From ruth.allan at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 15:20:04 2003 From: ruth.allan at xxx.uk (Ruth Allan) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:20:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: sheffield Message-ID: hello sinister... now having searched the archives like I've never searched them for a former boyfriend's nuggets of wisdom before I couldnt find any references to the forthcoming sheffield event. but I feel concrete sure that I'm making a fool of myself and you;ve al been discussing this for weeks, as to whos meeting who and when and where and the likes, anyhow.. (business at work and lack of suitable email acccess is hampering my sinster snooping.) I am going to sheffield tomorrow, the night before my birthday woo! and having never met any real life current sinisters I was wondering if anyone else is going or meeting there, and if so maybe I could say hello. so, yes. get in touch. hope you're all good. ruthx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 16:23:14 2003 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C Stride) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:23:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: re: sheffield Message-ID: <3FCB6AF1.3487.14C0B25@localhost> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2949 bytes Desc: not available URL: From daisychain.amz at xxx.net Mon Dec 1 21:26:31 2003 From: daisychain.amz at xxx.net (Amy Baggott) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A twangy guitar Message-ID: <200312012126.AA2890072260@nownet.co.uk> Happy Advent everybody, Gosh, all these posts about Sinister goings-on in Sheffield is enough to make a girl feel quite homesick. How very typical that the band wait until I leave my hometown before deigning to play there. I know of at least one Sinister lurker who will be there, Ruth, and I expect she will mail you off-list to organise some sort of meet-up, never fear. Somewhat bizarrely, my parents and little sister are also going to see the band there, though, much as I love them, I don’t recommend you trying to arrange any sort of rendezvous with them. Does anyone else have parents who do this sort of thing, or am I really totally alone here? I think it’s great that my mum and dad appreciate the music I listen to, but find it sort of clunkingly wrong at the same time. Perhaps I’m just being ageist, but I find it hard to imagine my parents seeing the band in the same way that I do, or relating to their songs in the same way. Indeed, I really rather hope that they don’t relate to their songs in the same way as I do, otherwise I would have pretty emotionally screwed up parents. Anyway, enough of my ramblings. My real purpose for writing this post was to ask if any sort of Sinister meet-up was planned for the Edinburgh show. I’ve not met any Sinisterines up here, despite having been resident for over two months now and wearing my little upside-down badge on a near permanent basis, but suspect that several of you must be planning on attending the gig. If anyone is interested in organising something, erm, that would be nice. I would volunteer to organise something myself, but am not really sufficiently with it at the moment to even aspire towards taking on such a responsibility. Very feeble, I know. Am just listening to the Christmas Peel Session now. Stevie is truly GRATE when he sings “Nothing for Christmas”, especially the line about a twangy guitar. Mmm. I really hope they play the odd festive tune on the fourteenth. That would really make my Christmas complete. Well, short of Stuart turning up on my doorstep singing carols. Anyway, have fun at the gig tomorrow and of course at the Offbeat after-show party, you lucky Sheffielders. Love and Marks and Spencers deep-filled luxury mince pies, Amy Xxx P.S. Chris- if one of the Sinisterines in Bangladesh you mention is Corduroy Boy Tom Pettinger, I think you’ll find he is actually in Calcutta (but just as likely to be at the gig in Sheffield, I guess.) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elle_jane1 at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 21:35:27 2003 From: elle_jane1 at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?elle?=) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:35:27 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: 2 spare tickets for Friday's gig Message-ID: <20031201213527.1466.qmail@web25101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> i'll cut to the chase: two of my friends can't make it to the gig on Friday. does anyone want to buy the tickets? i'd prefer to sell to a sinister bod rather than put them on ebay. mail me now! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From benapps at xxx.com Mon Dec 1 23:49:08 2003 From: benapps at xxx.com (Ben Apps) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 23:49:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: It was a Sundae, and all my friends Desserted me Message-ID: A couple of days ago at work it was nearing the end of the day, and our receptionist, Vanessa, puts a call through to me. It's some crazy guy in New York City who's trying to get hold of one of the products that the company I work for makes. (FRENZY - Bulked Up texture, by Short Sexy Hair, if you're interested). So I start to give him the number for our New York distributor, when he asks me where I'm from. Now I get that quite a bit, what with my foreign accent and everything, so I tell him I'm English, and he seems pretty impressed with that and says "Wow! Like the Beatles huh?" he asks rhetorically. "Well, they're from Liverpool, which isn't too far from where I'm from", I tell him. He then starts to go through a list of firly well known British rock bands The Stones, Coldplay, Travis, The Charlatans (UK)! Elbow, Oasis, Doves, Stone Roses...etc. Then he stops and asks me who my all time favorite group is? I told him "I would have to say Belle and Sebastian", to which he replies "but aren't they Gay?". Maybe he's only heard the opening bit of The State I'm In, maybe he's just some dumbfuck homophobe, either way he's implying that a red blooded male like me shouldn't be into them. "Um I don't think so, but there are seven of them...", he clarifies "What I mean is you aren't gonna get any girls listening to Belle and Sebastian are ya?". I explain to him that it's quite the contrary and he mumbles something about not wanting to get me fired and hangs up. He probably reckoned I was some kind of internet mentalist or sumfing. Eric Brasure: No, I haven't been able to get hold of SIMOB in the states either yet. When I do it'd better have all 8 pages or there'll be hell to pay!!! Christine Irene: It's sweet you're dreaming about my as yet unborn children, but Rayma? What kind of a name is that? :) Let's have lots of reporting back from the UK shows pleeeeeease! I think that'll do for now, don't you? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sexychickswithheadwounds at xxx.com Tue Dec 2 16:11:57 2003 From: sexychickswithheadwounds at xxx.com (leyda campbell) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:11:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: out of the nursery and into the fire Message-ID: hello loves!! so nice to finally have a voice. its felt like an eternity waiting to get my ok to play. but here i am and i am so happy so let me tell you a story..... i just broke up with a no good boyfriend who disliked B&S and all things twee (why i was with him i'm not quite sure) and was having a great time as a single gal. i had forgoton how nice it was to have loads of free time with out answering questions or divulging motives. he, the ex we shall call dull paul, was always asking me a million questions about everything and never let me alone for a moment. so on the 5th of december, newly free and happy, i went to see belle and sebastian. it was wonderful. i danced and had a few cocktails and i was having so much fun and then out of the corner of my eye i saw him, dull paul chatting up some indie girl. grrrr.... i went undercover, and moved towards him at the bar keeping out of site which was easy because im small and it was dark. and i listened to him tell this poor, unsuspecting girl what a fan he was of B&S. surley i had heard wrong!! but no, as i stood there groaning whilst 'the state i am in' hummned in the background, he proceded to tell her his favorite B&S song, (judy and the dream of horses, he said. thats my favorite!! bastard...) how he was so into the new album and on and on. and then i laughed. loud and drunk and happy. i laughed at him. at the absurdity of the situation. was he trying to make me jelous by trying to pull at the show?? who knows. but when i laughed he saw me and turned bright pink. i smiled and gave a little wave, and skipped off with my cocktail just as the opening of 'slow graffiti' began, leaving him feeling like quite the fool. does life get any better than this??? without regard for anything, young*swan _________________________________________________________________ Gift-shop online from the comfort of home at MSN Shopping! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Tue Dec 2 17:16:01 2003 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:16:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: don't let them bite you they've got rabies Message-ID: i just broke up with a no good girlfriend who is obsessed with B&S and all things twee, and nothing else (i mean, twee is good and all but you're missing out on great things like THE DARKNESS) and was having a great time as a single boi. i had forgotten how nice it was to have loads of free time with out asking questions of divulging motives. she, the ex we shall call Silent Paula, never tells me anything when i call her and it was almost like not having a girlfriend at all. so on the 5th december, newly free and happy, i went to see belle and sebastian. it was wonderful, i can appreciate stevie's RAWK RIFFS now that there's no one to stop me playing air guitar when loneliness of the middle distance runner is on, as apparently I "ruin her style" while she bunny hops to the beats. So anyway I got a bit tired from all the moshing and so i retired to the bar, at which stood a pretty foxy ginger indie girl, incidentally also called Paula, let's call her Ginger Paula for now. She was telling me about how she once had a pretttty good holiday in Australia, "mmm all the hunks there" she told me. "Bet there are lots of studs in Oz!" I told her, "speaking of which my favourite tune must be Judy and the Dream of Horses" I told her. I'd have loved it more if it was better produced and all but you know the lo-fi stuff had its moments too! So that was when Silent Paula appeared and she was staring at me like a jab to the kidneys. I shuddered. It was scary! It gave me a rush of the blood to the head - like the Coldplay album, yeah THAT scary! Luckily she went away afterwards with a smile on her face, not that she would have talked to me anyway! She never does. At least she can smile now. All relieved I carried on chatting up Ginger Foxy Paula, just as slow graffiti begins, and later that night Ginger Paula sure loved my slow graffiti. does life get any better than this??? Ken (p.s. please do not take this post seriously please - i never pull) ********************************************************************** This email is confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If this email was not intended for you please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator at uclh.org. This footnote confirms that the email and attachments contained no viruses when they left UCLH. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Dec 2 23:29:11 2003 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:29:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: wherever you go... Message-ID: <20031202232911.64361.qmail@web41107.mail.yahoo.com> Bapps story about telling some guy that Belle and Sebastian are his favourite band sort of reminded me of a similar scenario a few months ago. I was on a training course to learn Good Words, and the trainer decided to have an ice breaker session by asking us our names and our desert island disc. Sure enough, he went round the group, who were naming Beatles albums and John Lennon albums, and all those classic albums that seem to appear on regular classic shows on VH1, or in the sales in HMV. Then he got to me. It was Tigermilk, by Belle and Sebastian. "Aren't they quite old?" he asked, "From the 70's?". "Er, not really" "Ah right" he said, trying to reassert some credibility of knowing what I was talking about. "But they're quite heavy, aren't they?" he said. It struck me as a fairly odd thing to say about a band called Belle and Sebastian. I mean, sure, if they were called something like "The Murdersome Pagans", or "Suicidal Warriors" or something, then yeah, it'd be a reasonable assumption, I guess, if you're going on a name. But Belle? thats a girlie name. And Sebastian? Have you ever known any hard nut called Sebastian? They're named after a book, which was turned into a cartoon for christs sakes. Anyway, it made me giggle, and sort of wish he'd just move on and ask someone else their name and favourite album. Sort of reminds me of a posh bloke I once knew, who got nicknamed Alan, as in Alan Partridge, on account of his voice and dress sense. He kept calling Eminem "Eminie", which was vaguely amusing for a while. Sometimes I find it best not to mention B&S to anyone who comes across as being a bit straight laced. Sometimes its best just to shut up and discuss Wife Swap instead, or babies and marriage. Having said that, I'm not very good at the indie conversations either. I can't remember album titles or record tracks, let alone obscure indie pop trivia. Actually, I think the only thing I'm reasonably good at discussing is myself. Stuart "Big Stu" Gardiner said something about scoring points for things you see in the new DVD. That would possibly make an interesting drinking game. It might also end up in alcoholism, a hang over from hell, loss of friends from embarrassing acts, and serious liver damage, but hey, you can't have it all. love idles ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daisygreenlight at xxx.com Wed Dec 3 00:24:06 2003 From: daisygreenlight at xxx.com (miss lou) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:24:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: there's something wrong with me Message-ID: <20031203002406.57227.qmail@web60202.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinister. i say yay to bapps and idles for the little tales. and i agree with idels re: indie discussions. i always think i know something about music until i get involved in one of said conversations, and then i realize i actually know more about wham! than, say, the evolution of punk rock or something. and it's always a particular nuisance with boys. sorry guys. but it's true. anyway, i'm mad at all you boys today as it is. *** sometimes i wonder if you start to dress a certain way and start to listen to certain music and start to hang out at certain places you don't actually build around yourself a certain sort of chosen, well. cage, perhaps. confinement. i never really used to worry about this. when it started, i just thought chuck taylors were really cool because they came in so many colors and the boys who wore them had rather nice hairdos. now, three long years later and with a lot of cds and thrift store connections, i wonder if it really is all something false after all. recently i said i felt fake a lot of the time, and i know it's true. not because i am trying to be something i'm not. at least not really, i don't think. i think it's because i hang out with a whole slew of people who try to be something they aren't. or, worse, they don't try to be anything. when i called my mum tonight, i found myself shouting into the receiver, asking her the dreaded rhetorical question, 'what's wrong with the youth of america?' and yeah, as with all things, it was in reference to boys. who, these days, seem to be divided neatly into two categories (at least in nebraska): 1. non-indies who have clean hair, nice shoes and goals goals goals. these boys do not want to go out with me. they like girl(space)friends. 2. indies who have hair last washed approx. 3 months ago, no g.e.d., no job, no car, no phone, no goals and just enough money for a bit of smack. these boys love me AND their bands. (there is a third, unmentionable place for people who go crazy, such as that boy i went to see in california, who recently broke into my email, deleted everything he'd ever sent me, and then sent me another email to tell me about it and ask for "marks for resourcefulness.") honestly, i may turn into dull paul and fake a little more, fake a little teeny interest in dave matthews band and steve maddens and maybe i can make the grade. hmm. scary. maybe not. *** in other news, seeing as i am no longer an official newspaperwoman and, actually, felt a little lost as a result, i am starting my own little paper. nothing too big or fancy considering i have almost no money, but something nice enough with music and art stories, as well as a featured interview and a poetry and fiction section in the back. we'll see how i do. secretly, i think i may only be doing it just to know my name will appear next to the title 'editor-in-chief' in a publication other than my illustrious high school newspaper, the burke beat. am i narcissistic? is that how the word is spelled? xo.lou. ===== www.somewhereinbetween.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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And the music geek subcategories: lo-fi geeks, 60's pop geeks, post-rock-we-hate-blur-because-mogwai-say-so geeks, the northern soul geeks, etc... But where are the proper geeks? The nerds i grew up with and loved oh-so dearly? The hermetic masters of the world? I've met one proper one that will admit to it out here. I won't name names, but he holds impressive credentials. And yes, there is the occasional Dr. Who fanatic (kingofpartick). In fact, Dr. Who seems to be the only main geek thing celebrated out here. I walk down the road every day and chuckle when I see the large inflatable dalek in the window of someone's flat. But surely we can do better than that, as I am american and have little or no previous knowledge of the phenomenon. (other than the fact that 100 tacos is adequate sustinence for a Dr. Who marathon) I think there are more out there than they want to admit. Hiding away somewhere, fearful of the indie hipsters and their belle and sebastian quoting and smiths-soaked tears. We must rise, brothers. Raise up an army, put on your Mandalorian armour, siege the country, and we will all shout KABLAH in unison, crying to the heavens with joy. Or not. I suppose I should just face the facts. The hipsters out here just don't have time for it. It's as though I left Caladan for Arrakis with a fleet of battleships and batallions armed only with lasguns. Out here, indie knowledge is the desert power. At least I'll always have the Century of Fakers video. watch it and you'll see what I mean. I'm off to London on Thursday to catch some Belle gigs and maybe Chickfactor. Maybe I'll see you out there. Before then, I have to write this paper, so I suppose I should stop procrastinating and get on with it. -Matt P.S. If you caught the subject line's reference, give yourself a point. Two if you thought about that quote when you saw Matrix Revolutions. Three if you thought of that at Matrix Revolutions, along with Dune Messiah. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of slow downloads and busy signals? Get a high-speed Internet connection! Comparison-shop your local high-speed providers here. https://broadband.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com Wed Dec 3 10:24:51 2003 From: a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com (a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 02:24:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Kings of Leon, oh deary me. Message-ID: <20031203102454.5914.h026.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> Hi y'all (I am smiling to myself because y'all always looks so weird when you write it, er) This was one fucking WEIRD weekend! On Saturday, Kings of Leon were in town, and myself and the ever so lovely Amanda wanted to just hang outside the venue a bit to see if we could meet them, since the gig was a this club. And, so, we, er, stood there for way too long and when we had stood there for... well, more than three hours and had only met Jared so far, we were about to give up, almost, when the road manager Ryan came out and said. "Hey, write down your names on a piece of paper for me, and I'll put you up on the guestlist." Ok. So, what if it doesn't work, they'll probably ask for ID, or so we thought, so we went home to my place, speed-ate dinner, panicked and shrieked along to "Youth and Young Manhood" and were dressing up and putting on make-up. We didn't expect anything, but we went there and I was so damn nervous I was trembling, but I went past the line, and this was what happened: Me: Hello Guard: Hiya Me: We're on the guestlist... Guard: Wow, is there one? Me: Um, yes. Guard: Ok, get in then. Then the even weirder thing happened inside with the people standing there. Me: hello, we're on Kings of Leon's guestlist, Astrid and Amanda? Person in charge: Here you go, oh, wait! This too! [gives us two stickers which says After Show 29/11 and I stare at it] Me: So, is this like an official after party or something? Person in charge: Not really, but you can go to their dressing room after the show and hang out with them. Me: Um, ok, yes, I'll settle for that, hehe [Blank face from person in charge] Me: Er... [heads off for wardrobe] The gig was ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, with me and Amanda all up at the front, dancing like mad, together with Charlote & Charlotte, two super nice British girls who were the NME winners of the Kings of Leon Stockholm competition, so we hung out too all night. After the show, we got in to their dressing room and we had some beer and talked to the fucking kings of leon, yay!, and they were nice but they've OBVIOUSLY been styled a bit, but damn they were nice and funny anyways! Also, we got to talk to the lovely Regina Spektor, who was support. She was really cool and she has a lovely voice. She looked a bit twee actually. They wanted to go to this other club so we packed ourselves into a cab and went to this club, and, er, well we stood in the line with them and Jared "Had to pee so badly" he almost couldn't breathe. They got in, but me and Amanda and Charlotte and Charlotte who were a bit tipsy by then had to make arses of ourselves and try to sneak in on this side entrance but the guard from hell noticed us and it was all a lot of shindigs and shenanigans. But then us girls walked back to the bus, left a little note and said goodbye. It was such a surreal night but a nice one none the less. None of my friends like them, or even know how special that was to me, so they we're like "Er, that's great", hence me writing here, hoping someone will be as enthusiastic as me. In other news... Miss Lou's latest post was really really great and it was stuff I've thought about as well, but couldn't put into words as well as Miss Lou. So lots of cred to that post, and Miss Lou too, of course. And I'm planning for my two sinister pressies and I'm all ready to start making them and send 'em out. I will reveal nothing of what it is, except for the fact that I'm sending one to the states and one to Great Britain. So. Yes. I'm really looking forward to Christmas, even though I always start arguing with my eldest sister around lunch time and feel like the black sheep of the family even though I'm not, I'm just a slackerette, and sulk in my room and listen to sad music and write something depressive about the commercialism of christmas and the general evilness of family gatherings in my diary, to then have a lovely christmas eve and at midnight write again in my diary, but this time, "Oh, ok, so I am a materialist beyond words, but, I've gotten SO MUCH LOVELT THINGS! I LOVE CHRISTMAS!". So, it's a bit schizophrenic, really. But only for me. All the me's. Joke there. But it wasn't really funny. Hmmm. Soon, I'm to have a history class with my extremely enervating teacher who is a nice guy and talks about life and the world and all that but never really teaches us things. And we have him for Religion too. Urgh. And then, LUNCH. LUNCH. LUNCH. HURR-AH! I'm reallyreallyreally hungry... mmm... veggie dish of the day... it was something tasty... mmm... pasta with something... ahhhh... [Homer-esque sound of imagining different things to go with pasta] Yeeeees. I know I'll see Love Actually soon enough, I know it's going to be predictable and I know I'm going to go home and cry afterwards and think about how love never works and that when I grow up and go to university in England, it HAS to work for me or else life is evil, because that's how I work. But it's got Colin Firth, I like him. And Shoe Grant, as my friend calls him because she thinks he personalizes the word Shoe. Sort of true. It might be the hair. Anyways, I've rambled enough, go read something interesting from someone else instead, Pre-Christmas love Astrid x --------------------------------------------------- Who would you rather be - Ted Danson or Kevin Costner? Fab: Who the fuck is Ted Dancer? Ted Danson. Fab: Oh, Danson. Nick: I think Ted Danson wears a toupee. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Hewitt at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 10:31:56 2003 From: S.Hewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:31:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: WHO IN THIS BEEYOTCH IS GOING TO SEE THE BAND ON THURSDAY? Message-ID: ello babies So, anyway, I'm going on Thursday to the Astoria, having failed to engage my ass into the appropriate gear to get a Friday ticket (when all the cool kids are going and will be doing karaoke apparently, don't turn up late and miss david moore doing his rendition of band of gold!), I seem to be attending tomorrow evening instead, but is anyone else, or is it going to be like going round to the band's house (they do all still live in one house, don't they?) and being made to make cups of tea for them all and then having to do the washing up? Anyway, if you are, let me know, or alternatively, I'll probably just ensconce myself in the angel in st giles (http://www.fancyapint.com/thepubs/pub502.htm) from about 5, so come and find me innit. If short is the new long, then I don't wanna be short, so now for a lot of out of date waffle. La hodottir said (a month ago) LOOK BARRY LASAGNE ON THE TELLY, blah blah AFC blah blah If only it'd been our Stu joining the team, the whole thing would have been wonderfully complete. Of course, the only problem with this is mentioning Stuart Murdoch to AFC Wimblebum fans makes them think of only one man, the manager of franchise FC, who is also called stuart murdoch, small world and all that... Llllllllleweth organised the xmas present exchange, well done her, I've been having a little difficulty getting the very wriggly boy to sit still long enough to get the chocolate to set though, oh well there's always the ether... I missed stevie and richard on the telly because I don't watch telly in the morning, and if I did I wouldn't watch ri:se (haha, "su:nk" more like, doyouseewhatididthere?) I see CHU is claiming to be some sort of "rocker". Ha! Bet he didn't see the darkness a year and a half ago when they had NOWT like what I did. Well I say "see". Actually I was stood in the bar bit of the bull and gate going "what the EFF is going on in the back room, it sounds very silly", but hey, it's something to tell the grandkids innit... Also I bet he isn't going to see THIS IS SPINAL TAP on the big screen at the NFT after wobs like what I am. Also is richard linklater a b&s fan? Why else call your film "school of rock", rather than "rock school"?? Also also when I went to see the darkness last month, about half way through I turned to mrs carsmile and said "isn't it odd that my two favourite bands both want to be thin lizzy!" Also also also I have changed my mind about DCW (song). In fact, it sounds like deram era dame david bowie rather than MLS (sorry about that by the way asm). DCW (the album) is certainly growing on me (growing on yoooooooooouuuuuuuuuu), although it perhaps tails off a bit after LA. THINGS I HAVEN'T NOTICED OTHER PEOPLE MENTIONING ABOUT DCW (although they might of) 1. how many songs sound like other belle and sebastian songs, eg. Wrapped up in books = string bean jean, piazza, new york catcher = belle and sebastian, slow bit near the end of stay loose = chalet lines. 2. how much struan sounds like nico on the bit in DCW (the song), where he rhymes town with clown, just as she did on femme fatale 3. how much the guitar on wrapped up in books sounds like paperback writer (doyouseewhattheydidthere?) 4. how nice it is when stevie turns up on WUIB, "yay, it's stevie!" I thought to myself (I was on the bus, listening through headphones, so it seemed out of place to shout it) 5. how the brass bits on I'm a cuckoo really fill it out compared to the live versions we heard last year 6. how there are two good "substitute the proper words for rude words" bits (cf "swing my cock around", "the centre of my so-called penis" etc) in stay loose, but I can't remember them at the moment and I don't think my office want to listen to it. Oh, hold on the lyrics are on the website, silly me. Try replacing the word bed with head and past with arse the next time you're singing along, eh kids. 7. how fucking trite the last verse of if you find yourself caught in love is. I'm saying stuart can write a real proper anti-war protest song that would be aces, so why does he try and stick in what we used to call in the 80s "a bit of politics" into the end of this featherweight godbothering nonsense????? It just makes him sound like travis or summat... What has amused me recently is if you put the phrase belle and sebastian songs into google and click "I'm feeling lucky" you get here: http://www.geocities.com/carsmilesteve/allmusicisintrinsicallylinked.htm Hurray for me! Also, I need to update this page with all the new album soundalikeys, so if ppl can mail me with any good ones, that'd be sooooper. Right, that's my load shot for another two months (Reporting Back not included). xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From staralful at xxx.com Thu Dec 4 00:41:51 2003 From: staralful at xxx.com (staralful -) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 00:41:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: "there's no need to swear"-"there's every need to swear" Message-ID: fantastic gig!!!!!am i the first to report back it was great and they were all on top form although mr stevie evidently has broken up with someone special which was a shame. stuart had silver pants on and a girl made an arse of herself singing lazy line painter jane ****the set list**** surfy thing expectations step into my office baby wrapped up in books womans realm lonliness of the middle distance runner wrong girl slow graffiti travelling light dear catastrophe waitress you don't send me stars of track and field dirty dream no 2 piazza new york catcher asleep on a sunbeam i'm a cuckoo she's losing it you're just a baby roy walker stay loose sleep the clock around **************** lazy line painter jane judy and the dream of horses ********************* it was quite a long set must have been on for over 2 hours. it was worth the journeying accross seas to see the gig. a few things about this side of the irish sea confuse me how can a shop give you a five pound note , then it isn't acceptable in another shop? very odd and very piss offable. other than that london is great and we have found a groovy 24/7 restaurant to go to. sorry about briefness but i must get out and see the house of commons at night ta ta jonathan "Are you calling Mr Simpson a liar?"-----" Not exactly -but we do have this fottage of him with his pants on fire" _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From foreversheepish at xxx.uk Thu Dec 4 01:15:10 2003 From: foreversheepish at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Chris=20Eames?=) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:15:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: less than 24 hours to goooo..... Message-ID: <20031204011510.49074.qmail@web25109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> So I’m off to see the band (finally) on tomorrow!!! I can't wait. Glad to hear tonight was good, if tomorrow is anywhere near as long i will be very very happy indeed! On another note, is anyone going to see Isobel on Monday in London? I've had tickets for ages but my friend decided not to come so if anyone is in need of a ticket and fancies keeping a lonely boy company send me an e-mail....... So of the new album: When I went to buy it, I was helping a friend carry furniture home from Argos in Hammersmith... Not knowing Hammersmith too well (even though I live just down the road) I managed to find possible the smallest Virgin Megastore known to humanity. It really didn't seem all that mega to me. Well I didn’t really want to give money to the big record chain people but I really wanted the new album, and when I walked into the shop to find Lazy Line Painter Jane playing I decided it was fate. But no, not only did they not have a single copy of Dear Catastrophe waitress, they only had one lonely belle and seb album at all! Luckily I managed to get a copy later that day in a different shop, which incidentally was playing Lord Anthony, so I wasn't too disappointed. It seems strangest the only times I have ever heard belle and seb being played in a shop, was on my new album buying day. I may be a bit late for the flurry of reviews but I must say I do love it. It hasn't quite overtaken tbwtas yet but Piazza and I’m a cuckoo are nearly always in my head. I got my hand on a copy of ‘Fans only’ as well, and its one of those things you just can’t stop putting on and watching all the way through whenever you feel like listening to a belle and seb track. I doubt anyone at uni would accept that as a reason for handing in my lab report late .. Anyway, I really should go do some work, Chris PS - Matt, the Dune references were certainly not lost on me . ________________________________________________________________________ Download Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.brading at xxx.uk Thu Dec 4 01:21:30 2003 From: m.brading at xxx.uk (Mark Brading) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:21:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: London day 1 Message-ID: <000501c3ba04$f2de3430$0200a8c0@ic.ac.uk> So - here I am. My first post. Hello everyone. For years (literally years - I've been here since 1999, on and off) I've been wondering what my first post should be. There have been so many fantastic ones, it seems imposable to do the list justice. I'd always thought that some reporting back would make a good first post, but I never managed to get a setlist for any gigs I went to, so I thought I'd wait until I got one & report back properly. But this evening I got one - for the first time. Trouble is, I lost it again almost immediately in circumstances bubbling with surprise and sexual intrigue. I'll tell you about them in a minute (a cliffhanger you see - that should keep you reading). But nonetheless, a setlist I had, albeit only for a few seconds, so here I am reporting back, just like I promised myself I would. (Breaking promises you make to yourself is the first step towards disaster and rack and ruin, or so my mother used to tell me. Frankly, I have reason to doubt alot of what she used to say ("don't do that, you'll go blind!"), but it seems like good advice nonetheless). I arrived around half six, and (after picking up a couple tins of refreshing beer from the bar) positioned myself quite near the front. To get to the very front you probably have to start queuing at about 4pm, and also not get any beer. I'm happy with the trade-off. People bustled in around me - including a very pretty girl with pigtails who completely ignored me when I said hello to her, so I completely ignored her back from the rest of the gig. Bet that showed her... Scatter came on after a bit and were... superb, I thought... Unexpected anyway; playing spoken word pieces which I didn't like at first but which really grew on me by the end of the set. Certainly one of the better support acts I've seen. The guy standing behind me liked Scatter too. He turned out to be Jonathan Skinner - which was cool. I felt like I'd met someone famous. It was nice to meet you... Thanks for holding my stuff while I went to the toilet - I would never have fought my way back to the middle if you hadn't... There was about a 45 minute wait before B&S came on, which seems pretty normal these days, but when they arrived it was well worth the wait. I can't tell you the setlist, cos I lost it in a steamy close encounter (keep reading), but I can tell you that they definitely played: Expectations SIMOB Sleep the Clock Around Slow Graffiti Wrapped up in Books You don't send me Stars of track and field Woman's realm Stay loose I'm a cuckoo Asleep on a sunbeam Stay loose Dear Catastrophe waitress You're just a baby But not in that order, and loads more too. Stuart seemed in a really good mood - in fact the whole band looked like they were having a really good time, bantering with the crowd. Stuart told us how he liked to pee in the open air, and Stevie said he'd once peed on the white-house lawn. All the talk of peeing made me feel sorry for Jonathan Skinner's mate, who'd wanted to go for a pee ever since Scatter went off. Should have gone during the break, mate... The crowd didn't dance much, but got really well into it, and dragged the band back for two amazing encores. People had been shouting for LLPJ all night, prompting Stuart to ask if there were any girls who wanted to sing it. A girl finally went up and did not a bad job, once she actually stared singing instead of making funny faces. It was very brave and she was very cool - Stuart gave her a medal for it. They finally finished with Judy - probably my all time favourite... so I danced a clapped and bounced and had an amazing time. Fantastic. I always wonder, at B&S gigs, why nobody ever reports back how beautiful Sarah looks. I think Sarah's lovely - I always much preferred her to Isobel, and she seems to be a fun person too. I hope she is. I think she's the member of the band I'd most like to meet, given the chance. As everyone left, I pushed to the front to see if I could get a setlist. He had loads to give out, and he pushed one straight into my hand. I stood there admiring it for a few minutes, waiting for people to leave, and after a bit a very cute girl with freckles came up to me. (This is the bit you have been waiting for, if you're still awake). "Wow, you got a setlist", she said, "can I have it?" She smiled at me so prettily I was about to say yes, but I glanced down at the list for a few seconds to see if I could memorise it. "Oh please", she said, "I'll give you a snog for it", and before I could say any more she snogged me, right at the front of the Astoria (if my girlfriend reads this, she jumped on me, and there was nothing I could do, honest injun). I was so surprised just handed her the list, and with a little smile and a final peck on the cheek, she skipped off with her prize. So, whatever your name was, you could have had it anyway, but it's given me a good story to tell. And there we are, the longest dullest ever reporting back; the longest dullest ever first post. But it's late, so hopefully I might have helped you to sleep. I love reading sinister, do keep posting. Maybe one day I'll meet some more of you in real life... mark +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Thu Dec 4 09:36:09 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 09:36:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I sent this already but it got lost. you might get it twice please don't hate me Message-ID: Lou said: << i always think i know something about music until i get involved in one of said conversations, and then i realize i actually know more about wham! than, say, the evolution of punk rock or something. and it's always a particular nuisance with boys. sorry guys. but it's true. anyway, i'm mad at all you boys today as it is. >> I've never made someone's knowledge of music a top priority, especially as I don't really know much about it myself. I've always thought it was more of a Sinister thing to fall in love with mousey-haired librarians or shiny-buttoned bus conductors, anyway. Your ideal man is more likely to have 45's of British Birdsong in his record collection than rock music. In any case, my key to successful dating has always been to go up to the girl in the laundrette with the determined chin and to tell her that I'm in the Secret Service, on a top secret mission, and she has to accompany me to the Co-Op for a cheese sandwich as a matter of National Security. Usually this results in the girl saying "lumee", or possibly "lord love a duck", and romance soon blossoms. It never fails. Carsmile atoned for his sins: << Also also also I have changed my mind about DCW (song). In fact, it sounds like deram era dame david bowie rather than MLS (sorry about that by the way asm). >> Then said (in his spot-on list of 7): <<2. how much struan sounds like nico on the bit in DCW (the song), where he rhymes town with clown, just as she did on femme fatale >> I'm convinced that the wondrous and obscure Desperation Made a Fool of Me sounds like a Velvet Underground song, but I can't for the life of me work out which one. So there's one for allmusicisintrinsicallylinked, if anyone knows. Steve, no one is going on Thursday, not even Belle and Sebastian. They're going to substitute themselves with robots, who have been carefully programmed in how to lisp and play their guitars like pansies, but will no doubt break their programming, as robots always do, and start playing bad Kraftwerk covers instead. Make sure you wear your robotproof hat. I'm currently having a deep personal crisis over whether to sing Yes Sir, I Can Boogie for karaoke on Friday. Part of me really really wants to do it, but another part of me knows that it will probably be the worst mistake of my life. I have been practicing in front of the bathroom mirror with a toothbrush, just in case. I suppose it depends on how drunk I am. So, if you want some top-class entertainment, you're quite welcome to buy me drinks. robin x _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Thu Dec 4 10:52:10 2003 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:52:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: this saturday In-Reply-To: <20031121201932.3217.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Sinister, Well, the time's come. Off to see The Group play tonight and tomorrow night. It'll be strange. I haven't seen them for such a long time - Glasto last year? am I forgetting one? - that I know I'll need Friday as well. It's hard to explain, but I'm starting to remember what a B&S gig is like. Thinking 'oh, you know, I'm going to see a band that might play Lazy Line Painter Jane. I'd like that.' It's a funny business. I guess I'm trying to say I'm looking forward to it. We've decided to do another HDIF in Brixton, as the last one was so much fun. If you're travelling to London for B&S on Friday, please make a weekend of it with us the night after. How Does It Feel To Be Loved? Saturday Dec 6th Canterbury Arms 8 Canterbury Crescent, Brixton, London 9pm-2am, £3 Playlist: The Smiths * The Supremes * The Go-Betweens * Dusty Springfield * Belle & Sebastian * Tammi Terrell * Aztec Camera * The Ronettes * Orange Juice * Beach Boys * The Temptations * Velvet Underground * Felt * The Shangri-Las * Primal Scream * Otis Redding * The Field Mice * The Stone Roses * Dexys Midnight Runners * The Four Tops * Dolly Parton * The Orchids Guest DJ Fruitbat (Abdoujaparov/Carter USM) will be playing a one-off melodic punk set. From 10.30-12.00, we'll be relaxing the usual "no punk" rule at HDIF for a set of songs that inspired Morrissey and many other indie heroes. Expect the likes of Buzzcocks, New York Dolls, Undertones, Wire, Ramones, Magazine, etc, etc. Then it'll be back to normal service again at midnight. http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Thu Dec 4 11:06:09 2003 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (Stefano [Steady-State]) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:06:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: reporing back pt1. Message-ID: My Dear Sinister Last night concert has been absolutely great! Something more to add... I´m still quite astonished... it was absolutely my favourite belle and Sebastian gig. I haven´t seen that many but they absolutely rocked the stage, looked compact and sounded loud... We finally have an explanation about Struan silver (?plastic?) trousers, they are wee-proof, according to Chris, who was wearing the BEST JUMPER ever... I want one as well.. looked like one my granddad pyjama, but was terrific! And, for once, showing athletic fielding, I took my wicket, and had a set list: Here we go: Passion Fruit Expectations Step Into My Office Baby Wrapped up in books Women´s Realm (The loneliness of the) Middle Distance Runner The wrong Girl Slow Graffiti Travelling Light (maybe?) Dear Catastrophe Waitress You don´t send me Star of track & field Dirty Dream #2 NY Pizza catcher Asleep on a sunbeam I am a cuckoo She´s losing it You are just a baby Roy walker Stay loose Sleep the clock around Encore: Lazy line painter jane Judy and the dreams of horses I heard that they have played an almost completely different set list in Sheffield the night before... so more surprise to come for people going to more then one gig... can´t wait really, after last night... And a reminder, Mr Carsmile Steve has suggested to meet up at the Angel, in st. Giles... seems pretty sensible to me!...aye... definitely need a pint! Take care stefano #~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~# When you sleep do you see an angel in dying light Or can you see someone standing outside trying to set you alight Or maybe you've seen someone somewhere before that I might have loved if i'd never loved you but you only see me in bad dreams +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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Ask them each to pick a different freeform jazz song that they don't know very well, and to play it from memory. The result may sound a little cacophonous, so we'll need something to hold it all together. Do you remember that ugly kid with the really awful curly hair? Y'know, the one who used to write all that embarrassing poetry when he was 13? He can be the front-man. If he can't sing, just get him to read out his toe-curling poems in an appalling mancunian monotone. Then tell them that they are a brilliant fusion of seventies art-rock, tindersticks, pulp, calexico and the patty smith group - and they'll believe it too, the pretentious cunts. Anywhere but a Belle and Sebastian gig, "Scatter" would have been bottled off. B&S on the other hand were ace. ESd'O3 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stugardiner at xxx.com Thu Dec 4 13:03:52 2003 From: stugardiner at xxx.com (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:03:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm a chaffinch Message-ID: OK, last night was crap. Not the band, obviously. B&S were the most professional I've seen them (and it's something like my tweflth time now). Slick as you like. Whether this is a good thing or not depends of course on whether you used to think they were amateur or spontaneous, but hey. Great playing, great light show, audible for a change, and Stuart only forgot the words twice all night. I have to say though, Stevie And Stuart's acting before they played their cover of "I could be so good for you" was terrible... Not the support band, either. Well actually, I thought they were a load of pretentious rubbish, but never mind, each to their own. No, what was crap last night was the audience. I know London gigs never get as lively or as much atmosphere as gigs anywhere else. But it was a great gig, great setlist, and hardly anybody was dancing! Seriously, when they played I'm A Cuckoo, or Expectations, or pretty much any of the songs really, you could count on one hand the number of people who were moving. Hardly anyone even seemed to join in with the handclaps on Women's Realm. So come on, Londoners, you can do better than that. DANCE YOU FCKERS!!! I think tonight I'm going to have to go nearer the front to show them how it's done... Right, see you in the pub beforehand for the motivational teamtalk... Big Stu _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Thu Dec 4 13:28:45 2003 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:28:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: it could have been a brilliant west pier Message-ID: <16514837.1070544525@slir2301.central.susx.ac.uk> Y'all should clearly have got tickets for the Brighton gig, where admittedly most people are far too cool to like Belle & Sebastian but those who do will DEFINITELY be dancin' on Monday. I feel a bit left out, possibly like a small derelict pier on the edge of the south coast, actually. So if anyone IS coming to the Brighton show on Monday, give me a shout! God knows December has little else to recommend it. Especially since I'll be spending Christmas in Aylesbury. Ooh but there's the Christmas present exchange of course. And Sinister International Bowling Day, at which I may even be able to reprazent in London. Of course, I will have done so much comfort eating by then that I may actually be able to use my own stomach as a bowling ball :( Right, back to sticking address labels on corporate Christmas cards... Archel xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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A lot�s happened since my last post, but I�ve ended up back in Sheffield now (just in time for the gig) trying to while away a year before starting uni in October. So I thought I�d report back. I�m afraid I don�t have a set list for you, so sorry about that. It was my first B&S gig, so I was obviously highly excited (in a dancing round the room singing Lazy Line Painter Jane kinda way). B&S didn�t disappoint either. I half feared that they might concentrate on their new songs (not that I dislike them, but their older stuff just conjures up so many more emotions), but they came through with songs like Photo Jenny (a favourite of mine), Expectations, Judy And The Dream of Horses, Dog On Wheels, I�m Waking Up To Us and many others which will no doubt come to me after I�ve posted this. It was a pity that Lord Anthony wasn�t among the new stuff that they played, because that really strikes a chord with me. It was also frustrating that I couldn�t dance because I could only book seats in the balcony area by the time I realised that I�d be back in Sheffield for the gig. Ah well, got to make a fool of myself by jigging around on my seat a bit and was able to watch Stevie dancing on stage. Awe. He�s so sweet when he dances. A big thanks to Offbeat for a great after gig party. Stuart and Stevie actually turned up and one of the girls I was with got to dance with Stuart! And the DJs played Eighties Fan and The Day That Thatcher Dies � a couple of my favourite non B&S songs. Yay. The Sinister folk I went with were very welcoming, which means a lot to me, so thanks. Anyway, I�d better go now and stop boring you with my ramblings. I�m off to the Edinburgh gig as well, so I might see some of you there. We really have to do something after the show� Bye, Heather _________________________________________________________________ On the move? 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However last night's B+S show was an exception I think - I mean, sure, at the start of every song I had all these witty comments about the various members commitment and singing abilities. However normally by the end of each song I'd be grinning like a loon. Big Stu talked about the lack of dancing. Well, there was just NO ROOM TO MOVE. I was my first time inside the Astoria actually and my God the place was packeder than ROCK CITY in Nottingham, and nobody dances there, they just mosh. I tried to initiate a pit where I was standing but I was too far to the side to start anything apart from maybe CROWD SURF - but then I chickened out when I noticed the unguarded 10 feet drop into the ladies loo (what a way to die though). Being near the ladies loo is just awful too, because all these people just keep rushing past you going to and from the toilet and probably not washing their hands and they come back out squeezing past you with their wee ridden fingers. There was this one girl with really big boobs and she keeps walking past and squeezing her bosom into me. "Keep your boobs to yourself woman" I wanted to shout, but I was too polite. The sound was fantastic, there was a good sound man for a change, and it was great - Sturan at certain occasions sounded a little tired maybe, or just couldn't be arsed, but still it was very nice. And nobody has yet mentioned the RAWKING OUT - hello Loneliness of the middle blah blah, Stay Loose and a RAWK version of You're Just A Baby!!! If I have a mutation in my gene each time I hear a guitar solo I'd have been toxic to every species of slugs by the end of the gig! Such is (re:carsmile) why seeing gigs before the bands are famous is RUBBIDGE! Wait til they learn how to play properly and have enough money to waste on collecting autumn leaves to fall all over your head during a gig! And FOXY VIOLIN(?) PLAYERS - standing mostly at the back of the stage during the B&S gig - Did Sturan recruit them based on FOXINESS who knows but woah! Makes my heart feel young again. Yeah right, before the band was on I was talking about INTEREST RATES and MORTGAGES with my flatmate. Good heavens. Ken P.S.: I didn't see the support band at all, in fact at the time they were on I was playing DDR at the Trocadero, whilst on the phone to my flatmate who was shouting "WHERE ARE YOU?", oops. Their website made me dizzy. ********************************************************************** This email is confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If this email was not intended for you please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator at uclh.org. 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And I used to love all of them. I think I like the idea of going around for shops and buying gifts. Indeed I like making gift more then receiving ones. Not that I dislike it, but still the idea of bring someone´s a present appears more appealing at my eyes. And making gift is kind of a subtle art. I am not so sure I´ve learnt the skills. Might be just a few tricks. But, I´m confident, I´ll get better. There´s nothing better then a gift coming unexpectedly, though. And as I´ve thought for long while, joining this list is one of the best, if not the best, thing I´ve done in my live, I had a very special one. And that was bliss. [Lundun Gigs] I can´t believe it is already December, and I can´t believe I´m going to see Belle and Sebastian. I´ve waited quite a bit for this day to come. I must admit, I don´t like the catastrophy waiter. Well might be is not even true that I don´t like it at all, is just from B&S I would have aspect something more... something different... simple to say... was I looking for a IYFS #2? Well, it might well be... still, they are the bands who wrote some of the song that have changed my life, in one way or another, and I´ll always love them. And yet, I was quite trilled by the idea of seeing them yesterdaty and then again these days. I am a lazy lucky git!... I imagine that a few people are going to the gigs on friday... we have missed a meet up yeaterday, whcih is a bit of a shame since are always good fun... and good drinks... suprisely there are no sugegstion for friday... so can i put one forward? .... Well I would suggest the DOG & DUCK... because is near to OLD COMPTON... so is slightly B&S related and is close enough.... How to find it? Frith Street runs from the centre of the south side of Soho Square down to Old Compton Street. The Dog and Duck is halfway down on the right. http://www.fancyapint.com/thepubs/pub120.htm [tigermilking] For the one who are interested, I´ve uploaded some photographs from the last night we had, which was also a celebration for Mr. Jim Purpletrousers 30th birthday. And I´m glad we have another night set up for the 13th December, which will be random mixture of Christmas, birthdays celebration again, and general random stuff... plus a good occasion to get merry and dance yourself off to alt.indie.pop.rock. whatever... http://www.undermybed.org/tigermilking I haven´t moaned all through the post. Almost unbelievable! Yours, take care Stefano PS: I DO LISTEN TO (??intellectual??) HEAVY METAL! #~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~# When you sleep do you see an angel in dying light Or can you see someone standing outside trying to set you alight Or maybe you've seen someone somewhere before that I might have loved if i'd never loved you but you only see me in bad dreams +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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'sleep the clock around' comes on. i turn it up. and it is sometime after midnight and a small but loud group of us start singing along and soon we are all dancing and it is like a scene from some coming of age movie where the mischeif is constant and the parties are legendary. fun stuff. but i wish i could have seen the show. while i nurse my hangover with plenty of water and chicken noodle soup all you boys and girls out there behave and have extra fun for me. kisses, me _________________________________________________________________ Our best dial-up offer is back. Get MSN Dial-up Internet Service for 6 months @ $9.95/month now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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Message-ID: <20031204202948.84895.qmail@web40604.mail.yahoo.com> have you heard the children's album by They Might Be Giants? it really is quite fantastik ever since i discovered it some months ago, it has become a favourite of both my colleagues and my own. isn't it funny how, seemingly, you go from not really having anything to do to being so busy you forget to do things such as eat and use the loo? this is what i have found lately. i was busy enough from 7-5 monday through friday, but after that i was pretty open as far as schedule went....then i started working at the shelter...then i started my weight training....then i got a second job....then i began irish dance lessons....then i got a flat....now i have to move and am having a dickens of a time finding the time to do so. ah well. poor me. speaking of irish dance.....it's so much fun. granted, i have only had one class thus far...but i really liked it. i have some poor scheduling though....i have weight training on monday, which i always work very hard in....then dance on tuesday....yesterday i could barely walk :o) the christmas season appears to be in full swing....much to my chagrin. i have never been overly enthusiastic about christmastime however this year i am looking upon it with absolute dread. my family is lecturing me about how i shouldn't be that way. i think they should shut up, personally. they have never much cared what i thought. at any rate, i'll try my best not to be a scrooge....and while i initially intended to not by gifts or send out cards, i have been making mental shopping lists in my head....sometimes i'm just all talk. would you have guessed as much? ya know what makes me happy? presents. my christopher, who is a member of our lil community, sent me a mix cd. it's lovely. i love getting and making mix tapes/cd's. it's always so much fun to hear things that friends have selected expressly for your listening enjoyment. it is also so much fun to choose your favourites and share them with others. kudos to the mix tape/ cd makers of the world. ah well. i s'pose that's all. happy groundhog day :o) love ~stine __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Message-ID: <70A07CA6-26D4-11D8-AA33-000A95746334@sbcglobal.net> dear Sinister. a few weeks ago one of my coeditors (funny that I have such things) and I revealed to each other quite by accident that we grew up less than a mile away from each other. which is unusual, in that she teaches at the high school I attended, a good many miles from there, and that she is now studying in the same, tiny program from which I am about to graduate. (well, almost the same program. I'm still an undergrad, blah blah.) anyway the coincidence was enough to get us both going on with stories about the settings we unwittingly shared through childhood. the eyeglasses shop indian, for instance (which, for all Chicagoans on board, is the best-kept secret of smut in the whole city. if you're unfamiliar with this glorious attraction, email me immediately for directions. it's worth the drive). she also mentioned the prairie. the prairie she referred to is not really a prairie at all. in fact, until she mentioned the place, I had assumed that my brother and I were the only creatures on earth that ever referred to it as such. it's actually a small field that surrounds the mess of train tracks beneath the bridge Pulaski makes just south of 71st street. we played ball in the prairie, sledded down the embankments (on proper sleds in the winter, and bits of refrigerator boxes the rest of the year), and looked for rats under the concrete slabs of the bridge. our mom would laugh at us when we called it the prairie, saying that when we were in school and we learned what a real prairie was, we'd laugh at ourselves too. instead, when I played Oregon Trail on the Apple IIG's in my suburban grade school, I was annoyed at more than just the lousy graphics -- there I was, out on the prairie, hunting for food for my family (while little Billie was dying of TB or cholera or snake venom or god knows what), and there were bunches of stiff-looking deer and bunnies frolicking about in a setting that was depressingly free of embankments and railroad tracks. what kind of prairie was this? who wanted to be a damned pioneer in the first place? not me. thankfully, I've been to the prairie for real, and I was definitely right. I mean, the vastness and the emptiness that my mom and my geography teachers described to me is there, and it's gorgeous. but it's crisscrossed with train tracks, now, too. and highways, and shabby little towns where people grow up and play with cardboard boxes, and all of that. the midwest, as it turns out, is growing into the prairie of my childhood. and Sue's too. anyway, this is all very poignant for me (no, not in a fisting sort of way, though the image is lovely), mainly because I'm preparing to move to the desert. not just this minute, or anything. I've got school to finish up. but plans are being made and money is being saved, and up until recently I have been quite excited. you see, I'm truly anxious to get away from this place. since I've last spoken to you, Sinister, many ugly things have happened. parents have died. plants have died. romances have gone horribly awry. Chicago has been a poor friend, in general. I'm lonely and tired and goddammit, I'm cold. but I will miss the prairie, which I have found little pieces of all across this city. ahem. enough of that. we haven't talked in awhile, have we? well. it's probably time to mention that I've changed my email address since the last time I posted. to boot, that was a year and a half ago. is a reintroduction necessary? I dunno. I think I prefer the idea of being someone new. though I've missed you all something terrible. love. baker P.S. i got the bit about the new single coming with poorly printed liner notes. has anybody else had the same problem with DCW? mine's got a bunch of blank pages where lyrics should be. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daisygreenlight at xxx.com Fri Dec 5 09:07:37 2003 From: daisygreenlight at xxx.com (miss lou) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 01:07:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: but there is a slide show and it's so slow, flashing through my mind Message-ID: <20031205090737.87282.qmail@web60203.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinister. in latter days, i've made it a policy not to post in such close conjuntion. or so soon after my last one. or whatever you want to say. but tonight, i just sort of felt like it. and i had some specific things to say as well. for one, what's this business about kenneth chu NOT liking breasts being rubbed against his body? has something happened to him? if so, please email me and let me know so i can send the proper condolences, flowers, get-well wishes, etc. as soon as possible. also. for those of who don't know or remember mr. robert baker, who has a new email and should be very glad his prarie is chicago and not lincoln, you should. this man has the most beautiful stories about legos you'd never even begin to imagine. *** i have realized, here at the newspaper now at 2:46 in the morning on my second official all-night book-reading and paper-writing odyssey of the semester, that this will be my last ever such episode behind this desk. unless, of course, something in my very sketchy planning system goes wrong and i end up here next week. but. for now. it seems that this is the last, and i remember past nights like this. i remember the last one actually, last semester when i was scrambling to finish a comm law paper but mostly just messing around on my blog. and the time before that i was over in the arts section finishing a photo story for my evil photojournalism class. i wonder why it seems that even those times of hideous homework and final assignments seem better than tonight. it isn't really the work itself, i suppose, more a sense of the time of those events, the other life circumstances. and i won't go so far to say that i was happier; in the spring i wasn't all that sure how i felt about anything. but hindsight always lends a comforting sense of settledness, i guess. things, life, used to be simpler. and perhaps this is the way it goes, and you move through the proverbial ebb and flow until you learn how to ride with direction. i've been listening to quite a bit of music i haven't listened to in years lately, and it's scary that it was actually years ago that i listened to it. i don't feel so old as it seems i should, but then, when i listen to it, i remember how much i used to love certain songs, how i used to write lyrics on pieces of yellow construction paper and tape them to the door of my dorm room. i miss that. and it doesn't mean i am going to go home and tape up selections from robbie williams to my door, but i suspect i will go home nd wish i had a different home. i am at another ending, and i am tired. i didn't sign up for the newspaper's winter banquet this year; i just didn't feel like dressing up again. because what i really feel like is. well. i really feel like i want some constant. and i am not surprised that i do not know what that is or would be. *** i got a job today. currently, this post is being written by the new personal secretary to the dean of the architecture college, and possibly the future official grant writer of said college. so there. i imagine myself in pleated skirts and oxfords, a stack of project proposals in one hand and a plate of cookies for my boss in the other, sashaying about like a fucking queen. xo.lou. ===== www.somewhereinbetween.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Hugo Johan <12813249 at xxx.za> Fri Dec 5 10:14:34 2003 From: Hugo Johan <12813249 at xxx.za> (Hugo Johan <12813249 at xxx.za>) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:14:34 +0200 Subject: Sinister: of catastrophes and competitions Message-ID: dear all it's been a long time... but let's leave it at that and not pretend it matters, right? thanks so much for the all the people who do keep this alive though: you still fill me with smiles everyday! it's a better world just knowing you're all out there. but enough of that back patting - you should all know how wonderful you are, and if you don't... mmh, yes, well, i was going to make some rugged and bombastic noises about sorting it out for you, but there's not really much i can do about it, is there?' but the year is on its back, CHRISTMAS presents are being made and sent (well, hopefully!) and it's time to reflect on many things. all-in-all, for me i guess its been a better year then the last, but globally it's been a bit miserable hsan't it? at least we got the new album and such... good god, what am i rattling on about, and WHY? i cold tell you about my own catastrophe with a waitress this week, but i'll rather make some comments on the album (for what it's worth) 1. some reviewers on the net complained about the sexism of SIMO,B - but they rather miss the point don't they? the fact that here it's the woman whose the boss and exploiting the lowly mail menial (in fact, exactly the reverse of the usual stereotyped scenario). what i find a lot more disturbing is the way the arrangement flourishes in the second verse of DCW. i'm not really sure it's altogether appropriate to have big joyful timpani's and soaring strings over a line saying "your face is bleeding"... but what do i know? 2. i really really miss sarah's violin. can't remember exactly which song now, but there's definitely one sax solo that i can't help thinking would have been a violin solo 4 years ago - and been much nicer. 3. i DO like the horn sections though, though i find them a little muted. generally the album lacks a bit of exuberance in the mix (i mean i think it's there in some of the songs, but the moments are mixed kind of low) - the one excpetion for me is IYFYCIL whihc is growing on me faster than anything there (granted that i loved AOAS, WUIB and LA straight off). 4. bobby definitely adds something on bass, doesn't he? 5. someone wrote about how songs from dwc sound like earlier songs - but does anyone else feel that the songs on storytelling seem almost like rehearsals for songs on dcw? ISWM sounds like a watered version of big john shaft, asleep on a sunbeam seems to resemble storytelling, black abnd white united seems to hint at (what i liked to see described on one of the set-lists as) ny pizza catcher. anyway - that should be enough content to act as a sop for introducing the REAL topic, namely the FRIENDS OF THE HEROES PHOTO-DOODLING COMPETITION! briefly, the friends are willing to contribute a goodie-bag to the person who can alter the given photo in the most inventive and amazing way. details (and the photo) can be obtained from the website at www.friendsoftheheros.co.uk (for those who are unfamiliar with it, and already muttering about list-abuse: the webzine was started as a result of sinister, and is staffed almost exclusively by sini-subbers, so please check it out!) well, that's it from me, for now. glad to hear everyone's enjoying the concerts: i'm so jealous! love JohaN +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Fri Dec 5 12:15:31 2003 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (Stefano [Steady-State]) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:15:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: reporting back #2 Message-ID: My Dear Sinister WHERE ARE YOU ALL???? [Yesterday Meet-up] yeah, you sinister people? Have you all disappeared in the winter London smog??? Last night we were only 3... yeas 1+1+1+.... In the pub... it has been extremely lovely anyway, and don´t know how but we got to discuss the future of university and education in this country. Very appropriate for a band writing songs for children! By the way, I think, the new labour policy about top-up feels for students, is simply mental! Education is a right... if people are just cut off because of their income, I´ll call that discrimination. And they dare to call themselves labour... my god! Getting to something more cheerful: [Gig#2] I think it was nice, but have to say, I quite liked more the night before... I´ll agree with Ken they looked a bit tired, especially Struan and Stevie, at least compared to last night. The gig has been a little bit shorter then last night... bizarrely enough I do like short set, because, I usually got bit (to very much) bored after about fifteen minutes even when bands I like on record are playing, but must admit that, as much as last night, If they had played probably other five hours that would have been a dream... They set list last night wasn´t terribly different from the night before, essentially the went through most of the new records, but they didn´t play... Dear catastrophe waitress (the song)... but they played Dog On Wheels and Beautiful, hence two of my favourites, and that was beautiful, and TBWTAT as encore (only one song.. guess they have been mainly kicked off by G.A.Y... shame... indeed they have got atomic kitten on stage on Monday...mhmhm..[ponders]... on the other hand I´m still sore, I´ve missed Sophie E. Bextor, playing at G.A.Y. a couple of months ago... I tried to spot her in the audience but miserably failed... ... Taking into account Kenneth report we more or less stayed near the ladies´... amazingly enough, no one did rub any part of himself on me, so I could not complained or even being pleased by the events... general silly wonders... on the other hand people looked at me with a little bit of disgust when trying to dance at Expectation. Shall learn how to contain my dancing action in a ¼ square meter base parallelepiped.... But prompted by big Stu, I´ve been push forward as the locomotor for the mystical ////sinister congas//// train... good deal we gained a few rows and managed to dance a bit... just a tiny bit though... but I guess was a good effort.... Talking about efforts: [TODAY Meet-up] Yesterday I suggested to meet up at the Dog&Duck, but Mr Carsmile Steve, was pointing out the pub is really tiny... so if there is going to be a decent turn out, we would possibly be a bit squeezed in there... a simple option is to meet at THE ANGEL nr. St. Giles, as we did last night (http://www.fancyapint.com/thepubs/pub502.htm) There should be enough room, reasonably prised pint, nice leather couch... and is literally one minute from the venue... seems pretty sensible to me! [Got this is the mail box... I think is hilarious] Dear Colleagues, Over the last 20 years, the thing which has most consistently annoyed me about the School of Biological Sciences has been the short half-life of metal teaspoons in the kitchen. Now you have to agree that making your tea or coffee with a metal teaspoon is so much more satisfactory that using the plastic alternative, even though the latter may be more hygienic. But we are constantly frustrated by a dastardly thief (or indeed, thieves). This year I thought that a guilty conscience had finally got the better of the criminal. In April I bought 4 rather splendid metal teaspoons for £1 in a cut-price store, and put two in the kitchen. They immediately disappeared, but. miraculously, a substitute spoon (albeit of inferior quality) immediately appeared and has remained in the kitchen for the entire summer and autumn ...... until not, that is. This week it too finally disappeared. I am going to put my remaining two metal teaspoons in the kitchen today. I appeal to the thief (or thieves) to take pity on a sad old man and leave him the one pleasure remaining in his life, viz to stir his tea bag with a proper spoon. And its also a legacy to he Department. Goodness knows, the way things are going around here, it may be my only legacy! [end] Hope you are all well Love Stefano #~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~# When you sleep do you see an angel in dying light Or can you see someone standing outside trying to set you alight Or maybe you've seen someone somewhere before that I might have loved if i'd never loved you but you only see me in bad dreams +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Fri Dec 5 12:16:08 2003 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (Stefano [Steady-State]) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:16:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: reporting back #2 Message-ID: My Dear Sinister WHERE ARE YOU ALL???? [Yesterday Meet-up] yeah, you sinister people? Have you all disappeared in the winter London smog??? Last night we were only 3... yeas 1+1+1+.... In the pub... it has been extremely lovely anyway, and don´t know how but we got to discuss the future of university and education in this country. Very appropriate for a band writing songs for children! By the way, I think, the new labour policy about top-up feels for students, is simply mental! Education is a right... if people are just cut off because of their income, I´ll call that discrimination. And they dare to call themselves labour... my god! Getting to something more cheerful: [Gig#2] I think it was nice, but have to say, I quite liked more the night before... I´ll agree with Ken they looked a bit tired, especially Struan and Stevie, at least compared to last night. The gig has been a little bit shorter then last night... bizarrely enough I do like short set, because, I usually got bit (to very much) bored after about fifteen minutes even when bands I like on record are playing, but must admit that, as much as last night, If they had played probably other five hours that would have been a dream... They set list last night wasn´t terribly different from the night before, essentially the went through most of the new records, but they didn´t play... Dear catastrophe waitress (the song)... but they played Dog On Wheels and Beautiful, hence two of my favourites, and that was beautiful, and TBWTAT as encore (only one song.. guess they have been mainly kicked off by G.A.Y... shame... indeed they have got atomic kitten on stage on Monday...mhmhm..[ponders]... on the other hand I´m still sore, I´ve missed Sophie E. Bextor, playing at G.A.Y. a couple of months ago... I tried to spot her in the audience but miserably failed... ... Taking into account Kenneth report we more or less stayed near the ladies´... amazingly enough, no one did rub any part of himself on me, so I could not complained or even being pleased by the events... general silly wonders... on the other hand people looked at me with a little bit of disgust when trying to dance at Expectation. Shall learn how to contain my dancing action in a ¼ square meter base parallelepiped.... But prompted by big Stu, I´ve been push forward as the locomotor for the mystical ////sinister congas//// train... good deal we gained a few rows and managed to dance a bit... just a tiny bit though... but I guess was a good effort.... Talking about efforts: [TODAY Meet-up] Yesterday I suggested to meet up at the Dog&Duck, but Mr Carsmile Steve, was pointing out the pub is really tiny... so if there is going to be a decent turn out, we would possibly be a bit squeezed in there... a simple option is to meet at THE ANGEL nr. St. Giles, as we did last night (http://www.fancyapint.com/thepubs/pub502.htm) There should be enough room, reasonably prised pint, nice leather couch... and is literally one minute from the venue... seems pretty sensible to me! [Got this is the mail box... I think is hilarious] Dear Colleagues, Over the last 20 years, the thing which has most consistently annoyed me about the School of Biological Sciences has been the short half-life of metal teaspoons in the kitchen. Now you have to agree that making your tea or coffee with a metal teaspoon is so much more satisfactory that using the plastic alternative, even though the latter may be more hygienic. But we are constantly frustrated by a dastardly thief (or indeed, thieves). This year I thought that a guilty conscience had finally got the better of the criminal. In April I bought 4 rather splendid metal teaspoons for £1 in a cut-price store, and put two in the kitchen. They immediately disappeared, but. miraculously, a substitute spoon (albeit of inferior quality) immediately appeared and has remained in the kitchen for the entire summer and autumn ...... until not, that is. This week it too finally disappeared. I am going to put my remaining two metal teaspoons in the kitchen today. I appeal to the thief (or thieves) to take pity on a sad old man and leave him the one pleasure remaining in his life, viz to stir his tea bag with a proper spoon. And its also a legacy to he Department. Goodness knows, the way things are going around here, it may be my only legacy! [end] Hope you are all well Love Stefano #~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~# When you sleep do you see an angel in dying light Or can you see someone standing outside trying to set you alight Or maybe you've seen someone somewhere before that I might have loved if i'd never loved you but you only see me in bad dreams +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Fri Dec 5 12:25:06 2003 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (Stefano [Steady-State]) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:25:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: *WE* are on the radio Message-ID: yes, *we* the sinister mailing list are on tye radio... there will be a report about B&S gigs and related things, this is the address and can be listened in streaming: http://www.radiopopolare.it/html/onair/index2.html it is italian... for one privilege of speakinbg a rather exotic language... support Radio Popolare! and take care stefano #~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~# When you sleep do you see an angel in dying light Or can you see someone standing outside trying to set you alight Or maybe you've seen someone somewhere before that I might have loved if i'd never loved you but you only see me in bad dreams +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david_moore at xxx.uk Sat Dec 6 01:01:50 2003 From: david_moore at xxx.uk (David Moore) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 01:01:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Astoria, Friday 5th Message-ID: <000001c3bb94$8a8c24a0$462894d9@oemcomputer> Hi All, Too late for proper opinionated Reporting Back, so just a factual setlist. Tonight at the Astoria we were treated to: Passion Fruit Expectations Step Into My Office, Baby Wrapped Up In Books Woman’s Realm Get Me Away From Here, I’m Dying I’m Waking Up To Us Travellin’ Light You Don’t Send Me You’re Just A Baby This Guy’s In Love With You [Burt Bacharach] The State I Am In Dirty Dream #2 Piazza, New York Catcher Asleep On A Sunbeam String Bean Jean California Dreaming [Mamas And The Papas] (part) If She Wants Me The Wrong Girl Roy Walker Stay Loose I’m A Cuckoo Sleep The Clock Around I don’t know how big a fragment of a song has to be before it gets listed: I reckon Stevie tuned up on ‘Blackbird’ before one song, and a few bars of a Simon & Garfunkel song got aired, as did the trusty ‘Dazed & Confused’ bassline. Despite what I might have lead a certain nice person to believe, I did have a good time, so thanks to the band. Stuart wore *JEANS*. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brasure at xxx.net Sat Dec 6 23:10:37 2003 From: e.brasure at xxx.net (Eric Brasure) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:10:37 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Love on the (temporarily paused) March, Part II Message-ID: <003d01c3bc4e$2903c610$74fea8c0@joshua> Okay, I'm going to try this again. Does the Step Into My Office, Baby single exist in North America? I don't even want the damn thing that much, but it's become a crusade. I have not found ONE store that has it. Most places don't even know what I'm talking about. Amazon.com doesn't have it. This is pissing me off. A lot. American, Canadians, whoever. Help me out. If you have it, tell me how you got it. Love, Eric +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From popsingersfear at xxx.com Sat Dec 6 23:35:01 2003 From: popsingersfear at xxx.com (Gayle E. Anderson) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:35:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: By The Side Of A Dying Man Message-ID: Sinister. It has been a while. Glasgow Royal Infirmary, for those who haven't seen it, is a massive building. Probably, although not certainly, 200 years old. 200 years seems a reasonable estimate as their is not much of a car park, so perhaps it was built when horses and carts brought sick people in. The front of the building, where the entrance is, faces Glasgow City Centre. Glasgow City Of Architecture. Next to the building is the Cathedral. Another very old building. At this time of year if you should happen to be facing the building, look upwards and see the only ward that has Christmas trees. That is Ward 5. The walls in Ward 5 are mint green. Outside the ward is an uncomfortable padded bench. In bed one of Ward 5 there is an elderly gentlman named Mr Hay. Mr Hay is clearly bored as he sits in his bed with a unlit cigarette in his mouth. Earlier in the day Mr Hay took and hid a bottle of wine from the raffle hamper. The nurses have their work cut out for them when Mr Hay gets bored. There is quite alot of activity in Ward 5. Nurses rushing about doing what nurses do. Doctors coming and going. But not all of Ward 5 is so active. At the very entrance to Ward 5, on the right hand side there are 2 rooms. On one room the door is open and a man is sitting eating and talking to a younger woman, perhaps his daughter. That is bed 21. The room next to that is the last bed on the ward. Bed 22. The door on that room is not open, and the curtains are closed over. In bed 22 lies the shadow of a man.Too weak to move, too weak to talk, only just enough strength to open his tired blue eyes and look for not even a minute. I take his hand in mine. We sit for a time. I want to talk to him, but I cannot get the words. He holds my hand. In such a whisper that he is almost not heard he says my hands are cold, do I want gloves. I smile. After a time, we leave, I kiss him on the cheek. That was wednesday. A late night at work on thursday prevented me from going through that night. I am told he is much better, he was talking about the football and wanted to watch bowls on the tv. On friday afternoon, he is the same as wednesday. For a while I go into Glasgow City Centre, I want to buy him a Christmas Card. I spend some time looking but I cannot choose one. I return. We sit with him. Before we leave I kiss him on the cheek and whisper in his ear 'I will see you soon'. On friday evening my mum goes back through, I choose not to as I feel very tired and have an early start the next day. I will however go through straight from work. That night I remember. I remember the sweets he kept in the cupboard behind his chair. I remember helping him plant seeds in the greenhouse. When they grow up they will go into the garden, he has the most beautiful garden. I remember everything. I write a letter for him, but maybe not to him, about how much I love him, and how all my memories of him are so special. The next morning, Saturday morning, this morning, I get a bus ticket to get me from home to work, and from work to Glasgow. The bus ticket is never used. Bed 22 on Ward 5 lies empty now. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bolshyfeminist at xxx.com Sun Dec 7 17:23:39 2003 From: bolshyfeminist at xxx.com (Heather Swinsco) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 17:23:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Step Into My Office, Baby Message-ID: Hello Sinister, Johan wrote: ��some reviewers on the net complained about the sexism of SIMO,B - but they rather miss the point don't they? the fact that here it's the woman whose the boss and exploiting the lowly mail menial (in fact, exactly the reverse of the usual stereotyped scenario).� I agree as far as the song alone is concerned, but I�m not so sure about the video of SIMO,B. In case you haven�t seen it, the male window cleaner is taken advantage of by a lot feisty female office staff, but in the end he falls in love with a less dominant woman (also a window cleaner), gets married to her and lives happily ever after. Right at the end the other women end up in a chaotic fight over the wedding bouquet and are laughed at by their male co-workers. Isn�t that just a bit anti-feminist? The more traditional relationship is portrayed in a positive light, while the women who had taken on the stereotypical male role are portrayed negatively, and are indeed ridiculed by their male colleagues. Moreover, the fact that they fight over the bouquet suggests that they yearn for the traditional relationship that the female window cleaner finds herself in by the end and are therefore dissatisfied with their �masculine� roles. Of course, as my email address suggests, I may be a little biased here and if anyone else has a different perspective, do let me know� Heather PS I do actually like this song and this isn�t an attack on B&S in general, who, of course, I adore. _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather_boa at xxx.com Sun Dec 7 18:48:20 2003 From: feather_boa at xxx.com (Feather Boa) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:48:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: give me nine pars on that belles gig Message-ID: Sinister/Feather Boa/07 Dec Reporting Back....1 Pop group Belle and Sebastian played their third night at the London Astoria on Friday. Fans were treated to a set which included �Expectations� and a Mick Cooke rendition of �This Guy�s in Love with you�. A number of Sinisterines including Stephano and Liz took part in indie karaoke before the show. The sell out crowd, however, was disappointed when the band were unable to play an encore due to the fact there was a clubnight in the venue that evening. �We were going to come on and do another song, but there�s a club on so we can�t�, stated singer Stuart Murdoch. The band also apparently suffered a number of sound problems during the night, although these were not obvious to the audience. Nonetheless, Struan managed to enjoy himself, flirting with some Swedish girls down the front and then stage diving. "We had some problems with the sound, but about half-way through, i just thought 'fuck it' and started enjoying myself." Murdoch said. An aftershow party at the nearby Borderline was enjoyed by all who attended it, even your reporter�s friend Daniel who isn�t on sinister. (ends) this might only be remotely funny if you're a journalism student (which i am now). sorry about that. i had a really cracklingly good time, and met up with lots of lovely sinister types. hurrah. pip pip, fb X ps, wow i haven't posted in ages. ***************************************************************************************** http://featherboa.blogspot.com - bandwagonesque http://groups.yahoo.com/group/yorksini - big up to the york sinister massive. innit _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sexychickswithheadwounds at xxx.com Mon Dec 8 18:48:16 2003 From: sexychickswithheadwounds at xxx.com (leyda campbell) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 18:48:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: midwest meetup is the idea, getting people involved is the plan Message-ID: hello loves!! so i am sitting here at work doing anything but and i am thinking how nice it would be after the chaos of the holidays to have a big midwest meet up and have some mischeif. i never meet enough interesting people living here in st. louis so if we met up somewhere cool like chicago we could do all sorts of fun things like throwing pennys off the sears tower and going dancing. if anyone is interested than contact me and i will put it into action. also, i saw the video for SIMO,B and i think its tops. everyone needs to get there sensitive knickers out of tight knots and just enjoy. kisses, leyda _________________________________________________________________ Our best dial-up offer is back. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stugardiner at xxx.com Mon Dec 8 20:52:32 2003 From: stugardiner at xxx.com (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 20:52:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm A Pigeon Message-ID: OK, let's see if this message gets through (my one on Friday seems to have gone out to the list, but isn't in the archives - strange...) Anyway, time for a bit more Reporting Back from Friday night. Some randomly-ordered thoughts: 1. Another great gig, good sound, good playing, good setlist, good venue. Finally, B&S can pull it all together. Shame about the curfew which meant there wasn't time for an encore, but that wasn't their fault. 2. London beer is waaaaaay too expensive. 3. Sadly, no repeat of Thursday night's balloon modelling by the drum tech halfway through the gig. 4. Still not huge numbers of people dancing, but a few more than the previous nights. Then I realised looking around the auditorium - all the people dancing seemed to be Sinister. Be proud - WE ROOLED. 5. I would list all the current and former sinisterines I saw there, but it'd take for ever. Hello to you all. 6. The Spanish bar is too small. 7. The aftershow was eventually fun. Initially I walked in and didn't think I knew anyone. Then a few beers later I realised everyone was hiding in various corners of the room. Cue two or three hours chatting to sinisterines, band members, management, random people I've never met before and don't know who the hell they were, and various others. 8. Unfortunately I couldn't make it to the after-aftershow party party, because I had to go back to my mate's house where I was staying, and wake him up at 3am to let me in. Thankfully he's very forgiving... 9. I reckon over the last five days in London I've consumed well over a hundred units of alcohol. That can't be good for you. 10. The version of Sleep The Clock Around wasn't, isn't and never will be anywhere near as good as the live version. Time to dance like no-one's watching... Oh yeah, I don't think anybody has mentioned this yet; the next single will be I'm A Cuckoo (hooray!), with B-Sides Travelling Light and Passion Fruit plus one or two others, and will be out on February 16th. Or at least, that's the plan at the moment, I'm sure they'll announce it formally when it's confirmed. And since it is (in my opinion at least) a much better and more radio friendly song than the Good Vibrations rip-off, it should do a lot better in the charts than number 32 (which the band were disappointed with, but the record company were mysteriously pleased about). Right, enjoy the rest of the tour you lucky people, I wish I could join you. In the meantime, I'll lurk for a few months, and look forward to maybe Glastonbury... Big Stu _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com Tue Dec 9 09:05:04 2003 From: a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com (a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 01:05:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: IKEA, mixtapes and snow: reflections by a Swede. Message-ID: <20031209090506.8796.h027.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> Dearest Sinisterettes, So, seems like about 90% of you have been seeing the lovely Belles live in the last couple of, er, weeks? My memory is bad, but I've read a lot of reporting back posts about lack of dancing, parties, setlists and singles. Very nice indeed, so thank you. When Sarah and Stevie were here in October, they told me they'd come here to tour next spring, I hope that it's true. I'm not saying that they were lying, I'm just saying that maybe it won't pull through. The, by far, best thing to call someone ever: Shitehawk. I don't know why, but it strikes me as incredibly funny and a VERY strange combination of words. Maybe it's some sort of crude way that's only funny if you're British or something, but what the hell. Also, it was Fred Durst who was being called a Shitehawk. Just for being really crap in general. Haha. I hate Fred Durst. He looks like a fish and is responsible for the likes of Linkin' Park. Hrrrrr. Last night, I went to IKEA with my mum and my sister. I know I'm Swedish and IKEA is typically Swedish, but, really, I love it. My very funny grandmother calls it hell on earth due to huge amounts of people, often with small children, with their trollies, trying to push their way through the crowds, i.e. knocking all the things you're carrying out of your hands and then grunt dissapprovingly at you for dropping your things. Sure, that can happen. Mostly, though, a lot of cute babies, ecstatic over fluffy toys and weird things that are modern and assymetric and will teach them something, um. And we bought stuff. A lot of stuff. Hehehe. Personally, I bought a carpet, two plants (big step for me, formerly known as The Plant Killer, known to kill all plants (cactuses included) but know Responsible and Realizing The Value Of Plants) and, er, 22-singlepacked Twix. Oh shut it. It was like, £2. How could I help myself?´ I then got home, and re-arranged things and cleaned up while listening to this great show on the radio, on once a week, called P3 Pop and I got to listen to an interview and lots of songs by this British guy called Patrick Wolf, he was amazing. Ah. It's always nice to hear something new. It's sort of snowy here now. Well, snow, but semi-melted snow. It's icy too (boo!) but the snow is sort of nice. It's very Christmas-y. Ah. I managed to get my Sinister Pressies out in time! YAY! YAY! YAY! I did it! I am trying to change you see. Some kind of pre-new year-revelation. I have to be a better person, for I am indeed living a bad life. Not bad as in a dangerous life, but not good for me in the long run I guess. So. I'm cleaning. I'm trying to do my work in time and not act as though I am Ruler of Procrastination Land. I send off things in time. I make lists of things to buy. I'm finally recording the demo as well, it keeps me up at night sometimes, just thinking how marvellous to have something of my own, that is completely there because of me, that I created. It's so strange. There's been talking about recording with Pelle, Amanda's dad, since last fall, but this time I know we're going to do this. We palyed sort of a mini-gig to him and he got all enthusiastic so it should go well. And it's good, because the songs I wrote a year ago were crap. Finally. I saw birds flying in circles for about a minute, just zooming around for the fun of it with the sunrise as a background. I don't know why but it puta smile on my face. They were just flying around, happy. And there goes the cliché about how free they are. Maybe one of them was a dictator/fascist type of bird and was forcing the other birds, maybe the slackerette teens, to zoom around for excercise. You never do know, do you? Ah well. I have to get my Swedish class now. It's not that much fun because we've just started reading Candide by Rousseau and it's doesn't seem like a lot of fun. Quite the opposite as a matter of fact. Christmas is a-coming! I say Hurrah to every season where you can decorate with reindeers. Take care, luv Astrid x --------------------------------------------------- Who would you rather be - Ted Danson or Kevin Costner? Fab: Who the fuck is Ted Dancer? Ted Danson. Fab: Oh, Danson. Nick: I think Ted Danson wears a toupee. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Tue Dec 9 10:01:13 2003 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:01:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: another gig, another planet Message-ID: <3692819.1070964073@slir2301.central.susx.ac.uk> Quick reporting back from Brighton last night. This setlist is not in the correct order at all but all of the following were definitely played at some point: bit from Storytelling Expectations Step Into My Office Baby Wrapped Up In Books Seeing Other People If She Wants Me You Don't Send Me Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying Dog On Wheels Jonathan David (I'd forgotten how much I like this song) Another Girl, Another Planet [The Only Ones] (despite loud clamouring for Hit Me Baby One More Time...) Dirty Dream No 2 Sleep The Clock Around (rawk!) Lord Anthony (lovely lovely) Too Much Love I'm a Cuckoo Slow Graffiti (not great) Roy Walker Stay Loose (electro-tastic!) Piazza New York Catcher Asleep on a Sunbeam The Boy With the Arab Strap Contrary to what I was led to believe, the show was in the Dome Concert Hall, rather than the smaller Pavilion Theatre. It was all a bit posh and RAH-esque. Hilarious Brighton hipsters mingled sulkily with excitable 16 year olds in woolly scarves. I lost my cloakroom ticket five minutes after arriving. We did not partake of any beverages, however Matt bought me some new badges. Didn't see any of Franz Ferdinand I'm afraid but they sounded pretty dull through the various walls. Stuart seemed really tired to start with, and only really loosened up during the closing songs. (Cue terrible dancing and gay tambourine antics.) Some amusing comments about 'it's Monday so we must be in Bournemouth... Brighton I mean'. Lighting was great. Chris Geddes playing the xylophone is possibly the sexiest sight ever. The band were much more comfortable playing new songs than old ones; Stuart STILL forgets his words to everything off Sinister. Swing Your Cock Around was a feast of rock action and from the new album I'm a Cuckoo and Stay Loose were outstanding - I think Stuart's voice just gets bettter and better and this album really shows it off. The audience were as subdued as the band at first, but got deafening when it came to requests - a fan of Le Pastie de la Bourgoisie was particularly vocal. Someone shouted at Stevie to 'get a move on' while he was preparing for Another Girl Another Planet and was roundly ticked off by Stuart. By the end there was mad dancing down the front which was good to see, and a boy in front of me kindly provided silent drum accompaniment/conducting duties the whole time. I sat down all night because Matt has a bad back at the moment, but this does not mean I am old and boring oh no. It *was* a schoolnight though... Right, back to dull December and work. But see Londoners soon maybe hopefully... love Archel xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Tue Dec 9 18:39:19 2003 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 18:39:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: b&s! sheffield! riot girls! Message-ID: jackson dancing to her jazz two badly dressed people got up on stage and sang 'don't you want me baby?' - murdoch said that sheffield is "[his] kinda town" apparently he went running the previous evening and composed something in his head. they didn't really know the words to 'don't you want me baby?' though it's worth noting that TONITE the human league are playing at the city hall, which is also where b&s played. perhaps they'll do a b&s song. there were seats in the venue, but as soon as the band came on everyone in the whole place stood up and stayed stood up and it went like this (setlist stolen from the bowlie site, kerpow): Passion Fruit in which our boys go all dick dale and rock out and such Expectations in which our boys rock a lot harder than the album version and prompt me to think 'when we had that list of stuff that had never been played before, was this on it?' and so on, nobody has really addressed this issue, though the song has been turning up on setlists all over the shop of late - am i getting it confused with something else Step into my office, baby in which our boys play their recent chart hit, competently Wrapped up in books in which our boys play a surely future chart hit with gusto. i like this song a lot, the lyrics are great, though quite why we're going to find stuart murdoch out in the country is beyond me Womens Realm in which our hero thought this was 'there's too much love' until the lyric about 'a torch and woman's realm' right at the end. afterwards murdoch sez that one of the bits of it sounds a bit like a song which i didn't know, the themetune to something from too long ago for me to remember. jackson and murdoch have a brief onstage discussion about being old. do you think they plan these in advance? Waking up to us in which murdoch frees himself from the shackles of the mike stand and does that quaint, kind of constipated dance that he premiered (maybe) on jools holland. our hero is reminded how good a song this is Beautiful in which our boys bust out one of their more melancholy numbers, complete with low level lighting and a hushed audience Travellin' light in which jackson has something of a crisis of confidence before playing this ok song ok - does he feel bad it wasn't on the record? does he feel inferior to murdoch? is he aware of how crap the lightshow is? all this adds a touch of melancholy to the proceedings - for what thought do we give to those who surround genius? are not their pains equally worth our time? does the gasman really love to drill? Photo Jenny in which we are reminded why we liked b&s in the first place You Dont send me in which we are prompted to wonder once more quite what 'you don't send me' actually means - this song more than most makes our hero think that anyone who has commented on b&s' more 'upbeat' new sound (and i think there have been a few) are wrong though Audience Participation - Dont you want me in which a long time is spent arsing about for a quite rubbish cover version of a great song. people who can't dance or sing and don't look very good aren't pop stars for a reason you know (it's because they can't dance or sing and don't look very good - i'll admit there are flaws with this) and in which the annoying man standing next to me who has been talking to his mate quite a lot actually decides he's enjoying himself and starts clapping right next to my ear, our hero turns the other cheek Dog on Wheels in which we all contemplate just what 'anything goes' would constitute and in which our hero imagines, if only for a second, a blow up dog on wheels Dirty Dream #2 in which our boys continue with the innuendo-laden ditties and our hero wishes they would do the fusion bit off the end of 'a spaceboy dream' as the intro, but still enjoys it Piazza New York Catcher in which our boys are reduced to just two and murdoch sings about eloping and running off and such - but with who stuart? and why? Asleep on a sunbeam in which our boys play things in the same order as they appear on the new album - clever that huh? and in which martin's voice is actually amplified so that you can hear it(!) Like Dylan in the movies in which our hero thinks if he has ever seen dylan in any movies, and concludes that he hasn't and in which our boys remember the red coloured album which isn't the soundtrack one If you find yourself Caught in love in which our boys rock the christian rock, sort of, and lay the diss on the war in iraq, sort of Roy Walker in which murdoch asks the stage hand for 'an occasional table' Stay Loose in which a strange effect is added to murdoch's voice, which our hero initially thinks will botch the song because he sounds too high, but actually works really well once he gets used to it. and in which our boys ROCK OUT - chu mentioned a city with in a city in nottingham which is called THE ROCK CITY and if there was really a THE ROCK CITY it would probably sound like this (i recently spent one of the worst weekends of my life in nottingham, including a visit to THE ROCK CITY and it sounds nothing like this, it sounds more like your mates sister's bedroom and looks a bit like laser quest but without the guns) Sleep The clock around in which our boys triumphantly play their best song ever and don't even mess up the words ENCORE Judy and the dream of horses in which our boys plot their entire career trajectory in their one emblematic song, starting off all faint and twee and with out of tune recorders and band members learning their parts on stage just before the start of the song and steadily build it all up to some sort of lush pop FIASCO with probably gun noises and a big fuck off twee prog ending which last about two hours afterwards there was an offbeat after party which murdoch and jackson and probably some of the backing musicians we don't care about were at and jackson was dancing to huggy bear and he was wearing a spotty tie and i was wearing a spotty tie and just for one second i glanced over at where he was dancing and he looked so content and i thought "stevie, you're alright" _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Wed Dec 10 11:07:37 2003 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:07:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Step into my alley, bowlers (***27th Dec International Sinister B owling Day***) Message-ID: Did you know that 10-pin bowling is now an official Olympic sport, and England have now appointed an official committee to pick the teams???!? They're the BOWL SELECTERS. Wahey! --------------- Anyway. It's coming to the time of the year when (ahem) "traditionally" all sinisters in the world go 10-pin bowling, drinking and engaging in general rendezvous. So what are YOU going to be doing? So people from around the world start getting together now!! And plan some BOWLING innit. It's like a flash mob, but without the flash, or the mob, and with some bowling added in. Here's a rough plan for the London division... LONDON SINISTER BOWLERS GO BOWLING Date: 27th Dec Time: 14:00 Location: Rowan's Bowling - Finsbury Park If you've been before you know the drill. Rowan's Entertainment is just opposite the Finsbury Park tube/train/bus station (The bit where there's some erk.. Arsenal FC Merchandise shop lurking about), meet up outside that Tube station (or INSIDE since it's freezing) (The choice of location has NOTHING to do with the fact that I live 2 minutes bus away from there honest....) Then we can proceed to Rowans across the road for drinking and admire the miraculous bowling techniques of each other, and take it from there! There are pool tables and video games and STUFF as well as the bowling, how good is that? How does that sound? If you are interested give me an e-mail so I can get a rough idea of how many people are gonna be there - wow I might even BOOK SOME LANES. ---------- People in other countries/cities GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER AND GO BOWLING on the 27TH DEC!!! Yay! Ken ********************************************************************** This email is confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If this email was not intended for you please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator at uclh.org. 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I'll call it «Alpha-ghetti, dirty plates and unpaid bills», since I'm looking at what's on my desk and being happy it's all over soon for a whole month... yay! Ah the joys of going back to good old civilization! By the way, is there a bowling thing in Montreal or Ottawa on the 27th? Sounds like a good idea... All right, back to psychology now... Emmash XOX _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! http://messenger.fr.msn.ca/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From younnoh at xxx.com Wed Dec 10 23:05:51 2003 From: younnoh at xxx.com (Youn Noh) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:05:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: I'll be your mirror Message-ID: <20031210230551.87147.qmail@web21207.mail.yahoo.com> I've been waiting, in vain, to hear reporting back from the Chickfactor shows, L'age d'or de pop. I guess people learned their lesson after last year, or maybe they were all wearing mascara and false lashes to live up to the glamour of the occasion. It's too self-revealing to cry, unless you're innocent. Or adults are supposed to shed silent tears. I caught a glimpse of my year-old niece in front of the mirror yesterday practicing faces. This was just after I'd carried her away from an electric cord. She protested loudly and then gave me a new look, totally different from her usual smiles, narrowed eyes and a sort of smirk. This is extremely valuable, to learn to pull off these reactions without thinking. It's funny because it's clear that she intends for her expressions to be social. I'm just starting this book on social cognition, and one of the premises is that grasping that other members of one's species are intentional agents enables members of that species to share knowledge, and cultural transmission progresses much faster than biological evolution. So I read interviews from the back issues of chickfactor to tide me over. There are great interviews with Isobel and with Jessica Griffin from the Would Be Goods. Reading them back to back, there was a nice contrast in worldviews, based on age and life experiences. I miss Isobel, too. (I think Stuart said he missed her first.) I like it when she said that she enjoyed being approached by girls her own age after shows. I wish I credited her youth when I was younger. This must have something to do with accepting yourself. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From staralful at xxx.com Wed Dec 10 23:39:54 2003 From: staralful at xxx.com (Jonathan Skinner) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:39:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: requiem for the love i once felt. Message-ID: so my one night stand with the band was a week ago but i must say it was an affair to remember. i really can't think of a gig that i have enjoyed as much. well ok Yann Tiersen but that's a different story involving a different genre a small venue and being surrounded by nice looking french girls. i honestly didn't know what to expect from them even though i had seen them in '99 in dublin. i knew they had changed as a band but i really couldn't believe how much they had changed. they seemed dare i say it....happy. they were just enjoying the night ( wednesday at least) and the audience seemed to really dig it too. the venue i hated purely because the girl wouldn't take my £5 note even though i had just got it in a bar in Camden not 20 minutes earlier. ok perhaps i threw around the amount of F words with the reckless abandon that only a tipsy irish man could but it meant that i had to bum a tenner off my brother until we got out of the venue. damn expensive beer , it worked out at well over 6 great european euro's for a can of the stuff. plus my camera was taken away at the door even though it expressly said on the back of the ticket that camera's were allowed for personal use. Anyway despite the unpleasentness of the door staff and the staff in general and the long line to get coats back it was a damn good gig and i am damn glad i travelled to see it. i was slightly disappointed not to meet many other sinisterines ( well i met one and held his jumper and book "the enigma" if i remember rightly (not the jumper or the person)) and we got chatting for a bit but that was pretty much it. the set list was great and the only song missing was le pastie but i suppose i can't complain. the support band were pretty good despite the lead (i want to say singer) word artist sounding an awful lot like that skinner fella who "raps" with The Streets. The music was great though , reminded me an awful lot of a dublin band called the Jimmy Cake (although they don't have vocals). i think the only real downside was Lazy Line Painter Jane (i really must apologise in advance if you or anyone affiliated with you is on the list....i really am sorry and absolve myself of any real hatred of your person , just your voice and lack of knowledge of belle and sebastian and your overwhelming amount of confidence for suprisingly litte talent) perhaps the band should vet people 6-8 weeks in advance before "asking" them to sing at the gig. i think she may be the reason that we got a two song encore. it was nice to hear Sleep the clock around all jazzed up the way it was. London didn't really didn't let me down , i loved it. i didn't expect too and i was all for just getting the mid afternoon flight and going to gig then going to the airport to get the early morning flight. damn good thing i didn't. i enjoyed camden and i enjoyed walking back to liverpool street station at 4 in the morning and the only people we saw were two polite policemen who greeted us with a chipper "morning gentlemen" no searches for drugs or suspected A+L+Q+A+E+D+A despite our rather shabby appearence. i counted 16 times the amount that we were asked " you want some hash?"(which when looking at it was remarkably bad english considering we were where english is spoken proper) i decided that i would be insulted if i WASN'T asked cos then it would mean that i looked normal. oddest thing happened today. i saw a girl that all the way through school i really liked and the kick in the balls was that she really liked me as well. for various reasons we never got together. anyway i saw her on the bus today as she is back in town from edinburgh on account of family sickness and it was like we had never had anything between us and what was even weirder i couldn't exactly remember what i liked about her. yes she is still pretty cool and cute ( she has one of those groovy lip rings) but it felt more like "ohh we must do lunch mwah mwah" and now we are both in this entirely seperate existence when before we were in the same. it is rather odd but what is even odder is that i don't feel a tinge of regret at this. is this odd? i think it is. anyway c'est la vie. bowling meet sounds great but unfortunatly there are only two place in cork to bowl , "the collosium" and the Mardyke ( i notice in some quiz thing about Ireland on one of the missprint sites that the person was to find a street with Dyke in it and they were unsuccessful. there is a whole area of cork called the Mardyke including two roads with the name. they just didn't look hard enough......... 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Ahem. I'm exceptionally happy, if it's true, to hear that bowling is now in the Olympics; it was in the Commonwealth Games in 1998 cos it's the national sport in Malaysia, go them. But then it got taken out again, boo to Manchester 2002. We (Warwick Tenpin Team) were in lovely Nottingham last month for the BUSA championships, my team mate got onto the national student squad, she's ace. She's the 7th best girl student bowler in the UK. I came 16th. (Out of 51.) Must do better. So yeah we were in Nottingham. Much twee-er than Coventry, though I wasn't very twee that day, wearing my bowling kit. We are hoping to get American style shirts soon, which will be nice. I liked Nottingham so much I went back twice, to the lovely Selectadisc and Fopp. Then last week I ventured even further north to my town of birth, Sheffield, for a special gig. But you've heard all about that off other people. I drove there, drank some coke while the others had beer, and then danced, stood in front of my seat, all thru the gig. Isn't Bobby the cutest! At Offbeat's after show party Stuart nearly bumped into me as he went charging past, but I managed to jump out the way. Stupid me. Could've ended up in a heap on the floor with him. Damn. But he signed my ticket anyway, and tried to talk to me, which is more than I can say for Stevie - I tried to talk to him and he wasn't interested. Hmph. Then I stood around encouraging a Bowlie friend to go talk to him abot the Rolling Stones, he wouldn't get up the courage. But he did in the end. On the drive back it was really foggy. I had hoped to get home in an hour (it took two hours going) cos at 2-3am there's no traffic, but not being able to see 20 metres ahead is quite a hindrance to going 80 miles an hour. So I slowed down, and passed lorry after lorry, and some crazy guy who kept over taking me and then slowing down, and swerving around in his lane, I don't know what his problem was, bloody road rage in the middle of the night! We had exhausted my tapes so one of the guys put in a tape of acoustic songs, really lovely versions of Delgados songs, and some Bright Eyes and stuff like that. Fantastic. Driving along the empty M1, feeling a bit tired but nervous of the weather conditions, all foggy AND raining, wondering when the hell we'd reach the M69 junction, the three lads all asleep, I passed a sign for Alton Towers...now I thought we'd already passed that...maybe, in this terrible weather, we've already died, I thought, and are destined to travel this dark road forever; but if we get to listen to amazing music like this all the way, that'd be fine. Then the fog cleared, I realised Alton Towers is much further south than I had thought, and later the sign for Coventry popped up, and we were ok. Still alive. A friend of mine went to the Norwich gig and he was wearing the same t shirt as Stuart, apparently the white Fred Perry shirt he always wears. But when I asked this friend if he bought the shirt *because* Stuart has it, he didn't reply. I'm not sure if he reads Sinister or not, so he may come and defend himself, but in the meantime I shall speculate. love, Joanne _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trarvild at xxx.se Fri Dec 12 13:03:34 2003 From: trarvild at xxx.se (Katarina Karlsson) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:03:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?it's_soon_christmas_and_little_miracles_happens_=28B&S_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?in_G=F6teborg!!!=29?= Message-ID: <20031212130401.PMJK2375.fep04-svc.swip.net@cola> Hej, This mail will be short, just in case anyone sinister near Göteborg (are there any?) have missed this: There are tickets for Bella and Sebastian at Trädgår'n 25e mars at: http://www.pusterviksbiljetter.com/event.asp Hugs :) Katarina P.S. 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Anyway, I'm going to see Belle&Sebastian!! THey're finally coming to Holland and my ticket is right now smiling in front of me... Okay, I have to wait until March 31, but that's wirth it!! I'm soo tired... The kids in my class were really going crazy today so I'm going crazy either soon I think. Tonight I'm watching Storytelling with a few friends, *nice* I have two questions: First: Are there Sinisters in Holland?? PLease contact me! Maybe we can set up an bowling meeting ;) Second: how do you regonize a Sinister?? (MAybe a stupid question but I'll ask it anyway..) With love, Imkexxx *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_, +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david_moore at xxx.uk Sat Dec 13 11:15:40 2003 From: david_moore at xxx.uk (David Moore) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:15:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle And Sebastian, on the radio Message-ID: <000001c3c16a$8a3aa860$082b94d9@oemcomputer> Hi All, (Sorry to anyone who sees this twice.) On Thursday 18.12.03, 2000 - 2200 GMT, Radio 1's Vic & Gill will be broadcasting the Usher Hall show, see http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/sco...how/index.shtml . You can listen live online, http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio1.shtml & then it should be available on the 'Listen Again' section afterwards. Youn waits in vain for Reporting Back on the Chickfactor 'L'Age d'Or du Pop' shows. Maybe its because there was no B&S connection ... except that Stevie Jackson was I believe supposed to make a special guest appearance on the Saturday. Family stuff detained him & by the time he arrived Stephen Duffy, the last act was already on, so no solo performance of 'Chickfactor' or anything else. I enjoyed The Pines & The Clientele of course, The Aluminum Group were entertaining & I missed Tender Trap. The company was excellent on both nights. The fashion show was also entertaining, featuring Sinister's own Juicy Lucy as one of the models in a pink-collared Office Bitch outfit. Sally entered into the spirit of the occasion by wearing gold shoes, gold featured top & carrying a matching gold handbag. Elena was there, with legs! No tears were shed, as far as I am aware. Maybe the technical involvement of checking levels, etc. provides sufficient emotional detachment. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hobart at xxx.uk Sat Dec 13 14:16:37 2003 From: hobart at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:16:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: baby, i would like to go out tonight.. Message-ID: <001801c3c183$bb3fc120$066787d9@default> quick report back: b&s in LONDON= GRATE - as much for the crowd as anything else... struan has the air of a man who knows he can turn up, do ANYTHING and receive an adoring response. for the first half of the gig, he appeared to coast on that. sarah (ooh, she's soooo lovely, in a nonsex way of course, i want to take her home and give her cups of tea), stevie, mick and The Rest all appeared to be trying, but struan looked like he didn't really want to be there. towards the end, though, he seemed to decide that he might as well make an effort. when he did, it was great. stuart murdoch has, apparently, now reached the stage where he can WALK on his fans. at one point he stepped out into the crowd, and people were inviting him to step on them. personally, i would like to think i'd have declined to make the offer. there's only so far that hero worship goes. the people at the front seemed to enjoy it, though. they're getting more RAWK every day, this band. also, i should mention that two of our number SUPPORTED b&s. stefano santabarbara and liz daplyn both put in lovely turns as kylie and deborah harry, respectively. disappointingly, the judges saw fit to award medals to some other shysters who turned up and performed. i think our kidz were ROBBED. chickfactor ball - half-assed report back.... jennifer o'connor played the guitar. it was nice. the pines were very good. there was a jazz-ish band that got on my nerves, and so i went and stood in the back bit and talked to some of YOU LOT. some of you looked very, very glam indeed. i won't mention any names, as i know how shy and retiring you are, but you KNOW WHO YOU ARE.. also, stephen tin tin duffy and the lilac time were supposed to play. actually, it was stephen and one other man. perhaps i read the flyer wrong and he was lilac tim. he didn't look very purple-pink, though. more a faded sort of rose.. there.... youn, i can't follow your lovely post with a better response as i should have left the house. i've got to get to london before the sun goes down. actually, i haven't, it just sounded kind of like a song lyric. i've actually got to get there in normal people's time, rather than ian-time. and i'm leaving the house BECAUSE OF THIS: forgive me, i had meant to put this in the middle of a lovely long e-mail about flying pygmies, dancing girls, scantily-clad boys, beautiful tunes and open-topped cars. instead, i'm just going to do it, and i know its a bit naughty.. come to TIGERMILKING tonight. in LONDON. yes, i know its short notice. yes, i know most of the list doesn't live in london. YES, i know where the summer goes - but i'm not going to tell you. (phew...does that count as b&s content?) you're probably asking...why why why BUT WHY SHOULD I? here are some lovely reasons: its nearly christmas its STEFANO'S BIRTHDAY i have it on good authority that lovely songs by the likes of the aislers set, camera obscura, saint etienne and BELLE AND SEBASTIAN (see, more content) will be played. and there will be lovely dancing, and average beer. i want to SEE YOU, COS I LOVE YOU. well, not all of you. but most of you. oh, some directions would be useful, wouldn't they? look HERE: http://www.undermybed.org/tigermilking/ or come to the betsy trotwood in farringdon TONITE. there will be people in the pub from 7 onwards. actually, there will probably be people in the pub all day, just not people you know. but go, meet them anyway, talk, laugh, enjoy the spontaneity of life, and then leave them when people you actually know arrive. come come come, enjoy, milk, shower, cheer, dance, glut, spit, wank, tit, fuck - no STOPIT, IAN. you're supposed to be NICE these days.. just come and dance, and have a nice time. yeah! yeah! yeah! yeah! yeah! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Mon Dec 15 09:53:18 2003 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:53:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: wrapped upside-down in badges Message-ID: IF I TURN MY BADGE UPSIDE DOWN, WILL YOU LOVE ME? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Imke Wiggerts asked: > Second: how do you regonize a Sinister?? (MAybe a > stupid question but I'll ask it anyway..) It certainly isn't a stupid question but it's a question that's been around for a while - and the answer has been kicking about too. Not the secret handshake, not the drinking pints of beer with only your left hand, not being uncharacteristically promiscuous to the nearest cute chinese boy you can find, the way to identify your fellow sinister person on the street is of course: ****The Upside-Down Badge**** TUDB, shit acryonym, yes, but a winner in identifying your fellow parish patrons. Searching for Upside down or "upside-down" on missprint.org will reveal a few references.. e.g. http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200303/msg00028.html http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200208/msg00153.html http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199903/msg00238.html TAKE THE SIN-HEADS BOWLING, TAKE THEM BOWLING ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Sincei it's almost 27th Dec Internation Sinister Bowling Day, I wonder how everyone's bowling plans are going... Wow Joanne Hill is a regular bowler! And she was at the AMF in Nottingham, aw, my favourite bowling alley. I hope it'll play host to an ISBD event, this year, or one day. Nottingham is fantastic, although I'm not sure about the tweeness since it is home to ROCK CITY. And my favourite club dubble-bubble is now defunct. Where do people in Nottingham go for dancing these days? Are there any Nottingham sinisters? ISBD, shit acronym also. but a winner in having fun with your fellow parish patrons. ONE NIGHT, ONE NIGHT IN TRUCK HAVEN, WILL YOU KISS ME ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- Tomorrow I'm going to find out if I can have a career as a class-1 HGV driver. Wish me luck! HGV on the other hand is quite a good acronym, anyway. Keep on trucking keep the balls rolling keep those badges upside down keetc. Ken ********************************************************************** This email is confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If this email was not intended for you please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator at uclh.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From annamoorehiggins at xxx.com Tue Dec 16 17:49:13 2003 From: annamoorehiggins at xxx.com (Anna Higgins) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:49:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Boooooowling in the Sunshine State Message-ID: <20031216174913.31225.qmail@web21001.mail.yahoo.com> OK Orlando/Suburban Central Florida Sinisters. Or maybe some of you in far-away Tampa, Sarasota, Bradenton, or Gainesville. Anyone like to bowl? On the 27th of December? ARE any of you guys out there? Write me back offlist and let's organize something! Anna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alicec123 at xxx.com Tue Dec 16 18:19:04 2003 From: alicec123 at xxx.com (Alice Colorado) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:19:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: I like what I'm saying too, Meno. Message-ID: <20031216181904.11018.qmail@web60409.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alice Colorado wrote: > Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:16:47 -0800 (PST) > From: Alice Colorado > Subject: I like what I'm saying too, Meno. > To: robin stout > > Good afternoon, lovies. > Any suggestions for a paper on the Euthyphro? > What good is the written word anyway? > One more step up the ladder? What ladder? > If I see another young thing with side-swept bangs, > I > may as well high step with them. > So much for wasting time, there she is. I must go. > alice. > --- robin stout wrote: > > I walked down the alleyway; it was a Sunday, and > if > > I went back to the house > > then things would go from bad to worse, so what > > could I do? I could hang > > about and burn my fingers, I could go up to the > > country park, get some fish > > and chips, but I've got no energy, I'm a lazy get. > > Suddenly, without a > > warning, I was surprised. I heard a voice begin to > > speak, and he told me > > something pretty strange: "It's Nineteen > > Ninety-Five". I was puzzled, I was > > confounded, I need to talk to someone. Well, it > > won't hurt to think of you, > > and listen to what other people say. So how about > > it? > > > > It occurred to me that Sunday, as I listened over > > the rustling leaves to a > > recording of a radio interview with Stuart > Murdoch*, > > that his band are > > something of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Their > > latest album, Dear > > Catastrophe Waitress, feted for its new, modern > > sound, contains no less than > > three songs written circa 1995: Dear Catastrophe > > Waitress, If She Wants Me > > and Lord Anthony. DCW was probably written even > > earlier. The vast majority > > of Belle and Sebastian's output appears to have > been > > written during 95-96, > > including the first two albums, the first three > EPs, > > and the title track of > > the fourth, to name just the ones I know of. > > > > << Sebastian wrote all of his best songs in 1995. > In > > fact, most of his best > > songs have the words 'Nineteen Ninety-five' in > them. > > It bothered him a > > little. What will happen in 1996? >> > > > > So my question is this. My problem, my confusion, > > the puddle in my Sunday > > pile of leaves. Exactly how many songs did Stuart > > write in 1995? Are there > > any other bands who wrote most of their songs in a > > couple of years then > > released them years and years later? Is this in > any > > way significant? Where > > are my glasses? Oh, there they are! > > > > Mr David Moore, Lord of Chelmsford sent me a > little > > correction to the lyrics > > of Scooby Driver. Here are the full lyrics for > > anyone who gives a cock. > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Scooby Driver > > > > > > I'm coming over in the wrong direction > > I only want to be the centre of your attention > > For long enough to show you I'm worth the trouble > > that you take > > > > I want to see the way that you portray > > A boy who maybe doesn't have too much to say > > And you can draw your own conclusions > > But you'll find I'm not a fake > > > > You can turn away from me > > But there's nothing that'll keep me here you know > > And you'll never be the city guy > > Any more than I'll be hosting the Scooby Show > > > > +++ > > > > Feeling terrible I need protection > > There's a lot of ugly stuff that's going on > > I want to live my life inside a car that's movin' > > fast > > I want to see the way that you portray > > A boy who's going to try and change his life today > > > > +++ > > > > Everybody's clearly out to get me > > I�ve got a right to stay inside my bedroom door > > And close my eyes and listen to the music > > Really makes you sore > > And if you turn away from me > > I will put you on my list of folk to hate > > I will write it in my diary > > And I will take revenge at a later date > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > I was randomly searched for drugs on Friday while > I > > waited at the station > > for my mislaid train. Charlie, the police dog, > > apparently thought I smelled > > of drugs, but I'm sure that he could just smell > the > > bacon I'd had for my > > dinner. They took me into a back room, and filled > in > > a form about me while I > > dropped my trousers. Well, I thought I was > > *supposed* to drop my trousers. > > That's what they do on telly, isn't it? "There's > no > > suspicious packages in > > *there*, sir." Helen, the disarmingly fragrant > > police officer, asked me how > > old I was and what I did. I think she fancied me. > > Gosh, I thought, and > > tipped my hat to a more attractive angle. But > > Charlie could smell bacon > > again and they were off, so I buckled up my > trousers > > and went to find my > > train. > > > > I wonder if anyone has bought Step Into My Office > > Baby yet.. > > > > Au revoir, mes petits fours, > > > > Robin x > > > > > > *http://www.xfm.co.uk/Article.asp?id=13547 > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN > > Messenger today! > > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister > > mailing list +---+ > > To send to the list mail > > sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe > > sinister-digest" to > > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: > > http://www.missprint.org/sinister > > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart > > david, looper +-+ > > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" > "peculiarly > > deranged fanbase" +-+ > > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" > - > > NME April 2000 +-+ > > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List > > organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head > psycho-fans" > > - NME June 2001 +-+ > > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee > > kwa +-+ > > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan > > slut! +-+ > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stuartf1 at xxx.com Tue Dec 16 18:30:06 2003 From: stuartf1 at xxx.com (Stuart Flanagan) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:30:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Belle And Sebastian, on the radio In-Reply-To: <000001c3c16a$8a3aa860$082b94d9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20031216183006.42734.qmail@web40207.mail.yahoo.com> Just wondering if any kind soul with access to the Session in Scotland could Mini-Disc this for me? Please rely privately to stuartf1 at yahoo.com if you can help. Thanks Stuart --- David Moore wrote: > Hi All, > > (Sorry to anyone who sees this twice.) > > On Thursday 18.12.03, 2000 - 2200 GMT, Radio 1's Vic > & Gill will be > broadcasting the Usher Hall show, see > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/sco...how/index.shtml > . > > You can listen live online, > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio1.shtml & > then it should be available on the 'Listen Again' > section afterwards. > > > Youn waits in vain for Reporting Back on the > Chickfactor 'L'Age d'Or du Pop' > shows. Maybe its because there was no B&S connection > ... except that Stevie > Jackson was I believe supposed to make a special > guest appearance on the > Saturday. Family stuff detained him & by the time he > arrived Stephen Duffy, > the last act was already on, so no solo performance > of 'Chickfactor' or > anything else. > > I enjoyed The Pines & The Clientele of course, The > Aluminum Group were > entertaining & I missed Tender Trap. The company was > excellent on both > nights. The fashion show was also entertaining, > featuring Sinister's own > Juicy Lucy as one of the models in a pink-collared > Office Bitch outfit. > Sally entered into the spirit of the occasion by > wearing gold shoes, gold > featured top & carrying a matching gold handbag. > Elena was there, with legs! > > No tears were shed, as far as I am aware. Maybe the > technical involvement of > checking levels, etc. provides sufficient emotional > detachment. > > > > Love, > > David Moore > Chelmsford, UK > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister > mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail > sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe > sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: > http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart > david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly > deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - > NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List > organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" > - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee > kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan > slut! +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From uberelite at xxx.net Wed Dec 17 07:51:49 2003 From: uberelite at xxx.net (Kevin Holzer) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:51:49 -0800 Subject: Sinister: just another fading image on the horizon... Message-ID: <3FE00B15.2000003@adelphia.net> As I was sitting in the local cafe with all of the hipsters I know, I got to thinking about life. I'm not going to bore you all with what I thought, but I tell you, I just don't know. A girl I once liked that was into Belle and Sebastian came into the coffeshop and got some coffee, sat inside and sipped away, chattering with her pretentious friends. What a bunch of phonies. They are all into music if it is underground, regardless of whether they like it or not, and the same is true about popular or even semi-popular (modern) music, except that instead of liking it, they automatically dislike it.. She walks around with her scarf on and her hair dyed, wearing her hipster clothes and trying so hard to be cool...but I see through her disguise. I never even really met her, she was just in one of my classes, but no matter. I dont want to know her. So I sip my coffee, and play my guitar. I'll draw a picture or read a book. Chat about philosophy or literature. Whenever I feel lonely, I'll take a walk and in a minute or two I'll be out on the shore, watching the waves roll in, so violent and yet so peaceful. I'll smell the salt in the air and feel the cool autumn breeze. I'll hum a familiar tune and look up at the cloud filled sky; I wonder to myself if it's worth it. Then I think to myself again about the past few minutes, the time spent growing, and everything and I realize it is all worth it. So I walk back to the cafe and sip some more coffee, light up a cigarette, and get into a conversation with someone about a book I had read a long time ago. lots of love as always, -Kevin P.S. I hope all of you dont mind me using this place as a spot to send these little messages, they make me feel as if I have a chance to share something very personal with all of you. I could talk about music, but everyone does that. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From uberelite at xxx.net Wed Dec 17 15:26:48 2003 From: uberelite at xxx.net (Kevin Holzer) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:26:48 -0800 Subject: Sinister: just another fading image on the horizon... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3FE075B8.1090503@adelphia.net> Remember when I write this shit, it tends to be just a spew of my ideas at the moment, with no attention to anything real, I just kind of ramble and use it as an exercise in writing...I overemphasize some things and under emphasize others, its just a way of writing I've grown to like... Ink polaroids? Ill check it out once I get home, I've got school to get to and teachers to annoy. -Kevin Paulo Stinsoni wrote: > Now I don't want to get on your bad side, but why is this girl a > phoney when you haven't spoken to her? How do you know? What makes a > fan and what makes a phoney? > > You know, I like sending mails to Sinister just to get a reaction. > Good or bad. The twee argument always gets people wound up. > > AND, have you tried the ink polaroids? Check it out in the archives... > > So anyway, mellow out and let people do what they want. If it doesn't > harm anyone, then leave 'em to it. > > Paulo > > PS - I hate all that pop idol stuff and manufactured bands, but I > don't mind a few Monkees songs. > >> From: Kevin Holzer >> Reply-To: Kevin Holzer >> To: sinister at missprint.org >> Subject: Sinister: just another fading image on the horizon... >> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:51:49 -0800 >> >> As I was sitting in the local cafe with all of the hipsters I know, I >> got to thinking about life. I'm not going to bore you all with what >> I thought, but I tell you, I just don't know. A girl I once liked >> that was into Belle and Sebastian came into the coffeshop and got >> some coffee, sat inside and sipped away, chattering with her >> pretentious friends. What a bunch of phonies. They are all into >> music if it is underground, regardless of whether they like it or >> not, and the same is true about popular or even semi-popular (modern) >> music, except that instead of liking it, they automatically dislike >> it.. She walks around with her scarf on and her hair dyed, wearing >> her hipster clothes and trying so hard to be cool...but I see through >> her disguise. I never even really met her, she was just in one of my >> classes, but no matter. I dont want to know her. So I sip my >> coffee, and play my guitar. I'll draw a picture or read a book. >> Chat about philosophy or literature. Whenever I feel lonely, I'll >> take a walk and in a minute or two I'll be out on the shore, watching >> the waves roll in, so violent and yet so peaceful. I'll smell the >> salt in the air and feel the cool autumn breeze. I'll hum a familiar >> tune and look up at the cloud filled sky; I wonder to myself if it's >> worth it. Then I think to myself again about the past few minutes, >> the time spent growing, and everything and I realize it is all worth >> it. So I walk back to the cafe and sip some more coffee, light up a >> cigarette, and get into a conversation with someone about a book I >> had read a long time ago. >> >> >> >> lots of love as always, >> -Kevin >> >> >> P.S. I hope all of you dont mind me using this place as a spot to >> send these little messages, they make me feel as if I have a chance >> to share something very personal with all of you. I could talk about >> music, but everyone does that. >> +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >> +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ >> To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe >> send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to >> majordomo at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dallamsorgan at xxx.com Wed Dec 17 15:37:41 2003 From: dallamsorgan at xxx.com (Dallams Organ) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:37:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: New EP review Message-ID: <20031217153741.32451.qmail@web41709.mail.yahoo.com> http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/review.asp?id=83154 Oh Honey, We�re Ridiculous Pas/Cal Le Grand Magistery by Nate Cavalieri 12/17/2003 Like every kid fueled by sugary cereals and social dysfunction, I sometimes had a hard time sleeping. Occasionally, I could talk my mom into staying up and watching the night dramas with her. It wasn�t just trysts of entangled lovers on �Dallas� and �Falcon Crest� that confused my preadolescent mind; the adult commercials were equally mysterious. The most memorable of these was for shampoo. A beautiful, floating head, larger than life at the center of the screen, softly offered a honeyed plea: �Don�t hate me because I�m beautiful.� And then � in a few seconds � she faded out and was gone. I didn�t have an inkling of such a concept at the time � one that made a beautiful thing into an object of hatred � but in the 20 years since, the idea has come into focus. When I try to justify my utter hatred, my curdling spite, my embittered repulsion at the music of Pas/Cal, there might be no other reason except that it is too beautiful. The darling Detroit outfit�s latest, Oh Honey, We�re Ridiculous, follows the blueprint of their tuneful debut with a cache of brilliant hooks, bookish observations and blissful sentimentality. Oh Honey springs to action with hands clapping a cheerleader�s cadence and vocalist Casimer Pascal�s falsetto posing the questions: �What happened to the sand? What happened to the men who would stay up so late?� Unable to contain themselves, it takes the sing-songers just over a minute to prance buoyantly into pitch-perfect �la-di-das.� The squeaky-clean playing and attentive arrangement are almost too perfect. Imagine their shiny pink faces! Imagine them jet-setting with designer attach�s! Throwing back highballs at the club with their legs crossed at the knee and an �80s cosmetics model on each arm! You almost have to hate it. >From the perky handclaps to the final fade, Pas/Cal�s aural sunshine never finds a cloud. The subject of �Poor Maude� may be a garishly dressed granny with suicidal tendencies, but the band�s airtight pop seems to frolic through the narrative giddily. When they do wax misty for an Asian cutie with a �slurry curry voice�(how Anglo is that?!) in �What do the American Girls Have On Jennifer Jo Jo?,� the record is still on the verge of exploding in a hail of happy pills. By the time the EP joyfully spins round a handful of times, Pas/Cal�s super-chic happiness proves itself just as addictive as it is immaculate. It reinforces the band�s place as one of Detroit�s most stylistically refreshing up-and-comers. In the end, maybe the only real reason to hate the 20-minute offering is that � like the floating head � it�s a beautiful thing that disappears too fast. Pas/Cal will celebrate the release of this record on Saturday, Dec. 20, at the Lager House (1254 Michigan Ave., Detroit). Call 313-961-4668. E-mail Nate Cavalieri at letters at metrotimes.com. contact PAS/CAL at www.pascalgoespop.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Wed Dec 17 16:13:56 2003 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:13:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: she's oozing shit (New Album Review) Message-ID: Dido - Life for Rent 6.3/10 Release Date: September 30th, 2003 Review Date: October 6th, 2003 Reviewer: James Laczkowski Confession. I like Dido. I don't know why a guy like me should be shamefaced about owning her last record, No Angel. Sure, it's sandwiched in my CD collection in between Black Sabbath and Fugazi, but there's nothing wrong with diversity, damn it! Especially when you're a music devotee like me. I also have no qualms with having mutual respect for the lyrics of both Joni Mitchell and Marilyn Manson. I just want to make that clear to all those who may question my wide range of taste in music. For some reason, Dido is pleasing to these ears. I liked her latest record, No Angel, the same way I like a cold Coca-Cola on a warm summer day. Part of me does become conscious of the fact that I'm essentially drinking sugar water, devoid of any nutritional value whatsoever, but I enjoy the taste. Both of Dido's records serve as terrific background music for hanging out on the porch or at the local coffeehouse. Granted, I'm not a big proponent of "background" filler. All great art demands your attention and moves you in mysterious ways. Dido doesn't do that, but at the same time, I never shriek in terror whenever I hear one of her songs. Like Pink, she's a "guilty" pleasure for me. It's nothing that really jumps out at you, but it never annoys or interrupts the evening, but instead, complements it quite nicely. Dido never wails. She sounds as if she's trapped in a dreamscape; drifting effortlessly over the horizon. She's no Janis, but her voice suits the style quite nicely. The first two sounds that merge on the new album are that of a Moog-style synth orchestra that quickly bleeds into real violins that set the tone. It's a lovely amalgam of both the real and the synthesized. Dido builds her niche in that sound and by not evolving; it all blends together in what's essentially a continuation of the No Angel style of songwriting. The same lyrical profile takes shape with the subject of love being both inescapable, as well as in question, and finally, in jeopardy for the singer. But as unenergetic as she can sound, she still sings from the heart and not her wallet. In other words, she keeps the content and the romantic structure simple, and it works, especially in the hidden track that features the familiar acoustic strum in the key of D. No one expects the woman to reinvent herself, but of course detractors will continue to flame her for being "bland" or "boring." I beg to differ. She is relaxing without being invigorating. She doesn't make you want to rock out, because every track is consistently (and unfortunately) mid-tempo. The trip-hop ambiance full of floaty phaser keyboard with groovebox beats play themselves out over time. Beth Orton, however, has perfected that genre a little bit better and more audaciously than Dido. Still, her honesty keeps the music pure despite the obvious redundancy throughout. It's clear that she's striving to prevail, with more hit singles because some tracks sound too much like "Here With Me" and "Thank You," two songs that I enjoyed even if they were overplayed. The best tracks like the confessional "Who Makes You Feel" make her sound invitingly sensual, and the relentless melody of both "Don't Leave Home" and "Sand In My Shoes" force their way into your head and take up residence. Life For rent is, to put it simplistically, appealing and pleasant. It's well-produced and immaculately polished without ever really sounding spectacular or new. In other words, you know what to expect when you pick up a Dido record. I think if she were to branch out beyond the trip-hop conventions and lean more towards the acoustic appeal of her hidden track, then she very well might prevail over time as a stronger recording artist instead of a two-hit wonder. Whether you're a fan or not, there's no denying the sincerity in her voice when she's singing a line like "The closer you get/the better I feel/the closer you are/the more I see." There's nothing wrong with accessible plain-sounding FM pop when it's done honestly and with a sense of purity. Dido may tread familiar waters, but the weather is nice all-around. - James Laczkowski jim at music-critic.ca ---------- As I sat on the fading sunset of a December evening, i felt a lot of pain rising from below, however, the pain eased as the sunset continued to fade and the heat is sucked dry by the cold breeze of the Winter night. Now the sky is darkened, there are no stars, and my loneliness is reflected on the vast black wall of silence. That is, before the silence was broken, by the sound of the handbrake of a car, i could see from the distance it was the girl i used to love, and another man, talking, she looked impressed. I guess he must be talking about indie bands, she is impressed by indie bands, even if they're boring as hell. His music knowledge couldn't have been that vast though as soon afterwards there was no more talking, and i felt even more alone. I turned back towards the sky, no longer silent, disturbed by the noise from the badly oiled suspensions of the car. I hummed "She's losing it", but I don't know who lost. I didn't win, that man might have won, she's conceived. Ken P.S.: Hope you guys don't mind me posting crazy random stuff to here!! ********************************************************************** This email is confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If this email was not intended for you please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator at uclh.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Dec 17 23:00:52 2003 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:00:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Santa Claus is coming.... Message-ID: <20031217230052.9541.qmail@web41112.mail.yahoo.com> I was going to write to you, about the Usher Hall gig, but I couldn't be bothered, and decided "someone else will do it". So it's my last week at work, before we break up for Christmas. I thought this week was going to be chaotic, and it has, a bit, but not in the way I thought it would be. O me, O the Pessimist. I find it works out better that way though. I can really feel Christmas descending rather rapidly upon my life. I've been casually ignoring it, but I feel unable to do so anymore. My boyfriend is more organised than I am, having already done some of his christmas shopping. I think he surprised himself too - he nearly bought more presents for the people he'd already bought presents for, becuase he forgot he'd bought presents for them already, and wasn't used to being so organised. As for me, well, I think I'm going to have to blitz it. Go out for a day and bang bang bang, run from shop to shop like I'm on Supermarket Sweep, only remembering to pay for things. I'm not that fussed about Christmas as I used to be. Christmas when you're a kid is great. Santa was a bit scary though. I didn't really understand why my parents were comfortable with an old man creeping into my bedroom to put things into my socks when I was asleep. I didn't totally believe in him, but there was always the nagging doubt that he did exist. The doubt that had me hiding under the duvet at 2am, when I'd woken in the middle of the night, too scared to come out, and sweating with fear incase I saw him. Or at 3am, when I was too scared to go down stairs, even though he'd filled my stocking, in case he hadn't finished his delivery. I would often sit and go through my stocking presents, and look and play with the toys. And then I'd creep into my little brothers room, have a nosey through his stocking, and swap my tangerines with his chocolate bars, before waking him up, so he could "officially" open his stocking, and I'd feign surprise as he'd show me the cool toys he'd got. I don't know if he ever worked out why he always got 6 tangerines and no chocolate from Santa. Still, I did him a favour. He never ended up with fillings in his teeth. I'd go and wake my parents, around 4am, to take me down stairs and start opening my presents. One year, I woke every hour between 1 and 7am, and went to see my parents and woke them up and asked "can we go and see if Santa's been yet?". Impatient child that I was. When I got older, around 10 or so, I worked out that if I set my dad's alarm clock an hour forward, then he'd get up earlier. That was the year he said "I'm not getting up until 7am". I was so tired, I ended up going back to bed. And dad? Well, he woke at what he thought was 7:30am, and felt horribly guilty for sleeping in, and came to wake me and my brother, to open our presents. It was boxing day before I told him that I'd set his alarm clock forward by an hour. I hope I never have a child like me, when I'm older. Snogs and mistletoe, idles x ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Thu Dec 18 17:18:27 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:18:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: la la la dum de dum de dum Message-ID: Oh god, the perils of the modern office environment. I was walking back from the toilet with a well-thumbed copy of the DTI News, when I accidentally stumbled across an office party. I ended up drinking LOTS OF PINTS OF BEER and BALLOON MODELLING, and now i am QUITE DRUNK. I've had to meet lots of important people this afternoon and they keep looking at me funny. Ughhhhhh! One of my friends even threw me out of her office when I began to do an impression of a nude lady climbing out of a cake. It was a very good impression, too. Lord, what have I done?? I'm just going to hide in my office from now on and make a den from books and paperclips and become a HERMIT. So, anyway. Hullo, how are you? Marvellous. How's the old problem? Ah, that's grand. I was going to send you something. Hmmm, let me see. Look: http://www.belleandsebastian.com/diary.php http://www.belleandsebastian.com/store.php Lots of diary entries from Stuart on the B+S website, and new B!A!D!G!E!S! and other stuff. The letter to his brother's really great. I do enjoy reading his diary. I bet he knows how good a writer he is, though. I bet he sits writing his diary thinking, yeah, I RULE!! Like Ken does, I reckon. Uff, I was going to REPORT BACK, as well, but it seems like it's a bit too late by now. Save to say that B+S in Londonk were G*R*A*T*E*. I spoke to the Swedish man who tried to molest Struan and rolled up his trousers. His name was Simon. Me: Are you the man who tried to attack Stuart? Him: YES I AM!! Me: Oh, right. Him: I TRIED TO GRAB HIS COCK!! Me: Ah, but you failed, did you? Him: DO YOU WANT TO SEE MY TATTOOS? Me: Ah, hum. You know, I'd rather not, actually. Oh! Well! Is that a monkey? Him: THIS IS THE MOST PAINFUL PLACE TO GET A TATTOO! Me: Oh, is it really? I'd better be going, you know. Him: I GRABBED STUART'S NIPPLES! LIKE THIS!! Me: Ouch! Erf!! BYE!! I beat a hasty retreat. The rest of the weekend was fun, too. On Saturday my friends and I met an old man in a pub. His name was Bob Godden, but he said we could call him God. Hmm, I'm off for a bit of a lie down. Bye! Robin xxxxxxxxx _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From uberelite at xxx.net Thu Dec 18 14:21:54 2003 From: uberelite at xxx.net (Kevin Holzer) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 06:21:54 -0800 Subject: Sinister: forwarding incident. In-Reply-To: <20031218104541.48056.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031218104541.48056.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3FE1B802.3000501@adelphia.net> Shit. That 'forwarding incident' was an accident. I didnt mean to forward the letter at all. Im sorry Paulo. I was going to reply....and then I sent my message to sinister, and accidentally didnt delete your message, screwing things up. I feel like a bull in a china shop now.... -kev +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From borokitty at xxx.com Fri Dec 19 19:04:19 2003 From: borokitty at xxx.com (Amy Skelton) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:04:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: First impressions of Bangladesh Message-ID: Dear Sinister, These were my thoughts after just over a month in Bangladesh. It started off with hree weeks of VSO induction training (I'm on their Youth for Development scheme - see the archives) and two weeks in my placement I'm pretty settled and definitely still glad to be here. So much has happened and although this letter is long I haven�t gone into even half of my experiences during October � it just gives you an idea. ATMOSPHERE After taking a few steps out of the airport, Dhaka city certainly leaves a lasting impression. If you thought London was a hustle and bustle kind of city then I can assure you Dhaka is at least ten times as busy. The combined noise of rickshaw bells, car horns (drivers here certainly aren�t afraid to use them), street vendors and call to prayer from the nearest mosque is a little bit crazy at first but it doesn�t take very long to get used to it. The first call to prayer of the day starts at 4.50 am and in Ramadan it�s about an hour earlier. Bright and early then and in the couple of abodes I have had since I got here the mosque (speakers and all) has always been very close. It used to wake me up before I was ready but I'm gradually attuning to it. I am now used to the noises of Dhaka so much so that it was very peculiar when I went away to Koitta (an hour or so outside the city) last weekend with all of its relative silence (although it was blissful) and lack of pollution. As for the heat and humidity I've been acclimatising by walking for at least an hour each day. Now that I feel okay with this I'm joining the local mixed hash club (the nearest equivalent to a hiking club in Dhaka). I'm going to start off by walking and build up on my running so I can eventually run full hashes (hopefully). RELIGION Now that we�re in the holy month of Ramadan, I've been invited to a few Ifta (breaking the fast) parties over the coming weeks by work colleagues. The singing coming from the mosque loudspeakers is extra stunning at the moment and the special decorations all around the city look marvellous. So, I am getting to participate in a fair few Muslim traditions at the moment. I was a bit disappointed that I couldn�t get to Old Dhaka for Durga Purja (Hindu festival) to see the statues and ceremonies. As the flight here got put back it ended up being just after I arrived when my Bangla was so poor I wouldn�t have been able to manage properly. I've even gone back to my roots and attended a presentation evening in a local Catholic school. I went along to watch the traditional dancing etc. when much to my surprise I ended up on Bangladeshi television as part of the audience. As for other religions such as Buddhism � they are not as prominent in Dhaka city but when you get out to the Chittagong Hill Tracts there�s more variation. I'm very keen to learn more about the indigenous people of Bangladesh that live in that area. Although I don�t want to get into the topic just yet (I�ll probably wait until I've been to that part of the country myself) LANGUAGE My Bangla is improving fairly quickly. Formal classes at language school were just during induction so I'm doing some self-learning at the moment with books/tapes etc. I intend to take some evening classes when I think I've exhausted the DIY effort. I've got a bit of a deal with a few members of staff at work for mutual language learning which works pretty well. If all else fails I resort to body language. This came in very handy when the cook at work and I tried to have a conversation with each other. Technical meetings at work are generally all in Bangla but I can understand about 10-30% of it and every now and again someone will get me up to speed with what is going on. It�s good practice for my listening skills � meetings here are a bit mental with people talking in raised voices over each other (very quickly). I can follow the meetings well enough to interject with my opinion/suggestions and that�s good enough for me. ABSORBING BANGLADESHI CULTURE Food and Clothing As one of my supervisors at work put it �I'm well on my way to becoming an honorary Bangladeshi�. I'm getting well practiced at eating using my right hand. Although I do still make a fair bit of a mess! I'm really enjoying the food here there are a lot of different types of fruit and veg here that you can�t get back in the UK. These along with meat (yes including pork - I've discovered where the special market for pig products is) fish, rice and dhal (contains lots of lentils and spices) is keeping me well sustained. Come to think of it my stomach now feels that something is missing if I don�t have at least one big portion of rice in a day. I'm also becoming quite partial to Sunggara, recipes vary but includes veg, nuts with lovely spices wrapped in deliciously fatty batter � I must get the recipe. However, for a girl who has a sweet tooth I've discovered something that is just too sweet for me. Misti is pretty much just pure sugar and I can�t say that I'm too fond of it. As I expected, I'm really getting into wearing Shalwar Kameez here. It consists of along tunic over baggy trousers with orna (scarf) to cover the chest. Having said that there are a few occasions when a desire for western clothes sets in. Exhibitions During the last couple of weeks I've started my quest to go to museums and art galleries for exhibitions to learn more about my new found home. The Liberation War Museum really brings home the tragedies that came about in the formation of the new independent republic of Bangladesh. It�s such a new country in the governance respect (30 years) that I have a lot of belief that major changes will happen to reduce the amount of corruption here. How long it will take to educate enough people to make it so is anyone�s guess. On a completely different note I attended a superb textile traditions of Bangladesh exhibition. It had everything from antique (several hundred year old) Samdani (rated as the most desirable material over the years) saris through to contemporary designs using various traditional methods along with mixtures of jute, cotton and silk. There are a lot of other things going on that I hope to get to. TOURISTY STUFF I'm not planning on taking much holiday for the next couple of months until I feel like I've really got to grips with my placement work. An opportunity too good to miss comes around next month � I'm going with work to Chittagong city so I plan to take a break afterwards to explore the hill tracts, Bandarban etc.! My Bangladesh tourist hit list includes many other places but particularly Sundarban (beautiful mangrove area in the south-west with rare monkeys and plants) Cox�s Bazaar region (south-east) and Sylhet area (north-west). I plan to go to India a few times as well. As for other parts of South Asia � it depends on money and time � I�ll see what I can manage. EVERYTHING IN THE GARDEN ISN�T ALWAYS ROSY � BUT BAD SPELLS DON�T LAST LONG Things that I hope I don�t get used to during the year include (as I feel I would lose some of my engineering/personal integrity if I did) are the problems with human rights here, pollution, along with the lack of health and safety practice. My mind has been fairly calm with regards to staring. As it�s not considered rude in Bangladeshi culture then you just have to tolerate it, after all it�s not threatening but just pure curiosity. As you would expect over the month there have been a few minor �mishaps� learning things the hard way. Hey, no-one said living in a developing world city was always going to be easy and I'm still in one piece! A few accommodation issues are now being sorted. I wasn�t v. happy in the guesthouse that my boss put me in after induction finished � access to kitchen and in/out building proved extremely problematic. I'm now going back to the joys of a shared flat in the not too distant future � hurrah! Where it will be yet again easy to welcome visitors�. The negative things all float into the background compared to all the positive things that have already happened and what I think is just round the corner. Expect another missive in a few weeks. In the meantime please let me know what you�re up to. As for WORK I'm enjoying it so far. I�ll let you know more about it next time! CONTACT DETAILS As an alternative to my email address(es) should you desire to send post then please use the following postal box address: - Amy Skelton c/o VSO Bangladesh GPO Box 406 Dhaka 1000 BANGLADESH Note that letters usually take about a week to get here and they generally get through okay. Parcels are subject to customs checking and hence in this country things can go into a (not so) mysterious void. However, the best way to get round this seems to be to get the post office to not only staple the package but to WAX SEAL it so that any tampering would be very obvious. Things are a lot less likely (if at all) to go missing with wax seals. Parcels can take anything from (the norm of) a week to a few months (unusual) to get through. Don�t be put off by this too much though as the majority of things do get through. I'm just telling you how it is � make your own mind up. As for a telephone I'm considering getting a new mobile here with the help of a Bangladeshi friend to make things easier/safer for me with the time difference etc. plus convenient for keeping in touch with my newly found friends in Bangladesh! PHOTOS The first of these will be online soon � I will let you know as soon as I get round to doing this! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From borokitty at xxx.com Fri Dec 19 19:07:46 2003 From: borokitty at xxx.com (Amy Skelton) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:07:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: more news from Bangladesh... Message-ID: Hey there Sinister, Yes, just what you�ve all been waiting for � my second big update. The idea is that I aim to write them at the start of a new month. My track record at that hasn�t been so good yet � but that�s because it�s all busy, busy here. SIX-DAY WEEKS As I finished off my last message not saying much about my work placement, I�ll start this one going into it in a bit more detail� As part of my work induction I went out to visit some of the slum areas of Dhaka, as this is where my main project will be concentrated. It was so eye opening to go and see the areas where so much work has yet to be done to make sure that slum dwellers can have clean water and sanitation against the odds. In case you were wondering, the deal is that my NGO motivates the slum community to participate in getting access to legal water supply and hygienic latrines. The community are keen for this progress and are willing to fully pay for the installation. This is achieved by my NGO outlaying the initial money on a micro-credit scheme and providing technical input. The community are involved in all of the planning, getting construction labour etc. and they manage the water points etc. themselves. To go with this the community participates in hygiene education. There is a lot more I can say about all of this but softly, softly� Another great part of this field trip was going to visit slum areas where my NGO has already worked on installations (now fully owned by the slum community � payback takes about two years). It meant that I got to see the positive effect of the project first-hand and speak to some people in the community. Thankfully I had another engineer from work to translate for me � my Bangla certainly isn�t fluent yet but it�s improving. Of course, not everything is plain sailing. I also visited sites where the water points etc. had to be permanently closed due to the authorities evicting those particular slums. Starting work during Ramadan meant that things got off to a very slow start. After the Eid holidays the pace and responsibility picked up tremendously and I�m really enjoying it! I�ve got a good mixture of doing documentation & information systems stuff along with chemical engineering work such as setting up a chlorination procedure for the NGO. The people at work are great which makes all the difference. You get to meet all sorts of additional people involved in water and sanitation. It�s an ongoing education for me meeting staff from donor and partner organisations etc. My favourite visitor of the last month has got to be the journalist who came to get the low-down on Bangladesh as part of the WASH (Water, Sanitation and Hygiene) campaign. It�s great when you meet someone with interesting viewpoints. His parents turned out to be the founders of the New Internationalist � which explained a lot. SHELF LIFE People here are still trying to marry me off! I now live with a young Bangladeshi couple (who are great and so is the flat) and I spent Eid with their families. You learn a lot about Bangladeshi families by going to these gatherings and I enjoyed them. The Grandmas of both houses have earmarked cousins that I �should meet� as they don�t want me to be left on the shelf (I like to think I�ve got a couple of years before my expiry date). Eid although enjoyable, made me a little homesick. Being at big family gatherings obviously made me think of my own loved ones � sniff! FOR THE LOVE OF SPORT� As I�m sure you�re aware the most loved sport in Bangladesh is cricket. Some of you will also be aware that I�m not terribly keen on it. Still, I thought it was absolutely necessary to take one of the afternoons off work to go to the last one-day international Bangladesh v England. It has to be said that it wasn�t the most exciting game in the world due to team tactics (and of course England slashed Bangladesh � he he) but the atmosphere was phenomenal! The energy of the Bangladeshi fans is something to aspire to, with non-stop bouncing, clapping, and singing etc. for hours on end. They�re a bit too quick with the old Mexican wave though and they�re SO HARSH to the Bangladesh team if things go horribly wrong. No wonder Bangladesh never do well on their own turf, they�re under so much pressure! I should also add that I�m not too keen on the crowd pyrotechnics. People with flares in crowded spaces� ggrr. (ASIDE TO ENGLISH FOOTIE FANS) Are those two pathetic Shef Utd fans still in prison? I went to the Boro v Shef Utd pre-season friendly and every time I looked at the part of the stand that is shut down (for the whole season) because of them idiots I growled. Being the girl that I am I did gush when the whole of the England cricket team turned up at the BAGHA (British pub in Dhaka) when I was there with some other volunteer mates. Just, there to you know � chill and watch the game. So yes, in case you were wondering, I did manage to keep up to speed with other important sports events over the last month or so. I supported England through the footy and Rugby all the way (when I wasn�t working), watching other matches as well when possible. I�ve even managed to catch Boro on the T.V. a few times. Although, it�s not why I�m here I�m finding that people and events at BAGHA are a good support system to keep me going. I certainly don�t live in there but it�s good for relaxing at times. TRAVEL AND VISA I�m having visa complications so I�m confined to Bangladesh for another two months. I�ve now got myself set-up so that I can travel around Asia more than just here and India � let�s hope I�ll be able to do some crossing borders soon. So much for catching my mate in Dubai before Christmas � boo� I do have a lot of travelling left to do in Bangladesh though. Visitors are welcome to come and see me so I can show off the countryside here. Please send me news! I check my emails most days� ��Amy _________________________________________________________________ Send a funky MSN Messenger Christmas card http://www.msn.co.uk/christmascard +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From borokitty at xxx.com Fri Dec 19 19:04:19 2003 From: borokitty at xxx.com (Amy Skelton) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:04:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: First impressions of Bangladesh Message-ID: Dear Sinister, These were my thoughts after just over a month in Bangladesh. It started off with hree weeks of VSO induction training (I'm on their Youth for Development scheme - see the archives) and two weeks in my placement I'm pretty settled and definitely still glad to be here. So much has happened and although this letter is long I haven�t gone into even half of my experiences during October � it just gives you an idea. ATMOSPHERE After taking a few steps out of the airport, Dhaka city certainly leaves a lasting impression. If you thought London was a hustle and bustle kind of city then I can assure you Dhaka is at least ten times as busy. The combined noise of rickshaw bells, car horns (drivers here certainly aren�t afraid to use them), street vendors and call to prayer from the nearest mosque is a little bit crazy at first but it doesn�t take very long to get used to it. The first call to prayer of the day starts at 4.50 am and in Ramadan it�s about an hour earlier. Bright and early then and in the couple of abodes I have had since I got here the mosque (speakers and all) has always been very close. It used to wake me up before I was ready but I'm gradually attuning to it. I am now used to the noises of Dhaka so much so that it was very peculiar when I went away to Koitta (an hour or so outside the city) last weekend with all of its relative silence (although it was blissful) and lack of pollution. As for the heat and humidity I've been acclimatising by walking for at least an hour each day. Now that I feel okay with this I'm joining the local mixed hash club (the nearest equivalent to a hiking club in Dhaka). I'm going to start off by walking and build up on my running so I can eventually run full hashes (hopefully). RELIGION Now that we�re in the holy month of Ramadan, I've been invited to a few Ifta (breaking the fast) parties over the coming weeks by work colleagues. The singing coming from the mosque loudspeakers is extra stunning at the moment and the special decorations all around the city look marvellous. So, I am getting to participate in a fair few Muslim traditions at the moment. I was a bit disappointed that I couldn�t get to Old Dhaka for Durga Purja (Hindu festival) to see the statues and ceremonies. As the flight here got put back it ended up being just after I arrived when my Bangla was so poor I wouldn�t have been able to manage properly. I've even gone back to my roots and attended a presentation evening in a local Catholic school. I went along to watch the traditional dancing etc. when much to my surprise I ended up on Bangladeshi television as part of the audience. As for other religions such as Buddhism � they are not as prominent in Dhaka city but when you get out to the Chittagong Hill Tracts there�s more variation. I'm very keen to learn more about the indigenous people of Bangladesh that live in that area. Although I don�t want to get into the topic just yet (I�ll probably wait until I've been to that part of the country myself) LANGUAGE My Bangla is improving fairly quickly. Formal classes at language school were just during induction so I'm doing some self-learning at the moment with books/tapes etc. I intend to take some evening classes when I think I've exhausted the DIY effort. I've got a bit of a deal with a few members of staff at work for mutual language learning which works pretty well. If all else fails I resort to body language. This came in very handy when the cook at work and I tried to have a conversation with each other. Technical meetings at work are generally all in Bangla but I can understand about 10-30% of it and every now and again someone will get me up to speed with what is going on. It�s good practice for my listening skills � meetings here are a bit mental with people talking in raised voices over each other (very quickly). I can follow the meetings well enough to interject with my opinion/suggestions and that�s good enough for me. ABSORBING BANGLADESHI CULTURE Food and Clothing As one of my supervisors at work put it �I'm well on my way to becoming an honorary Bangladeshi�. I'm getting well practiced at eating using my right hand. Although I do still make a fair bit of a mess! I'm really enjoying the food here there are a lot of different types of fruit and veg here that you can�t get back in the UK. These along with meat (yes including pork - I've discovered where the special market for pig products is) fish, rice and dhal (contains lots of lentils and spices) is keeping me well sustained. Come to think of it my stomach now feels that something is missing if I don�t have at least one big portion of rice in a day. I'm also becoming quite partial to Sunggara, recipes vary but includes veg, nuts with lovely spices wrapped in deliciously fatty batter � I must get the recipe. However, for a girl who has a sweet tooth I've discovered something that is just too sweet for me. Misti is pretty much just pure sugar and I can�t say that I'm too fond of it. As I expected, I'm really getting into wearing Shalwar Kameez here. It consists of along tunic over baggy trousers with orna (scarf) to cover the chest. Having said that there are a few occasions when a desire for western clothes sets in. Exhibitions During the last couple of weeks I've started my quest to go to museums and art galleries for exhibitions to learn more about my new found home. The Liberation War Museum really brings home the tragedies that came about in the formation of the new independent republic of Bangladesh. It�s such a new country in the governance respect (30 years) that I have a lot of belief that major changes will happen to reduce the amount of corruption here. How long it will take to educate enough people to make it so is anyone�s guess. On a completely different note I attended a superb textile traditions of Bangladesh exhibition. It had everything from antique (several hundred year old) Samdani (rated as the most desirable material over the years) saris through to contemporary designs using various traditional methods along with mixtures of jute, cotton and silk. There are a lot of other things going on that I hope to get to. TOURISTY STUFF I'm not planning on taking much holiday for the next couple of months until I feel like I've really got to grips with my placement work. An opportunity too good to miss comes around next month � I'm going with work to Chittagong city so I plan to take a break afterwards to explore the hill tracts, Bandarban etc.! My Bangladesh tourist hit list includes many other places but particularly Sundarban (beautiful mangrove area in the south-west with rare monkeys and plants) Cox�s Bazaar region (south-east) and Sylhet area (north-west). I plan to go to India a few times as well. As for other parts of South Asia � it depends on money and time � I�ll see what I can manage. EVERYTHING IN THE GARDEN ISN�T ALWAYS ROSY � BUT BAD SPELLS DON�T LAST LONG Things that I hope I don�t get used to during the year include (as I feel I would lose some of my engineering/personal integrity if I did) are the problems with human rights here, pollution, along with the lack of health and safety practice. My mind has been fairly calm with regards to staring. As it�s not considered rude in Bangladeshi culture then you just have to tolerate it, after all it�s not threatening but just pure curiosity. As you would expect over the month there have been a few minor �mishaps� learning things the hard way. Hey, no-one said living in a developing world city was always going to be easy and I'm still in one piece! A few accommodation issues are now being sorted. I wasn�t v. happy in the guesthouse that my boss put me in after induction finished � access to kitchen and in/out building proved extremely problematic. I'm now going back to the joys of a shared flat in the not too distant future � hurrah! Where it will be yet again easy to welcome visitors�. The negative things all float into the background compared to all the positive things that have already happened and what I think is just round the corner. Expect another missive in a few weeks. In the meantime please let me know what you�re up to. As for WORK I'm enjoying it so far. I�ll let you know more about it next time! CONTACT DETAILS As an alternative to my email address(es) should you desire to send post then please use the following postal box address: - Amy Skelton c/o VSO Bangladesh GPO Box 406 Dhaka 1000 BANGLADESH Note that letters usually take about a week to get here and they generally get through okay. Parcels are subject to customs checking and hence in this country things can go into a (not so) mysterious void. However, the best way to get round this seems to be to get the post office to not only staple the package but to WAX SEAL it so that any tampering would be very obvious. Things are a lot less likely (if at all) to go missing with wax seals. Parcels can take anything from (the norm of) a week to a few months (unusual) to get through. Don�t be put off by this too much though as the majority of things do get through. I'm just telling you how it is � make your own mind up. As for a telephone I'm considering getting a new mobile here with the help of a Bangladeshi friend to make things easier/safer for me with the time difference etc. plus convenient for keeping in touch with my newly found friends in Bangladesh! PHOTOS The first of these will be online soon � I will let you know as soon as I get round to doing this! Take care, Amy _________________________________________________________________ Send a funky Messenger Christmas card http://www.msn.co.uk/christmascard +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unloveable_ at xxx.com Fri Dec 19 23:02:54 2003 From: unloveable_ at xxx.com (angela _) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:02:54 -0600 Subject: Sinister: B&S christmass album? Message-ID: i was looking up B&S on ebay , and i found a christmass album listed. is this real? or just some fake thing? can it be bought anywhere besides ebay? if some one knows about this please let me know. thanks Angela _________________________________________________________________ Grab our best dial-up Internet access offer: 6 months @$9.95/month. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From psi_fla at xxx.com Fri Dec 19 23:14:04 2003 From: psi_fla at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Simon=20Fallaha?=) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:14:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: The Return Of The King Message-ID: <20031219231404.63667.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everyone For some reason I've gained the urge to post again, after a few months away. I'd be very pompous if I declared that the "King" in the title of this message was myself, even though I am returning to post after a while. No, the title doesn't refer to what I said in the last sentence. It just (predictably) refers to the film which I am going to see tomorrow. The countless critical praise surrounding it means that even those who know little about the Lord of the Rings will find it difficult to avoid. I have to admit it took time for me to fully appreciate the first film, but I'm glad I did. The Two Towers really got me into the whole saga, and now I am really looking forward to seeing this film. I've been browsing through some of my previous posts, as well as some of your own, and a couple of the things I said in a certain post a year and a half ago are of a little interest: "I'm not saying (Fold Your Hands Child) is a bad album, it just hasn't stuck in my memory. Seems a bit bland and dragged out." It's funny I should say that. After repeated listens to it I have suddenly grown to really like it, especially Woman's Realm, The Model and There's Too Much Love. As for Dear Catastrophe Waitress, from what I've listened to of it so far, it sounds really good (I especially like Piazza New York Catcher). In some ways I still miss Isobel, though. "It was inspirational to choose the title track of (The Boy With The Arab Strap) as the theme to Teachers, even though I never watch it." How times change. These days, Teachers is one of the few things I actually do watch. Furthermore, thanks to the wonders of DVD, I've now seen every episode. And even though the third series doesn't quite match up to the first two, it's still very good. I'll finish by naming a few terrific gigs I was at recently - Ocean Colour Scene's acoustic set in Derry, Paul Weller at the Waterfront in Belfast (you didn't have to be a fan to appreciate it), the Future Kings of Spain in Derry (are their any fans of theirs on the list) and Feeder, back at the Waterfront. Now there's a band I didn't get into until a little while ago (by listening to Comfort In Sound, which is allegedly their worst album). The highlight of this concert was probably Buck Rogers. Oh, and a big shout to Dirty Vicar and every other Sinisterine I met at the Belfast B & S gig two years ago (long time ago, I know, but I'm sure you know who you are). Take care, and Merry Xmas Psi ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james at xxx.uk Sun Dec 21 12:07:59 2003 From: james at xxx.uk (James Thorniley) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 12:07:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Don't let the bell end Sebastian Message-ID: <200312211207.59374.james@uncommonlygood.co.uk> Sinsietre, I went to see Belle and Sebastian in Sheffield not so long ago. They were entertaining, particularly when they got some of the locals to come on and sing "Don't you want me baby". They had a boy and a girl up, the latter looked terrified that the former was trying to "get it on" with her, and hid with Sarah Martin. The boy did seem to enjoy himself and happy monday danced as he belted out the lyrics, but the girl didn't know her words and couldn't sing anyway. The whole thing was giggles all round. Not nearly as fun as the ginormous train we saw on the way back of course. Or the reaction of a certain individual to that, "the longest train in the world". It went as far as you could see in both directions. It was night time and foggy but honestly, it was still a big train. To answer a question, there is a Christmas compilation album called "Its a Cool Cool Christmas", which has Belle and Sebastian on it among many others. Its on the Jeepster label. I was playing songs from this album in a bar when a sizeable man fell through the window and onto a member of this establishment. The man seemed slightly contemptuous of the fact that he had just destroyed a window and only by a miracle failed to injure himself or the person he fell onto. Shortly afterwards he came up to me and requested that I play Frosty the Snowman. "Ok," said I, "I'll play it after the next one since I've already got it cued up." "Yeah, sure," said he, "Only can you play it quick because I can't stay for long - I fell through a window you see." As Laura Llew would say: Have a merry Christmas y'all, James +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From borokitty at xxx.com Sat Dec 20 12:53:16 2003 From: borokitty at xxx.com (Amy Skelton) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:53:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: *READ THIS BEFORE YESTERDAY'S BANGLADESH POSTS* Message-ID: Hello again Sinister, For some reason my first post to the list as a returnee has gone into a black hole. I tried to send something similar this morning but that doesn't seem to have worked either. Anyway, let's hope for third time lucky. This was supposed to be my re-introduction post so that you weren't thrown head first into my Bangladesh updates. It was supposed to ease you in gently just like top quality vaseline. I'm now getting on the internet enough to keep up with Sinister goings on without my inbox overloading and let's face it I missed being here... Anyway, for those of you who are new/forgot I'm volunteering in Bangladesh for a year on VSO's Youth for Development scheme (see the archives). I wanted to share some of my thoughts and experiences from Bangladesh with you all - hope you don't mind! To those of you that I've been emailing independently you will already know the juice from the missives I've posted to sinister (and then some) so make like skippy the kangaroo by all means. Any sinisterites that want to email me off-list with any comments/questions/gossip or whatever are heartily encouraged. It's good to be back in the fold. I've really been enjoying your tales of gigs and your views on the new releases. My flatmate brought a copy of the new album back from England recently so I've only listened to it a few times when she's had it on in the living room (yes, Mark I now understand your email subjects). When someone gets a new toy you have to wait a while before you can ask nicely to borrow it. I'm one of these people that likes to retreat to my own space when I want to listen to something properly for the first time. She keeps dropping not so subtle hints that another copy might wing my way next week. That way I can form a decision properly - but I liked what I heard and I think it may be a grower. I'm not getting exposed to much new music here so when I get back to the UK I fear that I'm going to be stood in the middle of an indie disco wondering what the hell is going on. Half an hour of John Peel on BBC world service is good but not enough. I never get a connection decent enough to listen to live digital radio but I can listen to recorded ones so long as I don't do anything else on the computer. Some lovely UK people have been making me mix CDs to listen to - it cheers me up to get these in the post (thank you again to those Sinisterites that have done this). I went minimilistic when I flew out here, just bringing one CD - a compilation with the Flaming Lips, Violent Femmes - won in a competition. I'm gradually listening to more Bangladeshi music and should be making some mixtapes/CDs of tunes from this neck of the woods eventually. It's my first time away from home for Christmas and I'm holding it together well so far by getting in the festive spirit. Take care peeps... ...Amy _________________________________________________________________ Send a funky Messenger Christmas card http://www.msn.co.uk/christmascard +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idwiggerts at xxx.nl Sat Dec 20 16:29:44 2003 From: idwiggerts at xxx.nl (Imke Wiggerts) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:29:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: together alone Message-ID: Dear Sinistersweeties, Why is it always such a big deal with exboyfriends?? Why can't we just be friends without feelings that doesn't matter anyway because he has an other girlfriend now.. Okay, she is less cute than me en in fact really boring but he's happy so?! I JUST DON"T WANT TO FEEL ANYTHING FOR HIM!! He's such a loser... He doesn't like b&s and were, well, different. I feel like the catastrophe girlfriend only without a boyfriend... This week I got really drunk after my ex-boyfriend visit me. I dont feel anything for him anymore (really!) but it was so strange and a friend called me that there was this party and so I got on my bike, sick, and went there. There played there really bad music but there was a lot of beer and even more sigarettes... I really didn't thought that I were drunk but that was when I were sitting... And then I went dancing... Okay, I got drunk. I my eveningmeal didn''t survived the party.. I feel a bit like Olive right now (from Popeye, you know?) because I'm doing my hair with henna and it smells like spinach and it looks like it too... but it's really great for your hair and cheap!! After all, I have to look nice with the holidays... I don't have the christmas spirit yet and I dont think I get it this year... think I'm just going to listen a lot to belle & sebastian and feel lonely and happy at the same time. Merry christmas to you all!! imke *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_, +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Sun Dec 21 22:18:48 2003 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:18:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: playing catchup Message-ID: hello Sinister! I sent you a mail last week but I think it disappeared into the ether, so you never got to read me talking about how I had been in London and met some subscribers to this list, or that I was going to be attending a concert featuring the fab Estel, WARLORDS OF PEZ, and The Chalets (with some Cork band) yesterday. As it happened, this concert turned out to be completely G*R*A*T*E, and not just because it coincided with a meetup of the DUBLIN SINISTER POSSE (all three of us, only two of whom live in Dublin). What made it actually toptastic was the music - Estel really throwing down a credible claim for the crown of Dublin's best band, The Chalets causing me to renounce my flirtations with Chalets apostasy by further rockifying their sound and unveiling a load of new songs that made this gig not just like every other ones of theirs I've been to, and the band from Cork (Stanley Super 800) being an amiable bunch of dueling-banjos meets hard rock merchants. The best thing was probably the WARLORDS OF PEZ. These invaders from another dimension performed a rock opera about how Baby John Candy had been left home alone for Christmas and ended up being kidnapped and cruelly used by Phallotron and the Evil Transformers. There was something for all the family in this heartwarming tale. I also met someone from Australia who thought I was a character from Viz comic. Moving along I must apologise to all the people waiting for Christmas presents from me. They will be in the post before Christmas, I promise. later! DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Mon Dec 22 16:07:47 2003 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:07:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: there's too much love (too little BOWLING) Message-ID: Hello sinister, What a year it has been, since the last year. For me it has been, anyway. Does anybody here ever keep stock of what's happened in their years? Looking at my balance, there have certainly been a lot of transactions, some good, some bad, some really good, some really bad, some rotten, some angelic, etc. I wish I were better at adding up though, it's hard to tell whether this year has been a good year or not. It probably was, but I'm not feeling so great right now. I may have wasted far too many credits, and not earning enough. And there's certainly not much left in reserve. I've tried hiring economists to keep my balances on the up, which may have worked to an extent, but I wasn't earning hardly enough to pay the fees. But thankfully I don't work on financial years, and this year is almost over. *****27TH DEC******BOWLING******27TH DEC***** BEFORE the year is over though. on the 27th DEC, 2003, there is going to be INTERNATIONAL SINISTER BOWLING DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm happy to see already several bowling events being developed... so kids, start contacting each other innit. --------- Montreal/Ottawa, Canada (Em Ash) http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/latest/msg00043.html Orlando/Suburban Central Florida, USA (Anna Higgins) http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/latest/msg00054.html San Francisco, USA (Levette Fuller) http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/latest/msg00052.html Holland (Imke Wiggerts) http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/latest/msg00048.html Glasgow, UK (I heard this may be happening too - someone should TAKE CONTROL) Coventry, UK (Joanne Hill fancies showing some sinisters how it's done!) http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/latest/msg00046.html London, UK (yay london!) http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/latest/msg00042.html And people in other parts of the world should start TAKING CONTROL innit. So for LONDON, remember 2pm, 27th Dec Rowan's Bowling Place (not the official name) Finsbury Park London (click on that link above for more details, innit, wahey, already loads of people confirming their attendance! If you think you might be coming send me an email, innit, or sommink) Right, Back to being miserable for a while.. Ken ********************************************************************** This email is confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If this email was not intended for you please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator at uclh.org. This footnote confirms that the email and attachments contained no viruses when they left UCLH. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From teacandlelight at xxx.uk Wed Dec 24 17:10:39 2003 From: teacandlelight at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Aurora=20Borealis?=) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:10:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: i'll be with you in a second.. Message-ID: <20031224171039.67407.qmail@web86105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> well, i've definitely passed my self-imposed deadline for an acceptable 'contemplation' time prior to putting finger to keyboard for my first 'spontaneous' and what was obviously intended to be 'memorable' first post to the sinister world... ah well, a poor waste of a highly sought after christmas eve slot as well..jeez so will settle for a simple hello to everyone and wish you all a snowy and hopefully happy christmas... top tips for christmas day survival in no particular order: 1) insist that you are making and testing the mulled wine at 9 in the morning because it takes 'time' for it to infuse..all the herbs and stuff you know, it needs to be monitored.. 2) accept that with time, and the passing of the years, in case these are different for anyone, stocking fillers will shift from the edible chocolate variety to the electronic tooth cleaning variety.. be nice to the reindeers seeya :) ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kristerbladh at xxx.com Sat Dec 27 17:49:46 2003 From: kristerbladh at xxx.com (Krister Bladh) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 18:49:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Desperation Made a Fool of Me Message-ID: Dear Sinisters, This is my first post and actually I’m a bit ashamed of that as the Belle’s have been my favourite group for quite a while no, I think I’ll skip the this-is-my-first-post-and-I’m-oh-so-excited-stuff and go straight to the point. It feels like I’ve waited for a lifetime to see the Band live, and now I’ve found they’re coming Sweden next year. As a matter of fact they played in my city only last year, but I was unable to se them then due to several unfavourable factors. There are now two shows scheduled and I booked one of them, but I never went to buy the ticket ‘cause I misjudged how much of an indie-country Sweden is. A few days later both shows were sold out I was in a state of utter distress! I just couldn’t picture myself alive after having missed the possibly last chance I would ever get to see Stuart and the others. (Let’s face it; they’ve been around for a while already.) But just then I discovered a newly scheduled gig in Copenhagen, Denmark (which is only like 15 ! minutes away, by train). I don’t know by whose saving grace, but my life had just been spared! So I sunk back in my chair, overcome with relief, thinking about how it would be at the glorious moment when Stevie’s guitar enters in Beautiful Maybe you would like to know a little something about me, except that I’m from Sweden? I think I’m one of the younger Sinisters. Some of you ought to be almost middle-aged, if I figure correctly – not that there’s anything bad in that hey, even Stuart & co are growing elderly. I wonder how many Sinisters there are in Sweden though. I only know of one except me. I mean, is there any way to find out? It’s especially interesting in case any of them are going to same gig as me And I almost forgot, what’s happened to the “official” newsletter? I haven’t received anything for months! Well that’s all for now. Love Chris __________________________________________________________ http://www.hotbrev.com/ - Nätets farligaste e-postadresser +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From josefk at xxx.nz Sun Dec 28 09:18:11 2003 From: josefk at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 22:18:11 +1300 Subject: Sinister: Attention Melbourne Listees! Message-ID: <003601c3cd23$9c6f38b0$1062b4ca@lawrence815c72> Hello, this is one of those selfish posts where I just write about something I want! It's Lawrence (and his lovely wife Vanessa) from New Zealand. On a whim, we've just decided to come to Melbourne for New Year, arriving on Tuesday, flying out early Saturday morning. Are any Sinister people around? And does anyone have any suggestions as to if there's anything good in the way of twee-indie, be it clubs or gigs? Any help appreciated ... Lawrence +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seanghowell at xxx.com Sun Dec 28 20:26:51 2003 From: seanghowell at xxx.com (Sean Howell) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 15:26:51 -0500 Subject: Sinister: a london (and glasgow) story Message-ID: hello lovelies, it's been ages, I know, but I am again compelled to post, so here you go! I once again got to see Belle and Sebastian this past October in Washington, DC, and while it's a bit late for reporting back, I had a wonderful time, and the performance was lovely. Quite a good mixture of songs both old and new, and the band seemed to be into it. Lisa also managed to get me backstage with her afterwards, which was lovely of her, and ended up being a great time, despite the fact that I ended up with one of the 5 worst hangovers of my entire life, and a very long taxi ride, as I had missed the last metro train by hours. The only further thing I will say about that is how encouraging it is to meet the members of a band you have loved for years and find out that they are actually nice people. The most exciting thing in my life recently has been planning for an upcoming trip to Glasgow and London....in fact this trip is almost nearly upon me, as I leave tomorrow at 8pm and arrive in Glasgow at 9:30am on Tuesday. I don't really have too many concrete plans for the next few weeks, just to head around town, try to meet people, and see where that takes me. Anyone who would like to meet up for coffee or a drink would be fantastic! Any general advice, as far as places to check out (or anything else for that matter) would be wonderful as well. I'll be flying from Glasgow to London on the 6th, which should also be loads of fun! Not a bad way to ring in the new year eh? Come to think of it, I probably should have written this post earlier, so there would be more time for people to respond....but well, that's procrastination for you! Ta, Sean Graham _________________________________________________________________ Working moms: Find helpful tips here on managing kids, home, work � and yourself. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/workingmom.armx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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