation that what happened was right and justified that he was doing so badly that we couldn't be together and he needed time for himself, but i can't help thinking that it was just because of me that i just made him miserable. what if i do that to everyone, what if everyone has to seek psychiatric help after being with me? i never wanted to make him feel so sick, never ever, but i did. and i hate myself for not being able to forget him, and hate myself for whining about it. why can't i just let him go! i hate myself for crying after seeing a picture of him. i was just searching info about this exam i'm about to have in couple of hours, it's about philosophy and science and i can't go to the exam, not after this, cos i'm about to start crying more and it's easy to hide behind this computer, and i don't have enough hankerchiefs to blow my bluddy nose. that fucking picture is in my head and i see him and i don't know whether there was some sort of remark about the photographer (a girl) and him like they'd have something going on. but it's just that he was here in this town and i wish he would've let me known, even if we would've not met, but still. and just lately i've been thinking about the things he said when we really broke up, when he didn't answer my phone calls, he said that too many things disappointed him, and i think i know some of the reasons, but too many; like there'd be immense amount of things that i did wrong or wasn't capable of doing. today i went to this department store to see what kind of after shaves they have, cos i'm buying some for my dad as a christmas present, so they had this 'live jazz' that was his scent. so now i have little bit of it on this piece of paper and i've been smelling it every now and then today, and it maked me feel safer like there'd be something still going on, but now i know there isn't. i'm not going to get even merry christmas from him not even on a text message. i'd love to bang my head on the wall, and i'd love to scream and to cry, and swear loudly, and pull my hair. i thought i was getting over him, i thought i wouldn't feel like this. it'll be a year now in what 10 days.. i'd like to get drunk as well, but then when i've got a hangover everything feels so much worse. all those fucking latin sentences nihil difficil amante or something, he knew all those, and i only knew few of them and he wondered how i knew so little. fuck latin and philosophy, fuck school and bloody universities i'm just so tired of it and this. i look like a mess, running red nose and swollen red eyes. thinking of chocolate chip cookies used to make me feel better, but i just couldn't care less, i just want to smoke and drink, and that exam: 2 hours left, but i just can't do it, i don't even know where to go, where i'd feel better. i can't help wondering whether am i just so self-centered that seeing him smiling made me feel this bad? i feel like throwing up when thinking about that picture of him smiling at the camera. feeling so much better without me. i'm sorry for this and all the swearing. please, don't hate me for whining, and having a crappy self-esteem. i just needed to write. me __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From =?iso-8859-1?Q?marcobraca at xxx.it> Thu Dec 12 16:26:42 2002 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?marcobraca at xxx.it> (=?iso-8859-1?Q?marcobraca at xxx.it>) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:26:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?help?= Message-ID: hi all, i'm looking for Calumn Shearer, a sinister guy from Glasgow. i've lost his mail. can you help me. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From charismarisa at xxx.com Thu Dec 12 22:56:48 2002 From: charismarisa at xxx.com (marisa stroud) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:56:48 -0500 Subject: Sinister: indulgence and information Message-ID: Quick question: does anyone know any tricks to get around the $18 000 tuition fee for international students who want to do a Master's degree at a Scottish university? I mean bursaries, grants, tutoring etc (I already thought of robbing a train, mugging old ladies and selling my body on the street). I want to do a degree at Glasgow next year, but I don't want my grandkids to inherit my debt. Seems like the season to ask Sinister for help. Thanks for your patience. marisa. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Fri Dec 13 11:33:09 2002 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:33:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Jizz is just a modern pork slop Message-ID: Ken's back! Thank fuck for that. (his front's not bad either!) Wow, I can carry on writing in single sentances like this. But I might offend Kieran Devaney, so I won't, because I quite like him, for a start he wrote about post office cum newsagents and jazz mags, and he went to Offbeat Xmas special! Me too! It was indeed a lot of fun. I even got to dance with a dog on wheel. Mmmmm. And sampled the worse veggie burger in the world, ever. -- I haven't been posting lately, guess I've been busy with crap, too, but not the way Ellebelle has been. (to whom I send my sympathies, shit happens, I guess) Speaking of poo, has anyone ever tried to control the shape of their poo? Like, experimenting with various arse muscle contraction patterns? Has anyone ever made a perfectly spherical poo? Rabbits are good at this, those are the cutest things in the world, it's no wonder how rabbits get to hump all day! As the saying goes Dump hard, Hump hard. And also You dump what you eat. Speaking of cute things. Girls in winter clothes = cute. You see one and you just want to give her the biggest hug ever. The other day down the escalator of a tube, I saw this cutest girl ever, wearing a grey overcoat -> Aww Cute. THEN she put on her scarf! *gasp* CUTE! And then came the killer, oh man, she put on her wooly hat! !C!U!T!E!S!T! !T!H!I!N!G! !I!N! !T!H!E! !W!O!R!L!D! !E!V!E!R! Anyway. A long time ago (before I had my shits) Christopher Johnson wrote about how he doesn't like B&S anymore because the band now have a Q&A section and he thinks that they're pansy. And I totally agree, when I first listened to B&S it was like "YEAH MAN! Outside the butchers with a knife on a bike chain, la la la." GET IN! And THEN I asked Stuart Murdoch what it actually meant and apparently one time he was riding his bike and when he went past the butchers and saw the butcher with the big knife he shat himself and fell off his bike. So the bike chain got all tangled up and he had to borrow the knife to untangle the chain, but the chain was too heavy so he failed, and then he cried and so the butcher helped him untangling the bike chain and gave him a porkchop flavoured lolly before sending him off to his merry ways. WHAT A PONCE. I'm definitely going to be listening to their pretty little peel session NEXT WEDNESDAY! So I can LAUGH at his delicate cream puff foppish lily unvirile pussy ways. And ALSO I'm going to the jolly christmas HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE LOVED party next THURSDAY - yer! When Stuart Murdoch will be DJing one day after the Peel Session so I can laugh at how much of a pansy he is to his face. Ken P.S.: My opinion on Sigur Ros: Warjrjjjkeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllla kasjksjjssssssssssss. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk Fri Dec 13 14:50:48 2002 From: MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk (Michael Ashbridge) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:50:48 GMT Subject: Sinister: Mary Hansen Message-ID: <46B1A7297F@Blackstaff.ulst.ac.uk> I don't think it's been mentioned here yet. Possibly some of you haven't heard, and I know there are many fans. Mary Hansen, vocalist/guitarist with Stereolab since 1992, was killed on Wednesday. It's still a little unclear exactly what happened. She was cycling in London. Some reports say a truck was involved. Others, a car. Funeral next week, back in Australia. Links: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/2566949.stm http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=17192 http://www.nme.com/news/103736.htm - M. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rabidpenguin at xxx.com Fri Dec 13 21:15:15 2002 From: rabidpenguin at xxx.com (s. lord) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:15:15 -0600 Subject: Sinister: the same day Message-ID: today has been off to somewhat of a plesant start - first i received a phone call at 1:30 from the new love of my life - just he doesn't know that yet - well maybe he does - i haven't told him though - but it was great to hear his voice again - i recently decided that i should take a chance and go after him - i was toying with the idea of what it would be like with him vs. without him - what if he says no - to many things to think about - but after a night of numerous whiskey sours and good conversation with a friend i decided that i should talk the chance - also received a line from a sinester lad - thanks to you chris for the message - it really reafirmed that i was thinking - so i am taking the chance - life it too short not to really - what do i have to loose - but anyway - i got off track - i talked with him for a little over two hours till about 4 in the morning - realizing that i needed to be upi and constious in about three hours i bid him farewell - and went to bed - in the morning i got up late - got dressed late and was late to the last day of my morning class - i was a little worried that my professor - who talks monotone and reminds me so much of the teacher in farris bueller - would have a short quiz or something heartless - when to my surprise he was actually just putting the room to sleep with readings from a journal no the differnt kinds of sexual deviations - nver before has a person made topics like transvestites and sado masachism seem boring - but he pulled it off with flying colors - i was asleep in ten minutes - but not for too long - i was rudely awakened by the studious girl whom always is sitting next to me who thought that it wa imperative that i stay awake for this class - she whispered to me - girl:this is the last class of the semester for you, show some respect to your professor and pay attention to him. me:how can i stay awake? i feel like mr. rogers is teaching me about sexual deviance. girl:force yourself to. how do you think he feels? he probably knows he is not very interesting. me: whatever, i don't care. - well then she got up set cause she thinks i am not learning anything - called me a 'poop' and left me to sleep - my second class of the day was even better then the snoozefest that preceed it - in that class for our final we have a large paper to write on modern sociological theory - i am still confused about how i am supposed to turn 2 pages of abstract theory given to us into a 14 page paper - but i just thought that i would bullshit my way through it - well once i got to class today - my teacher was already there - and she looked very ill - she had missed all this previous week with some sickness and apparently she still has it - this illness has such forced her to rethink the paper she assigned - she has thus shurnk it by half the size it was supposed to be and has take off one of the requirements - it was the happiest day i have had in a long time - it was hard to conceil my excitment in front of her - she seemed dissappointed and appologized numerous times that she had to cut it short - by the look on everyones faces i don't think we feel too cheated - i hope the rest of my day continues this trend of good deeds! - then perhaps i will have something new to write about instead of this stupid post! - sorry this was boring - much love to you all s.s.lord. ------------------------------------------------------------ what we place most hopes upon generally proves most fatal. - vicar of wakefeild _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mess_up_my_hair at xxx.com Sat Dec 14 12:21:21 2002 From: mess_up_my_hair at xxx.com (. alex .) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 22:21:21 +1000 Subject: Sinister: summer vacation lasts forever Message-ID: Hello Sinister, I am listening to the All Girl Summer Fun Band as I type this - sunny girlie american pop songs, apt for the summery weather that I'm in the midst of here. No cute girls in winter clothes here, I'm afraid. Last night I went to a friend's 18th birthday, a fancy dress party. Failing to find anything "fancy" or "dress" in my wardrobe, I decided to go as a schoolgirl (with regulation knee-length skirt, of course!). Two other girls stole my idea: I wasn't impressed. One boy came as The Phantom, another as a race car driver, some girls as 60s mod girls. There was one boy there who came as a punk circa 1985. It was the most impressive dress-up effort I'd seen, right down to the fingerless studded leather gloves and godawful wig. So I decided to talk to him only to discover his penchant for bad American emo bands like Saves The Day and Alkaline Trio. But even so, that was comparatively better than the musical tastes of the majority of other people at the party. So here I was, drunken and rambling, writing him a list of all these bands he should listen to. Then I asked him the magical question: "Do you like Belle & Sebastian?", to which he answered, "yes, I have 'If You're Feeling Sinister'" :) It made my night. Now I want to try and convert the emo boy to lots of good bands... xox Alex (who is sitting at home on a saturday night and not entirely feeling sorry for herself for a change) ===================================== I took your advice and fixed my radio But I can't find anything that sounds good anymore http://www.geocities.com/veruca_salt_97/ http://darlingalex.diaryland.com/ _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From puluxxx at xxx.com Sat Dec 14 11:50:18 2002 From: puluxxx at xxx.com (pulu xxx) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 03:50:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: i can't think of anything Message-ID: <20021214115018.98501.qmail@web9806.mail.yahoo.com> hello, i felt so stupid after writing that mail on thrusday, cos it was just a photo, he wasn't even with any girl in it. i've just been obsessing about him lately and about boys in general. i thought i was over it, but every night i try to to think about something nice so i've been thinking about being with someone and whether i could be with anyone, whether i'd still have feelings for him. and if someone would say that he loves me or something and whether i could say the same thing to him, and i realised that i can't. so i thought i really have to stop obsessing about finding someone and obsessing about him, cos that takes just so much energy. and my grades are hurting, cos it's difficult to concentrate on school work. but i'm just tired of it though, and i regret that i missed that one exam because of him. i'm generally able to control my emotions, but it's just when i'm alone i tend to freak out about things and make then bigger than what they probably are, in reality. something else now: does anyone here attend strathclyde university? i might be coming there in january, i've been offered a place to study there for the 2nd semester, but i'm not sure whether i should go, and i don't know whether i get a place at the halls of residence. but yesterday i read from nme that the delgados are playing there on january the 28th and i could see them, and i'd like to see them. but the thing that worries me are the courses, especially those tutorials that you have. i was planning to take some courses in history and literature and maybe in politics. so i'd be studying at faculty of arts and science, what are the teachers like there? i'd like to go to necropolis and visit nick drake's grave and sylvia plath's too, and maybe go to isle of skye. i better go now, thanks for listening and caring. me x __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seanghowell at xxx.com Sun Dec 15 18:26:18 2002 From: seanghowell at xxx.com (Sean Howell) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:26:18 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I think it may all be getting sorted Message-ID: Hello there dear Sinister, *Introduction* How have you all been? I hope everyone has been exceptionally well. *the first snowfall of the year* A few nights ago brought the first snowfall of the year, around midnight it started, and lasted until around 4p, the following day. The first snowfall of the year always seems somewhat magical, I suppose the fact that we don't get appreciable snowfall terribly often here in Maryland likely has something to do with that. But either way, the other night ended up being far more that just a cold winter night at my house. I had a long conversation with someone who I've only recently resumed being friends with, and well, that made me very happy about the fact that I had been forgiven. We shared what has been on our mind as of late, and well, it's been essentially the same sort of things...I offered the best advice I could give, which I still fear could have stood to be better. That affair ended at approximately 2:30am, and I promptly decided it was time for me to go out for a walk and a smoke. I had my first smoke on the porch, as I usually do...but well the neighborhood just looked so beautiful, covered with a fresh blanket of crystalline powder, and I decided that it was time for that walk. I walked down the dark streets, the only light being that reflected from the seemingly distant street light's of my neighbors. I've walked that same path hundreds, likely thousands, of times, and never once has it looked quite as it did last night. Never before has it seemed so beautiful. I felt a bit guilty leaving my footprints in the snow, and I secretly hoped that by morning they would be covered up by the still falling snow. So I continued to walk, and I had a couple of smokes, and I realized that things all seemed to feel surprisingly right. I haven't felt more like myself in months. And well, after I realized that, I decided it was time to turn back, and head home to bed. So I made my way back through the snow, and once I got back into the house I nearly fell flat on my face, as well, creepers with snow on the bottom of them on hardwood floors are rather slick, and make for a bloody dangerous combination. As I crawled into bed a couple of minutes later, all the things that had been bothering me had been neatly folded like my shirt, sweater, and trousers on the table beside my bed. The chaos of this past month finally seems behind me. The chaos of crashing my car 3 weeks ago. The chaos of watching 13 years of a friend of mine's life nearly burn to the ground. The chaos of having two boys with bad moustaches try to fight me for no reason whatsoever that same night. The chaos of feeling like a bad person. It had been made sense of for a while. Granted a bit of the magic has worn off by this point, but well, it was still a nice experience. I'm once again in contact with a couple of people, whom I haven't spoken to in a while, and that is helping...thank you both. Friendships are being renewed, we are catching up, and well, that's splendid. *meeting and greeting* Um, I will be in Boston at some point this winter break, staying with some family, and would very much like to meet up with some sinister people while visiting. So any listees who are interested please write me, I'd be quite happy to hear from you! It will obviously be a bit too cold for a picnic or anything like that, but maybe we could go to museums and out to dinner, or something like that? Also, and listees from the MD/DC/PA area, I'd love to hear from you as well, since I'm here year round, and would of course be into doing some hanging out. *a break of the winter variety* I have a scant two days until my semester is officially done for! No more exams, no more exceptionally lengthy papers, no more nights spent in the library, no more walking around the University of Maryland campus and exhausting myself....well, at least until the end of January. The classes I'm registered for next semester seem like they should be fairly interesting though. I'm starting to learn German, Taking a course on the history of modern biology, a British history course, and a computer cartography for archaeology course...fun fun fun eh?? This friday is the annual office holiday party, which should be interesting. Last year my housemate ended up getting kissed by a very drunk co-worker. I'm not sure how good of an idea the combination of my co-workers and an open bar is...most likely, if history is any indication, not a very good one. *I think it's better to give and receive* Hey, why not have your cake and eat it too? I should be getting some extra fun gifts this year, my mum ordered me a lovely set of Belle and Sebastian playing cards, and the ever popular ampersand t-shirt. I'm also exceptionally excited to see what I get as part of the sinister gift exchange. All of my gifts for the exchange have been safely packed up, and shipped off. I'm dearly hoping that all packages will arrive on time. I'm sure they will, but well, I get worried sometimes, and I don't want any list grudges to devlop as a result of the U.S. Postal service. *the end...for now* Well, I think that's enough out of me for now. In the infinite free time brought by winter break expect to hear lots more from this boy in days and weeks to come. Take wonderful care, all of you. Love, Sean _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Mon Dec 16 00:19:22 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 00:19:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: this thursday In-Reply-To: <20021214115018.98501.qmail@web9806.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello! Just a quick note to remind you that this Thursday December 19th is the How Does It Feel To Be Loved? Christmas spectacular. Here are the details: How Does It Feel To Be Loved? is at the Buffalo Bars, underneath Famous Cock Tavern, outside Highbury & Islington tube, London, 9pm-2am, £3 in. Guest DJs are Traceyanne Campbell and Stuart Murdoch. We're pleased to announce that Mark Casarotto, of Tigermilking fame, will be joining us as a regular DJ. The playlist is: The Smiths * The Supremes * The Go-Betweens * Dusty Springfield * Belle & Sebastian * Tammi Terrell * Aztec Camera * The Ronettes * Orange Juice * Beach Boys * The Temptations * Velvet Underground * Felt * The Shangri-Las * Primal Scream * Otis Redding * The Field Mice * The Stone Roses * Dexys Midnight Runners * The Four Tops * Dolly Parton * The Orchids The website, as always, is at http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk - post some requests on the messageboard please! That's about it. See you Thursday! x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Mon Dec 16 04:56:37 2002 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:56:37 +0700 Subject: Sinister: heading for a disaster (& A POSSIBLE PERTH PARTY ON NYE) Message-ID: Topical Welcome Bit seasons greetings, Useless Trivia You Won't Find in Christmas Crackers Did you know that Nick Drake still holds the 100m sprint record at the school he went to (some fancy Marlborough boarding school)? Christmas Presents i saw the Salteens last week and they were fantastic. They are all so cute and damn they are good to dance to. I also sent my Present Exchange gifts out. i hope people enjoy them. Are you allowed to open the presents before Christmas (assuming you get them before Christmas)? Is there some kind of Sinister Christmas exchamge etiquette? Jokes as Bad as the Ones You Get in Christmas Crackers There is lots of talk on the B&S Q&A about the illegal copying and downloading of music isn't there? Personally i don't think there is anything wrong with it, I mean it has been going on for years. All those folks in Southern USA were burning copies of Beatles records for each other way back in the 60's, and the Nazi's were burning books way back before WW2. They were very technologically advancd weren't they? New Year's Eve Party I am thinking of having a New Year's Eve party at my house. It will probably be on December 31. All you lovely Perth listee's are invited, and anyone who is going to be in Perth is more than welcome to attend also. If you think you may be interested in coming please reply so I can decide whether to have it or not. There will be lots of boozing, dancing and nibbling. Possibly in that order... Candy Canes I bought the Merry Christmas from the White Stripes 7 inch yesterday. It is rather funny. The B-side consists of Jack reading a passage about the Three Wise Men from the bible, and then Meg singing Silent Night but forgettting the words. Realisation That I Have Nothing Else to Say and Have Written Some of the Worst Jokes Ever.. i have to buy Christmas presents for my family now. I really should make some things for them too, seeing as how I will probably put more thought into what I gave to people I've never met. Is that bad? Do I need to ask if that is bad? Is this post bad? Do I need to ask if it is bad? Topical Farewell Bit merry christmas and all that, terry _____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From retrosec at xxx.uk Mon Dec 16 21:27:13 2002 From: retrosec at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Retro^Sec?=) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:27:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: nonsense Message-ID: <20021216212713.77626.qmail@web13113.mail.yahoo.com> I'm so sleepy.. Its been a while I think, since a post to sinister came from me. This evening I met with a friend in The Wash. Hes had his hair cut, and its looking pretty good for hat hair. He gave me a christmas present, and I know it will be good - his taste and ability to judge my taste is impecable. Should think so too, after 7 years. The weekend, seems to have disappeared and left behind the glorious remenants of memories, floating round my mind like little floating candles. There is a memory, which was sparked off yesterday, when I heard Velvet Underground playing on the jukebox in the 13th Note. It reminded me of university. Of my first year in halls of residence, and how all the corridors, linking the ziggurat floors together and coasting down like the steps inside a ship, smelt of chicken soup, as all the smells of food combined. It reminded me of the hungover morning after my 19th birthday, when I had drunk champagne for the first time, from a pint glass on an empty stomach, and yes, downed it in one. The memory of crawling around on my hands and knees, opening the door so that visitors wouldn't stand banging on the glass to be let in. And when I looked up, there he was. A man with a black mullet, and eyeliner, in an orange shirt who looked like a beer bellied Richey Manic, and I fancied him. So I offered him some champagne. He smiled at me. Later, my flat mate said he told her he'd never been offered champagne from the bottle by a drunken pretty girl on her hands and knees before. The hangover morning, was sort of beautiful, and quite surreal. Looking out my steamed up window, onto the misty lake, and shivering under my duvet, and lying in bed for hours, gazing at the black and white Brett Anderson poster hung above my bed. The boys used to like that poster. They liked the idea of Brett Anderson watching us while we got it on. They said it was as if he approved. The Winchester Club was marvellous. I haven't listened to my free cee dee yet. I shall though. Soon. I am sleepy. My friend couldn't believe how quiet I was. idles x ===== http://retrosec.blogspot.com/ thoughts __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Tue Dec 17 18:13:49 2002 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:13:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: peelie tomorrow night ... Message-ID: <42f501c2a5f8$37d45550$0300a8c0@katrina> just to remind you all ... to listen to the radio tomorrow night! http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio1.shtml 10pm UK time. cheers, Katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6ld scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Hewitt at xxx.uk Thu Dec 19 16:51:35 2002 From: S.Hewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:51:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: ...and a partridge in a pear tree, A-HA Message-ID: Ello babies I am finishing work in 45 mins for two and a bit weeks and as I have finished everything vital I thought I'd write you a wobs message rather than just sitting and picking my nose (although I might do a bit of that too). CAROLLING (ie content, lumme) Good to see the high level of shambolic-ness (shambolicity?) perfected by b&s over the years shows no sign of abating. Mind you 12 days of xmas is *always* shambolic unless performed by ninja-skill level choirs, due to: A: forgetting what number you're at B: everyone learning different orders for 9, 10, 11 and 12 depending on which carol book your school had C: everyone getting faster and fasterandfaster as the song progresses TOSS So I was watching sky sports t'other week and they had coverage of the BOWLING WORLD CUP from riga in that latvia and it was held at the TOSS bowling centre, which made me think of ken (I wonder if rowans is a rude word in latvian...) DANCING We're going out dancing tonite innit, and as I'm going to the pub to meet several dark and shady characters from pre-history first (ie as soon as I leave work (we're going to ye olde chesire cheese (fleet street) if anyone wants to pop along)) I should be well up for dancing as soon as I reach howdoesitfeeltobeloved. NB please do not let me throw up over stuart (or anyone else for that matter...) FLAT Not saying anything specific like, but has IC been as missed as much as during the first verse of OCOCE last nite??? MISSED? Don't forget that if you didn't catch the peel show last nite (or even if you did), you can listen to it for the next week via the wonders of bbc online. It's probably here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio1_aod.shtml?peel_wed you'll need realplayer and to not work where I do as for some reason I can get a squillion radio stations but the beeb don't work, ho hum. LEMONY There was a documentary thing about LEMONY SNICKET on BBC4 the other nite which was quite fun and I thought of lllllllew. Also I have bought my sister (age 26) the first book for wobs so I might read it also to see what the fuss is abt (NB my sister does teach small children so she has to keep up with the scene, that's her excuse anyway ;)) WOBS Ah, the joys of predictive txt... 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Thu Dec 19 23:02:41 2002 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:02:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I told the stars above about the one I love. Message-ID: Hello Sinister. I was only 14 when the last ever Mark & Lard Graveyard Shift was broadcast, but I'd been into it for a couple of years, and was sad to see it go. They finished the show with Tindersticks' "Tiny Tears" (a great record - if you haven't already got it, go get it), shivers ran down my spine, and then they were gone. Tonight, the legendary Evening Session went the same way. Although I hadn't really listened to it for a couple of years, I thought I'd better listen to the last ever one - a bit like going to the funeral of a distant relative with whom you've lost touch - because once upon a time I adored that show. Like a doddery old relative, the ES had, for my money at least, gone a bit senile in the last couple of years, obsessed with any band that began with "The", but when I came to pay my respects tonight, it was fucking wonderful. Everything that the ES has ever got me into was there, from Britpop to hip hop; Lamacq ended the show with Supergrass' Alright (another great record), shivers ran down my spine, and then he was gone. So yeah. All hail the ES - I'm sure I'm not the only person on this list who's sad to see it go. Having (albeit indirectly) had a go at bands that begin with "The", I must say that I am quite taken by the Libertines' single. I haven't a clue what it's called, but I've heard it five or six times now and it's great. It just needs a big brass section, and then it'd really be one of the great Britpop singles. Anyway... I forgot all about B&S on Peel last night, which was really quite annoying. I only managed to tune into the last bit of Get Me Away From Here, and then I caught the new Christmas tune and the frankly brilliant Twelve Days of Christmas. Does anybody have a copy they could share? Aside from the final ES, I've been listening to The Divine Comedy all day, in particular "A Short Album About Love". I'm currently in that all-too-common predicament of unrequited love - in fact it's a crush I've had for best part of a year - and "Everybody Knows (Except You)" has been remarkably theraputic. It's the nearest thing to how I actually feel. love, Asm.x P.S. Whatever Happened to EE Fumblings? Is he still with us? ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy" - Mandy Cohen _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayeckard at xxx.com Thu Dec 19 20:48:25 2002 From: jayeckard at xxx.com (Jay Eckard) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:48:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Not quite begging, not quite demanding Message-ID: Brass tacks, folks, brass tacks: The Centre of Our Collective Attention was on John Peel yesterday. Who out there recorded it? And more importantly, what do I have to do to get a copy*? I'm good at reciprocation. l'Autre Jay *We all know they don't mind recording/sharing live stuff. -- "The Posby falls into a Trance In which it does a little Dance." Edward Gorey _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Thu Dec 19 21:41:02 2002 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:41:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Silent Night Message-ID: <20021219214102.74420.qmail@web40406.mail.yahoo.com> - It's quiet out there. - Yes... too quiet. It's not quiet when Bob Zimmerman launches into 'Tonight I'll Be Staying Here With You' on the new ROLLING THUNDER 1975 LP which has cleverly been released, not even rereleased. I think that the ROLLING THUNDER 1975 bit shows good taste on the part of the editors. Dylan rejigs all his tracks, making some of them into jigs. Certain others are reels, or rather, two reelers. They're also seven-handers, and three-card brags. When the game finally ended up, they had to get Christopher Ricks to analyze the grammar. You could say it was 70s DYLAN and you wouldn't be far wrong. He also plays 'It Ain't Me Babe' as reggae, 'Hard Rain' as 'Highway 61', and 'It's All Over Now, Baby Blue' forgetfully. 'Hurricane' sounds exactly like the LP version, which is disconcerting in the context of dis concert. I receieved my 70s DYLAN package in a shady environment strewn with beer cans and drunken sinister kids who would later *outrageously* get *kicked out* of the joint, from a benefactor who will remain analogous. He also tells me that when BLOOD ON THE TRACKS came out, the girls of Durham cried in public at the lyrics. That's something to visualize. On an earlier occasion, he gave me THE RISE AND FALL OF EDNA WELTHORPE AND THE ZIGGURATS FROM M.A.R.R.S. It starts with the line 'Pushing thru [sic] the market square'. For a while I thought it might be a Stevenage concept album. But I got even more excited when I heard the first chord of Neko Case's BLACKLISTED. This LP has no right to be good - it ought to be acoustic rants harshly sung. But actually it's astonishingly high quality, a bolt from the blue. The first chord (G) sounds like the Pines, cos G is easy. Then it turns into a Gm, which is harder to do things with, and sounds like, say, a back-up guitarist from a recent Dylan tour laying down lead for 'John Brown'. The quality of the acoustics, close-up and raw, sound like very recent Lloyd Cole. This is the first 5-10 seconds! You can see why it excited me. Then she sings some words in a rather keening way, and gets away with things that ought to be clich�s. She even makes the phrase 'American dreams' sound meaningful and moving. I'm not kidding. In foreign news, my editor has gone to audition Ralph Bellamy in Tucson. It's for a non-speaking part. They are feasting with panthers, and possibly milking orang-utans. If they don't post some more exciting updates somewhere, I'll have to make some up and post them myself. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From woolything at xxx.com Fri Dec 20 00:46:10 2002 From: woolything at xxx.com (Alasdair Cook) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 00:46:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: You'll get all my applause, simply because Message-ID: The moon slides across a giant bow-tie. If you squint you can see snow, then you look back to wonder if it was ever there at all. What would Irving Berlin say (I poured my heart into you, son)? Hi there. I hope you are all well. We're waiting for that day again, we love the songs and we love the drinking and we love the weather, sometimes. You love to hail. We're walking out in silver lines. It's strange and unsettling the way Christmas moves in when your back is turned, since fifteen years ago I wouldn't have eaten seventeen advent calendar chocolates at once, I think. In fact, I know. My calendar is Spiderman, and it says strange, cryptic things behind each window (behind the first: 'This is your last chance'). I don't know WHAT to believe! At work, we are concentrating on giving people nervous breakdowns. It's more fun than actual work, and the prime culprit got a blue silk tie today for his hard graft. I got a zip. Check: zip. Also at work, a man called 'Turner Bone', like a cross between Tyrone and Max Power. I hope I never see the man, for it will only end in disappointment. Always meet your heroes though - they say things like 'I like your jumper'. It was my birthday at the tail end of last month - I got three price stickers, and a host of other items. One of the best; a t-shirt which spouted, two years on, with all the delicious irony of it's conceiver - 'Brand New Friend'. !!. Sometimes, you know, I still think of things that way. Have you ever tried to write a song based around only one major rhyming sound? It's not SO easy. What WOULD he say? (..looking for the tune..). So, holiday season. I should buy some gifts, which is harder than it sounds. It requires E.F.F.O.R.T. What's more, the sales are retracted and Someone, somewhere, catches a(n) ('air')plane. Have a lovely time. Spend more time than you should with your grandparents. Merry Christmas. Off with my glove. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.com Fri Dec 20 01:02:52 2002 From: ian at xxx.com (Ian Connelly) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:02:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Peel in the rain Message-ID: sitting in san francisco this morning, i realized i'd missed the peel session last night. or whenever it was. i can barely balance my dusty checkbook or get to work on time, so it was unlikely that i would make the time conversion and end up listening live. so that's why it's nice that the bbc sees fit to put the shows up online immediately. i've spent practically the whole day listening to it over and over. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/rpms/peel_wed.rpm the cover of 'nothing for christmas' is wonderful. and where did 'step into my office, baby' come from? that's certainly got a lot of innuendo in it, doesn't it? setlist: o come all ye faithful (w/choir) christmas time is here nothing for christmas step into my office jonathan david (stevie/stuart spar over religion, even!) santa claus go straight to the ghetto (chris sings! james brown cover!) photo jenny little town of bethlehem (jam with 'festive' bass & guitar ('oooh, that kills me,' says stuart.)) santa bring my baby back to me (lieber/stoller) if you find yourself caught in love (new song!) the boy with the arab strap o come o come emanuel get me away from here i'm dying i took some time for christmas (new song) 12 days of christmas all in all a hugely wonderful listen, with plenty of heart and humor. ah, now, where's the cd of it? it's raining and hailing and blowing here on the west coast, and this certainly made the day better and gave me hope about piloting the vespa home through the inclement weather. you should all listen, too. stay warm, ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk Fri Dec 20 19:39:27 2002 From: MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk (Michael Ashbridge) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 19:39:27 GMT Subject: Sinister: The Other Place Message-ID: So I wasn't the only one listening to the final Evening Session and feeling like yet another piece of my childhood was being torn from me. Anyway. To all those whose only Christmas wish is for Santa to throw the Maida Vale set at them, you may (courtesy those darlings at the other place) get it here: http://www.buro9.com/bellemp3/B&S%20Peel%20Session,%2018-Dec-2002.zip linked from here: http://www.buro9.com/forum/showthread.php?s=b0b8ddbb4b1fd7287d7ae240bae9fac1&thr eadid=4011&perpage=15&pagenumber=4 It's a very large file (73 MB ZIP containing 16 MP3 files), so use a download manager like Getright if you're on dialup. It's available until the 31st of this month. Muchos grassy-ass, - M. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Fri Dec 20 19:30:39 2002 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:30:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: She's Got The World On A String Message-ID: <20021220193039.7198.qmail@web40401.mail.yahoo.com> It's SWEATER, mon, always SWEATER. As in -- 'Where's your sweater?': prounounced 'sweader'. THE BUTCHER, THE BAKER, THE BANKER, THE CLERK >>> What would Irving Berlin say (I poured my heart into you, son)? I guess he'd say: so *this* is what you do when your songs have dried up: you a) start actually playing them to people and b) use mine. What would Harold Arlen say? That's the question Michael Feinstein has been raising on the radio. I don't know HA too well, but Fitzgerald did do a songbook of his work: come to think of it I have her 'Devil & The Deep Blue Sea'. Correction, it was a *double* song-book. It's funny how she uses the words 'so-and-so', isn't it? CHOCOLATE FIRM >>> I wouldn't have eaten seventeen advent calendar chocolates at once, I think. Even if it was a RANGERS advent calendar? This is not a mere frippery, you know. >>> In fact, I know. Oh, OK. NIL BY WALLET >>> I got a zip. Check: zip. Is this meant to carry the secondary connotation of 'a cheque for zilch'? Or am I... reading too much into it? YET AGAIN THAT WOOLLY THING >>> Always meet your heroes though - they say things like 'I like your jumper'. It's SWEADER, mon, I keep tellin ye. KING COLE >>> 'Brand New Friend'. !! Here's a reciprocal tale: not long ago I was in a bookshop, and in the mid-morning street outside a vehicle passed playing... some brassy 80s noise. I heard it distantly, affectionately, felt it meant something slight to me. Those deep-coded reactions. Then I realized it was 'Lost Weekend'. Another: I heard the same track on the Janice Long show, after midnight. What's going on? As for 'BNF' itself: try the version on LOADED. I think Quine is playing the whammy bar. And eating a, um, MOUND bar in between whams. KICK >>> Have you ever tried to write a song based around only one major rhyming sound? It's not SO easy. What WOULD he say? (..looking for the tune..). Fly- ing too high In the sky With some guy Is my I- dea of nothing to do LURPAK The lad Walton mailed and said he'd heard the last Evening Session. Me, I heard a snippet, tuned away, never realized I was missing history being unmade. Only the lad Walton had that privilege. O, COME Some characters mentioned B&S playing some kind of xmas radio concert. Naturally I didn't hear it, but this actually sounds like a more than half decent idea. POEM I am hoping for a sinister xmas post from la llew aren't you? ICE SKATERS Literary criticism, that's what I really want to get round to. That sentence ended with a preposition, a poor thing. THIS JUST IN Next Friday Jimmy Webb - !! - will be joining Le Feinstein on piano for 'a new song'. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_t_opher at xxx.com Fri Dec 20 18:28:40 2002 From: chris_t_opher at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?chris=5Ft=5Fopher?=) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:28:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: need a subject... In-Reply-To: <200212192049.UAA06000@missprint.org> Message-ID: <20021220182840.4580.qmail@web10904.mail.yahoo.com> sinister, i was going to post about a little article in the guardian a month or so ago because it mentioned our very own peel favourites, b+s. the general gist of it was that david white (i think) had the mp3s of a live show on a site. the band and banchory were happy with it but jeepster wouldnt say either way whether they minded so it was forced down. im not sure there was any moral to the story but it took up a page in the paper and had quotes from neil and things. last night, an american girl id only just met told me "you strike me as a belle and sebastian fan". it came out of the blue, based on nothing other than how i look i guess and i was speechless for a couple of seconds as a result. it scares me that im part of a recognised breed when i was just an odd-looking person not so very long ago. what can we blame most for this... high fidelity, storytelling, teachers or just general popularity? today i partook in my own particular christmas shopping hell. plans to go tuesday, wednesday, even thursday failed so i ended up in the middle of manchester city centre on a friday afternoon. im sure i dont need to tell you what that was like but not even the hundreds of cuties (a friend's word, not mine) on oldham street could cheer me up. but i found plenty of presents - joy div tshirt, airfix model, graphic design book, loads and loads of gift vouchers - so i should just be thankful its over with and i can still sit and type. on the far end of the busy-things scale, the internet goes very dead every christmas. youd have thought people would be stuck indoors for long periods and would have nothing to do but email sinister. but no, everyone disappears into a christmas vortex for a couple of weeks instead - they cant be christmas shopping all that time, can they? i guess at least it means in january people will just delete this and the other 200 unread emails in their inbox and i can pretend it never happened. merry merriment, c. ps. if anyone in manchester wants to try a music project, bedroom-stylee, give me a shout. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Sat Dec 21 22:10:58 2002 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 22:10:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: (my gurl's got) miraculous appeel Message-ID: On BBC Radio there was a John Peel session on which B&S Performed Christmas Carols and various songs, it was pretty good - despite having to listen to some godawful jungle tunes in between sets. I rather liked their rendition of that 12 days of Christmas (HOHO!) song and when they played "Get me away from here, I'm dying" I reminisced the time when I listened to that song (and indeed B&S) for the first time. Speaking of dying, I wasn't that far from it in the past two days from drinking far too heavily, I went to the "How does it feel to be loved" club on Thursday, where "Mr Pansy" himself made an appearance and DJed. Unfortunately by then I was too drunk to laugh at his Pansicity, nor pronounce "How does it feel to be loved" with any kind of Articulatediousness, nor get home without taking a detour to the end of the bus line, and back again oh yeah. I hope everyone who went enjoyed themselves, I did! I was also going to take photos, but see above paragraph for clues as to why I had failed to do so. On BBC TV there is a drama thing that's coming out soon called "Wit" and the adverts for it uses "FREAK" as the background music (The instrumental one that is the first track of Storytelling, as opposed to the ROCK number by Silverchair) It excited me and a hopped a little bit from my chair. Ken P.S.: So, B&S playing card poker night, anyone? When shall we go? P.S.2: I think James Thornily wants to go bowling, anyone? When shall we go? X-box: Answers on an e-mail to me please. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_advancedjmf_3mf +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Sun Dec 22 12:59:16 2002 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 12:59:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: I love your smile Message-ID: <20021222125916.61393.qmail@web10404.mail.yahoo.com> A Sunday morning, a hangover. Both undeserved. My Christmas shopping took in a lot of bookish things this year. Waterstones 3 for 2 offer looked generous, and made me smug until I realised all three books were actually just for me. Thanks anyway, mind. I also now (briefly) own three copies of "The Basic Eight", and I'm in a good mind to keep them, lined up on my shelf in prime viewing position so that when I eventually get Laura Llew into my boudoir I shall render her stupefied. Not that this is a good thing - I wonder if we shall see an Xmas post from la Llew? One of the reasons for this hangover is the inability of the non-sinister British male to approach a public bar and order a shandy. My god, what has the world come to? Do these people not remember the days when a can of Shandy Bass was the most s'phisticated, grown up thing you could drink? A step onwards and upwards from the beer-flavoured floppy sweet. Mmm, floppy sweets. So anyway, some brylcreemed boy who I could tell had me marked down as some kind of poofter refused point blank to buy me a half-lemonade drinkie. So I had to have proper lager, etc. etc. Luckily I was able to sleep till 11.30, so at least part of my day hasn't been spoiled. Belle and Sebastian, on the radio. Nice. Especially Photo Jenny! Aww! Stuart and Traceyanne at HDIF? Even nicer. Though possibly the first and last time the Buffalo Bars will hear the Human League being segued into Madonna in Ian Watson's lifetime ;) Everyone sent your Sinister pressies? Hmm? Thanks to my kind benefactor, btw, though I have successfully resisted opening it until the big day. I hope none of you have been peeking... Laters y'all. There's a bacon butty with my name on it (in lard) out there somewhere... Mark xxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mlaubach at xxx.net Sun Dec 22 16:48:34 2002 From: mlaubach at xxx.net (melanie laubach) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:48:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: first time on stage... References: <20021222125916.61393.qmail@web10404.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3E05ECE2.62F90126@gmx.net> ohmigod! hello folks! i'm one of these silent shadow people.. i really enjoy reading your posts and sharing your thoughts. well well well....tonights the night...i'll be on stage for the very first time in....4 hours. soundcheck in one hour. still so much time. have i done everything? everything prepared? i ironed my blouse, i know the lyrics by heart. i know which rythm to drum...... i'm so very very very nervous. but i should inform you about the nature of my stage performance: i'm playing drums in a should-be-garage-punk-when-ready girlband for three month. tonight we are playing at a james bond cover night in düsseldorf....well, all our friends will be there and they will be ever so nice. but still, i'm very very exited. i'm sure it'll be fun. after a minute or so. i hope i won't miss my turn in singing. i hope i won't lose my sticks. i hope i won't lose the rythm. so many things that could happen. but i won't bother you any longer. maybe i will even be fun. and even if all terrible worst-case-szenarios will happen....maybe the crowd is still going to love us?! well well well well well well well well have a nice evening out there! lots of love, melanie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kissingbelle at xxx.com Mon Dec 23 00:44:17 2002 From: kissingbelle at xxx.com (Belle The Excited Dog) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 00:44:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: tissues and competitions! Message-ID: Hello! Today was lovely. The girl, who I thought had left me forever, wasn't lost at all. She was back! And if that wasn't enough the girl with the dark brown hair was here and the man and the woman were here too! They forgot to get excited this morning when they stumbled into the kitchen so of course I had to remind them...These people are so often forgetting to get excited about things. Its quite strange because they seem to always remember to get cross if I accidentally chew up a whole box of tissues. Having said that the girl has remembered to get excited about some strange things recently. When she eventually found her way back she bounced around telling me that the band that make me a little bit famous had been on the radio. And my name had been mentioned quite a few times! I felt pretty proud I can tell you! The nice thing about seeing people you haven�t seen for a long, long time is it makes you remember how much you love them. I was really pleased to see the girl again (even if I was more pleased to see the woman cooking the chicken this evening). I�ll even forgive her for being a bit lazy, she was going to write and tell you about some competitions on that web-site of hers. It seems that not only can you write on a computer but you can draw on one too...and some people did... Look! http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk/competitionresults/ The girl and her friends thought this competition was quite a fun thing to do and so decided to have another competition... and it is here! http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk/competition/ I hope lot of people will enter because as the girl got very excited when people entered the last one and life is so much nicer when the girl is getting excited instead of getting angry because tissues have been torn up. In fact life is so much nicer when people are going around feeling happy and excited in general... Oh a box of tissues... I better go! Love and kisses, Belle xx ********** "good grief belle! Even your tongue has sand on it" I could tell she was impressed with my disguise. http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk *********** _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_3mf +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From billrogers_1 at xxx.com Mon Dec 23 13:27:06 2002 From: billrogers_1 at xxx.com (Nathan Reader) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 05:27:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Ben Folds? Message-ID: <20021223132706.59652.qmail@web41311.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all in computer-music land, Just a quickie. First up, Merry Christmas to you all. Make the most of the holiday by trying something new and exciting!! I have discovered HAVING FUN!! It's new and versatile. Try it! In reference to the subject, my Mum saw Ben Folds at the market today. That's all... And now the crunch for everyone on the sinister mailing list that has the name Kerstin Hammes: Hi Kersy, I have been trying to e-mail you directly but your or my mailbox has a 'quota' problem, so they bounce back. Hopefully you stillget these sinister messages. Can you e-mail me and tell me what you think about this kanundrum! Ps. Your tape is in the mail. The excitement never stops flowing from my computer... And now, we find out if was my mailbox having a problem or hers. 1... 2... 3... send!? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seanghowell at xxx.com Mon Dec 23 16:13:51 2002 From: seanghowell at xxx.com (Sean Howell) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:13:51 -0500 Subject: Sinister: upsetting news and exciting plans Message-ID: Good Morning Sinister, I'm sitting here in my office this morning, and since it's the last day of work before xmas, I suspect little work will be done in this office today, not that I'm complaining or anything. It gives me time to email you all! First the bad news, Joe Strummer of The Clash died. I found out this morning, and it's quite sad really. He was rather young as well, only 50....pretty much my father's age, which is a bit disturbing, as his health isn't really the greatest. At least he's doing loads of kung-fu these days in order to try to keep himself fit. Now onward to a far sunnier topic....INDIEPOP POKER NIGHT!!!! Yes, not to seem like I'm riding on Ken Chu's coat tails or anything, but I am organizing a poker night to utilize my newly aquired B&S playing cards to their fullest! Anyone is is welcome, and I'd love to have some sinister people come out to enjoy the evening. It's looking like it will take place during the first week of Janurary, and it will be happening at my house. I was thinking that instead of betting money (as I have none) we could bet records, cds, buttons, and any other memoribilia/random things that we may have and be willing to part with as the result of losing a card game. So anyone in the DC/Maryland/Virginia/Pennsylvania area, come out and try your hand. I'm sure there will be some sort of after game outing as well, all the more reason to come. Well, I suppose that's enough begging and pleading. If you happen to be interested, email me off list, and I'll furnish you with all the necessary details. Ahh, the wonders of modern technology. I listened to B&S on John Peel the other day, and was quite pleased by what I heard. I especially enjoyed the James Brown cover!! It certainly got me in the holiday spirit. Thank you darling internet for making it all possible. Well, some work just got dropped on my desk, and in the interest of keeping this job, I should probably do it, so I must take my leave now. I'd like to wish a happy holidays to every single one of you. Hopefully you are all happy and healthy. love and holiday cheer, Sean P.S. - Isn't this sinister present exchange business wonderful fun???? _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Mon Dec 23 13:04:59 2002 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:04:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: tRaiN iN vAiN .... R.I.P. Message-ID: <20021223130459.78048.qmail@web41006.mail.yahoo.com> Joe Strummer's DEAD!!!! What can I say about 1977 that hasn't been said before? When most people think of Punk, it's a cinch they will think of 1977... We ain't gonna be treated like trash We got one thing We are the Clash What? We are the Clash It's like a patch You can strike that match Back in 1976, a fledgling practice band asks a pub rock star at the unemployment line to join their outfit and a legend is born. What is not told is how this improbable outfit was the work of a crazed svengali, looking to rival his boss' band who were put together to sell blue jeans and bondage gear... Mick Jones, Paul Simonon and Joe Strummer were three totally different people from one another and even from their fans and contemporaries... tommy gun you'll be dead when your war is won tommy gun but did you have to gun down everyone? i can see it's kill or be killed a nation of destiny has got to be fulfilled whatever you want, you're gonna get it! Joe Strummer was born in Ankara, Turkey, the son of a Scottish diplomat. /// "Punk legend Joe Strummer of "The Clash" has died, his record company said Monday. He was 50." \\\ They say that to see the Clash in 1977 was to see a band on fire... Very few bands have matched the pure catharsis the Clash embodied in their early days. They were a blur onstage, constantly in motion, fueled by their prodigous speed consumption. Strummer performed like the stage was electrified, spitting and shaking and convulsing. London calling to the underworld Come out of the cupboard, all you boys and girls London calling, now don't look at us All that phoney Beatlemania has bitten the dust London calling, see we ain't got no swing 'Cept for the ring of that truncheon thing /// "Punk legend Joe Strummer of "The Clash" has died, his record company said Monday. He was 50." \\\ The outrageous antics of the Punk movement attracted the attention of Her Majesty's police and the Clash continually found themselves in and out of the dock on a procession of petty charges. This harassment could not stop them... London's burning with boredom now... London's burning dial 99999 /// "Punk legend Joe Strummer of "The Clash" has died, his record company said Monday. He was 50." \\\ The Clash have been one of the most important political bands in Britain... one of the most coz there have been others too... not the Clash though... they hated and condemned drugs as another means to submission, they took part in riots... they said "evolve oR die"... Yankee detectives Are always on the TV 'Cos killers in America Work seven days a week Joe Strummer died at the age of 50... the cause of his death's still undentified... some say it was a heart attack... No matter what I say about him, about the Clash, will be just words unable to catch the significance, the infuence and the weight this band holds... Rest In Peace, Joe Strummer... We shall remember you... Vel "N' every gimmick hungry yob digging gold from rock 'n' roll Grabs the mike to tell us he'll die before he's sold But i believe in this-and it's been tested by research That he who fucks nun will later join the church" The Clash "Death oR GloRy" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Mon Dec 23 23:59:46 2002 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:59:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Straight To Heaven Message-ID: <20021223235946.1993.qmail@web40403.mail.yahoo.com> Yes, a great man is dead. The news shocked. So young - well, 50 is not quite young even now: but it needn't be a dying age in the millennial developed world. I don't know the details of his death - no matter. His life was important. There are those who'll tell you that the Clash were always worse than second-rate: that they lacked the epoch-defining quality of the Pistols. I listen to that case with respect, as long as it's respectfully made. Often it isn't. Still, my editor, for instance, will probably tell you that Lydon was like Presley or Martin Luther: an intuitive genius of the culture. And many, following this path, will find little to say for Strummer. The Clash are seen as derivative of the Pistols (but what's wrong with derivation?); as calculated and self-concsious rather than instinctive pixies of misrule; as men too addicted to their gender. There is something in all this. But the thing is, I don't really *like* the Pistols. When did you last listen to them? You did? No matter - I didn't. But the Clash: when did I last listen to the Clash? Not recently enough. But when I was a boy with a more innocent head, fewer tunes and clearer skin than today, I would gradually collect instances of their handiwork. A country fan, pop promoter and would-be nurse taped me, not just the LPs (he edited !SANDINISTA! specially) but the B-sides. Those were slightly emptier days in a way - I mean, if someone gave you a tape, you *listened* to it. Maybe I was just young. Anyway: 'First Night Back In London'. 'Jail Guitar Doors'. '1977'. And that one with which we'd greet each other in a pub or a kebab shop, 'Groovy Times'. "The housewives", he'd say, "are all singing it". Forget the band rivalries, the inter-punk competition clubs - though me, I backed the Clash for that title then and I do now; even the Buzzcocks trailed a ways behind. Think of the band's, and the man's, actual qualities. Some of them seeming negatives, things you had to make yourself kind of like: the raggedness, the sprawl, the endless dub versions. Some of them better from the start: the politics, they were always ambiguous, never quite up front enough for a lad who took Homage To Catalonia to provincial football matches; but they were more present than almost anywhere in the pop tradition. The wit - look at the scurrying scribbles of the lyrics on the London Calling LP. The rock thrills: think of the drum and the guitars at the start of 'Safe European Home'. The range, a rare thing for me to enjoy: the way they essayed gospel, ballroom dancing, electric guitar waltz, reggae, country, disco and the rest, cheek by jowl, like they were making 29 PROTEST SONGS without any mention of Busby Berkeley. And further back, it comes to me now: the visceral rush only childhood can instil, the mystery and drama of 'London Calling' itself, throbbing repeatedly into me before I was seven years old. That was the Clash. Strummer himself, remarkably, was more appealing than all that. Try to catch him on a documentary - I'm thinking of Don Letts' WESTWAY TO THE WORLD, which they'll surely repeat some day now. I watched that in wonder: not so much at the band's exploits, but at the man's latter-day presence, his astounding charisma when placed in front of a camera. He drawled, but he didn't mumble: he wanted to *talk*, like a dear old pal uncorking a bottle of wine. He talked as few pop stars could. I can't quite remember what he said. I know he talked about emotion and affection. It was all passion and wry glory - but it wasn't just dumb raw feeling, there was such intelligence too, somewhere, in the way he slowly wrapped phrases around the memories that started flying back at him once the cameras rolled and they asked him a question. Maybe it was the slow sincerity of his voice; maybe the cautious look in his eye. I don't know. I knew I had rarely seen a greater pop interviewee. Stronger, deeper fans will pay their tributes elsewhere. I can't be, don't want to be, one of them. The Clash are not my favourite band of all time; Joe Strummer was not my favourite pop star ever. But he was a lot - my favourite punk, the wryest rebel, a man whose chunky clang and rasp played in the background in times I'll never get back now. And a good man, surely, in a hard world. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samiamx at xxx.com Tue Dec 24 14:16:57 2002 From: samiamx at xxx.com (Samiam Green Eggs And Ham) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:16:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The ragga drops the Hitsville UK... Message-ID: Yesterday was a sad day. I knew it was quite rotten when I found out that I couldn't be with my family for xmas. To make it worse, I heard that Joe Strummer passed away while I was on the way home. Although I was way too young to see them before they broke up, I'd always wanted to see Strummer. Yesterday was a sad day. Sam NP: NYC by Interpol _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coinmaster63 at xxx.com Tue Dec 24 16:36:47 2002 From: coinmaster63 at xxx.com (Reggie Whitecastle) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:36:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Last Christmas Message-ID: <20021224163647.27642.qmail@web14706.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister! I have been away for a while--as an early Christmas present, my sister helped fund me a trip to Madagascar this holiday season for a Lizard expedition--wow, I don't think I can even begin to describe how amazing this experience was. I had my walkman on the entire time listening to "The Boy with the Arab Strap" as I observed my favorite lizards in their NATURAL HABITAT!! A little bird told me that there has been doubt circling around the Sinister community as to my existence. Wow, how flattering!! More specifically, Robyn Fadden and Caitlin Pigtails don't really believe that I exist. I still hope that Marianna Longmire believes in me, because she's my future wife. (Marianna--will you?) Actually, I shouldn't joke around because I have a girlfriend now! Yeah, remember Denise the seductive waitress at the Gunther Toody's? One night, after a few too many O'Douls at Mr. Bojangles, she and I went home together; it was a night to remember. Strangely, though, ever since then I keep trying to call her and I keep getting her answering machine. She must be busy with the holidays or something. But, it was a night of passion indeed, even though when I woke up the next morning she was gone. I figured that she didn't want me to see her with racoon eyes, or something. She's usually pretty dolled up, so she must be self-conscious about her appearance. But sigh, isn't love great? Once Christmas is over, I'll be focusing my attention on February 14th, which is usually the most depressing day of the year for me. But I think it will be okay this year, despite the fact that I turn 40 soon. Okay, well Yoko and John are pawing around at me, which either means they want to watch Eddie Murphy stand-up comedy with me, or they're hungry. Merry X-mas Sinister! Toodles! Reggie __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Tue Dec 24 18:48:29 2002 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 18:48:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: God Bless Us, Every One Message-ID: Dear All Every year, on Christmas Eve, my friends and I go to the local pub and eat a special "Santa Pie". It's the biggest pie you've ever seen, honest, and very tasty, although the beard can be a bit chewy. No, not really! It's not really Santa *in* a pie! It's mostly sprouts, actually. Sprouts and a sausage if you're lucky. Well, I'm sitting here, at home, trying to get through the post-pie lull and considering whether I may as well simply curl up here on this bed and go to sleep. But every time I close my eyes I have terrifying visions of the Blue Peter Christmas Special's Bollywood Finale... So instead, I decided to write this. And I thought that I'd begin with a song: "He came down to Earth from Heaven. Who is God and Lord of all..." No, I'm not singing about the Pinefox, I'm actually, like our tender armed brother Struan, singing about Our Lord: The Christ Baby. Oh yes. I'm filled with the joy of the season alright. Well, it's either that or the sherry. I love singing carols, and I actually went carol singing on Friday. This is another little tradition that I keep every year. I go singing with the local church, who send groups of carol singers around the town to visit the homes of the old, deaf and barmy. I have to sing extra loud so they won't guess that I am in fact a Sinner and an Unbeliever. Well, after the Peel carol concert on Wednesday I was feeling pumped up, like Grandad's belly on Boxing Day morning, and, while I couldn't persuade them to sing "He Come From Da Glorious King Dom" I did manage to wrangle a solo for "We Three Kings". Usually I play Gaspar, the shape-shifting king, but today I was chosen to be Balthazar, the hip-hop king. I intended to play my part with gravitas and pathos. I was going to make Old Betty weep. I was going to make Old Albert's false teeth fall out in open mouthed wonder. But, instead, after Melchior and Gaspar had finished and I launched into my Wise Words about Myhrr, I realised that although I knew the tune perfectly well I'd begun to sing something entirely different. I panicked, and began looking desperately for the right notes. Now, as I said, Balthazar - the King from Da Hood - is a tricky role to play. It requires perfect concentration, something of which, as I grasped blindly for the notes, I didn't have very much. So, instead of singing "Sorrowful, sighing, bleeding, dying, sealed in a stone cold tomb", informing The Christ of his unhappy future, I got a little carried away with the alliteration and sang "Sorrowful, sighing, seeding (?!), lying..", then gave up. They forgave me, of course. If there's one thing Christians have in spades it's forgiveness. But I'm a little worried that the Big Fella won't be too pleased, and instead of enjoying myself tonight as I should I'm going to be spending most of my time checking the sky for thunderclouds in case I'm unexpectedly smote. I thought B+S were very good, actually. Far better than me, anyway, although I think the verdict's still out on some of the new songs. It's a wonder Stuart finds any time to put on Carol Concerts what with his dairy and everything. I'd better be off down the boozer soon. I think that I'll just say hello to Melanie before I go. It's good to have you with us Melanie. I like to see a girl who knows where to stick an umlaut. So, I'm afraid I can't give you a Bollywood ending, but I can wish you all a Merie Christmas and if we screw up our eyes and all make a wish, maybe the Christmas Angel Llew might come and pay us a festive visit. r o b i n x ps: I must say that the Christmas angels who have visited us already this year have been very eloquent, and Vel and PF's words on Strummer were just perfect. I feel i should mention Mary from Sterolab, too, who died a few weeks ago. Like Nico, she died on a bicycle. I think it's a good way to go. That's rock n roll. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james.thorniley at xxx.com Tue Dec 24 19:27:58 2002 From: james.thorniley at xxx.com (Father Christmas) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 19:27:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Last Christmas, I Ken Chu my heart (bowling) Message-ID: <20021224192758.MTKE900.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@[10.137.100.64]> Ho Ho Ho, hello sinister. My name is Father Christmas! Not Santa, no, I've been trying to get rid of that name for years. I only signed that deal with coke cause I thought it was just for the one year. We were really strapped for cash you see, and the bloody elf unions were giving me so much frickin hassle. So anyway, it turned out I'd actually signed off my image for the sole use of Coca Cola for the rest of my life. Unfortunately that means forever in my case. Still, I'm not allowed to be frickin angry am I?!! Oh no, its in my contract, I have to be jolly, or they'll fire me out of a cannon. (London listees / people who want to go bowling read on, all else have a very merry christmas xxxx) So anyway, I heard you all wanted to go bowling. Not the sort of request I normally deal with. Frankly, I don't see why you can't sort it out amongst yourselves. If you want to go bowling please turn up at Rowens bowling alley, Stroud Green Road which is somewhere in north london. I think its pretty much opposite finsbury park tube station, if you leave by the correct exit, I don't know which one that is, or even if there's more than one exit. Time: 3.30pm Sunday 29th December. Sorry I know its short notice but uhh, one of you is leaving london the weekend after and would really like to go hence it is this weekend. Please please please come. If its a terrible day for you we could perhaps move it to saturday or something, feel free to give me an email. Bye then, I have to get down to Sainsbury's before they close and buy twelve tons of petrol to do my deliveries tonight. Ho Ho Ho. Merry Christmas Father Christmas +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Wed Dec 25 17:14:47 2002 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 17:14:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Big John Lebowski Shaft (29TH DEC = INTERNATIONAL SINISTER BOWLING DAY) Message-ID: HELLO ALL! Just a quick reminder, that THIS WEEKEND IS INTERNATION SINISTER BOWLING DAY! It started last year, when sinister communities all around the world were to organise a BOWLING FEST in their local area, and then REPORT BACK. Now, IT'S BACK! WHAT TO DO NOW ============== Call all the sinisters in your area now, and go BOWLING WITH THEM this weekend, either 28th or 29th Dec. And then REPORT BACK to sinister telling us how great it was, and how great I am. Thank you James Thorniley for organising the London one! I hope to be there! I hear that there might be a GLASGOW event in the horizon too (see what Id just done? glasgow EVENT in the HORIZON - wow I'm good). OK Just to recap... /1. Organise bowling for this weekend with fellow sinisters /2. Go bowling this weekend with fellow sinisters /3. Report back on how great it was /4. Report back on how great I am HAPPY XMAS Ken _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james.thorniley at xxx.com Wed Dec 25 21:44:31 2002 From: james.thorniley at xxx.com (Father Christmas) Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 21:44:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Reporting back (+ more IMPORTANT LONDON BO Message-ID: <20021225214431.NMMK4699.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@[10.137.100.63]> Hi, I will report back briefly on the How Does It Feel... event the other day with DJ Struan: It was grand, really. There was some dancing, some (very overpriced) drinking, and he played feckin' Human League! Human League fer christ's sake. That bit was horrible, but on the whole a good night. I have decided that in future, however, I shall not go out in London without some sensible plan of what I am doing overnight, lest I get stranded again. I was going to try and sleep in the arrivals lounge at Gatwick airport, but after night-bussing to Victoria, where I was hoping there would be late night trains to the airport, I found the station closed. I carried on riding night buses for a while, and eventually decided to make my way to Waterloo, where there would eventually be a train in the morning to take me home. However the night-bus to Waterloo didn't seem to actually go to Waterloo, and I ended up at London Bridge. After a brief (45 minute!) midnight sight-seeing walk along the river, I got to the station at 5am. There, I indulged in an uncomfortable conversation with! a transient, who for some reason wanted to know if I was gay, because according to him I look it. When I escaped him I managed to get a little sleep on the train home, before collapsing in bed. London bowling: I've had a request to move it to Saturday, I believe its the 28th. We'll keep it at 3.30pm I suppose. I hope this is not worse for anyone. There should be more trains and stuff on saturday anyway so it should really be easier. Plus we can stay in the pub for half an hour longer. Go here: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=531435&y=186855&z=1&sv=531250,186750&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf See you all there, please come!! James x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Thu Dec 26 00:37:08 2002 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 16:37:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: so this is christmas.... Message-ID: <20021226003708.3052.qmail@web40606.mail.yahoo.com> hello everyone. i haven't posted in ages. i was intending to send a christmas post to give everyone a well wishing...a pall was cast over this intention today. this morning, round 6 am, my father died. he and i had had plenty of "issues", but none of them seem to matter now. i was raised by my grandparents and when my father escaped death 10 years ago, i thought i would be in the clear in that regard for many years to come. i thought that i would be fine in the event of his death. i have found this to be false. i have been a mess all day. i see little sense in this entire situation. i do find some solace,however, in the fact that in the past 10 years, my father was able to become for my little sister what he could never be for my older siblings and i. i don't really know what else to say. i don't know why i am posting any of this really. i suppose i am using the list as a panacea. a way to get my thoughts out of my head into the blind abyss of cyberdom. wishing you a merrier christmas than mine... ~stine __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jlhill81 at xxx.com Thu Dec 26 00:54:35 2002 From: jlhill81 at xxx.com (Joanne Hill) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 00:54:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: feliz navidad Message-ID: hello all, best christmas greetings to everyone. As ususal its been a day of too much food, too much alcohol, sleepy relatives and way too much crap telly. But it was better than expected, despite getting disillusioned recently with the living at home with the folks thing I didn't have a bad day. A bit rainy though. Won't last for long, will be with my beloved by the weekend and then back to Canada for some proper winter weather (getting a bit scared of low temperatures now) in about two weeks. I need my Toronto independence back! I think a christmas with my boyf would be nice and is well overdue. Next year maybe. I miss him. Also can't wait to give him his xmas pressie, a Mark Rothko print, one of his faves but I can't stand it. Call that art??!! ...its all a matter of personal taste. But I love him enough to give him a present that he would love even if I have to look at the dreadful thing. I suppose its too much to ask that there are any sinisterees in the Coventry-Leamington area? Thats where I'll be for New Year. Debated the Blow Up party in London but since I can't stand that city and its a bit too far and expensive, Leamington it will have to be. Thanks for reading my boring post, Joanne xxxxxx _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_eliminateviruses_3mf +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From retrosec at xxx.uk Thu Dec 26 02:52:55 2002 From: retrosec at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Retro^Sec?=) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 02:52:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: A sinister panto: Beans And The Beanstalk, part 1 Message-ID: <20021226025255.17356.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> BEANS AND THE BEANSTALK Scene 1 A winter's day In a deep and dark December Stuart, and flatmate, Chris “Beans” Geddes. Stuart: Chris, well, it looks like we’ll have to sell the old cow. We need some money. I dunno how much we’ll get for her. Take her to market and see what you can get, Chris. I’m trusting you not to mess up on this. We need money for food, the TV license and to pay the leccy bill, and maybe still have some for the cinema. Chris: Yeah. It’ll be sad to get rid of her. Stuart: Well, goodbye Isobel. Chris: You not coming? Stuart: Nah. Gonna watch the telly. Chris: What’s on the box? Stuart: Man About The House Chris: .. With Paula Wilcox? Stuart: Aye. Chris: Kewl. [Chris takes Isobel to market. He swaps her for some Northern Soul records, ignoring Stuarts advice.] Chris: not in any way definitive, just my current faves. These are great! Stuart: (rubbing hands gleefully) so lets see chris! How much did you get us? Chris: I met a man today. He told me something pretty strange. There's always somebody saying something, He said, "The world is as soft as lace." It reminded me of records. So I ended up record shopping. Look, I got this neat record, by Frank Wilson Do I Love You (Indeed I Do). This is my favourite at the moment, sends shivers down the spine from start to finish. A great dance beat and a storming vocal that is heartfelt but not too sentimental. A perfect record. [Stuarts face drops.] Stuart: spluttering you got records?? Chris: yeah, Lots of these tunes are pretty easy to get on compilations. Stuart: you got records???? Chris: Yeah. They’re great. You’ll love them. Stuart: (face like thunder) I don’t love ANYTHING Chris: Not even Christmas? Stuart: Especially not that! Chris: hey Stuart, you look like your about to explode [Stuart gasps, turns on his heel, and walks out the room.] Chris: Nice day for a sulk [goes back to looking at his records.] [Stuart re-enters the room, picks up some of the records, and in a rage, smashes them, and throws them out the window, in a fit of rock’n’roll madman antics. Chris looks on, shocked.] Chris: Whadja do that for? Stuart: I asked you to get us some money! Chris: Records are valuable! and for a small fee I'll dj in your front room. Stuart: we need money. Chris, we need cash for food. Your djing at school discos won’t get us far, will it? Its not as if they’re paying you. For men with guns, maturing in age will always pay a shitty wage. They'll always pay a shitty wage Chris: oh, yeah Stuart: (mocking) oh, yeah yer shoelace is undone by the way [Chris bends over to tie his lace. As he does so, he accidentally bumps a Ming vase, which was sitting on the edge of a table. Stuart screams like a girl.] Stuart: You’re an untied state of calamity! Chris: HEY! It was an accident! Stuart: What are we gonna do? We have no money. You swapped Isobel for some records. You know we don’t stand a chance. [Chris sighs heavily. A solitary tear rolls down Chris’ cheek.] Stuart Aye. That’s right. Hang your head in shame and cry your life away. Chris: well you didn’t have to smash up my records. What is it I must do to pay for all my crimes? What is it I must do? I would do it all the time. Stuart (patting Chris on the shoulder, affectionately, but in a manly way): Chris, where did you go wrong? You used to make me smile when I was down [Chris sobs a bit more.] Stuart: Look. Chris. What have we got left? I got rid of my car and I loved my car. Chris (interupting): yeah, and GAVE AWAY the money to CHARITY. And you have the nerve to have a go at me. If you had specs, I’d call you a speccy fucker. Stuart: That’s not the point Chris: No? At least I got something back for Isobel. I got records. And now you smashed them up, and I got nothing! [Stuart throws the record pieces out the window.] Stuart: There. NOW you’ve got nothing. Chris: Git. [Stuart and Chris go to their respective bunk beds, fighting on the ladder for the top bunk. Stuart, being an ex-boxer ‘n’ all, wins. Chris lies on the bottom bunk grumbling.] Stuart: Go to sleep! Chris: No you go to sleep first! [The argument over who goes to sleep first rages on for half an hour, resulting in both falling asleep.] TO BE CONTINUED..... ===== http://retrosec.blogspot.com/ thoughts __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From retrosec at xxx.uk Thu Dec 26 03:35:07 2002 From: retrosec at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Retro^Sec?=) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 03:35:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: A sinister panto: Beans And The Beanstalk, part 1 Message-ID: <20021226033507.68618.qmail@web13108.mail.yahoo.com> BEANS AND THE BEANSTALK A winter's day In a deep and dark December Stuart, and flatmate, Chris “Beans” Geddes. Stuart: Chris, well, it looks like we’ll have to sell the old cow. We need some money. I dunno how much we’ll get for her. Take her to market and see what you can get, Chris. I’m trusting you not to mess up on this. We need money for food, the TV license and to pay the leccy bill, and maybe still have some for the cinema. Chris: Yeah. It’ll be sad to get rid of her. Stuart: Well, goodbye Isobel. Chris: You not coming? Stuart: Nah. Gonna watch the telly. Chris: What’s on the box? Stuart: Man About The House Chris: .. With Paula Wilcox? Stuart: Aye. Chris: Kewl. [Chris takes Isobel to market. He swaps her for some Northern Soul records, ignoring Stuarts advice.] Chris: not in any way definitive, just my current faves. These are great! Stuart: (rubbing hands gleefully) so lets see chris! How much did you get us? Chris: I met a man today. He told me something pretty strange. There's always somebody saying something, He said, "The world is as soft as lace." It reminded me of records. So I ended up record shopping. Look, I got this neat record, by Frank Wilson Do I Love You (Indeed I Do). This is my favourite at the moment, sends shivers down the spine from start to finish. A great dance beat and a storming vocal that is heartfelt but not too sentimental. A perfect record. [Stuarts face drops.] Stuart: (spluttering) you got records?? Chris: yeah, Lots of these tunes are pretty easy to get on compilations. Stuart: you got records???? Chris: Yeah. They’re great. You’ll love them. Stuart: (face like thunder) I don’t love ANYTHING Chris: Not even Christmas? Stuart: Especially not that! Chris: hey Stuart, you look like your about to explode [Stuart gasps, turns on his heel, and walks out the room.] Chris: Nice day for a sulk [goes back to looking at his records.] [Stuart re-enters the room, picks up some of the records, and in a rage, smashes them, and throws them out the window, in a fit of rock’n’roll madman antics. Chris looks on, shocked.] Chris: Whadja do that for? Stuart: I asked you to get us some money! Chris: Records are valuable! and for a small fee I'll dj in your front room. Stuart: we need money. Chris, we need cash for food. Your djing at school discos won’t get us far, will it? Its not as if they’re paying you. For men with guns, maturing in age will always pay a shitty wage. They'll always pay a shitty wage Chris: oh, yeah Stuart: (mocking) oh, yeah yer shoelace is undone by the way [Chris bends over to tie his lace. As he does so, he accidentally bumps a Ming vase, which was sitting on the edge of a table. Stuart screams like a girl.] Stuart: You’re an untied state of calamity! Chris: HEY! It was an accident! Stuart: What are we gonna do? We have no money. You swapped Isobel for some records. You know we don’t stand a chance. [Chris sighs heavily. A solitary tear rolls down Chris’ cheek.] Stuart: Aye. That’s right. Hang your head in shame and cry your life away. Chris: well you didn’t have to smash up my records. What is it I must do to pay for all my crimes? What is it I must do? I would do it all the time. Stuart (patting Chris on the shoulder, affectionately, but in a manly way): Chris, where did you go wrong? You used to make me smile when I was down [Chris sobs a bit more.] Stuart: Look. Chris. What have we got left? I got rid of my car and I loved my car. Chris (interupting): yeah, and GAVE AWAY the money to CHARITY. And you have the nerve to have a go at me. If you had specs, I’d call you a speccy fucker. Stuart: That’s not the point Chris: No? At least I got something back for Isobel. I got records. And now you smashed them up, and I got nothing! Stuart throws the record pieces out the window. Stuart: There. NOW you’ve got nothing. Chris: Git. [Stuart and Chris go to their respective bunk beds, fighting on the ladder for the top bunk. Stuart, being an ex-boxer ‘n’ all, wins. Chris lies on the bottom bunk grumbling.] Stuart: Go to sleep! Chris: No you go to sleep first! [The argument over who goes to sleep first rages on for half an hour, resulting in both falling asleep.] TO BE CONTINUED.... **************************** Love idles ===== http://retrosec.blogspot.com/ thoughts __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From desolation_blues at xxx.com Fri Dec 27 01:08:05 2002 From: desolation_blues at xxx.com (andrew thorpe) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 01:08:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: oh Sheffield, so much to answer for Message-ID: Hey Sinister, As soon as I put the phone down on the hook, and stopped trembling I grabbed for a pad of paper and started writing but I couldn�t get past �hello sinister�. I contented myself with the promise that I�d write better tomorrow when my head was clear. It�s been 3 days, and it�s taken me 10 minutes to write this. I find that I can only write about something after it�s happen. And it�s still happening. As I put my pen down I went to my parents bookcase to look for Charles Dickens �A Tale of Two Cities�, I had the line "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times,� ringing in my head. Have you ever felt so exhilaratingly happy, and disturbingly scared at the same time? Before I grabbed for the pad of paper I was on the phone with my err, well I don�t really know who I was talking to anymore. (No, not my girlfriend, but I don�t like to say �ex� its not a proper word, I don't like the way it sounds and certainly doesn�t reflect how I feel). Her. The girl. I think you get it. After an hour of me rambling on about nothing, she very politely, told me to go. We talked about chocolates, the Polyphonic Spree, Dostoyevsky, as if it were August, but the great extent of the conversation was me just rambling on and on. I was so anxious that there would be an awkward silence � with the noise of each other breathing the only sound to be heard, or a pregnant pause to an ill thought out remark on my behalf, I just kept on rambling and rambling on, throwing any word in sight down the phone. I don�t think she minded, I don�t think she knew what to say either. It was so wonderful to hear her voice. I could have just curled up on my bed, and let her voice creep like a snake into my ears, actually I think I did. I didn�t really care what she was saying, it all sounded like music to me, corny I know, but truthful. I stood with the phone in my hand, my finger poised over the last digit of her number for almost as long. I was so nervous. I couldn�t press the button down for the shaking of my hand, or for the fear of her words (or perhaps it simply was the vodka I was drinking). What would she say, after I pressed down 3. Would she be glad I phone? Did she hate me? I wouldn�t blame her. I wondered whether she�d be in, or out enjoying herself, forgetting about me. I wondered who would answer the phone, her or one of her sisters, her parents - would they recognise my voice, would they raise an eyebrow, would they tell me to put the phone down? What I thought about the most was myself though. Was this the right thing to do? If I put the phone down I could still escape. If I waited just a couple more months perhaps the tears would stop, and then later the pain. But I couldn�t last a couple more months, I could hardly last an hour. Throughout the conversation I had to keep biting my lip, whenever she mention university, her new life - her life without me. I�d missed so much, and what had she missed? Nothing. At the slightest mention of a person I didn�t know, let alone a man I became insanely jealous, (and my lip very thin,) but as quickly as we changed topics it evaporated. Can I do this? Can I be her friend, just her friend only her friend. I�ve spent too long with her to know anything else, to want anything else. I just want to hold her hand, hear her voice, but still... Well it doesn�t really matter if I can or can�t, as soon as I picked up that phone, no as soon as I sent that letter I pushed myself into it. And I can�t walk away again. I had the grandest plans in September, but as September changed into December all such plans had dissolved, and all I could do was write her a letter. For the past three months I�d been painting her a painting. I wanted to do the most honest, beautiful and poetic thing I was capable of, but as is customary for me, I ran out of time, and all I had left was a letter. At the time it seemed like the most poetic beautiful thing I�d ever read let alone written. Actually, no it didn�t, but it was all that I could think of, quoting from Byron to Nick Drake, and as soon as I clicked on the SEND button what confidence that was left in my body vanished. I checked my inbox every hour, even though I knew it would be empty (sinister didn�t count at the time), but to my surprise she replied the next day. I was so ecstatically happy, but just as I was about to click on it, I was overcome by a rush of fear. I paced up and down the hall for about half hour until I had the courage to open the damn thing. As soon as I read all two sentences of it the fear had streamed out of my body. She said she�s missed me! Oh, joy! I read it again, and again, and as I did the fear started to creep back in. Why had she used the past tense, yes she missed me, but does she miss me, how does she feel now? And why did the first sentence emphasis �friends� so heavily, and why the passive voice? I closed the window, I shut the computer down, I stopped thinking about it. Until the next day, today, when I phoned her. I had to phone, her I couldn�t think of anything else to do, I had to do something. But I have no idea what I�ll do now. I just hope I can remember how to be her friend Sorry, I should have waited, my head still isn't clear cheerio andy ps terrible news about joe strummer, pss I heard b&s on the radio, number 20 in the festive fifty not bad, although I still haven�t made my mind up about the song, lovely trumpet nonetheless ppps yes, that was my poor attempt to include some content, sorry again _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayeckard at xxx.com Sat Dec 28 22:26:46 2002 From: jayeckard at xxx.com (Jay Eckard) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 22:26:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A round of applause Message-ID: So yo, I was thinking... Everybody go now and thank Miss Laura Llew and Miss Maddie Minx for the whole Grand Sinister Gift Swap. I haven't seen anybody do this and I think we ALL should thank them, even if you didn't get hooked up* cause these ladies worked HARD to organize and supervise it. That, and they're both pretty splendid to begin with.** l'Autre Jay *Laura: he he he. **This testimonial is completely unsolicited. -- "The Posby falls into a Trance In which it does a little Dance." Edward Gorey _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 limited-time offer: Join now and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_newmsn8ishere_3mf +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Mon Dec 30 15:54:53 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:54:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: happy new year!!!! In-Reply-To: <20021225214431.NMMK4699.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@[10.137.100.63]> Message-ID: Hello! A vague account of the last How Does It Feel To Be Loved? night is now on the site. If you have any other better memories of the night, please send them in and I'll post them up. It was a great great night. Thanks to everyone who made it along. No photos yet, but they're coming soon. Honest. http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Tue Dec 31 15:15:44 2002 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:15:44 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Santa Claus bowled straight to the gutter Message-ID: <9D17C3BDDEAFD311AFD100508B5C529F0AE9ADE1@UCLHNHSM2> Hello! How's trix? Why has there been no mails lately, I hope it's not because everyone's been out SOCIALISING! That'd be wrong, unless it's socialising with me then that's ok. BOWLING ======== I hope everyone had participated in the INTERNATIONAL SINISTER BOWLING DAY! Dude, didn't the glasgow massive had the best bowling day ever! Rambling Evermore Passionately On Recent Trip Involving North Glasgow Bowling Alley Cool Kids so yeah! after a heated night in Glasgow at a club called the national pop league, full of "HOT" CHIX, and then staying at a really WARM house. It was time to go cold turkey the next day at a bowling alley in glasgow. Present bowling members were (from memory)... Ally cooooooouk Ken Chuu Kirsten KenyonBenyon Lyndsey Callaghez Prof P Field Richard John G Memorable moments included the discovery of a new bowling style known as THE PANTHER, and the exquisite curling technique. The adaptation of THE PANTHER style by one girl resulting in a strike. And ME! WINNING! BOTH! TIMES! I ROCK. Although an attempt to get a TURKEY for christmas failed on the third strike, and in each game it was down to the nail biting final frame to decide the winner. Oh.. and RICHARD JOHN GILLANDER LOST TO A GIRL RICHARD JOHN GILLANDER LOST TO A GIRL RICHARD JOHN GILLANDER LOST TO A GIRL RICHARD JOHN GILLANDER LOST TO A GIRL :-) It was nice to see everyone in Glasgow alife and well, and I have to try and stop fancying every girl on the street in Glasgow just because they have a scottish accent. (swoon) I was hoping to go to the sunday bowling thing in London only to discover that it was moved to SATURDAY! grr.. I hope to at least read a REPORTING BACK, though. And other places in the world, you better had gone bowling or i'd be very crossed (even though I'm unable to get crossed three times in a row). BTW Happy new year everyone! Anyone in london going to strange fruit tonight? Come and say hi if you are! Ken ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted in it are confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom they are addressed. 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