From wpsalt at xxx.com Tue Jun 3 13:28:38 2003 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Caitlin Ross) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:28:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Picnic Plans Message-ID: <20030603122838.GA23150@elvis.scotwebshops.com> I've not noticed anyone planning any London picnics for the near future. So, why don't we have one!? The main reason I'm mentioning this, really, is that I'm tentatively planning a London holiday for nest week sometime. So, why don't we have a Sinister picnic on June 14th, which is Saturday week. I'm not sure where really - I suppose the main choices are Primrose Hill or Greenwich, and I'm not really picky. If anyone's interested, let me know and I'll post more definite details by the end of this week. xx caitlin -- http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Tue Jun 3 16:34:02 2003 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:34:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: You hurt my knee on Friday, and ruined my weekend Message-ID: Hello Sinister. PICTURE THE SCENE <> It's quite a scene. James Thorniley nearly killed me on Friday with his over-zealous dancing, but his public apolgies are acceptable, of course. It's not bruised, James, just quite stiff. Go on Archel, or Big Stu, make some smut out of that. IT'S BETTER TO REGRET SOMETHING YOU HAVE DONE THAN TO REGRET SOMETHING YOU HAVEN'T DONE As seems to be the way of it these days, I've been neglecting you. The pattern goes lurk-lurk-lurk-lurk-feel guilt-post, on loop. You can thank (?) the boy Thorniley for prompting me this time. If it wasn't for his clumsy actions at the weekend I'd still be silent. Probably. I must say though that I've been reading a lot more than usual; I'm digging this retro-sinister revival thing, with SUBJECT HEADINGS, and people mispelling "great". Mummy I've Grazed My Knee's post was sheer nostalgia, and all the better for it in a kinda Brit-pop Club Night way. Richard. John. Gillander's post was inexplicable genius, and Ken's top 5 whinges were brilliant, although I'd be tempted to make it a non-round Top 7, in order to include http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200303/msg00020.html, and of course http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200304/msg00008.html. As these post demonstrate in the most elegant and beautiful ways, the old days might be the best, but modern-day sniping is still Sini-gold. THIERRY HENRY WILL BE OUT FOREVER, HAVING SUSTAINED DEATH DURING ARSENAL'S 2-0 WIN OVER BOLTON I can't stop playing CM4 at the moment, which is very sad, but I'm sure I'm not alone here. Mark, how are you getting along with Torquay? Any good tactics? Apparently, one of the "injuries" that the players can sustain in the new game is death. It's quite realistic, y'know. BOOEY POTTOM I'll love you and leave you now. I'm sorry if you think I'm clogging up your inbox - it's almost as if I've forgotten how to post these days. Speak to you in a couple of months then. love Asm.x ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From retrosec at xxx.uk Tue Jun 3 23:09:50 2003 From: retrosec at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Retro^Sec?=) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:09:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Judy and the dream of Horsepower Message-ID: <20030603220951.90062.qmail@web13103.mail.yahoo.com> hi sinister I'm in a pretty filthy mood right now. Filthy as in bad, rather than kinky, so don't get any ideas that this post will be anything less of a rant and a moan. BANKS Banks are gits. CAN anyone explain, why in the UK, it takes days for a cheque to clear? I'm only asking, becuase I was due to pick up my beloved car today. For those of you who don't know: I passed my test, and bought a car the next day. Bought, as in "I'll have one of those in red please, here's £100 deposit." (You don't know how cool that felt to actually say that. Some of you might object to the whole idea of wealth, but y'know, still, being able to say that felt good. Oh, I'm so ruled by money sometimes. I bet they thought I was a prat in the dealers, but I don't care) And then? then came the insurance. The company who offered me the lowest rate, was Diamond, and I'm yet to work out the catch. It was £500 less than what the AA could find, and £300 less than the RAC. Then I had to get a loan, and get stroppy in a bank when they were going to charge me for transferring money to my other account. I threatened to close my account altogether, so they let me off with it, and did it all free of charge. I just don't understand, why, in a world of computers and technobuffins, that to transfer money I had to either: 1. pay £18 for a telegraph transfer (telegraph? a bit 19th Century, don't you think?) 2. Pay £2.50 and wait a few days for a bog-standard transfer 3. Walk two miles with a cheque in my hand to the other bank and wait five days for the cheque to clear. Anyway. I got it sorted. And I got my loan through, and now I have to wait a few days for that to clear. But to pay for my car by cheque, I'd have to wait ten working days, which I don't get, I wonder if they send it half way round the world for everyone o have a good look at it and make sure they agree. So I agreed with my dad he'd pay for it, and I'd write him a cheque later when my loan has cleared. I WANT MY CAR NOW!!! anyway, complications have set in, and I'm not very happy about it. Its taking all the romance out of shopping, and turning it into something cold and cruel and seedy. Second thing, I don't yet know if my car is a boy or a girl, but either way it needs a name. I seem to be veering towards a girls name at the moment, so it might be a girl car. I have this feeling that we can do this whole female bonding thing if it is a girl, rather than risk a battle of the sexes if it is a little boy car. Names I've got to rule out include: Ruby: A friend of my boss already has a car called Ruby, and its the same colour and model. My car will just be confused if she shares its name with another car. Scarlet (as in o'hara): primarily because I keep thinking of Miss Scarlet. While some of the boys on this list might not object to being able to say in all honesty "I ride Scarlet!", I feel my car needs a name of her own, otherwise it won't be my car. I like individualism. Daisy: A name I had thought of, until my boyfriend told me his parents old car was called Daisy, because it made a moo noise. So that name has been taken. Blossom: Powerpuff girl. Shes not as cool as Buttercup but she has that red-head thing going on. But shes just not the cool one. Buttercup: Powerpuff girl. Becuase I want to be Buttercup. Milly: I liked it at first, then I thought of Milly's cookies. So I thought that was a bit corporate. Might as well call her Starbucks. Rose/Rosie: too many people with that name already. It will distract me. I thought of calling it "Blue", for one reason that it will just confuse people. "Blue the red car". But then, there's only a rotten boyband called that, and heaven help me, but I don't want that association. Additionally, the kids TV show, Blues Clues. I've also ruled out any name that is a reference to a Belle and Sebastian song in anyway. And I won't call her Belle either. I just feel that would be verging on the overly twee to name her after a Belle and Seb song. Like naming a car isn't twee. I saw my car today, sitting in the parking lot. In some ways, I was a bit shy to go over. She just looked as if she was waiting patiently. I'm slightly glad I didn't, becuase I don't want her to think I don't love her and I'm having cold feet. At the same time, perhaps that was a bit rude of me. Maybe she saw me and felt I was ignoring her. I hope she will be ok. We'll have a chat when we formally meet. I was so excited, I even held the car keys. It was quite a moment, really. Just sitting in the dealers, with the keys in my hand. But in the end, I had to hand them back, and that hurt. She looks very pretty, and lots of people have complimented her appearance already. I know some of you will think this is very sad* But its my first car! a brand new baby! Shes going to take me to all sorts of places. Another note, her numberplate is slightly personalised, which is good. I misheard the lady on the phone the first time. I thought she said SO EASY. My car won't be easy! She'll be Secy. ANyway, time to go and fulfill the subject line. love idles *approximately 99% of the sinister population agreed with this statement, according to a BBC poll. ===== http://retrosec.blogspot.com/ thoughts __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mayfly5502 at xxx.com Tue Jun 3 23:44:23 2003 From: Mayfly5502 at xxx.com (Mayfly5502 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 18:44:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: Judy and the dream of Horsepower Message-ID: <1e1.a4485c2.2c0e7ec7@aol.com> Hello Sinister. Congrats on the new car idles! What kind of car is she? What does she look like? Then maybe I can come up with some sort of name that you may approve of. It is always nice to have a car of your own that you pay for on your own...except for the bills of course. As for banks...I don't know much about them. It is dumb to wait days for a check to clear. If I were in charge of all banks...I would make them cooler. :) Hope everyone is doing well. Take Care! -Diane +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Wed Jun 4 15:26:05 2003 From: lulou at xxx.org (Linda Kerr) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:26:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian News Mailing List (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:18:30 -0000 From: band at xxx.net To: lulou at crockery.org Subject: Belle and Sebastian News Mailing List Hi all, The band are still busy in the studio at the moment, but some of them are participating in a couple of DJ sets coming up that you may be interested in heading along to, if you're in the UK. Richard & Chris are DJ-ing at The Social, Pelham Street Nottingham on 23rd June from about 9.30pm as part of the You Are Here Festival. Before that, Nottingham's finest Earth The Californian Love dream will be playing, and there will be all sorts of odd events happening that evening. Tickets cost a fiver, available from Broadway Box Office, Broad Street, Nottingham NG1 3AL, tel: 0115 9526611. They go on sale tomorrow - June 5th - and will sell super-fast, so get yours now! You can get more info about the festival by visiting http://www.yah.org.uk Stuart is also DJ-ing in Nottingham for the Nottingham Stop the War Coalition Gig & Disco on Saturday June 21st from 7.30pm ­ til 1am at Junktion 7 on 6 Ilkeston Rd, NG7. Admission is £4 in advance or £5 on the door. Fosca, The Liberty Ship and Hellfire Sermons are the "gig" part and Stuart is DJ-ing alongside Ian Watson of "How Does It Feel" fame. You can get more info about the show by visiting www.tastyfanzine.org.uk Thanks to everyone who made it along to the Concern Concert for Africa show. We helped to raise £50,000 for Concern's appeal to help the famine in Africa, and the broadcast on STV/Grampian should have hopefully raised even more for the cause. Stuart did an interview on BBC Scotland with Janice Forsyth the morning before the show, and Janice kindly donated her original copy of "Tigermilk" complete with invitation tickets to the launch party for us to auction to raise money for Concern. We've also got some mementos from the show, AAA passes, a t-shirt, posters etc. and the record has been signed by the band too, so when we get it organised, you can start placing bids on the package. Lastly, we've made new t-shirts! You can view the new "Graffiti" colour-ways (Zinc Grey and Sky Blue) and "Ampersand" skinny-fit shirts (Heather Grey) online by visiting http://www.banchoryshop.net/search.asp?search=belle Chris has also finished the designs for the Baseball caps and Stuart the Football shirts (with a bit of help from Rachel, thanks Rachel!) so they should be online soon too. Will drop you another email when you can get your hands on them and details of the "Tigermilk" auction for Concern too. Roll on summer! cheers, Katrina @ Banchory. http://www.banchory.net http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit www.banchoryshop.net/belleandsebastian/list/list.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From retrosec at xxx.uk Wed Jun 4 23:10:50 2003 From: retrosec at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Retro^Sec?=) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 23:10:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: the worst B&S puns I could think of Message-ID: <20030604221050.95564.qmail@web13114.mail.yahoo.com> well, there she is. My little cute VW Polo, sitting in the driveway. Thanks to Archel, I think Poppy is a fantastic name. My brother suggested Kitty, becuase of her purring (I know all cars purr, but she's almost musical when shes purring). I like both names, but I think Poppy is a good name. Kitty can be her middle name. Thanks to all who responded to my email last night. Anyway, in the mood for making this a more open email, rather than just for people interested in me and my car, I thought I'd throw in a bit of B&S for good measure. So songs for listening to when driving: The Estate I am In I Love My Car Is it wicked not to Ka Don't Leave the lights on Baby Scooby Driver Judy and the dream of Horsepower Theres too much rev Belle and Saabastian speed the clock around An Espace boy Dream Judy is a Dipstick Gearstick factor Get me away from here I'm driving The cars of track and field My Wandering Days are over Tigra-milk I'll stop now. Love idles x ===== http://retrosec.blogspot.com/ thoughts __________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Wed Jun 4 23:40:37 2003 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 23:40:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I believe Thunder Road by Bruce Springsteen is the best song since 1970 Message-ID: I reckon it's about 6 six years I joined Sinister and how it's changed since then with all of this new-fangled "Reporting Back" malarky. OK.. it hasn't changed an iota. The people change (Duke Of Harringay where are you? (Harringay probably but that's not the point)) but the song still remains the same. I would report back but I failed to make it to Glasgow, the scene of my first B&S live experience in 2001. Never go back to the scene of an old crime they say. Well I can't really remember breaking the law but I remember almost breaking my back in a Glasgow nightclub where at least one other Sinister member was dancing along. Anyway, i digress... The point of this post is to say how much I am looking forward to new B&S stuff. i really am. i struggle to get excited about new music (a sure sign I am reaching 25 later this year) and the last 5 records i bought read Velvet Underground, the smiths, the smiths, love and White stripes. And I've only played the White stripes a couple of times. I've been looking at my parent's collection of Fleetwood Mac, Bruce Springsteen (thunder Road is a disjointed classic) and ELO. I need new B&S to save me and make me dance in my room again. P p.s. I would just like to say RIP to the track and Field night which had its last night late last month. It was London's best indie club with a guaranteed 3 or 4 B&S tracks plus VU, Lovin Spoonful, Nick Drake, hefner etc etc. _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From minster at xxx.net Thu Jun 5 09:04:03 2003 From: minster at xxx.net (minster at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 8:04:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: James Joyce Project:Bands Needed Message-ID: <20030605080403.CSEN28680.fep03-svc.ttys.com@localhost> Right-I'll get this out of the way now... I know this is likely to get me kicked(or worse, harrassed) off the list but that's a chance I'm willing to take. Fire Records have a project in the making that I think would likely appeal to a whole host of you talented lot, I suppose the idea is to make the offer and hope the response is warm and overwhelming! I will apologise in advance for the shameless promotion, but won't apologise for the opportunity to scare up some more incredibly savoury interest in this project. Press Release to Follow... -------------------------------------------------------------- James Joyce- Chamber Music: Poetry In 36 Parts (1907) The impetus is love, and what could be more universal? James at Fire Records(London) is actively seeking out bands to show interest and ultimately commit to the project. It's incredibly ambitious and has a tremendous amount of scope. The project is truly visionary and it is hoped will appeal to a diverse collective of artists & audience. The aim is essentially this: Chamber Music is a 1907 Poem split into 36 parts. We're looking to find 36 bands to set each poem to music. This was attempted in 1909 by a friend of Joyce's - but the first public performance was by Adolf Mann in 1910.This will result in a double disc release with the potential for an evening of live performance in London- later this year. James thinks: ''Chamber Music charts love, love that ultimately ends in failure. So to me it's very real - and I (like most people) have experienced that in many different forms. Its one story, one song - split into 36 parts - each part bringing you deeper in - and each part capturing each stage of development. I believe that each band will be able to do that and offer if nothing else a piece of themselves.'' This is to be a double disc, further to a double vinyl version for the kids(*wink*) Each band will be choosing their verse it's a case of first come first serve, quite literally. Each track should ideally clock in around 2 odd minutes The following link will bring you to a source of the entire body of work: http://www.online-literature.com/james_joyce/1066 A hard copy can be supplied if it's more convenient. James is available to answer any and all questions you might have about the particulars of the project as it is taking shape- please direct all queries and concerns to his attention. Contact us directly to make a stanza selection. He can be reached at james at firerecords.com I can be reached at carla at firerecords.com There has been such an amazing response this early on- the quality is staggering, couldn't really be more pleased about it. Thanks in advance for all the interest and attention that is bound to make this endeavor a huge success. Carla Edwards __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Thu Jun 5 11:31:58 2003 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 11:31:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Lordy! Message-ID: <20030605103158.58226.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com> Sinister, my dear old friend, Carla's looking for people who want to set James Joyce's work to music. She may as well have writtien THE PINEFOX, THIS IS THE MUSICAL PROJECT YOU'VE ALWAYS DREAMED OF! I hope he contributes. Idleberry has named her baby Poppy. Just like fat tongue boy Jamie Oliver did. Har! Archel, did you do it on purpose? Talk of Sinister Gold has made me wistful. Fans of SG might be interested to hear that Miss Paula Cullen Booze Explosion will be at the Winchester Club tomorrow night with her band The Chalets (see http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club). They really are rather good. But that's only what you'd expect of a Sinisterine, eh? Another old sinister face, drunken Matt, was in Glasgow this week. We went to the pub with Ally C and Richard JG and Nick D and won the quiz! And then drunken Matt ruined his reputation by leaving early to get a good night's sleep before work in the morning. Tsch! How the mighty are fallen. I'd like to echo Paul's sentiments about looking forward to the new B&S record. Not in a fannish way though, I just can't wait to hear what Trevor Horn has done with them. According to Popbitch, Trev has volunteered his services to revive the UK's Eurovision reputation next year. God knows, we need all the help we can get. See ya Juicy Lucy ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ ************************************************** The Winchester Club http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Thu Jun 5 15:08:50 2003 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Caitlin Ross) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 15:08:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: more on possible picnic arrangements Message-ID: <20030605140850.GC3073@elvis.scotwebshops.com> In case you didn't notice, I suggested the other day that a London picnic on June 14th would be nice. One person contacted me to agree, and suggested that Greenwich would be the best location for it, because then you can get there via the Docklands railway and sit at the front as it tunnels under the river. And Greenwich Park is just nice, generally, and you can do all the exciting touristy things like stand on the zero-degrees line. But anyway. The thing is, though, only one person *has* got in touch. I know I'm being a bit rushed about all this, but I'm on holiday after tomorrow and won't be able to post to the list to organise anything after that - well, until after the 14th, at least. And a picnic with just two people would be a bit rubbish (although I've been to one with just four before, I admit). Therefore, if you definitely want to come to a picnic in London, probably Greenwich, on Saturday June 14th, can you please email me as soon as possible - preferably by THIS TIME TOMORROW - and - assuming this holiday plan does all actually work out and everything - I'll try and make sure something gets arranged. Sorry about the rushing and urgency, Love, Caitlin -- http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Fri Jun 6 16:22:29 2003 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 16:22:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The boy punned wrong again Message-ID: DAWG ON WHEELS Poor Retrosec talked of her woes with payment methods for a car, what you need is to get youreslf a Platinum credit card, dahlink. £50,000 credit limit yo. "Yeah I'll take that car, and yes of course I'd like a cigar for I'm bling bling." Not that I have one of those, mind. I'm all about Graduate Account mastercards that charge you a frigging fiver for forgetting (alliteration!) to pay the £100 you owe for one day. cheeky beggars. Honestly though, do people still use cheques these days? It's all about e-banking nowadays. *Ken writes this as he transfers his share of the month's rent to his flatmate's account. Anyway, I call my car M983KNH. Cool eh? I've even got name badges with the name on that I stick onto the car, twee, I know. ELECTRONIC BANKING RENAISSANCE What goes well the best with e-banking?? e-BAY, of course! Hurrah for cheap PS2s on ebay, and now I'm (almost) a proud owner of a PS2 (I will be when that dude finally sends it). Yeah I'm usually about 3 years late on new technologies like this, but the PS2 will have D!V!D! playing ability, which will enable me to watch the B!&!S! D!V!D! when it comes out! Ohhh yes. When is it coming out though? The date 17th June crops up every now and then on various websites etc., is that something that should be taken as gospel? Or is it more of a hello! magazine kind of thing to be taken as? THE stARS OF TRACK AND FIELD Paul Arathoon mentioned the death of track and field >>p.s. I would just like to say RIP to the track and Field night which had its last night late last month. It was London's best indie club with a guaranteed 3 or 4 B&S tracks plus VU, Lovin Spoonful, Nick Drake, hefner etc etc.<< Well, apparently they didn't really like playing B&S tracks if you read their website. http://www.trackandfield.org.uk/club.htm Sounds a little bitter to me. Anyway, I've heard rumours that the legendary TIGERMILKING is having a Revival Starting Mid-July to claim back its rightful spot as London's premier night club! I'm sure more details will be to come sooon. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Sat Jun 7 17:04:31 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 16:04:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: At the church bazaar, I think I went too far.. Message-ID: "You know," I said to the woman with the plastic hands, "I think this moment has changed my life." I'd only been at the church bazaar for five minutes and I was already clutching a hygienic armful of Tupperware. You won't believe what it can do. "Put your sandwiches in this box and they'll keep for weeks." the lady said. "Why, that's impossible!" "No, that's Tupperware!" Every time I was turning over one turquoise plastic artefact, with blinking eyes of astonishment, the lady would pick up another in her hands, which in their translucent arthritis supports looked like they'd been plasticated by some Tupperware Golden Goose. "Do you know what this is for?" "Um, it looks like a sugar spoon. But surely the sugar just falls out of the holes?" "It's for getting pickled onions out of jars." "Wow!" As I piled the multicoloured curiosities into my half price sugar jar I told her, "You know, when I arrived here I didn't know I needed all this stuff, but now, well, I don't know how I ever lived without it." She nodded sagely, and dropped me my change from her plastic hands. I've often wanted to go into the Highfields Church Hall, but I never had an excuse until today. I love visiting churches and church halls but, as I am not a Christian, I always feel I need an excuse. Today I had one. The main event was an auction for what was billed as "Peter Baker's Jacket". Peter Baker seems to be a local hero, and although I didn't know who he was I got the sense that I really should. He'd donated two jackets; One was a cracked shoe-polish brown leather jacket which looked like it had been bought sometime around '74. The other, the top item up for grabs, was a more modern tweed number, which was in good nick, if a little furry, and looked like it had maybe been bought in '78. "So here we are", the denimed vicar called, "the main item on sale, a lovely tweed affair, a 44-in jacket that used to belong to that man I know you all love: Peter Baker." There was applause. I tried to make a "Whoot!" but it didn't come off and I looked at the floor. "It looks", the vicar said, reading some paper pinned to the jacket, "like we've already had some bids for this. Let me see.. Well, the highest bid is twenty pounds. Would you believe it? Twenty pounds! Is there any advance on twenty pounds?" There was a call from the front. "Oh hold on a second", the vicar read the paper again, "that's twenty *pence*. Is there any advance on twenty pence?" I struggled home with my tupperware and passed an old man. "You're in a rush. It feels like Brands Hatch on Tewksbury Street today", he said. "Oh I've just bought some cakes from the church bazaar down the road and I'm trying to get home quickly before they melt so that I can put them in my new Tupperware boxes." "Is that the Highfields Church?" he asked. "Yes, it's rather nice. Have you ever been in there?" "Oh no, I'm a Methodist, you see." "What type of church is Highfields then?" "I think it's a Free Church." "A Free Church? What do they believe in?" "Well, in a Free Church anything goes", the old man said. r*e*p*o*r*t*i*n*g* b*a*c*k* I had intended to report back from Scotland when I was there a couple of weeks ago, but time went by and now I think I've missed the moment. It was all good, though. I had a fantastic time during my mini world tour of Britain: Cardiff-Glasgow-Edinburgh-Leeds. I ate far too many bananas, though. Became quite obsessed, I did. It was a real dilemma for me; a few days before I left I read in New Scientist that bananas were going to become extinct because they are all clones, then, on the same day, I heard that if you eat twelve bananas you can DIE. It almost happened to Peter Andre, you know. So I was stuck on the banana-fingers of a dilemma: eat as many bananas as I can before they go extinct, but, well, don't die. Sort of crucial, that. I saw lots of Sinister folks. Danced with the Pinefox, bathed in Lucy's juicy wisdom, pricked myself on Nick's cheekbones, was shocked by Ken's display in a cheap hotel window, and sneaked a glimpse of Patrick's lunchbox. But, truth be told, I didn't spend half as long with you all as I should, as I was always with other people. One of these days I shall make amends. Better be off. It's far too sunny to stay here. I can almost hear the sound of the oars* on the boating lake. bye bye sinister robin xxx *well, technically the rollocks, but it's impossible to use that word without it sounding rude. I know how you Sinisterenes hate smuttiness. Oh, now the sun's gone in anyway. Maybe I'll just sit here on my bed, masticating. Those cakes sure are tasty. [ by express delivery : http://www.superatomic.co.uk/blog ] _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From charismarisa at xxx.ca Sat Jun 7 22:23:57 2003 From: charismarisa at xxx.ca (marisa stroud) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 17:23:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: bastards! always one step ahead... Message-ID: <20030607212357.37513.qmail@web9203.mail.yahoo.com> Oy! What the crap happened to the Top Ten lists on the B&S band site?? I went to go look for the list with the top ten "belle and sebastian" homonyms or whatever cause "belle has surpassed ian" was the only one I could remember and it was bothering me but then when I went to read it it was GONE! Turn your back for five mintues (or perhaps 10 or 12 months...) So I just clicked right to Struan's writing or to Banchory and didn't bother with the rest of the site. So what? Is that such a crime? Well, clearly I'm being punished for it. So...did anyone here write/save it? If you did, would you send it to me? I'll reward you with...well, good karma, prolly, but karma could someday take the form of cookies or fairy cakes. Theoretically at least. Thanks kids. marisa ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pugmunch at xxx.com Sun Jun 8 08:12:11 2003 From: pugmunch at xxx.com (pugmunch at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 07:12:11 GMT Subject: Sinister: A Broken Record (Store) Message-ID: <20030608.001307.10673.240395@webmail05.lax.untd.com> A genial Sini-hello to all! I am now officially de-lurking, approximately nine days after I proclaimed my intention of doing so to the renowned terry underwear. And as a further disclaimer, I should add that this post will fall victim to my new affliction: sub-title mania. Don�t look it up in the medical dictionary; it's new to the common era. ACTUALLY, YOU CAN PROBABLY SKIP THIS SECTION. Though it subtly ties in with a major theme in the third bit. Regardless, it's a bad time to have a sick car. But that�s exactly what I had and I�ve made a remarkable discovery: 2 hours mechanic-time is equal to 5 hours out here in the real world (termed loosely). It�s a good thing I found this out or I might�ve been worried when 11:30 rolled around and the boy who�d driven me home from the dealership wasn�t honking maniacally from the driveway. Yes, and by the time 2:00pm came about, I knew the time was at hand, having drawn my conclusions, and charted my theory. By 2:30, Gita was purring down the highway, glowing happily in the afternoon sun, freshly washed down by loving, but slow, hands. And I thought I had no mathematical skills to speak of! This will save me a lot of needless phone calls in the future, and this is a Good Thing because my t-mobile bill read $229.00 last month. Eek! YOUR TRANSFORMATION IS COMPLETE Next on the list (she makes a mental tick; I had a mother-in-law once who actually made lists of topics before she made phone calls. Scary, scary family). It�s actually the heart of the matter. Yes, folks, this is it. We need to talk. About Zia. It�s gone to hell in a handbasket. Look what happens when I take a sabbatical from conventional record purchasing. The Record Store Savior (remember him? Ah, I didn�t think so.) is GONE. Gone, gone, gone. Who is there to slip me B&S bootlegs? Who is there to help me with obscure imports? NO ONE. I�m completely bereft! I don�t know what to do! I ambled in tonight, quite confidently, only to find the joint peopled with strange employees; I didn�t recognize *one*. My heart slowly sank as I made my way to the B&S section. After ordering the albums chronologically � which may or may not be an obsessive/compulsive habit of mine; I feel it�s my duty � and casting covert glances at the registers, I wheeled around expecting ! to see him hiding out at the imports counter behind me. Alas, there was no hope. He�s hell and gone, and none of the people even know who I�m talking about. I had to ask. I think his name was Chris, although I could be wrong. I�ve been wrong at least twice that I know of, so it�s not an impossibility. In loving memory of him, I�d like to say that he let me use the employee bathroom once; it was covered with Star Wars Posters, which excited me to no end; it was a homecoming sort of feeling. There was a Chewy decal on the toilet. I felt such a �part of�, man. I�m just a regular outsider now. At least they had the new Pernice Brothers. It�s my consolation prize. PAINTING THE TOWN�.ER, GREEN. I had a date. I know; I can�t believe it either. It wasn�t your average date, though. I went out with a Kurdish refugee and co-erced him into telling me his life story with unprecedented panache, saying, �Well, I�ve got about 87 questions for you. Would you mind if I start now?� And then it came to light that he likes fast cars, a la The Fast and the Furious, salsa dancing, and action movies. Hmmm. So much for preconceptions of a shy, determined boy trying to adjust to the capitalist American culture. He�s more American than I am, I reckon. The song �Americano,� (Brian Setzer version, thank you) was looping in my head, battling it out with the alarm bells that started searing through my brain as he told me about his last (totaled) car and how it was green and had that neon light thing underneath it and how he had a racing club on the west side. Right. Hmmm. The Arabic techno rawked though, but the promised, much-vaunted mix has yet to materialize. In light of ho! w little we actually have in common, I�m rather shocked that I�m not completely in love. It *would* fall in with my track record. FROM THE FRINGE OF THE OASIS�.THE END. I�d say that�s all worthy of mention at the moment. I�ve just finished my final Red Bull of the evening; I�m on rations now, as the case in the fridge has dwindled down to only five remaining cans. Tomorrow might call for a desperation run to the nearest Costco. And it�s time for the trial run of my new cd�s, consolation prize or not. And, of course, I must lounge in the hammock and chainsmoke; it�s a prerequisite to sleep, didn�t you know? ;-) S. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Mon Jun 9 04:20:45 2003 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 10:20:45 +0700 Subject: Sinister: a little less dissertation, a little more sanction Message-ID: hello, there's nothing like a name check to encourage me to post. throw in the fact that it's exam period and this post is pretty much inevitable. CONTENTED or GIVE IT A BREAK I listened to Fold Your Hands... last night for the first time in 6 months or so. I think it's a fantastic record. Apart from a few vocal parts the songs are so beautifully constructed. I even sang (or should that be breathed?) along to Beyond the Sunrise. I am going to try and not listen to albums for 6 months or so more often. INCONTINENCE or HOW TO BE IN STYLE I got myself a copy of the Publication manual of the American Psychological Association recently. It tells you how to write journal articles properly, how to use non-discriminative language, how to present data etc... It is fantastic! I haven't been this excited about a book since the twist ending in The Very Hungry Caterpillar (I was sure it was either bulimic or a stoner. Is this a book we really want the chldren of today to be reading - the theme is basically that you can eat and eat and eat, and you end up becoming a beautiful butterfly. Is it any wonder about 50% of Western society is overweight?). EXCHANGING TAPES This is the last call for the OZ/NZ Tape Exchange. So far we have myself, Alex, Nathan, Shellie and Trixie. Email me if you want to send and receive some beautifully packaged music. WE RULE THE KITCHEN The Sinister Recipe Tree continues to roll along at it's own infrequent pace. There are lots of recipes now - look: http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/sinifood/ Email me if you'd like to join. REACHING FOR THE CLOUDS Last night I dreamt I was on a hill. Wait, there's more. A cloud came floating past, and I reached out for it and pulled it from the sky. It was like a big ball of cotton wool. I showed the other people in my dream but they weren't very interested. I reached inside the cloud and tried to find the water, but there didn't seem to be any. terry PS Up with the fantastic corporation that is Jimbo! --- here's what i think: http://naivetysucceeds.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Hugo Johan <12813249 at xxx.za> Mon Jun 9 08:24:08 2003 From: Hugo Johan <12813249 at xxx.za> (Hugo Johan <12813249 at xxx.za>) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 09:24:08 +0200 Subject: Sinister: the worst B&S puns I could think of Message-ID: <53D6B2FE53FCB244A84172934F060F4013D583@STBEVS01.stb.sun.ac.za> dear list (or as people in "hungary, far away" used to say in their oh-so polite fan-mail: "dear liszt") WHERE IS A CAVEAT? oh dear, not only is this now very lame (which, face it, it was always going to be) but it also dreadfully behind the times (almost reactionary, ono might say, but then again, one mightn't - sometimes i just don't know). anyway, so if anyone was wondering, THERE is a caveat! CHICK(s) WITH SPEED first off, congrats to idles, who will finally get to rev her own motor - it's a precious day: savour it (and don't get caught doing anything your local traffic warden wouldn't!)* i'm also due to get a new car sometime soon, and have been giving the matter of naming some thought. my conclusion (although i'm still wavering a little) is, yes: the TWATTYBUS! because not only will it make me think of the band, but of you, oh list (or, as mrs liszt used to say, in certain private moments...) there are other reasons why this would be apt, demonstrating my grate eng. lit. skills in really getting to grip with subtext. the most smutty one is that, to a boy, a new car is certainly... A SEX-AID!!! (yeah, baby, yeah) and TWATTYBUS (for all we know, might be sinisterese for "passion wagon" - think about it. (now, reconsider the sub-heading, analysing possible ambiguities!) seeing as it's going to be rather a small car, it also has the appeal of irony, but that's beside the point. *btw, is it true that a 26-year veteran ambulance driver is being prosecuted for speeding in britain... while delivering a transplant organ at 3am IN his ambulance? if so, it's a mad bad old world FLOGGING A DEAD HORSE(power) for further driving-song suggestions, how about: a century of studebakers my family vw i fought in a car (the road-rage song) i bought a new car waiting for the lights to change big cam shaft me & the playa (for idles) fox on the road (the road-kill song) dog on wheels (ditto) i could be speeding loneliness of the middle-distance driver NB if you have read this far... look back at the first section, and realize you only have yourself to blame. ALL APOLOGIES ... that is, to fellow straight boys out there, since i seem to have managed to have shrunk our pool of opportunities. well, tentatively outing herself MIGHT just been perceived as a kind way of breaking up, but there was a glint in her eye as the waitress brought our coffee... but there is a balance. at least balance has been restored in the cosmos, and by gad, aristotle WAS right: all things DO tend towards their natural state... ENDNESS and contrary to what i'd heard, it DIDN'T end with a bang, and hardly a whimper. oh well, suchness is life. hope you are all well, as always (or rather: hope, as always, that you are all well) love and rocks JohaN ps. for those who don't know it yet, the friends of the heroes* R!A!W!K! - so does their journal. in order to make myself more clear, its G!R!A!T!E! *mmh, through an unfortunate spelling error, i almost equated heroes of all ilks (what the hell's an ilk anyway!) with an unfortunate disease that can be gotten from kissing and such-like. for those with anglophone keyboard, note the proximity of letter 'p' to letter 'o'. 'nuff said, i think (i said: "nuf", natch... oh dear, i can see i'm digging myself into a hole... right, let's quit while i'm a head... that is, a &%$@head +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heartxdan at xxx.com Mon Jun 9 22:11:08 2003 From: heartxdan at xxx.com (elizabeth trawick) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 14:11:08 -0700 Subject: Sinister: to my doorstep to my doorstep yeahhhhh Message-ID: Hello Lovelies! Sorry I've not written in so long... I've been negleting poor Sinister. I've got good reason! I graduated just last week and I started University Monday last... Interesting. I'm living on my own on campus and I must admit it's great fun. I have a roommate, but she's never here. She spends the night with her boyfriend. I've seen her three or so times. I think they're getting married. Being around all of these new people is weird... Especially since I've no idea how to approad them or make friends with any of them. In class the other day I mentioned that I like The Smiths and Belle and Sebastian and my teacher really enjoyed that. He says he really likes the Smiths as well. I wonder, if I could get a date, what would make it perfect? I think I would enjoy a stroll in the park, a picnic with ducks on a starry lit night, and -to top it off- Yo La Tengo's "My Little Corner Of The World" would be playing somewhere far off. Not that any of that would happen since I CAN'T GET A DATE! with anyone worthwhile. (boy sinisters? ahem? any from alabama? ;) Funny thing, relationships. It's fun when they just start off... but once it starts going downhill it... well, goes downhill. The worst is trying to hang on to something that's already lost. The Worst thing about starting a relationship though? Not knowing what the other person wants from it *cough*. Enough of relationship talk now: let's get down to the nitty gritty! My main purpose for this is that I owe people letters, I know. I'm sorry and I'll write them as soon as I feel I'm able to send them. I'd like to write some new people letters as well- so, if you want a letter from a random sinister just write to me outside of sinister and say hello. All you've got to put is an address and I'll send away. I do a lot better when I have more to do. Oh my, this is very jumbled. Sorry if I've confused or scared anyone... -Elizabeth _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Tue Jun 10 12:08:21 2003 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:08:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: fleeing's rather feeble (Fw: picnicking this weekend) Message-ID: Hello everyone Picnic in the streets on london, picnic in the streets of birmingham etc. well no picnic on the streets of birmingham actually but in LONDON - i have a forwarded message from Caitlin Pigtails Ross regarding THIS WEEKEND, when some folks are gathering for a picnic/meetup thingie at GREENWICH. FYI: The best place to meet is maybe actually at the CUTTY SARK Docklands Light Railway station, at 2pm. And then wait there for a bit, and then go to greenwich park, i.e. where the observatory is. There is a fine pub called The Cutty Sark, and it's nice. More details at the forwarded mail below. Hopefully see some of yous soon. Ken > ---------- > From: wpsalt at xxx.com] > Sent: 07 June 2003 14:09 > To: Chu,Kenneth > Subject: Picnicing next weekend > > I've booked my tickets to come to London and everything, and found a place > to stay, so if it all falls through at this stage i'll be *majorly* pissed > off. > > That being the case, can you post to Sinister and announce a picnic for > next Saturday? Four people saying they're definitely considering it is > probably enough for it to be worth going ahead with. > > My suggested details are: > > Picnic in Greenwich Park, 2pm, Saturday the 14th. I've not been there for > years and don't know it at all, so my best suggestion is that we should > meet up by the Cutty Sark (cos it's nearby and easy to find). > > After that, someone who knows Greenwich a bit better than me can find us a > pub to go to. If you think enough people will come, you could suggest > football too. > > Feel free to put my phone number on the announcement email; it's 07990 > 575869. > > Thanks; see you soon, > Caitlin > > -- > http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/ > ********************************************************************** This email is confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If this email was not intended for you please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator at uclh.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Wed Jun 11 15:11:34 2003 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_[Steady-State]?=) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:11:34 +0200 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Will_you_get_up_and_do_the_things_you_belive_in=3F?= Message-ID: Dear Sinister I am back in my home country at present. This like to call this county the lakes land, and is a place somewhere around northern Italy. It is so much in the north that it is almost Switzerland. Actually It is just a few tens of mile by car. If you are a driver good and brave enough to dare to go up there, and there are no traffic jams, them it can be indeed a lovely drive by the lake, and it has been one of the finest moment I can remember in my life when I dared to drive in my old nth hand care that I have bought from my younger brother the one who made me shine. At that time, being in this place was as it has never been, or as I have never remember it has been. I felt comfortable with my whole existence, and whit the place I grew up, which I always dreamt of fled away towards unknown destination. My secret plan as a teen age was to go to the dock and board towards a unknown destination, whatever but far away from this place, that life, that everyday boredom. Still I´ve nev! er had the courage of pack up my few things, get on train, then on a boat, and finally somewhere in the middle on the sea where the sun burn your skin and the salt your lips, but you might eventually feel alive. You can think you have tried. To live. Properly. It looks like there is a spell, and all the time I´m coming here something unexpected, and not always the funniest one, is going to happen. At Christmas time, I took a few steps, still in the airport, and I felt like I was breathing, completely, fully, and without conditions. It was a new beginning. I was sure I´ve turn the page, and for how much I have been unhappy and unsatisfied with all my life had been since a few months before, everything had change. I simply alive. I felt like a human being, like all my life hasn´t just being a waste of time. A traceless running of seconds. A cheap and useless thing. I felt like it has been worth waiting all the time I had to be lighted up. And I firmly though all the past was over, the lonely time was passed and nothing but th ´s eyes, in which I mirror in the morning, was what I would have had, and a stolen smile in the fragile sleep. A memory trough the day until it would have been time to pick one more the morning to come. Yes, I felt loved. And how does it feel to be loved? It feels like it is the only thing that has ever meant anything to me at all. And it is not that great to look out of the window in the morning wondering if, one day, the thing will change again, with that kind of feeling that you know you are telling lies to yourself, because there are people, for the way the things go that are going to be on their own. I always though anyone have in his life what its deserved, because it is what we do, all the choices and the decision we make, the thing we have or haven´t dared to do or say that writes our story. We are writing it in our own fashion, even if we don´t like it the way it is written. Not all of us are good writer, even if, I think anyone try his best, still it is not said it! is going to be enough. Even if I have always though this, strongly and resolutely, for a while I tried to hide to hide to myself how the truth was, how there was no one but me to blame, how I have been silly and proud and have done my best to destroy any possibility of getting out of the state I was in. And that was just because I was scared of being happy. And I needed my little world to collapse over me to realise it. Silly, isn´t it? But now I am not scared anymore to be happy. I might sound stupid, or rhetoric, or childish, or whatever you want, but that is it. I am not scared anymore of being happy. And I think that there is something special which is able to turn each of us on. It can be creating a new rose variety, playing cricket or climbing the Everest, or more simply spying someone´s dream when you wake up. Last Saturday my grandma passed over. She was quite old, and it was relatively past. She didn´t suffer much, and I like to think the last time she saw me, I looked different and smiley, like I´ve never look since I was a child s. Of course I have no memories of that, but I definitely won´t define myself a social adult. I don´t know when and how the things changed. At a certain point they changed, or I let, or made them change, but that is not worth. I´m sure my grandma knew how it does feel to be loved, because one can see in all the old fashioned photograph in black and white the way my granddad looked at here, and I have seen how, in the late days, he cared and looked forward her, day by day, hour by hour. Thinking at that it makes my heart melt and tear run, but they will dry soon. Saturday was an unbelievably warm, almost hard to stay inside the house, and as the evening came, my childhood definitely finished. It has been like all the memories of that time have start to irreversibly fade out when my grandma, her name was Bianca, left. A widely expected, predictable, but still harsh turning point of a lifetime. It is at turning point a that one start to make a balance of the things he have done! , he would have like to do and will love to do in his life, I think. At least I do. The only feeling I had is that my life is running away with me without living anything worth being remembered. a lonely human being leaving faint footprints, a decoloured image on the background of a photograph, and which is still wondering if one day can be a little more close to the subject of that and if the snapshot can be developed. Will he move that couple of steps ahead or not? Well if it is all the result of what I have done, I must listen to the deep of my conscience and take all the consequences it involves. I don´t know what it does entirely mean, to be honest. All I know is that the things can´t go on as they are at present, either one way, or another, they have to change. I think I´m built with a fight temper. I know everyone suffer and fight on a daily basis. But I feel like this every day defeats are just weakening at the point that I won´t have any strength to fight back, and a candle which is light is dim and feeble, will till all the wax the pain is over. I wish you all happiness (And if it comes, grab it with both full hands) yours stefano ~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~# in the time of the winter the waiter fell into the snow he could hear a voice but will he ever find his way if I'm so far from your heart why do I feel it beat and time won't wait for us ~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Wed Jun 11 16:02:43 2003 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_[Steady-State]?=) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:02:43 +0200 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?a_good_day_for_posting_[#2]?= Message-ID: Sinister, my dear Two post in a day, and actually in a row, that can be a bit too much, but, still, well radical change of subject, so it can actually be two different people writing. I am wondering how many characters I can play in a single day of mine. Hope not too many otherwise I'll get confused, even if I could eventually be booked for a remake of dr. Strangelove, but I am firmly sure no-one can even think to compete with the genius of Peter Sellers: still wondering how they could give the Oscar to rex Harrington for my fair lady that year. Nothing to say about the always more beautiful than it can be described Audrey Hepburn, but still genius is genius.. dimitri!!! *Pinic*#1 Well that said, it is apparent that the picnic season is opened, we have had a call for Greenwich park this Saturday by Caitlin. I think it is a great idea. The sun is shining (in Milan), but the [Italian] weather forecast showed a bright sun over England capital, which made me go, like, *yes*, and can't really wait to be back in my comfy mole. And if picnic is always a good idea, a sinister picnic is almost always a GREAT idea... *picnic*#2 It is such a great idea, generally speaking, that we might indeed need more, and as previously announced, we wish to have one on the Saturday the 28th (June) as well. So THIS IS A CALL!!!! I know it is glasto weekend, but I hope there still be someone who can't go there and would like to enjoy the joy of the park. Honestly the park is often a joy, and is enjoyable to like in a city with so many park in it that even in a couple of weeks time it is possible to experience more than one! Since when Ken has been picnic mum we went to the traditional and always great primrose hill, and Caitlin called for the gorgeous Greenwich, I think we can do Hide Park for the 28th, if someone fancy that, or have a better suggestion please let me know. In we are going to stick to Hide park suggestion then the best would be to meet at Hide Park Corner tube station, tha icnic food and boozes if needed, and then explore the serpentine and the park itself. MORE DETAILS TO COME. [personal contact is DEEPLY appreciated] *pinic*#3 yes, picnics are never enough. never even. so thank you very much to the lovely ER!I!C! which said it would be eventually possible to have one on the US east coast: that would be a dream , and will fulfil a record of three picnic in a row, which would be absolutely fantastic. and as ken said, you never know, you might find love there. I heard people, I knew, did. *club*T!I!G!E!R!M!I!L!K!I!N!G!*club* ok, that is a bit of advertisement, please be clement, you can skip the following couple of lines, if you prefer... would that be enough not be beat in the public square? hope so. YES! we are trying to have the tigermilking club back on line: we have a date: 19th July 2003 we have a venue: the Betsey Trotwood and we have a timetable: 8 p.m to 1 a.m. More details and surprise to come as well. Hope I'll see you a few of you there and that it will be and enjoyable time. and this is I think pretty much for today Friday should be a good day for flying I hope Your Stefano ~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~# in the time of the winter the waiter fell into the snow he could hear a voice but will he ever find his way if I'm so far from your heart why do I feel it beat and time won't wait for us ~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Thu Jun 12 18:20:43 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: all kinds of everything Message-ID: <20030612172043.61179.qmail@web40606.mail.yahoo.com> so dirty vicar gave me quite a lashing for referencing chris deburgh in a sinister post...what do you think he'll do to me for referencing dana? :o) hi all. it's been awhile. you remember me, i'm stine. the right wing republican who is not a man from sweden. so how have you all been? i hope that this finds you well and up to loads of exciting adventures. what has been going on with me? not a whole lot. the eldest of my charges is now out of school so my days have been to busy with scholastic type activities....that allows no time for posting to sinister. i think you often though. :O) on monday the girls and i were stuck in the house on a rainy day...so we turned the basement into an ocean. i cut out waves out of blue paper, the girls made fish, algae, etc, and we plastered it up all over. looks v. cool. i think my bosses were very impressed with it. it is always nice to impress your bosses, no matter your field. today we ventured to the library. funny thing. the little one LOVES reading. she cries when i tell her to put her books down so we can go outside to play. she is 2. anyway, she hates to leave whatever she is doing. at the library, she found a stool that she was quite taken with. when it was time for us to leave the part of the library we were in so that we could look for some cd's to borrow, she had a total meltdown. everyone in the library was staring at me as though i was trying to skin her alive. it was mortifying. good times. in the way of entertainment type things i have been: listening to the new radiohead. i like it, i have just been in more of a sing-along mood...you can't really sing along to radiohead. have been listening to (obsessively so) the tape that dirty vicar made for me...of gavin friday's radio appearance in dublin. i love it! i think that mary-margaret (or margareth, depending on whom you ask) o'hara has the most lovely voice of anyone in the history of vocal chords. if i could sing like her my life would be a musical! i saw Gangs of New York the other day...I liked it overall. it was VERY LONG, and sad, and violent....but I think that it summarised the events rather accurately (so far as i know anyway)> saw Down with Love a few weeks ago. v. cute. ewan mcgregor is sooooo yummy! got my very own copy of "Breakfast on Pluto" by Pat(rick) McCabe. Should be good....(i realise that book titles should be underlined, for some reason I can never underline in Yahoo mail). i have also been watching countless episodes of :"sex and the City" (of which my friends say I am a cross between Miranda and Carrie), Friends (which my friends say I am most like Chandler/Monica) and The Young Ones (which I adore, but seriously hope I do not resemble any of the characters on :o) oh yeah, one last thing. i don't s'pose the odds of anyone from this list going to a) the taste of lombard festival or b) the tracy chapman gig are very good, but if, for some reason, you happen to be at either of those events, I will be working the events for Amnesty International....stop by and say hi! :o) ta. love ~stine ah well. i s'pose that's all __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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There's some clues in there about what I've been up to, but mostly they're just GOOD THINGS. Hope this doesn't piss off anyone who insist that lists aren't allowed on the list (huh?) In fact, thinking about it, I hope it does piss them off. *hwar hwar* Was it not Noam Chomsky who said "for fucks sake Dean, just get on with it and let those good people get back to their tiramisu". They're not in any particular order. I think everyone should do a list too. But no B&S songs; I think we'd probably all agree on those (apart from "Beyond the Sunrise" which always gets skipped by me :o) ) Here we go. 1. Motorised screwdrivers; 2. When you play Grand Theft Auto - Vice City for that long that when you're driving you think, just for a split second, of driving your car off bridges, over car carrier thingies and mowing down old ladies (ps - did anyone hear the rumour that eminem is going to play Tommy in a Vice City movie?); 3. Scooping the inside out of a jacket potato, mixing with cheese and butter, mashing it up with a fork, and serving it on toast - sounds weird, actually pretty good. You could probably add some tuna too; 4. The Rocky Horror Picture Show; 5. Driving through the English countryside too fast when it's sunny, singing along to "Come on Feel the Lemonheads" at the top of your voice. 6. When you put your trousers in the wash and check your pockets beforehand and pull out a twenty pound note you didn't know you had; 7. The new Canyon CD - Empty Rooms; 8. Halibut in a white wine and stilton sauce, served with even more white wine, asparagus and potatoes; 9. Moving in with your girlfriend within two weeks of knowing her after the blind date mentioned in the previous post about a month back; 10. A good beer garden; 11. Writing posts to a Belle and Sebastian mailing list with very little Belle and Sebastian content whatsoever - um, apart from this and the bit above *natch*; 12. Last weekend's stag do in Newcastle despite the enormous expense, and another weekend away in Whitby a couple of weeks ago, despite the enormous expense; 13. Arguing with stupid fuckwitted councillors who insist that things should operate in a certain way because that's the way they've always been done; 14. My brilliant new Elvis cufflinks; 15. Going to see an outdoor production of Merchant of Venice, in the sun, with yet more wine. And noisy peacocks too which become part of the play in a weird manner; 16. Watching Blair squirm about this dodgy intelligence dossier; 17. Being really snobby about people who watch Big Brother; 18. Eddie Izzard - particularly his older stuff; 19. Dogs, particularly large stupid drooly ones like golden retrievers and labradors; 20. Babangida the flying Nigerian winger in Championship Manager 4. Have fun Dean X __________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From notirakaplan at xxx.uk Fri Jun 13 14:47:28 2003 From: notirakaplan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?josh=20hogan?=) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:47:28 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: this weekend, london, the smoke Message-ID: <20030613134728.70782.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Some of you may be interested to know that John Hogarty (who plays guitar on Waking up to Us)'s band National Park (who you may have seen playing with Belle and Sebastian at Shepherd's Bush Empire) are playing in: London, Arts Cafe, 14 June They'll be playing with Finlay (who plays keyboards in Teenage Fanclub sometimes)'s band. National Park are like this: a mystery band, loose, first single ten minutes long and recorded on a tape deck, folky, warm, a bit like the Velvet Underground, lonesome, appear on the Domino Geographic Records compilation "You don't need darkness to do what you think is right". For more info: http://www.nationalparksite.com thepark at nationalparksite.com Tickets: http://www.rarepleasures.co.uk __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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That's because I got to hear a recording of "Wrapped Up In Books" today, and despite the audience chatter its posssible to make out that part of the song is reminiscent of a bit of "In The Country" which Cliff and the Shadows released in December 1966, I think. So there's another one of those similarities to add to the list. .................. I know that people hate short posts on this list, but having sat here at the keyboard staring at the screen for ten minutes I don't have anything else to say. Except of course that I love you all dearly, even those of you I don't. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Sun Jun 15 07:37:58 2003 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:37:58 +0700 Subject: Sinister: never fast on an empty stomach Message-ID: I am currently working on what I consider to be one of the greatest books ever written. But I don't think I'll finish it cause the print is so small. I'm reading "Getting Even" by Woody Allen at the moment. I am going to make a bold statement and say *it is the funniest thing I have ever read* (imagine the bold text and it is less not funny). ba doom ching(i've always wanted to make an intertextual joke... if only I could use Comic Sans font, though some would say that joke was Sans Comic). As you can see this book is having a big influence on me - I'm trying to make twice as many double entendre's as I usually do (I guess they would be quadruple entendre's if you get my meaning meaning meaning meaning*). It is a collection of pieces he wrote for magazines in the 60's, and includes tales of Hitler's hairdresser, transcripts from a chess-by-mail game, Metterling's laundry lists, and lots of other hilarious stuff. This book will change your life, though as you can see this may not be a good thing. Woody Allen is fantastic. I have devoted the last year of my life to watching every Woody film, but I've still got quite a lot to go. My favourites so far are Sleeper and Annie Hall (which is Stuart Murdoch's favourite film. Isn't Stuart's diary great? His latest entry is a poem titled "I'm in love with my therapist"). "Slim's Shout" by Sunnyland Slim has been in my discman lately. I know nothing about Blues music or Blues musicians, but this album completely blues my socks off, leaving me with cold feet. I should stop now before I turn into a blubbering mess, or my brain turns on me and causes reversible damage (okay all together now: "groan"). love, terry *I will send a prize to anyone who can come up with a funny quadruple entendre without looking at a James Joyce novel or a Shakespeare play. Dictionaries and thesaurus' are allowed. And bonus points for smuttiness and Belle and Sebastian references! --- here's what i think: http://naivetysucceeds.blogspot.com caitlin and terry's sinister recipe tree archives: http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/sinifood/ ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SGTHURMOND at xxx.com Sun Jun 15 14:44:32 2003 From: SGTHURMOND at xxx.com (SGTHURMOND at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:44:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: never fast on an empty stomach Message-ID: <62BA0B0E.71D4B2E0.0BCB1B57@aol.com> what about 'love and death'? why the hell doesn't anyone ever mention 'love and death' on their lists?!? that is by far one of mr. allen's most entertaining films!! come on! it's got the grim reaper in there - any time that guy makes a cameo, you know it's good stuff! sarah +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Sun Jun 15 22:31:16 2003 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_[Steady-State]?=) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:31:16 +0200 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Reporting_back_(on_future_plans)_?= Message-ID: Dear Sinister Greenwich village was very busy, people coming and going from the marked, I suppose, or the shops, or, might be, just heading to the park. There is not such a good afternoon then one spent in the park, and if it is spent at a sinister picnic it is even better. Before going there we stayed for a while at the Cutty Sark place, where skater did entertain the ice cream furnished crowd by jumping up and down the wooden stairs. Indeed the presence of the boat, the ice cream selling vans, the number of children, and, at last, the temperature, made me forget for a second we were actually staying in London, but rather in some marine resort. Ok, there was not a beach, and ‘no swimming, danger: sharks’ panel, but still all looked extremely summery. So listing (and apologise if I’ll forgive anyone); James, Paul, Neil, Tara, Mark, and, of course, Caitlin. Ken joined us a bit later on the top of the hill, where we sitting in the shadow. The afternoon passed very pleasantly, drinking a! little bit less then usual, eating season’s fruit (sounds a bit to healthy, indeed) and neck less gingerbread man. This has been till a light but rather cold breeze started to blow and we moved a little bit more in sunlight, and became part of the background of what we had finally decide it was musical video, in which three man wearing dark suits and umbrella, were pushing a fluorescent yellow balloon. It was argued what was the idea behind playing with a yellow balloon and what does it symbolise, but I think I’ve missed the final conclusion. At the end the balloon exploded and the men walked away. Look forward to see if I’ll see the video one day on the telly. That should be fun. It is amazing how long the day can be in this country in the summer. I know it is not so surprising for most of you, but coming from continental Europe full sunlight at about eight p.m. is really astonishing. So we stayed for a bit longer, before the traditional move to the pub, from which we could see the sun sets over the Thames. And that was here were still people in the pub, so I can’t say how the day ended, but I really hope, and I am almost sure, in the best way as possible. *Future plans for picnic kids* I had before mentioned that we might have had a picnic on the 28th June in Hide Park. As James suggested yesterday we shall have a TOUR in ALL the PARKS in LONDON! Such a GREAT IDEA!! So as Primrose Hill and Greenwich has been recently explored I think we can Do Hide Park. If you fancy coming these are details: Saturday 28th June HIDE PARK (Corner) Ideally meeting outside the tube station at about 2ish Of Course everybody is welcome but NEWCOMERS are more then ever. Will it be a bit scary? Ehm ehm eventually Will it be funny? almost definitely. I hope at least Hope you all are fine Take care Yours truly, rather steady, stefano ~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~# in the time of the winter the waiter fell into the snow he could hear a voice but will he ever find his way if I'm so far from your heart why do I feel it beat and time won't wait for us ~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Hewitt at xxx.uk Mon Jun 16 17:29:41 2003 From: S.Hewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:29:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Why does the bloke who writes the fiver keep putting b&s quotes a t the bottom? Message-ID: ello babies Daddy Moore said: > Hi All, > > This is the only time I ever wrote to Sinister without any > trouble thinking > of Sir Cliff Richard. That's because I got to hear a > recording of "Wrapped > Up In Books" today, and despite the audience chatter its > posssible to make > out that part of the song is reminiscent of a bit of "In The > Country" which > Cliff and the Shadows released in December 1966, I think. So > there's another > one of those similarities to add to the list. Which reminded me that I hadn't told you that I'd actually got round to updating the list and putting it in some sort of order and everything. Look, it is here: http://www.geocities.com/carsmilesteve/allmusicisintrinsicallylinked.htm If you think of any more let me know and they'll probably go up in about 12 months time :) Stefano has been talking about HIDE park, and I'm assuming he means HYDE park, named after the character in Dr Jeckyl and Mr Hyde, you know. I shall not be there as I shall be at glasto, probably drinking perry, mmm, perry... If YOU are going to glastonbury, come to the brothers bar perry stall by the oneworld stage on Thursday nite, were there shall be all the interweb people I know (who are at glastonbury) (blimey, what a venn diagram that would make. Did you know you can make venn diagrams in excel now, they're a bit rub though?). Even the non-sinister ones are quite nice. But what I really want to know is how are robin's potatoes getting on?? Also does anyone know if proper ITV (or even ITV2) will be showing the africa concert for those of us who had never heard of Karen Dunbar before the gig? Oh while I've got your attention, can I just point you to this link too: http://ilx.wh3rd.net/images/FTflyer.gif It's ME! Djing! With some other people!! It's free!!!! And everything!!!! And now, let us never speak of it again... I should be going to my class tonight, but I think I might go and see YOU in the pub (although, statistically speaking, it's likely that I have already seen you in the pub, if you were there, as you are more likely to see this missive tomorrow, ie today)... Also happy bloomsday :) xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Mon Jun 16 18:08:40 2003 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Caitlin Ross) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:08:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A summer that doesn't feel wasted Message-ID: <20030616170840.GA2735@elvis.scotwebshops.com> Thanks to everyone who came along to the lovely sunny Greenwich Park on Saturday. We were such stars, we were given a naval gun salute whilst waiting in Cutty Sark Gardens. After realising that Ken would probably take hours to arrive, we set off up the hill into the park. We sat on the grass and watched squirrels, illicit barbecues and women being pulled around in little carts. We talked about pigeon porn, gingerbread orgies, and a dog invaded the picnic and started licking someone's cherries. Over in the distance, three men were making a pop video. One looked a little like Moby, or maybe Michael Stipe. They tried to throw a big yellow balloon about, but it hovered in midair and blew off in the wrong direction. They stage-fought each other with umbrellas; we wondered if it was a Bulgarian spy training school. Eventually their balloon burst, so they had to make do with their umbrellas, and a guitar they took turns to strum tunelessly. My holiday in London made me want to come down to London all the time and do stuff like that *every* weekend. I mean, it's the BIG CITY! Many thanks to Ken for emailing you all about it when I couldn't post to the list, and Mark, Neil, Paul, James and Tara for coming along too. In London, I was staying with an old friend (who doesn't like B&S), in a wee basement flat somewhere between Brixton and Stockwell. Sitting on his sofa on my first evening, I looked around and took in the room. Over in the corner on the far side of the room was a big shelf bursting with CDs. I flicked my eyes over their spines, and saw one whose spine was mostly white with black writing, but with a small patch of green at one end. "Woo!" I thought, "this is going to be a good holiday." love xx Caitlin -- http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From superh3 at xxx.com Mon Jun 16 13:39:35 2003 From: superh3 at xxx.com (paul hardman) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:39:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Things & Stuff Message-ID: 20 things tickling me at present are....................... 1. Without a doubt the coolest band in the world. 2. The prospect of seeing Ronaldhino line up behind The Van Man. 3. My local boozer, now, The Hill St Blues Waarmoerstraat. 'Cause you can meet someone from somewhere different everyday. 4. The girl from New Jersey I met in there on Friday. 5. The fact that i'm going after work as it's someone's boithday today. 6. Missing all the sun in Amsterdam this weekend because my mate came down from Brussels to play the new imported ISS Winning 11 game. Almost better than watching the real thing. 7. The fact that my �^¬50 bag of Thai is still half full. Bought last week. (I have a never ending supply). 8. Going to see in Brussels a few weeks ago, Anarchy. 9. My home recording studio is now working, watch out everyone. 10. Getting the 'Son of Osiris' God power in Age of Mythology and winning the game with him. 11. Reading, "Rolling with the 6.57 crew" and realising that save a few black eyes and bruises, I ain't missing too much. Don't bother reading it, it was lent to me. 12. Sunshine in Amsterdam......makes it a completely different place. 13. The way the girls these days seem to want to outdo each other by wearing as little clothing as possible during the hot weather. Still not competetive enough in my book. 14. Not having to give a f*** about Big brother everywhere as we only get BBC1 & 2 over here. Though I never saw it whilst still living in Warrington. Far too many talentless people on the t.v. these days. Talentless presenters, presenting talentless acts. I think we're worth a little more than that. 15. Watching England stuttering on the Euro decision from overseas. When currencies change, and this for me is the thing to remember. You're spending habbits don't....that much. Couldn't care less myself what picture is on any note as there is only one important detail on it....the amount. 16. The fact that out of all the countries that went into the Euro, one of the only one's that did'nt, (England) has exactly the same monetry demoninations. 1p, 2p, 5p etc all the way down my friends. 17. My supervisor's gone to France for 2 weeks thus giving me the office to myself...........so I end up doing stuff like this. 18. Playing Bomb Jack on my Mcmame for the last 20 mins of my shifts everyday. Anyone beat 338880? 19. Trying to be clever on internet dating sites. Good God, this makes me not only a loser but with all the computer references, a nerd also, you'd think. 20. Being such a sweet nice person that I only hate Two things.....living things & objects. 'H'. _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Tue Jun 17 00:51:18 2003 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:51:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: in my life Message-ID: I started off seeing Belle & Sebastian gigs in groups of two or three at a time. I guess I was making up for my first big mistake - staying in the bar at the ICA during the support band when the Tindersticks played at the end of 1996. Two days later I had "Sinister" and I've been kicking myself ever since. Next time was different: the two concerts at the start of 1997, QMU in Glasgow and the Assembly Rooms in Edinburgh the next day. Both fantastic. Then the first London show at the Union Chapel (terrible compared to the Scottish shows) and the Oxford Zodiac the next day (brilliant). Then two shows in New York. Recording a TV show called the 54th Sessions or something (was this ever shown? I'd love to see it) and the Angel Orresanz Foundation a few days later (Stuart dancing to "What Goes On", clearly overjoyed to be in NYC). I could only make one Manchester show at Christmas, so when they played Leeds, Nottingham and London, I had to go to all three to make up. I made some notes at the Leeds show. I was going to write something about going to all three shows. I took some photos. The pics were so bad, the piece was never written. But here's the interesting bits of what I noted down in Leeds. It's mostly just their banter. There's the making of an Ink Short Film in here somewhere. THAT NIGHT IN LEEDS IN 1998 Thursday 17th - sinatra the movie years - Friday 18th chas n dave - 19th royal family - the ultimate tribute to queen - freddy mercury - built in 1865 - chaplin and houdini performed here - ³Come on² is that a member of the verve in the audience - mad bloke up at the stage - stand where you want - get him onstage to dance - b&S bez - come on and dance down the front - ³Century Of Fakers² - he tried his best but he ended up looking dumb - ŒCentury Of Strippers² - ³The Wrong Girl² - can we have a starry backdrop for this one - the girls sit down =- ³Spaceboy Dream² =- ³Get Me Away² - ³has anyone got their tickets for chas and dave. I¹ve got mine, chas and dave are much better than us - ³Yeah!² ³To Sir With Love² - what a rabble - big cheer - dog on wheels - dream two -= stevie so stern with his little flourishes - mick forward and gorgeous trumpet - ³Loneliness Of The Middle Distance Runner² - used to work in this building - serge gainsbourg song - ³all the girls have to take their tops off² s: ³boys too² - ³state I¹m in² - everyone singing - ³Lazy Line Painter Jane² steve doing the soulful singing = plays his guitar like every chord is his last - ³It could have been a brilliant career² - chris and stuart david on guitar - dylan - losing it - has anyone got a two pound coin I can have - self conscious stevie - chick factor - someone shouts ³you;¹re sexy² sixty, do I look old? - forgotten the words on the last song =- rollercoaster ride - I MENTION ALL THIS BECAUSE... I'm doing three nights in a row again myself - London, Oxford and Nottingham - and I can't help think of how much my life has changed since the first three night stand. I should think so too: it's been five long years. But even so. You don't expect so much to happen. But it does. It happens all the time. You can't stop it. For some reason, I've got "In My Life" playing in my head right now. Nice harpsichord. Anyway... How Does It Feel To Be Loved? across the nation (well, a bit of it) June 19th, Buffalo Bars, Underneath the Famous Cock Tavern, right outside Highbury & Islington tube, London, 9pm-2am, £3 in - guests The Happy Couple (Germany's finest indie Motown DJ team) June 20th, Upstairs @ The Folly Bridge Inn, Abingdon Road, Oxford. 7.30pm - 11.30. £3 entry. June 21st, Junktion 7, Nottingham - with Fosca, The Liberty Ship, Hellfire Sermons and me and Stuart Murdoch DJ-ing. Adm: £4/5. Nottingham Stop the War Coalition Gig & Disco If you hear "In My Life" at any of these nights, you'll know why. x http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk http://www.lyricsdomain.com/lyrics/6207/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Tue Jun 17 02:37:00 2003 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (Andrea Kittenmouse) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:37:00 -0700 Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian alphabet radio Message-ID: Hi, Just a last minute reminder that I'm playing all belle and sebastian songs in alphabetical order on kittenmouse radio tonight from 8 to 11 pm pacific standard time (that's 8 hours behind greenwich mean time and 3 hours behind eastern standard time). If you are in Portland, Oregon, you can hear it on 1450 am, and if you are elsewhere you can hear it in real audio or windows media at www.kpsu.org. Feel free to drop in on our frequency any time during our 3 hour broadcast tonight, or listen to the whole thing...whatever you like... :o) To recap: All Belle and Sebastian Songs All Alphabetical Kittenmouse Radio 8-11 pm pacific standard time 1450 AM in Portland, Oregon in realaudio at www.kpsu.org for a playlist, visit www.livejournal.com/users/kittenmouse your friend, Andrea _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Tue Jun 17 06:47:27 2003 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:47:27 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Rachel Frootloop: Heard the dedication!! Message-ID: <02ff01c33493$ef8c6be0$0a0110ac@pavilion> Hey Rachel... remember me? I just heard Ben's dedication to you on the "B&S Alphabetical" show. Congrats, you're now more famous than ever. Glad to be back in Sinisterville. Are any of the other famous names still here? Joan of Dark?? Lisa "List-Dominatrix" Morrison? Archel? Hey, i was gone a while, cut me some slack. At least some of my "body parts" are still up on the Sinister site. Yours in horror, ~Brier Random Brier's Homepage: www.brier.homestead.com This email ©2003 Courtesy of the Unspeakable Visions of the Individual +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Tue Jun 17 08:14:50 2003 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:14:50 -0700 Subject: Sinister: the whereabouts of Lisa Morrison References: Message-ID: <032801c334a0$25313760$0a0110ac@pavilion> Well damn, JB... that stings, but I guess it's nice to know the truth. I sent a letter to Lisa's parents house, and it went unanswered. I guess I now know why. Well, thanks for getting back to me anyway. And, if any Greek sinisterines have word of Joan Of Dark, please pass on to me. And in B&S related news, I just had a column published in the Santa Barbara Independent, about The Smiths: www.brier.homestead.com/files/PSS_May_2003.jpg And if that interests you, then you may want to read all of my columns and CD reviews, which can be found here: www.brier.homestead.com/indy.html Well, whatever. Hope you love me. ~Brier > > Lisa Morrison got a boy friend and hasn't been seen from since ;) > > nice to see an old name back > > > back to lurksville > > jb. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shiplore at xxx.com Tue Jun 17 07:53:09 2003 From: shiplore at xxx.com (J B) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 02:53:09 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Rachel Frootloop: Heard the dedication!! Message-ID: Lisa Morrison got a boy friend and hasn't been seen from since ;) nice to see an old name back back to lurksville jb. >From: "Brier Random" >Reply-To: "Brier Random" >To: "Sinister" >Subject: Sinister: Rachel Frootloop: Heard the dedication!! >Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:47:27 -0700 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from mc3-f8.law16.hotmail.com ([65.54.236.143]) by >mc3-s15.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Mon, 16 >Jun 2003 23:48:57 -0700 >Received: from mail5.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.79]) by >mc3-f8.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Mon, 16 Jun >2003 23:47:21 -0700 >Received: from missprint.org (missprint.org [216.122.88.147])by >mail5.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.8/8.12.9) with ESMTP id >h5H5hheb027120;Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:48:12 -0400 >Received: from localhost (missprin at localhost)by missprint.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) >with SMTP id GAA13266;Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:50:41 +0100 (GMT/BST) >Received: by missprint.org (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:50:24 >+0100 >Received: by missprint.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA13202for a66403198; Tue, 17 >Jun 2003 06:50:24 +0100 (GMT/BST) >X-Message-Info: 820stLNiepR2PyHkKYPO1lJ65qO6/JF5 >Message-ID: <02ff01c33493$ef8c6be0$0a0110ac at pavilion> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 >X-ELNK-Trace: >0060f23a73401829fc909417906a02421d2aed6729f9b122b5a4b4f24317cad2846763b773ab9d32350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c >Sender: owner-sinister at missprint.org >List-Id: "Sinister Mailing List" >List-Help: , > >List-Unsubscribe: > >List-Subscribe: >List-Post: >List-Archive: >List-Owner: >X-Organisation: Miss Print's Printing House >X-List: Sinister >x-mailing-list: sinister at majordomo.net >Return-Path: owner-sinister at missprint.org >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jun 2003 06:47:22.0893 (UTC) >FILETIME=[4E40FBD0:01C3349C] > >Hey Rachel... remember me? I just heard Ben's dedication to you on the >"B&S >Alphabetical" show. Congrats, you're now more famous than ever. > >Glad to be back in Sinisterville. Are any of the other famous names still >here? Joan of Dark?? Lisa "List-Dominatrix" Morrison? Archel? Hey, i >was >gone a while, cut me some slack. > >At least some of my "body parts" are still up on the Sinister site. > >Yours in horror, > >~Brier Random > > > >Brier's Homepage: www.brier.homestead.com > >This email �2003 Courtesy of the Unspeakable Visions of the Individual > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Tue Jun 17 19:29:52 2003 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop-Apps) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I know that things have got to CHU, but what KEN I do? Message-ID: <20030617182952.81805.qmail@web9302.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister, I'm waking up to ME--in the subject line of sinister posts! Whoohoo! I've been called out of the woodwork again by Mr. BRIER RANDOM, Thanks for the shout-out! This post should prove to be A STAR-STUDDED AFFAIR since I haven't had the chance to name drop in so long! BEN APPS (BAPPS) was in *so much trouble* last night!!! We were listening to ANDREA KITTENMOUSE's B&S from A to Z (which was highly entertaining) and playing Scrabble with the cat, RHONDA, who is Kittenmouse's biggest fan. When suddenly, Ben's attention was diverted away from the game at hand and he was glued to the computer (like usual!) I was frustrated cos not only did I not have letters or space to spell out T-W-A-T or D-O-R-K, I couldn't find ANY words to make! Then the instant message chimes started sounding from the computer speakers! I angrily asked "Who are you talking to?!" and then he had to spill the BEANZ (Get it--Beanz! ha!) about the dedication. It was when I heard the dedication that I felt happy again! It was "There's Too Much Love"... awwww! I am a bad RACHEL. I haven't mailed our �VIVA RACHELS! mix tape to JUDGE KEN CHU yet. I have it in an envelope with a letter, I guess that's a start. I also have started copying tapes for the participants, but have yet to mail a single one out. I will make it a goal to complete the task by summer's end. Just a mere 8 or 9 months after the mixtape's completion! Speaking of Goals, my husBEN has a season ticket to see the L.A. GALAXY soccer team play at their new stadium in Carson, and his seat is right next to another Sinister fellow named ADRIAN RUDLOFF (Mr. GLURP). I went to the matches on the last 2 Saturdays with them, and it was really a lot of fun. After the first match, we went to Adrian's and had a sing-a-long with a few b&s songs being tried out. It wasn't half bad, either! I can't really beileve how quickly I've been converted to a football lover (though I can hardly call the sport that is played out here "football"; it still qualifies as "soccer" in my mind!) The most exciting thing is that we have tickets to see MANCHESTER UNITED play in L.A. next month!!! I hope I get to see my United boyfriend, OLE GUNNAR SOLSKJAER, in action. I also hope that little ANDREEA of Sinister chat fame will still be able to join us. Congratulations to Andreea for her graduation from college! Also Happy Birthday to her on Thursday! GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER!!! Ben and I returned to the site of our wedding reception in Santa Barbara, and you will never believe who we met up with!!! MARK CASAROTTO and SARAH GARRETT SONNER (Ms.SGS!!!) Sarah was embarrassed when someone suggested she made a mess on the floor, but that can happen to any girl when presented with a barrel full of nuts. I, myself, had my own embarrassing moment that night with a yummy Santa Barbara Blonde (don't worry, Ben watched!) It was so much fun seeing Mark and Sarah again. If any of you have an opportunity to visit that town, you really should cos it's gorgeous. SGS and Mark would contest to that, I'm sure. As would the locals, Brier and PHIL (hi Phil!) A few days after that meeting, we found ourselves at a surprise birthday party for a friend (who is actually the boyfriend of Ben's boss.) It was at a restaurant in Hollywood called Falcon, which is a little TOO posh for "our kind". It was *so* nice, I didn't even have to work very hard to pry the money out of Ben's hands at the end of the evening! I think he was distracted by the fact that LUKE WILSON was in our dinner party! I said "hey guy, I like your nurses uniform" and he said "These are O.R. scrubs" and I said "O.R. they?" and Ben choked on his food. Not really. I said "Hi I'm Rachel" and Ben said "Hi, I'm Ben" and he shook our hands and said "Hi, I'm Luke". Turns out he is the boyfriend of a model that is a friend of Ben's boss. Who knew! I was almost as google-eyed as I was sitting across the table from SGS and Mark! *swoon* They're cute!!!! I know some of you must have been flipping through the pages of PEOPLE MAGAZINE last month, and you were captivated by a SEXY HAIR CONCEPTS ad for the Healthy Sexy Hair shampoo. You probably weren't sure what it was about the ad that you liked so much... was it the model's flawless complexion and hairdo? Was it the gorgeous foil milk box that the bottle of shampoo rests in? Maybe so. More than likely you were entranced by the ad because your SINI-SENSES were tingling and you knew that someone from this list must have designed the ad! Well, rest assured, you were right! It was my piece of design work I was most proud of until... KATRINA HOUSE mentioned that I worked with STUART MURDOCH on the new footie shirt design!!!! *chuffed* In closing, I'd like to say that sometime soon, Adrian would like to have a SINISTER GO-KART RACE!!!!! Anyone interested? Southern Californians stay tuned for more details as they develop(and feel free to make suggestions!) Shout-outs to STINE, GRAINNE, JIM PURPLE TROUSERS, BUS STOPPER SARA, JOSE, MICHAEL VANCE and ALL THE RACHELS! Until next time... love, Rachel fruitloop-Apps __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmhyde at xxx.edu Wed Jun 18 00:45:41 2003 From: kmhyde at xxx.edu (Kevin Hyde) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:45:41 -0400 Subject: Sinister: sinister, your sweet ass gives me pause Message-ID: <004f01c3352a$8fe9d230$ac72ef80@DEVELOPMENT> Hi everyone, I've been off-and-on contemplating what sort of compromises I would have to make to transition into a career as a male softball player. In this kind of job market and economic atmosphere, I don't think I can afford NOT to consider all my options, and at this point, breaking into any traditionally distaff sport looks like my best bet. I figure I can create some sort of either media frenzy or storm by portraying myself as a mysterious drifter who's gotten out of the game, but is now realizing that, for the sake of beer-gutted men everywhere who play at company picnics, it's time to cast aside any self-doubt and just roll the dice, etc. This way I can say things like "I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing, and if people like it, well, that's a fucking bonus." during my inevitable interviews with Bryant Gumbel and Bob Costas and ESPN. Anyway though, I did want to mention, for those of you who are sedulously keeping track of all the personal details I reveal through my extremely standoff-ish and gruff email tone, that my family bought a new car. Without telling me. Again. Ok, so this wouldn't be such big news, I know, hardly a drop in the bucket of Sinister Big Time personal accomplishments, but here's the thing: it's a Pontiac Aztek (do you U.K.ers have these cars over there? If not, try to imagine an automobile designed by the bastard child of Frank Lloyd Wright, whose coalminer mother drank more than the recommended daily allowance of Nyquil during trimesters 1-3). My Mom apparently fell in love with it. It was not until I actually saw my Mom driving and enjoying this car that I realized that if there were such a thing as genetic Venn diagrams of aesthetic disposition, hers and mine would have a union of: null (which wouldn't that make an awesome greeting card?). So, yeah besides the shape of the car, notice the spelling of the name, with a 'k'. And plus the motto of Pontiac is (or was) "driving excitement". An odd thing to name a car after, that- the extinct indigenous peoples best known to me through the Julio Cortazar story "the Night Face Up", which freaked the juvenile shit out of me. But, perhaps the worst thing about this car is that it has an unattractive backside. You know what I mean- there are some cars that just have nice booty, and the Aztek is not one of them. It would take the Sir Mix-A-Lot of mechanics to appreciate the ass on the Aztek. So, maybe enough sexing of American vehicles for one post. I have to go respond to an email from one 'heinzyguc at lycos.de' who keeps writing to inform me of opportunities I might have to casually accost 'barely legal teen pink', which, when you think about it, that's some pretty impressive synecdoche for a porn mail. Sleep tight, Kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com Tue Jun 17 23:23:11 2003 From: pass_the_peas85 at xxx.com (hannah brown) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:23:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sonar mayhem Message-ID: greetings chumps, I got back from the Sonar festival in Barcelona today, i had a big long sparkly bath and now i am reflecting on it's wonderfulness. There was a brilliant selection of bands, dj's and obscure electronic nonsense including Bjork, Underworld, LCD Soundsystem and Ladytron. John Peel was knocking about and is raving about the festival on his show right now. My mate saw him in the chemist with his family, i hoped that i would see him too but i didn't, probably because i was too busy staring at the ground looking for money in true scabber style. Ladytron were quite fun but far too po-faced for my liking. I wanted that lead singer woman to wear denim and scream a bit. At on point i wanted to shoud something obscene like " Cut your hair, it looks shit!" but i didn't think they would understand. Bjork was truely wonderful, but i missed most of it because of the massive ques. I stood at the back and strained to get a glimps of her jumping about but she was too far awat. I wanted to be at the front so i could be totally immersed in her world. It made me shed a little tear. The highlight of the whole show was Schnider TM. You have got to check this lot out. They did that famous cover of "there is a light that never goes out" by The Smiths. Anyway, they came on in lab coats and played some crazy, cute, amusing electronica. Schnider ended up dancing around the stage like a robot and singing a song about vodka&orange and frogs. John Peel is playing the gig on thursday and i suggest you listen to it, even for the cool german accents. I was a the front whooping like a tropical bird. It's reaal good stuff. anyway i'm off to reflect some more and to try and forget that i'm not going to glastonbury again. hannah b _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lizdaplyn at xxx.com Tue Jun 17 22:51:00 2003 From: lizdaplyn at xxx.com (Liz Daplyn) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:51:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Puretonic Message-ID: Well well well, here we are once more. Summertime, and the living is easy, or at least not that hard. Although the head aches a little. Unplanned barbequeues of a Monday night are death to happy Tuesday awakenings, my friends, and that information is yours absolutely gratis, a gift from the horse�s mouth. (I got two pale hands up against the window pane I'm shaking with the heat of my need again) So, on and off on the bus in the mornings, I�ve been thinking about the different purposes people put popular music to. It�s all very interesting, at least to a half-asleep brain that�s managed to osmose a little poncy cultural theory over the past few years. Politically and publicly music is used for cheerleading purposes, for entertainment and for proselytizing, but here I�m thinking more about specifically personal and private functions. (Listening to the radio I feel so out of place There's a certain something missing that the treble can't erase) I mean, I refuse to believe that the estate kids hanging out near my house in the evenings think about nowt but shagging, drinking and dancing, just as I wouldn�t imagine that other cardie-wearing, biscuit-nibbling B&S fans think of nothing but tweenage lesbians and Terry Underwear while running through parks, pursued by townies, although these two images would seem to be suggested by the lyrical content of our respective listening matter. But any convenient stereotype (this word comes, interestingly enough, from early machine printing at the beginning of the age of mechanical reproduction) by its nature must involve abbreviation, elision and omission of essential elements in order to present a glib and exclusive surface for those both inside and outside the subculture in question. Pop music is a useful focus for the emerging social identity, augmented and accompanied by foxy corn-rows or, �alternatively�, Sanrio hairgrips. Is it something we give up as we slide comfortably into the Gap as we grow older and maybe more confident in our ability to retain our indentities while gradually becoming de-tribalised? After all, middle-aged people can look pretty daft in dolly shoes and Talulah Gosh t-shirts, and feel more comfortable in sensible trainers anyway. Or maybe we just need an easier ride without all that teenage angst to sustain us. (I know you can tell just by looking at my face A word about my weakness I'm totally addicted to bass) Does an instant connection with the booty bypass the brain entirely in the majority of our appreciation of music? I only know that the ticking beat and twitchy rrriddims of glossy UK Garage production are instantly recognisable and utterly attractive, leading to an ass-shaking of global proportions, but most of the lyrics are pure rubbidge, of course, as with 99% of everything. (Woah-woh-oh) This matters not a jot, because after all, most post-listening analysis only serves to provide some kind of semi-theoretical basis for justifying an initial gut reaction, whether positive or negative. Haha, like most cultural ramblings, our reactions say more about us than about the artistic product. (Your bassline is shooting up my spine Your bassline has got me feeling fine It's filling up my mind) Whatever, I�m hoping for some pure pop thrills, as well as something maybe a bit more errr cerebral, at the hugely exciting revival of Tigermilking in only a few short weeks� time. Do your worst, boys and girls of the decks, and those not so pivileged will, one hopes, turn up in droves to shake their thangs. This here has been written in bitesize chunks while experiencing the wonderful world of work as a (very junior) media �ho�, which today has involved sorting out a vastly disorganised and grubby stationery cupboard. So I�m feeeelthy now, but I�m off home to become clean, revise this pile of nonsense, then submit it for your kind attention. It doesn�t include half the brilliant stuff I thought I�d thought about, but like poetry written in the middle of the night, half-asleep bus musings rarely live up to expectations when solidified. Well, au revoir, chaps. Love, Liz :x p.s. Happy impending birthday, Archel! _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Wed Jun 18 09:37:00 2003 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:37:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: US Gigs Message-ID: <20030618083700.54895.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all Just a quick one because, on the band website, Struan says: "Ok, you crazy Yanks. You know how we're playing those concerts in August? New York, San Francisco, LA? (If you didn't know, we're playing three gigs in August)" Did you know about this? I didn't. He then goes on to talk about a treasure hunt and needing some help with it. You can read all about it here: http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/ (click on Writing) I am going to post something proper later on, but this seemed like URGENT AND KEY NEWS that HADN'T BEEN REPORTED. Unless I've been asleep for the last four days. Juicy Lucy ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ ************************************************** The Winchester Club http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Wed Jun 18 10:41:17 2003 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:41:17 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Ode Dear Message-ID: <20030618094117.10965.qmail@web14206.mail.yahoo.com> Stuart Murdoch We can withstand the arms of sex And shirt stretched tight on rounded pecs. What sends us ladies in a trance Is catching sight of silver pants. ************************* Sarah Martin Of all the places to lay one’s head - Chaise longue, four poster, futon, bed - The one where I’d like most to rest Is Sarah’s well-upholstered breast. ************************* Stevie Jackson A country lad is Stevie J, He tramps through fields of corn all day, He splashes in streams and climbs hayricks And his songs sound like the Mavericks. ************************* Chris Geddes Demon fingers, all a-blur, Make the hammond organ whir. What metier is more carefree Than all day tickling ivory? ************************* Richard Colburn Mr Colburn’s drumming face Makes him look like a mental case. I’d rather walk across Death Valley Than meet him down a darkened alley. ************************* Mick Cooke When the final trump is sounding And our world comes to an end, God’s musician must be astounding To outshine our brassy friend. ************************* Bob Kildea “What this band needs,” said Stu one day, “Is a gen-u-ine hearthrob.” “I know this chap who’s new in town,” Said Mick, “and his name’s Bob.” Juicy Lucy ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ ************************************************** The Winchester Club http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Wed Jun 18 10:59:52 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:59:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Housewives' Favourite Message-ID: When I was a little boy I used to wonder about my name and where it came from. My dad had been fostered and all of his family lost at sea, so I was possibly going to be the last Stout in the world. That's a great responsibility for a five year old to have to carry. If I had fallen over and dropped my ice lolly into the stinging nettles and was crying on my mother's knee, she would tell me a story about how there was a tiny island in the very north of Scotland where everyone was called Stout. That would stop me crying; I'd blink at the sky through my tears and think of this magical place and my responsibilities. I'd think about all the other Stouts on their fishing boats in their mackintoshes and feel close to them. I was strong. A melted ice lolly wouldn't upset me. Well, as I grew up I grew wiser and I decided that my mum's story about the wonderful stormy island where we all came from was nothing more than a rain-dappled dream. I got distracted by Top Trumps and dinosaurs, pop music and the girl at the desk in front of me. Then, one sunny day a bit like today - well, yesterday, actually - my sister phoned me to tell me that the full name of Cameron, the housewives' favourite from Big Brother Four, is Cameron Stout! More importantly he comes from Orkney and sells fish. As I said, we're a rare breed, so to find one of us living on Orkney must be more than a coincidence. I'm starting to think my mother might be right. And with his charm that makes Grandmothers swoon it only makes sense that we're related. I might have to make a pilgrimage to the islands and see if there's a sword in a stone waiting for me. *** There was a very small mention of Struan in the Independent, in this article here: http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/features/story.jsp?story=414309 See if you can spot it. Terry mentioned Stuart's Diary. It's great, I agree. A highlight. You know, I would have said that the only thing possibly better than Stuart's Diary is Robin's Express Delivery, but the Express Delivery has broken down at the moment and timewarped back to May for reasons I just can't understand. I think I'll have to take the delivery van to the garage. Anyway, I know some of you don't read Stuart's diary, or forget to, so here's the poem he wrote in case you haven't seen it. It's a cracker. (It seems the Poetry Parrot has been doing the rounds in Glasgow, lately). << 10.06.03: a poem I'm in love with my therapist I'm in love with my therapist She's the only one who understands me! The only one that never demands of me Promises, and super-scheduled weekends Pub gatherings And so much as the changing of a lightbulb I'm in love with my minister She's the only one who sits me down And preaches to me sensibly (And not without authority) She tells the story of her week And I collapse in warm and grateful reveries Of understanding I'm in love with my surroundings I'll hang them from me like a garland The streets; action borrowed from other people's lives 'I'll be a freak if you will' A market of inappropriateness Greets me at the bottom of my stairs I'm in love with a love forbidden by men's magazines A love which comes between a mate and his girl So I lie low and skulk. Well, not exactly The thrill of 'freedom' I'll let ring out a while longer She's tethered to his side in a pact Forced by the leaning curves of social compatibility Sod all that! I'll take a chance that we're missmatched as hell But I'm not going to force anything. I'm going to let fate show its hand In the longest and most boring game of love poker imaginable I'm still in love with my therapist though (SM & MS forever) Like polar bears and penguins Her friends and mine will never meet We stop short of meeting for coffee We stop short of walking each other home Stop short of crossing the line Where lurks the history The lies and the baggage under eyes The grim mornings And the wondering of a latched onto guilt Stuart >> I'm off to give blood now, if they'll take it. Deep breaths. Robin xxxxx ps: I'm going to the Stuart M dj set in Nottingham at the weekend, so if anyone's around let me know and I'll say hello. _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clairk at xxx.edu Wed Jun 18 18:50:01 2003 From: clairk at xxx.edu (clairk at xxx.edu) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:50:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i know where the summer goes Message-ID: <258501796.1055940601@LIBR429-07> So it's summer in Minnesota, which means that there are bugs everywhere and I don't have an internet connection where I live. Sadness. But I do work in the library at school, where at least there's air conditioning. It's almost too cold on the first floor. I'm wearing long pants. Last week I saw Yo La Tengo and a Minnesota Twins game. Being from Chicago, I'm not really much of a Twins fan since they beat my White Sox all the time. But I did get to strike another baseball stadium off my list, and they lost as well. It wasn't as much fun trying to be a hooligan at the baseball game, though. Maybe next month when I go to Cleveland to see the Celtic-AC Milan game I'll have more opportunities for that. I listened to Built to Spill last night for the first time in like a year or something. I knew I liked it before but I'd forgotten a lot of the songs, so it was like discovering them all over again. I should try that with more of my CDs but I'll probably just hate them or something. I'll be in Chicago for a couple of days at the beginning of August. There should be a picnic or a bowling trip or something that will promote solidarity. That's the only way we'll rise up against our bourgeois oppressors, after all. I was going to say more but now I need to go back to work. I think that's the first time this has happened - usually I have lots of time but nothing to say. Anyway. If your birthday is coming up or has recently happened, happy birthday! Also shouts out to Stine, who I'll e-mail at some point, and the #sinister crowd, who I'll likely not talk to again until September. These computers need IRC on them. to the archives!, -kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From popgoesart at xxx.de Wed Jun 18 22:14:28 2003 From: popgoesart at xxx.de (Andreas) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:14:28 +0200 Subject: Sinister: London, 19/06/2003 + Glasgow 21/06/2003 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030618231333.02688640@pop3.arcor.de> Hello folks, almost four years since yours truly addressed this forum and too much has happened in my life ever since, luckily enough first and foremost enjoyable things. "Time Is All I've Seen" (The Sea Urchins). Only thought to let people in or near London and Glasgow know about the following events this week by way of a summary announcement, the obligatory Belle And Sebastian content is, of course, included. "It's All In The Game" (Cliff Richard). §;^D Highly recommended for kindred spirits in or near London: How Does It Feel To Be Loved ? club Guest deejays: The Happy Couple (Hamburg) Thursday, June 19th 2003, 9 pm to 2 am, £ 3.00 Buffalo Bars, Underneath the Famous Cock Tavern, right outside Highbury & Islington tube station. For details see http://www.bowlie.com/forum/showthread.php?s=e61a6e5ac24873e789e8931f1d733c71&threadid=6136 Belle And Sebastian content: Tóm and Jane aka The Happy Couple ( http://www.happycouple.de ) will surely be playing a song or two by this P!O!P! combo as well as some of their numerous influences. Highly recommended for kindred spirits in or near Glasgow: THE 2.4 HOUR TECHNICOLOUR DREAM The Félicité Singles Club Launch Night Saturday, June 21st 2003, 8.30 pm sharp Nice'N'Sleazy, Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow The Félicité Singles Club proudly presents Roy Moller (Glasgow) Ulric & Friends (Glasgow) The Happy Couple (Hamburg) plus Peter Mortimer (poet) and special musical guests. Tickets merely £ 3.00 in advance and on the door. Appearing Live Roy Moller's début 7" single "Maximum Smile" b/w "David Niven" was recorded with some Glaswegian guest musicians late last year and co-produced by Stevie Jackson with whom Roy has occasionally collaborated on Belle And Sebastian songs. "Roy Walker" is also a member of local instrumental outfit The Wow Kafe. See http://www.felicite.de/cite03/cite03.html for sound clips and more. Ulric & Friends are fronted by Ulric Kennedy whose recordings with The Catalysts are something of a legend and an archivists dream. The songs on the self-titled 7" were recorded in 1985 and lay unreleased until The Happy Couple happily received a tape featuring this short-lived project from Ulric ( formerly singer of Whaam! Records artists The Mixers and later member of Sarah Records artists The Golden Dawn ). See http://www.felicite.de/cite04/cite04.html for sound clips and more. The Félicité Singles Club 7"'s are (will be) available (soon) from some of the finest mailorder services all over the globe, see http://www.felicite.de/distributors.html . They will, of course, also be available at the event outlined and promoted above. That was shameless promotion, I suppose, but not shameless self-promotion anyway. §;^D For details see http://www.bowlie.com/forum/showthread.php?s=e61a6e5ac24873e789e8931f1d733c71&threadid=6102 Belle And Sebastian content: Too obvious to be repeated. I wonder who the special musical guests could possibly include. §;^D See some of you around, hopefully, and apologies to those who are currently not anywhere near London or Glasgow. "Travel" (The Honeymoons). "Smashing Time" (The Television Personalities) Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From popgoesart at xxx.de Wed Jun 18 22:09:47 2003 From: popgoesart at xxx.de (Andreas) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:09:47 +0200 Subject: Sinister: London, 19/06/2003 + Glasgow 21/06/2003 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030618230716.026850e0@pop3.arcor.de> Hello folks, almost four years since yours truly addressed this forum and too much has happened in my life ever since, luckily enough first and foremost enjoyable things. "Time Is All I've Seen" (The Sea Urchins). Only thought to let people in or near London and Glasgow know about the following events this week by way of a summary announcement, the obligatory Belle And Sebastian content is, of course, included. "It's All In The Game" (Cliff Richard). §;^D Highly recommended for kindred spirits in or near London: How Does It Feel To Be Loved ? club Guest deejays: The Happy Couple (Hamburg) Thursday, June 19th 2003, 9 pm to 2 am, £ 3.00 Buffalo Bars, Underneath the Famous Cock Tavern, right outside Highbury & Islington tube station. For details see http://www.bowlie.com/forum/showthread.php?s=e61a6e5ac24873e789e8931f1d733c71&threadid=6136 Belle And Sebastian content: Tóm and Jane aka The Happy Couple ( http://www.happycouple.de ) will surely be playing a song or two by this P!O!P! combo as well as some of their numerous influences. Highly recommended for kindred spirits in or near Glasgow: THE 2.4 HOUR TECHNICOLOUR DREAM The Félicité Singles Club Launch Night Saturday, June 21st 2003, 8.30 pm sharp Nice'N'Sleazy, Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow The Félicité Singles Club proudly presents Roy Moller (Glasgow) Ulric & Friends (Glasgow) The Happy Couple (Hamburg) plus Peter Mortimer (poet) and special musical guests. Tickets merely £ 3.00 in advance and on the door. Appearing Live Roy Moller's début 7" single "Maximum Smile" b/w "David Niven" was recorded with some Glaswegian guest musicians late last year and co-produced by Stevie Jackson with whom Roy has occasionally collaborated on Belle And Sebastian songs. "Roy Walker" is also a member of local instrumental outfit The Wow Kafe. See http://www.felicite.de/cite03/cite03.html for sound clips and more. Ulric & Friends are fronted by Ulric Kennedy whose recordings with The Catalysts are something of a legend and an archivists dream. The songs on the self-titled 7" were recorded in 1985 and lay unreleased until The Happy Couple happily received a tape featuring this short-lived project from Ulric ( formerly singer of Whaam! Records artists The Mixers and later member of Sarah Records artists The Golden Dawn ). See http://www.felicite.de/cite04/cite04.html for sound clips and more. The Félicité Singles Club 7"'s are (will be) available (soon) from some of the finest mailorder services all over the globe, see http://www.felicite.de/distributors.html . They will, of course, also be available at the event outlined and promoted above. That was shameless promotion, I suppose, but not shameless self-promotion anyway. §;^D For details see http://www.bowlie.com/forum/showthread.php?s=e61a6e5ac24873e789e8931f1d733c71&threadid=6102 Belle And Sebastian content: Too obvious to be repeated. I wonder who the special musical guests could possibly include. §;^D See some of you around, hopefully, and apologies to those who are currently not anywhere near London or Glasgow. "Travel" (The Honeymoons). "Smashing Time" (The Television Personalities) Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Thu Jun 19 05:40:41 2003 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 04:40:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-go Message-ID: back in year five this was, our proper teacher was off sick or something so we had this supply teacher bloke - he came across as a bit odd right from the outset, had a grey suit and the name - mr oborsky! was most out of the ordinary. this was a catholic primary school man, we weren't used to much that was unusual - anyway back then none of us were really the type to question what was going on, nor to turn our noses up at anything that broke the 'copy this down from the board' routine (if there seems to be a break in the flow here it's because i just spilled my glass of coke over the table and i had to, er, break the flow of that (see i'm all for these nested puns), getting coke on my library copy of john savage's 'england's dreaming' book (which is very good incidentally) taking my tally of water damaged library books up to two (the other being a rather more battered copy of 'the beautiful and damned' - i'm feeling a bit more guilty about this one since i'm only the second person to have borrowed this copy, like, ever so i'm using the skeez brokered during my tenure as library staff and doing my utmost to fix it, i'll let you know how that goes (they should invent paper which doesn't crumple, you'd think with today's modern technology etc etc)). and mr oborsky was just the man to do that, i remember that instead of the usual maths or RE that we'd usually do he started to teach us about the staphylococcus aureus (ok, i had to google that for the spelling, fair enough) virus - which i think you learn about if you do a-level biology. it all seemed a bit odd, but the diagrams he drew on the blackboard (which even now remain probably the best and most interesting bits of blackboard art that i've ever seen) (didn't you used to hate the teachers who would go: "oh i can't draw"? i did) were great, little coloured blobs with hairs coming out the sides and big colourful borders. none of it made much sense to me, nor i presume to my classmates at the time, we were only nine or ten you know - even now i'm not sure quite what the virus is or does, though in the process of googling for the spelling i did encounter some quite fearsome pictures, so i can't imagine it's anything good. quite why mr oborsky chose to use the one day he had teaching our class to tell us about something so... obscure is beyond me. though thinking about it it must be great being a supply teacher right? staphylococcus aureus one day, perhaps proudhon the next, gamelan music for a friday, you could teach whatever you wanted, because by the time anyone came to review it you'd be long gone, off in a classroom on the other side of the city banging on about herman nitsch to a bunch of five year olds. brilliant. i've been scared of spiders ever since i was really small - in fact i can trace back the time to when i remember first being scared to spiders, it may in fact have been the occasion which instigated the whole fear in the first place. i was in the bathroom at home, having just washed my face i pick up a towel (i want you to imagine this all filmic, imagine you're there - in fact it could be some sort of kooky pop video man - imagine i'm singing this whole paragraph to you) to dry myself, quite naturally. there must've been a spider lurking on the towel, and with my face and hair all wet i must've just groped towards it without looking properly and dried myself and then when i pulled the towel from my face and looked in the mirror there was something sort of perched on my ear, a big black apparition. for what seems like some seconds but is probably less than one i do nothing i just look and then in one swift motion i brush the thing away, watch it fall awkwardly onto the tiled floor, and then sprawl out and make for some darker corner behind the toilet. there was no danger, i don't think we have poisonous spiders in england, but i still felt very deeply afraid. of what i'm not entirely sure - whether you could break it down into specifics i dunno. i don't really want to. but at the moment they seem to be finding their way out, i've seen three or four in the past couple of days. my brother is quite cruel with them, he crushes them in crisp packets and stuff, he's not afraid so i get him to deal with them usually - though i'm not sure i agree with his methods, but what can i say? he gets results. i was quite proud of myself when i found one on the curtain up in sheffield, only a titchy one mind, and i managed to scoop it up and knock it out of the window. i'm on my own up there man, against the odds. the other time i've dealt with one was at home, my brother must've been out and my mum and my sister were cleaning and they found one on the wall in my sisters bedroom - i haven't actually really ever told anyone that i'm scared of spiders, not in my immediate circle of family and friends anyway, but my mum and my sister share my fear, and aren't so bothered about being vocal about it (i've considered that that's where it comes from as well, but it's nicer to romanticize it in the incident described above), and so with my brother and my dad not around they asked me to deal with it. perhaps it was that responsibility, or the fear of looking weak overriding the fear of the spider that day, but i managed to bundle it into an empty crisp bag and out of the window with what i would describe as consummate ease. but those two times are the only ones i've ever gone near the things - only in the direst circumstances would i even consider it. so late that day in year five, i guess we couldn't have been learning about the staphylococcus aureus virus all day, but that's how it sticks out in my mind, so imagine mr oborsky in his grey suit and, i seem to recall, tinted glasses explaining the ins and outs of the virus to us bemused children. but there are always some kids who don't want to listen, no matter what the subject matter right? well one such kid in our class was called david, he had joined the class quite late, in year three i think, and wasn't very bright, so he was a bit of an outcast, though his mum and my mum used to get on pretty well - his dad even did the wrought iron gates on our drive here, i remember him saying to my dad how difficult it was to get them level when you're working on a hill. also, they had the spoiler nicked off their car once, which i found hilarious at the time, and the family has since migrated to ireland, only to come back to england within six months of going, and are still living here in birmingham as far as i know. anyway david was messing around with this massive rubber spider, you know the sort that you can buy in toy shops, that are a bit bigger your hand, one of those - there wasn't very long to go that day and i guess he was restless. we'd been playing with the spider at playtime, chucking it around and all, i can handle the toy ones, i don't mind them (at my secondary school there was a guy who was even more afraid of them than i am, he couldn't even abide the toy ones, much to the amusement of various people, but i deeply empathized, as i'm sure you all do reading this now). he had this massive rubber spider out on his desk i suppose, and mr oborsky spotted it, and he asked david to give it to him. there wasn't really much david could do, so he handed it over, and mr oborsky started scrutinizing it, turning it over as he walked back up to the front of the class. once there he held the thing out towards all of us, shaking it as though it were a cane or some sort of weapon, "you know there are spiders in some parts of the world that are as big as this?" he looked at it again, "bigger maybe. when i was about your age i was living with my family in kenya, there are insects there which are much more dangerous than anything you get over here..." he said, and he proceeded to tell us all about how whenever you were putting a pair of socks on, or any clothes really, you had to turn them inside out and check them thoroughly before you put them on in case there was anything dangerous lurking inside. and he told us how once he had forgotten to check a pair of gardening gloves, and some ingeniously designed insect had burrowed into his skin, and its spines were so arranged that it couldn't be pulled or coaxed out - and how his uncle had had to burn the thing out with a lighter. he showed us the scar on his hand, a big pink mark on his waxy skin, in the fleshy part between his thumb and forefinger. "then one day i was reading alone in my room" he said "it was the height of summer, so very very hot and i had gone inside to get some shade. i happened to glance up from my book and saw this gigantic spider sitting on the wall of my room" at this point he held the rubber spider up against the classroom wall, so we could imagine what it must've been like and described how the spider he saw was different from the rubber one, its markings and so forth. "i was petrified" he continued "but i quickly ran out to fetch my dad and my uncle, who were working in the garden" he then went on to explain that they told him that the spider was some very rare and poisonous breed, which i have now unfortunately forgotten the name of. the three of them went back into the room, i think he said his dad had gone and gotten some sort of net, in the hope of trapping the thing, but when they got back into mr oborsky's room the spider was gone, without trace. they searched the whole house, because you don't want an extremely dangerous thing like that knocking around when there are children around, but they couldn't find it. he went back to david's desk and plopped the rubber spider down in front of him, "and i've never ever seen one since" he said, "not even in a zoo." at that point the bell rang and he let us go, which i remember thinking was odd because we hadn't said our prayers. yours, - kieran _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Thu Jun 19 10:44:27 2003 From: lulou at xxx.org (Linda Kerr) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:44:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian News Mailing List - U.S.A. shows (fwd) Message-ID: Hi all Although you heard it here first from the estimable Lucy, below is the mail from the b&s news list. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:06:19 -0000 From: band at xxx.net To: lulou at crockery.org Subject: Belle and Sebastian News Mailing List - U.S.A. shows Hi all, Well, as Stuart announced in his June 14th Diary entry, we're pleased to confirm the following three outdoor shows in Brooklyn, Berkeley and Los Angeles in August. *August 19th, Prospect Park Bandshell, Brooklyn, NY. Tickets cost $35.00 each, subject to booking fees. *August 22nd, Greek Theatre on UC Berkeley Campus, Berkeley, CA. Tickets cost $32.50 each, subject to booking fees. *August 24th, Greek Theatre, Los Angeles, CA. Tickets cost $32.50 each, subject to booking fees. As of tomorrow, June 19th 2003 at 10am EST (NY Time), you can buy tickets to these shows through this webpage: http://www.belleandsebastian.musictoday.com You'll need to log in with this information: User Name: belleandsebastian Password: tickets Unfortunately there are only a limited number of tickets available from Music Today for these shows, but we felt that it was better that some people had the opportunity to purchase tickets, without having to pay the high booking fees. Regular sales for all three shows begin via http://www.ticketmaster.com on the following days: Friday June 20th at 10am EST for the Brooklyn show, Saturday June 21st at 10am Pacific time for the Berkeley and Los Angeles shows. At that time, tickets will also be available in person via some record stores & venue box offices ... details to follow shortly. Stuart is planning Treasure Hunts to co-incide with all three concerts, for more information check out his June 14th Diary entry in the "Writing" section of the website at http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home Happy ticket purchasing! cheers, Katrina @ Banchory. http://www.banchory.net http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit www.banchoryshop.net/belleandsebastian/list/list.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcbots at xxx.nl Thu Jun 19 11:28:42 2003 From: marcbots at xxx.nl (marc bots) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:28:42 +0200 Subject: Sinister: barcelona and haldern Message-ID: dear sinister, it has been quite some time since you heard of me. i am, however, still alive and doing okay at times. my band is getting better and we will be famous soon, and i made a minidisc with all b&s lp's and ep's except for storytelling, which means over five hours of wonderful songs to be played at random. it is interesting to notice that some songs are not as cool when played out of context. i have a few questions for you. actually two: 1) is anyone going to the haldern festival this year? i know b&s are not playing this time, but a few cool other bands are. like bright eyes. and the raveonettes. and the libertines. and spinvis. 2) i will be travelling to barcelona for a conference and a few days of holiday. could someone please help me out with finding cool bars, pubs, places to go and especially places to see some cool bands? that would be excellent. did you all notice that stuart is comparing the new album with tigermilk? that will generate lots of expectations. it does for me. lunchtime! love, marc -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Thu Jun 19 11:50:33 2003 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 03:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I Was Just Hoping You Might Stay Message-ID: <20030619105033.7771.qmail@web40414.mail.yahoo.com> Every day is a leaving party of the heart. Who remembers the Suncharms, the Badgers, Basinger and Pushkins? Songs that tell me over again of the old world: of the rehearsal rooms with nineteenth-century amps and scruffy attempts at insulation: of the autumn leaves and half-empty car parks that you look at across the green while the bass player makes his move to B and A under your circling notes. Corny, genre equivalent of a 12-bar blues (listen to the bid for epic in Pushkins� �Sea Egg�), but I don�t hear it much anymore, I can forgive: it probably seemed a one-off in a million at the time. The skies above in their permutations: on heatwave days plain blue, plus massed impressive clouds: at 5 yesterday morning, woken by the memory of the drinking, a zesty high expanse of wisps and trails, weather portraits of old June, always new. Above me now the cobalt background behind the insistent cloud cover. The other night the blast of warm early evening rain like a gigantic shower had been turned on: desperate travellers pushing past into the train, water bullets between the porches, the catharsis after too many blinding sunny days to believe. The sky at night, deep blue straight above at one in the morning; the horizon as it comes down, still dimly lit at ten like a tasteful restaurant, subtly darker blues, white clouds turning pink at the foot of the airy page. �In thinking of nature as harmonizing, in the diversity of its particular laws, with our need to find universal principles for them, we must, as far as our insight goes, judge this harmony as contingent, yet also indispensable for the needs of our understanding � hence as a purposiveness by which nature harmonizes with our aim, though only insofar as this is directed to cognition�. He leans on his bike at one end of a bridge in October, in the cathedral�s long shadow as the cars whiz past below us, talking about getting a band together. Sillitoe world of bicycles and locks: Golden Grahams, Stradhoughton prose in the bus stop�s midnight blue early morning. Lager and Lime Top every night: meek tenacity in the throng at the bar. Up and down the row of faces in the light and darkness, youth that doesn�t know its own youth. The same scanty books of poetry in crumbling houses up and down the land�s undulation. Every day is Valentine�s Day. She wears purple lipstick at the bus stop. The Henriads. - S�blood, I am as melancholy as a gib cat or a lugged bear. - Or an old lion, or a lover�s lute. - Yea, or the drone of a Lincolnshire bagpipe. The raindrops falling on the glass roof over summer's watery coffee. People I never know as well as I would like, unaware that they don�t know what resignation is. Snow suddenly coats the avenues from one broad side to another, tops the crimson post box on the corner of the silent street. People fade and I forget you. (The ginger leaves falling around the streets of Massachussetts, the yellow and black school bus, the Californian summer sky under which a car blinks out of memory.) I have already forgotten too much. (A sneaked video moment of last night�s match, Platini scoring in the European Championship Final, before I must scurry, hardly understanding what it all means, up the road to school.) But I have remembered more than you might think. (Grey streets of Guildford as the Berlin Wall comes down: at the top of a slope a busker singing Sting outside the Our Price.) I have forgotten you. But I haven�t forgotten YOU. I suppose (the orange street lights on the way from the Fruiterers�, the heave of the midnight traffic under overpasses, down thoroughfares) that it�s goodbye (the sun blazing off a vast green pitch, hundreds of miles away, as for two hours France in bright blue play Brazil in canary yellow, on a screen in the dark middle of a party) to the old ways. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com Thu Jun 19 13:18:47 2003 From: paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com (Paulo Stinsoni) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:18:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Not so Hasty now Message-ID: Oh hello there, Hope everything is groovin' like my bum grooves to "Dirty Dream". I really do. I thought I'd compile a list of 20 things that do absolutely nothing for me, but after 1 I couldn't be bothered. 1) er... boring stuff So instead I'll tell you all about Hastings. I know, in comparison to chopping up my chopper, it's a bit boring, but I'm sure it's going to be just as painful. You see, I am VISITING THE INLAWS (to be). I've put it off for a long time, mainly because it's just so far away from me, in Darlington. The lovely Theresa Lovely (if you split that up a bit and stick an apostrophe in the right place you get "There's a lovely") wants me to go there as we're getting married and i should meet her ma. I don't like girlfriends parents. I have an ex girlfriend (oh yes, I'm not just popular now, I've been popular for ages) and she (Debi) was pregnant. Debi had to go to hospital overnight for some tests as she was getting pains. Unfortunately her mother turned up while I was the only one in the house. Debi was due back, but we didn't know when. Well, I offered a cup of tea or coffee, and she declined. We sat opposite the coffee table to each other. Saying nothing. Silence. . . . Silence. . . Total quiet. I could hear her breathing. . . . In the end I was going crazy. I needed to say something, and all I could think of doing was playing a game of cards/draughts/chess, or something. I thought it through. If I offered a game, would she think I was mad? I mulled it over, and you know that theory that if youy repeat things 3 times they become true, well that's what my brain was doing during the painful silence "Would you like to play a game?" I said. As soon as I openend my mouth I knew it sounded wierd. She said no, looked shocked and shortly after she left. So it wasn't all bad. / Let's get back to Hastings... So, when I'm not toying with the edge of the table cloth, and beads of nervous sweat are not forming on my brow, and I'm not wracking my brains to think of something to say other than "That Harold chap had it bad down here in 1066 didn't he?" I think I'll go out. Anyone know of any places in Hastings to go? Just think, you could have skipped the whole damned email until you got to that sentence. Ah well, Let's hope you all have a lovely Midsummers day, and party all night and watch the sunrise with someone you love. Paul _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hehitsnoozetwice at xxx.com Thu Jun 19 14:47:26 2003 From: hehitsnoozetwice at xxx.com (Jesse Chanin) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:47:26 -0400 Subject: Sinister: what do you want to do when you grow up?? Message-ID: I was looking for a job & then I found a job & heaven knows I�m miserable now. Dear Sinister, I have as of two days ago officially found a summer job � forty hours a week putting textbooks into cardboard boxes to be shipped across the country, with the possibility of moving up to the sealing-with-cellophane-tape department if I work out OK. It�s hardly my ideal employment but I have convinced myself, typically patronizing toward the rest of humanity, that there are people who do this sort of work (starting at 7am of course) for their entire lives, people for whom packing paperback books isn�t just a way to afford more Johnny Cash CDs. So by doing this for one summer, assuming I last the summer (the guy who hired me did say there was a prerequisite of being able to lift 40lbs and I�ve no idea how much that is so I just said Yes, Of Course I Can!), will allow me to properly empathize with people for whom this is a reality. & I owe them that much, being born into the American middle class. But then who�s to say I�m not one of those people? All my life people have drilled into me that I can do whatever I�d like, fly to the stars, jump the moon, conquer galaxies etc etc and I even think some of them said so in earnest too! & to some extent I believe them, despite all evidence to the contrary and my own indecision. I can do whatever I want, but I�m not quite sure what that is; I will be 32 and still putting textbooks into boxes thinking, �I want to be a writer! I want to be a radio producer! I want to be an artist! I want to be a rockstar!� And I don�t know if I�d hate working in a concrete shipping warehouse more than a sterile cubicle. But I don�t really believe that could happen to me. Other people work in cubicles, other people aim for uppermanagement and watch soap operas and buy SUVs. I will do something miraculous. It just hasn�t happened yet (note the passive tone). It hasn�t happened to me yet. I know vaguely what I want to do, but instead I spend my days surfing around on internet sites & playing frisbee with the hippies over in the park across the street, waiting for inspiration and talent and motivation to happen to me. It�s the worst sort of inexcusable idleness, I think. And I am starting college in the fall for which I�ve got to assume $2500 in debt each year, not my first choice college, or second or third, but my last safety school that at the time of applications I was too disdainful of to read up on and realize is strongly Jesuit. I did a foreign exchange year in Spain & had a miserable time. I lost my job last summer after nine days. I�ve done nothing but dwell on my own wonderful potential and now I head off to college to study some indeterminate subject to launch some unspecified career that isn�t what I want anyway. I want to be a rockstar, or a writer. It�s typical isn�t it? But usually people have fleeting ideas of satisfactory back-up plans: photo-journalist, veterinarian, cop � or even something specific you can work toward, like this fellow I know named John who is going to Astronaut university. When people ask me where I�m going to school I mumble New York and when they ask me what I�m going to study I slur englishistoryphilosophyliteraturepoliticalscience YOU know. For the sake of optimism we�ll call that �flexibility in my future plans� which isn�t untrue, per se. And as far as optimism goes, this e-mail seems to be veering in the opposite direction which is in all truth a misrepresentation. I�m not unhappy, just restless, and boxing books should be just fine if the friendly pear-shaped man who gave me the job agrees that I will be listening to headphones very loudly the entire time. There�s no fancy moral at the end of this where I realize I will be perfectly happy as a CEO as long as I have beautiful children & live in a mansion outside of Hartford. But what do you want to do when you grow up, Sinister? There�s a comedian I recall (it could have been Paula Poundstone who, for the record, makes child abuse much funnier than Michael Jackson could ever dream of) who said � and I paraphrase � �When adults ask kids what they want to do when they grow up it�s �cause they�re looking for ideas.� Cue the uproarious 80�s laughter. But I did just finish a whole e-mail so my task-management has reached an all-week high. Thank you, thank you. Jesse _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From competitionsmile at xxx.com Thu Jun 19 15:44:00 2003 From: competitionsmile at xxx.com (Christine Irene) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 07:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: rock the casbah Message-ID: <20030619144400.72525.qmail@web40614.mail.yahoo.com> hi everyone. so i have been reading about lovely gwb's telling iran to disarm or what have you....should we start a pool? how long til we are bombing iran? i say....9 weeks. grr. it's too bad that only scumbags run for office...perhaps stuart murdoch could be the first non-citizen president of the united states? aww :o) the national anthem could be changed to "we rule the school." yay! plus, we would have the bonus of listening to a scottish accent deliver all of those boring addresses. it would take some constitutional amending but hey....... if you aren't privy of this as of now, might i recommend checking out www.gotcannedgoods.com very cool stuff on there. i used to visit it daily...then i forgot about it when i crashed my computer. you can post "alternative" news stories (ya know, the true ones) and random poetry and prose. very cool stuff indeed. yay! so anyway, not much of note here lately. yesterday we cracked ninety degrees for the first time this year.....and now it is 59 degrees again. i hate it here. we have some really obnoxious weather patterns. oh yes, if any of you have livejournal accounts, please feel free to send me a password thing, so that i might start one to. as you may recall, i am very anti-blog, however, i just have got to reply to this one persons posts. he is the most self-rightous, arrogant and obnoxious human being ever! you can only reply to posts if you have an account though. i refuse to pay for a livejournal account...you can get one for free if a member sends you a password thing... so what else? nothing really. i hope that this finds you well. shouts out to my sinistah posse: dirty vicar, jinnifer, mr. and mrs. fruitloop-apps, alex, jay with an e, and i guess chris (whom i haven't spoken to in what....3 months? bastard! :O) um...yes....and the rest of you as well. have a toadie day. ~stine __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Thu Jun 19 19:11:22 2003 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 19:11:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Electronic Reminiscent Message-ID: Dear sinister, Seeing some old names appearing in the "Sinister" folder of my in-box has made me feel a little nostalgic, indeed I do have regular patches of listalgia. I often wonder whether the old sinister kids (are they now sinister adults?) have just disappeared altogether or if they've just become less outspoken and rageful with age. And the other day I was looking through the inbox of a very old email account, and there was an email from someone I knew from a long time ago with whom I have lost contact, so I sent an email but unfortunately the hotmail account had since been closed down. Which made me sad of the frailty sometimes of this e-mailing business, how easily one can lose touch with another, but then I suppose it's no different from in real life, or rather "real life", in this technological age maybe the internet is becoming less virtual a reality than what they tell you in films, which is very much an escape from reality in itself. I do hope one day email accounts will never be closed down. Especially sinister at missprint.org cos it's rather good, I wonder if i'll still post here when I'm 82. Ken P.S.: My work is very dull P.S.2.: I got a PS2 the other day! And it arrived on my birthday! It was the greatest thing ever. P.S.3.: Now that Stuart Murdoch is planning to organise a treasure hunt in America, I wonder if th...... ********************************************************************** This email is confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If this email was not intended for you please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator at uclh.org. This footnote confirms that the email and attachments contained no viruses when they left UCLH. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From michael at xxx.org Thu Jun 19 16:51:53 2003 From: michael at xxx.org (Michael Vance) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 08:51:53 -0700 Subject: Sinister: I know that things have got to CHU, but what KEN I do? In-Reply-To: <20030617182952.81805.qmail@web9302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 11:29 AM, Rachel fruitloop-Apps wrote: > In closing, I'd like to say that sometime soon, Adrian would like to > have a SINISTER GO-KART RACE!!!!! Anyone interested? Southern > Californians stay tuned for more details as they develop(and feel > free to make suggestions!) Hm, this sounds fascinating. Continuing the celebrity sightings mentioned earlier, my fiancee ran into, can you believe it, Alphonso Ribiero of critically acclaimed Fresh Prince of Bel Air (swoon), when she was racing at Universal City Walk. The mind doth reel. We're actually going to see a Dodgers game when we get back from scenic Pittsburgh (all my friends are getting married, too). I haven't been to a ball game in years, back when I lived in the Philadelphia area and my father when only go when he could get box seats and under-the-stadium parking. That man doesn't like traffic. I haven't seen a Galaxy game in a few years, either. Have they moved to the Carson statdium? I remember the huge ads for canned refried beans stretched out across the empty Rose Bowl seats. > Shout-outs to STINE, GRAINNE, JIM PURPLE TROUSERS, BUS STOPPER SARA, > JOSE, MICHAEL VANCE and ALL THE RACHELS! Until next time... I'd like to think all the little people, especially the Irish ones with pots of gold. Judith and I were going to see Andrew Bird on Sunday at the Derby and just didn't have the energy to make it. Being 26 now, I am an old geezer, and, although a ladies age is unmentionable, suffice to say Judith was not exactly perky either. Did anyone go? He also did an in-store on Tuesday but work called. He's so flakey now with Evil Nora... And now B&S is going to tour again. Prediction on angry flare-ups from the management about where they're going and when? That was an amusing thread oh so many months ago. What did my fiancee get me for my birthday? A copy of the OED. Oh yes.... m. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bulkdavid at xxx.com Thu Jun 19 07:47:48 2003 From: bulkdavid at xxx.com (David Hewitt) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:17:48 +0930 Subject: Sinister: third's the one with the hairy chest Message-ID: G'day Sinister. NEW MUSIC Is mostly terrible, obviously. But then again, most music, at most times, has been mostly terrible. There's nothing new or strange about that. I think my problem is that it's getting harder for me to find that little bit that's not terrible. The harder it gets, the less I look. The less I look, the less I find. The less I find, the more terrible it all seems. The more terrible it all seems, the less I can be bothered looking, and so on. And it now seems that I've crossed some sort of event horizon, where the amount of 'unspeakably awful' in the new music I'm exposed to has reached critical mass, and the effort and unpleasantness involved in finding the new good music now outweighs the benefits to be reaped from finding it. Or I could just be old, cranky and stuck in my ways. It's easier to go back rather than forwards, after all. Still, I'm beginning to understand how most people's record collections get sort of frozen at some point in time, where the well-intentioned newer purchases never seem to quite sit comfortably alongside their more worn-in and well-loved older shelf-mates. I used to ridicule my parents for their (at the time) hysterically out-of-touch record collections, but it looks like the joke will be on me, when at fifty, I'll still be listening to The Queen Is Dead and possibly even warbling tunelessly along. A terrifying vision of the future, if ever there was one. What sort of sense is that going to make to my potential offspring? Precious little, I'd imagine. When I was buying new records every week, and loving them, I swore: "it'll never happen to me". But then again, we all swear that about all sorts of things, I suppose. The tricky thing about pop music is also the same thing that makes it great, though - the fact that it sticks to things. Times, places, people, events. You know. Things. And the sorts of things that are responsible for forming me - making me who and what I am, if you like - have mostly already happened, and therefore already have soundtracks attached to them. A lot of the really important ones happened before I left school, and are accompanied by all sorts of ridiculous music, the recorded versions of which I should probably hide in the study. But I don't, because I'm married now, so I don't need to impress girls any more. Besides, there's nothing wrong with Hall and Oates anyway. So let's say a really good album comes out now. One every bit as good as my own current, personal, all-time top ten, for example. Unlikely. Then I somehow become aware of such an album and purchase it. Less likely still. But let's say that I do. What chance does it have, really? What's it going to attach itself to? I'm hopeful that I still have great, exciting and new things ahead of me, but they're not realistically going to shape me in the same way as things did when I was 15, are they? Nope. Plus, I'm less likely to have headphones on when things do happen, these days. So really, it's not music's fault. It's probably a little bit mine. But mostly, I think there's a point where you know you've already heard the best song you'll ever hear. It's not going to get written when you're 45, or probably even 25. Not because songs are getting worse, or because your taste is any less discerning. It's just that truly great pop music is always about a heck of a lot more than you can actually contain within a pop song. That's why it's important and special. Having said that, I recently listened to the new Blur, the new Radiohead and the new Dandy Warhols, and I thought they were all varying shades of shit. GETTING MARRIED Yeah, I did that. Thanks for your song suggestions, by the way. We ended up settling for The State I Am In, for several reasons: 1. It kicks arse. 2. It's as close as I can imagine to the definitive B&S song, and (in a roundabout sort of way, via Sinister) they're the reason we met. 3. It features the line "got married in a rush, to save the kid from being deported", which is fairly fitting. 4. Julie wouldn't let me play Maneater by Hall & Oates. The only problem was that they let the CD play, and by the time we were actually signing the certificate, and the room was quiet enough to really hear the words properly, it was playing She's Losing It. Still, it could have been worse. Later on, it was. My mother got drunk, and for reasons best known to herself, started singing Queen's We Are The Champions at the reception, in full voice. Bless her cotton socks. Oh, and there has, unbeknownst to me until just now, been some sort of effort made to get some photos of the wedding displayed on a website. I'll show you the link when it's ready. You can thank Jay (one of the kindest and indeed most handsome of all listees) when the time comes, as I understand it's his doing. Married life is much the same as it was before, with a nice new ring, and a bigger telly. So on the whole, I can't complain. Plus, now Julie's going to have a harder time getting away from me when she finally comes to her senses. POETRY Thanks to Lucy for her poem. It put a smile on my face when I got to work. Jolly clever. FOLKS There's nowt as funny as 'em. Or at least that's what my dear old Grandfather used to say. He was a wise man. People posting lists of things they think are great just reminds me of how diverse a bunch we really are. For example: I think most of what you like is completely shit. It's a good thing that we can all get along despite our differences, eh? Incidentally, I don't suppose you want to hear about the cup of tea I just had, or what happened at work this morning, do you? Thought not. Just as well, really, because it was extremely boring indeed. Forget that I even mentioned it. YOU LOT I really miss some of you. You know who you are. Seppos, mostly. In fact, let me finish this project at work, pay off my last couple of trips, and generally pull my head out of my arse, and I'll come and see you again. Now I've landed an American wife, I can probably wangle a green card as well, and stay for a bit longer this time. That's by no means intended to exclude the extraordinarily kind representatives of the UK massive, with whom I've had the pleasure of spending a criminally insufficient amount of time - I'll come and visit you (hopefully under much more pleasant circumstances than the last time) on the same ticket, though possibly not until the return leg of the trip. A round the world ticket is actually cheaper from here than an East coast US return. I won't be able to buy any sort of ticket for a while, though. I've got a lot of work to do, particularly if I keep writing long emails like this instead of actually doing it. Bloody Sinister. Still, the satisfying size and bulk of this email should help cover up any lack of actual quality or content therein. Just because I don't spend as much time online as I once did, doesn't mean I don't still love your guts. 'Cause I do. Bulk love, -Vanilla Flavoured David. _________________________________________________________________ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ferrisfubar at xxx.com Thu Jun 19 20:18:52 2003 From: ferrisfubar at xxx.com (homemade strawberry alice) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: lipping boredom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030619191852.50757.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> i'm wading knee deep in stagnancy help me, eh? ===== seasons rise and set(bitter switching sweet) flashing brightly colored changes while out our searching eyes meet switching looks and lives and ages __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angelas1980 at xxx.com Thu Jun 19 20:26:30 2003 From: angelas1980 at xxx.com (angela smith) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:26:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Brooklyn meet-ups? Message-ID: I'm going to the Prospect Park show, which is also on my *birthday*, so it's only fair to celebrate. I'm coming from out of town, so is anyone locally planning anything? angela _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From benapps at xxx.com Thu Jun 19 20:00:29 2003 From: benapps at xxx.com (Ben Apps) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:00:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: never mind Beckham, let's talk about.... Message-ID: GIGGS! or, rather, Gigs! Woo hoo! Say yay of you're going to the Prospect Park Bandshell, say yay of you're going to the Greek Theatre on UC Berkeley Campus (YAY), say yay if you're going to the Greek Theatre in Griffith Park LA (YAY), say yay if it's all greek to you! :-) And....new album is *almost* finished and features the sound of dropping coins onto a plate and smashinh bottles (RAWK!). I wonder if it'll be ready in time to sell at the Gigs, probably not, oh well, but soon after(fingers crossed). Exciting times! And with that, I am content! (psst, geddit...content!?) bapps _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmhyde at xxx.edu Thu Jun 19 18:11:21 2003 From: kmhyde at xxx.edu (Kevin Hyde) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:11:21 -0400 Subject: Sinister: quick and dirty proof of inductive fun Message-ID: <004801c33685$ce2be7c0$ac72ef80@DEVELOPMENT> Hello everyone, There exists a small but elite group of Australian businessmen in my hometown. They all work in one store, a pawnshop, called Cash Converters. I find this odd simply by merit of the fact that my hometown is in Pennsylvania, in America- and is a very small town, a former steel industry center, now sort of brownly decrepit and sprawling. And I wonder why it is that these people (all unrelated, I might add) would come all the way from Australia to (presumably) live and work in a small suburb of Philadelphia, in an unglamorous (albeit very successful) store which, besides having a name that to my mind suggests money laundering, is located in perhaps one of the worst parts of the entire county. The only hypothesis that springs to mind is that, somehow, through complex and arcane networks, the mayor of my town has forged a kind of draconian marketing contract with various travel agents and career counselors in the metropoli of Australia, where enthusiastic and (again, this is me speculating) towheaded antipodean youngsters are suckered into selling all their fantastic Dirty Three albums and bootlegs in order to buy a plane ticket to the exciting and impossibly-bustling-and-cultured Pottstown, PA. My God, this confused me. I'm not exaggerating when I say I thought about this deeply for the five or so hours it took me to drive home to Virginia on I-95. Could it be that my confusion was just sublimated anger at having one of the sales clerks ask me, upon the purchase of a cheap electric guitar and practice amp at said store, whether this [the guitar] was for me "as a rock and roll star, or is it a gift, mate?", (and I promise, he actually did say 'mate' I'm not making that up) to which I responded by nodding my head and saying, in a sort of shy and lamentful way, "uh, rock and roll style?", having heard the 'star' as 'style' and now consequently feeling slightly embarrassed in front of the witchily pretty female sales clerk. I know there are some Australian sinisterines + -ettes on the list, and I was wondering if, hey, are there any large and unwieldy roadside billboards over there with pictures of Pennsylvanian landscapes, mottled with fall colors, and featuring some sort of sentimental and catchy slogan in a sensible font? Maybe even vaguely authoritarian in tone? Ok. So there is (at least) another Kevin on this list (hello other Kevin!), and I think I need to confront this fact head-on. In my opinion, it's really a good thing, you know, because, heck, our name means 'gentle and lovable' (uh, in Gaelic, if I remember my grandmother's tiny namecards correctly), and with all the sort of rippling hostility and thinly veiled sexual threats that are always flying about on this list, people of a kevin-nature are here to serve as a buffer (feel free to hurl invective at either of us, and like egg-carton insulation foam, we will absorb and dampen). Plus probably all the Rachels too, 'we can never have enough Rachels' = story of my life. So, that's enough meta-list talk I suppose. I really wish I could write long and consistently-themed missives (a la Kieran and the PF), but really, my attention span is far too short for that. And plus I'm at work. Which place is populated mostly by diminutive secretaries whose faces look as if they would explode into thousands of tiny green mosquitoes if given the proper stimulus. I'm looking forward to: the fourth of July, which for me is one of the saddest holidays; going to see the Giddy Motors next month; applying to grad school, and getting engaged so that I can have a fiancee to give me the OED as a present like the inestimably lucky Michael Vance. Oh, and any sort of post from Laura Llew would be great, as they (the posts) always rock my socks off. Seriously. Hosiery --> obliterated. off to lunch, xo, Kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From retrosec at xxx.uk Thu Jun 19 23:56:38 2003 From: retrosec at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Retro^Sec?=) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:56:38 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Its all out there! Message-ID: <20030619225638.57608.qmail@web13114.mail.yahoo.com> Two weeks today, and I'm off. Off on a holiday, for the first time in *counts on fingers* six years. Off to France, y'see, with the family. And the boyfriend. I'd asked, back in December, that if my parents were heading back to Norway, could I go too. I'd been starting to feel something again, it might have been indigestion, but something that made me yearn for five days solid of sitting in a car, or throwing up in vacuum toilets on ferries, to get to the most isolated little village in Europe. It was as if there was some sort of homing device that had been triggered in my brain, and I needed to go back. I needed to spend time there. But no. My parents announced they were going to France. Did I still want to go? Did I really need to think about passing over the chance of a free holiday not done on the cheap? My one concern is it will be sunny. And hot. And with my Nordic blood very much against the idea of heat and sun, I'm starting to wonder how I will cope. How can a girl be acused of being all gothic if she is wearing a sarong and a sun hat? Oh well. I am looking forward to the sunny bits where it is a bit cooler and I'm not melting entirely. Sort of first thing in the morning and last thing in the evening. ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * * It strikes me (with a big old ugly stick) that B&S aren't doing that sitting-round-on-their-arses thing they did for a while, a few years ago. Maybe that was just me, but there was a spell, I'm surely not mistaken, in 2000, when they didn't seem to be doing anything. A whole year passed without a gig or a record. I remember threatening to turn Travis. And now we are blessed, with lots of little gigs in different places for different reasons, and we've even had records, on an almost regular basis. I don't want to speculate on what got them to get their arses into gear, but I'm thinking it was my threat. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * The upshot of this, of course, is that people are right back into discussing things again. Stuff like what Marc Bots said, about the second coming of Tigermilk. Oh, I wish. But I doubt it. *goes into Simpsons comicstore owner mode* Best Belle and Sebastian album, ever. */end dodgy impression* Tigermilk was fantastic. But I think it'd be unrealistic for them to do Tigermilk 2. We'd just (I would) complain it was just a rehash of old stuff, and not groundbreaking. Certainly though, something as refreshing as Tigermilk would be ace. But maybe they know their stuff far too well now for that to happen, the naiviety and innocence has been swept aide for lots of expensive little flashy lights and twiddly knobs that cost thousands to press. And theres people like Lucy, who I have forgiven for ruining my moment of glory by pointing out my car shares the same name as squashed-trout-face Jamie Olivers baby. She has been posting news, before even Aunt Linda could say "B&S", in a cloud of dust, not unlike Mr William Windsor in his Golf GTI on country estates. And there are those who are planning their trips to go to America t see the gigs, being greedy and stealing tickets away from the locals with their credit cards while America, America, sleeps in a different time zone as the news is posted up onto the website. (I am teasing.) Anyway. Thanks to my little contigent of people who popped along and met me on Monday night. You know who you are, but I had a lovely time, and I invite you to Scotland and to stay anytime you like, as long as its not at my house. ta-ra idles xxx ===== http://retrosec.blogspot.com/ thoughts ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayeckard at xxx.com Fri Jun 20 02:02:30 2003 From: jayeckard at xxx.com (Jay Eckard) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 01:02:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Goin' North Message-ID: Okay folks. Concert. August. New York. Fo' sure I'm going. But plans need to be made. Anyone planning to travel up and don't want to travel alone, let me know. My car is solid and dependable (and with good gas mileage) even if my drivin' ain't. As for me, well, I'm flighy and and with limited attention spans, but highly amusing and come with a supply of excellent mixes. Yours, Gay Jay (le Murph) -- "The Posby falls into a Trance In which it does a little Dance." Edward Gorey _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Fri Jun 20 17:07:55 2003 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_[Steady-State]?=) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:07:55 +0200 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hiding_in_Hyde_Park?= Message-ID: Hello my dear sinister I´m leaving for the Unites States tomorrow. It is just a short staying of about of eve less then a week, but still quite exciting. I haven´t realized how this would have been great since I´ve come to the actual day I am leaving. And I haven´t packed yet. That´s not wise. At all. *Owner of a broken hard-disk* much better the owner of a lonely heart. Sorry this was silly, but definitely definitely. My computer is going burst like a Sunday road. Yummy. This actually means I´ve lost at least the last three months of work. Will they ask for the money back since I can produce no evidence I have actually did some job during all this time. By the way, did I? Mhmhm *HYDE PARK * Since I won´t be around for a bout a week, this should be the last chance I have to launch a call for a picnic. This is for the 28th of June. Outside hyde park corner tube station at 2ish! I try to confuse you (I won´t admit my spelling rather poor even if it is quiet apparent) but mr Carsmile gave you the right answer already: well done!! It´s one of my best mate´s birthday and he is on the list as well, so come and bring some cakes! Again: yummy. Hide Park is a lovely location and rumours shave been heard about a naval battle on the Serpentine* that day. Hope to see many of you ,soon, and newcomers!!! Your are more then welcome!!! Love and all the best Stefano ~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~# in the time of the winter the waiter fell into the snow he could hear a voice but will he ever find his way if I'm so far from your heart why do I feel it beat and time won't wait for us ~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Fri Jun 20 21:52:08 2003 From: lulou at xxx.org (Linda Kerr) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:52:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian News Mailing List - Roy Moller single launch & more NY ticket details (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:02:23 -0000 From: band at xxx.net To: lulou at crockery.org Subject: Belle and Sebastian News Mailing List - Roy Moller single launch & more NY ticket details Hi all, As most of the tickets have already sold out from the Music Today site, we've just found out that a limited number of tickets will on sale in person only for the Brooklyn show from OTHER MUSIC (15 E. 4th St. NYC 10003 Tel: 212-477-8150), starting at 12 noon on Sat. June 21st. They'll be cash sales only and each ticket will be $36 which includes all booking fees. We've got a new item in the online shop too, a 7" by Stevie's mate Roy Moller and we're selling these on behalf of Félicité. Here's what Tom who runs the label has to say about the record: "For every one who wondered who "Roy Walker" (a new Belle & Sebastian track) is, this is the answer: It's Roy Moller! He recorded his stunning debut single for the German label Félicité and produced it together with Stevie Jackson, who plays - like on "Legal Man" - the Sitar. They were supported by an Glasgow all star band of Bob Kildea, Gary Thom, Bill Wright and Brian McNeil. Tracks are "Maximum Smile" and "David Niven" . It's on white, heavy vinyl and it's very limited (only 700 copies worldwide). please feel free to visit Roy's lovely page http://www.roymoller.com/maximum_moller/ and the Félicité website http://www.felicite.de, where you can find more information on Roy." The launch party for the single is TOMORROW on Saturday, 21st June 8.30pm at Nice'n'Sleazy on Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow with Roy performing live. Tickets should be available at the door. You can buy the single from the Banchory Shop at http://www.banchoryshop.net/ cheers, Katrina @ Banchory. http://www.banchory.net http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit www.banchoryshop.net/belleandsebastian/list/list.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Sun Jun 22 05:38:16 2003 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 04:38:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: a post in quotes Message-ID: "A boy can be mad ugly but if he smells good he can still get the filly." In 1998, my brother heard the above from a hairdresser from Queens who worked at the prestigious Von Curtis Salon. I once read an article about Von Curtis after a car had jumped the curve and ran into their building shattering glass and partially entering into their business/school. I remember one dedicated beauty worker being quoted as saying something to the effect of, "We just kept on working. We had dyes and perms to do - you can't let broken glass keep you from things like that." It somehow reminded me of that touching quote from King of the Hill, "You know, at the beauty academy they teach us that people aren't black or white or yellow or red, but their hair can be." Employees of Von Curtis - I tip my trucker hat to you. But - and this is said in my best Sophia impression here - I digress. Since hearing this sagacious piece of wisdom my brother has married, had a child, quit his teaching job to work for a grocery store, and now lives in a two bedroom apartment with an air conditioner with a remote control. What other sign of advance civilization and luxury living then an air conditioner with a remote control? Thus, I would feel remiss if I kept this secret key of insight into female nature to myself. Sadly, I don't have any equal advice on how to make the boys swoon. This is obvious since if I did Kevin Hyde could be quoted as saying, "as she always rock my pants off" rather than just his socks being obliterated. However, I shall dispense my own personal motto of life which I try to center my life around as I find that it help keeps me on the straight and narrow. This personal statement is, naturally, stolen from Oscar Wilde*. It is this: "Life is too short to dance with ugly men." Repeat that one to yourself in the mirror. No truer words were ever spoken. And if that doesn't work for you then just do what I do and follow the wisdom of Morrissey: Word Magazine: Did you hear t.A.T.u.'s version of "How Soon Is Now?" Morrissey: Yes, it was magnificent. Absolutely. Again, I don't know much about them. WM: They are teenage Russian lesbians. Morrissey: Well, aren't we all? Lastly, to those who are happily coupled and who have no need to hear such words I must send out my congratulations. This is specifically going out to Julie Sexpot of a Sauer and Werther David Hewitt who were married at the first of this month. Aw, I remember back in the day when they were just beginning to make eyes at each other from across the sides of the globe. I would be hard pressed to find two people who I like more so the best of luck to both of you. I only wish you didn't live all the way in Australia as I miss visits with Julie tremendously. She once said she'd snog me and now that will never happen. Now, every time I kiss someone I'll just sigh discontentedly and say "*You're* no Sexpot." My life is forever ruined. But congratulations anyway! Well, being the bookshop girl I am I feel as if I've been attacked by a swarm of rabid snitches with all of the Potter madness. There was a midnight party at my own little bookshop where two other sinisters were in attendance: the ever esteemed GayJay and then Eric (of former half bee status) who I hadn't had the pleasure of meeting before. I was distracted by the stress and dread of the looming crowd so I apologize that I wasn't very good company. In fact, they spent most of their time in #sinister even when I was just behind the counter nervously straightening things or staring at my shoes while trying to calm myself down for the impending stampede soon to come upon me. At some point, I realized I should be nice and try one of those "conversation" things I hear everyone always talking about or, for that matter, talking because of but I went with the "socially awkward and silent" card instead. It's a good hand for me. Nevertheless, I'm glad they came and I made them both give me hugs at the end because I don't let cute boys get away from me without one, even if they don't really like girls. I hope I didn't give either of them cooties... Ll *"If, with the literate, I am impelled to make an epigram, I never seek to take the credit; We all assume that Oscar said it" - Dorothy Parker PS - Yes, I meet people when I'm in the mountains of North Carolina but I have no sinister meetups to report back from from my three week cross country roadtrip which I just returned from. (Started in North Carolina all the 2,000 miles to San Diego up the western sea coast to Seattle and then a slow saunter across Montana to South Dakota until I dipped myself so far south I ended up back home). This wasn't from lack of trying though and I'm sorry that I missed SGS, Markelby, and Billzebub - all of who I wanted to see. PPS - I got tickets for the b&s show at prospect park in August. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Mon Jun 23 01:29:00 2003 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (Andrea Kittenmouse) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 17:29:00 -0700 Subject: Sinister: b&s alphabet radio Message-ID: Hiya, Thanks to everyone who listened in the web broadcast of the belle and sebastian alphabet radio show last week on kittenmouse radio. It was fun trading livejournal comments and getting requests from people I recognised from sinister. :0) If anyone likes baked apples, I just found out you can make them in the microwave and they're just as good. I posted a half-assed recipe on my livejournal When the hell is the belle and sebastian dvd coming out? I tried looking on every different label website associated with the band that I could think of, all for nothing. I'm starting to not give a crap anymore. :0( -a. k.mouse andrea**kittenmouse radio*mondays 9-10 pm PST kpsu 1450 am in portland, oregon in realaudio at www.kpsu.org kittenmouse at hotmail.com web.pdx.edu/~andreay _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From COURTOLY at xxx.com Mon Jun 23 05:29:29 2003 From: COURTOLY at xxx.com (COURTOLY at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 00:29:29 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <7FB6D228.6BC54829.0067BCE9@aol.com> Sorry I haven't posted in so long and come out with a sale. There is an Arab Strap CD there for a lucky person... Check out my e-bay auctions for designer clothing and cool accessories! CD sale The following cds are available for $1 a piece, $5 minimum, free shipping and handling. If you do not pick 5 cds I will send you surprises. They are not in jewel boxes, and include inserts unless noted. Promos have inserts but are marked. Pay-Pay preferred, checks or money orders accepted. 5ive Style. T.B.A. (promo) 764-Hero. Salt Sinks, Sugar Floats. (no insert) Arab Strap. The Week Never Starts Round Here. Arling and Cameron. 1999 Space Club. The Blow, Bonus Album (promo) The Boyish Charms. The Extended-Playing Paradox. The Brother Egg s/t The Centimeters. I’m Not Exercising Enough/African Paper The Crooner. Heaven Airlines. Sarah Dougher. Day One. Jerk With A Bomb. Death to False Metal. Flop. Whenever You’re Ready (Promo. The Fly Seville. Carosel. The For Carnation The Frosted Ambassador. Gaze. Shake the Pounce. The Gift Machine. …Don’t Turn Me Off Internal/External. Featuring… w/Kathleen Hanna, Lois, Calvin Johnson IQU w/Miranda July. Girls on Dates Liquorice. Listening Cap. (promo) Carolyn Mark. Party Girl. Medeiros. (no insert) The Mendoza Line ep. Like Someone In Love. Milksop Holly. Milkweeds. Mogwai. Come on Die Young Parini s/t Plastic Bubble. Gravity, Reality, and Related Compounds Revolutionary Hydra. “Your Heads Will Describe An Arc Known As the…” w/novel on cd Scrabbel s/t. Sub Debs. She’s So Control. Television Personalities. Top Gear Vermont. Living Together. Wolfie. And the Coat and Hat. Zantopoulos. Portal. V/a Breathmint Records the Winterfresh Revolution w/ J Church and Slack Action v/a Charm sntk. W/ Aislers Set, Deerhoof, Replikants, the Need and more v/a Classic Elements. K Records hip hop comp. v/a CMJ New Music October 2000 w/ Grandaddy, John Wesley Harding, and Ryan Adams v/a Pop Culture Press. The Great Summer Pop Sampler w/ Spoon, The Raincoats, and Boyracer v/a Post Marked Stamps comp w/ Rainier Maria, Aspera Ad Astra, Braid, Get Up Kids and more +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From karmakamilia at xxx.pt Mon Jun 23 15:44:28 2003 From: karmakamilia at xxx.pt (ariana couvinha) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:44:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: i started something that i couldnt finish... Message-ID: <200306231443.PAA06865@missprint.org> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From kmhyde at xxx.edu Mon Jun 23 17:56:15 2003 From: kmhyde at xxx.edu (Kevin Hyde) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 12:56:15 -0400 Subject: Sinister: fo'matted in plain text, no kidding. [vs] Message-ID: <000101c339a8$5cc48da0$ac72ef80@DEVELOPMENT> Hi everyone, For those of you who were mutely shocked and appalled at the advent of date-rape rock, courtesy of Mr. Mayer, I think I may have found the first post-Mayer practitioner of the art: Josh Rouse. However, if I were going to speculate about such things (and I will), I would guess that d-r. rock historians will show Josh Rouse to be the Magazine of the genre, compared to Mayer's Buzzcocks. Rouse has simply taken it to the next level with his semi-conceptual album about a Midwestern couple in the 1950's. Sensitive? check; earnest? check; semi-attractive frat-boy-ish singer? Also very check. This kid has a limitless future in my opinion, and yes, for those of you wondering, he is American. I'm just waiting for the inevitable U.K. counterparts, not to mention the consequent NME renal-failure-inducing hype. Hot. <> Laura Llew said: "Sadly, I don't have any equal advice on how to make the boys swoon. This is obvious since if I did Kevin Hyde could be quoted as saying, "as she always rock my pants off" rather than just his socks being obliterated." Oh my. Most boys swoon, this is true. Though, for some reason, most of the men in my family, when confronted with even a slightly attractive woman, will throw the backs of their hands to their foreheads and exclaim "I have the vapors", which habit I am also unfortunately very much in the genetic grip of. I only said socks because 'pants' would leave nothing to the imagination. This way sinsterines and -ettes can mentally grapple with the image suggested of my black dress socks being forcibly blown from my feet, whereas with 'pants', everyone is left with the logistical nightmare of HOW MY PANTS CAME OFF OVER MY SHOES AND SOCKS. Too much. Speaking of pants-off, my little brothers informed me, over email this weekend, that there is some danger involved in combining Pert Plus and private parts (is this phrase scary to anyone else? It is creepy like 'life partner', which Joe Pernice from the Pernice Bros. agrees. I only used it for alliterative purposes, to curry favor with K.C.). Apparently, (and incredibly) two of them had independently discovered this in the shower when there was a lack of bar soap. The description my fifteen year-old brother, Sean, gave me over the phone was something like "it felt kind of minty fresh at first, but then it started to burn and freeze at the same time". Which I can only hope was the intention of Proctor and Gamble, to gently cauterize the scrota of poorly-informed teens and pre-teens. So, just a warning to those of you out there eyeing the shampoo or conditioner and thinking it will give your nether regions an olfactory change of pace: my brothers told me that massive doses (mountains in fact) of baby powder were required to stop the burning. There was one last thing I wanted to add: the portion of the subject line in brackets is my own way of rating my Sinister post. This particular one is [very smutty]. I suppose that doesn't help anyone now if you've read this far, having already gone through the potentially unpleasant portions. But hey! That makes my post like an ourobouros. Phew, finally, and they said it couldn't be done. Cup lids are my anti-spill, love, Kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neild at xxx.com Mon Jun 23 22:00:27 2003 From: neild at xxx.com (Neil D) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:00:27 -0600 Subject: Sinister: dancing on Mars Message-ID: Hello Sinister, I've never posted and was granted a voice quite a while ago... Eventually the creepiness of lurking for so long outweighed my lack of any real B&S content, so here I am. I just wanted to be updated of any upcoming gigs but was surprised by a whole community. SPACE Years back in university I was doing this design project, it was a web site that showed a diary of an astronaut and his travels. My teacher then asks if I've ever heard of Belle and Sebastian, and I say no. He tells me, and the class that my project reminds him of this song "A Space Boy Dream." So the next class he brings a cd in and plays it real loud for the class, and explains his interpretation of the song: There's this guy who is going to Mars, with his sister and his dad, and he's really apprehensive. When he gets out with his family they meet the Martians, who aren't that bad really, and they throw a big party and that's what that last bit of the song is, where it kicks up a bit, it's the Martians playing some music and everyone loves it and is dancing on Mars. He says that's what he thinks anyway, and that's the kind of music he listens to. From then on I was hooked. Now that I think about it the song really had nothing to do with the project, other than the fact that it had an astronaut telling a story. I think he just wanted an excuse to play some music for the class! Which was alright with me. REPORTING BACK Well I have nothing to report back really as I've never seen a B&S gig! I don't think they come to Canada too often. Well not to where I am at least. I must admit I get slightly jealous reading the list and everyone going to gigs and picnics every weekend it seems. I did almost see B&S once in Stockholm last spring though, I would have had to buy a ticket the night of the show, they were 1500:- which is over $200 CAN so I couldn't really afford it. But my friend went, and she ended up going to the pub attached to the venue after the show, and said it was oddly deserted as if no one knew about it. Then the whole band came out and they were all on the dance floor, and she spent the evening hanging out with them. They ended up going to this other club, and when asked for ID no one in the band had any, so they got denied, if you can believe it! So the band asked her and her friends to come back to the hotel and party with them, but she declined. It would have been a cool first B&S gig... That's enough for now, I think I'll go back to lurking -Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Hewitt at xxx.uk Tue Jun 24 13:48:18 2003 From: S.Hewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:48:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: GLASTO MEETUP (tried to think of a punning title, but failed, so went for direct option) Message-ID: Um, just a quick one kiddywinks. In case any of you are going to glastonbury and have missed the frankly scintillating conversations on siniglasto about inflatable canoes, poo and giant robot donald fishers this is just to let you know that there will be an exciting gathering of the tribes/picnic/FAP (sinister, other belle and sebastian interweb hobby, franks, space-cadets, ilx and several random others all in the same place at once!!) with the following details: Thursday night (from 7ish) Oneworld (nee Jazzworld, nee Jazz) Field Next to the BROTHERS BAR perry stall With an inflatable canoe. Apparently. Come, it shall be fun :) Perry is pear cider by the way, it tastes like sweets. Sweets with lots of alcohol in, that is... There is also possible hanging around in the field of lost vagueness (I'm not making this up, you know) on Saturday afternoon, but no firm plans as such... KEN CHU may even be there, well he'll certainly be on site, but whether you can get past the screaming ladies and his burly bouncers is another matter entirely... (hehehe "burly bouncers") Woohoo I'm going to be in a field in two days time!!! xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Tue Jun 24 15:47:58 2003 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:47:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: GLASTO MEETUP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I once danced outside the pear cider stall for a happy hour or so after Orbital. I was high on life, naturally. Not sure if we'll be camped and all that by seven, but I'll look out for the Sinister posse at Love. I am also looking forward to: Sigur Ros Radiohead Flaming Lips Polyphonic Spree Junior Senior Also, my friend Sam is playing in a band called Weapons Of Mass Belief at some point, so if you find you have nothing else to do when they're on, go take a look. No idea what they sound like, but they should be good. His things usually are. Anything else I should be looking out for? All obscure but danceable world music tips welcome. Manu Chao was my highlight of last year (apart from the Boys Are Back In Town, of course!) Two days to go... x > From: "Hewitt, Stephen" > Reply-To: "Hewitt, Stephen" > Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:48:18 +0100 > To: "'sinister at missprint.org'" > Subject: Sinister: GLASTO MEETUP (tried to think of a punning title, but > failed, so went for direct option) > > Um, just a quick one kiddywinks. > > In case any of you are going to glastonbury and have missed the frankly > scintillating conversations on siniglasto about inflatable canoes, poo and > giant robot donald fishers this is just to let you know that there will be > an exciting gathering of the tribes/picnic/FAP (sinister, other belle and > sebastian interweb hobby, franks, space-cadets, ilx and several random > others all in the same place at once!!) with the following details: > > Thursday night (from 7ish) > Oneworld (nee Jazzworld, nee Jazz) Field > Next to the BROTHERS BAR perry stall > With an inflatable canoe. Apparently. > > Come, it shall be fun :) > > Perry is pear cider by the way, it tastes like sweets. Sweets with lots of > alcohol in, that is... > > There is also possible hanging around in the field of lost vagueness (I'm > not making this up, you know) on Saturday afternoon, but no firm plans as > such... > > KEN CHU may even be there, well he'll certainly be on site, but whether you > can get past the screaming ladies and his burly bouncers is another matter > entirely... > > (hehehe "burly bouncers") > > Woohoo I'm going to be in a field in two days time!!! > > xoxo > CarsmileSteve > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Tue Jun 24 15:05:37 2003 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:05:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Don't leave the GLAST-ON-BURY (geddit?) Message-ID: Hey dudes, LTNS* kittens. How are we all? So it's been, like, 14 days, like, since my birthday, and it's been fairly good so far. Enjoying my usual mix of a rock and roll lifestyle, daytime job, fun stuff and bad things as usual, every bin has a silver liner innit. --- And on the morning of my birthday (very early) the postman rang the doorbell! (well he actually buzzed the intercom, but it was a figure of speech) and told me I had a PARCEL! I was hoping it was a kissogram, but it was instead a PLAYSTATION 2! What a birthday present that was. :-D And then later on the SAME MORNING, another postman came. "Surely i'm getting a SMOOCH now," I thought, but nope it was a recorded mail in an envelope. And I opened it and it was my GLASTONBURY 2003 TICKET! Genius. I felt like a birthday boy then, even though I did purchase both items myself... and I got even more and better actual presents afterwards too which made me dance like a dancing machine. --- But I couldn't use either of the items until this week when first of all, after months of putting it off I couldn't resist the urge to buy myself a TV! This urge, obviously had to happen at HALF PAST MIDNIGHT when everywhere that sold TVs are shut, except ASDA, I couldn't go to ASDA at half past midnight to buy a TV because only fools go to ASDA at half past midnight, let alone buying a TV. Half an hour later I arrived at ASDA, and the place was PACKED! And the first thing that greeted me was a stack of TVs! I was after the cheapest TV they have so these TVs didn't suit me, but they were tempting (TV cum -- hehe -- DVD for £119! But my PLAYSTATION 2 already plays DVDs so that was unnecessary), so venturing through the hordes of shoppers and further into the shop, I found the aisle of TVs. --- If I had 300 quid to spare, and a pair of very long arms I would have bought myself that TV that's looked a couple of inches longer than that guy's cock from "Boogie Nights". Instead I got myself the cheapest telly of them all (and it turned out the only one that would have fitting into the space I had for it in my room), and took it to the counter. I couldn't believe how many people were at the ASDA at (by then) 1 in the morning, there were 15 queues open and each of them were packed, it was crazy. Luckily, the people with less than 5 items got waved on to pay at the Cigarettes counter. I looked at some of them with my accusative eyes as if to say "Why are you getting your groceries at 1 in the morning?", as I carried my 14 inch TV past them. I acknowledged the fact that it was a funny time to be buying a TV to the cigarettes counter lady, but she was very professional and said that they do open 24-hours afterall. Instead of offering me sex. Instead of sex I played on my PLAYSTATION 2 all night (no that was not a euphemism.. yes yes waggling your analog joystick blah blah haha DVD cum entertainment system yeah yeah boom boom etc.) --- If I go on anymore about my amazing purchases I might turn into idleberry, so I'm going to talk about GLASTONBURY instead. --- Well pants with your Thursday meet-ups. Some people have IMPORTANT JOBS and thus can't get a day off work on Friday (my job, whilst IMPORTANT, it wasn't quite so IMPORTANT -- so I got a HALF-DAY off). Hope you guys have fun though. I shall be on a field from before it gets dark on Friday on, you might find me on late Friday night somewhere near the Pyramid Stage going \m/ to possibly not David Gray and possibly to REM. Or you might possibly not find me there at all as there will be approximately 101092 people, possibly going \m/ to possibly not to David Gray and possibly to REM. I shall also most likely be going \m/ on Saturday night also near the Pyramid Stage most likely to RADIOHEAD and FLAMING LIPS. I also might be seeing The Frames, Beth Orton, Yo La Tengo, Delgados, and others. Also check out Acoustic Tent #324984 (i.e. our tent) for THE RED BULL DOZERS live, singing possibly "Vindaloo" or "Ferry Cross the Mersey" whilst drunk. Look for someone who hasn't cut his hair for a wee while..That's me. I'm trying to get the hippy look going in time for Glastonbury you see. I've been developing a fondness for hippies lately. If you do want to meet up properly then give me an email and I'll give you my moby-number innit (not MOBY'S number.. even though he'd be there too) --- See yous soon! Ken * LTNS = long time no see - pronounced "littens" ********************************************************************** This email is confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Tue Jun 24 20:15:39 2003 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:15:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the special stars of track and field Message-ID: I'm not much of a sports lover, but the other day I found myself at the opening ceremony of the Special Olympics. This sporting event is held every four years and mirrors the usual olympic events, only in the Special Olympics you need an intellectual disability before you can take part. This is the first year the event has taken place outside the United States of America. Being in the crowd for a big event is a somewhat strange experience... there is always the creeping suspicion that you are there not to be an audience yourself, but to appear on television as an audience. the coloured flags they distributed to turn sections of the stadium into solid blocks of colour certainly contributed to this. but getting to wave the flags enthusiastically all the time was essentially enjoyable. Less successful were the organisers attempts to discipline we flagwavers. They had these cheerleader types down the front holding up big placards telling us what to do with the flags, while shouters would shout instructions. Sadly when you have a load of flagwavers in front of you it was a bit hard to see what the placards said, and the noise of cheering drowned out the shouters. Still, some amusement did ensue from the process. One of the placards contained the word "SHIMMY", but the shouters all seemed to render this as "SHIM-MAY!" like on South Park. it was great fun cheering for all the athletes, who were themselves delighted at the proceedings. the Iraqi team got a standing ovation. The USA team did as well, partly because they had Muhammed Ali as a celebrity supporter. the other great feature of the USA team was that it made up at least a fifth of all the athletes, suggesting a hope for winning medals by weight of numbers. There was a lot of music at the event. The Corrs were rather lame, but they did prove a hit with the intellectually disabled. There were a number of drumming based acts, all reminiscent of popular Japanese mentalists Kodo, so I thought they were G*R*A*T*E. Samantha Mumba's almost certainly mimed R&B fluff was poptastic, U2's performance a bit generic, but the actual musical highlight was a performance of that Riverdance. Taking a leaf from the USA team, the largest EVER line of Irish dancers was assembled, something like a hundred strong. The sound of two hundred feet tapping away on the stage completely drowned out the orchestra behind them, a moment of extreme strikingness. Sadly Belle & Sebastian did not get to play, as they are neither Irish nor special. anyway, enough shite about sport. now let me tell me why I am going to be unsubscribing for a little while. It is because I am going to the Glastonbury Festival tomorrow. who knows, perhaps I might see some of you there. usual shoutouts apply - Pinefox, ~Stine, Foranotherdream, Carsmile, etc. you know who you are. bless you all, ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From foreversheepish at xxx.uk Wed Jun 25 01:27:03 2003 From: foreversheepish at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Chris=20Eames?=) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 01:27:03 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Perfect Opening Line Message-ID: <20030625002703.56925.qmail@web20709.mail.yahoo.com> "A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct" There seems to have been quite a few 'first posts' in the last couple of days so I thought I would try and slip my own is subtly, hoping nobody will notice if I make a fool of myself. Its surprisingly scary getting that e-mail form Honey's computer. I have felt like I have been eavesdropping on someone else's conversation for the last couple of weeks but now I have been found out, and suddenly I need to come up with my own opinions and contributions. I have been sat here for the last fifteen minutes thinking about what i should type, ou know what they say about first impressions! >From what i have been reading in the archives it seems everyone here is friendly which puts my mind at ease that you wont hold it against me if this turns out too crazy like. Incidently reading all the past posts for the last couple of months has been a welcome distraction from the so called important process of revision I have been avoiding these past few weeks. Exams are over now which is good, (I'm was silly enough to chose a degree course in which exams in my first and second year count to the total mark i get). Ok, so before i get too off-topic I should really talk about Belle and Sebastian, whom I have had a private love affair with for the past few years. My bigest regret is that i only came across Sinister so recently! Unfortunatly I have not had the pleasure of seeing the band live (yet!) but hopefully they will play somewhere within easy train travelling distance of London in the near future...... Mabey after the new album cmes out (anyone know when thats likely to be?). In the meantime I will continue to wait with baited breath. On the plus side, I did recently see The Frames at the Union Chapel, and they were superb! They don't play in England too often, but to any of you lucky lucky Sinister type people with Glasonbury tickets I would highly recomend you take the oppertunity to see them then. I may not be going to Glastonbury, but I do have the picnick in Hyde park to look foward to. I have to say that i'm more than a little scared though as being such a new member I wont know anyone there! Of course meeting new people is always fun (especially B&S types) but definatly scary. So, I encourage anyone who is anywhere near London to come along on saterday, am I going to be the only newbie there? I hope not! On that note I will leave you all in peace for now, to the lucky festival goers I would ask you all to spare a thought for those less fortunate when you are setting your tents up.... -Chris. ps. If anyone knows of any London like events/bands etc coming up then feel free to let me know, my social callender seems awfullly bare this summer :( ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From notirakaplan at xxx.uk Wed Jun 25 11:45:12 2003 From: notirakaplan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?josh=20hogan?=) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:45:12 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Glasgow Area - Free Darkness! Message-ID: <20030625104512.46700.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> You may be interested in this National Park gig, although I doubt many Glasgow dwellers saw the Park supporting Belle and Sebastion at the Shepherds Bush Empire. Some of you may know the Park from the Geographic compilation 'You don't need darkness...' They are playing with Music and Movement and Lucky Luke at: Glasgow, STEREO, Kelvinhaugh St., Tuesday July 8, 9pm, £4 National Park are like this: a mystery, loose, first single ten minutes long and recorded on a tape deck, folky, warm, a bit like the Velvet Underground, lonesome, appear on the Domino Geographic Records compilation "You don't need darkness to do what you think is right". Music and Movement are made up of : organic produce; hypnotic pop music complete with harmony and drone; sometime Teenage Fanclub keyboard player, Finlay MacDonald. For the car, bedroom or living room but best enjoyed in a live music venue. Lucky Luke describe themselves as dense folk who play surreal folk for local folk. Others may describe them as a feisty, rousing, archaic, folk-rock rumble. For more information: National Park: http://www.nationalparksite.com Music and Movement: http://www.musicandmovement.co.uk Lucky Luke information will be found pinned to a tree, near the duckpond, in Kelvingrove Park. ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From karmakamilia at xxx.pt Wed Jun 25 17:35:55 2003 From: karmakamilia at xxx.pt (ariana couvinha) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:35:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: oh give me cofee n tv Message-ID: <200306251637.RAA07281@missprint.org> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From dancatjess at xxx.com Wed Jun 25 21:21:50 2003 From: dancatjess at xxx.com (Emma Cooper) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 21:21:50 +0100 (GMT/BST) Subject: Sinister: Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 19:11:47 +0100 Message-ID: Hello Hope everyone's having fun. This is my first post. I'm a bit nervous. I found out about Belle & Sebastian from my 28 year old cousin Jesse and his long time girlfriend (now split up, he's a bit upset) Mary. They had all the EPs and played some to me at a family do and it sounded good so I ended up getting into it. I have fold your hands... and the boy with the arab strap, but i get the impression from this list I should get Tigermilk. I watched star wars on saturday and now desperately want someone to do a sketch whereby Darth and Luke are fighting and Darth goes " (swoosh, swoosh) Joyhn tha daaahhk side sahn" and Luke goes " (swoosh, swoosh) yaow cahn't tell me wot to do, yaour nort moiy fahver" and then Darth swooshes some more and says " yes I ahm" and then you hear duh, duh, duhduhdduhduh ( Eastenders themetune). I guess that looks pretty stupid if you didn't see eastenders around christmas time. Oh well I Finished my a-level exams today. It was a bit strange leaving a school I had walked to every day for 7 years. The first five years were awful with fun bits and then the last 2 were really fun and good, mainly because the year went from 130 horrible people and 20 nice people to around 70 ok people and some very nice ones. Hopefully come results day I'll have a-levels in maths, french and chemistry. I haven't been to any Belle & Sebastian gigs but I intend to when I can in the future. It's very nice weather here, hot sunny. ( I live in the Peak District in the north of England) Emma +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From public at xxx.net Thu Jun 26 14:49:23 2003 From: public at xxx.net (Vanessa Roseline Siegl) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:49:23 +0200 Subject: Sinister: shameless plug - La Traviata from Paris - Wnet Ny area Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030626154823.00a30010@pop.chello.at> I'd like to ask someone who can reach wnet in the NY area a favour. On June 28 at 1:30 pm they'll broadcast a performance of La Traviata my dad is after - could anyone record this (my dad has a video recorder supporting all formats so american format wouldn't be a problem) in exchange for a fresh video tape and Austrian chocolates + postage? -- I am not a misanthropist, some of my best friends are human. http://www.clodia.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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Name: not available URL: From stephanowic at xxx.it Fri Jun 27 15:51:19 2003 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefano_[Steady-State]?=) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:51:19 +0200 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?nyde_park_picnic+notes?= Message-ID: Dear all Sinister This is just a brief note to remember that there will be a picnic in hyde park tomorrow the 28th of June, the meeting point is fixed outside hyde park corner tube station at about 2ish. Unfortunately I won´t be able to be there, because of rather unexpected and I would say quite dramatic circumstances I am back in my little village in northern Italy after leaving the UsofA in a certain kind of rush. Dave (dafyd) will take over as a picnic mum. Hope there´ll be a massive there, that is going be a great day and take picture I can look at once I´ll be back Take care you all Yours sinister (and almost steady) Stefano ~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~ in the time of the winter the waiter fell into the snow he could hear a voice but will he ever find his way if I'm so far from your heart why do I feel it beat and time won't wait for us ~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neild at xxx.com Fri Jun 27 17:30:25 2003 From: neild at xxx.com (Neil D) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:30:25 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Les sinisterines de Montr=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=al? Message-ID: Hello Sinister! I'm just wondering if there is anyone from Montréal on this list, I'm going there on Sunday for a week, and I'm looking on tips for things to do/see/go good clubs/nights, etc.,. Any information would be appreciated! Please e-mail me off list if you have any. I was going to say I wish I had more news than that, but for me it's pretty exciting! -Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From foreversheepish at xxx.uk Fri Jun 27 21:33:16 2003 From: foreversheepish at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Chris=20Eames?=) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 21:33:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The state that I am in Message-ID: <20030627203316.20785.qmail@web20710.mail.yahoo.com> Has anyone ever woken up in the morning and felt sort of empty inside? I felt like that today so I decided to go wandering around book shops for the afternoon. Book shops have always had a kinda calming effect on me, a bit like old libraries. They are more dangerous than libraries though. I always have to make sure I don't end up buying too many books, they can be far too expensive (especially text books). I think it would be quite nice to work in a book shop, although mabey not when thousands of people are trying to get their hands on a copy of harry potter! A really loud car alarm has been going off for the last fifteen minutes outside my house, it was starting to give me a headache but it has just stopped. I think it was a good thing really, as I can now appreciate the silence that it has left behind. The worst thing that happened to me today was when the batteries ran out on my minidisk player just as i started to walk home. That tends to happen whenever I really need to listen to something. The best thing that happened to me today was when i found a Grandaddy album i was after was on special offer for £4.99! Hmmm having looked at what I have typed so far, its all sounding qite gloomy for which I appologise. I will brighten up the post by ending with happy picknick thoughts. Hopefully tomorrow will be sunny in a summer wasting happy kinda way :) Now it is just starting to get dark outside, so I will leave you waiting for the moon to rise. xxxChris ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Sun Jun 29 15:00:16 2003 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunny set) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 14:00:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: he goes to school around the way... Message-ID: The dog looked confused. She looked at the small grey box which seemed to know her name. Then at her girl. Then back the small grey box. It really did know her name. She was confused, was it some sort of trick? The girl looked at her and laughed. She wasn't much help in these situations. The dog sighed and concentrated hard. The small grey box sung her name again. "Belle was ok but, oh Sebastian, went too far again..." The dog ran in circles with excitement. The dog didn't�t know anyone called Sebastian but that didn't matter to her. There was no doubt in her mind that the song was about her. She made it her mission in life to discover what the song was about. Head cocked to one side she studiously listened. 2 minutes later though she was bored and made it her mission in life to find food. She didn't like to trouble herself with things for too long. There were too many different things that needed investigating. The girl on the otherhand remained on the floor listening to other songs. It was hard to remember the time before when it was just her, well her and him, that knew these songs. Of course there was never really a time when that was true, but it had certainly felt that way. The girl was never sure why she loved the music. Being in love with anything is complicated and the more you analyse the less certain you become as to what it is you love. Whenever she tried to explain to someone else what was so great about a song she found herself floundering. It was staring at closed eyelids with notes flying through the space around her. It was the way she could go back and listen to something and find it soothe her through the lonely uncertain times and bring near perfection to the happier moments. It was just a feeling. The dog ran back in and licked her face. Then for good measure she ran and licked the small grey box. She felt it deserved it for bringing a smile to the girl's face and a wag to her tail. Hope you are all well, Take Care Rachel ************* This is why we stay alive. Think about it. It's not what we've done, it's what we might do, it's not where we've failed, it's where we might at last succeed, it's not the previous page in the book that holds the beauty and the hope, but the next page. http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk ***************** _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Mon Jun 30 19:03:24 2003 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:03:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: stuart interview Message-ID: heya kiddies just thought y'all would like to know about an interview/profile of Stuart Murdoch, which will appear in this week's edition of the Big Issue Scotland, out on Thursday. for those of you not lucky enough to be in Scotland, it might appear online at http://www.bigissuescotland.com or, at the very least, you might be able to order a copy from there. not sure how it works. btw, it was lovely meeting more of you this weekend for the npl hotfest/nal bash. I hear some of you also had a rendezvous at g-fest. how did that go then? big brother is poisoning me wimbledon is poisoning matt behave happy reading -stacey _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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