From hoangmp at xxx.edu Sat Jun 1 04:59:06 2002 From: hoangmp at xxx.edu (Mai Hoang) Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 22:59:06 -0500 Subject: Sinister: oh what a night... Message-ID: <007301c20920$dbfa1b80$355da5ac@VALUED2CAD4949> hey kids! thanks for all the kind, kindpeople who e-mailed me. it made me feel loved. so a personal thanks to mandie may, lindsey and salp for their lovely greetings and welcomes to the list. **** among these e-mails i keep hearing about a kirsten kenyon, who lives in the city i'm currently in. so if you're out there, i like to hear from you, i've heard such great things about you! *** today was my day off from the world of the crazy media. but i'll be back in day cops tomorrow. it's supposed to be "cool" according to the saturday editor! it will be nice to be in downtown milwaukee and not in the middle of waukesha county writing about every school in the sun. waukesha county is also freakin' long! i mean it take 30 minutes just to go from town to town...and that's only because the speed limits are 25 mphs. whatever. i'm writing details so miss lindsey can live vicariously through me internship wise! hehehe. ** another beautfiul day at lake michigan for rollerblading. i love the sparkley lake. there's nothing like it. it was a good way to spend your day off. that and talking to a professor at starbucks about indy movies yay! * anyone who is going to that release party in chicago, bring details! i'm underage, so i have to live vicariously through you chicago people! hehehehehe. sinisterians, have a great weekend! -mai :) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sophiakatrina at xxx.com Sat Jun 1 13:08:07 2002 From: sophiakatrina at xxx.com (sophia katrina) Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 12:08:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: when it hurts we return to the banks of certain rivers Message-ID: DISCLAIMER: this is not one of those goodbye post that tells you all you suck, so please, read on. It's been a week of strange epiphanies - including but not limited to *Tibetan Buddhism *Househunting nirvana: a live/work space at a bargain price that will allow me to fulfill my lifelong dream of moving into a huge unheatable warehouse like the characters in Rent *Run-on sentences that don't make sense *Overdoses of caffeine *Words said to me in a bar, late at night, that made me feel like I was in the elevator in the Empire State building that plummets to the ground so quickly that it feels like your body has been left behind at the top Now that I'm leaving for ports unknown (tomorrow I really am taking the bus from St. Kilda to King's Cross, then on to Britain & Europe - because for some reason English people think these are two separate places - then the States). It's time to bid you all so long, farewell, auf wiedershen, selamat datang and adieu (or should I say au revoir) until August. It's been swell, kids. Some poorly remembered parting words from Raymond Carver: And did you get what you wanted, after all? I did. To be beloved, To call myself beloved on this earth. Much love, your Sophia XXX P.S. I'm stuck in New York City on standby for 2 weeks in July. Anyone know anything fun to do in New York in July? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twistlittlegirl at xxx.com Sat Jun 1 13:16:36 2002 From: twistlittlegirl at xxx.com (Matilda Liljedahl) Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 14:16:36 +0200 Subject: Sinister: How do you fall in love? Message-ID: Hello everyone How do you fall in love in that normal way all my friends are falling in love? I need some consulting here. I love his eyes and I want him to love me but I don't think i'm in love. I don't love anyone, and that's really a bad feeling. I don't really like reading about other people´s love problems, but maybe somone else likes to read about mine:) _________________________________________________________________ Kom med i världens största e-posttjänst med MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shannonjeanmaney at xxx.com Sat Jun 1 16:04:09 2002 From: shannonjeanmaney at xxx.com (shanny jean) Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 10:04:09 -0500 Subject: Sinister: can i get you something to drink? Message-ID: so i can't wait any more. i need a new b&s album. i cannot wait anymore. somewhere in this world, billions of copies lie in celophane. and i sit here. waiting. anxiously. i cannot take it. oh lordy i cannot take it. i have become a waitress, or Server if you prefer political correctness. i wear a carefully pressed apron and give older folks their breakfast all day long. your eggs can be cooked any way you want them. your bread can be cooked however you want them. of Course you can substitute fries for hashbrown casserole! and how about another sweet tea? water too? sure! water for all eighteen of you? sure! and you want butter and whipped cream and gravy on the side? SURE! i have no soul. none. i am going to go wash my corporate accepted shirt and pants. and make sure my hygeine is acceptable. goodbye friends, shannyjean "When I was done reading the poem, everyone was quiet. A very sad quiet. But the amazing thing was that it wasn't a bad sad at all. It was just something that made everyone look around at each other and know they were there. Sam and Patrick looked at me. And I looked at them. And I think they knew. Not anything specific really. They just knew. And I think that's all you can really ask from a friend." --from "the perks of being a wallflower" _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fbrito at xxx.br Sat Jun 1 18:36:43 2002 From: fbrito at xxx.br (Fernando Brito) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 14:36:43 -0300 Subject: Sinister: In spite of not wearing specs... Message-ID: ...I can't focus. I feel like I lost my specs. It's about concentration... I go to work, but I'm not there. I went to an IBM course last week, I wasn't there. Guess how much I learned! Guess how much it costed!! Lately it's been her, but I met her just a month ago, and it began around February. It comes from farther in the past. Maybe 1997, when I entered the wrong college. Maybe 1985, when I entered school. Maybe it's because of our national educational system. They let you go out of school even if you have nothing but Fs. So I didn't study at all. That's why I'm stupid and my posts are crappy! Maybe it's because of my mother... She gave me everything, she did everything for me and to me. Maybe it's because I was cute (I'm not cute anymore, so you don't have to puke!)... people used to like me, so... I never had to work hard, I never had to win anything! Not even (ok, now you can puke!) the girls! So I always took the easier path. There was always someone to make the choices for me. There was always someone to work for me. Now I'm being born. First I thought I was her son, but I was born before I met her. So I thought I was the son of my career, but I was born for the streets as well. Am I the son of life? Am I the son of 2002? People talk about 1968 and forget about 1969. I will never remember 2001 - with planes crashing into buildings, with people plunging from the 100th floor while I was having lunch in a restaurant, with a useless war (was Afghanistan a war? I call that counter-terrorism) - the same way I will remember 2002. This is the year I was born. This is the year I left my plastic bubble. This is the year I found you, sinister. Now that I'm living, that I'm alive, I have to work. I have to choose. I have to say no. I have to cry. I have to LIVE. And now I found out what is the best thing about being alive... I'm never ready! Everything is new and unpredictable. It's SOOO much funnier this way! I used to think I was ready for anything! HA! Poor little kid! So I guess I know why I can't focus... I'm 7 now! I want to go out and play. I don't want to stay at home or at work, I want to have fun! I want to dance, I want to make new friends. I want get get drunk and stoned... And I wonder how my pubescence is going to be! Kisses and hugs, Fernando Brito Post's soundtrack: "3" by Prozac+ and "Biggest Bluest Hi-Fi" by Camera Obscura +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Sun Jun 2 04:24:27 2002 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 10:24:27 +0700 Subject: Sinister: Free cd! Message-ID: well for me anyway. i won a copy of Storytelling on Friday, lucky little me. i don't get it until Tuesday but. Still, a brand spanking new B&S record is surely as good as free things get. i am itching to get my hands on it. i have one week of lectures left for the semester, then one exam, then a very nice 5 week break. i have reached the stage where i can't be arsed doing assignments anymore and just want to sip G&T's instead of going to lectures. Only three weeks to go i keep telling myself, finish these assignments and study for my exam. Only three weeks to go i keep telling myself, why not go and get drunk. i'm finding it harder to be a student everyday. has anyone read Finnegan's Wake? I am thinking of trying to read it in my break. if anyone has read it, on completion do you feel: (a) "well that was a fine way to spend x amount of hours" in a sincere tone; or (b) "well that was a fine way to spend x amount of hours" in a sarcastic, i wasted my break, kind of tone. and any suggestions as to which B&S t-shirt i should buy myself for my birthday? thanks for listening. terry ________________________________________________________ Outgrown your current e-mail service? Get a 25MB Inbox, POP3 Access, No Ads and No Taglines with LYCOS MAIL PLUS. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ann_septimus at xxx.com Sun Jun 2 09:10:09 2002 From: ann_septimus at xxx.com (Salako *) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 01:10:09 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Valedictory address Message-ID: My lovely listmates~ I am now 18 and officially DONE with high school for good. It's an odd feeling - to be in educational limbo/freefall, as I have been brainwashed by 13 years in a tiny school to feel that my whole schooling process would be completely out of my hands. Now I have 3 months to read an entire list of 'required reading' and somehow gear myself for real college. Gonna die. For my birthday I got an Underwood! I real Underwood - 50s vintage, in perfect working order. I feel like Kerouac. Am dying to go do Kerouacian things in order to have something to write about... although I haven't quite told my parents about that one yet :P. I wanted a corset, but that just didn't materialize... I was quite angry, although I don't understand why it's such a horrendously strange request. I have always had a passion for Merchant-Ivory productions, and I already own a velvet cape, so I figured it would be a natural progression. Guess not. Figgers. It's funny when you know a song or a CD so well that you can sing every word and hum every chord progression and instrument part, and then you go back and read, actually read the lyrics. The whole meaning (gut-level) can change when you sing along versus just read the lyrics. The words are still the same, but something changes in your grasping of them. Coming from an inveterate car singer... I can enjoy the same CD at least 2 different ways, and gain completely different things from each way. Or am I just an idiot? I'm counting down the days until "Storytelling"... and am horribly torn up as whether to download as much as I can before I buy it (bright and early June 4) or just wait and hear the whole thing new and sparkly. Any way, I am biding my time listening to the Shins' "Oh, Inverted World" - god this group is yummy. I just keep surprising myself as to how much I love them. Boys doing pretty things on acoustic guitars and Casio keyboards... can a dreamy girl ask for more? Well, this has been epic, so I'd better shut up. happy day~ Ann "There's too much caffeine in your bloodstream... and a lack of real spice in your life" The Smiths _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeremy at xxx.uk Mon Jun 3 04:40:48 2002 From: jeremy at xxx.uk (breams) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 04:40:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Down And Out In Glasgow And London Message-ID: <000901c20ab0$76212240$c32186d9@fpgcsxhi> Hello again sinister, It's not normal for me to post twice without vanishing from peoples' inboxes and memories in the meantime. So I had better make my rule-bending justified. Here goes... I'm leaving the country*. *For those of you that are in the UK, I'm leaving your country. For those in Australia, I'm re-entering your country. And for those in the rest of the world, I'm leaving one and entering another. Simple as that. Right, the point? I'm sure I had one before... Oh yeah, as I'm leaving/returning/other soon I think it's time to organise some leaving/returning/other picnics and happenings to celebrate/mourn/other. Glasgow - I'll be up for the last time in a while on the afternoon of the 14th June and returning to London on the 16th June, so the idea that has been bounced about is to have a picnic/meet-up/piss-up/piss-off starting at Kelvinbridge underground at 2pm on Saturday 15th June. Anyone that wants to come along to that is more than welcome, even if you have no clue as to who I am, or why you should/shouldn't care. Anyone who's not sure about timing, place, etc and wants to suggest/discuss other details drop me an email off list and I can tell you where to go. London - Other than the plethora of regular shindigs that happen in this most happening of happening cities, there shall be a final for the Sinister Bowling League 2001/02 season (well I'm calling it the final as it's the last one I'm attending, and without me and Mr Apps to assist in organising, where will you be!?) on the 22nd June. At this stage I'm open for times and the choice of venues is probably between Hollywood Bowl and Queensway. The final decision will probably depend on the number of people attending and whether or not anyone wants to ice skate, so get those responses in quick smart to avoid the disappointment of your preferences being completely ignored. Oh yeah, I guess one or two of you might want to know when I'm leaving (celebratory drinks, wakes, etc). I'm flying out on the 23rd June, around midday apparently. I'm not sure about the details, I just let my (travel) agent sort these things out for me. Well, I guess I should stop this post being entirely self-indulgent wank, and put something of vague relevance in here too. Hmmm, trying to think of something applicable. Well, there was a lovely picnic on Primrose Hill on Saturday. Many people where in attendance, all of whom I should be able to name but can't. So, as to ensure everyone present and correct is offended and not just a few willy-nilly-would-be-picknickers, I'll refrain from attempting to list anyone altogether. Glad we got that sorted out then. Contrary to the rule applied to alcohol consumption at Sinister picnics (which is something like "The number of attendees multiplied by 82 equals the number of units consumed per person in the entirety of the outing") There was a definite lack of true drunkenness and debauchery (though that could be read as "Jeremy was sober and single") by the standards set at previous picnics. A gaping hole in our communal planning was highlighted when no footballs were found to be in the possession of picnic-goers. A crisis was averted however when a dispatch was sent to remedy the shortcomings of the group ("You said you were bringing one!" "No I didn't...that was last week!" etc etc). To put a longwinded story out of breath, we offered a match to some chaps sitting in our vicinity and thus negated the need for a ball of our own (this didn't stop the ball arriving in our absence of course). We lost (well I say "we", but as I played for the other team to make up numbers , I managed to be on the winning side. I must add, the victory was in no way mine. If anything, I assisted Sinister by playing for the opposition!), but all seemed to have fun in the sun regardless. 'Twas a bit of a balmy afternoon in the end though, and before long the collective of sweet indie boys (sic) were a rabble of sweating and gasping indie boys with nothing to show for their effort but the bitter taste of defeat and a sparkling clean football to be kept as a "communal list ball", for next time I assume. Anyhow, the rest of the day/evening/night was a somewhat standard affair of pub, noodle house and discussions of the merits of Buffy vs Harry Potter. Apparently people slept together (or stayed together, one of the two) later that night, but I was not lucky enough to get lucky. So...well...umm...yeah...I think that's my cue to wind this up and go home (literally). I'll see some of you soon, some of you later and some of you never. Take care all. Love Jeremy ps. To anyone who considers posting reviews/right-ups/reports of picnics/shindigs/gigs in the future. Please remember this one as an example of how not to do it. Instead, read one of ken's, he'll enlighten you if you ask him nicely. -------------------------------- http://www.breams.co.uk Home of all things breamsy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twistlittlegirl at xxx.com Mon Jun 3 11:58:41 2002 From: twistlittlegirl at xxx.com (Matilda Liljedahl) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 12:58:41 +0200 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?B?UGVhY2hlcyBpbiBH9nRlYm9yZyB0aGlzIFR1ZXNkYXk=?= Message-ID: Is there anybody out there? Who´s going on the Moldy peaches concert in Göteborg this tuesday. You better answer quickly because I need some company. I'm sorry if this is considered list abuse, but my friends don't think it's worth the money (silly idiots) so what am I supposed to do? Well, I already know what to do. I'm going there witout them but it would be much more nice to go with some sinister I can pretend I know. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Foto är det enklaste sättet att dela eller skaffa papperskopior av dina foton: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From esme at xxx.com Mon Jun 3 15:35:42 2002 From: esme at xxx.com (ee fumblings) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 15:35:42 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: haikus revealed // week twentyone // two thousand and two Message-ID: I feel better now that I've contributed to posting a "good" post. It was great. Also, it would be cool to have a new pair of trousers. GREAT BIG THANK YOU to everyone who reported back on the US gigs. Casarotto, Ben Apps, Stevie Trousse, Paul Healy and Stefano S. I thought it was a practical joke everyone were playing on me. SEX!) My family has a tradition when it comes to making friends. Friends I thought were gone from my life, are back, bringing a smile to my face. All I can say is that i've fallen in love and destiny awaits. Miss Marianna masquerading as someone who serves therapy. I think we should have a contest who can listen to it the most times. SINISTER NAMESAKE MIXTAPE CHALLENGE Remember that? Lemme Recap. i cheated in one of these, but it was one i really liked. sue me. Greekyland and me will try to rest a bit from all the studying... Raymond Carver: And did you get what you wanted, after all? I did. Sam and Patrick looked at me. And I looked at them. And I think they knew. I was the son of my career, but I was born for the streets as well. I left my plastic bubble. This is the year I found you, sinister. I have to work. I have to choose. I have to say no. I have to cry. I want to dance, I want to make new friends. I want get get drunk and stoned... Finnegan's Wake? I am thinking of trying to read it in my break. Inbox, POP Access, No Ads and No Taglines with LYCOS MAIL PLUS. The words are still the same, but something changes in your grasping of them. / ee / +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Mon Jun 3 19:19:24 2002 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 19:19:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: G20..C90.. go! Message-ID: <80256BCD.0065E0A4.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Hello, my name's Nick and I like Belle & Sebastian. I nearly saw them in Rimini recently. I can't listen to the new album becuase it's scary, as though it reminds me of bad things, but I can't think what those things are. Mice, or something. I think some of it would work well on the soundtrack to The Royal Tenenbaums. I like it best when it's just them going la la la over the Mandingo Cliché talk. Someone said it was typical riot-grrl speak but if that's so perhaps I'm a sucker for riot grrls. I'm still working on my 'Misogyny in the lyrics of Stuart Murdoch' thesis. My tutor's given up on me. I have a favour to ask. I'm moving up to Glasgow for real in less than a month's time, and I need somewhere to live. If anyone up there hears of any rooms or maybe one bedroom flats coming up for rent, I would be dead pleased if you could let me know. I'm up the next two weekends to look myself. Thank you for your time. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From birosaregreat at xxx.com Mon Jun 3 22:51:52 2002 From: birosaregreat at xxx.com (James Danson-Hatcher) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 22:51:52 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: How has your weekend been? I've had a very beautiful one myself. Miss Cay said that Slumber Party were playing on Saturday. For a brief moment I was glad of living in Leicestershire (of the good things about the midlands are the fast trains to London). The Arts Cafe is nice and small isn't it, so good. The first band were(in my eyes) unremarkable. I wandered over to the table in corner where Miss Alicia sized me up for a tshirt "you're a kinna skinnyguy, this'll be for you" and prodded me in the tummy. I quite like Americans you know. Not the ones on telly, just real ones. Tender Trap and The Lollies played pretty stuff before the Detriot Girls did wonderful things that made people sway about alot. ...they really were the best band I have ever seen live and the feeling stayed with me through the sleepless night following, through busy Tube trains, and till the last moments I spent sitting on Primrose Hill overlooking my beautiful capital. With regard to Matildas post.... ....I think the trouble is that all to many people watch films or listen to music where they're told "this is romantic", "this is what love is like". They expect standing under the Eiffel tower and gazing in to eyes that make knees tremble. How about this for my idea of 'love'. Shes your friend, one of your circle(or could be). Not a storm running into your life and spinning you round, but maybe more of an energy amplifing the goodness you have in your life, feel hugged when you think of her and a nice thought that keeps you going when you feel crackered at work or college. Everso often both found looking at the other through colours even others can see a bit of. Proudly waving my Union Jack ,James. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Mon Jun 3 22:45:31 2002 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 14:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: CHU something pretty while you KEN Message-ID: <20020603214531.78455.qmail@web20201.mail.yahoo.com> HELLO SINISTER!!! Matilda wrote: "How do you fall in love in that normal way all my friends are falling in love?" And this has nudged me out of lurkedom. Because it's a question I often struggled with, and whoever read my posts last autumn had to hear all about it (sorry!) My answer to the question you asked, Matilda, is a lame answer that I HATED hearing: It will happen when you least expect it. That answer was always frustrating to me because I always wanted love, so how could I *not* expect it? But since I am very much in love now, I can understand what people meant by that. Truly, for people to fall in mutual love, I believe you have to ask "are you happy with yourself? put the book back on the shelf" (there's my B&S content!) because a lot of times I think we so desperately crave love because we are dissatisfied with ourselves or our lives. I struggled for a long time to feel better about myself and about everything in my life. Those who have followed my posts will know that I identified with the song "Beautiful" because it said so much about my struggle with anti-depressant medication v. depression itself. And for me, I was able to feel better about myself by switching medications. When I started feeling better about myself, everything just clicked into place. It so happens that someone on Sinister had a "list crush" on me, mainly because of my post about the parallels between my anti-depressant problem and the song "Beautiful". Though list crushes have been debated before on Sinister as to their validity, I still firmly stand as "pro list crush". I couldn't figure out who had voted a crush on me that first time, and then ended up getting carried away with another list crush and then got "uncrushed" before I figured out who the first one was from. I remember posting on October 17th 2001 "Wait a minute, am I engaged to Ben Apps?" which is significant because now I ACTUALLY AM engaged to Ben! So it just goes to show that sometimes you find true love in the most unlikely of places. Something that is just "fun and games" like Sinister list crushes can turn into being the best thing that ever happened to you! Now, I have to say that I wouldn't ordinarily consider marriage after only 6 months of dating, and especially since my Benny lives on a different continent, and we've spent a limited amount of time together "in the flesh", so to speak. Anyone who is or has been in a long-distance relationship knows how difficult it is. Ben and I figured that to keep the momentum of our relationship going, we'd better make a move. So the paperwork is in process at this very moment with the Immigration and Naturalization Service, and we expect that Ben will be able to legally move here to California (and marry me within 90 days) in July sometime. Now we expect to be married in August or September. We are so anxious and excited to be together for the rest of our lives. And it was all made possible by Belle & Sebastian and Sinister! Hooray! Now I wonder if I should change my email name to Rachel Apps or if Ben should just become known as Ben fruitloop? I also want to address a recent post from Ken in which he bid anyone who is interested in joining the Mixtape Battle to gang up with listees with the same name and challenge us... I just have one thing to say: ���VIVA RACHELS!!! We are going to kick the Chrises, Wills and Rob/y/ins butts, so don't even front, punks!!! ;) Last I heard, Joe "Rachel Pancake" Vester has sent the tape off to the next Rachel, so we're getting down to the end of ours. Sure, it's been going since November of last year, but we have 13 Rachels on our team, that's a lot of ground to cover and it's transatlantic to boot!!! Just so you know, the Rachels are: Rachel Sunnyset (Rachel Sunnyside-Up), Rachel Playforth (Archel Toast), Rachel Cornflake, Katie Odle (Rachel Cheeriodle), Shannon (Rachel Pop Tart), Lisa (Rachel Ranchero), Caleb Ben Moore (Rachel As Well aka RAW), Amy Longcore (Rachel Applejacks), Joe Vester (Rachel Pancake), Stuart "Piddlemonkey" (Rachel Griddlemonkey), and Ola Szkudlapska (Rachola Cinnamon). Then of course there's our cheerleader Rachel Grapenut and also myself, Rachel fruitloop. As you can see just by our yummy breakfast names, we are a force to be reckoned with (if you want your arse kicked, that is!) So brace yourself, Ken (and send me your new address!!!) That's about all I have to say for today. Thanks to all of you for reading this. And thanks to EE Fumblings for summarising the world of Sinister in the form of haikus. It's much more artistic than my summaries ever were, and much faster to read! Big hugs to you all! Love, Rachel fruitloop p.s. SOMEONE has a birthday coming up...we'll call him K. Chu. No, that's too obvious, let's call him Ken C... and undoubtedly, the perfect gift would be to have the treasure hunt clues revealed! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brianraindogs at xxx.com Tue Jun 4 10:55:42 2002 From: brianraindogs at xxx.com (Brian McNeill) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 09:55:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: bad vibratrions! Message-ID: Just wondering after watching the jubilee celebration cocncert last night that the whole shebang was a complete let down apart from 2 things. Ozzy and his amazing melting candle face, and the sheer genius of Mr Brian Douglas Wilson. I just felt for the guy last night, every otehr pop startwas wearing kinda 'rock starry clothes', and brian goes on stage in a very conservative suit looking liek his mum had dressed him for the school concert. Can't fault his songs though, 'California Girls', totally faultless, just so glad that Mike Love wasnae there. 'The Warmth Of the Sun', this gobsmacked me, a real obscure gem from Brian's Back catalogue. Even Eric Clapton on guitar didnt spoil this for me. 'God Only Knows' and he was joined by the Corrsfair enough still didnae spoil it for me!) He looked so afraid yet serene up tehre, hiding behind his piano and not playing a note. Then waving hsi hands and conducting and doing actions wa sa bit scary. (but hey this guy is a bone fide musical genius! fuck macca!) even 'Good Vibrations' with baby spice, cliff and geezers from steps still shone through. what a guy, such bravery. Also . . . Anyone going to see Monica Queen @ King Tuts on Friday? If any listees are going and wanan meet up for a preshow beer please let me know. Would be nice to finally meet some of these geezers. (especially one particular person but I will hafta be patient and wait a few more weeks!) also (i dunno if this has been discussed before.) if B&S ever do a covers albums what tunes should they do? my vote goes for 'The ace Of Spades' cheers brianx _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk Tue Jun 4 13:28:19 2002 From: MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk (Michael Ashbridge) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 12:28:19 GMT Subject: Sinister: Thunderboys, Melting Ozzy Message-ID: <63829F4EA4@Blackstaff.ulst.ac.uk> I was wondering if I was the only one who watched that travesty last night, the "Party at the Palace". And I was so looking forward to it. So much so that I hadn't even bothered looking at the guest/playlist. I just assumed it would be top-notch pop entertainment. Oh dear GOD was I naive. My EYES, My EARS! Does Mr B. McNeill need his ears syringed? On what planet would Brian Wilson's performance be regarded as faultless? Does Mr McNeill not realise that Wilson turned into a Thunderbird puppet years ago? He stumbled on to the stage, all awkwardly controlled strings, extremely puzzled, not quite able to get his bearings, surprised to find himself expected to perform Good Vibrations for the Nth time and not at all expected to sip his camomile and a nice nap, more's the pity. So he sat behind his piano, looking very dapper indeed, and proceeded to murder four Beach Boys classics, somehow managing not to hit a single right note on any one of them, reading from the autocue in a manner that makes Bush Jr. look like a great orator. His backers -- Eric Clapton, Andrea Corr, and Emma Bunton - - looked terrified that he was about to pass-out at any moment, or perhaps stand up and call loudly for his nurse. I know. I'm being churlish. But a little of it *is* excusable. I'm not complaining that they didn't have Belle and Sebastian, or Hefner; it was the Palace after all. I knew it was going to be Establishment and nothing more. But how come Wilson got to come on and stagger through four pieces of well-worn Americana and Ray Davies gave one extremely respectable rendition of Lola, and disappeared? Talk about feeling short-changed. Wasn't this marketed as a celebration of British music? Is it just me? Why was everyone performing Motown? Don't get me wrong; I love Motown. That's precisely why I don't want to see Will Young castrate Heard It Through The Grapevine. Jesus. I read Sir George Martin was in charge of the festivities. Perhaps that's why Bowie was no where to be seen. Perhaps that's why there was so much fluffy dross. Did music not happen in the 50s and 80s? I'm not sure about the former, but I'm damn sure I remember some great, epoch-defining music from the later. I'm don't want to brownnose Macca, but it was shameful that he was so easily able to steal the show. Ozzy was great, but even he didn't know what he was doing there. The cynic in me wonders how much money changed hands between the organisers and whoever owns At Home With The Osbournes. I read some reviews in the papers. The Times lavished praise all over it, as did most of the broadsheets, natch. Only the Guardian called it for what it was: "a dress rehearsal for the next Royal Variety Performance." I suppose it was worth *something* to see Ozzy arm-in-arm with Cliff Richard toward the end. If any one image could encapsulate the my sense of ennui, that's it. The self-confessed Prince of Fucking Darkness singing along to All You Need Is Love with Cliff, smiling beatifically at one another. I suppose that was worth something, too. The end. I was almost prepared to forgive them their sins during Hey Jude and then those beautiful fireworks. ++ LINKS ++ Playlist: http://www.guardian.co.uk/jubilee/story/0,11550,727280,00.html Guardian concert review: http://www.guardian.co.uk/jubilee/story/0,11550,727289,00.html The Times concert review: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-316439,00.html Offical BBC Brainwashing Propaganda: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/music/newsid_2022000/2022060.stm +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Tue Jun 4 14:02:14 2002 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 14:02:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian PRESS RELEASE 04/06/02 Message-ID: <07ad01c20bc8$0eea5c40$9426fea9@katrina> Belle & Sebastian announce the departure from the band of cellist and singer Isobel Campbell. Isobel, who has been a member of the band since 1996, returned home mid-way through the band's recent US tour. The split was amicable, and it is true to say Isobel will be missed. None of the band's current commitments will be affected, and there are no immediate plans to replace Isobel. *** cheers, katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6ld scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Tue Jun 4 14:42:24 2002 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 14:42:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Black And White Chu Night Message-ID: <000201c20bcd$ab33dfe0$96cc7ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, Hello, my name's David and I like Belle & Sebastian. I like the new album too, I hobbled all the way round town yesterday to buy a proper copy (cheapest (£10.99) in HMV or the V shop, bargain fans). The main theme is very pretty, the harmonica & piano playing are good & the trumpet playing is beautiful. The Struan-sung Big John Shaft makes this old school B&S fan happy. Storytelling has a good tune and Sarah is a lovely singer. I have a favour to ask. Does anyone who attended one of the three Arab Strap gigs recently have a copy of the mini-album 'Quiet Violence' and would be prepared to make me a CD-R of it? I have AS or B&S stuff to swap for it. I see from Katrina's somewhat delayed announcement that my intended P.S. (Now that the new B&S album has been released I wonder if the band will find some news to tell us any time soon?) has been rendered redundant. Good luck to Isobel & I hope she finds an outlet for her talents that makes her happy. Over on Mr K's Bowlie forums there is much discussion of the Jeepster wind-down: does this mean a new label for Belle And Sebastian, & if so, which one? Thank you for your time. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Tue Jun 4 15:05:50 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:05:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Brian Clough's rough as a chuff Message-ID: <20020604140550.16939.qmail@web14406.mail.yahoo.com> Is it just me or is anyone else dusting down their guillotine? Dean XX ps, I think that was a haiku. Please include it EE. go on. pps, that was also a haiku. how weird is that? This is too. Nobody likes a smart-arse so this isn't. Shame about the lovely Isobel though although not entirely unexpected. I got in a fight at the weekend and have a bruise on my head and poorly knuckles where i punched the twat back. can I have some sympathy please? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk Tue Jun 4 16:58:40 2002 From: MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk (Michael Ashbridge) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:58:40 GMT Subject: Sinister: Fcuk* That Shit Message-ID: <67044E29D3@Blackstaff.ulst.ac.uk> So I was on the phone an hour ago, discussing last night's Palace concert with a friend (another who was enamoured with Brian Wilson's set -- I really must be the only one who was utterly embarrassed for him (and 6music, right this minute are playing the original God Only Knows, and I *like* it, dammit (nested parentheses rawk))) when I got Katrina's mail. "Oh God," I say, "Isobel is leaving Belle and Sebastian!" A heated debate follows, in which my friend casually accepts the news with comments like "well, yeah, bands evolve, you know, it's good for them," and I respond with crap like "no, NO, you don't understand, this is AWFUL, it's a complete DISASTER, you FOOL!" And after I calmed down I apologised for being such an ass. She's right, of course. It'll probably be good for them. It's interesting how, after six years of mature fandom and only slight obsession, I still have absolutely no perspective on this band. I still furrow my brow when people ask what their worst song is. "Huh? What do you mean? They did a bad song?" And this is me talking. You should hear how critical I am of every other band in existance. Anyway. If they ever do decide to replace Bel, be it known that my falsetto is pitch-perfect, and I can chat to Bobby about Belfast (like the mess I drove through this morning to get here, which looks like something from Kabul). - Michael (Rioting since 1976) * See how caring I am to all you people with the overbearingly puritan system administrators? Love me, please. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unstablemable at xxx.com Tue Jun 4 17:26:25 2002 From: unstablemable at xxx.com (unstable mable) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 17:26:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: paranoid..... Message-ID: I dont really recall much of the jubilee party thing - i did watch it and vaguely remember dancing in head banging stylee to Ozzy Osbourne but beyond that much of the night is a blur. And Pimms, champagne, wine and common sense dont really go hand in hand as i discovered (who'd have thought it?!?). I snogged one of my best friends and am now contemplating leaving the country for good, especially as i told him that i didnt want to go out with him or anything, this after he told me that he did. I dont think i have ever felt quite this rough - i even had to tell my parents that i had food poisoning from the BBQ i went to, just so they wouldnt think i was an out of control boozer. So what is the point of this paragraph?? I dunno....I think it had something to do with not having a comment about brian wilson, but i'm no longer sure... I am currently listening to Storytelling and i like it very much, but in a different way to how/why i like their other albums. I think my favourite track is "wandering alone". I imagine that i would be dancing around the room in a flamenco fashion to the song, if i could move without feeling nauseous... And so comes this very dull post to an end.... Mabe. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brianraindogs at xxx.com Tue Jun 4 18:00:01 2002 From: brianraindogs at xxx.com (Brian McNeill) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 17:00:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Thunderboys, Melting Ozzy Message-ID: >Does Mr B. McNeill need his ears syringed? On what planet would Brian >Wilson's >performance be regarded as faultless? > Well okay Brians performance wasn't 'perfect' by any standards, the heart and emotion he poured into his performance far outranked anybody else on this bill. Obviously you are in need of a soul. It could have been worse it could have been mike love standing there.I just felt a lot of empathy and admiration that he had the guts to perform. And ray davies was ropey as fuck last night. I'm sick of him wearing that union jack jacket, and if i hear lola one more time I will fucking scream. (And I love the kinks! But there hasn't been an essentail kinks album since 'Muswell Hillbillies'.) But >how come Wilson got to come on and stagger through four pieces of well-worn >Americana and Ray Davies gave one extremely respectable rendition of Lola, >and >disappeared? I mean he is Brian Wilson for fucks sake DUH!!!! TLK ABOUT MISSING THE BIG PICTURE Sit down with a copy of 'Pet Sounds', 'Smile' (Bootleg) , 'Surf's Up', hell even 'Sunflower' or 'The Beach Boys Love You'. That will tell you all you need to know.(Brian is an amateur Human being but a GENIUS MUSICIAN) As for Macca he gave me the dry fucken boak, he was as exciting as a wet weekend in saltcoats. Apart from that I totally agree with ya about will young and his ilk. As for the Queen tribute, shite on a stick. When was Rick Witter employed for that musical. enough of such frivolity Brian _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jamie at xxx.uk Tue Jun 4 18:55:09 2002 From: Jamie at xxx.uk (Jamie Harrison) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 18:55:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I apologise profusely, in advance. Message-ID: <002701c20bf0$f8ed40f0$9865fea9@JAMIESROOM> Hi there, It's been a while since I posted, and this definitely isn't going to be a great one, so be warned!! There's been a few posts about the jubilee celebrations. Although I actually quite "like" Lizzie, I haven't really taken any notice of the televisual feast for the past few days, apart from when Buckingham Palace caught fire. That seemed a bit co-incidental to me, not that I'm suggesting anything... I didn't see any of the live music, I had no desire to watch the likes of Atomic Kitten, Gareth Gates or Ozzy Osbourne. His latest hit is awful, I am not a fan of rock music, so a heavy track would wind me up anyway, but the "Godfather of Rock's" return sounds more suited to the likes of Daniel O'Donnell to me, the lyrics anyway. Slow, mushy and extremely dull. No disrespect to any fans of Dreamer out there. Tuesday 4th June 2002, 14.08, one of the saddest things I've heard in a while appeared in my in-box. Isobel leaving, such a shame. I wish her well though, in fact I noticed a new release album in a few weeks for her solo project on Dot-music. I assume this will be the Gentle Waves, unless she is actually "going solo" in the true sense of the word. Both the previous albums feature frequently on my "playlist" so I will be picking this up, when it arrives... Yeah right, that reminds me, it's about time I played Sister Woman again. The news of Isobel's departure comes only weeks after another of my favourite bands future looks a little grim. I hope, if I can actually say this, that it isn't a "wind up" or I'll be left with egg over my face. Ugh!! get it off me! "Tim Gane and Laetitia Sadier of STEREOLAB (!!!!) have announced that they are to split." Thought's of ABBA, and Sonny & Cher minimal though it is, spring to mind. If there are any fans of Stereolab on this list firstly "hi!" and secondly you will be able to appreciate what a hole there would be if this group were to split altogether. My main focus of attention recently has been on the World Cup, which is odd because I'm not an avid footie fan. This is mainly because I am so clumbersome and could not play a game to save my life! After England's pretty dire second half, it was great to see Brazil yesterday, and one of my favourite matches so far had to be Japan & Belgium earlier today. It was good to see both host countries fairing well. I look forward with anticipation to Friday, and hope that good fortune is on our side...for once! Went to see Le Tigre at the Social in Nottingham last week, pretty good band. The album is a real grower, Feminist Sweepstakes. I'm told by a mate that on recent tours they actually made the male fans stand at the back. Forget Spice Girls, I'd say that's real Girl Power, but that's so 1996 anyway. The next band to consider seeing live are the Moldy Peaches, but Who's Got the Crack? Unfortunately for Matilda (assuming that she'd want to spend an evening with me!!) they're playing the Boat Club in Nottingham on June 14th, it's a bit too far for me to travel to Goteborg!! Anyway I've just realised that's tonight!! Duh, I need to wake up and smell the coffee!! I'd better wrap this up before I get any more complaints. I sense that look of sheer torture that you've endured while reading this twaddle. I'm sorry, but quality posts just won't come from my direction! Cheerio! Jamie :-) * P.S. Anyone know anything about Dot Allison please mail me off list. You could also offer guidance on creating better posts, if you feel so inclined!! Cheers. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From halighhalou at xxx.com Tue Jun 4 19:42:36 2002 From: halighhalou at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 13:42:36 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i can't see the point of patient love when everyone just wants to get fucked. Message-ID: hello sinister. i have been trying to think of an answer to matilda's question for a while now, and have come up short with pretty words. i wanted to write about standing alone on a dark road, having just come away from sitting on a porch swing with a boy i used to love, and probably still do. we swang for a while, eventually letting our meaningless small talk evaporate into the humid sky, making no music together save for the creaking of the swing, moving back and forth with the motion of his foot as he set the pace of rocking. i left, after a bit, and smoked, standing next to my car and looking down the curving road of his new neighborhood. the street was lined with trees, big trees with lots of leaves. the night was dark and windy, and with those trees and that wind, you could hear the breeze coming before it reached your face. i turned my eyes upward, and let my head follow. i closed my eyes, then, and breathed in. how do you fall in love the right way? i exhaled, again, like i was supposed to that night, and came home. i read a poem. and i think it might have the answer, if only i could grow old and discover just what it is that makes people go along alone for a while, standing at midnight in new streets in old towns, feeling the wind and the sky and the sound of moving nowhere, remembering the easy mindless movement from forward to backward, remembering a kiss in a street somewhere else, in another time. the poem talks about things i know. things in may. things blinded. i have tried to discern the difference between loving someone and the idea of something, the difference between having some kind of love reciprocated by a boy or only, in reality, getting fucked over by a boy. i don't know how it works. william carlos williams does. we, at this point, are the children of which he speaks, and i hate us for it. The Ivy Crown The whole process is a lie, unless, crowned by excess, it break forcefully, one way or another, from its confinement-- or find a deeper well. Antony and Cleopatra were right; they have shown the way. I love you or I do not live at all. Daffodil time is past. This is summer, summer! the heart says, and not even the full of it. No doubts are permitted-- Though they will come and may before our time overwhelm us. We are only mortal but being mortal can defy our fate. We may by an outside chance even win! We do not look to see jonquils and violets come again but there are, still, the roses! Romance has no part in it. The business of love is cruelty which by our wills, we transform to live together. It has its seasons, for and against, whatever the heart fumbles in the dark to assert toward the end of May. Just as the nature of briars is to tear flesh, I have proceeded through them. Keep the briars out, they say. You cannot live and keep free of briars. Children pick flowers Let them. Though having them in hand they have no further use of them but leave them crumpled at the curb's edge. At our age the imagination across the sorry facts lifts us to make roses stand before thorns. Sure love is cruel and selfish and totally obtuse-- At least, blinded by the light, young love is. But we are older, I to love and you to be loved, we have, no matter how, by our wills survived to keep the jeweled prize always at our fingertips. We will it so and so it is past all accident. ***** maybe we'll get it right some day. love, lou xxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From municipalpool at xxx.com Tue Jun 4 19:45:01 2002 From: municipalpool at xxx.com (patrick doyle) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 18:45:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Isobel Message-ID: wotcha, I just wanted to wish Isobel the best of luck in whatever she does, following her recent departure from Belle and Sebastian. She will be greatly missed by me, and I'm sure a lot more of you out there :) Good Luck Isobel Patrick xx _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clodia at xxx.net Tue Jun 4 21:19:03 2002 From: clodia at xxx.net (v/x) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 22:19:03 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Norway Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020604214900.00a3aec0@pop.chello.at> Hello, and excuse the so not list related posting! In fact this is blatant list abuse. I am leaving for Norway in two weeks. Practically. I'll be arriving in Oslo on June 20. Now I have little plans, other than that I want to see the midnight sun (the most southern place to do so stated in my travel guide is Bodø .... are there places more in the south? On the map it looks like it ... And what is the best way to get there? Especially the cheapest way? I don't have all that much spending cash so I got to watch my budget. I plan to either camp, or stay in youth-hostels) Actually what I want is a) meet people (Oslo, southern Norway) b) pointers from people who live there or have been there and are willing to share experiences What I give a) my eternal gratefulness to you b) some present or other :) Private replies, please :-) best everything, Vanessa -- I am not a misanthropist, some of my best friends are human. http://www.clodia.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From staralful at xxx.com Tue Jun 4 21:15:48 2002 From: staralful at xxx.com (Jonathan Skinner) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:15:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: nothing now can come to any good ( i think ) References: Message-ID: Dear All I hope this finds you all in fine fettle First of all before i digress any further and this post is broken by any kitchen trips i'd first like to bring attention to something someone said and oddly enough it made sense > Shes your friend, one of your circle(or could be). > Not a storm running into your life and spinning you round, but > maybe more of an energy amplifing the goodness you have in your life, feel > hugged when you think of her and a nice thought that keeps you going when > you feel crackered at work or college. I think that is the most interesting deffinition of love i have heard in a long long long time and it beats collins or oxfords deffinition. I think because of the media (ie the telly and films) we have a rather distorted view of it- i'm sorry to quote the Fresh Prince of Belle Air but in yesterdays episode it was said "you know you are in love when you hear sappy love songs and they start to make sense" i think it hits you sort of like the plague and there is feck all you can do about it. A *friend* (i use the term quite loosely) is getting married in october to a guy who she "loved" in the first week of going out with him- she is 19 and has up to this point been in love with 3 people and that is when love looses any meaning that it had. But to play devils advocate (i don't believe this btw) does it really exist or is it just a notion that is put out there by the media- or is this theory by lonely old sods who for some reason or another don't have it . In the 12 hours since i started this post and now a revelation has emerged that i was frankly expecting for some time- i wonder why though- surely not because of the lyrics to "i'm waking up to us" i'm sure he didn't mean to say you were a bitch!. Does this mean that she'll sink into self righteous obscurity like stuart d- i certainly hope not. Even the show must go on and all that crap she will be missed even though she wasn't happy and not enjoying herself- i hope she is happy in the future in what ever blah di blah di blah. Well now that 12 hours have passed and that bombshell has been dropped i am off to my foetal posistion until the world cup and every thing else has blown over love and lollipops and black armbands for all j +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mail at xxx.uk Tue Jun 4 21:53:23 2002 From: mail at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:53:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: cummings and goings Message-ID: <001701c20c09$df562940$c8f187d9@ivorsserver> Well hello there, well here. You too? AH! What a LOVELY weekend! Flags waving for the jubilee and that wobbly golden coach for the Queen of Britain and the other countries. Which countries are in the Commonwealth these days anyway? Is Gibralta in it? Does a colony count? Does a flea fly? Or just jump? What about the Falklands? Tell me, Queen. I am your ignorant subject. Or maybe I'm a citizen. Can I be both? Do I want to be? I'm right royally, loyally confused, maybe. Perhaps I'm sure almost. Isobel's going. You know what: we should all nominate a new member and petition the band to instate the person getting the most of our votes. Laetitia Sadier, ex-Stereolab, anyone? Hey, she can sing in French, after all. Good luck Isobel. I always liked your bottom, not that I ever got close. I didn't need to. He he. Aww. All power to the Gentle Waves. I enjoyed a delightful afternoon yesterday amongst the ruins of Inchmahome Priory, which is located on a verdant islet in on the Lake of Menteith, Scotland's only lake. A blue motor boat takes you there from a stone jetty on the mainland. 12 persons max. The lifejackets are stored in a plastic tub. I was sitting next to the tub. This fact is of no interest. Yes. It was sunny! All the colours were especially colourful on the island. Mowed grass, that gluppy sound of water lapping into a confined space (I just love that sound), scented vegetation, warm crumbly ancient stonework sprouting wildflowers and an arch holding a perfect little vignette of a budding sapling against the water's edge. Twee as a button. This paragraph is about Friday, 31st May 2002. On Friday, I wandered along to the Boywit Thomas's pubnic. 96 and Michael(?) and some others came and went, including Gavin. Hullo Gavin. That was me in the red and white stripey shirt. Lucy saved me the embarrassment of going into the ladies' lavatories by mistake. Almost. Eek. I got a round of applause, however, from three men drinking beer in a banqueted booth with stained-glass screening, all traditional pub-like. The men by the lavatory door were more interested in their fruit machine/quiz/trivial pursuit but noticed too, as did the grinning bar-person. Talking of Lucy, I think it is she who moderates this list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie All yous glasgae indi should join. I hope to get along to National Pop League next time. And then there's Breamsy's picnic on the horizon, plus new people coming to Glasgow, either forever or for a bit. Yeay! Hopefully I shall have a new job by then. I took a month off after the last one, foolishly thinking my agency would come up with a nice shiny new one straight away, but they are SO SLOW! I was in to talk to one of the guys at the agency just before the pubnic and it transpired that I need a 'character reference' along with my prof. ones. This, for some reason, launched me into a chasm of gloom and self doubt. Who shall I ask? Do I have any friends who will lie for me? Do I know any responsible grown ups? Why am I such a disaster adult? What have I done with my life? And generally entered yet another micro mid life crisisette. Ha! I have one now. No problem. To think I was worried about it. Pah! Brian Wilson mini thread. I thought the guy looked unusually compos mentos. He should loose the salmon-coloured tie, light grey suit and bouffant hair though, because he looked like a Slightly Senile Senator. And yeah, when he started waving his arms at the crowd in the manner of kiddie the toy orkestra konductor (I'm making the allusion up, since someone else has already referred to supermarionation)... And everybody at that concert sang pretty much out of tune. It was pretty excruciating to listen to, as were Mum (sorry! it must be said) when I attended their concert last Monday in the old 13th Note, new Barfly. I'm sure their recordings benefit from better sound balance, allowing their true talent to emerge in all its Icelandicness. Unfortunately on this occasion a combination of bass-hum and drums drowned the delicacies out. It was a bizarre and fun experience watching them though. One of the twins said hello to the audience in a twinkly shy, sweet way and I was smitten for a bit. For those of you not in the know, the Mum twins feature on the Fold Your Pheasant cover. The other twin started off playing the cello, but not for long (I'll get round to this) and had a white top on that beat even Senator Amedala's lycra number. But watching these guys! It was like they were in a kitchen full of musical instruments, cooking up a groovy musical fondue. Apart from their drummer, who remained behind his kit, the other four wandered around picking up this and that and tinkering, blowing, squeezing, fingering and occasionally singing lilting 'la's and breathy 'ah's. They all took turns to play just about everything each. It kinda worked. A couple of them even stopped to chat or wander off stage for a while safe in the knowledge that the general soundscape would meander on, like harmonious cheese melting rhythmically, in their absence. No. I'm not on acid. I'm trying to make this all sound interesting. I know I may be failing. The supporting act, James Yorkston & the Athletes, except there was only one athlete, playing a harmonium and a pedal-operated tambourine, were superb, in a novel folky way. Nice finger-pickin' guitar! They have a new record coming out on Domino. Summer's cummings! With a nod to ee fumblings, I found this summer haiku by Edwin Morgan: Pool. Pe opl e plop! Cool. Now all we need is for the rain to stop. At least, that is, in Scotland and, I believe, In Chile. Of course, it's not nearly summer in the places where it's nearly winter, but you get my drift, yes? mmm, maybe. ok Good. Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Tue Jun 4 21:56:30 2002 From: rfadden at xxx.com (rrrrobyn) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: and everything you think and everything you feel is alright Message-ID: <20020604205630.59925.qmail@web11106.mail.yahoo.com> sinister! hello! agh, bleah, splat! i made it back home to canada yesterday after 3 and a half weeks in london (and several days of that in paris, amsterdam and oxford), but still have no grasp on reality. seriously, everything looks fuzzy. and not fuzzy cute. fuzzy weird. you know, when you get back from holiday and everything is familiar but really much more like a twilight zone episode than it should be. yeah, that. and also, time is moving really slowly. all in all, i'd rather be in london. but hey, vancouver is beautiful at least even though a bit slow. london was non-stop fun and fabulous. it made me ask myself what is probably an oft-asked question: 'am i insane or am i in london?' and also 'am i truly myself here or have i lost myself entirely?' ah ha. er. really though, aren't there a number of realities we move through? and each one leads us to better understand ourselves. yeah, that's it. right now though my self wants to rock. but instead my self is sitting at work and opening 3 weeks worth of mail. one of the greatest things of all was seeing Le Tigre at the astoria on friday night. Le Tigre!!! it was so so so good. it was amazing. religious. it was like being 17 again at lolapalooza but without the lameness and insecurities of being a teenager and liking music that may have well been shite (but was good at the time.) Le Tigre however are the furthest thing from shite. they are rock. solid. and everyone there knew all the words. and *i* knew all the words. and everyone got really sweaty jumping up and down and shaking their fists in rock fashion and so did i. yaay! and even better is that (the famed) mark casarotto came to the show too. and despite the 'faggy but nice' descriptor, the boy can rock. and does rock :) among other greatest things of all: - sinister brighton picnic at which i drank a lot of things which caused drunkeness. but so did everyone else, so ha ha. oh, it was so much fun. i really could have sat on that beach forever talking to people and just simply being there among all that. aaah. and we also watched eurovision, which i almost didn't understand, but then realized that i was making it out to be much more complex than it actually is. which is 'not complex in the slightest'. i suppose i could have put my glasses on to read the subtitles better, but that would have required removing the glass of whisky from my lips. not worth it. anyway, yaaay for everyone there, and yaaay for sinister! - the dancing/clubbing i partook in which caused massive sleep deprivation and consequent recovery sessions, but was really just too much fun. i may start buying dance music. my god... but really, can one get enough sasha? i didn't even think i liked trance (or rather is it progressive house uplifting trance etc?). but, like everything, if it's crap it's crap and if it's good it's good. or something. also, i love descriptions of dance music, ie: 'yeah, this is, um, uplifting breakbeat progressive house techno trance.' ha ha. no, really, i've heard this come out of people's actual mouths. - everything on toast. yeah. bring it on. - all the huge insanely gigantic buildings in paris. i mean, really, you'd revolt too. however, it being 2002, i chose to climb all the spiral staircases in these things instead. and then take pictures like the bastard tourist i am. - the underground and metro systems. how much do i love underground public transportation? so much! it takes you everywhere you want to go! it's fast! (usually) and there are all these signs to read and announcements about stops and gaps and termination points. wow. i *love it*. i actually love the skytrain in vancouver too even though it's above ground, but it only has one line and is therefore just not as exciting. toronto's subway is good too, though again, only two lines. new york's subway rocks my world as well. and i'm moving to montreal in september and what do they have there? a subway!!! joy. - a thousand other things that i can barely bring myself to think about because really so much was so good. okay then, the reality impairment remains. but i think i'll be fine. a little sad for a bit though. sadness that makes it a little hard to breathe. hm. phew. oh, i have the rob/y/ins tape! and therefore i have a mission! okay, more drivel at a later date. mmm, drivel. on toast. love and things much like it, robyn ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Tue Jun 4 22:05:14 2002 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 22:05:14 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: photographic phootball phestival (new picnic pics!) Message-ID: <20020604210514.3859.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, my name is Rob and I like Belle & Sebastian. I've been taking photos of some of you lot at recent pic-a-nics in Greenwich and Brighton. You can see them here: http://liquid2k.com/robster75/sinister.html Featured events include the adventures of Ben Apps' hat and some frantic beach footie action. Sorry to hear about Isobel - best of luck to her in whatever she chooses to do. Can't comment on Toryspelling yet as I haven't heard it. Want it want it want it NOW! Laters, Robster http://liquid2k.com/robster75 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Tue Jun 4 23:51:44 2002 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 23:51:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: is it wrong not to always be glad? Message-ID: the latest Dublin Sinister get together proved to be yet another evening of non-stop excitement. All three of Ms Christine Infanger, the fair lady Rener, and your humble correspondent went out and scoffed food before visiting Dublin's oldest public house where handily they had actually got some more beer in since they opened. and in a few weeks time, the fun is going to renew itself. Because you see, Mr The Pinefox is coming over to Dublin on the weekend of the 14th and 15th of June. I'm not quite sure which evening he is available for socialising as he has various other important things to attend to. But whichever night he is available, we are going to go to The Palace bar on Fleet Street (not the Palace on Camden Street where rugger buggers literally kick each other to literal death). As you know, this is the pub where various Irish literary figures used to drink, and we are going to sit Mr The Pinefox at the very seat Flann O'Brien used to sit at, unless it is already occupied. so, if you want to come along and have a good time, mail me offlist and we'll see what we can do. this will be a two cornered Sinister v. I-Love-Everything/Music all in chatfest, so it's important there is more of us than there is of them. I noticed from reading Sinister that some d-d fool has been badmouthing a concert appearence by popular Icelandic band Múm. I went to see the same outfit play some music here in Dublin, and I enjoyed it a lot. the twin sisters didn't like like the cover of FWGSDGSDGS anymore, and in fact barely looked like twins. One of them looked like she was very *shy* while the other looked kind of *mental*. of the boys, didn't one look a bit like Aaron from the Bowlie Boards? something for everyone, really. for all that the music was completely different they reminded me a bit of the first time I saw B&S - but the comparison is in Múm's favour because while like our heroes they were doing the swapping instruments thing (so that everyone played every instrument in the course of the evening) they were much better at it... no long between song gaps or people throwing tantrums and smashing their guitars. which reminds me of the news about how B&S are losing another member. I think this is bad news, and might be minded to mutter things like "the beginning of the end", particularly when combined with the news of Jeepster's apparent descent into stasis (interestingly, this has been much more discussed on the Bowlie Boards than here, despite Sinister's rep as the premier B&S forum). Ms Campbell may have had a weedy voice but she brought a certain something to the band and I think her departure will have more long term effect than that of Stuard David. But still, as Robert Jordan says, the wheel turns, and nothing continues unchanged. And the last time I saw B&S live (Belfast, Christmas) they didn't seem like a band on the brink of dissolution or terminal decline. so hope springs eternal. In a way, is the band not like a team of footballers who are a few players down and desperately trying to defend a one goal lead until the final whistle blows? I'd like to think that we are there on the side of the pitch, cheering them on. bless you all, the dirty vicar +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Yohanca at xxx.com Thu Jun 6 00:12:45 2002 From: Yohanca at xxx.com (Yohanca at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 19:12:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: on love, isobel, and silver horses Message-ID: <1DE823E2.39AA305B.001BBD6F@aol.com> I have been on this list for ages and I have never posted. *breath* well here goes. There has been some talk about love. Is it a fabrication of the media to get us to watch mushy movies and buy dumb cards on the fourteenth of february? Probably not. Love is that intense warm feeling in your stomach, that melting sensation, that mini rush of giddiness that flows through you when you think of that one person... i dont know, i think i'm in love now. maybe its something else. who knows? but i'm sure its out there. as corny as it sounds, i think the world revolves around it. what are our lives really about? the main goal is to love and be loved. you do things that you think will make you more loveable. its all love. love love love. isobel is leaving. nothing gold can stay. i am from new york. and i get the feeling that most of you are not. britain. i wish i lived in britain. probably because i'm desperate for an accent. Today was my last day of highschool. and i feel the same. I turned 18 a few weeks ago, but i feel the same. i'm leaving my house forever after this summer, but i feel the same. don't my insides need to change with my outsides? i feel like riding away on a silver horse. theres nothing here in new york for me but remorse. remorse for all the ways i've failed, all the grades i havent made, all the weight i've gained. my beauty wears away after washings fades and leaks onto the couches and carpets around me. pretty but not pretty enough to be a beauty queen. smart but not smart enough to be anything. sometimes i get sad. til another time, Y O H A N C A. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From foranotherdream at xxx.com Wed Jun 5 23:04:53 2002 From: foranotherdream at xxx.com (bus stoppers) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 15:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: sometimes i still feel the bruise Message-ID: <20020605220453.35079.qmail@web12402.mail.yahoo.com> dearest sinister, i have not posted in a while, so i am not even sure if i have been forgetten yet. i think that last i wrote was that i was going to leave california and see belle and sebastian in atlanta. well, the show was beautiful. and so was matthew (henderson). i must admit that i have been reclusing myself. as someone else's post brought rachel fruitloop out of lurking, her's has brought me out. i am so happy for rachel and ben that her post made me cry. after i read it, i was encouraged to not think about how much things suck right now. the whole depression thing. it's such a constant struggle for me that i find myself feeling good about myself and the way that my life is going, but then i let someone get to me and it's back to being sad again. i'm sure that my train to thought is not making any sense as it isn't even in my head...so i apologize...but i missed you guys. i had to write, even if it wasn't going to be rubbish. why do i let people get to me? why do things that people say and do get me in such a state that i start to doubt my existence? it's all pathetic really. family that i constantly disappoint. friends that are too far away. a trail of broken hearts that i can't let go of. at least i always have my sad songs and my pillow... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From psi_fla at xxx.com Wed Jun 5 20:22:16 2002 From: psi_fla at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Simon=20Fallaha?=) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 20:22:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Stuff Message-ID: <20020605192216.19725.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Hello again everyone. Long time, no write. Not since the Belfast gig last December, actually. Meant to write since my exams finished nearly two weeks ago, but never got round to it. Around that time a friend of mine went to London and met Marianna Longmire and Ken Chu. He told me about the Track And Field indie night, which I am really sorry to have missed. Me? I've changed my main E-Mail address(I now use an ifrance account) and haven't been doing much else this last week except watching the World Cup. Easily preferable to the Jubilee celebrations in my opinion. The quality of the games gets better every day. The show I was doing with the Operatic Society ("Anything Goes") now seems almost a lifetime away. In fact, the last time I met anyone from the society was more than a month ago, when I went to Coleraine to see another production of My Fair Lady (which, incidentally, totally blew me away and has been nominated as one of the best shows by an amateur musical society in Ireland). I saw one of the cast in town recently and she acted like she didn't recognise me. Just my luck, eh? I don't know whether or not I'll be back with the society next year. I will need to find myself a job first. If it's in Belfast, think of how much concerts I could go to. Speaking of concerts, I did a review of the Belfast gig for our student magazine. Not much point in showing it here again, cos it's basically an edited version of my post entitled "Someone's forever blowing bubbles...". Only recently have I had time to browse through your posts again, and suddenly I discovered Isobel's departure. What a shame. She's one of the best things about the band. Never mind. Like most of you, I wish her all the best in what she does next (sadly, that does not include The Gentle Waves...). Rachel Playforth has a point when she says, "ah isobel, what are the boys going to look at now that your pouting face and shaking eggs will be absent from b&s shows?" I recently got the soundtrack for Storytelling. It's quite good, though I haven't listened to all of it yet. And I haven't seen the film. Last night I went and saw 40 Days & 40 Nights - I wouldn't recommend it to any of you. There hasn't been anything better on in the cinema this last month than About A Boy and Attack Of The Clones (which I seem to like more than my friends). Anyway, enough from me for now. Take care, Psi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bookworm_trochet at xxx.com Wed Jun 5 19:59:15 2002 From: bookworm_trochet at xxx.com (Holly Trochet) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 13:59:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: is it wicked not to care? Message-ID: <20020605185915.54811.qmail@mail.com> Hello Sinister, I never cared much for Isobel's voice or songs, either (though I do think she made a good back-up singer). God knows that I hate Beyond the Sunrise as much as anyone (she wrote that one, didn't she? I read somewhere she did). However, she's been there since the beginning so her leaving means that the band will change in one way or another. It might be a good change - who knows? - but it will change, and frankly, I'm deathly afraid of change, especially when it comes to something that I'm already happy with. Sure, there were times when I didn't want to listen to Is it Wicked not to Care? or The Gate, but there were also times when I didn't want to listen to Stars of Track and Field or Slow Graffiti, either. (Oh, who am I kidding? I always want to listen to Slow Graffiti) I could go on, but I think I've made my point: Isobel's departure will have an effect on the band, I hope it will be a good one, but you can never tell. You shouldn't be so quick to say good riddance until after you see what the band comes out with without her. -Holly P.S. The "huge arsed cello player" comment was a bit rude. It's okay to not like someone, but there's really no reason to make fun of physical characteristics over which they have no control, especially when it has nothing to do with why you don't like them in the first place. I can understand 'asthmatic hamster', because you don't like her voice (and as I said before, neither do I), but what on earth does her derrière have to do with it? > Hello there sinister, > > Where is all this reverence about Isobel coming from? Is everyone afraid to > speak ill of the recently departed? My god, is it just me who breathes a > (breathy) sigh of relief about the loss of the huge arsed cello player with > the 'asthmatic hamster' voice? What happened to the sinister bun-fight of old > with isobel fans vs non isobel fans lined up across the playground that is > sinister? Who is going to share my jubilation that at least on the next album > I will have less tracks to skip? As a friend of mine said.. 'The clock doesn't > mean much to Rabbits and Owls but I've been counting the days for that stupid > insipid daft cow to leave.... ' (hi jim). > > Okay okay, so a bit harsh, but frankly, I think its great that she has her own > side project where I can choose not to buy the albums and all those who like > her stuff can choose to, if they wish. I mean was it just me who was filled > with terror after the reports that she was going to release an album of Billie > Holiday covers (incidentaly did that ever come about?). Really.. > > Hmm, though I wonder who is going to play the cello parts now? Perhaps Mick or > Beans can learn. > > But more importantly, who in the band can be subject to constant ridicule now > that Isobel has left? I mean, Struan (with his 'arms of sex') and his lyrical > genius is definately out. Stevie, although garnering votes for 'Beyond the > Sunrise', seems too nice and (allegedly too good a dancer) to take the piss > out of. Beans is too cute, and he's called 'Beans' for fucks sake. Richard's > into Rock and Roll. And Mick's trumpet playing is too good to rubbish. And > even *I* have a soft spot for Sarah. Hmm, Bobby? No. Its just not cricket if > there isn't someone I can moan about in my favourite band. Why? Because its > fun, because I'm a whinger, and because I have to have someone I can blame for > some of the mediocre stuff they have put out. Its never Struan's fault, you > see.... > > So come back Isobel. Please. We need you. Either that or hire someone crap, > and then we can all be happy, as I have someone to moan about and Bel lovers > can say that it was better in the old days. Everybody loves to moan, right? Or > maybe thats just me. > > Lots of sinister love > > Helen > > P.S - To those who disagree, at least now bel's honour has been tarnished you > have the chance to defend it. See, I'm doing YOU a favour. > P.P.S - To those not aware of the endless debate that has raged for years on > the merits of Bel, just type in 'Isobel: arse' or alternatively 'hamster', > into the sinister archives and marvel at the number of hits. Or look at old > posts by starry(fluffy?) sarah. > P.P.P.S - Note the use of the word 'endless' in above postscript. perhaps i > shouldn't start things again. hmm, I'm sure Cliff would find this > interesting.. though not sure about the Dalai Lama. > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brazilp at xxx.ie Wed Jun 5 14:06:32 2002 From: brazilp at xxx.ie (Patricia Brazil) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 14:06:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: bring it all back to chu Message-ID: <3D112BA6@ntserver-e2w2.tcd.ie> well! shame on ken chu, that's all i can say: i have it on very good authority* that the lovely bel just couldn't take his incessant PS's, "when are the clues coming out?", "i wonder if the band will ever let us know..?" etc etc poor wee bel just couldn't cope that's even why they sent her home from america, her whimpering during performances ("why won't he stop, we've said we'll do it soon, please god just let him stop") was kind of distracting for the other members of the band so there you have it folks - remember, it always comes back to chu another world exclusive** brought to you by trish delish * which is to say, i completely made that up ** also known as tissue of lies PS I wonder if it's a little too soon to joke about isobel leaving the band? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From theboywiththemiddleeasternstrap at xxx.uk Wed Jun 5 13:28:20 2002 From: theboywiththemiddleeasternstrap at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Thomas=20Henderson?=) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:28:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: i got back today and i'm never leaving you alone lot again Message-ID: <20020605122820.66687.qmail@web20609.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinisterites i got the computer working again, it wasn't really broke i just wanted an excuse for being away all weekend to celebrate the jubilee. so wha' th' fu's going on? i must admit i'm not surprised, it's like she was doing it bor business men, it looked like a living hell, anyway who's seen b&s live w/ isobel recently will know what i'm on about, there just didn't seem to be much of an interest did there? but i suppose (in my humble opinion) stuart david was a more influential member and his leaving was coped with well (although the music was beeter wih stuart david, i think, anyway) i just hope storytelling doesn't become the last album they ever put out, that would be a shame anyway it's good to be back, life feels a lot more comfortable when you have an internet connection. big shouts go to gordon and his bathroom adventures/ gender confusion. apologies for my poor spelling (i'm sure there is some) and my crappy email format. luv and stuff thomas xxx ps: did any sini-folk win the competition at npl on friday? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Wed Jun 5 07:59:01 2002 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 13:59:01 +0700 Subject: Sinister: what do you mean you don't want to play football?! Message-ID: hello After several listens of Storytelling I think it is the best B&S record with two girls on the cover. Black and White Unite is like Belle and Garfunkel, or should that be Simon and Sebastian, or maybe Sell and Sebfunkel, ohh i'm confused now, it is a lovely song anyway. and i love the shuffley drums. Wandering Alone made me want to flamenco but i didn't have a partner. so i just tapped my feet. unstable mable, if you leave the uk feel free to come to perth and flamenco to wandering alone with me. Scooby driver is fast and exciting and makes me want to have a bit of a pogo. i don't want to play football, which is understandable because you must be very busy watching all the world cup matches. oh you don't understand the thrill of the game. well write a delightful little song about it then. oh you did. they are my favourite bits, but the rest is very good too. good luck isobel. terry _______________________________________________________ WIN a first class trip to Hawaii. Live like the King of Rock and Roll on the big Island. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Wed Jun 5 12:03:59 2002 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 12:03:59 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: Sinister: she grew up and she left the rest of us Message-ID: ah isobel, what are the boys going to look at now that your pouting face and shaking eggs will be absent from b&s shows? still, with solo and collaborative projects planned etc, maybe they will get to see you Sans Pout, which could well have been just a reflection of your discomfort at international touring/recording/tv/interviews and all those things that happen to you when your modest beat combo steps up a gear on the success machine. may you find your new directions more inspiring and less exhausting. so, i hope y'all who had jubilee bank holidays enjoyed them. my fun started on saturday when i got very very sunburned (mad dogs and englishmen is right), and came home to find a copy of storytelling inexplicably balanced on a can of air freshener (though in fact it wasn't inexplicable for long as there was a message on the answerphone from matt saying 'there is a copy of storytelling for you on top of that can of air freshener'.) through my sun-addled haze it seemed quite lovely, especially 'scooby driver' which is POPtastic. (it was particularly impressive that matt got back from japan so quickly after scoring that cracking goal against cameroon, too. i hope the rest of the irish team didn't miss him while he went back to his alter-ego as record shop manager and archel's boyfriend.) i didn't do much for the rest of the jubilee weekend because i am a lazy arse who has no money, but my playstation skills are now as finely tuned as they're ever likely to get... i am very stressed about moving in a couple of weeks, so if any brawny sinister men or women fancy driving a van/humping sofas around/making me cups of tea you would be very welcome. ok, so that's not an invitation i expect anyone to take up, but here's a better one: i have taken care to sandwich the trauma of moving in between two lovely gigs in brighton - looper on 16th june and moldy peaches on 21st, so if anyone wants to join me for either, let me know. i have a newly acquired 'fuck peacock johnson' t-shirt and everything. luv archel xxx ps. hm, it seems to be my BIRTHDAY the day after i move, too :) ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twistlittlegirl at xxx.com Wed Jun 5 11:34:55 2002 From: twistlittlegirl at xxx.com (Matilda Liljedahl) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 12:34:55 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Lovely Peaches Message-ID: Yihah I forced a friend to follow me to the Moldy Peaches concert. Thanks anyway to the ones who offered me company, although wanted me to go to Stockholm (as if I should go to my city’s enemycity number one when I can see the lovely peaches in Göteborg, the best place in the world :)) I loved the concert and actually my friend loved it too. Not only Moldy Peaches were wonderful, David Kitt was it too. But still the kings and queens (although they’ve lost one) of these days are, of course, Belle and Sebastian. The storytelling album is addictive-good. I can’t stop listening. The good thing Is that the songs are fantastic, the bad thing is I know I’ll keep listening even when I’ve overdosed. I use to have problems with instrumental music with no singing, but not this times. This music is making pictures in my head and it sticks to my mind even more than the non-instrumental songs. I like especially Consuelo and Fuck This Shit. And I like that I can listen to I don’t want to play football when I’m getting too tired of the football games on the telly. Back to Moldy peaches again. People always ask me what kind of music Moldy peaches is, and I can’t explain it. Maybe that’s why ‘I was having a hard time making my friends want to go the concert. Can you help me with some kind of description so I can persuade people to like them. (I don’t want to let them borrow my records all the time). Take care all of you! Hugs from Matilda _________________________________________________________________ Skicka och ta emot Hotmail-meddelanden på din mobilenhet: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brianraindogs at xxx.com Wed Jun 5 11:05:44 2002 From: brianraindogs at xxx.com (Brian McNeill) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 10:05:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Monica Queen @ King Tuts This Friday Message-ID: So if any Sinister memebers in Glasgow who are going wanan meet up for a wee beer please feel free to contact me (I shall prob be a wee bitty refreshed as I'm meeting an schollmate for the 1st time in years for a drink in the afternoon) but please let me know it would be nice to meet everyone regards brian _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Wed Jun 5 09:49:35 2002 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Caitlin Pigtails) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 09:49:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: mourning hamsters everywhere Message-ID: <20020605094935.B14206@candle.btinternet.com> Good Morning Sinister! Patrick Doyle said: > I just wanted to wish Isobel the best of luck in whatever she does, > blah blah wibble. Good Luck Isobel. And the man-hunk Rob Brennan said: > Sorry to hear about Isobel - best of lick to her in whatever she > chooses to do. (actually, he didn't. But I can't be bothered to correct my own typos today) You people, you know, you're all too nice. You should be all fuming with rage at foaming at the mouth at Miss Campbell's storming off and leaving the band. Or, on the other hand, you should be jumping up and down and cheering and shouting "yay, they can go get a cellist who's actually CHEERFUL on stage now" -- well, I know a few of you are. We shouldn't be just sitting back and saying "aw, sorry you're gone, hope the future is wonderful and sunny and full of little sluffy bunnies." How insipid is that? We'll get a reputation as a mad crowd of incredibly twee little fuckers. And I know none of you would want that to happen. Was there anyone at all who was genuinely surprised at the news? I mean, after she pulled out of the US tour, and after it was revealed (by Mick, wasn't it? my memory is foggy) that IWUTU really is about her and Struan. I bet nobody had told her; she must have been thinking "bah, it can't be about me, he wouldn't do *that*" Maybe it isn't, and it's just that everybody thinks it is. Incidentally, I've been working on all the replies people sent in to the Sinister Questionnaire. When the results are all finished and online I'll let you all know about it. Feel free to send more answers in, though. Yesterday, I got all inspired courtesy of Miss Popnoodle Idleberry. She invited me to go shopping with her in Glasgow, and we wondered round Buchanan Street and Queen Street for an afternoon. We saw the David Mach exhibition at the Gallery of Modern Art, which was rather good. Lots of collages, larger-than-life sculptures made from coat-hangers (looking like velcro people), and teddy bears (with big long sharp teeth) aggressively wielding household appliences (all of which had 3-inch power cords, bizarrely). After going round the gallery, we went round the art supplies store over the road, and it was nearly as good. Long racks of paint and pencils all arranged in a big rainbow. Idleberry came up with a rather good plan for some guerrilla art, but sadly (sob) we couldn't find all the stuff we needed to do it just yet. It's a damn good plan, though. All this art and shopping made me all fired up to make and create and just generally do stuff. I want to get some canvas and make my own handbag. I want to plant art around the city without warning anyone. I'm going to go now, and make a collage of the risen Christ being worshipped by Kirsten Kenyon's parents. xx caitlin http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Wed Jun 5 09:30:23 2002 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 08:30:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the six tonnes of isobel's arse Message-ID: Return Ticket The train dashes between trees, ducking roads and leaping rivers. The ticket collector stands with hands in pockets at the door to the first class compartments. His buttons have been polished one by one, and glimmer in the creamy morning sun. He doesn�t notice, or doesn�t care, that I�ve put my feet up on the plush blue velvet seats. I don�t draw attention to myself. I look at the scene flickering past; grass, fences and trees stretched out at speed like bubblegum about to snap. My bed at home is more comfortable than the one back here, but I had to leave, and I�m lucky to have taken some of that comfort with me. The railway rattles past a zoo and the children always gasp as their parents point upward at the giraffes. If you�re lucky you can see deer and llamas too, or possibly even an elephant. The children lose count of the giraffes as we steam on past the tall trees. I look up at the shadows on the ceiling. It�s so good to have a holiday. Telling Two Stories I think the Storytelling album works well. It works better than a film of the same name I saw a few months ago. It seems that Belle and Sebastian have ended up writing the soundtrack to a film which doesn�t exist. Whereas Solondz builds up character and emotion for the purpose of tearing them down, Belle and Sebastian paint characters simply to show what they think and feel, and not to put them through the gnashers of a plot. As a consequence the characters in the songs have more humanity than I remember them having in the film. I was a little worried about the dialogue sections, as they make the songs inescapable from the film, but they�re some of the best lines from the film, and they fit well. Without them this would be a good little mini-album rather than a soundtrack album, but they aren�t painful and barely prick the skin. I saw the Dr Seuss film �The 5000 Fingers of Dr T� a few weeks ago. Apart from being a great film, it�s also a film which, like Storytelling, was ripped about by the studios and its director. As a result, what�s supposed to be a musical has most of its songs missing, props appear and disappear, storylines seem bizarre or nonsensical, and creaky beginning and end sequences are clamped about the middle of the film to show that �gee whiz, it was all just a dream!�. Like I said, it�s a good film - you should see it if you ever get the chance - but I think it�s a dreadful shame all the extra songs and scenes were lost. The Storytelling album reminds me of how those offcuts must be; trampled and scuffed on the cutting room floor. They tell half a story, and make the film a different film. They�re disjointed and some a little strange. But I�m glad they were collected together and straightened out for us to hear. Jamboree! I�ve had a few troubles recently, and at work we�ve been under a ban on �excessive internet use�, so I haven�t posted for a while. Even this one�s being written at home looking out at a whitewashed house with a red-brick chimney. I�ll have to smuggle it into the office in my lunchbox, I think. I apologise in advance for the pickle stains. So belated hellos to all those folks I spoke to at ATP and hey heys to those I met on a windswept Brighton beach last week. It was a very eventful seaside jamboree, with the explosive combination of an entire mixtape team, ddr, pork and chips, and a big gay sailor called Mark who ran about by the water�s edge with his ball blowing in the breeze. Brighton, eh! I also met a girl with the same name as me and was worried that we might be so alike that we could explode if I got too close. Luckily, though, we were wearing different socks, and, well, she was a girl, so disaster was avoided. Did everyone enjoy the Jubilee? I stayed in bed all morning and watched the football. Even the Queen wasn�t allowed to do that! Instead, strangely, she went to Slough. It isn�t easy being a Queen, you know. AND she�s legally obliged to wave like she�s got a wooden hand and to wear a crown which weighs as much as a bulldog�s belly. Bye! Robin x PS: Vote for Alison, because she urinated in the shower, which I think is DISGUSTING! Alex is so funny! He has to STAY! PPS: Mr Moore said : "Now that the new B&S album has been released I wonder if the band will find some news to tell us any time soon?" A quite important piece of B+S news � new album, new songs etc. - seems to have passed some of you by. Here it is: http://www.nme.com/news/101602.htm _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From helen at xxx.net Wed Jun 5 07:57:29 2002 From: helen at xxx.net (Helen McLean) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 14:57:29 +0800 Subject: Sinister: is it wicked not to care? Message-ID: <001901c20c5e$441437b0$090aa8c0@MAIN> Hello there sinister, Where is all this reverence about Isobel coming from? Is everyone afraid to speak ill of the recently departed? My god, is it just me who breathes a (breathy) sigh of relief about the loss of the huge arsed cello player with the 'asthmatic hamster' voice? What happened to the sinister bun-fight of old with isobel fans vs non isobel fans lined up across the playground that is sinister? Who is going to share my jubilation that at least on the next album I will have less tracks to skip? As a friend of mine said.. 'The clock doesn't mean much to Rabbits and Owls but I've been counting the days for that stupid insipid daft cow to leave.... ' (hi jim). Okay okay, so a bit harsh, but frankly, I think its great that she has her own side project where I can choose not to buy the albums and all those who like her stuff can choose to, if they wish. I mean was it just me who was filled with terror after the reports that she was going to release an album of Billie Holiday covers (incidentaly did that ever come about?). Really.. Hmm, though I wonder who is going to play the cello parts now? Perhaps Mick or Beans can learn. But more importantly, who in the band can be subject to constant ridicule now that Isobel has left? I mean, Struan (with his 'arms of sex') and his lyrical genius is definately out. Stevie, although garnering votes for 'Beyond the Sunrise', seems too nice and (allegedly too good a dancer) to take the piss out of. Beans is too cute, and he's called 'Beans' for fucks sake. Richard's into Rock and Roll. And Mick's trumpet playing is too good to rubbish. And even *I* have a soft spot for Sarah. Hmm, Bobby? No. Its just not cricket if there isn't someone I can moan about in my favourite band. Why? Because its fun, because I'm a whinger, and because I have to have someone I can blame for some of the mediocre stuff they have put out. Its never Struan's fault, you see.... So come back Isobel. Please. We need you. Either that or hire someone crap, and then we can all be happy, as I have someone to moan about and Bel lovers can say that it was better in the old days. Everybody loves to moan, right? Or maybe thats just me. Lots of sinister love Helen P.S - To those who disagree, at least now bel's honour has been tarnished you have the chance to defend it. See, I'm doing YOU a favour. P.P.S - To those not aware of the endless debate that has raged for years on the merits of Bel, just type in 'Isobel: arse' or alternatively 'hamster', into the sinister archives and marvel at the number of hits. Or look at old posts by starry(fluffy?) sarah. P.P.P.S - Note the use of the word 'endless' in above postscript. perhaps i shouldn't start things again. hmm, I'm sure Cliff would find this interesting.. though not sure about the Dalai Lama. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Thu Jun 6 00:28:34 2002 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 18:28:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: The tacos are good. That's what's really important. Please, sour cream. Message-ID: Oh my! A few days of quietness, and New Album + Isobel = Flurry of Sinister posts! This is just another one. Okay, let's get this one out of the way. I recall first hearing "The Boy With the Arab Strap" all those years ago, and I just fell in love with Isobel's voice. And she turned out to be dead cute too. So I say she shall be missed. I don't think it will change an awful lot, but I really don't know. I came into my workplace, and my friend came up to me, put his hand on my shoulder, and said, "It's gonna be okay. Look what happened to the Clash!" I shudder to think. I read the Perks of Being a Wallflower on Sunday. I really enjoyed it. seemed very twee to me. Of course, I heard about it from the list, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Somebody mentioned why we're not angry about Isobel. The fact of the matter is, we're (for the most part, some of you are HARD AS FUCK) all sad bedroom devotees. When life gives us lemons, we just sit there and sulk about it, in the corner of the room, in a fetal position. Right? Also, people were attempting to define love. I thought they were very good. I must say, since that perfect someone (yes, i'm talking about YOU) just won't wake up and proclaim her love to me, I've found someone. I'm a bit smitten with her actually, although I probably shouldn't be. She is a Tool fan. No offense. She also has a twisted history with my friends. She used to date a girl who is both of my roommates ex-girlfriend. And I met her properly because a few months ago, she was dating a good friend of mine. What a tangled web we weave. However, I hung out with her for 6 hours yesterday, and I didn't have a single cigarette. I didn't even think twice about it. It was fantastic. We did basically nothing for 6 hours, and I didn't want a cigarette. For me, that's great. Usually, after about 2 hours I really want one. And by the 3 hour mark, I'm absolutely dying for one. I stop functioning, and all I can think about is that precious tobacco. Not with her though. Maybe this is a pre-sign for love? Maybe this is my definition for what love should be. I suppose it must be different for everyone. Although I think I'm far too cynical to ever really be in love. Or admit it, anyway. I worked in the record store monday, when the shipment of Storytelling came in. NOT that I sold them a day early (looks around for Jeepster spies) or anything, but it was great to pull out a big stack of BRAND NEW BELLE AND SEBASTIAN CD's. It's just one of the greatest feelings in the world. Or it should have been. This was about the time when the drink I had about 30 minutes before (on an empty stomach no less) started to kick in. They didn't TELL me it was their new Nicky Sixx, which is 6 layers of chocaltes and cherry stuff with 6 shots of espresso. I wasn't feeling too well after that. But I've bored you enough. I need to go back to ol' Glasgy around the end of July/early August to find a flat. Does anyone know a good resource for finding one? Or how long it will take to get one? I had more to say, honestly. But I can't remember. I've started something I couldn't finish. -Matt P.S. congrats to those betrothed sinisters. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From innerlemming at xxx.com Wed Jun 5 06:16:49 2002 From: innerlemming at xxx.com (laurel lemming) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 22:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: sinister: all the way back home Message-ID: <20020605051649.3948.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> dear sinister, the boy has just told me that he's coming into town. and my inbox has just told me that 'bel left the band. my emotions are all in a tangle. I don't know if the boy likes b+s like I do; of course, he's forced to listen while I beat the rug or wash the dishes and sing aloud, but I don't know if it makes his heart jump to hit the same notes that stuart/stevie/sarah/sssssssssmakes in the same air when singing along at the top of your lungs and dancing like a mad girl against the railings. but I forwarded him the email anyway. and brasil won yesterday 2-1, but I was watching the game from the foot of my great-grandmother's hospital bed. and my friend got a lovely high-paying job, but only after I had turned it down when they offered me $6 an hour less. one of those weeks. but the boy is coming into town. love, lem __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ann_septimus at xxx.com Thu Jun 6 01:58:45 2002 From: ann_septimus at xxx.com (Salako *) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 17:58:45 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Stretching out of the fetal position Message-ID: Sinister~ My second post in a week (I think... although I'm too dumb to actually remember)! Sorry about this to all yous who cringe at my horrible attempts at putting sentences together. Storytelling: LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT. It's so different from all their other stuff that I just absolutely fell head over heels for it. After having spent at least 6 hours with it playing, whether as the main show or in the background, I have decided it's a keeper. Most of it sounds SOOOO American, though... I haven't decided whether this is a good trait or just an interesting novelty. Too much Dylan influence?? You know you're obsessed with a band when you'll forgo the pleasure of spending time with the guy that you've had a serious crush on for 2 years so that you can hustle back out to your car to plug in your new CD. God I'm sad. Oh, well... I can dance on my own. Why is the song "F*** This S***" called that?? Every time I play it or look at the back cover I think of Spinal Tap and Nigel, who after playing a quiet, pretty 'M-ach' piano piece, decides to call it "Lick My Love Pump". Funny in the movie... not so funny when your mom proceeds to freak out at what you just spent $15 on... I discovered the most wonderful movie last weekend... Photographing Fairies. Anyone else seen it? God, it's wonderful... smart and gorgeous. Hugs to everyone~ Ann PS: Gonna do the K. Chu thing and start my own little PS war (see who I can get to leave the band :P ). PPS: Did the band make pretty posters for any other concerts than NYC and Philly? Anyone got pics? Ones for sale? *drool* I don't understand the thrill of running, Catching, Throwing, Taking orders from a moron. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shannonjeanmaney at xxx.com Thu Jun 6 04:46:17 2002 From: shannonjeanmaney at xxx.com (Shanny Jean) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 22:46:17 -0500 Subject: Sinister: tips, tips and fingertips References: Message-ID: shannyjean on the subject of tips: oh lordy, kids. the number of one-dollar bills in my collection has increased drastically in the past week. waitressing at this soulless restaurant is making me a small fortune. unfortunately, this fortune will soon be collected by parties i owe money. so i will not be rich, but i just might break even, with enough money to purchase school books in the fall. regardless, walking out the front of the restaurant with a pocket full of bills makes you feel like a gazillionaire. it's quite marvelous. shannyjean on the subject of tips: there is much advice floating around this place on matters of love, lust, grievances regarding the parted isobel, etc. the only advice i ever take is the opposite of advice given, so the whole situation seems peculiar to me. do you know what i mean? like, if i asked you, "should i wear the orange shoes or the purple shoes?" and you said, "Ummmm, what about the brown ones in the corner?" i'd probably go for bare feet. that's how i take advice. as far as love goes, first off, i find it a fishy thing to believe in to begin with. we've created a sort of religion out of love, and sometimes i think we're all fools for believing it exists at all. i'm a fool. i believe, i do i do, i love i love (a fellow named Roy at that! more about that some other, more relevant time). but i'm saying i don't think you have to believe in love to be a happy person. i think there are probably many happy people who don't believe in love. of course, then, what would we write songs about? i guess i'm chasing my tail here. end thought for the time being, i'll finish after i let it marinate for a while. as far as isobel goes, which is nowhere anymore, well, that's fine. i never got see her play. yes, of course the music will be different, but we welcome everything the band does, correct? and yes, there may not be anyone to pick on in the band, but there's always sinister. we're like trekkies, guys. that's almost weird enough. (*disclaimer: do not let that comment offend you. it is not built to offend, but rather to poke a bit of fun. *PS- if you are a trekkie/trekker, also do not take offense. i'm just a wimpy little girl.) as far as etc., goes, well. i do like storytelling. i haven't seen the film. i called the record store a half hour away to make sure they had it. this is the conversation: GIRL: This is Sam Goody, can i help you? ME: Yes, i just wanted to check to see if you got the new Belle and Sebastian CD in... GIRL: (strange strange pause.) ME: (pause.) It's called Storytelling... GIRL: (weirded out pause.) ...uh, yeeaaah, we got that. ME: Great! Thanks! GIRL: .....Suuuuure. i love love love people in pseudo-rural illinois. shannyjean on the subject of fingertips: another sparkle in the mudpuddle of my summer: i got my guitar fixed! my little guitar had needed repairs since february. it is now june. my fingers are not quite bleeding, but they are very warm. it is so so so so good to be playing again. i <3 guitars. shannyjean on the subject of miscellaneus announcements: 1. i welcomed a new plant to my room yesterday. his name is franklin. my old plant, fred, passed away this year, due to starvation. i am not a very good plant-nurturer. 2. "When life gives us lemons, we just sit there and sulk about it, in the corner of the room, in a fetal position" -> this made me giggle uncomfortably, because it is absolutely true. how embarrassing to be called out like that. :c) 3. brrr, i am cold. much love and all that riff raff, shannyjean +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Thu Jun 6 10:31:44 2002 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C Stride) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 10:31:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Last Offbeat until September... Message-ID: <3CFF3A0F.23019.2399CE@localhost> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1817 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pykachu100 at xxx.com Thu Jun 6 18:54:38 2002 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 17:54:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'd quite like to play soccer Message-ID: Hello sinister, So wassup? I'm just here drinking a red bull, watching the game. Actually I'm not, I'm here drinking a really manky cup of coffee from the coffee machine and looking at what I'm typing here right now, at work. Hope you're having fun though. BRIAN WILSON He was rubbish when he presented the Champions League games on ITV, so I'm glad that he's not presenting the World Cup. Oh wait, that's Bob Wilson. STORYTELLING (PART 1) I was disappointed, when I was at the Virgin Megastore to look for Story Telling on CD to see that, with titles such as "FUCK THIS SHIT", whether there is a Parental Guidance - EXPLICIT CONTENTS sticker. There wasn't one. The only sticker on it was one that says "Buy two CDs with this sticker on and take a fiver off your bill!" It costs �10.99 so taking �2.50 (half of a fiver) off would make it �8.49. Is that the best buy so far? We should do a Storytelling price watch. Tower Records tried to rip us off at �12.99. Can anyone beat �8.49? (Apart from the jammy gits who get copies of it for free of course :)) STORY TELLING (PART 2) I was also disappointed, that FREAK was in fact not a Silverchair cover. and that FUCK THIS SHIT was not a Rage against the Machine cover. I was delighted that WANDERING ALONE was a cover of "Just want to dance the night away" by the Mavericks. I was delighted also that, I DON'T WANT TO PLAY FOOTBALL is about American Football, rather than Soccer. Much unlike how (MY GIRL'S GOT) MIRACULOUS TECHNIQUE is about Crown Green Bowling, rather than Ten-Pin Bowling. ISOBEL CAMPBELL Bummer. I would like to express my sadness, from the Bottom of my heart. And I'd be Behind her all the way in whatever she decides to do next. Now that Isobel's quit, I wonder if the answers to the Booty hunt will be revealed soon. MISCELLANEOUS Yay I'm moving into my new place this Sunday.. fun! ARCHEL PLAYFORTH >>ps. hm, it seems to be my BIRTHDAY the day after i move, too :) Archel and I have so much in common! I'll let you do the math(s). Bdays and Red Bulls Ken _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Thu Jun 6 20:49:09 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 20:49:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: did you see the drummers hair? Message-ID: <20020606194909.95136.qmail@web14404.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everyone. Here I am again to spoil everyones day, or fill it with glorious sunshine. I haven't decided yet. Here are a list of things that have been troubling me and my entourage of space monkeys (Sean, Phil and Craig). 1. why has that cheesy "heartbeat" song just popped up on my lemonheads album. It's the real thing and not a cover. I'm scared. 2. What was Croc off of the pink windmill before Grotbags turned him into a crocodile? Was it a man? I had a weird e-mail off a friend asking, and I'm curious. 3. When you were a kid and you were watching the news (if you were a serious child) and you heard about guerillas fighting in a war somewhere, did you (like me) think they were gorillas and secretly hope they would win. Or was that just me? 4. Who was it that got a bit upset that someone slagged off the lovely Isobels supposedly fat arse because thats beyond her control, and then had a go at her for her VOICE? or am I being thick? I normally am, I dropped my mobile fully into a hot cup of tea on monday and killed it. Duh. 5. Have you noticed the back of storytelling, the woman who is getting acupuncture (i think) has got her tit out unless I'm highly mistaken. Bit racy for B&S isn't it. Closest I've been to sex for about two months though - ho ho.(please feel free to mail me "and we're not surprised either Gillon, the amount of shite you spout") 6. Was "I don't want to play football" written about the England team in the second half of the Sweden game? How did they know? I'll let you be now Take care you sexy bleeders Love Dean XX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twistlittlegirl at xxx.com Thu Jun 6 21:51:57 2002 From: twistlittlegirl at xxx.com (Matilda Liljedahl) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 22:51:57 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Some comments to all the mails I've read Message-ID: Hello everyone I feel like Mable wrote, I like storytelling in a different way than the other albums. But not less. It’s so relaxing and smooth and calmly happy. But Scooby Driver is only happy. I love that song but it’s way too short. Salako, fuck this shit is the best title! It’s funny because it’s such a kind and sweet song. But I also get the feeling that the song is about giving up. The song is like the feeling of “fuck this shit, life sucks and I don’t want to care I just want to be happy and a little sad at the same time.” Lindsey, how nice that I made you find a poem that made me a little wiser. You’re all so wise and I’ think I’ve learned something after reading everybody’s opinions about love. Thank you! Yohanca, I thought of what you wrote about love and media. I also think love is real and exists, but media is selling another kind of love. All songs are about love, all movies, all books and everything else. But it’s another kind of love, a more simple and easier kind. This makes me confused. Media is building up a too romantic too boring and too impossible picture of love with I cannot live up to and I think it’s hard to find real love when I’m so impregnated with false expectations. But I’ve realized this quite recently and now I’m on my way to find my own way of loving. Oh, right after I wrote this I read James post and I think your right (as you can see from the previous sentences) It was a beautiful and realistic definition of love. I also thought of what Yohanca write about not being smart/beauty enough. Don’t you know everybody’s smart enough and everybody’s beauty enough. That’s not the problem. The problem is self-confidence. I don’t have it, if someone does please tell me about it. Bus stopper (what’s your real name?) what do you mean you doubt your existence because of things people say? It sounds like me. I’m too open for impressions and when I talk with people I can suddenly get the feeling of that I’ve misunderstood life and that I’m doing everything wrong. It’s like vertigo. Sometimes I don’t know what I think is right so I listen too much on others opinions and since everybody have different opinions I get really confused. Goodbye everyone _________________________________________________________________ Skicka och ta emot Hotmail-meddelanden på din mobilenhet: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jamie at xxx.uk Thu Jun 6 22:10:06 2002 From: Jamie at xxx.uk (Jamie Harrison) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 22:10:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The subject on any fans lips this week is.... Message-ID: <00d501c20d9e$8930b620$9865fea9@JAMIESROOM> Hi again Twice in a week, is that a record for a shy boy? The subject could be one of two, but I've already contributed my bit to Isobel's departure, so it'll be the album then... Well it's just a quick post to share my views. I have to make a shock confession. I was really not looking forward to the new album by our esteemed group. There was something about the "soundtrack" idea, albeit in it's widest sense, that worried me. I think of the awful soundtracks of late; Blade, Spiderman and all that rock shite. (I daresay, though, that this is more in the Badly Drawn Boy league- quality.) However, I have just listened to (S)Torytelling, and it has "clicked" immediately. It's the first time actually, because all the other albums have taken some work. Don't misunderstand me, I didn't hate them, just took a little time!! I did my own bit of investigating about best buy's, but as I'm always skint, I couldn't take Virgin up on their offer. (Might have bought DJ Shadow otherwise) I got "it" from Selectadisc in Notts for £9.99 on cd, quite reasonable I thought, I'll pick up the vinyl at a later date. Then, contradicting what I said about Virgin, I proceeded to buy a selection of singles, including My Life At The Movies, by Tompaulin, any fans here? This is my kind of music.... Getting myself ready for THE game tomorrow too.......... Well that's all then Au revoir. :) Jamie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil_grayshon at xxx.com Thu Jun 6 22:16:00 2002 From: neil_grayshon at xxx.com (Neil) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 14:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20020606211600.49501.qmail@web10203.mail.yahoo.com> Hello! Sorry about this. Sometime ago, a nice man, who might have been called Matt (?), possibly from Norwich, sent me a nice tape ' a shrinking world' it came free, but he asked for some cash toward postage. I really meant to get round to sending some, but I lost the address, this has been playing on my conscience for a while now, so erm.. perhaps if anyone knows where I can send some money, please let me know! Thanks Neil xXx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vwest at xxx.com Thu Jun 6 21:36:00 2002 From: vwest at xxx.com (Vince West) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 15:36:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Isobel's fall from grace Message-ID: <3CFFC7AF.B4910674@loanlinklending.com> To address Ken Chu's statement: "Can anyone beat £8.49? (Apart from the jammy gits who get copies of it for free of course :))" After running it through a currency calculator, on-line (who knows how accurate those things are) I picked mine up in the states for the equivelant of £8.21; but, it's a bargain @ any price. Here's my $.10 on Isobel - If she can't show up for work (IE: the US tour) then fire her big ass. I know that might offend some people, but fans @ nearly every venue were short-changed by her absence. Anyway, that's all I'll say, concerning Isobel. As I said several weeks ago, I would post the B&S Atlanta gig photos. Well, I finally did; and hopefully my employer won't find out I put it on one of the company web servers. :) Anyway, the URL is as follows... http://chat.lllcinetapp.com/b&s/atlanta.htm Please forgive the crudness - I am not an artist and I was in a hurry. But, all the same, I hope you enjoy them. -Vince +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vote4dyer at xxx.com Fri Jun 7 00:34:58 2002 From: vote4dyer at xxx.com (Ramesh Srivastava) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 18:34:58 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I might have picked up the record for the lowest price! -and other news Message-ID: $8.99! (about 6 pounds 50p)! Wait, is there any sort of contest going on here, or am I full of shit? If the answer is b, then ignore the former, and move to the news. I have a job in construction. IT's a bit monotonous and hot, but the money's swell. I happen to like the new B&S album very much, especially "Consuelo Leaving." I am sad about Isobel, especially for my friend Jennifer, who is really sad about Isobel. I really like my new Stone Roses record. I could really use a flatmate at Glasgow Uni for the fall. There are hypothetical plans with another girl we all know, but I can't say I know if that's working out, as she's been out of contact. I am working to make a record that I don't know if I will ever make, though my birthday is coming up, so maybe a bit of help from my parents. They've always been great before. I have recently figured out how to get sound into my headphones from my computer, so that's lovely. I am trying to finish two books simultaneaously, which is hard, especially since I work nine to five, and then usually have beer in the university area to unwind. Isn't that called alchoholism? Hmmmmmmm..... not really. Anyway, I really like the New Order song "Temptation," and if anybody has any other New Order favorites, they should let me know. Cheers, Remy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Fri Jun 7 01:04:18 2002 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 01:04:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Famous for showing HIS chest Message-ID: <000d01c20db6$f409ff20$70c87ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, Its OK, its brief. Dean wrote: "5. Have you noticed the back of storytelling, the woman who is getting acupuncture (i think) has got her tit out unless I'm highly mistaken. Bit racy for B&S isn't it. " I don't know if Jeepster mainman Mr Mark Jones would be flattered by this reference to his body ... Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From innerlemming at xxx.com Fri Jun 7 04:41:24 2002 From: innerlemming at xxx.com (laurel lemming) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 20:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: scared to read sinister Message-ID: <20020607034124.28520.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> hello, sinister. just a little tiny post. (I don't know what the policy might be here on spoilers but I thought perhaps it might be nice if anyone talking about the World Cup matches would warn in their post BEFORE they gave away the outcome of the game, for those of us who have to watch them delayed in the states. not that anyone's done this but I am so looking forward to England *crushing* Argentina after '98 and I'd prefer not to know the score...or maybe I should just not read sinister for a few weeks?) love, lem __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayeckard at xxx.com Fri Jun 7 07:41:57 2002 From: jayeckard at xxx.com (Jay Eckard) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 06:41:57 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Hi there, y'all. This is my first post, just saying "Hello, I'm out there" or "out here" or whatever. I'd say something intensely interesting about myself, but there aren't any, really. I'd say something intensely interesting about love, but staring down the eve of my 24th birthday, I don't think I can say anything at all about it, never having been there. Hmm... Maybe I did manage something about myself. I'm glad I'm not the only one disappointed by Bel's departure. I quite liked "Beyond the Sunrise" -- too many hours studying English Lit? -- and I didn't even managed to feel gypped by her absence in American show. They *were* still very good, after all. Perhaps I should work to be surlier. ;) So is there anyone out there from the South? I'd ask about North Carolina, where I live now, but I don't want to push my luck too far. I sincerely apologise for the lack of clever screen name. Jay -- "Knowing? That's easy. Everyone does that ad nasueum. I just sort of hope." 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Fri Jun 7 09:54:05 2002 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 09:54:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: i think i'm without responsibilities Message-ID: My copy of storytelling cost.... �0.00 ($0.00, �0.00)! beat that...I got my copy free, gratis, no service charge, not a penny. I didn't even have to leave my house, it turned up on my doorstep via Royal Mail (or rather Consignia) a while ago and has since been transferred to minidisc. It now illustrates my journey on the northern line everyday. When the tubes work well, Big John Shaft ends just as I am getting out in central London. When they don't I can just start to listen to it again which is obviously a shame. For anyone who is interested there is a newish Audiogalaxy group called belleandsebastian. It's good because from there I have so far got: B&S live in Stockholm, the Paris Rex, and Amsterdam plus random covers such as The Boy With The Thorn in His side and Everyday people. Audiogalaxy is probably going soon due to the RIAA lawsuit against them. Doesn't bother me much, it's always been legally dubious. I'd better go and get rained on. The british summer is here again. p. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Fri Jun 7 09:01:42 2002 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 09:01:42 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Mr Whiplash Message-ID: <20020607080142.15071.qmail@web10402.mail.yahoo.com> Morning. At 7.46am, even Nigeria Vs Sweden is having difficulty keeping awake, so a quick post might be just the ticket. While Matthew Henderson is indeed a cosmopolitan, kooky-girl-attracting hunk, I was slightly disturbed by his repeated assertion that everyone (other than the hard kids, like Laurel, or Amy, say) on the sinister list is shy and/or twee, and the acceptance, even vindication therein. Shyness isn't per se a *bad* thing, but it can make life very difficult for those afflicted, as well as for those around them. So I feel a little uncomortable when people seem to be suggesting celebrating our shyness, or defining ourselves through it. There are SO MANY marvellous qualities demonstrated by even the self-confessededly timid people on sinister and in #sinister that it seems a shame to focus on an aspect that's so limiting. Of course, as some of you may know, shyness is something I don't demonstrate a lot of in Sinisterland. Real life, however, is pretty different, so I'm not being quite as hypocritical as it may at first seem :-) Tweeness is a different matter. I see it as a state of contrivance, and there is seldom anything good about affecting a pose. Just my tuppence'th. Anyway, lecture over, and for those of you who think I'm a self-important prick, you'll be cheered by the fact that I had a scooter accident yesterday, and blimey, do I feel sore today! Hurray for helmets, though, and for jeans and winter coats - if yesterday had been much warmer, I'd have been in a lot more discomfort :-) Oil patch, rain, swerving to avoid speeding vehicle, skid, crash, ouch. In a brief couple of seconds I've made my bike almost unsellable :/ A bit of a negative post, this one, so sorry about that. Hopefully there'll be another post along soon from, say, the delicious amykins, to prick up your passions... Ho hum, Mark xxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Fri Jun 7 08:39:28 2002 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_[Steady-State]?=) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 09:39:28 +0200 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?we_climb_and_climb?= Message-ID: Dear Sinisters >>>leaving the country<<<<< As long as Jeremy, I’m also going to leave the country...mhmhmhm.... in.....2 hours or so...So, this is going to me my last post from the kingdom at least for while, which can either be, only a week, 10 moths to be spent in the mountain infantry, or even a longer period to be spent wherever doing whatever, and might be finally learning to play football, so that I could help the sinister team to beat the vegan at in a future Sunday picnic And, even if I’m not the one who’s good in those things it is time to thank all who had meet, or I have not. Please know that I will miss you. I will deeply miss you. Take care Stefano PS[& B&S content.. for a while]: Isobel. We’ve been listening to the disappointment about Bell’s attitude on US stages, I think a kind of discomfort was even tangible in the european shows, personally I have been only at the Brixton’s one, and some friend reported about the italian gigs. We were all amazed being the first time we have ever seen B&S and obviously being something we have waited for a long long time.... and I think this is one of the problems. We as fan would love the band to be on stage, might be any single day, but what for the people on the stage? Don’t you think that all it was too much for a kind of a shy and blushing temper as Isobel? Personally I love the gentle waves record, and look forward to her future releases but most of all wish here all the best and happiness. As well as to you sinisters... I know I’ve said it already.... Luv, stef PSII: I’m going to miss the match as well as my plane is landing at 13....s**te//// Here's a prediction: when you have stories to tell, you'll tell them. D.G. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk Fri Jun 7 16:29:06 2002 From: MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk (Michael Ashbridge) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:29:06 GMT Subject: Sinister: Belle's 5th Letter to the Sebastians, 34:44 Message-ID: <672C37AB4@Blackstaff.ulst.ac.uk> So after an impatient visit to Belfast's HMV (many thanks to those who did the el-cheapo leg-work for me), I got home last night with a copy of TORI SPELLING in my sweaty palms. I managed to hold off the first play until I'd watched The Italian Job, and was very impressed with my own self-discipline. Hurrah for silly car chases. Quite soundtracky, mm hm. The theme running through the instrumental pieces is extremely emotive, very catchy. I've been whistling Consuelo Leavng all through the Eng-Arg match, while the rest of the lab screamed for Eng-er-lund to do something in the second half other than defend. Madmen, all of them. And it also happens to be 34:44 long, which, although short, is almost precisely the amount of time it takes to clear up the kitchen after dinner and make a cup of tea. Very handy. Music to wash dishes by. Very prescient of Chu to notice the Mavericks sneaking in with Wandering Alone. My own observation is that the chords opening Black and White Unite are exactly the same as the opening bars of that other modern classic, Postman Pat. True story. Sing along. All it needs is the baseline. Re Mr Casarotto's last post: it's interesting to me that these forced and repeated assertions of being "shy" are applied, willingly, with exactly the same sense of studied self-obsession that the nu-metal kids display when they make their own labels. Perhaps it's just me misjudging some of the younger listees, but it seems being "twee" is just another fashion-choice for kids, and not, as I'd thought, an unconscious reaction to one's environment or peers. Mind you, I'm speaking as one who threw out a completely threadbare TWEE AS FUCK t-shirt somewhere back in the early 90s when The Field Mice were engaged in a pitched battle with Felt for my attention. But there was a point to that, then. Or so I think. It continues to be an eye-opener, this sinister experience. Soon, if I read the portents correctly, I may even be meeting one of your number. I hope I'm forgiven if I prove to be unbearably shy in person... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jason.cochrane at xxx.com Fri Jun 7 15:20:48 2002 From: jason.cochrane at xxx.com (jason.cochrane at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 10:20:48 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i'm a blunt being smoked and i can't wake up Message-ID: <2F96BE4C7CC6D211A55F0008C7A4397604F1E66F@OHSC-EX4> Hello, My name is Jason. i have been reading all of your post for quite some time but have had little to say. So, here I enter sinisterdom..... The topic of love. I think that love does exist, for the most part. But I've yet to experience it in my adult life. I find it hard to commit to love. Love is so fickle. You can't count on it nor should you base your life around it. I think of love as a drug. People that are addicted to heroin are happy if all they have is heroin. Lovee type people are the same. I think the idea of love as a religion is brilliant. Our generation is the first to grow up without religion (particularly those of you in north america like me). We all need something to give our lives some meaning. it's a natural progression that has been in the works for centuries. God is love, love is god. Who needs god when i have love? I find myself wandering the streets looking at girls. I have noticed in my travels that 65% of all girls out in my city are cold assed bitches looking to get filled. i think allot of them have replaced the need for love with the need for approval (or is it just that I walk too much in downtown regions of metropolitan cities?). another 30% of women are hopelessly naive. I've had a hard life this i know, and i have been exposed to things that the vast majority of people never experience, but these girls are ridiculous. These are the girls that get taken advantage of, these are the girls that always end up going home from the party with the friend that just got out of jail (just so you know, massive generalizations are my forte). There is the 5% though that are truly worth your time. However, they are difficult to spot as they can appear to be both naive and cold.... but they are nothing but sweetness. My problem being that they don't like guy's like me. neither do the cold bitches... because as far as filling goes I'm not your first choice, nor the naive for they always find me too harsh, too cynical, too well... mean and manipulative. But they ask for it, she asked for it they all do. I'm starting to sound like Lydia Lunch. So i'll come off it. to tell you all the truth i don't know what love is. The sustainable kind anyway. I'm all about crushes, and I gots a trunk full of dem. -Jason P.S. Belle and Sebastian content: Storytelling = too much money for what it is. Which is a glorified EP. i won't buy it until it's on sale or something. If I'm going to pay for an albums worth of music. I want an album's worth of music. Do your self a favor and go buy 16 records from the dollar bin. Chances are you will be more entertained. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ruthmaverick at xxx.com Fri Jun 7 16:37:57 2002 From: ruthmaverick at xxx.com (Ruth Allan) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 15:37:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: i'm a blunt being smoked and i can't wake up Message-ID: Sinister. Maybe I am naive here but is getting filled having sex ? or getting pregnant? or using aerosol cream for fun? and how can jason know their asses are cold? Is that not the point of belle and sebastian to a certain extent in that they accept? from cold ass to hot totty and back to ugly as a nail again? "for they always find me too harsh, too cynical, too >well... mean and manipulative. But they ask for it, she asked for it they >all do. " Sinister I apologise for my high horse today as england has won the football, but I and maybe others ladies on the list might also take exception to this huge statement about this half of the population. it seems to apply to all metropolitan cities- the likes of which I live in and I fit none of the below stereotypes and maybe I too have "experienced some hard things" but it doesn't put me in a position to cast my cold mean spirited and misogynistic little eye over the fellows in my vicinity. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kjetil.sandlund at xxx.no Fri Jun 7 16:15:23 2002 From: kjetil.sandlund at xxx.no (Kjetil Sandlund) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 17:15:23 +0200 Subject: Sinister: greetings and salutations Message-ID: <1023462923.3d00ce0b0e033@webmail.uib.no> Hurrah (he said in Hugh Lauriean fashion), I'm out of the nursery. Feeling so adulty all of a sudden, I would consider breaking it of with Aloysius (my darling teddy), if I could stand to see him with another. Anyway... Hello everyone. Thought I'd write a few words about my self, one of my favourite subjects I'm sorry to say, as a form of introduction. I'll try not to make it to AAish. Hi, my name is Kjetil, and I'm a Belle and Sebastoholic... A reviewer in one of our tabloids wrote in his review of FYHCYWLAP that B&S was the favourite band of all "tea sipping literature students." He is of course completely wrong; I myself study art history (although I attended an English literature course at the time) and am outraged to be stereotyped. I live in Norway, more precisely the semi-delightful town of Bergen, were I do my best to waste my time and the tax payers money on a degree only fit for marriage to doctors. I've been a B&S fan since the winter of 98, when I picked up a copy of "If Your Feeling Sinister" of the embarrassing reason that the girl on the cover looked remarkably like one of my infatuations. Strangely enough I loved the music. It was the start of something new, what I like to call "A young lads odyssey of the magical land of indie-a." But now my wandering days are over (geeky, I know), or at least I have a map of sorts, so I don't get lost all the time and can return to loves old. With new determination to be a good B&S fan, I suppressed my fear of computers and joined the weird and the wonderful. So here I am, promising to post more interesting thoughts in the future. Love Kjetil P.S If we've started to discuss who could replace Isobel, I would suggest B&S got Aidan Moffat in, as a guest appearance, to do her bit on the next album. His voice has many of the same qualities. P.S.S I will now express my views on the match so Laurel, don't read on... Hurray (he said, now in a hooligan fashion, followed by a couple of "England, England") +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Fri Jun 7 17:14:45 2002 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 16:14:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: World Cup results revealed Message-ID: Hello all. Wow, and double wow. What a performance - like Italy at the back, like Brazil going forward. Trevor Sinclair is the bastard love-child of Pel�, surely. And Danny Mills. Oh Danny boy, you're more than just a thug, that's plain to see. Teddy's contribution cannot be ignored either. A stinging volley with his third touch, a player with more footballing nouse in his little finger than Ariel Ortega has in his entire body. With that kind of play we're a force to be reckoned with. It was orgasmic stuff - the close control demonstrated by the entire team, and the cool handling under pressure from Porno showed the world what a quality side we were. This was a better performance that Munich: there, Germany played shit, and we pounded them into submission. But this afternoon, Argentina played excellently, and we were better than them. The greatest moment of the game surely has to be when David Beckham broke Gonzalez' nose. Pah! Take that for '86 and '98. ++++++CONTENT++++++ So Isobel left. I was initially sad, but then realised that it's actually nothing to cry about. Only her face will be missed. I can't help feeling that it's the beginning of the end for the band (although perhaps Stuart David's departure signalled that), but that's no bad thing - they've had a Brilliant Career. My hope is they'll release one more blinding record (featuring The Magic Of A Kind Word, Lord Anthony and Miraculous Technique) to rival the genius of the first three, and then call it a day. But who knows? Not me. ++++++END CONTENT++++++ The industry of Sol and Rio at the back was outstanding, and for once, the boy Heskey wasn't shit. This afternoon we were the best team in the world. We just need five more identical performances... love Asm.x P.S. Although I understand that a lot of people on this list are a) not English, or b) totally disinterested in football, a display like this needs comemorating in as many ways as possible. ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy" - Mary Cohen _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Fri Jun 7 17:49:32 2002 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 16:49:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Big John Thomas Shaft Message-ID: I was going to talk about football results but if I do I'd have to put (WARNING FOOTBALL RESULT) on the subject line which means Laurel Lemming won't read my post and I don't want that. I then really wanted to talk about love but then the wise Jason had already talked about it to great lengths, it's just a shame that girls don't fancy him because he's too wise. Personally I'm all about those 30% of girls he speaks of who like to be taken advantage of, it's just a shame that I seem to only ever meet the other 70% or something.. actually I didn't quite understand what the split was, I didn't actually understand much but that's just me. I love Big John Shaft. Are there any other girls who love Big John Shaft? We should date. Dates and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Okay sorry Laurel but I can't control myself, if you don't want the result look away now! . . . . . . . . . . . YAYYAYAYAYAYAY ENGLAND WON 1-0 WOOOOO EAT MY GOAL DUDE etc. BTW, I agree with Sam Walton as usual.. WE BEAT ARGENTINA BY A GOAL SCORED FROM PENALTY i.e. we're better than Brazil, Italy, etc. and basically the best. Actually I shouldn't mention any of those teams since my beloved China will have to play Brazil and my other beloved team Ecuador got beated by Italians in their girlie uniforms. grr. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From applekins at xxx.com Fri Jun 7 18:24:40 2002 From: applekins at xxx.com (amy longcore) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 13:24:40 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i want to be the wandering sailor Message-ID: "i'll come running to tie your shoe" by brian eno just Qed itself up on my winamp playlist. the first note tickled my fancy. it very much made me miss karren and sandy gill, whom i met at the detroit and chicago shows. i drove them into chicago with me, and i played this song for them then. we discussed the rapture that would ensue if stevie jackson were to sing the words. yeah, that would be nice. i'd like to mention the twins, karren and sandy, as i'm calling upon them to finally post. come on girls, you know you want to :) they were made midwest famous by being hauled up on stage with the band 2 nights in a row. lucky kids. and cute to boot! it was refreshing to meet such kind, playful people. i haven't properly posted about the shows i attended. i think maybe i had to let some time pass. i'm better with reflection in writing than in blabbering the excited here and now. it would seem. it did seem so, as i'm stumped for where to begin. i could probably list as many regrets about the whole event as i can wonderful things that did happen. i even missed kirsten and mandee doing the "middle aged woman at a festival dance". it's a shame. dead shame. the detroit show was one of the greatest times of my simple life. truly. i can't say quite enough about it. i can't get over how smooth and lovely the band sounded. just charming. i was right smack dab front and center, with many thanks to shawn and emily. i played the role of girl in awe who mouths the words to every song and bounces about sillily. *curtsies* thank you, i do accept flowers! beans aftershow set rawked my booty too. literally. and don't let ree lie to you and tell you that she can't dance, 'cuz the girl can. i blew beans a good night kiss and headed back to the hotel with my friend to eat the goodies i'd picked up for the ann arbor sini picnic... that were not eaten! there was even gouda! oh, i did talk to stevie that night too. my pastiche about it prolly didn't explain it plainly enough. the storytelling pastiche i posted here after the shows was all about my conversation with stevie and how he had promised to do "happy birthday" for my friend at the chicago show the next night. it didn't happen, but as you'll read, i wasn't quite up for it anyway. besides, colin and amy took the spotlight as far as audience fun with the band goes! holy heck yeah! they were precious. i mean, being asked for your hand in marriage at a b&s show? how sweet... as far as chicago goes, i'm not going to tell the looong tale. just know that i puked out of sweet matthew henderson's car more than once. then in his post-show post he said, "amy longcore's wonderful company!", or something to that effect. bless his heart. hee hee. it was not a good day for me. the band sounded lovely, and aside from meeting so many wonderful people, i also ran into an old housemate. i was just too ill to fully enjoy it all. i even decided to sit in the balcony. i highly reccomend seeing the band up front. it's just not the same from the back. not at all. i met so many people i want to meet more of. it was like a teaser. ken is really cute. storytelling is pretty. don't let anyone tell you any differently. "black and white unite" and "storytelling" and "wandering alone" are my standout tracks. golly, "wandering alone" live is a grand thing! seeing the band without isobell makes her leaving the band not such a hard thing for me to imagine. i guess that's all i have to say about that. and good luck to her, of course! a crazy week for music it's been! new b&s release, iso leaves the band, rumors are flying about that tim and leatitia of stereolab have broken up, dee dee ramone dies, r kelley is busted for kiddie porn, night ranger are set to play my towns' summer festival, what else??? there must be something in the air making things a bit crazy and loopy right now. in my own life, i've been experiencing drama. monday i was in an auto accident. i get some bad financial news, but then i finally get a decent offer on my home that's up for sale. 2 friends of mine were attacked last night after work and could have possibly been raped. i'm doing a new job at work and having to get used to more overtime agin. what else??? big gay mark c has just warned me that he's namechecked me in his new post twice. all i have to say is, he had better be nice. and yes, that is a warning, as well as a somewhat rhyme. happy belated birthday to jennnnnnnn pb! love and hugs to all i've met and hope to meet, your queen of the run on sentence, amykins _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Fri Jun 7 18:59:58 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 18:59:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: photo jenny (and johnny) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello! Just a quick note to say that photos of the first How Does It Feel To Be Loved? night have been added to the site. In glorious black and white. Can't remember if I mentioned it, but Harvey Williams (he of Field Mice/Trembling Blue Stars fame) is the guest DJ at the next night on June 20th, so it should be a good one. Can't wait to see what he plays. More details at the site at http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk Right then, public service announcement done with, time for some rampant enthusiasm about music... I don't know if many of you are going to Glastonbury to see B&S, but if you are you HAVE to go and see Manu Chou who's also playing. He's amazing. The music is a mixture of latin, French, Spanish folk, salsa, etc, etc and it's the most joyous thing you've ever heard. If it's sunny, it's going to be perfect for Glastonbury. The Spanish lyrics are also very simple, so if you're learning the language like me then it's good for brushing up your vocabulary. See you all the week after next I hope. And for all those with Brian Wilson tickets...see you at the Festival Hall!!! xx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Jun 7 21:42:01 2002 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 22:42:01 +0200 Subject: Sinister: B&S NME Message-ID: <008801c20e63$ce60d980$a869243e@pjmillerwanadoo> Hello, my name's Peter and I like Sebastian. I don't know if anyone has already pointed these out or not, they are reviews for STORYTELLING (positive) and Looper's THE SNARE (negative): http://www.nme.com/reviews/10602.htm http://www.nme.com/reviews/10566.htm Is it really four years since Sinister went into meltdown following an England-Argentina match? Those were the days. Cheers, Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Fri Jun 7 21:54:44 2002 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 21:54:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: World Cup results revealed Message-ID: <002101c20e66$30330be0$ce8901d5@oemcomputer> Hi All, Apologies to those who are irritated by frequent short posts, but this is all I can find to say. Asm wrote: "So Isobel left. ... I can't help feeling that it's the beginning of the end for the band (although perhaps Stuart David's departure signalled that), but that's no bad thing - they've had a Brilliant Career. My hope is they'll release one more blinding record (featuring The Magic Of A Kind Word, Lord Anthony and Miraculous Technique) to rival the genius of the first three, and then call it a day." I have to disagree with his feeling "its the beginning of the end for the band", as I am confident they will take Isobel's departure in their stride & move on - who knows, it might even allow other band members to reveal more of their true talents. B&S may well change, but that change could just as well be for the better. I also doubt a "proper" release of TMOAKW, in view of what Neil said two days ago in another place (where all the information seems to be), i.e. "It's worth noting that the one that goes "Hey cut me loose", Magic Of A Kind Word, was written solely by Isobel, so it very probably doesn't tell you anything about the future. I also can't see any way it will be released now." What else? I found out today that Looper's gig at Cargo later this month has been cancelled. Bummer, not only because I would have liked to have seen them, but then also because the greedy bastards only give you the face value back, so you still end up paying loads of money for booking fee & postage. Are the other dates still on? Does anyone know the reason for the cancellation? Was it poor advance sales? Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Fri Jun 7 22:42:33 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 22:42:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: ps we won Message-ID: <20020607214233.80902.qmail@web14404.mail.yahoo.com> We fooking won against the argentinians. come on Dean XX GET THE FOOK IN XX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sat Jun 8 02:48:23 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 18:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: art; bemused musicians; randy gran Message-ID: <20020608014823.95597.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> it seems to be all the rage now, posting to sinister. so I thought I'd jump on the wagon and join in. As pigtails reported, we went to an art gallery on Tuesday in Glasgow. I'm impressed he remembered the title of the show, cos I didn't. But its sort of left me hungry for more artistic showings. In the news: I see Stuart Braithwaite (occupation= "bemused musician") got sent some exam papers by mistake. I can imagine it now. Some poor kid sitting their music highers, having their papers marked by "Blur: Are Shoite*" man himself, arguing why he is right, they are wrong, and excuse me? where is the mention of Aidan from Mogwai.. sorry... Arab Strap? 10 points deducted. (* if you live in Norfolk.. its "shoite") I haven't had the chance to buy Toryspelling yet. I did go on a spending spree last week though. i bought myself a nice officers army ladies tweed jackety thing. And some records. I went to visit my grandmother, since shes been ill. She was in hopsital, after an angina attack. So now she was out, and we went to see her. My gran has a boyfriend (or a "little old man" as she refers to him). Hes asked her to marry him, twice now. Shes said no on both occasions. Not sure if he asked her twice in case she'd changed her mind, or because he's old and forgetful. I'll give my grandmother her dues- he takes her away on holiday to foreign lands all paid, and buys her expensive gifts. Well, now shes decided shes definately not marrying him, after her angina attack. Also, its about four years since my grandfather died, and that might have something to do with it. theres also something to be learnt here- you're never too old to get yourself in a love sort of situation. If she can pull at 73, so can you, at 13, 23, 33, 43... I'm tempted to ask if shes courting.... All the news about Isobel leaving... Her voice, for all its whisperyness, had quite an impact really. Perhaps we're more likely to see Sarah singing more songs. I guess theres not much else to say. I wish I could, but my brain is feeling oddly empty at the moment. sometimes, I wish I had something to fill it up with. The art gallery worked, temporarily. It would be good though, if there were inspiration filling stations. I wonder how much you'd have to pay,and if it would be taxed. And would the shop sell little brain fresheners? right, time to go. love Kristin ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kristi_li at xxx.com Sat Jun 8 03:50:46 2002 From: kristi_li at xxx.com (Kristi H) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 02:50:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: call me morbid, call me pale Message-ID: This is my first post, so I'm a bit nervous. I know that introductions on mailing lists are often boring and self-congratulatory, so I'll try to be brief and not make too much of an ass of myself. My name is Kristi and I am originally from Seattle. Seven years ago, I moved with my boyfriend to New Jersey so he could begin a graduate program in English literature and I could look for a job teaching biology. I still, for better or for worse, live in New Jersey and my boyfriend is now my husband. I also did manage to get a job teaching science to 14 year olds. At the moment, I'm exhausted. It's the end of the school year which is a painful time to be a teacher . There is no air-conditioning in the school where I work and it gets unbearably hot and humid in my classroom. And then there's the kids......as much as I love (some) of my students, I'm ready to see them leave for the summer; there's nothing closer to hell than a bunch of 14 year olds packed into a small room with no air-conditioning. I bought my first Belle and Sebastian CD, 'If You're Feeling Sinister', about 4 years ago after reading about the band in Magnet (an indie music magazine). The first time I played the CD, I fell in love with the lyrics. Not since I discovered the Smiths in junior high had I been so blown away by song lyrics. It's funny because when I was 14, I assumed that by the time I was an "adult" with a job and a husband, I would no longer have to listen to dark, ironic songs for comfort and amusement. The older I get, the more I NEED to listen to dark, ironic songs. To quote Morrissey: "But don't forget the songs that made you cry and the songs that saved your life. Yes, you're older now and you're a clever swine but they were the only ones who ever stood by you." I may indeed be older, but I'm certainly not a clever swine. Kristi _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From halighhalou at xxx.com Sat Jun 8 06:42:52 2002 From: halighhalou at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 00:42:52 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i just remembered what made me think of all this. Message-ID: "and all the books you've read have been read by other people. and all the songs you've loved have been heard by other people. and that girl that's pretty to you is pretty to other people. and you know that if you looked at all these facts when you were happy, you would feel great because you are describing 'unity.'" hello sinister. tonight i wondered what it looked like to be me, what the people walking past my little table of light at the coffee shop saw. a girl, reading, wearing a pink shirt that read 'lindsey' across her chest. smoking occasionally, drinking some kind of urine-colored tea. i wondered if they saw the name of my book. i wondered if they knew the name of my tea. it didn't seem right that they shouldn't, having been able to, with one wavering glace at my chest, know the name of the girl in the t-shirt. the people who already knew, knew without reading, came, one by one, and sat in the empty chair across from me for a while. paused, like a comma, to talk with me about something or other. the boy who tried to help me love and failed beckoned me to the spot. i lamented, and he nodded. a girl with the same name as mine came first, with her journal and juice and copy of the queen of the damned. and we talked, and i realized how beautiful she was. how lucky i was to share a name and a moment with her, filling a space at a table and requiring no other chairs to be filled. we lamented, together, nodding. another girl with another disease stopped, standing, to remind me that i was wearing pink. people who wear pink shouldn't be sad. not so much, anyway. and then the boy, and music and borrowed cigarettes. and then nothing mattered but things already gone by, numbers and lists and tracks on eps. a radio station and phone calls, a meeting on the sidewalk or a record shop and a letter about wanting. there were others. the one who takes pictures. and the one who quietly talks of science and math, logic and purity and the essences of perfection. he told me he loved bows and arrows, and that the tightening of the string on a bow was like anything else: if impure, the target is missed. maybe it was because i was reading. maybe it was because i was almost as emo as someone else. maybe it was because i wanted to write for an audience, had a vision of me wearing great stockings and great shoes and great jewelry moving my hand horizontally through the air, talking about art. talking about visions. *** i ran out of cigarettes. later, i bought a single roll of cloves for a quarter, lit up outside the smoke shop and memorized the name of downtown after the bars. i wated while someone made a phone call, sat on a green laquered bench on the side of the street and looked over the broken swells of people leaving somewhere to go somewhere else. i heard a sound, a holler in my direction, and i looked up and across, to see a car. a piece of notebook paper with the word 'exit' in black marker was taped to the inside of the back window, and leaning out of the driver's-side window was a boy, staring at me, tongue lolling and one glorious finger pointing toward the sky. i watched him, expressionless, saying nothing but what i had been saying silently all day long. yes, darling, fuck you, too. love, lou xxx _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From puluxxx at xxx.com Sat Jun 8 12:44:10 2002 From: puluxxx at xxx.com (pulu xxx) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 04:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: just to say thank you. Message-ID: <20020608114410.55803.qmail@web9804.mail.yahoo.com> hello, i wanted to thank everyone who wrote to me (about that broken heart thing). it feels good to know that there are so many kind and caring people around. so thank you:). well, i�ve only had 2 horrible days this week. one morning i just started crying uncontrolable and couldn�t stop. mum asked what�s wrong and i said nothing. then she said there must be something, cos you don�t cry like that without a reason. so then i told her that it�s just about him. she comforted and said �oh you�ll find another boy�. some of you thought that i�m quite young, but i�m over twenty though. and yes this was my first big love. i used to be so embarrased, cos i was already 20 and i never had a boyfriend, but it was stupid though, cos i know now that there are lots of other people of my age who never have had a boyfriend/girlfriend. i don�t think it�s strange. i know what it�s like when you feel a bit insecure and don�t know what to say and when you think of something to say, the moment has already gone. and i know what it�s like when all your friends have boyfriends and don�t want to go out with you. i�ve been sort of practising to think about other boys, sometimes it feels good, but usually it doesn�t, but i know that eventually it�ll feel good. there�s this one boy at uni whom i�ve been kind of �looking�:). he�s blond, skinny and very tall. i think he looks a bit like some greek god. he has this poise that makes him look, somehow, so noble. once, when i was surfing on the net, he came to sit next to me! i was so happy and couldn�t stop smiling. so i went to b&s� homepage incase he�d know them, he might say something to me. but he didn�t say anything. oh well, maybe next time. yesterday i watched this movie �things i never told you�. lili taylor is in it. (i think she�s pretty.) in the movie she gets a phone call from her boyfriend. he wants to split up with her. then she (lili) starts to make these videotapes for him, where she tells how she feels. she tells him this joke, which she had been saving for the day they�d meet. and i thought that was so funny, cos i had these 2 jokes that i was going to tell him when we would�ve met. i told him the jokes on the phone though, and he laughed. then i told him that i had seen a woodpecker for the first time in my life, just a few days before we split up. he said he hadn�t never seen one. that i miss the most, cos i could always tell him about things like that that other�s would�ve thought maybe banal and stupid, and would�ve laughed, but he never laughed. he was always interested. ok, no more about him, i promise. i can�t wait to go back to uni. finally, after 3 years i managed to finish all those courses that i should�ve finish during my first year:), but i�m so motivated now to study more. i even passed my grammar exam. i got 2-! which means good! it�s grammar! 5 people failed though and i was certain i�d fail, but i didn�t. happy pulu:). i haven�t bought �storytelling�, cos i just bought this trembling blue stars cd `broken by whispers�. there�s one song that reminds me the cure. and makes me want to listen to them. anyways, i need to save some money, cos i have to buy a new camera. i�ll stop now. thanks again :). yours, puluxxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Sat Jun 8 12:47:12 2002 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 12:47:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Be careful what you ask for Message-ID: So, as Idleberry said, posting seems to be de rigeur these days. Lurkerdom is, like, so last month. I meant to post yesterday, as I have been saving things up to say, but by the time I returned from the pub I was quite drunk so couldn't type properly. I didn't want to get drunk, you realise, but it seemed unpatriotic not to. Ruth Allen responded to Jason Cochrane's post - both of which are too long for me to quote them here - but I have to agree with Ruth. I too am baffled as to what "getting filled" is, and exactly what IS it that women "ask for"? Sure, some women are horrible, cynical, mean and cold (-assed, in which case I suggest thermal underwear and 70 denier tights), but then that's just people in general, no? Some are good, some are not so good. I, like Ruth, am uncomfortable with the notion that a large quantity of the population are "asking for it". A loaded term, I fear, when used to describe women. Also, I have had my heart broken and been fucked over by both men and women, but I'm sure I've done a wee bit of heartbreaking myself, so don't feel myself in a position to write off any gender. My Reporting Back from the Brighton picnic is a little late and a lot redundant, but it really was wonderful. I felt quite affectionate towards people even before Stevie cracked open the Tanqueray and Archel is truly the hostess with the mostess. Liz Daplyn sadly turned down my marriage proposal, suspecting (quite rightly, as it turns out) that I was only after her cake. So, thank you to everyone who made it a great day and also thank you for not laughing at me when I fell over or was covered in yesterday's make up, or any other moments when I made a complete spanner out of myself. I bought Storytelling the other day. Hmmmmm. Can't say I'm overly impressed. Track 10, 'Storytelling', sounds, accounding to The Loved One, like a parody of B&S, so exaggerated is its whimsical wonderings, and I agree. It's twee, drippy feyness is everything that I would dislike about the band were I to dislike them. Stevie says in the sleeve notes that "this is a cracking record, maybe the best one we've made in a while...." but I shall have to disagree. But, to paraphrase what Stevie goes on to say "What do I know?" I'm disappointed with it, that's all. But it's OK, as I still have my Kate Bush cds and my girl gang to do the mad dancing with. Music hasn't failed me yet. Returning to the Glitter Mountain, Madeleine xxxx _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Sat Jun 8 14:22:18 2002 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunny set) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 13:22:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Mr Whiplash Message-ID: I often wonder what my life would be like if I wasn't a very shy girl. I wonder what would happen if I didn't retreat into my shell, in the company of other people, but actually told them some of the thoughts that were in my head. I wonder what it would like to be able to tell stories in public without blushing, or getting my words back to front, or without having drunk vast quantities of alcohol. I suspect it would be quite nice. The older I get the more I come to terms with being shy. I wouldn't say it was one of my worst features but as Mark said: >it can make life very difficult for those afflicted, as well as for >those around them. I wouldn't like people to like me just because I'm shy, but I am happy when they have taken the time and the trouble to see through this mask and know what lies underneath. It takes time to get to know people. Most people I know are naturally defensive. They all show it in different ways. Some people might talk loudly and constantly when other pressure, others may become rude and obnoxious, and others like myself might try to hide away from the problem and retreat further within themselves. None these things really define the person. Different people just act differently under stressful situations. It is easy to understand people who behave in a similar manner to yourself, but limiting the people you get to know, just because of the way they act when they are nervous, seems a shame. Tolerance is what is needed. Try not to judge people too harshly simply because they don't get things right the first time you meet them. We are all human and we all make mistakes Take Care, Rachel _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Sat Jun 8 17:38:47 2002 From: bellezc at xxx.com (Zoe Charaktinou) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 17:38:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: not much... Message-ID: Hello Sinister People... On Thursday I bought Storytelling - for £9.99 from MUSIC ZONE Birmingham, FYI- and I have been listening mainly to Scooby Driver- excellent!-, Storytelling and Fuck this Shit. Fuck This Shit is such a lovely tune BUT it is torturing me! No, really! It SO reminds me of some other tune/song BUT I can't pin it down...I first heard it in the Manchester gig and it seemed oddly familiar. Now I am listening to it over and over again and I still can't think of what is that it reminds me...has anyone else thought of it or is it just me hallucinating-again...?Any ideas? HELP! I would so much like it if the album had more songs, I have to admit...but still the few songs on it are so nice... Also, I will miss Isobel...I don't like it when my favourite bands lose members. It's just sad because , whether the split is amicable or not, it still is a sign of a certain tension/problem, me thinks. I mean, why should she want to go if there was nothing wrong? It sounds simplistic, I know but still...And I do like her voice...it adds something aetherical to the whole music. mmm I don't know...Plus I am such a soppy person...I cried when Bill Berry left R.E.M. so much, my mother thought that something "serious" had happened to me and then she gave out to me for scaring her etc. I just don't like things like that. Anyway, I do hope we hear more from her in the future. On another note, does anyone know anything about the Gotan Project? A few of my friends are into this band and I have not got a clue what they are and I just thought I'd ask my favourite music encyclopaedia-YOU!- for some feedback. These people are playing in WOMAD in Athens and I was thinking if it would be worth going to see them. OK, have fun kiddies and don't forget to watch F1 tomorrow!!! Zoe Moop ------------------------------------------------------------------ " Passivity in life, in politics, is problematic: it means acquiescing to a status quo that damages people along class, gender, racial, sexual and other lines." R. Dyer ICQ# 160565038 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Sat Jun 8 18:25:36 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 18:25:36 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: sorry Message-ID: <20020608172536.87115.qmail@web14407.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all, I know your hearts probably sank when you saw my name. Just to say sorry for my stupid, jingoistic, no-brainer post last night. excited and drunk are crappy excuses but the best i can do i'm afraid. Sorry again to anyone who took offence. Have a good weekend everyone! Dean XX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aorta47 at xxx.com Sat Jun 8 19:16:14 2002 From: aorta47 at xxx.com (mmm skyscraper) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 11:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Velveting the Underground Message-ID: <20020608181614.9618.qmail@web11807.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Sinister Since the last time I posted, I've seen B&S in Atlanta, Isobel has left the band, and some game you play with a round ball has slowly started to dominate the mailing lists and forums I look at. To me 'Fuck This Shit' sounds like 'Femme Fatale' by The Velvet Underground. I'm not sure if that holds true for anyone else. I've recently got Young Marble Giants' 'Colossal Youth', Camera Obscura's album, and the Icelandic version of Mum's new one. All highly recommended stuff. I'm hoping that Isobel's departure means that Sarah will sing more. Yea! Beware of impulse buying off the internet. Sometimes you just got to have things though. Mark NEVER A DULL MOMENT IN MID-WORLD __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_sad_witch at xxx.com Sat Jun 8 20:47:18 2002 From: the_sad_witch at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Gillian=20Kirby?=) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 20:47:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: hullo there Message-ID: <20020608194718.65292.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> I have a voice! It's like being able to vote again...> > Well, I'm Gillian, and I currently reside in that lovely place known as Manchester, where I am studying Linguistics and Sociology (a course which left me spending the rest of my life explaining to everybody what Linguistics actually is...resisting the temptation to say ' a bad idea'!) I've just been looking on the net for the postgraduate courses I want to do and getting scared at both the financial cost and the fact I'm nearly a grown-up....but much as i like being a student, claustrophobia seems to be kicking in and I think I need a change of location. The possibilities are both endless and scary....> > I like toast, tea (leaf tea has spoilt my taste for Tetleys), houmous, fun indie tunes, being cynical and sarcastic,walkmans, train journeys, singing, fancy dress parties, good books and sunshine. I suffer from depression too, which is less of a problem than it used to be, but left me feeling quite self-conscious so communicating on the internet is brilliant for me (as I can't see everybody's faces and can correctr myself when something's writen wrong!)....it's not something that's easy to talk about to people either, as they either think you're no fun to be with, about to top yourself, or saying it to get attention.It just seems to prompt random moods and uncontrollable perspectives with me. Mind you, I've found it easier to explain than letting people presume I'm just 'nmoody and bad-tempered'. Sorry, Rachels' post prompted me to say all that.> > And needless to say, I like Belle and Sebastian too.> > Now can I be your friend? :-)> > -Gillian ===== _________________________ Concrete Society Award winner 1968.. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcbots at xxx.nl Sat Jun 8 22:03:04 2002 From: marcbots at xxx.nl (marc bots) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 23:03:04 +0200 Subject: Sinister: fuck this miraculous technique In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hello there 6/8/02 6:38:47 PM, "Zoe Charaktinou" wrote: >Fuck This Shit is such a lovely tune BUT it is torturing me! No, really! It >SO reminds me of some other tune/song BUT I can't pin it down... to me fuck this shit sounds a lot like (my girl's got) miraculous technique, especially one of the chord changes (on the RA when 'she's got miRAculous technique' is sung). but someone else will probably hear something completely different. congrats with your victory over argentina. these are hard times for a dutchman, but i think i now have decided to support england in addition to korea. GET THE FOOK IN XX indeed. just came back from a holiday in italy. we were supposed to stay for two weeks, but the rain forced us back early. it was nice anyhow, we saw venice and florence and it was all very impressing and overwhelming. now i go to sleep, driving from italy has tired me somewhat (though driving the german autobahn with 180 kph is great fun!). oh, and for the dutch: b&s won't be playing lowlands. boohoo. i may still go though, but haldern is interesting too (with the notwist and supergrass, ao). bye now. love, marc +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Sat Jun 8 23:04:36 2002 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 22:04:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Odour repelling Message-ID: Hello sinister, It's been a long week. I have been listening to the Storytelling album more times than it is healthy for me. And now I have listened to it so much, I'm quite drawn to wanted to see the film, even though I know it will be a disappointment. I want to know what kind of stories it tell to inspire songs like those. At the moment I am adapting it to be my personal soundtrack. I have listened to Fuck This Shit a lot, whilst flicking through pages from the past, and remembering a summer ago when I was in bliss, when my University was over and life was so care free. Before life became complicated, before I made things complicated for myself. It was a good summer. Winter and Spring travelled through, speedily, but through a long winding path that twisted and turned back onto itself before getting back to where it started. Everything is looking the same, but feeling totally alien. Cracks everywhere that never were before, ends that used to meet, smiling faces that don't look happy anymore. Sorry that this mail wouldn't really make any sense to anybody, but I just needed to share this with an audience. In brighter news, tomorrow is a new beginning, and summer is almost here, and soon I will get to go bowling. The girls are just as bad as the boys at playing. Just waiting for Big John Shaft to come on and cheer me up now. Ken P.S.: Watching the World Cup is also no good for the health, getting up at 7:30am on a Saturday is insanity, and I'm going to do it all again tomorrow, Mexico v Ecuador! Heart attack time. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dangerous_mike at xxx.com Sun Jun 9 01:00:14 2002 From: dangerous_mike at xxx.com (michael grant) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 00:00:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: hellos, apologies, comments on the hot topics of the day. Message-ID: well hello there, oh lovely sinister. we've been a busy lot haven't we? everything's go, go go! new albums, old members, list-marriages, sporting competitions of varying interest, and the return of me! woohoo! i haven't posted in a long long time and i would like to start by saying a huge "hello" to all the sinister people i have met since i last posted, which is quite a lot. so, it's a hearty hello to: edinburgh picnic goers from way-back at the beggining of april, everyone i met at all tomorrow's parties, numerous national pop leagues and (so far) the singular winchester club, and anyone i've bumped into at some point along the way. special mentions go to the marvellous david moore who gave a strange little boy a tape of Ant in concert. this little boy thanks him from the bottom his heart. there are too many others to mention by name, but just so you know, yes 'you', you were my favourite sinisterine. also, apologies go to miss michelle ruiz of chicago. due to numerous factors (mostly centred around my incompetence and general shitness) i did not reply to her email to say i had received her sini-valentine pressies, which i did. i must say my task was made harder by hotmail deleting most of my emails a while back, but this is still no excuse for my excessive tardiness. the valentine present was lovely: ducks and a cat adorn my television, i now take notes in lectures on tiny pads with snails on the front, and i am the proud owner of a kick-ass mix cd. thank you michelle, and again, i apologise for my apalling manners. i hope you can forgive me. :o) if you send me your address again offlist, i shall lavish you with gifts to make up for it. i have many, many, wonderful things to say, but i am only got to say a few. you shall just have to wait for the rest. i've got months of posts building up in the back of my pretty, pretty head. they'll all come in time. but for now, here's a few comments on the current hot-topics. ------------ STORYTELLING ------------ justifiably bad, is how i would describe it. in the context of a soundtrack, it works very well, but in comparison with the other albums.... well, it doesnt really compare. the songs that are there are great. storytelling is a marvellous song. sarah's singing is great. my personal favourite section though is mick's trumpet. i think it is with this album that he has really made his mark. the trumpet is just sublime all the way through. the instrumentals are good, as far as instrumentals go. but i really don't think they can come close to the actual songs. however, b&s' mediocre still towers above most of the rest's best. -------------- ISOBEL LEAVING -------------- i will miss her. she write good songs, she shakes her egg-thing, she pouts, she looks pretty. i am sorry to see her go, but i would like to echo people's wishes of good fortune for her in the future. there hasn't really been much speculation on reasons for her leaving. it seems to be taken for granted that she just didnt want to be in the band anymore. but why? let's start the rumour mill going. working relationships within the band strained since her split from struan? she got upset with the use of too many guitars and not enough egg-shaking? i want YOUR most sensibel or absurd reasons for isobel's departure. chris was there to see her and bill wells support monica queen on friday, so i'm guessing it wasn't anything too serious. [like me, chris turned up too late to catch isobel on stage cos they arsed about with the timings. boo! i know people from here were there, but i didnt get a chance to post and say i would be there. if it helps, i was the boy sitting alone on the stairs on the righ-hand-side of the sound-mixy-desk-thing, making it difficult for people to get up the back. hope all who were there had a good time. monica was excellent.] ------- SHYNESS ------- "shyness is nice, and shyness can stop you from doing all the things in life you'd like to" - the smiths. i agreed with what sunny set said. "I wouldn't like people to like me just because I'm shy, but I am happy when they have taken the time and the trouble to see through this mask and know what lies underneath." "Try not to judge people too harshly simply because they don't get things right the first time you meet them. We are all human and we all make mistakes" i also feel that mr.ashbridge makes a valid point. "assertions of being "shy" are applied, willingly, with exactly the same sense of studied self-obsession that the nu-metal kids display when they make their own labels. Perhaps it's just me misjudging some of the younger listees, but it seems being "twee" is just another fashion-choice for kids." indeed. it is false to say that every 'twee fucker' is an nu-metaller inside, but it is true that some people will buy certain records, feign interest in certain bands, and wear certain clothes, which are deemed 'twee' in order to seem 'cool' or 'different' or 'alternative' in the same way that those rawk kids do. i think i probably am seen as twee, but not through any intention on my part. and that's the way it should be. i am seen as twee because of the things i like and do. i don't do and like things because they will make me seem twee. hope this hasn't been too long and boring a comeback post. i shall be moving into a new flat soon in edinburgh, and after i have done so, i may work up the courage to organise a sinister-flatwarming-picnic-thingy. i shall let people know more closer to the time. hopefully i will see people at breams glasgow farewell trip (15th. details anyone?) and at the moldy peaches (17th.) and at the winchester (21st.) that'll be me then, michael.xx _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrewnicol at xxx.com Sun Jun 9 01:46:03 2002 From: andrewnicol at xxx.com (andrew nicol) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 01:46:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: misconstrue me Message-ID: <46C545EE-7B42-11D6-82EB-00039367479A@mac.com> hello tweetards, it has been brought to my attention that a comment in my previous post was misconstrued by some members of this list. i'd like to clarify: i did not invite the girl in question to sit on my penis, i merely suggested she join us at the pub because heaven knows she looked in need of some contact beyond twitching noses with her pet rabbit. the alcohol thing became tiresome very quickly, so i've found some more valuable ways to waste my time. if anyone in edinburgh (that's in scotchland, foreign people) has a couple of hours to spare, take a look at "facing the light", an exhibition of david octavius hill and robert adamson's calotypes, at the scottish national portrait gallery. it runs until september 15. the pictures in the final section alone are worth the entrance fee, which is exactly no pence (that's british money, foreign people). i'm not going to be around for much of the summer, but some time in august or september i intend to arrange the first (i believe, someone please correct me if i'm wrong) sinister fight, because christ do some people here need a good twatting, and i'm the kind of arse that people would like to punch in the face. we'll all benefit. if anyone's interested, let me know. and to those who wrote following my previous mail, sorry i've not replied to any of you. i posted in a rare moment of pro-action, and really can't be arsed following through. yours, andy -- andrew nicol andrewnicol at mac.com +44 (0)7788 414248 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From whistlingpixie at xxx.com Sun Jun 9 01:51:14 2002 From: whistlingpixie at xxx.com (Tollefsen Thomas) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 17:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: sunny day, everything's A-O.K. Message-ID: <20020609005114.75389.qmail@web12806.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all, I'm new to the list and this here is my first post. I'll spare you all the pain of having to read some sort of intro except to say that I'm going to school in Ann Arbor, Michigan and finally got to see the band in Detroit and Chicago a few weeks ago. It was the best, they simply can't be strangers in this country anymore. I just had an interjection as to the song that "Fuck This Shit" has always brought to my mind. To me it sounds like the inspiration for the song came from the song "Midnight Cowboy" on the soundtrack to the film of the same title. It's the harmonica-heavy theme that appears a few times in the film. Maybe I'm looking for something that isn't there, however, because I've always thought that that particular song is fantastic and works so well in the film. I remember reading something when Storytelling was still in the making about the band wanting to make something like the soundtrack to The Graduate. Maybe the idea blossemed into a full on love of all things Dustin Hoffman in the 1960's. Probably out on a limb. "I'll tell you what you can do with those dishes" -Joe Buck Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Sun Jun 9 03:58:22 2002 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 02:58:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: One red M&M in the bowl and the whole bloody thing is off! Message-ID: Boy I Met At A B&S Show: I posted to Sinister once. It was to arrange a cover band and we were going to then perform at an occasional party or something. Me: Ah, I don't remember that particular thread. BIMAAB&SS: At the time, you said we could play in your bedroom. Me: Oh. Join one mailing list and find half a world cordially invited to your boudoir. Sacre Bleu! After it was all over and done with, I ended up going to three of the shows and meeting several fellow Sinisterines. There was: Nicola & Karo: I actually didn't realize I had met them until after-the-fact. I'm looking at pictures of the Boston picnic and see the attractive foreign couple which had stood behind me in line at the NYC show. I ask someone who they are and realize it was only two people who I see on-line all the time. Hello! I was the girl reading the book right in front of you in line. You asked me if the three different lines meant anything, I was tempted to lie and come up with a completely outrageous falsehood but then realized that would require talking so I simply shook my head no. Brian Krakow: Actually, he refuses to admit he owns this name anymore but who can blame him after that disastrous choice in parts of raping the pink ranger in Felicity during its first season. Anyway, this was the random boy I stood beside at the nyc show. He's was on the list four months and I remembered his posts. I've been on the list three years and he has no idea who I am. I SEE HOW MUCH YOU LOVE ME, SINISTER! Y'all should be proud of me though as I behaved rather nicely. I only flinched a little bit when he said he liked Hemingway. I didn't convulsively twitch while frothing at the mouth quoting Nabokov ("I read him for the first time in the early forties, something about bells, balls, and bulls, and loathed it.") or ANYTHING! Go me. Kirk: I actually met him on purpose - daring of me, I know. He was very kind to supply me with my ticket to the DC show. I was delighted to find out that he talks with his hands - not just little movements mind you but entire dramatizations. He doesn't just say, "My ancestors are from Sweden" - he does the motions of them crossing them ocean (he paddles), looking for a home in the new land (he puts his hand above this eyes and scouts about). Fantastic! When Belle and Sebastian play a show in my bedroom, I want him to be the opener. I almost declared my undying love to him when in the middle of the DC show Bobo the brainless wonder in front of us started jumping around wildly to impress his girlfriend or something (who knows the intricate mating ritual of the monkey boy?) and Kirk put his foot up so that Bobo's head would smack against when he came back down. Of course, Kirkus pulled his foot back before contact actually happened or otherwise I would have propose on the spot and that was already done at the Chicago show. (And we know how I like to be original.) I realized halfway through the show that I had somehow ended up between he and his girlfriend - eeep! I mean if I had known I was keeping a couple apart I would have.. laid out vertically and invited an army and national guard to help me in my endeavor. Laurel: Oh my favorite! If you haven't met Miss Laurel of the lovely hamlet of Jersey City, then you haven't lived. She is witty, clever, loves children books, and is all things wonderful. She stormed the booksellers convention with me in nyc. I've always hoped the world doesn't ever count on me to create peace or solve hunger problems if I ever come across a lamp on which to make three wishes. Though I suppose I shall feel mild regret as I sit with perfect skin and health until I am distracted my very own chocolate covered boy. Likewise, I also hoped that Laurel didn't count on me to stay with her if I had happen to lay eyes on Daniel Handler while at the show for I shall have latched myself to his leg quicker than you can yell, "Count Olaf!". However, it seemed that someone kidnapped Snicket before we could so I had to console myself with stalking Brett Helquist instead. She was quite kind to indulge me in my ways. And then there was Jayward who I already knew but he was copilot on my *first* sinister roadtrip. He's great fun probably one of the most considerate people I've ever met. But - woo boy - I wouldn't get between him and any tacky porcelain creatures in truck stops. He goes MAD CRAZY. There were others that I missed out on meeting (including Mister Matthew Henderson who gave me a shout out on the microphone at the Atlanta show - woo! and the lovely friend Sara who pines over Trembling Blue Stars tunes just as much as I.) I really shouldn't have waited so long to post as I have so much more I want to say. However, when it comes down to all the shows the best part of it were my friends I finally got to meet so the rest can wait. For now, I shall leave you with a quick list of things which have been entertaining me lately: Laura Llew's Lush List of Lusty Links: *http://sewkits.co.uk/belle.html They're sewkits which come with full instructions, needle, threads, cloth, and a cute square keyring to put the stitching in when you've finished. And they have one for the Tigermilk cover - woo! *http://wso.williams.edu/~dgambrel/catgirl/cgscout.gif Campy Casarotto introduced me to the CatandGirl cartoons. Oh so clever. *http://www.keenmacpubs.com/home.htm You can either get me this or the globe that opens to reveal a mini bar that mori luggage makes. I'm not a lush but how I aspire to be. Forever yours (or until supplies last), Laura ps - welcome to Jay who is from North Carolina too. Whoot! _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Sun Jun 9 10:41:21 2002 From: lulou at xxx.org (lulou) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 10:41:21 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Storytelling... Message-ID: Hi everyone We have had this email from insound - we don't normally endorse things via sinister, mainly due to the paltry sums involved (joke), so we are just passing this on. It doesn't beat Ken's magnificent 8.49, sadly. "i was just checking out your belle and sebastian site. I wanted to see if you would be interested in doing some special coupons for members of your site from Insound in celebration of their new album. if you wanted to send it out to the site members that would be excellent. we are just doing it to celebrate the release of belle and sebastian's new record. hope that is cool with you all. Anyways, the coupon code is "storytelling" and it is good for 15% off http://www.insound.com/annex/searchperfect.cfm?query=INS14069 John Thomas Beachboard johnb at insound.com Insound 149 Wooster St. 4th Floor New York, New York 10012 (212) 777-8056 ext.26 (212) 777-8059" Cheers Linda +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From l1amafarmer at xxx.uk Sun Jun 9 16:06:31 2002 From: l1amafarmer at xxx.uk (James) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 16:06:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: just like honey Message-ID: <001801c20fc7$5630c320$3ead87d9@heyjupiter> hello everybody! hope everyone in sinisterland is good on this fine day. things have been very hectic lately, what with Isobel calling it a day and the new album being really rather good... well, maybe not hectic, but eventful nonetheless. I think the band have changed a lot recently, in very subtle ways. But at least the new album was good; i was worried that they'd not have done so well when they were making music for someone else. so, i went to London to try and forget the project, which, wouldn't you know, i now have to repeat. (I'm sure the evil perpetrators of computer programming languages will eventually get their comeuppance, but until then I'll have to stick to my voodoo dolls... oh, and therefore many thanks to Cay, Simon, and the badly drawn girl for keeping me sane, relatively speaking of course.) London, as ever, was quite fantastic, and the vast amounts of bookshops kept me grinning as i sauntered about with my London-mates in tow. but carnaby street has turned into a tourist trap, and they took the really big spider out of the Tate modern... grr! aside from my weird obsessions with strange art and books however, i was also introduced to the quite fantastic Mr Chu and Miss Longmire, both of whom were very personable, amusing, and didn't take the proverbial too much when i'd had a lot to drink at the utterly wonderful Track and Field night in Farringdon. apparently one of the blokes from the trembling blue stars was there, and idiot here didn't realise. But speaking of music, i was wondering, not to start a thread, if anyone else had noticed that pop, that dreaded little freeze-dried commodity, has become much, much worse of late? i only noticed when my mate Ron compiled a rather thorough 'best of kylie' compilation, and crap though much of it is, it's nowhere near as bad as some of the utter bilge we've heard of late... maybe it's just me. I felt that the pop-idol people should have been imprisoned, at least! Well, sorry for going on, sorry if i should have written to you and i didn't, and thanks for listening. or reading, I'm never sure which is quite right... James +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Jun 10 00:09:06 2002 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:09:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ken: An Early Letter, Man. Message-ID: <000201c2100a$aac43d20$f6c87ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, Happy Birthday Chu You Happy Birthday Chu You Happy Birthday Dear *** Happy Birthday Chu You *uck This *hit sounds a bit like Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head to me, but I think I have said that before, so sorry. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fbrito at xxx.br Mon Jun 10 01:37:24 2002 From: fbrito at xxx.br (Fernando Brito) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 21:37:24 -0300 Subject: Sinister: What do you do when you think people have more fun when you're not around? Message-ID: Hello! How are you, sinister?! I'm terrible! But I don't want to bother you with my problems anymore... so this is going to be a quite happy post. First a warm welcome to Gillian... Welcome, Gillian! I'm sure we'll become friends, you came to the right place! You know, some of us are quite like you, being self conscious and depressed, so we already have a lot in common! Thanks to B&S for joining us! They deserve the Nobel prize of medicine! Now my atempt to bring you some cheerful stuff... I'm really proud of being brazilian today! You see, we are a very benevolent people. We could have crushed China... but what for?! And Viva England! I wanted to buy the english shirt, especially the red one, it's beautiful... but it's too expensive, and I don't even have the brazilian shirt... Just in case you haven't noticed yet... I shaved my head!!! Wow! And it's like I don't exist anymore! HAHA!! I had a kind of long hair, it used to cover my ears, and I didn't cut it for about 6 months, except on my nape, my mother cut it twice, cos I didn't want to be a mullet boy... My brother once told me I looked like Richard Ashcroft! And I girl told me I looked like "that guy from Oasis"... well, I suppose it was Liam! ...ahem... Now I look like Casper, the friendly ghost! It's like I don't exist! Everytime I took the subway or the bus, or when I was just walking down some street, there was always some girl who looked at me... you know, looking interested! For me it was nice but I never really paid much attention to that... I'm terribly shy, and those girls were just walking by, nothing could really come from just staring at a girl for a few seconds! But now... it's like I told you, it's like I don't exist! I'm ugly!! People don't look at me anymore! Well, except when they look at my clothes, because they're weird or because they're nice, or sometimes because they're thinking "poor boy, who bought him those paints?!". Anyway, now I'm ugly! My head is too flat! And I don't exist! But, hey, let me try and stop writing only about me for a while, let's talk about... hmmm... Belle and Sebastian. You know that band Belle and Sebastian? From Scotland... ??? Yes! That one! That's it, the twee band! First Isobel Leaving the House... No surprise for me. I once have read this on NME, and then I thought that could also be suitable if related to B&S: "It's coming out under my own name," she (Isobel) says. "I'm a little bit older now and I was sort of thinking, 'Why hide behind something?' I've always had so many different people playing on my records; there's no point in pretending it's a group. It's just a lot simpler really." She was talking about Gentle Waves but... you know... So... all in all, I think she wasn't indispensable for the band... I fell in love with them when they came to Brazil and she didn't even come along. So all I can do is wish the best of luck/lock/lick/leak/lack to Isobel 'Brian Jones' Campbell! Goodbye Isobel, have a nice life! Maybe I'll buy your next album. Maybe I won't. Too bad if they're not going to release The Magic of a Kind Word in an official record... I love that song. S-torytelling... They said the album would be released on the 3rd of June in Britain and ROW, and on the 4th of June in USA. Today is 9/6 and I still haven't found it here in this bloody country! What country is this which is not Britain, USA or ROW?! As once said Gen. DeGaulle, "That cannot be a serious country"!! But I don't mind, I have been listening to my CD-R bootleg for about a month and it's enough for me until I find the official. It only lacks Jersey's where it's at, which I suppose is a dialog... Well, who cares about a dialog? Perhaps if it was between Sturat and Isobel... And people's been talking about prices... if you come to Brazil you will know what is a cheap album... here it costs about 20,00 reais... or 5,20 pounds... or 7.60 dollars! Is it cheap or is it cheap?! Yes it's cheap, but only for you, in case you bring your money. For us it's like you had to pay 20 dollars or 13 pounds. A salty price, as we say. OK... that's all... poor post, but from the heart. Oh, welcome to everyone else... Kristi, Thomas, Kjetil, Jason... And kisses and hugs for all Fernando Brito +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clairk at xxx.edu Mon Jun 10 02:58:26 2002 From: clairk at xxx.edu (clairk at xxx.edu) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 20:58:26 -0500 Subject: Sinister: a discourse on brian mcbride, or, saying "hello" Message-ID: <1454090437.1023656306@RIVENDELL> Hello, sinister. My name's Kevin and this is my first post, and I'm pretty happy today. Right now I'm listening to the Dismemberment Plan, which always puts me in a good mood. I rather like their last album, and I think "The Face of the Earth" might be one of my favorite D-Plan songs now. I missed them when they toured with Death Cab For Cutie because it snowed that day and I couldn't drive to Chicago. Oh well, such is life. I'm done with school now, which is good because I don't have to deal with silly things like finals anymore, and those have pretty much dominated the last few days for me. Now I get to look forward to summer, which I'm spending right here in Minnesota. A bunch of my friends will be in town, and many of them will have cars so trips to the Cities will be plentiful. It's not Chicago but it's acceptable. I heard _Storytelling_ for the first time a few days ago. I wasn't expecting too much out of it, since it's a soundtrack and I heard from lots of critics that the movie sucked. Although I did like "Wandering Alone" when they played it at the Chicago show. But the songs were actually really good, and I guess as a whole the record exceeded my expectations even though the spoken bits are stupid. Now I just need to wait until Friday when I get my paycheck so I can actually buy it... I'm also happy because my World Cup teams are doing well. I'm following three closely; South Africa because I'm studying it to get my degree, Ireland because it runs in my blood, and the U.S. because I live here. The U.S. plays tonight, of course, and per tradition I'll be slaughtering my sleep schedule to stay up until 3:30 watching it. This has become a ritual for me of late; that Mexico-Ecuador game last night was better than I thought it might be after the first half when nothing happened. anyway. I'm getting longwinded. So much for brief introductions. ^_^; --kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Mon Jun 10 08:14:50 2002 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 08:14:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I don't want to watch football... Message-ID: <20020610071450.23977.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com> ... It did, however, prove a lot more enjoyable than work on Friday afternoon. A successful penalty and the subsequent frantic defence in the second half provided more of a giddy thrill than data integrity problems ever could. But football's still a load of poo. So I bought Sorry Smelling at the weekend. Not sure whether I like it or not yet - I think it's a 'grower' which is good but the other albums grew on me in the time it took to play through once. Sign of a band maturing Y/N? Wandering Alone is nice though - it'd be right at home on Wake up to Wogan. This is a GOOD thing. Casarotto and Llew have both bigged-up Cat & Girl. This is because they wonderful human beings with impeccable taste - C&G does indeed rool. Dorothy Gambrell's site at http://wso.williams.edu:8000/~dgambrel/ is worth a peek as well. Especially the Thomas Pynchon paper dolls. So anyway, Robster http://liquid2k.com/robster75 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jason.cochrane at xxx.com Mon Jun 10 14:21:11 2002 From: jason.cochrane at xxx.com (jason.cochrane at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 09:21:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I drop some shit like some horses, imitate your mind state have y ou split like divorces Message-ID: <2F96BE4C7CC6D211A55F0008C7A4397604F1E67A@OHSC-EX4> I think i need to clarify something. I may be a bitter shell of a man, but I don't hate women. I certainly didn't mean to imply that I hate any of you, seeing as I don't know anyone on the list. I just have a problem with the culture that surrounds me. I am just describing my city which is Toronto as I see it. I know it's a sweeping generalization. But what am I supposed to do? be affraid to make broad statements? I would never make such ridiculous comments like "she wanted it, they all do" in any sort of serious context, it was more of a play on that whole rrriot grrl deal ala Lydia Lunch that went horribly wrong. Of course how would any of you know that, without me telling you. So I can see why I may have been taken as a bit of a misogynist. I'm still getting used to this whole internet anonymity thing. I just take it as a given that no person would say such things not in jest. Apparently "cold ass bitch" and "getting filled" are not terms used the world over. I learn something new everyday. For reference a "cold ass bitch" is a woman or young lady who tends to be on the superficial side, and cares little for your feelings or the feelings of those around her. Not to be confused with the "MHB" (or money hungry bitch) who cares for your feelings as long as the money keeps flowing. "Getting Filled" is typically looked at as sex without any emotional meaning what so ever. Although in some circles it also alludes to particularly violent anal sex. Hope that clears it all up. have a nice day, Jason +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AMEBIX13 at xxx.com Mon Jun 10 19:59:16 2002 From: AMEBIX13 at xxx.com (AMEBIX13 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:59:16 -0400 Subject: Sinister: ...I'm feeling sinister Message-ID: <663B13C8.35148612.0063F0F2@aol.com> Hello there all you lovely Sinistrines! It's seems that tons of people who haven't posted in ages, have started again, and well, I'm no exception...so much for trying to be different. Seriously though, I've been meaning to post for a couple of months now, it's just, well, that I'm lazy. So does anyone remember me??? Well, just to refresh your memories, and for all of the lovely new people...My name is Sean, I'm from baltimore, although may not live there for all that much longer...more on that later. I like lots of things, books, baths, educational television, singing in my car (and my shower, when the roomate isn't around.) Hehehehe, if you want to know more, by all means email me! I love hearing from people. And it really is exciting to see all sorts of lovely new people on the list. First of all I want to give a HUGE congradulations to Rachel Frootloop and Ben Apps!! Wonderful news!! So, yes, I have been enjoying life on my own lately...my house is quite liveable, although my lack of airconditioning is ! worrying me a bit, with the swampy Baltimore summer bearing down on me. I saw B&S in Philly not to long ago, and well, it was amazing...as silly as it may sound, hearing them play Sleep the Clock Around made me cry. *blushes* I have not yet heard the new album, but in light of the mixed reviews it's been getting, I've decided that the best thing is to go buy a copy of it, and make up my own mind on it. So yes, onward to the possible change of location that I alluded to earlier. It's a bit late for this, but I have decided to transfer schools, and switch majors, and I have finally, after some very intense and advanced brow furrowing made my short list of places I will apply to. I've decided upon University of Rhode Island, Stevens Institute of Technology right outside of NYC, and last, but certainly not least...The University of Glasgow! I am certainly hoping for the last one to come though, but only time shall tell...and I think I would be happy at any of the places I ju! st mentioned. Do any of you have any experience with any of these places, if so, I'd love to hear about it. I suppose that is it for now darlings, but I think I will be posting more frequently these days...Bye bye everyone. And an extra-special welcome to Gillian! *waves* Hugs and Pink Flamingos, Sean P.S. - Ex-Sinisterines Elise and Jimmy are doing grrrreat! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brazilp at xxx.ie Mon Jun 10 21:09:29 2002 From: brazilp at xxx.ie (trish delish) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 21:09:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: uh oh Message-ID: <3D05270C@ntserver-e2w2.tcd.ie> hello all since we're in a flurry of posting, i thought i'd add to the noise.... just saw this review on nme news, i think it all sounds a little odd http://www.nme.com/news/101994.htm "ear splitting noise"? fuck this shit, bel's gone mad! trish delish +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Mon Jun 10 21:23:53 2002 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 21:23:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: COS JERSEY's WHERE AMERICA'S AT Message-ID: You know "Storytelling" the album? someone told me they'd downloaded it from one of those interweb sites and listened to it and it wasn't that good. In fact he bandied round phrases like "The Least Good B&S Album". But you know what, I went and bought it the other day, and I love it. I love "Storytelling" the album too. It has nice soundtracky piano/harmonica driven bits, and some songs that are very nice to listen to. What is odd about it, and maybe the cause of its not being liked that much in certain quarters, is that a lot if it doesn't really sound that much like B&S. I mean, it isn't full of Stuart Murdoch sung tracks about unpleasant things that happened to him at school, say. And the whole world of instrumentals is a bit of a leap for our favourite band. No, I like this record. Soundtracky records are often seen as being a bit wallpapery, but this has nice music to lose yourself in. I wonder why Todd Solonz used so little of it in his film, which I've never seen. Incidentally, the downloader decided on subsequent listens that actually "Storytelling" is a good record. Probably because he is a complete and utter dirtwad. In other news, The Pinefox is still coming to Dublin. I reckon we'll be going to The Palace on Camden Street on Sunday, although if you are planning on coming along I recommend mailing me off-list so I'll let you know what's happening. Apparently the Pinefox fancies himself as a bit of a scrapper, so if you fancy a fight the Palace is the place to go. praise Tobit. the Dirty Vicar +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Mon Jun 10 21:50:57 2002 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 21:50:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sorry, I've gone mad Message-ID: sorry for two posts in one evening. thanks to Trish Delish for pointing out that I said we would be going to the Palace on Camden Street next Sunday. WE WILL NOT. only mentalists go there. we will in fact be going to The Palace on Fleet Street. you know, the one various Dublin literary figures drink in. I am such a fool. DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Mon Jun 10 22:54:01 2002 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 22:54:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Truth stranger than fiction? Message-ID: <20020610215401.88652.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> "Fair Isabel, poor simple Isabel!" If only Keats had realised quite how prophetic his words (pub. 1820, fact fans) would turn out to be! For I shall now narrate for you the true story of our modern Isobel, whose cello will surely become *her* Pot of Basil, which her tears will keep "ever wet." But who is that mysterious person who said "’scape at once from Hope’s accursed band...?" The scene: a hotel room, somewhere in the American Midwest. The telephone tinkles. The alabaster arm of our Scottish heroine emerges from under a puffy eiderdown and crisp white sheets. Isobel: Shit, where’s that fucking phone? The delicate fingers fumble around the bedside table, knocking a glass of Perrier onto a bowlful of untouched granola, before finding and lifting the receiver. Isobel: Hello? Bill Wells: ‘Ello sweetheart, how are you? Isobel: Bill, you lousy bastard, you woke me up! Bill Wells: But Izzy, darling, I’ve got the raging horn and I just had to phone you. I thought you could, y’know, help me get it out of my system. Isobel: Oh Bill, you’re so funny. Bill Wells: I fooled you for a second though, didn’t I? (Hey reader, were you fooled too? Well the author ought to say that she had considered making Bill and Bel enjoy an ecstatic, virtual, transatlantic SESH, but frankly, the thought makes her feel thoroughly queasy, so she has chosen to employ a *cunning* plot device to avoid producing a puddle of vomit on the floor of her flat, which would be a bugger to clean up, especially from the gaps between the floorboards. Back to the story...) Isobel: (simperingly) Ha ha, Bill, you’re so funny. Not like those boooooring band mates of mine. Do you KNOW what they want to do today? SOUNDCHECK. Can you belieeeeeeve it? Bill Wells: Oh, my little Belly Button, they *are* awful. You know, you’ve been propping them up all these years, you’re the one with the talent, you know. Isobel: (simperingly) Do you think so, Billy Goat? Bill Wells: Of course! Your songs are so obviously the best, you sing far better than the others and nobody can play the cello *quite* like you. Isobel (simperingly) But Silly Billy, where would I be without them? Bill Wells: What? WHAT? Where would they be without you? That is the real question. Let me give you an example. I firmly believe they would never have got to number fifteen in the hit parade without your outstanding efforts on Legal Man. I mean, that video was GENIUS. Isobel (falteringly) S..S..So, what should I do? Bill Wells: Leave the band, Bel. Leave them now! Isobel: Are you serious? Bill Wells: Deadly. Isobel: No! Bill Wells: Yes! Isobel: Alright, you win. Sod soundcheck, I’m going SHOPPING! Isobel puts down the phone, leaps naked from her bed, pulls on her pencil skirt, kitten heels and flouncy blouse (note: no underwear, that tart!) then grabs her handbag and makes like Carrie out of Sex and the City and heads downtown. ********** Another room in the same hotel, somewhere in the American Midwest. The telephone tinkles. An ARM OF SEX reaches across a desk and lifts the receiver. Struan: Hello? Bill Wells: It’s me. The job’s done, she’s gone. So... am I... in? Struan: Well, we need to keep it quiet for the moment but... you did say you can play the cello, didn’t you? FIN Disclaimer: Look, I didn’t get much sleep last night, OK? Juicy Lucy ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sillylorna at xxx.com Mon Jun 10 23:09:53 2002 From: Sillylorna at xxx.com (Sillylorna at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:09:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: Glastonbury.. or no Glastonbury? That is the question! Message-ID: <11a.1227ffc6.2a367db1@aol.com> Glastonbury.. or no Glastonbury???!! I can't decide!!!! I've been offered £300 for two tickets, but i wanna go, then I would like the money (cause I is skint) but then I wanna see B&S and all the other great bands..arghhh! Lorna H. PS: Help! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mary_goodshoes at xxx.com Mon Jun 10 23:45:26 2002 From: mary_goodshoes at xxx.com (Miss Marianna Longmire) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:45:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B+S in poster promotion shocker! Message-ID: I'm seeing things you know. B+S posters to be precise. Everywhere. Never in my life did I expect to see six on my way to work. At which point I express great joy over this discovery, only to find my colleagues (who generally walk the same way as I from the tube), have failed to notice any of them. They then stare at me with blank expressions and query just what it is I'm talking about. These are the same people who start every conversation with me by asking if I've been to any Belle and Sebastian shows over the weekend. Memorised a topic of conversation yet?! Bah! Regardless, it's been quite a day for B+S paraphernalia spottage. Walking home from Bethnal Green, a carefree gent strolled past me sporting the lovely ladies t-shirt. I wanted to stop and comment on his attire but alas, by the time I untangled my headphones from my lapels, he was gone. Happily, I walked a bit further and found some graffiti near London Fields. On a billboard, there was a line drawing of the cover of FISHYCLAP. Further on, amongst the "Anna sucks JiZZ" and "Sikhs rock" scratchings, "Le Pastie De La Bourgeoisie" was scrawled on the walls in the ghetto. Honestly. B+S fans down Hackney way. I wonder chu could have done that. Speaking loosely of clotheage, the inimitable Mr G Pallis once asked if it were acceptable to wear the same outfit twice, even if you were unlikely to meet those who had seen you wear it before. The obvious answer is no. Nicole* wouldn't be seen dead wearing yesterday's Vogue must haves, and neither should you. It helps to create an air of (insert style of choice here) elegance about you and instantly transforms you into someone cool and popular. Your wardrobe should be as fresh and fascinating as The Basic Eight 's opening chapter. I of, course can only aspire to such things as a) I am poor and b) I have a nasty tendency of falling in love with some random dress or jacket or red Mary Jane shoe and tend to wear these far too often out of infatuation before tiring and tossing them aside. Damn it! I will never be hip. However, an old friend of mine once wisely said that if you wear the same outfit often enough, people are more likely to remember who you are, and they're even more likely to think you are someone of interest to talk to and will subsequently buy you beers in exchange for conversation. He was a wise boy. He also wore the exact same outfit for the entire time I knew him. Three years. And I doubt he's changed it since. For a time I was convinced he had rows of identical outfits in his cupboard a la Bruce Wayne. He always did have a fondness for old school Batman comics. xx Marianna * Nicole being, of course, the most fantastic bitch troll from hell in Popular. You should all aspire to live your lives by the law of Nicole. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Tue Jun 11 00:43:00 2002 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 19:43:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: sinister: t-shirt weather Message-ID: <2B28BC08.2E6EA952.0B7F097A@aol.com> It is insanely hot in Korea. Yes, ladies and gents, I have made my return to my parents' homeland where Belle and Sebastian the band don't reside, but there is a cafe named B&S. I will be taking picshures and maybe sending them into Honey. Kudos to Ms. Alder for a fantastic rendition of 'Bel Leaves the Belles. It made me laugh and tumble about. I hated Storytelling. Sorry, I just did. I hated Early Letterman, and I hated Fuck This Shit, and I hated the song about Jersey. I hate New Jersey. I lived there in America's armpit for quite a while, and loathed every moment of it. (Am I going to get kicked off the list now?) Right-o, I'm taking my leave now. cheers h +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From birosaregreat at xxx.com Tue Jun 11 01:09:42 2002 From: birosaregreat at xxx.com (James Danson-Hatcher) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:09:42 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Only started happening a few days ago. First I thought perhaps I've just become fixed in a find of "got-pissed-quite-bad-last-night" sort of peacefull daze, then I've been sitting around in perfectly normal places and having these brightly coloured moments where a smile spreads over, not from feeling I should but that there is genuine hope that my dreams WILL happen if I push hard enough, as this is not always something controled by us, and from realising my world is actually quite as beautiful as I tell myself. I knew that all along of course and was very grateful, it was just very hard to see and enjoy. My sister and I had a conversation and she clearly could see how delicate a situation it is to enjoy this as I've no idea how long I'll be above the clouds this time. Delftware sky and melted tar on the roads. Summertime that I always think of on down days could happen soon and against all good(village folk) advise, I will be in London as of next month. I'm thinking that I'll have so many people around me and be unable to have empty months again, I barely think I'll have an empty moment, look!I'm smiling up to my eyes again. I've even managed to shake off a silly concern I've had. It's of writing with blue ink and is a very awkward thing have worrying you. I think I can say it: I'm getting over the empty feeling and over the lonely one too, think I could let stuff touch me again. I also think I could really love someone too. That should be nice. No, actually that would be the best thing ever. James Danson-Hatcher _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kchu at xxx.uk Tue Jun 11 15:26:24 2002 From: kchu at xxx.uk (kchu at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:26:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bog on stilts Message-ID: <80256BD5.004F54B5.00@daimlerchryslerservices.co.uk> The end is sowing seeds Your Insides torn apart This is when you'd need The boss of Kwik-e-mart What is the gap between the floor and the bottom of toilet cubicle walls for? Is it really for passing toilet paper between cubicles, in case the unthinkable happens when you run out of toilet paper after a poo? Or is it for spying on other people? Is that why the toilets in our office have marble floor, that reflects? Is it a lack of forward planning or was it the delibrate work of a devious, perverted interior designer? And how inconsiderate are people to choose the cubicle right next to yours, when there are plenty others available? Excuse me sir but maybe I don't want to see your silhouette of your distorted poo-pushing face! And now I have to control my flow to keep the volume down, or else I just know that I'll be walking out at the same time as him, and he'll tell everyone and I'd be known as the "Plonk Plonk man" of the office forever just for dropping heavy poo into the WC. Of course none of these are as bad as two summers ago when I was in one of those cubicles having a quiet poo, and I had the pleasure of being the spectator of a man shooting an aeroplane inside the next cubicle.. it wasn't very nice. >From the scatological to the sartorial.. Miss Marianna talked about outfits, and the need for not wearing the same clothes twice, and following the examples of Nicole, of Popular fame. But I would have to agree with her friend instead, that everyone should follow the examples of Dr Quincy M.E., of Quincy fame, and wear a brown suit that you'd never ever change, and just see how well-respected he'd become! Most well respected figures do it too, see Superman, Spiderman, Obe-wan Kenobi. Saying all that, I would change more often if, for example I can afford clothes. I wore a very nice T-shirt last night that had four monsters on the front, with the word "monster" written underneath. Then I danced to really terrible music in a club in Milton Keynes, to celebrate my Birthday like a soul boy - I even did some soul dancing, and also had a DANCE OFF with this guy who was quite a dancer but I think my DENILSON DANCING routine blew him away, or maybe he just walked off because I trotted on his toes. I should have stuck with graffiting in Hackney.. and yes, ANNA REALLY DOES SUCK JiZZ! Ken * DENILSON DANCING is based on the Brazilian football player Denilson, who always does this trick which is like a funny version of the Can-Can over a football. Roy Atkinson calls it a "lollypop", because he's a weird arther trucker. P.S.: The Dirty Vicar said: > Apparently the Pinefox fancies himself as a bit of a scrapper, so > if you fancy a fight the Palace is the place to go. It's no joke - I've seen him fighting in a club in Glasgow last year, Lennox Lewis eat your heart out, he was a ferocious arther trucker. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk Tue Jun 11 17:09:28 2002 From: MTJ.Ashbridge at xxx.uk (Michael Ashbridge) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:09:28 GMT Subject: Sinister: Fu*k this Sh*tty Summer Wine Message-ID: <67249D32F9@Blackstaff.ulst.ac.uk> I don't want to watch World Cup I don't understand the point of it all I don't want to watch football I don't understand the thrill of sitting in an armchair Screaming at the television Cursing other human beings Just because they're from a different place Sugar, I'd rather watch a different sort of game Sugar, where men don't kick what used to be a cow That's what I was going to say, but since I've just sat through the whole of the Ireland-Saudi Arabia match, screaming support and abuse, all oOOH! and aAAHHH! in harmony with the rest of my office, the point is rather moot. I *do* live here, though, and it would surely be a crime *not* to show a little emotion, no? And it *was* a crucial match. Am I convincing anyone with all these *emphatic* *excuses*? It is different, though, the world cup. For a start it's about the countries and the game, whereas the year-in, year-out nonsense is nothing but politics. And the WC (?) is finite; three weeks and that's it for four years. I can relate to that, even if it is sometimes just an excuse for legalised xenophobia and grunting tribalism. Still, that Saudi 'keeper. How much shit is *he* in when he goes home? I can hear that axe being sharpened even as I type... I think I'll have to rent Solondz's Storytelling after all. I read the reviews at the time and wasn't moved to make the effort of going to the one cinema in this little country (Northern Ireland) that was showing it. I did enjoy Happiness, but I knew I'd only be going to hear four minutes of a soundtrack I knew I'd buy the week it was released. Ho hum. I think I'm gaining a little perspective on this band after all. In previous years, when people criticised their work, I remained blind to any imperfections, utterly incapable of appreciating any opinion that conflicted with my own. And even though I was aware of that, it made no difference. But after a weekend's listening I can appreciate why people like Miss McNeil have difficulties. First or second time through I was thinking that it was an EP with delusions of grandeur, but it's a slow-burner, I believe. Some of the dialogue is a little unnecessary, but perhaps seeing the film will add a little extra context. And that I am now able to accept the criticisms, I can't decide whether it means that this is a partically flawed, pseudo-album, or that my taste is maturing. Nevertheless, and to paraphrase someone else, the Belles at their most mediocre would still tower over many of their peers. Enough waffle, I have a thesis to finish. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Tue Jun 11 18:04:49 2002 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Caitlin Pigtails) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 18:04:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Silver Nitrate Message-ID: <20020611180449.A4549@candle.btinternet.com> Andrew Nicol said, in the dim and distant past: > if anyone in edinburgh has a couple of hours to spare, take a look at > "facing the light", an exhibition of david octavius hill and robert > adamson's calotypes, at the scottish national portrait gallery. the > pictures in the final section alone are worth the entrance fee, which > is exactly no pence. I've been to this exhibition a couple of times now. The first time (before I read this post), I was slightly disappointed. The second, slightly less so. For those of you who aren't interested in photography -- hey, what sort of list is this anyway? -- Hill and Adamson were extremely early photographers, and were certainly the first in Scotland. Mr Hill started in photography so that he could use portrait photographs as studies for paintings; Mr Adamson, much younger, seems to have just been Inspired. Over a couple of years, until Mr Adamson's death, they took several thousand photographs, mostly portraits. If you forget all of the above, they are not good photographers. Not at all. Calotyping -- which uses a negative made of thin paper -- was not ideal for portraiture, purely because of the time for which you had to stand still. On some of the photographs you can see men's arms propped up by sticks, to try and keep the picture sharp. It's only when you remember these limitations -- and that they were making photography up as they went along -- that their good photographs become incredible. Nearly all of their best pictures are the ones that aren't portraits. In the same gallery is a rather nice exhibition by a chap called Stephen Lawson. He takes long, thin pictures made over a time-lapse, from a few seconds to a whole year. Lovely pictures, like a photo taken of a whole day on Berie Beach, which (as scottish people will surely know) is near Cnip, Bhaltos, and is one of the nicest beaches in Scotland. Of course, you have to remember. He wouldn't have done it without Hill and Adamson, whatever I say about the quality of their pictures. You always have to have someone to think of something first. I've thought about taking photos in an Old Style. Sometimes, they have a wonderful effect which can't be equalled by modern film and shutters, never mind about digital thingys. The best I have come to so far was through scanning the picture, though, not through film and paper. I wan to take pictures of water that take several minutes, pictures of breaking waves that turn into an image of a cliff rising through ghostly mist. Anyway. Enough pictures. You can't write about photos for any length of time without needing illustrations. I had a discussion with someone recently, that if you can write about one thing well, then -- with a bit of practise and maybe a few reference books -- you can write about anything at least fairly well. That's still true, but it's hard to discuss a photograph if the other person can't see what you're talking about. Now that gives me an idea. I should write a story about a blind photographer. I want to write lots of stories, and lots of them are about photographers. And, for my next trick, several words selected randomly. See if you can work out what it means: Formalin pickpocket, autoclave put up mind-numbing squirearchy Duenaburg gradation. Schongauer pilotfish disappear give in trellis progesterone. I never realised my dictionary had so many German proper nouns in it. love xx caitlin (who must be having One Of Those Days) -- http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/ "When life gives us lemons, we just sit there and sulk about it, in the corner of the room, in a fetal position." - Matthew Henderson, on the Sinister mailing list. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jason.cochrane at xxx.com Tue Jun 11 20:18:59 2002 From: jason.cochrane at xxx.com (jason.cochrane at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:18:59 -0400 Subject: Sinister: the most valuable poet on the M-I-C Message-ID: <2F96BE4C7CC6D211A55F0008C7A4397604F1E68F@OHSC-EX4> Hello.. sinisters I'm looking for some book recommendations seeing as you are all such a literate bunch. I'm really into dark humor and satire but I'll pretty much read anything. The only thing I don't really read is super long books. I'm constantly out and about and I really can't be bothered lugging around some massive book. other than that I'm yours.... mail me off list of course... would want to bog down all these people with such trivial matters. ======= I would also like to state for the record that I don't like the Storytelling album. It's not the music.. the music is fine. It's the way companies take advantage of fans and put out absolute trash. I don't think anything artistic had to do with those snippets of dialogue going on the album. it's just filler.... to make the running time longer so that they could market it as a full album. Why a record company would do this is beyond me... considering that there are alternatives to actually paying for the album. See y'all on Audiogalaxy...while it lasts. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Jun 11 23:43:17 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: dreams Message-ID: <20020611224317.77694.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinisterians! today I passed my theory test. I'm one step away from buying myself a car to drive to more picnics. yesterday I bought a thesaurus. When I was little, I used to pronouce it as "thees- ee-a-saurus". I did til I was 15 actually. I've been experiencing glimpses of inspiration recently. I experience it on buses, or trains, or when i go for walks, and then i go to places like work and it gets killed off. But then it jumps up again. And I like that. I just wish it would hang about for longer. I see things, and sometimes I promise to write about them in my notebook, and sometimes I make a memo to myself in my head to write to sinister about them. But then work attacks the imagination. Work is a scam, you know. Its designed to keep us under control by those who want to kill our passions, and to make us make money for them. Thats why its so hard to be a professional creator of things. Only a few, a lucky select few, ever break out of the 9-5ing. I think. wonder about the people I see sometimes, on the train to work. Do you suppose that the middle aged men, in middle management, who prepare endless streams of reports for their collegues to read, that seem to be about the most mindless o things, ever really wanted to be there? I doubt it. What happens to your dreams? And if your dreams die, what replaces them? And how do people cope with dead dreams? I'm lucky. I've acheived a lot of my childhood ambitions. I never wanted much. It just looked fascinating when I was little. My checklist of ambitions: to work in a shoe shop: I used to get a pair of new shoes, and I loved it. I'd take it home in the box, and sell it to my teddy bears, intregued by the illustraton on the label on the front, or the 13G size. The idea that there was a magical room, in the Clarks shoe shop in East Kilbride just filled with boxes was a hidden cave of childhood desires. All those boxes! Think of the toys you could devise from them! you could easily build a fortress from them! And the shoes! all mint condition, all wrapped up in tissue paper, all new, without a single crack or crease in the patent black smoothness. They used to have a big image of the magic roundabout on the wall in that shoe shop too. My mum and dad always sat us away from it, behind an island of shoes, so I wouldn't get distracted. And the wonderful little shoe fitters- I loved that. I always wanted the cool white band that they pulled over the top to be pulled tighter. And when you got bigger, they took you to the machine. You'd put your foot in to this square shaped hole, and then the assistant would use a control, and then the sides would come inwards, and it would scroll across this lit up screen, to tell you your shoe size. tto work in a cafe: When I went to norway, as a kid, I used to play a lot on my own. My dad built me this wonderful play hut. It was amazing. It had a door, and two windows, and a balcony with little steps, and was made from wood, and painted red, with white around the edges of the roof and the door. Its still standing there. It got too hot to play for long periods of time in there, but I made it my own. I used a bright plastic blue crate for a table, and I found this old rocking chair my uncle made . And I found bits of embroidered cloth for table linen. I'd line my mums toys up. My favourite, was this tiny little panda she had. It must have had metal inside under the lining of fur- like the toys you see in childhood musuems or on the Antiques Roadshow from the 1950's, but it was cool. It had moving limbs like a proper teddy bear, and a ragged red ribbon round its neck with a plastic medalion, that once had gold coloured paint on it with some maker perhaps or manufacturer on it, but only a few tiny spots of paint were left. And when you moved its tail from side to side, the head wiggled. I even had a little rug, one like those rag rugs you get from shops like Ikea. Although, when it was wet, and I had my wellington boots on, I used to trail bits of long grass all over the inside of my hut anyway. On nice days, I used to set up a table outside. It would be made from floats used by fisherman that had been discarded and washed up on the rock beach. There were three I needed: two cylinder ones, and a wide, flat, circular one. And I would place the circular one ontop of one of the cylinder ones, for a tale, and the other cylinder one acted as a stool. Then I'd cut out a paper plate from a sheet of lined A4paper. and I'd use my mums old doll china tea set. Dandalion leaves made a salad. As it was summer, I'd go and pick buttercups. When the buttercups have been pollenated, or whatever it is that they do, then the middle of them becomes swollen, and green. And if you pick of the petals, you're left with this little green sphere. They made great peas. My gran had made a knitted bottle cosy, for a glass bottle. It was brown and red, and it had a little face on it, with a pom-pom hat over the neck. I used to take off the hat and put wild flowers in it. Then, I'd invite my mum to eat at my cafe, where I served peas and salad and tea. She was aways a gracious customer, and paid very well in imaginary money. To go to university: I was seven, and I designed a pciture of a house. I remember it was a sunny sunday afternoon, and I sat in the channel of a beam of sunlight, with a new A4 refill pad. I sat drawing cafefully, a plan of a house. When I showed this to my dad, he sat on the sofa, and smiled, raising his eyebrows as he puffed his ever present pipe. He told me it was like an architects drawing. I asked what an architect was. He explained to me. Noticing my fathers impressed face, I wanted t become an architect. My dad said I'd have to go to university for seven years. After that, all my jobs that I wanted to do involved university at some point. The idea of being a scholar, of being someone, so clever and wise and surrounded by books, with leather bindings, and feeling somehow special.. it became part of the requirement for my jobs. I never became an architect, but I did go to university. car driving: I wanted to drive a car. I had two to cars when I was three. Two matchbox toy cars. They went everywhere with me. Them and my bean bag little ted. I had a brown porche, and a yellow ryder van. In the summer, I usedto wait for my dad to come home. And I would run to the end of the street. Some days, he'd let me climb in on his knee, and steer the car into the driveway. I used to wave at my friends, who were mostly older than I, standing there on thhe pavement dismounting their bikes to watch. On saturdays, I used to play at ice cream vans. We had this big White chrysler avenger estate, so it sort of looked like an ice cream van, from my eye. I'd make ice cream cones from more of that A4 lined paper, stuffed with cotton wool. Or if I'd run out of cotton wool, pink toilet paper. And then I'd scream out the open window, and allthe nieghbours kids would come running, and pretend to buy an ice cream from me. Sometimes, they didn't quite get it, and gave me real money. Which my dad would find in the ashtray. flying: I used to want to fly. I use to ask my mum, why jumping off a chair with a teatowel round my neck didn't make me fly. It worked for superman, afterall. I'd run up and down the livingroom, trying to build up speed to lift me off the ground. My mum explained I couldn't fly, and birds could, becuase birds have smaller bottoms than us. Well, I still can't fly properly, although I tried fr years. But I've flown in plenty of aeroplanes, so that has to count. chocolate: the whole point of growing up, is that you can do whatever you want to do. When I was about ten, the one thing I wanted to do in the whole world was take some chocolate ice cream sauce, and EAT it, just on its own, without having to wait for dessert. You used to be able to buy a sauce called "ice magic" in the UK. It was in a chocolate brown shaped plastic bottle, with a brown cap that was perhaps supposed to resemble a snow covered peak, dripping down the sides of the "mountain" shaped bottle. You would pour this stuff over your ice cream, and it would harden to a crisp, if you left it for a few minutes. You'd have to shake the bottle hard though beforehand, or it would come out watery and oily, like when you don't shake tomato ketchup before you squeeze it out, and you get this runny, watery stuff with a tint of red in it. Well, ice magic. I used to want to pour it and devour it by the tablespoonful. but i had to ait til dessert time at the weekends. My friend wanted to as well. squeeze it into a spoon, and let it harden and form the shape of the spoon. Sometimes, I'd mix the ice magic in with my ice cream, making it all thick and creamy, and sometimes, i'd let it harden, then crack it with my spoon and mix it in, so i'd get little bits of chocolate. Well, I've not see ice magic for years, but as an adult, I've certainly eaten as much chocolate as I can. And theres nobody to stop me. Only my stomach. thats all the ambitions i can recall having achieved as an adult. Some I'll never acheive. I'll never become a unicorn, despite all the times I tied paper cones to my head and sellotaped tassles made from paper and string to my bottom. I'll never be a horse either. Nor a magician who can change form, into a cat, or dog. I'll never be a guest presenter on jackanory. I hated the programme- it was far too educational for after school, but I wanted to be on it, telling people stories I made up. But there are still some dreams I might accomplish yet. Not telling you what, they are my special dreams. I had so much moreto say really, but I'm getting tired now. so I'll just try and remember to tell you some other time. Never going to dream of middle management. love idles xxxx ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From esme at xxx.com Wed Jun 12 00:05:30 2002 From: esme at xxx.com (ee fumblings) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 00:05:30 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: haikus revealed // week twentytwo // two thousand and two Message-ID: Please remember this one as an example of how not to do it. Instead, read one of ken's, he'll enlighten you if you ask him nicely. Who´s going on the Moldy peaches concert in Göteborg this tuesday. I'm up the next two weekends to look myself. Thank you for your time. N. I don't want to see Will Young castrate Heard It Through The Grapevine. Jesus. Ozzy was great, but even he didn't know what he was doing there. The Times lavished praise all over it, as did most of the broadsheets, natch. Storytelling has a good tune and Sarah is a lovely singer. Forget Spice Girls, I'd say that's real Girl Power, but that's so anyway. Keep the briars out, they say. You cannot live and keep free of briars. I don't have all that much spending cash so I got to watch my budget. Le Tigre however are the furthest thing from shite. they are rock. solid. This, for some reason, launched me into a chasm of gloom and self doubt. Ha! I have one now. No problem. To think I was worried about it. They all took turns to play just about everything each. It kinda worked. Is it just me or is anyone else dusting down their guillotine? ps, I think that was a haiku. Please include it EE. go on. pps, that was also a haiku. how weird is that? This is too. The children lose count of the giraffes as we steam on past the tall trees. I'll have to smuggle it into the office in my lunchbox, I think. Isobel the best of luck in whatever she does, blah blah wibble. I'll let you all know about it. Feel free to send more answers in, though. I want to plant art around the city without warning anyone. I haven't listened to all of it yet. And I haven't seen the film. Subject: Sinister: The tacos are good. That's what's really important. I heard about it from the list, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. It's just one of the greatest feelings in the world. Or it should have been. Or how long it will take to get one? I had more to say, honestly. Pulp, Mercury Rev, and promo videos from Seafood and Clinic. I'm glad that he's not presenting the World Cup. Oh wait, that's Bob Wilson. I wonder if the answers to the Booty hunt will be revealed soon. MISCELLANEOUS Yay I'm moving into my new place this Sunday.. But I also get the feeling that the song is about giving up. If she can't show up for work (IE: the US tour) then fire her big ass. If the answer is b, then ignore the former, and move to the news. I can't say I know if that's working out, as she's been out of contact. I'm glad I'm not the only one disappointed by Bel's departure. Field Mice were engaged in a pitched battle with Felt for my attention. So i'll come off it. to tell you all the truth i don't know what love is. I may indeed be older, but I'm certainly not a clever swine. Subject: Sinister: i just remembered what made me think of all this. I want to know what kind of stories it tell to inspire songs like those. Hello! I was the girl reading the book right in front of you in line. I think the band have changed a lot recently, in very subtle ways. But it's another kind of love, a more simple and easier kind. I'll see some of you soon, some of you later and some of you never. // ee // +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From supergirl918 at xxx.com Wed Jun 12 02:03:48 2002 From: supergirl918 at xxx.com (Jill Henkels) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 20:03:48 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Beating Topic To Death Message-ID: i've found myself in a somber mood perhaps brought on by my broken cable box. i am left only to put my brain into motion; love seems to be the general topic to ponder this tuesday evening: love is hard to accept: it seems rather unlikely to be a win-win situation. in the end, at minimum one soul will be left bruised; at least four bruised souls are left in my past, including my own. i must refuse such situations again. i do not believe myself to be uncommon enough to find the feeling that doesn't eventually become lacking. i shall, instead, rely upon the love received from and given to my books and music (sebastian & belle, of course). it is safe; they do not leave or react to the love: they only accept. it's a very self-reliant love; kind of like masturbation for the heart. no one gets hurt. interaction with other people brings only conversation about such love and accidental and fumbling physical bumping into's brought on by necessity and/or alcohol. if people are meant to walk in pairs, then it seems reasonable to assume that each individual equals a half. i think that, perhaps, i represent slightly less than a half. i must find someone slightly more than their fair share in order to feel comfortable as one. such people are rare. without this exceptional human being, both sides are left feeling incomplete, searching for that missing piece. they soon realize that the puzzle pieces are slightly misfitted. i once fell in love with another less than half: disastrous repercussions. brought on by the realization that the other only represented half, both sides were only made less than they already were. a boy recently, when asked for his reaction toward me, responded that he found me "damn cute. i'm still deciding if that's good or not." if history repeats itself, and it always does, it is not, for i shall soon steal his smile. time to go wash my toes in the fountain, jillianne _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kristi_li at xxx.com Wed Jun 12 02:32:20 2002 From: kristi_li at xxx.com (Kristi H) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 01:32:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the Garden State Message-ID: "h" (Historian) wrote: "I hated the song about Jersey. I hate New Jersey. I lived there in America's armpit for quite a while, and loathed every moment of it." Hmmmm....what's so bad about "the garden state"? I live in Jersey and when I first moved here, I hated it too, especially because I moved here from Seattle, a very beautiful city. However, it's kind of grown on me. I love the fact that it's so culturally diverse; in the town where I live there is a kosher Chinese restaurant, an Ethiopian restaurant, a Thai restaurant, a kosher pizzeria, and even a kosher Dunkin donuts. I also like the fact that I can drive or take the train into to Manhattan in less than an hour. Last weekend, I bought the 'Storytelling' CD. At first, I didn't like it, but after a few listens, I think it's starting to grow on me. I also bought the new Mary Timony CD, 'The Golden Dove', which I think is the best thing she's put out since her days in Helium. Mark Linkous from Sparklehorse actually helped produce it, so it has a distinctively different sound from her last solo album, 'Mountains' which, in my opinion, wasn't produced well at all. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bashpoo at xxx.com Wed Jun 12 07:09:41 2002 From: bashpoo at xxx.com (poOoOo *) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:09:41 +1000 Subject: Sinister: recessing in sydney !!! Message-ID: In search of a cheap and fun night out on a Friday!?! �Recess� is going strong every week at the Teachers Club spinning the best of new and old indie sounds plus doses of soul, lounge, retro and electro. There�s free pool and $2.70 schooners all night too!! Everything gets under way at 8pm and we usually finish around 12.30ish. Oh, its free entry as well!! And giveaways too! Spinning music from Stereolab, Go-Betweens, Sea and Cake, Lali Puna, Chicks On Speed, Puffy, Belle and Sebastian, Pavement, Adult, OMD, Mates Of State, Pastels, Smiths, Hummingbirds, Cinerama, Blur, Ides Of Space, Weezer, Call and Response, Teenage Fanclub, Holiday, Saint Etienne, Ukiyo-E, Francoise Hardy, Moldy Peaches, My Bloody Valentine, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, The Pattern, White Stripes, Dressy Bessy, Pulp, Breeders, Momus, Broadcast, Aislers Set, Hideki Kaji, Kinks, Cornelius, Count Five, You Am I, Chords, Replacements, Youth Group, Guided By Voices, Komeda, Club 8, Pet Shop Boys, Apples In Stereo, Prop, Blonde Redhead, Papas Fritas, Delgados, Walkmen, Built To Spill, Folk Implosion, Magnestic Fields, Mouse On Mars, Stereo Total, Can Teachers Club, 33 Mary St (between Albion & Reservoir and parallel to Elizabeth), Surry Hills. Us at Popfrenzy http://hop.across.to/popfrenzy _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayeckard at xxx.com Wed Jun 12 06:59:30 2002 From: jayeckard at xxx.com (Jay Eckard) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 05:59:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Heat. And not the good kind, either Message-ID: You know, it's 2 o'clock in the morning here and still 85 degrees. By 10 am, it'll be 95+ and 90+% humidity. That's damn hot. And it's going to be like this through till October. I'm not quite sure what that is metric. But the heat is oppressive: it's like a force down on you as soon as you walk outside. It's not like you can enjoy being outside, you soak through whatever you're wearing and keel over from heat stroke. The humidity is so bad that as you walk outside, your glasses fog over. Pools are no fun because they're warmer than blood. It's the South for you, not the polite world of Truman Capote or Harper Lee, but the harsh reality of William Faulkner. Sorry, but after two and a half decades, the heat's getting to me. Decent B&S content: Nobody in Belle and Sebastian ever seems to mention the heat, do they? I thought about this today while a fat woman decided between ordering biscuits and cornbread. The closest I could think was one or two lines in I Know Where the Summer Goes, but it wasn't really suffering from heat. But I haven't heard Storytelling yet. Any thoughts? Jay -- "Knowing? That's easy. Everyone does that ad nasueum. I just sort of hope." 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ruthmaverick at xxx.com Wed Jun 12 15:11:45 2002 From: ruthmaverick at xxx.com (Ruth Allan) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:11:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Construedle. Message-ID: yo sinister, my boyfriend just said 'I bet you are posting to sinister about how bored you are with requests for people to mail you' Well at least I'm not talking about going to the bathroom which would be marginally more entertaining. I do like the new album surprisingly but hated the film with a loathing that was quite out of character even to myself. I am pleased Mr Jason Cochrane of Canadia has come out of his shell. I think he is actually a fine figure of a man about the page: misconstrued not misog--istic. And books can be superb. I just dont find comedy that funny very often. Proving a. that I am serious b. that I am seriously dull c. not getting it or preferably too clever. this is obviously no help. Does anyone know anything about the reindeer section? Does it feature members of b and s as rumoured? x _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kchu at xxx.uk Wed Jun 12 15:57:44 2002 From: kchu at xxx.uk (kchu at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:57:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tandoori Smelling (includes SECRET E-MAIL FROM JEEPSTER!) Message-ID: <80256BD6.005232E5.00@daimlerchryslerservices.co.uk> Oh my God.. whilst I was busy making sweet love with the toilet yesterady I didn't realise that a member of JEEPSTER accidentally sent me the follow e-mail OH. MY. GOD. read this: ===================================== -- Forwarded Message Attached -- >>From: theboss at xxx.uk >>To: stuart at murdoch.com >>Subject: Storytelling >> >>Stuart, >> >>For goodness sake what have you done? Nice tunes, but this new Storytelling ALBUM >>that I've told you to make? It's supposed to be an A L B U M? In case you didn't know, >>the "L" in "L.P." stands for LONG, i.e. not short. Damn fool, now go and make the album >>longer so I can make more money. >> >>Jeepster's Boss >>P.S.: And what's this business with Isobel leaving? Who am I going to model >>on the 2003 B&S nudity calender? and NO, not your stupid car. >> > >From: Stuart at xxx.com >To: theboss at jeepster.co.uk >Subject: Re: Storytelling > >Aye, no bother boss. I've now added a few 10 second sound clip fillers to the >album - it's now 2 minutes longer than before!!! Aren't I clever? It's got nothing >to do with trying to give a background on what the songs were written for at all. > >I bet you can make at least œ50 more than before. > >Stuart >P.S.: I've got a few photos of me in Chicago Cubs' uniform you can use! Scandalous. I'd say lets all go raid Jeepster HQ to get our money back! Ken P.S.: I wonder if ee cummings has already tried revealing haikus from the actual B&S songs e.g. me and the major could become close friends cos we get on the same train while your head is clear while your head is la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la an old newspaper fell into their hands through some passing traveller etc. jason.cochrane wrote on 11/06/2002 20:18:59 >I would also like to state for the record that I don't like the Storytelling >album. It's not the music.. the music is fine. It's the way companies take >advantage of fans and put out absolute trash. I don't think anything >artistic had to do with those snippets of dialogue going on the album. it's >just filler.... to make the running time longer so that they could market it >as a full album. Why a record company would do this is beyond me... >considering that there are alternatives to actually paying for the album. >See y'all on Audiogalaxy...while it lasts. ****************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT This email, its content and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be legally privileged and/or confidential. Access by any other party is unauthorised without the express written permission of the sender. If you have received this email in error you may not copy or use the contents, attachments or information in anyway. Please destroy it and contact the sender on 0870 840 5000 or via email return. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cjdevaney at xxx.uk Wed Jun 12 16:30:52 2002 From: cjdevaney at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Christopher=20Devaney?=) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:30:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Reindeer section Message-ID: <20020612153052.64966.qmail@web13702.mail.yahoo.com> Mick and Richard are fully paid up members of the section, appearing on their first album 'Y'all get scared now, ya hear!' last summer, and on their forthcoming album 'Son of evil reindeer'. I presume that's Richard drumming on the new single 'You are my joy'. Can't hear any trumpet but Mick may well appear on it in some other form. Gary Lightbody from Snow Patrol is the genius behind the supergroup, that man must sweat good songs, he's written so many. The section also feature members of Alfie, Astrid, Vaselines, Mogwai,Eva, Mull Historical Society, and many more. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lizdaplyn at xxx.com Wed Jun 12 16:43:35 2002 From: lizdaplyn at xxx.com (Liz Daplyn) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:43:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Reader, I married him Message-ID: Actually, I didn't. But I moved to London! All the cool kids are *doing it* these days, you know. Apart from the ones who are leaving the country. Hopefully Mr Stefano will be back sharpish, as will Mr Jeremy (not the Basil Brush wrangler, but the effete Australian) after finding out that you really never can go home again. Of course, Mr BApps won't be back for quite some time after Fruitloop devours him alive (as is traditional, I believe) after the wedding ceremony, and certainly not in the same format. As it were. Still, no doubt he'll still be keen to show off his biro deep-throating skeelz, as developed and demonstrated the other night in Highgate. Crikey. Before all that happens, however, there was mention of Sinister bowling on the 22nd, and I propose that this should take place in Finsbury Park, because I'm lazy and would prefer to only stagger 500 yards or so back to my lovely new house in the gory aftermath that inevitably follows these twee encounters, taking as many of you with me as can stand it. Meanwhile, I shall attempt to find a job worthy of me*, and maybe do some baking. On reflection, maybe I should have taken up Madeleine's Brighton offer of marriage. After all, making cake on demand is not too high a price to pay for the luxury of being a kept woman in the East Midlands. Re-watching a video of B&S on Joolz Holland merely in order to crease up sniggering at the "which cat just pissed on my crisps?" look on the face of Mr Holland, it was interesting to see Isobel smirking towards the end of 'I'm Waking Up To Us' in a kind of pre-post-dumping kind of way. That is, I conjecture that she was thinking about the pain she would cause all you boys out there on her departure from the bosom of the band that had nurtured her asthmatic stylings for so long. Jesus wept, is it that time already? Many felicitations, Liz :x * that is, one requiring the prodigious talents of a bear of very little brain --- So then, farewell. Your arse Was far too special for them Anyway. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mchapman at xxx.edu Wed Jun 12 18:18:49 2002 From: mchapman at xxx.edu (Margaret Chapman) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:18:49 -0400 Subject: Sinister: please be on the look out... References: <200206121544.QAA01889@missprint.org> Message-ID: <3D078279.8070208@duke.edu> hi i live in Durham, NC and on June 4th some one broke into our beloved indy music store, Radio Free Records, and stole about 85% of the stock, including 4000+ cds not in their cases. Unfortunately, this was a small, young business and did not have any insurance. It also means that we don't have any place to buy good music right now. We think someone came from out of town, and is maybe trying to get rid of this stuff on the street. It's a long shot, but if you live in a big city and you see a lot of independent label cds in green paper sleeves at a flea market or on the street, let us know. contact info and more about the break-in can be found at http://www.sixtythree.org/radiofree/ if you live near by, check out the website for information on upcoming benefit shows, yard sales, auctions, paypal donations, etc. m +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From esme at xxx.com Wed Jun 12 21:51:01 2002 From: esme at xxx.com (ee fumblings) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 21:51:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: haikus revealed // belle and sebastian In-Reply-To: <80256BD6.005232E5.00@daimlerchryslerservices.co.uk> Message-ID: kchu at daimler chryslerservices.c o.uk wrote: > Tandoori Smelling > (includes SECRET E-MAIL FROM > JEEPSTER!) Oh my God.. I was so touched, I was moved to kick the crutches from my crippled friend. She keeps the neighbours up all night. I go to her when I'm feeling slack. She knows she's losing it, yeah she's losing it. Oh yeah she's losing it. So what's the score? Cause there must be a reason for all the looks we gave. Hand in hand with the Electronic Renaissance Is the way to go. You go disco and I'll go Funkadelic, man. Is the way to go. They've got a spy for every blink of your eye. I'm feeling hunted. They've got a knife for every time you take the same train into work. Was she bored, or pushed. Do something pretty while you can. Don't be a fool. You said that it was Hell. I don't love anyone. You're not listening. The kids are playing, having fun. I pass them by I'm not a kid, no. Mary Jo, living alone. Drinking gin with the telly on. She wants. Mary Jo, no one can see. What you've been through. Now you've got love to burn. You are looking at the working week in the eyes of a gigolo. You're going to have to change. Or you're going to have to go with girls. Number of things, he'll take a guy like me. And put him in the army. Get me away from here I'm dying. Play me a song to set me free. Here on my own now after hours. Here on my own now on a bus. I'll settle down with some old story. About a boy who's just like me. After a while they always get it. They always reach a sorry end. Washing against the lonely tenement has set my mind to wander. Theresa's calling her, the church up on the hill is looking lovely. I don't mind the sight of you. Keep me company till she comes around. You sent the boys and girls away. You are concerned with matters lofty. Hang your head in shame and cry your life away. The boy done wrong again. Are you ok now? On Saturday I was an angel shining fair. Judy, where did you go wrong? You used to make me smile when I was down. Judy got a book at school. She went under the cover with her torch. Judy and the Dream of Horses. Dream of Horses. You dream of horses. So Judy, where does that leave you? Walking the street from morning to night. Every song I ever wrote was written for you. Written for you. Cause the girl's all right. The girls have got a house that's like a caravan. I had to leave them in the morning. I left the keys around the way. Everyone thought it was a shame. Belle was ok but oh Sebastian. Being a rebel's fine. But you go all the way to being brutal. You will have a boy tonight. Or maybe you will have a girl tonight. Obscured by all the trouble we had. I think I better make a move. I saw my friend and he couldn't believe that. The girls were holding hands. How will I get her to strike a pose? It's getting cold, I'll catch the bus. You see the boy/girl's at the bar. Everyone thinks she's really ugly. They took you mould and burned it on the fire of history today. I've been watching you lately. If I said all these things you would hate me. She lay in bed all night watching the colours change into green and gold. You're always looking for a sign. But boy you blow it every time. Then you waited for the people to acknowledge you. They spoke in turn. I caught a glimpse of someones face. It was mine and I'd been crying. You've too much on your mind. Things creep up on you when you are fast asleep. You are stuck to the sheets. In a town so small there's no escaping you. Squalor and smoke's not your style. "I don't like this place", we better go. And the old prison food. Colour my life with the chaos of trouble. The Asian man with his love hate affair with his racist clientele. Met the Indie-Cool Queen. Took me out of the bar. And showed me the scene. Said the spider to the fly. Do I like this girl? It's such a big world. Find my girl in a while. Look myself in the face. Don't know what you see. I'll be there. A boy to deal with all your problems. But part of the deal. If you want me look me up. I don't exist in usual places. And there were blue veins blue. Blue veins. If you want me all you have to do. She went out to the Easterhouse. Because she liked the sound of it. She didn't have a single penny. She stuck a finger in the air. I suppose she needs a holiday. I put my arm around her waist. Her horoscope was nearly perfect. She's thinking of something to do. I'll leave them to do what they want. I'll leave them to do what they need to. I stick it on the shelf again. Now I could tell you what I'm thinking. I could tell you what I'm thinking. But it never seems to do you good. I'll wait. It's a chance I'll take oh yeah. In the hope I'll forget I'll wait. I hang upon your shoulder and cry. Watching friends playing in the dirt. You're like a mother to the girl you've fallen for. And you're still falling. I'd soon forget. Swap or leave. There's got to be a better song to sing. I will confess to you. Because I didn't think about the message. I missed your party. It was me that paid for it eventually. You're not impressed by me. But it's a funny way for you to tell me. I thought you could be bluffing. And with this chance I've missed I feel remiss. Chasing darkened skies above me. Looking like the spring. Like the winter. I'm trying hard to hide. Keeping the sun out of my eyes. Close them tight. That this was never meant to be. 'Cos the days are long where I come from. I'm free. There's a train I want to catch. But it won't leave here for a while. It finally dawned on me tonight. Best to go down without a fight. The wrong eyes to go searching behind. The wrong dream to have on my mind. I'll go to London there's a mate of mine I know. she'll give me a place. Her face was just a smear on the pane. He raped me in the chalet lines. To take the test, I'm feeling sick. Fuck this, I've felt like this for a week. She asks me why I don't. Tell the law. Oh what's the fucking point at all. They had the shows on till way after dark. I hope she'll give me a place. I don't care cause I'm by myself. All the dancers left but I can't dance. There is nothing that would sort you out. There's nothing I could say or do. It saddens me to think that the only ones I see are mannequins. Biology and Maths. I want Poetry and Music and some laughs. I'm not here to fool around. I could hang about and burn my fingers. It's safer not to look around. I can't hide my feelings from you now. // ee // +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From foranotherdream at xxx.com Wed Jun 12 21:58:23 2002 From: foranotherdream at xxx.com (bus stoppers) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the sunrise is something to see Message-ID: <20020612205823.24848.qmail@web12407.mail.yahoo.com> good afternoon sinister! though i might at times seem like a psychopath (sp?), i think that i have been doing a relatively good job of making sure things are going better. ruts are bad. moving on is good. getting through the day is even better. maybe productivity and exercising my brain have something to do with this whole new chapter, but i think that this school thing might work out okay. i was very reluctant and stubborn at first, but accomplishing something beyond the mundane tasks of 'the coffee job' seems to be working as a sort of pick me up. distraction, maybe? plus, now that my day starts so damn early, i get to see the world pre-sun, sunny, and post-sun. and that most definately is refreshing and different in itself. you know that whole early morning fog-overcast thing? i think i like it. and on to other happy news, i think that i get to meet my second sinister friend this weekend. my sinister valentine will be in california and he is going to take me out for sushi. should be fun as it is my first "high-school date" which is what he promised me! :) and i must confess something else. i have become obsessed with neon genesis evangelion. who'd have thunk. anime. what am i going to do with yet another obsession? it's almost sad. but what else is there in life if you don't get to get excited about stuff that makes you happy or makes you cry or makes you sing along, right? middle age is also rearing it's ugly head. well, still somewhat down the road, but 22 is less than a month away, which means 30 and 40 are less than 20 years away. when compared to infinity or eternity, it's pretty fucking close, right? okay. so i'm being over-dramatic. but birthdays are a happy thing. it's a special day to celebrate the eventful moment you entered this crazy world from out of your very own mommy!! well that's enough out of the town-looney. hugs and half smiles and yawns, sara ===== all the people'd stare as if we were both quite insane someday my name and his are going to be the same __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Cottyn at xxx.com Thu Jun 13 00:19:12 2002 From: R.Cottyn at xxx.com (Richard Cottyn) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 00:19:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Suck This Tit Message-ID: <009001c21267$c93943e0$db5f073e@Cottyn> Heylo there... Apologies for the subject line...couldn't resist... Idleberry's last post was fantastic-I was surprised to find myself almost in tears by the end of it...must be because of all the childhood stuff...it was a great post though so thanks idles, it made my day :) I'm still not sure what I make of Storytelling, though what I do know is that 'Big John Shaft' is pretty damn good. Certainly one of the best songs they've ever done. I dare you to defy me. In fact, listen to it now. Go on, you simply have to agree...I take it it's in your CD player, I mean what else would be?! On second thoughts, just wait til you've finished reading my post, and then press the play button and skip right down to the end, track 18, and you will, you WILL agree that it is bloody brilliant! Is it just me or is every woman who goes into 'Boots' good looking? It's true-look carefully next time you go in. I haven't noticed but maybe there's like a security guard at one of the front entrances letting in ONLY good looking women-I shall keep my eyes peeled for him next time. Oh and finally found Morrissey's 'Kill Uncle' to complete my Moz collection :) This week I recommend: Playing late night tetris Yahoo pool Midnight football Polishing The World Cup (of course) Winning the Champions League with Brighton on Champ Manager (How sad!) Finding ways to avoid revision (ie all of the above) This week I do not recommend: Revision Alarm clocks Spending too much money Revision Having a lack of pens Revision And if you have five seconds to spare...then go and listen to a bit of 'Big John Shaft'. :) Richard X +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dangerous_mike at xxx.com Thu Jun 13 17:41:29 2002 From: dangerous_mike at xxx.com (michael grant) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 16:41:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: miss idleberry's ever-enlarging above-neck appendage, other things. Message-ID: i dont want to give miss idleberry a big head by being written about for two posts in a row, but i cant help it. and if it helps, i thought of it before mister richard cottyn, i promise. i did. (and also for miss idles, congrats on passing your theory test). anyway, miss idleberry's post was damn near perfect. she said... "Do you suppose that the middle aged men, in middle management, who prepare endless streams of reports for their collegues to read, that seem to be about the most mindless o things, ever really wanted to be there?" and "What happens to your dreams? And if your dreams die, what replaces them? And how do people cope with dead dreams?" when do people lose that desire to do what they want, and accept that they'll be stuck in an office for the rest of their lives? ive still got it. i hope. i might be being naive, but i still have the belief that i'll do what i want in the end. not that i have any idea what that is at the moment, but that's irrelevant. i never understood the people at school who plan to be lawyers, or accountants, or engineers. is that really their passion? can they get excited about, and by, these things? i can't imagine it. that's probably just me though, unable to see why anyone would want to be different from the way i am. (which is a good point. i was looking in the mirror yesterday wondering why i dont get more sex, because i am very pretty. i do often wonder if my extreme love for myself is harmful. probably.) and the rest of idle's post was great too. my sister and i used to sneak into the big cupboard in the kitchen when our mum wasnt there and eat ice magic straight out of the bottle. and if that wasnt there, we'd have raspberry ice-cream sauce. we were a mischievous bunch. mister jay said.... "Nobody in Belle and Sebastian ever seems to mention the heat, do they?" well, i'm going to guess that's because b&s are from scotland. being there myself, and having witnessed it raining heavily in the middle of june (i.e. today), i can safely say it's not very hot. ever. mister ken chu is a flippin' genius..... >Aye, no bother boss. I've now added a few 10 second sound clip fillers to >the >album - it's now 2 minutes longer than before!!! Aren't I clever? It's got nothing >to do with trying to give a background on what the songs were written for >at all. this week i have mostly been listening to: maher shalal hash baz - from a summer to another summer ballboy - all the records on the radio are shite radiohead - live bootleg royal tenenbaums soundtrack the moldy peaches. cant think of much else to say. i should be making mister breams pubnic on saturday, so hopefully see some of you there. michael.xx "get out of your apartment. meet a member of the opposite sex. stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. quit your job. start a fight. prove your alive. if you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic." - tyler durden. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From foranotherdream at xxx.com Thu Jun 13 19:44:13 2002 From: foranotherdream at xxx.com (bus stoppers) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: love songs for jerk faces Message-ID: <20020613184413.59282.qmail@web12408.mail.yahoo.com> dear sinister, today as i was walking around campus, i looked down and saw a poor roly-poly on it's back. legs flailing all about. near death. so i stopped and picked him and up and put the poor bugger in the near-by planter. he got scared and froze up, but i think that he was still okay with still being alive. anyway, i was listening to volume 2 of the magnetic fields 69 love songs and had a brilliant idea. i'm going to make a mix tape with one brilliantly written s.merritt for every boy that has ever kissed me or broken me. speaking of cheese and sap... love, sara p.s...sorry, i'm at school and class was cancelled. i ' m b o-o - o r e d .. . ... . . ===== all the people'd stare as if we were both quite insane someday my name and his are going to be the same __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeremy at xxx.uk Fri Jun 14 00:05:04 2002 From: jeremy at xxx.uk (breams) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 00:05:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: to justify or just defy? Message-ID: <001101c2132e$c35bec80$343d86d9@fpgcsxhi> Greetings again dear friends... I know it's not been long since I posted, and I promise that I wouldn't come out of my little corner unless it was absolutely, positively necessary to do so. However, I now find myself bounding out of the wilderness with purpose. That purpose is to draw everyone's attention (well the attention of those intending to attend) to a change in the timing of the Glasgow Lipnic on Saturday. I previously gave the time as 2pm at Kelvinbridge Station, however, at the time I was not aware that England would be playing Denmark in the 2nd round of the World Cup. As a result of this fixture becoming apparent to me, I have changed tack and will now be at Kelvinbridge station at 3pm or just after. So, to reiterate for all of you listee attendees, be at Kelvinbridge Station for 3pm on Saturday 15th June. As for London Bowling Shenanigans, these are still being held on the 22nd June. Bowling will take place at Rowans Leisure Centre in Finsbury Park at 2pm on 22nd June. If anyone and everyone that thinks they will be attending could please email me asap, I will confirm numbers and make some bookings. I'm not going to try and justify this post with any form of witty banter, as I think my last attempt at a picnic report was something of a dismal failure. So I shall just leave you with another reiteration of times, this time for London. Rowans Leisure Centre 10 Stroud Green Road London N4 2DF (Opposite Finsbury Park Tube and Rail Stations) 2pm on Saturday 22nd June (ie, the day before I fly back to Australia). Be there or be cubist! Jeremy -------------------------------- http://www.breams.co.uk Home of all things breamsy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Fri Jun 14 00:52:30 2002 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:52:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: He's in love with rock n' roll. woah. Message-ID: I'm wired on nicotine and caffiene right now, so please excuse me. A little while ago, I was at the record store I work at, visiting a friend. There has been a picture of the band Phish up for ages near the counter. Now, no offense to anyone, but I hate Phish. I really do. It's fucking boring. Everytime someone comes into the store and asks for Phish or Widespread Panic, I go to my burned CD which features the Clash's "Mensforth Hill" backwards and forwards. I turn it on and play it loudly, just to annoy them. So anyway, today I got tired of the sight of the four guys from phish, shirtless, looking back at me in some sort of glossy, wet state. I pulled it off, went out back, lit it on fire, and in a completely rock n' roll fashion, lit my cigarette with it. The point? Well, there really isn't one. Except burning things is cool. So everyone, I highly suggest you burn something. The hot, humid summer days in Southern Alabama continue to swelter as I sit around with nothing to do. However, it is nice to see the list in a generally positive manner. Even my dear friend Sara seems to be happy about the way things are going. And idles' brilliant post about childhood made me very happy indeed. My 40 year old british friend (from widnes! that's my content!) who works at the record store was lamenting today about how this is all his life is. I told him that nobody is ever going to be utterly satisfied with their station in life for a very long time. Is this true? I've found it to be. And It seems that way wherever I look. If anyone can tell me to the contrary, i'd absolutely adore you. My record store sells "Storytelling" at $10.99. Now, that's AMERICAN dollars. You know, REAL MONEY. Not that fake kind you use in britain. Pounds? WTF?? i have a pound babe, and it DOESN'T weight a pound. Metric what? Sorry. The caffiene has taken hold. I can feel it anyway. It's in the post. Does anyone know if/when Isobel's Billie Holiday cover album is coming out? If so, is it available in the states? Does it have "Stars Fell on Alabama" on it? Or is that not Billie Holiday...hmm... -Matt _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brianraindogs at xxx.com Fri Jun 14 09:31:17 2002 From: brianraindogs at xxx.com (Brian McNeill) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:31:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: He's in love with rock n' roll. woah. Message-ID: >My record store sells "Storytelling" at $10.99. Now, that's AMERICAN >dollars. You know, REAL MONEY. Not that fake kind you use in britain. >Pounds? WTF?? i have a pound babe, and it DOESN'T weight a pound. Metric >what? > American money is bloody daft. All the same size and colour, very hard to tell it all apart if you don't pay attention. And ya don't put the sales tax on your advertised prices! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr brian _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kchu at xxx.uk Fri Jun 14 10:42:00 2002 From: kchu at xxx.uk (kchu at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:42:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tingle - Class Wank Message-ID: <80256BD8.00354978.00@daimlerchryslerservices.co.uk> To quote the Dire Straits: >> Good night, now it's time to go home << would be silly, but true. Well, as the ever wise Liz Daplyn pointed out there appear to be a lot of human traffickings that are happening in these times of permutation mutation sensation vibration liquidation nation masturbation etc. what with everyone leaving home, coming home, moving home, missing home, nursing home, kenning Hom etc. and the ever non-conformist me has decided to jump the bandwagon Volkswagon lovewagon etc. and is leaving this sodding job, and moving to London Tendon Camden Sheriden etc. Steve Lamacq Yeah, so today is my last day at work. Times a-changing, I've been joining this list for a good couple of years and posted far too often. My plan was that maybe one day Isobel would accidentally open one of my mails, and fall in love with me, or maybe just send me a reply. It hasn't happened and now even she had left. Sigh. At least there's ee fumblings who would answer my prayers for haikus What a star.. and aren't B&S haiku-tastic fantastic boombastic romantic etc? Anyway what I was going to say is that this work e-mail address won't be operational as of 5pm tonight, when I'd start getting TROLLEYED to celebrate my finishing of this job. So if you have a love letter for me, or god knows what else, you should send them to Kenneth P Y Chu at pykachu100 at hotmail.com instead. To quote the Dire Straits once more (this e-mail is falling through a downward spiral) >> but he makes it fast with one more thing.. << Matthew Henderson said: >My record store sells "Storytelling" at $10.99. Now, that's AMERICAN >dollars. You know, REAL MONEY. Not that fake kind you use in britain. >Pounds? WTF?? i have a pound babe, and it DOESN'T weight a pound. Metric >what? I agree. I love American Dollars! They all green and plastic looking! If Radiohead had been to America before they made "The Bends" it would have had a song like this A green plastic Dollar Bill for a fake yankee rubber wheel for his fake plastic ferret That she bought from a congressman In a town full of rubber plans to get rid of the middle east etc. and they all look the same! The only thing that distinguishes a dollar "Bill" and a 10 dollar one is a tiny little circle at the corner.. good design. Woo! Bill Bill Bill. Pay my bill with my bill with Bill on the Billboard with Billy Holliday singing Bills Bills Bills in my automobile and then we can chill. Off to fill up my er.. gas tank with a metric gallon of er, gas. On the other hand, I loved the way Brian McNeill expressed his love for the dollar Bill, so passionate, and well worded, I liked the excellent use of "bloody daft". Keep it real guys innit. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From applekins at xxx.com Fri Jun 14 08:08:33 2002 From: applekins at xxx.com (amy longcore) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 03:08:33 -0400 Subject: Sinister: NYC Indiepop Dance Party 2002, feat. Amelia Fletcher, Calvin Johnson & more! Holy Cow! Message-ID: my new sini friend, shirley beans, wanted me to pass this along to you all... wish i could be there! holy poop! amelia fletcher! shirley gets to spin with one of the major loves of my musical life? yep! please excuse my neglecting to get rid of all of the forward markings... i just can't be asked right now :) respect, amykins >--- Shirley Braha >wrote: > > Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:42:22 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Shirley Braha > > Subject: NYC Indiepop Dance Party 2002, feat. > > Amelia Fletcher, Calvin Johnson & more! Holy Cow! > > To: littleshirleybeans at yahoo.com > > > > NYC Indiepop Dance Party 2002 > > > > > > Get ready to dance your pants off, or at least bob > > your head whilst standing in the corner drinking Red > > Stripe. > > > > Sunday June 23, 2002 > > 9PM-2AM > > at Bar 13, 3rd Floor, 121 University Place (Near > > Union > > Square) > > > > with DJ sets from: > > **Amelia Fletcher & Rob Pursey (Tender > > Trap/ex-Marine > > Research/Heavenly/Talulah Gosh) > > **Calvin Johnson (K Records/ Beat Happening) > > **Gail O'Hara (Chickfactor) > > **Phofo (Phofo) > > **Shirley Braha (Indiepopradio.com/ Little Shirley > > Beans Records/ yeah thats me) > > **Jason Korzen (ex-Barcelona) > > > > > > Holy Cow! Can you believe that? and you know what > > else? > > its free!!!!!! > > > > This is secretly also my going away temporarily > > party, > > as I'll be by the Jersey Shore this summer (don't > > ask), and then its off to Smith College for a while! > > So be friendly and say goodbye...or hello as the > > case > > may be! > > > > Keep it to the ShirleyBeans.com if you need more > > info > > or are bored. > > > > Love, > > Shirley > > > > > > > > ===== > > >*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+**+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+**+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* > > Shirley Braha, 2028 East 8 St, Brooklyn NY > > 11223 > > > > OUT NOW! I AM THE WORLD TRADE CENTER / PHOFO 7" > > (bean 02) > > Little Shirley Beans Records & Zines > > www.shirleybeans.com > > Co-Operator www.indiepopradio.com > > Programming Director WFIT > > www.wfitonline.com >*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+**+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+**+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* > Shirley Braha, 2028 East 8 St, Brooklyn NY 11223 > > OUT NOW! I AM THE WORLD TRADE CENTER / PHOFO 7" (bean 02) > Little Shirley Beans Records & Zines www.shirleybeans.com > Co-Operator www.indiepopradio.com > Programming Director WFIT www.wfitonline.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Fri Jun 14 14:33:01 2002 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 14:33:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Glastonbury Warm-Up Message-ID: <04cd01c213a8$0221d3c0$be04fd3e@neil> It is with great pleasure that I can announce Belle & Sebastian will be performing a special Glastonbury warm-up show at Glasgow QMU on Thursday 27th June. Check www.banchory.net/belleandsebastian/news.html for ticket details. If they're not there now, they will be in a couple of hours. You will also find news of the band's Greek debut (Athens, Sep 13th). Rock on, Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Fri Jun 14 19:25:00 2002 From: rfadden at xxx.com (rrrrobyn) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 11:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: you go progressive disco house and i'll go my way Message-ID: <20020614182500.25796.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> hello! so: - it's summer here! i'm even wearing sandals! - i bought new music, including Dance Music! - i went to a party last saturday night and Trans Am and !!! were there! - there's a band called !!! - there's also a band called 'i am robot and proud'! (and they're from toronto! and they're good even!) how amazing is all that? yeah, i know. so someone should remix 'scooby driver' and the other danceable songs on storyingtelling and put them on a cd. or even make scooby driver 10 minutes long. then we could all put on white miniskirts and go-go boots and !dance!. yeah! no, really, it's a good idea. i went to this store in camden market that is full of that kind of thing, clothingwise. oh, it's kind of annoying, yes, but also kind of fun. i didn't buy anything, of course. but you can. i really did have things to say. like contributing to the Topic of Love, a sinister topic that, weaving snakelike through the forest, comes and goes but is never forgotten. but, having written that, i'd obviously rather contribute to the Topic of Being Unintentionally Smutty. but who's kidding whom? it's summer! it's time for Intentional Smut! it's really funny actually b/c it just got hot here yesterday and i went to a poetry/storytelling reading thing and the room was really hot and crowded and all the performers kept commenting about how everyone in attendance was "gooood loookin'" and sexy. and everyone suddenly was! yaay, summer! hm, so that was good. but a crappy thing is that i came back from holiday to find my favourite sushi restaurant closed! not just closed, but boarded up and the phone number disconnected and no forwarding address or anything! gone! and it was so close to my house. i really am quite sad about it. so, on saturday night i said, for some reason or another, 'fuck it, fuck it with knives!' as i sometimes do in certain situations. but this time i was actually around other people. and they were shocked! i might have said 'them' instead of 'it'. but still. i tried to explain how it wasn't *my* expression but came from, uh, an email list i'm on, a belle and sebastian list, and, it's really not as bad as it sounds... i think i started laughing and trailing off at the same time. because to me it's not as bad as it sounds b/c i connect it with sinister and belle and sebastian and i really think it's a great thing to say if you're saying it in an abstract way, which is the only way i've ever said it. *however*, whether a phrase is being said in an 'abstract way' and not a direct and factual way is often confusing to some people (notice i did not say 'dumb people'). 'it's just something to say!', i used in my defense, 'like 'fuck this shit!' calm down please, indie rockers!' and this was at a *trans am* concert, of all places! i obviously have no idea what 'cool' is anymore... ha ha, i totally do. anyway, the other day i read somewhere that 30 is the new 20. this just serves to illustrate that everything in the entire world is fictional. yes, it's all made up, what a surprise, etcetera, etcetera. it's a good thing i never believed in anything to begin with. (except for the power of love. i mean, smut.) right now i am listening to a song that features a rave whistle. yet somehow the song is really good. yeah, so did you hear that 27 is the new 16? agh... i'm going to go put on some black-light clothing now and a glow-in-the-dark tongue stud... (but i must admit that i bought the coolest sleeveless t-shirt in london: it's black and has the green matrix design (yes, from the movie!) on the front and when it's in blacklight parts of the matrix glow and it looks like it's *moving*! oooh!) among other things which will go nameless until i get tonnes of email back from people about how much they love music they can dance to, i bought the new mum cd. and it is quite nice indeed. though lately when i get home i put on sasha's xpander really loud. then i listen to some other things. then i eat something. then i go out and watch the football. in there somewhere i go to work. i have no idea what is going on with my life. so today my alarm clock either didn't go off or did and i chose not to hear it - i woke up to see 9:07 staring back at me. so i lept out of bed in a panic and then realized that, by some stroke of good luck, *nobody cares when i get to work*. so i cooked some sausages up and ate them in a leisurely manner. with toast and tea, of course. way too much tedium and not enough smut, i know. next time = better. robyn ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jason.cochrane at xxx.com Fri Jun 14 20:23:50 2002 From: jason.cochrane at xxx.com (jason.cochrane at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 15:23:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Standin' in her chino shirt pulled off clean, got a tattooed tit, says number 13 Message-ID: <2F96BE4C7CC6D211A55F0008C7A4397604F1E6BC@OHSC-EX4> WARNING THIS IS LONG AND SOMEWHAT POINTLESS ... might be entertaining though I was a security guard, I was the guy with the flash light and the big ring of keys. At 17 I had grown a beard, and started seriously drinking. My best friend at the time and musical collaborator had finished school, he had worked for Price Waterhouse the summer before and had saved quite allot of money. Money that by October had been delegated solely to our consuming passion in life, drinking (please excuse the Bukowski-isms... it's hard to talk about those days without sounding a bit like Buk, at that point we were walking talking cliché's). i decided that dropping out of school (grade 11) would probably be the best option because it would allow more time for drinking, and seeing as I wasn't really going any more anyhow it wasn't a very big surprise to anyone. Times were good, our girlfriends were both lovely rich girls from the region just north of us. they loved our deep worldly ways... convincing these lovely ladies to stay with us was not a difficult task. My friend's girlfriend was particularly rich, her father owned a successful logistics company or something. Anyhow, her father hated my friend and forced her to either give him up or leave the bounty that was his parental love. So she packed her bags and moved in with Brandon (my friend). She got a job at a trendy yuppie coffee bar some distance from Brandon's house. So every morning at 5:30am he would get up and drive her to work, she would make us egg salad sandwiches and send him on his merry way. He would then drive directly to my house, let himself in, crash out on my couch until things were moving again. We would sit around and drink most of the day (or what remained of it after we ourselves go moving)we were supposed to be recording an album on a lent four track. I don't think we ever completed a song, the songs all went like this; verse, verse, verse. After we had written a verse we would celebrate our genius... until the genius was drunk as well and so was the drive. By 4:30 his girlfriend would finish work, we would swing by (always about half an hour late) steal the expensive sweet iced capochino drinks, grab a sandwich and her. After which we would proceed to my girlfriends house and back to my house. By this point in the day (around 5:30pm) Brandon and I would be quite loaded. We would have horrible arguments with our respective girlfriends usually trading days of the week. I have never met crueler people than we were in those days. We would get drunk and just fuck with those poor girl's heads... neither of them meant anything to us, actually I shouldn't say that, I was quite in love with Brandon's girlfriend and took many opportunities to take her off his hands for a night so he could get some "rest". Which meant that he could sleep with the a barmaid that gave us double shots for singles. After a dinner of stolen sandwiches and frappachino's we would head for the local bar which was conveniently located down the street from my house... of course we never walked, we might need the car for the after hours clubs downtown.We typically closed the bar, we rarely got cut off. if we did we'd go to another bar (sometimes it was difficult task as I was underage at the time). After 2:00am (last call in Toronto) we would either head out for more drinks (afterhours clubs in Toronto resemble crack houses more than bars, people railing lines off of the table and whatnot) or leave the bar only to come back after the owner had left, to drink with some of the staff. we would usually go until 4:00 or 4:30 and come home for sleep or to wait out the time until Brandon had to go drive his girlfriend to work. We had goals at one point, an album, a book, a film but nothing ever really materialized. I found another girl that frequented the bar her hips popped when she had sex.. she was considerably older than I... divorcee and all of that. She slowly replaced my high school girlfriend. It took about 6 months to spend the $10,000 that Brandon had made that summer before. Brandon's girlfriend paid his rent after she moved in, and I was living rent free in my parents basement. they didn't seem to mind the way things were going, although I don't think they really knew. I was very careful to only be at home when they were either asleep or at work. I only saw them the odd time when they were leaving for work in the morning and I had misjudged the time or what time was all together. Brandon and I had decided that we were moving to Europe. For some reason it just seemed that we belonged there. All of the cool people lived there, and the people that hassled us were simply not clued in to our open and free bohemian life style... people would never hassle us there. I decided that in order to get to Europe I would need some of my own money. I looked and looked for a job but to no avail. finally I met a guy at the bar that was a recruiter for a security company downtown. He said I looked like I could handle my self (I'm 6' tall and 240lbs). He told me to show up the following morning and he would give me an interview. he took to me immediately and I showed up on time ("the key to being a security guard" he said "is to always be on time, you can show up drunk, you can smoke dope, you can sleep.. the only thing you have to do is be ON TIME"). I got the job. once I started working Brandon wasn't too far behind. He got a job working as a sales clerk at a computer mega-store. Eventually we grew apart. It got to the point where I started looking at my surroundings.. the people I worked with and I realized "these people are losers, they are morons, they should all be put down". After that it didn't take too long for me to realized that I was one of them. I was 18 at this point I had been out of school for a year. I looked like I was 40. By Christmas I was out of the Security business and back in high school at 19. I finished my diploma and headed out to the work force (after touring the USA playing trumpet in a Big Band, another story for another time). I now work in a Big building downtown, and I'm now one of the guy's that I used to say "yes sir" to. Brandon did end up going to England. I've started talking to him again via e-mail, he's the night manager of some hotel in Bath. he is apparently coming back to Canada this summer... where we may actually end finishing some music. We are both full out pot-heads now... but hey, if it's not one thing it's the other. When I started this there was a point..... ah yes. I found very hard to give up on my dream of moving to Europe to become some sort of neo/anti beatnik. After reading that post about how dreams die and how do you let go. It got me thinking. I have never been comfortable since I started office work. I don't belong here these are not my type of people... I think I need a change, I think I need to get away, go somewhere interesting. They say you can never run away from your self.. I just think those people just haven't figured it out yet... it's all about the race. I think I have matured somewhat, particularly in my relationships with women. of all things I did in those days, ruining those poor girls is the part I regret the most. they really did love us. We didn't love them at one point, but in the end we just said we did to keep them around, free sandwiches, rent and all. I'm not so sure who got fucked more in the end. if you've read this far I commend you... I meant for this to be a few sentences about dreams. If you did read this far and are pissed you did.. well alright lets talk about that. Some of you people are far too shy, let me have it... again I'm really sorry, Jason +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From anakin_sky at xxx.net Sat Jun 15 16:05:25 2002 From: anakin_sky at xxx.net (anakin_sky at xxx.net) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:05:25 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Sinister: the last broadcast Message-ID: <5148.1024153525@www23.gmx.net> hello people, i feel a bit shaky of only 1 beer, but that´s because i´m sick (bad cold). i just had to watch the england match in case they wouldn´t make it and so i wouldn´t be able to see them any other time. german free telly only shows one match a day, so i had to go to the pub. yeah. 3-0. nice. and germany made it too! might be all the germany-beats-england-in-the-final-by-penalties-business again, YEAH!!! i discovered doves recently (bit late, i know), and i just can´t believe how many "blowing-me-away-completely" bands are from manchester. doves, elbow, i am kloot, these are my favourites, and there are so many more...what is it about this city? and i will move there in september, still can´t believe it... i came back from holiday yesterday, montpellier in the south of france, very very very nice, though a bit small. we had about 30° C every day, so i`d seriously like to know where i caught that cold. maybe when we did that cycling tour on monday when it was extremely windy, but can you catch a cold just because of wind? i doubt it, since it was also that same day i burnt my face and my arms from the sun... hm. tonight it´s the american analog set in dresden, austin business. i´m really looking forward to it, although i´m not supposed to drink, smoke, and move excessively, all of that being unhealthy to my current state of body. god, i keep going on about that, don´t i... anyone living in germany, holland, belgium, or anywhere, and who is thinking about coming to haldern festival, check this out: belle & sebastian, doves, turin brakes, supergrass, the electric soft parade, the notwist, sigur ros, saybia, ian brown, joseph arthur, the leaves, the cooper temple clause, millionaire, gemma hayes. now, a line-up or what? haldern is in the very west of germany, near the dutch border, and the festival is august 9/10. and it´s less than 40 euro including the fees (i believe)! hope to see some of you there, love, anne. -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zoziepop at xxx.com Mon Jun 17 03:09:45 2002 From: zoziepop at xxx.com (Dimitra Daisy) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 05:09:45 +0300 Subject: Sinister: On summer, truthfulness and the nature of parallel worlds Message-ID: Dear Sinister. I don�t know, maybe it�s the heat. Last night something changed � and it feels like it changed suddenly and abruptly. The days have been hot for quite a while (the days have been sunny almost forever) but the nights were cool. Last night came and the temperature didn�t fall, and that fact alone seems to have brought along a new state of existence. It has to do with the air being so warm you notice its presence all over you body all the time. You fall asleep and wake up and walk around surround by warm air. At first the change is upsetting, you�re robbed of your right to wrap up in your sheets and sleep safely; and this constant awareness is, if not anything else, unsettling. It urges people towards their holidays, towards beaches and islands or, sometimes, foreign lands; and all the other things we do to celebrate summer or get away from it. It changes the way people live next to each other too. Everyone keeps their windows open all the time, and suddenly you have to �and it is considered normal and okay to � put up with everyone�s gossip, random conversations, arguments, screaming children, awful music choices and tv noises. This is constant too. At night you hear snoring and coughing and my neighbours can probably hear Stuart sing �I fought in a war� right now. I�d say it was all this that brought the changes, if the changes hadn�t brought themselves along earlier. I saw them in the ways things happened, in the faces people made and the words they used. (Most of them didn�t see it though). And now the feeling that things are changing to become more true to themselves (to look more like what the way they really are deep down) is everywhere. People get sadder and happier and crazier at the same time, because that�s what they really are. And then the first wave of heat died down, and in the few hours before the next one comes, the city air smells wonderful and sweet like nothing but making love in your daydreams. It�s almost rewarding for the fact that I�ll be in a hyperactive mood (so much it almost hurts) for ages. But then in less than four weeks I�ll get away from the Greek summer. I�ll blissfully go and get rained on in London and other places, in another world. And while I�m there that world will feel almost complete. (Complete, not perfect). But then so does this one. In my language, it�s called gravity: it keeps you in place, prevents you from flying and makes reality as concrete, tangible and dominant as it is. And when I add the two worlds I exist in, instead of two halves that make a whole I get something like six quarters. And it still doesn�t look like it should. Ah, well, keep the faith� Dimitra xx _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From supergirl918 at xxx.com Mon Jun 17 00:58:35 2002 From: supergirl918 at xxx.com (Jill Henkels) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 18:58:35 -0500 Subject: Sinister: The fumblings of a shy girl Message-ID: Oh how quickly she returns after tasting the sweetness out of the nursery for the first time... last week i had the pleasure of attending an elbow/doves appearence in the fine city of minneapolis, minnesota, usa. eagerly anticipating the event, i arrived early as some novice to concerts would (which i promise, i am far from). much to my disappointment, those in charge at this get together failed to recognize me (as i am unmistakeable with my brown hair, 5'9 frame, and glasses) and forced me to wait in line with the casual music listeners. scoff. i muttered that they would feel rather embarrassed when someone whispered my status to them. arriving to a show solo tends to generate some buzz; i think that it makes others uncomfortable to think it possible for one to feel entirely entertained standing alone. the reaction to such an event breeds two results: 1. people will push/shove away from the individual in fear that the "loneliness" will spread; and 2. they feel responsible to awaken the individual to her obvious state of loneliness and will save her by asking her ridiculous questions such as "so...are these guys any good?" well, of course you fool, i did, afterall, buy a ticket unlike yourself who won your pass accidentally while trying to score tics to a disturbed performance. and so, i was left alone again. (the bands were nice, but this is not part of the story.) for the doves performance, i elected to view from the back. i spotted a boy sulking next to a pole and was instantly drawn to him. he was a prime example "eye candy" and was "all that and a bag of peanuts." i casually arranged to be plastered next to him as the crowd surged. i resisted the urge to run my hands through the mop of auburn curls and instead whispered in his ear, "i must insist that you tell me whether you are sullen or simply bored." "tired" he replied. never was such a word uttered by a more beautiful creature! i had been proven wrong: love, it exists and will be mine to own. so i did what was only natural: i casually rested my fingertips on his knee and slowly slithered them up his thigh. okay, so i didn't really do that, but in my mind i did and it was great. as the doves section came to a close (they were great, tight) the inevitable decision had to be made: should i choose to casually walk out with the boy of my dreams or rescue my petite bladder in the women's restroom. alas, the bladder soundly defeated true love yet again. that's all right, he probably doesn't like belle & sebastian anyhow. whispers of goodness, jillianne ps. i have no quote but will research one for your enjoyment for my much unanticipated next post. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Sun Jun 16 18:46:12 2002 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Caitlin Pigtails) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 18:46:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Picnic of RAWK! Message-ID: <20020616184612.A1913@candle.btinternet.com> I think I'm still hungover. I definitely feel all eeeurgh on the inside. The reason, of course, is that yesterday there was a PICNIC and I drank far too much. I can't really remember what happened, but I know it was fun. Yesterday's picnic proves once and for all, though, that Scottish Picnics RAWK far more than those softy southerners down in London and Brighton and places like that. For this was -- as far as I know -- the first Sinister picnic to get broken up by the police. Fortunately we didn't get arrested, because Juicy Lucy persuaded them that we were young, innocent, and wouldn't do it again officer definitely, we promise. I would tell you more of what happened, but as I can't really remember more than brief snippets, I'd better not. Cheese was definitely involved, though. And drink. And sitting in the pub topping up your glass from a bottle of vodka under the table. And evil looks, and shouting about stretch marks. Hello to everyone that was there: JEREMY (of course), Kristin, Rachel, Belle, Stefano, Keith, Jamie, Tom, Richard The Lurker, Lucy, Ally, Michael, Carey, Gordon, and everyone else I've forgotten about. And I can't even remember who it was that had the stretch marks. xx caitlin -- "When life gives us lemons, we just sit there and sulk about it, in the corner of the room, in a fetal position." - Matthew Henderson, on the Sinister mailing list. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From savagefistsoffengshui at xxx.com Sun Jun 16 19:19:56 2002 From: savagefistsoffengshui at xxx.com (Colin Campbell) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 11:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Re: UK tape tree revival Message-ID: <20020616181956.17464.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all, In case you missed it last time I posted, here's the second and final call for anyone wanting to take part in the revival of the tape tree that Ben Ferneyhough (and before him Kevan Cooke) used to organise. What happens is that everyone makes a 90-minute compilation tape or CD of his or her favourite music (excluding B&S, because we already know their stuff). Then I'll arrange us into a circle, and every few weeks I'll email everyone to pass on the tape they have. If you would be interested in making a tape or CD (and can do so in the next couple of weeks), please email me OFF LIST, i.e. *PRIVATELY* with your name and town, and I'll add you to the tree. Please note that this is intended for UK residents only, as it would be unfair on some if the postal costs were unequal (although I have had one or two enquiries from people living abroad, so I may be able to arrange a sub-tree for them if there is demand for it). Please let me know whether you'll be making a tape or a CD, and whether you are interested in receiving either or both. Cheers, Colin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From halighhalou at xxx.com Mon Jun 17 06:44:01 2002 From: halighhalou at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 00:44:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: put me in a frock and leave me to recite. Message-ID: hello sinister. i bought knee socks today. white with cable stitching, from the little girls' department at j.c. penney. they were 20 percent off, and i got excited, picking out the package from the rows and rows of pink and white and lavender anklets and tights and crew socks. i bought navy knee socks without cables, and enjoyed my dorky purchase, swinging the bag as i walked, imagining myself in the knee socks. i put some on about an hour later. and i looked at myself in the mirror, liking the socks and the way my twenty-year-old legs looked in them. and i wondered what i was doing, who i was kidding. and then i remembered i was just playing a part, after all, of the girl who never loses the flowers she was born with, only the ones she picked up along the way. *** i think living alone is getting to me. i have started to do everything with a solitary sense of self, going shopping and eating and walking alone. i sit somewhere for hours, with a book or a cigarette or nothing else at all to keep my hands busy, and just watch things happen. watch people holding hands or riding a bike down the street or making a call on a pay phone. i try to remember what it was like to look like i had someone, and i can't. but then i never really had anyone, i finally remember, and i start wishing a song could follow my footsteps. a soundtrack for me. a theme song. but i don't know what the song would be anymore, and i can't think of anyone who would particularly care to hear it, or change the undoubtedly lonely lyrics. so i keep walking, trying not to stare and trying harder to ignore the people leaning out their windows to shout through the summertime that i shouldn't be so down. *** tonight i was walking to get a sandwich, and a woman approached me. she looked lost and a little frantic. to be fair about it, she looked a little like a crazy woman let loose on the streets of lincoln. and she came up to me, wearing a matching red shirt and short set. her face was very tan, and i wondered if she was native american. i looked at the deep and many pock marks on her face, surrounded by a mass of tangled black hair, as she asked me for help. she was in a domestic violence situation, she said, and could i give her some kind of help. i stood there, a little girl in her knee socks, and said the only thing they teach little girls to say to strangers who might be transients. "no, i'm sorry. i can't." walking on, i wondered why i hadn't told her to go to the ymca two blocks down the street. why i hadn't taken out my spoiled suburbian cellular phone to call the police for the name of a shelter. why she had to keep walking to find an elderly couple who gave her what she needed. someone to help her. i thought maybe i hadn't because i was starting to get scared of everything. of everyone. maybe i hadn't because i went with my knee-jerk reaction. maybe she hadn't been telling the truth, was pleading for something else. but in the end, i knew i hadn't helped her because i didn't know how. i didn't know how to help a woman when i was already being asked to save another, one i couldn't save, either. one who was me. and i kept moving forward and tracking back, retracing the same path i have walked so many times, looking at my feet making the pavement disappear. what kind of person am i? i should have helped her. i should have been able to. but instead i was infatuated with myself and a love i will never have. because i am not brave enough to love. i am not brave enough to help. and i am not brave enough to be myself. not anymore. *** someone told me it must take courage to dress the way i do. and i laughed, because i am not brave at all. i told the girl that all it took to wear rainbow-striped knee socks and patent leather shoes in the middle of june was a tiny bit of chutspa. a tiny bit of self-assertion. this boy named austin gave me a bit of advice, and, upon looking at my quivering bottom lip, decided i really wasn't that brave. and told me as much. and somewhere in the back of my mind i remembered something someone wrote to me once. in the middle of may. lou = brave. and i had cried then, and i cried now. lou doesn't equal very much some days, and the days she does she seems to stay inside. maybe if i call her and let the phone ring long enough, she will wake up again and come outside. into the summertime she hates so much. maybe i can learn to be brave. to be me. to help. to love. and to not be scared anymore. maybe i can learn to just be. no matter what kind of socks i have on. love, lou xxx ------------------ THE FOLLOWING IS AN ADVERT FOR EXCELLENCE: never learned how to ride a bike? merely flailed helplessy in a chlorine-laced pool when trying to learn to swim? come to Camp Kids Who Gave Up 2002, sponsored by lindsey baker, dave snyder and conor oberst to learn to ride and swim like nobody's business! while you're temporarily residing on our beautiful, secluded island paradise camp, enjoy lessons from friendly guest instructors such as mandee wright and listen to a different live band every night (we feature saddle creek gems and omaha rapists)! dating lindsey is also an available option, so long as conor is off-island. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vote4dyer at xxx.com Mon Jun 17 07:20:54 2002 From: vote4dyer at xxx.com (Ramesh Srivastava) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:20:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Does anyone want to live with me at Glasgow Uni this coming fall? Message-ID: I would really like to avoid living in another dorm this coming school year and I'm pretty collected and clean. At least we would have one thing in common. This is a tacky solicitation, but it's a last desperate attempt. I am supposed to send in my housing form tomorrow. In other news, I'm still a construction worker, but my parents have left me with the house for three weeks, so life is grand. I watched Hilary and Jackie tonight, which I like, and I still have Breathless to see... Yeah! THis might not be the best way to find a roommate, but no harm in trying, eh? Sorry for the list abuse (I know everybody always writes that and it's starting to lose meaning) and it won't happen again. PS THanks for all the New Order reccomendations. That band is fucking brilliant. Cheers, Remy _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Jun 17 17:50:57 2002 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 17:50:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Go Stuff Yesterday Message-ID: <000001c2161f$2a241440$c58501d5@oemcomputer> Hi All You Sinister Foxx, Sadly its not possible for me to make it up for the gig at the QMU, but I wish everyone who is lucky enough to be able to go a wonderful time. Best wishes for a grate time also to the Sini-Glasto mob. Caitlin Pigtails is a pricknick teaser: we want to know more! Why did the Glasgae pubnic have to be broken up by the polis? What were all you lot getting up to? Drinking under age, or something? I know that a lot of you out there love Isobel, & care as little for that "sound of a hamster asphyxiating on a furball of its own fluffiness" stuff as I do. Well, her new album with Bill Wells, of little known Billie Holliday covers, is out today. See http://www.creepingbent.org/artists/view_artist.asp?id=11 for details (and a marvellous Beauty & The Beast pic as well.) Apparently there's a gig on Friday at the CCA too.* Oh, Stevie plays harmonica on one track. I haven't had time to listen to it , so can't offer an opinion on its artistic merit yet. Everyone has their own criteria for judging value for money, but the only point I would like to make before you rush off & buy it is that it clocks in at exactly one second longer than .... .... 19 minutes, so please be careful how much you end up paying for it. * What a bummer for Glasgow residents, for this clashes with the second outing of the Wonderful Winchester Club (at the The Woodside Social club, north Woodside road - which is just off great Western road at kelvinbridge) featuring mad axeman Malcolm Middleton of quietly violent Arab Strap. Er, what else? Nothing really, except I may finally get to meet the the Sinister person I most want to encounter in person later this summer. Yippeee! That'll be wonderful! Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From foranotherdream at xxx.com Mon Jun 17 17:48:41 2002 From: foranotherdream at xxx.com (bus stoppers) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 09:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: will 12 songs = 60 minutes? Message-ID: <20020617164841.72340.qmail@web12401.mail.yahoo.com> ===== all the people'd stare as if we were both quite insane someday my name and his are going to be the same __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From foranotherdream at xxx.com Mon Jun 17 17:55:28 2002 From: foranotherdream at xxx.com (bus stoppers) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 09:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: i am a silly dummy Message-ID: <20020617165528.23771.qmail@web12404.mail.yahoo.com> here''s the real e-mail...i pwomise! okay, here are the songs for my ex-boys so far: side a chris-(crazy for you but) not that crazy ronda-the death of ferdinand de saussure eric-underwear dave-punk love dominic-it's a crime mike-absolutely cuckoo side b ty-love in the shadows ryan-if you don't cry luke- very funny jonathan-let's pretend we're bunny rabbits steve-all my little words sean-the things we did and didn't do so when i was writing up my list, i found that i really am bad with song titles. i never know what they are. i will admit to knowing a slim few, but it can still be safely concluded that i am shit when it comes to naming a title at the sound of a certain song. such a shame. all those clever spurts of words and i don't know enough of them! how frustrating it was to know the song and the words, but have to look at the paper, the pen, the booklet, the cd player tract number...back and forth back and forth...whew...i almost went cross eyed. but all is said and done now. love, sara ===== all the people'd stare as if we were both quite insane someday my name and his are going to be the same __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Tue Jun 18 02:34:44 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 02:34:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: this thursday In-Reply-To: <04cd01c213a8$0221d3c0$be04fd3e@neil> Message-ID: Hello! Just a quick reminder that this Thursday is the next How Does It Feel To Be Loved? Our guest DJ is Harvey Williams (The Field Mice/Trembling Blue Stars) and it's at the Buffalo Bars, underneath the Famous Cock Tavern, outside Highbury & Islington tube, £3 in, 9pm-2am. Our playlist is: The Smiths * The Supremes * The Go-Betweens * Dusty Springfield * Belle & Sebastian * Tammi Terrell * Aztec Camera * The Ronettes * Orange Juice * Beach Boys * The Temptations * Velvet Underground * Felt * The Shangri-Las * Primal Scream * Otis Redding * The Field Mice * The Stone Roses * Dexys Midnight Runners * The Four Tops * Dolly Parton * The Orchids If you have any requests please let us know. More details on the website: http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk Went to see The Polyphonic Spree tonight and still feel vaguely speechless. Here's the weblog entry I managed to cobble together for the site. See you Thursday! Ian June 17th: Another Monday at the Festival Hall. This time to see the Polyphonic Spree, a choral symphonic pop band from Dallas Texas, with 24 members all wearing cassocks. The album is a joyous blend of Plush, The Beach Boys and Mercury Rev, and live they're like Jesus Christ Superstar crossed with Sgt Pepper. Very odd, very beautiful, extremely spectacular, inspiring, scary, bewildering, like nothing I've ever seen before really. I'll play some on Thursday if anyone wants to hear it. I did consider dedicating the first 35 minutes of the club to the first nine songs on their album, because you really should experience this music, but I'm not sure if everyone's sanity could take it. Mine has been stretched quite a bit by tonight. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From flyingfishstick at xxx.com Tue Jun 18 09:24:29 2002 From: flyingfishstick at xxx.com (Ellie (loves red shoes)) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 03:24:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Sex continues to confound me. Message-ID: <200206180729.DAA01811@mail.multiboard.com> Lovely Sinisterians, Given my somewhat unfortunate history with relationships, you could say I was a girl looking for love in all the wrong places. You could say that, that is, if you are one prone to hackneyed clich�s -- as I occasionally am. After making an impetuous declaration to no longer date the types I�d been dating, I was plunged into six months of tortured celibacy. I finally sought to rectify this situation last Friday in that Holy Grail of swingerdom: the no-strings attached [assumedly] emotionless casual sex. Never being one to get something right the first time, however, I give the activity absolutely no forethought and ended up selecting the housemate of my best friend as my mate. (Mistake, especially since I am temporarily living in said house.) In short, I think I am simply not emotionally equipped to spend the day following my first sexual encounter with someone utterly alone. In an act of unintentional abandonment, he went off for the weekend and I spent the day paying bills, reading every old Newsweek in the house, and skimming a rather boring book of Celtic fairy tales. When he finally returned (disinterested in anything I�d cooked in my bout of domesticity) we exchanged only the most cursory greetings (most of which consisted of me relaying his phone messages, anyway) and he went downstairs to play bass, making the whole house vibrate with Weezer chords. I wanted nothing more than someone to talk to, but instead had to settle for sitting on the porch railing, alone, with a mug of hot cocoa, and watching the pedestrians. In those several hours I had to contemplate Grand Things on our dingy porch across from an even dingier motel, the only thing I could think of was, If I can�t have relationships and I can�t have casual sex, what can I have? (if the answer is a one-woman Yankee Hotel Foxtrot sing-a-long on a rainy summer evening, I suppose I�ll just have to settle for that.) Ellie. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Hewitt at xxx.uk Tue Jun 18 11:26:00 2002 From: S.Hewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:26:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: S-A-T-U-R D-A-Y, HEY! Message-ID: ello babies, my name's Steve and I like Belle & Sebastian. amykins was bigging up shirley beans' nite, yet seemed to have got the running order wrong, who is this fletcher woman? and this johnson bloke? to be headlining over our very own gail o'hara? what will the lumberjacks think? speaking of people we never hear from any more, I see chrys lynnyrd's movie career is going well, shame about the perm... it is him in thunderpants isn't it? also i was watching "would like to meet" on bbc2 the other nite and the single woman on the programme was advised to do some performance poetry to build her confidence. and where better to do this than scene of many a sinister love-in at the poetry cafe. good thing mr trousers has moved on, otherwise the programme would only have been half as long ;) caitlin whispered dark secrets about glasgae, contravening the strict rules of Reporting Back. we want names, places, events. David Moore wondered if he'd mentioned that eff this ess sounds like raindrops keep falling on my head, but a quick archival rummage produced only hopkins blathering on about mucky ska records and someone called "fluffy candarel", what kind of a name is that... anyhoo, it's GLASTO next week and lots of yr little sini-friends are going. are you going? are you on siniglasto? why not??? look, here it is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/siniglasto not that we've actually organised anything like a meet-up or anything yet, but i'm sure we'll get around to it before next thursday ... but before then on S-A-T-U-R D-A-Y (yes, i have been listening to the langley schools music project quite a bit) there is bowlinbowlinbowlinbowlin, which should clearly be at ROWANS by finsbury park tube, whoever it is that's organising it, anyone? anyone? bueller? hopefully i will not be quite as rub as last time but i fear i shall, so worry not people who think they can't bowl, you can stand next to me and look half decent... also on thursday the N london sinister massive (well, me, dappers, chu and marianne at least) will be representin' at "how does it feel...". just what you need before a 7.30am kickoff, drinking 'til 2... xoxo CarsmileSteve PS Why does nobody talk about the breakfast club and pretty in pink any more? **************************************************************************** For the latest City Lit news & information, please visit our website www.citylit.ac.uk **************************************************************************** The City Literary Institute Registered Office: 16 Stukeley Street, London WC2B 5LJ Registered in England no: 2471686 Registered Charity no: 803007 *************************************************** PRIVACY AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. *************************************************** This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Tue Jun 18 14:22:54 2002 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 20:22:54 +0700 Subject: Sinister: on a recipe tree, would you like to be? Message-ID: Hello, Would anyone be interested in being in a recipe tree like thing? seeing as how i have a 5 week break from uni i thought i could even attempt to organise it. I thought it could maybe work by people telling me if they would like to participate (OFF LIST of course), then i would pick people (say, one person/week or fortnight)randomly to send me a recipe (maybe 2 recipes, one always having to be vegetarian), and i could then forward it to everyone who had registered their interest. That should be quite easy for me to organise (i'm not very good at organising - i seem to be quite good at using parenthesis but). Someone keen could even design a nice cover and everyone could make their very own Sinister cookbooks! i hope all that makes sense. So if you are interested please email me OFF LIST. everyone else seems to put that in big letters so i thought i should too. i am going ice skating tomorrow and shall be attempting to do a pirouette on ice. I think i will look like a fool rather than cool. And for some topical content, here are some B & S lyrics concerning food/drinks: "Not everyone's cup of tea she would admit to me" "Talking dirty, for a hobby it's fine So pour another glass of wine I'll think of England this time" "When the first cup of coffee tastes like washing up She knows she's losing it, yeah she's losing it" well, mainly drink related. i'm sure there are lots more. have a nice day. terry _________________________________________ Communicate with others using Lycos Mail for FREE! http://mail.lycos.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From polishmule at xxx.com Tue Jun 18 15:11:30 2002 From: polishmule at xxx.com (Richard Pattison) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:11:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: what is that, a shrimp? Message-ID: Hey sinister, My name is Richard and this is my first post. On Saturday I attended the picnic of RAWK. It was my first sinister picnic and I�d like to thank everyone for making me feel welcome: Jamie, Idleberry, Gayle, Keith, Thomas, Lucy, Jeremy, Caitlin, Stefano, Michel, Callum, Gordon, Ally, Beer and anyone else I cant remember because I may have been too drunk ( you know who you are even if I don�t) Picnic of Rawk was an apt description by caitlin I think. The male policeman seemed quite nice but the female police lady seemed particularly evil. She subsumed herself to the myth/fact of sinister criminal potency and followed through with truncheons/affirmitive language. My last run in with authority was when the security guard at my uni halls told me to turn down the VU (apparently his life hadn�t been saved by rock �n� roll). So I think the picnic wins the title of most rawk. Meanwhile whilst perusing guestbooks I noticed that Stuart Murdoch has finally reached the pinnacle of literary achievment (see Jan 27th) http://books.dreambook.com/ptpittman/sodastream.html Regards, Richard _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jason.cochrane at xxx.com Tue Jun 18 16:13:51 2002 From: jason.cochrane at xxx.com (jason.cochrane at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:13:51 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The Way the Dead Love Message-ID: <2F96BE4C7CC6D211A55F0008C7A4397604F1E6CE@OHSC-EX4> Ah... what to do, indeed.... I need un-biased advice...because I know what I want to do.... I'm just not sure what I am suposed to do.... I met two lovely girls on the weekend, they're on the slutty side but all and all they are not bad people. They both moved out to Toronto last month from P.E.I. to take jobs and an apartment. Turns out one of them has something of a crush on me. Only problem is she is 17 (for the record it should be noted that it would not be illegal for me to do anything with her, not in Canada anyway besides she turns 18 in literally 2 weeks) and I am 21. She wants me to take her out dancing and drinking friday night...... I don't know how to respond to that... these are not "nice" girls by any stretch of the imagination, they drink quite alot, and do a lot of drugs that I don't do anymore (and some I do). It's not like they have mummy's and daddy's waiting for them at home and are in high school. I would never have thought that they were so young.. if they hadn't told me. So here I sit, waiting for a return phone call from her and I dont' quite know what to say. She is quite attractive and I am most certainly not. Is it possible to be a letch at 21? -Jason +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Tue Jun 18 16:38:59 2002 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_[Steady-State]?=) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:38:59 +0200 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Come_on_and_wreck_my_car,_come_on_and_wreck_my_country?= Message-ID: Heido Sinister As mentioned by the always almighty Ken Chu there has been kind of bad mood waving trough the sinistrer recently. Me being one of the ship drowning character I’ll try to do my best, supported by a consistent number of pints after the footy... btw have anyone noticed italy have lost their mach again against korea as inn1966 and who did won the competition that time? .. shhhshshshhhhhhhhh...../ So hat can I do the invert the trend... in my little own I tried to stop posting :) but actually I can report some at least one good new from me own: I could came back safe from home and do not have to join the army hopefully at least until September... which is not too bad considering i was supposed to be there... TOMORROW... while I can stay rather happily in London, moreover I’m probably moving from the place I’m actually staying [as soon as possible] and will be a nice occasion to immediately trash my new place... if any sinister want to give me a hand is just welcome! Mail me and will occur in the disgrace of meet me... I’ve recently managed to lose all my documents, hence it would have been quite funny to testify to the Glasgow police officer {Madame} who the hell was the guy drinking in the park... I don’t know how we could manage to look like very sorry and twee tourists who didn’t know you’re supposed to be sober while walking trough (lovely) Scottish windmills(?) ruins.... but no one underage, might be Bell, but she didn’t drunk that much, did she?? Thank you SO much to all the people who have been up there which has been mostly mentioned before and hence my contribution would be over redundant in this case... ~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~# Sinister Invasion of Centre Italy. Well, that is just a kind of dream... the sinister collective to Occasion: ‘Frequanxe disturbate’ [biased frequencies] Festival in Urbino Italy... Give me a reason Why: Reason #1: here is the program: 1nd August: GIANT SAND Afterhours One Dimensional Man 2nd August: MARK LANEGAN Midwest 3rd August: MOGWAI IKARA COLT Emidio Clementi Not too bad isn’t it? Reason #2: location. The festival is located in one of the mot wonderful Italian Renaissance cities, Urbino. The site is absolutely stunning, and is not from most of the other beautiful centre-italian cities (i.e. Gubbio, Assisi, Perugia, etc.. all connected by bus... by which you can get to Rome if brave enough ) Reason #3 the accommodation is very cheap if booked in advanced [ I mean in reasonable advance], something like 5/7 quid per day, in rooms facing the very centre of the city.. in front of duke Ferdinando II di Montefeltro (Ferdinado the 2nd of Montefeltro... portrayed by Piero della Francesca) Reason #4: Ryanair is fling to a rather close airport (about 2:30), and it is going to be possible to get in the city by an about an hour bus journey. Reason #5... I can’ find any other reason... but I have tried at least... Well if anyone interested please just e-mail and swear I’ll do my best.. BTW I’ve been there the last two years and It has been amazing {might be consider reason number #6? No because I am not reliable}.. Take care, love stefano PS; bonus points to mach the headline citation :) Here's a prediction: when you have stories to tell, you'll tell them. D.G. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Tue Jun 18 20:53:37 2002 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 20:53:37 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: A load of old rubbidge Message-ID: <20020618195337.78801.qmail@web14206.mail.yahoo.com> You know, sometimes not writing to Sinister for ages and ages and ages means you suddenly have a whole great load of things to say all at once and you have to post twice in as many weeks! I feel a whole host of headings coming on. *Picnic Apologies* 1. To Stefano for forcing him to endure my drunken Italian ramblings 2. To everyone else for forcing them to endure my drunken English ramblings 3. To the delectable Ally C for actually forgetting he was at the picnic until last night (I am the lowest of scumbags) 4. To anyone who came within sniffing distance of my chunk of cheese 5. To the polis for drinking in public. Actually, no apology thereI change my mind, I don't apologise for this. You can do it in Primrose Hill. Sniff 6. To all of YOU for not being able to give an adequate list of names and places, especially after Caity Pig went all coy on you. See point three above for further details of appalling memory loss *Nuts* The Brazilian contingent seem to have been rather quiet of late. Does this have anything to do with the football? While we’re on the subject of ball-chasing, let’s all commiserate with Big Gay Mark who watched Italy get whumped by Korea today, poor luv. Having said that, did anyone else totally love the free kick that went straight under the jumping wall? *Slutty girls* Jason, make Honey proud. Do it. *Thai lovelies* I am extremely annoyed at Oon for choosing to bless our fair isle with her presence while Ally and I will be in Sweden. Pah! Still, a trip to Malmo/Kalmar/indiemusicfestivalthingies might give us the opportunity to meet up with Scandinavian list types - anybody else going? *Blatant List Abuse* Having written a Proper Post, I feel entitled to put in a teensy bit of promotional material at this point: THE WINCHESTER CLUB THIS FRIDAY WOODSIDE SOCIAL CLUB, GLASGOW FEATURING *MALCOLM MIDDLETON OF ARAB STRAP FAME* *TROIKA* *HOT DJ ACTION* Right, that’s your lot Juicy Lucy ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From foranotherdream at xxx.com Tue Jun 18 21:26:13 2002 From: foranotherdream at xxx.com (bus stoppers) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: de-flowered a second time Message-ID: <20020618202613.79926.qmail@web12404.mail.yahoo.com> dearest dears, so as of this past weekend, i have met two sinisters. (is that list abuse? i honestly hope that i am not committing a crime...) a meet-up of sorts took place on saturday. mr. john wojcik took me out on a high school date. it was all very new to me as i had never been on a real date before and all. john, my precious valentine, took me out to prove to me that not every male with a big thing is an A-hole. and he succeeded. as of saturday, i now realize with my new-found reality, that there really are possiblities of hanging out with guys and going out with them and not being treated like a piece of female cake to be devoured at all costs. we had sushi. we had beer. and had cheek kisses. the only problem now is that he lives on the opposite coast and though we are always there, we aren't there close enough. i miss him... gotta take the good and beautiful with the not so fun because that's what it's all about. friends are a gift that one needs to always except. love, sara hug a friend today :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Jun 18 22:53:15 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: we kiss in his room, to a popular tune, oh, real drowners. Message-ID: <20020618215315.31530.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinister, as you might have guessed, there was a "picnic" on Saturday in Breams' honour. We had inteded on celebrating after he left the country, but we were too impatient to wait. I say picnic, in inverted commas,because I'd personally been hoping for an orgy. Wrong party, I guess. I could tell you lots of things about it, but I see that pigtails, lucy, And Richard The Lurker (Is that like, a title, like Richard the Lionheart? Or Alexander The Great?) and co have beaten me to it, and Richard has thus renounced his throne by not lurking. Doh! Breams put me in charge of his guitar until he returns. I was considering setting up a guitar creche, so if theres anyone with nicer guitars than mine, who would like their little darlings to be looked after by one almost careful person, then let me know. Then I started remembering how I got my first guitar. *the screen goes all hazey as we are transported back to 1994* I was 15. It was the year Kurt Cobain shot himself, only a few months after I'd discovered who he was. I didn't actually discover him- I like to think that was some record company man, but i only found out who he was recent to his death. It was the year that Suede released "Stay Together" and Bernard Butler left; The year when Wet Wet Wet were at number 1 for 15 weeks- toppled by some dizzy dididadida dane singing about saturday night. And I was fifteen, in my fourth year, about to take my standard grade exams. I'd met this boy. I had met boys before, but this was a special sort of boy- the sort you fancy. Not that he was much to look at. He had long, tangled dark brown hair, he wore black scuffed Doc Marten boots and black jeans. He had deep dark brown eyes, and wolf teeth- a spare set of teeth growing through his upper gum. He liked to wear four tops- A lemonheads one (Come On Feel The Lemonheads, I think) A levellers one, a Carter USM one and I can't remember the last one. He used to wear his short sleeved t shirt over his long sleeved one, usually under a plaid shirt, all hangin' very loose and baggy. He was a minger. He was my rock god. (well, apart from Brett Anderson, but thats another story... bottom slapping flouncer- no wonder I got into Belle And Sebastian...) This boy I fancied. He worked in the school library. He barely ever spoke, but when he did, he had this rumbling deep voice. Himand his friends used to sit at lunch times reading the NME, and saying "fuck" alot, and doing Beavis And Butthead impressions. Me? I had no indie friends. I'd only just discovered Animal Nitrate the year before by accident on my Smash Hits compilation tape, and had secretly been trying to get my head round why I found those wailing orgasmic guitars so darn sexy- without my parents overhearing it from my room when i was obviously supposed to be studying. I had posters of Keanu Reeves and Johnny Depp and Evan Dando, taken from Just 17 when they went grunge, and Smash Hits, tucked inside my blue ring binder for Technological Studies. I kept Smash Hits stickers of Brett Anderson in my private "Keep out! Really Private!!! If you read this I'll kill you!!" diary, with words and phrases like "Brett Anderson- 100% official sexgod" written next to it, in gold pen. I still have this dairy, and its a hoot to read actually. Anyway, this boy. I asked him out. He said yes. I was over the moon. I sort of asked him out actually. I think I called him a tosser or something, and then flirted with him for a week. Every time I saw him, he blushed at me. It started off with a discussion about music, and how he was going to see Nirvana play, in April in Edinburgh- it might have been Glasgow though. And I asked if he had a spare ticket. And he said no. And I asked why not. And he looked a bit confused. And I called him a tosser, cos he should have gotten m one, and then we were inseperable. The relationship itself lasted a month. We never got round to kissing. I wrote in my diary, how I tried to kiss him, but he moved away, and I missed. And I got his chin instead, and headbutted his nose in the process. Towards the end, he stopped talking to me. He wouldn't even acknowledge me, and started drooling over pictures of Eva Herzigova, who I think had started her Wonderbra "Hello Boys!" campaign, and acting basically, like a boy. And I don't ever like being ignored. So after a week of deliberating, and conferring with my friends by messages written in the back of orange maths jotters during class (we didn't have mobile phones back in those days) I decided our relationship was over. I was about to start study leave for my standard grades, so I sat, one evening in April, writing him a "Dear John" letter. His name wasn't john, by the way. I remember it so well, sitting here at my desk, as I am now. The sky had turned to late dusk, and I had my lamp on, and was listening to The Evening Session on Radio One, back in the days when I taped it, and Jo Whiley still presented it. I remember they played a song by Motorcycle Boy called "Big Rock Candy Mountain" while I wrote this letter. Anyway.I posted the letter. I went for a walk with a pal, who I went to primary school with. She had went to a different secondary school, and after a rocky start (Her dad made her wear school uniform and carry a breifcase on her first day, that he had bought her for her birthday. She got bullied rotten for a year. By 14, she rebelled against going to church on sundays and wearing laura ashley dresses, listening to music he didn't like, playing guitar instead of attending piano lessons- eventually he raided her room- throwing out her clothes, tapes, and posters of Axl Rose, He made her do lessaons at schoolshe didn't want to- so she made her own portfolio for standard grade Art with the help of her art teacher so she could do it as a higher subject. She went on to become an art therapist, and lives in Birmingham now, working with kids.) Her name was Deirdre. Her boyfriend was best mates with mine. Deirdre listened to my story, and I kept insisting I was over him. Only hours after I'd written this letter. Then iwent home and cried. Study leave came and went.I regretted dumping him. He carried on. He didn't want anything to do with me. The summer term arrived. So did a new crush.Another boy who was into music. His pal fancied my pal. We plotted together to get my friend, Jennifer and his friend together. His name was Andy. Andy was great. He did even better impressions of Beavis And Butthead, and was twice as chatty as the first guy I fancied. We even went out- into edinburgh. We went to play laserquest, and then to the cinema, all with the idea of getting his pal and mine together, on thi double date. Throughout the summer holidays, I couldn't think of anyone else but Andy. I went to Norway, and told my pal there about this guy I liked back home. After summer holidays, Andy ignored me. (see a pattern?) My pal Jennifer changed schools, and I was on my own. At first, I thought "ok, he's back from holiday. No pressure. He'll get round to talking to me, after he's seen his guy pals" but thatnever happened. The indie kids at school didn't like me. I was an outcast with my own kind. They went to Teenage Fanclub gigs, and I wanted to go with them, but I wasn't allowed. They wouldn't let me go with them. The kids at school bullied me. I was in fifth year. I got it from all angles. From the younger year. From my year. I'd hide in a corer of the library, writing stories, just to get through lunchtimes and breaktimes. Andy called me cruel names, so did his pals. They sneered when I walked past. I soon got over my crush for Andy. But I began to miss the guy I'd been out with. He'd been my boyfriend, if only for a month. Surely he must be different? deeper? So anyway. All the boys were into guitars. So what did I do? Decided to ask for a guitar for my 16th birthday. Sure enough, I got one, from a music shop in Hamilton. When I went to tell these blokes, they asked what sort it was. "Accoustic" "Accoustic guitars are shit.". There was a lot more mess at 16, and pretty much for most of being 16, I got bullied. I tried to fit in, but I didn't. I was weird. I was a freak. They caled me that. They wrote it on the blackboard in the common room. So I just listened to Suede on my walkman, and wrote stories and poems. Eventually, it got better. But not for a while. Still. I got a guitar. Sometimes, I'm guilty of buying things to impress people. And usually, it doesn't impress. Like the time I bought a Velvet Underground album so this other bloke would like me, when I was 18. But. The best bit. Forgetting the boys- all the boys- I got some cool stuff. And the remenants of teenage "please like me" moments, are things I love now. My guitar. My Velvet Underground album. I'd rather have them than the boys. You can always have more fun with a guitar than you can with a teenage boy. It'll last a lot longer and be your faithful companion when you need it most. And whats more, I'm off to pretend to be 15 again, and pogo round my room to Suede. she sells hearts, she sells meat, oh dad, shes driving me mad, come see ;) Like. what-eva. idleberry ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Tue Jun 18 23:20:44 2002 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 23:20:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "She was an integral part of the group, but she hasn't been for a couple of years." Message-ID: <000501c21716$672fcb20$55cc7ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, Another of those irritating shorties, but prolly the last for a while, as I have to go back to work at Bimbo Central tomorrow :( Anyway, In Another Place the Filthy Parson posted this link, & I found the story it lead to quite intersting: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/music/newsid_2051000/2051213. stm Is there something Sinister happening in London on Saturday? If so could someone post some details or tell me where they are to be found, please. And don't you know The Clientele are playing RoTa that evening, & its free? :) Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Tue Jun 18 23:57:24 2002 From: rfadden at xxx.com (rrrrobyn) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: 'i love you because you gave me sausage and cheese when i was hungry' Message-ID: <20020618225724.71440.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> people! that subject line is an actual line from a mountain goats song called 'earth air water trees'. i can barely believe it. i think that even though it's not b&s it should be a sinister mantra. especially if we added 'and wine'. aaw. (how can the topic of cheese be so popular? i guess b/c it's *cheese*. yum.) a bit sad this morning. but i'm listening to the lucksmiths, which is making me exponentially happier. watching the italy-korea match was weird. the cafe was packed full of italians and i was tired. it reminded me of highschool, and you know how it is when you're reminded of highschool... a kind of grimey nostalgia, and you'd rather not feel any nostalgia at all. also, i was kind of cheering for both teams, myself. wrong of me? i am a fence-sitting canadian of the highest order. so when korea won i both feigned indignant disbelief and smiled from ear to ear. life, eh? can't make a decision to save it. so i've been wanting to be outdoors lately, like camping in the wildes of british columbia. but instead i've been sitting in cafes with smelly old italian men and shouting at a tv screen. summer solstice is on friday though, so i think i may do something like go to the beach and watch the sun go down. y'know, to remind me of the natural connection between cycles and progress, and in there the straight-up beauty of it all. aah, yeah, that's nature. sigh. i don't know, i really can't believe i got into watching the world cup as much as i have. a readily adopted obsession. can't imagine that i ever once thought that 4am was too early to wake up to watch the semifinals, let alone the final. pshaw, i didn't even go to sleep on friday night. one grows so much in two weeks. (aaagh. robyn falls asleep at her desk.) also, i told myself not to write to sinister while this tired. y'know, so tired i don't feel tired anymore but my eyelids won't budge past halfway open. yar. i'm actually almost as excited about these two consecutive nights of full-on sleep as i am about the upcoming matches. excited in an under-the-covers-drinking-tea-and-falling-asleep-reading kind of way. yes, so for some reason, i'm going to hit 'send' anyway. i'm just going to say also that i wanted to address things in other people's posts b/c i do read them and they make me think, laugh, cry, etc., but right now i'm not so hot in the 'memory' department. and it seems so far away from the 'wit and other accessories' department. i'm just going to buy this 50%-off pair of neon socks and be done with it. apologies. lobby please, robyn p.s. oh yeah, right, i was going to list some good mountain goats songs to (gasp) download even if you (shock horror) don't like the mountain goats (if you give it a chance, i will give, um, elliot smith a chance (yes, that's how to win friends, robyn...)), but then, y'know, the brain not working thing... so maybe just check out songs from 'nothing for juice' and 'nine black poppies' and, i don't know, the song 'going to georgia' is great too. also, the extra glenns 'martial arts weekend' album. the mountain goats just makes me happy even though a lot of the songs are about sad things. ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brianraindogs at xxx.com Wed Jun 19 10:40:52 2002 From: brianraindogs at xxx.com (Brian McNeill) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 09:40:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: an enquiry. . . Message-ID: Is the new Bowie album 'heathen' any good? I've read pretty decent reviews but I ain't too sure. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From raskolnikoff_01 at xxx.com Wed Jun 19 12:17:45 2002 From: raskolnikoff_01 at xxx.com (Richard Skinner) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 12:17:45 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: hello lurvely twee people. this is gonna be a short one, but are any of you peeps living in paris, wpould like to meet up, well if so let me know,im around for the wole summer. richard _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brazilp at xxx.ie Wed Jun 19 12:21:15 2002 From: brazilp at xxx.ie (trish delish) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 12:21:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: here comes the sun Message-ID: <3D11089F@ntserver-e2w2.tcd.ie> hello there another short and sweet un from me, just came across this on the beeb's website and i thought some of you might be interested, though there isn't really a huge amount of substance. also, am i the only one who's getting a bit tired of the fact that every media piece on B&S seems to include the history of the band's formation? it just seems to me to be a bit lazy, personally i'd rather they asked more questions, but maybe i'm just strange the link is here anyway http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/music/newsid_2051000/2051213.stm has anyone heard from Mr the Pinefox or Most Reverend the Dirty Vicar? plans were afoot for a mini sini dublin meetup, and i just hope they weren't inspired by the intrepid glaswegian hooligans and tried to get rowdy...i fear the vicar's too genteel a character to cope with the dublin bouncers' famous left hook in other news, i may be in London early August, i'm giving plenty of advance warning so i expect wonders upon marvels to be planned... alternatively a drink might be nice? hope you're all keeping well trish delish +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Wed Jun 19 13:39:17 2002 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 13:39:17 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: Sinister: she had a stroke at the age of 24 Message-ID: hello sinister. it's my birthday today, you know. i think i am now officially 'mid-twenties'. waaaaah! i am now installed in my new flat after a horrible week facing the Pile Of Stuff That Came From Nowhere And Grew And Grew. two people in their early - i mean mid :( - twenties should NOT have this many THINGS. we should be cool young drifters with no ties and no responsibilities. but fuck that, my mum is buying me a washing machine! having taken up my keyboard in a fit of motivation, i feel like putting it down again, as i may not have as much to say as i thought. oh, except that i am looking forward to my sinister bitches (or ken and mark, and they prefer to be known) coming down on friday for all kinds of mischief courtesy of the moldy peaches :) and i will also contribute to the 'what fuck this shit sounds like' debate by saying: anne dudley's incidental music for the full monty. but that's probably just me. i may find myself coming to london on saturday, if i'm not too debauched after the gig/orgy, so i'll see some of you there if so! luv archel xxx ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com Wed Jun 19 10:43:03 2002 From: pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com (hannah brown) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:43:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: only me! Message-ID: hello and welcome to MY NEW ADDRESS, isn't it fab, a bit of a pain to type though, you have to jump from left to right all the time.I must say, it feels very luxurious being on hotmail. ThaNK you HONEY for whipping me out of the nusery as soon as i arrived. Now that the sun is shining people seem to be talking about relationships and love, there have been some wonderful stories and tales but it is all getting a bit depressing now. I fear i could quite possibly be the shyest most socially backward person in the whole of Blighty (well, maybe not but i am definitely crap). So i've liked this guy for months, he is lovely, he is single, he is friendly, he is great. I managed so far to do him two tapes, each time leaving it a few weeks before asking him "what do you think of it", he tells me then i go "great" and run off into a little corner as far away as possible. I have even bought two tickets for a gig in the intention to ask him to go with me, this gig is on sunday and i havent asked him yet, i have a horrible feeling it's just not going to happen. And if it does, well, shit, that's even more scary. Shyness makes me want to smash things. I won't be able to go bowling, snif, or go to "how does it feel" double-snif BUT i am going to FORCE myself to do something saturday evening so if there is any shenanegans happening text me :07714352796 and if anyone wants to go see the clientele (david M) let me know coz i would LOVE to see them. thanks love hannah bxxxxxxxxxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Thu Jun 20 00:09:06 2002 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 00:09:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a chara, na caith tabac In-Reply-To: <3D11089F@ntserver-e2w2.tcd.ie> Message-ID: Inspired by a post from the lovely Ms Delish, I must send you a quick note on The Pinefox's visit to Dublin. He came to Dublin. we had the biggest EVER Dublin Sinister meetup - FIVE people in a pub (The Palace, historical haunt of Myles na gCopaleen and that bloke who used to get bought pints by tourists because he looked like Samuel Beckett), four of whom were Sinister subbers (Rener, Wookie, Pinefox, me). Bloody brilliant, eh. at one point the Langley Schools Music Project was discussed. Like Carsmile I have been assimilated into liking this lovely record. I was listening to it the other day at home and there was this bit where this child starts singing 'The Long And Winding Road' and waves of emotion washed over me and I started crying. If only my parishioners could have seen. The Pinefox, meanwhile, likes LSMP because of all the Wings songs on it. And in fairness to the Pinefox, 'Venus & Mars/Rock Show' & 'Band On The Run' sound really good sung by hyperactive ten year olds, so I have now revised my theory that Wings are not a good band. since The Pinefox skipped the country his visit has been a subject of discussion on popular mailing list ie-indie. small world, eh. Ms Delish also said: > in other news, i may be in London early August, i'm giving plenty of advance > warning so i expect wonders upon marvels to be planned... oddly, me and Rener are thinking this too. maybe we could arrange this to coincide with some kind of Track & Field club night so that we could avail of Le Dancing while over in the Big Shmoke? I like the idea of having an even bigger Dublin SiniMeetup in London. beyond that, I found Idleberry's post rather fetching. It reminded me of how when I was a teenager I not merely wasn't an indie kid, I wasn't even aware of indie music as a concept. Well, OK, there was the indie charts on the Chart Show, but the idea that indie music was something I could aspire to liking never occurred to me. I think it was only in my second year in college that I realised that the recently defunct Smiths were in fact the best band the world would ever see. I often wonder how my life would have rolled on if I'd somehow missed that. other people said things I wanted to comment on, but not now. anyway, that's enough excitement for one day, bless you all. DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Thu Jun 20 01:29:50 2002 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 17:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: CHU're on top of the world ahhh-KEN! Message-ID: <20020620002950.76279.qmail@web20207.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister!!!! I suppose it was Idleberry's post about teenage crushes and rebellion and listening to Suede that has inspired me to post today...and the fact that it's Andreea's birthday, Archel's birthday, Ken's birthday is around here somewhere... so Happy Birthday to you kids, and to anyone else who has a birthday coming up. Speaking of 'coming up', that brings me back to Suede...they were a very important facet of my past, too. I know that other people have posted about Suede occasionally as well. I've been thinking about my experiences with them and I'm on the brink of doing something productive with the materials I gathered along the way. Mostly cos I watched 'Almost Famous' for the first time recently. A lot of friends were telling me that I should see the movie because it reminded them of me being a Suede "band-aid."(which I was relieved to find that it struck me as being complementary). It really would be a sin to let all of the stories and the photos go to waste. Now I started thinking, who would really want to read a book about following Suede around, besides Idleberry? Maybe I just need to start developing a story line based on incidents with Suede and other Brit-poppers who passed through town combined into a fictitious band, and the fans could be fictitious fans...but the greater vision I have for this book is writing about the idea of growing up with music as an anthem and how great it is to be young and feel invincible and idealistic and how sometimes your naivety can be the most protective shield you've got. Ignorance is bliss, they say. If I knew then what I know now, I could have gotten into some serious trouble! I think maybe I could write a good story. I'm no Cameron Crowe but I think I'll give it a go eventually! At the age of 18, I was determined to marry Brett Anderson from Suede. I loved Idles' description of the Smash Hits stickers in her journal with the gold-penned comments about Brett! Just the other day, the thought struck me that the idea of "marrying" Brett almost ten years earlier was absolutely absurd. Especially considering that since then I saw a completely different side of him, a very real side, apart from the arse-slapping and the pouting. I see a completely different side of marriage now, too. I couldn't imagine Brett coming close to loving me enough to go through this whole immigration process, in fact, I'm amazed that Ben Apps does cos it's fairly extreme and very tedious. I think I would do things differently if I had to do this Petitioning for my Alien Fianc� thing over again. I think I would rather have had a "surprise marriage" and claim ignorance to the immigration processes. We just found out that it will be about 3 months before my petition for Ben gets approved and sent to the consulate in London. There is no way we can stand to be apart for nearly 3 more months (cue barf bags and violins). So, as some of you Londoners know, Ben will be on his way to California tomorrow, to visit for 2 months. He is sad to be missing the weekend's events. But I'm selfish, so I am VERY excited by this (and really, I know that he's excited, too!) I can't wait to see him, I love him so much I could just explode! Especially since he's bringing his 'Storytelling' cd and I don't have it yet! There's my b&s content! And on that note, let's just say smell ya later! love (& poison?), Rachel fruitloop P.S.�VIVA RACHELS! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kristi_li at xxx.com Thu Jun 20 05:06:33 2002 From: kristi_li at xxx.com (Kristi H) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 04:06:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: disturbing performace art or bad music? Message-ID: Robyn said: "oh yeah, right, i was going to list some good mountain goats songs to (gasp) download even if you (shock horror) don't like the mountain goats" Family Happiness (by the mountain goats) is one of my favorite songs. I know you can download it at www.epitonic.com if you are at all interested. Last weekend, I went to what must have been the worst show I've ever seen. I decided to go mostly because I was offered a ticket and I had nothing better to do. I also wanted to see the opening band, a punkish girl group from Olympia, Washington called the Bangs. The headliners were a band I'd never heard or seen called the Makers, but I figured if they were playing with the Bangs, they probably were at least somewhat interesting. The Bangs came out and played a mediocre set. Although, I like some of the songs I've heard on their record, I wasn't very impressed with them live. Compared to the Makers though, they were amazingly good. Nothing could have prepared me for the Makers. Before I describe their set, let me explain that this show was at the Bowery Ballroom in NYC, a medium sized club where bands often mingle with the audience before and after they play. While I was watching the Bangs, I noticed a really creepy guy in front of me with 80's butt rock hair (lots and lots of hairspray) black spandex pants, and (I'm not kidding) a cockpiece. I quickly pointed him out to my husband who seemed to be just as creeped out as I was. As the Bangs left the stage, the big-haired spandex pants man and 4 other guys who looked just like him suddenly appeared on stage and began tuning their instruments and setting up drums. Then..... unfortunately, they started playing really bad glam rock. It was both funny and extremely disturbing at the same time. I started laughing hysterically until I noticed that some of the people around me weren't amused and actually seemed to be really getting into the music! At best, it was disturbing performance art, although I'm pretty sure it was just really bad music. Anyway, avoid seeing the Makers. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NotATrendxX at xxx.com Thu Jun 20 07:44:01 2002 From: NotATrendxX at xxx.com (NotATrendxX at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 02:44:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: everybody's doing it Message-ID: <90.279fe51a.2a42d3b1@aol.com> good evening...morning. though i cannot go to sleep, i do not particularly want to. i am being coerced to read and even enjoy russian literature. i'm taking a knife. does anyone here like the auteurs? ::crosses fingers:: please say yes. please say yes. please say yes. chris morris(brasseye, the day today, blue jam...)? going once? twice? he's ingenious. the ringing in my ears is beginning to get to me. i am not captain kirk. shakespeare and orson welles are awful. i feel the masses pretending to like them because they should. could it be that i just don't "get it"? ::ponders a bit:: i fell asleep three times during citizen kane and just nearly during othello. who is the french director who made a real young girl and perfect love? the obnoxious flashing of "the bourne identity" "danger is bourne" is driving me slightly mad. only slightly. but i will exit regardless due to my lack of conversational skills. ::bows out:: alice. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Thu Jun 20 09:20:47 2002 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 09:20:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: cockrings in the mud?? Message-ID: They're playing Glastonbury. On the same day and in the same tent as Tompaulin. Well, a band called The Maker is anyway. So as long as it's not the former staff of the now defunct music weekly gathered together for one last a capella rendition of "Road Rage", then it must be them. What stripe of bad glam music were they? The Sweet? (who were good of course). New York Dolls? (one of my favourite bands of all time). Hanoi Rocks? (same applies). Or Motley Crue/Poison/etc/etc/etc? (yeeeuuuch!) See you all in the mud. Don't forget your hairspray! > From: "Kristi H" > Reply-To: "Kristi H" > Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 04:06:33 +0000 > To: sinister at missprint.org > Subject: Sinister: disturbing performace art or bad music? > > > > Robyn said: > > "oh yeah, right, i was going to list some good mountain goats > songs to (gasp) download even if you (shock horror) don't like the > mountain goats" > > > Family Happiness (by the mountain goats) is one of my favorite songs. I > know you can download it at www.epitonic.com if you are at all interested. > > Last weekend, I went to what must have been the worst show I've ever seen. > I decided to go mostly because I was offered a ticket and I had nothing > better to do. I also wanted to see the opening band, a punkish girl group > from Olympia, Washington called the Bangs. The headliners were a band I'd > never heard or seen called the Makers, but I figured if they were playing > with the Bangs, they probably were at least somewhat interesting. > > The Bangs came out and played a mediocre set. Although, I like some of the > songs I've heard on their record, I wasn't very impressed with them live. > Compared to the Makers though, they were amazingly good. Nothing could have > prepared me for the Makers. Before I describe their set, let me explain > that this show was at the Bowery Ballroom in NYC, a medium sized club where > bands often mingle with the audience before and after they play. While I > was watching the Bangs, I noticed a really creepy guy in front of me with > 80's butt rock hair (lots and lots of hairspray) black spandex pants, and > (I'm not kidding) a cockpiece. I quickly pointed him out to my husband who > seemed to be just as creeped out as I was. As the Bangs left the stage, the > big-haired spandex pants man and 4 other guys who looked just like him > suddenly appeared on stage and began tuning their instruments and setting up > drums. Then..... unfortunately, they started playing really bad glam rock. > It was both funny and extremely disturbing at the same time. I started > laughing hysterically until I noticed that some of the people around me > weren't amused and actually seemed to be really getting into the music! At > best, it was disturbing performance art, although I'm pretty sure it was > just really bad music. > > Anyway, avoid seeing the Makers. > > Kristi > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Thu Jun 20 13:47:19 2002 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 08:47:19 -0400 Subject: Sinister: buffy's on the telly, everybody's happy, she's just another catty Message-ID: <262CCF33.1D7DE7D8.0B7F097A@aol.com> Hello, all you lovely people, hope your summers have fared well thus far. This is yet another post from yours truly. On the subject of the Mountain Goats: I have only heard two mountain goats albums in their full, asides from the various MP3 files I have downloaded. I paid a couple of visits to Mr Darnielle's e-zine and send him a request for a different version of an article he had written on the gorguts (I think that was their name) at his offer to the audience. He emailed me back a few times and our exchanges were only too enthused on my part. However, after a certain April date he seems to have apparated into nothingness and the promised article was never sent. So that's my MG story. On the subject of Belle and Sebastian: I once claimed that I disliked Storytelling, and I still stand by that statement. But I am glad that Isobel is leaving the band and look forward to more Tigermilk-like recordings in the future, if not in sound, then at least in its likability and heart-shattering ideas. (That album was revolutionary, you know. At least in my life.) Let me digress now for a moment to warn you of the following contents. The words are typed on a whim and perhaps fifteen hundred people would not like to spend time reading about sadness and depression. If you are a busy lawyer like the ones I work for, or just busy in general, please skip ahead to the very last part. On the subject of being sixteen: I. Being sixteen and miserable seems such an intricately developed pop theme. It has rendered itself, time after time, to be the essential step in the process of becoming a fully-fledged indie fan, much like baptism in a christian's life, or a bar mitzvah in a thirteeen year old jewish boy's life. Idleberry's post: menacingly sweet and nostalgic in a the same way your parents will always be the most comfortable ones to be around, the ones who will love you the most (although I like to think otherwise and will never admit this in public), and also proof of sixteen being the mecca in the process of becoming a faltering shy indie fan. Being sixteen right now, at the present moment, as current events fill the world around me, I think/realize that it's not being sixteen and miserable that is so sweet, but the reminescence thereof. Sometimes, my heart cringes for no reason. It's as if being sixteen comes with a curse that I must be miserable for this whole year, until my birthday strikes again, even when things are going extremely well. Before dates, during dates, after dates, snogging or not-snogging, A's on exams or F's, it doesn't make a difference, I am miserable for the duration of the year and the only salvation will be the fragmented glimpses of happiness and cheery air that comes back. The return of contentness and complacency for a brief few moments, the forgetting of graver (such self-flattery!) matters to give time to shallower tasks at hand like homework and boys with perfect noses, the time spent reading fantastical novels that do a fine job of whisking an unhappy teenager into a world better than the ones reality strikes. II. This post is long and rambling. It is also self-pitying, self-elevating and probably incredibly boring. There is a dog whose coat has been shaved off due to the owner's allergic reactions, napping right next to my chair on which I am sitting as I type this. I just don't want to stop typing because I haven't spoken to anyone since June 7th, not at length and not with the kind of understanding one wants in a satisfying conversation. I speak Korean at the same level as a regular 7th grader. I work with thirty year old secretaries who look upon me with jealousy, pity, and indifference. (They think they're still in their teens, or at least, in their early twenties.) III. I would edit this, but I do not for the same reason that I didn't edit my reflective prose assignment for english class. I find myself tired of this same old charade that I've been keeping up for the past two years (I turned sixteen early, and will probably turn seventeen later than the scheduled date in november). The same reason I look in the mirror half as often when I've packed on ten pounds from vacation or have just got off the phone with the boy femme fatale who dismissed me with absolute nonchalance: I don't like myself at those moments. IV. Is it too much to ask to be loved? The Very Last Part: much love, h xoxo +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AMEBIX13 at xxx.com Thu Jun 20 19:41:52 2002 From: AMEBIX13 at xxx.com (AMEBIX13 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 14:41:52 -0400 Subject: Sinister: is this the end, or just the beginning? Message-ID: <7018BB06.7DDE6F78.0063F0F2@aol.com> Hello there Sinister, I hope this finds all of you well. I've been thinking a lot lately...about my life, about how the time in my life where I currently find myself fits into the grand scheme of things, about the people who are now in my life...about how they are changing, how I am changing, and how I fear they won't be there anymore before I know it...maybe even before I have time to say goodbye. These sorts of time's can be very confusing emotionally, as on one hand they can be quite a downer for the obvious reasons. Change can be quite scary, at least for me...although at the same time, I can't help remaining a bit hopeful...that I will find happiness in the changes that are occuring around me, that an adventure waits right around the corner, that things are going to get better. Only time shall tell my lovelies, and I will keep you informed. Am I alone in thinking that Idleberry's posts are the best!? Surely I cannot be, I'm just always excited whenever I see one in my inbox, as I know it! 's going to be well worth the read. The post she made about dreams was especially important to me. It got me thinking a lot actually, about dreams in my life, about what they are exactly...and then I looked back at my boyhood, and looked at those dreams...The big one of my childhood, to go to college has been fufilled...at least partially, I'm not done afterall. But when I looked at my life now I didn't really see myself going towards any of my dreams. I've been making excuses for myself over the past few years, and well I think it's time for that to stop. I am smart enough to do what I really want, I'm still young so there is still time, I'm not going to be stuck in Baltimore forever, and I won't settle for less. I think that perhaps this is the first step to actually making these things happen, as if even I don't believe they can happen, the whole situation will just become a self fufilling prophecy, and that is the last thing I would want. So that's where I stand...I! 'm going to go after these things...and feeling like I just may be going somewhere brings a smile to my face. Dreaming keeps you young...and too often we get too old too fast. I could say so much more on this matter, but I'm at work, and there are sound systems to be designed...with all this talk of the world cup I thought that someone may care that the company where I work designed and built the sound system in for the World Cup stadium in Korea...I'm probably wrong, but I already said it. Well, my thoughts are starting to come apart at the moment, so I will wrap this up before I start babbling. Keep Believing cuz you know things are going to get better, Sean P.S. - B&S content...well sort of...I should be receiving a copy of Storytelling quite soon, so I can finally formulate my opinion on the matter. xox +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Thu Jun 20 21:25:54 2002 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:25:54 EDT Subject: Sinister: Babylove Message-ID: <14a.faa7521.2a439452@aol.com> Dear Sinister, Its hard to find wheat bread made without honey. Have any of you ever noticed that? I've been sitting in the sun all morning, my dog running back and forth playing underneath the bushes. He's a really funny little dog. I find myself having kind of wierd dreams lately. Last night I had a dream about this boy im dating and his mother and I in the back of his pick up truck with Belle and Sebastian on radio. We were going to see a kids movie, something with a character like barney, and B&S had done the soundtrack. It was funny because I was getting really excited about it and they both were telling me to "Shut it!" I guess its not that amusing, or maybe it is... The night before I had a dream that i was on 90210 with my best friend and we both got shot in the bathroom of that highschool... Wierd... I went to a show with a teacher from school, the Doves are really goodin person, they have a nice keyboard. Yeah well... On TV they are talking about terrorism at the taste of Chicago, really we aren;t that popular... Or are we. Sorry for lack of interest, Kate +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From halighhalou at xxx.com Fri Jun 21 02:14:16 2002 From: halighhalou at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:14:16 -0500 Subject: Sinister: as long as it's talking with you, talk of the weather will do. Message-ID: hello sinister. so i caved to the burgeoning trend creeping around the sinister edges of our little group and made a blog. *misslou winces* have dunnit. writtin it every day, shockingly enough. i remember my post here about diary entries. feel the same way again when you go to http://therulesofthegame.blogspot.com. i also wrote a less-than-glowing review of storytelling. feel like kicking me again and again with those boots they wore in a clockwork orange -- or not -- when you go to http://www.dailynebraskan.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2002/06/20/3d11c88d85cfc. many thanks to big (or should i say 'blog') gay mark for his help on both of the above. if you see him in the real live steaming flesh, give him a hug or some household prettying products or something for me. that said. the informational portion of my post has come to an end. *** last night, at the risk of dirtying myself, i knelt on the floor of the coffee shop so as to be level with austin's head as i told him about the decision i had made. and he smiled, showing his surprisingly charming, gappy teeth, celebratory. half an hour later i changed my mind, and he said he would be disappointed. but i think maybe it's just easier to stop something than keep it going, stop worrying and fussing and imagining things to imagine when lying in the arms of someone somewhere in a different nuance than to sit on a thin sheet on a futon at night, thinking so hard parts of my body become dead. or dying. at the expense of keeping the heart racing. with shreds of illusionary crushing. and certianly an ending is better than a pending, better than sitting across from someone and saying to him, 'we need to talk.' *** when i went for the interview yesterday, the editor gave me books. books of poets the press published. books of poems of poets that i'll be editing, now: a twenty-year-old snippet slash nebraska farm girl stigma telling a writer that his usage of 'fucking' might be better off as 'cock sucking,' knowing that on a good day she might write something half as worthy of being edited. inside one of the books was a dead spider. its body had been crushed between the pages, and all of the legs, remarkably enough, were intact and attached to the little round body. it was brown and undeniably crackly in its permanent state of repose, and i didn't touch it. i was a little taken aback, actually, and for some reason i wanted to skip over all the words and just look at the preservation of death. when i kill spiders -- or anything else -- the corpse is never so neatly justified. when i am old and living alone with my draft and backlog of stories of life and writers and the eight-sided affair i had when twenty, i want a row of books on a shelf. and in one of those books, i want a spider, pressed between pages like a flower. *** ken chu said something so nice to me this week, i cried. love, lou xxx ------------------ THE FOLLOWING IS AN ADVERT FOR EXCELLENCE: never learned how to ride a bike? merely flailed helplessy in a chlorine-laced pool when trying to learn to swim? come to Camp Kids Who Gave Up 2002, sponsored by lindsey baker, dave snyder and conor oberst to learn to ride and swim like nobody's business! while you're temporarily residing on our beautiful, secluded island paradise camp, enjoy lessons from friendly guest instructors such as mandee wright and listen to a different live band every night (we feature saddle creek gems and omaha rapists)! dating lindsey is also an available option, so long as conor is off-island. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Fri Jun 21 05:51:59 2002 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:51:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: It ain't coca-cola, it's rice Message-ID: Have I used that subject line before? I don't care, it's in my head. I love reading these posts from the British sinisters. "Oh, we're going to see the Moldy Peaches", "I saw MUM the other night", "let's go see the Clientele if we have NOTHING BETTER TO DO." Okay, those weren't exact quotations, but it must be nice. This is the best I can do: "Oh, Jethro Tull is playing in a casino 45 minutes away. I wonder how much of Aqualung he is going to play!" You lucky bastards don't know how good you got it. I got the new Looper album. Hmm. It seems kind of the same the whole way though. Has our own ex-belle lost it? Some might ask (oh-so-cleverly) "did he ever have it?" I deplore you to listen to his last few albums. "These Things" and "Mondo '77" were excellent. Nothing like those on this new one so far. Still, "fucking around" is a nice song. I can't stand it when there is only one song in my head and only one song I want to listen to, and it's in my car. I don't want to walk out there and get it! Maybe this Hives album I've barely listened to will suffice... Do you ever just feel like giving up? What do you in such a case? Also, how can one person not be happy when they bring so much joy to another's life? Okay kids, I've decided to stop. -Matt P.S. The Hives was a mistake. I think Arab Strap will do the trick... _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fbrito at xxx.br Fri Jun 21 09:37:12 2002 From: fbrito at xxx.br (Fernando Brito) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 05:37:12 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Le Pastiche de les Brasiliens Message-ID: Seaman's Crying Seaman's crying - he's not lonely I caught a glimpse of people's face It was everyone just crying Half a world away Anticipate the plane For 23 poor men They'll be coming so sooner My thoughts are flying away I'm laughing on this day South Korea's great I think they'd better stay Where has gone their fame? Where has gone their fortune? Tokio to LA - and then going back to London How will people receive him? Will they throw eggs on the team? "Seaman bring the cup to me!!!" Instrumental I heard Ronaldo went well But Beckham's a jackass And Rivaldo he's just stunning He runs like he was supersonic Seaman's crying - sorry we beat you Have a nice flight home It's a shame that you're still crying *** Sorry, guys! I REALLY thought England would win the cup! Fernando Brito +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brianraindogs at xxx.com Fri Jun 21 09:50:34 2002 From: brianraindogs at xxx.com (Brian McNeill) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:50:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 QMU TICKETS NEEDED!! Message-ID: Do any nice wee sinisterites have 2 spare TX going for the QMU show next week? The f***wits at virgin in Buchanan street said they would kepe two back for me until today. Just foned 'em and theres none left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I have someone coming to visit me and it would be nice to go with 'em please help!!!! ***on knees with a rosary*** Brian _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi_trenzano at xxx.es Wed Jun 19 13:03:09 2002 From: jordi_trenzano at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:03:09 +0200 Subject: Sinister: 7 going to 0 Message-ID: <000901c21789$6db2fbc0$93a899c1@teleline.es> Hello all: Long time no post. I won't post bits of my life right now, I don't really think you'll be interested on them. Well, besides the fact that i'll be going to Benicassim again, where I'll probably meet miss Ulla and many other sinisterites. I'm really curious on the fact that some hacker anti-B&S decided that this review that mr.Miller sent some days ago should have a 0 instead of a 7. I've also read the "paper" edition, that keeps the original rating but skips the Gorkys's Zigotic Mynci references. That link on the bbc website was probably the most interesting interview of Stuart I've read in ages. But I'd like Mr.Moore to tell me who was that "filthy parson" that posted the link somewhere else, as if he mentions the mighty segundosdeluz mailing list, then I'd doubt about that adjective, ehmmm. My deepest apologies for England's defeat at the World Cup. That's what happens when you don't have a CHU on your team. Cheers Jordi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Fri Jun 21 14:08:23 2002 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunny set) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:08:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Jonathan and the Major dream of horses Message-ID: On a pale blue morning, I went up to the country park and hung around till after dark. I could see the mountains on the other side of the river from here disappear from sight because the snow was falling. There's nobody else around,no one knows me but in a town so small there's no escape from view� I want a drink of whisky, that makes a lonely one less cold, so I go up the town and feel the city air rush past my body. I missed the bus and when you're on your own, it's a long walk home I've got my mobile phone, and end up calling my girl: - Are you coming or are you not? We can kiss and whatever you want - I'm sorry, but I've got some things to do, I won't be coming - How are you feeling? Are you ok now? where did you go wrong? - I've been feeling down,I'll admit, but it's not so bad, I'll be fine -I was confounded by you on that sunny day. Please tell someone all the truth before it kills you, you never show it,its like getting blood out of a stone, you smile even though you feel like crying. - It may be bolder this time, but it doesn't matter what I'm thinking, I am stupid and blind and I could only make you cry telling the truth. - Could we please be objective? Yeah you're worth the trouble and you're worth the pain, don�t hang your head in shame� when I was young you were the only fun in town, My darling, we always have a laugh, you used to make me smile when I was down, you were there in the beginning� With a star upon your shoulder lighting up a path that you walk. -you put me to shame now. I've seen a pattern emerge, You're always looking for a sign, and you love like nobody around you, but you know, we don't stand a chance. -It's time to take a holiday, Wouldn't you like to get away? It's bound to be less boring than looking at the working week. Maybe things will look better there. If you want me I'll be there� - I'm lucky,everything will be fine, me and you for evermore I shut my eyes, It's getting cold, I'll catch the bus across the city and watch the colours change into green and gold Sorry for that nonsense! Take Care Rachel _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Fri Jun 21 14:53:54 2002 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 14:53:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The day rose in the East, and started walking Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC641AB5@pikachu.ntu.ac.uk> Oh well, time to start supporting Spain then... For those of you who have been enjoying my recent abscence from the list, sorry, I'm back in the UK now. For those of you who have been missing my contriubutions and my sparkling wit and repartee, you really should get out more. Truth be told, I've spent the last month and a half in Central America (note to Americans on the list: that does not mean Kansas). Diving in Honduras, climbing active vocanoes and ancient temple pyramids in Guatemala, boating down canyons in Mexico, and snorkelling with sharks and stingrays in Belize. And very nice it was too. Anyone who is feeling jealous will be happy to hear that I am currently tired, jetlagged, insect-bitten and feeling very cold at being back in England. True story time. In the villages around San Cristobal in Southern Mexico, Mayan traditions are still followed closely. These used to involve people who went to see the local shamans for help being given an alcoholic maize drink; it made you burp, which is supposed to expel evil spirits from the body. A few years ago, the shamans realised that they could get the same effect much cheaper (and without getting their clients drunk) by giving them CocaCola instead. Before long, Pepsi got in on the act as well (the two drinks are omnipresent in Latin America). So now, the different local shamans are all sponsored by either Coke or Pepsi, to use the appropriate drink in their rituals. The final results of the beer quality table: 1st - Belikin, Belize (quite a bit of flavour, almost tasted like an English beer) 2nd - Port Royale, Honduras (very refreshing in the heat by day, and alarmingly intoxicating by night) 3rd - Gallo, Guatemala (a bit too watery) 4th - Corona, Mexico (the only flavour comes from the bit of lime you stick in the top) 5th - Budweiser, USA (obviously) Looking forward to meeting up with friends tonight and having proper beer from a proper pint glass at last. The other debate was which was worse: catching a local bus in Guatemala, with 75 other people (believe me, I counted once) on an old US school bus that was obviously built in the times before the invention of suspension; or trying to change planes in Miami airport, encountering the unhelpfulness and sheer incompetence of both the staff and the people who tell them what to do. In a vain attempt to add a bit of content, I notice that since I've been away, B&S have managed to release an album, lose a band member and drop their record label. Not bad going. Still, their fame is growing all the time - I walked into a bar one night on an island off the coast of Honduras to hear IYFS playing over the speakers... Spotted in the newspaper yesterday: The Court of Appeal in London has ruled that a sacked postman who sent his request for an industrial tribunal by first-class mail was wrong to expect it to arrive the next day. Don't you just love this country? Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ann_septimus at xxx.com Fri Jun 21 18:22:30 2002 From: ann_septimus at xxx.com (Ann Foreyt) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:22:30 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Wake up Monday morning, know you've gotta go to school Message-ID: Sinister~ I laid in bed last night and realized I was happy. Not 'just got a new car/new puppy' happy, but really, heart-feltedly happy. How did this happen? I have spent the last 7 years of my life in a depressed-angry funk and all of a sudden, it's gone! I woke up and realized that graduation was over, the tasseled hat on the dresser, the speech spoken and forgotten about, that I would never again have to see those kids who made my life a living hell. Who made the medicine cabinet a lucky charm, to be gazed at in time of need. It's probably temporary, I probably shouldn't be so amazed by it. It'll pass. To the girl (Histrianic??) who wrote about being 16: sorry, hon, if you don't let your attitude take control now, 17 and 18 are going to be just as bad. Sorry. I went through most of high school the same way... then I realized that if you flipped people off and started wearing cool (or in my personal favorite slang, kewl - what's the point? same number of letters, harder to type) hats, they left you alone. That's I think when I first started feeling happier with myself. And I listened to B&S tell me that "you're a star" a few more times. This is not an Idleberry post, and for that I am sorry as they always make me smile. kisses for the boys, hugs for the girls~ Ann PS: has anyone read Stuart David's venture into novel-writing "Nalda Said"? Is it any good? I don't understand the thrill of running, Catching, Throwing, Taking orders from a moron. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jason.cochrane at xxx.com Fri Jun 21 20:15:22 2002 From: jason.cochrane at xxx.com (jason.cochrane at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:15:22 -0400 Subject: Sinister: that's brisk baby Message-ID: <2F96BE4C7CC6D211A55F0008C7A4397604F1E6EA@OHSC-EX4> oh my, is it ever hot here.... sorry about the brazil game all you english people out there. i couldn't care less about soccer but i must say the brazilian fans are much more fun than the british ones. i'm gald there was a party going on out side my door at 4:30 this morning.... I had to wade through drunk portugese people to get to work. i assume there are some other people from toronto and the surronding area on the list. E-mail me... particularly if you are downtown during the work day... i'm a social outcast at work... I eat in the park by my self :( Thank you to the lipton company for handing out ice cold lemonade on the corner :) They'll brand me yet. Jason +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shannonjeanmaney at xxx.com Fri Jun 21 20:46:03 2002 From: shannonjeanmaney at xxx.com (shanny jean) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 14:46:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: sinister: Message-ID: it's a quarter to three in the afternoon. i'm in my pajamas, staring at the computer screen, wishing it was a person. which it isn't. and if it was, i'd probably be irritated. to everyone talking about nothing to do: i live in a sub rural not-quite suburban town in illinois. i live with my parents for the summer. i have a 15 year old sister who hates me with an increased passion each day. i have no pets. i have few friends in town, which i see seldom. i work at a restaurant with angry women who treat me like their own personal b*tch, filling their drinks when i have my own work to do. the only bands that play in town are middle-aged cover bands of music i never cared for. the word culture refers only to the stuff that makes yoghurt grow, and the only thing i do for fun is walk. and you can only walk for so many hours a day before you go crazy. there is very honestly nothing to do. everything closes at 10pm. except the bars. and i'm 20. my boyfriend lives an hour and a half away in a town of 150. they own 3/4 of the computers in their town. there is less to do where he lives. i am very very sad and very angry with summer. i hate it. i am bored. i am lonely. and mom says i need to clean my room. oh life, shannon jean _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andy at xxx.uk Sat Jun 22 00:21:12 2002 From: andy at xxx.uk (Andy Mayes) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 00:21:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: BE NICE References: Message-ID: <007501c2197a$70c8af60$969f883e@l7v2p6> My alarm clock went off at 2.00 last night, not by chance but my own deliberate act???? I put on my best warm clothes, taking no real interest in the poor colour match of items I could not see and headed for the door, a warm smile walked across my face, the door closed quietly behind me. I wound down the windows, put on the Ghost of Yesterday (Bill bel), touched the motorway and headed along empty dark roads. My journey lasted little more than an hour, then the traffic hit hard (like that scene at the end of the field of dreams) nose to nose headlight to headlight and into the field we went. When I have glanced over the sinister emails of recent I feel a lot of bitterness, expectations of people seem so high? We not only wave Isobel goodbye but tear into storytelling, we don't like the dialogue, its too short, the cover is the wrong shade of red? Some times we should be happy to taste the new flavour and enjoy the experience, we can choose to walk away if the flavour disagrees with us but remember its our art and not just some commercial pleasure that should be compared to the previous packet, quantified by cost over duration. The moist air hit me as I walked the walk, passed the pixie dream diner, I stooped for a poor mans version of always look on the bright side, it wasn't the music that stopped me more the dynamo peddle bikes that lit the scene. Its nice when people share things, a strawberry, a beer or a few words, I kept that warm smile even when the rain came down. The stones don't change but the faces tell new stories, I hope I will continue to follow new directions and accept the faces I meet. As I returned to the office clean shirt and matching tie I FELT GOOD, I hope it showed in my voice as the calls rolled in, Good morning how can I help you? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mail at xxx.uk Sat Jun 22 02:50:49 2002 From: mail at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 02:50:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I slept in so it wasn't the longest day, but it's well into the next one and I haven't gone to bed yet Message-ID: <000701c2198f$3d614dc0$b5af87d9@ivorsserver> I saw a real live frog just there! Or maybe it was a toad. I crouched down to get a closer look but the nervous little thing crawled into a gap in the old stone wall. I was walking up a hill, after midnight, in the drizzle. After discussing the weather with the only other pedestrian walking up from the railway station, I took a detour. You know what it's like (? I'll explain): pleasantries are exchanged then you end up walking side by side up a lonely road at night with a complete stranger and the prospect of maintaining a constant flow of small talk for an indefinite period doesn't appeal so you look for ways to break away politely. So I spotted my chance at the next available junction and lied, making out the detour was in fact my route home. Does this make me antisocial? I hope not. I'm sure the nice chap was relieved as well owing to my subterfuge. So I'm wet, but it was lovely in the quiet of the night, heavily scented with dripping vegetation. Anyway, this post is just a quickie 'reporting back' from the Winchester Club. I took the train into Glasgow in time to watch half of Spiderman (yeah: whole superhero- half duration) before heading to Kelvinbridge, and then onto the Woodside Social Club. It only says 'Woodside' on the canopy over the door, not 'Social Club' and a sign for the Boys Brigade next to it, but I ventured in anyway and an elderly gentleman confirmed that I had the right place and directed me, well, right, through double doors to Carey and her lollipops. Ally was there too, and Jamie. Jamie and I ventured further inside, thereto find Michael sitting on a banquette with a bloke (hullo person!) and someone else, who turned out to be the delightful Genevieve, all the way from Quebec, which is quite near New York hehe ; ) DJ Lucy was laying down some fat tunes, and assorted folks twiddled with various knobs and leads, one of whom was Gavin, I believe, of Camera Obscura and Avalanche Records fame. First band up was Troika, who have two guitarists, leading to some inventive harmonies, and a drummer who didn't drum but sang instead. And a good voice he had too. All four members of the band played all together for only one of the numbers, so hopefully there'll be more of the complete outfit another time. However, the trios, duets and solos which followed were pretty excellent too, including a self-penned composition by 'the bearded one'. Us sinistersorta folk are a well behaved bunch at gigs, most of the time (when not being cautioned by the police of course, or getting comatose drunk) and so the auditorium, if we can call it that, was pretty much silent as he sang except, that is, for the telephone ringing behind the bar. This sound effect stood out so much, in fact, that the poor troubadour was forced to append an aside roughly going 'Fuck it! This is supposed to be poignant!' before continuing with some truly beautiful guitar passages and wistful verses. Then the till clattered open... JINGLE JANGLE!!!! Och well. Unfortunately I could only stay for the first piece by the Boy out of The Arab Strap, as I was rushing for the last train home. Boo! I wanted to stay. In fact, the dancing will just be stopping now as I'm typing this, far away, up in the hills where the frogs live. All in all, a really good evening. If it weren't for the fact that there's yet another B&S gig next week I'd be lamenting the fact that I have to wait a whole 3 weeks before another one. That's SATURDAY 13th JULY. The WINCHESTER CLUB. If you look this up in Google you'll get the site of 'the original Butterfly Bar in Soi Wat Boon which is just a 10 minute drive from Central Pattaya' but it's not that. I think it's a reference to the TV series 'Minder' as Arthur Daley is featured on the flyer.Y'all should come along. I'll finish with a gratuitous mention of *Mandingo Cliché* . That's onehelluva sexy voice. Top of my Isobel replacement list, who, by the way, was also performing in Glasgow last night (of which this pre-dawn is the continuation) with Bill Wells. Maybe someone will be nice and post back about that too. Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Sat Jun 22 12:45:55 2002 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 12:45:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: they also serve, who stand and wait Message-ID: you know, there's been all this talk of dreams. When I was younger my big dream was to become a published author or more particularly a performed playwright. And I will do it one day, I just haven't got round to writing anything yet. Idleberry mentioned people who work in middle management or chartered accountancy, and wondered if they ever dreamed of so doing, and how it's bad to let your dreams of lion-taming end up in a job in accounts payable. I think that's maybe slightly unfair. I mean, you can't define a person's entire life by what they do for a living. Maybe they make a packet of money working in middle management, which they have used to fund their long-running dream of climbing Mount Everest. Or maybe they have realised their dream of starting a family, and in order to provide for them properly they have scaled back on their dream of never washing and juggling for a living. My current dream is to go the Glastonbury music festival, which it looks like I will be achieving next Wednesday. I may see some of you there. bless you all, DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sat Jun 22 14:27:40 2002 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 14:27:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Belle And sebastian, On The Radio Message-ID: <000201c219f0$990ff340$748901d5@oemcomputer> Playing songs for Londoners, at least. Hi All, xfm's weekend schedule claims that B&S are on "Hijack", wich is on Sunday 23.06.02, 17:00-18:00. Frequency = 104.9. They say "Every week a top act takes over the Xfm studios to play their favourite tracks. " It is possible to listen online, see the Listen Live link at www.xfm.co.uk Quite often their info on the web is bollocks, so it might not happen. Especially as there has been no official announcement from Banchory Towers. Perhaps Neil is too busy setting the record straight in his usual, er, forthright style over on the Bowlie board. I am almost tempted to quote what the great man said over there as he has such a wonderful way with words, but Sir Cliff keeps putting a restraining hand on my typing fingers. I may give in to that temptation soon, though :) Nice to see Big Stu's back again. Actually, no it isn't, because now I can't see a bloody thing. David Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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If anyone knows the whereabouts of some extras, pretty please let me know. As a note of interest to those of you not residing in Glasgow or not retaining ticks, has anyone else heard the rumour that Isobel quit the band to join Snow Patrol? That would possibly be the only good reason to quit B&S. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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Message-ID: hello sinister. the remembrance of a simple piano progession lingers, and i listen for the crickets, now, finally, after days, at an uncertain peace. everything is quiet, and i have spent the tears i kept at bay for so long. talking to my grandma on the phone at one in the morning, i let it all go when she told me to, and wept. really and truly. the kind of tears that make you feel like you're going to vomit them out rather than cry them out, the kind that really mean something. i was hot and panting, and finally, the whole thing had a purpose. i told her how i felt so homeless. and she said i was, but not without reason or timing. and she was right. i suppose once you get to sixty-five you have that kind of certainty, to be right about things. *** i am tired now, but not ready to sleep on the couch of the newspaper, where i have decided to sleep tonight. i looked at the walls around me fifteen minutes or so ago and renounced them; they were never my own, and they will not be now. and so i left, listening to the absolute stillness of the building, knowing that it wasn't absolute. not really. nothing is these days, and i know that, too. walking down the steps outside, i breathed. and the air was cooler, thinner, and for one small perfect moment, i felt small. in a good way. walking down the winding sidewalk to my car i thought about why they call it a sidewalk, why it's a slower lane for the road that takes you somewhere. why people walk there, sometimes run, but never get somewhere fast. and i liked it. i stopped worrying for a moment, and just walked. *** i watched a movie tonight, and for two hours, thought about nothing else but the box in front of me, what was happening there and what would happen. and, periodically checking the clock, i suspected the reason people like movies so much was because you could stop the motion at any one point and replay it. or put it off altogether until another time. or move backwards and do it again. we want everything to be like that, i think, and when we see that everything keeps moving one way ahead whether we want it to or not, we want our money back. but we never paid for this, and that's why today is sunday. and when everything stopped for me as i was moving on the sidewalk, i forgot about what i used to be and what i was now and what i will be, and concentrated, without effort, on that single moment. each step in and of itself, and i was grateful that i could do that. walk. walking. maybe i was given something that would take away so i could have moments like those; when i am crippled, i will remember. but then again, when i am crippled, i will have moments. where i just am. and that is all. walking down a sidewalk, anticipating sleep and a soft piano, but not running toward them. just stepping and moving and realizing why moving pictures are only two-dimensional representations expanded from a footfall into the walking of a thousand miles. i have wondered if the physical pain these past few weeks has been my punishment. the manifestation of all that is eating away at me inside. the non-justification for my inherent idiocy. and then and now and then it just doesn't matter anymore. *** in retrospect, when things begin again, i will wish i could retrace patterns and redraw them when i get back to where i started a few months back. i will wish again that i could take back the declarations and abstractions to simply say that i was lost. and i will not wish to take them back because they were untrue -- the things i said still hold, for me, are true and real and mine. but they are unimportant. i cannot persuade moments to be something they are not. i suddenly realize the keys are wet. tissues. tissues remedy that. xxx lou ------------------ THE FOLLOWING IS AN ADVERT FOR EXCELLENCE: never learned how to ride a bike? merely flailed helplessy in a chlorine-laced pool when trying to learn to swim? come to Camp Kids Who Gave Up 2002, sponsored by lindsey baker, dave snyder and conor oberst to learn to ride and swim like nobody's business! while you're temporarily residing on our beautiful, secluded island paradise camp, enjoy lessons from friendly guest instructors such as mandee wright and listen to a different live band every night (we feature saddle creek gems and omaha rapists)! dating lindsey is also an available option, so long as conor is off-island. 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Troika were lovely and, dare I say it, actually *better* unplugged than they are when swathed in "belly button fluff" (their words, not mine). Malcolm M was great too, although I had to miss a bit of his set to run about in the pouring rain and try and persuade people to come along after the Ballboy gig. Our success in this was limited, but we did manage to get Keith Watson and friend to return in the car with us. The sleb count was pretty high - four Camera Obscuras, two Belle & Sebastians and at least two Arab Straps (there may have been more but I’m not sure what they all look like) as well as Keith and Genevieve. The hottest dance floor fillas were Borderline by Madonna and Yes Sir, I Can Boogie, by Baccara. Considering we were pitting our little night up against the likes of Pulp, Ballboy, Bill ‘n’ Bel and Stuart Braithwaite, not to mention Rod Stewart and Ronan Keating, I think we did OK. You should come along next time (yes, even you). It’s on 13th July and features Chris Leonard, (formerly?) of this very list and Aerospace, who are just fabulous. Speaking of Aerospace, I’m getting all excited about going to see them in Sweden next month. Sweden seems to be the HAPPENING place this summer - Ant and the Clientele are playing in August and Aerospace, Boy Racer, Tender Trap and Sportique are playing at the Mitt Bästa Liv Festival, which is where Ally and I are going. Did you know that in Sweden, instead of saying "Speak of the devil" when you turn up, they say "Speak of the troll?" I love furrin languages. I can’t remember exactly what Idleberry said about people having Proper Jobs and not chasing their dreams and stuff like that, but the subject reminded me of Amelia Fletcher, who has the posh title of Chief Economist at the Office of Fair Trading, as well as making sweet music with Tender Trap (not to mention her glorious past with Heavenly, Marine Research etc.) Why not have your cake *and* eat it, eh? After Sweden, Ally and I will be in London for a weekend and Genevieve says she’s thinking of coming down then too. Would somebody orgainise a piquenique for us? Juicy Lucy ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From esme at xxx.com Mon Jun 24 16:41:29 2002 From: esme at xxx.com (ee fumblings) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:41:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: haikus revealed // weeks twentythreefour // two thousand and two Message-ID: Goodbye Isobel, have a nice life! Maybe I'll buy your next album. A salty price, as we say. OK... that's all... poor post, but from the heart. I'll be slaughtering my sleep schedule to stay up until watching it. Alone is nice though it'd be right at home on Wake up to Wogan. Izzy, darling, I've got the raging horn and I just had to phone you. Never in my life did I expect to see six on my way to work. I'll have an empty moment, look!I'm smiling up to my eyes again. I think I'm gaining a little perspective on this band after all. If you forget all of the above, they are not good photographers. When I was little, I used to pronouce it as "thees- ee-a-saurus". But then work attacks the imagination. Work is a scam, you know. I moved to London! All the cool kids are *doing it* these days, you know. ONLY good looking women-I shall keep my eyes peeled for him next time. Off to fill up my er.. gas tank with a metric gallon of er, gas. And while I'm there that world will feel almost complete. (Complete, not perfect). I'd personally been hoping for an orgy. Wrong party, I guess. And I got his chin instead, and headbutted his nose in the process. I remember it so well, sitting here at my desk, as I am now. I was over him. Only hours after I'd written this letter. Study leave came and went.I regretted dumping him. He carried on. I was in fifth year. I got it from all angles. >From the younger year. I do? Decided to ask for a guitar for my 16th birthday. They caled me that. They wrote it on the blackboard in the common room. I must send you a quick note on The Pinefox's visit to Dublin. Last weekend, I went to what must have been the worst show I've ever seen. I'm sure the nice chap was relieved as well owing to my subterfuge. Sorry, but after two and a half decades, the heat's getting to me. // ee // +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark.hester at xxx.com Mon Jun 24 18:14:41 2002 From: mark.hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:14:41 0 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: this is how it felt to be loved Message-ID: <20020624171452.14282.h022.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> Hello my name is Mark and I....you can guess the rest. No reporting back from the bowling then? Did it happen? Well anyway, I'll rewind even further back to Thursday night, when I came up to London on the Magic Bus for TIHIFTBL. Even tho I travelled from afar, I still managed to arrive obscenely early, which meant that, as it was a pretty nice evening, I decided to sit outside in the Famous Cock's (ahem) garden. This is not usually an activity fraught with difficulty, but I discovered that the vast majority of the tables which were not occupied by anyone else were within blasting/deafening distance of the pubs HUGE extractor fan (do they run a sideline designing the most aerodynamic cars the world has ever seen?). The only one which wasn't in danger of being blown away looked very wonky indeed. It was sufficiently close to the perpendicular to balance a pint, but it also looked very silly and so I attempted to right it, without success. It was then that I noticed the graffiti on the fence, which read "It's Heriditary: If Your Parents Had No Children, Neither Will You". Can't argue with that. At this point I decided to go back inside again when I met Mark C. We exchanged views on (im/e)migration issues (MH: "everyone's moving to London", MC: "*from*, you mean!"). Incidentally, why doesn't the sig. file for Glasgae Indie read "We're Going Oot!"? Shortly after that, loads of ppl arrived, including Mr & Mrs Carsmile, Ken, Liz D, Marianna, Maddie, Paul, Greg, Stefano and a Man in Black who was neither Smith nor Jones. We ventured downstairs to the Buffalo Bars (why bars plural?) which was bigger than I expected. There were also quite a few mirrors which was a bit disconcerting. There was nuffink on the loo doors to indicate which was which. The playlist in Ian's post included Felt, although I don't rememeber any. I always develop an uncharacteristic shyness when it comes to asking djs for requests. I do remember J&TDOH, the original versh of "Tainted Love" and the song Spearmint sampled for "Sweeping the Nation". Harvey Williams played Trembling Blue Stars and the Field Mice - is this allowed? There was some Lloyd Cole too, but no Pinefox to appreciate it. I left about two-ish I think, nightbussing it to Traf. Sq. where the bus co. had decided to move the bus stop (just what you need in the small hours), but fortunately only to the nearby, euphonic Pall Mall. Big zeds were needed in order to wake up in time for the footie and thankfully this was achieved. Got to the bully at five to seven to find a big queue. Memebers of the queue of course took all the seats, leaving me & my colleagues to lean on the dj booth at the back. Anyway, you all know the result and so I'll fast forward to Saturday and a festival with "Bury" in it......CHARLBURY! The Charlbury Riverside Festival is free....free to get in and free of Rod Stewart. Emma & I watched Smilex, Ghost Dog, Sextodecimo and the excellent CALIBER. Smilex's singer made a mad rush to the chemical toilets at the back mid-set, but the music was not over-inspiring, wot d'you expect for £0? The one good song featured Olivia from Caliber. Sextodecimo were nu-metal of the shouty-shouty grr-aren't-we-scary, skatekids-in-hoodies-look-on-in-admiration variety. As Emma and I were going to two parties that evening we were unable to stay for south sea company prospectus, but we did discover that my colleague Ian had pitched the BIGGEST TENT EVER in the tiny camp site before we caught our train. Should think so too, seeing as he'd disappeared for about an hour to pitch the thing. Sunday's activities included a reunion (or "gaudy" as they call them in Oxford) at Emma's college, where the oldest alumnus matriculated (Mark's Oxford to English Translation Service: started her degree) in 1922. I looked round but failed to spot anyone quite that ancient. Unexpected fun came in the form of the blurb & badges we were given on arrival. Emma & quite a few of her friends (not all of them female) discovered maiden names they never knew they'd had, and several Ancient & Modern History graduates were quite surprised to receive badges reading simply "Ancient and History"....not what you want pinned to your chest all afternoon really. Anyway, hope those of yer off to Glasto have a grate time, there's a discussion of the merits or otherwise of "foamy mat things" on a message board near you.... Mark. ps Mitt Bästa Liv sounds wonderful! ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From foranotherdream at xxx.com Mon Jun 24 19:51:07 2002 From: foranotherdream at xxx.com (bus stoppers) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: i don't want to be afraid to say.... Message-ID: <20020624185107.32392.qmail@web12404.mail.yahoo.com> hey everyone... i am here sweating in the computer lab at school. why, with all of this electronic equipment producing enough heat...why...would you not put the air on? okay. there's my one moment of bitching. you know you have an addiction problem when you need to have it at least once a day... the whole storytelling chain has kind of faded out, but i have to talk about it right now. i was writing the "review" for it for my zine the other night, but while listening to it before i realized that my english class had been cancelled, i had an epiphany. it's completely marvelous and i LOVE it. i had listened to it before, but i did that thing where you skip around and only listen to a couple of the songs. but since the disc-man was in my back pack while i was walking, i couldn't. i was forcing myself to listen to the whole thing and really get the album that everyone has been raving about it. i don't really care if there is a possiblity that i only love it as much as i do now because i wanted to love it so much...because i don't think that is what happened to me today while i was sitting on the bricks in the warm sunshine. it happened at the moment while the clip of scooby telling that guy his movie was a hit and then big john shaft started in. i got it! finally. then while i listened to it again...i really did get it. the football song and the storytelling song...i sat up and looked up and smiled. it has been a nice afternoon i have to say :) and then i recently bought aberdeen's "homesick and happy to be here" and am once again in love. how exciting is it when you buy a cd with no knowledge, when you spend the money on a whim with high hopes (not expectations) and you can listen to it track by track and your heart and mind slowly open up to a green, lush field of daisies. i love daisies too. i love. sara ===== all the people'd stare as if we were both quite insane someday my name and his are going to be the same __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beiaardhorse at xxx.com Mon Jun 24 22:57:32 2002 From: beiaardhorse at xxx.com (Aruni J) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:57:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i don't want to be afraid to say.... Message-ID: busstoppers wrote: >and then i recently bought aberdeen's "homesick and happy to be >here" and am once again in love. I just got it and love it, too!...especially the second track (Sink or Float), which, if you have the time and inclination, you should listen to at http://www.betterlookingrecords.com/aberdeen.htm. My only problem with the album is that track seven sounds suspiciously like the Magnetic Fields' "Take Ecstasy With Me," but then there are worse things to aspire to, huh? :) Wasn't the lead singer of Aberdeen on Sinister for awhile? Am I making that up? Is she still on? Hmm, maybe I shouldn't have said that about, er, paying homage to other people's work...Oh well. No harm intended. I _do_ like the album, after all! **North America Tape Tree** Not to let the UK sinisterines have all the fun, would anyone be interested in a North American tape circle/tree/whatever-you-call-it? No deadlines yet--I just want to see if there's any interest. If so, email me back. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Jun 25 00:51:10 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: picnics, protests, past stories Message-ID: <20020624235110.77878.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> hello all, Hope everyone is doing ok and tickity boo. Theres a variety of things for me to tell you today, so best to get started I guess... *****NEWS FOR PICNIC WHORES****** there are approximately two more scottish picnics in the pipeline for this summer, following on from the highly successful "goodbye, Mr breams" picnic just over a week ago. Obviously, news of our ability to do it so well has spread far and wide, not unlike the legs of Ulrika Jonsson, that people want to come up here and get a whiff of some HARDCORE scottish sinister picnicking pleasures. The first will take place on the first weekend of July, when Mark HOTPOT Cassarole will be gracing us with his hip thrustin' Elvis-like presence somewhere in glasgow, I suspect. Throwing knickers and swooning is optional. The second is towards the end of the month, and looking likely to take place in Edinburgh, cos Gordon says so. Which is fair enough really. Plus you know, like, us east coasters are getting a bit fed up with having to do all the hard work and travel through. Oh, and are we having a game of football? hmm? or is tennis the new world cup now? If sports are on the menu, please don't forget your gym kit, or I'll make you run round in your bare feet, vest and pants. Even if you've gone commando. ********Work stuff news********* I like telling this story, cos it makes my life seem that bit more interesting. I went and sat in to listen to Tommy "The Commie" Sheridan (SSP) Free school Meals for Children Bill getting debated in the Scottish Parliament last week. I went along, becuase I wanted to get a "feel" for the passion of parliament debates at their most heated. I expected all the fireworks, and verbal wrestling to take place in the chamber, so I sat up in the public gallery, watching as if it were a roman colusseum with the gladiators and lions and stuff. Well, it wasn't far off. The thing is, you're supposed to be respectful of the flow of democracy in the public gallery. But i soon realised, that down in the debating chamber was the better place to be, as the crowds took to the parliament like a bunch of middle aged over excited parents at a pantomime. The jeered. They hissed. I expected them to say "hes behind you!". And the Deputy Presiding Officer gave them a few fair warnings about their behaviour. Feeling a little less than comfortable, surrounded by irrate middle aged oddballs in garishly coloured lycra leggings and sandals, I made an early departure, heading back to watch it on telly, from the safety of my desk, away from all those nasty voters. Plus, all that talk about chips and cheese made me feel hungry. As it happens, the Parliament had to be suspended for ten minutes, as the protesters were escorted by police and security from the public gallery. ************************************* A few days ago, I started emailing someone on this list who responded to one of my previous posts. I was telling them about when I used to be a dancer, when I was a little girl. So I thought I'd tell you too. When I was a kid, my mum used to send me off to do various activities. dancing, swimming lessons, operetta (a drama club), brownies, gymnastics. My best friend, when I was 7, was a girl called Ruth. She went to dance classes, and the dance classes I was attending weren't going so well, on account that it was ballroom dance classes (if you can count dancing to "Agadoo" as ballroom- that was more a warm up exercise though, but hey, at least I learnt to jive and to cha-cha) and my "dance partner" was more interested in sitting in the corner eating ten pence sweet mixes from little white square paper bags than getting up and dancing with me. My dance teacher had words with my mum, and they decided it was for the best I didn't attend anymore. But Ruth went to dancing, and invited me along too. She went to "Miss Clarks School of Dance" in Hamilton, and my mum signed me up to join. I remember the first day. The dance lessons were held in a building, a grey terrace row, on John Street near the town centre and you had to walk along this dingy little corridor into the dimly lit cloak room that smelled of sweat and damp, where you got changed. All the other little girls were skinny and petite, and I was never a skinny and petite little girl, I wasn't over weight, but I wasn't like those little porcelain featured girls, who had been learning to demi pliea (or however its spelt) before they could walk. Ruth ignored me right from the start. I went in, and met Miss Clark. I can tell you, I hated that woman. I despised her. She had a sharp, snarly glaswegian accent, and always had a cigarette dripping from her wrinkled lips. Her saggy eyes drooped, like Paul MacCartney's do, from behind tinted lenses of her glasses and she hd a short grey crop. She wore black sweatshirts over leggings, and she wasn't very tall. She was like a cross between Pasty and Selma from the Simpsons, and Wee Jimmy Crankie. But she was a nasty woman. A cruel, evil hearted woman, who obviously hated children and had fallen on hard times, earning her money teaching little girls to dance and all she could get out of it was to crack a stiff smile at their parents who paid the annual fee, and then snarl, like a rabid dog at their children as soon as the money was in the bank. She growled, and barked, and shouted at you if you forgot. Even the plump middle aged pianist lady with the red curls looked frightened, bowing her head, down, and peering over when Miss Clark told her to stop, as she came stomping across the wooden floor towards some unfortunate child who had made a wrong move. I didn't exactly know what she meant when she told me to point my toes. How do you point your toes? Well, I splayed my toes. And she shouted at me. And she grabbed my foot, and pushed my toes together, and roared "POINT!" ,at me. The first day, I held my little ballet shoes in my hand. I didn't know where to put them, not somewhre that they'd get lost or mixed up, so I pushed them down the front of my leotard. Miss Clark walked over to me, every footstep clipped and sharp. She looked down and smiled. Then her face turned into the darkest expression I have ever seen. Then she growled. And then she called me stupid for sticking my ballet shoes down my leotard, and showed me off to the other girls, who all laughed. She called me "kirstin" and then I made next my mistake. My mistake that would stay with me for the three years I attended her classes. I corrected her pronouciation of my name. "Its Kristin" I said. >From then on, when she talked to me, her voice would resonate around the room, for the next three years, she would talk to me, putting on a mock-posh accent and patronising me "Krrrrrrrrrrristin!" she would say. Rolling her r's tighter than a rizla cigarette paper. I wasn't very good at ballet. The other little girls weren't like me. The class was split into two. Mis Clarks favourites- the porcelain china dolls, who went onto perform in pantomimes, and one little girl even got a bit part in Emmerdale, which made her the starlet for weeks to come as she talked about her showbiz career, Miss Clark washing her with compliments and asking her what it was like. Then there was me, and the other dumpy little girls. The little girls who didn't look like pretty little ballerinas. The less than graceful children. The little girls who tried hard, but really, we didn't stand a chance. The little girls who weren't very good at ballet. The rejects. The oddballs. The girl who was taller than the rest, and akward. The girl with the frizzy curly halo of hair. Me. We hated it there. My friend Ruth woudn't talk to me during the breaks. She would glance over at me, and turn back to the porcelain children and giggle. I befriended those odd little girls, we were like rejected doll parts., thrown down the chute into some cellar. We couldn't dance to save ourselves, we boundered from one foot to the other, flapping our arms, and the other little girls, those perfect little girls with the upturned noses, the rosebud lips, and baby blue eyes would scowl at us. When we had shows, every summer, in Hamilton town Hall, we were put at the back. Out of sight. the pretty ballerinas at the front. But we had our talent. One that made us good. We could tap dance. You see, theres no point in being patient and delicate when you tap dance. The aim of the game was to move quickly, and to make noise. And thats what we did, every saturday. Toe tapping, heel clipping, not standing there at the bar getting tired from holding your leg in the air, worrying that you might fart, in those little soft shoes. I wasn't in Ruths class, but I loved tap dancing. Running around... shuffling hoping, ball-step, shuffle hop ball-step, getting some faster more fun music, not that classical mozart ballet nonsense. I even got to be in the opening sequence to one of the shows. That put a few noses out of joint. Miss Clark shouted at me less on Saturdays. My parents got a laminated wooden floor in the hall way, and I would practise there, for every lesson. I didn't have to remember stupid french names like the Bra Ba or whatever. (I never did french at school, so forgive me for my awful phonetical spelling). It was exactly like it was told. Shuffle. Fast shuffle. Ball step. All the steps had proper names. My last show was in 1989. I moved to Livingston that year, only weeks before our annual performance. So my parents would drive me through to Hamilton, twice a week, to dance. Ruth had even less to do with me after I moved. She stuck to the other little girls. At school, she was my best friend, but at dancing, she didn't like me at all. We had three shows in a week. I had to have my hair tiedback into a tight bun, and sprayed mericlessly with hairspray. I hated having it tied back like that. I didn't mind when we got to dress up. For one show, we dressed up in black leotards and leggings, with white tap shoes with white satin ribbons and little orange skirts with sequins on them, and a headband with a feather- we were supposed to be a little tribe of American Indians. Another show, we wore green leotards and chiffon fairy wings with ballet shoes with ribbons wrapped up our calves. You can bet I was tucked away at the back for most of that one. After the last show, as I got ready to go home, Miss Clark walked across the changing room towards me, as I put on my jacket and stod next to my mum. She gave me a gift. A little pair of three inch long pink satin ballet shoes, in a clear plastic tube. She said thankyou, and told me good luck, then she grabbed me and pulled me close to her for a hug, holding me so tightly, I spluttered on the smell of her cigarettes and could barely breathe. I didn't go to any more dance classes after that. The doctor said I had flat feet, and that ballet shoes weren't suitable for little girls with flat feet, since they had no support. So then I took up swimming, and recieved praise, and enthusiastic words of encouragement. Besides which, if people shout at you, it doesn't sound quite so bad under water. love idles xxx ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Tue Jun 25 01:08:34 2002 From: rfadden at xxx.com (rrrrobyn) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: 'i spent this afternoon nostalgic for this morning' Message-ID: <20020625000834.35200.qmail@web11107.mail.yahoo.com> hi sinister, lately it is all about jazz musics b/c it is jazz festival time in vancouver. i saw ken vandermark & school days for *free* yesterday outdoors in the sunshine and it was great. (and a nice change from *sleeping most of saturday* due to football/soccer watching fatigue. almost... over...) but jazz, yeah. new things: i bought new headphones finally - holy cow, what's that? is that *bass*? is that *a broad range of sound*? etc. i urge people to buy decent headphones (www.headphone.com has good advice) i only bought a pair of koss portapros, but hell, so much better than crappy sony earbuds that came with my walkman. plus these ones look all early 80s, oooh. also i picked up a lucksmiths cd called 'where were we?' which is 'an assortment of recordings 1999-2001'. yes, but so i opened it up and there's a photo of a sign from right here in vancouver on commercial drive! one of my favourite signs too. it's about haircuts. but it's weird to see such a familiar sight in the inside cover of a cd of an australian band that i love. well, they did spend some time here last year, but still! weird! and i bought a red&white striped tanktop b/c it was $10, cute and makes me happy. my favourite part of idleberry's email was about her friend with the school uniform and briefcase and how "She went on to become an arttherapist, and lives in Birmingham now, working with kids." wow. that paragraph (which was in parentheses) was an amazing short short story. yaay, idleberry! and lindsey wrote "and in one of those books, i want a spider, pressed between pages like a flower." and that you compared a crushed spider to a flower and it came out lovely. whoa. this is just good. yes, so maybe i've been thinking too much lately, but you both got a few tears out of me and i'm not really the teary type. not for the past couple years anyway. don't know what's going on lately. i think it means i need to look more at things like this. oh. yes. http://world.honda.com/robot/ why is it that one can feel so up one day and so down the next? why is it that we're always asking this question? gar. ah, but new things con't: i bought herrmann & kleine's 'our noise' and it is happy bloopy-blorpy summery noise :) robyn "I take whoas and awesomes as far deeper criticism than your average 'a radical departure from the mosh-metal norm' or 'groundbreaking, ambitious, and ultimately essential,' since the latter is demonstrably easy to do but a decent 'whoa' is notoriously tough to fake." - http://www.lastplanetojakarta.com ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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Going home alone ================ Going home alone from the ridge of East Coast lost in a world she had known as a girl She knows her lover lies south, in Milton Keynes Playing along and then sleepy as night Warm in the bum that conceal her from sight she is accustomed to frowning to people Taking the time as he walks on the plane Holding the flowers he picked in the rain walking in shadows to his Isobella Safe in the dawn he gets under the sheets His Isobella a heavenly sweet Wet dreams that was put there to save and protect him He knows that time can not endlessly go If he keeps love from Izzy and not let her know she will be gone too and he could not bear it Hope at the bottom he calls almost big Folk take for granted as they walk to gigs She starts deep breathing and I'd listen to her Sir all I want is a chance to amend Isobel deficiency please do not send Me far away from my arse Me far away from my arse Me far away from my arse Isobella ding dinglading ding ding ding Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Tue Jun 25 22:33:48 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 22:33:48 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Skyline of the Olympus Mons Message-ID: <20020625213348.87611.qmail@web14401.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everyone. It's been really quiet on here lately. Has anyone else noticed? I used to open my emails almost every night and get 8 or 10 in my inbox. Recently it's been about 3. Lurking is the new lurking, after a brief manic of everyone posting and no mistake. Some little vagabond kicked my back door in last week whilst I was at the piccys watching Spiderman (not bad, but don't expect anything too taxing). The scoundrel hotfooted it away with my playstation and my shiny new mobile. That means I'm now on my third phone in 2 weeks, after my first one went for a swim in a very hot cup of tea, and subsequently became a bit poorly. I get paid tomorrow and I can't wait. It's crap being skint. I can finally get poor Scooby the goldfish some food, after he's been forced to live off of left over pasta, creme eggs and tomato soup. I've got my eye on a rather cool t-shirt too and I'll pick up some peanuts for my bird feeder in the back yard. I should call it a sparrow feeder really because that's all I've ever seen at it. Oh, well, sparrows need feeding too. It can't be much fun for the poor little sods. They never get to reel around their front room to "The Boy With The Arab Strap" half pissed do they? Or do they? He was called Scooby before Storytelling too before anyone says anything. I'm thinking of launching a legal action (um.) Ho Hum, sorry it's a bit boring. That's what being skint will do for you. Before I post again I promise to discover a new colour, have a number one record about a penguin and successfully bring the mammoth back from extinction. Does everyone on here look forward to Idleberry's posts? I know I do. I think we should elect her El Presidente and build her a palace and/or a big bronze statue. What do you think? Leader. Leader. Leader. Take care and enjoy Glasto if you're going. Loads of Love Dean XX "As a gale on the mountainside bends the oak tree I am rocked by my love" Sappho __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From supergirl918 at xxx.com Wed Jun 26 01:12:20 2002 From: supergirl918 at xxx.com (Jill Henkels) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 19:12:20 -0500 Subject: Sinister: stare....... Message-ID: stare... how do i contract time? large movements only come when selecting new music. how is it that it can be quite so quiet here? has everyone entered the same zone as me? very little seems to get accomplished; just enough to meet the deadline, no matter if it is correct. each wall is adorned with a clock to constantly remind us that time is, indeed, the corporate sponsored religion. stare.... in such a sterile environment, one's brain slowly becomes unhinged, though mine has excelled in only 2.5 months. the results are interesting: quick, spastic movements when away from these cubicle walls, mood swings brought on by thoughts of sad times of the past (why can't i be there instead of here?), frantically grasping for my legs in fear that they've simply fallen off for they are no use here in the land of email and speaker phone. direct human contact leaves me shuddering, craving for the shadows. stare.... life (whatever is allowed, at least) away from the corporation is now indirectly affected. sexual advances are now required to be booked through an office assistant; fifteen minute meetings only please. i've stopped listening to others' tales for my jealousy for their lives makes me an unhappy, and therefore (according to the sign), an unproductive employee. stare..... i wonder if the two neighbors of mine even know what the other looks like; they are constantly on conference calls to one another just feet apart; this is called efficiency. in my space, time has frozen; the company calendar reminds me of january and brags a photo of germany. june saddened me with the image of poppies and was quickly discarded. moments of joy can be found: when the coffee machine slips and gives me two cups rather than just one; when a print job can be successfully located through the sea of cubicles. sometimes people bring donuts. i don't like donuts, but i do like to take one to remind me of someplace with flavor. stare......... this is my life now, for the next 40 years or so. i've taken my place in front of that ladder. the sign begs that we wait our turn; please don't push for everyone will get the chance to plunge to their death once we can no longer climb. they do say that the life expectancy rate is getting longer. this will allow me the opportunity to enjoy life a bit, that is if i've planned and saved appropriately. stare...... jillianne ps. still working on that quote, so until then i shall borrow one from sara. after all, as all cover bands claim, it's meant to be a compliment, not laziness: "all the people'd stare as if we were both quite insane someday my name and his are going to be the same" _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hobart at xxx.uk Wed Jun 26 10:41:36 2002 From: hobart at xxx.uk (Jim Sephton) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:41:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the picnic at the centre of the universe Message-ID: <001601c21cf5$adaa9c80$5c67883e@default> hello my little scrumptious little gorgeous bits of scrumptious gorgeousness. and archel. i'm about to fly to glastonbury, so i can't stop. besides, as the buddha once said 'talk is for pussies, silence is WHERE ITS AT!' or he would have done, if he hadn't been busily staying silent at the time. just a quick one, then. no fucking about straight to the point.. yeah! so...here's the point the one you were waiting for its here there will be a PICNIC in BIRMINGHAM the weekend of the 21st/22nd july. i haven't arranged the exact date yet, i will do that soon. the gorgeous dimitra daisy and sunny set will be coming to visit, and i'm hoping i can persuade a few others to come too. (taylor, are you reading?) there will be some room at my house, although not a lot. the picnic will be in cannon hill park, because the cinema there has a bar we can go into if it rains. and because cannon hill park is nice. if you stay out of the way of the roller-bladers and pushchairs. see you there, or i'll want to know why.. and i don't accept 'i live in a different country' as an excuse. (speaking of which, will somebody in australia say 'hi' to jeremy for me?) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------- one more thing. some of you may recall a certain cat power gig the night of the greenwich picnic that i was trying to persuade you to go to. the following may be of interest. or it might if you like cat power anyway. otherwise, just don't read it. i would have posted this earlier, but i didn't. 'a cat in the bush is worth.....' cat power at the bush hall Sunday 5th May the bush hall looks like it should be filled with posh ladies sipping tea and saying 'ooh, baroness jocasta, the working classes are FRIGHTFULLY presumptuous these days'. tonight, it was full of smartly-dressed scruffbags and scruffily-dressed smartbags, all looking suitably reverential. they had come here to worship, after all. the support act were called 'somebody (dwight? john? malcolm?) yorkston and the athletes' and they were rather fantastic. they are not exactly stretching the boundaries of alt. country, but when you can make the centre sound this fine, that doesn't really matter. clever lyrics, gorgeous tunes. if you don't hear of them again, then there's no justice in the music industry. so, you probably won't hear of them again. chan marshall, aka cat power, has a reputation for giving 'unpredictable' performances at gigs. this was my first feline experience. i'd heard she lasted 15 minutes at one recent gig. i was hoping they wouldn't talk, or heckle her, or do anything to upset her as she crept onstage with her guitar and muttered something which everyone laughed at. it was probably very funny. a shame i couldn't understand it. i've never been good with muttery people which meant i missed most of chan's asides that evening. judging from the guffaws which resounded around me, she must be a Mistress of Wit. she started off beautifully, delivering material from both 'moon pix' and her covers album in her uniquely unearthly style, barely pausing for breath in between numbers. moving between the piano and the guitar, cracking unintelligable but clearly hilarious jokes as she went, she did a great job of Impressing An Audience Who Would Have Been Impressed Even If She'd Turned Up, Blown Her Nose, And Buggered Off Again. but when you sit in the centre of such a congregation, its impossible not to end up clapping in time to their tune, and, in this case, it would have been unjustifiable. as the gig went on, she got a little more, shall we say, 'quirky', getting bored of songs halfway through, improvising frequently, appealing for audience participation (this seemed to involve sing-a-long-a-can-i-get-a-witness-with-chan on several occasions, and whistling on command), getting notes wrong, stopping, starting and generally fucking about. nobody else would have got away with it. she did. i heard someone else call the gig 'shambolic', and i have to agree. but this wasn't a lacklustre, unexciting, badly drawn boy shambles. this was The World Of Cat Power. she drew us in, she played with us, and she showed us how special it felt to be played with. she broke every rule in the Good Gig Guide. i can't wait to see her again. frustrating, hugely entertaining, amusing, disconcerting. i think i'm in love. ian ------------------------------------------ Tomorrow will bring happiness Or at least, another day Phil Ochs ------------------------------------------ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lizdaplyn at xxx.com Wed Jun 26 12:57:42 2002 From: lizdaplyn at xxx.com (Liz Daplyn) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:57:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A woman needs a fish like a man needs a bicycle Message-ID: *** Such sallies and swoons. A starling flock. A total eclipse of the moon. Paul Muldoon *** So anyway, as I was blearily sitting down to tea and toast earlier, I glanced up from my kitchen-table concentration on buttering and lemon-curding and out the window to notice that there was an elegant young lady mallard perching on the garden fence, her tail feathers spread for balance on the thin wooden support. She seemed rather agitated, not to mention out of place in a small garden entirely surrounded by tall houses, but it wasn't until a couple of minutes later that I noticed her full complement of onetwothreefourfivesixSEVEN baby ducklings clustered round a sizeable flowerpot on the ground below. The nice man next door and I came to the conclusion that she probably sneakily laid her eggs in someone's back garden, hatched them out and is now wondering how to get them to the park pond. The nice man is phoning the appropriate people and they should all be happier by the time I get back home. Hopefully. Crikey. On to less important things: SUMMER HERE KIDS! Nice to see that Edwyn Collins will be getting a heap of royalties from the use of "Never Met a Girl Like You Before" on some hair dye advert. That'll keep him in Hawaiian shirts for a while yet. The inexplicable bruises (right side of the body only for some reason) of the last week's fun and games fading, like the morning, into green and gold, it's time for reflection, along with a load of other irrelevancies. What else is a jobless girl to do on a lovely sunny London day? DANCING "How Does It Feel To Be Loved?" was the question, and I'm not sure I can remember the answer, but we (having nailed our courage to the sticking point) danced our socks off anyway, despite most of the fab records being at least twice the average age. I think. The Buffalo Bars (what macho people have on the front of their Sports Futility Vehicles to fend off the large ruminative wildlife of suburbia) is fetchingly red all over, which could get trying eventually. And, as Mark H mentioned, the lack of signage on the 'conveniences' was mighty amusing, at least after one's first visit, when viewing the first visits of other parishioners. Also, !dang! expensive bottled beer. BOWLING There was bowling and it was very good. Rowan's R!O!C!K!S! with its dingy interior and authentically sticky floor. Cheap bitter, too. I improved no end over the two games played, and demand a rematch at some point. Luckily, I can sneakily get some midweek practice in on the cheap. There was drinking in the pub and eating of Nando's corporate whore chicken chunks, then more drinking and such back at my house for the truly hardcore. Am resolved, having marvelled at the twinkling fingers of Mr Chu on my poor neglected steelstrung acoustic, to relearn the chords that I have forgotten and then some more. E minor, where art thou? Also to spend more time in bed with sinisterines. WANKING What the clever-clever monologue in "Mandingo cliche" is designed to make those of the assembled who are susceptible to girls and social theory do. Like Todd S himself, one would presume. It all makes sense, but there's something rather cynically manipulative about it, added to the wisdom-from-the-mouths-of-babes factor. It would be more interesting if she was a witty and perceptive hideous troll rather than another jobbing actress with perfect teeth. Still, while on the subject of shallowness: WIMBLEDON Mmm, tennis players. Like the Girl from Ipanema, many of them are tall and tanned and young and lovely, not to mention lithe and fit. Phwoar. Cold showers all round, then. Love, Liz :x *** Politeness lasts like a flower, then curls, darkens and returns to itself. Steve Aylett *** _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Wed Jun 26 14:54:10 2002 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 14:54:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S merch ... Message-ID: <05cd01c21d18$f89c2b00$9426fea9@katrina> Just to let you know that we have two Belle & Sebastian vinyl stickers for sale. Those of you who were at the recent US/Canadian gigs would have seen them there and we now have the leftover stock. The designs are a black & white "I Love My Car" sticker and a blue, red and white "Jet Tours" sticker. Both items are £1.50 each and postage is included in this price. Saves people paying $20 for the from eB*y. We have also made a new batch of the "Jet Tours" mugs and you can find all of these at http://www.banchoryshop.net cheers, Katrina @ Banchory banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6ld scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Jun 26 15:29:17 2002 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:29:17 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie Board Message-ID: <002601c21d1d$ddc7a160$5e6c253e@pjmillerwanadoo> Hello, Could someone provide a link to Neil swearing on the Bowlie board please? I don't seem to be able to find my way round it properly and I don't want to miss out. I wish he'd done his swearing here on Sinister, we used to have a very close-knit swearing community. Perhaps someone could provoke him over toilet facilities at Glastonbury or something. Thank you in advance. Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daf_moore at xxx.com Wed Jun 26 15:48:00 2002 From: daf_moore at xxx.com (daf_moore at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:48:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Peter's wish is my command Message-ID: <6403512.1025102880045.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Hi All, The fun starts here: http://www.buro9.com/forum/showthread.php?s=0a2bc255b7e86b79930a2f539fca9f28&threadid=1971 Everyone have fun at the QMU & Glasto Love, David +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Wed Jun 26 16:48:00 2002 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Our Late Burglary Years Message-ID: <20020626154800.4992.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> Miller - Is - Back! Turkey - Spreadeagled!! (Motson, October 1987. I still have the video.) I just can't resist following the Miller out of sinister oblivion and into open skies. Possibly it's a trap - an impostor seeking to engineer a Last Round-Up of old forgotten sinister has-beens, and prevent them ever posting about to anything again, even about McDonald's characters. Perhaps sinister can join in that barrel of fun, in fact: can anyone name the entire McDonalds cast of characters? Hamburglar - Mayor McCheese - The Grimace - and - ? That took at least one and a half minutes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Wed Jun 26 16:49:02 2002 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:49:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: p.s. Message-ID: <0a6b01c21d28$ffa69600$9426fea9@katrina> Also, B&S are finally making it along to Peel Acres on July 25th so tune in and maybe they'll be on the telly over this weekend with Glasto footage. As Neil would say ... Rock on. cheers Katrina @ Banchory. http://www.banchory.net http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Wed Jun 26 17:30:29 2002 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:30:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Happy To Oblige Message-ID: <025b01c21d2e$cc426680$ba84fc3e@neil> Miller, Fuck you. Fuck you to eternity. Pseudo-Spanish prick. How's that? Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mail at xxx.uk Wed Jun 26 18:19:25 2002 From: mail at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:19:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: meet-up before QMU gig Message-ID: <000d01c21d35$9fd1e380$7eb187d9@ivorsserver> Sorry for the absence of profanities / expletives in this post. There's at least two of us meeting up before the Belle and Sebastian gig at Glasgow QMU, 27th June, at 6.30pm in a pub called Brel on Ashton Lane. For those of you unfamiliar with Glasgow, Ashton lane is to be found off Byres Road, half way between Hillhead Underground Station and University Avenue. Hope to see you there. I'll be the short bloke wearing a tatty linen jacket with a hole in the pocket, I think. Gordon P.S. Nice to see Ms.Daplyn's keeping us up-to-date with Mallard news. I trust they all got home safely. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From benapps at xxx.com Wed Jun 26 18:27:39 2002 From: benapps at xxx.com (Ben Apps) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:27:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My manager's my bride Message-ID: Hi I'm Ed Winchester, and you're watching BSTV Sports, brought to you in association with Hello Kitty. Breaking news yesterday, and a man who in his own words "don't understand the rules of the game" has been given the chance to prove himself at first division Wimbledon FC. Yes Stuart Murdoch is their new permanent first team manager. Fans and fans alike are asking is it mere coincidence that he took the job, and the impending move to Milton Keynes only when that rascal Ken Chu had moved out? We think not. In World Cup news, it could have been a brilliant Korea, had those loveably efficient Germans not done what their so darn good at doing. It seems like ages since I went to a sinister picnic. And now I've gone and left Primrose Hill behind for a while, but save some Flapjack for me Daplyn, y'hear? Until then I'll have to settle for going to the park here in Simi Valley CA with Rachel - a Simister Picnic if you will, and I know that'll be pretty good too. I think I'm talking to myself now so I'll leave you with the gentle strains of the Maverick's with their number one hit, Wandering Alone. I'm off to grab some sweaty crotches, sugar. toodle-oo Ben xXx _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From michael at xxx.com Wed Jun 26 19:21:10 2002 From: michael at xxx.com (Michael Vance) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:21:10 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Peter's wish is my command In-Reply-To: <6403512.1025102880045.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <7D804C05-8931-11D6-BBB0-000393827B88@linuxgames.com> On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, at 07:48 AM, daf_moore at btinternet.com wrote: > http://www.buro9.com/forum/showthread.php?s=0a2bc255b7e86b79930a2f539fca9f28& > threadid=1971 I haven't gotten any work done for the last hour. And while we're not supposed to talk about the list on the list... "Sinister-envy"? Am I daft? To think that people envy us at all, or even think of us. Which reminds me of a story. I was dating a girl in seventh grade (Lord, I'm old now, and none of you wished me a happy birthday) and for Valentine's Day I gave her a teddy bear and a dead rose, only it was supposed to be alive (and there were supposed to be a dozen) but things didn't turn out that way. We broke up, as thirteen year olds should, and then many years later, five to be almost exact, a friend of mine was dating this same girl. And he mentioned she had this bear and that she said I had given it to her. How nice, I thought, and then mentioned that I really hadn't talked to her in years even though we were in all the same classes. My friend said it was because she thought that I hated her because she wasn't smart. This was laughable for several reason. One, that she even remembered I existed. Two, that she would think I hate (what a word) her. Three, that it was because she isn't smart. She was in fact quite intelligent (she was in my classes, right? snicker!), and beyond that, an incredibly talented piano player. A lovely girl. And who would be such an elitist prick anyway (surely not I). Isn't life strange? And then Ben Apps mentioned a picnic, and no one asked LA sinister people, but it they had, I would have recommended Echo Park so that we could go paddle boat riding. Oh well. m. -- Mother, I never knew, every time I see the ocean, every time-- -- Issa +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From theboywiththemiddleeasternstrap at xxx.uk Wed Jun 26 21:10:56 2002 From: theboywiththemiddleeasternstrap at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Thomas=20Henderson?=) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 21:10:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: if you're going to be really vulgar you should say cunt Message-ID: <20020626201056.97169.qmail@web20609.mail.yahoo.com> hiya, i'm just saying goodbye everyone, i'm going away for a week, going to glastonbury indeed. i had to hide all of the rubbidge in my room as it's being sub-let to my nephew over the weekend. so i'm going to hide the leads of the computer and *the* record is back in it's frame, safe from harms way. so packing up for the trip i decided to pack my record (cd actually) bag so we could party back at the tent, i can stay up all night (except when i'm at pop league for some reason) because of my job, so i wanted to be partying, but i've had to cut down to a couple of mini disks (discs?) especially for the car journey, it's about eight hours or something. a new phrase has come into my life recently "conflict of interests" i'm a wanted man in this small town and there just isn't enough of me to go around, i'm wanted to dj, put on band nights and still work behind the bar in a nightclub thingy and (mis?)manage two bands, fuck. so now that lurking is the new lurking and swearing is the new cursing i'm of to fucking lurk and see a couple of fucking bands, you'd better make sure glasto is a good show robertson! anyway byeee all thomas x ps:has ken lost interest in the answers to the treasure hunt? ps2: enjoy the QM all you luck folk who are going ps3: good luck to all those people moving home recently, especially the wee mallard chicks and there mum __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From foranotherdream at xxx.com Wed Jun 26 22:19:05 2002 From: foranotherdream at xxx.com (bus stoppers) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 14:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: soft and sweet but way to damn looooong Message-ID: <20020626211905.99310.qmail@web12405.mail.yahoo.com> aloha sinister :) i'm tipping my hat to the islands of hawaii. i could say it's because my mother was born there, but really, it's because my last ex-boyfriend is there right now for the week. steve is the only boy that i have dated or "made out with" that has not minded that we keep in touch. we used to work together and all of my manager friends at borders hate his guts. but love him i do. at the comp lab again. catching up on my reading of posts and such. haven't had much time but to read star wars for english. my stummy is very grummbly. maybe it's because in the past four days i have eaten: 2 sandwiches on wheat bread (i think they had honey), a bagel, 5 eggo waffles, and a croissant (sp?). (this is not to mention all of the coffee and mountain dew and nicotine too.) i think that others can hear it loud and clear, but i can't deny what i am. poverty-stricken. i keep getting a weird side glance from the lad at the computer next to me. i'm not embarrassed though because i can't deny what i am. poverty-stricken. oh well. speaking of such things has reminded me that i think that i had a heart attack yesterday. i really do. my chest was super sharp and painful. my heart was beating oddly. my left arm was patchily numb here and there. hmmm... further down the thought path. today i was dry heaving in the bathroom at school in between my classes. my stummy hates me! well, while in the stall, i hear some girl ask another toilet patron "is she alright?" but oh no. that was not all. "that is soooo disgusting!" how mean she was. i almost crawled out from underneath the door seeing as i was already on my knees to yell mean things back at her in hopes of her feeling so bad that she never makes another mean comment about any other unhealthy girl!! "shut up you fucking mean face poop-shit! i have an ulcer!!" no. i don't have an ulcer. but i could. heart attack. ulcer. it's all the same, right? that would have fixed her wagon. the toilet was my only friend this morning. i'll never forget it's kindness. at work last night, i was so sleepy that EVERYTHING was funny. you know what kind of state i mean. giggles and laughs were had by all the girls in the cafe. i think we scared most of the customers. hopefully most of them scared away forever. my manager scott that i write with for the dirty vicar's frank's apa thingie and my co-worker anna (who i lovingly have re-named: anna-stasia-cheerio...she's wonderful) were talking about starting a band. talking out of our asses of course, but amusing all the same. scott, another manager joann, and me all had bright shirts on. super bright orange, medium bright orange, and yellow. we then and there became the "highlighter gang". our soul's purpose was to brighten up days like markers! anna was going to join our ship and adapt obnoxious flourescent green. it then turned into a name for our band. needless to say we kept going as we were all out of control. basically the conversation ended with scott and anna-stasia-cheerio dropping out because of creative differences and me succeeding at my solo career on a side-walk of santa monica with my mini travel size xylaphone (1/2 in the children's department), my harmonica (bob d. style), an egg shaker on one butt cheek, and a tamborine on the other...sometimes work is just so fun when i'm not working too hard. so it's all set. my new career. forget this whole english/photography degree. i'm going to make a living playing music! all i need is a set list...any suggestions? ++++++++++ rrrrobyn said: > new things: i bought new headphones you are a lucky girl and i am jealous. i have some headphones that i have had for forever. they are way cute. they fold up all nice so they fit anywhere. the only thing is that the fuzzy black part (seemingly only found on the old-skool types) needs to be replaced. badly. when i get home at night, all i find is bits of black foam. like dandruff, but not. and i can't find any stores that sell any replacements. if anyone knows of a good earphone foam store, e-mail me... ++++++++++ jillianne quoted my quote, (she's a sweetie-pie) but i must publicly admit to changing some words...for the REAL quote, check out the hollies and the song "bus stop". it's one of my favortists songs in the whole world. okay. i have written way to much and much too long. my heart attack is coming back. plus i have to go number 1...back to my favorite toilet in the world... love and aeroplanes over seas, sara p.s...does anyone else remember saying: "no cutsies no buttsies"? p.p.s...i heart ken chu ===== all the people'd stare as if we were both quite insane someday my name and his are going to be the same __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rousel.lake at xxx.net Thu Jun 27 02:33:55 2002 From: rousel.lake at xxx.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?rousel.lake?=) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 03:33:55 +0200 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?korea_team_fighting!?= Message-ID: hi. my name is russell and i am a lurker. look, im sorry ok. but you people are so intimidating that.... not really, i don't know why i didn't write. I feel pangs of guilt. every attack on lurkers cut me with a thousand razor sharp knives straight to the heart like some thing that cuts other things. but as soon as i caught wind that lurking is the new lurking...well i got my act together. i bought storytelling yesterday. by complusion. its twee. very very twee. i haven't fallen in love with it yet. i may, i may not. but at least big john shaft is worth 15 american dollars all by itself. in other news: poor little korea, over-powered by the krauts. i still love korea's slogan that was plastered up all over the place "korea team fighting!" its like the poorly translated instructions for a kite or something. but now i'm supporting the germans. i see brazil as the dallas cowboys of american football...pure evil. aww poor korea. oh my god i have nothing to say but at least i'm no longer a lurker so you can take me off of that list, -russell Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,13 €/mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34€/mn)" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From innerlemming at xxx.com Thu Jun 27 04:08:35 2002 From: innerlemming at xxx.com (laurel lemming) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 20:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I want to be the girl who sings the Lotto song.. Message-ID: <20020627030835.46059.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> hey, sinister, I saw Stu(cute nice voice great arms and lovely chest)art last night. really. only he was 14 and I was about 12, and he had red hair and we were tripping through a gravelly parking lot together. and he was trying to convince me that I liked him better than my boy, and we went on an escalator and he kissed me on the cheek, and then he whispered to me conspiratorililily in an American accent that he "wasn't really Irish" and ran away. Irish? what!? but there were blue veins, blue, blue veins. hey, sinister, there were two cute kids at the Chicago show who were getting married. they know who they are. I have pictures of them, and meant to mail them, but I was among those who waited hours talking in the rain outside, and my pen was water-soluble. mail me. I'll send you your cutie pictures. hey, sinister, I've been painting my room pistachio-coloured. today I went to the store for more painty-rollers, and picked up a car with a painting technique on it described as 'frottage.' this made me laugh. lovelovelovelovelove lazy lime-painter lemming (bra-sil! boom-boom-boom) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Jun 27 11:12:36 2002 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 12:12:36 +0200 Subject: Sinister: McDonald's! McDonald's! a Pizza Hut! a Pizza Hut! Message-ID: <002c01c21dc3$2b91d140$7869243e@pjmillerwanadoo> Er... thanks, Neil. Thanks to Aitor and Big Dave. I blame falling sales on notoriously difficult to police P2P file-sharing platforms such as Glassex and Winalot. The Pinefox asked about McDonald's characters. I only know the core duo of Ronald McDonald and Hamburglar by name. I mean, what would the others be called - Humphrey Milkshake? But I reckon I could recognise any of them in an identity parade. My favourite McDonald's character is Harassed Manager Mucking In, followed by New Recruit Being Bollocked. Did anyone see RICHARD AND JUDY yesterday? That was my Uncle Pete and Aunty Ann standing outside their pub. Seven couples made up entirely of regulars have become engaged this year. I think this is a classic case of a speculative bubble. Does anyone know what TV coverage is lined up from GLASTONBURY? Will it be live or highlights? Does anyone know where I can download snippets of dialogue from Gregory's Girl? I would like to use them to replace all that JERSEY'S WHERE IT'S AT stuff on STORYTELLING. I like the instrumentals best, they are kinda DEEP FOCUS, like the new PRIMAL SCREAM record. BIG JOHN SHAFT sounds like THE ORANGE JUICE or maybe TEXAS FEVER, I think. Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com Thu Jun 27 14:07:07 2002 From: pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com (hannah brown) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 14:07:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a stupid soap-opera Message-ID: I haven't been writing lately, mainly in fear of list abuse, dullness or general unreadability but today i don't care, i've got to talk or i might just cry. I went to my college bar on friday in the intention of seducing a particularly cute bloke buy the name of alec. All was going fine, i was drunk on champagne and he was chatting to me about things and smiling as he did. Knowing that he was going to leave the country for two months i decided to just to do something about it. I led him outside and tried to kiss him, he just froze and wouldn't look at me, it was raining hard so i had to squint through my wet glasses (hardly and attractive look). I tried to talk to him but he just said, "sorry, i am a bit weird", he didnt even want to see the tindersticks and said he would be "busy packing",i told him i thought he was lovely and i he just ignored it. so i did that thing where you go home and you cry and you want to die, coz i have liked him for sooooo long and i just want to make him smile. But my flat mate was great to me, i was a blubbering mess so he gave me a tape and told me to listen to it in bed and try and cry lots coz it will help, and it did. I went to the tindersticks and it was truely beautiful, the weather was perfect and although it would have been great to have someone to squeeze when the excitement of the opening chords to "she's gone" came on, i was glad i was there with my friend. they played "jism" too, a fine, fine song I have seen alec today and i wanted to apologise but i couldn't breath very well, he was wearing a very cute jumper, i think he may have run away now that he has seen me. i am sorry about the self-depressing shite of that but i just had to talk, and i won't mention it again, it has just made feel stupid and a bit sad. Hello to everyone who i saw on saturday, i hope breams got home ok too. I am going to make the effort to come to a scotland picnic coz it would be good to see some more of you all and i won't post again until i've got lots of musical/b&s related stories to amaze you with. love and stuff hannah b _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From psi_fla at xxx.com Thu Jun 27 15:38:17 2002 From: psi_fla at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Simon=20Fallaha?=) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 15:38:17 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Yes, it could have been a brilliant Korea Message-ID: <20020627143817.81378.qmail@web13801.mail.yahoo.com> Hello again everyone. Clever phrase you used Ben, I saw fit to use it as my title. Well, everything's pretty quiet on the Psi-front. I'm still looking for a placement for next year (I have until October) and whilst doing so, am keeping myself occupied in many ways. One is of course searching for a holiday, but there are more. For all you literature addicts, I've started reading Cold Comfort Farm. It wasn't long ago that I realised it was the inspiration to the famous Divine Comedy song Something For The Weekend (one of my all-time favourite DC songs). Neil Hannon claimed it was inspired by Kate Beckinsale's lovely face, and then I discovered she was the star of the film version of Cold Comfort Farm. Thought I'd try the book out first though, and so far, it's very good (I'm some 70 pages into it). Sat through Live And Let Die last night. It was one of the few Bond films I hadn't seen, and it was good. Speaking of films, I'm assuming most of you have already seen Spider-Man (which, if you haven't, I'd definitely recommend). However I was recently reminded of the blantant product placement in the film (Carlsberg, Macy Gray). Did anyone spot it? Mind you, at least it wasn't as obvious as in Josie and the Pussycats. I also saw the Final Fantasy film recently, which I know a number of people have avoided cos of the "all animation, no plot" rumours that most critics have been spreading. Actually, the plot's not too bad, even if it is overly familiar. What struck me was how real the characters in the film looked sometimes. I remember in my "Stuff" post earlier this month, I talked about how exciting the World Cup was. Now I'm beginning to wonder if the critics were right about regretting the loss of France, Argentina and Portugal (of course when they wrote those articles I totally disagreed with them). I mean, I was happy so long as England, Ireland, South Korea and Japan were still in. Now they're all gone, what's left? A Brazil team that's nowhere near as good as their predecessors versus the "robotic" Germans. Someone wrote yesterday that it'd have been ridiculous if Korea had made the final - I don't think so. They were exciting to watch in nearly all of their games, even if they don't have players as gifted as the so-called "big" countries. Yes, they were lucky to get past Spain, but it's always a welcome sight to see a "small" country reach the final. Let's just say I really don't think the final will be that entertaining... I'm off to listen to the Gemma Hayes album again. All of you who are off to Glastonbury, enjoy yourselves. Take care, Psi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucasjames at xxx.com Thu Jun 27 17:56:05 2002 From: lucasjames at xxx.com (lucasjames at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 09:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: So it appears time to grow up... Message-ID: <20020627095607.4733.h018.c000.wm@mail.bolt.com.criticalpath.net> In my 20th year I discovered I was everywhere I wanted to be and apparently that was nowhere by greater standards. I studied film for a few years becuase everything else was bullshit and I decided at least I could watch movies, only to then become a philosophy major. So here I am, next year I will graduate and be thusly thrust into a world that apparently doesn't care for my type, a songwriter by nature since I was a boy, early on I realized not that that would take me nowhere but that the majority of the people that it does take anywhere are completely false, made of fake parts with "images" and what not. No one really cares for the trueness of a songwriter, one who doesn't care if you like it but hopes the more you listen that maybe, just maybe you will connect with that human aspect that seems to be far lost in much of todays, art, music, whatever, no one wants reality and truth, we'd rather look at someone we could never be and if we were, we would most likely hate being. So I took to philosophy, big deal, no chance I can help the world as it is too far gone, I just want to prepare myself for whatever is next but in the meantime I can't tell if I'm wasting my time or not? Many seem to think I am but I feel released from so many of the standard rules of the world that I must've gotten somewhere, nonetheless it hasn't much helped my work ethics. So I ask of you all a favour, if there is any of you that is happy, or even satisfied, doing something you love or respect or anything of that sort, please send me some advice. Unlike everything I've been told I know there must be careers, jobs, whatever out there that are skewed from the center so that people like me who can't accept the big 15 (business, marketing, etc...(Cog in a machine work)), can continue our searching and not be too miserable or bored along the way. I guess I'm asking the little guy, the minority to tell me what he does for a living, because to some degree we all have to do something to eat, so there must be some other options, I would love to hear any of these options at all, Give me some ideas because the 15 that have been presented to me leave me little hope. All I need are some ideas of what I could do that wouldn't kill me. Lucas James Lucasjames at bolt.com ------------------------------------------------------- Bolt. Everything you need to speak your mind, hang out, hook up ... whatever. Tagbooks ™, Bolt Notes ™, message boards, personality quizzes, photos, free stuff and lots more! http://www.bolt.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From staralful at xxx.com Thu Jun 27 18:20:07 2002 From: staralful at xxx.com (Jonathan Skinner) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:20:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: every night she kisses someone new-never you Message-ID: Dear All i hope this finds everyone in a fine state of fettleness- almost in as good state of fettleness as i am in. I am just back from my two week foray into the world of Italy which may be my most favourite world of all. I really can't describe my freelings for that country even though this is my second visit in as many years. This year we was in Rome ( stayed near termini- via principe amedeo) and then to Airola near Caserta in Campania which was nice-the only english speaking people ( native) in the entire area. It was incredible and it gave us the oppertunity to go around pompeii and the amalfi which was delightful. what i hate though is when you come back from a trip and you sort of feel you have learned something from it and then you talk to your friends and nothing has changed and you want to tell them things you learnt even though they politely ask about the holiday when they really don't want to hear about it and you don't want to boast- this is the nice thing i can bore you to death and you can just click delete...................................................................... ....................................now One thing i will say was that i went to a brothel- my parents thought it was the right time seeing as i am 18 and all. well actully it was a brothel yes BUT it was buried under layers of volcanic ash for nigh on 2000 years- it did however proove a highly educational day (Well 10 minutes considering there was the rest of pompeii to see) it had the names ofwhores who had vd and the ones who *ahem* gave the best pleasure and drawings on the wall what the audio guide stated as being that days version of the kama sultra with interesting diagrams none of which had the words "requires practice" or what ever at the end of it- the childrens audioguide that one of us ended up with was hilarious though. "this is a house where prostitutes worked, notice it has 5 rooms with stone beds- the paintings on the wall cannot be made out now as we move out of the house and back onto what was a bustling end of pompeii" - i bet it was. anyway enough about whores and self indulgent tirades on my holidays ( which were ace by the way i'm not sure i mentioned that). An interesting array of events have taken place in the whole B+S world since i stopped living and started studying. Isobel left *gasp* how unexpected considering the foul form she was on. I think though this may be a good thing for the band- i don't know why. It must be highly insulting for them if they do infact read this list to see how people are weeping and whaling ( and in some cases giving personal insults about the girl endowed with *the hamster voice*) she and the band are human beings who happen to be lucky enough be talented in a certain direction and actully have some direction which is more than can be said about most on this list ( including my self at the top of the list who officially has not a clue about what he wants from life) The band will go on- if she had stayed the band may have collapsed from the pressure of someone being unhappy and so i think it is a good thing. I wish her well and the band of course ( who i think should play ireland) Also it was nice to see Neil back on form after so many polite emails ( hee hee i liked the ones on the jeepster forum but mostly because i hate that forum and i think they hate us) i should really get back to being idle for the first time in while so i bid you all goodday and godspeed. plague and pestilence with some lollipops for all j +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayeckard at xxx.com Thu Jun 27 22:42:49 2002 From: jayeckard at xxx.com (Jay Eckard) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:42:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: McDonaldLand Message-ID: How could you forget your old McDonaldLand pals Fry Guys and Birdie? Jay -- "Knowing? That's easy. Everyone does that ad nasueum I just sort of hope." Dr. Who _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Thu Jun 27 22:08:38 2002 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:08:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: fighting fire with fire is probably the stupidest thing you can do Message-ID: Dear Sinister, Duck. I quite like �Storytelling� actually. Much seems to have been made about the albums brevity, and a perceived value for money which the album doesn�t have, but all of that seems at best peripheral to the appreciation of the music, which most people (not everyone), seem to agree is good or better. A lot of the people who have criticised the music itself seem to be criticising it because it�s film music, that the songs, especially the instrumentals are nice, but nothing more than nice. This is a fair enough criticism, but I think that as film music they work well (even if they weren�t included in the film). In fact I think if they�re so inclined Belle & Sebastian could have a decent career scoring films � I�ve read more than once about how the band want to make their next record sound more �free� which is interesting as well, because if they succeed then we�ll have seen them operating at two extremes in as many records. The constraints put on them by electing to do the music for �Storytelling� i.e. having to evoke a certain atmosphere with the music dictated by a certain scene or idea within the film etc, have benefited the band I think because they�ve had to change their methodology to fit those constraints. One of the main criticisms levelled at �Fold Your Hands Child�� was that it sounded too much like Belle & Sebastian, that they were operating too much within their own hermetically sealed universe, a criticism I�d certainly agree with, and while the album showcased the best and worst of the band, I think they realised that it was time to move on, that they had to draw a line under their first four albums and handful of EPs and do something different. Doing the music for �Storytelling� forced them to break out of that self-contained way of working, and while the sounds on the album are still recognisably Belle & Sebastian, I think the paradigm shift in the way they worked on the album is evident. This makes it sound like just a transitional record, but I don�t think it is � the only major flaw would seem to be the meagre amount of the music actually used in the film, which is a pity, and I can�t help thinking that the album could�ve been even better if there would�ve been a better relationship between the director and the band � and perhaps future projects will prove more successful in that respect. All this in mind it will be interesting to see where to band go next, and while the notion of a �free� Belle & Sebastian album at first faintly ridiculous, perhaps it will lead them closer to the spirit of those early recordings which most of us seem keen for them to recapture. Duck. So, at this juncture, when the band have cast of the shackles of their past selves and are ready to embrace the future with relish (I bet you 10p that their next album sounds like a combination of Merzbow, Evan Parker, Lloyd Cole, Country Joe and The Fish, DJ Spooky, Captain Beefheart and Wham! and will feature guest appearances from the whole of Jurassic Five � Hi, I�m Sean Lennon and you�re listening to Jurassic Five and Belle & Sebastian), it seems odd that one of the members would decide to leave. Very few people seem saddened by the loss of Isobel Campbell in terms of the music, which most people (not everyone) seem to agree is average or worse, and with Sarah Martin sporting a likeable Moe Tucker-esque vocal (anyone else noticed that?) on whichever song it is on storytelling, it does seem female vocals do have a future in the band in spite of departing members. Being, as I am not dissimilar to said most people I am largely indifferent to the songs Isobel wrote for the band, but I do think it�s sad that she�s gone, because Ms Campbell did seem to encapsulate the very essence of the band � at once twee, affected, distant, but also at times engaging and capable of the momentary flights of artistic fancy that made Belle & Sebastian songs great, a backing vocal here, a cello lick there. Of course, I�m only really considering her public persona here, but it�s hard to argue that she wasn�t, isn�t an iconic figure in certain circles, very enigmatic. Perhaps that�s why she had to go. But it�s a pity anyway. I saw her new album in the jazz section in HMV on Monday, so she is at least moving up in the world in some respects. She is now officially jazz. Duck. What�s with all the England flags knocking around at the moment? I thought they went out of fashion some years ago, and yet as I type I can see three draped out of the upstairs windows, and a couple billowing from car radio aerials belonging some of my neighbours who have suddenly decided they like to wear their patriotism on the proverbial sleeve. I do find it slightly disconcerting to be honest, it probably has something to do with a combination of world cup and jubilee engendered feelings of nationalism, but aren�t both of those over as far as England are concerned? It seems like an odd way to celebrate your love for a country anyway, this rather outr� show of� what? Solidarity? Unity? Surely the pluralism of British (and English, I�ve seen ten England flags for every union jack), culture (a good thing), has displaced the idea that we can all be brought together with one common interest (as symbolised by the flag)? Surely what we should be celebrating are our differences, because our similarities no longer seem all that important. And what exactly do these flags stand for anyway? If they, as I suspect, mean different things to different people (and I�ve seen them up all over the place � in predominantly Asian areas they are perhaps an outward show of �love� for a country that still feels like an adopted home, rather than just a home. Which makes it sound like tokenism, but it�s more complicated than that I think, if having an Indian flag (or whatever), in your window is defiance, a refusal to disengage with the values of what you see to be your �real� homeland, and a rejection of British (or wherever), culture then Asian families draping a union jack from their bedroom windows would be the opposite. Whereas I would say that something approximating a half way point between the two (i.e. no flag whatsoever), would be best � a sense of giving as well as taking culturally, which is how cultures are enriched in the first place), then surely this just reinforces the point about the pluralism of cultures making symbols which represent just one culture defunct. In this respect, and it�s probably my disenfranchisement with the world cup and the jubilee and the rest of it which increases my annoyance with seeing so many flags all over the place, I fail to see what the point in all these flags is. Perhaps it�s just a wilful clinging onto of an idea of England, one that never really existed, except in a few books and paintings and symbols of identity, which we know never existed, but still want back. Goose. Another thing which has been puzzling me, and I�m going to try not to be disparaging about it now (though past attempts have failed), is the continuing popularity of that �Big Brother� show. When the first series arrived on our shores I decided not to watch it on principle (the principle being that it sounded like crap TV), and I didn�t bother watching any of it, avoided discussions about it and genuinely knew absolutely nothing about it. Same for the second series last year. But then as the hype for the new series rolled around, my interest was piqued � why did so many people not just like, but adore this show? Why were so many people (for want of a better word) addicted to it? So one evening I decided to watch � I wanted to try and focus solely on the show and prepared for it so I wouldn�t be unnecessarily distracted whilst it was on, collecting a few bags of salt and vinegar square crisps, a big glass of water and various cushions and stuff for comfort and settled down to watch. What followed was honestly one of the most dull experiences of my existence, and I�m including a nine month stint in a pitch-black womb in this estimation. Honestly, what on earth do people get out of watching? It�s voyeurism (though the extent to which information is withheld from viewers � they cut bits of dialogue deemed too risqu� to broadcast etc does dampen said sense of voyeurism), which tells you that everyone is as boring as you � it�s like hacking someone�s email account only to find the same bits of spam and unwanted chain letters that�ve been lounging in your own account for months. The lives of the participants, the most minor nuances of their characters, their mundane troubles and everyday concerns are laid out in front of us, packaged as if they were entertainment, but in what sense is this entertainment? What does this tell us about humanity? The main complaint of the contestants is, according to my brother who watches the show a fair bit, boredom. Why would I want to watch people being bored? I can eavesdrop on more interesting conversations on the bus, just wandering through town, and then at least I only get fragments and I can fabricate a much more interesting background for the snippets of information I hear, but with Big Brother I get the whole thing, the beginning middle and end of the whole boring story without any room for imagination. And the contestants themselves seem deliberately chosen for their non threatening characteristics, all picked from the same, ugh, demographic to be attractive but vain, outgoing but inarticulate, flirtatious but uncommitted etc etc. The only reason my brother could give for his continual enjoyment of the show (for he has watched all the series� I believe), is that it is �engrossing�. Gladly though, I myself was not engrossed and I don�t intend to watch again � the square crisps were nice though. Anyone who does watch and could enlighten me on the shows merits, about how it�s a fascinating social experiment or a conceptual art �happening or just why they find it entertaining would be more than welcome to email me with their views. Did I say I was going to try not to be disparaging? I�m really in the mood for a good game of duck, duck goose at the moment. Anyone up for that? Cheers. - Kieran _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_sad_witch at xxx.com Thu Jun 27 23:27:00 2002 From: the_sad_witch at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Gillian=20Kirby?=) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:27:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: :-( Message-ID: <20020627222700.14689.qmail@web14205.mail.yahoo.com> Arse! Yahoo are now charging for e-mail forwarding to pop3...meaning my e-mail usage is limited to once a week at the library rather than the comforts of home and Eudora. Grrr.Plus I've moved back from lovely manchester for the summer to the armpit of Lancashire ie. Blackburn. But never fear! I have the About a Boy soundtrack and a ticket for Flaming lips next weekend :-) -Gillian ps-sean, mail will come soon... ===== _________________________ Concrete Society Award winner 1968.. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From loulouhex at xxx.com Fri Jun 28 05:50:19 2002 From: loulouhex at xxx.com (Vilkas .) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 00:50:19 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Bernard Black vs. Lisa Simpson Message-ID: Dear Sinister Kids, HIJINKS : Oh dear. This last weekend, I broke into my own house. Or rather my friend Dave picked the lock of my front door while I held the flashlight. See, I locked my house and car keys in my car. In the ignition. I was only 7 blocks from my house. I was gonna get my car in the morning. Tonight I was gonna stroll(stumble) home. See I was out and about before the birthday party of my friend Dickie and it was just easier to not have to go home first. So I went straight to the party. And partied. And drank. Australian Cabernet-Shiraz is damn good. Y'know what would have been funny? If after all, someone stole my sorry 1984 volvo station wagon cos the keys are in the ignition. They could've take a hammer to the windows. I was about to take a hammer to the back window; but my friends talked me out of it. Thank fuck it's impossible to break into with a slim jim. Oh, I say that now, now that I got back into in my house. It may not run; but it'll stay locked. Well, unless you take a hammer to the glass. I'm glad my friends are delinqeunts. I must send a shout-out to Miss Jenny Payne and her FAB sister for offering to help climb up the wall into the windows. I'm glad Dave knows how to pick locks cos drunk people and ladders sounds like painful danger to me. BILL VIOLA AND JANE & LOUISE WILSON: are the reason why I locked my keys in may car. They spoke at two lecture at the Virginia Museum. They were amazing. I still feel like a Warner Brothers cartoon character post-anvil with the birdies and butterflies circling my head. Plus Jane and Louise Wilson's Stasi City was installed and it was cool as shit. It's footage of the disused East German secret police jail-thing. The way it's shot and the way it's projected; it's like you're there almost. And Bill Viola showed some stuff I've never seen (some stuff that was in-fucking-credible) and there was a new piece of his the museum had just aquired that was in display. Yeah yeah art schmart. BUT... at the reception was this kid from the local coffee shop playing what was called experimental guitar. He was abusing his guitar and his mate was feeding that noise into his laptop and making pretty sounds from it. Aww yeah. HARD AS FUCK: Ok, wanna know what happens whan life gives me lemons? Here's my lemon story. Everyone's got a few herculean drinking stories and this is one of my best. This was when I was living with 3 other people in a big-ass house with 4 or 5 more people/boyfriends/girlfriends/friends staying over every night. Me, my roomate Maura and my friends Marshall and Holly were hanging out this one night. I had been to the health food store earlier and had brought home an organic lemon the size of a small grapefruit. Naw really. I brought it out for show and tell. Someone then went and got a *big-ass* bottle of tequila. Awww shit. We all sat down at the kitchen table with the lemon, the tequila and salt and did tequila shots until the bottle was empty. Tha whole thing. Daaaaaamm. Now that was a big-ass lemon. DUCK: Thanks for telling us about those ducks Liz Daplyn. Ducks are so cool. They're such intense little birds, booking around their area with very important things to do and letting out loud-ass QUACKS. FUTBOL: The World Cup is a sadistic mistress. Damn you World Cup Damn you to Hell! I have enough trouble sleeping already...and cos of the "whole world is all in different time zones" thing and the "rotation of the Earth" thing; the games are shown here in the middle of the night. Or the verrry early morning. Fuck It. That's nothing to whine about. I'm just a casual fan of a few sports. I like hockey and football (soccer). Baseball's ok if you're at an actual game, and it's fun to play cos you can hit things with a baseball bat. Teehee. Basketball at least moves along even if the scores are silly. Team A wins the game with 436 points over Team B with a total of 434 points! And at least you can watch grown men fly. American football makes no sense and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. It is funny to snicker at most of homophobic America engaging in blatant admiration of queerness of big gay men being gay. To quote Nelson, HAha. Yeah pass the astroglide; we've gotta fit this oddly shaped ball up there. Oops, sorry that was rude. We're not gonna even mention nascar or wrestling. Nope. Right. The world cup though. Football is addictive and I don't really have any way to see it on a regular basis. I saw the Womens World Cup a few years ago when it was in Richmond. I got a free ticket even. But that's a whole different game. So I get no football (i.e. soccer) and then you get the frickin mothership? Ok fine. I was in Scotland for the last one. I was rooting for France cos they were geographically closer wheras if I weren't in Scotland, Brazil would be closer. So then I'd root for Brazil. All my flatmates and all the other kids in the rest of the halls of residence and myself went down the hill to the pub and watched it at I think it at Molly Malone's which sounds a fuck of a lot cheesier than it is. And I'm glad the United States made it so far, but I'm glad thay lost to Germany. Long reasoning involving anti-americanisation of the world. Better explained not by me; it's too hot outside to be articulate. Warning: Don't read this next sentence if you've not seen the last games. Germany vs. Brazil is gonna be a good game. Yessss. Brazil are straight-up righteous and Germany are a intricate, powerful, goal scoring, foot action machine. RAHHHHK! aka FUCKIN' ANORAK! Do you ever get amazed by a record you've owned for a bit? One that you've liked enough to not sell but not enough to listen to so much? I've had Leftfield's Rhythm and Stealth for a while. I've listened to it on and off but never had it on heavy rotation. I put it on yesterday and it was like a whole new record. Like a whole new sound. It was the exact sound for my mood. It was like I had never heard it before. It's effing amazing! How did I not hear this before? WOW. Z-U-L-U Thass the way you spell zu-lu! Same thing with Sinead O'Connor's Faith and Courage. It's really good. Naw really. Granted, I am a longtime fan...since age 14...that's 14 years now. If she released an album of renditions of the phone book, I would buy it. But this record fell flat except for a few songs. So I wanted to hear those few songs...put them on LOUD...left the rest of the record to play...was AMAZED. Dancing around the house? Oh yes. I think it's the few weeks of no neighbors until someone moves in downstairs. I can listen to music L-O-U-D without bothering anyone. Much louder than if someone lived below. It doesn't travel down to the street cos the stereo is in my sealed-off-air-conditioned bedroom. It just travels through the floor. Damn you floor. Content: Wouldn't it be fab if in concert, the end bit of You Made Me Forget My Dreams was played? The hard house bit? Hey Matthew Henderson. I like both Phish and the Clash. Because they both don't suck. To me, they sound more similar than not. Granted, I listen to the Clash much more; my friends are the ones with the Phish albums. BOOTYLICIOUS And to call in on a subject from a bit ago; what's wrong with booty for the sake of booty? Just so none of your partner's ahem...fluid touches any of your ahem...fluid. Act like you know: it's called a condom. Or an ahem, dental dam. From experience; the best way to do this is with someone who'll you'll never see again. Ever. Or at least for a long while. More beating a topic to death. I'd like a boyfriend. But I can't be bothered to go looking for one. I'm the worlds worst serial flirter. And despite the previous paragraph; I'm really not a whore. I love flirting but I can't be bothered to play the girly game and act like a girl and I'm too shy to ask anyone out. So I'm still single. Fuck It. More kicking a dead pig/clown: I think if I weren't shy, I might be married now. I mean I'm a near socialite and I love to talk to people. I don't care if I don't know them either. Fuck all that. Meeting people is easy. Teehee. But when it comes to l-o-v-e, I shrink back into my turtle shell. Why do i do this? It drives me up the fuckin wall! Gaaaah! Well fuck. MELLLLLTING Hey Jay Eckard. Well, speaking of the heat, in the exact middle of Virginia here, it's hot as fuck. I'm hiding in my air conditioned bedroom now. The rest of the house requires the same silver suits they use in foundrys so as to resist catching fire. Outside is unacceptably hot. You walk out the front door and it's like you just stuck your head in the oven...while it's set to broil. We're not gonna mention the humidity either. ROCK! The other day, the health food store, which usually plays some kind of lite-new age-faux jazz crap; was playing the Rolling Stones and the Supremes. Plus Brickhouse and a nice variety like that. Do grocery stores pick their music for the time they think a certain shopper demographic will be there? I heard Siouxsie and the Banshees in the drugstore and I heard The Smiths in the normal big-ass grocery store. The weirdest grocery store experience was when I was out in the country near my dad's. Huuuuge grocery store in a hick-town in the middle of the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia. And Jefferson Airplane's White Rabbit is playing very loudly over the wide aisles. I swear they turned it up. It was trippy maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. Riiiiiight. Rock on, Vilkas and the Vil-cassettes P.S. Yo, Glasgow Picnic goers; I want a full reporting back, complete with why the police were speaking with you. P.P.S. If you see a tiny sticker-photo of a siamese cat stuck up anywhere, please e-mail me at loueverywhere at yahoo.com. And if you'd like to distribute tiny sticker-photos of a siamese cat, please e-mail me and I will send you a few. Thing is, you'd have to tell me where you stuck them. Long story, I'll explain later. P.P.P.S Thomas Henderson, Gordon, and anyone else needing more profanity, this is for you, and I mean it in the friendliest way: Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boywiththearabstrap at xxx.com Fri Jun 28 11:11:35 2002 From: boywiththearabstrap at xxx.com (~ boywiththearabstrap) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:11:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Stars of Crackin' Deals Message-ID: G'mornin'/evening, or whatever, First of all, hi to everyone we met at the gig last night,except for the guy in the green suit(you know who you are!).A PRIZE ARSEHOLE. I am being truly sincere when I say that that was one of the best performances I have seen from the band. The subject of conversation in the bar beforehand was to whether or not the loss of Isobelle C. would greatly affect the content of the show. Not so! They played a great set, coupled with a relatively sober audience (unusual for "hometown" gigs).(Musical)Highlight?-The extended version of "Scooby Driver". Spectacular. Personal highlight?-Bumping into an ex-girlfriend who I had not seen in absolutely ages.She was lookin' good, but alas, twas not to be. But T, if you are reading this, it was good to see you. I am still auditioning for your replacement. Fingers crossed, the BEEB will show something from the Glastonbury gig on the telly, but dont hold your breath. So, to the band. Thanks for a great night out(again!), and heres to many more. One last thing, if the girl who was asking us about the 13th Note gig gets in touch, we've got what you want. Have a great weekend, worldwide. sjm _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Fri Jun 28 11:46:25 2002 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:46:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Telly Message-ID: <00b401c21e91$0dfef8a0$7104fd3e@neil> Our heroes Stuart and Richard will be guests on BBC Liquid News tonight on BBC Choice at 8PM. If anyone's got BBC Choice: Gonnae video it for us? Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Fri Jun 28 12:40:04 2002 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:40:04 -0400 Subject: Sinister: McDonald's! McDonald's! a Pizza Hut! a Pizza Hut! In-Reply-To: <002c01c21dc3$2b91d140$7869243e@pjmillerwanadoo> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20020628073532.023d2440@pop.orpheusdesign.com> At 6/27/2002 12:12 PM +0200, Peter Miller wrote: >The Pinefox asked about McDonald's characters. I only know the core duo of >Ronald McDonald and Hamburglar by name. I mean, what would the others be >called - Humphrey Milkshake? But I reckon I could recognise any of them in >an identity parade. My favourite McDonald's character is Harassed Manager >Mucking In, followed by New Recruit Being Bollocked. Mayor McCheese ranks high among McDonaldland elite. There's also Grimace, the eggplant-shaped predecessor to Barney. I'm sure there's more - I can't remember the name of that bird. Friends, one and all. Take them to heart. See them in your dreams. + senor droolcup PS: are there any female McDonaldland characters? maybe that bird. makes you wonder about a same-sex world of misshapen colorful, fuzzy beings. i think i need a drink - but it's only 7:40am. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From therapy.services at xxx.org Fri Jun 28 12:56:23 2002 From: therapy.services at xxx.org (therapy.services at xxx.org) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:56:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: McDonald's! McDonald's! a Pizza Hut! a Pizza Hut! Message-ID: Some rather more inventive McDonald's characters: http://www.theonion.com/onion3808/hammurderer.html xx Miss Marianna Longmire P.S. Apologies for the short post. Slap on the wrists. But if I'm caught sending random e-mails at work AND forcing my colleagues to listen to Baxendale, I might just get fired. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Fri Jun 28 13:44:27 2002 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:44:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Don't tell me to fucking shut up! Message-ID: <20020628124427.25437.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> I think the Glasgow branch of Sinister is streaking ahead in the ROCK stakes. First, our picnic gets broken up by the Police because a bottle of beer and two cans of G&T were being consumed in a public place (horrors!) and then last night, Carey Lander and I nearly got chucked out of the Belle & Sebastian gig! How badass are we? So, you ask, what was our crime? Well, actually handing out flyers. Ahem. A big, burly security guard took us into the foyer where we had to stand and wait for a manager type chap. It was like waiting outside the headmistress’s office at school, except various band members were standing quite close by, which made it all the more embarrassing. The manager bloke turned out to be quite nice and read our flyer with interest. I think he understood from our lo-fi little hand-out (no pictures, only writing, photocopied onto plain white paper and unevenly cut to A6 on a wonky guillotine) that we didn’t pose a ginormous threat to the QMU’s, er, domination of Glasgow nitelife. So they were temporarily confiscated and we were allowed to give them out after the gig, outside the doors. Nice man. Last time I saw Belle & Sebastian, Mark C and I pissed our pants laughing every time Isobel opened her mouth. Last night, there was no such silliness. Sarah was FINE and even clanked her cowbell with gusto during the Wrong Girl. Cowbell clanking has always struck me as one of the less interesting things one can do on stage, but she did a marvellous job. Her singing was also good and loud, in tune (with the odd crack at the top, which I put down to nerves) and her enunciation perfect. I, certainly, did not miss the musical contribution of the hamster-voiced one, only the laughs we used to have. Sigh. Stevie did an impromptu cover of Wichita Lineman, which was quite good, but I’d LOVE to hear him have another go after proper rehearsal. He also conceded that Wandering Alone sounds like the Mavericks, but didn’t seem at all concerned about this. They did all the songs with the best trumpet parts and Mick shone. I think he played a cornet at one point too, although my knowledge of brass instruments ain’t that hot. Chris has taken to wearing some flash, trendy specs. I didn’t catch sight of Richard all night because my view was blocked by no, not Big Stu the speaker stacks. Struan threatened to take of his shirt at one point, then affected modesty. WELL! Anyone who’s seen him play football knows he’ll get his kit off at the drop of a hat and would probably run around in skimpy Speedos given half a chance. Maybe he was conscious of the awful effects a combination of his toned torso and strobe lighting effects would have on Genevieve. I saw the poor girl after the gig and she was in fits of hysteria as it was. Can you imagine the consequences had Actual Nudity been involved?! What else can I say? Struan and Stevie kept telling people to FUCKING SHUT UP because they were talking all over the quiet bits and apparently they're going to tell Glastonbury to FUCKING SHUT UP as well. Quite right too, I say. Belfast Bob looked kinda cute as usual and it was noted that Stevie bore some resemblance to that Richard bloke who lives in Mell Street. I think it was the glasses. They had a new cellist too, Rosie (?) but she was behind the speakers as well. And Monica Queen was a bit squawky this time. I can’t remember the set list, but David Moore has a copy (surprise surprise) so I’m sure he’ll post it to you as soon as he gets to a pooter. Ailsa nearly had a fight with a girl in the bogs over another set list. Tsk. People present were: Me, Ally C, Carey, Genevieve, Keith, David Moore, Michael and his two mates who’re always at Pop League, Gordon, Caity Pig, Sarah, Gav, John Pop League, Ailsa, Sarah Wheeler (I think), another girl with blonde hair who Ally hugged, so she must be an ancient sinisterine, Paul Oh, and probably plenty more who I’ve forgotten (but it doesn’t mean I don’t love you any less, right?) Missing and much missed were Honey and Linda (!!!) as well as Sweetie and Richard who went to some gig that DIDN’T MATTER HALF AS MUCH at King Tut’s. In other list news, Jonathan Skinner said: “Isobel left *gasp* how unexpected considering the foul form she was on. I think though this may be a good thing for the band- i don't know why. It must be highly insulting for them if they do infact read this list to see how people are weeping and whaling” Now, I know Isobel’s behind is on the large side, but that doesn’t mean she deserves to be harpooned. I mean, Moby Dick she ain’t. This has taken me loads longer than 15 minutes. Cliff, can you handle it? Juicy Lucy x ps. Did anyone else switch on the radio this morning, hear about John Entwhistle and think about Peter Miller? ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Fri Jun 28 13:59:39 2002 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:59:39 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: London picnic, 13th July 2002 Message-ID: <20020628125940.61069.qmail@web10402.mail.yahoo.com> Does Vilkas rock or what? When she said she was shy I almost wet myself with shock. Yeah, right, honey... Announcement for London listees - Saturday 13th July sees a PRIMROSE HILL PICNIC, from 2pm, same place as usual, top of the hill in Primrose Hill (or, more accurately, within 20 or so yards of the top of the hill, or feasibly under the trees if the weather's inclement. It'd be really good to have a substantial sinister presence, so do come if you can. This day's activities will also hopefully involve a VERY IMPORTANT footie rematch against a bunch of ne'er-do-wells and rogues, so bring your pompoms and cheer along Brave Sinister in our ongoing struggle against evil... Following the picnic (and inevitable post-picnic pubnic), I shall be encouraging everyone to accompany me to STRANGE FRUIT (www.strange-fruit.co.uk), which is a really pretty excellent club night that I'll be DJing at. I'll be spinning choons at 11pm, so anyone who's up for it, come along. You'll be able to get in for a specially-negotiated £3, too! Email me if you want further info on any of the above. Newcomers are PARTICULARLY invited along, cos it's always good to replenish the Sinister fold every now and again :) So see you then, or maybe in Galsgow/Edinburgh on the weeked of the 5th July. I hear a picnic may be happening there too? Can anyone confirm that? Toodle pip, Mark xxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From polishmule at xxx.com Fri Jun 28 15:46:37 2002 From: polishmule at xxx.com (Richard Pattison) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:46:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Dream one, you had a whole lot of fun with a comedian Message-ID: On the train back to Glasgow last night I was sat a few seats away from some real life comedians. They had a flyer for some comedy club. They laughed smugly at how often Des McNeil appeared ("he�s such a whore" apparently). They then started to talk about their sets. One of them was really happy with his and for the first time in ages he was enjoying doing his routine. The other one mentioned "cocks and robbers" causing comedian no.1 to burst out in fits of uncontrollable laughter. I didn�t think it was that funny but I did think "Hey, why not plagiarise?". After all they get paid to be funny so they must be, right? They didn�t mention any other jokes apart from some band called the throbsongs which wasn�t even worth copying. I then made a note to myself not to mention the fact that the joke wasn�t my own. The note must have been ignored �cos the next day I posted to sinister telling the whole story. When the comedians got off the train I thought about following them, listening in and copying their jokes all so I could appear witty but then I decided not to be a stalker. I then thought about how "cocks and robbers" would be even funnier if it were "cocks and rubbers". I made that up myself, honest. Unfortunately I missed B&S playing that very night. The gig sounded quite good particularly the playing of scooby driver. Can anyone remember when they played that rectorial campaign gig at glasgow uni? I think stuart introduced one of the songs as being off storytelling? I�ve been trying to remember which one it was. More bad luck meant that the reason I missed B&S didn�t happen anyway. Fortunately, I still had a good night and I didn�t get run over once despite two near misses. Richard _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Fri Jun 28 17:51:51 2002 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:51:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: But that nice Mr Robertson can say "Fuck you!" to me anytime Message-ID: <000301c21ec4$1d8d0680$558501d5@oemcomputer> Hi All, Did I hear some gorgeous gal ask for a setlist? QMU, Glasgow 27.06.02 Fuck This Shit Sleep The Clock Around Woman’s Realm Waking Up To Us Jonathan David Stars Of Track And Field Dog On Wheels Wandering Alone Don’t Leave The Light On Seeing Other People Wichita Lineman Simple Things The Boy With The Arab Strap Slow Graffiti Lazy Line Painter Jane The State I Am In Scooby Driver The Wrong Girl I Don’t Love Anyone Dirty Dream #2 String Bean Jean Legal Man Poor Richard John Gillanders disappears to the Czech Republic for a while & Lucy forgets all about him to the extent of omitting him from her roll-call! Someone else present who I guess Lucy didn't see was Rachel Sunnyset. And the appropriately named Num Num from that other lot over there, who aren't all bad, you know. Nice for me to see Neil, Katrina and Gemma again and to finally meet Katrina's other half. (And she means it) This is probably echoing other people's comments, but here goes anyway. I was concerned to see what a B&S gig without Isobel would be like but as soon as I had heard Sarah singing the bits on Sleep The Clock Around & Woman's Realm & Rosie covering the cello parts I knew that all would be fine. In fact everyone on stage seemed to be very relaxed, having a lot of fun & conducting a discussion on semantics. I hope it augurs well for knocking the 10's of 1,000's at Glasto dead on Saturday. I am sure they will go down a storm, even when the audience doubles at about "Jonathan David" when everyone mooches over from having tasted Chef's Chocolate Salty Balls. For me the gig was one of the best I have seen them play, ranking with The Bowlie & the Saturday at The Barras: maybe because of the songs chosen being pretty much out and out crowd pleasers, maybe er, I don't know why. They faced a pretty boisterous audience, who even made Struan lose his temper during the intro to Slow Graffiti. I wonder who auditions the lady string players? Just Stuart, or a committee of all the lads? They all seem pretty foxy in any case. The additional musicians contributed more than I recall them having done before: played percussion, keyboards & recorder & supplied backing vocals. I think one of the crew played organ & electric piano on a couple of songs. Lucy mentioned The State Pookie Was In after the gig: you should have been standing next to her when Stuart started unbuttoning & she thought he was going to take his top off! I wish I had a tape of all that nervous mmmmmmm-ing & giggling :) Stuart is tough on the rest of the band: as soon as they get set up for Dirty Dream #2 he slots in I Don't Love Anyone* & they have to run around all over the stage & change instruments. The setlist indicated that song & String Bean Jean (Yes!) as "maybes": I wonder what dictates whether they appear or not? Time, or how the feeling & passion is running at the time? Whatever, it was the two optional songs that gave me two of my three massive all over sustained goosebump attacks, with every strand of hair on my body erect - the third was when opener Eugene Kelly broke into my consciousness (I had been a bad boy talking at the bar before & then wasn't gripped by his "smash Starbucks " song) with a beautiful & painful rendition of Jesus Doesn't Want Me For A Sunbeam that sparked off a long reflection on self-esteem, feeling unloved, Kurt & that whole slice of rock history. (* Too rarely played - only about the second time in the last 3 and a quarter years (??) ) Stevie Reverb gets an award for bravery for tackling The Peacock's Big Man's Wichita Lineman completely unrehearsed**, & then maybe another gong for shutting up the heckler who had been bellowing for it all through the gig. **Although apparently this is something any musician should be able to do :) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ RIP The Ox ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ (Probably even more upsetting for Keith than Peter) What a tribute if B&S could get a version of My Wife together before Saturday night? Thanks to Carey for being kind as well as lovely & for putting up with me again. Love to all Belle And Sebastian fans, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Fri Jun 28 19:35:25 2002 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:35:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: He taught me about having "the fucking horn": 101 Reasons To Love Neil Robertson Message-ID: 101 Reasons Why I Love Neil Robertson 1. He was the first person I ever heard kick about the phrase of having "the fucking horn." He was using it in reference to a song and so I mistakenly thought it might me to have a headache. (It made sense to me!) Thankfully, I asked for clarification or else I could see poor American me bumbling that British slang quite horrifically. It reminded me of the first time I heard the term "knackered." Since I wasn't familiar with it, I thought the boy was asking me if I was NAKED. For a second I thought foreign boys really were a lot more fun than their American counterparts. I should have known better. 2. For his birthday, he *gave away* a copy of Storytelling on vinyl. So kind. 3. He regularly showers people with flurries of "fuck you." Again, so kind. Of course, Neily boy, but you'll have to buy me dinner first*. 4. He told others I gave him porn for his birthday. 5. He'll forgive me that I didn't really give him porn for his birthday 6. He'll forgive me that I'm not going to finish this list in fear of getting a cramp in my pink if I really do list all the reasons to love him. This might be the shortest Sinister post I've ever sent but my thoughts aren't congealing enough to be able to write anything coherent. I'm currently in the land of Milk & Cookies (Utah) and shall be heading to either Aspen Colorado or Wyoming ("Q: Can you explain why Wyoming advertises that it is "Like No Place on Earth"? A: Because the rest of Earth wanted to make it clear Wyoming was an anomaly.") for hiking/camping/introducing my skin to the outdoors again and hoping it doesn't scream in resistance. We were going to head down south to Arizona but I vaguely remember the July Fourth week of 99. I posted to Sinister about it and said something to the effect of: Arizona is lovely this time of year - especially if you're planning a trip to the core of the sun and want to acclimate yourself to the heat first. I think I'll head north this time. Thanks to Breamsy Boy (Why has no one ever mentioned that he looks exactly like Stevie Jackson? Hello - eerie resemblance!) - I now have copies of Storytelling on CD and Vinyl. Fuck This Shit, Big John Shafts... Maybe foreign boys are more fun - Laura *a warped version of my favorite line from Ghost World _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Fri Jun 28 23:46:36 2002 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Caitlin Pigtails) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:46:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 6pm Morningside Message-ID: <20020628234636.A15886@candle.btinternet.com> Walking home from work through leafy Morningside, I saw a bag of bread in a gutter. Baguettes. They were spilling out into the gutter, and a yellow leaf the same colour had slipped itself inside the bag. When I was little, I always felt terribly guilty for wasting food. I would cringe if I saw my mother scraping my left-overs onto the bird table. Last night -- gig! Woo! I skived off work early and dashed down to the railway station so that I could get to Glasgow and the QMU. I wasn't as desperate as Rachel (who started queueing to get into the gig nearly an hour before the doors opened), but I didn't want to be rushing in at the last minute. When I got inside - after hanging around outside for a bit with Mr Gillanders whilst he tried to get himself on the guest list - Carey and Lucy were handing out flyers for some club night or other. Flyers filled with tiny, tiny print. Everyone, going into the gig-room, had a flyer thrust at them. Nobody, in the dim light, could actually read it. The room was filled with puzzled indie-boys and indie-girls holding flyers in front of their faces and squinting. Eventually, the Big Nasty Security Man came and took the flyers off the girls for fear that all these people wandering around the union squinting wouldn't look where they were going, would all bump into each other and the room would be filled with blood and pain and nightmarish images as seen in Luis Bunuel movies. I think that was what they said, anyway. Incidentally, a few people have said that the last time I Reported Back I didn't give enough details away. The simple reason for that is that I couldn't remember any, because I was very, very drunk. Sat in the pub, topping my glass of vodka up under the table, I accidentally managed to drink rather a lot without really realising. It really didn't have a very good effect on my memory. I do remember almost leaving my bag behind, and giving Jeremy a big hug. But not very much else. Miss Vilkas (who was one of the people who wanted to know more about the last picnic) said that four years ago she lived in Scotland. It reminded me of the many, many hours I used to spend in the university library (in Scotland, natch), and how I would always see the same people there day after day but be too shy to ever talk to anyone. There was one girl who looked like her name should be Vilkas or something equally exotic: she had bright blonde bowl-cut hair, and looked strangely Scandinavian. Of course, nobody was allowed to talk. It was a library. So, yes, the gig. It was rather good - well, it *was* B&S. Better than the Usher Hall gig, at least. I don't think it matched their previous QMU gig, though, which was a bit mad. They played lots of songs that they don't seem to play very often, like I Don't Love Anyone. They played Stars of Track and Field, too, and I don't think I've heard them do that one live before. We thought it seemed a bit of a shame that nobody was dancing, even right in the middle. Over at the sides, Ailsa was dancing and I was bouncing around a bit, but in the middle of the crowd everyone seemed to be stuck stock-still. Shame. Name-dropping paragraph: big hugs to everyone I saw who was there, which includes Danny and his friends, Sweetie and Richard (who buggered off somewhere else), Gordon, Michael, Lucy, Ally, Gav, Sarah, Carey, Richard, Ailsa, Genevieve, Rachel, and David Moore. Hello to everyone who wasn't there too, such as the other lucy, and, um, almost the entire population of the planet. Even now, i still feel guilty if I don't eat all of my dinner, or if I see a bag of baguettes lying wasted on the pavement. xx caitlin -- http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs "When life gives us lemons, we just sit there and sulk about it, in the corner of the room, in a fetal position." - Matthew Henderson, on the Sinister mailing list. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sat Jun 29 01:11:46 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Fuck My Shitty Pussy Message-ID: <20020629001146.24686.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> hello Sinister, ******CURSING****** realising that swearing is the new saying goodbye to breams (which was the new "I heart Ken Chu", which was the new posting, which was the new lurking which is just so passe now its almost retro chic )I thought I'd join in before the Daily Mirror caught on to the latest summer trend and made it untrendy, what with all the plebs doing it too. The subject line, IF it gets through firewalls of those of you at work (heh heh- I can't wait for you to explain this to your line managers... "no.. "fuck my shitty pussy".. its from this mailing list I'm on, see......I can explain... ") was one of the first things I learnt to say when I went to Norway. I learnt to say various other things before hand, but this wasd the most amusing and possibly widely applicable sentence. Alternatively, I could have given this post some "slight" content, and written something along the lines of "fuck this shit(ty pussy)". But I didn't. Bandwagons and all that, are fine. I jump on them when I need to hitchhike a wee bit, but not for the entire journey. Anyway. *** YOU ALL LOVE NEIL ROBERTSON NOW *** all he had to do was talk dirty, and you're over excited. Forget the band. Its Neil you secretly follow. I'd make examples of you all, but I can't be bothered. Was it because he made it cool to say naughty words? Hes such a bad boy, isn't he. Worthers Originial rebel. I can imagine him now. Actually, I've never actually met him, but I have this mental image in my mind that he looks like Woody out of Toy Story. Only in a black leather biker jacket. "Theres a snake in my boot!" indeed. :-) ***ATISHOO, ATISHOO, WE ALL FALL DOWN**** My hayfever is driving me up the wall. I've taken so many tablets over the years for it, nothing works anymore. I've tried Pirotin, Zirtek, Benadryl, Clarityn, Boots own brand and anything else that sounds vaguely like a vulcan character name from Star Trek. It doesn't work anymore. The drowsy ones, the non drowsy, the 24 hour ones, the couple of hour ones... all useless. So I've devised a new plan. I take two. Two 24 hour tablets, at the same time, of different brands, three or four times a day. It leaves me feeling lathargic to the extent of falling over, mind you, but short of shoving them up my nose and into my tear ducts to stop this hayfever, its the only thing to offer me any relief. I sleep a lot at the moment, I go to work, I come home, I sleep til the morning from usually about 10pm. And then I have to drag myself out of bed. The other side effect is I can't concerntrate at work and I get tired, which is why I drop a couple of caffeine tablets to get me through. And I sleep a lot too. I suffer pretty badly from hayfever. Some people get away with the occasional sneeze. But my entire life, for 4 weeks, is a nightmare. from the point when i get up in the morning (the soap I use makes me sneeze, stopping sneezing enough to have my breakfast, holding my head at certain angles to avoid a runny nose, taking the train in the morning which goes through the nice fucking LEAFY bits.. fuck you other passengers with your open windows. I notice, and I feel like death), to leaving work (why can't they just tarmac over princes street gardens and anything vaguely green? ok, so nowhere to have picnics, but we'd soon get used to astro turf) to everything. I can't take a walk in a park. I come home and spend the next few hours with sore eyes. I can't just talk- I end up sneezing mid conversation and its frustrating so I don't talk. I feel so hellishly grumpy too. And really, I'm so moody. If you see me, cross the road and avoid me for the next week or so. Its the best thing. People have this thing, where they go "oh, I've just sneezed. I must be getting hayfever" like its a cold, that comes and goes. I've taken to ignoring them. They antagonise me so easily. People have this other thing, where they see me suffering, and they go "oh, I take one pirotin (or other well known brand of allergy tablet) and I'm fine". Its different for different people. I don't care. I suffer badly. I wake up in middle of the night, sneezing and itching and I need to take tablets. A good night is where I wake up once. Some people go "but it was raining yesterday". Pollen count means fuck all to my body. Some pollen stays airborne regardless of temprature. "you should get a nasal spray" "have you tried...(insert well nown brand name of allergy tablet here)?" Durr. Like, eh, no. Of course not, you dildo! I've just been fucking suffering for the hell of it. It wasn't til you pointed it out, and I saw the light of my error of my medicinal ways. I hate it when people offer: a. diagnosis; b. advice like "take a tablet/ use an eye wash/ try nasal sprays" that quite frankly, is like saying to a blind person "Have you considered getting a guide dog?". c. Who think they know how I feel becuase they have a sniffle, although it might be a cold. d. Who make fun of my variety of sneezing sounds I'm not trying to be "I suffer worse than anyone ever" about this, but after ten years of one month a year hell, and you know, it drives me insane. A good year is when I don't get conjunctivitis, and wake up with my eyelashes glued together, and have to fumble about until I find the bathroom and can bathe my eyes. hayfever makes my skin itch, especially over the bridge of my nose with my sinuses. It makes my ears itch, and my throat itch. It makes me grumpy, and moody and depressed. I sneeze so much I don't bother talking much if I can help it, my nose runs so badly I try and keep my head at a normal angle and not bend over too often. Making rumaging around in my handbag a nightmare. Nasal sprays make me sneeze and are only good if i have a blocked nose- and then it becomes a runny nose. I keep my bedroom window firmly shut every night for four weeks. And i notice when a window is open, without even seeing it. In the past I've tried meditating myself to sleep after taking tablets which works partially. I just have to induce a sleepy state, relaxing my muscles and stop sneezing/ itching long enough to fall asleep. I've used eye pads, bathe twice daily on the worst days, and I never go outside if I can avoid it. So you know, people irritate me too, with their pop knowledge medical wisdom. Best not to say anything. I have two options left: 1. I go to a private clinic and pay to get a vaccine for my hayfever. (it is possible, apparently what it is is this. Plant pollen basically sees your nose tissue as the sort of tissue it wants to pollenate. What with your nostrils being all warm, wet and sexy. In some people, the body is cool with this. In other people like me, its not. And the immune system gets over excited and sees it as an attack. "No bloody flower is gonna have pollenate with my body!" type thing. So it sees the pollen as a threat, and releases histimine. What the vaccine does is to identify the allergy, and then, since the immune system of a sufferer sees the pollen as a threat, the vaccine works like a vaccine for any illness or virus or threat. Hey. If you can't beat it, go with it). 2. I go on holiday for 4 weeks a year to Alaska during hayfever season. Ugh. Sympathy to fellow hayfever sufferers. Well, thats my major rant over and done with. Please listen and learn. I'm thinking ahead to next week, and the talk of the picnic in glasgow, and whether thats a good idea. No parks. Lets meet up in a concrete block. please. ***Bangbang*** Earlier this evening, I was sitting in the living room being ignored by Mick. Sometimes he sits on my lap, while I massage his head, other times he ignores me. Tonight I wasn't good enough for him. Mick is the neighbours elderly cat, by the way. Then we heard a gunshot. no idea where from or anything, but it was something of an event in the leafy commuter town middle class area that I live in, and will no doubt be the subject of many a neighbourly gossip for weeks to come, regardless of whether anything further develops from it. And even if anything doesn't imaginations are wonderful creations for filling in gaps and creating drama and exagerration, to make a story more interesting, and hoepfully make the story teller more interesting. ****EVERYONE HAS A NOVEL INSIDE THEM**** I don't know if the above is true, but thought I'd write it anyway. Sinister is one of those mailing lists, I am aware, whose listees are generally creative. Its an odd place really, with more of a quota of creative minds than elsewhere, an unnatural surge of imaginative minds all gathering in sinister. Some of us are musicial, others are painters and illustrators. Some write, others sing, others make things. Well, this is for the writers among you. You with your film scripts, with your stories, and poems and even your posts. I bought a book the other week which has had me enthralled. Its a magical book, which seems to feed my enthusiasm to write and my imagination to develop. Irs called "The Creative Writing Coursebook" from my old uni, University of East Anglia, and is filled with advice and excercises for writers to try to use, ideas to help you develop and build and create, and perhaps even just use when you want to start writing something but have a writers block or no ideas. Its published by Macmillan, and I've found it a fantastic read and inspiring. So i thought I'd let you know, if any of you might be looking for such a book. right, I'm off to perform strange practises upon my body and try and sleep. Love, idleberry ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sat Jun 29 01:20:59 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: absence note and pee ess Message-ID: <20020629002059.79856.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> you may have not noticed I was not at the QMU gig last night. This was becuase I was at home having a wank. Also, I don't care. Also. cos I got paid yesterday and I got paid too much and tax free. so neer. Also. cos I'm not jealous in the slightest. It was a darn good wank. Not that you noticed I wasn't there. :-( pff. ******* ALSO, i think i'm arranging next weeks pubnic meet up orgy thing, Mark Casarolle. No idea how or where. If its in Edinburgh, then theres lots of things we can do and places to go. If its glasgow, I don't know much about glasgow really, but will take orders from anyone. My number is *sing it along to Wandering Alone to help you remember like a wee jingle* 07812 168 596 i-B ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Not the ones with no plantlife in their front garden (I think I�ve mentioned this before, they stripped it completely bare two summers ago and have left it like that since. I blame the dad of the family, who can sometimes be seen standing just outside his front gate watching the sky turn from grey to orange, as if thinking �Neither flora nor fauna shall pass my steely gaze � nature was mine to conquer, and conquered her I have!�), but the other ones, the ones that don�t have a back garden, just a back yard. I�ve been bowling, but I didn�t win. We played with the bumpers up, so you aren�t supposed to be able to get the ball into there, but I managed that a couple of times anyway. However, I�m not here to talk about mindless pedestrian dross like bowling or gardening, oh no. Instead I am both proud and excited to present: A BEGINNER�S GUIDE TO DUCK DUCK GOOSE version 1.0 INTRODUCTION Although association football may have surpassed duck duck goose as our nation�s favourite pastime, this most noble of sports still has a place in the hearts and minds of young and old and is still practiced regularly in parks, playgrounds, gymnasiums and clubhouses across the land. Regarding why the sport seems to have fallen out of favour with the mainstream media is a question to wide and contentious to address properly here, but suffice to say that there are far more people playing duck duck goose than you are likely to hear about on the six o�clock news. But I�m getting ahead of myself since this guide should serve newcomers to the sport as well as seasoned professionals, and so I shall begin by giving an overview on the game, and talk a little about its history and the benefits of playing. Duck duck goose was founded in 1721 in the little village of Truro in Cornwall, which lies on the south coast of England. Credit for the invention of the game is a much-debated subject, with most people being of the belief that it was first played under the guidance of J. William Blaverstock on Truro village green, and the event is recorded in his diary entry for the 7th July 1721: ��when I chanced upon an idea for a new gamme, which we sette about playing on the greene for severel hours. I call the gamme �duck duck duck goose� and much frivolity ensused when the gamme was struck up�� The extra �duck� in the sport�s name was eventually dropped in 1863 at the behest of Mallard Cookson, chairman of the Professional Association of Duck Duck Duck Goose Players of England at the time, of course this change lead to a change in the name of the association as well, and the game has remained unchanged ever since. That Blaverstock was at the first game of duck duck goose is not questioned, but doubts have been cast over whether he did, in fact, invent the game, and various other accounts point to Rev. Patrick Monahan as the creator. Those interested in pursuing this debate will be pleased to know that a lengthy article can be found on our website http://www.duckduckgooseassociation.org/media/blaverstock.html Duck duck goose is a game like no other on Earth. It requires skill, strategy, fitness, poise and sportsmanship in healthy doses to be successful, and yet even the most unskilled can, and indeed are encouraged to participate. It is an easy game to learn, and can be played at all levels, but to master it takes years of dedication � just ask Pierre Dutronc, current world champion: �I started playing when I was just six years old, but something about the game made me keep coming back � and when I learned of the professional leagues, nothing could hold me back. I played every day, kept on training and after many years I became champion. It was the best day of my life, and I hope I can repeat it next year.� HOW TO PLAY Duck duck goose is one of the most versatile sports on the planet, since it does not require a specific number of people, nor a specific playing area, neither does it require special equipment or clothing, but specialist duck duck goose shoes, hats and protective guards are available from most good sports shops, or via our website. However, there are a few guidelines you should follow to ensure a successful game. Firstly, having the right amount of players is essential � debates have raged on for years over the optimum number for a game, and current tournaments generally play with 23 players, but we suggest playing with somewhere between 10 and 40 participants. Less than ten and the game becomes repetitive and tiring, more than forty and it becomes unwieldy and people get left out. Anyone, young or old can play, and mixed games are also not unknown, so the makeup of your group is entirely up to you. Once you have your group together, then finding the right surface to play on is also imperative � duck duck goose clubs will often have their own specially constructed pitches, but accessing these is not always practical and so we suggest an even surface that isn�t too slippery, but which is also large enough to comfortably accommodate your game � I�ve heard too many stories of serious accidents and even deaths resulting from playing in overly tight areas, so be careful and choose wisely. Once you have your group together, and have found a surface then you�re ready to start playing! Arrange yourselves into a rough circle and sit down � try to intersperse more athletic or experienced players evenly around the circle to that the talent is fairly distributed, nothing is more disheartening than rivalries resulting from an unbalanced circle. When this is done a starting player must be chosen � often someone will volunteer, but if there is more than one volunteer, or none at all then a player must be chosen at random. We suggest picking numbers, dice or drawing straws, though association accredited duck duck goose official spinners are available from our website. The chosen player then stands up and the circle tightens to fill up the space they have vacated. He or she then commences a circumnavigation of the playing area (tournament play is anti-clockwise, but for non official games, then either direction is fine. But bear in mind that once a game starts the direction of flow CANNOT be changed � committing this offence whether by accident or intentionally results in immediate disqualification from the game). The player touches the head of each member of the circle as they pass, saying either �duck� or �goose�. If �duck� is chosen then the player carries on around the circle until they choose someone as the goose. When �goose� is said, the player immediately starts running around the circle, in an attempt to complete one full circuit, at which point they sit down in the place of the goose, whose task it is to rise from their place in the circle and chase the player. If the player is caught in this chase then they must continue being the player, and the game starts again. However, if the player completes the circuit and successfully takes the goose�s place in the circle, then the goose adopts the role of the player and the game restarts like that, and continues thusly. The amount of time that a game should take is another contentious issue, and current championship games consist of two halves of twenty minutes each, the makeup of the circle is changed completely for the second half. More casual games can be ended whenever the players wish, and do not necessarily have to stop if one or more players wishes to retire. As I type this the Grimsby duck duck goose club are attempting to get into the record books by playing the longest continuous game of duck duck goose ever � at the moment they�ve been playing for a year and ten minutes, but they still have a long way to go to be the Reykjavik club�s long standing current record of four years, seven months, one week, two days, eight hours, twenty three minutes and sixteen seconds. The beauty of duck duck goose is that there are no winners or losers, and everyone gets something from the game, whether it�s the glory of having the most catches or successful runs, or just the unsurpassed sense of community and brotherhood that playing can bring. I�ve heard tell of dozens of marriages that have started with a simple game of duck duck goose, long lost siblings who have met at clubs and whole hosts of friends brought together at clubs and games for the benefit of all. The power of the game was celebrated by Japanese poet Basho Matsuo in haiku form, the original copy of which is now framed and hung in the great hall at the Duck duck goose association building in London: Balance looks eastward The children play duck duck goose Tea swirls in its cup STRATEGY Although duck duck goose can naively be seen as a purely physical game, a newcomer to the sport will often be daunted by the complex strategies employed by experienced players to outwit his or her opponents. This short, and by no means comprehensive strategy guide is intended to help beginners with their game, though it is advised that you play a few games before reading to get a feel for the game, so that these strategies do not cloud your playing. 1. The Speedy Goose When your turn comes around, most people will settle back as you start your circumnavigation thinking you�ll do at least one full circuit to size up each player. However, if you�re confident enough, calling �goose� very early on in your round, even on the first person you come to can be an excellent surprise tactic which should give you a good headstart for your run. 2. The Sleeping Goose The opposite of the above tactic, while most championship games impose a three-minute time limit on each player�s round, for more casual games you can spend even longer going around the circle, until everyone is quite bored with you and has become quite lethargic, then you strike! It will take your goose some seconds to recover from their drowsiness, by which time you should already be halfway back round. Time limits were introduced to the game in 1931, when Russian player Sergi Yevkenov spent a little over eight hours going round the circle, his chosen goose had fallen asleep by this time, and did not even get up or give chase � an offence which saw him being disqualified from the game, and Yevkenov becoming Russia�s only World Champion to date. Another advantage of this tactic is that it allows you time to recover energy after running. 3. The Double Goose Return When you�re the player, if you have previously given chase and failed, or been caught by faster sprinters, but think you have better stamina it is often a good tactic to pick the person who chose you as goose, or who caught you previously again a second time. They will be as tired as you are after the run, putting you on a relatively level setting and you stand a better chance of evading them. Repeatedly picking the same player even if you keep getting caught is not very sporting, although it can be an amusing tactic, and often will force the goose into submission, though don�t be surprised if someone beaten by this tactic then starts employing it on you when they�re the player. A tactic to be employed sparingly since it works only at the exclusion of the rest of the group. 4. The Weakened Goose Any savvy player will know at least a little about all their opponents before entering a game, and while picking the slowest player during your turn will not present much of a challenge for you it will greatly increase you chances of re-entering the circle. Fat or weak players are essential to any game, for a floundering or tired player to have a rest, and they can later be �let win� so that more skilled players can enter the game. A word of advice: try not to play with people who are all faster and better than you or you will end up as the weakened goose, or �runt� as they are known in professional circles. Also, try not to make it too obvious who is the runt of the game, since them knowing is often conducive to them not playing. CONCLUSION I�d like first to thank everyone who helped me with this guide, or contributed to it in any way, especially the fine people who run our website http://www.duckduckgooseassociation.org I hope it will encourage more of you to take up duck duck goose, either as a casual hobby or something more serious (though as many of our regulars will tell you, one can quite quickly develop into the other!). Much more information, as well as fixture lists, articles, videos and pictures as well as a full product range can be found on our website, and lively discussion forums ensure there is always something to go back for. You can also find a list of clubs in your area on the site, and how to join � and if there isn�t a club nearby, why not start one? We can offer advice and guidance on starting and running your club, and on the more practical side of duck duck goose such as finding players, arranging tournaments and advertising. All that remains to be said is good luck with your games of duck duck goose, and who knows, maybe we�ll be hearing from you soon! Best Wishes, Kieran Devaney (Chairman of the Duck Duck Goose Players of England) p.s. The first person to say something about 'having too much time on your hands' will get a furrowed brow in their direction. 10p if anyone can spot two (or possibly more) factual errors in the guide. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john at xxx.uk Sat Jun 29 22:53:47 2002 From: john at xxx.uk (John Jennings) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:53:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: This is immunity for virus X. I hope you would enjoy it. Message-ID: <3D1E2C6B.3060103@ilonline.co.uk> i'm sick of getting emails that say things like that. everyone keeps trying to send me viruses... i'm not sure what i've done to offend them... maybe it was subliminal or in a past life... its not gonna work anyway cos i use netscape not outlook. so there. i've been in south wales for a couple of days. and very nice it was too. i tried to find some people who could speak welsh ("i've been learning your bluddy language so we're bluddy well going to talk welsh alright??!") but failed miserably (dammit)... i bought some welsh books from whsmith ('horrible histories' no less) and a gorkys albums from a lovely little shop in cardiff... the 'introducing' album... its actually a compilation of tracks, all of which i already own, but i felt as though i ought to buy something and the prospect of buying more gorkys music was too exciting; gorky's are utterly brilliant, i occasionally forget and then rediscover them... and then, after the exciting exploits of the last few days, i've just spent the last 15 minutes trying to get cat vomit out of the carpet. sigh... idles was talking about hayfever and just to annoy her i am now going to offer my diagnosis... i was prescribed loratadine but doctors aren't allowed to prescribe that anymore for some reason so i was put on desloratadine which is crap. so then he put me on some different drug (ciritizine??) which made no difference whatsoever. and then my nice doctor prescribed steroids or something. and they don't seem to have made a big difference either so i've resorted to high doses of decongestants and keeping my eyes closed. i'm a wee bit scared of my doctor, he appears to have no sense of humour whatsoever... if you try to crack a joke or say something to raise a smile he just looks at you blankly which makes you feel really stupid. he probably thinks i'm insane. i know i'm supposed to mention b&s somewhere in here... haven't been listening to them recently though... i've gone off storytelling quite a bit... hopefully they'll be on glastonbury coverage though... erm... dum de dum.... who knows why i pressed the 'compose' button. i apologise. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From birosaregreat at xxx.com Sun Jun 30 02:13:18 2002 From: birosaregreat at xxx.com (James Danson-Hatcher) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 02:13:18 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Hello Lasses/lads hope you're all in perfect states of felicity. I'm having real problems getting my eyes to shut, I aught to be asleep in bed, ready for whatever tomorrow has on the menu. Thinking of those lucky siniglastonians dosen't help. So, I've popped my head out of the open window into the light of quarter past four morning its got straight,flat,light grey clouds all about the distance, they've got orange edges. and jet-streams from last nights aeroplanes are now like invisable ink messages that've now been highlighted visable from dark. Hopefully in daytime they'll be chalklines on delftware. Next doors garden is toy littered and has various clothes(underware too) strew about the place. The scent of one of those plants that colour the night has quietly and gently made itself known, though rather diluted by crisp morning moisture in the sky. Will the birds be so enthusiastic in London? I wonder what I'll miss. I know I'll miss the emptiness I can easily escape to while far into the county, I shaln't miss the emptiness that can easily creep into my mind from this place. Someone(who I think was called Gill) asked about Haruki Murasawa. I'm going to point you in the direction of Norwegien Wood which is written by said Jap bloke and is quite one of the best stories I've read since.....ever. If like me, you'll most likely find yourself so enthrawled(?) you read it twice over within a 24 hour period. Yeah, its dead good. Picnicing Are we? There was mention of one atop primrose hill on the 13th. But who are we playing against?(at football) Oh and lots of people could help make me *feel at home* by means of Tia Maria. James Danson-Hatcher. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From theres_too_much_love at xxx.com Sun Jun 30 03:52:14 2002 From: theres_too_much_love at xxx.com (michael grant) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 02:52:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: isobel, big brother, stevie wonder, flirting, b&s, porn, and more. Message-ID: HEY SINISTER! it's 2am and i feel like staying up late, so you're probably gonna get a long rambling post out of my insomnia, (is it still insomnia if you've just finished off a 2litre bottle of coke? didn't think so). i shall try my best to have headings where possible so you can skip parts that are of no interest to you. ISOBEL ------ nobody seems to be missing her much. which is bad. she was lovely. i liked her voice. i loved her cello. i urge you all to go back and play your b&s records, and try and imagine them without the cellos pieces. the songs would be much less without her, and although i'm sure they will continue to make great music without her, i for one will miss her presence greatly. *sniff* and damn, is she sexy?! ;-) BIG BROTHER ----------- Kieran Devaney said: "Another thing which has been puzzling me .... is the continuing popularity of that �Big Brother� show" sorry. im an addict. i do admit that it's less entertaining than the previous two series, but i still watch it. i like to laugh at stupid people. i like to bitch about people i'll never meet. i like to watch kate in her bikini. i like to shout abuse at tim. and jade. and adele. and tim some more. (the ginger, arrogant twat.) i don't watch eastenders, or hollyoaks, or any of that crap. big brother is the same sort of thing, except you dont have to put up with the shitty acting. it's trash tv, but it's addictive because over the 64 days you get a feel for these people. you dont have to waste time judging different people every day (like trisha, for example), you can just pick up your ill-formed prejudices from the day before. oh, and i AM allowed to be nasty to these people, because they put themselves in there, knowing the public scrutiny that comes with it. if i was to meet them on the 'outside', id probably give them a bit more of a chance, but i will never meet these people, so i shall continue to judge them and laugh at them and shout hateful slogans at them. that's the point of the show. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - vilkas talked about lots of things. one was rediscovering albums. i did that this week with stevie wonder's talking book. i used to dismiss it as 'superstition' [which mister john played at nationalpopleague yesteday. marvellous.] and some other songs, and it was neglected many-a-time in favour of innervisions. but, having regained both albums last week, having been on-loan for quite a while, i have been totally overwhelmed by the brilliance of the songs on talking book. go buy it. it's simply outstanding. i believe, you and i, blame it on the sun, are all fantastic tunes. stevie wonder is a gifted crafter of songs. she also talked about being a 'socialite' and a 'serial flirter', but still not being able to find a honey. "Fuck all that. Meeting people is easy. Teehee. But when it comes to l-o-v-e, I shrink back into my turtle shell. Why do i do this? It drives me up the fuckin wall!" i know exactly what you mean. i am THE serial flirter. take last night at pop league for example. i licked miss juicy lucy's sweat right off my pint glass, (you don't want to know how it got there, trust me), i played footsie with miss carey, i got hip-shakingly funky with mister ally cook, and i even got the dj to strip (slightly). and it doesnt stop there. gav was so infatuated with me, he even drew my portrait, and lord keith of edinburgh kept writing down his phone number for me. ;o) but even with all this major flirting action, there's still no 'proper' action for ickle mikey. so if there are any hot sinister ladies (or former members of glasgow indie bands with ample behinds and lots of newly-found spare time) who want to instigate some inter-list smut action with my good self, drop me a line. thanks. otherwise, this massive flirt-a-thon will just keep on going, and i dont want to know what'll happen if it's still here when 'big, hot' mark casserole gets across the border next week. finally, vilkas said: "Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt." i like that word. it's possibly the only swear word that still retains that sense of taboo. which is the whole point of swear words, surely? it's still the only word i can't say in front of my mum. BELLE AND SEBASTIAN ------------------- that huge vomit-inducing shitbag of a cuntmonkey, mister robertson said: "Our heroes Stuart and Richard will be guests on BBC Liquid News tonight on BBC Choice at 8PM." so, anybody see it? can't seem to find any mention of it on the bbc website. i missed it and was hoping to find out if it was going to be repeated, but cant find a darn thing. and did anyone actually record it for our favourite foul-mouthed management guru? or have we finally reached our limit, and are refusing to do favours for that horrid, rude little man? :o) FUNNY THINGS ------------ marriana's www.theonion.com link was hilarious, especially.... "In 1982, the company introduced "Shakes McJunkie," an emaciated addict who robbed characters of their possessions, which he then sold to buy McDonald's shakes. He was later reworked as "The Machead," a homeless, wild-eyed Big Mac addict who turned to panhandling and gay prostitution as a means of supporting his severe burger habit." flippin' genius. as is this.... http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199804/msg00003.html just clicked on the search button on the sinister homepage 'cos i was interested by the word 'porn'. i love those random search words. you find such gems in the dark distant vaults of the sinister archives. you don't want to know what comes up if you enter 'stuart murdoch' and 'leather'. but just in case, you better know that one of the entries that appears is by a certain miss genevieve. hmmmm..... there are LOADS of fun things i want to say. more about pop league, about the belle and sebastian gig, about me, about books..... and so on, but it's now 3.30 and im going to bed. i shall probably return tomorrow if i can't think of anything more fun to do, and bore you to tears once again. but before i got, i think i have earned the right to do some shameless promotion, on behalf of others, all of this parish though. if you live in (or near) glasgow, and you like indie, go here: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie if you like the national pop league, and perhaps want look at a blurry photo of me dancing, or maybe play five-a-side football, go here: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/nationalpopleague if you would like information about the winchester club, go here: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_winchester_club right, goodbye. stay smutty. michael.xx ps - a quick get well soon shout out to miss idles and anyone else suffering in the summer weather. i like your idea of popping off to alaska for a month. think the nhs would pay for it? always worth a try. "get out of your apartment. meet a member of the opposite sex. stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. quit your job. start a fight. prove your alive. if you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic." - tyler durden. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Sun Jun 30 08:12:23 2002 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:12:23 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: OFFTOPIC: plea for One Dove rarities and Tanya Donelly live stuff! Message-ID: hiya just finished off a gruelling med rotation at fremantle hospital, all the while feeling slightly screwed over but nevermind! this was followed by an emotionally intense week of working with terminally ill patients, the one i was assigned to went into a coma. dearie me:( holidays have also come and gone, and my characteristic good intentions (to catch up on all my work!) has proven for naught:) but a pretty good holiday nonetheless. LOVE the "storytelling" soundtrack but refuse to see the movie (even if it does the wonderful Selma Blair in it). love "fuck this shit" sounds like a beautiful Henry Mancini old school instrumental and "Mandingo Cliche" is hilariously perverse. of course love "big john shaft", "stoytelling" et al. Last yr, wrote to list about getting One Dove rarities and got a reply. but unfortunately never heard from the guy again (think he had to go somewhere for a while) so am writing again to plea-sorry!:) If anyone would have the following One Dove rarities: Camp Freddie's Lament Transient Truth (death of a disco dancer) Fallen [Nancy & Lee mix] Fallen (Darkest Hour) Fallen (Dawn) Fallen (Dusk) Transient Truth (Sabres Fuzz Dub) Sirens (demo) any live One Dove stuff or recent Tanya Donelly live stuff (her lovely "beautysleep"album era) especially like the session she played on kcrw's "morning becomes eclectic" (that aired tuesday april 23, 2002) please contact me as I'm desperate for them! I have stacks of rare/live/unreleased/promo stuff from a immense amount of bands like B&S, Tindersticks, Belly, One Dove, Dot Allison, St Et, Black Box Recorder, Palace, Smog, Low and stacks more. please email me off the list at daftpunk at tartarus.uwa.edu.au thanx heaps and sorry to bother anyone not interested in above artists hope to hear from some of you soon:) later Kin Woo "With a star upon your shoulder Lighting up the path as you walk" Stuart Murdoch +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sun Jun 30 17:32:48 2002 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: PICNIC details for GLASGOW NEXT WEEK Message-ID: <20020630163248.87083.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> LADIES AND GENTLEMAN! ***the picnic next week in Glasgae*** You are invited to attend the merriement and laughter and initial twee shyness before getting it on with each other of next weeks glasgow pubnic. We shall be meeting at 2pm. And going to West 13th. I've never been there before, no idea how to get there. Ask directions from a friendly policeman. And if you don't like my arrangements then do it yourselves and stop asking "whose arranging it?" pff. Thankyou idles ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Sun Jun 30 23:52:47 2002 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 23:52:47 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: All I want to do is just embrace this fat young boy Message-ID: <20020630225247.74423.qmail@web14406.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Ubersinisterants Just a quickie from me as someone asked. I've already replied to Neil but B&S were meant to be on last nights liquid news but they LIED. the scamps. they weren't on at all and I'm going to write to the following people to demand to know why not. 1. Klepto the happy starfish 2. The Barcelona Philharmonic Orchestra 3. Carlos my next door neighbour who used to be in the mafia. 4. Mr Blobby 5. Bob Bolder. 6. Plato. There was a bit on before on "the state of independents" about Jeepster, including bits of the dog on wheels (B&S doing mindless graffiti shocker!)and is it wicked not to care videos, but it only amounted to about 5 minutes and I taped over it last night with Life of Brian. It's a classic. congratulations to all the Brazil fans. I liked the way the cameramen always managed to find the fit looking birds in the crowd (always blonde and/or with a bikini top on), especially in the brazil games but also portugal/spain/anything a bit latiny (is that a word). Cheered everything up for me but then again I am a bit sad. Things that have been puzzling Dean this week - part 2. Why did the three musketeers always use swords? Am I being thick here or should they not use muskets? Maybe there were strict gun controls in France at the time or something. If anybody could shed some light on this please. I'm not sure how to add links but I'll give it a whirl. http://www.miniaturebull.com/ very cute tiny cows for some reason. Sad today because the tapas bar has shut down - sob. And, of yes, because I had a few comments before, when I said I had my back door kicked in I was talking in a literal sense and not, um, an analagous? figurative? whats the word? sense. you set of anally obsessed perverts! Loads of love Dean XXX Society produces rogues, and education makes one rogue cleverer than another. The Lovely Oscar. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi_trenzano at xxx.es Sun Jun 30 22:51:27 2002 From: jordi_trenzano at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 23:51:27 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Benicassim hotel room Message-ID: <01cc01c22080$524ee4c0$56f862d5@teleline.es> Hello hello: If any of you is coming to Benicassim and wnat to avoid the camping zone, i'll let you know that I booked a double room on a small hotel, and for various reasons, right now it's free. It costs 180 euros for 6 nights (from thursday 31st to wednesday 6th), including lunch and dinner. If anyone's interested, just send me a private answer. Sorry for the list abuse, miss Linda. Jordi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+