From S.Hewitt at xxx.uk Tue Apr 1 09:47:29 2003 From: S.Hewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:47:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Reporting Back and further bowling info Message-ID: ello babies So I went to see THE SINISTERS on Saturday and they were a very perky, 60s garage !p!o!p! kind of thing and they all had exciting 60s style clothing on. I went up to the singer afterwards and asked where they got their name from and apparently two of them are left-handed "and sinister means left-handed, you know" she said helpfully. "Oh, *i* know" I replied. RICKY SPONTANE (theyplayedatmyweddingyouknow) were also v good, but NOUGHT from oxford were v scary in a freeimprovnoiseprog kind of way. Also, somewhat randomly, EVAN DANDO was there, but I was a bit confused by that point (guinness is a confusing thing, you know) so wasn't exactly sure which person he was. This is because I was talking to all my old mates from cheltenham, several of whom I hadn't seen for aaaaaaaaages, and who are now in exciting rock bands in london (rather than exciting rock bands in cheltenham) with names like THE BEATINGS and BLACK MADONNA. Ken said (because he is a different, helpful xXxer): Did you know there is a yahoo group for sinister glasto meetups? (set up by Carsmile Steve?) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/siniglasto/ Which is possibly the first time anyone but me has plugged it which is nice. I noticed some sort of pezzypop joining up the other day, hello pezzypops ;) Needless to say, my ticket is booked like a big book shaped thing. Further to Ken's large mine of bowling info for Saturday. When you arrive at Finsbury Park, if you look on the "continuing your journey from finsbury park" map, ROWANS is handily marked on said map. Also they have a !D!D!R! machine as well as the easiest grabber in the world. We watched one young lady retrieve half a dozen stuffed toys from it in almost as few goes the other week. Saturday will be the third time in three weeks I have been to Rowans, I feel this is nothing to be proud of... I've seen that other b&s interweb hobby, they don't look like they could beat mighty sinister fc at tiddlywinks, never mind footy ;) (hold on, who is mighty sinister fc these days??? With 96 at atp and bapps in ameriky are we relying on the kaiser to break some bones???) See you at the weekend (and you, but not you, obviously, I mean you live on the other side of the planet, innit, not that it wouldn't be delightful if you just turned up) xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Tue Apr 1 12:34:42 2003 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:34:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Robin Cook Fanclub Message-ID: Well, it appears I'm not going to Glastonbury this year after all. I've been mulling it over in my mind, trying to decide whether I can afford it or not, and now all the tickets have sold out within 24 hours. Oh well, fate I suppose. All that talk last week about how sunny it was seems to have cursed the weather. Nottingham's been under a cloud all day. It looks like rain. It's wet, it's falling from the sky, and it's collecting in puddles. Yes, it's rain alright. Meanwhile on the Sinister webpage, it's still snowing, and has been continuously since before Christmas. No wonder we've not heard from Honey recently, she must be snowed in. Maybe Aunt Sadie has taken her sledging. Just watch out for the evil Casarotto throwing snowballs. Discussion from the weekend: Lost Classics. Songs which should have become all-time favourites, but for some reason, never did, and have been largely forgotten by the populace. Our chart included: Sparky's Dream - Teenage Fanclub After All - The Frank And Walters Girl At The Bus Stop - BMX Bandits Monday Morning 5.19 - Rialto The Crystal Lake - Grandaddy Agolo - Angelique Kidjo I Want An Alien For Christmas - Fountains Of Wayne Kung Fu - Ash The Man With The Red Face - Laurent Garnier Oblivion - Terrorvision In other news, it's picnic time! The weather forecast is, well, undecided as to whether it'll be hot and sunny or not; but hey, there's always the pub just in case... All you need is yourself, some food, some beers, and a smile (how cheesy is that?) And because I'm such a helpful fellow, I'll even help you out by sharing my favourite picnic food recipe: PRIMROSE CAKE Ingredients: 4oz plain flour 4oz attractive flour 5oz healthy alternative butter substitute 2 pinches of self-raising salt 4 eggs (scotch) 3 tbsps cocoa powder (preferably from the Tbspsina region of Hungary) 1 sultana, diced 142-145 hundreds and thousands Instructions: Whip the ingredients together (or if you're using your whip for other purposes (Archel?), use a whisk instead). Pour into a microwavable bucket. Cook in a medium oven (or cook twice in a small oven), stirring every 35-40 seconds. Remove when cold all the way through. Shrink-wrap in polythene. Offer to others before you eat any yourself (after all, it's only polite). Serve with custard. Failing that, you could always go to Sainsbury's. In other news, I've got to stop using the phrase "In other news", it's getting out of hand... After that, I'll be able to concentrate on stopping using three dots at the end of every sentence... Big Stu PS Since I started writing this, the sun has come out. Typical. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Tue Apr 1 16:51:33 2003 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:51:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: She can have a tummy and still be yummy! Message-ID: "If you don�t wear daring clothes because you worry about your cattier girlfriends snickering, I suggest you lose those particular girlfriends and replace them with a buttery pair of understanding leather pants." --Margaret Berry No leather pants in my small circle of knowledge has ever been "understanding." However, we all know that whenever anyone states having a problem with leather pants it's usually code for having a problem with - not the pants - but their fat ass. The Three Cs: Cankles As Kevin explicated, cankle is a word formed from "ankle" and "calf" for those who seem to have no differentiation between the two. I tried to develop my own "cankle gallery" of sorts by taking my digital camera with me to one of my mother's church services in hopes that many of the dumpling of a woman which attend had such an affliction. Or better yet had a THANKLE! (no thigh to calf to ankle definition: tree trunk legs). However, all of them had quite shapely legs and they don't even genuflect! Maybe there are some curative points to green bean casserole afterall. Of course, all of them also do things like hold my hand and trace up my arm with their fingertips while talking to me or do one of those one sided hugs as they run their hand up and down my back slowly. I've been groped more times in church than on any date. There's no telling what kind of exercise these women's legs are getting on the side. When I first heard about this cankle phenomenon (approximately around 3 in the morning), I frantically ran around trying to find someone still awake to look at my legs to tell me if I was indeed cursed with this. However, unlike my moral values and principles, my ankles are quite well defined. Now my worry has moved on to: Carb Face According to Auntsadie, carb face is a real problem facing the modern metrosexual male. I am neither a metrosexual nor a male, yet I like carbs. Down with Atkins! The best example of such puffy faced horror is Xander from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Remember the early seasons when he wore speedos? After carb face hit, he'd wear em just to keep people from staring at his face. Cloche While I'm on fashion and the such, I think I should devote some time to this little bell of a hat which has been more or less neglected since the 1920s, except for that foxy Kelly Macdonald in Gosford Park. They're darling and there's nothing more useful for avoiding eye contact with others while trying to read in a public place - except for a helmet with a visor perhaps. But where's the fashion sense in that? As the aforequoted Margaret Berry said, "Flappers never had bad-hair days. They lopped off their tresses, tugged on a cloche, and headed out for an evening of Charleston and bootleg gin. What�s more, flappers wore comfy dresses shaped like potato sacks. They could wear whatever they liked; who the hell notices when you have that darling bell of a hat on? And so, you see, hats make life easier and loads more fun." I don't really have any April Fools jokes for you. Not even the geeky librarian kind about Laura Bush having been named the new librarian of congress and her first duty was to remove all french books from the collection and rename it the "Ronald Reagan Library of Congress." However, I do want to send birthday shouts out to songles Dave whose birthday is today and to ZoziePop and RICHARD JOHN GILLANDERS who both had ones last week. xo, Ll PS - Also shouts out to Marianna my London Shoe Shopper Extraordinairre, the ever so darling Robin Stout, my own personal photoshop Ken Chu who I promised to declare my love to, and my sinister sinister crush Miss Ullastrator _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rabidpenguin at xxx.com Tue Apr 1 20:51:15 2003 From: rabidpenguin at xxx.com (s. lord) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 13:51:15 -0600 Subject: Sinister: sleeping in class is only a hobby Message-ID: its been so long since i have posted - but i had some free time today - and a pretty interesting morning - so here it is - the sun is out today - and it is actually quit warm - i was very surprised - last week the sun was out a lot - but it wasn't very warm - i was thinking the same thing today so i dressed in my favorite argyle sweater* and shirt and went to school - from now on i will be checking the weather before i go - but that is iowa - the weather can change from 23 to 70 in one day - eh - bother - but anyways i went to class and the most peculiar thing happened to me - i was tired to of course i sat in the back - this way i can sleep or listen to music (badly drawn boy today) if i so feel like it - so i found a nice little spot in the back of the class at the top of the auditorium - and usually it is pretty dead up there - only a couple of us sleepers or dreamers - wasting class - well it is a waste of a class anyway - but so i am sitting there and this girl comes and sits by me - she is a little waife of a thing - dainty and skinny and just oh so perfect looking - but oh well - i was gonna sleep and she can't do much to bother me - if she wants to sit there - let her - so class begins and i decided to instead write a letter - sadly enough i was not very sleepy because of my clothing choice (mentioned above) i was extremely hot - so i just couldn't sleep - anyway skip ahead like 30 minutes - and i was kinda paying attention to the teacher but i notice something - the girl next to me has two notebooks out - one is her notes and the other she had written her phone number on - now� i was not really snooping at what she was doing - the way the class is set up the chairs are at an angle and i could she her things very well - so i am completely intrigued by this - why did she write her phone number there - so i decided to act - so i yawn and stretch and murmur to quietly 'i am so bored' - just to see if she would maybe turn to me and say anything - well she didn't turn around - but she did then write her name under the phone number - BRITTNEY - hahaha - oh my god - then after that she proceeds to draw little stars and hearts all over the page - - - - but seriously what was that? - was i delirious - did that really happen - was she giving me her phone number in class? - hahah - oh what could have been a penthouse letter in the making for a straight boy was wasted on me - hehe - oh too much fun - - all this talk of cankles has brought about a question in my mind - are cankles made or are you born with them?� i mean - are they purely genetic - is someone who has cankles doomed to live with them for the rest of their lives? or can one work out with cankle exercises and get rid of them?� not that i have them - i was just wondering - and then lastly i need to shamelessly plug a wonderful cd i got just awhile ago - everyone needs to go out and buy the new cat power record - you are free - it is great - her voice is just amazing the way it floats over the minimal guitar - it is just great - i completely recommend it - ti does sound like her past records - but that is good - she doesn't go out and experiment much with any new sounds - just what has worked before - and it is simply wonderful - this is all for now - thanks for reading - hope i haven't bored you to much - --s.lord *if you are really bored you can see the blog that has a photo of me in the argyle sweater - well there is a link there to take you there anyway - under stolen souls - http://www.theparadiselost.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------ what we place most hopes upon, generally proves most fatal - vicar of wakefield _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmhyde at xxx.edu Wed Apr 2 05:17:59 2003 From: kmhyde at xxx.edu (Kevin Hyde) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:17:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: one last thing about c*****s, then we're off to sleep Message-ID: <000001c2f8ce$d83fb380$ac72ef80@wm.edu> Hey Sinister, So this isn't even close to the requisite 15 mins. (and about that- is it time thinking about your post, or the physical typing act? I had always wondered.), but I figured there were some pressing questions and comments indeed re cankles. So, to answer S. Lord, I'd say that cankles can be genetic, but that you can definitely get rid of them in no time flat. An exercise of choice? When I played soccer for high school, we were encouraged to do our calf-conditioning by standing on our toes in the shower, and then relaxing, for about 100 or so iterations each day. So they're not irreparable or anything like that. But the reverse can be true, i.e. you can earn yourself some mean cankles if you work at it through a system of ruthless atrophication. I suppose you could always interpret cankles as a sort of Rubenesque trait- that they are ostensive of a lifestyle which does not require heavy walking or even standing. Nice. And w/r/t Laura Llew's comments, or more as a corollary I guess, I forgot to mention that tons of guys I know have tube-legs or cankles, without an inch of definition on them. Plus their legs are starting to be denuded from wearing pants all the time, which is creepy in and of itself. Also mentioned (or hinted at): Sapphic churches(!), ahem. Sign me up to be an altar boy. Anyway. I did want to put in a small amount of envy in this email. Of the Sinister picnics and -ers in the U.K. I always imagine them as gatherings full of sunshine and sudden joy. Perfect beyond comprehension. With like animals coming out of the woods and asking if they can join in on the soccer games, and then politely scarfing down beer along with anyone else. In case you're wondering, this is what it's like to O.D. on C.S. Lewis (little brother was sick, asked me to read, et-cet.) That's it. Kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From anders at xxx.com Wed Apr 2 18:16:07 2003 From: anders at xxx.com (Anders) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 19:16:07 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Been to circus lately? Message-ID: <200304021916.AA3862823106@bakvendtland.com> Dear Sinister Have any of you been to circus lately. I guess not. But I have. About a week ago my sister invited me, she's a journalist you see, and she got some tickets for free. Well, she'll have to write about it, though. The circus was yesterday, and I’m still amazed. Anyway, I was invited and the only thing I had to do was to be there, and maybe, if she couldn't find another child, she'd ask me some questions and maybe take some photos. She's journalist for a local newspaper you see, "Groruddalen Budstikke", and the circus has got nothing to do with Groruddalen at all. But I have. So if she couldn't find a little boy or girl from Groruddalen, she'd interview me. She didn’t find any of those, she didn't even try. But she didn't interview me, I just said that as long as I'm in the newspaper I'll say anything, you just make up something. Whatever you like. She said it was OK. Still, I'm wondering about what my reactions to the circus will be... We took some pictures of me when I was standing inside The Ring, together with the man in charge. It was great fun. And tomorrow I’ll be able to read about it in the paper, so will just about 500 000 others. (Maybe it’s more like 200 000, but anyway, it’s still more people than I will ever know.) I guess all of you will read “Groruddalen budstikke”, and because of that I will tell you what I really felt about it all. I don’t want you to get a wrong impression of me, cause who knows what my sister will make up - Imagine yourself. You’re three years old and standing on a grass-grown field. Then imagine the circus tent behind you, all the trucks with animals from all over the world, the strange people and last but not least: the big bucket of popcorn in your arms (it is almost as tall as you are!). You think about all the places where these trucks and people have been, what have they seen there? Maybe a dragon? You also have a lollipop in you mouth, and for a second you just focus on the wonderful taste. Cause you’re still able too stay focused on such a little and unimportant thing. You realise that popcorn’s better than lollipops and you put a handful of it in your mouth. Delicious! You’re dreaming about going all those places where these vehicles have been, but on the other hand you wouldn’t be anywhere else than right where you are now. Holding your dad’s hand. There’s a clown coming over. “What is that?” you’re thinking. Is it an animal? A wild African animal from the jungle? Whatever it is it looks scary. His white face reminds you of death, dead people. The clown is as pale as death. You scream. The clown gets scared, and you realise that you’re not the one that should be afraid, cause you’ve got your dad standing by your side, but you can’t see his dad... You ask him if he’s some kind of an animal, he says that he’s not, he says that he’s just a clown and that he didn’t intend to scare you, he’s really sorry. “You’re such a twee child,» he says (and you are) You feel pity for him. He looks stupid and has to go around looking stupid without holding his dad’s hand, while everyone else does. Poor clown. You can smell foreign countries and cultures. How does people look on the other side of the earth, what do they smell? Maybe they smell like this vehicle. You start walking toward one of them. “ Where are you going? We’ll miss the circus!” Miss the show, the circus!? You hurry back. You don’t know what you will see, what you will feel and smell, but you know it’ll be great fun. You’re so excited. Can you feel it? Maybe it wasn’t like this, but can you feel the feeling you had the first time you ever went to a circus? I felt that way before I went into the tent yesterday. (I wasn’t afraid of the clowns, though. It’s true! And I was holding my sister’s hand. No I wasn't afraid of the clowns!) I hadn’t been to circus for ages and couldn’t even remember the last time. But when I got inside I remembered it all. Funny thing, when you go inside the tent, you feel like you leave this planet and enter a totally different reality. Magic. The show was better then I could imagine. It was funny, impressing and thrilling. The best part was Mr. Dalmantiner and his amazing dogs and wee horses. They did the most unbelievable things. You’ll have to see it to understand how incredible it was. For a wee while I thought the dogs were some programmed electronic robots. I thought that whoever programmed them is really clever. But whoever taught the dogs to do these tricks is a genius. The tweest one in the circus was the elephant girl. She was the daughter of one of the elephant men, and was about one year old. The elephant lifted her in his trunk. She was happy, wee and tubby. The elephants danced on small boxes. The clowns were disappointing. They tried to be funny, but couldn’t speak a word of Norwegian. (They were Spanish) So when they tried it was like this: “AAAAHHHHHHHEEEEEEHHHHHRRRRRRRR” (OK. They were scary. I was afraid.) Nobody understood it. And the “story” wasn’t funny either. I expected a laugh, but didn’t get one. But the circus was great. (Sirkus Arnardo) and you should check it out. Or you could visit another circus next time one of them comes to your town. I’m sure you’ll love it. Popcorn & Lollipops to everyone! Anders PS I wish there was some kind of correction program that would correct my mispsellings and grammatical mistakes Blame it on the fact that I’m a teenager, a Norwegian teenager +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Wed Apr 2 20:30:30 2003 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 19:30:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: i use the same suit for everything Message-ID: The song on the radio was �Rawhide� by The Ventures. I knew it well, and so, it seemed, did my dad and he hummed along with the gentle lilt of the tune as he drove. I had first come across this song a couple of years ago, downloading it during a period of wilful and quite deliberate quote unquote broadening of my horizons. If you go to the warp records website which I believe can be found at http://www.warprecords.com then you can listen to streams of old radio mixes from a variety of their artists. A great deal of them are well worth hearing I think, I might even guardedly venture that they�re more often than not better than the output of whoever put the sets together � the whole being significantly less than the sum of its parts, as it were. A fair few of them provide tracklistings to go with the stream, and if your computer is anything like mine then if you connect up to the stream and get it playing then the sound will constantly stop and wait and then start up again because of something called buffering. Buffering is most annoying, and not at all conducive to hearing what�s going on properly, and I expect you will, I certainly did. One way to remedy this would be to download the tracks from the mix and then listen to them separately. The added bonus being of course that you could then do that again and again if you liked them enough, whether online or off. From my truncated, bitty hearings, the aptly titled �Discomix� by Plone sounded particularly worthy, containing bits of dub, obscure psych nuggets (they always get called those, don�t they?), some lounge music, some soundtrack stuff, etc, you get the idea� My fledgling knowledge at the time could only find one real reference point to the sounds that I heard from that stream and that was, er, Plone themselves. So I set about downloading, and indeed it introduced me to such luminaries as Ennio Moriconne, Delia Derbyshire, Martin Denny and the curiously named Dick Hyman. This was unfamiliar music made by unfamiliar people, people�s whose records I had never seen in the shops, wouldn�t know where to start looking if I had wanted them. Of course, this is one of the many beauties of filesharing, especially the now tragically defunct Audiogalaxy � and whatever the various setbacks and arguments against it it�s hard to imagine finding music like this and being able to listen to it properly without such programmes. I mention all this because, as you might possibly have guessed, a song by The Ventures � it wasn�t �Rawhide� though, in fact the site didn�t know which song it was, there was just a question mark next to the band�s name, so without a proper title I decided to download a couple of Ventures tunes, just to get a rough idea. One of these was indeed �Rawhide�. If you�re not familiar with the song, and I guess there�s all sorts of reasons why you wouldn�t be (it's a cover too, so perhaps you've heard other versions), then it goes like this: First, there are a few plucked notes on a twangy guitar, then another guitar and a bass join in, along with some percussion and they play together for a few seconds, it�s a neat, upbeat surf guitar number, I suppose that�s how you�d describe it, simple stuff, the guitars build and then there�s a spate of gunfire percussion, a pause and the tune starts up again. About halfway through there�s some more elaborate soloing on the lead guitar, and the percussion gets a bit more frenetic towards the end, but that�s more or less it really. I like the DJ on this station, Capitol Gold, my dad�s choice � �Something like that probably wouldn�t get into the charts these days.� He reckons, but he says it in a way that doesn�t make it sound like a dismissal of the stuff that is in the charts, which isn�t easy, let me tell you. As the record plays in the car I�m reminded of first listening to it, along with a whole bunch of other stuff laboriously downloaded on my 56k connection (I like to think that the waiting makes us value songs that little bit more when they finally arrive), on my tinny in-ear headphones, or through equally tinny computer speakers, I can�t recall which, though it was probably the former. Imagine me sat there, then, little earphones plugged in, the noise from the telly in the background as my brother watches, I don�t know, something offensive, in front of the computer, listening to this new music. And thinking at first how alien it seemed from the digital clunks of the Warp Records site, and how divorced it all seemed, both from the stuff in the charts and the quote unquote indie stuff that my friends were listening to. This music seemed entirely out of that equation, and all the better for it, it spoke of a big open world bright with the fizz of a fun, dynamic future, away from streets bunged up with cluttered houses, litter, graffiti, boarded up shop windows and drab suburban Sunday evenings. It sounded at turns naggingly familiar and delightfully foreign, with the kind of open-handed optimism and innocence so absent from much of today�s music. I generalise of course. But with that innocence came a harsher, more fraught edge beyond the kitschy otherness, a genuine palpable dread of a future that this music might not be the soundtrack for. No wonder there has been a revival of sorts, posited by groups like Stereolab, most notably and various others who I�m sure you�re aware of. Apparently you used to be able to pick up these records in charity shops and at car boot sales, amongst all the other junk that we haven�t had a revival for yet, but it has all been snapped up by collectors. It�s a pity. Rare Moriconne records can fetch thousands nowadays, or so I�m told. A fistful of dollars indeed. So it might be worth having another flight through the racks at your local Age Concern, because you never know do you? But I didn�t learn this until much later and at the time of those first listens this music sounded like nothing else and I was instantly hooked. But, as I�ve said, the records themselves are difficult to come across, there are a few decent compilations knocking around, but mostly my collection has had to stick to mp3s, but there�s nothing wrong with that. From there it lead me down various avenues to free jazz, bits of world music and all sorts of other things besides � I shan�t list them. I believe the mixes are still online, if you�re interested � the ones to go for are the Plone and Broadcast ones I think. Even the mp3s are more difficult to find now, since the death of Audiogalaxy everything seems to have decentralised, and it�s probably nigh on impossible to find some of the songs, not without a lengthy trawl through the various filesharing networks anyway. Alas. My dad is humming along and at first I think I�ve mistakenly identified the song � or am not hearing it properly through the car speakers. But it is The Ventures, the DJ will confirm this for me after the song finishes � �Something like that probably wouldn�t get into the charts these days.� he will say. But today it sounds flat and uninspiring as we pass through Birmingham�s hollowed out building site district, on the way to the station, dusk just settling on a tepid sky, punctuated by the smoke trails of long-past aeroplanes. Today, sandwiched awkwardly between The Kinks� �Sunny Afternoon� and that record that was bastardised for the Vitalite adverts, with my dad humming along it doesn�t sound up to much, doesn�t sound half so exotic as it did before � it could be an entirely different record. Certainly if this would�ve been my first hearing then I wouldn�t have given it a seconds notice, would probably have forgotten it as soon as the record ended, another record consigned to irrelevance. But here it was, a record that had seemed to me part of a gateway to new musical experience � one that *had* in fact been part that gateway, now suddenly grounded. I think a big Part of what attracted me to the music in the first place, and what made me like it so much was that there were no faces attached, no familiar names, so little in the way of context, beyond the fact that Plone, or Broadcast, or whoever liked them � and who are Plone anyway? Two blokes from the same city as me, but beyond that? Nothing. And now my dad is humming along to one of those records � suddenly it has become part of his history too. Chances are he�s just heard it enough times on Capitol Gold while he�s driving, they don�t have a huge playlist really, but that�s enough to tie it to something less than exotic. Enough to pull it out of this big abstract past of glamour and transgression Some research on The Ventures reveals that they are, according to their fan websites, the most successful instrumental rock act of all time, they have recorded more than three thousand songs and in Japan in the sixties they outsold The Beatles by two to one. They are also still together, and touring regularly. Which isn�t to say I�m disappointed in any way, I listened to the song a couple of times while I was writing this and it still sounds pretty great, not nearly the most unconventional thing on Plone�s list, but not the most straightforward either. I enjoyed hearing it again this time anyway. And I know I�ve written about my dad probably too much, just check the archives, about how he tries to articulate the fact that he sometimes feels trapped by work and his family but the thought of him driving his car, humming along to that crackly surf guitar record from 1961, some two years before he was born, as it goes, is one that I can't help but let bother me. Insert your own superlative here. Sinister, I shall be seeing you on Saturday in London. - Kieran _________________________________________________________________ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Wed Apr 2 20:45:34 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 11:45:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: curiosity killed the kerouac cat Message-ID: <20030402194534.81030.qmail@web40602.mail.yahoo.com> so i was just reading my netscape news. this one story i found particularly horrid. it seems that some punk ass kid called the family of an army soldier and told them their son was killed in Iraq. Of course, the family because hysterically upset (duh) and, upon calling the army to get the details, found out it was some sort of sick joke. they hadn't heard from their son since january so it seemed to be logical to them. whomever they spoke with at the army office assured them that their son was safe and sound and that, in the event of a casualty, all branches of the military notify you in person of the situation. then they arranged a phone call so that the family could hear their sons voice and be assured. what a sick fuck. who would do that? i mean, i have a weird sense of humour, but it would NEVER occur to me to do something like that. after reading that, i went to see what words my phone number spells...nothing interesting. something like "me 87937 o" or similar. lame. ah well. the sun shines brightly in chicagoish today and here i sit, for the 9th day in a row, with a fever. afer spending 2 hours at the park this morning, my charges (and i) are ready for some well earned sleep. just found out about a new U2 dvd that will be released soon. a sort of history type thing. i'm tre excited. also read that the new radiohead album will come with a re-mixed/arranged/mastered copy of pablo honey. hmm. my apologies to my posse....i have been soooooooooo bad about replying to email. sorry :o( see, i had nothing to say really. just felt like saying hi to all of you....and telling you about that rude person and thier "joke" grr.. my latest favourite song follows.... ~stine my twentieth century i woke up this morning, dreading the thoughts of another, dull and boring day hey! woe is me. i go out on the streets, northside of the city i see the steel, the fading rust and the fields i used to play in.... my friends are famous and all my foes live happy loved by lycra, fooled by velcro and fucked by what they need.... but who am i to criticise? my pointing finger backfires i hang my head down low. i once believed in jesus, now i can't believe in rock 'n' roll from baptism to alcohol, in a land suffocatingly green hey! the myth is magic, do you know what i mean? the politics of sin and of sex suffer the fools, pawn our jewels, will it ever change? but who am i to criticise? i've made my bed, i lie on it and hold my head up high my disbelief. my fake redemption. my twentieth century. my holy war. my self indulgence. my twentieth century. my human flesh. my sad dependence. my twentieth century. my apathy. my big decision. my twentieth century. � __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Thu Apr 3 00:37:32 2003 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 00:37:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20030402233732.70518.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> Christine, what exactly are you trying to say with your little war story? If you want to argue the case for the US government, I will appreciate and enjoy your rhetoric. If you want to passive-aggressively make implications about the moral standpoints of those who don't agree with you, Don and Dubya, I have a fairly major problem with that. Over to you. __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Thu Apr 3 04:08:32 2003 From: bellezc at xxx.com (Zoe Charaktinou) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 04:08:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: tap-tap-tapping all night long Message-ID: So, Sinister... It's been a long time... Does it matter? I hope not... Haven't listened to our favourite band for soooooo long. Music is such a trigger of emotions sometimes it's so painful. I read and don't read posts, but I save them all! And go back to them...and read them like it's a book...an everlasting book...Somedays I get sad cos once I was soooooo devoted... ah well... so,old friend, it's not the end. ah...I had a lot to write and now i'm all shy again. Fuck it... I could never break into a conversation, too many sets of eyes would strike right back at me and, paraphrasing The Dirtbombs, I just can't take it. But lets try. I know I will sound like an old lady even though I am only at the tender age of 23, but people grow up and people change and suddenly it hits you that some of your best and oldest friends are..well..assholes.Not nice anymore.But how can one accept this?it's so frustrating.Especially when you see all that in a totally different context from what you knew throught your life.And what's even more frustrating is that these people that you have known ALL YOUR BASTARD LIFE are trying to show off to you!How pathetic is that?My friend- who is 23 too-told me "All the things I didn't do when I was 18, I'm doing them now"...how ridiculous is that? You are only 23!I mean, how wise are you now to realise that life has passed you by within 5 years so fuck around before it's too late?!I know...i'm whinging...i'm a grumpy sod...sue me. I don't know...I am unemployed for the past 4 months mind you...it's a state of mind that I want to parallel with being menopausal .not that i know how it is being menopausal personally but i do have the experience of attending the Mother menopause...so i can figure how it is , right? it's just insane...too much free time is as frustrating as a billion word PhD paper, I'm sure... It's not nice being unemployed..eeek..i hate the sound of this word...un-em-ployed...eeek...application forms SUCK big time... Q:"why do you wanna work for us then now?" ANSWER: option A: "I'm great!" option B: "I like your hair" option C: "As a recent graduate..blah blah...contributed in maintaining team spirit...blah blah...Oxford...blah blah...wrote a book that won Booker prize...blah blah...." option D: " I want a job." *sobs* And in other news - tee he...Big Stu used it and I got inspired- I think that The Hellacopters bring out my inner something. I mean when a song is called "I wanna touch" and it contains the following lyrics : She got me shaking But there's no room for moving in my bunk I'm seeing double and my pants are in trouble I'm tired of this right hand funk well...it gets me tap-tapping my feet AT LEAST tee he Hellacopters respect and they're fine looking lads too ha! nice talkin' to ya! 'til we meet again Z ------------------------------------------------------------------ " Passivity in life, in politics, is problematic: it means acquiescing to a status quo that damages people along class, gender, racial, sexual and other lines." R. Dyer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From billrogers_1 at xxx.com Thu Apr 3 06:23:29 2003 From: billrogers_1 at xxx.com (Nathan Reader) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 21:23:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: You have now been given a voice on the Nathan list. In-Reply-To: <20030329154011.20808.qmail@web10705.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030403052329.42168.qmail@web41315.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all, I have a request for you all that will actually be fun fulfilling!...well, maybe. To the best of my knowledge I basically own most of the CD's that I know are good, so...if you know of a CD or a few CD's that are really good and you think I might like them, can you e-mail me and tell me. Bands that I like (and already own their CD's, so don't recommend them) include: Belle and Sebastian (well duh) Sigur Ros Radiohead Beck Polyphonic Spree The white stripes The strokes...etc. That kind of stuff. Any help in these desperate times will not go unrewarded, you will have an inner glow for helping me. Thankyou and Toodles. Nathan. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Thu Apr 3 15:41:30 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 06:41:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: hmm Message-ID: <20030403144130.42708.qmail@web40611.mail.yahoo.com> so i seem to have twisted several peoples knickers lately. i think this is due to my lack of ability to articulate well. to clear the air... 1) i am not pro war 2) i am not a republican 3) i am not a dubya fan 4) i am, and have been for years, an active member of amnesty international 5) i am a member of the green party 6) i did not vote for bush 7) i did not vote for gore 8) i did vote for nader 9) yes, i think GWB is a scumbag....but i also think that Gore is a scumbag...and Clinton...and 99% ofpoliticians worldwide 10) please stop sending me hate mail and telling me that i know nothing. there have been many times where i have disagreed with opinions of people on sinister. i have never sent such an email. we are on this list to share our views, whether they be popular or not, and not to attack one another. if that were the case, i would bash every single person who likes the white stripes...i think they're shit, personally, but who the fuck cares? it's just a mailing list. 11) i have no firm stance on the war, really. my gut reaction is to say i am totally against it, yet i can respect and understand where people who are for it are coming from. if that makes me "suck" then so be it. that's all. ~stine __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Thu Apr 3 17:43:12 2003 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 11:43:12 -0500 Subject: Sinister: hmm Message-ID: <39B4FD7E.0FBE8C90.0274188F@aol.com> I think this may be a bit different than disliking the white stripes. Yeah? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Thu Apr 3 18:15:29 2003 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 17:15:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: your ass required Message-ID: hey sinilicious it's been awhile. yeah, quite awhile. oops. well, i've been busy. yeah, busy. frolicking with your lovies. as some of you may know, i'm a journalist. and at the moment i'm working on a very sinilicious article. which s why i'm writing actually - for a bit of assistance that only you lovelies can provide! so.... if some of you could send an email my way expressing: why you love this band so gosh-darned much; any especially exciting b&s experiences you have had; and thoughts about mr. murdoch in particular. i'd so appreciate it! i might even reward you. wooo! that's all really. thank you! hope y'all are well and good. as for me... well, i won't bore you with the details. except to say glasgow is fantastic. mmm yeah. ta! -stacey _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jaye-conner at xxx.edu Thu Apr 3 21:50:00 2003 From: jaye-conner at xxx.edu (Jaye Conner) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 14:50:00 -0600 Subject: Sinister: i liked what she said... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030403143326.0233ca40@mail.law.uiowa.edu> [...altering here and there for the readership....] 1st post i liked what christine irene said earlier and did not have a problem with it... i thought the phone prank was a s#$tty thing to do in this time and felt good that someone was making note of it. there are a lot of young men/women who see the issue as very cut-n-dry... 'listen to radiohead and b&s....hate bush... and americans...i will get up on a soap box for that' maentality (maybe it was her radiohead comment - who knows?) there are all kinds of reasons to hate the usa. i am older and sense an otherness on sinister. i read sparingly here and there. i know that there are other realities at play and that i don''t have a great deal in common with a lot of the posters. (i work-n-have debts-n-what not.) there is some semblance of well wishing and peace....and kindness, i.e. posts on the spice cinnamon, witty fashion advice, very good writing, and what not but underlying are these (and i will say) young men.... who seem a little angry...or at best fussy... we do all love b&s, see the genius, and have gathered here...but i don't have to be an anarchist or anti-american to hang and will endeavor to enjoy it on some level. i am writing without knowledge of what the members of b&s themselves think of the the world...but i don't think their views are in lock step with the dixie chicks...or the palestinians...(nor are mine) or that each and every member of sinister are in some symbiotic borg existence/mindset together... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From retrosec at xxx.uk Thu Apr 3 22:04:38 2003 From: retrosec at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Retro^Sec?=) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 22:04:38 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: oh, get over it Message-ID: <20030403210438.45304.qmail@web13113.mail.yahoo.com> Stine, wrote: so i seem to have twisted several peoples knickers lately. i think this is due to my lack of ability to articulate well. to clear the air... 1) i am not pro war 2) i am not a republican 3) i am not a dubya fan 4) i am, and have been for years, an active member of amnesty international 5) i am a member of the green party 6) i did not vote for bush 7) i did not vote for gore 8) i did vote for nader 9) yes, i think GWB is a scumbag....but i also think that Gore is a scumbag...and Clinton...and 99% ofpoliticians worldwide 10) please stop sending me hate mail and telling me that i know nothing. there have been many times where i have disagreed with opinions of people on sinister. i have never sent such an email. we are on this list to share our views, whether they be popular or not, and not to attack one another. if that were the case, i would bash every single person who likes the white stripes...i think they're shit, personally, but who the fuck cares? it's just a mailing list. 11) i have no firm stance on the war, really. my gut reaction is to say i am totally against it, yet i can respect and understand where people who are for it are coming from. if that makes me "suck" then so be it." Of which, I can personally say I fall into sections 1, 2, 3,6,7. I am neither pro or anti war, in public. Number 2 is also true for me too, cos I never voted for them. What with me being foreign and all, and not allowed to take part in other peoples elections. 3 is again, true, I did not pay membership and receive a free badge, secret code book and a monthly comic with occasional free mini plastic frisbee. 6 and 7 - no I didn't, they haven't been here to be elected, and you know, its the whole vote in the country in which you live, stuff, although maybe they should make it more open, just cos more people might vote if it was worldwide. 8 - who? I generally agree with number 9, with exception of Scotlands lovely bunch of politicians. Especially those conservatives. Always so polite and friendly and they remember my name and face, bless them. Mind you, I like the fact that the green political guy looks like Dr Who. Which is rather apt, seeing as there is a police box outside the parly office. I guess he parks it there in the mornings. I wonder what would happen if we had Dr Who running Scotland... would it look bigger on the outside than it was on the inside? Would our greatest terrorist threat be from extermination by daleks, in which case, all we have to do is build lots of steps everywhere. Which wouldn't be a bad thing, cos running up and down steps would get the people of scotland into some sort of shape. Plus, you know, the daleks would never visit the town of Stepps. Mind you, neither would I. Out of choice, its not my first holiday destination. But anyway, I am slightly degressing, and I think number 10 is really sad. I mean Stine's number 10, rather than the other number 10 where the BBC camps outside. I think that is sad. I remember, a while ago, a long long while ago, fairytale long while ago, I was having a rant (yes, really. A rant, can you believe it? heh. me. Of all people) about Kyoto agreements and such like, and making ridiculous suggestions about building giant B&Q (B&Q - Do It Yourself store that sells paint, fencing, spanners, etc) style fence round America and boycotting it. And people wrote me lots of rude e mails, some using the f word. Yes, Fencing. And I thought that was really sad. And I remember Neil Robertson getting grief for voicing an opinion on American politicians. The "OOH ESS EH!" mob didn't like it. Fair enough. I guess politics is one of those dangerous roads. You don't go down it unless you can be prepared to accept that voicing your opinion might not be appreciated by all. That is understandable. And there is all those ten commandments of not discussing P*l*t*cs and R*l*g**n on the list. WHich is also, fair enough, its there to stop us getting all het up, and we really should leave that to the professional tabloid media, and people who write letters to the Sunday Express. But at the same time, I don't think that voicing an opinion, whether it breaks rules, or not, is necessarily something people should be getting all angry about and sending rude emails telling the opinionator that their mother smells like wet fish (normal mother, not list mother) and their dad smells of elderberries and hamsters. I think that is sad. In terms of Stine knowing nothing, I don't know whether that is true or not. And neither do you. Disagreeing is fine, and sure, disagree. Disagree with me if you like. Come on. I can take ya. But don't be rude. Its a sad thing really, that to disagree, you have to make it into a personal assault. Disagee, but disagree with an iota of intelligence, otherwise the you're a hypocrite for saying the other person knows nothing, and you won't look big, or at all clever. I thought Mark Casarotto did an interesting job of showing us how to make a point, showing you can be big and clever. And I agree with him totally about voting. Not voting doesn't prove anything. You might make the "radical" assumption that you are somehow trying to bring chaos to the system, and a no-vote means that somewhere, somehow, you'll bring it all crashing down. You won't. If you have a political establishment, its not going to go away just because you don't vote. Even if lots of people don't vote together, it doesn't mean that it will stop existing. It won't. There will still be politicians. If it has been created, then its here to stay. Best just use your vote to the best of your own personal opinion and wisdom. Plus, if you don't vote, don't complain. I disagree with her thoughts on the White Stripes. I like them. And when she said "dirty vicar is officially the most amazing person on sinister!". Dirty Vicar? I'd have Ken Chu over Dirty Vicar anyday. Forgive me for making a comment that sounds like a popularity contest. But I'm not going to start sending her hate mail. I'm not taking a side here, I'm making a point. I'm saying this, but I'm trying to be careful at the same time, and not start dragging the list down into the gutters of stuff. Hopefully, List auntie will not reprimand me after class for saying this. End of sermon. ************************* IN HAPPIER NEWS!! Stacey asked us to write the thoughts we'd had on Mr Murdoch. I presume she meant Stuart, not Rupert, the media superemo, who makes money from tat and tit. I want to know what my reward is if I tell her. :) I guess he's rather funny looking, actually. He doesn't look like the average scottish bloke. ************************ Thankyou to Llew for clearing up the mystery of a cankle. I always just called it a leg. Cloche sounds like a silly word for an otherwise attractive hat. Carb Face and Atkins diets: there is somethin slightly worrying about any diet in my opinion that encourages someone to cut out certain foods from their diet. Malnutrion springs to mind, and as far as I'm concerned, all food stuffs have a purpose for our bodies. Beans make you smell; Brocoli is full of nutrients and such like, and chocolate gives you love. Hey, you can have two chocolate bars in a night and nobody thinks you're a slut. And if you have only one segment from a bar, nobody will call you a prick tease. Or cocoa tease, for that matter. My mum has a disease, of the genetic disorder kind. I should go get myself tested too, to see if I'm going to have to go through what she is going through. She has hemochromotosis, if thats the right spelling, which basically is too much iron in the body. If left too long, it can kill. Apparently, its the most common genetic disorder in North America, and very common in North Europeans. Another aspect of iron, as I understand from picking up bits of information, is that it feeds cancer cells. She has to get a pint of blood taken from her every week, over a period of a few months to help reduce her iron count. WHich is a bit icky, and I really don't fancy having it myself. I find it interesting, that so many commericals in the UK advertise cereals with having lots of iron in them, yet too much iron is a bad thing too. The good news is that green veg isn't very good for her. Chocolate and coffee is. very good for her. Mmm. ******************* Right. Nothing to do. love idles (your least favourite sinister person, and proud of it) xxx ===== http://retrosec.blogspot.com/ thoughts __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gasriot at xxx.com Fri Apr 4 01:31:06 2003 From: gasriot at xxx.com (starmine) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 16:31:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: I never fought in a war... Message-ID: <20030404003106.32854.qmail@web13103.mail.yahoo.com> I try to stay out of these conversations, i mean.... I don't like to be the springboard for conversations that make ppl angry or anything. I just think that, first of all, this anti-american sentiment is almost entirely deserved. I am an american, and i like where i live. I suppose its better than some places, worse than some others. It's hard for me to stand behind this war, though. I just don't see the right of it. Saddam may be a dictator and a tyrant, but what business is that of ours? As Jeanette Winterson said on her website, europe didn't step in when black americans were being lynched and burned in the earlier part of the 20th century. I know that's not the strongest argument for not getting involved, but it illustrates the fact that just because you can do something doesn't always mean you should. The north korean government is pretty bad too. are we going to bomb them next? I hope not. I think of my government as a bit of a schoolyard bully. A big, potbellied, red-knuckled ten-year-old. He knocks people down that he doesn't like. His little gang of friends would be like the majority of the american public; blindly following. I can't bring myself to hate GWB. I think that he's not fit to run the country. I think he's a barely literate orator, and i think that he pronounces too many words incorrectly to be allowed to drop bombs on people. I hate that we're not supposed to call them "french fries" anymore, but we should call them "freedom fries." I think that one statement sums up the entirety of my feelings for the war. Anyway, this is a bit longer than i meant it to be. Just understand that i'm very anti-war, i'm not anti-american (but i see why so many ppl are), and i don't know a whole lot about the white stripes. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From raskolnikoff_01 at xxx.com Fri Apr 4 00:39:32 2003 From: raskolnikoff_01 at xxx.com (Rask) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 00:39:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: we know something you don't know Message-ID: I know it sucks when lists such as this get over politicised and none of us should broach these highly sensitive issues for fear that our little community might implode, but things will be said and i want to add my 2 cents. Firstly i'd like to say that being anti-war does not mean that you are anti-American. There are plenty of very intelligent left wing thinkers who are american, Noam Chomsky is a favourite of mine. People should not mix hatred for a regime (the bush regime) with the kind of xenophobic rhetoric that seems to have become synonymous the much of the anti war movement. They are completely separate issues and should be left that way. It is just as sad to see some uneducated redneck kid dying fighting for a jingoistic world power like AmeriKka as it is to see and uneducated kid slaughtered in a market place in Baghdad. Its all so senseless and sad and every life lost is too many at the hands of these profiteering criminals who push buttons and give orders from their chairs. I think it was summed up beautifully by a great writer Arundhati Roy a couple of days ago in the guardian. http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,927849,00.html Also i think that people might ease up on Stine a bit i believe her comments were human and not political. *********************************************** i am really digging the new white stripes album. I just got f#a# infinity by the mighty godspeed you black emperor on vinyl with the pressed penny and the silk screen drawings, it is lurvly. My only complaint about it is the train sounds are different to the cd and really difficult to listen to. I was wondering can anyone recommend any acid mothers temple &melting par........ records, i have new geocentric world, but i just bought the one on alien8 records and it is awful. Its just all of the freakout stuff with none of the chilled refrains. richard*end of the land sadness/ end of the world gladness +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mayfly5502 at xxx.com Fri Apr 4 03:25:49 2003 From: Mayfly5502 at xxx.com (Mayfly5502 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 21:25:49 EST Subject: Sinister: Heartless Bastards... Message-ID: <113.215b89a2.2bbe472d@aol.com> Hi Everyone! I can't believe that someone would do such a thing as to tricking a family into thinking that they lost someone. That is just so rude...I don't know what this person was thinking. Obviously they weren't. They need to be punished for doing something so stupid! It's sad to think that there are heartless people like that out there. I don't really know much about politics..so I don't say much about it...I guess I'm better off. I bought the new White Stripes album the other night when I finally had money to spend on myself rather than all of my bills and rent. And I can say that I like it a whole lot. I think it's great. I have always liked them a "whole lot" so I guess it isn't so surprising. If anyone hasn't heard it then I suggest you either buy it or borrow it. :) Well..I guess that is all that's on my mind...until the next post...take care everyone. -Diane +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trixiefirecracker79 at xxx.com Fri Apr 4 06:43:46 2003 From: trixiefirecracker79 at xxx.com (trixie firecracker) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 00:43:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Parallel Picnicing on Sinister Saturday (MELBOURNE MEET-UP DETAILS) Message-ID: <20030404054346.811D13CC3@xmxpita.excite.com> Hello Sinister! Melbourne Meet-Up proper details finally for all you patient resident and visiting Melbourne Sinisters. I do believe you mostly all know this already, but there could always be some Mysterious Melbourne Massive Members who might just like to show up on Saturday. Please do, you're all most welcome! It will be fun! Yay! WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW There will be a Sinister Picnic this Saturday April 5. The weather is supposed to be fine, but the park chosen does have a rotunda just in case. Meet at 1.30pm Saturday (tomorrow!) on the steps of Flinders Street Station underneath the clocks. We will wander across the bridge to the Alexandra Gardens to find a suitable spot to place our rug(s). Bring food and drinks. And fun and games. And whatever else you like. Later on we might like to visit ACMI at Federation Square. We may even be able to find a comfy pub in which to drink. WHAT IF YOU DON'T KNOW? Problems? Questions? Lost? Frightened? Call 041 996 3367. Come along for a pleasant or amusingly carefree experience*. cakes & ale trixie * according to www.m-w.com _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Fri Apr 4 10:39:03 2003 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 10:39:03 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I am the queen of the eyesores (sic) Message-ID: <20030404093903.19571.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> The whole concept of Anti-Americanism worries me hugely. While countries like France (particularly at the moment), the UK, Germany, Japan etc. etc. labour under a certain amount of distrust and dislike from many people, it seems to me the only other countries where anti-ism is such an issue are the ones ruled by paranoid, tyrannical dictator types. Zimbabwe, maybe. Or Iraq? Certainly the witch-hunts against un-American Americans are on a different level to those poor fuckers who get caught in Iraq, but the psychology behind it is disturbingly similar. (NB, I completely love America and Americans, and I hope to live there one day. So maybe I'd better watch what I put in writing...) Christine's story about a family being tricked into thinking they'd lost a son is, I think, central to problems certain people have. The essence is this. In your posts, Christine, there is a tone that some people are picking up on which comes across devious, reactionary, passive-aggressively critical. This particular instance suggests to me that the anti-war movement uses obscene tactics against those who represent pro-war emotions (though I'd be willing to bet that family just want their son to come home). What annoyed me was you choosing this as the view you want to get across of the peace protesters, rather than focusing on the good, positive, self-sacrificing actions of so many. So Christine's parable could be viewed as a simple tale of "gosh, society these days, isn't it terrible?". Or it could be taken as above, intended or otherwise, which justifies confronting the issue. This isn't supposed to single out one individual for criticism. It IS, however, reasonable to respond to someone who makes controversial views public and is, I am assuming, keen to stimulate debate. Also, apologies for the tone of my last post, which I know was too snarky and personal. Right, I'm off to invade Paul Arathoon (and I mean that in a sexual sense). See you at the picnic! Mark xxx http://www.joannou.net/biondino __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Fri Apr 4 09:35:43 2003 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:35:43 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: Sinister: the littlest birds Message-ID: Dear WhiteStripes&War mailing list, Well lovies, this is my last day at work (and thus last day of reading Sinister regularly) for a while, so I'll just give a little wave. ~~~~~~ I'm quite excited about going bowling tomorrow. I haven't been bowling since I was at school, and I'm not sure how miraculous my technique will look next to those who have had ample chance to hone their skeelz (Ken and Carsmile by the sound of it). So don't laugh at me. Whenever I go to meet-ups, social butterfly that I am (well, moth anyway), I always feel a twinge about the listees who can't make it, especially the ones I've never met and probably never will. But I'll be thinking of you guys! (And it's good to know that some of you will be picnicing on the other side of the world this weekend too.) Life proceeds apace outside of the crazy world of Sinister. I am applying to do an MA this autumn, with a view to getting muhself an actual career. Ha! Despite all the wise words from the Girls with Glasses, I am still bizarrely drawn to public libraries. I think I may be bored of working with students; their quirks are so predictable. I want the completely random nutters again. Being engaged is still rather nice. I know we COULD get married next week if it came to it, but neither of us are particularly good at being spontaneous, and I have a crazy idea that I'd quite like some money to spend on a wedding (or at least the reception). So... that'll be 2007 then. First dance: Heaven of my Heart by Jim White; last dance: My Wandering Days Are Over. It's sad that Edwin Starr died. I'm going to play My Weakness Is You very loudly tonight and dance around the front room. (This despite the horrible discovery this morning that you can see straight into the upstairs window of the pub opposite, and presumably vice versa. How did I discover this? By coming face to face (or face to belly) with the naked upper torso of Dave the landlord as he opened the curtains...) I went to see The Be Good Tanyas a while ago. I love them, and also want to be them. Frazey Ford's way with hair and flowers is as dreamy as her voice. Other music I've been listening to: the Go-Betweens (gig on 28th woo!) and Shel Silverstein, who is completely MENTAL. I will never think of thumb-sucking in the same way again. (Do listen to Freakin at the Freaker's Ball someday, if you possibly can.) Is that everything? I fear it is. Oh, good luck with the piece Staceydahl! Happy Easter. love Archel PS. FWIW, I couldn't give a flying fuck about ANY of your relative political stances, which is probably a relief right? ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. Email submissions at buzzwords.ndo.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Fri Apr 4 08:43:24 2003 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 08:43:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: invade the white stripes Message-ID: I totally agree with the decision of GWB, Tony Blair and a cast of thousands (well...Poland and Spain anyway) to invade the White Stripes. They've been causing trouble in the Led Zep tribute band market for far too long and their new album clearly contravenes the UN resolution 353485 on bands without drummers. (see also Carter USM) What's more, anyone who buys the new album is clearly anti-american because they have brought it out on vinyl which is the devil's plaything because it is based on the seven circles of Hades. So let's get behind our boys in the record shops and invade. or something. --- I don't like short mails to the Sinister list but I'm short on time and short of patience. And I'm quite happy being a hypocrite. la la la. _________________________________________________________________ Overloaded with spam? With MSN 8, you can filter it out http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=32&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Fri Apr 4 09:42:08 2003 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:42:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: your ass required In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030404084208.88405.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> Dear Stacey, I would have no real friends if it wasn't for Belle & Sebastian. I would probably be going to Tiger Tiger after work with colleagues and standing in a corner crying into a large glass of gin instead. This is why Belle & Sebastian is my favourite band. Also, I like to see Stuart Murdoch playing football with his top off and have much enjoyed the transformation of Chris Geddes from corduroy boy into smooth trendster in fancy specs. Dear Sinister, My sources tell me that Belle & Sebastian had to start recording their album a bit late because George Michael was still fannying around finishing his latest LP. I guess it takes longer to move around the studio when you're dressed up in a PVC policeman's outfit. I am writing this message on David Moore's computer! Last night I slept in his son's bed! Son wasn't there, natch. Mr and Mrs Mooro have looked after me superbly and even gave me Coco Pops this morning. Today, we are going to a festival at a holiday camp called Pontin's, where we will see Public Enemy! I am particularly looking forward to seeing Flavor Flav on the go karts and Security of the First World playing DDR. Juicy Lucy ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ ************************************************** The Winchester Club http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Fri Apr 4 11:58:24 2003 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 11:58:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Parks and Ankles Message-ID: Hey there, What a beautiful morning today it is, and my mood is up already having seen the sun. Despite having loads of work to do today. Hence why I'm e-mailing sinister I suppose. I made myself a mix tape last night so I can listen to it on my way to work, I don't know why I don't do this more often, my mood is always good when I have music to listen to on the train - I didn't have to scamper and fight for a copy of the Metro any more. Why would I want to read about "woo we've captured an airport whoot go us! yeah baby" when I can listen to "It must be love" by Madness? (Disclaimer: the above story wasn't a social-agressive whatsit. Dunno what one of those are but I don't want to come across as having a propaganda against trains or something) I'm growing to love people a lot more than I used to, like, I seem to now understand people more, and how people who have different points of views can be both good and bad people. How what you believe in isn't what makes you a better or worse person, whether it's the "Right" belief or not. People who go bowling are generally good people, as are girls who wear sandles in parks, ankles are beautiful things. Hope to see some of you guys at bowling or in the park soon. Ken p.s. Retrosec said: "I'd have Ken Chu over Dirty Vicar anyday" Dirty Vicar seems like a nice guy, but I doubt if sex is on sorry retro.. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted in it are confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator at uclh.org. This footnote confirms that the email and attachments contained no viruses when they left UCLH. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From another_late_night at xxx.com Fri Apr 4 13:12:46 2003 From: another_late_night at xxx.com (Ian porter) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 13:12:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Whats all this talk of War? Its the Easter holidays Message-ID: Yo Sinister Young Team Krew Theres too much of this war going around, surely we can just agree to disagree. Actually, ignore that, that sounds like pish. Ahem, anyway. Im on holiday now, Im going to Majorca for a week, it will be nice, I'm determined to make it nice. It means I miss out on a party of my friend's though, which is a bad thing, becuase its Jones, and Jones is great. When I get back, I'll have to start proper revision for my exams, that is also a bad thing. But I keep thinking of how GREAT it will be when they're over, I mean, I'll be a SIXTH YEAR! I can just sit around eating biscuits all day, or whatever they do. I've taken adv. higher art though, so I will have some work to do, but it will be work that I want to do, not like Maths, which I wont be taking further. THat'll be strange though, like not having to go to these subjects thatI've had to go to almost daily for like, the last 5 years. I took spanish as well Ole! Someone said the verbs are just like French ones, which should be ok then. A really pointless post, but, erm, Sorry. Ian _________________________________________________________________ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Fri Apr 4 12:56:40 2003 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 11:56:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I don't want to play football Message-ID: Hello Sinister. Perhaps more controversially than ever, Mark said: >>So, who's enjoying CM4 then? Well, me actually (http://www.sigames.com, for the uninitiated). I�m still getting into it but... Perhaps we should set up a SiniCM4 yahoogroup to discuss tactics... <--severe nerd alert. Sorry. Furthermore, it seems that Sinister Fitba is taking over the world, as on starting up my CM4 game with Arsenal, I noticed that one of my scouts is none other than Sinister�s favourite wandering star, Peter Miller. Combine that with one Stuart Murdoch on the staff at Wimbledon FC, and it�s clear that B&S *do* want to play football after all. Perhaps we could use them on Sunday for the Bowlie game. I don�t really want to talk about the war, and I�m not much of a fan of the White Stripes. I mean, they�re okay, but I�m not a huge fan. I�ve been listening to a lot of Ben Folds Five and Burt Bacharach recently � they float my boat. And the Beach Boys, up to and including Pet Sounds... beautiful harmonies... I'm really looking forward to this weekend, actually... Bowling... drinking... fitba... it should be good. Right then, I�m off out to buy a Rooney England kit. See you at the weekend Sinister. Love Asm.x ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/mobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Fri Apr 4 12:26:57 2003 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 12:26:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: 10 Roddington Place Message-ID: <20030404112657.22929.qmail@web10403.mail.yahoo.com> Hello again Sinister. One amazing thing about this list is that there are dozens of wonderful people who sadly never seem to post on Sinister any more, but none of them forget how much love they had for it at the time when they were most active. Last night, I was out with 9 other sinisterines, and I think only Dappers and myself actually still post out of all of us. Which is such a shame, as among the number were three or four of the most hilarious, impassioned, fascinating people ever to wear an upside down B&S badge. I'd love to think this kind of brown-nosing might get them to post again, but I'm not counting my chickens. I'm even happy to be the conduit, if you're no longer subscribed... Is Henry Thomas still on the list? It's gone midday, the sun's shining, and I haven't moved from my desk since I got up. Can 29-year-olds get bedsores? And if so, would I need to be prescribed maggots? I'm going to join my public library later today, spurred by Archel's carer choice and my own recent rediscovery of boox. On the train yesterday I was happily reading my "Mansfield Park" when a muttering, tattooed gentleman with a can of Special Brew got on and sat next to me. Turned out he was a reader too! Of "Bronson" (the biography of Britain's most psychotic prisoner), admittedly, but it was heart-warming to know that we both shared a love of the written word. I could've hugged him! So, who's enjoying CM4 then? Toodleoo, Mark xxx http://www.joannou.net/biondino __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Fri Apr 4 14:45:52 2003 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 14:45:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: sometimes there's no poison like a dream Message-ID: <20030404134552.40699.qmail@web14403.mail.yahoo.com> top of the what-not sinistereenies. Why don't you come and play with the sinistereenies? Have you noticed Doodles from the tweenies sounds exactly like Scooby Doo? I suppose he is a dog though - what do you expect? But what breed of dog is scooby doo? A bag of marbles to the first correct answer who can swear on Tigermilk that they didn'tt cheat and look it up on google (or any other search engine ya devious chuffers) And as for this war thingy - I think I (as officially the hardest and most well endowed person on the list) am going to draw a line under it. Suffice to say that I don't think anyone on here is being anti-american. America is brills and has brought us, oooh, the simpsons, Charles Bukowski (sort of - he's German really), a bloody big canyon, the pixies, loads of cool authours, film makers and artists, Electric Jimi man, "walk on the wildside", gallons more excellent bands and on. I think the thing a lot of people get upset about is american foreign policy, which I'm sure even the americans on here will agree has been a bit piss-poor for the past fifty years. And that's it - anything else and i'll kick you in the shins. really hard too. News from the dean front - got drunk, I passed my masters (i wanted to be a master of the universe but they wouldn't let me, grrrr), and I plan to get drunk over the weekend too. Oh and watch the Grand National - any tips from the sinister gambling ring? CM4 is pretty good but not as good as I'd hoped. I'm leading the mighty Elgin City to European glory and have snapped up Claudio Caniggia. As if! I decree today that I'm coming to the next picnic (after this one - getting drunk - see above) wherever it is. Melbourne or Perth posse, arrange a picnic in a couple of weeks just to annoy me and prove me a dirty liar. Oh and thanks in advance for not ruthlessly mentioning the cricket over the last, well, um, twenty odd years. Whoever mentioned Cat Power - I concur heartily. I also got Har Mar Superstar which is A Bit Different but still good. There's a frankly alarming picture of him in his keks inside though. I warn any of my more sensitive sinister colleagues to avoid like the proverbial. Speaking of Masters of the Universe, why on earth was Skeletor really muscly? He was a twatting Skeleton!! Could never figure out how he moved, saw and spoke too - anyone fill me in? He was blatantly gay too. Gay as a hat that lad - still.... Couldn't believe glasto sold out in 24 hours - gutted! Looks like reading/leeds or t in the park for us! Either that or Finland. I hear it's good and I can say "cheers" "go on my Finnish son" and "suck my dick" in Finnish, thanks to my informal teacher and ex-drinking buddy Teemu. How many Freudians does it take to change a lightbulb? two, one to change the bulb and one to hold the penis. I mean ladder. Enough I think. And no stuffing copies of the radio times down your socks and wittering on about cluster bombs and oil d'ya hear? I've got my big boots on! Dean XX __________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MRissbrook at xxx.com Fri Apr 4 17:11:13 2003 From: MRissbrook at xxx.com (MRissbrook at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 11:11:13 -0500 Subject: Sinister: A little bit of Sinister history... Message-ID: <59AFB1B4.50A43EC5.0B7ED01B@aol.com> Hello again. I liked Mark Castrato's posting about "old" Sinisterines, and he is dead right in saying that they were some of the funniest people you could meet. I work in Manchester, and yesterday had lunch in the "Square Albert," a pub opposite the Town Hall, scene of the Xmas 1997 (or was it 98? I am old and my memory's a failing!) B&S shows, and twas in the Square Albert that I attended my first large scale Sinister meet up. In fact, it may well have been one of the first ever big Sinister meet ups. So what has happened to the "old" gang? If I wasn't so fucking hopeless at keeping in touch with people I'd probably have a better idea, obviously, but I'd love to hear from Tag, JJ, rachel, Keith, Chris etc etc etc again. By the way I'm claiming the credit for being the first to call Stu Gardiner "Tall Stu", or "Tall Git" as I believe I called him, as I had the dubious privilege of standing behind him at the three Town Hall gigs. I am 6'2", and still couldn't see anything due to the sheer freakishness of his height. He belongs in a circus! One change I have noticed in this board over the years is that there seems to be less debate now. I'd rather read a few short posts, than one long self important one. But then I have the attention span of a gnat, and a prepensity to gossip. Yours Martin Rissbrook +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Fri Apr 4 17:37:58 2003 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 16:37:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: illicit rock'n'roll Message-ID: Hello Sinister. Two posts in nearly as many hours? I know, it's not what Cliff would have done... But I've had a couple of thoughts since then which seemed quite apt. I'm doing work experience at the moment at Universal Records, based just off Picadilly Circus. It's good fun. I tend to have lunch in Soho Square, because it's nice to spot the hipsters and art students making their way across town. It's quite a sport actually. What I've noticed, however, is that when walking through Soho, you either get offered sex or drugs. No illicit rock'n'roll to be found; just sex and drugs. I tend to get offered drugs, but never sex. I wonder if this says anything about me. D'you think that some people get offered sex but no drugs? Is there a code, d'you think? It sounds strange but it really interests me; d'you think the pimps and the pushers and all the rest of it look down the narrow streets of Soho and think "That bloke needs a fix", or "That bloke needs a shag"? And what of the people who get offered everything? They must look really needy. Or rich. Or both. I'm sorry Sinister, it just interests me, that's all. I spent my lunch hour trying to track down a Rooney England shirt. I'd probably have had more luck trying to find an original Tigermilk (note content). It seems that everywhere has run out of the right letters to go on the back of shirts; apparently because of Beckham and Owen, Es and Ns are not easy to come by. Now there that's something I bet you didn't know... Wanna buy some weed? love Asm.x ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/mobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Fri Apr 4 17:32:12 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 08:32:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: raindrops on roses and whispers on kittens Message-ID: <20030404163212.11413.qmail@web40611.mail.yahoo.com> Hi lovelies, how ya doin? I'm doing alright. After spending an hour at my doctor's office and another 2 hours at the hospital last night, I got word that I have apparently gone and gotten my lung infected. How I managed this I am not quite sure. My doctor was pretty horrified to hear that I had gone 10 days with a fever and not gone to her office sooner. It's funny about doctors in the US, they yell at you for not going to see them sooner, yet, they won't give you a deal on their cost if they know you have no money. I feel especially sorry for those with children. Kids have nothing to do with the situations they are born into, they shouldn't have to go without basic healthcare, simply because of a lack of insurance. that is just not right. i read in the chicago tribune last week that 40% of americans are sans healthcare. that just doesn't seem right. Granted, I believe it, It just seems assenine that in a country with the wealth of the US, people have to go without anything. I feel that I must address this onlist, one last time, and then never again. I am sorry that my comments in recent days have caused conflict on the list. That is not to say that I am sorry for saying those things, I am just sorry that it has had negative effect on list. For that I am sorry. i'm not a fan of the sound of music really. in all fairness, i have not seen it in years, perhaps i would like it now. i remember when i was 11 or so i found a Staci Q album (yes, album) that had a song called "A Few of my Favorite Things" or maybe just "My Favorite Things" anyway, It struck me as odd that she would be singing that song. i was expecting the one from The Sound of Music. It, of course, was not the same version, but a rather weird 80's techno-dance queen-cum-pop star version of the original. i can't recall the lyrics, something about BMW's and champagne. weird. do you remember staci q? "two of hearts, two hearts that beat as one. two of hearts, come on, come one." good stuff :o) ah well. the weekend should be nice. class all day tomorrow, then my niece's first birthday party. of course, my doctor advised that i stay in and sleep all weekend. that isn't really an option, besides, she'll never know. mu hahaha. anyway, have a lovely weekend everyone. love ~stine __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Fri Apr 4 18:05:57 2003 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (ianwatsonuk at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 18:05:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Parallel Picnicing on Sinister Saturday (MELBOURNE MEET-UP DETAILS) Message-ID: <5496826.1049475957810.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Oh. Meeting on the steps of Flinders Street station. That is the most romantic and heartbreaking thing I´ve read in a long while. Somehow Finsbury Park tube just doesn´t compare. I´m away this weekend, but have fun everyone. I wish I was back in Melbourne. One of my favourite ink polaroids was taken there. It involves running for the tram (!) during an electrical storm (!!) leaving a beautiful old church (!!!) where Sodastream had just played (!!!!). Under the clocks, as well. Rub it in, why don´t you. > from: trixie firecracker > date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 06:43:46 > to: sinister at missprint.org > subject: Re: Sinister: Parallel Picnicing on Sinister Saturday (MELBOURNE MEET-UP DETAILS) > > > Hello Sinister! > > Melbourne Meet-Up proper details finally for all you patient resident and visiting Melbourne Sinisters. I do believe you mostly all know this already, but there could always be some Mysterious Melbourne Massive Members who might just like to show up on Saturday. Please do, you're all most welcome! It will be fun! Yay! > > WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW > There will be a Sinister Picnic this Saturday April 5. The weather is supposed to be fine, but the park chosen does have a rotunda just in case. > > Meet at 1.30pm Saturday (tomorrow!) on the steps of Flinders Street Station underneath the clocks. > We will wander across the bridge to the Alexandra Gardens to find a suitable spot to place our rug(s). > > Bring food and drinks. And fun and games. And whatever else you like. > > Later on we might like to visit ACMI at Federation Square. We may even be able to find a comfy pub in which to drink. > > WHAT IF YOU DON'T KNOW? > Problems? Questions? Lost? Frightened? Call 041 996 3367. > > Come along for a pleasant or amusingly carefree experience*. > > cakes & ale > trixie > > * according to www.m-w.com > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list --- > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zoziepop at xxx.com Fri Apr 4 20:38:22 2003 From: zoziepop at xxx.com (Dimitra Daisy) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 22:38:22 +0300 Subject: Sinister: Love Letters Message-ID: Dear Stacey and everyone else, Much like Lucy, I, too, wouldn't have any real friends if it wasn't for Sinister. The friends I made on it are the sort I've always dreamt of having but never had. Oh, I tried, but it never worked. Do you know the Television Personalities song Smashing Time? I had dreamt of days like the ones described in it even before I heard it, which was before I joined Sinister; my friends at the time never seemed to have the time or the will to do simple, silly things with style, love and a bit of happiness. Sinister is where I found them. I also love Sinister for: - All the things it ever gave me: great friends, places to travel to, the best birthday party ever and Ken! Who made me dance on said party and to whom I am forever grateful. - The inspiration it often gives me. Sometimes by simply sending a great piece of writing to my inbox. - Picnics! And clubnights! They are great fun. - The fact that I think it takes a lot of people who live in their own worlds and puts them together. I honestly think that: I think almost everyone on the list would stick out in a crowd one way or another. - The fact that, much as it's not perfect as I used to think it is, it is still better than the rest of the world, kinder, more understanding and loving and well-meaning, and it makes wonderful things happen. As for Belle and Sebastian... I liked them long before I joined Sinister, so I must had other reasons. 1999 seems like a long, long time ago but I'll try to remember, just for you. At first, I liked their name. Then, I liked Stuart's voice... and the fact that you can sing along to them (although I can only do it badly). When I started getting addicted to them, I liked their pop-ness and their insightfull lyrics. Stuart's writing is like opening a window to a place people usually neglect to look, I just loved that. I loved his voice, his innocence and kindness and the way he said 'oh love of mine, would you condescent to help me cause I'm stupid and blind'. And the fact that he bothered to say it. Oh if everyone was a little like that... Love, of all sorts, Dimitra Daisy xx ~~~~~ And the children stayed children, and they lived in their dreams. http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk/ _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Sat Apr 5 10:08:17 2003 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 10:08:17 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Mr Leonard, Mr Chris Leonard to a white courtesy telephone please Message-ID: <20030405090817.17138.qmail@web10411.mail.yahoo.com> Sam, do you own an England shirt with the names of every talented young prospect on the back? I can just imagine the youthful, shining happiness in your eyes as you queued up for that must-have Andy Sinton number back in '93... (p.s. I'm doing quite well with Torquay. They haven't announced the AFC Wimbledon cheat yet) What ho, Sinister. I must say I hadn't actually expected my exhortations to the pensioners brigade to have any results, but Risso, I salute you. And identify with you about the Big Stu incident. Stu, in school photos you're put at the back for a reason - surely it tranlsates directly to gigs as well? The Sinister picnice (sic - unintentional, but strangely apposite, so I'll leave it) weekend is upon us. Presumably the Australians are already tanked up and in the final stages of mutual seduction by now, and I'm looking forward to hearing all about it. As for London, well, IT'S NOT TOO LATE to decide to go. It's your duty, really. And it's a lovely weekend. It'd be a shame to stay inside. Fondly awaiting the return of Steady Mike, or Keith, or Susannah, Mark xxx http://www.joannou.net/biondino __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Sat Apr 5 02:07:09 2003 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 02:07:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: LIKE A CATERPILLAR IN A COCOON, I'M GONNA HOLD MY BREATH AND MAKE...BELIEVE...I'M DEAD Message-ID: <20030405010709.57477.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> I find myself content in life but not the living of it I find myself satisfied to be alive if thats putting it a little strongly alive live lives live life its difficult talking to a friend this evening I said that it seems my goal in life is to reach a point where I can stay in bed all the time he asked about achievement I said I really believed that I used to yearn for he said I can't have lost it already and I said it definitely felt like I have I have it too easy and that makes me want it even easier is the problem I realise make it hard for me I cant seem to do it myself shut up I feel like daniel quinn having trained myself to sleep and wake for fifteen minutes intervals except mine are fifteen hour intervals Ive forgotten why or even if I actually thought it was the best way to work Ive forgotten why or even if I actually came here what I was supposed to be doing one day I'll realise what it was and that it is no longer possible and give up like beyond this given up or maybe I wont maybe I havent actually given up maybe Ive just stopped pushing ahead for this while I just need a new start not a head start not a start somewhere else just a start I need to create one I thought Id have a start last week I had a surprise but no start I need a start and no surprise every week I think that maybe I can start next week and its just week week week week week I am so weak and of course it is no ones fault but mine for letting myself slip to begin with from making the choices that led me to be able to let myself be able to slip it has been a while which makes it more difficult but that too is my fault I need to make a decision a point and stick and begin begin again to work I find myself content in life. but not the living of it. I need, at least, happiness in life and contentment in its living. and, perhaps, I can get them from just beginning to live. properly. OK. - we are so glad I hate the idea of weblogs. - last month: happy birthday carey, happy birthday kate, happy birthday dimitra. this month: happy birthday lucy. - I promise to post something properly stupid if not contentious next time. love, richard xx __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Mon Apr 7 00:54:31 2003 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 23:54:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A ticket to ride Message-ID: Hello Sinister. Reporting Back has never been a great fort� of mine, but I'll give it a bash. Practice makes... and all that. More literary list luminaries can show me up later in the week, but for the time being this is my take. The Saturday: There was bowling and drinking. More of the latter, in most people's cases, although the Brighton contingent appeared quietly abstemious when it came to BOUZE. Casarotto will no doubt thank me for pointing out his bowling supremacy, as he demonstrated his rolling skeez in both games, proving wrong the pundits who only had Chu down for the title. However, drinking awards must go to the boy Devaney and also to Carsmile for their gargantuan efforts at the bar. Drifting in and out of conversation was geezaesthetics, diletantism vs fanaticism (or was it fatalism? Futurism?), the London Bootleg Choir, D*v*d K*tch*n and ILE/x/M. Buses were caught, trains were run for, chips bought, all in a north London beery haze. The Sunday: There was footballing and drinking. A picnic of sorts took place too. There was much to complain about in the meteorological department, and indeed much was complained about. Chu was chastised for organising the indoor part of the weekend during sunny times and the outdoor part during greyness. He argued that "you can plan a pretty picnic, but you can't predict the weather", which was fair enough, really. When people could stand the cold no longer, and when Casarotto and the B*wl*e K*ds turned up, there was football. The Pinefox reminisced over sunnier times of Ally96 scoring the greatest ever Sinister goal, and the "result of the decade" against ILE this time last year. Teams were made, and Sinister ruled the roost, seemingly unphased by the no-show of such previous wunderkids as Bapps, Trousers and Jim Purple. A commanding lead was soon gained, and although the Bowlie Kids put up a brave fight, Hollywood balls from Daf and brute strength from Mark "Chopper" Casarotto, amongst others, thumped home the 4-2 Sinivictory. As the sun came out, people sloped off to the pub, grumbling something about Ken and the weather. Conversations drifted around the topics of Guns & Roses, Casarotto's pulling technique, cheap haircuts and cheaper pints. I wussed out and flaked out. Finding it difficult to keep my eyes open, I made my apologies and disappeared back to London's trendy North London, where I discovered that they're re-running This Life on BBC2. Again. I watched it and remembered Britpop, and this is definitely A Good Thing. She's got a ticket to ride, and she don't mug yourself. love Asm.x ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MRissbrook at xxx.com Mon Apr 7 00:33:51 2003 From: MRissbrook at xxx.com (MRissbrook at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 19:33:51 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Weekend stuff Message-ID: <0DBCD527.3019A8BC.0B7ED01B@aol.com> Just a quick non important post to list some of the....Things I Liked This Weekend: - Another day without rain in Manchester, surely some sort of record - Pubs that show Premiership football via dodgy Scandinavian satellite stations - an unexpected blessing - Being able to post on Sinister without my messages being bounced back to me - Buying lots of nice cheap records in Picadilly Records - Seeing Witness at the Pier in Wigan. Not one of my favourite bands, but as a homecoming gig the atmosphere was marvellous, and the support band Amberwood were quite good. Hope the rest of you had a nice weekend too Risso +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Mon Apr 7 16:11:20 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 08:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I'm not crazy I'm just a little unwell Message-ID: <20030407151120.13752.qmail@web40610.mail.yahoo.com> Ya know, I wouldn't call myself a fan of Matchbox 20, but I love their new single. It reminds me of me. "I'm not crazy I'm just a little unwell. I know, right now you can't tell. but hang around and maybe then you'll see, how I used to be." i feel that i have changed so much in the past few months. i also feel as though i am completely losing my mind most of the time. This weekend was relatively uneventful. i ended up not going to class on saturday as per my doctor's orders and, more importantly, my grandmother's orders. i did go to my niece's first birthday party, which was nice i guess. it's funny, i don't really know those siblings very well. they grew up together, with their mother, and i was raised by my grandparents. my sister jill and i got close some years ago when our father sent us to florida together to visit him. as for michele, who is my eldest sister, she always resented me in many ways. largely because i got more from my father than she ever did. it's ironic that last year she came around, and invited me to spend christmas eve with them and participate in what had always been "their" tradition. within a few hours, our father was dead. weird. another moment of note took place when gram and i were driving to the party. i started crying again and telling her that i just can't deal with my life anymore. something you should know, my grandmother has the most unbelievable faith of anyone i have ever known. when i was done she said "you can't be so negative about things. negativity effects your health." i told her that i tried not to be but lately i just can't help it. i told her that my life was totally unravelling and, for someone as "type a" as i am, that is enough to drive me to the brink of insanity. i am all about order and organisiation and have neither anymore. she told me that i needed to quit worrying so much, just have faith and God will take care of me. i informed her that, up to now, he has done a pretty crappy job. with that she got a bit miffed and said that He had not, I just wasn't aware of it yet. she said that i just need to believe that He will take care of me, and it will happen. i wish i chould have faith like that, i really do. it's just so hard to believe so strongly in something that can't be proven. i do believe in God, but i think it is mostly because i like to think that there is a better place than this awful world of ours. i like the idea that someone knows why all of these horrible things happen to everyone, someone who is guiding us through it all and protecting us. i dunno. now i'm just babbling. i was thinking about going to confession. i don't really believe in confession. who is some preist to tell me that God forgives me, shouldn't that be between God and I? i haven't gone to confession since.....well...since i made my confirmation when i was 13. that is 12, almost 13 years of unabsolved sins...maybe that's where i went wrong. :o) seriously though, i don't believe in it, but what if I am wrong? it certainly can't hurt. enough about religion. oi. yesterday i lay in bed all day, sleeping off and on. also watched a slew of movies: All That Heaven Allows, which I liked The Naked Kiss, which I liked Kermit, the early swamp years :o) Office Space, a staple (no pun intended :o) some russian movie that i fell asleep during...didn't care to re-watch it pretty woman the improtance of being ernest...old version and new...i love them both bridget jones' diary....still like the book more, but still watch the movie quite a bit. have developed mad crush on colin firth :o) i think i watched some others...oh yeah.... from a whisper to a scream, but i watch that all of the time. :o) ah well. enough rambling. time to go and rest my lung. love and snow plows (very snowy in chicaogish :o( ) ~stine __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elle_jane1 at xxx.uk Mon Apr 7 19:10:06 2003 From: elle_jane1 at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Ellebelle?=) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:10:06 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The first great bowling/picnic weekender of 2003: REPORTING BACK Message-ID: <20030407181006.41411.qmail@web12908.mail.yahoo.com> ok. working on the basis you can never have too much REPORTING BACK here goes: The first great bowling/picnic weekender of 2003: REPORTING BACK Sun, smiles, more sun more smiles and some cheers when Lord Ken finally decides to turn up to the big Sinistravaganza outside the illustrious Rowans bowling emporium. We said hello, we talked a bit and then we waited for Mr C to stop talking to 'she was my boss, but now she's my friend'. Into Rowans, out of the glorious sunshine (why?) to start the serious business of the day: getting the drinks in. All was going nicely, the entire Surrey Sinister Massive were enjoying their first gathering, the love hearts were being passed round (sweets, if these are not available to overseas Sinisters), when Mark decided to announce to the assembled masses that i was, indeed, the only single girl there. Thanks for that, Mr C. Not that i'm complaining, i much prefer all charming young men to know that fact, it was just, how do i put this, a little unsubtle. so we went to start bowling. I'm not very good at all things game-like and must apologise to Daf for taking one of his turns (i didn't know that if you get them all down you don't get your second turn). I don't think it made much difference though (I recommend taking Daf to all bowling outings as he will make everyone look expert). there was a lovely pink bowling ball though, it looked really nice when going down the lane/gutter, and that's what matters, really. for the second game we split into leagues so i can't tell you about the competitive action the other side of the hall. in fact i can't even tell you who won the game i was in, though i'm sure it was Eric (three strikes in a row, you know). i (being a popular sort of girl and greatly in demand at social functions) had to run away at this point so i'll leave it to other Sinis to tell you about the rest of the Saturday. ******************* Sunday. 2pm. "Meet outside the cinema at 2pm." they'd said. "We'll be there!" they'd assured me. Ha. Good job i had a book. Sunday. It was cold, very cold and i'd forgotten my hat. i contemplated returning home but decided to give them a chance. Good job i did. Straggles of Sinisters started arriving. No-one looked quite as chirpy as they had on the Saturday. Murmers of beer and even more beer reached my almost frozen ears as delegations went off to Sainsbury's to top up the alcohol level. Loaded with wine, beer and vodka we then stocked up with twiglets and crisps, checked the football and started off to the top of the hill. i can't write much about the actual picnic or football as i was drifting in and out of hypothermia during my time there. A few high/lowlights. *BigStu might nearly be a doctor but he needs some eating lessons. or just to learn to locate his mouth when eating. *Liz makes fab cheese scones and chocy cup cakes (yum) *Archel hides her vibrating phone deep inside her clothing *Marc C takes dirty pants picnicing with him *The Pinefox gets upset when "there just isn't any bread" and makes tuna sandwiches with cheese scones *Stephano plays football with half a bottle of wine in his hand. i think that sums it up. The pub was good. it was warm. i thawed out and ran away before any of the sweaty people turned up. thanks to Lord Ken for arranging this weekend. i laughed lots. we even talked about Belle and Sebastian sometimes... Miss Lucy xxx __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brasure at xxx.uk Mon Apr 7 20:46:25 2003 From: e.brasure at xxx.uk (Eric Brasure) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 20:46:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: More Reporting Back? Yes please. Message-ID: <001501c2fd3e$5fd88420$73bede8b@joshua> Dearest Sinister, Yes, I was one of the masses of twee folk (ha!) that descended to two corners of London to drink, bowl, drink, drink, eat, drink, picnic, play footie (though I didn't, as I am an American, plus I don't believe in physical activity, dontchaknow), and oh yes, drink. As I lately have the attention span of a two-year old hopped up on pixie sticks, I'll list the more interesting happenings in bullet-point style: -Bowling commenced after a wait that Ken tried to live down by encouraging us all to drink. Mark C. was the overall champ, I think, but in my second game I got three strikes in a row and promptly had an aneurysm. -We then retreated to a local pub, where we all engaged in drunken merriment. I don't remember much of what was said, but we had great fun enjoying the local band of RIOT GRRLS decked out in sexy leather and rocking so hard they made my glasses fly off. -Kieran, Big Stu, Ken and I then retreated back to his posh flat to sleep our drunken states off. Ken's flat is so posh it has a chandelier with a dimmer switch. I highly recommend you stay at the Chu Bed and Breakfast during your next trip to London. -Sunday we commenced picnicking, but it was So Cold we rather quickly retreated to a pub. Some crazy straight boys played football, with Lucy, Kieran, and I the cheering squad for the Sinister team. We left pretty quickly though, as I believe it was warmer in Antarctica. The weekend ended with more drinking, surprisingly enough. All in all, a great time was had. Can I expect another one in June? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Tue Apr 8 11:12:40 2003 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:12:40 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: only yesterday Message-ID: <20030408101240.77729.qmail@web10409.mail.yahoo.com> This may be hopelessly, optimistic, but does anyone sinister have a spare standing ticket for the May 17th Glasgow gig? I'd be extremely grateful - please email me off list if you can help me out. And now, to justify this post... I dreamt I was in The Good Life (US: Good Neighbors) last night, though it invoved a lot of driving down country lanes in a white sports car and hanging around in Austen-style country houses. Both of which suited me, but oy vey! they must've got cold in the olden days. The Sinister weekend was a staggering success. Cheers Ken! Keep your eyes peeled for the next picnic, to be announced shortly. Also, single females - there was quite an overload of hott young available men at this picnic, so throw on your cute summer dresses and get yourselves down to the next one... Has anyone actually taken Struan's advice and got hold of any Yes records? I am dubious to say the least, but feel free to prove me wrong... I won't last a day without you, Mark xxx http://www.joannou.net/biondino __________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From retrosec at xxx.uk Tue Apr 8 20:50:09 2003 From: retrosec at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Retro^Sec?=) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 20:50:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: get out of the sunshine, and into the city Message-ID: <20030408195009.42046.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> Somewhere in my mind, I have this one little day dream, that seems to help me through the daily grind and toil of work. It's one of those daydreams that you have kept stored in your head, and it gets you through. Becuase when things start to get too much, you can retreat there, and think "well, this can be hell now, but I'll get what I really deserve soon". Its rather soothing. My daydreams can be wonderful places to live, although occasionally they get too carried away, and I have to remember that I am not really an anonymous eccentric millionaire who gives to the needy, and is secretly hoarding away millions of pounds and could easily jack the job in - and I'm not doing it just to give me something to do. Alas, I'm not there yet. Sometimes, my dreams are tragic, and I'll end up in tears at my own imaginary life. But it gets me through the day. The days have indeed been getting longer, since autumn. They drag on, and I'm not particularly enjoying them at the moment. In a way, it reminds me of those skipping rope games at school. I was inevitably, shit at them. The one where two people hold the rope and whip it round and you have to jump into the middle. I could only do arcs, not full circles. I would wait too long, moving in rythmn to the rope whipping the playground tarmac, before hestitating and then stumbling into the middle. Inevitably, the rope would get caught around a stray ankle of mine. I feel like that now. I'm waiting for the rythmn of the rope, I'm waiting to get the timing right, and again, I'm trying to avoid getting tangled up in a mess because I rushed in at the wrong moment becuase I felt I had to. My friend was telling me the other day, about a summer in Spain. She would sleep on the beach, or somewhere in the woods under the stars, and occasionally stop at a campsite to freshen up. The perfect idylic bohemian summer. That sort of thing never appealed to me particularly. Maybe when I was 15, it appealed, partly spurred on by reading too much Just 17 about getting a sunkissed beach babe look without make up. But back then, in m imagination, there were no bitey insects, or bad hair days, my thighs were thin (thinner than they were even at 15) and I had a warm sunkissed make up beach babe glow. And Johnny Depp was on the beach with me. The truth is, I still look like I've appeared from a sleepness night in the morgue. I did then, and I do now. The sort of thing that appealed to me in later years, was the idea of cosmopolitian cities, those gorgeous street cafes in France with cobbles and flowers dripping from every window and terrace and balcony. And cafes, with chocolate cakes, that were decorated with intricate laces of chocolate, and sprinkles of icing sugar and drizzles of raspberry syrup. Wandering around streets in towns and cities. But when my friend told me about her holiday, I became aware that was something I quite liked the idea of. Bitey insects and everything. Getting so filthy, so disgustingly dirty, having greasy knotted hair, and the scent of sea water, suntan lotion and sweat stuck to my skin. My clothes hanging off me in only the way that crumpled lazy cotton t shirts can, rather than crisp white shirts with collars and cuffs. The idea of getting disgustingly dirty, and yet not giving a damn about it. And then going for a shower, and feeling every drop of water like it is the very first. The sheer feeling of cleanliness after days of filth. I felt like that once, a few years ago. I'd returned from a hot sticky weekend at T In The Park. I hadn't washed for days, I'd tucked my wild hair under a headscarf, wiped my face with baby wipes and applied deodorant as liberally as possible every morning. And Mark and I went home to his house, the car windows rolled down along the motorway to try and get some air into the oven of the car. And his mum had run a bath for me. Sinking into that bath was one of the best baths I'd ever had. It was certainly the most relaxing, the most refreshing, and the most peaceful. Now with my nine-to-five, sitting in the office, getting hot when the sun shines on my back, and my eyes getting lazy and tired from the glare of the computer monitor and the cold persistant blaze of the electric strip of light above me -trying to overpower the light of the sun- and I'm sitting there typing in stupid meaningless words into a screen. I'm sitting there, and I realise how much of the world is ruled by numbers and digits - time; currency; files; size; everything is determined, somehow, by a meaningless series of digits. And words, words that won't mean anything to anyone in 100 years time. Yet I sit there doing this to make things run efficiently. It doesn't make me feel as good as it used to. I don't feel as appreciated as I was. I feel that something has slipped, and all the time, its pulling me along with it. There was a cartoon strip in the Metro newspaper a few weeks ago. It had all of these people wandering towards the grey concrete city, and one guy turning round saying "hey! we're going the wrong way!". In the other direction, there was sunshine, and trees, and flowers and parks. And that is how I feel. I keep walking away from the sunshine. I keep walking towards the merciless world, every morning. Maybe for a day or two, I could walk away, towards the sunshine. But I doubt it would last long. Those numbers, that little issue of money, would come back sooner or later, and I'd have to do something about it. I'd have to earn some again, so I could buy food and gain accomodation, and travel, and generally live. I'm taking a few days off soon, and I'm going off to see my boyfriend, down south. And I am looking forward to it, not only to see him, but to indulge in a few days of escapism. It might not be a beach in Spain, or an exotic beach, but it is just far away enough from the world I see every day. And thats why I keep dreaming about the effortless millions, where I can do what I like becuase I have that luxury. Yours dreamily, idleberry x ===== http://retrosec.blogspot.com/ thoughts __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Tue Apr 8 22:22:30 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:22:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sand in my hair, in my shoes, on my brain Message-ID: Dear all I was in the supermarket tonight and two girls were arguing over what date it was. One said it was the sixth, pointing a banana, and the other said it was the seventh, waving a mango threateningly. I stepped into the afray with the calming words that it was actually the *eighth*, and the situation was diffused. The mango was disengaged and the banana settled into the hands the other bananas, to dream of Jamaica and the sun. The thought began to go through my head that if I hadn't known the date there could have been an emergency. Mrs Gnobtree's cat might have stopped being fed one day too early, Julie might have missed her driving test, lonely Uncle Harold might never have received his birthday card and decided that life wasn't so lonely under the wheels of the Number Seventy-Nine. It was a good job that I knew. What if everyone forgot? It's a good job there are people like me around, I think. What if no one had know what day it was? The world would have gone to pieces. I met an old friend the other day who is currently doing a Phd in Sand Dynamics. "What's that about, then?" I asked. "Oh, you know, i mix sand together and turn it upside down, that sort of thing. It's great fun, really." I think it's great that my friend thinks so much of sand. Someone needs to know these things. Maybe not every day, but it's nice to know someone, somewhere is concerned about it. We could have done with him around on Saturday, at ATP, when we were building a runway for our balloon-powered car on the beach. The sand was misbehaving. I tried to use it to model a pair of boobs, with the help of a couple of whelk-shells, but they collapsed, like a couple of overcooked souffles in an ill-fitting bra. Yes, ATP was a lot of fun. I saw YOU, and talked about YOU, but didn't have much to say about YOU, because we all think you smell. Dave Moore hugged a rubber bunny, Ally Cook forced me to snort the Queen's Poo, Ian and I were taunted by an elderly stooping man for buying a kite ("a kite! ha ha!"). He was so gripped by laughter he went out of control and careered into a rack of name-your-own mugs. Someone told me some bands were playing somewhere too, but whenever I looked in on one of the stages they still appeared to be warming up. The sound man spent most of Saturday afternoon trying to find Radio Two. It was good fun, despite things. Hello to everyone I met. Hope Lucy's feeling a bit better. I wonder if Ally saw the sunrise in the end. Oof! Time for some more toast, I think.. Robin xxx [ by express delivery : http://www.superatomic.co.uk/ ] _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peter_harr1s at xxx.uk Wed Apr 9 10:13:00 2003 From: peter_harr1s at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Peter=20Harris?=) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 10:13:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: the dangers of supply and demand Message-ID: <20030409091300.67217.qmail@web14709.mail.yahoo.com> hello again, Thankyou to the unnamed individual who emailed me last week. aren't you lovely :) Just thought for those who have been swindled out of Glastonbury tickets (many, i would think) that Mr Eavis is embarking on a crackdown of people who are using Ebay or illicitly reselling tickets by any other medium (this is a legal infringement, of course). So, do keep your eyes peeled; I have a sneaking suspicion that in a few weeks there may be another release of recaptured tickets. Good luck! For the rest of you, I was glad to hear about the bowling weekend. Shame i couldn't make it, i like bowling. Especially because of the shoes - i liked them so much i have a pair i swiped. it's the only thing i thieved deliberately. I'm home from uni, back in the manurey countryside that is my very own Tom Wolfe's "home". I got back. But only for 3 days, goodness knows my family are insane. Joke: Two snowmen are standing in a field, and one says to the other "Do you smell carrot?" Ooh, well intentioned post rapidly losing any value... Just thought i'd pay my respects to Edwin Starr, i had the privilege of seeing him perform, albeit with Utah Saints at Reading. But they and he were both exceptional, the highlight of my festival that year. For those people who dislike Thom Yorke's anti-bush remarks, I must say, despite adoring Radiohead's works, that you're right, he does seem just to snipe, rather than discuss. Marilyn Manson is a much more literate and persuasive debater. The new Radiohead album, by the by, is called "Hail To The Thief", a direct quote by protest groups opposing Bush's election (but let's be fair, it was a swindle, and that's not an inflammatory comment as there was bags of evidence. But it's water under the bridge now, and we have bigger fish to fry) Oh, also, did you know that France and Russia were going to veto the UN resolution not on ethical grounds, but because France has lucrative oil dealings with Iraq and Russia has supply line issues in the Middle East? It's sad that everything boils down to money. Douglas Adams said something funny about that in the Hitch-Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy. That's war, now the White Stripes. The only time i REALLY watched them (exclude Glastonbury 2002) was in September 2002, when they did Yardbird covers with Jeff Beck at the latter's Royal Festival Hall performance. It were quite good. In other respects, i can't say i truly appreciate what they do, as I dearly love harmonious singing voices (cf Mr Murdoch). I'm surprised I emailed again. I thought i may lurk. Maybe i will. Love to you all, Peter xx __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lizdaplyn at xxx.com Wed Apr 9 22:51:30 2003 From: lizdaplyn at xxx.com (Liz Daplyn) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 21:51:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: everything in its right place Message-ID: Hello hello! What a grand Sinister tweekender it was in London, and not just because on Saturday I didn't have to go more than about 500 yards from my house to participate in all the bowling, bouzing, and bullshitting activities that one could possibly desire to be present at. Boys and girls, ladies and gents, you're all lovely and I hope you enjoyed your weekends, wherever in the world you are, but I am greatly and particularly pleased with the company I've been keeping of late. PERSPIRATION MADE A FOOL OF ME So I was dreading stepping up to the line with my girly 10 pound ball, having made little or no progress with my bowling form of late, but as the frames progressed, I was astonished to find myself racking up the spares, gaining a place in the elite Champions League team (as opposed to the UEFA and Worthingtons Cups that were alternately fought over by the lesser mortals present) for the second game, and, ultimately, an overall bronze position behind Mark and Ken, which is a fine position if you like indie-boy posteriors. Metaphors my mixed unfortunately are. SHE'S GOT IT, BABY SHE'S GOT IT Eventually we escaped the slightly sticky confines of Rowans fine establishment (containing, lest we forget, a 'health suite' and snooker hall as well as 24 lanes of bowling joy) for the mildly more salubrious surrounds of the Worlds End public house, where large leather sofas and banquette seating were commandeered for our use while we ate, drank, and made extremely merry. Unfortunately, or superbly, depending on your opinions on stretch leather halter tops, our inebriated discussion forum was interrupted by the appearance on stage of Venus, North London's premier girl covers band. The daring hypothesis that the Beatles' "Ticket To Ride" may be combined with all popular music numbers was tested in this live setting by a (some would say unwilling and, indeed, unwitting) collaboration between ourselves and the ladies of Venus, and so far has held up admirably, but will require further experimentation until fully empirically verified. Why not try it at home yourselves? OH NO! FOOTBALL! OH NO! Sunday brought a sadly cloudy sky and a trip to Camden, where the goth-residue may be measured by the extent of precipitation of fresh black eyeliner and facial piercings upon all and sundry in the locale. Freshly baked goods, posh crisps, and red red wine were hauled up Primrose Hill, where we reposed shivering until the latter comestible kicked in. There were team sports, and I believe that what passes for our honour was upheld against The Other Belle & Sebastian Interweb Hobby. It was found necessary to repair to a very nice pub for the remainder of the proceedings. AND RELAX... As the Kaiserotto said, there are only a few oldies (in list duration rather than actual age, ducky) still posting, and some are more equal than others. By which I mean to say that I should pay more attention to all your lovely pink writings (reading the archives is a bit conspicuous at work), and contribute more often myself. I'd tie a knot in my hanky for remembrance if I had one, but you'll just have to trust me on this one. Love, Liz :x -------------------------------- yes is a pleasant country: if's wintry (my lovely) let's open the year both is the very weather (not either) my treasure, when violets appear love is a deeper season than reason; my sweet one (and april's where we're) e. e. cummings _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MRissbrook at xxx.com Thu Apr 10 00:12:46 2003 From: MRissbrook at xxx.com (MRissbrook at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 19:12:46 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Relaaaaaaxxx Message-ID: <401A9219.7566148F.0B7ED01B@aol.com> Thought some of you may appreciate this site.... http://www.ferryhalim.com/orisinal/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Thu Apr 10 01:51:36 2003 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop-Apps) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 17:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: The vicar, or whatever, took her CHU one side and gave her KENfirmation Message-ID: <20030410005136.71360.qmail@web9306.mail.yahoo.com> Alright, Sinister... It's been a long time...If Liz Daplyn is going to post, then I'm going to have to as well. It was over a year ago when I was in London. There were Sinister gatherings. And dancing. A trip to Copenhagen to see B&S. I think of that time fondly. I will return in a bit more than a year. I hope you're all there to have more fun times with. Right now life is full of hard work. Time has flown by so fast. Last year, everything was leading up to Benny Bapps' Visa coming through so he could move to Califor-ni-a to marry me. So that was all pretty much a blur. It was New Year's Eve. The wedding was rockin'. I walked down the aisle to "Fiction" from the Storytelling soundtrack. The weather in Santa Barbara was beautiful. At the reception overlooking the sea, we read the card from Sinister, hand delivered by Jim Purple Trousers. Explaining to my Great Aunt who this Stuart Murdoch is as I read his greeting on the card to our guests was quite amusing. I think that was my favorite wedding present of all. Thanks to everyone who signed the card for us. It makes me happy that I think back to that day and I feel completely satisfied about the way everything turned out. I never wanted a big wedding just because it's too much pressure to have everything go well and be worth all the money a big wedding costs. We managed to pay for it all and it was fairly inexpensive. All I knew was that I definitely wanted to wear a red kimono and I definitely wanted my hair to go with the kimono, and I think it turned out better than I had hoped. I also definitely wanted the groom to show up, and he did! If you want to see wedding pics go to: http://www.members.aol.com/benandrachelapps/album.html Ben works at the same company as I do now. It seems like I spend more time talking about Sinister in my everyday life than I spend actually participating. Every day someone wants to know how Ben and I met, and we tell them it was through our favorite band and Sinister. I'm proud to say I met my husband here on this list, but people who aren't a part of this never understand. Oh well. Everybody asks "How's married life?" and you know what, it's good. It doesn't feel much different than when we were just dating, except he can live here legally now. It's a perk of having that nice legal piece of paper. Of course, this immigration process won't be over for another year or so. By then, we'll probably be ready to move me back to London and we can start the paper trail all over again! Yee haw! The next phase of this year for me includes looking forward to picnics and sunny days and staying out of the Southern California summer heat and in the swimming pool or air conditioned apartment. The aforementioned trip to London next year is also something I think about a lot these days. I'm happy thinking about traveling. Though I hope the war will be over when it's time to go abroad. It's such a terrible thought that it could still carry on. Here's a blast from the past: Some of you may remember that the Rachels on this list had a competition with the Wills and the Chris people and the Rob/y/ins to make the best mixtape. Chu'll be the judge. The Rachels mix was finished and returned to me in December. It took 13 months to complete and traveled across the US to the UK, to Poland and then back to the US again. And if KEN will ever send me his mailing address, I will send it to him for his consideration. The funny thing for me about music lately is that I don't make enough time for enjoying it. I think I used to be far more passionate about music when I was listening to it through headphones. It just seems to have so much more impact on me. I wonder if anyone else feels this way... I am chomping at the bit for some new B&S music. I'm sure I'm not alone with that feeling. Well, it still feels like I don't have anything significant to say. But at least I gave it a shot. I've missed communicating with so many of you. I hope everyone is well. love, Rachel fruitloop-Apps __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Thu Apr 10 16:17:31 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: we still dance on whirling stages Message-ID: <20030410151731.86393.qmail@web40601.mail.yahoo.com> greetings and salutations from the dark side of the moon. i hope that this finds all of you well. :o) the sun shines brightly in chicagoish today and i am trying to work up the courage to call this girl who posted an advert looking for a roommate. i don't know why things like this frighten me so. weird. i am also somewhat trepedatious about moving into a place with a stranger. unfortunately it is my only option right now. i just don't think i can handle living on my own, financially. on top of that, i am so scared of everything....much as i may like to live alone, i think i would be nervous all of the time. i mean, if someone breaks in and kills you when you have a flat mate, at least they can find you relatively quickly. if you live alone you become one of those urban legends in which your body wasn't discovered for months and, when found, wild dogs had eaten your skin and saved your organs for maggots. or something. maybe not. it was nice to hear from rachel fruitloop today. i have never communicated with her (you) offlist, but always loved reading her posts. i hvae been on this list for....6 or 7 years now...a long time. i miss all of the old posters :o) how is stacey dahling doing, anyone know? has anyone heard from elise or jim? i had her email addy in my old @home addy book....then @home went out of business with no warning and i lost everything. speaking of losing everything. i had to initialize my hard drive...again! a few weeks ago i crashed my computer and had to initialise it. i did so weeping. the thought of losing my 5000 mp3's (including much of my own music) and all of my beloved bookmark's broke my heart. so i was just re-finding some old favourite web sites, re-downloading songs, etc. a problem that i am continuing to have with the compatibility of my OS 9 burner and my OS X system, was leaving me slightly more than frustrated. i have a really expensive burner that has been useless to me for months! anyway, i was on the phone with apple 6 times on tuesday. the last guy i spoke to helped me find a hardware glitch that was causing all of these bizarre messages i was getting. the only way to try to fix it was to do one mutha of an initialisation. i had to set it up to programme all of the 1's back to 0's. everything gone....again. yesterday i re-installed OS 9 and then OS X....things seem to be okay now...that means I don't have to buy a new hard drive. yay! at the risk of making a really lengthy post, i shall share one last thing, and then be on my way. i really envy the sinisters in the UK. there are many of you and you always seem to have activities going on. i think there are, like, 4 people in chicago on the list...that i know of anyway. i feel that we mid-westerners need to make our picnic presence known. there was a picnic a couple of years ago...and a couple of gatherings when B&S were here last year....but nothing apart from that. we should change that. granted, we don't have ken chu, but i'm sure we could muster up a good time. hmm. ah well. i shall away now. dunno what is on the docket for today....i need to think of something intellectually stimulating for the girlies to do today. the divine miss em, aged 5, was so excited. we have been doing these science projects of late and today she brought the crystals she grew, to school to show her teachers and classmates. tre cool. love and physics ~stine __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Fri Apr 11 10:39:31 2003 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?robster?=) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:39:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I feel the need. The need for REPORTING BACK!! Message-ID: <20030411093931.57507.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> On Saturday morning, the sun rose above the dull grey rooftops of Finsbury Park. With neither clouds nor smog to restrict its power, it shone mightily upon the house where Sinister folk were having breakfast. It shone, in the afternoon, upon Finsbury Park tube station where Sinister folk old and new were meeting up, nervously introducing themselves, saying 'hi!' and 'she used to be my boss!'. It shone enticingly upon Rowans bowling centre which the Sinister folk had made their destination. The sun wasn't shining inside Rowans, which begs the question: 'What the hens were you doing there, then?' The answer was, of course, DRINKING! Sorry, BOWLING! During the first game, I was enjoying my best form ever. I got a double strike! I did! Sadly, my bourgeoning skeelz weren't enough to beat the mighty Kaiser who had complete mastery over his balls. By game two, my mind was completely in the gutter. My skeelz deserted me and I was left in awe of Eric B's triple strike. Out of spite, I called him a turkey. We've done that joke. Afterwards, we headed to the cosy carbon-copy evirons of the World's End for scran and MORE BOUZE. While people bravely attempted to break Sinister drinking records, an exciting leather-clad girl band serenaded us with cover versions of Ticket to Ride. We joined in - we were GRATE! The following morning, the sun didn't shine. Bastard. Undaunted, we made a courageous attempt to picnic on the summit of Primrose Hill where The View's So Nice. Fairy cakes and cheese scones (courtesy of the baking skeelz of Liz and the decorating skeelz or Archel) were eaten for survival as the elements took their toll on our frail indie bodies. A football match between Sinister and TheOtherB&SInternetHobby took place as well. I don't know what happened there because football is RUBBIDGE - although I understand TheOtherB&SInternetHobby were rightfully and soundly beaten. With sticks. Afterwards, we didn't go to the Spread Eagle. This was an excellent decision that should be included in the manual for all future picnics. Too soon, though, time was called on my weekend in London. Another tube journey and a goodbye to the Girlfriend at Waterloo followed. Bah. With the sun setting, the skanky old train wound its way back to Portsmouth. I thought about taking another skanky old train in the opposite direction on Friday. Smiled. Robster __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From malcolmeggs at xxx.com Fri Apr 11 16:28:10 2003 From: malcolmeggs at xxx.com (Malcolm Eggs) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:28:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sometimes it snows in april Message-ID: Its the end of the world, and she doesn't believe it. She shatters a display window a shopping trolley, climbs inside, and free-wheels towards the aisle marked 'a-d of modern literature'. Filling her trolley with books she'll never get the chance to read. And thats why i'll never be a writer, just can't dilute the one perfect image in my head, by surrounding it with a book of other crap. She said she was liberating my heart, but she's looting bookshops in my mind. Its the end of your world kid. But back to this list, what will sinister do at the end of the world? I dont really see the point in one last shag before i die, it'll just be another shag surely? and anyway there'll be time enough for sex and drugs in heaven! No i really fancy this looting game. From looking at the news on the telly it seems the aim is to get the most ridiculous and grandiose thing u can get your hands on. The guy carrying a huge ornamental byzantine vase is the clear leader so far. I thought "what? is he gonna sell it to michael jackson?". Then the penny dropped - at the end of the world i wanna loot michael jackson's place! All help welcome of course. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Fri Apr 11 23:28:54 2003 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:28:54 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Places I Love (#2) Message-ID: <1812BD45.5569FE4B.0274188F@aol.com> I haven't been to Phoenix, Arizona since I was probably seventeen or so. That trip was not the usual Arizona excursion. My parents were going to attend some sort of business conference and dragged myself and my younger sister along with them. It was my first plane trip. We stayed at a hotel that overlooked a landfill. The hotel itself was beautiful, but I stayed inside the entire time and ate brownies from the mini-bar and watched "The People vs. Larry Flynt" on pay-per-view television. That trip was only a few days, but it was just long enough to feel like an Arizona I didn't remember. Since I was very young I'd gone with my family to Phoenix every spring break. We'd load up into the station wagon--me and my younger sister slipping around on the hot vinyl seats, my older sister in the very back of the car (she acted like she wanted to snooze, but in fact, later, she admitted she just wanted to eat the food that was also back there). On day one of our trip, we never seemed to get very far, but the drive seemed endless. We'd usually drive from Greeley (which is up in the northern part of Colorado) down to Pueblo (which is down in the South). The drive itself is probably only three and some hours. When we arrived in Pueblo the arguments about who-slept-with-who began. My parents were always too cheap to get two hotel rooms, so instead we all packed together into one room--parents in one bed, two kids in another, another on the floor. Older sister, Leslee, always claimed the floor. Kelly and I would stay up late into the night fighting over the covers, or who was hogging the bed. If I felt Kelly was sprawling out too much, I'd wish I'd fall off the bed, wake up the whole family, who'd then feel sorry for me--just to piss her off. I don't think it ever happened. Day two was the long one. All the way from Pueblo down into southern New Mexico. This was the part of the trip where my dad would insist on playing a Michael Murphy tape--usually, appropriately, "The Land of Enchantment." Sometimes we'd all sing along. Further into New Mexico, the landscape always looked erased--whited-out--too bright. Like someone had drawn in some trees, or some houses, then decided it needed to be rubbed out and done over again, but forgot. Day three was when we ventured near Phoenix. I always knew we were close when we started spotting Saguaros. They looked like happy, friendly neighbors saying "howdy" from a distance. My dad would promise "a carton of Rolo's" for whoever spotted the first cactus. At this point my older sister would pretend like she was too old to get excited over such stupid things, and fall asleep, her mouth open. I'd throw bits of paper into her opened mouth until she woke up. Places I love: after I wrote about the Breakfast King, I tried very hard to think of other places I presently love--yes, there are places I like, certainly, but places I love? Being in love with a place is like brushing up against a fence that got up and walked away with you. I love the Inn Suites in Phoenix, Arizona. There are a lot of fancy resorts in Phoenix, since it's on the escape route for retirees. The Inn Suites sat near a square of subsidized housing, in a not-so-nice area of town. From our kitchen, I could stare out the window and watch migrant workers play baseball in the abandoned field across the road. Every morning the housekeeping service brought us little tins of pineapple juice along with a handful of peppermints. At night my parents would take us to some different chain-restaurant. I'd roll down the window and stick my head outside to smell the Phoenix smell--dirty oranges, orange blossoms tainted with the smell of smog. There was also a very nice courtyard, the sky framed with palm trees and squawking birds. My parents never made my sisters and I follow the 45 minute swimming rule. We ate pink-frosted donuts inbetween games of Marco Polo. I'd always have a boyfriend at the Inn Suites; maybe some older boy who resembled Jonathan Brandis, or another boy just thought I was pretty (despite my tattered swimsuit and bad perm). Me and the boys would play hide-and-seek with the other hotel children, and sneak off to sit beside a few bushes pretend to be in love, or just pretend that we were playing hide-in-seek. In the mornings they'd save their packaged danishes for me; when it came time for my family to go back to Colorado, me and my boys never exchanged information, never kept in contact. It was like we knew it had to end, like a good movie you're sad can't last forever. During the last trip to Phoenix, the one where I was sort of too teenagey and angsty to thoroughly enjoy it, my parents took me to the Inn Suites. I wanted to see it again. I had complained throughout the entire trip that I'd wished we'd stayed there instead. As I entered the courtyard, it didn't look as glamorous as I'd remembered. The management had put a huge wrought-iron fence around the pool, making it look forced and too safe. College students lounged in front of the pool, smoking cigarettes and drunk at 1 p.m. It seemed dirty. Spring-breaky. Someone's shoe floated around in the deep end of the pool. One thing hadn't changed, though--the sky was still framed with those palm trees, even bigger than I had remembered. It felt like a life I should have belonged to. Mandee May +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Sun Apr 13 12:08:04 2003 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 11:08:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the SARS of track and field Message-ID: Hello all, Yeah, well so wassup. I'm still recovering from the weekend sinister bowling and drinking extravaganza which had quite literally left me speechless. Either that or I caught SARS and lost my voice. A lot of reporting back has been done therefore I shall keep this brief, things that I remember (not much). So a la High Fidelity here's a top 10 list of what I can remember. - Extraordinary bowling techniques were perfected by various sinisters to such preternatual heights that "Psychic Bowling" phenomena was observed resulting in strikes without even throwing a ball. - Human sacrifices made by Rowens Bowling technicians, forfeiting their own bodies to the bowling machinary in order to restore our pins. - Big Stu losing to the GIRLS despite being in the Champions League, while Dafyd Strange's miraculous two-handed technique ever so slightly let him down. - Kieran Devaney showing Venus the girls cover band what he thought of their performance. - The obligatory Top Of The Hill Whinging was done. This time regarding the weather and Sam already quoted my quotage of Outkast, so I won't. All I have to say is, judging by how TIRED everyone looked after the picnic (some even went home EARLY!) - AS IF any of you would have turned up for bowling if it happens after picnicking ye lazy getts... :-) - BEATING THE OTHER INTERNET B&S PASSTIME AT FOOTIE - which may or may not have to do with my infiltration into the other team and causing them to lose.... - sneaked a bottle of wine into the pub but failing to drink it due to being a wuss. - Proudly living up the twee as fuck stereotype by mass consumption of LOLLY POPs inside the pub, until barmaid told us to stop eating those because "they serve snacks at the bar so please put those away" - tempted to go to the bar and ask if they really served lollies. - Attempts (and the failure) to come up with good names for a Belle and Sebastian tribute band. Or at least one that is as good as "We might be We Might Be Giants" or "Are We Them". - The obligatory Inside The Pub whinging was done. So yeah! Fun it was. Can't wait til GLASGOW GIG.. and I wonder if B&S will do Glastonbury again...the Red Bull Dozers are! I've heard rumours that they will be doing a drunken live performance on Acoustics Tent #28374 (i.e. my tent) Ken _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com Sun Apr 13 23:08:30 2003 From: a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com (a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 15:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: She'll Talk To You With No One Else Around. Message-ID: <20030413220835.640.h011.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> Helloooooooo Sinister! (That was, just for your information, a verbal imitation of a really bad Swedish artist, and most probably no one of you will understand my great sense of humour by doing that as my introduction since you^Òre not Swedish so sod it. But anyways.) I have my easter break now, haha it is so nice! I^Òm listening to music, sleeping, watching daytime television, eventually wanting to buy every single thing from ^ÓTV-SHOP^Ô, and ^ÓNordic Shopping^Ô. I^Òve had the crave for the Mitsu Knife since I was a kid. And the world^Òs smallest Juicepress, which you have gotten for free if you call within ten minutes since 1993. And the SuperStyler. And Quick N Brite. I don^Òt even have a car to polish, but damn people, that stuff is amazing. [I am not mental. It^Òs just that once you get stuck in front of that stuff you^Òll want it. Even though it^Òs completely useless. I^Òd never buy it though.] Oh God. I really AM in the television-generation. When I was little my parents used to tell me that I^Òd get squareshaped eyes if I watched too much television. It^Òs not happened yet, but even then, I was sort of like ^ÓI guess I could handle that.^Ô Slightly scared though. One thing that^Òs not bad television, though, is Six Feet Under. I really love that show, it is absolutely fabulous. So, what have I been doing the last couple of weeks then? Well, I^Òve hung with both the band Interpol from New York, and one of my favourite artists, Jesse Malin. They were both playing, Interpol on a Friday, Jesse on a Saturday, and since it was at this bar and Amanda (my best friend who^Òs also my dad^Òs girlfriend^Òs daughter) and I couldn^Òt get in, her dad (who^Òs a producer and has got about five billion weird contacts throughout Stockholm^Òs music business) made it possible for us to go and see the soundchecks instead and hang with them. AH! How lovely it was. I love Jesse Malin, he^Òs so wonderful. A truly sweet man. He was going to play Ryan Adams (his best friend) mine and Amanda^Òs demo version of Ryan^Òs song Tomorrow, because I gave it to him. It was all really great, until I got home, played it to my mum and sister, realized how shitty it was and went out on the balcony to cry for a while because I had just handed it to Jesse and there was no return. Then I realized I was acting spoilt and all and so I decided to be really thankful for it instead. So there goes. Hurrah! On Wednesday, I^Òm going to see Bounce Street Dance Company and their new show. How street of me, I already feel down with da hiphop. Yo. This got me thinking about one period in my life when I would walk around saying ^ÓAre you down with da hiphop?!^Ô in a really aggressive tone to pale, pretentious indiekids just to be a bit politically incorrect. Oh, I found so much joy in doing that. I don^Òt do it anymore. Why? I should start doing it again, it really is amusing. Oh, by the way, why didn^Òt anyone warn me about the amount of time needed in trying to get a summer job when you^Òve never worked in your entire life before? It is so hard. Ok, not really. I^Òm just really lazy as usual, and I want to work as a gardener at the local graveyard, it seems sort of cool, except that I can never send in the application because I^Òm so good at procrastinating, and because I don^Òt know shit about gardening. I just imagine myself having use of this since I will A) At least be working my arse off for a bad wage outdoors and not locked up somewhere B) Have a funny story to tell when I get famous with my band (helloooo confidence). I can just see it ^ÓWhen I was 16 I spent my summer at the graveyard.^Ô And people will think I^Òm crazy. I don^Òt know why that would be a good thing, but what the hell. C) Become deep and start thinking about life and death and blah blah blah. I^Òve applied for a job at a café ten minutes from my house, and then I might have to work at a hospital as a cleaner. If I^Òm so lucky. Hrrrrrr. It would be so much easier if I got a record deal and got to record this really good album and get just enough money to keep me alive during the summer months. Ah, it is a nice dream. I^Òm not going to talk more about myself now, but since I can^Òt really think of anything more to write [about myself] I will let you all go now. Read the next mail, you fools. Why did you read this far? I am dull. Take care, Stars and Easter Eggs Astrid x PS. This is my way of saying hello to people TRL-style: OH MY GOD my name is Astrid and I^Òm from Stockholm, Sweden, wooohooo!!! I want to give a shout out to all my friends at sinister, Anders (come back home soon), Fran (letter is on its way), Miss Alex (I am thinking about if I should be re-doing the mixtape or not, sorry for being so lazy) and everyone else, woohooo!!! PPS. For those of you who don^Òt know, TRL or Total Request Live is an awful show with a top ten list of the most popular videos in the USA with TONS of obnoxious teens screaming their guts out and scaring celebrities coming there to promote themselves. It is hosted by actually-quite-ugly Carson Daly and other chirpy types. Most of the show consists of a background sound of ^ÓIIIIIIIHHHHHHH^Ô. Teenage Girls Gone Wrong. Very Scary. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From anakin_sky at xxx.net Mon Apr 14 15:18:01 2003 From: anakin_sky at xxx.net (anakin_sky at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 16:18:01 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Sinister: spanish slalom Message-ID: <11106.1050329881@www12.gmx.net> TRL (Temporary Residence Ltd) is also one of the best independent record labels in the united states. in my opinion. fuck MTV. sorry if this is of no interest to most of you, and it has come up before as well, but i keep it short: i'd just like to know who else of you is going to barcelona to the primaverasound festival to see belle & sebastian (and godspeed, and yo la tengo, and mogwai, and sonic youth, etc.)? and does anyone know how to get tickets outside of spain? the website that sells tickets doesn't seem to have the option of posting them, only of picking them up in barcelona)... thanks a lot :) anne. -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte lächeln! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Mon Apr 14 14:37:26 2003 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:37:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm half in love with every girl I meet Message-ID: So, last week was fun. An accidental big night out on Friday, bowling and drinking (probably more of the latter let's face it) on Saturday, picnicking and drinking (probably more of the latter let's face it) on Sunday, then a conference fill of drinking all week. In fact I enjoyed myself so much, I was thoroughly depressed when I finally got home on Thursday and missing everyone loads. Yes, that includes YOU. The only answer to depression is of course to go out shopping, spend lots of money on new clothes, and then get home and settle down for the evening with a big bar of chocolate. At which point I jumped up, thought "Oh shit I'm turning into a woman", and immediately turned the TV on to watch the football. Much excitement (I'm easily impressed) when I received a list crush vote last week. For those of you who weren't around here when it started, the idea is to anonymously tell people you fancy them; if they vote for you as well, you both get an email, and love flows. Possibly. Of course, votes are supposed to be entirely on the basis of posts to the list, and nothing more carnal, but nobody ever seemed to take much notice of that bit. So if you want to cheer someone up, go to http://www.missprint.org/sinister/crush.html. What's more exciting is that I have absolutely no idea who was responsible. I can only assume it was someone who didn't witness my eating problems on Primrose Hill last weekend. Most bizarre musical event of the summer: you can always rely on the Guildford Festival to have an, erm, interesting bill. The festival which once entertained the masses with Culture Club, Motorhead and Rolf Harris on the same weekend, has come up with the goods once more. This year's festival will be headlined by Love, Madness, and Alice Cooper. With support from the Mavericks and Atomic Kitten. Who on earth do they expect to go? I'm sure there is a big Alice Cooper / Atomic Kitten crossover market in Surrey, but still... 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wp237567 at xxx.uk Mon Apr 14 16:43:07 2003 From: wp237567 at xxx.uk (Neil Wykes) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 16:43:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: self-indulgent twaddle Message-ID: I wanted my first email to the Sinister List to be one that was heart felt and during an emotional period, when my best writing is often done. instead I'm writing to avoid an essay about a need for more propaganda. My intellectualisation du'jour is that I haven't been sleeping well and my overtired and tarnished brain couldn't hack the essay any longer. I don't know if there's much point in talking about who and where I am, unless I have anything interesting to say you're not going to remember me are you? like that boring bloke at the party who's had too much red wine and jazz gas. Don't know who I mean? Proves my point doesn't it? so, for the first time I have an audience of over thirty for my writing. from what I read, far, far more then thirty in fact. I can feel the butterflies waking up and taking caffeine so they can pester me for a while... the reason I've not been sleeping isn't, unfortunately, from a nymph caressing and pestering after my attention, it is the boring, but glow in the dark question; "why do I keep ending up being bullied?". The most obvious and self-esteem busting answer is I have 'victim' tattooed on my forehead. I guess it must be on my forehead as, if read with the eyes below it reads 'victimise'! I try to be true myself and ignore other people who mock , but I do draw attention to myself wherever I go, by just being me, So I have had beer thrown at me, names shouted at me more recently verbally abused by a friend for the past nine months and I had to resort to doing anything I could to getting him to realise I don't like him and more importantly, what he says. the direct routes just haven't worked. I thought by the time I was twenty this'll all be over, but now, at twenty three I realise I am always going to meet people who get off on putting people down. Do we all meet these people or is it just me? I'm sorry for the teen angst from a twenty-something. I think I may have avoided a lot of this stuff when I was younger and I'm learning the hard way now.. I'm not upset or depressed, but jus disappointed that people don't grow up of bullying So, what do you think? an interesting email? or self-indulgent twaddle? if anyone has any answers to the question of 'Is it just me?' please email me outside the list. if anyone has the meaning of life I'd like to hear that too! :) take care people Neil Wykes P.S. I love reading the stuff you people post! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jlhill81 at xxx.com Mon Apr 14 17:55:11 2003 From: jlhill81 at xxx.com (Joanne Hill) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 17:55:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: dear god, life ain't kind, people getting born and dying Message-ID: I've not posted in a little while, but I think I need to today. My boyfriend Tim phoned me from England yesterday, I was so happy because he hasn't phoned for ages. But he had bad news, his mum died on Saturday. She was 55 I think. He told me he didn't know what had happened, they have to wait for the post mortem. As far as I know she wasn't ill. After a while I didn't know what to say to him, we sat there on the phone for ages not talking, he was crying. I felt crap for not being able to say something. I wish I could go to him, but he says I should wait til after my exams, and then I might fly straight home, I won't go to New York and Nashville and all the other places I planned to. I think Tim wants me to go back straight after exams. Anyway I'd feel guilty going off traveling. But I don't know what to do. I've never lost anyone I know. I only met his mum twice, stayed at their house, she was lovely. She was also full time carer for Tim's dad, he has MS and can't cope on his own, he's in a wheelchair. I don't know what's going to happen now. Tim has his finals next month, and he was going to go to Law School in September. Maybe he'll have to look after his dad. Tim's brother and his family live about 3 hours away, they've driven down to be with the others. It's just so...I don't know...she wasn't ill. I feel so useless here, I want to be with Tim. Joanne _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SGTHURMOND at xxx.com Tue Apr 15 00:05:44 2003 From: SGTHURMOND at xxx.com (SGTHURMOND at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 19:05:44 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Spring if FINALLY here! Message-ID: <4F4E6702.548D11C4.0BCB1B57@aol.com> O Spring!! It�^�^�s been so long since we�^�^�ve seen you. I was beginning to think that damn bitch Mother Nature was never going to let you come out and play with us again. *** So, it is indeed springtime in the city. I�^�^�m so excited! The birds are singing, the sun is shining, the flowers are blooming, all the good-looking people seem to have come out of hibernation. But, what I�^�^�m really, really excited about, and cannot contain any longer, is that I can now mop my floors. I have been waiting for what feels like an eternity to do this. See, this winter, every time I�^�^�d grab my mop and fill my bucket with warm sudsy water, the sky would start falling with those pretty white flakes that inevitably would end up a slushy brown mess all over my newly-mopped apartment floor. I already have to deal with all the crap from the city streets (dog shit, garbage, urine, gum, etc.) that my roommate brings into our place because he refuses to grasp the concept of taking off his shoes before entering it, but do I really need to be dealing with snow in the month of April? That�^�^�s prime Spring Cleaning time and it�^�^�s downright depressing that I haven�^�^�t been able to even get started. I don�^�^�t know about you but I love cleaning. I always have. In fact, when I was a little girl, I wanted to be a maid. My family used to have a maid come to our house twice a week. Her name was Tina, and she would launder and iron the clothes, wash any dirty dishes, sweep and mop the floors, and dust and vacuum. Of course, not always in that order, which pissed off my obsessive-complusive mother to no end. Anyway, I�^�^�d watch Tina as she did her chores and she always looked so happy. Sometimes, she would let me help her out. Usually, with the dusting. This was a fairly easy task for a child. Such fond memories, I really looked up to her. And, I learned some decent cleaning techniques that I still use today. Now that I�^�^�m older, wiser, and I see the world for the soul-sucking, disappointing cesspool it really is, I understand what it is about cleaning that makes me so happy. I�^�^�m sure I�^�^�m not the first person to realize this and I hope I�^�^�m not the last, but cleaning is mental purification. Pure and simple. It�^�^�s therapy for the price of a roll of paper towels and a bottle of 409 All Purpose Cleaner. Cleaning is getting rid of all the old dust that has collected, settled on, and weighed down all my cherished items. My books, lampshades, television screen, table tops, stereo, cd collection. All that, for lack of a better word, stuff that cohabitates with me. But, sometimes without realizing it, I neglect and disrepect my stuff. Oh sure, I use my stuff. I switch on the lamp when I�^�^�m reading a book or I�^�^�ll turn on my television set and watch American Idol. But when I think about how long it�^�^�s been since I�^�^�ve actually run a duster over these things or wiped them down with some soft cotton fabric, it makes me feel terribly guilty. I get to wash the daily grime off my body everyday. But my stuff doesn�^�^�t get to do that. It relies on me for that. Don�^�^�t we all need some special attention, a little loving care? A good scrubbing? By not cleaning, I feel like I�^�^�m not only hurting myself emotionally, but I�^�^�m hurting my stuff emotionally, too. Like Tina! , cleaning makes! me and my stuff happy. And it also helps keep my allergies from acting up. So, now that winter seems to have said, "Goodbye suckers!" and spring has said, "Hello lovely people!" my life renewing process can begin. I can purge, and I can�^�^�t wait. Tonight, when I get home after my monotonous day job, I�^�^�m going to head straight for the mop and bucket and clean my floors like they�^�^�ve never been cleaned before! These are some albums I like to put on while cleaning because of either their length or upbeat tempos: The Clash, London Calling Stepping Out: The Very Best of Joe Jackson The Strokes, Is This It? XTC, Skylarking Pulp, Different Class *** On a completely different note, I got tickets to see Wilco/Sonic Youth at Central Park�^�^�s Summerstage Concert Series! I could care less about Sonic Youth. It�^�^�s Wilco I want to see. I�^�^�ve been a fan for ages and, sadly, I�^�^�ve never managed to see them live. They�^�^�re my favorite band, excluding B&S of course, and I�^�^�ve never seen them live. What kind of fan am I? (Whew! I just barely managed to insert B&S into this otherwise non-B&S-related posting.) Sarah Thurmond +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Tue Apr 15 06:12:40 2003 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:12:40 +0700 Subject: Sinister: Loverock on a Sunny Afternoon Message-ID: hello, *** A most peculiar thing happened to me last Saturday. It was a delightful afternoon. The sun was shining, there was a light breeze, birds were singing.. A nice day for a picnic really. I had just finished doing a spot of gardening and was taking a bag of weeds and other such growy things which you don't really want in your vegetable patch out to the bin. As I approached the bin I noticed a piece of paper on the ground. It looked like a page from an address book or diary, as it had a little coloured tab on the side which had AB written on it. "Hmmm", I thought, "what's this here then?" I picked it up and saw that it was indeed a page from an address book. I quickly scanned the front but didn't recognise any of the names. Then I turned it over... *** Would any listee's from Australia or New Zealand be interested in joining a tape tree? Email me if you're interested and I might try and start one. *** On the back of the page my Dad's and Grandma's phone numbers and addresses were listed. "How very strange!" I thought. I glanced out to the road and saw that there were loads of pages like this blown all down the street. How bizarre that the one page that had my family's details on would end up right outside my house. This was starting to freak me out a little. It was getting heavy, and when it's getting heavy it's time for me to turn into my alter-ego, the wisecracking, donut-eating Det Sgt Loverock!^ *** ^I worked as a file room clerk in the police service for a year or so and one of the police officers was called Det Sgt Loverock. I though it was the funniest name ever and have since stolen it to use as the name for my alter-ego. *** "Well it seems like someone has taken a leaf out of this person's book doesn't it!" Loverock laughed loudly at his own joke, then began to think about how he was going to solve this little mystery. This was a vital case for Loverock following the limited success of his previous operation. A case of mistaken identity and a hint of paranoia almost saw the wrong boy killed, but thankfully his partner DS Skulldeath managed to make a couple of people talk and disaster was narrowly avoided. "I sure do wish Skulldeath was here to help me out on this one," Loverock thought. "Why she got mixed up in that crazy mating deer with cheetahs business I'll never know. I guess some people will do anything to make a quick buck." He quickly downed a six pack of donuts (iced of course) for a bit of courage, then made his way out into the street to pick up the pages. After fifteen minutes he had about 50 pages and a tummy ache from eating too quickly. An hour later and he had collected all the pages. Now to analyse the evidence. *** *** Loverock sat down on his armchair, a cup of sugary coffee in one hand, a jam donut in his left hand, and the pages in his other hand. The first page he had picked up had the phone number for the Perth Alzheimers Club. "Sounds like a nice way to meet new people each day," Loverock quipped. The next page he looked at had a lot of people with the surname Mercer listed. Was this a breakthrough? Could the owner of this address book be a Mercer, and have Alzheimers? Loverock was suddenly hit by a brainwave. If this person knew my, I mean Terry's, parents, then surely Terry's parents would know this person! Loverock raced to the phone to call one of his snitches. *** *** DS Lovercock: "Hi, my name is Det Sgt Loverock, I was hoping to talk to a Mrs Terry." Mrs Terry: "Sorry, I think you may the wrong number, this is Marilyn Boyle speaking here." DS Loverock: "OK, yeah cool, that's right. Ummm, do you know anyone who has Alzheimer's and the surname Mercer?" Mrs Boyle: "Terry, is that you?" Acting DS Terry: "Umm, yeah, hi Mum." Mrs Mum: "Why did you call yourself Loverock?" Acting DS Terry: "Hey? Erm, it must have been like a crossed line or something. So do you know anyone like that?" Mrs Mum: "I'm not sure, I'll get your dad." Mrs Dad: "Hello." *** *** Loverock's snitches had come good. He had the name and address of the address book's owners. How the pages ended up all over the street he lived on will remain a mystery to him, but the important thing is that the address book was going to be back in its owner's hands. Loverock signed the letter he had written to the address book owners and went to date it. "What's the date today?" Loverock wondered. He glanced at the calendar on the wall. "That's last years calendar!" Loverock exclaimed. At the moment a smile began to appear on Loverock's face, and he slowly turned towards the calendar. "It seems to me," Loverock whispered to the out of date calendar, "that your days are numbered!" ***************** This quite bad story was based on a real life event. The author takes no responsibilty for the terrible and at times offensive jokes of DS Loverock, the bad punctuation, or the anatomical inaccuracies. No donuts were hurt during the making of this story. terry --- here's what i think: http://naivetysucceeds.blogspot.com caitlin and terry's sinister recipe tree archives: http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/sinifood/ ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Tue Apr 15 14:03:03 2003 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_[Steady-State]?=) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:03:03 +0200 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Isn’t it great to love someone? She was staying in the living room, right by the door. She was slowly dancing in the kitchen, and then smiling from the top of the stairs. She was sitting on the bed, reading a book I won’t remember. She was waiting for me to get back. And the sun was gone already. She was there and that was all I needed. The house was empty when I stepped back. No one in the kitchen or in any other room, the sun high in the sky and half afternoon still to be spent. The rooms, filled the more_then_second hand landlord pieces of furniture, and which had looked pretty and nice once the painting on the wall would have been repainted, just a little bit emptier. And the traffic on the road, just a little bit noisier. The spring is here. The back garden will flower soon. I’ll take a walk around, walk by the College campus down to the post office. People will come and go talking about nonsense, or what to me would look like nonsense. I’ll buy myself a pint. I’ll paint the walls one day soon. I’ll do something I haven’t planned yet. I’ll say things that won’t hurt the one I love. I will be able give and answer about how it does feel to be loved. Your Stefano will you miss me whe I'll burn? (W. Oldham) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Tue Apr 15 14:03:42 2003 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_[Steady-State]?=) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:03:42 +0200 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?there_is_only_one_answer?= Message-ID: Isn’t it great to love someone? She was staying in the living room, right by the door. She was slowly dancing in the kitchen, and then smiling from the top of the stairs. She was sitting on the bed, reading a book I won’t remember. She was waiting for me to get back. And the sun was gone already. She was there and that was all I needed. The house was empty when I stepped back. No one in the kitchen or in any other room, the sun high in the sky and half afternoon still to be spent. The rooms, filled the more_then_second hand landlord pieces of furniture, and which had looked pretty and nice once the painting on the wall would have been repainted, just a little bit emptier. And the traffic on the road, just a little bit noisier. The spring is here. The back garden will flower soon. I’ll take a walk around, walk by the College campus down to the post office. People will come and go talking about nonsense, or what to me would look like nonsense. I’ll buy myself a pint. I’ll paint the walls one day soon. I’ll do something I haven’t planned yet. I’ll say things that won’t hurt the one I love. I will be able give and answer about how it does feel to be loved. Your Stefano will you miss me whe I'll burn? (W. Oldham) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdrake_riverman at xxx.com Tue Apr 15 13:13:39 2003 From: nickdrake_riverman at xxx.com (Hazey Jane) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 09:13:39 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Lyrics Message-ID: Hey you who speaks english perfectly well! Do you have in your home the songs "London Has Let Me Down" and "Hurley's Having Dreams"? If yes, can you send me the lyrics? I'm desperated. I'll be forever glad. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail, o maior webmail do Brasil. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Tue Apr 15 14:03:08 2003 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:03:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: happy birthday to us!! In-Reply-To: <401A9219.7566148F.0B7ED01B@aol.com> Message-ID: Well, I don't quite understand how we've managed to get away with it for so long, but How Does It Feel To Be Loved? is an entire ONE YEAR OLD this Thursday. Thanks to everyone who's come down with their dancing shoes. Our guest DJ this time is Jim Irvin from Furniture. It's Bank Holiday Friday the day after which means NO WORK TO WORRY ABOUT! Hurrah. Hope to see you there. How Does It Feel To Be Loved? is at the Buffalo Bars, underneath Famous Cock Tavern, outside Highbury & Islington tube, London, 9pm-2am, £3 in. The playlist is: The Smiths * The Supremes * The Go-Betweens * Dusty Springfield * Belle & Sebastian * Tammi Terrell * Aztec Camera * The Ronettes * Orange Juice * Beach Boys * The Temptations * Velvet Underground * Felt * The Shangri-Las * Primal Scream * Otis Redding * The Field Mice * The Stone Roses * Dexys Midnight Runners * The Four Tops * Dolly Parton * The Orchids x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Tue Apr 15 16:42:23 2003 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:42:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sorry! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi everyone, I've had an email asking me to stop writing to the list about the club. Sorry if it's felt like spam or just mindless advertising. That wasn't the intention and I'm really sorry if people think I've been abusing the list. That'll be the last post about the club from me. Sorry if I've annoyed anyone else. Ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Tue Apr 15 15:58:32 2003 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Garage UK Message-ID: <20030415145832.25315.h010.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> Hello there: ¿ How's everybody ? Kick me if someone already posted this, but I think you might find it really scandalous. http://chrisbir.gotadsl.co.uk/darren/belle.htm Jordiet PD: of course, I was just mentioning the guy's haircut. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Tue Apr 15 19:40:37 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: i hope i live to relive the days gone by Message-ID: <20030415184037.52435.qmail@web40614.mail.yahoo.com> greetings to the sinister posse. it is a rather balmy 85 degrees in chicagoish today. our attempts to play outside were foiled by the fact that the youngest of my charges is afraid of the outdoors. well, not the entire outdoors, just wind, leaves, and birds. you can imagine how this might impair an outing. maybe you can't. the weekened was odd. i woke up saturday morning with the most exhilerating sense of optimism. "this is my day i thought." i honestly felt i was going to win the lottery or something. so i went to get the post from my PO BOX. i got a letter from my bank saying that the balance in my checking account was -281.64. there went my lucky streak. a chance encounter led me to meeting my cousin colleen, whom i never see. she and i, and her 2 kids, went to grab some lunch and had a nice visit. on saturday night i saw "Bend It Like Beckham." I love that movie! i was going to see it in oxford when i was there last year....i couldn't find the movie theatre though :o) my cousin, who is newly 14, and his best friend tyler, asked if they could go to the cinema with me....they're pretty cool, as 14 year olds go, so i said ya. they hated it. i told patch (my cousin) that i didn't really care...he owed me a movie he disliked as he made me take him to see "Zoolander" last year. what a shite movie. sept the fountain that sprayed gasoline :o) speaking of movies. have you seen that movie "Shallow Hal?" i dunno. it just seems offensive to every group of people. all of the aesthetically pretty people have ugly souls, all of the unattractive people have this gorgeous inner beauty...very sterotyped i think. the overweirght girl orders 98 cheeseburgers and breaks a chair. i dunno. i like to think that pretty people can be nice and that un-pretty people can be bastards. also, i dont think that people with wieght problems necessarily eat all of the time. weird. ah well. i have seen it a couple of times and, honestly, i don't know that they are trying to pigeon hole people like that, i think it is just supposed to be about this shallow guy who finds true love in a less than perfect package. i dunno. i really don't like gwynyth paltrow though. i think she is a pretty awful actress. it surprises me how many british people i know think she does well using a faux british accent...i think she sounds awful! ah well. who cares. she gets to shag chris martin, which is more than i get to do. i have a couple of new sinister friends...jinnifer (who needs to post more) and rachel fruitloop *blushes* i sent an off list email to someone yesterday. it got me to thinking about us lot and our personalitites. i was thinking that most of us are probably pretty similar. sort of shy, a little bit "quirky", more likely to hide in a corner than barge into a room full of strangers and command attention. somehow, in the confines of sinister, we are really social and un-awkward. i love sinister. ah well. i sp'ose i have said my piece for the day. love to you all. stay safe and happy. :o) ps...on a sad note...i heard that investigators in california found a woman's body and that of a full term fetus. they think it may be that woman who disappeared on christmas eve. i hope not. i hope she is in montana being happy and just left because her husband was a knobhead. i really hope it isn't her :o( love ~stine "i'm proud to have an udder like my father...no, my mother!" hee hee...one of my favourite lyrics of all time __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather_boa at xxx.com Wed Apr 16 15:00:25 2003 From: feather_boa at xxx.com (Feather Boa) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 15:00:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: it wasn't until later that i realised i should have mentioned scrabble Message-ID: dearest sinister, the weather is so beautiful today that i went and had a picnic on my own in derwent quiet place earlier, and thought of you. i wish i'd been in london for the sini-weekender, or that i was going to be around for mr watson's lovely club, but no, i'm in york trying desperately to finish my degree. which means that i don't get to enjoy the sunshine, 'cos i'm stuck in an airless, windowless computer room. but then on may 16th, it's all over and i'm free for the rest of the summer at least. huzzah. on monday i went for an interview at a university. this was a university in the big city, without any ducks or a man-made lake or any rabbits. and i got lost on the way and turned up ten minutes late. but i was wearing a badge upside down on the inside of my suit just in case, so it wasn't so bad. it will be strange to be back in the big city, and far away from the rest of the ysm (ms gina t is going to durham and the rest are staying in york) *sigh* but, d'you know what's really good? ken's "kieran devaney email reading aid!" (http://redbulldozers.8bit.co.uk/readaid.html) i liked it so much i bought the company. actually that's not true at all, sorry. i couldn't afford to buy the company even if i had the inclination. unless ken will settle for a half chewed cola bottle which i've found at the bottom of my handbag (actually on closer inspection i don't think it's half chewed, i think it was just made that way). oh, at my interview there was a general knowlege quiz, and one of the questions was "which american artist wanted everyone to have fifteen minutes of fame", i knew the answer of course, but it made me think of you again, and cliff richard and the dalai lama. pip pip, FB X ********************************************************************** http://featherboa.blogspot.com - bandwagonesque http://groups.yahoo.com/group/yorksini - big up to the york sinister massive. innit _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Thu Apr 17 10:06:28 2003 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:06:28 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Reporting Back Message-ID: <20030417090628.85043.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> Yesterday, I was walking down Buchanan Street when a seagull shat on me. Actually, it was technically a miss. A bit of splashback landed on the hem of my trousers and my boot (thank goodness I didn’t opt for open-toe sandals, eh?) But it was a really giant dollop. Actually, it was technically several smaller dollops. Rapid fire. A man was walking parallel to me, about a foot and a half away. Wwe exchanged looks when we realised what might have been. I detected no small amount of relief in his eyes. They say that having a bird crap on you brings good luck. And so it was that I spent the evening at the smallest gig B&S have played for a very, very, very long time. The ticket said ‘Members of Belle & Sebastian’. The email had said “THIS IS NOT A BELLE & SEBASTIAN GIG!” Stuart told somebody this was because they might have been sick of each other after so long together. But as it happened, all seven of them stepped onto the stage shortly after the raffle draw (Nal won brute cider!). You could tell they’d been playing the songs a lot recently, all singers being in good voice. “Five new ones and three covers!” said Stupot. “No,” argued Stevie, “Six new ones and two covers”. In the end, with the crowd baying for more, we got six newies and three covers. Here’s what they were (I think): Step into my office, baby – you might have heard this on the Christmas Peel session. Mick shoves his hand up his French horn – woooooaaaargh! All wrapped up in books – a total newie to me – don’t think it’s been performed in publick before. As Ailsa put it, “A proper Belle & Sebastian song”. It was a real cracker. The kind that would put the yellow album on a more equal footing with the white, red and green if it had replaced the Clunker. I can’t remember this one – can somebody fill it in? I think it’s the one that sounded a bit like Good Vibrations. Roy Walker – Also on the Christmas Peel session, I think. Finger clicks supplied by audience, if memory serves. You don’t send me – You might have heard this one before, too. I think I might even have seen them do it live. It totally, totally sounds like Sunshine Superman by Donovan (take note for your list, Carsmile Steve). Straight As in Love (Johnny Cash cover) – Stevie was born to do country, really, wasn’t he? He had to get Stuart to push his glasses back up his nose. Twice. Lucifer San (Pink Floyd cover) – Cracking work on the glockenspiel from our man Beans. I am a cuckoo – I think I was concentrating quite hard on not fainting due to the heat at this point. Alone Again Or (Love cover) – more funny faces from Stevie. He finished with Richard John Girlanders’ favourite chord! There, is *that* enough content for you? Juicy Lucy ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ ************************************************** The Winchester Club http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club __________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Thu Apr 17 12:35:18 2003 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Caitlin Ross) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 12:35:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The glass wall Message-ID: <20030417113518.GA26014@elvis> This one was taken before the band started playing. The compere is on-stage trying to fill in a gap in the show. Behind him, Stuart is sat by the keyboards, riffling through a sheaf of papers. He's drinking something from a white mug, with a teabag tag dangling from the side. Richard is stood at the edge of the stage, looking all beardy. It's nice to post something that's on-topic, instead of all th usual diary posts that just say "My parents think I'm a freak! My doctor wants me to move house and my landlord wants to evict me! My cat is upset!" It's even nicer to have something on-topic to ost about. Last night's gig was billed as an "oh no, it isn't really Belle and Sebastian, honest, so don't get your expectations up" gig; but as it turned out, the whole band were there (although Bob only just made it), and it all went rather well. I'm no good at remembering set-lists, and I didn't catch all of the song titles; but the set started with "Step Into My Office, Baby", "Wrapped Up In Books" and "Roy Walker". Later on, Stevie was in charge of covers of Johnny Cash and Pink Floyd songs, and their encore was a cover they've done before, "Alone Again Or". Some of the audience seemed disappointed that the band didn't play any songs they've already released; but they explained that they've spent so long in the studio recently working on new material, they've forgotten how to play all the old stuff. The new album that will hopefully come out of all this session time will be interesting, because it will be their first 'proper' album, discounting Storytelling, to be recorded before Stuart David left the band, never mind about Isobel. It may just be the effect of seeing the band perform on their own rather than with an additional string section, extra woodwind players and so on, but they now seem to be producing a closer, harmonic sound, very much in a 1960s pop style. Most songs have two or three guitars together, and two- or three-part vocal harmonies. There's no need to squeeze a 'cello part into as many songs as possible; Sarah's viola only came out for one of the band's own songs, and played pizzicato at that. In fact, Sarah seemed a little under-used: on several songs she did little but sit at the edge of the stage nodding her head along to the music. These new songs aren't really a 'new direction' for the band. In fact, they aren't at all. This is traditional B&S, albeit with slightly less variety in the songs. It's not as if these songs are fresh this week from Stuart and Stevie's notebooks; these are all well-formed and carefully worked-on. Two of them have already been performed for John Peel - including "Step Into My Office, Baby" with its bluesy flute riff - and it feels like Stevie's been performing "Travelling Light" for a couple of years now. This picture is of Stevie before the gig. He's sat cross-legged on the floor, quite near the front of the room, listening to a political rant from the stage. He's leaning forward with the light catching his face, his chin resting on his knuckles. He's nodding, and smiling. It was lovely to be able to see B&S playing in such a small venue. I've only ever seen them play in large venues or theatres before, like the Barrowlands or Carnegie Hall; this gig was a refreshing change. On their last tour the Guardian's reviewer (a former Sinisterine himself) said he thought their large-venue style with lots of added musicians was liable to alienate and disappoint their original fans. Last night's gig proved that it's still the core band that matters, not complex production or session artists. The glass wall between us and them was still there, but there was still a lot of intimacy. They weren't way up above the crowd; we could have reached out and touched them. We were close enough to see Sarah's trainers and Stuart's sensible shoes. When Sarah was spare and sat down, it was as if someone from the audience, sitting at the front, had managed to sneak onto the edge of the stage. I was quite surprised that the whole band fitted onto the stage, as it happened. Not only was there plenty of room for all seven of them, bt they even squeezed in a rather large glockenspiel, which some of the band took turns to play. Chris was upright and precise, treating it like a keyboard. Sarah was less sure of herself, and might have slipped a couple of wrong notes in. Stuart bent over it and hammered away like a dervish. This is my last Ink Polaroid from the gig, and it's the only one I have of the band performing. I can't remember which song it's from; but Stevie is on guitar and Stuart just has a tambourine in his hand. They are turned towards each other, and Stuart is pushing Stevie's glasses back up his sweaty nose whilst Stevie keeps on playing. They are both grinning, and there's a look of joyful intimacy in their eyes. xx caitlin -- http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jvic at xxx.br Thu Apr 17 15:07:38 2003 From: jvic at xxx.br (jvic at xxx.br) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:07:38 -0300 Subject: Sinister: i hope i live to relive the days gone by Message-ID: <200304171408.PAA04536@missprint.org> I found Shallow Hal a pretty good film. Maybe not all pretty people are bastards, and not all ugly people are nice, but this is a comedy movie, so it stereotypes some kinds of people. It's not a portrait of real life. But still, makes us think about some issues we live in real life. Victor. Em 15 Apr 2003, Christine Irene escreveu: >greetings to the sinister posse. it is a rather balmy >85 degrees in chicagoish today. our attempts to play >outside were foiled by the fact that the youngest of >my charges is afraid of the outdoors. well, not the >entire outdoors, just wind, leaves, and birds. you >can imagine how this might impair an outing. maybe you >can't. > >the weekened was odd. i woke up saturday morning with >the most exhilerating sense of optimism. "this is my >day i thought." i honestly felt i was going to win >the lottery or something. so i went to get the post >from my PO BOX. i got a letter from my bank saying >that the balance in my checking account was -281.64. >there went my lucky streak. >a chance encounter led me to meeting my cousin >colleen, whom i never see. she and i, and her 2 kids, >went to grab some lunch and had a nice visit. on >saturday night i saw "Bend It Like Beckham." I love >that movie! i was going to see it in oxford when i >was there last year....i couldn't find the movie >theatre though :o) my cousin, who is newly 14, and >his best friend tyler, asked if they could go to the >cinema with me....they're pretty cool, as 14 year olds >go, so i said ya. they hated it. i told patch (my >cousin) that i didn't really care...he owed me a movie >he disliked as he made me take him to see "Zoolander" >last year. what a shite movie. sept the fountain >that sprayed gasoline :o) > >speaking of movies. have you seen that movie "Shallow >Hal?" i dunno. it just seems offensive to every >group of people. all of the aesthetically pretty >people have ugly souls, all of the unattractive people >have this gorgeous inner beauty...very sterotyped i >think. the overweirght girl orders 98 cheeseburgers >and breaks a chair. i dunno. i like to think that >pretty people can be nice and that un-pretty people >can be bastards. also, i dont think that people with >wieght problems necessarily eat all of the time. >weird. ah well. i have seen it a couple of times >and, honestly, i don't know that they are trying to >pigeon hole people like that, i think it is just >supposed to be about this shallow guy who finds true >love in a less than perfect package. i dunno. i >really don't like gwynyth paltrow though. i think she >is a pretty awful actress. it surprises me how many >british people i know think she does well using a faux >british accent...i think she sounds awful! ah well. >who cares. she gets to shag chris martin, which is >more than i get to do. > >i have a couple of new sinister friends...jinnifer >(who needs to post more) and rachel fruitloop >*blushes* > >i sent an off list email to someone yesterday. it got >me to thinking about us lot and our personalitites. i >was thinking that most of us are probably pretty >similar. sort of shy, a little bit "quirky", more >likely to hide in a corner than barge into a room full >of strangers and command attention. somehow, in the >confines of sinister, we are really social and >un-awkward. i love sinister. > >ah well. i sp'ose i have said my piece for the day. >love to you all. stay safe and happy. :o) > >ps...on a sad note...i heard that investigators in >california found a woman's body and that of a full >term fetus. they think it may be that woman who >disappeared on christmas eve. i hope not. i hope she >is in montana being happy and just left because her >husband was a knobhead. i really hope it isn't her >:o( > >love ~stine > >"i'm proud to have an udder like my father...no, my >mother!" hee hee...one of my favourite lyrics of all >time > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Hugo Johan <12813249 at xxx.za> Thu Apr 17 14:42:18 2003 From: Hugo Johan <12813249 at xxx.za> (Hugo Johan <12813249 at xxx.za>) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 15:42:18 +0200 Subject: Sinister: the sun come up, up, up in the morning! Message-ID: <658006E8F0B91C43B7FB157784B191B716A436@STBEVS01.stb.sun.ac.za> aha! dear sinister but life is good, and i've had this warm feeling of wanting to tell you all about it for a while now, and today i will indulge myself! (so if you would please bear with me...) life is good because: a) I HAVE A GIRLFRIEND!!! (finally, after 24 years of waiting and hoping and starting to feel rather sorry for myself). sure, she is in another city and i only really see her on weekends, but still, it IS the best feeling ever to love someone and know they love you back - and all the other things of course ;) i remember someone once posting a rather cynical interpretation of "there's too much love", about it being, well, about people being insincere and using the word love too much and too lightly and too insincerely, but for now i listen to it, and to those glorious strings and those glorious ah's in the coda, and there IS too much love to go around! b) it is autumn, and while most of you are rejoicing i spring, well, for me, autumn IS my spring! those long clear days with its endless powder-blue skies, the always-so-slight chill in the air which means even an african boy can jump into a cardigan or, well, a jumper, the nights which are finally cold enough so you pull thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissssssssssssss many blankets over you and literally sink to sleep beneath their weight [or cuddle up with someone ;) ] yet not cold enough that you don't feel like jumping up, refreshed and energised in the mornings, and... well, it's all just wonderful, the crunch of leaves under your feet, but still there are enough to rustle in the late-afternoon breezes, flocks of birds ganging up and swilring as they gather for their long flights north. i could go on, but probably shouldn't, right? in short: the feeling you get from listening to "nice day for a sulk" c) i was sorry to see ian watson feeling like he should apologise to the list. even though i live far far away and will in all likelihood never get to how does it feel, his mails about it have inspired to me to such a degree that i am now (as from monday last - a fitting birthday present, ian?) the host of my own, shamelessly derivative night at a small club in stellenbosch (the samll town where i study), called "is 'derby' pronounced 'dirby' or 'darby'?". not knowing of ANY indie nights/clubs in the WHOLE of south africa, a friend of mine and i decided to be pro-active rather than the usual whingeing, and organised. monday night saw a massive rent-a-crowd, BUT everyone seemed to have a great time, we kept on playing till an hour after the bar had closed, and to top it all, the owner was so impressed that instead of the voluntary monthly night we had initially envisaged (on monday nights, because they are usually the most quiet), we now are getting PAID to play every wednesd! ay (also known as "little saturday" in stellenbosch)! of course the biggest thrill was seeing people actually dancing for the whole extended version of fool's gold, then coming back to ask for more, interrupting conversations to dance to "electronic renaissance" and "string-bean jean" and swaying gently to mogwai and trembling blue stars. so, for a little while at least, indie is alive and kisking in s.a. again, and i for one would like to thank ian and all the other hosts of similar nights who have contributed to this. so, that's it for my life. then i've been thinking of a few ways of disseminating the gospel (in south africa, where no radio station has ever touched b&s, and you have to order even the albums especially on import as no record stores stock them, this is very important!) so here are a few tips, which have actually worked for me (i am proud to say that as a direct result of the following, at least 3 people i know of have actually gone out to buy albums!) 1.) make mix-tapes, and lots of, as birthday presents, congratulations on all kinds of things, when people are feeling down etc. load them HEAVILY with b&s numbers. not only will this introduce people to new music and make our heroes rich and popular, but is also a good way of showing friends you care with a personalised gift and give you the opportunity to spend housr sorting through your record collection and listening to your favourite songs, while being credibly able to maintain that you are "doing something useful" 2. whenever you go on a long road-trip with someone, make a special road-trip tape (see above) and then 'forget' in car at the end of the trip. i even did this once when using a rental car. of course i don't know how that turned out, but i can dream can't i? 3. take your by-now filthy b&s shopping-bag everywhere, being at all times careful to have the logo visible and on your outside, even when said bag is in a state of repose on the ground. wear your b&s ampersand (or, where applicable - which would probably mean you were lucky enough to be assigned the lovely katrinastrator as you xchangee - sinister xmas xchange custom-made t-shirt and/or badges obessively, and of course be ready to shoot your mouth off about the band the list etc at the slightest provocation (eg. discussions about the above, scotland, "7 steps to storytelling" etc) bear in mind the motto: "lose a friend but gain a fan"! soon, if you are in an isolated part of the world, and feel you cannot share your love of the band with anyone, you'll only have yourself to blame! (well, sort-of...) well, i shall retreat to my lazy lurkerdom now, to emerge when next i feel the need. stay well, sinister, and as always, thanks for brightening every day just a little! lotsa love JohaN +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jvic at xxx.br Thu Apr 17 15:08:24 2003 From: jvic at xxx.br (jvic at xxx.br) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:08:24 -0300 Subject: Sinister: i hope i live to relive the days gone by Message-ID: <200304171408.PAA04698@missprint.org> I found Shallow Hal a pretty good film. Maybe not all pretty people are bastards, and not all ugly people are nice, but this is a comedy movie, so it stereotypes some kinds of people. It's not a portrait of real life. But still, makes us think about some issues we live in real life. Victor. Em 15 Apr 2003, Christine Irene escreveu: >greetings to the sinister posse. it is a rather balmy >85 degrees in chicagoish today. our attempts to play >outside were foiled by the fact that the youngest of >my charges is afraid of the outdoors. well, not the >entire outdoors, just wind, leaves, and birds. you >can imagine how this might impair an outing. maybe you >can't. > >the weekened was odd. i woke up saturday morning with >the most exhilerating sense of optimism. "this is my >day i thought." i honestly felt i was going to win >the lottery or something. so i went to get the post >from my PO BOX. i got a letter from my bank saying >that the balance in my checking account was -281.64. >there went my lucky streak. >a chance encounter led me to meeting my cousin >colleen, whom i never see. she and i, and her 2 kids, >went to grab some lunch and had a nice visit. on >saturday night i saw "Bend It Like Beckham." I love >that movie! i was going to see it in oxford when i >was there last year....i couldn't find the movie >theatre though :o) my cousin, who is newly 14, and >his best friend tyler, asked if they could go to the >cinema with me....they're pretty cool, as 14 year olds >go, so i said ya. they hated it. i told patch (my >cousin) that i didn't really care...he owed me a movie >he disliked as he made me take him to see "Zoolander" >last year. what a shite movie. sept the fountain >that sprayed gasoline :o) > >speaking of movies. have you seen that movie "Shallow >Hal?" i dunno. it just seems offensive to every >group of people. all of the aesthetically pretty >people have ugly souls, all of the unattractive people >have this gorgeous inner beauty...very sterotyped i >think. the overweirght girl orders 98 cheeseburgers >and breaks a chair. i dunno. i like to think that >pretty people can be nice and that un-pretty people >can be bastards. also, i dont think that people with >wieght problems necessarily eat all of the time. >weird. ah well. i have seen it a couple of times >and, honestly, i don't know that they are trying to >pigeon hole people like that, i think it is just >supposed to be about this shallow guy who finds true >love in a less than perfect package. i dunno. i >really don't like gwynyth paltrow though. i think she >is a pretty awful actress. it surprises me how many >british people i know think she does well using a faux >british accent...i think she sounds awful! ah well. >who cares. she gets to shag chris martin, which is >more than i get to do. > >i have a couple of new sinister friends...jinnifer >(who needs to post more) and rachel fruitloop >*blushes* > >i sent an off list email to someone yesterday. it got >me to thinking about us lot and our personalitites. i >was thinking that most of us are probably pretty >similar. sort of shy, a little bit "quirky", more >likely to hide in a corner than barge into a room full >of strangers and command attention. somehow, in the >confines of sinister, we are really social and >un-awkward. i love sinister. > >ah well. i sp'ose i have said my piece for the day. >love to you all. stay safe and happy. :o) > >ps...on a sad note...i heard that investigators in >california found a woman's body and that of a full >term fetus. they think it may be that woman who >disappeared on christmas eve. i hope not. i hope she >is in montana being happy and just left because her >husband was a knobhead. i really hope it isn't her >:o( > >love ~stine > >"i'm proud to have an udder like my father...no, my >mother!" hee hee...one of my favourite lyrics of all >time > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From retrosec at xxx.uk Thu Apr 17 20:28:48 2003 From: retrosec at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Retro^Sec?=) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 20:28:48 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: reporting back from the other side Message-ID: <20030417192848.79254.qmail@web13104.mail.yahoo.com> hola Sinister Well, last night was the gig of the Belle and Sebastians, raising money to help fund the Sunbed Alliance advertising costs for a month. Following from a haircut with which I am perfectly pleased (bob, with undercut, and short cutsie fringe that goes against the grain of this seasons long rock-chick eye-skimming fringes. Hey, I don't follow trends, I do my own thing), I went through to Glasgow to meet with the friends, and the fans of the belle and sebastian. I would say shouts to the people I saw, but I had to shout anyway cos it was really busy, and I pretty much said Hi to them all, so no point in doing it again. The pre-gig atmosphere was pretty cool, just hanging out chatting to folks. The band apparently weren't due on til 10:30, so I headed off, got a bite to eat and enjoyed a glass of wine that made me deliciously tipsy, then headed back to the venue. The setlist of the jukebox was pretty darn cool, often one of those little side effects from being in a pub half full with Belle and Sebastian fans. Then everyone headed down to the gig. But that was when it was time for yours trully to head homewards. I'd had enough to drink, it was the last train home. I didn't go to the gig. Hell, I'm seeing them next month. I'd rather save them for special occasions. I remember the joy of the first gig, and the second. The third was pretty good, but the first time.. well, it was the best. And now? its easter holidays! yay! Am looking forward to the pastels gig next weekend though. This will be a first: not seen the pastels before. Thank you idleberry ===== http://retrosec.blogspot.com/ thoughts __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mess_up_my_hair at xxx.com Fri Apr 18 03:51:49 2003 From: mess_up_my_hair at xxx.com (Alex Goffey) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 12:51:49 +1000 Subject: Sinister: holidays in the sun Message-ID: Oh hello again Sinister! It's Good Friday and the obligatory Good Friday midday movie is on TV. It's all old hollywood cinematic melodrama, as the religious films always seem to be. Normally it's The Ten Commandments or Ben-Hur, but this year they've opted for other films. Richard Burton's in this one, I think, looking young and, I must say, quite fetching hehe. Holidays bring so many good things. LOTS of creme eggs, lots of exhausting my bank account to as little as possible whilst trying to maintain an appearance of "no really, i AM saving for my holiday" (but in the end just failing dismally), and, sadly, lots of trying to catch up on crappy uni work. Ugh. It's only a week holiday, but it's a break nonetheless. And I have better things to look forward to in my next break... For those of you in London, I'm requesting your assistance! I shall be making an antipodean jaunt to London and to Sweden in June/July and I'd really like to know good places to go, recommendations, whatever. Oh, and if anyone wants to show me around, then that would be great too. I'm staying in Kilburn so even directions for the tube would be appreciated hehe :) Holidays also give me a chance to listen to my new cds that I've amassed in the past few weeks. I finally bought myself a copy of 'Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like A Peasant' at last and I'm disappointed that nobody ever put 'Family Tree' on a mixtape for me. Oh I love that song - hell, I like it all. Listening to it driving down the highway was perfect. The same day I bought new lucksmiths, which you should all go out and buy because a. it is lucksmiths, and b. it is good. Argh the advertisements just came on really loudly! Happy Easter everyone :) alex xx ========================================= The best looking boys are taken The best looking girls are staying inside http://www.geocities.com/veruca_salt_97/ http://darlingalex.diaryland.com/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones.�Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From innerlemming at xxx.com Fri Apr 18 05:39:05 2003 From: innerlemming at xxx.com (laurel lemming) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 21:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: thank-you note Message-ID: <20030418043905.48806.qmail@web41010.mail.yahoo.com> thanks to caitlin and lucy and all the reporters-back. this is why we're on sinister; thanks for sharing for all the people who couldn't be there. it sounds like it was magical. lem __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayeckard at xxx.com Fri Apr 18 09:48:53 2003 From: jayeckard at xxx.com (Jay Eckard) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 08:48:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Oh, Him. He's Just like the Music he listens to: Short, sweet and as twee as pos Message-ID: Damn that little butterfly Boy from MSN. Damn him and his short subject lines. I am loquacious, by gad, even prolix. I need my space. Fortunately, I seem to have enough of that of late. I moved, you see. Across town to a proper little house in Durham. It's quite cheap and very nice. Even the cat likes it, he's all picking fights with the new tomcats. Probably losing, as he is my cat, and consequently well, short and pretty twee. For a kitty. He's been sporting a little badge on his collar -- along with a bell -- that has MERGE RECORDS on. Merge is the label than M Bond and Essex Green are on. Also the Magnetic Fields used to be, but they moved. Anyway, M Bond and the Essex Green rock. Or rather, they Pop. You should look into them. Alex went on about the new Lucksmiths. I think that's great. I'm in my "I Love the Lucksmiths" phase right now. I listen to "Off with his Cardigan" every day as I get ready for work. It makes me happy even before my 4 or 5 shots of espresso. I can't wait to hear new stuff. Speaking of Great and New and Australia, there's this band called Architecture in Helsinki. Two of their songs were sent to me by that noted World Traveller, Phil-two. They also pop quite hard. Go also and listen to them. I am currently preparing my little new place for the arrival of one Laura Llew. The cat will be decked out in all his finery and waiting to stare at her. They're close like that. She's coming to see the Delgados. Well, she says that, but I think she's here to stock up on booze and boys. Or at least hang out in bars and look at boys. Like Gordon the Bartender or Damon Who Never Looks at Me. Speaking of not looking at me, there's this boy who comes into my shop who is hott, hott, hott and I finally realized why. He's a dead ringer for Jeff Buckley. AND he has a twin brother (who doesn't look quite as much like Jeff -- it's the hair, I think). I am of course quite in love. Though THAT always turns out badly. Except for Mark Cassaratto (Which is similar to the actual spelling if not the actual spelling) who sent me BUS PORN! That's right, actually adult pictures of the No 22 Bus to Putney Common. It was so much I had to stop blogging for days. Days, I tell you. Well, this has gone on quite long enough and it is very late. Today's payday, so I have booze to drink and debts to pay. Later, yo l'Autre (Gay) Jay This post brought to you by New Order, "Bizarre Love Triangle" from their new Retro comp., "Poor Boy, Minor Key" by M Bond from his Transfiguration of Vincent album, Lazy Line Painter Jane, "By the Sea" by the Essex Green from their album The Long Goodbye and "Brittle Women" by Glass Candy from their disc "Love Love Love". PS: Whoever did something inappropriate with me and Miss Crush better 'fess up quick-like. That ain't decent, yo. PPS: Speaking of "yo", be very careful of the sites you visit at work. I went to the blog of a certain person on the list who frequently says "yo" and the boss walked in. "Um, no boss, I SWEAR it isn't porn!" I said when he chastised me for looking at adult sites. "Then why is there a picture of a boy in dishabille?" he rather reasonably enquired. "Umm." I said. "I know that's your thing, Jay" he said sternly "But NOT AT WORK!" Now I'm all confused if by "my thing" he means being gay, gay porn, gay porn at work, or gay porn at work of Sinister Boys. -- "The Posby falls into a Trance In which it does a little Dance." Edward Gorey _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Fri Apr 18 17:42:10 2003 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 16:42:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: pumpkin Message-ID: Whoa. The Belles played a teeny gig in Glasgow? Where have I been??? Oh, right. Locked in my parents basement in wee Rhode Island, being force-fed Doritos and Hot Tamales and ginger ale until I puke. Goddamn figures. Anyway... I've actually been on holiday with my lovely sweet Belle boy, introducing him to the wonders of glutton consumerism... and my scary parents, who actually didn't get scary until he left and they tried to sneak broccoli into my system. Nothing like eating shit food and buying lots of cheap clothes to lift my spirits. And make me pine for Glasgow once again. Last night I went to the video shop and stared at lots of titles I had never heard of. I picked Pumpkin, a Christina Ricci film. Has anyone else seen this? If so, why didn't you mention that 'Stars of Track and Field' played a starring role? As did the Gentle Waves. Dude. What a pleasant surprise. Thanks to everyone who replied to my last pleading post. Sorry I haven't responded to y'all personally yet, but I shall. Eventually. Your reward will be a somewhat complete transcript of a special interview. (When I'm done typing it out.) So much to do. So little will to do it. I should be off preparing thesis interviews. Mmmm. See some of you soon. Not soon enough. Miss you. *mwah* -stacey _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From minster at xxx.net Fri Apr 18 18:18:48 2003 From: minster at xxx.net (minster at xxx.net) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 17:18:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Further to Risso and to Champion Casarotto Message-ID: <20030418171848.WJRS5167.fep04-svc.ttys.com@localhost> I find it only slightly ironic to be coming out of the woodwork after 3 weeks away to second the sentimentality of Mark and Risso. At least it felt a bit soppy to me. My own sense of history brings me to a place and time in life that there are certain things you could rely on. The fact that someone was ALWAYS feeling sinister was it, even if only slightly or briefly. It's what brought us here. To say 'old' is to imply history- and the cast of players in this little number have afforded the sinister story a rich plot, with an undeniably colourful and checkered history. In a word 'devotion'. Never in my life have I ever know people more devoted to an idea, emotion, or another. As a collective, I'll tell you this- you'll never find amongst people more swagger, sway and stumble all in good measure. Nor will you find more friction and fusion. Oddly it came bounding around in strong and strangely- but I'll remind those of you who can remember it truely is something to remember fondly and admire. And there was always something to talk about. In small but significant ways this lot has shaped and moved a bit of the path I walk now... I'm ever so thankful and bitter. It couldn't have happened to a more impressionable girl at the hands of an unforgivably right bunch of kids. Though I'm nearly 30 now... it doesn't feel old in sinister years- it just makes me feel experienced. So to Mark, and Trousers, To Pyth and even Swannie, to Risso and JJ, Rachel...to Beth and Andy and the Honey of a Mother. I'm keeping it close, I'm keeping it real. Devotion. Mark, you got your wish. __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Sat Apr 19 01:58:14 2003 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (Andrea Kittenmouse) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 17:58:14 -0700 Subject: Sinister: in which I run on about Animal Crossing, and Belle and Sebastian on the radio Message-ID: hiya, This is a pointless sort of post other than to say hi, I'm still here, how's life? I've been on #sinister a lot lately, talking with the likes of hobnob, caitlin, ken chu, mark, and the rest of em. It took me forever to figure out that retro-sec was the same person as idleberry. I'm so bad with names, especially when there's more than one. We had our yearly pledge drive at kpsu these last two weeks, and it went poorly, unfortunately. It's hard to ask other people for money for a college radio station when you and a huge percentage of the nation are unemployed and broke. I got myself a minidisc recorder, and because of that, I can now play Animal Crossing music on my show. If you don't know what Animal Crossing is...well, there really isn't a videogame more twee than Animal Crossing. I also am going to have another Belle and Sebastian A to Z Marathon soon, with another dj at the station who does a show an hour after mine ends, called Twee Cozy. I'm not sure when it's going to be on, but it's going to last about 5 hours. Also, I think I found a live recording of the Portland 9/11/01 show, so we may play that sometime too. I'll post something about it when I figure out the dates if you want to listen on the internet. Alright, gotta run, more later, Andrea K. Mouse andrea**kittenmouse radio*mondays 9-10 pm PST kpsu 1450 am in portland, oregon in realaudio at www.kpsu.org kittenmouse at hotmail.com web.pdx.edu/~andreay _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angelas1980 at xxx.com Sat Apr 19 03:28:44 2003 From: angelas1980 at xxx.com (angela smith) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 21:28:44 -0500 Subject: Sinister: tonite Message-ID: I know this is a little bit late and off topic, but for anyone in the chicago area...my roommate's boyfriend is throwing the fischerspooner afterparty at the royal at milwaukee & fullerton....starts at 10pm. I'll leave everyone alone now. angela _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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That's fine and well with me, but I've not always got my B&S to listen to and when I get in that mood I can get quite itchy to listen to them. That makes for a rather unpleasant time for all around. Happy Easter and all that rot (being candy!). Happy Passover to the Jewish. I woke this morning with a nice basket of candy things waiting for me on the kitchen table in a basket shaped like an egg. I helped myself to the treats and went back to bed. There's nothing quite like chocolate in the mornings! I hope all of your Easters are going well. Seeing as I've really nothing more to tell or share with you, I'll leave you to it. Have a nice Easter. Judy ------------------ *so bring the hats out we all need a laugh *crestfallen, boys are boring (I don't know which way I'm going anymore) _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Tue Apr 22 15:30:11 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 07:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: nobody said it was easy, no one ever said it would be this hard Message-ID: <20030422143011.78266.qmail@web40611.mail.yahoo.com> hi everyone. i hope that this email finds all of you well. the sun is shining today, but that is about all that is nice about it. easter was nice. i hung out at my gram's and didn't argue with anyone. yesterday was shit. it was my friend katie's birthday and i wasn't planning on seeing her until this weekend. i tried to finish making her present but my burner just wasn't having it. i went to katie's house after work and she gave me an easter basket. i felt like an arse. it was her birthday and she was giving me a gift. when attempting to make plans, she got into an argument with her boyfriend. i decided to go and leave them some privacy. i got to my car and checked my voicemail where i had a message from someone i owe money to. oh yeah, i forgot to mention that, according to my atm print out, i have exactly $0.00 in the bank. so i was all upset and driving along listening to "The Scientist" by Coldplay on repeat. I must have been in my own little world because, when i noticed the police car behind me, i promptly got over to the right side to let him by....unfortunately, when i stopped, so did he. it seems i was going 39 in a 25. i don't doubt this was true, i had no idea how fast i was going. my eyes were too blurry to see most things anyway. just as officer friendly was going to his car to write up my ticket, the line "nobody said it was easy, it's such a shame for us to part. nobody said it was easy, no one ever said it would be so hard. take me back to the start." i was thinking of how nice that would be. to just start over. a whole new life, a new set of rules. situations i would be more prepared to handle. situations that i would be in control of. as i continued listening to the song, letting chris martin soothe me as best he could, i was thinking about gwyneth paltrow and how unfair things are. she is tripe, in every capacity (based on little fact as i don't know her personally) and she gets to have a boy who can sing to her like that. can you imagine knowing stuart murdoch really well? can you imagine how nice it would be to, after a shite day, have him sing you to sleep. you could go through anything at all, and him singing would make it all go away. he could sing anything and i would believe him, simply because he has the voice of an angel. that would be nice. so mr. policeman returned and gave me my ticket. he then informed me that, since he was so nice, he was only going to give me 1 ticket and a warning for not having changed the address on my drivers license. after that, i was hysterical. i know that everyone's life is hard at times. the thing is, when it's your life, the tried and true cliches of "that's life" and "it'll be okay" just don't seem to hold muster. i called my mom to cry to her. she told me to quit driving and settle down a bit. then my step dad got on the phone and proceeded to yell at me; "why are you so upset? everyone gets speeding tickets." "becasue i have no money in the bank, i owe everyone money and i have to go and look at a place to live tomorrow and i have no idea how i'm going to pay for it." "well settle down. you're a grown woman, you're going to have to learn to deal with this shit without getting hysterical." somehow, i found his words less than consoling, so i hung up and cried harder. i was going to go to work, i was right near there. then i decided that i didn't want the girls to see me like that. so i went back to katie's house. she opened the door and she was crying. she looked at me and i was crying. she was still fighting with her boy, so we went out for coffee and traded tales of woe. this is exactly how we spent her birthday last year. birthdays are crap. so that is my weekend in a nutshell. well not really. saturday was nice. the family that i work for gave me money for easter, so i decided to get my hair cut and coloured, which i hadnt done for ages. while at the salon, my massage therapist came over to ask how my health has been and how i had been doing about my dad and all. i told her that a couple of weeks ago i was trying to get an appointment with her, but she was busy. she told me that she had a 4:00 opening. knowing fully that i am (as ordered by a doctor) *supposed* to get massages weekly, decided to make the appointment. i figured, at the very least, i have the money that i got for easter. to kill time, i went to the irish shop ( my favourite one) near my salon. i fell in love with a white gold, diamond and sapphire claddagh....it was $500, so i didnt buy it. i opted, instead, for 4 rolls of pastilles ( i love those things!) and was on my way. my massage was lovely and christine, my therapist, told me that my back was extremely tight and that i needed more time with her. i told her that i just can't afford to see her weekly. i know i need to. i know i'm supposed to. i told my doctor once that i would be more than happy to get weekly massages if he paid for them. he just looked at me. they cost a dollar a minute, that adds up pretty quicklky. so anyway. now i am at work. no one yells at me here. i don't owe anyone money here. the girls love me and i them. it's a nice place to be. ~stine __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ailsa_watson72 at xxx.com Tue Apr 22 19:29:48 2003 From: ailsa_watson72 at xxx.com (Ailsa Watson) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:29:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: *another oldie de-lurks* Message-ID: Blimey, it's been a while. Mark has inspired me to write for two reasons. One because he's been banging on about great old folks from Sinister history who never post, and DIDN'T MENTION ME, and secondly because he asked if anyone had a spare standing ticket for the Glasgow gig. Which apparently someone did. As do I. Which means I still have one. Does anyone want it? Mail me off list please, and it will be sorted out (or not if lots of people mail me as I only have one). someone said >In small but significant ways this lot has shaped and moved a bit of the >path I walk now... I'm ever so thankful and bitter. >It couldn't have happened to a more impressionable girl >at the hands of an unforgivably right bunch of kids. >Though I'm nearly 30 now... it doesn't feel old in sinister years-it just >makes me feel experienced. Which is almost exactly how I feel about Sinister. It's given me some of my best memories, my best friends, and it'll always have a place in my heart for that. Even if I don't need it so much any more, it's nice to know it's here. And that it still matters to people. Actually the reason Mark maybe never mentioned me is because I have nothing to say. Sorry. Ailsa xx _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/mobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Wed Apr 23 12:27:05 2003 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:27:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ease The Streets in the BBC Message-ID: Hello everyone, hope you're having fun. For some reason it feels like Autumn even though spring has just begun. And april rain, falling on my brain, the one that melted due to work strain. Haven't written to you lot for a while, workload running up to a pile. It is vile. Right, enough of talking like the streets. The word on the street is linking is the new shit. Just really to mention here (in case none of you check the B&S website) that there's a fairly good interview with Stuart Murdoch with the BBC. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/scotland/specials/electric_honey/index.shtml ?section=belle In which he talks about how he formed the band and stuff and recording Tigermilk with electric honey, and having a LATE NIGHT ROMP with Stuart David in a dirty hotel in France! What's more, at one point of it Sturan said "Shit"! \m/ rawk \m/. My favourite bit of it are the two lines right at the end, but unfortunately according to the B&S website Sturan isn't responsible for those two lines. -- In other news, Easter Holidays was so great, I spent 4 days pretty much sleeping and playing darts, in which we successfully defeated the wrath of Darth Moore (whose darts to my surprise were not double ended). http://www.darts.com wow you can buy professional Dart Bags! -- And last Thursday I went to "How does feel to loved", which is becoming one of my favourite clubs in London. If only because I always look such a Charming fella in it... as shown in http://www.howdoesitfeel.f9.co.uk/jan3.html I was going to write more, but I'd only bore. People all comatose on the floor. etc. Ken P.S.: Is £2.50 a good price for The Streets' album on e-bay? ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted in it are confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator at uclh.org. This footnote confirms that the email and attachments contained no viruses when they left UCLH. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Wed Apr 23 17:36:18 2003 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:36:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sad singers they just play tragic In-Reply-To: <20030422143011.78266.qmail@web40611.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I was thinking about these words from 'Stine... > > as i continued listening to the song, letting chris > martin soothe me as best he could, i was thinking > about gwyneth paltrow and how unfair things are. she > is tripe, in every capacity (based on little fact as i > don't know her personally) and she gets to have a boy > who can sing to her like that. ...when I opened the paper to discover that Winona Ryder is now meant to be going out with Conor Oberst. Can that be true? Wouldn't the world have spun off its axis by now if it was? Not that I'm saying that she isn't good enough for him or he for her, it's just that going out with a self obsessed, raven haired, doe eyed and utterly gorgeous film star has got to feel like some sort of manifest destiny for the man who wrote the line "I need some meaning I can memorise" and is obsessed with mirrors. I feel like applauding. Instead I'll just replqy "Lover I Don't Have To Love" over and over in my head and wonder when I'll be getting my record collection back. There - not a bad word in sight. x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jvic at xxx.br Thu Apr 24 03:09:05 2003 From: jvic at xxx.br (jvic at xxx.br) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 23:09:05 -0300 Subject: Sinister: nobody said it was easy, no one ever said it would be this hard Message-ID: <200304240209.DAA24136@missprint.org> I've just listened to this song (The Scientist), and i don't know why, but it made me feel a little sad. Don't know. Didn't have a bad day or anything. It's such a sad song... Reminded me of a quote from the High Fidelity movie: "What came first, the music or the misery? People worry about kids playing with guns, or watching violent videos, that some sort of culture of violence will take them over. Nobody worries about kids listening to thousands, literally thousands of songs about heartbreak, rejection, pain, misery and loss. Did I listen to pop music because I was miserable? Or was I miserable because I listened to pop music?" Victor. Em 22 Apr 2003, Christine Irene escreveu: >hi everyone. i hope that this email finds all of you >well. > >the sun is shining today, but that is about all that >is nice about it. > >easter was nice. i hung out at my gram's and didn't >argue with anyone. > >yesterday was shit. it was my friend katie's birthday >and i wasn't planning on seeing her until this >weekend. i tried to finish making her present but my >burner just wasn't having it. > >i went to katie's house after work and she gave me an >easter basket. i felt like an arse. it was her >birthday and she was giving me a gift. when >attempting to make plans, she got into an argument >with her boyfriend. i decided to go and leave them >some privacy. > >i got to my car and checked my voicemail where i had >a message from someone i owe money to. oh yeah, i >forgot to mention that, according to my atm print out, >i have exactly $0.00 in the bank. so i was all upset >and driving along listening to "The Scientist" by >Coldplay on repeat. I must have been in my own little >world because, when i noticed the police car behind >me, i promptly got over to the right side to let him >by....unfortunately, when i stopped, so did he. it >seems i was going 39 in a 25. i don't doubt this was >true, i had no idea how fast i was going. my eyes >were too blurry to see most things anyway. >just as officer friendly was going to his car to write >up my ticket, the line "nobody said it was easy, it's >such a shame for us to part. nobody said it was easy, >no one ever said it would be so hard. take me back to >the start." i was thinking of how nice that would be. > to just start over. a whole new life, a new set of >rules. situations i would be more prepared to handle. > situations that i would be in control of. > >as i continued listening to the song, letting chris >martin soothe me as best he could, i was thinking >about gwyneth paltrow and how unfair things are. she >is tripe, in every capacity (based on little fact as i >don't know her personally) and she gets to have a boy >who can sing to her like that. can you imagine >knowing stuart murdoch really well? can you imagine >how nice it would be to, after a shite day, have him >sing you to sleep. you could go through anything at >all, and him singing would make it all go away. he >could sing anything and i would believe him, simply >because he has the voice of an angel. that would be >nice. > >so mr. policeman returned and gave me my ticket. he >then informed me that, since he was so nice, he was >only going to give me 1 ticket and a warning for not >having changed the address on my drivers license. > >after that, i was hysterical. i know that everyone's >life is hard at times. the thing is, when it's your >life, the tried and true cliches of "that's life" and >"it'll be okay" just don't seem to hold muster. > >i called my mom to cry to her. she told me to quit >driving and settle down a bit. then my step dad got >on the phone and proceeded to yell at me; "why are you >so upset? everyone gets speeding tickets." > >"becasue i have no money in the bank, i owe everyone >money and i have to go and look at a place to live >tomorrow and i have no idea how i'm going to pay for >it." > >"well settle down. you're a grown woman, you're >going to have to learn to deal with this shit without >getting hysterical." > >somehow, i found his words less than consoling, so i >hung up and cried harder. > >i was going to go to work, i was right near there. >then i decided that i didn't want the girls to see me >like that. so i went back to katie's house. she >opened the door and she was crying. she looked at me >and i was crying. she was still fighting with her >boy, so we went out for coffee and traded tales of >woe. this is exactly how we spent her birthday last >year. birthdays are crap. > >so that is my weekend in a nutshell. > >well not really. saturday was nice. the family that >i work for gave me money for easter, so i decided to >get my hair cut and coloured, which i hadnt done for >ages. while at the salon, my massage therapist came >over to ask how my health has been and how i had been >doing about my dad and all. i told her that a couple >of weeks ago i was trying to get an appointment with >her, but she was busy. she told me that she had a >4:00 opening. knowing fully that i am (as ordered by >a doctor) *supposed* to get massages weekly, decided >to make the appointment. i figured, at the very >least, i have the money that i got for easter. > >to kill time, i went to the irish shop ( my favourite >one) near my salon. i fell in love with a white gold, >diamond and sapphire claddagh....it was $500, so i >didnt buy it. i opted, instead, for 4 rolls of >pastilles ( i love those things!) and was on my way. > >my massage was lovely and christine, my therapist, >told me that my back was extremely tight and that i >needed more time with her. i told her that i just >can't afford to see her weekly. i know i need to. i >know i'm supposed to. i told my doctor once that i >would be more than happy to get weekly massages if he >paid for them. he just looked at me. they cost a >dollar a minute, that adds up pretty quicklky. > >so anyway. now i am at work. no one yells at me >here. i don't owe anyone money here. the girls love >me and i them. it's a nice place to be. > >~stine > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clairk at xxx.edu Thu Apr 24 04:33:16 2003 From: clairk at xxx.edu (kevin m. clair) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 22:33:16 -0500 Subject: Sinister: not really a point to this Message-ID: <3165176352.1051137196@RIVENDELL> Hi, The other night I had a dream where I had gone to Chicago for a Belle and Sebastian concert. I was sitting around in the subway in Chicago at the Jackson stop waiting to transfer to the red line to go to the show, which apparently was at the Metro, and somehow I had fallen asleep in the subway. It was really well-lit. I was woken up by this dude I know named Jack, who told me that it was 2:00 in the morning and the concert was over. I responded by punching out a window which was in the subway for some reason. I don't know why it was such a violent dream, as I'm not a particularly violent person and glass hurts. It's still the most awesome dream ever. I haven't written in a while, which is mostly because I'm lazy and didn't really have anything to say. Now I'm just not lazy anymore. I've been hanging around in #sinister a bit lately; I think I said that in my last e-mail. I'd do it more often if it weren't for this school business. I've also been doing a radio show, which this term has gone surprisingly well. We have public affairs segments and singalongs. I don't think we have a very large audience but my friends who listen seem to enjoy it. There are mp3s. I'm going to go see Yo La Tengo in June. And probably the Faint in May. That should be fun. I will also be in Minnesota this summer. I expect to contract both Lyme disease and the West Nile virus by August. Also I will be in Chicago a lot, hopefully not punching windows or sleeping in the subway. whee. Since I know like one person on this list, I am in favour of some sort of social gathering this summer. Not that Chicago needs excuses. Andrea Kittenmouse pointed me to the Animal Crossing website last night. I don't really know how to feel about it. I'm not going to run out and buy a Gamecube to play it but if you own one you should definitely get it, and then tell me about it, because it's amusing. I'm always a bit surprised by how far video games have come from the days of King's Quest IV, but Duck Hunt is still awesome. So I'm pretty off track at this point. Basically what I have to say is that spring is great, and I'd like for summer to not show up, really, except for the part where I don't have school then. not the news from lake wobegon, -kevin "You should never wear your best trousers while going out to fight for truth and freedom." -- Henrik Ibsen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From muzzlepipe at xxx.uk Thu Apr 24 09:00:55 2003 From: muzzlepipe at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Matthew=20Clift?=) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 09:00:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Just thought I'd say... Message-ID: <20030424080055.35928.qmail@web20706.mail.yahoo.com> ...Hello all, First-time poster, long-time reader (to paraphrase the radio phone-in spiel). Nothing much to say, just thought I'd introduce myself as I've been reading your wisdom/musing/rambling for a few weeks since I joined Sinister and I was starting to feel like an eavesdropper... so I thought I'd crowbar my way into the conversation. About me, hmm... I live in South Yorkshire and I've only been into B&S for a year or so. Seemed to discover them just as life was going tits-up i.e. my marriage broke up, and it's fair to say that they helped me through some really shitty months. Now that things are on an even keel, and I'm enjoying single life all over again at 30 (and 10 days) I find that they still mean as much to me as they did then. Know why...? Because B&S don't remind me of the crap times, they remind me that no matter how crap the crap times are, you can put on a CD and be transported away from them... at least for a while. That's the power of all great music, not just B&S... Anyway, I'll leave it there before I disappear up my own arse. Thanks for reading this far (if you still are). Can't wait for Glasgow May 17th when I pop my B&S live cherry. Will no doubt see some of you there (even if neither of us will be aware of that fact). If anyone fancies replying, either via Sinister or direct, then please do... I'm quite a nice bloke when you get to know me, honest. Cheers, Matthew. __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com Thu Apr 24 13:39:41 2003 From: paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com (Paulo Stinsoni) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 12:39:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Spaghetti Message-ID: Bonjour tout le monde, Ca Va? Do you remember all those French lessons starting like that? (when learning French as a foreign language that is) Oh how I miss Marie France et Claudette. Well, on 3rd April I had a vasectomy (http://www.langton-medical.co.uk/Vasectomy.htm) and I've been in pain on and off since. I really want to go into all the nasty details. Can I? I want to share it. OK, seeing as I got a little ESP stylee message in my brain saying it was OK to talk, then I will. **Stop here if you're squeemish*** You have to lie back on the operating table, and the surgeon (not to be confused with Sturgeon, that's a fish) injected my, ahem, area, and proceded to make a small (1cm) cut, and then pull out my left hand side piece of spaghetti with a crochet hook... I can't go on, but you can get the details from the link. I was awake through the operation, and the surgeon (not a fish) used a funny laser/electro cutter to make the cut. It kind of burns through your skin, and I could smell burning flesh... OK I'm stopping. Anyway, after all that I was laid up for a week, unable to walk about, except in a painful way (probably due to the clamps I had on each of my, ahem, thingys during the op) and I looked like John Wayne (I think it was the big hat and the chaps that did it) I had an ice pack on the area for the week. Anyway, the pain comes back, not as sharply, but it still comes back now and then, and I just don't think it's fair. I tell you what though, B&S mixed with Devil May Cry 2 makes you feel better, so if you're thinking of it, get a PS2 and an ice pack. See ya P. _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/mobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com Thu Apr 24 13:39:29 2003 From: paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com (Paulo Stinsoni) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 12:39:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Spaghetti Message-ID: Bonjour tout le monde, Ca Va? Do you remember all those French lessons starting like that? (when learning French as a foreign language that is) Oh how I miss Marie France et Claudette. Well, on 3rd April I had a vasectomy (http://www.langton-medical.co.uk/Vasectomy.htm) and I've been in pain on and off since. I really want to go into all the nasty details. Can I? I want to share it. OK, seeing as I got a little ESP stylee message in my brain saying it was OK to talk, then I will. **Stop here if you're squeemish*** You have to lie back on the operating table, and the surgeon (not to be confused with Sturgeon, that's a fish) injected my, ahem, area, and proceded to make a small (1cm) cut, and then pull out my left hand side piece of spaghetti with a crochet hook... I can't go on, but you can get the details from the link. I was awake through the operation, and the surgeon (not a fish) used a funny laser/electro cutter to make the cut. It kind of burns through your skin, and I could smell burning flesh... OK I'm stopping. Anyway, after all that I was laid up for a week, unable to walk about, except in a painful way (probably due to the clamps I had on each of my, ahem, thingys during the op) and I looked like John Wayne (I think it was the big hat and the chaps that did it) I had an ice pack on the area for the week. Anyway, the pain comes back, not as sharply, but it still comes back now and then, and I just don't think it's fair. I tell you what though, B&S mixed with Devil May Cry 2 makes you feel better, so if you're thinking of it, get a PS2 and an ice pack. See ya P. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com Thu Apr 24 13:38:28 2003 From: paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com (Paulo Stinsoni) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 12:38:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Spaghetti Message-ID: Bonjour tout le monde, Ca Va? Do you remember all those French lessons starting like that? (when learning French as a foreign language that is) Oh how I miss Marie France et Claudette. Well, on 3rd April I had a vasectomy (http://www.langton-medical.co.uk/Vasectomy.htm) and I've been in pain on and off since. I really want to go into all the nasty details. Can I? I want to share it. OK, seeing as I got a little ESP stylee message in my brain saying it was OK to talk, then I will. **Stop here if you're squeemish*** You have to lie back on the operating table, and the surgeon (not to be confused with Sturgeon, that's a fish) injected my, ahem, area, and proceded to make a small (1cm) cut, and then pull out my left hand side piece of spaghetti with a crochet hook... I can't go on, but you can get the details from the link. I was awake through the operation, and the surgeon (not a fish) used a funny laser/electro cutter to make the cut. It kind of burns through your skin, and I could smell burning flesh... OK I'm stopping. Anyway, after all that I was laid up for a week, unable to walk about, except in a painful way (probably due to the clamps I had on each of my, ahem, thingys during the op) and I looked like John Wayne (I think it was the big hat and the chaps that did it) I had an ice pack on the area for the week. Anyway, the pain comes back, not as sharply, but it still comes back now and then, and I just don't think it's fair. I tell you what though, B&S mixed with Devil May Cry 2 makes you feel better, so if you're thinking of it, get a PS2 and an ice pack. See ya P. _________________________________________________________________ Overloaded with spam? With MSN 8, you can filter it out http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=32&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From another_late_night at xxx.com Thu Apr 24 21:53:33 2003 From: another_late_night at xxx.com (Ian porter) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 21:53:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: There was a pregnant pause before she said yeees Message-ID: How great is this. I asked this girl I know (Lucy) if she would come to our schools end of year ball thing (Dunblane Hydro, be there or be square). And she said yes How fantastic is that? Shes really lovely and everything, shes GOING TO THE BALL WITH ME. The last time i was this happy with a girl was when, erm, well THAT WAS AGES AGO. So its good, right? I'll have to hire a kilt now. I dont want to wear one of those stupid Prince Charlie jackets, you know, with the silver buttons and the weird cut and the general daftness. I want a like, tweed jacket, but you can only wear them in the daytime apparently. I looked them up, and it looks like the Argyll semi-formal jacket is the one for me. I wonder what my tartan is. It better not be really green. Now, if i can just work out what 'going to the ball with..' actually means, ill be sorted. Sorry for the triviality of this post, I just had to say something. Ian _________________________________________________________________ Overloaded with spam? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rabidpenguin at xxx.com Thu Apr 24 21:08:22 2003 From: rabidpenguin at xxx.com (s. lord) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:08:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: it could have been a brilliant end to a career Message-ID: hello everyone - first off a big thanks to paul stinsoni for the wonderful and yet somewhat nauseating description of his surgery - i for one - know now i will never be getting such a thing - not that i was ever interested - personally i - i really don't have much to worry about getting a girl pregnant - since i like boys instead - but still it was nice to know - hope the boys are feeling better now - second - stine~ wrote about coldplay and the song the scientist - and i wanted to say that the song also evokes the need to cry in me - i am not sure exactly what it is - but that song is just really touching - when i hear it all i can do is think about when my friend was in the hospital and i suddenly turn into his wreck of a person - which i guess means that they really did their work - to write a song that has an effect like that on people is powerful - very impressive - so there was a point to this post - but i have since forgotten it cause i am watching cartoon network - and there is a show on here about hamsters - honestly - i have never seen this before in my life - i usually watch cartoons in the afternoon when i get home from school - but i am so completely confused as to why there is a cartoon about hamsters - for what i just watched - there is really nothing to interesting in the show - the kids who owned the hamster - had a problem with her dad and the hamster kept her company and made her forget the problem - that was it - what the hell was that! - not to mention the hamsters - there are many of them who belong to other kids - escape from their cages and all meet up to chat and share snacks - i am not sure what to think of this show - perhaps if i watch it more it will grow on me - or maybe i will just hate it - now i remember what i was going to say - so i will be graduating here in two weeks and two days - after five years of college - i can say that i am really not as jazzed about this as i thought it would be - i figured i would be completely happy to get out of school and finally start my life - instead i am just kinda ho-hum about the whole thing - ya i graduate - oh well - i now need to find a job - this is kinda disappointing - i was hoping for more then this - and it is a let down as of yet - but i guess i still have about two weeks for it to get better or for something to happen - oh well well for now that is all - hope everyone is doing well - much love to you all - --scott lord ------------------------------------------------------ what we place most hopes upon, generally proves most fatal - vicar of wakefield _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Fri Apr 25 10:03:10 2003 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:03:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Fwd: Mon Dieu, c'est un pique-nique! Message-ID: <20030425090310.30762.qmail@web14206.mail.yahoo.com> Aw, heck, I must have done some kind of keyboard shortcut by accident and sent the message before it was ready. And I didn't even notice! The one with the complete title differs only slightly, but it is the finished version. Cheers ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ ************************************************** The Winchester Club http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Fri Apr 25 11:54:11 2003 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 11:54:11 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: Sinister: indie boi Message-ID: Glad to see that the mighty crunching wheels of Glasgow picnic planning have started to roll; of course not having a beach is a big flaw but it can't be helped ;) I look forward to hearing Reports Back of bad dancing, mass arrests and lewd acts with Ribena. On a smaller and more imminent scale, there is still the option of a Sinister meeting at/before the London Go-Betweens gig on Monday if anyone fancies it (or indeed, fancies either me or the Gingerfox or both, cos, er, we'll be there). Email me, yo. I don't think Sinister's ever heard about someone's vasectomy before. We truly are getting more fascinating every day and I don't mean that sarcastically. Coming soon: 'Smear Test Diaries'. Sadly I can't offer anything so exciting, but that won't stop me dragging everyone down to my level. The grand(ish) tradition of the pastiche has been a bit neglected lately, so I decided to waste most of the morning at work composing this timeless ballad (maybe you can sing it to your girl at the ball, Ian P): **** Indie Boi He was a geek She was more chic Can I make it any more obvious? He wore brown flares She had Amelie's hair What more can I say? He crushed on her She'd never tell secretly she crushed on him as well But all of her friends Stuck up their nose They had a problem with his corduroy clothes. He was an indie boy She said you're too skinny boy He wasn't good enough for her She had a pencil case With Hello Kitty's face She needed to come back down to earth. Five years from now She sits at home Feeding the goldfish she's all alone She turns on TV Guess who she sees Indie boy on the Open University. She calls up her friends They already know And they've all got Tickets to see the show. She tags along Stands at the back to Look at the man and his protractor. He was an indie boy She said you're too skinny boy He wasn't good enough for her Now he's earned loads of cash Doing really hard maths Does your pretty face see what he's worth? Sorry girl but you missed out Well tough luck that boy's mine now We're discussing quantum physics And waiting for aliens to visit. Too bad that you couldn't see See the man that geek could be. There is more than meets the eye I've seen the way he can recite Pi. He's just a geek And I'm just a freak Can I make it any more obvious? We are in love Haven't you heard How we are happy being nerds? I'm with the indie boy The Mork to my Mindy boy I'll be backstage after the show I'll be in the studio Working out the formula For how much of a bitch you are... **** Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time. love Archel Lavigne xxx ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. Email submissions at buzzwords.ndo.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Fri Apr 25 09:51:55 2003 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 09:51:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: iquenique Message-ID: <20030425085155.26293.qmail@web14201.mail.yahoo.com> Ah, Sinister. When the birds start a-twitterin’ and the trees start a-blossomin’ and the sun starts a-shinin’, you know it’s time for a Sinister Picnic. And, seeing as your favourite band will be a-concertin’ too, why not go large and make it a Big Weekend? I bumped into Nal on the number 44 last night and we decided now was the time to start organising. She’s going to post to the Bowlie board and let them know these same details, so with our combined strengths, this one should be massive, man. Incidentally, we are hoping for a Sinister vs Bowlie footie match, so get in training now, lads. Just cos Sinister’s own Ronaldo, Ally Cook, will be in attendance, that doesn’t mean he won’t need back-up from wannabe Zidanes, Figos and Roberto Carloses. Anyway, here’s the plan: *Friday 16th May* The Winchester Club’s first birthday celebrations are the night before the gig! Apparently, this has aroused suspicions amongst some cynics that we’d changed the date to coincide with the Sinister Big Weekend. Nonsense! The night was booked back at the beginning of February. It is merely luck. And what great luck! For, performing for you that night will be none other than the Dudley Corporation, featuring Joss and Dudley, sometime of this very parish. In support, we have Belfast lovelies Language of Flowers. And then there’s dancing aplenty as Gav, Sarah, Carey, Ally and my good self (all sometime of this very parish as well) spin tunes for your dancing pleasure. It’s from 9pm-2am, costs a bargainous £3 to get in and you can find out more on our website here: http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club *Saturday 17th May* Yo, Jordan Knight from New Kids on the Block's birthday. And also picnic day! Pack a bag with food and drink* and bring it to Kelvinbridge Station for 2pm. Don’t go up the escalator onto the bridge itself – take the exit that leads onto the car park. Look out for a huge gang of people sporting the usual duffel coat/flares/nerdy specs/upside-down badges combo. Smile shyly and offer somebody a fag/swig of beer/dolly mixture. We will then proceed/stagger to the gig as and when we see fit (those of you who wish to start queuing at 4pm are, frankly, daft, but who are we to stop you?) *Sunday* RUIN. Bobby Conn and the Pastels are both playing on Sunday night, so there are options if you’re feeling a bit less ruinous by eventide. Right then, there’s your plan. If you’re of a nervous disposition and would like my mobile phone number, write me off-list. Juicy Lucy *Picnickers, please note: the Glasgow’s finest don’t like it when you drink alkyhol in a public place. For this reason, we recommend you bring only weak lemon drink or Ribena. Ha! Fooled you! Actually, we recommend you pour your vodka into a coke bottle or something equally inconspicuous, or just be very careful. Having been made to pour away my G&T by Juliet Bravo at a previous picnic, I know what I’m talking about, man. ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ ************************************************** The Winchester Club http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Fri Apr 25 10:00:27 2003 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:00:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Mon Dieu, c'est un pique-nique! Message-ID: <20030425090027.96650.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> Ah, Sinister. When the birds start a-twitterin’ and the trees start a-blossomin’ and the sun starts a-shinin’, you know it’s time for a Sinister Picnic. And, seeing as your favourite band will be a-concertin’ too, why not go large and make it a Big Weekend? I bumped into Nal on the number 44 last night and we decided that now is the time to start organising. She’s going to post to the Bowlie board and let them know these same details, so with our combined strengths, this one should be massive, man. Incidentally, we are hoping for a Sinister vs Bowlie footie match, so get in training now, lads. Just cos Sinister’s own Ronaldo, Ally Cook, will be in attendance, that doesn’t mean he won’t need back-up from wannabe Zidanes, Figos and Roberto Carloses. Anyway, here’s the plan: *Friday 16th May* The Winchester Club’s first birthday celebrations are the night before the gig! Apparently, this has aroused suspicions amongst some cynics that we’d changed the date to coincide with the Sinister Big Weekend. Nonsense! The night was booked back at the beginning of February. It is merely luck. And what great luck! For, performing for you that night will be none other than the Dudley Corporation, featuring Joss and Dudley, sometime of this very parish. In support, we have Belfast lovelies Language of Flowers. And then there’s dancing aplenty as Gav, Sarah, Carey, Ally and my good self (all sometime of this very parish as well) spin tunes for your dancing pleasure. It’s from 9pm-2am, costs a bargainous £3 to get in and you can find out more on our website here: http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club *Saturday 17th May* Yo, Jordan Knight from New Kids on the Block's birthday. And also picnic day! Pack a bag with food and drink* and bring it to Kelvinbridge Station for 2pm. Don’t go up the escalator onto the bridge itself – take the exit that leads onto the car park. Look out for a huge gang of people sporting the usual duffel coat/flares/nerdy specs/upside-down badges combo. Smile shyly and offer somebody a fag/swig of beer/dolly mixture. We will then proceed to a spot in Kelvingrove Park which will be quite close to a pub called the Tap (on Sauchiehall Street) in case it rains. Later, we will proceed/stagger/be carried, unconscious, to the gig. *Sunday* RUIN. Bobby Conn and the Pastels are both playing on Sunday night, so there are options if you’re feeling a bit less ruinous by eventide. Right then, there’s your plan. If you’re of a nervous disposition and would like my mobile phone number, write me off-list. Juicy Lucy *Picnickers, please note: Glasgow’s finest don’t like it when you drink alkyhol in a public place. For this reason, we recommend you bring only weak lemon drink or Ribena. Ha! Fooled you! Actually, we recommend you pour your vodka into a lemonade bottle or something equally inconspicuous, or just be very careful. Having been made to pour away my G&T by Juliet Bravo at a picnic last summer, I know what I’m talking about, man. ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ ************************************************** The Winchester Club http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Fri Apr 25 20:00:40 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: play me a song to set me free Message-ID: <20030425190040.12649.qmail@web40608.mail.yahoo.com> hi everyone! against what the weathermen have forecasted...the sun is *somewhat* shining today. the youngest of my charges decided, out of the blue clear sky, that she is tired of diapers (nappies for those of you in the UK). she is doing a great job thus far. her 2 attempts at using the potty proved fruitless....though promptly upon completing her second try...she went all over her clothes :o) it must be funny to not know how to use the loo. can you imagine how weird it would be if, as adults, we wore nappies all of the time? though, it may be a time saver occasionally, it would be more uncomfortable than anything.....i would imagine. so what is new with everyone lately? it was nice to see archel post...the list has been really quiet of late. it's funny how it goes in waves like that...i'll have 493 posts in my box one day and 3 another. :o) not much is new here.....the potty training thing is my excitement for the day...sadly. my bosses have a benefit to go to tomorrow, so i'll be here for a few hours in the pm. it is also one of my boss' birthday on sunday....i have NO idea what to buy him. he is, without question, the hardest person that i have to buy for. oh well. olivia, the youngest of my charges, has been very into pavement lately. you should hear her sing "Cut Your Hair." is v. funny! :O) on the audio side....have had John Mayer in my Hi-Fi for awhile. i got it before it was on sale to common people, as i was still in the throes of marketing and the like back then....(i miss free cd's) anyway, i fell in love with it, and, for the better part of the past 18 months, it has kept me sane. i think it has a lot to do with him being the same age that i am...we are in similar places in life. i heard him do an interview in which he was discussing the song "No Such Thing." he explained that the song was just about being so frustrated at this point in life. knowing that you are a reasonably intelligent person who has amazing potential, and how frustrating it is to try to figure out what that potential is. i love that album. it's just acoustic based songwriting stuff...he reminds me of a modern, more rockin james taylor type. really nice melodies, easily identifiable lyrics, etc. he isn't into drugs though...least not yet. here are the lyrics of one of my favourite tracks: GREAT INDOORS � Check your pulse it's proof that you're not listening to The call your life's been issuing you The rhythm of a line of idle days � Scared of a world outside you should go explore Pull all the shades and wander the great indoors The great indoors � Lamplight makes the shadows play And posters take the walls away The T.V. is your window pane The view won't let you down So put your faith in a late night show I bet you didn't even know Depends on how far out you go The channel numbers change � Scared of a world outside you should go explore Pull all the shades and wander the great indoors � Though lately I can't blame you I have seen the world And sometimes wish your room had room for two � So go unlock the door And find what you are here for Leave the great indoors Please leave the great indoors � Check your pulse it's proof that you're not listening to The call your life's been issuing you The rhythm of a line of idle days sometimes it's just easier to stay inside, surrounded by the things that make you feel comfortable. surrounded by things that are familiar and, one would hope, soothing. aww. i love john mayer. i really do. on the chris martin front...read that he and gwyneth had a huge falling out at a gig and are on the rocks... (ducks so you can't see nefarious grin) ah well. i s'pose i shall go now. i hope that y'all have a lovely weekend :o) today i finally overcame, trying to put the world inside a picture frame... ~stine __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmhyde at xxx.edu Sat Apr 26 00:37:31 2003 From: kmhyde at xxx.edu (Kevin Hyde) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 19:37:31 -0400 Subject: Sinister: just a new genre to propose- date-rape rock Message-ID: <000701c30b83$a3ef34d0$ac72ef80@wm.edu> Hi Sinister, Yup. That subject line is quite a doozy. But look here: my roommate and I had been talking, some weeks back, about the sort of pseudo-academic taxonomy that are genre names in music, and how it might be fun to just try to come up with a few of our own to propagate. So, Stine's post reminded me of one of the names we had tossed back and forth- date-rape rock. And the main practitioner of said genre? John Mayer himself. It works like this, I think (and, by the way, I just wanted to disclaim about a few things here- I'm not intending this in any kind of elitist condescending way. I enjoy JM, if mostly by merit of his insane vocal similarity to Dave Matthews + looking like he could be Matthews' younger and skinnier brother. Etc.)- Take your average frat-boy who likes JM a whole pantload. He likes to play him both to chill and rock out. Also, John Mayer can turn a phrase here and there, maybe at a level of wordplay the frat-boy hasn't quite worked himself up to. Said F-B can play John Mayer (or even some of the lighter Dave Matthews, see "Crash"), and by doing so, show some proximal girlie that he is sensitive enough to appreciate not only John Mayer and his gentle brand of smooth rock, but also is savvy enough to exhibit his endorsement of John Mayer by playing him in public, thereby somehow admitting his allegiance to such sensitivity. Our little F-B is endorced by and endorces John Mayer, and the barre-chord drunk chica has no choice but to fall for this little trick. Or so me and my roommate would like to think. I'm constantly on the lookout for some Post-Mayer practitioners of Date-Rape Rock, so let me know if you all find any. Besides that, huh. I almost set fire to a large residential complex the other day by trying to barbecue with charcoal for the first time in my life. Before anyone starts questioning my manhood, let me just add that I know how to work a *gas* grill as well as your average suburban father. But charcoal- whole nother story. I had some trouble using the matches that were provided, and it was almost scarily windy outside, so I decided, heck, why not use my cigarette lighter to get these briquettes in the mood. I picked one up in my hand, and had it cupped in my hand off to my lee side, and had just gotten the lighter to spark barely, when the thing was blazing, right there in my palm. Instead of just letting it go, I kind of threw it. Unfortunately, I also managed to adrenaline-propel that little sucker into a trashcan full of paper and other crap, and, uh, that started to catch fire too. Luckily, one of the girls who works for me was far less hypnotized by the flames (and is far less prone to saying things like 'whoa, that's awesome' when things break or are immolated, unlike myself), and grabbed some of the ice we had handy for the picnic, which had melted, and put out my (if I may say so) bitchin' refuse-fire. And for the rest of that night, I smelled like a combination of charcoal powder and meat, which hey, I hear that's like the equivalent of catnip to the ladies. Anyway, it's raining lightly here, and I'm listening to the new Ted Leo disc. It's good. I needed to buy another guitar album after such a long period with an aural diet of Matmos and Jan Jelinek. This is the last day of classes at the college that I work for, and all the students are wandering around drunk. I can't even begin to do it justice. Hope you're all well, Kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Sat Apr 26 16:24:26 2003 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 15:24:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: "I want to fall in love and have a baby - That's my main goal in life .... Message-ID: That and finding a good drug dealer." My little poppets, my pigsnies, my pudgy pals ~ Again, I've been straying from my goal of posting to you frisky little devils each week so I've decided to repent and right myself once again. Even if I can't think of anything to write because when has that ever stopped me before? My latest activity of recent has been reading articles like this: http://www.gawker.com/03/01/003089.html and seriously considering taking up hard drugs. If I did, I would probably be substantially thinner and have nicer cheekbones and aren't those the really important things in life? Also, I would love to be able to sincerely make statements like, "My friend tried to not do drugs for a while and he was like 'this is a nightmare! I have to sleep eight hours a day. I'm tired all the time. I wake up and it takes me three hours to get up, and then I'm tired in the afternoon.' For months he was like that" with conviction. Other than reading gawker and wishing I lived in NYC, I haven't been up to much - unless you count working two jobs during tax season, a roadtrip to Maine (nothing like a jaunt to the other end of the country for a nice weekend trip), and then a short dash of eight hours to go see the Delgados play and chuckle it up with GayJay while being ignored by another NC sinister scenester, Damon. Evidently, the gay jay and I watched a video with sexually graphic gay scenes while I was there and I had NO idea. Honestly, it didn't even phase me and I didn't even really think it was even very graphic. Perhaps, it's because I've always think that that kind of ting should have an effect on me. Of course, that would make a boy in a particularly pair of foxy glasses sexually explicit but not Queer As Folk. I believe I'm starting to see the flaw in my thinking. I came into work early this morning because there is a bridal fair next door which a lot of other main street businesses are participating in. I, being the caring active merchant I am, just wanted to get down here early to support them. That and I knew that parking would be a bitch. Of course, I had no idea how bad since there's also some kind of charity walk going on so the streets are lined with these pre-teen Lolitas all wearing ridiculously short shorts and randomly spastically jerking (I think they call it "cheering"). There's also two bible preachers on the corner duking it out through the scriptures. It's really amusing and I'm glad I brought my camera. However, I know by noon that I'm going to curled in a ball crying for my mommy. Or at least for the rapture. I apologize that I don't have any belle and sebastian content. The Delgados have stringed instruments and hail from Scotland - isn't that close enough? If Stuart Murdoch ever wants to hold an exclusive charity concert (raising funds for girls with glasses of course) in my bedroom, then I'd be happy to supply content ridden posts to your heart's delight (or instant failure thereof). xo, Ll PS - Happy Birthday shouts out to Mandee, Lauren Oranges, and that York schoolboy James T who all celebrated this week. And great post shouts out to the two Kevins. PPS - Thanks to GayJay for being the hostess with the mostess in letting me stay at your place, making me mad blush in front of cute waiters, and watch racy gay sex scenes. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From benapps at xxx.com Sat Apr 26 21:33:46 2003 From: benapps at xxx.com (Ben Apps) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 21:33:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: my chip shop-ing days are over Message-ID: Archel reminded us of the long lost art of the pastiche. This one has been gathering dust for a few weeks now: The Loneliness Of A Middle Aged Goalkeeper I'll take a second of the day to think about the goals that we�ve let in this year We�re 3 nil down, the pouring rain, I'm in between the frog and railway�s sticks again The full time�s looking colourful It's the colour of pub lager and protection of an open goal An open goal is wide on the field Wide on the field Wide on the field 'Til the posts come down. The right back, Ricky, slates the opposition but it doesn't mean that we will show studs There's a throw-in up the line, we'll pay the ref to add some time, and off we go (thud) The full time�s looking wonderful It's the wonder of the magic sponge and muddy pitches everywhere, no one cares Oh, you care I know You care I know You care I know Is it four nil or five? (guitar solo) On a soggy afternoon spent in dispute you'll give yourself a headache, ref So he took my name for hauling down their bleeding striker and a pen he gave! Have you seen the loneliness of a middle aged Goalkeeper, When he stops the ball and looks around Just like big Dave, He�s past it now The ball hit the stanchion Ball hit the stanchion Ball hit the stanchion Won't you welly it in? Ball hit the stanchion Ball hit the stanchion Ball hit the stanchion Won't you welly it in? Take care. I'm going to play with my lego now. Bapps ----------------------------------------------------------- www.brapps.net _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cjdevaney at xxx.uk Sun Apr 27 14:40:05 2003 From: cjdevaney at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Christopher=20Devaney?=) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 14:40:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Lovesick on a rainy afternoon........ Message-ID: <20030427134005.7335.qmail@web13708.mail.yahoo.com> In a vague attempt at "content" good to hear we can expect a new album from fellow jeepster jump shippers snow patrol in the summer. Although on the other hand it also means being deprived of the Reindeer Section for the foreseeable future. Now to the nitty gritty. I need some help from Sinister females (and males if you have anything to pass on). I need to show a girl how much I love her. Short of plonking a ring on her finger (which believe me I would love to do but circumstances forbid it at the moment) I can't think of the best, most grandiose and original way. But I know the Sinister massiv will be able to help me out with this one. Big love, Chris __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cjdevaney at xxx.uk Sun Apr 27 15:24:41 2003 From: cjdevaney at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Christopher=20Devaney?=) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 15:24:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Lovesick on a rainy afternoon........ In-Reply-To: <20030427134005.7335.qmail@web13708.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030427142441.40944.qmail@web13703.mail.yahoo.com> --- Christopher Devaney wrote: > In a vague attempt at "content" good to hear we can > expect a new album from fellow jeepster jump > shippers > snow patrol in the summer. Although on the other > hand > it also means being deprived of the Reindeer Section > for the foreseeable future. > > Now to the nitty gritty. I need some help from > Sinister females (and males if you have anything to > pass on). I need to show a girl how much I love > her. > Short of plonking a ring on her finger (which > believe > me I would love to do but circumstances forbid it at > the moment) I can't think of the best, most > grandiose > and original way. But I know the Sinister massiv > will > be able to help me out with this one. > Big love, Chris >P.S. Email me off list if you like at the address at the top of the message > __________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Plus > For a better Internet experience > http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister > mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail > sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe > sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: > http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart > david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly > deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - > NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List > organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" > - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee > kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan > slut! +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From retrosec at xxx.uk Sun Apr 27 21:04:07 2003 From: retrosec at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Retro^Sec?=) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 21:04:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: praise for songs on Songs of Praise Message-ID: <20030427200407.52088.qmail@web13103.mail.yahoo.com> I had planned to go and live in New York. In a street that reminded me of Edinburgh. I wanted to get away from everything. I didn't want to just travel, I wanted to live. To pay rent. I found this perfect flat, but it cost £400 a month. I was only planning to go for one month, but I hadn'r saved enough money. Silly girl, I am. If I had, I may have been able to afford it. So instead, I walked along Princes Street in Edinburgh, wishing I was in New York. ********* I was watching Songs of Praise. Pam Rhodes was sitting on a bridge, one of those old fashioned bridges that is very wide, and cobbled. Like somewhere in a grand European city, the sort of bridge that dates from the 17th century. She was interviewing George W Bush, and he was talking about his faith in Christianity. They tried to get a choir or a brass band to play, so that he could sing "Onward Christian Solidiers", but as everyone was so anti-war, they couldn't find anyone to play. It was a little embarrassing for George, as he sang on his own, without a band. And perhaps even more embarrassing, when they decided to dub over it with songs from Belle and Sebastian's Storytelling album, in particular "Big John Shaft". It was amazing to watch it on the telly. Aparently, the producer of the show is a huge B&S fan. Afterwards, since it was such a sunny afternoon, I went to a church, called St Giles. It was apparently named after him because that was where he took his last breath, and fell down dead, under an oak tree that grew next to the steeple. The church was next to a little river, with a leafy avenue and a cobbled path leading up to a stone bridge over the river. I was standing at the bar, in the shade, where the church was selling alcoholic drinks. Next to me, was Stuart Murdoch. He was waiting patiently, as I was. On the other side of me was a brown haired girl. Stuart was bored, and quietly started to sing "I don't want to play football" to relieve his boredom from waiting to be served. The barman turned to the girl next to me, and thinking it was her singing, asked if she would join the church choir. She said yes. Stuart sighed. "Thats the problem" he said to me, "they all think I sing like a girl". ******** I went home, and proceeded to write a sinister post about the Songs of Praise sighting. I wrote the subject line "Praise for Songs on Songs of Praise". It seemed rather fitting, when I woke up, to tell you this. Love idleberry ===== http://retrosec.blogspot.com/ thoughts __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Sun Apr 27 22:08:26 2003 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 21:08:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: don't leave the Coldplay on repeat baby Message-ID: s.lord said: >>wrote about coldplay and the song the scientist - and i wanted to say that >>the song also evokes the need to cry in me << Coldplay also always evoke the need to cry in me. Like when my old downstairs neighbours used to play at 5am, almost ritually, every night, both Coldplay albums, one after another. My flatmate was at the brink of breakdown until they moved out. One time in my local pub my friend overheard one of the downstairs neighbours (who happened to be at the pub also at the time) making one of the most defining statements in musical history. Man: "There has been no good bands since the 1960's you know" then followed by: Man: "...except Coldplay" ROFL That tune about yellow though is fun to play on the guitar and warbling over. And also the tune about Shivering you can change the words to sing about erections. and Stine~ talked about getting a speeding ticket, I remembered the time when "a friend of mine" got caught speeding by the speed camera that was pretty scary as he really didn't want 3 points on his licence, and his dad has moved to live in Hong Kong but was still the registered owner for the car, so he shifted the blame to his dad who's had a clean licence for the past 20 years... nice! This friend of mine is remaining anonymous in case there's any cops who are on sinister. Can people be friends with themselves? Ken P.S.: Paulo gave us three servings of his Spaghetti Meatballs, yummy. I don't have any similar stories to tell yet but, tomorrow I'm might be getting some BIORE. So brace yourself for a reporting back. I have a feeling that I'll be pulling out something grosser than Paulo's Vasectomist. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/mobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Mon Apr 28 00:31:47 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 23:31:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Verity the Superagent Message-ID: I was standing at the back of Cardiff's number eight bus when I saw Stuart Murdoch come on and pay his sixty p. It was a bit of a squeeze; he had to stand right up there by the driver with his feet wide apart to stay still on the corners. I was standing just up the step at the back, where I always like to stand if the bus is too full, because you get to look down on all the people and their books and bald patches and Page Three Lovelies. Also, on the race round Death Junction the step gives an added element of danger. So I decided that what he would like to hear on an early morning like this would be for someone to tap "I could be dreaming" on the standing-room-only bar they were holding on to. No one else seemed to be doing it, so I decided to give it a go myself. I tried to be subtle: a few people looked around, but when they did i was casually glancing out of the window. He didn't seem to notice, though. In fact he got off the bus on the very next stop, pulled down the cuffs on his Woolworth's uniform and headed off along the street. I dunno, I thought he'd have liked it; it would have brightened up his morning. Maybe it wasn't him after all. Maybe the reason I keep thinking I see members of Belle and Sebastian round town is because I'm getting exited about seeing them next month. I am, and I'm getting excited about visiting Glasgow too. The last time I was there was, I think, when I was fourteen years old. The last time I saw my Great Auntie Margaret. She used to live in a high-rise flat in Bearsden, surrounded by other elevated old folk, all boxed up with their wood-panelled tellys and silver teaspoons like pharaohs in their pyramids, waiting for the weekend coach to the other side. But I didn't think Auntie Margaret was ready to go so soon. We sat behind the window, pretending we were on the balcony, and watched the squirrels that ran up and down the sides of the high rises eating the crumbs that no one would admit to leaving out but everyone did. They were great, and not at all timid. One even came and sat on the edge of the balcony, as if it was listening to my aunt tell me she'd heard that Paul Daniels, her favourite magician, had invented a new type of magic called Jazz Magic. So, to me, Glasgow is a place of aunts and squirrels and broken lifts. It'll be strange to go there again, a different person almost. The squirrels will still be there I suppose, storing up their acorns like gifts for a trip to the other side. But not dear old Auntie Margaret. I wish she was. A bit of proper content now. Stuart's been a little inspired recently, giving us this: http://www.banchory.net/belleandsebastian/030421.html and this: http://www.banchory.net/belleandsebastian/030424.html . I think his writing is grate. As is that of Paulo, my new favourite Sinisterine. Gloriously random. Thanks for that tale about your spaghetti, Paulo. I'll be sticking to baked beans from now on, I think. robin x [ by express delivery : http://www.superatomic.co.uk/blog ] _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sftweeindieguy at xxx.com Mon Apr 28 05:13:03 2003 From: sftweeindieguy at xxx.com (Nick Davis) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 21:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Yo La Tengo in Italy Message-ID: <20030428041303.26664.qmail@web20703.mail.yahoo.com> Is anyone planning on seeing Yo La Tengo in Turin, Rimimi, or Bologna in late May? And, is there anyone in Italy who can advise on how to buy tickets in advance for those shows? I'm going to be visiting from San Francisco. Thanks, Nick __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Mon Apr 28 08:59:36 2003 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:59:36 +0700 Subject: Sinister: riding a bicycle by yourself is fine Message-ID: hello, Riding a bike up a hill and then coasting down the other side is one of the most simple yet rewarding things you can do. All that teeth-gritting hard work, the ache in the back of your legs, the sweat on your forehead, your heart beating hard, then the sheer exhilarition of reaching the top and coasting dowhill, the wind flowing through your hair and whistling in your ears, your heart pumping euphoria and joy into your veins. My year has been like riding a bike up a hill so far. It has been shit really, full of people leaving and me being stressed and busy. Honours has been more intense than I imagined and I have just reached that busy part of semester where you realise that you have a lot of assignments due very soon and they need a fair amount of work still. I just have to keep working hard and try not to get too down, which I have managed to do thus far. It has been tempting on occasion to just turn around and roll back down, to rid myself of all the stress and hard work, but I know that reaching this peak is something I have to do. I'm not building leg muscles, but I'm building character. Or so my Dad would have me believe. June 25 is the day I turn 24, and that is about the time I think I am going to reach the top of my hill. I have no classes after that and can just concentrate on my thesis. All the testing I have to do for my thesis will be finished, and I'll be doing research for my department and getting paid a very tidy hourly rate. CD's, books and clothes will be purchased, an interstate trip may be had. A few of the people who left will be returning, and plans are being made for a Book Club and maybe even a once a month indie night at a club or pub. And I'll have time to read fiction again! And there should be a new Belle and Sebastian record, and maybe they'll do a world tour and play in Australia... I just hope this hill I'm climbing isn't one of those ones that doesn't have a downhill bit on the other side, you know when you find that the hill you just climbed is only the start of a long upwards journey. If that is the case I'm coasting back down and getting my car. love terry PS. OZ/NZ listee's, email me if you want to be involved in an Anzac Tape Tree. I promise that there won't be any marching. here's what i think: http://naivetysucceeds.blogspot.com caitlin and terry's sinister recipe tree archives: http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/sinifood/ ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com Mon Apr 28 10:19:12 2003 From: paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com (Paulo Stinsoni) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 09:19:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Spaghetti continued Message-ID: Ah don't worry, I wasn't going to drag it out (with or without a crochet hook) but as you were all interested, I feel I should close off the story, with a happy end (pun intended). Thanks for all your interest, (is it affection, or is it like staring at a road accident, both hideous and compelling?) I just wanted to let you all know that it all seems to be OK now. There is no pain. I can walk properly, jump up and down, and fit into tight trousers, so we can all rest easy. I tell you what though, I'm not having one of those vasectomies again. Bye then, and sleep well. Love Paulo _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rclander at xxx.com Mon Apr 28 13:17:59 2003 From: rclander at xxx.com (Richard Lander) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 20:17:59 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Reach For The SARS References: Message-ID: <000d01c30d80$3637fe00$0202a8c0@ibmg6snbjaelz4> Hello everyone Cheers to Ken for the following overheard quote from his obviously demented former downstairs neighbour. > Man: "There has been no good bands since the 1960's you know" > > then followed by: > > Man: "...except Coldplay" It had to take something earth shattering to shake me from the lethargy that set in after the 9 July 2000, because that was the last time I posted. Since then I have slowly sunk into the kingdom of lurkerdom where, unless Keith Watson is still here, I think that I have possibly set a record for longest time between posts. I really have been here all the time and I have felt like posting too but then I am seized by indecision or fear of being contentious, possibly due to the fact that when I posted on Wed, 12 Jul 2000 making an fairly non-controversial comment about Stereolab somebody sent me an email blasting me for my preference for their earlier records. Anyway thanks to Chris Martin's biggest fan (apart from Gywneth) I have returned. Someone mentioned Snow Patrol and their status as Jeepster jumpers and it set me thinking as to whether there are any bands etc. still signed to Jeepster or have they all buggered off. Belle & Sebastian gone to Rough Trade, Looper to Mute, Snow Patrol to Black Lion (according to their Flash happy website) and even Ian McCulloch has just released new record on Cooking Vinyl. Whats left? Just little Isabel or has she jumped ship to sign a mega deal with Sony. I met Ken when he came to Hong Kong at the beginning of this year, we had a good chat and a few beers in Lan Kwai Fong. I'm still in Hong Kong by the way, almost 7 years, and no I don't know anyone with SARS. I'm sure B&S will give us a miss just like other music stars who have recently cancelled, the Rolling Stones, Moby and Andy Williams. See you in 2006. Love & Light Richard Lander Lamma Island, Hong Kong +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Mon Apr 28 23:09:06 2003 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Rachel) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 23:09:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm tired of staying in... Message-ID: Sunlight falls through the window and music from ballboy plays from my stereo. The sunlight looks unusually pretty today. It shakes me from my state of perpetual daydream. I decide to leave the shelter of my mind and enter the real world. I catch a bus and travel past trees heavy with bright pink blossom. I sit outside drinking coffee watching the world pass me by. The real world involves interaction. I text a girl in Greece, a fellow sinsterine, a friend of the heroes, and a life long member of the dreamers movement, if you really want to know. She tells me: "sometimes I dream, sometimes I fly/and it's all because I do/ believe that we'll be still in love tomorrow"- She tells me Nixon says that. She tells me she needs a true love. I tell her she will find one. One day. I take some pictures and a young girl decides to pose for me. She looks sweet and happy and excited to be captured on film. She offers me her balloon. It reminds me of what someone from the german exchange once said: "There's nothing more inspiring than an act of kindness. Simple throw away things - general etiquette, passers by who are smiling, etc. " I talk to a stranger and surprise myself. It wasn't such a terrifying thing to do after all. I feel brave and talk some more to other strangers. People in burger king, people on family outings, people I already know. That's a lie. They talk to me. The world welcomes me. I'm not sure I'm ready to accept but its nice to know that the offer is there. Take Care Rachel PS for definitions of some of the more complex terms used in this post please consult dimitra's dictionary ************* If you're any sort of hero, you'll be fighting for what you believe in. You'll get tired, and worn down by the world. There's always somebody to tell you you're wrong....You can't always save the world. But you're a hero, so that won't stop you trying. http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk ***************** +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zoziepop at xxx.com Mon Apr 28 23:09:29 2003 From: zoziepop at xxx.com (Dimitra Daisy) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 01:09:29 +0300 Subject: Sinister: Dimitra's Dictionary Message-ID: Dear Sinister, In case you require clarification from Sunnyset's post here are some useful definitions for you: Real Life: All the things non-dreamers think life is like (a place where money is important, people are not nice and buildings are grey) esp. the ugly bits. It also contains things like gravity and the weather, which make it very powerful. (see: all around you) Dreamer: Person who values the thoughts in his/her head, whose world is filled with colour on a grey rainy days, who wants more from life and finds it within himself/herself. (For more information on how to spot them and what do with them see http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk/dreamers/) Friends of the Heroes(1): Bunch of crazy dreamers (see word) who think by devoting their time and energy to a weekly webzine they can make a difference. (see http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk/about/) Friends of the Heroes(2): Weekly webzine that openly embraces the dreamer movement, finds heroes everywhere and looks for the magical in the everyday. (see http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk/) Dreamer Movement: the act of leading one's life based on the faith that such elusive and futile things as love, happiness and money can come to one's possession and even that one can make the world a better place. (see http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk/dreamers/) Nixon: The very band that gave the world the line 'today I bought a record your new boyfriend has never heard of - oh I play it just for you' that makes indie kids the world over smile. Their association with the dreamer movement is vague however some people consider them to belong to it since their lead singer/songwriter/guitarist/bassist/drum machine programmer Roger Gunnarsson publicly admitted he believes love can make you happy. (see http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk/page2/) Ballboy: Band who gave the world the lyric 'it's alright, cause someday we'll be millionaires, and it won't matter then how other people treat you'. Their connection to the dreamer movement is somehow clearer since their frontman Gordon McIntyre deemed waking life without dreams as being 'useless and pointless'. (see http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk/archive/issue22.html#3) The German Exchange: Band that gave the world the notion of gentleman rock, a few great quotes on the meaning of life and five free cds to those who answer a few simple questions! (see http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk/page8/) Sinister: Mailing list that often makes dreams more possible and to which I owe a proper post. Till then, Think Pink, Dream Purple, Dimitra Daisy xx _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Apr 29 23:10:10 2003 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I had a dream.... of the sea... Message-ID: <20030429221010.17518.qmail@web41101.mail.yahoo.com> It�s odd sometimes, the way some things remind me of other things. I heard two seagulls today, as I was leaving home, and memories of going to Norway as a kid came flooding back. My mum, for those of you who aren�t aware, is Norwegian. She is from this tiny little fishing village, in the far north. Farther North than Trondheim, which is pretty far north to some people. Farther North than Tromso. Just stop before you get to Hammerfest on a map, and you�re there. It is only a small village, inaccessible by car, so we used to take a two hour ferry, that always made me sea sick. We�d go down into the lounge, and I would lie on the plastic cushioned benches, trying to ignore the sweet smell of waffle mixture and coffee, and trying to concentrate on watching a fuzzy picture of �Allo �Allo! with Norwegian subtitles being shown on NRK � the only TV station that hasn�t left the 1950�s in terms of the presenters appearance. When we arrived at the harbour, we�d be greeted by the scent of the seawater corroding the slimy metal of the boat, and the fragrance of fish in a nearby unit, having been recently caught, and the cry of the gull�s overhead. There isn�t much in the village, just beautiful houses made of wood, painted in any colour imaginable with a complimenting shade for the trim around the gutters and the window frames, and tarmac roofs. The gardens are usually neatly kept, and not particularly different to the garden you might find n the North of Scotland, with the exception of perhaps a local stream running down from a glacier through the landscape, or a towering white flagpole with the Norwegian flag flying at the top. None of the houses are more than 55 years old � The Germans burnt every building in the North as they fled at the end of the Second World War, leaving a wake of Norwegians trying to find shelter from the harsh winters. I read that one such group of Norwegians, on the other side of the fiord, found shelter for a long winter in an upturned fishing boat. There is a pub there, that seems to have a habit of being burnt down every five years or so. It is owned by this blonde man, who has lines of hair sewn into his head as a transplant. His scalp reminds me of a Barbie doll, the way those lines are so uniform. There is a post office in the concrete basement of a house. You go in, with your little key for the little steel post box. The houses don�t have numbers there; the address is usually the name of the recipient, the village and postcode. There is a beautiful little white wooden church, with a wooden steeple. Everyone from the village is buried there, and the graves all point out towards the whitest sand beach, and a cold, azure sea, and beyond to the mountains and glaciers. At Christmas, it is traditional to put a lantern on the graves, something I think is a lovely idea. I�ve never seen it in winter, but I imagine dark marble headstones poking out from feet of snow, and a dark grey sky (as the sun doesn�t rise above the mountains for a good few months in the winter) and all these little lanterns flickering in the wind. Memories of going to the boathouse, and tentatively exploring my grandfathers fishing boat, and my great grandfathers fishing boat, and my mothers old bicycle. Gazing in the dusty sunlight that creeps behind me through the doorway at an archive of old thick fishing ropes, and floats, a museum and a testament to the way it was. There is a barn where my grandparents used to keep animals. A huge wood barn, with two floors, and now filled with chunks of wood and timber used over the years, and old saws and a scythe they still use to cut the grass and scatterings of dried mouse droppings. People don�t bother knocking on your front door when they come to visit in the village. People leave the front door open. When a visitor comes calling, they usually take off their shoes and boots, and walk across the wooden floored hall with its rag woven rugs and scent of soap and cakes and fish. They knock on the kitchen door and let themselves in. Then a pot of coffee is put on the stove to boil, and the cakes are served and people stay for hours, sometimes until 2am, chatting and catching up. We used to go berry picking in the daytime, and try to avoid being bitten by the mosquitoes. There is only one television channel in service that we can get at my grandmother�s old house, NRK. It comes on around 6pm, and shows 1980�s Czechoslovakian animations for the children. Then through the evening, there will be a documentary, perhaps from the UK, with subtitles, and perhaps an old 1980�s comedy. In between programmes, there is a presenter, with immaculate hair, and a fresh faced look and perhaps a vase of flowers, speaking kindly to the presenter. And later on, an old film, from the 1970�s, perhaps from Paris. On rainy days, I�d lie in my great-grandfathers old bed (I was named after him) and write stories, or read books. In the summer, I could lie awake at night, until 4am, without needing to turn on a single light since it was still daylight. I�d go through a biscuit tin from Queen Elizabeth�s Silver Jubilee, of old photographs dating from 1890, of members of my family, and fading blue handwriting on the back of who they were. My mum would wash clothes in the stream, or in the twin tub that sits in the corner of the bathroom my dad and uncles built in the 1970�s. Before that, there was only a shed to go to, with a box and a deep hole cut into it that went into a pit and served as a toilet. In some parts of rural Norway, you still find public toilets like that. And then it was with the sound of cars driving past on the roundabout that took me from this daydream, and I still had to go to work, and I still had to take the train through the suburbs to the city. I wish I could take you there, I really wish I could. love and day dreams idles ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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