From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Sat Feb 1 00:44:19 2003 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 00:44:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Frolicks Message-ID: Hello Sinister I got up deliberately early this morning and drove about 20 miles away from York into the dales to go sledging. I haven�t had that much fun for quite a while. Indeed, this white carpet which seems to have engulfed the country over the last couple of days has put a permanent smile on my face; there�s definitely something about the crunch under foot, numb ears and the feel of a snowball walloping you in the back of the head that just puts a grin on my face. Some random slanted field in the middle of nowhere was our playground this morning. When we arrived there was about 6 inches of absolutely untouched fine alpine snow. We soon changed that. As we parked the car, somebody described the show as �pure�, but I didn�t dare refer to B&S. We frolicked until we froze, and my shoes are still wet now. As the snow continues to fall, plans are afoot to do the same tomorrow. I thought I was Going To Be Ill as I wrote my last post, but the cold that was threatening to strike me down never quite came to fruition (though I suspect my child-like enthusiasm for the current weather won�t do me much good). So on Wednesday I went down to London to film my Fifteen-to-One show. All you really need to know is that I will be On The Telly on 20th February, at 3:45pm on C4. If you�ve ever wanted to know what I look like, I�m number five. And that badge on my jumper? Yes, you�re right. The Book Group, which I hyped so recklessly in my last post, failed to impress last Friday. I�m sorry for the bum tip. Trust me, the first series, and even tonight�s episode was better than last week�s. I shall persevere. Love, Asm.x ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Overloaded with spam? With MSN 8, you can filter it out http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=32&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittypower6 at xxx.com Sat Feb 1 08:11:04 2003 From: kittypower6 at xxx.com (Alyson Snowball) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 02:11:04 -0600 Subject: Sinister: i'm back, and i've brought a quiz with me. Message-ID: hello sinisters, after weeks of not having a proper computer, i am back online with a reliable machine. i know i'm happy-- aren't you? i have also just made my first quizilla quiz. of course it's b&s-related. i even made little piccies to go with the results, so you can post them in your blogs. here is the address of the quiz. . . http://quizilla.com/users/keroleen/quizzes/Which%20Belle%20%26%20Sebastian%20Song%20Character%20are%20You%3F please keep in mind that it's my first quiz, ever, and i stayed up way past my bedtime to make it. i hope you'll all give it a good rating, even though it is a bit crap. goodnight all. =) love, alyson snowball _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark.hester at xxx.com Sat Feb 1 12:32:10 2003 From: mark.hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 12:32:10 0 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Nominate Sam! Message-ID: <20030201123214.2833.h011.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> Hi everyone, First up, belated thanks to Maddie and Anakin Sky for their comments about the bands I mentioned in my last post. In the event I didn’t go to The Spitz to see Of Montreal last night on account of the work do, of which more later. Many of you will be familiar with the term ‘troll’ to refer to someone who goes onto message boards and stirs things up among the regular contributors, usually by posting hostile and abusive messages. I don’t think that it’s a particularly appropriate monicker; conjuring up the burly unattractive characters that turn up in the works of Tolkien and Rowling, or who lurk about under bridges salivating at the thought of a caprine bill of fare. But a message board I post to regularly has recently been plagued by a troll, whom I misjudged totally to begin with, not least because she invented a slang term for bottom which made me LOL. So I started engaging in what began as harmless banter, or verbal sparring if you will. In so doing, I encouraged the troll, who became more vitriolic and abusive and upset quite a few people. Now I’m feeling really guilty that I did not see the person for what she was and that I hadn’t tried to be witty in my responses (most of the time I ended up just being puerile, anyway). I fear that I may have annoyed quite a few people by not ignoring the troll and that there may be a few people on the board who strongly dislike me now as a result. Although I’ve posted a couple of times on really innocuous uncontroversial topics since the incident, I’m a lot less sure of my ground and I am very wary of engaging people in conversation over boards now. So anyway, I don’t often reveal very much of what I’m thinking to you guys, playing my cards quite close to my chest and being quite shallow perhaps, but it’s really nice to be able to share something like that with the good folk of sinister, where I feel a lot more sure of myself and where everyone is far more friendly. My girlfriend has recently become very keen on ice skating. Now you may think that ice skating is one of those things that *everyone* has done, like riding a bike or going on holiday, but I have to admit that I have never actually skated. I remember when I was on a sixth form Geography field trip my teacher referred to one of my peers as being "as sure footed as a one-legged mountain goat" as he watched the poor bloke’s attempts to cross a Welsh mountain stream. Even though I wasn’t the target that time the remark could equally have been directed at me. Things have if anything got worse in the ensuing years. From what Emma was saying she appears to be on a one-woman crusade to keep the Oxford ice-rink open, as it’s up the creek financially. If it does close, I hope they don’t demolish the building, as the architecture is rather striking, looking rather like a ship with its masts and cables resembling rigging. Yesterday we had our grand opening party at work. A little late, seeing as the building opened at the beginning of the month, but never mind. The office closed for work purposes at 3.30 and I suppose the party went on for a couple of hours. The food was absolutely fantastic, though most people in my department were shrinking violets and didn’t actually venture forth from our place on the top floor to sample any. One of the managers was just offering me some of his home-made rhubarb wine when our department made its collective decision to slope off to the pub next door. As there were no clean glasses and I was hardly going to swig from the bottle I declined – perhaps I had a lucky escape. Top marks on the Unsubtlety Front goes to the colleague who walked Straight Out Of The Front Door And On To The Pub whilst the top brass were still making their speeches. After the pub and another one we wound up at the Wheatsheaf (the music venue upstairs was packed to fire-regulation bursting point) to see the ok-ish, but appallingly named Pokey and the surprisingly good Transmission. I think the Trans word led to a discussion of the Zodiac indie night Transformation, which apparently was already called that in 1994. I wonder which club night in the country has been going the longest under the same name? Answers on the back of a flyer, please. Wow, Sam Walton: TV Star! It’s hard to believe that William G. Stalwart also thought up The Price Is Right. This is true versatility he bestrides the gameshow world like a Collossus, with the cerebral at his left foot and the banal at his right. Do you think people are either Countdown or Fifteen to One people, like you get dog people and cat people? Rosamund Iorns, ex- of this parish and employee of the big uni based publishing house that supplies the people for Dictionary Corner, once told me that she’d "sooner have pins put in her eyes than go on Countdown", but maybe she’d prefer to answer questions. Or nominate. Archel wrote: "Which means that it will NOT rain, snow or spew bizarre jizz from the sea." etc, which made me wonder whether there’ll be anything left of the West pier by the time of the picnic. There used to be a band called Westpier – quite good as I recall. And no I’m not getting confused with Westlife. So Radiohead think they have *swagger*, do they? Bye for now, Mark. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com Sat Feb 1 13:23:44 2003 From: a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com (a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 05:23:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: PenPal-O-Mania Message-ID: <20030201132345.9248.h000.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> Yo Sinistah! (Notice new, fresh hip-hop-stylee!) Yesterday my best friend/ bandmate/ fanzinemate/ dad's girlfriend's daughter made me some really cool stickers for me! She's been doing her working practise (which you in Sweden do when you're 14) at a mediaoffice and they had loads of cool programs on their computers, like the one where she made the stickers in. There are stickers saying: "Astrid - The Twee One", "Amanda - The Punk One" and "Punk and Twee Mix Well Together" and loads of other cool bandstickers. Yay! Stickers are so nice. Now, the subject of my actual post: I hope I don't sound too nerdy, or that it's too obvious that I've been reading too much Stephen Chbosky, but I really would like someone to write letters to. Anywhere in the world. Just because it's fun to write letters. I love sending stuff with mail, mixtapes and stuff like that. Uh-Huh. So if anyone, er, wants to be my new penpal send me an e-mail with your address and I'll send you a letter. Cool. Me and Amanda are listening to her new Sex Pistols-CD. She had it before, but lost the actual Cd so she bought a new copy of it today, some strange sort of compilation with like everything they recorded. We read a very funny story about Sid Vicious digging ABBA. Finally, here are some good Swedish bands (except the slightly over-rated The Hives and TSOOL) that you all should listen to: The Sounds, Mando Diao, Melody club and Caesar's Palace. YEAH. If you live in The States, look out especially for The Sounds. Me and Amanda read their wicked marketingplan for hitting the states. Soon in a hype-magazine near you! Well, sorry for posting so much but the thrill of being back is just overwhelming! Take care all of you, Love, Stars and Punk (at the moment, but in secret: Twee) Astrid ("the twee one"... damn. I thought I was fooling everyone that I was erally rock-chic..!) --------------------------------------------------- Who would you rather be - Ted Danson or Kevin Costner? Fab: Who the fuck is Ted Dancer? Ted Danson. Fab: Oh, Danson. Nick: I think Ted Danson wears a toupee. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stevenrhodes at xxx.com Sat Feb 1 14:40:33 2003 From: stevenrhodes at xxx.com (Steven Rhodes) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:40:33 +1000 Subject: Sinister: NO SUBJECT NESECCARY Message-ID: <001501c2c9ff$e0812a40$5f518a90@StevenRhodes> Well in regards to the bob dylan CD email Did you actually like the cd Or where you just writing the email foir the sake of it. Ps whe are drunk in brisbane , Australia But we still mean it Quote Dylan: ' fearing not I'd become my enemy in the instance that I preach My existance leaD by confusion boats: mutiny from stern to bow; Ah but I was so much older then I'm younger then that now.' Quote Cohen: 'Fied commander cohen was a most important spy Parrachuting acid into diplomatic cocktaIL PArties Urging fiedel castro to abandon field and castles, Leave it all and like a man come back to nothing special' It doesnt sound aS GOOD just writeen but belive me it is freaking good Fuck you You bitches & kings and queeens. I love you all Close with harmonica as in a prison or something I am so soryy for this email Did i mentioned we'd been drinkinbg? We being myselkf & my frined tristan peach, brisbamne, queensland. My god I'm sorry Hoply christ We mean no harm. thew only salvaion I can acieve is through hot brisbane girls throwing themselves at me. Thats steven from BrisBANE., north side, arana hills Area code 4054 Give it to me I play gutair I write and i paint I lead and i'll prance I'm goung to paddingtom to sing and to dance We arew pretry drunk but this is poetry Keep well Dont ban me from the list. Fromn Steven (i'm sorry) >From steven +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angelas1980 at xxx.com Sat Feb 1 16:05:28 2003 From: angelas1980 at xxx.com (angela smith) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 10:05:28 -0600 Subject: Sinister: PenPal-O-Mania Message-ID: I for one think astrid had a brilliant idea for pen pals. If I was as organized as laura llew or gayjay maybe I would even start a pen pal chain or something. Anyone? angela _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mess_up_my_hair at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 01:31:23 2003 From: mess_up_my_hair at xxx.com (Alex Goffey) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 11:31:23 +1000 Subject: Sinister: ink polaroid sunday Message-ID: Hello Sinister... The ink polaroid weekend was a great idea, certainly gave me an excuse to haul out my little polaroid camera and actually go out. The fruits of my efforts can be seen/read here: http://www.geocities.com/veruca_salt_97/inkpolaroid.html And it all fit together perfectly when we encountered Belle & Sebastian being played as we walked back to catch our train. Since we had time to spare we both ran around, dancing and singing along to 'The Boy With The Arab Strap'. I love rainy days and I love being a uni student on holidays on rainy days. The perfect excuse to sleep in and read and make mix tapes. If I didn't have to work for three and a half bloody hours this afternoon, all would be perfect. xox alex ===================================== I took your advice and fixed my radio But I can't find anything that sounds good anymore http://www.geocities.com/veruca_salt_97/ http://darlingalex.diaryland.com/ _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayeckard at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 05:19:00 2003 From: jayeckard at xxx.com (Jay Eckard) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 05:19:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: V-Day Massacre Message-ID: Folks: I've sent out all the appropriate emails for the Valentine Day's Massacre emails to people. Let me know of any troubles, especially if you haven't already gotten an email from me. Alison Tarr: I need your email again; I must have gotten it wrong. Other than that: I claim the first born child of any hetero couple to form, first born pet of any... Oh. Never mind. Oddly, there were no gay couples this go round. Up the Pink! GayJay -- "The Posby falls into a Trance In which it does a little Dance." Edward Gorey _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_sad_witch at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 12:02:26 2003 From: the_sad_witch at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Gillian=20Kirby?=) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:02:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: confetti Message-ID: <20030203120226.51163.qmail@web41309.mail.yahoo.com> last night at rehearsal (The Gondoliers, in case you're wondering) the stage was full of confetti. Of course, it was for a chinese new year's party, but it felt like they knew I was coming. While we were meant to be practising ballroom dancing and running to different corners of the stage in a random way that will only make sense in costume during show week, me and fellow ballroom bitch Yael started playing cat's cradle with string, tying each other up with coloured ribbon, and tying plastic flowers (with classy fake plastic dew) in our hair. It's this new haircut that's making me behave like a mischievious child. A strange incident at the hairdressers' last week led to me scissoring off my locks into a little fluffy bob with a fringe...as I haven't had a fringe since the age of two it was rather disconcerting and I felt like a lesbian PE teacher. But as one of my friends told me I'd morphed into a member of Ladytron, maybe i'm more of an indie-girl cliche. Well, it was the fringe or my kneesocks anyway (I've only just begun to be able to wear the things again after five years of the terrors of polyester blue knee-highs for my school uniform...) I'm off to eat sarnies now. If christophe from York is reading-where the sufferin' suckertash is my email? -gillian x ===== _________________________ "Rock and Roll! Let's have a pear!" "So he's like,"To be or not to be", and I'm like "Get a life, Hamlet!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 14:16:28 2003 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunny set) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:16:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Happy Ink Polaroid Day/ Some very sinister blogs Message-ID: An Ink Polaroid: I thought I would show you this picture even though it was taken on thursday and not over the weekend as it was one of those silly nothingness moments which seemed special because for a brief second everything and everyone around me was happy: Me and belle have just reached the top of this small slightly pathetic excuse for a hill. The hill is in the centre of the housing estate that we live on and if you squint very hard you can just see our house. There in the bottom left corner of the picture. The reason Belle�s tail is all out of focus because it is wagging so much. It is wagging because she had just spotted another dog over the other side of the hill chasing a stick. Stick chasing is a concept that belle hasn�t quite grasped. You�ll notice that she her head slightly on one side which is a sure sign that she is puzzled. The other dog, is standing by its stick, also with a puzzled look on its face and also with its tail all out of focus. Other dogs haven�t quite grasped the concept of Belle but think she is a bit strange but amusing nonetheless. The woman with the dog is smiling and laughing with surprise having just seen belle appear from nowhere kangarooing over the top of the hill. And because it seems lighter than it did at the same time the week before and because the clouds are looking just like candy floss, I�m smiling too. Blogs and Websites: Dimitra (zoziepop at hotmail.com) has been collecting a list names of Belle and Sebastian loving people with blogs and websites. She has some and, for now, they can be found here: http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk/today Eventually this list might be turned into a web-ring as Caitlin Pigtails has kindly volunteered to help us do just that. And Robin Stout pointed out: "Now, all the kids have got pocketbooks, well I guess it's the way it looks, their cosmopolitan diaries..." So perhaps this web ring could be called "Pocketbook angels" or "Cosmopolitan Diaries"� If you have any ideas, suggestions or a website that you would like to be included email Dimitra or myself (off list of course). Hope you are all enjoying a lovely Ink Polaroid Day, Take Care Rachel ************* With the current crop of disposable jaw lines and manufactured inanity, it seems that we need our heroes now more than ever before. http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk ***************** _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=186&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 12:16:25 2003 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:16:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Fee Fi Fo Fum, look out baby here I come Message-ID: <20030203121625.52646.qmail@web14205.mail.yahoo.com> ********** Here, look at this one. See my boots? They were new that day. I’d never had a pair of fiendish-pointy, knee-high, stiletto boots before and I was all excited, so I had to wear them straight away. What I didn’t realise was that between leaving my flat and returning from the pub, it was going to snow quite that much. That’s the reason I’m hanging on to Ally for dear life. Very pathetic, but I didn’t think I was going to make it from the car to the front step without assistance. If you look closely, you can see Rich in the driver’s seat. I think he’s smirking. ********** Dear Sinister, It’s been a while. I’ve been in Glasgow a year. Can you believe it? I’m not sure I can. My grandparents are still asking how long I think I’ll stay here for before returning to the fond embrace of the South East. They haven’t got the message yet. I have a proper job, one that I really like. Years of unhappy employment have taught me this is a rare thing, so I’m making the most of it. My office has a big window across one side of it, looking north across the hills. The sun is shining on the snowy fields and it’s beautiful, like a Christmas card. Really. We’ve had to turn the lights off because there was such a dazzle coming from outside. I run into Stacey in the refectory now and again. People are friendly. Somebody gave me a penguin this morning (a chocolate one). These Good Things and many more conspire to make life just peachy at the moment. ********** Here’s another. Oh dear, our faces are a bit pink, aren’t they? Yes, we had been drinking. That’s Lara on the left. She’s Irish. In the middle you might recognise Kirsten from Wisconsin, and I'm the one on the left. Three furrin girls in the West Highlands for Hogmanay. The reason we’re applauding ourselves is that we’ve just done a fairly successful impression of the Temptations by spinning round unison. It took a bit of practice, but luckily the photographer didn’t capture anyone falling over or bumping into things. That time we got it right. ********** It’s the Winchester Club again this Friday. Can you come? Oh, go on, do! Sons & Daughters were meant to be playing, but had to pull out at the last minute, but they say they’ll play for us soon, so we’re not cross. Besides, we’re having a DJ Spectacular instead! Five DJs with an hour each to make you move your dancing feet. Check out our website for more info. http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club See you soon (I hope) Juicy Lucy ps. I want the Chalets to play at the Winchester Club! ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ ************************************************** The Winchester Club http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 15:49:36 2003 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (ianwatsonuk at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:49:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: my ink polaroid Message-ID: <759374.1044287376232.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Great. I couldn't post until someone did, as I'm not on my computer. Here's my ink polaroid. We're sitting in my friend Angus' front room in his flat on Tulse Hill, our new home for the next three months while our house is being put back together again. There's a program about designer vaginas on TV that I'm doing my best to hide from. I hate surgery on telly and it's only a matter of time, apparently. Angus is miles away in Enfield at his girlfriend's. He'll be there for quite some time. Months probably. I'm in the armchair, Adrienne is on the sofa. And Daz, Angus' flatmate, is sitting on the stairs, talking about his life and "my now ex", almost in a comic monologue. Adrienne has a moment of deja vu, which prompts Daz to tell us about the dream he had when he was young about falling out of a tree. He must have been eight or so. Four days later, he fell out of a tree. We're all laughing. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 16:34:17 2003 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 16:34:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ink polaroid jenny Message-ID: This is a ink polaroid that I'm particularly fond of that I take out once a while. ====================== It is the inside of a Chinese restaurant in London, some very nice looking food were in the middle of the table, not as good looking as the girl who was in the process of writing her folks. She needed a bit of help with her chinese so she had a boy to help her, but then to call him helpful would have been flattering. They eventually had to enlist the help from an expert to complete the letter - that's the waiter with a mostache you can see in the photo there. ====================== Anyway that was taken a little short of two years back now and the camerawork wasn't very good because that was the level of his skillz back then, he didn't get much exposure in there. A much better one was taken just yesterday.. ====================== The camera was positioned rather good on this one, just behind a wonky wooden table overlooking a street in Lan Kwai Fong going down and then back up a slope. Along the street are lots of people, whose trendinesses appear inversely proportional to their proximity to the camera. A couple of pints of becks can be seen on the table both slightly spilt due to the table's wonkiness. The back of the polaroid read 'Hong Kong Sinister Meetup Jan 2003'. ====================== In which a great time was had by all attended (I hope!), with discussions going from Madchester to the Lamma Massiv to Belle and Sebastian to graffitis in french. And hopefully now an extra meetup will take place this Thursday that promises a 50% increase of turn-out figure! Hong Kong sinisters beware! Kung Hei Fat Choi everyone Ken _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Mon Feb 3 14:48:14 2003 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:48:14 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: ink polaroids Message-ID: ***** This one's a bit blurry because of the high winds. Matt and I are in it, and our friends B and E. Matt and I are clutching each other and laughing because B apparently has his head inserted between E's breasts, though in fact he's just using the shelter of her coat to light his cigarette. She is wearing some fantastic mittens. B has a hat with ears. We're all on the top of a hill on the very muddy, claggy footpath to Lewes; in the background are the Downs and a few tiny farms dotted around. I have mud all over my shoes and up my legs, and my hair is blowing across my face in the wind. You can see a few birds outlined against the sky. ***** This is in the Lewes Arms. We all have pints of Harveys bitter in front of us, and we are all smiling and a bit red in the face. Behind us on the walls of the pub are old photos of Lewes Bonfire Night celebrations; mostly they're of stiff-backed moustached men in viking costumes. There is some ancient horse tack on the wall as well, and part of it seems to be made of Burberry tartan which is odd. ***** This one is later that night. It's my front room, with me and Matt in it. We are sitting on the floor eating our dinner off the coffee table, and we both have rapt expressions on our faces. On our plates is home-made spinach and potato curry. I am wearing my pyjamas. The red curtains are pulled closed, and we are lit by the reading lamp next to the rocking chair. You can see our winter cherry tree on the dining table behind us; the two orange fruits are a bit shrivelled now but still bright. Love Archel +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather_boa at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 14:49:03 2003 From: feather_boa at xxx.com (Feather Boa) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:49:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ink polaroid and stuff Message-ID: hello all, this is an ink polaroid which was taken on friday night. in it you can see myself and ms gina t (also of this parish). we're standing on a very small stage with a pair of makeshift decks in front of us. we're about to put on a cd which comes in a yellow cover because a very drunk boy has just asked us to play his favourite song. we're wondering if we should because we only just played 'the boy with the arab strap' and two b&s songs in ten minutes might be too many for most people. it's the end of the night and a lot of people have already gone home, so we're going to decide to play 'there's too much love' after all. and now to complete my 15 minutes... the mighty ladybird ladbird featuring several sinisterines (including myself) has got through to the semi-finals of battle of the bands at york uni. we're all very excited, if slightly nervous, especially because our drummer missed the last practice because he was interviewing the delgados in leeds and he's only played one of the songs we're doing once. but i'm slightly hoping that we don't get through because i'm not sure if we have enough songs to get to the final. although i would like to resurrect our cover of llpj, even though i can never get the high notes that monica queen can. mark hester wrote about ice skating. i haven't done that in ages, but at my oh-so-posh prep school we had ice skating lessons at queen's ice in queensway (it's called something else now like leisure box, that sounds a bit dirty to me), i got my grade two. but i was never very good at it. some of the girls could do pirouettes on ice (!) and everything. now i have to go and have a shower because i've been writing an essay since five o'clock this morning, and i feel all cruddy and skanky. dalai lama (check) cliff richard (check) pip pip, FB X **************************************************************** http://featherboa.blogspot.com - bandwagonesque http://groups.yahoo.com/group/yorksini - big up to the york sinister massive. innit _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 17:58:37 2003 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 17:58:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: inky stinky Message-ID: Friday, 31 Jan. 2003 Oh dear. That would be me, there, in the center of the dance floor, shaking my ass to any one of the fantastic pop hits John played Friday night at national pop league; I think it's Emma's House by the Field Mice. My mouth is slightly open cause I've been caught singing along, an awful habit. That boy next to me, that's Matt. Mr lokar. Or whatever he's known as around these parts. Gubke? He's obliging me here; that steady gaze is not his usual dance face. Were the song, say, Spanish Bombs, he'd be in a blurred frenzy, incapable of being captured on still film. The girl behind me? I'm not sure exactly. But she's there every week, and always well dressed. I think her dainty red locks are quintessentially Scottish, don't you? And she's always so fashionable. Look at that dress, with its tiny white polka dots. I've simply shown up wearing all black, with the collar of my green button-down shirt poking through. Oh, yes. I suppose that would be Stuart over there. He's a funny dancer, isn't he? He usually only graces us with his moves for a few select obscure old indie hits, but tonight he's got his dancing shoes on, apparently. His partner in crime is John from Camera Obscura, who is without his characteristic old man's patterned polyester shirt this evening, opting for a tight white tee instead. It glows purple in the funny lights of the Woodside Social Club. Can you see the beads of sweat on our forehead? It's hot. * I nearly forgot about ink polaroid day, which would have been a shame because it's been ages since I've posted here, and I thought it'd be a fine excuse to do so. Thank heavens for Ms. Lucy's lovely polaroids. Mmm hmm. Would it be awful to steal her idea and post more than one? * Saturday, 1 Feb. 2003 Can you believe how many people they've managed to squeeze into one tiny functions room above the old fasioned Manchester pub? It's hard to tell from this distance, but yes, those walls are painted murals of old-fashioned hunting scenes. That's me sitting on the red pleather bench against the wall, leaning on the table with the emerald green foil covering. The empty pint glasses in front of me are not mine, I assure you, for I am too exhausted from our 5-hour bus journey to drink. Perhaps that is why I'm leaning against Richard's shoulder. He's the adorable boy with the blong Beck hair whose face is turned towards the stage to watch his favorite band ever, the Mountain Goats. Can you see the sparkle in his blue eyes? Doesn't he look happy? Sitting next to him is Stoo! Of the Sinister Congregation, Sheffield branch. And next to him is his lovely girlfriend Katie. We ran into them downstairs, completely unexpected. Stoo was my very first sinister friend, and I hadn't seen him since Nov. 2001, when he abducted me from a Lucksmiths gig in Leeds for a few days respite in Sheffield. Ew. See that guy partially blocking the bottom left side of the shot? Well, you can kind of make out his yellow pigtailed hair. He was also wearing pale blue jeans with big holes ripped in them; pity you can't see that. The thing about this boy was that he didn't seem to have a whispering voice. NO. Thus ruining the otherwise perfect gig for all. Nah. But enough to annoy me to no end. John, the lead singer, is the one sitting in front of that cascade of foil behind the tiny stage. He's American, and talks about fucking posers and the Tampa Bay Bucks and other things that make the English giggle. He's losing his voice. But can still sing an amazing love ballad called International Small Arms Traffic Dealer, or something similar. Oh yeah. The woman sitting in front of me with the blonde hair and the pale blue top with weird tassles at the sleeves - she recognized me and Richard the next night, at another gig. She's from Florida but has an English accent when she wants. She seems to be dating the most square guy in the room, wearing khakies and guzzling down pints as if he's been thirsty for a month. Actually, he's only had three beers since New Years. They make him snore. * I just got off the phone with an old lady from Motherwell. It appears I'm taking the train down there tomorrow to interview her for an article I've been working on in a panicked frenzy all afternoon. She goes bloodletting every week. Should be fun. It's been ages since I've felt like this - slight nausea, shaking, hands freezing. All the signs that I'm working on a big story. The fear, the excitement, the adrenaline. I'd forgotten. Is this what keeps Peter Arnett going? John Simpson? Mmmm. Did we all know the band are going into the studios next month to record an album to be released in the fall? That they're going to Spain in May? That Camera Obscura are playing here on Valentine's Day and I'm so excited I'm going to burst? That Stuart's girlfriend is not as scary as she seems, even going so far as to smile at me the other day? That I thought of Honey, and all of you, while stuck on the last bus out of town last night, with a boy dozing at my side, and a bus driver whistling 'Everything I do, I do it for you'? It's true. -stacey _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sullen_ozma at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 18:44:55 2003 From: sullen_ozma at xxx.com (Allison .) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 13:44:55 -0500 Subject: Sinister: [*an Ink SnapShot*] Message-ID: See. That girl standing on her bed. She's modeling her new-ish Red & Black -David Bowie- [--dreamy sigh] long-sleeved shirt next to her -David Bowie- poster. It was given to her as a present by a boy who is quite lovely. She's holding a pretty glittery pink tin covered in stickers sent to her with love from Johan Hugo all the way from South Africa. She remembers the day she got it, because it was a horrible day. Of course, once munching on some slightly stale gummi-bears, she decided maybe the day wasn't so bad. -{blink}- That's the street outside her window. The tip of the streetcar is on the right side of the photo. It's snowy out still, but more icy as it's been warmer the past few days. -{blink}- That's her making a face & wrinkling her nose by her laptop [named Steve2] drinking her green tea out of a NightMareBeforeChristmas travel mug. She's procrastinating an essay and nursing a sore throat/cough at the same time. xox--allison "we all want to be bob dylan." _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dafyd2001 at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 19:32:20 2003 From: dafyd2001 at xxx.com (dafyd strange) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:32:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Ink Polaroids Message-ID: <20030203193220.14392.qmail@web12806.mail.yahoo.com> this picture is a little hazy and out of focus as i was slightly drunk and very hot while taking it. It shows a boy sitting with a group of great people who all meet up every now and then and talk about smut and things,well the boy doesnt as he is quite shy and quiet. Its the height of the summer in England but still the boy is wearing a jumper a fashion mistake of gigantic proportions. The boy is talking to 2 friends when he spots a cute girl sitting near by. The girl makes her way over to talk to the boy and this is where the photo fades.. The next photo seems a bit more clear and shows a hive of activity amongst the people on the hill,it must be cold or they have pints waiting for them in a near by public house. The girl and boy are carefuly picking up litter and are laughing and smiling as the do it,they seem to enjoy the litter picking alot,either that or they are enjoying each others company. The final polariod is from a dark room full of people dancing and drinking,we see the boy standing near a wall looking even more hot than before,he must have been dancing very hard and i wish he would take that jmper off. We just make out a girl near him and they are saying goodbye i think,judging from his sad body language. The boy steals a quick kiss just as i press the button to take the next shot it might have been missed or saved forever on my little polariod camera....... luckily it was saved. DAf xx __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From borokitty at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 18:54:26 2003 From: borokitty at xxx.com (Amy Skelton) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 18:54:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: My ink polaroid Message-ID: Hey there Sinisterites, As my little old camera went to heaven a few weeks ago and I haven�t got around to getting a new one yet so this �ink polaroid� will be text only - use your imagination! It tells you a little of what I get up to during the weekend.... VSO TODAY The major part of my weekend was going to the VSO Today - Northern region conference in Manchester. Many of you won�t know what VSO is - it�s a charity that is involved in international development - it aims to reduce poverty, improving quality of life through using skilled volunteers. Anyway, the conference was all about where the charity is going in the future, a time for us supporters and volunteers to have our say in forums etc. There were lots of really informative workshops on during the day including ones on asylum seekers, HIV/Aids, using the media to promote the work we do etc...... So what is my involvement with the charity? Well, I�m going on one of their youth schemes after I graduate from uni. in the summer. Whilst their main scheme wants people with at least two years experience in their profession, the beauty of the youth scheme is that it gives young people a chance to get experience of international development work before they go in to their profession. In my case that will be environmental engineering. I have to sort out my own project for next year and I�m at the very early stages of sorting this out so I don�t know where I�m going or exactly what my project is yet but is going to be in the sanitation /environmental engineering/education sort of field. Many hours are going to be spent in my local development education centre using the resources there to sort myself out. CHINESE NEW YEAR IN CHINATOWN... After the conference a few of us went into Manchester�s Chinatown for a very lovely meal in �The New Emperor�. The food was lovely. Warning - the starters are large - they could almost constitute a main course in themselves... The decorations were lovely in the whole area - it was heaving with people and the atmosphere was really cool - this was only quite early in the evening as all of us needed to get trains do our own thing..... ....I went to visit an old friend from my �Year in Industry� - I haven�t seen much of him since he came back from his year in Japan..... DANCING TO ECLECTIC TYPES OF MUSIC.... Well, it was Offbeat�s 6th Birthday night on Friday and I was there bopping away to indiepoppunk music and eating cake - mmmm. For the first time ever I actually left early - not because it was bad - no way! I got a message on my mobile saying that an old housemate had made an impromptu visit back to Sheffield. By this point Offbeat had long sold out so I had to go.... I ended up at Urban Gorilla, which is a breakbeats night - two extremes or what?! Yes, I did get some dancing action here too although not as much as at Offbeat. Whilst I do like some breakbeat music it is in a bit of a sparse manner. SPORTS SHENANIGANS... Sadly the only exercise I got this weekend involved walking around streets and dancing as opposed to more hardcore winter walking, kayaking, my usual yoga routine etc. This is because I fell down the stairs a couple of weeks ago and bruised my coccyx - I would like to point out that I was not drunk it also means I�m not getting any either (sorry for lowering the tone). Thanks to Brian for pointing out my Freudian slip when spelling aforementioned body part in an email to him. It all goes back to those biology lessons so long ago when you spell it incorrectly once your brain sometimes slips back into it! Don�t worry - here comes the signing off bit.... Well anyway, I�m enjoying finding out more about what you all get up to over weekends. I have to admit it isn�t often I get chance to read all the posts (which is why I hardly ever post myself). I�m using them as short revision breaks when I�m doing some of my work on the computer! Take care all.... ...Amy (There are several Amy�s in Sheffield so I�ve been asked to clarify that I have quite large curly fair hair) P.S. Plug/List Abuse: - If you are interested in finding more about VSO other than what I have said you are all net wise so go to: - http://www.vso.org.uk ....any nurses, social workers, mechanics, engineers, teachers, the list goes on ...... out there - you are needed!!!!!! P.P.S. If anyone has any tips on breaking up the message without using rich text (thus not being allowed by Honey's computer then please let me know! _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From municipalpool at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 20:46:19 2003 From: municipalpool at xxx.com (patrick doyle) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 20:46:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ink polar bear Message-ID: My Ink Polaroid You can almost smell the coldness in the air. I�m alone in the station shelter apart from one other person. He�s wearing a hat, which fails to cover either one of his ears. He�s staring out the window as a car is pulling into the station car park, the headlights cut through the darkness like a knife through water, it�s 5.56am. The windows of the station shelter are frosted over, showing them to be in much need of a wash, snow can be seen outside, blowing furiously in the somewhat violent and unmerciful wind. The more sensible people among us have chosen to stay in their warm cars till the train arrives, It�s on its way. Patrick x http://www.flantastic.tk _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 21:59:21 2003 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Caitlin Pigtails) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 21:59:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Still more ink polaroids Message-ID: <20030203215921.A25623@candle.btinternet.com> You can't see much in this one; it's a bit dark. There are bright coloured lights and mist in the background; it's some sort of dancefloor. Two girls are in the picture; one looks awkward and the other is dancing quite well. She has no idea what she's dancing to, but the first girl has just pulled her onto the dancefloor so she knows the girl must think it's very special music for being happy to. ----------- A black and white cat is standing on a window-ledge. Outside it's snowing big fat snowflakes down onto wet ground, so the snow isn't settling. You get the feeling that people want the snow to settle, so the world will be all glowing white. The cat is prowling. He has a hunty look in his eyes, he is looking out of the window wanting to pounce on each and every falling flake. ----------- This photo looks like it might be the same room. A girl is there, looking worried. She is looking around the room and everything in it, nervously. She looks as if she is trying to hide herself. She has visitors coming, and is looking round for things she needs to move so that her visitors don't find out anything about her. ------------ love xx caitlin -- http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/ "When life gives us lemons, we just sit there and sulk about it, in the corner of the room, in a fetal position." - Matthew Henderson, on the Sinister mailing list. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 23:46:43 2003 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:46:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: ink negatives In-Reply-To: <200203270621.GAA13686@missprint.org> Message-ID: <20030203234643.26827.qmail@web41104.mail.yahoo.com> There is me. I'm lying on a tan corduroy sofa, in a little white summer dress with a picture of an exotic sunset with a yacht across the chest. it has capped sleeves and a thin white pvc belt. My mum is huge and fat and I am an only child for another few weeks. Its a balmy summer day in August 1981, and I have a box wrapped in Snoopy paper on my lap. I want the snoopy paper. I'm not too fussed about the gift inside. I trace my eyes over the snoopy paper, and look at the cartoons. I like snoopy - hes a dog and I like dogs. Its for Scott Thomas. He's my best friend, although only in the mornings. In the afternoons, he and Claire Clarkin push me over in the street, and make star formations in Scotts drive way to stop me getting into his garden to play. I told his mum and he never did it again. If you look closely, you can see that right at this moment, I don't want to go to the party. I want to keep the snoopy paper. I don't care if there is parcel the parcel (what I call pass the parcel) and musical chairs. I want to stay here. ****************************************************** Its 1995. A week into the new spring term at school. I'm in my trainers and jacket, and waiting for my dad. I'm sitting on the steps into the sunken living room. I'm looking to the window, and dreading the day ahead at school. The smart girls pick on me. I have no friends. If I ask a question, I'm stupid. If I answer a question, I'm teachers pet. There are tears forming in my eyes. Nobody knows why. But I'm about to let go, and start sobbing, tell my parents everything and change the path of my entire life. ****************************************************** Its 2003. I'm sitting on the train. I'm looking out the window, but you just see me pressing my forehead against the reflection on the dark glass. The snow out on the embankment is looking beautiful in the darkness, the orange gauze of streetlamps and the white glow of the moonlight. I'm trying hard to concerntrate, and see if I can see the shape of the windows from the light cast from the carriage onto the white ground outside. I'm trying to see if I can see the shape of the pillars of metal casting a shadow. But look closely, and my breathing is deep, and parted in deep intakes of a heavy heart. My eyes look glazed and shiny, and I'm putting all my effort into not drawing attention to myself from the other passengers. I want to call someone but I don't know who. I want to say something, but I don't know what. On the outside I'm still wearing the same smile, the same mask, but on the inside I feel I'm half the woman I was six months ago. Its today. Its this evening. Tomorrow is doomsday. I'm praying to whoever there might be, that history will repeat itself in my favour again, and this is not the time when all my heartfelt belief in karma and fairness and justice turn their back on me when I need the courage to rise inside me to face up to other things. Other people. ****************************************************** Bully (n)(pl. bullies): a person who intimidates or frightens weaker people. - The Oxford English Dictionary. love, idles x ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From charismarisa at xxx.com Tue Feb 4 01:48:27 2003 From: charismarisa at xxx.com (marisa stroud) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 20:48:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: *snap* Message-ID: last tuesday, on my way to campus at night... *** It's dark and cold outside. There's a girl standing in the middle of the snow-covered sidewalk, stopped to look at her hand. There's a mist of condensed breath hanging in the air in front of her face. She looks as though she was in a hurry before she stopped. She looks like the type that's always late. As you approach her, wondering what could be wrong with her hand, you notice that the air is shimmering, as if you lived in a giant sparkly snowglobe. The trees, the cars, the street and the sidewalk are covered in twinkling drifts of snow. You begin to understand. You're right beside her now, and she is smiling as she examines her hand. Her gloves are black and you can finally see the small handful of tiny perfect snowflakes, their points shining brilliantly against the dark field. She can't believe that something so beautiful and amazing happens by chance, and you don't have to be famous or clever or gorgeous to deserve it. All you have to do is look. *** Happy Ink Polariod Monday _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Tue Feb 4 02:50:47 2003 From: rfadden at xxx.com (rrrrobyn) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:50:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: if life is an index i'm looking you up. Message-ID: <20030204025047.152.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> oh, sinister. you. it's nice that people like to take photos, ink or otherwise. they are good things. i worry that i don't take enough. so i took two rolls last wkend during my birfday party. haven't gotten the prints back, but here's one of the ink ones: I'm in my kitchen and the house is full of people, most of whom are wearing track suits, it being a track-suit party. I've got a black and turquoise Reebok warm-up suit on and am drunkly (yet eloquently, yes, eloquently) pontificating about whether to become a jock or not because, damn, this track suit is so comfortable and makes the best swish-swish noises. The ink photo right after this one shows me picking up my friend Neil, who plays rugby and is dressed as Rocky (Rocky 1, of course) and looks the part. I've got him balanced sideways on my lower back. His neck towel has fallen off. It's my only impressive party trick, this picking up of people. But anyone can do it. Another ink photo, to partially explain my sinister quietness: That's me in mid-December, sitting on my bed, cross-legged, leaning in a little towards my laptop to better read its screen in what's become the dim light of my bedroom. Is it something like 3 a.m.? There's that 3 a.m. hum of streetlights outside and the 3 a.m. hum of laptop inside; the loudest hums in the world. Yes, it's something like that time. I'm typing and deleting, cutting and pasting a paper together. I haven't bothered to change my pants in a few days (though I've managed to change my underwear, which I count as "keeping it together, yo"), logic being that pants don't get dirty enough through the act of reading and writing alone. Spinner.com plays jazz through my tinny laptop speakers. I got tired of the indie rock stations an hour ago. I believe I'm writing about cinema and the cyborg eye, quoting the sticky-noted bits from the 20 or so books and articles surrounding me on the bed and then attempting cleverness with my own words. I have no idea how well I'm going about it, but I'm typing fast. I'm so very "back in school"; when someone says articulate, I say how high. woodwork, coming out of. sinister, singing praises of. sighing, long and contemplative. x, robyn. ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Montreal, QC __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heartxdan at xxx.com Tue Feb 4 01:46:18 2003 From: heartxdan at xxx.com (elizabeth trawick) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 17:46:18 -0800 Subject: Sinister: i miss the innocence i've known (mmm ink polaroid!) Message-ID: This picture was taken Saturday night in a diner I used to go to quite a bit. I'm the girl in the black coat with the hood. If you were sitting next to me you could see the bits of white poking through the holes in the sweater (as it's not very thick!). I'm sipping coffee and putting butter and jam on my toast. Joshua, the boy sitting next to me, is trying very hard to keep his coffee in his mouth. One hand is holding a Fruity Clove (as he was calling them) and the other coffee. Hah, he just spat some back into his cup. He was laughing very hard at something absurd I'd just said. I dropped my toast and started laughing too. He started complaining about the zipper to his pants constantly coming down. I smiled at that and took a bite of my toast. - Hi Sinister. I thought I'd write a small ink polaroid as well. I love these, they're so simple but so nice. To be honest, I'd forgotten about them until this afternoon when my e-mail account was attacked by posts. I don't mind at all though, because ink polaroids are very enjoyable, as are posts. I'm eating cookies right now. That's very bad considering I've yet to have dinner. heh heh, I'm a horrible person :) I'm finding myself at a loss for words right now. I think it's due to my constant posting to various other places (livejournal, diaryland) and writing a very long letter. A teacher asked me today if I was still planning on going to Ireland. It was nice for him to ask so I told him it was actually Scotland I was thinking about. He smiled and asked how I was going to go about doing that. I went on about this and that and even the other (!) to him and was late to my next class. How is Glasgow, anyway? I hear it's a fun place to be. If there was anywhere in the world I would rather be than here (or even in my bed!) it would be Glasgow. But oh, what can I do. - The little girl on the sit and spin is Hayley, she's my niece. My sister's daughter. A lot of people say she looks like me. In my opinion she's much too cute to look a thing like me. Her hair is much prettier and blonder as well. The girl with the short blond hair is my sister, Kelli. She's teaching Hayley to say "yes ma'am" because that's what Southerners say to female adults. My mother is over on the couch trying to get Hayley's attention- for what? who knows. I think my mother just likes the attention. I'm across from the couch at the cd player putting on The Smiths. My brother-in-law Justin has just come in from the next room and he's standing in the doorway. He screams something about Morrissey being a sissy. I laugh and say "But oh, that's the fun of The Smiths!" - That's all for tonight, I suppose. 'Catch you on the flipside' as my friend Joshua would say. xoxo, Elizabeth _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyebrown at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 10:12:07 2003 From: lucyebrown at xxx.com (Lucy Brown) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:12:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I like it, not a lot, but I like it Message-ID: <002b01c2cb6c$e311db60$05bc28d5@q5v5f5> Hello Sinister! -Introduction- We've been snowed in today, so no school - yay! In English class we get told to balance our paragraphs in terms of length, thus I had to add this wee bit at the beginning to make it look better. I tried to post last week, but I think my email must have ended up in a Sinsinati newspaper's inbox instead. N.B. I don't usually post because I hate saying "I". There, I can start now. -Big fat stinking clichés- Last week at school we had a seminar on the theme of change. The very utterence of the word "seminar" had us all wretching in a kind of pre-emptive boredom-induced hysteria. Or something. Anyway, we had to sit there and listen to this man (he looked suspiciously like Paul Daniels - I was surprised that my friends didn't see the resemblance until I realised I had been saying "Look! Look! It's Phil Collins!" Never been good with names.) tell us how fate is a load of crap and that we should get off our arses and make things happen. We were made to write letters to ourselves. Apparently said letters will be posted to us in a few months' time to make us realise that we haven't "Become more optimistic!" and don't "Have a more positive outlook!" and therefore are worthless individuals. I was just upset because I wasn't the only person to have been wonderfully witty by writing "SWALK" on the front of my envelope. -Rock me, Amadeus- I've recently discovered the joy of mp3s and minidiscs and stuff. I'm listening to a wider range of music now, which is always a good thing - I can download stuff I wouldn't be seen dead buying ("Good sir, fetch me one "Steps: the Best Of" please!"*). However, I do not endorse illegal downloading, honest. So, watch out, kids.** -No war, please- I was in Dumfries on Saturday, and managed to walk through the middle of an anti-war protest without realising at first. I stood with them for a while, but there was only about fifteen people, and no-one was holding up their banners or saying anything. Actually, maybe they were just queuing for chips and a bit pissed off that people kept coming and offering support. -Content- I had a dream about Stuart M (honestly, I'm not making it up to make this seem appropriate) last week. He was on a regional news programme on channel 3 (if anyone gets "Border" tv, you know the kind of thing they show ("Your Wheelie Bin and You")) telling people to check their bonfires for hedgehogs before they set them alight. He's so sweet. -Mini ink polaroid- I'm sitting at the computer wearing a pink bobble hat and blue boots. I've made some cocoa. I'm writing a post when my friend phones to arrange a sledging time. We choose lunchtime. I get the atlas to see if Sinsinati is really a place, and if so how it's spelt. I'm still undecided. I try not to dwell on it. -Leslie Ash- That's what happens when you eat too many Jaffa Cakes and the orange goo gets stuck in yer teeth! -And finally- The sun's just come out. All the snow from our roof is falling onto the pot plants of the wifie that lives below us. I think I'll go and clear it later.*** I'm off to dig out my sledge. Keep warm (or cool; whichever is appropriate to your hemisphere) and be sweet, Lucy xxx *Disclaimer - it is a good five years since I was, in any way, involved with everyone's favourite Redcoats. **I heard someone say "watch out, kids" last week. It was quite creepy, actually. ***The old woman's actually kinda crazy, and almost killed some of our cats "by accident" ("Woopsee, didn't mean to leave that pot of boiling oil teetering above the cat flap like that!") on a few occasions. ======================================== "I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it ." - Groucho Marx. ======================================== +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From helen at xxx.com Tue Feb 4 07:03:02 2003 From: helen at xxx.com (Helen McLean) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 7:03:02 Subject: Sinister: silver friends Message-ID: <200302032302.XAA07956@missprint.org> 2nd February, late Sunday night.. Look, thats me on the left of the couch, with two boys sitting on the right. We're all watching a movie, you can't quite see what it is, but its in black and white so the glow from the telly is a little different than usual. Both of them are tapping their feet and hands to the soundtrack only slightly, but they don't realise it. I do though, and my attention is distracted and I smile to myself as I glance in their direction. They are new friends, and I am thinking to myself that I am glad I met them here, in this new place. But I also think of old far away friends at the same time. And one friend in particular. We haven't talked or written or emailed in a week and I suddenly realise that this is the longest time for the three and a half years we've known each other that we haven't been in contact. 'If he was here, he would be tapping his feet too' I think. ******* Now just a short note.. including some San Fran list abuse... Yes I'm back. In a new place, now. Moving on your own to a new city in which you know no-one is an odd experience. But it has been a good one so far. Its kind of liberating actually, and I have surprised myself most of all with my own confidence. Meeting people is easy, especially when you have a novel accent. Speaking of meeting people.....calling all San Francisco listees.... do you want to meet up mid-february when I will be in your delightful city?? Mail me off list if you do.. and I promise I will bring you presents. Honest. But let me tell you that you may have alot to live up to as in my limited experience of meeting sinister people I have never met a sinister I didn't like :) Awww, you guys... Helen xx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From helen at xxx.com Tue Feb 4 07:00:40 2003 From: helen at xxx.com (Helen McLean) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 7:00:40 Subject: Sinister: silver friends Message-ID: <200302032300.XAA07636@missprint.org> 2nd February, late Sunday night.. Look, thats me on the left of the couch, with two boys sitting on the right. We're all watching a movie, you can't quite see what it is, but its in black and white so the glow from the telly is a little different than usual. Both of them are tapping their feet and hands to the soundtrack only slightly, but they don't realise it. I do though, and my attention is distracted and I smile to myself as I glance in their direction. They are new friends, and I am thinking to myself that I am glad I met them here, in this new place. But I also think of old far away friends at the same time. And one friend in particular. We haven't talked or written or emailed in a week and I suddenly realise that this is the longest time for the three and a half years we've known each other that we haven't been in contact. 'If he was here, he would be tapping his feet too' I think. ******* Now just a short note.. including some San Fran list abuse... Yes I'm back. In a new place, now. Moving on your own to a new city in which you know no-one is an odd experience. But it has been a good one so far. Its kind of liberating actually, and I have surprised myself most of all with my own confidence. Meeting people is easy, especially when you have a novel accent. Speaking of meeting people.....calling all San Francisco listees.... do you want to meet up mid-february when I will be in your delightful city?? Mail me off list if you do.. and I promise I will bring you presents. Honest. But let me tell you that you may have alot to live up to as in my limited experience of meeting sinister people I have never met a sinister I didn't like :) Awww, you guys... Helen xx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Mon Feb 3 21:21:46 2003 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?robster?=) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 21:21:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Rinky-Dink Polaroid Message-ID: <20030203212146.31186.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> Hello! Seems a while since I've been here but I recently bought some more paper for the inky camera so here goes... *CLICK* *FLASH!* *bzzzzzt* ... In this one you can see a boy and a girl in an amusement arcade that's part of a nicely dilapidated seaside pier. The girl is in her early twenties, the boy is... older. They are engaged in a game of air hockey on a table that has subsided slightly on the fag-burned carpet that was presumably laid in the 70s. The boy is about to lose by a significant margin. He will later convince himself this was due to the sticky paddle despite the fact he still got his arse kicked after swapping sides. Despite the thrashing, he is very happy she's there by the sea with him. ... Robster __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Mon Feb 3 21:01:24 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 21:01:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: pick the moment, point and shoot Message-ID: < < s h u t t e r o p e n s > > The photograph was taken indoors, in the foyer of a busy cinema. See those staircases? they're escalators. You can tell because the people on the leftmost one are just standing there, inside long coats, looking up towards the first floor and not trying to walk anywhere. The rightmost one is almost empty, but that's because it's heading down. I bet you don't believe me, because the only couple who are on it are heading up just like the rest. Well, I can see you've never considered breaking any of the rules of escalator safety. These two are breaking them all. They're running up the down escalator without even thinking of keeping away from the edges. The boy on the left even has his shoelaces undone. But it is the girl who has caught her toes on the top step, which will soon become second from top, then third, then fourth. She looks worried, but he hasn't noticed yet. I hope he notices, and he manages to catch her in time. < < s h u t t e r c l o s e s > > _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seanghowell at xxx.com Tue Feb 4 04:59:23 2003 From: seanghowell at xxx.com (Sean Howell) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:59:23 -0500 Subject: Sinister: how could I resist? Message-ID: Dearest Sinister, Despite the fact that it's only ink polaroid day for another 10 minutes here, and that the keyboard I'm typing on has a malfunctioning space bar, I still am going to take part in Ink Polaroid Day! So without further ado, here I go. **It's cold, probably 33 degrees, the sky is the dark shade of grey that it typically is in Maryland during the month of Janurary, and it's raining on me. A raindrop spattered Kamel Red Light hangs from my mouth, and my glasses are in dire need of a good drying off. The look on my face says one thing, and one thing only..."Sean, you silly boy, how could you leave the umbrella next to the front door??" Oh well, fortunately Tydings Hall is only a few yards away.** **The sky is uncharacteristically blue for this time of year, especially given the weather we've had here as of late. I sit in my well worn old car, with Kristina in the passanger seat. I'm wearing brown corduroys, the white short-sleeved collared shirt I had procured the day earlier, and pedals of the car are being worked by a pair of red and white trainers. Speeding past the windows are rolling hills, and quaint farms in the distance. We are approaching the mountains, and the look of laughter is on our faces as we are discussing the fabled Hello Kitty vibrator. All seems well in the world, needless to say.** **It's a brisk day, and I've happily found myself in the passanger seat, which is incedentally on the side I am accustomed to driving on, of a very handsome and noteworthy automobile. Yes indeed, Max. We are driving to get some coffee, and I'm enjoying lovely stories of Glasgow. In the lower corner of the picture one can see me going for the non-existant brake pedal with my right foot, as I'm quite used to having to do so quite frequently when sitting on this side of a car. You can also see the look of amusement on my face that is a result of having tried to press a pedal that is not there. However if you didn't look closely, you might not ever know just what I found so funny.** Phew, I did it, and with 3 whole minutes to spare. I am ever the procrastinator! Well, I should wrap this up quickly so it's still being sent on the right day. Before I go I just want to give a *HUGE* public thank you to the people who sent me gifts for the sinister xmas gift exchange...they all were wonderful and truly lit up my holidays. In fact, I'm using one of my Bowling coasters right this very instant! Well, I'm just barely making it, so off this goes! Sleep well fair Sinister. Love and Procrastination, Sean P.S. - Ulla, Ritva, and Dimitra, I will send you emails this week. :) _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Tue Feb 4 07:15:16 2003 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 14:15:16 +0700 Subject: Sinister: smile! Message-ID: ******* the boy on the right looks down at his letters and can't believe that he has seven vowels. seven frickin' vowels! he still manages to get 15 points though. the boy on the left adds 15 to the boy on the right's score before glancing down at his letters. he has a nice mix of vowels and consonants. unfortunately the board is a little cramped up, so he slides a few tiles into place for a disappointing single figure score. he takes a swig of beer and thinks that life is okay. sure, a lot of his friends have moved away recently, but this is a great opportunity to meet new people. and to get to know other people better, like the boy on the right. the girl in the background purgingly flicks through her CD collection. in with the new, out with the old. the old green armchair on the far left sits in the corner knowingly. see that bit of paper on top of it? it is a printout of that night's bowling expedition. ******* ******* jeremy ever so stylishly bowls the ball down towards the ten defenceless soldiers. the sound of crashing pins echoes in my ears as jeremy's ball smashes into the soldiers, knocking them in all directions. but one stubborn soldier refuses to go the way of its brothers and sisters. it is rocking back and forth, trying to succeed where its siblings so horribly failed. time slows down as we wait to see the fate of the lone soldier. our eyes transfixed, our mouths agape. the gravity of the situation becomes too much for the soldier, and with pride and dignity it slowly topples over. Jeremy triumphantly returns to the bench as we applaud his successful strike. he may have won the battle this time, but the war is far from over. ******* terry --- here's what i think: http://naivetysucceeds.blogspot.com caitlin and terry's sinister recipe tree archives: http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/sinifood/ _____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Tue Feb 4 10:28:57 2003 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:28:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: i!n!k! p!o!l!a!r!o!i!d! Message-ID: <20030204102857.35741.qmail@web10411.mail.yahoo.com> --------------------- A bijou coffee table in Walthamstow, Sunday. It has been cleared of the usual debris, though a speck of mashed potato still lurks viscously on the edge nearest the camera. The table itself groans under the weight of the day's purchases at the local cash and carry, all stacked up with the precision of prototype skyscrapers at an architects-on-LSD convention. There's 10 tins of mackerel, looming over the militaristic rows of deodorant and shaving cream. The soft lines of half a dozen stacked cans of tuna are offset by the neo-futurist form of 4 and a half litres of scarily blue Fairy liquid. A massive monolith of fabric conditioner dominates the image, and in its shadow scampering bags of stuffed pasta cavort innocently with shiny new razor blades. A receipt lies on top of the impassive and unliftable roll of black binbags, already fraying and unravelling. On a sofa in the background there's the blurred shape of a girl, looking slightly embarrassed at her ex-boyfriend's concept of bargain hunting. --------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atremp at xxx.be Tue Feb 4 10:16:38 2003 From: atremp at xxx.be (Annie Tremp) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 11:16:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ink polaroids Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030204111638.007a18c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> better late than never... *** this one's a bit dark because it is nine in the evening, and the flash didn't work. on the left you can see a girl, wrapped up in her winter coat, trudging through the snow. she's staying away from the boys on the right, because they've been throwing snowballs at each other and she doesn't want to get caught in the middle, she's feeling cold enough as it is. one of the boys is at this very instant jumping over a hedge, he's about halfway over. he doesn't know yet that on the other side of that hedge lies a big puddle of icy water, and that he will fall right into it, making a big cartoony *splash* noise. he'll be dripping wet. the girl will giggle, then feel bad about it. *** *** the inside of a car, seen from the front window. outside there's only miles and miles of road, and desert. it's obviously summer, and it looks like it's very hot, you can see the air shimmer in the distance. the car doesn't seem to have air-conditioning, because all the windows are open, and the two girls inside still look very sweaty, even though they're only wearing shorts and tops. they must be going camping, there's a tent, clothes and food lying in the backseat, it all looks very messy. the girl who's driving has jetblack hair, and is loudly singing along with the radio. the blonde girl sitting next to her has put her feet up on the dashboard, and is looking out the window. she's just spotted her first ever roadrunner. she's smiling because it doesn't even remotely resemble the roadrunner from the wile e. coyote cartoon. *** annie xo +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jiffy_popper at xxx.com Tue Feb 4 14:33:16 2003 From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 09:33:16 -0500 Subject: Sinister: its music moves, as if always back to a first love Message-ID: (couldn't send these last night, so am a day late...tsk) click! monday morning, 3 February 2003 While at the sink in the kitchen, I look out to see that skinny black cat staring at me through the window. Poor neglected thing! His head is too big for his scroungy body. I've nicknamed him Fang, due to his lower gnarled tooth. He sees that I see him and lifts his head in acknowledgement. I go outside, still in slippers and pyjamas, careful not to lock myself out (it is still cold after all) and give Fang some food. I bring water too, which he probably doesn't want. It is not as cold as it has been. Even though it is still ages away, I can feel a hint of spring in the air. sometime in the summer, 2002 Walking in Edinburgh down some particularly lovely street with Honey, Linda, Oon and Keith. No cars can use this street and all the houses are beautiful, with front gardens full of beautiful flowers, fragrant in the early evening sunshine. Slightly drunk, and it is summer, and I am abroad! Indulging in fantasy that when I am a wealthy and successful something or other I will live in one of these houses, and always have friends over, like some artsy commune. We will have freshly squeezed orange juice for breakfast and stroll about the garden, arms linked. later summer, 2002 Sitting on a sofa with Ally, Lucy and Dave. Have finished ice cream and my cheeks are flushed because I keep making myself irn-bru and vodka drink. There is some low-budget Northern Soul video on with a man and a technicolour changing coat, "special" effects. Lucy is trying to do an updo in my hair, fastened with a pencil, but it just isn't sticking! Feeling cozy and happy. Apparently if you are looking at someone's lips that means you want to snog them. I try to avoid looking at lips, which is near impossible. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Tue Feb 4 15:33:31 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:33:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: We were born before the wind Message-ID: <20030204153331.83078.qmail@web40609.mail.yahoo.com> Yesterday was odd. There was a layer of fog over the area. The sort of fog where, if you extended your arm in front of you, you would be hard pressed to see it. Whilst driving through this starnge and misty haze, I had "Into the Mystic" by Van Morrison, playing in my car. Though it wasn't intentional, I don't think I could have chosen a more perfect song for the weather as well as my mood. It honestly felt like a scene in which unicorns should be floating overhead. Very bizarre. Very lovely. That reminds me, I once convinced this boy from Ireland that Van Morrison was in the Chieftans. :o) I was so proud of myself. Today is very cold. bitter cold. my 2 year old associate is pretending that the mouse is a telephone. this sounds like a surprisingly interesting idea to me. I have really enjoyed reading the posts of late. I love when everyone is in a posting mood. Then I don't feel so badly about taking up list space. That reminds me of something. I vehemently hate online journals. Dead Journal. Live Journal. Whatever. I guess I just have a problem with friends saying "I want you to be interested in what I do. I am so amazing. Please, go out of your way to read about my life, even though I have no intention of spending time to inform you of the goings on in a more personal manner." I have many friends who deemed it appropriate to use an online journal in lieu of actual human interaction. Then it occured to me that sinister is very much like that. But then I determined that sinister is better. I mean, yes, we all post...some of us really personal things, some of us just everyday meanderings, others just sort of go on about various things. But we don't use this list in lieu of actual conversation and "real life" friendships....at least not the friends I have from sinister. All of my sinister friends and I communicate off list more than on list. Weird. I still hate online journals. Oh well. I just got an email from this man on my James Joyce mailing list. I joined with the notion that I would read these amazing conversations about Ulysses and it would give me the impotus to read the book, so I could get involved. I just got invited to lead a page by page analysis of Ulysses with this man.... I haven't the heart to say I haven't read it yet...... Grrrr. Why oh why did Mr. Joyce have to make that book so long? He should have kept it nice and short, like Oscar Wilde did. By June I will have read Ulysses. I promise. Yes, June. It's official. Celine Dion is from mars. ~stine __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeremy at xxx.uk Tue Feb 4 18:05:04 2003 From: jeremy at xxx.uk (Jeremy Tweddle) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:05:04 +0800 Subject: Sinister: It was summer when she moved in, and it was winter when she moved out again. Message-ID: <001501c2cc77$f2ce0e00$98525bcb@eacmen8acsha139> Um, where do I start after not posting for 8 months? Same as usual. Complaintsville. I'm shite tonight. As per. I found out that I didn't get into university. I knew I wouldn't, but secretly I hoped I would. I wanted nothing more than to find out where it is I belong in this crazy life. Unfortunately, now I know I have no place. At least not this semester. Earlier this week I extricated myself from the job(less) market by landing a telemarketing position. Yeah, I know...what a windfall! In doing so I think I debased myself as much as is metaphysically possible. If I scraped any lower I'd be humorous. But tonight I came to the realisation that I will never have *happiness* and *telemarketing employment* concurrently. It is most definitely beyond me. So, I've decided I don't need to be a martyr. I'm going to try my hand at unemployment again. Hopefully, not having a job will make me feel less awful than having this one. I had to go out to a family dinner tonight, so I kinda went out of the pot and on to the hotplate. Some were kind, others weren't, but that's how it is, right? I decided before I got there that I would be quitting tomorrow. I still had to go through the usual stories though. You know, the ones where the entire family (10 or so at the table I think) lean back in their chairs and cackle so loudly that you're sure the whole restaurant is muttering under their breath about how "loud and obnoxious those people are"? Well, that was my family tonight. I just sat at the end of the table (nearest the wall, out of sight) and ate my sundae in silence. I mean, what more can one do? Throw cream and nuts? What and waste my passable dessert? Frankly, they're not worth it. Anyhow, I know I didn't have a point here, so I won't bother trying to find it again. I'm somewhat safe in the knowledge that I was ranting even before I started this post, and I'm certain I'll be ranting long after I finish it. Um, I apologise to anyone that feels cheated that I didn't make this into an ink polaroid. However, I still don't quite get the idea of them, so I doubt someone as challenged as I would be able to get as far as actually composing one. Hmm, how did this self-referential voice get in here? Well, there's been a lot that's happened since last we spoke. I went into hospital for a while. Then I came out for a while. Now I'm doing my best imitation of a hermit. Although there is still one large hurdle between me and true hermitdom. I get lonely. Kind of defeats the purpose of being a hermit, no? In other news, I have a new website. Also, there are new songs and other stuff. Soon I'll have a forum about "stuff", to go along with all the other "original" things I've created that are inherently worthless due to their severe lack of originality. Um, yeah, I think I'll get back in my box now. Jeremy _____________________ http://www.breams.co.uk Home of all things breamy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From retrosec at xxx.uk Tue Feb 4 23:05:40 2003 From: retrosec at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Retro^Sec?=) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:05:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Ink photo album Message-ID: <20030204230541.96857.qmail@web13107.mail.yahoo.com> I bought it yesterday, from a craft shop just round the corner from work. It has black leaves inside, with bits of tissue paper that make a stealthy rustle when you flick over the pages. The outside is lilac velvet, and there are small red and crimson flowers embroidered around the corner. I had to buy proper little ink photo corners as well, so that I could sit here now, and go through the ink polaroids and put them into the album. I smile as I neatly align each one in, and write on a little sticker beneath, the name of the photographer and the date, in my neatest handwriting. ****** K x ===== http://retrosec.blogspot.com/ thoughts __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_cats_pajamas at xxx.com Wed Feb 5 01:11:00 2003 From: the_cats_pajamas at xxx.com (The Cat's Pajamas) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 01:11:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Cin-ister-natti Message-ID: Hi Folks, I'm currently in Cincinnatti for some work related stuff and plan on being here until Friday. If anybody knows of anything to do in this town, or happen to live nearby and want to get together, let me know. Ta! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Tue Feb 4 12:44:34 2003 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_[Steady-State]?=) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:44:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?an_ink_polaroid._[rather_bucolic_though].?= Message-ID: Dear Sinister Sitting by a train window the images are fused and confused. The speed is confusing the shapes and they are being transformed into something new. Slice should be taken only in between the blinks of the eyes. Like catching up a fast bouncing ball you didn´t expect was coming towards you. Hills softly covered in snow on the background. Far enough to be unreal. And a morning sky of pure blue. A kind of colour that can be there only after a storm, cleaned up by the winds blow. Nothing is really happening. Things are frozen in the wait for the next photograph to be taken and stored. The sheep can hardly be seen and some cows in black and white are grouped in corner and keep company and worm each other. This is my snapshot, which has vanished, in a deep long awaited sleep Take care, your Stefano ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* I'll be careful when I drive 'cause I want to see her once before I die. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Tue Feb 4 12:42:29 2003 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_[Steady-State]?=) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:42:29 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Dear Sinister Sitting by a train window the images are fused and confused. The speed is confusing the shapes and they are being transformed into something new. Slice should be taken only in between the blinks of the eyes. Like catching up a fast bouncing ball you didn´t expect was coming towards you. Hills softly covered in snow on the background. Far enough to be unreal. And a morning sky of pure blue. A kind of colour that can be there only after a storm, cleaned up by the winds blow. Nothing is really happening. Things are frozen in the wait for the next photograph to be taken and stored. The sheep can hardly be seen and some cows in black and white are grouped in corner and keep company and worm each other. This is my snapshot, which has vanished, in a deep long awaited sleep Take care, your Stefano ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* I'll be careful when I drive 'cause I want to see her once before I die. ONQ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trixiefirecracker79 at xxx.com Wed Feb 5 06:48:44 2003 From: trixiefirecracker79 at xxx.com (trixie firecracker) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 01:48:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Purchased Experiences Don't Count Message-ID: <20030205064844.2C7973A35@xprdmailfe27.nwk.excite.com> Look! It's a picture of me taking this picture! [How very post modernly self-referential and Eggers-ish.] I'm sitting on the brown couch in my apartment living room writing in my little black notebook. See those red and white stripey pajama pants I'm wearing? My sister made them for me last year, and I bought that pale green tshirt in New York. My hair is pulled back in pigtails. It's the longest it's been for a few years at least. I still can't afford to get it cut. My toes are curled on the carpet -- nails painted red -- and if you look closely you'll see the sleepyness in my eyes. � I was going to take a picture at my party, but then I just plum forgot. I think me-all-alone is a bit more poignant anyway. Is it just me, or does anyone else think that ink polaroids have a little bit of Coupland-esque Earth Memory-ness about them? love trixie.x _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Wed Feb 5 09:36:20 2003 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_[Steady-State]?=) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:36:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?the_snow_is_melting_in_the_desert._reasons_to_rally.?= Message-ID: My Picture Was all in the Snow But I wish to say a few words about something which might go to happen in a rather desert country. IRAQ. This Saturday, the 15th there is going to be a march in London. I am going to go. [if anyone wants to come along, please e-mail me I´ll be delighted]. Why? 1) Fist of all I DO NOT believe a was is a good way to bring peace. This is one of the arguments the So-called civilised western word military leading country US and 52th state governor of `the overseas territory once know as the united kingdom of great Britain and northern Ireland´ T. Blair, together with a few "wont-to-be-there" European nations (including Spain and italy [note one of this nations has previously fascist party in the government coalition, and the other one strong simpaty]....) are going around saying with their rather bold and utterly inexpressive face. Let´s consider that. The main target of the last war, iraq #1, kosovo/serbia, afganistan has ben the civil population. They have been bomber by `the intelligent bomb and missiles [such a stupid name]´ or had to escape from their houses. NONE of THEM have BEEN HELPED by western coutries. While spending millions to bomb and destroys the country they were living, there has NEVER been any effort to HELP the refugees, no camp hospitals or temporary accommodations, nothing. Didn´t NATO did it for the `freedom´ of the local population? Isn´t that what our `leaders´ were saying from the telly in they smart dressed uniforms? For God sake! One of the biggest reasons for death in Afghanistan is epidemic spread of various disease in the refugee camp at the border with pakistan. We [shame, I have to say we] bomb and forget. And didn´t even get the bin laden guy. Such a good job. Isn´t? ARE WE GOING TO DO THE SAME IN IRAQ? The answer is No: WE DID ALREADY!!!!! Iraq before Iraq petrol war #1 {iraq-kuwait conflict was a petrol was. World vs Iraq was a petrol war as well, Saddam Hussein won the first and obviously lost the second). During the kuait pital, school and all the civil facilities they could in Iraq. I don´t think it was useful to free kuwait was it? As a result the rate of infant death in iraq rose by 600%. It was the state with the lower rate of infant dearth in the middle east before the war. Iraq is one of the few state in the middle east were woman has almost the same freedom as man. For how the rather bloody dictator Hussain is, it is still probably one of the most liberal regimes in that region. Iraqi people were on average educated before the war, everything ceased after that. DID WE DO ANY GOOD FOR THE POPULATION? If we want to free them for mr. Hussain, I don´t think that let their children die because the boycott did include medicines and stuff was really a good move, let me say. Moreover, i don´t think this WAR is justified anyway. There should be a hundred reason for that, But let me just make a couple of consideration about our dear war motivators George&Tony? II) When the G.W.Bush says he don´t care about petrol, how can you believe all the other thing he says? III) Tony Blair present a dossier which demonstrate the presence of mass destruction armament in Iraq and even nuclear weapons. ONU inspectors found NO evidence of nuclear at all. And strong doubt about chemical and biological weapons. If the dossier was ANY accurate and believable, and it should have been in order to be the main support for a war action, why didn´t the ONU inspector checked for the site signalled in the dossier. Are they daft? No sir, they found NOTHING. The dossier was FALSE. BLAIR IS A LAIR. HE IS NOT TRUSTABLE AND HE HIMSELF DEMONSTRATE IT! Note. I believe that Saddam Hussein has chemical and biological weapons. He surely had. He used them on curds before the Iraq petrol war #1. Turkey did the same. No one of the so called western country really complained. In conclusion I would say I am FAR MORE scared by G. Bush that by Saddam Hussain! {honest} Let´s march to say NO to this war and to any other WAR. Take care, Yours stefan nt to see her once before I die. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Hewitt at xxx.uk Wed Feb 5 10:35:29 2003 From: S.Hewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:35:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sometimes I think Katrina has forgotten all about us ;) Message-ID: Not really dear :) OK, I know most of you have probably seen this, but just in case. Also I assume the offer of a trip to g-town is UK only... Real actual ink polaroids at some point in the near future when/if work stops being a complete bee-yotch, have immensely enjoyed reading everyone elses... xoxo CarsmileSteve PS W *W* DPD, btw? --- shop at banchory.net wrote: > From: > To: > Subject: Request for a Reporter > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:52:05 -0000 > > Hi you guys > > As you maybe know, one of the many little pies that > we currently have our > sticky fingers wedged into is this DVD that we''re > compiling. Well its > shaping up OK thanks to our canny editor, Blair, but > we feel that it needs > a little bit of spicing up in some departments. The > footage is spread > obviously back to 1996, and you do see a little bit > of the band talking > about their hobbies and weaknesses in a 1996 kind of > way. But now it''s > 2003 and we feel like this needs to be investigated > a little further, so > we''re looking for 2 reporters amongst you to come > to Glasgow and spend > some time with the band in a series of personal and > probably unexotic > locations. > > Blair would like to film you as you cruised into > Glasgow on a > mission.He''d film you interviewing the whole band > in groups or one at a > time, over a couple of days. A genuine curiousity > about the group and what > we''re up to and what we''re into is probably just > about all you would > need. You > would also need to be available pretty soon. I think > Blair wants to shoot > in under two weeks though that''s subject to > confirmation. > > It''s maybe a chance to ask us some of the things > that I personally never > get round to answering on the QA''s (though Sarah, > Beans, Mick and Stevie > seem to do pretty well just now) Ask us anything you > want. Well you can > ask me anything you want, I can''t speak for us > all... > > Tell you what, if you are keen, write and tell us in > less than 200 words > why you might like to be chosen for this particular > project. Aside from > the fact that we''ll get you here, put you up in a > nice hotel, take you > out for a slap up dinner and probably get you > pissed. > > Go on, it could be fun! > Stuart > > > If you want to take part in this, please email your > "essay" to > band at banchory.net and put "reporter" in the subject > line. > Thanks, > Katrina. > > http://www.banchory.net > http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home > **************************************************************************** For the latest City Lit news & information, please visit our website www.citylit.ac.uk **************************************************************************** The City Literary Institute Registered Office: 16 Stukeley Street, London WC2B 5LJ Registered in England no: 2471686 Registered Charity no: 803007 *************************************************** PRIVACY AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. *************************************************** This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From another_late_night at xxx.com Wed Feb 5 19:41:50 2003 From: another_late_night at xxx.com (Ian porter) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 19:41:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sordid Linlithgow nightlife Ink Polarioid Message-ID: The suns just about gone down on a Saturday night in the last week of the summer holidays. Im the one sitting against Doms garage wall, with Nathalie. Hendo is standing over me and Nathalie, moaning at us for smoking, Nathalie is moaning back at Hendo for moaning at Mackinnon earlier on. Hendo Likes Nathalie. Above us, the looming shadow that you can see is Owen, Owen is just about to fall off of Dom's garage roof. Its not high, but he will soon land on his arse in a comedy moment. Round the corner, Crussell is trying to light the barbecue, using some quite damp sticks and is shouting 'Shite' becuase hes burnt his fingers. In other news, I got a question answered by Stuart M and Chris. Woo! Im the one asking if they can do my Highers for me. _________________________________________________________________ Chat online in real time with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Thu Feb 6 03:44:01 2003 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 03:44:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: dawg on wheelz (more B&S Reporters info!) Message-ID: I guess Carsmile was running a bit low on gas because this follow up message got through before his did! I hope Katrina's inbox won't explode because that's where I've been sending my love letters through to. I hope the Belle and Sebastian DVD will have KARAOKE function!!!!! Ken >From: >To: >Subject: B&S news - Reporters >Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:13:56 -0000 > >Hi, > >Thanks to everyone who submitted an entry to be a "Reporter" and interview >the band for the forthcoming DVD/video compilation. We have been >inundated with entries and Stuart & I will spend the next couple of days >sifting through them to find the lucky two people for the job. If you >haven''t had a chance to respond, I''m sorry but we can''t accept any more >entries. *Please* don''t try to send one as my Inbox is about to explode! > >Thanks again, and when we have more info on the release details of the >compilation we''ll let you know. > >Cheers, >Katrina. > >http://www.banchory.net >http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brianraindogs at xxx.com Thu Feb 6 09:31:11 2003 From: brianraindogs at xxx.com (Brian McNeill) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 09:31:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Shape Of a Boaby. . . Message-ID: Italy has funded a study to determine why the head of a man's pen*s is wider than its shaft. The study took two years and cost over 180,000,000 lira. The results of the study concluded that the reason the head of a man's pen*s is wider was to provide the man with more pleasure during s.ex. After the results were published, France decided to conduct their own study on the same subject. They were convinced that the results of the Italian study were incorrect. After three year of research and cost in excess of 250,000,000 francs they concluded that the head of a man's pen*s is wider than the shaft to provide the woman with more pleasure during s.ex. When the results of the French study were released, the Scots decided to conduct their own study. The Scots didn't really trust the Italian or French studies. So after nearly three days of intensive research and at a cost of approximately 36 quid, the Scottish study came to the final conclusion that the reason that the head of a man's pen*s is wider than its shaft is to prevent your hand flying off and hitting your forehead. _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com Thu Feb 6 12:31:11 2003 From: paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com (Paulo Stinsoni) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 12:31:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Fotos Message-ID: Hello, I did two fotos for you all, but unfortunately the first was eaten by my dog, and I dropped the second one in a slushy puddle when fell over trying to run in the wrong shoes in the snow. Maybe next time Your Paulo _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mess_up_my_hair at xxx.com Thu Feb 6 13:08:51 2003 From: mess_up_my_hair at xxx.com (Alex Goffey) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 23:08:51 +1000 Subject: Sinister: *blushing* Message-ID: Wow, so I think I totally muddled up the entire ink polaroid concept, but it's been great fun reading everyone elses. I will put my little effort down to experience/learning/shame and embarrassment... here's a belated one from me anyway in an attempt to redeem myself. ******** There's a girl, sitting at a big desk, staring idly at the computer screen in front of her. Although the camera has flickered the photo, a green screen and piles of cards can be made out on the monitor. Her knees folded up and one hand resting on the mouse, her facial expression tells us that she could easily be anywhere else. The desk is a mess: paper, notebooks, chocolates and bubblegum, tapes and records strewn all around the place. Maybe if she ever got off the computer, she'd do something worthwhile, like wonder how she got her name and what she's going to do about it... ******** I missed out on sending my submission for the reporting job in. But then again, I'm not sure how willing they'd be to fly me halfway across the world to do the reporting. Of course, it'd save me a pile of money but oh well, next time kids... love and blushes xox alex p.s. if there's any brisbane sinister listees going to the Candle show on Saturday night, feel free to come and say hello to me. No doubt spot me in a corner with my B&S t-shirt and tartan skirt on..I promise not to bite. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Thu Feb 6 22:44:28 2003 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 22:44:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ARE YOU READY TO BATTLE? Message-ID: Hello, I haven't posted in a while, so I thought I'd drop you a line so you'd know I hadn't started a blog or anything. Right now I'm listening to UFO Romantic by Guitar Wolf. Guitar Wolf are these three Japanese guys who LIVE TO ROCK. Basically they are the Japanese Hives. What's not to like? Talking of The Hives, I was fascinated to learn from A*S*T*R*I*D that there are loads of Swedish bands that are even better than The Hives and The Soundtrack Of Our Lives. This is the kind of thing I want to hear. I for one am looking forward to our Northern friends establishing total domination of the pop world. It's bound to happen. It's also great that A*S*T*R*I*D is sending in lots of posts again, because A*S*T*R*I*D is B*R*I*L*L*I*A*N*T. I promised tapes of stuff to a few people and haven't delivered them yet. Er, sorry. I will do them eventually, promise. and now I must wander away. i'm sorry this post is so rubbish, I just wanted to make sure people still remembered who I was. bless, DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jlhill81 at xxx.com Fri Feb 7 04:05:17 2003 From: jlhill81 at xxx.com (Joanne Hill) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 04:05:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: If we don't have love, we have nothing Message-ID: Today we went to see All or Nothing...what a bleak, gloomy film. It's set on a housing project in London and follows the lives of three families scraping together enough cash to live, or just exist, week by week. The future for each character is left open at the end, but you wonder whether the contentment or happiness they may have found will be brief... Mostly however it was just grumpy teenagers still in their 'Kevin phase' (as in Harry Enfield)... But when we came out of the cinema it was snowing, and all pretty, so it was ok. Changing the subject, could anyone tell me which, if any, Pizzicato Five cd is worth buying? Are they any good? Also, does anyone have an opinion on Tatu? My computer is so old and pathetic that it won't play mp3s without skipping, otherwise I'd be able to judge for myself if these bands are worth my cash. :-( Bye for now, Joanne _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Fri Feb 7 18:32:28 2003 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 18:32:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Don't mention the V-Word! Message-ID: Well, long time no see. By my reckoning it's about 5 months since I bored you all with a message. But even Genevieve appeared the other day, so it's about time I came out of the woodwork... What? An ink Polaroid? Only four days late? Well, if you insist... ----------- This one's better as an ink Polaroid, because you don't want to see the real photos. It was taken a couple of weeks ago, when a group of us went to see the Rocky Horror Show. And I foolishly agreed to a competition to see who could wear the best costume. I don't normally dress like that, promise. For starters, my legs are too long so the stockings kept falling down. And the feather boa was moulting on the carpet. Still, until you've walked around the centre of Stoke's 'Cultural Quarter' wearing women's clothing, you haven't lived. Who said the British were reserved? ----------- Anyway, there was another reason for me writing. As we all know, B&S were running a competition for a couple of reporters to go and interview them for the new DVD they're making. Of course, I wouldn't want to name either of the people who won (sorry), but since I'm online more than most people at work, if anyone out there has any good questions for the band, email me by Wednesday lunchtime and I'll pass them on to the appropriate person... Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jiffy_popper at xxx.com Fri Feb 7 21:36:52 2003 From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 16:36:52 -0500 Subject: Sinister: reporters Message-ID: Big Stu appeared and seemed to know who won the reporter competition. Jeez they work fast at the B&S HQ, don't they? First, reporters wanted. Five minutes later they are overwhelmed and NOW they've all ready decided? Well, there is someone out there in particular that I hope won a place, so here's fingers crossed. I want to know who won! It seems like an awfully exciting position to have. I didn't even bother to apply because I thought it was only useful if you were already in Scotland, but if they're flying in people from all over I shall be kicking myself. Isn't that how it used to be in the old days...travel around with the band, hang out with them at the hotels and catch a glimpse of all that sordid life that will result in myth making and rumours our grandchildren will whisper about! They've put up some of the entries on the site (http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/) including a very funny one from Sister Disco. There's been a fascinating interview with Phil Spector running in the paper all week that he gave shortly before all his current troubles I guess. Apparently, he has a wristwatch that speaks the time, with "It's 4 o'clock!" going off and such. Anyways, there was such a lovely bit in the interview, it sounded like something you could make a hundred ink polaroids out of: "...mythic teen fables of desire and need and pain, the ecstasy of a goodnight kiss, the agony of being much too young to be married; innocent and knowing, neon-bright and dungeon-dark all at the same time; delirious, feverish - mad" So congratulations to whoever won, don't forget to Report Back to us as your new career takes off! xoxo Genevieve p.s. I liked Ian's Sordid Linlithgow Nightlife Ink Polaroid because it reminded me of the summer and too much time spent there waiting for the bus. My polaroids there aren't ALL sordid though. When I went into town with two little girls, each holding my hand, them wearing their flowered dresses and sun hats and smelling of sun lotion, everyone smiled at us and the bus driver would let us on for free. I think this young guy who worked at the shop thought I was a bad nanny though...I'd buy the girls ice cream at 11 in the morning. I remember all the swans around the loch, and sometimes a dog would bark at them and the Papa Swan would turn around and get all nasty by fattening his neck and shaking his tail (? not sure what it's called!). I remember a young girl (around 10) in a belly top scrutinizing me as I waited for the bus. "How old are YOU?" "Nineteen." "Hmm! You don't LOOK nineteen." And then she tried to get cigarettes from everyone. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mail at xxx.uk Fri Feb 7 22:23:40 2003 From: mail at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 22:23:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: late developer Message-ID: <000701c2cef7$95c5b000$8992193e@default> These aren't so much polaroids as conventional prints, hence the delay in my post to the list. These four didn't have too many advisory stickers on them although I'm convinced I need a nice shiny new digital camera... It's a double height modern space, clad in marble. Across the shiny expanse of floor are dotted slim, bronze sculptures and bonsai . Illumination is from a grid of chandeliers in the ceiling, although this is augmented by a pulsing blue from beyond all-glass revolving doors, where a motorcade has arrived under the porte-corchere, busy this evening with policemen, camera crews, diplomats and a scattering of foreign ministers. The Grande Hotel Esplanade, Berlin, 1999, is accommodating delegates to a G7 Economic Summit. With her back just half way off the shot is a woman, who may be Madeleine Allbright. I'm over there by the lifts. My taxi from the airport has arrived about an hour ago and I have been spending the intervening period in the company of several White Russians in 'Harry's New York Bar' just off this foyer. The lift doors are open, revealing an expensive mirror and veneer interior. I am being carried into it,on all fours, by two smartly liveried porters, up to my room. There are around 15 of us students, in a high-walled yard to the rear of buildings we've borrowed from some Belgian Nuns for the week. On the paving in front of us is a large flask of red wine, upon which has been marked the passing of time and volume. Discovering the latest time has involved some puzzled gazing at a wrist watch, and the lowest projector-pen line is somewhat wobbly, veering and fading off down round the bowl of the flask. We have been caught in poses that may derive from some ancient ritual catharsis. We are dressed in lightweight, disheveled summer clothes. Ceren flashes her palms towards the lens. Like her feet, calves, cheeks and forearms, they are liberally splattered with green emulsion paint. The rest of us are similarly decorated and behind us, debatably more conventional use of this and other pigments is evident on sheets of wood, cardboard and unravelling reams of blank newspaper. We are in the 'Dionysus' phase of our 'Apollo and Dionysus' workshop, hotting up for some wild abandon beyond the walls, past the big top we're staying in and up into the woods. It is still mid-afternoon. We are in a ravine, and the twighlight sky is but a ragged band above us. Strewn in arcs across this and glowing against the rock and branches below are coloured bulbs. To one side, a footpath winds between some hut-like buildings from which, if this were not a mere photograph, could be sniffed the rich scent and sizzle of grilling kebabs. To the other side a mountain stream foams, eddies, rushes and flows down towards the distant rooftops of the city of Teheran. We are sitting on carpeted cushions on a wooden platform partially cantilevered over the water and beside one of the huts. Chief architect, international avant-gardist and tutor B. sits by two young Iranian architects and the four of us postgrads from London. We have been well fed and conversation is flowing towards dusk as we take turns inhaling from an antique smoking contraption known to the British as a 'hubba bubba'. My mum and dad are in this one, smiling and relaxed, across the table. Although laid with a clean white cloth in a dining room elegantly fitted with early twentieth century carpentry, the food on the plates is modest: croque monsieurs, to be precise. Out of the window to our left is water of dazzling turquoise blue. The colour owes to the water's origin in glaciers high up between the peaks of the Bernese Oberland which, being out of shot, we'll have to imagine. Also missing from the print is the satisfying rumble of old brass machinery as the steamer churns its way east towards Brienz. The final missing item is my brother, who ought to be sitting next to me. However, he's 2 years older than my fourteen and has taken an independent turn today. His own itinerary has opened with a train ride westwards out of Interlaken towards Thun. For our part, a walk in the fresh, sunny alpine air beckons, along with another photo in which I'm sure to be seen with an ice cream. Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Sat Feb 8 14:58:48 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 06:58:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Get me out of FLA Message-ID: <20030208145848.8427.qmail@web40612.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings Sinister. I am nesteled cozily in my Dad's house in Florida. It is very strange being here when He isn't. I guess the reality of him being gone is finally hitting me. Yesterday the memorial was held. There were a lot of people which, as these things go, made me feel a bit better. Knowing that a lot of people thought highly of him was comforting. Dunno what today will bring. I *must* go to this little shop off of siesta key...they have the best salt water taffy EVER. I suspect this is due to the access to real salt water. On another note....I began to read "Dubliners".....granted it's not Ulysses, but it is by Joyce. Weee! Tomorrow brings the flight home. I can't wait to go home. When I am there I can pretend that everything is the same. At least I begin my new coursework in a months time. Yay!!!! Soon I will be Paul McGuinness Junior....then I can bite people too! :o) Oh well, I really had no reason to post...well, even moreso than usual. I owe a few of you emails which I will get to soon, I promise. kisses and cookie crisp ~sandy stine __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com Sat Feb 8 17:17:38 2003 From: a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com (a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 09:17:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Lost in TV. Or just ON Tv. Uh. Message-ID: <20030208171740.21893.h000.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> Hello all you twees out there! I'm on tv right now. Well, ok, the video I'm IN is on MTV at the moment. There's me.... there's me... Yes, it was six hours in a legendary punkcafé/concert place of dancing like mad. Fuck we were tired. I still get tired thinking about it. Phew. Today, I've had a great day. Because it's not Snow-everywhere-and-fucking-freezing, but enough-snow-so-you-can-walk-properly-now-and-nice-temperature-in-air. I'm going to meet my friend Emelie soon, and we're gonna rent a video, make some really delicious food and talk about boys and music. And watch the movie of course. I am hoping for the cheesy teeenmovie with Mandy Moore. She's coloured her hair brown. She's got a tatoo of a butterfly. She's got a fringe. OH MY GOD SHE'S SUCH A REBEL!!! Or not. But it'd be fun to watch, the slogan for the film is "She walks her own way, does he dare to follow!". It's even weirdly put, I thought they'd put a "?" at the end. But no, keep it cheery and nice, yes why don't you. ! I like Beck's song Lost Cause. Beck rocks. I'm gonna give you a link to a NEW PHOTO OF ME. IN MY EXCITING AND REBELLIOUS SIDEPARTING. Because I have brown hair, I must be a rebel, because that's what I've learnt for the commercial for Mandy Moore's film. That must be the truth. TV is the best sometimes. Like when you're home alone, late at night, and you're eating crisps and getting it all over the place. When you're ABOUT to go to sleep, but then you see "Coming up next, TV3 documentary: THE CHIPPENDALES". Yes, I did watch. And was it a documentary about their emotional true selves? Fuck no. It was a fucking SHOW recorded in London. Man it was freaky. Someone has misinformed those not even young men that women's three biggest turnons are: 1) Men in scary, apricotcoloured thongs in spandex 2) Men who rub themselves violently in a, shall we say least, frightening way with weird stuff like small towels or something, or dryhumping their supposed-to-be army beds. 3) Men who call themselves The Chippendales and strip for them. YUK. It was funny though, their choreography of all: One man comes in, in a white uniform, as the one Richard Gere has on in an officer and a gentleman, and ltos of women scream, to the tones of that crappy theme song. Then another guy in the same suit comes in. Astrid thinks: Wow, gay love. That's at least a bit controversial instead of just bizarre "sexy" dancing. Third man enters stage, smiling. Astrid thinks: WOW. Fourth man enters stage. smiling of course. Astrid thinks: Hmmm. Now it's getting crowded. Fifth and sixth man enters. They all start takin of their clothes. Astrid thinks: Eeeeeeew, not AGAIN!!! and hides behind the crispbag. TV is the source of all knowledge. Hehe. I have to go now, but bye bye. The link to my pic is: www.angelfire.com/ego/astrid/newpic.html I have to warn you though, I look a bit dopey. Ah, screw it. "I'm the baby, gotta love me." Astrid x --------------------------------------------------- Who would you rather be - Ted Danson or Kevin Costner? Fab: Who the fuck is Ted Dancer? Ted Danson. Fab: Oh, Danson. Nick: I think Ted Danson wears a toupee. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david_moore at xxx.uk Sun Feb 9 00:10:12 2003 From: david_moore at xxx.uk (David Moore) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 00:10:12 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Reporters Knocked Back/Be Their Valentine Message-ID: <001101c2cfcf$a14db700$3f133c3e@oemcomputer> Hi All, I felt better about not having got my own act together in sufficient time to submit an application for one of the Reporter jobs when I saw the quality of the ones rejected: Peter's one here http://www.banchory.net/belleandsebastian/reporters.html had me spluttering tea all over my computer screen at work yesterday afternoon. Good thing for Big Stu that Isobel's left the band now, that'll save him any embarrassment over that old asthmatic gerbil stuff. Over on the other side, in the death throes of the Bowlie Board, people are trying to sort out the lyrics to this song: If You Find Yourself Caught In Love If you find yourself caught in love Say a prayer to the Man above Thank Him for everything you know You should thank Him for every breath you blow. If you find yourself caught in love Say a prayer to the Man above Thank him for every day you pass You should thank Him for saving your sorry ass. If you're single, but looking out You must raise your prayer to a shout Another partner must be found Someone to take your life beyond Another TV “I Love 1999” Another box of rosé wine If you find yourself caught in love Say a prayer to the Man above If you don't listen to the voices Then, my friend, you'll soon run out of choices What a pity it would be Oh you talk of freedom don't you see The only freedom that you'll ever really know Is written in books from long ago Give up your word to Him but don't you? things will change I'm not saying overnight but Something has to change You're too good looking not to live If you find yourself out of love Shed a tear for the one you love Tell your boss that you've gone away Down your tools for a holiday but, If you're going off to war Then I wish you well, but don't be sore If I cheer the other team Cos killing people's not my scene And please would you give the inhabitants a say before you blow the town away Oh I like to watch them? be? I like to marvel at the Random beauty of a simple village girl Why should she be the one who's killed? If you find yourself caught in love.... Any help in resolving the ?'s would be appreciated, thanks. This afternoon I participated in an argument as to whether this gig would be oversubscribed or not: A Valentine's Day special featuring Camera Obscura & The Ladybug Transistor, Friday 14th February, Hyndland Church Hall, Novar Drive, Hyndland (just off Hyndland Road along from Clarence Drive), Glasgow. (Scene of their first ever gig, according to the big man. I never realised until today that the Bowlie Festival was only their second, wow!) Only a fiver to get in, doors @ 8.30 p.m. What do you reckon, will the Hall be packed? Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Sun Feb 9 21:23:48 2003 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 21:23:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Game Boy done Pong again Message-ID: hello all, Greetings! Hope all is well with you all. I'm just back from a lovely holiday in Hong Kong, which was fun but it's so nice to be home, where my bed is comfy (girls, take note) and where my B&S CDs are, mmm IYFS non-stop playing bliss. While in Hong Kong I had the pleasure of meeting two of HK Sinister Massiv' Richard and Paul, both of whom were Stella Artoises (that's as in two Stellar Fellas, rather than wife beaters), I reckon HK Sinisters should go bowling - it's only 8 dollars per game in Shenzhen you know... London dudes, another bowling weekender anyone? --- Big Stu reported... >>And I foolishly agreed to a competition to see who could wear the best >>costume. I don't normally dress like that, promise. For starters, my legs >>are too long so the stockings kept falling down.<< Those competitions are never a good idea, I once too agreed to enter one of those, and didn't I put the word "tit" back into "competition"? Though with that said, Big Stu, I dare you to interview Stuart M wearing those stockings....... love and red bulls, Ken (dreaming of the release date of the B&S KARAOKE DVD) -------------------------------------------------------- P.S.: Is Sarah Thurmond from New York City, USA also a member of this Parish? Well done to Stuart and Sarah - I wonder if you had to be the namesakes of B&S members in order to win that reporters competiton - I was hoping that someone called Gail or Gayle would win so that we will have a "Gail Reporter" but no such luck. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Mon Feb 10 13:34:43 2003 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:34:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ceasing Terror People Message-ID: Dear sinister, First day back at work and already I doss... will this song ever make the B&S KARAOKE DVD? Hope so.. Ken Ceasing Terror People -------------------------------- We lay on the Baghdad Hissing just for practice Could we please be objective? Cause the other boys are queuing up behind us A hand over my mouth A hand over their veto Well, if I remain oppressive and you just want to cuddle Then we should be ok, and we won't get in a muddle Cause we're ceasing terror people At least that's what we say we are doing So how are you feeling? I don't think you can be dealing all those weapons we had very well You took Bin Laden for a dirty Cold War, that's ok But when it's over You are looking at the fellow freak through the eyes of a megalo (maniac) You're kissing their oil Your military action And you can't understand why all the other boys are going for the New, tall, weapon inspectors I'll admit it is a bitch, kid But if they don't see the armory then it is apparent that You're going to have to change Or you're going to have to go alone You'd be better off At least you'll know who you're nuking. We lay on the Baghdad Hissing just for practice Could we please be objective? Cause the other boys are queuing up behind us A hand over my mouth A hand over their veto Well, if I remain oppressive and you just want to cuddle Then we should be ok, and we won't get in a muddle Cause we're ceasing terror people At least that's what we say we are doing Ceasing Terror People At least that's what we say we are doing Ceasing Terror People At least that's what we say we are doing (... by Blair & Sebushtian) ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted in it are confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator at uclh.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com Mon Feb 10 17:30:55 2003 From: pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com (hannah brown) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:30:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: 72% twee apparently Message-ID: It's true, i did the test and those were the results, i suppose the other 28% would account for my interest in electronic music (gasp!) and my habit of swearing at the TV. I haven't posted for a while, believe me i've tried but whenever i read it back to myself i just have to delete it. I don't care today, i'm just gonna be dull. Boy oh boy have i been exposed to some brilliant stuff lately. I bought "oh inverted world" by The Shins afew months ago and it truely is wonderful, it's got slight flavours of The Beach Boys about it. By that i mean it doesn't really sound like them it just has the odd similar harmony, If you haven't all already got it BUY IT IT IS GOOD. I went to see LOTRTT at Christmas and was tickled by Shmeegel, who bares a striking resembelence to an angry Laura Beal from Eastenders (to anyone scratching their heads, this is a cockney soap in which the whole of England is made up of one pub, one club a Leicester, a Manchester and a lot of faaaaaamily fudes) I think that Ink polariod day was fab, i might contribute to that one day. Where is Mr Brennan???? I think it is time he posted again Er, well that was fun, i really have to dash or i will have my ass considerably whipped ahhhh can't think of any witty endings, love and chips hannah b hmm that post really was shit _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Mon Feb 10 18:22:45 2003 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_[Steady-State]?=) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:22:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?sunday_bath_can_take_a_while_?= Message-ID: Indeed it can, my dear sinister. Provided the water is hot enough, which restrict the scheduling time to the hours when the heater is on (or, otherwise, would require that little bit of extra effort in the effort to turning the boiler on, which can be too much. Well, yes, I am a lazy gett) and the bubble foam is thick enough as well, which would, on the other hand, imply the presence of some foamy soap in any of the bathroom cupboard (stealing from the flatmate is inherently allowed). Given those conditions, which are no more than a obvious bunch of banality, all that remains is to splash into the water. Now the point is how a long a while is allowed to be? Indeed the length of the while is still rather undefined. Of course if you mind it and nobody´s life would be in a serious danger if the while is a little bit too long or short, except one would decide not to get out of the place and in the same time haven´t found someone else bring him food and stuff. Although recording things in terms of length weight and any other dimension is not really a matter of poetry, this seems to be the mood I´ve been on through the past week end. But It´s Ok, I´m lazy enough to allowed a set of incomplete pieces of information into my archive. One of the still missing ones is how really long the while can be consider. But that I can wait for the answer for a little while indeed. Though I think It can be catalogued as `quite a long while´. Living on my own has definitely boosted my tendency of spending the rather vicious habit of spending a terrible amount of time (read a while) in the Sunday bath ritual, eventually extending it to a series of day during the so-called working days. My Previous flat mate found most of my habits pretty strange, nor that I hadn´t thought the same of his own, but for some unclear reason, which I might understand but I don´t, the thing he considered on top of strangeness was the fact that I like spend some time submerged in foam and hot water. OK. OK. That time should have been a little why, an . If it really is, well, I don´t really mind. Indeed it could even be a kind of compliment. You rude flat mate! But apparently what screwed he up was the fact I could wake up as early as six in the morning to let the water flow to the get warm right to the right point (I, of course, like circularity), and take the control of the "magic room" before any of the troop of people sharing the flat would have been reached by the idea of invading the space. Not the outer space. Not yet al least. Well, I would admit that on Sunday morning no one would wake up at six, but you never know. Some one can. I can admit it can be a bit bizarre, but it is all connected to waking up a bit early in the morning, isn´t it? Well, lets´ say that you can have your first pint earlier then. Very good!! Did he said I was girlish? I don´t mind though.... This placing-everything-at-the-right-place impulse which has taken control of me in the last few days has also moved me to made load of stuff around the house and eventually ending up doing some cleaning that the place indeed deserved. This reminded me some kind of things animals do moved by some hidden instinct which ethnologist called parental care, or something like that. Especially this might be connected with some behaviour the birds exhibit when they build up their nest and that is preceding in time the `advent´ of chicks or whatever they progeny will be. Now given I don´t think there is any advent of progeny which will bright up my existence in the near future, at least, but some evidence suggest it can´t be a likely case in a future too near. But apart from that, I´m diverging (I think I am divergent, actually), the nest restoring has involved cleaning the curtains, which ahs discovered their mother-pearl secret colour (I win a bet with the neighbour which thought t! hey were dark gull grey), cleaning the kitchen cupboard, even cleaning the kitchen glasses (the fact that I am concentrating on the kitchen is no good sign, I might be I am actually planing for a winter long sleep ich I can see the garden I´ve been cutting the grass and where I´ve being hoeing close to the cypress path and the neighbour fence yes, the same of the curtains). Well, but the most was I even cleaned the shed. Now, given that a man in the shed is a song it shouldn´t have been on five leaf left, I do agree, (btw way did they put it also in time of no reply? Well it is time of no reply after all) that was quite impressive after all. At that I remembered something that I have seen in one of the usual documentary thing on the TV, that penguins are one of the few animals in which is the male exemplar that looks forward the chicks and even broods the eggs. Not that that there is anything weird and I found it really democratic. I think i can remember that the penguin in question looked also quite proud of sitting over the eggs and the nest and wasn´t chatting too loudly with a nearby mate. I think that look mist of worries and apprehension was actually about were his beloved halved might have finished when fishing jumpy fish in the not so warm water of the southern hemisphere. Moreover I feel sympathetic, an awful load sympathetic, to this goofy and smart birds that can´t fly in the air but only in the water. They look very kind to each other, I think that´s why in children books the waiters are often depicted as penguins. Alright, for the black and white suite that mother nature has given to them but aren´! t they luvely? Just a certain point I felt SO sympathetic to the them that I really feared something might have transformed me into one of them. I was sure it wasn´t the case, and that not I wasn´t another G. Samsa, when I get back into my bedroom and I didn´t find some enormous eggs over the duvets and looking at the mirror I didn´t looked like being dressed in a smart black and white dress at all. This had the advantage I shouldn´t care my flat mate coming back and hurting me with some kind of vegetable, I would have need to pay particular care to apples [and oranges], or eventually even throwing some trouts i e had trown some smoked salmon but that can be for another time. Smoked salmon prompted a half-a-kind-of-an-idea.... Curiosity and suspiciousness. Take care, Yours Stefano PS: my degree of consciousness about `sharing a whole lot of thinks´ to the not such agile things as penguin, remember me that my agility is almost as good as my English, and is even worst than my geography, sorry for having added an additional state to the Us and declassed the Uk to state number 52... I think tony should be worried which one the 51st might be.... PSII: thank you very mush to anyone who had post me off list about joining the rally on Saturday, and you still think you might be interested to come, just drop me a line... we can all walk packed like a penguin colony... they are lovely and harmless.... Again, take care stefano ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* I'll be careful when I drive 'cause I want to see her once before I die. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From languagecreep at xxx.com Tue Feb 11 04:39:45 2003 From: languagecreep at xxx.com (Today I am hungover but cuddly as a bunny anyway) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:39:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: tired of fighting for a lost cause Message-ID: I want to thank Astrid for recommending Lost Cause, by Beck. I just spent a lot of time listening to it and playing diamond mine on shockwave.com. It�s appropriately sad, so I can cry a lot inside, and keep the outside frozen. I�ve never not been lonely. Only fooled myself into thinking I wasn�t from time to time. I�ve never not felt like an alien. Like what I see in the mirror must mutate the instant I turn away, into some grotesque shape that reflects what the inside feels like. External wounds to match the internal. I torture myself thinking of the possibility of someone pining for me the way I do for so many people. The idea of it breaks me down. Yet I keep thinking about it, while keeping my mouth shut. The day I took the walk alone in Iceland, I kept seeing broken glass everywhere at my feet. All I could think when I saw it was �I could use that to slit my wrists.� I meant more than I ever have in my life, and I�m supposed to be so much better now. Granted this was low was caused by the enormous betrayal perpetrated by the person who calls herself my best friend. I find that the spells of feeling good last longer, but the downs are lower. I feel broken. Like there�s some crippledness to me that I can�t quite see, so it can�t be repaired. I start to hate all the things I like, out of sheer repetition and mockery. Can�t really like anything, it has to be a joke. Being genuine only opens up for more wounding. Another bruise. Hang the head a little lower. The urge to run away has come back. I don�t need any of this. I don�t need to secure my future. I just want to be given a new start. A real one. I want reincarnation. In the dream I move away without telling anyone, because I can�t know anyone anymore. I fade out and reappear somewhere totally separate from what I was before. Then I just exist. Get some shitty job and live. That�s all I want really. That and love. I�ve always wanted that. I�m utterly crap at getting it though. I have no idea what I�m doing. I always feel like I�m mentally stumbling. Yet the confidence comes. When I don�t expect it, it sneaks up on me. So I suppose I am getting better. Maybe I will never be a sunny person. More of a sunset and sunrise of a girl. I�m sorry, there�s nowhere else to empty my head. very much love, Kara www2.bc.edu/~brielman _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Tue Feb 11 16:57:25 2003 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:57:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: the mulberry bush Message-ID: <20030211165725.85151.qmail@web40406.mail.yahoo.com> We come down from a walkway, turn a corner, climb a slope, among the walls of desolate grey, under the sky of desolate white stained with black (call it... grey), to achieve the vantage and vista of the broken heart of things. On our right, the Primark where it seems he used to work, maybe when it was called something else. (All is memory; some of it seems to have gone unactivated a while.) Ahead, an elevated clock ticking the town's time. Right here, sight's first challenge: a warping moulded erection of granite, marble, charcoal, whatever. He tells me it's called 'Joyride'. It turns out to be an image of mother and child, nothing to do with naughty drivers. I take a couple of pictures. There are plenty more where this came from. For instance: a few hundred yards later, an inhabited, stained block of concrete that seems to be getting ill. The health centre. A little way up this street parade, a half-fabled place. The Library. Its name's white letters descend the brick wall. I need to frame this to get them all in: and him, standing outside, looking away, not quite like he's just come here from the dole office and is about to depart with a battered random acquisition, a Frank Kermode nobody else wanted this week, or this year. There's another where that came from. It's not as good. I didn't quite get all the letters in. The rest of them are even more interesting than this. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com Tue Feb 11 19:00:28 2003 From: a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com (a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:00:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Queen Of The Underworld Message-ID: <20030211190031.2072.h005.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> I've always wanted to be that girl, but I'm not sure what he means. Jesse Malin that is. Man, he really is something. You should all listen to him, or I might show up at every single sinisterbites house, dancing a frightening "Why-don't-you-buy-the-goddamn-record!"-dance. And we don't want THAT do we? I thought so. I still really want to go to New York, I somehow, subconsciously, am sure that if I go to New York for a one week holiday everything in will be real fine. Like, I will just happen to run into Ryan Gentles and he'll say "Astrid! You are charming! I want to be your manager!" and I'll say "Ok dude" and then I'll get a record deal and be famous and loved by everyone. Er... I didn't say that. That was wannabe-Astrid talking, I'm sorry. Really, I want a very artistic and noir way of doing things, I will always be a suffering artist. No, I'm sorry. I lied again. I *do* want people to say "Whoa, you really do rock". Who wouldn't? It's no fun hearing that you suck. Lately, it's alright down here with me. I'm quoting again, oops. This is one of my more schizophrenic posts, and I truly am sorry about that. Sometimes I wish I lived in New York, or Great Britain, or wherever that's big and not Sweden, because it feels like then I'd find lots of cool kids to hang with, and I'd find some nice boy that I could make mixtapes to and we'd be kissing just for practise, and all that twee business. There's a lack of those kind of boys here in Sweden, you see. I'm not sitting here, writing a post admitting that my lovelife is not the most exciting things on earth. No, that would be stupid, since I could pretend that I had tons of boys crying into their pillow at night because they're all in love with me. I'm not admitting it. I'm just, er, hinting. But you can't blame me, because I always become like this when it's close to Valentine's A-fucking Day. I hate it. I really do. Sometimes I get swept up in it and I think for a moment that I'll get a rose (I dunno about other countries, but here, there are almost always internal systems in the schools so that you can send roses to people, anonymous or not) or a card from someone non-family. It's all too depressing. I hate that. Fuck that shit. I WOULD like a card or even better a rose, though. I really would. Sigh. Love sucks most of the time, because, at least for me, it seems to make me fall in love with the most untouchable boys. Not in the sort of most popular boy-sense, but just that they'd never fancy me. Maybe I haven't got a boyfriend because I'm too tall. Much too tall for a boyfriend. Now, all I have to do is push the send-button and then you can all read these embarrassing confessions. So I will do that, and then I'll be ashamed for a while, but I'll be alright. All of you, do take care. Luv and Pillowfights Astrid x Reporter: Spit or swallow? Craig N: I like all birds. I think the eagle is my favourite. Aaaaaaw. That's just too sweet. Hee hee hee. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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So slow and so depressing I had to take a day off last week, just to do nothing. I did nothing very well, the day including sleeping, a visit to the hairdresser, a visit to the cinema, and more sleeping. How good sleeping can get? I still don't know even with lots of practice. I went to London recently for the weekend; it was lovely, with this "good to be back home" feeling you have when you get back to places you have been loving and living in. I will not make a list of all the people who offered me time, drinks, interest and pleasant conversation, but thanks to all of you (although a special mention to Gingerfox for the very organised organisation). I had a curry and lots of beer, and I was offered a new frog to take back home. For people who don't understand what I am on about, I already own a pet frog called Larry. He now has a new friend called Henry, and the two of them are getting along fine (even if the flat is a mess now with the two of them around). Congratulations to the reporters selected: reporting back will be highly needed, obviously. Music-related: I am rediscovering French pop these days. Thanks to a new radio station I found and a new music magazine, I have heard lots of new things recently, and I got all excited about bands and singers I didn't know about. It's good to be excited about music, it has been a while since last time I was amazed, amused, or surprised by a record. Recently there are at least 3 or 4 that had some effect on me. Wooh. On this note of hope, I shall leave you. Elena * I didn't hear from my Xmas angels, so there: I want to thank Kate for the great parcel (the purse hasn't left my bag since i got it!), and I hope that my parcel got in OK to the person who was supposed to get it. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Wed Feb 12 19:21:18 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:21:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: it's such a perfect day Message-ID: <20030212192118.7841.qmail@web40601.mail.yahoo.com> hi lovelies, have any of you heard the duran duran cover of perfect day? it really is quite amazing. lou reed said that they performed that song the way that he had always invisioned it. enough of that. how are y'all doing? i'm okay. sitting here somewhat trepedatiously as we are being told to stay calm and live life as we normally do....but expect a terroristic attack at any moment. does anyone else find the contradiction in this? i dunno. this whole terrorism thing is relatively new to us here in america.....i don't know how people can live in fear of things like th� each day. i can't imagine growing up like that. you know what has always struck me as...almost funny...about the IRA? granted, they are bastards, and I am in no way making light of the things that they do and have done. it just always amazes me that the IRA always tell people where they are going to bomb. at least they give people a little time to get to someplace safe. like in....circa '96/97 when they bombed the mall in manchester. they told everyone they were doing it, then said "if you get hurt, it's your own damn fault." of course, it isn't the fault of the bomb. weird. that always makes me the of EUREKA STREET, by Robert McLiam Wilson. It is set in Belfast and there is this one particular scene that always haunted me. There is this girl who hasn't had many boyfriends. She is a little on the heavy side and has a lot of probelms with confidence. She meets this boy who thinks the world of her. He loves her how she is and, because of this, she gets more confidence. So she is at a shoppe and decides to buy a skirt, shorter than she would usually do, because she feels really sexy and attractive. There is this build up and the reader gets so enchanted by this girl, you are really rooting for her. then she is walking home from the store and gets killed in a bombing. it broke my heart when i read that. that was long before the WTC attacks here, and I had never had to deal with any of that "for real", so to speak. it was always happening far away from here and impossible for me to comprehend. that is some scary stuff tito. onto much lighter and insignificant things. i got shorn yesterday! HOORAY!!! i have my short hair again! i am so happy. it's all spikey and flippy again. i also have this red stuff that you can put on the tips of your hair or whatever, and it puts these red streaks in it...i also have blue. tre cool. see how cosmopolitan i am. i am so ready for the music industry. now i just need to become more extroverted and stop hiding behind my computer all of the time. oh well. baby steps. :o) i think it is an inherent traint of sinisters to be on the shy side. at least the ones that i have met. anyway. time to go and make an elephant out of hearts. much love to you all. please stay safe. love ~stine __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Thu Feb 13 03:42:58 2003 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:42:58 +0700 Subject: Sinister: War, Go-Between's, Football Message-ID: hello, "Stay the FAQ out of IRAQ" is what my banner will read on Saturday, at 11am in Forrest Place. Jeremy and I are going to meet up beforehand, so if any other Perth people want to join us that would be great. "Love Goes On" is a song which I really hope The Go-Betweens play on Saturday night. Does anyone want to go for drinks before the gig? "Kewell as a Cucumber" It was nice to see Australia finally beat England at something other than cricket, tennis... take care, terry --- here's what i think: http://naivetysucceeds.blogspot.com caitlin and terry's sinister recipe tree archives: http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/sinifood/ _____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trixiefirecracker79 at xxx.com Thu Feb 13 06:31:08 2003 From: trixiefirecracker79 at xxx.com (trixie firecracker) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 01:31:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Lions and Tigers and ...Socceroos Message-ID: <20030213063108.44D65B6FC@xmxpita.excite.com> Hello Sinister Boys and Girls, Tomorrow is Valentine's Day and alas, I am without a valentine. I do however have a ticket to see Spoon and that is maybe better than a bad date and a plastic rose. I also happen to have a spare ticket to see said band. Are there any sinisterians in Melbourne who might like to go to this show and do not yet have a ticket (Friday Feb 14 at the Corner)? I am willing to trade it for a drink or two and a haiku. You wouldn't have to stand with me or anything. It would be a straight trade. No pleasantries necessary. Let me know asap. Here is something that is related to Belle & Sebastian, or perhaps only really related to my subconscious mind. A few nights ago I had a dream that B&S were coming to play in my town at a big park. 'Yay!' I thought, and romped on over to the location which just happened to be 'round the corner from my house. When I got there I discovered that instead of the lovely band I was expecting, the park was filled with big cats. Lions and Tigers and (not bears) Panthers and Leopards and stuff all roaming free amongst the rose bushes and grassy areas. (If anyone from Perth knows that rose garden park on Stirling Hwy in Nedlands, that's the sort of place I'm talking about). So of course I fled, and then later I found out that while I was running and hiding and trying to be safe, I missed the show! I was so very disappointed. Stupid feline fear. I think maybe I got to converse with Stuart Murdoch though. So that part was good. In other news, I woke up this morning at 5.10 am so that I could catch the tram and the train to a friends house so that I could eat pancakes with strawberries and blueberries and watch Australia kick England's ass at soccer 3-1. Oh yeah. So very satisfying. The Socceroos are totally underrated. [Is it true that the Sun's headline was "Kanga Poo"?] love sleepy-eyed Trixie.x _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clairk at xxx.edu Thu Feb 13 07:22:43 2003 From: clairk at xxx.edu (kevin m. clair) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 01:22:43 -0600 Subject: Sinister: cricket! and school Message-ID: <1422310271.1045099363@RIVENDELL> Hey Sinister. I thought I'd write more. I like getting and reading everyone else's so much I thought I'd contribute a little myself. I've been following the cricket world cup, even though I'm from Illinois where everyone is too busy following the Cubs to care about cricket too much. I played it once last fall. There are some pretty good cricket players at my school; we get quite a few students from India and they've a lot of them played before. Anyway, I was pretty happy that Canada won their first game. I'm not really pulling for anyone in particular (south africa) but I guess I'm partial to the Canadians, since nobody expected them to win anything and Minnesota is really South Canada at heart. It's still hockey country, though. The music department here got a new professor who specializes in studying popular music, and so next term there's going to be a class completely dedicated to it. He taught a class called "Music of the 1960s" this term where John Cage and the Beatles and such like were all over the syllabus; I expect much of the same from this class only more hardcore, since it's apparently a "research seminar" and he uses words like "semiotics" in the course description, and I don't even know what that is. But I like music! So it seems like a good trade-off. Also, there's going to be a music interest house next year, or at least some folks are planning it. I like how Carleton is suddenly Indie Rock University now. So I have been listening to the college radio station, and not just having a show on it. It's gotten me really excited about new music from Cat Power and the notwist, and I'll have to buy new records all over the place when they come out finally. I really wish someone had told me about Cat Power sooner, although I suppose if I listened to more college radio they would. I guess that's all I have to say. I wish we'd get more snow, but the word is it's supposed to be warm next week, which I guess isn't too bad. Incense and peppermints, Kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Thu Feb 13 08:24:57 2003 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:24:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Self-adhesion made a glue of me Message-ID: Already this has been mentioned a couple of times.... February 14th. Arrgh. And then thinking about February 14th I realised that it can't be that bad (especially if you write February 14th in full like this - but if I were to spell it FABruary 14th it would be overkill, ironic even - REDBUary on the other hand, would be excellent). It can't be worse than say Christmas without a family... like, the day itself isn't that bad, it's just everyone else having a blast that makes it bad! Although it is true that when families get together they don't get all snogative all of a sudden! No matter where I go there are going to be much sightings of coupling (not to be confused with copulating which might be at least amusing to watch), and that wouldn't be nice. So I fully intend to stay put at home even if I am getting some very lucrative (a word I keep confusing with ludicrous!) offers to go out. Because sleeping in bed at home is the only way to escape! Oh shit I hope my flatmates won't be having romantic dinners indoors. Hopefully next year's Valentine's Day would be better because the !B!&!S! !K!A!R!A!O!K!E! !D!V!D! (does DVD stand for a "Dirty Vicar Device"?) will have been out, and I can Sing The Night Away (by singing Wandering Alone), maybe more appropriately "Get me away from here, I'm dying" or "I don't love anyone". Or just marvel at Big Stu's sexy body. I look forward to Fabruary 15th which is when I intend to pick up all the girls who got dumped by/have dumped their boys. Emotional Vunerability = Ken's Profitability innit! I'm so clever, bit like Einstein but without the first "i", nor the "stein" bit at the end, but with a "K" right at the front. KEn p.s.: terry underwear said: >>"Stay the FAQ out of IRAQ" is what my banner will read on Saturday << I quoted that just now, and was going to ask some question about it but I'm going to hold out for now, as it may be Frequently Asked. Heh, yeah, thank FAQ for that, whatever. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Thu Feb 13 07:19:00 2003 From: rfadden at xxx.com (rrrrobyn) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 23:19:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: throwaway luxe Message-ID: <20030213071900.57789.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> sin is ter: oh, the things i learn late at night while on the inter-net and listening to brave new waves on the cbc radio yo: - new cat power album out February 18. (isn't typing/writing out all of "february" better than typing/writing "feb". i so think so.) yes, so yaay. new peel session up on bbcradio1 too. and she's going on tour with backing band. but not here. b/c of the french people. hahaha. no, b/c it's canada. and the windchill tomorrow is -40 to -50 celsius (to update). it's crazy. all of it. the snow was so blinding in the sun the other day that tears came to my eyes and i *staggered* a bit, wishing for one of those eye slitty things the guy in 'atanarjuat: the fast runner' wears. oh, and the fur outfit too. lots of fur and animal hide, yeeeeeaaaah. (it's grand though when the weather people tell you not to leave your house unless you really must. i see no reason to disobey the Weather People.) - Okay, calm down but don't b/c: yo la tengo is on tour in april. and they are coming to montreal! with portastatic. i almost cried when i heard the news. windchill be damned, b/c ylt is not touring the west and never do. and i am in the east now. the east! er, the centre? and april will be warm. ish. - april will be warm! ish! - oh oh oh! *and* new aisler's set album!!! out at the end of the month and slightly after in the UK. i heard a song from it on the radio tonight and it is *good*. as if there was any doubt. hurrah! i am dancing *already*. - other musics of goodness (to pick a few): sea and cake "one bedroom", loose fur (do you like wilco? you should. yeah.) and if you haven't already, give a listen to the streets. and maybe delton 3030 while you're at it. fun/good on many levels. levels themselves=good. - ohmygod, download some david cross and pee your pants laughing. - i am touring tonight in the "i am sorry for being a lame-ass late-ly international hang-your-head-in-shame tour". i have been uncommunicative and want people to know that i care about them even if i don't email it very well. /me sends robyn-sized hugs out to anyone i've every talked to/emailed/chatted with (even those who broke my heart or challenged my wit. haha, no, not really. fry in hell! haha, no, it's okay. i'm now all karmically enhanced n' stuff (which, i'm told, is the new rawk n' roll.)). not that social 'net interaction will start up with abundance again anytime soon - the library is my new best friend. and the online library catalogue fights for my affections too. *but i like it*. robots and fashion and the inside of the body: this is why "media studies" is where it's at. i mean, and you could do your thesis on "why the existence of this? and how? what? etc. really, how? why? please?": www.mvm.com. - thank you publicly to Richard John Gillanders for such a great christmas x-change present. a hemingway-style notebook! a cd! mints! a tiny book of big montreal architecture! all Appropriate :) And, to follow elenita's lead, i hope my christmas present found its way safely to its person in alabama. it was late, yes, but it contained things i think are good. are they good? - b-vitamin complex. not the band, the supplement. recommended during the harsh winter months for renewed energy, superhuman metabolic powers, and supple skin. - point form with few actual points, - robyn - (perhaps more later on the wonders of american idol, cdn popstars, why friends is still on tv, why the lawyerlady, why an hour of tv means a few more of sanity, etcetera.) - see what happens? see? ?! ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Montreal, QC __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Thu Feb 13 12:35:23 2003 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:35:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Forget Love, I'd rather fall into chocolate Message-ID: I've decided to make GayJay a stuffed dalek to use as a teddy bear if it's the last thing I do. Of course, with my history of clumsiness and any sharp object - even one as small as a sewing needle - it might very well BE the last thing I do. Nevertheless, big thanks to him for setting up the Valentine's Day present exchange as I now have a English darling as my sweetheart - for one day at least. After that I have to go back to my tactic of, "As long as there are illegal aliens who want citizenship, Laura Llew will have a date." Why would I even bother with Sinister - if not to take advantage of young English and Scottish boys who want to live in America? I promised to start posting regularly and then the very next week I neglect my duties. However, my ink polaroid is like my life - underexposed. So there you go. However, I decided that I must post today as it is: MISS HONEY'S BIRTHDAY Oh yes! Purveyor of Smut, List Mummy, Minxalicious Milkmaid, and Princess of all that is pink and fluffy deserves all of your on-line greetings and well wishes. Or at least her very own chocolate covered cutie. I would volunteer to help round one up but I seem to be lacking in the ability to procure such a find so perhaps Miss Linda shall have better luck. If you (like me) miss Honey's posts go to http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199912/msg00205.html and remember the good old days. Honey rules. For you Sinister archivists out there, I shall inform you that February is the MONTH OF THE TART! Along with Honey the month is filled with the likes of Miss Maddie Minx celebrating her day on the 17th, the ever patient Caitlin's was on the 4th, and the loveable Ree's is on the 22nd. Tartastic Quotes: "But they gave me a purple lollipop, and who can be upset with a lolli in her mouth?" (Ree) "The perils of being a teenage slut. It costs a fortune in accessories." (Miss Maddie Minx) Are you sure it's 'frondage' that you like?" (Caitlin) Now I shall bid adieu by sending big props out to Alyson Snowball and her Which Belle & Sebastian Song Character Are You. I'm Judy. I dream of horses. I'm staying inside - making Basic Eight quizzes which I wish had as great as graphics as the end of results but they don't because I suck. See for yourself at: http://quizilla.com/users/petullant/quizzes/Which%20Member%20Of%20The%20Basic%20Eight%20Are%20You%3F/ Love & WWDPD hipflasks*, Laura * Carsmile Steve: the answer is in the flask. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Thu Feb 13 17:38:04 2003 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?robster?=) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:38:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: if they were me and I was you / would you like a present too? Message-ID: <20030213173804.77933.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com> Sinistahhh! Hannah said: "Where is Mr Brennan???? I think it is time he posted again" Ahh, me public. I only seem to post these days because of good ideas (such as Ink Polaroid day) or I've been prompted to do so by people. Sort of like encores. If I could construct a decent post, this paragraph would be all about encores or, as I call them: "The Bit After The Gig Where They Play The Good Songs". B&S encores have been discussed extensively in the archives. Look at archives! Go! See! I've seen two B&S encores. Happily, the first was at the RAH when their touring equipment included a teeny-tiny box with Monica Queen inside so they could perform Lazy Line Painter Jane. There was also a Beans-led cover of Everyday People that RAWKED. They also RAWKED the following year with a cover of Another Girl, Another Planet which almost made up for the non-MQ LLPJ. My Favourite non-B&S encore is probably Lambchop covering This Corrosion at my local fleapit venue. This may explain my girlfriend's assertion that I have latent goth tendencies. Or it could be because all my socks are black. Like everyone else who doesn't post anymore, I started a blog. It's a useful place for writing stuff that won't go elsewhere and for cleaning up stuff that I've already written elsewhere (such as any good bits in this post). It's also rarely updated and somewhat awkward to read so I'm not linking to it. I should probably take the time, also, to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY HONEY! So I will. And so should you. I miss Honey. Robster __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Thu Feb 13 19:38:21 2003 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:38:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: my honey's got miraculous technique Message-ID: This morning I woke up at 5am, because I am a fool who thought going on holiday to the exotic east with 8 hour timezone difference is a good idea. So when I planned to get to work for 9:30pm I got rather ahead of myself. Although waking up early can sometimes be a bliss, at least I have time to get all the necessities done before going to work (e.g. going on the internet). Of course, I also got rather ahead of myself when I ranted about Redbuary the 14th, and also FABuary the 15th, when it's still only FebuHONEY the 13th! What a silly man I am. Happy Birthday Honeypea!!!!!! May the auntsadie be with you.... Ken ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted in it are confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator at uclh.org. This footnote confirms that the email and attachments contained no viruses when they left UCLH. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Fri Feb 14 02:00:44 2003 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 02:00:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: hello ken In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I thought you were back in the U-uuuu-k-ah Back in the... And so on. it's only 2am where I am. What are you doing? > From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org > Reply-To: kenneth.chu at -uclh.org > Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:38:21 +0000 > To: sinister at missprint.org > Subject: Sinister: my honey's got miraculous technique > > This morning I woke up at 5am, because I am a fool who thought going on > holiday to the exotic east with 8 hour timezone difference is a good idea. > So when I planned to get to work for 9:30pm I got rather ahead of myself. > Although waking up early can sometimes be a bliss, at least I have time to > get all the necessities done before going to work (e.g. going on the > internet). > > Of course, I also got rather ahead of myself when I ranted about Redbuary > the 14th, and also FABuary the 15th, when it's still only FebuHONEY the > 13th! What a silly man I am. > > Happy Birthday Honeypea!!!!!! May the auntsadie be with you.... > > Ken > > > ********************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted in it are confidential and intended > solely for the person or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have > received this email in error please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at > mail.administrator at uclh.org. > This footnote confirms that the email and attachments contained no viruses > when they left UCLH. > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From purpletrousers at xxx.com Fri Feb 14 02:43:40 2003 From: purpletrousers at xxx.com (jim taylor) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 02:43:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: #absolutely nothin', say it again. HUH.# (get off yer arses sinister).. Message-ID: or is that a bit harsh? good to hear stefano has had plenty of emails back off list :) lazily stolen form the latest schnewsletter http://www.schnews.org.uk/ : "Why of course the people don't want war...But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they're being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger." -Hermann Goering, Nuremberg, 1946* * not that i'd dispute there is terrorist risk here in the UK, but it doesn't mean you have take the exact opposite position in how to successfully deal with it (such as challenging longstanding global inequalities, trading more fairly etc etc) and declaring war on an arab state. Ah, the wonders of logic. Especially other peoples'. Saddam might have some nasty weapons. IDEA: let's make him use them! CONTENT : sinipolitix last demo (sept) bapps-fruitloops matrimony sinsiterfitba + sinister football results SINIPOLITIX (a potential yahoo subgoup???) http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/latest/msg00041.html says more than enough. stefano pulls no punches, and neither should he. Good on you Stefano. I started this email back at the start of the year. I've been busy, promise. At least somebody got round to mentioning it. it is strange. i could just send a blank email to the list, quoting my post back hmmmm when was it Sinister List Archive? :september http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200209/msg00076.html and ditto marks. + just put the new london demo meet up details. please view this as an unfortunate part two to that message. So has anything changed? well yes actually the world has changed in many ways. and i'm not sure i can think of a more tangible time to make a difference. To have seen the German foreign minister emotionally telling Rumsfeld he didn't feel able to deceive people in the same way as him was amazing. and very important. Daily developments are fascinating. Seems like *certain* european states have actually got the bottle to face up to the US and check out on or two more options before we, ahem, bomb the iraqi people to freedom... and hey i'm not being london, not even UK centric. London could allegedly be bigger than VE day. "Globally, February 15 will likely be the single largest day of protest in world history." see any of the 316 other cities (and that'll be way off by now, there's bound to be hundreds more @ http://unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=725 which has many links) otherwise stretch your legs @ http://www.stopwar.org.uk/ for UK demo details or follow the links for wherever you need to go. There's even a demo @ McMurdo Station, Antarctica, so don't tell me you're anywhere harder to get to one or organise one. This really is so pivotal, you can almost hear the political machines of europe crunching as they shift gears, and desperately try and slap on the handbrake on the international juggernaught that people are gradually realising they have the power to stop. I had an argument (well not quite that, but) in the pub after football on friday with an ex-albanian hunger striker who'd apparently helped bring down their government. He felt that demonstrating in the UK or US would be pointless, which i found as much surprising as disappointing. Surely the last 3 days news is evidence of public opinion shifting european policy, which will in turn, make it harder + harder for the UK&US, maybe even just US to go it alone. Actions have consequences don't you know. For us, and our 'leaders'. I'm not sure people are making enough of this, but the possibility of things getting blocked at the UN security council are looking stronger to me. see http://www.un.org/Docs/scinfo.htm (ISN'T THE MODERN INTERWEB THINGY GREAT, SORRY, GRATE why that spelling please?) to understand how the vote works (or trust my understanding that you need 9 of 15 including all 5 permanent members (US,UK, Russ, Ch, Fr). Blair has said he still might play with his tanks if one of those 5 permanent vetoes, but has implied he wouldn't if more than one vetoed. Sini-folk in China, France, Russia... ? there must be some. Blair convinced me last week he believes he is doing the right thing, and is prepared to 'stick to his guns' (ahem), even if everyone else disagrees and he risks everything in terms of his power (and his party?). I believe however big things are on saturday, it *may* not shift him (though i think it still could), but crucially can influence other international leaders. It's easier for the French & Russians (as unlikely as some may argue that is, given their oil hungry nature + their pre-war iraqi contracts would become worthless with the 'new regime') to oppose Bush & Blair if they can say that the B's own people are against what they are doing. On not a lighter, but certainly very entertaining note, if you have a PC that can do sound, all you need is a 56Kmodem and the free Real player to watch if you missed it/again the Bremner Bird & Fortune special "Between Iraq and a Hard Place " http://www.channel4.com/news/home/z/special_reports/iraq_hard_place/index.ht ml It really is rather rather good. You can even download the programme's script LAST DEMO. Hmmm. well i got many mails of people, many of whom i'm confident will be out on saturday. Won't you? There was a lot of talk of how representative the ? 300,000 was in London in September... The sini-posse was only 3: myself, Stefano & Rachel, along with some other friends of mine. Was on one level disappointing. Apart from that it was a truly wonderful day and demonstration of what we felt. BAPPS-FRUITLOOP MATRIMONY i'm pasting this from the sinisterfitba list (apologies to them) "All should check out the Rapps/Bapps wedding site for the photos, the link was in ben's sinister post. the 1958 fa cup final man u shirt is evident in a kind of waistcoat stylee. My lady persuaded me not to turn up in my '82 European Cup villa shirt (so as not to take away from the groom). this also meant i didn't look very silly, in a ridiculously underdressed way, just relatively scruffy. i didn't know he was wearing a spiffing suit too! when asked if i minded if she added some colour to her hair m'lady got the same 'best not to detract form the bride' (joke) answer. i think if you've seen the snaps you'll know this wasn't possible :) Rach looked amazing, and ben too actually, very smart. how many hearts broke across the sinister world that day...? i also have a photo of ben drinking out of the bubble bath trophy that i showed you ken, and off course the Sinister card (aaaaaaah) pictures - nice! Delighted to say proceedings were halted again shortly after the best man's speech, for bappsy boy to explain about the card including 'the singer and chief songwriter of belle and sebastian's' message (and many our ours :) bless!" It really was a most marvellous day, and i was honoured to get the chance to go, and deliver the card so many had signed in London. What a couple of really excellent people. I'm spending lots of my life trying to organise an OT placement out there (LA) for a couple of months in April. Aside from the fact of being somewhere sunny, beautiful, seeing my lovely relatives and the lovely Bapps & Rapps, there is a small matter of the lovely lady i fell for last year. It would be nice to be on the same continent for a wee while. It would be nice to see how that worked. just to know. you know? Should have got her to enter the Reporter comp. would have got her over here at least. Congrats to big Stu, i'm sure it'll be a great experience for him. I should write a whole load more about the wedding. go see http://www.members.aol.com/benandrachelapps/weddinghome.html if you didn't before. I think there was a suggestion the card (or at least Struan's bit) should be scanned in for the archives?) FOOTBALL + FOOTBALL (PLAYING + PRETENDING NOT TO WATCH) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sinisterfitba is the home of london-ish sinister football playing, the season (good weather) is nigh :) please join us for fun & frolics, and yes you've guessed it, jumpers for goalposts. >"Kewell as a Cucumber" >It was nice to see Australia finally beat England at something other than >cricket, tennis... hmmmmmmmmm. well i suppose it must be harder following Bertie's boys for you lot form North of the border... >[Is it true that the Sun's headline was "Kanga Poo"?] my recent tube journey home did entail someone falling asleep with what i think was said evil rag on them, and it did indeed have that headline on the back. which reminds me of an incident at Uni yesterday. (i'm doing the Occupational Therapy training part time). In discussing disabilities (and whether it is the impairment or society that does that dis-abling), the lecturer asked something like 'how do we stop prejudice?'. Without thinking i chipped rather loudly 'Burn the Daily Mail'. (I'm sure i heard about a demo outside the newspaper very recently). Today I noted fellow studes reading + passing round said pinnacle of liberal grounded journalism. ho hum. i think this is far more than enough. if you made it this far, i thank you most kindly. If you happen to be in a position to dole out US visas, let me know. SO. SAT 15th FEBRUARY 2003. ARE YOU PART OF HISTORY? love jim PS isn't Ken a talented song swindler. First Ian's last year, now Ken's. Maybe i've missed other politco-corruptions too. PPS Happy belated honeybirthday PPPS oh yeah. (literal (quite literally) CONTENT!!!!!!!!) I'm told B&S are mentioned in a feature in the current London Time Out (Make Love not War 'loveheart' on the front). Not a lot, just Mick saying the usual about the Brits Award re B&S unknown/tabloids/etc. (article about the Awards). Will get a copy + post it if anybody wants? (apologies to any (like me) digestees, if this hits yr mailbox after saturday/too late. i will hand my work in on time in future.) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Fri Feb 14 09:29:38 2003 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:29:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Corrections and Clarifications Message-ID: Hello All, Yeah! What Jim and Stefano said. And what Struan M says www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home There's a great article here http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,894448,00.html about all the action that is taking place around the world. And there's a map of the Glasgow march route so anyone who fancies stalking B&S while doing their bit for world peace can pop along and follow the trail. Sadly, I can't go on the march this Saturday. My girl doesn't do crowds, so I have contented myself with signing a petition and joining the Stop the War Coalition here www.stopwar.org.uk/ Anyway, enough of all that. Happy Valentine's Day, you legion of bedroom saddo devotees. I trust you're all listening to Hefner and wearing black on the outside. I myself am breaking from the time honoured indie tradition of downing valium whilst listening to the first Suede album. Instead, I shall be meeting my girlfriend for a sweaty game of ping pong at the gym. I might read a bit of Oscar Wilde and think about BEAUTY and ART before that though, just to even it up. I've a point to correct the Llew on. She said: Don't trust Miss Maddie Minx for a second about her being busy with schoolwork. I know for a fact that whe she says "I have to spend all day on the computer typing my paper" she means "I have to spend all day being distracted from my paper by googling old boyfriends." Now, this is a COMPLETE lie. I only googled for ex boyfriends once. Twice. (And in the process, decided only to go out with people with unusual names in the future. Have you any idea how many people are called D***d L***s? Millions!). And I only did my stalker googling when I'd done like a whole hour of other work. So, take that back Laura Llew. And, of course, it was Mum's birthday yesterday. Happy Birthday Honey! Due to some minor confusion on my part, the real paper and ink card is still in my handbag, but I'll sort it out soon. I urge you all to do the same. Oh, and come back Honey. I miss you and your innocence ways. Who am I meant to corrupt now? Big rah rahs and congratulations to Mr and Mrs Ben and Rachel Apps. The photos are wonderful, though I am a little disappointed to see that Ben has dropped the habit of wearing Urban Decay glitter eyeshadow for big occasions. No content. But I'm not sorry. Much love, Madeleine _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Fri Feb 14 15:59:28 2003 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunny set) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:59:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: what's the point? Message-ID: I know I have left this a bit late but I was just wondering if anyone else will be going to the Glasgow antiwar rally tommrow? If so please get in touch and we can try to arrange to meetup. Stefano and Jim both gave very good reasons why they are going to the rally in London so I don't think I will say much more. I think instead I will show you this. It was written by a friend and has nothing to do with antiwar rallies or anything, but it does sort of sum up the reason I have decided to go: "This is why we stay alive. Think about it. It's not what we've done, it's what we might do, it's not where we've failed, it's where we might at last succeed, it's not the previous page in the book that holds the beauty and the hope, but the next page. You get the picture... Of course, like life, your decision might be influenced by what has happened, what you have read, before. But it's the looking forward, the hope that persists in us all.... That, indeed, keeps the flabby and extraordinary mass of humanity alive. Because without it, what's the point?" so tommorow I shall be looking forward, I shall be beleiving that things can change and I shall proove that I am alive. Take Care Rachel _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Fri Feb 14 17:39:16 2003 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:39:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Give The Game Away Message-ID: <20030214173916.40949.qmail@web40407.mail.yahoo.com> I thought I should do something for Valentine's Day. I stopped in at Woolworth's. I looked at the records. REVOLVER cost �15.99. I thought, I'm not sure I'd pay �5.99. I was going to head on out when 'Take On Me' started. I couldn't leave during 'Take On Me'. I picked up a Spider-Man video and put it down. I wandered across to the Pick&Mix. One day I may have to recount the days when I would lock my bicycle on the edge of the market in autumn's early dusk, wander into another Woolworth's, and under the bright lights pile up a bag of mixed sweets that would cost more than I'd expected. I thought I would pay tribute to such memories for Valentine's Day. I decided to be careful. I only picked one of each sweet, in most cases. Cola fizz bottles. Blue bottles. A monochrome shark. strings of black and yellow, loops of orange and green. A shrimp. A white mouse. A strawberry. Red lips. By the time I'd reached the counter, 'You Spin Me Round (Like A Record)' was finishing. The total cost was 78p. I considered that reasonable. As I walked out on to the street, I put the white mouse in my mouth. It cracked open in an instant of snowblind rapture. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Fri Feb 14 20:02:52 2003 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Caitlin Pigtails) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 20:02:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Being Basil Message-ID: <20030214200252.A18999@candle.btinternet.com> Yes, yes, I know I shouldn't do this. In the past, people have started talking politics on Sinister. It has started flamewars. People got very heated over things, which isn't very nice. If you want to post about politics, there are lots of places you can go to. Find a mailing list for that sort of thing. Start your own website and write about it there. Reread the Sinister FAQ. This isn't - it says - a list for writing pages and pages of politics *even if* every sane person in the civilised world agrees with you. It's also not a list for saying "will anyone else be at [blah blah blah]" tomorrow. Even if you're one of those deluded people who thinks they can change the world by waving a banner about: this still isn't the right place for it. xx caitlin -- "When life gives us lemons, we just sit there and sulk about it, in the corner of the room, in a fetal position." - Matthew Henderson, on the Sinister mailing list. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com Fri Feb 14 20:52:07 2003 From: a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com (a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 20:52:07 0 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Sometimes I lie awake til sunrise Message-ID: <20030214205209.14190.h007.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> Hi Sinister, Happy Valentine's Day to all of you, even though it sucks. But not completely though. Mine was quite alright, for not having an actual Valentine to woe. But still. Our school had this two hour concert for Tibet, it was fun. I got out of my computer class and all, and it was fun to see everyone perform. To be honest, I was dying to perform myself, I so wanted to be the cool rockgirl that everyone falls in love with. But no. Lots of girls singing lots of ballads, some good stuff, this guy rapped and he was brilliant, some nice poetry, a nice drumsolo and some other stuff. Mostly though: LOTS of girls + LOTS of ballads. Hmph. Yesterday, I was home alone, so I had on a t-shirt and knickers and danced around the apartment, miming in fron of the mirror to the v. cool band The Sounds songs. I'd say my performance of their song Riot was the best. I ended up lying on the floor, and then in other various cool rockclichéposes. It was one helluvanevening, i tell ya. But it was sort of fun, i guess. I'm still coughing like hell. It's really annoying. Especially at night, when I wake up and lay in my bed like coughing non-stop for half an hour and stuff. And it's not nice when you wanna cough all the way through all the ballads in the schoolshow. It's like a mental game. Slow song = big need for coughing. Loud song where no one would notice = feelin' swell. Turns out I'm not going to New York. Or that exchange-student-thing to Seattle for four months. Fuck no. It costs a fortune, apparently. Duh. I miss New York even though I've never been there. But listening to Jesse Malin sort of is New York to me. Yours truly intended to go to an anti-war in Iraq-demonstration tomorrow. But I probably won't since I'm so sick. It's a shame though, I've been planning to go for ages. The most exciting thing that happened today, was that I got to sit behind my crush for two hours, plus my favourite teacher accidently put his hand on my thigh (it really was an accident and we were both sort of embarrassed, so don't go thinking he's some old perv or something, he really is the cooles teacher ever) for like a second. Oh my GOD. That was the most exciting thing about my day. OH MY GOD! I think I might write a novel. I've started one. But I really want to write a good novel and be good at something. My music sort of sucks sometimes. I'm not so good at the guitar and I've been playing for two years now. I love it, but people give me more praise for my writing (thank you all you sweet sinisterians who keep sending sweet e-mails to me, encouraging me to keep on writing) so maybe I'll stick to that for a while. Or drawing and painting. Oh well. Hope you all feel better than I do. I suspect that I have coughed out every single piece of my body, so I'm just some sort of empty shell. Ewww..! Now that's gross. I take it back. In real life, I can't control what I say, so mostly I walk around making an arse of myself in front of people who I like, but on the internet you can push the "<---"-button and avoid saying stupid stuff. But I don't like to, somehow. I just prefer being uncensored or something. I'm sorry about that, though. Love, snow, and coughings Astrid x Reporter: Spit or swallow? Craig N: I like all birds. I think the eagle is my favourite. Aaaaaaw. That's just too sweet. Hee hee hee. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stvirar at xxx.com Sat Feb 15 04:13:50 2003 From: stvirar at xxx.com (Saint Virar) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 20:13:50 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Hello Sinistereens Message-ID: Well I was just let out of the nursery a week or so ago and thought I would try out my new-found privilege of posting to the list. Am feeling a bit wary of saying the wrong things - our list mum having successfully instilled in me a proper sense of theoretic decorum. I've little experience with mailing lists and none with list abuse, though from limited experience in some music-related chatrooms a few years ago I can see the horrific possibilities. I've enjoyed reading all the postings of late, and all of you seem to be thoughtful and articulate folks. I am somewhat isolated as a fan of B&S, more than a handful of years away from a bungled foray into higher education (I was, indeed, happy for many days in 1975), recently hitched and recently a father. So it is nice to connect in some way with other people who like this music. I've this sort of attraction or resonance with things Scottish, and there is a reason or basis of this that I may want to share in the future. And this basis was anticipated by other small tragedies, like the time I traded "Thick as a Brick" for something to smoke... On recommendation from NPR here in the States I bought "The Great Eastern" and through some sort of online perusal discovered B&S and heard them courtesy of napster. And now a fan... And that's enough for now... Arin PS Even as an American I am cannot understand my government's warmongering. It is truly saddening and sickening. Be vigilant. Guard the mind against negative thoughts. - The Buddha _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From thecatswillknow at xxx.it Sat Feb 15 08:26:39 2003 From: thecatswillknow at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?q?Francesca?=) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:26:39 +0100 (CET) Subject: Sinister: still you talk soft Message-ID: <20030215082639.98774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> hi there, i'm feeling a bit out of time these days... you know when a minute lasts a hundred years and a week just few second... as for everything else happpening to/in my mind in this period i give all the fault to my nasty cold... i'm making a mixed tape, it's a bit sadder than the expected, but i'm not sure it'll survive the morning. i'm stuck in my room to study because it seems i'll have THE exam on tuesday...but being my sense of time not working i'm not realizing that i have few days left, so i'm not worried at all, except in some brief moments in which i become conscious of it and the panic starts... today a lovely thing happened to me: i received a letter from a childhood friend and it was almost six years i didn't get in touch with her. i was surprised and really happy...it was totally unexpected and it made my day (unexpected things are the ones i love most:)) byebye francesca ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeremy at xxx.uk Sat Feb 15 20:05:42 2003 From: jeremy at xxx.uk (breams) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 04:05:42 +0800 Subject: Sinister: These people are excited by their cars Message-ID: <007201c2d52d$9f954640$e94d5bcb@byways1> Um, hi... I went to see the go betweens tonight and as expected they were superb. It was a balmy evening, as per usual, but that didn't stop us dancing up a very small amount of storm activity. In fact, our rapturous applause was sufficient in its volume and longevity to entice them back for 3 encores. Really, can I ask for anything more of an evening? There was a guy there dancing and trying to sing along without knowing any of the words. To my bleary eyes he was a dead ringer for Mr Casarotto, just 10 years older. For most of the time his gawky dancing and open mouthed bah-bahing made him look like a goldfish on speed (though come to think of it perhaps a goldfish would've looked a little less awkward). Actually, these last few days have seen a plethora of gigs in Perth, although most of you will probably not understand the enormity of there being a decent gig in this hum-drum town, let alone multiple. We get so few bands touring here and have such poor talent in the 'local scene' that even a passable act with something more to offer than indie-rock-standard-issue-angst-ridden-four-piece material is received like a godsend. So seeing the go betweens & spoon tonight and idlewild last night was perhaps more fulfilling than should be expected. In other news, valentines day happened. *scowls at the 'happy couple' people* I hate valentines day. Everyone is so damn chirpy and smug. I think there should be a day celebrating everyone who's too [insert shortcoming here] to be in a relationship. Maybe I'm just overly bitter, but there's certainly something about getting sympathy valentines from friends and family that smarts a tad. In my next life I'm going to boycott all celebratory days other than birthdays. No more christmas! No more valentines day! No more bloody australia day! But I guess I'll just have to make do with going on festivity alert. Whenever a festive occasion is nearing I'll use my traditional strategy of total anti-social behaviour. Which usually amounts to sitting in my room and mentally scowling at the rest of humanity, or eating far too many sweets and feeling ill for hours. Either way, the end result is one seriously grumpy bastard. Anyways, my minute(s) on this virtual soapbox are over. I certainly hope the next speaker uses their time to greater effect. Pleasantries and all that. Jeremy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Sat Feb 15 20:52:41 2003 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:52:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: The Walk Message-ID: <20030215205241.56109.qmail@web40407.mail.yahoo.com> The cold of the morning. The streets of Clive Bell and John Sutherland. The Daily Mirror placards. NO WAR, over a soldier hunkered in the desert. It doesn't make quite as much sense as it could. Still I admire their courage: more than did the many others who carefully, disdainfully rip the newspaper's name from the placards, and carry them thus adjusted. Chanting is a lost art. 20 years ago we would cry "Maggie Maggie Maggie: Out Out Out" - and so on. I tried that today, if only as a scarcely-earned comment on the poverty of the contemporary chant. I didn't get beyond the first line. The best chanters I heard were singers, or rappers, of a kind, parallel to Green Park. They had rhythmic and melodic invention, and seemed to invent their sometimes obscene numbers on the spot. Elsewhere, a pair of girls would start shouting '1-2-3-4: we don't want your fucking war' only under the cover of one of the general waves of noise that would sweep up and down the lines for nearly no reason. Elsewhere again, a lass singing 'Blair the Bomber: can we stop him? Yes, we can', over and over again, aparently oblivious to the rest of the world's refusal to join in. All of this is a deficit. The noise you could make on a protest used to be a major part of its meaning, a royal road to solidarity. That goes for singing too. There was little of either today, on any grand scale. The whistle has taken over, feeling like a shred of club country culture descended to the political streets. Compensation for the sonic deficit: the visual surplus. Certain banners pre-formed: I spent most of the day with a generic bloodstained 'NO'. But so many, so many had coined and made their own. MAKE TEA NOT WAR PEAS NOT WAR WAR <--> TERRORISM, a vicious circle LIBRARIANS SAY SSHHHH, STOP THE WAR NICE BUSH / NASTY BUSH I LIKE MY BUSH BETTER THIS WAR IS UNJUSTIFIED, IMMORAL, FUTILE AND ILL- CONSIDERED (actually I forget the last adjective) I'LL FIGHT CRIME, BUT I WON'T FIGHT IRAQ (carried by... Batman) WAR: NEVER. PEACE: CLEVER. POETRY: FOREVER On screen they look poor enough things. I have forgotten better ones. But to walk back down the line, away from Hyde Park, towards the lights of the Ritz, and see thousands and thousands more still coming past you in the opposite direction, their textual idiosyncrasies as good as infinite, their spirits still high after 3 or 4 hours' walking, their diversity natural, their unity real, their rolling extent phenomenal -- this was among the great political sensations of my life. The overspill and spread of the approach to Hyde Park. The pretty girls in long coats and woolly hats. Speakers, several thousand people away: on screens like Sting or Rod. Relatively anonymous organizers: generalities: 'we're here because we want Tony Blair to listen to us... you should be proud of yourselves: we're proud of you'. Ramblers, people who seemed to trail into irrelevances when handed the microphone. And more familiar faces and voices. Harold Pinter: the anarchists around me pricked up their ears; something felt historic about this intervention. His sentences were barked and sharp and frequently overstated: 'The United States is a monster which has got out of control'. His 'poem' is a mere off-the-chest rant. His one word for Tony Blair, perhaps a joke on 'education', was 'Resign, resign, resign'. Still, he'd known how to catch a moment's drama. Bianca Jagger didn't; Mick Jagger would have been better. But Ken Livingstone: this was another of those episodes not to be forgotten. All these years of compromise and accommodation and, allegedly, cynicism; all the years of back-biting and briefing against him. But he spoke the best on the day, and it came from as near the heart as I need. He spoke like a real politician, a man who's trained for years in speaking to crowds. He pushed buttons to make whistles blow. He spoke as Mayor of London, 'proud to welcome the biggest demonstration to be held in Britain in 2,000 years'. (Really?) He said the cops had told him the march was a million strong, which meant you could double it. And he spoke at times like the Livingstone of old, like it was 1985 - a trick of the light and air, but also many truths in there. Standard wisdoms of the left, about Western hypocrisy over its past relations with Iraq; memories of Tony Benn taking that stand many years ago; outright ad hominem hostility to Bush. You or I could knock out this stuff. Hearing the Mayor of London do it was something else. A lunatic rushed on to complain about congestion charges. Ken paused a moment, then remarked that it was nice to be able to walk through London for once. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Sun Feb 16 00:29:12 2003 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 00:29:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: new puritanism Message-ID: ********************************************************************* INK POLAROID This is my friend and I standing in Sheffield Station � I�m the shorter one, wearing jeans and a yellow t-shirt � he�s much taller, also wearing jeans and a black hole hooded top (as in Courtney Love�s old band, not the things in space), I can�t stand hole, incidentally, he knows this but we don�t talk about it much, I�ve often wondered, and I�m sure he has too, quite how we�re able to tolerate each other�s wildly different musical tastes (actually they�re not all that different in the grand scheme of things, but in the rarefied world of indie they�re miles apart). We both look a bit bored and annoyed I suppose, this is partly because we�ve been waiting for people to arrive for ages � they�re very late, we were told on the phone that they�d be here in twenty minutes time, but that was over an hour ago, and while I think we both appreciate that British Rail minutes are just that little bit longer than regular ones, we didn�t expect it to take quite this long at all. We aren�t speaking much, having pretty much exhausted topics of conversation � we�ve been together nearly all day and by now we just want our friends to arrive and bring new things to talk about, and so that we can leave too. Rush hour is just taking hold, you can�t see outside because the camera is facing the wrong way, but if you could then you�d notice that the roads are full of rushing headlights tearing up the rain-slick roads - but all around us hundreds of people are flowing back and forwards, getting on trains and getting off trains � all sorts of people, schoolchildren, business people, families, alone, in groups, in couples � I always think it�s fascinating to see people just going about their business like this, hearing tiny snippets of their conversations, little fragmentary windows into their lives. I like the ones that look purposeful best I think, perhaps because they have that real dynamism that I sort of lack � complete conviction � of course they probably don�t and I�m just projecting, but it�s nice to think that maybe somebody does. Anyway I also look a bit annoyed, or perhaps a bit puzzled is more accurate because I�ve just turned to my friend and told him that I could spend hours in stations just watching people, because it�s really interesting just seeing them to-ing and fro-ing, basically what I just told you up there and he replied �I don�t know, they all seem pretty boring.� Just like that. And so I�m standing there next to him thinking that maybe we don�t have so much in common after all. ********************************************************************* I realise that is somewhat after the fact, more than a week late even, but my dog ate the first copy, then the computer crashed and then I had a dental appointment Miss. Honest. An update on my last post now, as promised. After mulling things over for a wee while I�m afraid I opted for the cowardly option and said nothing. I even ran home for the whole of last week, but now that I�m back things seem to have calmed down a bit, so I suppose it�s ok. My apologies if you were gunning for me grassing him up, and I know a couple of people sort of were, but to be honest I don�t think, even if he would�ve been chucked out it would�ve made all that much difference, they all seem to be about as bad as each other and the small respite that would have afforded as they reeled from his departure would, I fear, have been short lived and would not have merited the hassle and guilt that telling on him would inevitably have brought on. Or that�s how I�m justifying it to myself anyway, the rest of you are entirely free to make up your own minds. In better news, whilst at home for the week I managed to catch The Delgados live who were pleasant in a straightforward, workmanlike fashion � I don�t think gigs like that are going to win them any new fans, but if you like the songs, and fortunately for the most part I do, then you probably wont be disappointed. It�s a bit disheartening, though, to hear bands play like that, renditions which are as close to the records as possible, it must get very boring playing like that, and it�d be nice to hear a bit of improvisation (not in the serious, eyes shut jazzer way, though that�d be nice in itself, but more in the loosening up and having fun way). Which is sort of what Pram, the other band that I saw that week did and, ok, Pram aren�t nearly as lush as The Delgados, in fact some of their records are pretty out of tune (but far better for it, I think) and they�ve been known to put in some fairly shambolic live performances in the past, but I think they�ve gotten the balance of pretty and fragile about right now, and the new material sounded excellent too. I dunno if they�re touring properly, I think they did another date in London, but if they are and you get the chance, then I�d heartily recommend seeing them. The support acts were fantastic too, though one veered towards that dangerous musical philosophy that says that putting a breakbeat over anything is automatically funny, not the best territory to be on really, though he operated it pretty well � the other on the other hand brought to mind Muslimgauze, if he�d been concerned with the fate of people living in long defunct seaside towns rather than the Middle East. Brilliant. I do have more things to say, but I�ll leave them for another time, I should really get to bed now. Love, - Kieran _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger - fast, easy and FREE! http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heartxdan at xxx.com Sun Feb 16 09:35:27 2003 From: heartxdan at xxx.com (elizabeth trawick) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 01:35:27 -0800 Subject: Sinister: oh my darlin- why did you change? Message-ID: goodness me. has it been so long? it hasn't been long at all, really. to be truthful, i'm looking for sinisters from alabama or somewhere close. i'm planning a picnic and everyone knows picnics are best with music playing and dogs running and nice people so i'd love it if any of you that are within a car ride away from Mobile, Alabama would join myself and a few of my friends in having a picnic on some beautiful day. it will be in a few weeks and we'll definitely have to plan something. any of you from pensacola, fl (i need to make friends from there as i might be moving there this summer!) willing to make the trip or if there is even anyone from mississippi that would like to join us should e-mail me. i'll update anyone that is interested via e-mail outside of sinister. there will be triangle-shaped finger sandwhiches (pb&j, ham, and maybe turkey) made by yours truly, capri suns (unless any of you would like something different), swinging on swings, a nice cd player playing any music i have or any that you would like to bring, and maybe even some frisbee throwing. anyone interested e-mail me at bettybelles at hotmail.com. i hope to have a few replies! xoxo, elizabeth _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From anakin_sky at xxx.net Sun Feb 16 14:05:29 2003 From: anakin_sky at xxx.net (anakin_sky at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:05:29 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Being Basil References: <20030214200252.A18999@candle.btinternet.com> Message-ID: <8684.1045404329@www15.gmx.net> but what is this place right for then? obviously loads of people on this list post about things not related to b&s, and it seems to be okay somehow, because it never feels like b&s are forgotten. people post about their innermost feelings, about what's happened in their lives, about travelling, about tweeness, and all sorts of other things. but never does b&s and music get out of focus in the daily sinister posting routine. so why shouldn't one write about war and about one's personal feelings about this war when it is so present and pressing in people's minds (and it really is just one weekend, the weekend of the demo, where the war is talked about everywhere, whether it's on mailing lists about politics or on mailinglists about music)? why is it okay to read about one person's problems here every day, but not about a million people's problem for one day? and why isn't it okay to get heated over politics when the majority in this country (and other countries) is just one mass of ignorant, consumist, unconcerned dickheads who don't give a shit about politics as long as it's not about increasing the costs of petrol 1p (when they get very heated indeed)? sorry, i don't mean to break any rules or offend anyone. anne. > > Yes, yes, I know I shouldn't do this. > > In the past, people have started talking politics on Sinister. It has > started flamewars. People got very heated over things, which isn't > very nice. > > If you want to post about politics, there are lots of places you can go > to. Find a mailing list for that sort of thing. Start your own > website and write about it there. Reread the Sinister FAQ. This isn't > - it says - a list for writing pages and pages of politics *even if* > every sane person in the civilised world agrees with you. It's also > not a list for saying "will anyone else be at [blah blah blah]" > tomorrow. Even if you're one of those deluded people who thinks they > can change the world by waving a banner about: this still isn't the > right place for it. > > > xx > caitlin > > -- > "When life gives us lemons, we just sit there and sulk about it, in the > corner of the room, in a fetal position." > - Matthew Henderson, on the Sinister mailing list. > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte lächeln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angelas1980 at xxx.com Sun Feb 16 14:49:03 2003 From: angelas1980 at xxx.com (angela smith) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 08:49:03 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Being Basil Message-ID: I, for one, agree. Being in America, I've found it hard to discuss politics/current events with some of my friends, especially my ultra-conservative family. I was under the assumption that this was a mailing list for b&s fans and whatever they may have to say. I'm interested in hearing comments on current events from all over the world. Otherwise I'm just another sheltered, ignorant American who wants to stay in the dark so they can go on with their daily lives.....or the other extreme, which is running out to buy canned food, gallons of water, and duct tape because they believe everything they hear on CNN. I don't think this should turn into a forum for budding politicians and the like, i still want to hear about everyone's new favorite band, who they have a crush on that they're still trying to get the nerve to talk to(me included), and i would cry if i didn't get a ken chu or laura llew post at least once a week cos they make me smile. i obviously don't post that much, but it's something i feel really strongly about, and i wanted to show support for anne. xoxo angela _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Sun Feb 16 20:54:22 2003 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 20:54:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Loneliness of the middle-eastern gunner Message-ID: Hello kidzzzzzz, Haha, when I said kidzzzzzz I didn't imply that you guys are boring. Although it's nice that there is so much Talking About The List On The List activity going on here, which is what the list is all about~ (notice the presence of a Northy Snake just there). Hope the anti-war marches went well, I unfortunately was only able to join a small part of this march due to the need to watch the FA Cup 5th Round matches. I was also hoping to make B&S Anti-War Banners for the marching troopers e.g. "Innocence of the Middle-Eastern commoner" "Get Bush away from here, he's lying" "Fold your hands George, you talk like an ignoramus" "Is it wicked not to Blair?" "The Blair done wrong again" "Bushy's losing it." etc. But I didn't cos the ones I came up with (see above) were pretty shit. I have listened to Dog and Wheels EP today, it was like kissing a long lost lover but without the Glandular Fever. I love you guys. Ken _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Mon Feb 17 01:32:26 2003 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 01:32:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: this thursday! In-Reply-To: <20030215205241.56109.qmail@web40407.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello! Just a short note to say that this Thursday 20th March is this month's How Does It Feel To Be Loved? - so if you're in London and fancy dancing to some classic indie, Motown and northern soul, please come along. The details for the club are: How Does It Feel To Be Loved? is at the Buffalo Bars, underneath Famous Cock Tavern, outside Highbury & Islington tube, London, 9pm-2am, £3 in. Guest DJ is David Callahan of the Wolfhounds. A welcome return. The playlist is: The Smiths * The Supremes * The Go-Betweens * Dusty Springfield * Belle & Sebastian * Tammi Terrell * Aztec Camera * The Ronettes * Orange Juice * Beach Boys * The Temptations * Velvet Underground * Felt * The Shangri-Las * Primal Scream * Otis Redding * The Field Mice * The Stone Roses * Dexys Midnight Runners * The Four Tops * Dolly Parton * The Orchids Our website is at http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk See you Thursday! x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Mon Feb 17 04:32:38 2003 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:32:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the secret sign says your mine, call, i'll give you back your dime yeah References: <1422310271.1045099363@RIVENDELL> Message-ID: <006801c2d63d$9aca6620$3f00a8c0@rogers.net> > apparently a "research seminar" and he uses words like "semiotics" in the > course description, and I don't even know what that is. and that's when i wheeled my rolling chair out of the retirement wing. and said 'semiotics'. kid, semiotics is THE SHIT! that shit is the real truth about devolution. There was this french magazine that said BARTHES IS BACK (in english) accross the front. inside there was a picture of the man himself in his junior years sporting a devilish moustache. the moustache that cleaved who knows which depths of manhood. but can the moustache speak? hi everyone, it's me steve, again. what's scary shit is when i signed up for sinister again i thought...who the fuck will i know? they're all probably different people now..and then all the posts were still about ken chu and i remember everyone from before... ... and so, where have i been? well, after trawling the deepest waters off lisbon for the tasty yet disgusting hag eel i've been everywhere worthwhile etc. and am now back in toronto which is a total torontopia! TORONTO RULES! T!O!R!O!N!T!O! and if you think i'm being naive let me tell you: i have been to stockholm, berlin, amsterdam even the elite and trendy magdenburg (they invented the vaccum...the town council worships a lack, absence is their primary civic virtue...their city center looks like an amon dull albumcover it's totally fucked) yeah, it's all about helsinki and toronto. the two new capitals of cool. yeah, we had a wild ukranian new years party at my house back in january and everyone had to wear moustaches. we even sold them at the door and refused entry to all who came without their own and refused to adopt one...the moustache...if my shitty asian genes could even generate such a fine face animal i'd be able to die happy...i think of dieter meier of yello, the giant slug that slumbers on his upper lip, signifying his worldly swiss nature, the twix commercials, the power. the moustache is completely polyvalent, it resonates...if the lips are a kind of fold in the face then the moustache is a kind of topographical abnormality, a genuine possibility of revolt/deviance realised in hair. i got so drunk that i fell from the ceiling onto a post and got kicked out of my own party into the snow...then more computer keyboards were smashed and i snuck back in and drank more vodka... and then yesterday i did the protest thing. we went as a band and sang and marched and justin from do make joined and then we did some huggybear songs and it was all protesty and the snot in my throat froze and my voice got hoarse and then i collapsed. the best thing about valentines day was that it happened just before a massive march. yeah. just like dogs that bark just to bark i love yelling. nothing suits me more. and all the v.day angst...sheesh...why even mention it? like kids, please, is this the smiths email list? shit, the best thing about belle and sebastian is the unfettered sense of freedom that permits the never ending naps and cruddy student lifestyle etc. not the crushing whinging about the same...your nap IS your power, your lack of social skills IS your grace...the nap is the fold in the time fabric of the standard working day. therefore YOU = THE MOUSTACHE (when you nap). is that clear? is anyone from sinsiter currently in berlin? i have a desperate favour to ask. please respond. xo s te ve nn +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Mon Feb 17 05:37:27 2003 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:37:27 +0700 Subject: Sinister: Go Go Go-Betweens! Message-ID: hi, As Jeremy mentioned The Go-Betweens played in Perth on the weekend. They were simply stunning. Grant was looking as cute and charming as ever, and Robert is pure charisma and has the sexiest eyebrows in rock. They played a nice spread of songs from all of their old albums, and a few new ones too (the new album promises to be fantastic). Here is a jumbled up setlist with at least 5 songs missing: Caroline and I Ms Morgan Magic in Here Surfing Magazines Bye Bye Pride The Clock Was There Anything I Could Do? Spring Rain German Farmhouse The House the Jack Kerouac Built Head Full of Steam Cattle and Cane Love is a Sign And good news for all you Glaswegians, The GoBetweens are nexy playing in Glasgow on April 25. Go and see them! Thanks to my one true love's Amy and Alex, and to Jay for organising things. You are all dreamy. As is Gina (late presents are always the best!). take care, terry --- here's what i think: http://naivetysucceeds.blogspot.com caitlin and terry's sinister recipe tree archives: http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/sinifood/ _____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Mon Feb 17 09:52:32 2003 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:52:32 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: the clock turns and it's now Message-ID: I'm not sure that I've ever wished myself in Perth before, but I would have loved to see the Go-Betweens at the weekend. If any band can take a mind off impending war then it might be the Go-Betweens. Like Belle & Sebastian, it's music that can stir hearts and soothe souls. On Friday I walked home listening to B&S. The sun was shining, I was going to make risotto. The small pleasures seem so important these days. The sound of that sweet voice going 'laa lalala lalala lalalaalala' was enough to make me cry. I feel entirely entitled to mention this unwanted, terrifying war, incidentally - did anyone complain about 'list abuse' on Spetember 11th 2001? No. There are some things which - even here - are more important than B&S, for one day at least. 1.5 million people marched through London, along with many thousands more across the world, in the name of peace - why the hell should that go unmentioned? It's not just politics, it's our lives. Celebrating Valentine's Day felt slightly self-indulgent, considering. So the best tune for the day seemed to be Doris singing 'Did you give the world some love today baby'... I'm reading Hidden Agendas by John Pilger at the moment, a book to make you sad, angry, shocked at how little of the truth about the world we really get from our 'free' media. Read it. And, ok, I still fret about putting on weight and having no money, I still hanker after nice shoes and Belgian buns. I'm not scared that I won't see tomorrow. I feel happy and lucky most of the time and can, rightly or wrongly, forget. So I'm still remaking websites and still writing poetry and wanting other people to write too (see below). AND I'm still having a picnic in Brighton on Saturday 1st March, and you're still all invited to get pissed and eat fish and chips and paddle in the sea and inspect the collapsed remains of the West Pier. Please come! 'Love goes on anyway.' Archel xxx ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com Mon Feb 17 12:36:59 2003 From: paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com (Paulo Stinsoni) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:36:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Poorly Message-ID: Hello all, It's taken me three attempts to get to this compose window, and I'm missing the keys, and pressing two at a time and it's taking ages, all because I have flu. There are people a lot worse off than me all over the worldd, but I'm not going down that political path, oh no. I am just here begging for sympathy. I do get a little bit from my girlfriend (still haven't asked her to marry me yet - check out an old message, dunno which one, but it's stored somewhere in this magical sinister internetty world)), but I can see it's beginning to grate, with me tossing and turning and sweating and coughing and sneezing and wheezing. So, anyone out there in innernet land want to stroke me with their sympathy, feel free. I am a sympathy craving useless with a sore nose and an unshaven face. Go on, give me an "Ahh, never mind, you'll get well soon, you poor thing" Thanks Paulo _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Mon Feb 17 11:54:38 2003 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:54:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: this thursday! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I mean February of course! This very Thursday in other words... *slaps forehead* > From: Ian Watson > Reply-To: Ian Watson > Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 01:32:26 +0000 > To: > Subject: Sinister: this thursday! > > > > Hello! > > Just a short note to say that this Thursday 20th March is this month's How > Does It Feel To Be Loved? - so if you're in London and fancy dancing to some > classic indie, Motown and northern soul, please come along. > > The details for the club are: > > How Does It Feel To Be Loved? is at the Buffalo Bars, underneath Famous Cock > Tavern, outside Highbury & Islington tube, London, 9pm-2am, £3 in. Guest DJ > is David Callahan of the Wolfhounds. A welcome return. > > The playlist is: > > The Smiths * The Supremes * The Go-Betweens * Dusty Springfield * Belle & > Sebastian * Tammi Terrell * Aztec Camera * The Ronettes * Orange Juice * > Beach Boys * The Temptations * Velvet Underground * Felt * The Shangri-Las * > Primal Scream * Otis Redding * The Field Mice * The Stone Roses * Dexys > Midnight Runners * The Four Tops * Dolly Parton * The Orchids > > Our website is at http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk > > See you Thursday! > > x > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Mon Feb 17 11:07:56 2003 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:07:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: What is it good for? Message-ID: <20030217110756.61074.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> Caity Pig, have you been at the Buckfast again? Stewpot Mudcock himself talks of marching. Look, it’s right here at the top of the News page: http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/ I put it to you, then, that talking about marching on this list is C*O*N*T*E*N*T, innit? So, anyway, for the first time since the heady days of the Criminal Justice Act (nee Bill), I dragged myself out of bed for a spot of protesting. Well, it was such a nice day, wasn’t it? Jim will be pleased to hear that we managed a sinigroup of five: Nick Dastoor, Paul Field, Sally Moore, Ally Cook and myself. There may have been more, but it was hard to spot people you knew amongst the thousands - half way along we looked up the hill and all we could see was people, then down the hill and all we could see was people. I hope Rachel found some company – I didn’t read her email until this morning. The previous night, we went to see the lovely Camera Obscura at Hyndland Church Hall. I will now attempt a list of people who were there. I will inevitably miss somebody so if it’s you, I apologise in advance. Here goes: Lily Cook, Miss Sally Moore, Mr Paul Gingerfox, NumNal, Patrick Municipool, Ms Stacymite, Richard of Beckingham, IdleSecy, Quiff Richard, Mobile Matt, Starfire Dave, Michael G, Big Stu, Katrina, Sarah D, Mistopher Chris and Mrs Julia and, of course, the lovely Miss Carey Lander, who has miraculously transformed from the shy wee thing in this picture (http://www.missprint.org/sinister/people/CareySmile.html) into a vixtrel of stunnery in her red pencil skirt, lacy knee-highs and pointy polka dot shoes, wrinkling her forehead at us from behind her keyboards. And the King of Partick was magisterial. Those of you who like some content to fill out your sinisandwich might be interested to know that the following members of your favourite band were present: Sarah, Stuart, Stevie, Bob and Chris. Whoops, I just typed Christ by mistake. The music was great with lots of new songs and, as far as I know, nobody recording the loveliness (!!!) The restriction on the number of people was ridiculous but gave the thing a feel of exclusivity to those of us on the inside and there was crazy dancing in the aisles which I think was due to the Church Hall’s BYO rule, a sure-fire way to drink rather a lot, eh? In other news, what a surprise to see Steve Kado back! He remains the only Sinisterine I have ever dreamt about. I think this is the namedroppiest post I have ever written. Juicy Lucy ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ ************************************************** The Winchester Club http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Mon Feb 17 14:03:42 2003 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:03:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Happy Birthday MMM! Message-ID: The other day I was trying to remember which one of my friends had bought her boyfriend a copy of Zen and The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance only to be shown up by one of her friends buying the boyfriend something a yillion times more expensive and grand. Then I realized it wasn't a friend - it was an episode of Will & Grace. Due to illness my cognitive processes aren't all they're cracked up to be (or rather they are all they've cracked up to be) so I won't try and make this a long post. However, I did want to send out public birthday greetings to Sinister's Beloved Minx - Miss Maddie who turns 24 today. Since I can't use my memory or good nature (what good nature?) as a resource I shall turn to my Wonder Woman Miss Maddie Minx quote book to find reasons wisdom from our own MMM. Church: "Oh, you shouldn't be going to Church. THere's no telling what kind of people you'll meet there." Christmas: "Why can't these people see that Christmas is not about gifts, it's about drinking and insulting one's blood relations?" Parents: "My mother is OK. She looks like my dad beat her up, but he would never do a thing like that... he's too busy working. Facial Features: "I'm so asymetrical I look like Phil Oakley's hair do." This is just an introduction because one day I plan to complete my collection, publish it, and make you all pay full price for it. However, don't worry because it will come with a free Minx Doll which will make the entire effort worthwhile. In other news: I didn't protest, I didn't see the Go Betweens, and I didn't see Camera Obscura while dancing beside Stuart Murdoch trying to slip a "valentines" in his pocket. However, I have been moping around being sickly while listening to Casiotones For The Painfully Alone wishing it was Belle & Sebastian's Rollercoaster Ride on but too lazy to change the CD so that must count for something. Love & birthday kisses, Laura _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Mon Feb 17 17:44:48 2003 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:44:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Look at me, I'm on TV... Message-ID: [This message edited on request from the author and Banchory Management] Well, as some of you may be aware, I spent two days last week in the company of a certain band. Sorry if anyone's jealous, I just got lucky... Anyway, here's some mammoth Reporting Back for you! Chapter 1: Thursday morning, 13th February. Way too early in the morning. The flight Katrina booked me onto left East Midlands airport at ten past seven. So I'm half asleep when I get to Glasgow and am introduced to Blair, who is producing the DVD. Still, it could be worse - Sarah's had no sleep at all on an overnight flight from New York. So we're both delighted to be filmed walking across the airport car park, and interviewed about our history of B&S fandom on the drive into town (well, once we've managed to find our way out of the car park at least). After coming out with some vaguely coherent answers, we get to the hotel in the middle of the city. Of course, it's still too early to get into our rooms, so a healthy (?) breakfast is called for, while we talk about what the next couple of days has in store; the first surprise comes when we are told that Stuart M wants to be interviewed in the bath... Our cameraman, Jim, and director, Blair, go out to film some background shots of the city, and Sarah & I head upstairs to relax. At about this time I start to feel a bit embarrassed about having under three pages of questions written down as preparation, whilst Sarah has printed off copies of every interview the band have done EVER. At lunchtime, Katrina turns up at the hotel, and we all go to get some sandwiches. Time to get down to business. We drive round to the band's rehearsal room, where Mick, Richard and Chris are trying out all sorts of technical stuff which I don't understand to get the demos of their new songs finished. We leave them to it. An hour or so late, Richard is finally finished and ready to be our first interviewee. Chapter 2: Thursday early afternoon - with Richard. The first interview is to take place in the front room of Blair's flat. The lights and cameras are set up, the three of us are miked up, and Katrina makes the tea. Well, it got her out of the office for the day, she may as well make herself useful. I won't bore you with all the technical details of filming an interview, suffice to say that Richard clearly knew what he was doing, and Sarah & I didn't have a clue. So we just did what we were told and let them get on with it. Richard is Mr Chatshow. Very comfortable being interviewed, and very good at it - we just asked an inane question and he's talk for a couple of minutes answering. He talked about his favourite B&S material (Tigermilk, because of the innocence and the way it was recorded in just 5 days) and his least favourite (If You're Feeling Sinister, because the sound wasn't what they wanted). He talked about the new material, and how optimistic he is about it. The band are taking a couple of weeks off now, before going down to Oxfordshire to start recording the new album. Earlier in the week they'd spent a day recording demos of the new songs, and apparently they're sounding great. Other answers were as expected (he enjoyed the night out at the Brits, he loves playing gigs, etc). Oh, and once the filming was over, he admitted off-camera that he does gurn on stage, mainly because he's trying to remember what comes next in the song. Overall, Richard was very friendly and chatty, and generally a ridiculously nice bloke. And his catchphrase seems to be "I'm only the drummer"... Chapter 3: Thursday late afternoon - with Stuart. One interview done, and we're already about two hours behind schedule. So we're in a bit of a rush to pick Stuart up from his house, drive him to our hotel, do the interview and get him back in time for his football game in the evening. And yes, he wants to be interviewed in the bath. The nicest bathroom available was in my hotel room, so we all piled in there to get set up. Lights, cameras, a TV monitor and lots of wires were installed in the bathroom, and we left Stuart to get ready. Sarah & I sat on the side of the bath behind him; our cameraman Jim filmed the three of us in the bathroom mirror, Blair was sat on the shelf monitoring the sound, and Katrina was also perched on the shelf filming with the small camera. So you can imagine how cramped it was. Of course, about ten minutes into the interview, room service turned up with some food and drinks for us all; with all the wires and talk of Stuart taking his clothes off that was coming out of the bathroom, we're sure she thought we were making a porn flick. Once we'd got our composure back, be got back to the questions, until Stuart had finished shaving. During the interview, Stuart was very open, he answered fully every question we put at him. He came across as very intelligent, articulate and thoughtful - - there may not have been a master-plan involved in the band's progress, but you can be sure each individual stage was thought through. He also thinks Tigermilk is his favourite B&S work, and he also mentioned Jonathan David as being a favourite; and he firmly believes the best is yet to come - they haven't yet made the album they're capable of. Maybe the new album will be the one, who knows? He wasn't happy with the sound of the IYFS album, and he told me later that he'd even considered re-recording some of it, but decided not to as it was a record of a time. In common with Richard and (as we later found out) pretty much everyone in the band, his favourite B&S experience was the gigs they played in Brazil, for the atmosphere, the size of the crowd, the travel, and the memories. The band all believe that the Latin countries are wonderful for playing gigs in, they all enjoy going to Spain to play as well. He's certainly happy that they're more organised now; part of the reason was that when playing to bigger crowds they felt they owed the fans a good show. There were tough times in the band for a couple of years, but they are much better now. I know there's people out there who see a band that has lost a couple of members, left their record label and not released much recently, and think the band are nearing the end of the line; well from talking to the band members and Stuart in particular, I'm certain now that their future is looking better than ever. Certainly he took the lead in getting the band together in the first place, pursuing people for weeks to persuade them to join. One thing where he doesn't take control is in the cover versions the band play on stage - he genuinely respects Stevie in particular for being able to play and sing so many songs, when Stuart can't even remember the words to ones he wrote himself. We could easily have spent a lot longer interviewing Stuart, he always had plenty to say. There wasn't time to talk about his faith, or to ask about the meanings of any of his songs (except for that "The Boy With The Arab Strap" and "Loneliness Of the Middle-Distance Runner" amongst others are about life in the band). Everything we asked he would answer fully and deeply. He comes across very much as a normal person, but thoughtful and fascinating to talk to. Chapter 3 and a half: Thursday evening. It was already 8pm by the time Stuart left my hotel room to get to his football game, which was quite a bit later than he said he had to be there - which just shows how accommodating he was. Having taken all the equipment down to the car, Sarah, Katrina and me went down to the hotel bar for a couple of pints and chat about everything from the band to international politics. Then a takeaway pizza, and off to catch up on a bit of sleep. Other little tit-bits of information that you may or may not be interested in: Ten minutes or so before each gig, Stuart likes to get the whole band together for a little talk. The pre-show ritual also seems to involve every band member going to the toilet. Not only is Stuart a vegetarian, but he also hasn't drunk alcohol for a year or so. No wonder he's in such good shape. In an attempt to prove that the band aren't twee, we asked Stuart to describe the band's most rock and roll moment. So he told us the story of when Stuart David tried to throw a CD player out of his hotel window. Unfortunately the window wouldn't open far enough so he didn't manage it. Aaah, bless. OK, that's enough for Day 1. I'll be back tomorrow with the second half! Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Mon Feb 17 21:56:04 2003 From: lulou at xxx.org (Linda Kerr) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:56:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Mails discussing the list on the list Message-ID: Hi everyone Hmm. Not sure how to approach this one, except to say that messages to sinister which discuss what can and cannot be discussed on sinister are generally a bad idea, and can and do lead to list implosion. Whoosh. There are 1349 people on this list, and therefore some tolerance is required if the posts are not to your current taste. If you think that the list is being abused, the please mail me, and not the list. I can look into it (I try to read all the posts but sometimes don't) and deal with it then. It is really up to Honey ultimately to manage the list - it has to be - but we try to have a list which most people want and care about, and where people feel safe to post without feeling intimidated. Discussion of non-B&S related topics happens. God knows it happens. :) The list has always been about B&S, the fans and their lives. If you haven't looked at this part of the FAQ, please do, if you can.. http://www.missprint.org/sinister/faq.html#rules Excerpt: "Try and remember this: it's a list for Belle and Sebastian but more importantly about the lives of People Who Listen To Belle And Sebastian...The list goes right when it's lively, funny, interesting, touching, and sometimes even useful. The list goes wrong when people post irrelevancies, not-so-funny "clever" quips, or long discussions take place which would be more suited to another list (like discussions of the relative merits of a band unrelated to B&S). I may step in if we get a long long conversation about something interesting to only a tiny minority of the list(.)" As it was pointed out by Lucy, the situation in Iraq is something Stuart Murdoch has written about on his web site, and it is such a huge international issue I think it would be daft if we did not to talk about it, particularly as it affects our lives. Of course, as with everything, personal flaming is not allowed on the list and as long as discussions do not change the nature of the list, the posts which are funny, or intelligent, or thought-provoking are to be greatly welcomed. As I said, if you think things are getting out of hand in whatever way, let me know. The FAQ is there for guidance. Peace and all that. Linda xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From purpletrousers at xxx.com Tue Feb 18 02:58:34 2003 From: purpletrousers at xxx.com (jim taylor) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 02:58:34 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Content, Content, Content (too may days worth > so long...) Message-ID: ***** Early Tuesday: This has been lurking in my 'drafts' folder so long, its grown and is now in reverse-chronological order. If i didn't worry so much, it might have been a few shorter mails, rather than one big one. No 50 year old quotes this time. I'll quote myself at the bottom instead (2003). I'll avoid the almost tearful self-indulgent rant that i have an urge to splurge. (mmm an urge to splurge, i like that). Not that i hesitate to share my personal issues, far from it, i'd more likely be accused of being *too* open by friends or colleagues. It's just that as others have suggested, sometimes there are MORE important things than my ego-centric life. I half-seriously considered being a human shield this evening for a split-second. If i felt i didn't have a job that's of use to society, or a future more significant role when i complete my training, i might well have felt it the right thing to do, and gone to Baghdad. But that's very very very easy to say. It's harder to acknowledge that that would have been an easy way of getting myself out of a rut i've found myself in. ------------- ***** Sunday: 2nd attempt at sending the Time Out article B&S mention (at the bottom). I wrote this fri night/sat morning pre-UKdemo, and then thought long and hard about sending it. And then left it. And thought some more. Ta for the off list emails. (let's keep 'em there). I'm glad I haven't come to the conclusion i need to sensor myself in my expression of life experience as amongst the many things i am, a belle and sebastian fan, and all that that entails. If you feel this (or any) post is out of place, please let me/whoever know {off list}, but I feel comfortable by the nature of the responses I've had.... I'll only add i read with interest Mr P.Fox's experience of the day. We certainly don't 'give good demo' compared to the Italians or French, but to have a hardcore of activists who might make more of an organised racket diluted by a million plus, well, this is i suppose the entire point. It makes me think what it is to be British. What is my 'national character'? An unhelpful generalising stereotype, but interesting none the less. I'm also stimulated to reflect on my own grammatical laziness in email. what does that reflect? I flicked past a minute or two of stuff about the politicisation of fans by the Manic Street Preachers on TV the other day. It provoked me to wonder if B&S influence people in that way at all. I noted that Caitlin's suggestion implies that members of the band are 'deluded' for going on a demo. As was said to me yesterday, you don't have to agree with a band politically (or how to express/act on any common feeling). But it does interest me, this idea: when do you start/stop being 'into' someone/something for an 'extra-curricular' reason. It reminds me of hearing a US public radio recording of billy bragg doing the 'march of the covert battalions', acknowledging some of the crowd's sing-a-long would be dripping with irony. BB also noting that's what irony does. Drip, that is. Unfortunately Sinister meet ups in London were limited by the sheer logistics of getting anywhere, which was at least a very good reason. (+ there were less people to tut at me & Stefano wandering off for a break in the pub mid march. i guess maybe it was colder in Glasgee, but brrrrrr it "was a bit chilly around the old turntables" as Jimmy Saville allegedly once stated.) (who am i quoting?) I've just deleted an explanation about why i said what i said. It's obvious/repetitive. --- ***** FRI / SAT It's good to hear of sinister/B&S posses - including the band - getting together for demonstrations in different countries & continents. I won't repeat my take on what is appropriate (political) list content http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200209/msg00076.html , though I'd correct an earlier statement, and say B&S's politics *is* one of the reasons I'm a fan. It provokes me to re-consider what it is that draws me to this band, beyond the music. Why i'm on this list, what is it about B&S that draws a thoughtful type of fan? the fact that they have: Belle & Sebastian say "Not In Our Name Mr. Blair!" on the bands news page is something I'm happily comfortable in having come to expect. I find it fascinating, the inextricable link between the expressions of successful intelligent honest bands/musical movements and poltico-ethical awareness, whether it be Billie Holiday's 'Strange Fruit', non-fashion punk, The Smith's 'Meat is Murder', the Clash or Billy Bragg choosing not to make big bucks and sell their records at a fixed low price, etc etc. Artists sometimes express things others don't, provoke others into thinking, and have the sometimes have the media (as in medium-s) to express themselves effectively, as well as access to/influence upon the media. I've also been thinking again of the uniqueness of the B&S/Sinister community, and the trust between us, that for example meant not a 2nd thought to phone calls between strangers yesterday arranging to meet up for what Dean suggested he shouldn't refer to as a demo-nic (!) as that sounds, rather...sinister?!. There's a thing on Radio 4 at the moment about the spirituality of 'walking for peace' internally and externally, and the great traditions of this across cultures, ideologies and religions. The fact that I'll be spending today meeting folk from every race, religion, social and political background (as well as new to me sinister faces!) is exciting to me, and is a part of my life I'm proud of. I'm just really sorry it takes world-threatening events to force me to make the time to be pro-active and post to sinister (and more significantly I apologise for my verbosity in saying what I did). I suppose it reflects the things that draw us together as community, on various levels. Yesterdays UN events to me make today even more important. I'd like not to be paying so much attention to the news everyday, for it to dominate my thoughts less, and for my energies to be devoted towards nurturing inner peace, as my take on the world requires us all to do a little more of this. I'd like to have got in from work and thought of putting on a record rather than the news, but, I suppose this is a reality for all of our lives. ah well. do something pretty + all that. jim x -------- FRI (very early) Time Out London Feb 12-19 2003 Brit young things As the record industry gets set for another night of slurred speeches and showbiz scandal at the Brits, we asked some former participants: 'How was it for you?' "....At least people had heard of Stereo MC's. "Nobody had a clue who we were," laughs Mick Cooke of Scottish indie darlings Belle And Sebastian, who won Best Newcomer in 1999. The tabloids (which repeatedly described the band as a duo) got uptight that an 'unknown' had beaten Steps in the public email vote. "People said it was a scam, but there was nothing to stop people from multiple voting. It's just that Steps' fans probably couldn't use computers". Outraged, the Sun held a revote on a premium phone line and Steps were presented with an award when, inevitably, they won. Meanwhile, B&S had to get used to the media spotlight. Frontman Stuart Murdoch opened his door two days after the ceremony to find journalists camped outside. "We were gonna chuck it in the river at one point," remembers Cooke. "All the papers were saying we'd cheated and we were like 'Aw fuck, it doesn't mean that much to us.' But they quickly realised we weren't much of a story and ignored us just like before." Cooke was one of just two B&S members who went to the ceremony (the tickets cost £400), and he's glad he had the experience. "It was quite enjoyable while it lasted, but it was good to go back to normal again. I think if you couldn't turn that off, it would be pretty hellish." jim ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- "I find it a time of interest, when one picks up a pen and the words just spill out. They were clearly looking for an outlet, their chance to see the world, to breathe, perhaps feels their eyes stung by harsh light, yet are delivered without doubt." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bookworm_trochet at xxx.com Tue Feb 18 04:10:40 2003 From: bookworm_trochet at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?B?RGFzIE3kZGNoZW4gbWl0IGRlciBTY2hlcmUu ?=) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:10:40 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Being Basil Message-ID: <20030218041040.60968.qmail@mail.com> Not that my opinion really matters, but I'll give it anyway: I'm all right with non-B&S related postings, provided that people aren't being vicious, which is hard to avoid when discussing politics. Passing comments, which can then be turned into debates OUTSIDE of the list, don't strike me as being a problem, but if we're going to have to read long posts about nothing but the war in the future, I'm registering my displeasure now. As Caitlin said, there are plenty of other places for that. There's always been a wide spectrum of what this list has been used for. B&S related stuff is always wonderful, but a lot of the "irrelevant" stuff is interesting, too. I love to see what else I have in common with the other Sinisters. And as anakin_sky pointed out, the band is never really forgotten. There's just not a lot to talk about right now. When Storytelling came out and Isobel left, the e-mails from this list were a nightmare to stay on top of for nearly two weeks. When something like that happens again, band-related postings will flood our inboxes. I'm not worried. Well, I've put my two cents in. Before I go, I'll ask a B&S related question to the entire list: What do you suppose the new album will sound like? Yes, I realize no one KNOWS, but make a guess. Personally, I think there will definitely be more Sarah vocals on it and probably more Stevie. I just hope his songs favor "Wandering Alone" as opposed "Chickfactor". The lower he sings, the better he sounds. Stuart, will of course write at least three fabulous songs which will become favorites with all the fans. This is a given. I feel a bit silly even writing it. On the other hand, nothing in life is guaranteed. -Holly -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brasure at xxx.uk Tue Feb 18 14:08:27 2003 From: e.brasure at xxx.uk (Eric Brasure) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:08:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fun! Thrills! Romance! Message-ID: <001901c2d757$3574aa40$73bede8b@joshua> Dearest Sinister, I've been listening to a lot of B&S recently; it's like visiting with an old friend. That feeling of immediately slipping back into a comfortable relationship after having been apart for so long is precious. Also, I like them. I haven't written in aaaages, but I decided to because my three-year Sini-anniversary is coming up soon. Where has the time gone? I remember when you were just a wee thing (actually, I don't) and now you're almost grown up, ready to go out into the big wide world. Brings a tear to my eye, really. 'Course, it could be the tear gas from the militia outside. What do we want? A police state! When do we want it? When the government tells us! Still, I suppose things could be worse. I could be in New York, where they apparently have 2 FEET of snow at the moment. Makes it hard for the troops to keep an eye on us. I was asked out for coffee today by a boy that has hair on the tip of his nose. We all need love though, and besides that, he's not bad-looking. Bad teeth too, but that's endearing in a sort of Britain-of-the-1950s sort of way. I'm not desperate, really. I have a £20 gift certificate to spend at amazon.co.uk. I need suggestions on what to buy... please send them my way. If I choose one, you won't get anything. Unless you're a cute guy. Then you might get a kiss on the cheek. Okay, women too. This was crap. You won't hear from me for five more months, so don't worry. Lurrrrve, Eric +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Tue Feb 18 18:13:43 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:13:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: when i woke up this morning, you were on my mind Message-ID: <20030218181343.7487.qmail@web40614.mail.yahoo.com> So yesterday, whilst at Panera, I saw a gentleman who looked exactly like our very own Ken Chu! Imagine my surprise. To make things better, a very cute boy held the door open for me. It always strikes me when someone opens a door for me, as it seldom happens. I think it is customary for americans to just let the door close behind them with little regard for who may be behind them. Not me. I always open doors for people, help the elderly with their supermarket parcels, that sort of thing. I know that I really like it when someone does something nice for me, so I try to go by that whole golden rule thing. A relatively uneventful weekend. I slept until 2 pm on Sunday....I have NEVER slept that late. Granted, I went to bed round 5 am....I am still usually up by 830 am at the latest. I watched some movies, spent lots o' time on the phone. Like I said, nothing too eventful. Gavin Friday went to the Dublin premier of "Frida" with Andrea Corr. Grr. I am much cooler than Andrea Corr, he should have invited me. I guess I'll have to settle for listening to my newly obtained copy of "Shag Tobacco"...a bloody amazing album by the way. I highly recommend it to all of you. As for my stance on the "SINISTER WAR POSTS" I really don't mind them. Personally, I have mixed feelings on the whole thing. I shan't delve too deeply into politics as I know many of you dislike that, I do think that a US war with Iraq has been coming for ages. People can blame Bush if it makes them feel better, however this war was imminent. The fact that it didn't begin ages ago shocks me. I wouldn't say that I am pro-war by any means. However, what do you do with someone like Hussein? Someone who has no regard for the lives of his citizens, the rules and guidelines set by the UN, all of that stuff? I don't know. I really don't see any point in wars of any kind. It does seem to be the only language that many understand. Unfortunately those are the people who rule the world. Enough of that. Ya know what I have been thinking about a lot lately? How absolutely inadequate the US educational system is. I got an email from DV the other day and he was telling me about Bloody Friday. Until he said this, I had no idea of it. I seem to recall coming across it in a book, but a book I was reading for pleasure. I was in honours courses in school and we never ever learned about the English/Irish conflicts. We never learned anything about the kings and queens of england, back in the day when they did more than throw big ol'concerts. We never studied the Byzantine empire...or the Roman empire really. What a let down. Very often I find myself reading things I feel I should have learned in school. I also was fortunate in that, the school I went to had a lot of money. It is in an affluent area with lots of tax money as well as grants from the state and federal gov't. I can only imagine the education recieved by those in less fortunate schools. insane. This morning the eldest of my charges had to be picked up from school. She is having a gluntenous reaction it seems so we are having a TV day. Nothing too strenuaous. I made some very yummy smoothies and now am going to watch "Snoopy Come Home." "Men marry out of boredom. Women marry out of curiosity. They both end up disappointed." Oscar Wilde ~stine __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Tue Feb 18 21:32:58 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:32:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Groove Analyser Message-ID: Hallo :) (i'm making a mixtape, so please bear with the interruptions) I won't mention the w a r because I am scared of arguments. I do think, though, that the relevance of those seven dancing dwarves Belle and Sebastian to their Sinister mailing list has always been more of a thematic one than one measurable in "content". In fact, I was reading Stuart's Diary today, and he was talking about something else, but I think he sums it up nicely: << I was into Orange Juice and had a passion for them that went beyond simply liking the music. Something about the 'idea' of them. >> The idea. That's the thing. (hold on, i'll just change the cd. pause. eject. that's right) As an example of tangential content, I was going to write a post without any reference to the band at all but it seems I can't help myself. I have to say how much I'm enjoying reading Stuart's Diary. I think that if Stuart was to make an appearance on Sinister wrapped up in disguise like an old washer woman and wrote something about his Youth Club or scrabble and we were none the wiser as to who he was, what he'd be writing is the sort of stuff i'd want to read. I think that, ignoring who he is or why he's famous, the diary's pretty good reading. This is brilliant: << When I'm about to die I'm going to go to a swamp so that I will topple in when the time comes. In 50000 years when they dig me up, pretty well preserved, the scientists will have to work out what sort of life I lead from my bone structure and teeth, and what not. Maybe I'll be clutching a Felt record or something to give them a clue. Well, they'll look at my foot and say 'This man broke a bone and it's healed funny.' And they'll look at the Felt record, analysing the grooves with a Groove Analyser and they'll say 'He was obviously in an indie band and one day the pressure got too much, and he booted a wall.' And they wouldn't be far from the truth, those crazy scientists. >> Thanks to our own Stuart too, for some excellent reporting back. I look forward to the next installment. I once interviewed a friend of mine in a bath while I played a piano in my smoking jacket. I played "Paint Your Wagon". It was for a school project and we were almost expelled for "not taking it seriously". I also ran about in my pants. Nothin' wrong with that. (click. clunk. mmm, My Lighthouse. fantastic!) I spent the weekend in Kidderminster - Twinned with Husum. No giraffes had escaped from the zoo this weekend but there was still fun to be had. I saw a smattering of snowdrops on the peak of the roundabout, I saw the ribs of the old carpet factories as they were picked apart by cranes, and I wondered about the statue of the Reverend Richard Baxter which looks greyly over his flock. The town's most overlooked hero, licked into second place by Sir Rowland Hill inventor of the postage stamp, Baxter was a nonconformist with ambitions to poke a stick in the eye of the King of England and unite the churches behind the Lord's Prayer, the Gospel, a love of sherry and a good knees up. Now he's just a statue at the side of a roundabout, overlooked by the Biggest Sainsburys in the Midlands. I still think of you, Reverend. You may remember last time I was in a bookshop in Kidderminster I saw a whole shelf of "Kidderminster - A History" positioned in the Horror section. Well, on Saturday in the same bookshop I saw a book called "The Strangest Pubs in Britain!" which features such wonders as a pub with a tree in it and a pub which is home to The Oldest Bee in the World! HOW STRANGE!!!!!! Even better than the Unnatural Tree and Ungodly Bee, however, was the poster advertising it which was packed full of "celebrity endorsements", such as: "It sounds fun" - Patrick Moore and "Best wishes for the success of your book" - Prince William Wow! I think they have a bestseller on their hands!! (la la la la! they've never seen your sentimental siiide!) Enough of this. Great to see some old faces showing up again. I'm a little worried about Eric and the tear gas, though. Hope he's okay. r o b i n x x x ps: Chris Field, sorry for being so slow to reply. It takes a while sometimes to get the old bean in gear. I will write to you soon about a Kidderminster Picnic OH MY GOD CAN IT BE?!!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jvic at xxx.br Tue Feb 18 19:35:33 2003 From: jvic at xxx.br (jvic at xxx.br) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 16:35:33 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Help! Message-ID: <200302181936.TAA25740@missprint.org> Yesterday i heard this song that was so *great*, but i don't know how it's called, and i don't know what band was playing it. So i was wondering if any of you could help me... the refrain goes like this: "All i can be, i can feel, i believe it's just right here..." (repeats over and over) I've tried searching at google, but no sucess. I'd appreciate any help, Thanx Victor. _________________________________________________________ Voce quer um iGMail protegido contra v�rus e spams? Clique aqui: http://www.igmailseguro.ig.com.br +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Wed Feb 19 11:28:54 2003 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:28:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Look at me, I'm still on TV... Message-ID: OK, I'm back for some more Reporting Back. They should turn this into some sort of "Making of the DVD" thing, it's long enough... Chapter 4: Friday morning - with Chris and Sarah. The first interview of day 2 was a double-header, speaking to Sarah and Chris in the conservatory at the back of a bar in Glasgow's West End, just down the road from the old Grosvenor Café. (It was actually really nice for me to se all these places for the first time, since I'd not been to Glasgow before). The four of us were seated round a table in the back; it seemed the best way of getting me in the same frame as the others, I'm way too tall to do interviews standing up... This was the one I enjoyed most; it was more like a chat than an interview. As always, most of the talk revolved around the band's history and future. The way they all talked about the Brazil concerts really made me wish I'd been there... We were starting to repeat questions from the day before, but the answers were still interesting. We talked about their hopes for the new album. We talked about Northern Soul. We talked about how they had all changed over the years (apparently Mick's ever-changing hairdo is the most noticeable thing!). We talked about Chris and his bucket (he doesn't drink quite as much at gigs these days...). The time went really quickly actually, it was over before we knew it; I could happily have sat there chatting all day. Oh, the hardships of being a media whore. Chapter 5: Friday early afternoon - with Stevie. After a lunch-break, we must have spent a good quarter of an hour waiting patiently for Stevie to turn up while he was standing on the opposite corner of the road junction waiting for us. Having finally realised that we were standing less than ten metres from his car, we started getting set up for the interview. For this one, Stevie was going to drive us around Glasgow, while the two reporters Sarah & I sat in the back of his car asking questions; with Jim filming us all from the front seat and Blair directing from next to us in the back. Personally I found it harder to have a conversation, partly because Stevie had to concentrate on driving (even if we were just going up and down a quiet street down by the docks for most of the time!) but more because we couldn't really see his face except a bit in the rear-view mirror; having said that, Blair thought it was the interview which worked best, and he knows what he's talking about far more than I do! Now, Stevie loves his music. He likes nothing more than playing a gig. His repertoire is responsible for most of the cover versions done at gigs. As the band's resident axe-wielder, he seems to prefer the more up-tempo numbers to play; and he was as bemused as anyone about being labelled 'twee'. Of course, there were the usual questions about the band's history and future, since that was the main point of the interviews; again, Stevie thought the future of the band was rosier now than it had been for a few years. And no, he's not planning on leaving the band and going solo just yet... Having made it safely back without crashing (despite Stevie turning round to answer questions from time to time...), we piled out of the car, got the life back in our legs (well I did at least - it's not easy being tall and sitting behind another tall person in the car for an hour!) and headed off to pick up the remaining two band members. Chapter 6: Friday late afternoon - with Mick and Bob. It had been a gorgeous day in Glasgow. Bright and sunny, and hardly a cloud in the sky. So what better place to do the final interview than in Kelvingrove Park? Well, somewhere warm would have been a nice start, but still... Sitting round a picnic bench, huddling up in our coats, hands cradling a polystyrene cup of tea, the four of us looked more like homeless people than anything else. When you see the footage, you'll be able to tell how far through the interview it was by how red my ears are at the time. We managed to fit all the usual subjects into the interview before it was decided to call a halt because Bobby's teeth could be heard chattering in the microphone. And to think, Katrina had decided to go back to the office instead of hanging around for the afternoon to watch... Aside from asking about the same stuff as in the other interviews, it was interesting to hear how Mick and Bobby found it joining the band halfway through, so-to-speak. Mick talked about having to change his attitude from being the bloke who came into the studio and cheered things up, to being someone expected to give input into the decisions. Bob talked about the process being made easier because he had known the entire band for five years beforehand. Once we had enough footage, we returned to the car to defrost, and then headed off to the pub. Chapter 7: Friday early evening. Filming done, time to relax. First up, a few drinks with Mick, Bobby, Blair, Jim, and Katrina who rejoined us (and is still convinced I'm an alcoholic, can't imagine why...). I'll leave it to you to guess which person at the table had just purchased the best of Toto on CD, because it's really not that interesting. The conversation went from credible alternative music (well, Kylie Minogue and Tatu to be honest) to the politics of the anti-war march to the wonderful sport of korfball. Only about half an hour late, we decided to make a move to get to the restaurant for a meal. The dining party consisted of me and Sarah, Stuart M, Katrina, Jim and Blair (despite his other half cooking a Valentine's meal for him back home... Hope he didn't get into trouble...). We were the only people in the restaurant not there as a couple, either long-term couples or the blatantly-obvious first date going on on one of the tables. So it was only natural that the conversation was mostly about relationships; it sounded more like a group therapy session at times! There was a bit of chat about music, and Camera Obscura in particular; and a bit more about the peace demo (incidentally, on Saturday night I finally found someone who thinks we should be going to war with Iraq - it's taken me several months...). I wish I could have joined Stuart, Katrina and the others on the march, but sadly I had to be back in Nottingham on Saturday afternoon. Oh, and incidentally, the food was delicious. Chapter 8: Friday evening - at the Camera Obscura gig. So, four of us piled into a taxi to head round to Stuart's Church Hall to see the show. After a discussion on the way there about which karaoke songs each of us had sung / would want to sing, and a quick stop in the off-licence, we arrived just in time to see the first act, a man whose name I've forgotten but who sounded eerily like Elvis Costello (which is no bad thing). Lucy has already given a round-up of who was there (I never met half of you, but still...); I'll just say that the atmosphere was really friendly and everyone had a good time. Camera Obscura themselves played mostly good new songs, with a couple of classics thrown in for good measure. And just when I was crying out for them to let rip with an up-tempo number, they did at the end, and people literally started dancing in the aisles. They've got a lot better since last time I saw them a couple of years ago (which obviously is all thanks to the addition of Carey on the keyboards). Once the gig was over, we stayed behind for a little while chatting with the various members of B&S who were present (most of them!). (At this point I should apologise to Katrina for making her wait while I chatted to Sarah for a minute or two!) Anyway, it was time to go, so I said my goodbyes, and Stuart drove us back to our hotel, where I was asleep within seconds of lying down. I had to come back on Saturday morning, which was a real shame; everyone was so nice and friendly and I could have talked to them for hours more. The band aren't superstars, they're just normal, lovely people who happen to be a lot more talented than me. I can't think of any way they could have been more welcoming, open and friendly. So huge thanks to the band, the director and cameraman, to Katrina, to the person who came round with room service while we were interviewing Stuart for not kicking us out of the hotel... I'm already looking forward to how it will all turn out; it's going to be good (especially since most bits won't have me in them). In the meantime, it's been a fun experience that I'll never forget. Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com Wed Feb 19 16:24:39 2003 From: pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com (hannah brown) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:24:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: trauma from a love angel Message-ID: hello, Thanks Stu for your accounts of the interview, it was a very intersting read. I will have to buy a DVD player now. I was having a reasonable cheerful time yesterday and then it all went a bit wrong. I went to college as usual and bought a hot chocolate from the bar, the barman then gave me my money back and said i could have it for free. I asked him why, he went red and said he had messed it up because he didn't put enough chocolate in . I smiled and said thanks, but when i tried it there was nothing wrong with it. That made me happy. Later i went to BRB, a pizza place with some friends. The pizza was good and so was the Hoegarden. Then a familiar face walked in with his girlfriend, they sat down near me and expressed their coupleiness to the world. Last year i was obsessed with this guy. I think he is totally beautiful, he looks like a reinnassance painting of one of those cherubs reclining on a lute. It sounds mad but its true, he's got dark wavy locks and big blue eyes and on top of this he like B&S. Anyway, i thought he was amazing. I didn't really know him but i made him some tapes. Unfortunatly i told him how i felt and i think he was preety disgusted, or maybe just plain frightened. I cried and cried. I thought i was over him but last night just made it all horrible again. They looked so happy together, she looked young and had hair. You know the kind, very long, very straight, very blonde. He bought her a drink and when they looked at the menu they brushed each others cheeks. I was so embarrassed with myself, he has a habit of making me feel like shit. Anyway, i'm going to see Teenage Fanclub tonight and it's going to be wicked, probably not as good as Low were on Friday but i will be able to jump around a bit this time, yey! I was going to insert a quote here but i don't think it's perfectly right anyway it goes: "i wish i could bring Nick Drake back to life, he'd understand, hold my hand.." that's Graham Coxon and i think it's a brilliant line, it's amusing because it's so child like with the simple rhyming but it's also quite touching and when i first heard it it was like he had read my thoughts. yeh, this could be my longest post ever, love hannah b see some of you tommorrow.... _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From another_late_night at xxx.com Wed Feb 19 16:54:27 2003 From: another_late_night at xxx.com (Ian porter) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:54:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Adverb tastic Message-ID: My prelims started today, I had English first this morning. Did the interperatation on erm, passages about the Concorde crash, I'd forgotten about that 113 people died you know. But art was the real hard one *loud, disagreeing voices from back of room* No, seriously,it is. It was the art and design studies part, and we had to write like, NON STOP for TWO AND A HALF hours. I mean, a TWENTY MARK essay on a big lurid, manky loooking gortex jacket thing. I used up my entires years supply of adverbs in those two hours, no I cant describe anything, at all. I said 'striking' 23 times, and managed to fit the word 'Concomitant' in. And 'This Is Just A Modern Rock Song' was in my head the whole time and i was waering cords. _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com Wed Feb 19 15:54:45 2003 From: a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com (a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:54:45 0 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: I wanna be ignorant on my own Message-ID: <20030219155445.26739.h011.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> Dearest Sinister, This is a tribute to thou. I’ve come to realize what I’ve always known, but yet kept quiet with. I really love sinister. I do. I know it’s supposed to be this place where cool people hang and all, and I don’t think that it is meant for sixteen year old girls to love it. But I do. You’re all so wonderful and funny. Just when I’m about to give up on everything and go hide under my duvet for the rest of my life, only coming out once in a while to get more chocolate, you cheer me up again and it’s all so lovely. I’m not trying to kiss some twee arses here, this is just how I feel. Ah. I hope you don’t think I’m too pathetic. But yesterday, after a horrendously bad hair day (that really ruins my entire day, I know it’s superficial, but when my hair is really bad I feel really bad too. Not that I care much about it usually, but, er, yes. I don’t know. It’s just how it is), I came home. I was hoping for a letter from Miss Alex in Australia. But no, just boring mail for my mum. But then I went into the kitchen, and there, on the table, there it was! A lovely little parcel, with nice little stickers on it! For me! Hurrah! It contained a nice letter, a GREAT mixtape and Miss Alex’s zine Unintentionally Lo-Fi. It totally made my day! Hurrah again for Miss Alex! She’s the queen of Indie Cool. Yay for her! Today, I am at home again. I’m wearing my black cords and my pink baseball-shirt or what the hell they’re called. It’s nice, because the main part on it is pastel pink with deep pink stars, and the sleeves are just deep pink. I feel sort of pretty, except that I look like I’d been hiding in a closet for 300 years or something. Shall we say I look tired. Ok. I love this Swedish cereal called Kalaspuffar. That’s like, er, PartyPuffs in English. It’s such a god name for cereal. At least the Swedish version. PartyPuffs sounds like something that has to do with drugs. Maybe you’ve got something similar. But still, it is God’s creation. Sugary, good as snacks and actual cereal. YUM. I’m looking at the box right now, therefore I felt the need to tell you. Does anyone else have a fascination for daytime television? I love it. First, there’s the sort of stuff like Days of Our Lives, ah, how wonderfully crap! Always someone possessed by the devil, or you think that you’re watching a normal conversation between two of the lousy actors, until you see the supposed-to-be red scary eyes in the tree or something. Always really weird supernatural things. But I can’t stand watching more than a minute of it, though. Because it truly is awful. Then there’s stuff like Full House, Blossom and Step by Step. AH. So cheesy, and not even funny. And in Step by Step, there’s the Pervs also known as the Parents who are always talking about sex. They sort of scare me, because they keep talking about nurse outfits and stuff like that. Eeeeew! Leave me out of it you devil family! Dawson’s Creek has to get its space in this post too. Dawson and his family is my favourite thing to hate about the series. Really, have you ever seen anyone with such an asymmetric face? It’s been bugging me since it started here, when I was twelve. He’s weirdly ugly, as if that’s his excuse for being sensitive or something, and then he had this freaky dad, who thank God “died”. The dad was the worst part. Always, especially in the beginning, a typical conversation between them would go like this: The dad enters Dawson’s room. Dad: Hello Dawson, what are you doing? Dawson: Oh, I’m just editing my new movie. Dad: You know, son, making love to a woman is something special. Like me and your mother, for example, we made love on the living room table yesterday. But a woman is something special Dawson. Always be gentle to her [insert cliché talk] Dawson: Wow, thanks for your great advice dad! Ok. I’m not even going to start on this one. But what the hell?! Father and son talking, not even slightly bothered, about sex? Dawson not being disturbed by the fact that his dad tells him that he and his mother has sex? ON THE GOD DAMN LIVING ROOM TABLE? Last week, I brought up the topic of the fact that parents have sex and how you really don’t want to think about that, amongst my friends, which resulted in us all laughing panicky screaming “AHHHH MENTAL PICTURES MENTAL PICTURES MENTAL PICTURES!”. Oh, when browsing through old posts, I found this from a post by Toy Stephen: “Perhaps you're Astrid and you've been dancing with the Belles Your star so lovely, that your age they cannot tell Your obsessions get you known throughout Sinister for being strange Crushing Bobby, and whispering him 'Jag älskar dig.'” That’s very funny and very sweet. It was from the post called sexpecations, and that was like a verse of it. I’m impressed with the Swedish though! But dear sinister, am I known throughout sinister for being strange..? Oh. Well, take care all of you, I love you all. (Ah, cheesy.) Sorry for this v. long post. Handclaps and tambourines and love Astrid x --------------------------------------------------- Who would you rather be - Ted Danson or Kevin Costner? Fab: Who the fuck is Ted Dancer? Ted Danson. Fab: Oh, Danson. Nick: I think Ted Danson wears a toupee. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Wed Feb 19 20:14:33 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:14:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: a.s.t.r.i.d is reading my thoughts today Message-ID: <20030219201433.73463.qmail@web40601.mail.yahoo.com> How strange. I just read some lovely posts from y'all. When I got to Astrid's I was a bit frightened. She mentioned Dawson's Creek...and, in particular, Dawson being creepy looking. I have always thought, and was thinking again this morning, that he looks just like Tigger....you know, from Winnie the Pooh. Really, paint him orange and stripe him.... a twin. Though I suppose that we can't do that as it would ruin the song "the wonderful thing about tigger's is that I'm the only one." Also, young Astrid mentioned the thing about parents having sex. eww. A funny thing happened to me whilst in Florida for my Dad's memorial. I was going through some of his things with my Step-Mother and, while looking in his nightstand for his watch and wallet, I found a book titled "How To Please Your Lover Every Night" or something similar. I ran away from it, as if it were going to bite me. How disgusting is it to imagine your parents doing things like that. Considering that my father had 7 children, I guess he has dabbled in "romantic encounters"...I am quite happy in thinking that a stork brought me, thank you very much. it is a relatively mild day here in Chicagoish. The girls and I took a nice long walk...it was nice to get some fresh air. This morning, Olivia and I went to the supermarket. I saw the fire truck outside and thought I would get to see my cute fireman...alas, I had to settle on seeing his associates :o( I got lots o' replies from sinisters today...a couple of whom I have never seen post. You all should post, really. We love you. People often think they need some big, important nihilistic ideas to post....look at me, I never have anything worthwhile to say, and I post all of the time. :o) On a closing note. I am officially obsessed with Oscar Wilde. I find myself thinking about him far more than a 25 year old American girl should be thinking about a dead, Irish, homosexual writer. I can't help it, the man was and still is AMAZING!!!!! I got an email from this man, David, on my Oscar Wilde list. He told me I was charming. Awww. I love Oscar Wilde. :o) to quote tigger...ttfn..ta ta for now! "The only thing worse than being talked about, is not being talked about." Oscar Wilde ~stine __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From purpletrousers at xxx.com Thu Feb 20 03:49:05 2003 From: purpletrousers at xxx.com (jim taylor) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 03:49:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: ink polaroid (recent exposure) Message-ID: This is one of me at 2.37 in the morning, in my slightly tidier (yet still unpleasantly messy) bedroom in Hackney, London. You might have expected me to have sorted the untidy bedroom out by now, being 29 and all. It's taken from the landing. The bedroom door isn't closed for once as my landlord is away, which provides some relief and psychological space. I'm sitting - in a way that's probably very bad for my back - on a 'back chair', i.e. something that is supposed to encourage you to adopt a posture that is good for your back. If you sit on it in the right way, of course. I'm mostly dressed, and have the taste of dental mouthwash in my mouth (though admittedly that is hard to see). I'm relatively clean shaven by my standards, just a couple of days growth. My long hair is tied back, it is to be cut off soon I decided the previous day. The expression on my face doesn't really give away my feelings, as I sit silently at my computer, typing, and taking care with grammar for once. I've recently found out by email, that a legal department at a prestigious hospital in Los Angeles have said that a member of staff isn't allowed to sign a training agreement. It was part of a scheme that would have entitled me to get a visa to do a 2 month Occupational Therapy fieldwork placement in April. I'm reflecting as I type, upon the conversation I had a short while ago with a wonderful fellow Belle & Sebastian fan, I've been lucky enough to call my girlfriend for the past few months. We've acknowledged that this probably means the end of our relationship and that it probably wouldn't make sense for me to come out for another holiday. I'd never told anyone before I met her that I loved them. jim x p.s. If you (or your close relative) happen to be on the Los Angeles County Department Of Health Board of Supervisors then you could solve my problem. But you may be slightly busy with your imploding health infrastructure, I do appreciate. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Thu Feb 20 12:33:01 2003 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:33:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Fifteen-to-one. TODAY! Message-ID: Hello Sinister. I promised you all that I�d keep you informed. Although it�s short notice, I still reckon that I have done my job if I tell you this: I will be on FIFTEEN-TO-ONE, TODAY (Thursday). It�s C4, from 3:45, but be sure to tune in punctually, because I�m out before the adverts start. A more substantial post will follow. Love Asm.x ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mlaubach at xxx.net Thu Feb 20 08:09:02 2003 From: mlaubach at xxx.net (melanie laubach) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:09:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: funny horror faces Message-ID: <3E548D1D.76500E2A@gmx.net> dear sinister people, you probably won't know me, as i'm keeping quiet most of the time. reading some of your mails makes me always feel....better : ) (inspired by astrid i'm also wearing a black cord today. and a blue 'pan am' girlie tee. but i'll maybe swap that for the black afri cola (a 70s record player logo) or just any plain one) i have to pass a very important exam today. it's the zwischenprüfung, some kind of exam you have to pass in the 'middle' of your studies. i'm studying english, by the way. not to name philosophy (which is a great and sadly not too funny joke) and yiddish. well, the exam consisted of a written part -done last friday, but i'll be getting the results only today. and i'm having such a bad bad bad feeling about it....i guess i failed miserably. especially in the vocabulary part. multiple choice answers for, well, really uncommon vocabulary. e.g. doing this and that brought us to the ____ of ruin a) rim b) brisk c) brim d) fringe i've never heard any of these words before. well sure, all of them mean 'edge' in a way.....well, i know a rim shot from drumming, but this didn't help. apart from the fact i still haven't figured out what is actually correct, i don't even remember what i've chosen. i think i went for fringe..... not to speak about the grammar, the idioms and the translation part. my word. i can only remember that i wrote 'map' instead of 'folder', which is a typically german and highly embarassing mistake in the sentence 'will you put the folder back on the shelf, please' this does ring a bell... a certain song, doesn't it?! well and today there is this oral exam. in two hours to be precise. wich is just some kind of small talk with two teachers. they want to see if i'm capable of talking with sb in english. and they will ask me questions like 'what do you particularly like about your studies' (what am i to say? i like having a lot of free time? i like working here and theres besides university? oh dear) or 'have you ever been to britain or america?' stuff like this. BUT maybe i won't have to answer any of these questions as i maybe didn't pass the written part. they'll tell me the results only in this oral exam! what am i gonna do when i've failed? burst into tears right in front of them? or keep my jar clenched until it's over.....they'll give me some kind of counseling then. this is so dreadful. i don't want to go there. it's horrible. it's frightening. what if i failed? but i'll be in good company then, as they never forgot to tell us 'even native speakers have failed'....and like 60% of the students are failing..... what if i didn't fail the written part and fail in the oral exam? i want to pass this shit so i can forget about all that. but there is hope: i'll be meeting the wonderful woman i'm in love with later on. well, we are not lovers actually, but i'm working on that. anyway, she'll keep me company. 'as long as you are by my side my dear'. have you ever left milk (or tea or coffee with milk) in a thermos jug overnight and then taken a sip? why is this so horrible? is it the vacuum that makes the milk taste so disgusting? i always thought a vacuum would preserve. but, right, i admit, there must have been some air in there, too. oh well, it's time to slowly leave.... have a nice day! melanie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Fri Feb 21 14:31:01 2003 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:31:01 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: brighton picnic? Message-ID: Sorry for a message devoid of wit or relevance, but I have some business to take care of. Yeah. That being: there is still something of a plan to have a picnic in Brighton on 1st March (a week tomorrow) but no one has really announced any intention to come, and my picnic mummy skeez would be much assisted by a show of hands... So if you want to come, could you tell me and I will start thinking about details. Otherwise, I will allow my inherent laziness to take over and forget the whole shebang :) Happy Friday! Archel xxx ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. Email submissions at buzzwords.ndo.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hobart at xxx.uk Fri Feb 21 20:04:28 2003 From: hobart at xxx.uk (Ian Anscombe) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:04:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister: not with a bang Message-ID: <002401c2d9e4$72d619c0$5ed7193e@default> i'll talk to you, if you promise not to tut and walk away. i think it was george bernard shaw who said he liked humanity, but he wasn't all that keen on human beings. somebody else, probably equally wise, said exactly the opposite. personally, a lot of the time i'm not all that keen on either. i met my friend and her new baby in birmingham today. i travelled in on the bus, thoughtlessly placing her christmas present (yes, i know) on the seat next to me, and leaving it there when i got off. about a hundred yards up the road i realised, pegged it round the corner to where it would stop about three minutes later, and managed to persuade the driver to let me on to get my belongings. i'd bought her four nice little dish thingies in a pretty box. when i got back on, the box had been opened, and three of the dishes had gone. the last one had been broken. an old man gave me the box. he said he'd got on the stop before and found it like that. three minutes. 180 seconds. too long to trust in human beings for, clearly. there were shiney silver stars all over the seat. yes, there will be some relevant content eventually. i don't like birmingham centre. i'm not keen on dealing with shoppy-people. they have bags, and hair piled on their heads. they have hard faces and they pull them into strange shapes at me. they make me sad, most of the time. once, i got off the bus, and then just got back on it again and went home. not today. i had a mission. black box recorder tickets... the academy ticket office is a particularly frightening place. today, there were lots of NU METAL KIDZ outside and i slunk past them and faced Evil Rude Girl in the box office. and i stuck up for myself when she was rude to me. she tutted and muttered about not saying 'please'. i don't often do that. i told her that if she pulled faces at people, she couldn't be surprised if they didn't say 'please' or 'thank you' and i asked her if she was always so rude. and then i left, with my tickets, shaking a bit. she'll be there, on monday, pulling her faces twice as hard. i've never liked confrontation. the city streets are mean, and they scare me. i want to pull my hood over my face, and shrink back beneath it. i want to exist somewhere warm, dark, womb-like. i want the only things i hear to be a heartbeat, preferably my own. sometimes. other times, i want the sunshine, and a hand to hold. and if we want these things we have to face the world. a thousand miles away: the man who runs the country has a secret service which routinely kidnaps and tortures those suspected of political crimes. sometimes, the secret service tortures children to get confessions from their parents. sometimes, wives are raped to extract confessions from husbands. soon, they're going to have metal falling from the sky onto their homes. that should bring some perspective, but it doesn't. i worry about my day, and how hard it seems to have become to face people. the thing that brought me here in the first place, the moment i fell in love with belle and sebastian, was the moment i heard them singing about the boy with naivety. oh, they always reach a sorry ending. they always get it in the end. i felt like that, once. i felt like there was love in everyone and everything. and i still think that might be the way to succeed. it is mightier than swords. but its hard to believe that, day in day out. its hard to believe in the goodness of people when even the tiny moments shatter themselves in your face. the shards wriggle around your brain. can you believe, with a brain full of glass? imagine sitting in a bomb shelter, if you have one, hearing the missiles raining all around, knowing that the next one could be you. perspective doesn't come in easy, measured doses. it comes in twenty ton packages, immediate, inescapable. perhaps i should be glad to be without it. whilst i don't have it, belle and sebastian are amongst the things that make my strange world make more sense. they help with the little things. it's the little things that crush, as a not-very-famous singer once opined.. but then, he was from scotland, not iraq. if you live in baghdad its probably the big things that crush. i'm thankful to be here. i'm thankful for the softness i find here. i'm thankful that there's somewhere to hide from the world. i'm thankful that you care hard enough to march for people on the other side of the world. sometimes i agree with you, sometimes i don't. this week i've changed my views on global politics more often than i've changed my underwear. thank heavens for semi-disposable opinions and paper underwear. but i'm pleased that you care. it reminds me that people do. we have to, don't we? we have to care about something. we have to cry at endings, sad or otherwise. we have to stay alive inside. or we've already lost the battle. peace, my dears. whatever you take that to mean xx ian ps. sorry, but i do have to mention this. it was mentioned on-list, and its vitally important. jim, or anyone else that is thinking of it, PLEASE don't go to iraq and be a human shield, no matter how strong your views are - twelve years ago british people in iraq were kidnapped and used as exactly that. they had no choice in the matter. as we're seeing right now, history has this way of repeating itself. you could find yourself in a far worse situation than you possibly imagined. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeepsteralice at xxx.com Fri Feb 21 21:39:47 2003 From: jeepsteralice at xxx.com (Alice Forward) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:39:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: In reply to Ian Anscombe Message-ID: <20030221213947.73246.qmail@web20202.mail.yahoo.com> This is the first time ive posted a message abd it has taken Ian Anscombe's post to say something. I live in Nottingham and went down with the university to the march last Saturday in London. For me it was one of the most moving experiences as it was just so plain to see that the people do not want this war. Sadam Hussian is a murderer and a villain but in many ways Bush is nearing his level. Somethinghas to be done to save and free the people of Iraq and at this moment in time i do not fell that war is the answer. The world for many is grey and hopeless but with solidarity, hope can be given to many. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Fri Feb 21 22:44:57 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:44:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: I think people should always be in love, that's why i'm against marriage Message-ID: <20030221224457.56146.qmail@web40610.mail.yahoo.com> It is so beautiful here today! Very seldom do we get 50 degree days in Chicagoish in February. I highly doubt you will find anyone complaining about this though. It was truly a perfect day. The sun is shining brightly, snow is melting (thank god), and the neighbourhood is full of happy children. The girls and I spent the better part of the day running, jumping, climbing, and laughing at the park. It was just so lovely to be out of the house. My aforementioned associated are now in the throes of napdom, I find myself in envy of them. :o) Today is a long day...I came in at 630 am and will be here til around 130 am or so. Gads! Oh well, God knows I need the money. I would rather work here a few extra hours than resort to solicitation on Rush street. The weekend should be lovely. I have decided to stop being a depressing old mope and go out with friends tomorrow. I think many of them were honestly beginning to question whether or not I was still alive. :o) It isn't that I have been depressed, per se, I just have little of relevence to share of late. I feel that I am a burden on my friends should I continue to talk about how worried I am about my present financial state, as well as dealing with my Father's passing. I just feel a bit like a broken record I s'pose. Does anyone like a broken record? I guess I sort of do. It indicates that said record was well loved, presumably, and got a great deal of appreciation. Perhaps even brought someone great happiness, even if only for a moment or two. I have made a couple of new sinister friends in the past few weeks. they are, as if their were any doubt, amazing people. Jaye, Kevin, and the lovely Alex. Smooches to you all. And Brian McNeill, I haven't seen you post lately....you are probably brushing up your scottish accent to send me one mutha of an audio email :o) Oh well, in the words of REO Speedwagon...It't Time For Me To Fly (who thought of Muzak anyway...damn them!) I wish you all the toadiest of weekends. Have lots o' fun, and, in the words of Oscar Wilde, Party like it's 1999. :o) ~stine __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mlaubach at xxx.net Sat Feb 22 14:02:24 2003 From: mlaubach at xxx.net (melanie laubach) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 15:02:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: funny horror faces-the story continues Message-ID: <3E5782F0.BDD25BEC@gmx.net> hey there! thank you sooo much for being so very nice and writing back to me! ian and mark, thanks for explaining! well well well i did do well indeed..... when i entered the room, mr hooton (he's ever so sweet, looking a bit like star wars joda (yoda?)) with a peace sign earring in his right ear ; ) offered me a seat and told me i passed. i was REALLY surprised. i mean the vocabulary part was like a big fat quiz show including a lot of guessing. and he said 'oh, you did do well in the vocabulary part' - i could hardly keep my breath. i told them (a smart guy from the faculty was sitting by, too) that that's really a relief and that i thought i had failed miserably. and that i feel like fainting any minute. especially then, facing the oral part. we all had a laugh. then we got started and it was just a bit of small talk, he asked me about my studies and i told them a bit about yiddish in general and a seminar on descartes i took last term and about gender trouble and judith butler and, being asked about, my trips to london. and then i told them about a holiday spent in teignmouth, a small city by the sea in cornwall, near exeter. and that i was staying with an old (i reakky said) 'madam' (embarrassing, embarrassing) before i realised what i just said. then we all had to laugh very much and he told me that i'd better use the term 'lady'. i said it was a strange holiday, but not that strange as staying with a madam..... must have been less than ten minutes, he told me i'd passed and out i rushed. phoned people then, keeping on yelling. i was soooo exited. i made it. i passed! i will never have to worry about english grammar again! (i'm just kidding...) spending the rest of the day with HER made the day kind of perfect. we went outside and took pictures with her lomo camera, we got some helium balloons and had quite a lot of fun. well, we've been knowing each other since....november, we are getting on pretty pretty well. our friendship is growing stronger any day. if only there wasn't her boyfriend..... that's a problem. but she told me she finds me very charming and interesting and nice and funny and intelligent and whitty and good looking and attractive and sexy and whatsoever and that she's maybe going to fall madly in love with me. well, that's a perspective, i guess : ) yesterday she and me were moderating (is that the correct term? i mean we were the moderators...) an anti war concert in the predestrian precinct in düsseldorf's inner city. nearby the rhine. it was a kind of sucess, as many people were there and not only the 'usual suspects', but a lot of 'fresh young' people i've never ever seen before. but it was cold and i didn't like the music (nu metal, reggae, emo, hip hop and cossover bands....) in the evening we went to a party, a good friend of mine ('my' co singer and guitarist) was celebrating her birthday (30, my godness, she's thirty. unbelievable. i'm 22 by the way, not that these numbers do matter in any way). and then she told me about that dream she had: we were sitting on a couch and she was feeding me a praline(!) the praline was pink and had white stripes(!) and then we were kissing(!!!) and looking at each other. then she woke up. well, i didn't actually know what to reply. i also can hardly remember what i did reply in the end, i think i said sth like 'well, it's a shame you're always waking up at the most thrilling moment' ("but it all fades into morning when you open your eyes" : ) and then i told her that she's 'the woman of the evening' ('du bist die frau des abends') and that's she's extremely gorgeous. and then she kissed me on the cheek, her boyfriend watching us suspicously from across the room. he's very jealous. knowing that i go for girls he's always keeping an eye on us. and whenever we are meeting, he constanly asks her what we've done afterwards and how it was and he's forever calling her on her mobile when he knows that she's with me. but she has been turning it off, lately. : )))) i think with this kind of 'possession claims' he will kick himself out sooner or later. and: i'm patient. (got any tips for me by the way?) right then, i hope i didn't bore you, thanks for listening and being there : ) have a nice saturday! hugs, melanie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goingoutofmymind at xxx.net Sat Feb 22 17:39:18 2003 From: goingoutofmymind at xxx.net (goingoutofmymind at xxx.net) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 12:39:18 -0500 Subject: Sinister: cigarettes in the rain Message-ID: <000901c2da99$53901c40$9b883244@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> Hello, anyways, I have only posted one other time, about a year and a half ago, and then I realised I didnt really have that much to say, and went back to lurking, and today, I still dont really have anything else to say but I thought I would perhaps stop the hiding and say hello to everyone again. Perhaps, since no one while remember me I had better introduce myself again..... Hi, my name is alan, and I am now 31 (please say it isnt so) and the last time I wrote I live in Dundee in Scotland, I now live in Washington DC in America, the last time I wrote I was engaged in a long distance romance with a cute lebenese american girl, well its now no longer a long distance thing, we got married in september; so in the last six months, I became a poor small town scottish boy living in the big bad america and a married man! being married is great, but the idea still freaks me out a little, how can I be married?? I can barely manage to dress myself in the morning and I regularly refer to Joanne and my girlfriend, which makes her laugh a little.... "but we got married....in a church" she cries So slowly but surely I am getting used to life in yankland; they drive on the wrong side of the road...can you believe that?? and I find the drivers and shop assistant rude for the most part (I dont what to offend any americans on the list) but I am sure there are exceptions. One of the best bits is that I can wander round museams all day and not have to pay a penny to get it! what a bargain, as I love museams; but on the downside I do miss my friends and my family; but we are going back for a holiday in june! We got a lot of snow last weekend almost 2 feet, so I had lots of snowy adventures, me and joanne had a snowball fight when we were suppose to be digging the car out, but she didnt want to build a snowman...and now its pissing with rain, which is melting the snow but there is a danger of flooding, but we live on the 3nd floor so our flat will be an refuge from the deluge, but I need more cigarettes so I guess I will have to put some boots and a jacket on an make my merry little way to the 7-11 to buy more, ironic really, I am willing to get soaked just for the pleasure of killing myself slowly. I keep promising myself that I will stop next week, but I always say that, I should really stop! I don't have a job yet, they havent seen fit to supply me with a work permit yet, so I spend my days, cleaning the house, doing the laundry; cooking dinner and baking cakes; I have become a proper little house wife, but I like cooking and baking, so its all fun for me, yesterday I made a great apple spice cake which tastes lovely with some birds custard I managed to find at a groumet food shop, sadly I cant find irn bru anywhere. so on that bombshell I will leave you and begin my trek for smokes, then I should really be thinking about dinner... hopefully I will manage to write again before next year, but if there is anyone on the list in this area, feel free to email me.. byeeeeeee Alan. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Sat Feb 22 23:11:03 2003 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:11:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: It's a Saturday night & I ain't got nobody Message-ID: I just realized that the album I've been listening to non-stop for over a month has an opening track which is about a man who has rodents in his apartment but doesn't want to get rid of them because they keep him company while staying up late at night waiting for his someone to call (which they never do). Thus, if this post seems downtrodden just be thankful I'm not writing Hallmark greeting cards or - worse yet - answering sucide hotlines. I for one would like to thank Big Stu for the summary posts of the interviews as I quite enjoyed them. Heaven knows that if I had been chosen you would have gotten no details except for that I spent time with Struan while he was in the bath. Then if I was forced to divulge anymore it would only come out in a tuneless rendition of "Rubber Ducky" which is probably why I wasn't picked. Well, that and I didn't apply. I said I would only inundate you with boring posts weekly and here I am harassing y'all a second time this week. I promise it isn't because I'm bored or anything. The sheer productivity of my days would astound and amaze anyone. Why I have even been making homemade bread almost daily. Well, "homemade" meaning using a breadmaker but what did you expect - me to granulate the sugar? I still have to put the ingredients in IN ORDER and they have to be at room temperature and everything. It's enough for me to break out in a sweat just thinking about my hard labor. Of course, if I get any more domesticated I'll have to start crocheting scripture covers or something. I'm writing today because it's a TRADITION for me to write on February 22nd as it is Miss Ree's birthday - and today is her 25th one at that! I've been doing it for three years, except for last year I was TRAPPED at a dirty hippie farm in Massahoweveryouspellit. However, this year I continue with my wishes for Miss Ree. I usually list all of the reasons why she rocks but we know those already so that's old hat. Instead, this year I shall believe I'll send her birthday greetings by presenting her Trading Card which can be found at: http://www.joannou.net/petullant/ree.php Wheeee! Laura PS - Flannery's birthday is this coming up Friday but I promise this is the last birthday post for this year - sorry to flood you. For past memorees see: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200102/msg00224.html http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200002/msg00337.html PPS - Good to see sexy Steve Kado AND every cute coffee boy's crush Eric Brasure posting again - whoot! PPPS - If you don't have a Sinister Trading Card, it can only mean that I don't love you. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From languagecreep at xxx.com Sun Feb 23 17:38:15 2003 From: languagecreep at xxx.com (Today I am feeling better) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:38:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I don't mind you coming here, and wasting all my time time Message-ID: Liebe Sinister, Last night was pretty good. I went to a party and didn't get too drunk or do/say anything stupid. I also went to the museum of science and had a tasty dinner. So I guess all in all the day was a success. Before going to the party my roommate and I had "relaxation time." I put on some B&S and we had only one little light on. The raindrops on the window reflected a cirle of light from the streetlight on the path below. My roommate asked who was playing. Belle and Sebastian, I said. They're good, she said. And it was good. Prior to writing to you, I have just spent an ungodly amount of time on ebay. I love jade jewelry and there is a wealth of it on ebay. Plus most of it comes from Hong Kong which means the joy of getting mail from Hong Kong. So Sinister, I have met someone. I've been staying up until all hours of the morning talking to him. I thought I might see him this weekend, but his friend's father died. The sadness of that is compounded with my sadness that I won't be able to talk to him again until Monday night at the earliest. It's been since Thursday. My impatience gets the better of me, but I try not to let it get me down. Anyway, I am excited. I haven't been in so long. In reference to my German side, it comes out because I've had to do a lot of writing in German. Also I am desperate to get to Germany. I have relatives near Dusseldorf, which I believe was mentioned recently. I got excited again. and now, in the name of preserving the smut content of sinister: My German side feels fantastic, you try feeling it some time too. Boston?....Meet up?...oh, I thought not. love and raindrops, Kara www2.bc.edu/~brielman _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brazilp at xxx.ie Sun Feb 23 19:50:38 2003 From: brazilp at xxx.ie (trish delish) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:50:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian on the radio... tonight! Message-ID: <3E9217B0@ntserver-e2w2.tcd.ie> hello sinister kids Long time no chat and all that, but i just saw something on the good old interweb that i thought some of you might like to hear about.... the show performed by belle and sebastian at the benicassim festival last august is being broadcast tonight on an irish radio station called 2fm, sometime between ten and midnight. for those like myself who weren't lucky enough to be there for the actual gig, tonight's our lucky night, and you can listen over the internet if you go to http://www.2fm.ie or here http://www.2fm.ie/musiczone/fanning.html enjoy! trish delish +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Mon Feb 24 00:02:49 2003 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:02:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: no ink polaroids In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick note to say that I've added photos from last Thursday's How Does It Feel To Be Loved? to the site. Thanks to everyone who came along. Another great night. http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Mon Feb 24 00:59:13 2003 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:59:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The scars of Beckham healed (tho this e-mail is more about GIGGS) Message-ID: Hi all, I saw a guy on a tube train with tourettes syndrome the other day and he kept swearing at people. Especially when he kept trying to read this other guy's newspaper, whenever the guy moved tourettes man would should "FUCK YOU" really loudly. And also harassing this girl who liked to sit on the tube train floor, who herself was quite odd indeed for that reason. Fuck. Chris Geddes is a man of taste. He demonstrated this fact when he provided the A for someone's Q at http://www.banchory.net/belleandsebastian/qanda.html ------ Q: My roommate and I just bought a couple decks of your Belle and Sebastian playing cards. We want to play some card games with them and just wanted to know what some of the bands' favorite card games are. A: Shithead. That's the name of the game, incidentally. A: Late night poker. ------ Ahh, yes, a fellow late night poker enthusiast. The next question for Chris though, should be "Can you explain the dealer button to us?" Chris Geddes is a man of such good taste that I have decided to go and watch the band he is in this May, when they'll be playing! For those who haven't yet signed up to the B&S news email list(http://www.banchoryshop.net/belleandsebastian/list/list.asp) here are some bits that are mentioned on an e-mail from Katrina, and on the B&S Website News Section... >From: >To: >Subject: Belle & Sebastian support Concern & The Sunday Herald''s Appeal >for Africa >Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:11:45 -0000 > >Belle & Sebastian are to appear in a concert to highlight the current food >crisis in Africa. > >The band were invited to headline the benefit show at the Glasgow Royal >Concert Hall by the Sunday Herald and Concern who have been working >together to raise funds and highlight the issues surrounding poverty in >the developing world. > >Stuart Murdoch says "We''re really pleased to be able to help out with >this initiative. I''m confident that any money we raise will be used 100% >for the good. It''s maybe not a great time with everyone crapping >themselves over Iraq. In the case of Ethiopia, though, it''s a relatively >simple matter. There''s a lot people who are going to die of starvation >unless they get help. We are in the privileged position of being able to >do something about it, however small, so I''m really glad the Sunday >Herald and Concern asked us to help out." > >The Concern Concert for Africa featuring Belle and Sebastian, The >Delgados, hosted by Karen Dunbar and featuring other very special guests >will be on Saturday May 17th 2003. > >Tickets are be priced at �25.00 and �18.50 (restricted view) and are >available from 10am on Monday 24th February in person at the GRCH Box >Office on Sauchiehall Street, or by phoning the Box Office on 0141 353 >8000. Tickets are restricted to 4 tickets per caller only. There will be >a credit card fee of 50p per ticket, but no charge for cash or cheque >payments at the box office. > >For more information, please visit:- >http://www.concern.net and >http://www.sundayherald.com/ > A couple of summers ago B&S played at the Barrelands in Glasgow, it was really great. I hope this year it'll be even better! There was a massive sinister meetup last time round too... Maybe England vs Scotland sinisterfitba rematch is in order! Fucking A. Ken P.S.: Here is the above e-mail with paragraphing removed for Kieran Devaney's reading pleasure... ================================================= Hi all, I saw a guy on a tube train with tourettes syndrome the other day and he kept swearing at people. Especially when he kept trying to read this other guy's newspaper, whenever the guy moved tourettes man would should "FUCK YOU" really loudly. And also harassing this girl who liked to sit on the tube train floor, who herself was quite odd indeed for that reason. Fuck. Chris Geddes is a man of taste. He demonstrated this fact when he provided the A for someone's Q at http://www.banchory.net/belleandsebastian/qanda.html------ Q: My roommate and I just bought a couple decks of your Belle and Sebastian playing cards. We want to play some card games with them and just wanted to know what some of the bands' favorite card games are. A: Shithead. That's the name of the game, incidentally. A: Late night poker.------Ahh, yes, a fellow late night poker enthusiast. The next question for Chris though, should be "Can you explain the dealer button to us?"Chris Geddes is a man of such good taste that I have decided to go and watch the band he is in this May, when they'll be playing! For those who haven't yet signed up to the B&S news email list (http://www.banchoryshop.net/belleandsebastian/list/list.asp) here are some bits that are mentioned on an e-mail from Katrina, and on the B&S Website News Section...>From: >To: >Subject: Belle & Sebastian support Concern & The Sunday Herald''s Appeal for Africa Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:11:45 -0000 Belle & Sebastian are to appear in a concert to highlight the current food>crisis in Africa. The band were invited to headline the benefit show at the Glasgow Royal Concert Hall by the Sunday Herald and Concern who have been working together to raise funds and highlight the issues surrounding poverty in the developing world. Stuart Murdoch says "We''re really pleased to be able to help out with this initiative. I''m confident that any money we raise will be used 100% for the good. It''s maybe not a great time with everyone crapping themselves over Iraq. In the case of Ethiopia, though, it''s a relatively simple matter. There''s a lot people who are going to die of starvation unless they get help. We are in the privileged position of being able to do something about it, however small, so I''m really glad the Sunday Herald and Concern asked us to help out." The Concern Concert for Africa featuring Belle and Sebastian, The Delgados, hosted by Karen Dunbar and featuring other very special guests will be on Saturday May 17th 2003. Tickets are be priced at �25.00 and �18.50 (restricted view) and are available from 10am on Monday 24th February in person at the GRCH Box Office on Sauchiehall Street, or by phoning the Box Office on 0141 353 8000. Tickets are restricted to 4 tickets per caller only. There will be a credit card fee of 50p per ticket, but no charge for cash or cheque payments at the box office. For more information, please visit:- http://www.concern.net and http://www.sundayherald.com/ A couple of summers ago B&S played at the Barrelands in Glasgow, it was really great. I hope this year it'll be even better! There was a massive sinister meetup last time round too... Maybe England vs Scotland sinisterfitba rematch is in order! Ken _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=186&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Sun Feb 23 22:41:10 2003 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 22:41:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: a frisson of vicarious transgression Message-ID: Afterwards we stood outside, sorting things out, weighing them up etc, it was late, the music on the system had been fun, I think I^�d enjoyed it more than the others ^� or in a different way perhaps. Typically I couldn^�t concentrate on the conversation, instead turning my thoughts to the late night mobile greasy spoon cart parked just outside, a scrap of a queue bustling round it drunkenly ^� food nobody needed, that they^�d regret whenever. We had torn posters down from the walls, I^�ve done it myself, things saved, and they never check your bag here, in or out. And the plight of the man with such unsociable hours, out in the muggy heat of his portable kitchen, out in the dead cold of the early hours began to bother me, that he could only catch the tail end of people^�s fun, all those snatches of conversations, ours included, must be a world apart to him, a world he might make a living out of, but isn^�t a part of. I wondered how you could romanticise this, if it was possible, Roddy Doyle came close, but then I suppose his books always do. I thought a picture might suffice, but I didn^�t have my camera with me, perhaps next time. I glance back to hear someone ask me a question; I nod in reply, a yes. Then we part ways, half this and half that. I walk home very slowly and in near complete silence with K and M, who are staying over, K is in a bad mood, but thankfully not with me. When I wake up the next morning they^�ve both left and gone without a trace. Jay organised the Sinister Valentines Exchange and though I am unaware of what inner machinations were taking place, it all went swimmingly from my end, despite the long address. A big thank you to Jay for all that. Recently I^�ve taken to (no matter how I phrase this it^�s going to sound weird, however liberally I employ scare quotes, so I^�m just going to go for it) ^�borrowing^� people^�s disks that get left in computer rooms around the university ^� it^�s becoming a habit, and not a very pleasant one at that. It started quite innocently, as these things so often do, with my accidentally shoving a disk which had been left in the drive of the computer I was working into my bag on a couple of weeks ago. Arriving at home to find the rogue floppy I, out of pure curiosity and I suppose the hazy notion that I might be able to discover the identity of the owner and return the disk to them, put it into my computer here and had a look. Now you might be expecting me to have found some almighty revelation or piece of blackmail-worthy salaciousness. But no. What I did find was a CV, an application form to work on the tills at Morrison^�s (and you wouldn^�t believe the questions you have to answer to land one of those oh so desirable positions, they want to know your shoe size and everything!) and a couple of charts and tables for, I presume, some Chemistry experiment which meant nothing to me really. The overly intrusive questions from the people at Morrison^�s aside you might be thinking there was nothing of interest there at all ^� except you wouldn^�t because, well, you aren^�t stupid (that^�s not my official line on Sinister by the way, just for the purposes of this), and I^�ve already told you that it *was* of interest. Quite why is more difficult to tally without seeming creepy or, worse still, sinister (ahem). But I suppose it stems from ideas about public and private, about how the way people write differs from how they communicate verbally, how people want themselves to be perceived, what exam grades and former employments tell us about a person, what an essay tells us about a person, and so on, I^�m really not doing it justice here, I suppose I have to include the illicit thrill of intrusion, of being a voyeur too, that does it. And in this chemistry student^�s list of menial jobs versus really quite impressive exam grades (including an A* at art for GCSE) versus her predictably MOR list of interests (the novels of Terry Pratchett and swimming) was a kind of insight that you can^�t really get anywhere else, anonymous and incomplete, more the bland negative table space than actual pieces, just a glimpse or a snatch of overheard conversation ^� a bit like the people swishing past my friend and I at the train station that I found fascinating and he found dull. The next morning I put the disk back more or less where found it, hopefully she hadn^�t gone back for it before that ^� I^�ve put all of them back so far, it^�s only fair, they might be in need of the information, or just not inclined to retype it all, or it might be their only disk, or whatever. But since then I have found a clutch of disks left lying around all over the place (you^�d be surprised how many people are so neglectful), and have read all sorts of bits and pieces, a girl^�s geography essay containing the most unenthusiastic call to arms to save the planet that I^�ve ever come across, a Muse discography copied from some fansite, various graphs and charts which, with no frame of reference, I have no hope of decoding. Sometimes without names, or even indications of personalities ^� a set of unmarked, unannotated graphs lumped together with a photo of Angkor Wat at sunset. I think I want people to surprise me, but then I^�m glad when they don^�t, or when they only do a bit, in a non-threatening way. I can^�t help it ^� I was shocked when I heard Eminem swear, so used was I to hearing the cut versions on the radio that when I downloaded that Kid 606 song where he speeds up the vocal on ^�Purple Pills^� it honestly threw me ^� ditto when I heard the uncut versions of those much loved singles also on the download. God bless the interweb. I was thinking, perhaps in an attempt to reign-in this vaguely worrying use of my time I might invest in some cheap disks and then leave them lying around ^� with, I don^�t know, something elaborate but ridiculous, theatrical but non-threatening on them ^� and stick an email address on too and see if I get any replies. Disk art. Something like that. I^�m going to give this a rest now before I start sounding like the guy from ^�Teeth n Smiles^� who went around with a severed finger in his pocket in order to seem ^�interesting^�. Bloody medical students. Today was, I think, the best day of the year so far. Weatherwise that is. I went out for a long walk, taking routes I don^�t normally bother with. It was nice. I wont bore you with the details, except one. The route that I chose took me through some of the more well to do areas of Sheffield, replete with big gaunt houses set away from the pavement, big, lush gardens and so forth. So there I was wandering through there thinking how pleasant it all was, not a soul about or anything, not even cars, when across the road I spot a boy, who can^�t have been older than fifteen I don^�t think, perhaps not quite as young as he looked (but whoever is in this day and age? Oh ho ho ho!) given that he was sporting what I can only describe as the most massivest mohican haircut I have ever seen. Even two superlatives don^�t do it^�s biggest-ness justice. Huge it was. And dyed every conceivable colour except, perhaps, yellow. He was attired in classic punxor chic (er, whatever that is) ^� I wanted to take a photo, but I thought it might seem entirely rude, and as he passed I noticed that he had ^�Crass^� who I quite like, written in tipp-ex on the back of his studded leather jacket, along with a slew of other band^�s I^�m not so familiar with. I thought briefly about shouting ^�Fight war, not wars!^� after him, but that passed quickly enough. What does it mean to rebel like that anymore? To be different. Duffle coats don^�t even mark you out as an indiekid anymore do they? Everyone^�s got one. How out of place did that kid seem amongst the Sunday afternoon birdsong and posh houses? How out of place indeed. Perhaps that wasn^�t what he wanted anyway. I bet he doesn^�t even like Avril Lavigne. In other news, how homo-erotic is ^�Moby-Dick^�? They left that bit out of ^�The Pagemaster^� didn^�t they? I^�m still reeling. Also I^�ve been reading John Cage and am planning on writing my next post with the aid of the I Ching. Well, again I'd like to write more on this one too, but I'm sure you wouldn't and plus they've kicked off with Van Morrison next door or across the way, loud enough so I can't tell, so I'm off to do something else. And there are disk drives that need checking. Et bien, - Kieran _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Sun Feb 23 23:13:52 2003 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:13:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: RETREAD w/ added omissions Message-ID: (i *****H8***** that crazy transmogrification of inverted commas - i've heard it happens to men a lot but, well, that was my first time. honest. here's how it should have looked folx) Afterwards we stood outside, sorting things out, weighing them up etc, it was late, the music on the system had been fun, I think I�d enjoyed it more than the others � or in a different way perhaps. Typically I couldn�t concentrate on the conversation, instead turning my thoughts to the late night mobile greasy spoon cart parked just outside, a scrap of a queue bustling round it drunkenly � food nobody needed, that they�d regret whenever. We had torn posters down from the walls, I�ve done it myself, things saved, and they never check your bag here, in or out. And the plight of the man with such unsociable hours, out in the muggy heat of his portable kitchen, out in the dead cold of the early hours began to bother me, that he could only catch the tail end of people�s fun, all those snatches of conversations, ours included, must be a world apart to him, a world he might make a living out of, but isn�t a part of. I wondered how you could romanticise this, if it was possible, Roddy Doyle came close, but then I suppose his books always do. I thought a picture might suffice, but I didn�t have my camera with me, perhaps next time. I glance back to hear someone ask me a question; I nod in reply, a yes. Then we part ways, half this and half that. I walk home very slowly and in near complete silence with K and M, who are staying over, K is in a bad mood, but thankfully not with me. When I wake up the next morning they�ve both left and gone without a trace. Jay organised the Sinister Valentines Exchange and though I am unaware of what inner machinations were taking place, it all went swimmingly from my end, despite the long address. A big thank you to Jay for all that. Recently I�ve taken to (no matter how I phrase this it�s going to sound weird, however liberally I employ scare quotes, so I�m just going to go for it) �borrowing� people�s disks that get left in computer rooms around the university � it�s becoming a habit, and not a very pleasant one at that. It started quite innocently, as these things so often do, with my accidentally shoving a disk which had been left in the drive of the computer I was working into my bag on a couple of weeks ago. Arriving at home to find the rogue floppy I, out of pure curiosity and I suppose the hazy notion that I might be able to discover the identity of the owner and return the disk to them, put it into my computer here and had a look. Now you might be expecting me to have found some almighty revelation or piece of blackmail-worthy salaciousness. But no. What I did find was a CV, an application form to work on the tills at Morrison�s (and you wouldn�t believe the questions you have to answer to land one of those oh so desirable positions, they want to know your shoe size and everything!) and a couple of charts and tables for, I presume, some Chemistry experiment which meant nothing to me really. The overly intrusive questions from the people at Morrison�s aside you might be thinking there was nothing of interest there at all � except you wouldn�t because, well, you aren�t stupid (that�s not my official line on Sinister by the way, just for the purposes of this), and I�ve already told you that it *was* of interest. Quite why is more difficult to tally without seeming creepy or, worse still, sinister (ahem). But I suppose it stems from ideas about public and private, about how the way people write differs from how they communicate verbally, how people want themselves to be perceived, what exam grades and former employments tell us about a person, what an essay tells us about a person, and so on, I�m really not doing it justice here, I suppose I have to include the illicit thrill of intrusion, of being a voyeur too, that does it. And in this chemistry student�s list of menial jobs versus really quite impressive exam grades (including an A* at art for GCSE) versus her predictably MOR list of interests (the novels of Terry Pratchett and swimming) was a kind of insight that you can�t really get anywhere else, anonymous and incomplete, more the bland negative table space than actual pieces, just a glimpse or a snatch of overheard conversation � a bit like the people swishing past my friend and I at the train station that I found fascinating and he found dull. The next morning I put the disk back more or less where found it, hopefully she hadn�t gone back for it before that � I�ve put all of them back so far, it�s only fair, they might be in need of the information, or just not inclined to retype it all, or it might be their only disk, or whatever. But since then I have found a clutch of disks left lying around all over the place (you�d be surprised how many people are so neglectful), and have read all sorts of bits and pieces, a girl�s geography essay containing the most unenthusiastic call to arms to save the planet that I�ve ever come across, a Muse discography copied from some fansite, various graphs and charts which, with no frame of reference, I have no hope of decoding. Sometimes without names, or even indications of personalities � a set of unmarked, unannotated graphs lumped together with a photo of Angkor Wat at sunset. I think I want people to surprise me, but then I�m glad when they don�t, or when they only do a bit, in a non-threatening way. I can�t help it � I was shocked when I heard Eminem swear, so used was I to hearing the cut versions on the radio that when I downloaded that Kid 606 song where he speeds up the vocal on �Purple Pills� it honestly threw me � ditto when I heard the uncut versions of those much loved singles also on the download. God bless the interweb. I was thinking, perhaps in an attempt to reign-in this vaguely worrying use of my time I might invest in some cheap disks and then leave them lying around � with, I don�t know, something elaborate but ridiculous, theatrical but non-threatening on them � and stick an email address on too and see if I get any replies. Disk art. Something like that. I�m going to give this a rest now before I start sounding like the guy from �Teeth n Smiles� who went around with a severed finger in his pocket in order to seem �interesting�. Bloody medical students. Today was, I think, the best day of the year so far. Weatherwise that is. I went out for a long walk, taking routes I don�t normally bother with. It was nice. I wont bore you with the details, except one. The route that I chose took me through some of the more well to do areas of Sheffield, replete with big gaunt houses set away from the pavement, big, lush gardens and so forth. So there I was wandering through there thinking how pleasant it all was, not a soul about or anything, not even cars, when across the road I spot a boy, who can�t have been older than fifteen I don�t think, perhaps not quite as young as he looked (but whoever is in this day and age? Oh ho ho ho!) given that he was sporting what I can only describe as the most massivest mohican haircut I have ever seen. Even two superlatives don�t do it�s biggest-ness justice. Huge it was. And dyed every conceivable colour except, perhaps, yellow. He was attired in classic punxor chic (er, whatever that is) � I wanted to take a photo, but I thought it might seem entirely rude, and as he passed I noticed that he had �Crass� who I quite like, written in tipp-ex on the back of his studded leather jacket, along with a slew of other band�s I�m not so familiar with. I thought briefly about shouting �Fight war, not wars!� after him, but that passed quickly enough. What does it mean to rebel like that anymore? To be different. Duffle coats don�t even mark you out as an indiekid anymore do they? Everyone�s got one. How out of place did that kid seem amongst the Sunday afternoon birdsong and posh houses? How out of place indeed. Perhaps that wasn�t what he wanted anyway. I bet he doesn�t even like Avril Lavigne. In other news, how homo-erotic is �Moby-Dick�? They left that bit out of �The Pagemaster� didn�t they? I�m still reeling. Also I�ve been reading John Cage and am planning on writing my next post with the aid of the I Ching. Well, again I'd like to write more on this one too, but I'm sure you wouldn't and plus they've kicked off with Van Morrison next door or across the way, loud enough so I can't tell, so I'm off to do something else. And there are disk drives that need checking. Mind Out, - Kieran _________________________________________________________________ Overloaded with spam? With MSN 8, you can filter it out http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=32&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mess_up_my_hair at xxx.com Mon Feb 24 12:29:47 2003 From: mess_up_my_hair at xxx.com (Alex Goffey) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:29:47 +1000 Subject: Sinister: postmen and parallel universities Message-ID: Hello hello, So my life as a lazy uni student on holidays has ended, and as of today, I've reverted back to just being a lazy uni student. Well, maybe I'm not actually *that* lazy, since I bothered to turn up to a 9am lecture on a Monday morning on the first day of classes. So that has to count for something. Nevertheless, it surely has to be slightly better than working in an office job..although, with my current brainless job in a supermarket and working on weekends to actually pay for things, a decent job wouldn't be too bad. I can see my three hour breaks being used for the sole purpose of procrastinatory activities - oh the temptation, good record stores are a 10 minute walk away! On the upside, I get to make videos this semester. And I'm also seeing The Breeders on Sunday. Yay! On the downside, no valentines present has yet arrived for me, despite mine reaching the Perth part of Australia in good time. Boo hiss. I am certain that the mailman conspires against me - once, a mixtape from Sweden took seven months to land in my mailbox. Seven months! Another time a mixtape was sent back to me because the address had washed off. I suspect those conspiring postmen spilt their beer on it...or I shouldn't have written the address in texta. I blame the posties. It's raining outside, and I think it's going to keep raining for the next few days. The best thing about rain is sitting on a train, by a window, either reading or sleeping or looking out, listening to records. Last semester, when I bought 'Tigermilk', it had permanent residence in my discman and hence, helped me survive the semester. I think I'll employ it again this year. Amazingly, today I didn't fall asleep on the train, but tomorrow might be a different story... Oh good, Australia is doing well in the cricket...hmmm well actually, how could we not??? xox Alex p.s. I would just like to declare that Astrid is great, and so are Christine and Elizabeth. Yay! ========================================= The best looking boys are taken The best looking girls are staying inside http://www.geocities.com/veruca_salt_97/ http://darlingalex.diaryland.com/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones.�Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com Mon Feb 24 13:15:59 2003 From: paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com (Paulo Stinsoni) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:15:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: In Be-TWEE-n Days, or something Message-ID: Twee? When I was a young(er) man, me and my friends would listen to music branded as "twee". They were such wonderful collaborations as "The Field Mice", the beautiful "Tallulah Gosh" (and "Heavenly" of course), the "Haywains", the "Fat Tulips", "BMX bandits", (none of those would get through the Pop Idols process, thank God) oh lots of them, and I can't remember them now, as is often the case when you try (I suppose if I didn't try to remember, I wouldn't fail). Anyway, now I hear all you youngsters throwing the "T" word about like a comfy old cardigan, and I like it. When I first heard B&S I was falling asleep in a young lady's room, and as I listened to "Is it wicked not to care" it was a like falling back in time as I fell asleep. All those old fanzines, the Whaaa CD, compilation tapes, flexis, Sarah records, it all drifted back as I drifted to sleep. Putting it all together it got me thinking. How old are all of you out there? (I am 34, can I look down at you all as a granddaddy of twee? Probly (I like to misspell that word) not, but I bet I'm in the upper quartile) Do you remember the old twee days of the late 80's early 90's? If you do remember then tell me what you miss, I want to know. Thanks for listening Paulo PS Laura Llew - I haven't got a trading card, am I missing something? (other than the trading card, and your love) PPS Yazaar! _________________________________________________________________ Overloaded with spam? With MSN 8, you can filter it out http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=32&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Mon Feb 24 14:05:00 2003 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:05:00 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: provincial picnicage agogo Message-ID: OK, you can come down off your tenterhooks now. The fourth (?) official Brighton pic/pubnic is going ahead as planned this Saturday, 1st March, St David's Day etc. It will begin with me gathering up whichsoever of you are coming on trains at the station, at 3pm or thereabouts depending on train arrival times. Then I imagine we will hit The George, a nice pub at the bottom of Trafalgar Street (left turn down the hill outside station.) From there, who knows? The beach will be involved I dare say, with melancholy inspection of collapsed pier included. Also DDR and related FUN. Speaking of which, I nominate KEN as London co-ordinator person... so contact him to make arrangements for travelling together? I can put up a few people at my flat, but only 3 or 4 really, so let me know if you need to be one of them! My phone number is 07944 074873 and I hope you realise just how trusting I am of you all to give out that information :) So that's: Brighton Saturday 1st March 3pm onwards And I'll confirm all this again before the end of the week. Hope to see you there! Love Archel ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. Email submissions at buzzwords.ndo.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Mon Feb 24 13:38:59 2003 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:38:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Let's make a weekend of it Message-ID: <20030224133859.58520.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> Dear Sinisterines I note with interest that our favourite band have decided to play in Glasgow on the 17th of May. The reason for my interest is that the night before there is a Winchester Club! This is a good sign. I predict a weekend of festivity, fun and, especially, frolics. May I suggest the following plan? Night of Friday 16th May: The Winchester Club with performance from hot new Elefant band Language of Flowers Afternoon of Saturday 17th May: First (Scottish) piquenique of the season, in a park, somewhere in Glasgow Night of Saturday 17th May: B&S at the Royal Concert Hall Sunday 18th May: Be hungover All weekend: Creation of hot gossip! What do you think? I feel all excited and bouncy. I think we should have our picnic somewhere with a netball court so the girls can wear little skirts and knee-high socks and airtex shirts and have their hair in bunchies. Last night, team Sinister won another pub quiz! We are da brainz. Unfortunately, first prize was a bottle of voddy, not shareable between half a dozen or so people so Arik thieved it for himself. Not really, we drew lots like civilized people and then cursed Arik for winning. Pah! At least I stunned the team with my in-depth knowledge of international laundry symbols. Big Stu's reporting back was brill. The thought of Isobel with permed hair made me spill my tea. That's not a euphemism. I was thinking how odd it was I don't see her around Glasgow like so many other members of that band who turn up sporting cravats at the CCA when you least expect it, but maybe she actually *has* been in the same places as me and I just couldn't see her for curls. I wonder if she has opted for the corkscrew variety of perm. And if she used an Afro comb to bush it out. And what kind of 'product' she used on it. Whenever Stine says "have a toadie day" I always think of Toadie in Neighbours. This isn't particularly pleasant. If you don't know what I'm on about, there is a picture of him here: http://www.neighbours.com/ (he's the one with the beard) But I'm sure Stine doesn't mean to inflict this pain on me :) See you all soon! Juicy Lucy ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ ************************************************** The Winchester Club http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Mon Feb 24 19:47:26 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:47:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: I'm always willing to learn when you've got something to teach Message-ID: <20030224194726.50511.qmail@web40614.mail.yahoo.com> G'day to all of you in sinister land. Here I sit, in weather conditions far different from those mentioned in my last post. It is around 18 degrees and snowing. sodding snow. grr. I hope that all of you had a nice weekend. I did, nothing too glamorous. shopping for flax seeds and jelly bellies, supermarket shopping for vegan cheese, soy milk, and fresh dried chammomile. a lovely lunch, some oscar wilde reading...you know, the usual. a funny thing. most everyone i know loves "The Royal Tenenbaums" When I first saw this movie, with Chris :o), I liked it well enough....I just thought that "Rushmore" and "Bottle Rocket" were far superior. Since then I have watched TRT several times and, ind myself liking it less and less. I don't think the charecters are in any way likable or interesting, and the film just bores me. I keep watching it thinking that I am missing some nuance or aesthetic that will make me understand what the bloody big deal is. I just don't see it. I start school in 2 weeks time. I am, in a word, PETRIFIED!!!!!!!!! I mean this is it, put up or shut up....etc. I am just a scoach intimidated about being the only girl, and I pray that there are people there with far less experience than mine, so I don't feel like the Forrest Gump of the class. Oh well, My 2 year old associate has just informed me that it is time to put the mac to sleep.. :o) I hope this finds all of you well. in the words of oscar wilde "Vivian, You're a FASCIST!!!" :o) ~stine __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james.thorniley at xxx.com Mon Feb 24 23:30:25 2003 From: james.thorniley at xxx.com (James Thorniley) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:30:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I could tell you a story that will make you cry Message-ID: <000001c2dc5c$b581f490$b7842090@csrv.ad.york.ac.uk> Hello sinister Oh how I have neglected you.. Missing all the recent fun. I noticed the biannual forbidden furore over what we are allowed to say on the list has gone by. No major casualties this time though I regret, its almost as if we all like each other now. I'm surely not the only one whose favourite ever sinister moment is this post: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200101/msg00348.html Ok so maybe it caused some anguish and offense at the time but in retrospect its dead funny in its pure stupidness. Ooh! I really hope I can make the gig. And Glasgow! Again! Yay! Glasgow! So my attention was distracted from Sam Walton's enchanting eyes (I assume you all saw "15 to 1"?), by melanie laubach's amazing story: >>facing the oral part...we got started and it was just a bit of small >>talk...about...gender trouble...but not that strange...must have been >>less than ten minutes...i'd passed...out...keeping on yelling...i made >>it...i passed! Oh sinister please tell me a real smutty story so I don't have to garble peoples words. Incidentally melanie your english is very good and congratulations. And here's a fun thing to do with the time - look up list celebrity's first posts. I quite enjoy the first post of Mr Kenneth P Y Chu (http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200003/msg00084.html), who takes, count them, a whole 7 lines before he tries to hit on a girl. Smooth! Now is the point where normally I would promise that next time I will send a relevant and interesting post, but frankly, I'm not going to. The next post I send will most likely be more garbled nonsense. Sometimes I wonder what people must think of me... but I normally try not to be so vain. James x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From retrosec at xxx.uk Mon Feb 24 20:59:38 2003 From: retrosec at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Retro^Sec?=) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:59:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: picnics, anthems, and blog rings Message-ID: <20030224205938.84713.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> Lucy said: I feel all excited and bouncy. I think we should have our picnic somewhere with a netball court so the girls can wear little skirts and knee-high socks and airtex shirts and have their hair in bunchies. I wanna know what the boys will wear. I'd suggest they go in birthday suits, but I don't fancy seeing a lot of weedy skinny indie boys with shrivelled bits (May is still practically February). So I shan't suggest that. 17TH may, is of course, NATIONAL NORWEGIAN DAY! Which is wonderful. Its to celebrate the day when Norway got independence, which isn't totally true, cos it was 17th of May 1814, when Norway got independence from Denmark, but went slap bang into union with Sweden. A consolation prize for being on the winning side of the Nepolonic Wars and losing Finland to Russia (Denmark had backed the wrong horse). But its the date celebrated anyway. As I recall the Norwegian parties we held at uni, it always involved vast quantities of booze, and usually more booze, and a bit of singing of national anthems, which I won't indulge you with cos I only know the first line. Anyway, its about mountains and hills and mums and dads and how they're all ace in norway, you know, the usual anthemy shit. My mum can play it on glockenspiel. Its a real girlie anthem, in terms of being able to get the right pitch. Talking of Norway, my mum is watching some film from Norway right now, and I swear, theres this bloke who looks like a cross between that dude from Ed TV, the Wedding Planner and Stuart Murdoch. Prrrr. Anyway, I shall be there, with or without bells on. My mum won't, she'll be giggly drunk by 10am and possibly sitting on the lap of some Norwegian boy student in his 20s. Every year. Sheesh. Anyway, Apart from that, I've begun a wee blog webring for sinister. Its still in the "being built" process, and you can view my progress at http://www.geocities.com/retrosec Its in progress, so hold your horses with the criticism. Hold your horses with the criticism anyway, I don't like unsolicited advice. Yes, I am ungrateful that way. I want to keep it simple, and basic becuase I can't be bothered for complexities that take forever to learn and hours to figure out whats wrong with it if something goes wrong. Ta idleberry x ===== http://retrosec.blogspot.com/ thoughts __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Tue Feb 25 02:14:00 2003 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 02:14:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: more tea vicar? In-Reply-To: <20030224133859.58520.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Lucy said: > The thought of Isobel with permed hair made me spill my tea. That's not a euphemism. Which made me wonder: If "spilling your tea" was a euphemism, what would it be a euphemism for? Words: they're great. Aren't they? x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk Tue Feb 25 09:27:29 2003 From: misguidedtrousers at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dean=20Gillon?=) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:27:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: slopdosh and its component parts Message-ID: <20030225092729.31015.qmail@web14407.mail.yahoo.com> Alreet? It has come to my attention that some people are misusing this list to talk about belle and sebastian. I think we all know this list is designed to talk about who we like, which person we wish would like us but doesn't, and which person does like us but we wish wouldn't (phew). Really though, you can tell spring is in the air! - you can't move round here lately without wading through tons of hormones, pheromones and such like. And just to prove my point; this classic line by Lucy: I think we should have our picnic somewhere with a netball court so the girls can wear little skirts and knee-high socks and airtex shirts and have their hair in bunchies. I don't mind telling everyone that I almost spilt my tea. Maybe this amorousness has always been here after reading Ken's shameless attempts to pull young girls on the list? Gotta go Dean XX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james.thorniley at xxx.com Wed Feb 26 01:52:30 2003 From: james.thorniley at xxx.com (James Thorniley) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 01:52:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: KEN CHU MAKE ME HORNY?!!! Message-ID: <000101c2dd39$b915e750$b6842090@csrv.ad.york.ac.uk> Hey sinister Goddamn I hope I get tickets for that gig. Wow two posts in two days, are you proud? I recall there was once some suggestion that you could only post on weekends if you were drunk, Well hey, its Tuesday but I'm a student!!! JEN KNUTSSON!!! (Have I spelt that right?... I wonder) In response to discussions on Ken Chu says "I'm Horny!" Oh yes. See you all soon. James xx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From j_gabriel86 at xxx.com Wed Feb 26 03:16:14 2003 From: j_gabriel86 at xxx.com (Joao Gabriel Resende) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 00:16:14 -0300 Subject: Sinister: First appearance Message-ID: Greetings ! Although I have subscribed myself to this list last year (which isn't actually so far) this is the first time I come here to introduce myself.. (yes, I'm lazy, so what? hehehehe) Well, I don't believe there is much you'd like to know about me... As I have read in your e-mails, you really have a very active life and you're always doing something interesting, which gives you all something to post here... But that's not my case.. I don't actually have any nice (or bad) experience to tell you here, and I'm sorry... (sorry for not being an interesting person like you all are) I'm João Gabriel (Joao for those who can't read the ~), a 16 years old brazilian boy, law student, Belle and Sebastian fan (oh!!!) and I subscribed myself here because I always wanted to meet B&S fans all around the world. And well, this tis the best place for that, right? Here where I live (in Brasília, the capital, for those who think that the capital is Rio de Janeiro or Buenos Aires) the only person I know who likes Belle et Sebastian is my friend Daniela, who introduced me to the band. Well, I really thank her for that. So I subscribed here (again this word "subscribed"? hehehe) to know what do belle ans sebastian's fans think about the band around the world... I hope you are friendly enough to accept me here, as a member among you all =) hehehe (ok, I learnt how to make this "drama-appeal" with the mexican soap operas...but I won't cry, I promise...) Ever since I subscribed (---) I've been reading each message from this list I get (ok, not "every", but you know what I mean, right??) and it made me think about how interesting people could be, out of my country. You're very nice people! So I come here to compliment you all... I would like to make some friends here too, no matter how old they are, or what they look like (really), or where they come from... because I think that friendship needn't this sort of boundary or limit... Don't you agree?? Ok, I have to stop now, otherwise in a few moments I'll be saying "I'm an angel from Heaven sent by God to help you"... hhahahahahaah (if you didn't understand that, watch "touched by an angel" and you will... in every single episode they have to repeat this line!) So, if anyone here ever wants to contact me, just send an e-mail, or my ICQ # is 146879897 (is it ok if I publish my number here? I'm sorry if it isn't, I just did it... hehehe) So, that's it... nice to meet you all ! nice to be here in the list with you all! João Gabriel ( ps: by the way, this list is really about belle and sebastian, right? or am I in the wrong place?? =/ ) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger: converse com os seus amigos online. http://messenger.msn.com.br +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jk151 at xxx.uk Wed Feb 26 15:41:05 2003 From: jk151 at xxx.uk (Jennifer Knutsson) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:41:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Jimmy Saville once winked at me in a restaurant Message-ID: <000001c2ddad$79884690$b2842090@csrv.ad.york.ac.uk> Hello sinister Many many things to say... But if I went into them all I might get asked to leave the list as most of them involve calling James Thorniley names that aren't nice, so I will simply say this: (NB: skip this bit if you hate it when members of the list who know each other off-list start being too ---) James was really drunk last night. we were talking about the glasgow gig and how excited we were about it. he said I would get to meet lots of list celebrities. I said "ooh do you think I will get to meet Honey?!" I like to think that it was because of the loud cheesy music playing in the club that we were in at the time (Toffs in York, for those of you that are interested in these things), but more likely due to the 4 pints and the bottle of pineapple VK that he had consumed (he does get drunk fairly easily, it has to be said), james misheard me. Now, no offense to the lovely Mr Chu, whose posts often make me giggle at my computer, but *I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT!!* I am still quite new around these parts and so far have been keeping a fairly low profile, and for Mr Thorniley to be spreading these dare I say malicious rumours about me just isn't fair. Not that there is anything wrong with being horny, or even shouting about it really loud in some goddawful nightclub full of the university rugby team and all the town's resident meat-heads (please note that I am not saying that the rugby team are all meat-heads, I leave you to draw your own conclusions on that one), but its just not me! So there. Ok, rant over. In other news, we rang up today and booked our tickets for the Glasgow gig... Its all very exciting for me as this will be my first ever B&S concert, and indeed my first ever Sinister meet-up that doesn't just involve people that I have already met through York Sinister Massive (TM). Who really are very nice people. Which reminds me, for those of you that tuned in to see Sam Walton's appearance on 15-to-1, did you notice how extraordinarily short the two ladies on the right hand side of him were? He is quite tall anyway but they were incredible(ly small). Hmm, I'm digressing again. I was determined to make this post better than my previous efforts, but to no avail. So I may as well just plough on with the silly irrelevant stuff instead. No more mentions of people that I have actually met. For example, when Lucy (whom I have never met) said << Whenever Stine says "have a toadie day" I always think of Toadie in Neighbours. This isn't particularly pleasant. If you don't know what I'm on about, there is a picture of him here: http://www.neighbours.com/ (he's the one with the beard) But I'm sure Stine doesn't mean to inflict this pain on me :) >> I was surprised as I thought everyone loved Toadie, formerly a loveable rogue and now a gen-U-ine nice guy lawyer who still looks after his friend Sarah's dog even though Sarah went away on holiday to London about 5 years ago and shows no signs of returning. Today has been a really nice day, weather-wise, and indeed fun-wise, and the prospect of tonights indie quiz just makes it even better. Call me keen, I don't care!! (Call me horny, I get cross!) A friend from home made me a mix tape that I got at the weekend and since then I have been enjoying mull historical society and the new white stripes single, as well as remembering how great the delgadoes are. Sorry, my post hasn't included any touching tales of triumph over diversity, or even any good puns... I've just kind of babbled a bit and tried to stop Ken Chu being scared of me. Hmph. When I was in Glasgow a few weeks ago visiting an old friend (and walking past kelvingrove park several times, completely oblivious to the interview taking place there at the time) I overheard two men chatting as they walked down the street. One said to the other "it really is the holy grail of radio journalism" which has really stuck with me ever since. I'm not really sure what it means, but perhaps writing a coherent post could be my Sinister holy grail. Enough. Take care, Jen xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Thu Feb 27 06:41:56 2003 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:41:56 +0700 Subject: Sinister: bowling big balls, planning perth picnics Message-ID: hi, There was some Sinister bowling action last weekend here in Perth. Present were jovial Jeremy, monumental Marcus (an honourary Sinisterine for the night), tremendous Trixie Firecracker (who is visiting Perth at the moment) and marvellous me. Highlights included Marcus' 150 something score and several strikes from everyone. Most impressive though was Trixie's amazing feat of bowling a gutter ball, then a foul, then a strike. To the naked (or contacted lensed or glassesed[?]) eye this may simply appear to be a demonstration of her amazing array of skills, but on the scorecard it read*: Marcus 5/ 9- 7/ ... Terry X X X X X X X ... Jeremy 7/ 81 9/ ... Trixie OF X 61 ... Trixie of X. Cool hey? Maybe you had to be there... Talking about having to be there, if you are in Perth you have to be there tomorrow (Friday) at our Sinister Picnic in King's Park! Meet at my house (6/16 Monash Avenue, Nedlands, Ph: 9389 5001) at 12:30pm. There will be frisbee throwing, some football kicking, sausages, beer, gin, passionfruit wine and assorted snacky stuff. And Belle and Sebastian on the stereo of course. Plus there is an excellent playground with swings and dinosaurs and turtles! bye, terry *one of these scores may have been grossly exaggerated. Can you guess which one? --- here's what i think: http://naivetysucceeds.blogspot.com caitlin and terry's sinister recipe tree archives: http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/sinifood/ _____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Thu Feb 27 10:19:53 2003 From: lulou at xxx.org (Linda Kerr) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:19:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Forwarded news from Banchory Message-ID: Hi everyone Below is an email from Katrina regarding the concert. While I am here, just to say that if you do post a drunken email to sinister, firstly it is probably not a good idea, but only probably, as some people function better that way, but also, it isn't really necessary to apologise - well-intentioned as it might be It is sweet to try to make up for it, but there have been a flurry of these recently. Also, please try to remember that short (ie two line) posts have to be really, really good ("Stuart is on the telly now!", rather than "I passed my exams.") Cheers everyone, and hi to the picnic people in Brighton on Saturday, and sinister picnics everywhere. Linda ********************************************************************** Forwarded message: Hi all, On top of the recent confirmation of the the bands' appearance at the Concern Concert for Africa, we are pleased to announce that Belle & Sebastian will appear at Primavera Sound 2003 in Barcelona. The festival runs on the 23rd and 24th May and B&S will headline the main stage on Friday 23rd. Tickets for the two-day festival are available now from Ticktackticket at http://www.ticktackticket.com/ and cost 52.00 Euros for entry on both days. A maximum of 6 tickets are available per transaction. This website is available conveniently in Spanish and English You can find out more information about the festival from their website at http://www.primaverasound.com/ - it's in Catalan only though! All these details are also on the news page of our website at http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home Cheers, Katrina @ Banchory. http://www.banchory.net http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Thu Feb 27 12:08:42 2003 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:08:42 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: the final countdown Message-ID: OK, last slick of picnic stuff I promise. The best train to get if coming from London will, I think, be the 13.38 from Victoria. THERE ARE ENGINEERING WORKS on the line all weekend, so a replacement bus will go from Haywards Heath to Brighton :( But it's not far. The bus is supposed to arrive at Brighton station at 15:10, so I will be there to meet it. Anyone not getting that train/bus and arriving after about 15:30 should probably head straight for the George pub at the bottom of Trafalgar Street (left turn down the hill under bridge outside station). Or just phone me on 07944 074873. Space is VERY tight at mine overnight now, so if you're not one of those already booked in (Liz, Rob, Robin, Ken, Mark) (and Ian???) be prepared to either get home, stay elsewhere, or sleep in the bath or other small space. (Which you're welcome to try.) Bring food and drink (mainly drink) and possibly an umbrella! And presents for me. Or Mark as it's his birthday soon. Love Archel xxx PS. Another date for your diaries might be Monday 28th April, as the Go Betweens are playing at the London Astoria. I am thinking of taking Tuesday off work and going up there, if anyone wants to accompany me/possibly put me up for the night? ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. Email submissions at buzzwords.ndo.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Thu Feb 27 14:24:01 2003 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:24:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: today's headlines, it's a sad day in the neighborhood Message-ID: <20030227142401.64040.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> i woke up this morning and learned that Mr. Rogers has died. he died in his home last night. mr. mcfeeley announced it this morning. mr. rogers is just one of those people who you take for granted, assuming they will always be around. a person who's sole goal in life was to make people feel better about themselves and the world around them. he touched me and so many other people, helping us to be nicer, to not be scared, to smile and be ourselves. the headlines this morning speak of nuclear arms, impending war, growing alcoholism among youths, and the death of Mr. Rogers. it's a very very sad day. but i know that his sentiments and songs and ideas will live on in all of us. the neighborhood of make-believe will live on. .caleb ben p.s. please hug someone today and tell them that you love them. ===== "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a harder battle." ~Plato "Love does not consist of gazing at each other, but in looking together in the same direction." -Antoine de Saint-Exupery __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Thu Feb 27 19:30:45 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:30:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: working is the curse of the drinking classes Message-ID: <20030227193045.53547.qmail@web40610.mail.yahoo.com> hi everyone. stine here. upon reading caleb ben moore's post, i couldn't help but agree. I have been sad about the passing of mr. rogers all day. it's funny, even at the age of 25, it still doesn't occur to me that people are mortal. there are certain people who, in their passing, i missed a great deal. people whom i have never met. people who, in one instance, i never really even listened to. i remember when joey ramone died. i was just sick about it for days. i was never really a fan of the ramones, but i wasn't not a fan either. i think that they were instrumental, though perhaps not literally, in creating a path, and in many ways, and ideal, for the music that many of us listen to now. i remember listening to an interview with bono, or bongo if you're dirty vicar. :o) anyway. he was talking about how amazed he was when he learned that as joey ramone lay dying in his bed, he requested to hear the U2 song "In A Little While." Bono said that he had never felt more successful at anything, as he did when he heard that. that one of his heroes was thinking of a song he wrote in the final moments of his life. . Bono then went on to explain that that song was written as a sort of requieum for a hangover and after joey ramone's passing, it took on this beautiful, gospel quality. weird. i have been sick again lately. i don't know why. i have been eating what i am supposed to and not eating what i'm not supposed to. it's so bloody frustrating. i dream of the day when I can comfortably put on jeans, not having to worry about how swollen my stomach may be on a given day. dreaming of the day when I can wear cute clothes again, instead of the overalls and adidas warm up's that grace my wardrobe now. i wonder if i will ever get this "condition" of mine under control. if i have been diagnosed with the right thing even. it seems to me that after 3 or 4 months, you should start to feel a little bit better if you're behaving according to schedule. grr. i have also been plagued with something else. well, plagued is probably a scoach too dramatic a word. i have a week off in a couple of weeks. i was going to go to dallas, but i don't think i am going to anymore. i was thinking of going to minnesota to visit family for a few days, but i don't know that i want to do that either. i would love to go back to england/ireland, unfortunately that is just not an option right now. i need to get away from here though. i need to get away from my life for awhile. to go somewhere where i don't have $20,000 in medical bills. somewhere where i don't have to deal with my family constantly asking "How are you doing?" I know they mean well, some of them anyway, i'm just tired of it. let's see. in the past 9 months i have a) been in and out of hospitals b) been sick for the better part if that time c) gotten into so much trouble with money that I doubt my life will ever be better and d) lost my father...on christmas of all days. I'm doing swell. couldn't be better. jaysus. sorry bout that. my family is driving me nuts though. if any of you would be interested in a trade you can reach me at 555-9532. :o) ah well. onto bigger and better things. much love to all of you. i'm so glad that you're my neighbours. :o) in the words of oscar wilde....."in a little while, surely you'll be mine. in a little while i'll be there. in a little while, this hurt will hurt no more." ~stine "i can resist everything except temptation." __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Thu Feb 27 23:12:30 2003 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 23:12:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Northern Lights Message-ID: Hello Sinister, I write to you again from sunny Ireland, to tell you about how I am not going to go to the B&S gig in Glasgow. It does seem like an appealing prospect, but my glamorous assistant and I have decided to throw away our money on a weekend in Reykjavik. I hear it's a real party town and the kind of place where swingers like us will be welcome. I also have the vague idea it's a somewhat indie place, but that may be because Jaz Coleman of the Killing Joke fled there to escape nuclear war, and also Saton Albarn owns a pub there. I went to see some of that live music last night. Two *local* bands. First up was Neo Supervital, who is this bloke who plays electropop tinged music all on his own. He is rather amiable, but playing music like that he should maybe be wearing a silver cape or something like that. He did the odd thing of playing a cover version of 'Theme From Chalets' by The Chalets, the other band on the bill, which was a larf, particularly as he did all the squeaky girly vocals in a squeaky girly fashion. A crazy world. The Chalets rocked hard as usual. Actually, I don't think they used to rock quite as hard as this, but as a dirty vicar I certainly approve of their new rocky direction. Many of the crowd weren't quite so convinced, with applause and suchlike being a bit desultory. But such is Dublin. Soon they will play Glasgow and you can learn to love them for yourself. Beyond that, I'm trying to finally clear the mountain of tapes I've promised to do for people. The forward thinking sounds of Acid Mothers Temple are filling up the Vicarage even as we speak, so Mr Anscombe's life can look forward to being just a little bit more spaced out in the relatively near future. beyond that, I have little to say. Those of you who hang out in *THE OTHER PLACE* might bump into me next weekend in Nottingham. bless, DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Fri Feb 28 01:16:58 2003 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:16:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: dim sum a-tasting Message-ID: Today on the way back home I'm telling you I caught the sun, or I would have if there were still sunlight when I leave work. Anyway, on my way back from work I went on the tube, and a very familiar voice started talking to me... "I spent the summer wasting, the time was passed so pleasantly..." .. well yeah I did too... Wait! Stuart Murdoch is right next to me, I turned round, and the only person I saw wasn't Stuart Murdoch, but instead a girl with her walkman on (and 3948 other people - it was a very packed train). It turned outed that she had the whole of TWATTYBUS album on her walkman and so it made my journey home a whole lot better because she had it on loud enough so I could listen to it. Unfortunately my journey home was made a lot worse by the fact that the man next to me REALLY SMELLED - like those cuddly toys that people keep sending Isobel. His odour of old prison food took a long time to pass me by. And at the time I happened to have the GLASGOW B&S GIG ticket in my pocket too because I'd just got that in the post this morning on the way to work, and I was going to Brag about this fact to that girl had the train not been so packed.. so I didn't.. so I'm going to brag HERE instead! WOOOO I GOT MY TICKET! Wahey Glasgow Gig here I come. Yes Anyway. Brighton on Saturday, from London, what to do? As Archel said there will be a train/bus DOUBLE WHAMMY from London Victoria at 13:38. The best idea is probably to get there for 13:00, as from past experience we know that it takes ages to get a ticket, and then off to Brighton we all go. Easy! Complication factor = 0. Ahh yes. Students getting drunk and horny. Those were the days. Just remember what Frankie sez, kids. Ken P.S.: Nice to see the Australian massiv are getting into the bowling spirit! One day, there should be a Sinister Bowling ASHES. The Trixie OF X scoreline was obviously: a TRIX SHOT! Haha. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mayfly5502 at xxx.com Fri Feb 28 04:43:29 2003 From: Mayfly5502 at xxx.com (Mayfly5502 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 23:43:29 EST Subject: Sinister: Given A Voice Message-ID: <12.2dc3ae9f.2b9042f1@aol.com> Hi Sinister. I am new to the list and a few weeks ago I was given my voice (thank you Miss Honey!) after reading everything you all have had to say. It has all been very interesting and I will not deliberately commit list abuse. I'm an 18 year old female from the little state of Rhode Island in the US. I wish I could be as close to B&S as some of you are. :( I first discovered the lovely B&S one afternoon in January of 1997 when I wanted to test out a new band I had never heard of. So I picked up Tigermilk and instantly fell in love. Ever since then...I have been as much a devoted fan as possible. All of you seem like great people and I look forward to being a part of such a great community. Thanks for taking the time to read this! Hope everyone has a good night. Very sad about Mr. Rogers...great man. May his soul rest in peace. -Diane p.s I wish I could have the pleasure of seeing B&S in Glasgow.... :( +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com Fri Feb 28 12:24:20 2003 From: paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com (Paulo Stinsoni) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:24:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bubbling with excitement Message-ID: Greetings earthlets, Borag Thung (or something like that, I can't remember too well now) Yeah, and I'd like to add to Ken's words: >so I'm going to brag HERE instead! > >WOOOO I GOT MY TICKET! Wahey Glasgow Gig here I come. > I've got my ticket too. Standing at the front, or rather dancing (if there's room). I'm practising my dance steps as we speak. Theresa (the lovely) suggested we create a complete "Chorus line" style dance for special songs and a generic one for other songs we weren't expecting. If you see us there, looking a bit awkward and silly, come and join us. I can't wait. Yours Paulo Yazaar, Yazaar! _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=186&DI=1059 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Fri Feb 28 13:22:22 2003 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:22:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: When two tribes go to war, money's all that you can score Message-ID: The latest fashion seems to be to be smug about having tickets to the Glasgow gig in May. And, as ever, I am a slave to fashion. (That is to say, fashion dresses me up in rubbish clothes, whips me and tells me I must try harder). Of course I am equally excited (nearly) about finally having the chance to go to the Winchester Club the night before, so I look forward to seeing you all there. All I've got to do now is find somewhere to stay - any offers gratefully received... In another bit of B&S news, the NME website is reporting (http://www.nme.com/news/104320.htm) that the new album is being produced by Trevor Horn. Don't know where they got this information from, last I heard it hadn't been finalised, but at least we can talk about it now. For those who don't know (and I admit, until a couple of weeks ago I didn't), Trevor Horn produced much of the best music to come out of the eighties, including Frankie Goes To Hollywood and Band Aid's "Do They Know It's Christmas". And just in case you thought he was a relic from another era, his record is currently Number 1 in the UK singles charts ("All The Things She Said" by Tatu). Not bad going really. Nice to see a bit of smut reappearing on the list, it's been missed. It was so much more entertaining when Archel was still single and smutty. Now we have to rely on Ken. After all, what is this list for apart from trying to impress members of the opposite sex? (Hopefully something else actually, because I'm rubbish at that). So I'll just subtly drop into the conversation that everything they say about tall men with big feet is true. Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Fri Feb 28 14:25:28 2003 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:25:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Given A Voice In-Reply-To: <12.2dc3ae9f.2b9042f1@aol.com> Message-ID: I could be wrong, but weren't Belle & Sebastian called Rhode Island before they settled on the current name? Just thought you might like to know that, Diane. Good name, even if they weren't. > From: Mayfly5502 at xxx.com > Reply-To: Mayfly5502 at aol.com > Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 23:43:29 EST > To: sinister at missprint.org > Subject: Sinister: Given A Voice > > Hi Sinister. > I am new to the list and a few weeks ago I was given my voice (thank you Miss > Honey!) after reading everything you all have had to say. It has all been > very interesting and I will not deliberately commit list abuse. I'm an 18 > year old female from the little state of Rhode Island in the US. I wish I > could be as close to B&S as some of you are. :( I first discovered the > lovely B&S one afternoon in January of 1997 when I wanted to test out a new > band I had never heard of. So I picked up Tigermilk and instantly fell in > love. Ever since then...I have been as much a devoted fan as possible. All > of you seem like great people and I look forward to being a part of such a > great community. Thanks for taking the time to read this! Hope everyone has > a good night. > Very sad about Mr. Rogers...great man. May his soul rest in peace. > -Diane > p.s I wish I could have the pleasure of seeing B&S in Glasgow.... :( > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Fri Feb 28 14:42:09 2003 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:42:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: rhode island Message-ID: Sadly, I can confirm that (as far as I know) Stuart M and Stuart D started out as Rhode Island. How I know this pathetic piece of pedantary I really don't want to know. *shoots self*. *misses* Anyways...B&S play a gig in glamourous glasow which I won't be able to grace with my presence due to many reasons not least my current unwillingness to travel north of the Watford Gap. They are soooo selfish. why can't they play in my living room? it's sooooo unfair. Who cares about Glasgow? it's so unimportant. my living room is much more important so they should play there. Where will they play next? Some one horse town like Barcelona? *TSK* I shall have to console myself with all of my Velvet Underground records and Will Self books. I saw some sinister people in a pub last thursday but I as they were arriving I was leaving to spend an hour or two on the tube which is my new favourite game. thanks to Ken Livingstone. I'm looking forward to the new record. Especially given Trevor Horn's involvment with: (I've capitalised the ones I would like to influence the new record) Act, ABC, Marc Almond, The Art Of Noise, Band Aid, PATO BANTON, BARRY MANILOW, Boyzone, Cher, DOLLAR, Esquire, Bryan Ferry, The Frames D.C., Frankie Goes To Hollywood, Gabrielle, THE GLAM METAL DETECTIVES, Godley & Creme, Inga Humpe, Grace Jones, Tom Jones, Lomax, Max, PAUL MCCARTNEY, Malcolm McLaren, Nasty Rox Inc., Mike Oldfield, Pet Shop Boys, Anne Pigalle, Propaganda, Public Demand, Terry Reid, Seal, Simple Minds, SPANDAU BALLET, Rod Stewart, Tina Turner, Wendy & Lisa. And more recently TATU so did their rather good version of How Soon is Now. It should make for an interesting and progressive (not prog) record. for all of your Trevor Charkes Horn needs: http://www.trevor-horn.de/ p. >From: Ian Watson >Reply-To: Ian Watson >To: >Subject: Re: Sinister: Given A Voice >Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:25:28 +0000 > > >I could be wrong, but weren't Belle & Sebastian called Rhode Island before >they settled on the current name? > >Just thought you might like to know that, Diane. Good name, even if they >weren't. > > > > > From: Mayfly5502 at xxx.com > > Reply-To: Mayfly5502 at aol.com > > Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 23:43:29 EST > > To: sinister at missprint.org > > Subject: Sinister: Given A Voice > > > > Hi Sinister. > > I am new to the list and a few weeks ago I was given my voice (thank you >Miss > > Honey!) after reading everything you all have had to say. It has all >been > > very interesting and I will not deliberately commit list abuse. I'm an >18 > > year old female from the little state of Rhode Island in the US. I wish >I > > could be as close to B&S as some of you are. :( I first discovered the > > lovely B&S one afternoon in January of 1997 when I wanted to test out a >new > > band I had never heard of. So I picked up Tigermilk and instantly fell >in > > love. Ever since then...I have been as much a devoted fan as possible. >All > > of you seem like great people and I look forward to being a part of such >a > > great community. Thanks for taking the time to read this! Hope >everyone has > > a good night. > > Very sad about Mr. Rogers...great man. May his soul rest in peace. > > -Diane > > p.s I wish I could have the pleasure of seeing B&S in Glasgow.... :( > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > > majordomo at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hobart at xxx.uk Fri Feb 28 20:32:09 2003 From: hobart at xxx.uk (Ian Anscombe) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:32:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: squawk Message-ID: <001601c2df68$898b5d40$90c7193e@default> i wasn't sure i'd heard right.. 'you want to go WHERE?' but, i believe in freedom. when it suits me. so i threw the poetry parrot into the air, and watched it crash into nextdoor's conservatory. i fetched it back again, removed the 'singing nun' costume, and allowed it to leave, unsure of the wisdom of my actions. --------------------------------------------------- an explanation... it all started with the christmas card. looked innocent enough. quite tasteful, even.. pvc envelope, wipe-clean contents.. it was the message inside that did it.. 'celebrating another year of superiority over you xx a.p. enterprises' it took me a while to work out what 'a.p. enterprises' might be. i assumed, quite sensibly, that it stood for 'anal pleasure'. until i saw the postmark. brighton. the get the get the get the scurrilous southern get.... i hadn't heard from ms playforth since i sent her a letterbomb disguised as a 'hello kitty' meat cleaver and chainsaw set. i thought that had put an end to things. seemingly not. i immediately phoned up all of my HARDEST friends (no, not in that sense) and took the train to brighton. unfortunately, the little old lady from across the road couldn't make it, so i was stuck with a man i found glue-sniffing at the bus stop, and err.. nobody else. i didn't know what my plan was. perhaps i'd get him to glue her to something... something inconvenient. like a volkswagen. THAT'd teach her. i contemplated this, as he told me about the army of elephants that he'd used to fight his wars in the past. he said his name was hannibal. i stared out of the window, and reflecte that this was what came of taking drugs AND watching trash american tv.. at least it wasn't b.a. baracus. i imagined Old Scurrilous staggering round brighton town, trying to look cool and hep and swinging and fabbo, all the time with a small family hatchback attached to her ear. superiority. 'hello, i'm archel playforth, scurrilous southern get... oh...this thing? its a stylish new form of ear ornamentation' i could hear Them Laughing. and not, for once, at me.. ---------------------------------------- best not to reflect on the past. yesterday. i found the parrot waiting on my steps yesterday night. poor thing.. it looked thin, cold and wet. its feathers stuck out in all directions.. it flashed those beady birdy eyes at me and croaked 'please....feed me.' so, i took it in, and i fed it my finest Linda McCartney Sausage Rolls, and gave it a nice cup of green tea. half an hour later, it still looked rather ropey. it hadn't touched its green tea. i decided it probably needed to be cheered up, perhaps with a nice, rousing, sing-song: 'toast is burned and you're coffee's co-old and you leave all the post cos there's noth ing but bills again home from work put the tee-vee o-on get your kicks watching' 'FOR GOD'S SAKE SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP, I CAN'T TAKE ANY MORE!' the parrot rocked from side to side as it squawked. clearly, all that time waiting for the pickle prince had affected its thought processes a little. i felt so sad for the little thing. if a fine, note-perfect rendition of a Cracknell Classic couldn't cheer it up, i began to despair that anything ever could. i felt so helpless... ----------------------------------------- helpless.. that day in brighton.. 30th december, 2002.. i probably shouldn't have left the glue-sniffer on his own for so long. he said he had to be near the sea, to connect with something primal, to summon his Powers. he stood on the end of the deserted pier, looking out to sea and making wave motions with his hands. it got very tedious. i went to 'saucy sue's sexy secret shop' and amused myself with interestingly-shaped inflatable objects. i swear i thought everything would be okay. a nutter, on a pier... he'd be fine. nobody would bother him. they would be too busy looking in the other direction and saying 'oh, don't say anything miranda darling, that sort of northern scum is only encouraged by a reaction from a sophisticated southern type.' or words to that effect. (the same sort of thing they say about me, in sophisticated southern towns. london, solihull, coventry, and the like..) --- i heard them calling, far far away. i got to the pier in time to seem him plunge into the water. i don't know if elephants can swim. i couldn't bring myself to look. evidently there had been too many of them. the old structure gave way. i could hear them trumpeting, many miles out, floating away behind their Master. i still hear those calls, on the long nights, before i fall asleep. i decided nobody would miss an old pier like that. it wasn't as if anyone was using it. heading north, on the train, i reflected that it would clearly take much more than an immortal eastern general and a horde of elephants to defeat the power of... The Southerner.. ---------------- god, ian, get over it. she won one. she has to win sometimes. unfortunately, so far, it has been every time, but your day will come. oh yes. your day will come. the poetry parrot.. the poor little thing. i didn't know what to do. i put on 'the sound of music'. that always cheers me up HOW do you SOLVE a PROBlem like marIA? HOW do you hold a MOONbeam in your HAND? this clearly moved my favourite freshly-found feathered friend. it laughed and laughed and laughed SO LOUD. it didn't stop for HOURS. then it started screaming again. i considered putting the film back on, or singing again, but every time i suggested this the parrot just squawked, and frantically tried to flap its wings underneath the minature habit-and-halo set i had generously allowed it to borrow. good god, what had HAPPENED to the poor thing? i stroked the scarlet plumage, i coo-ed softly in its ear.. i told it not to be so negative. there's plenty of happiness in life. its a question of knowing how, and where to look. and, mostly importantly, of remembering to look at all. there are many paths to happiness, they lie in - and it screeched again: 'OKAY. NO MORE. the best way for you to cheer me up is to say nothing: Philip Larkin - First Sight Lambs that learn to walk in snow When their bleating clouds the air Meet a vast unwelcome, know Nothing but a sunless glare. Newly stumbling to and fro All they find, outside the fold, Is a wretched width of cold. As they wait beside the ewe, Her fleeces wetly caked, there lies Hidden round them, waiting too, Earth's immeasureable surprise. They could not grasp it if they knew, What so soon will wake and grow Utterly unlike the snow.' 'the best way for you to cheer me up is to say nothing'.... i sat, and pondered the words. clearly, my company is so marvellous that i don't even need to speak to lift others to hitherto unknown levels of joy. the parrot was so edified by our encounter that it decided it would spread joy to the most unfortunate person it could think of. that must have been the reason. that must have been why it headed south to brighton. rachel playforth.. sender of superior messages, destroyer of sea-based structures (indirectly, at least), purveyor of.......things that are purveyed. of course i could share some of my enlightenment with her. i wasn't entirely sure, but i watched the little red blob as it faded into the blueness above me. i only hoped that it could bring her something edifying, something improving. ------- earth's immeasurable surprise.. the world is coming back to life. time to come back, with it. let go of the past. let the elephants float away. be happy, my little rays of err.. rayishness. flap around the world, squawking your poems, as only a sinister type can. xx ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayeckard at xxx.com Fri Feb 28 23:06:59 2003 From: jayeckard at xxx.com (Jay Eckard) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 23:06:59 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: /me looks around Brightly. Hello Sinister! Having just read about a weeks worth of posts, I decided I would chime in. Big Stu said that the purpose of Sinister is to flirt with the opposite sex. Bah! What would you want to do /that/ for when your own is ever so much more interesting? You know, you can SAY Girls rock all you want, but Boys rock at least as hard. And sometimes they're Rock Hard, too. Boys don't have fiddly bits or moodiness or Female Problems, as they say here in the South. They don't need products sold with euphemisms or decorator colours.In conclusion, I like boys. Caleb Ben was sad that Mr Rogers died. I was, too. I watched his show all the time and when I was little he was the only grown-up I knew who didn't yell at me. Diana said she hoped he'd rest in peace. I think he already was at peace. Of all the people I know, I'm sure he'd be first into heaven. By popular demand. [Mr Rogers was also the show, when I was three, where I learned that TV programmes go on EVEN IF you turn the set off. That made me very unhappy at the time.] I was going to talk about the List on the List as well, but I've decided it'd be much more amusing to make this statement and let others blow thier minds trying to decide if it IS Talking on the List about the List. Speaking of Lists, Kristin Idleberry set up a Net Ring called Pocketbook Angel. You SHOULD already know this. /me raps your knuckles sharply. So why haven't more of you signed up yet? I expect Mass Transit to her site so you can link yourself on. Speaking of Sites, I'll hawk mine! http://www.jaylemurph.blogspot.com You can learn a new word a day, see how I successfully created my own country one afternoon and read many interesting reviews. This is BESIDES the sexy little Weatherpixie I have. Right. That's enough talk! GayJay -- "The Posby falls into a Trance In which it does a little Dance." 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andycapps at xxx.com Fri Feb 28 20:14:48 2003 From: andycapps at xxx.com (Andy Capps) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:14:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: b&s save my sanity Message-ID: well it's certainly been a long time since i posted last. i've started reading my digests again and etta and i felt it was time to post a little something ourselves. especially since we noticed that steven kado had surfaced, etta and i felt a longing for some of the old toronto sinisterines...that and i found my strangefruit pins the other day. the main inspiration for posting as i've been listening to b&s at work a lot lately. i work at the starbucks out here in my little suburban hell and the sound system is a rather old one. and anyone else who works at starbucks knows that the music is rather quite controlled if you have the cd player. luckily my store has the old cassette tape configuration and we're able to listen to any tape that's ever been made for starbucks. there is one tape, from around when twattybus came out that has quite a few b&s songs on it. (contemporary grind III)i've been playing it quite a lot lately and it's made my work a little more hospitable. the only drawback is i sing along with it and my customers are looking at me a little more oddly than usual. (it seems they don't see very many homo's in these parts either, who knew.) okay, well that's my little bit. etta wants to say something as well, but she's a cat and can't type. she's now just content with curling up in my lap. see you all around in #sinister... a. the early bird get's the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese... }:> _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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