From irivamon at xxx.com Mon Sep 1 05:50:20 2003 From: irivamon at xxx.com (Ian Rivamonte) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:50:20 -0700 Subject: Sinister: San Francisco Football Game with Stuart Message-ID: Before I start telling y'all about the football game, an apology on my part. I instructed my brother to e-mail the list using my e-mail account the details of the S.F. Football Game with Stuart today. Unfortunately, I guess it didn't post to the List. Regardless (for reasons explained below) the notice was extremely short and circumstances were just out of my control. So the story begins . . . I was helping a couple of friends move house in Downtown San Francisco starting at 7am. Yeah, imagine driving a 10 passenger Suburban SUV with loads of stuff in Downtown San Francisco and then trying to find parking. Not fun. At around 12pm, we were all tired and sweaty and opted for a quick bite at the local California Pizza Kitchen (CPK for you hip in the lingo) on Geary St. in Downtown. As we were walking, my friend said to me, "Hey! That's Stuart!" I'm like, "Huh? What? Where? Who? What? Huh?" It's funny that she mentioned that because I just told her a few hours ago how I wanted to play football with Stuart and gather people up but to no avail. So, I did what came naturally . . . I yelled out his name in the hopes of him turning around. So, I yelled "Stuart!" and he turned around and I waved "Hi!" And he waved "Hi" back and approached us. We talked for a little bit and then I asked, "So, do you still want to play football today?" And he got all excited, "Yeah! How about at 2 today?" Well, we eventually settled for 4:30 because we were all still moving and that was the earliest time possible. I gave Stuart my phone number and I told him to meet us at Golden Gate Park at the football field near the windmill. So, I ate, I called everyone in my cell phone list, and I text messaged my brother instructing him to e-mail the List for the details. It was around 1:30 pm by this time, and I had no access to a computer. So, at around 3pm, I saw Stuart again. This time, he was standing at the intersection with his more sporty outfit on and I believe he was carrying a football with him. That's when I knew he was for real! After returning the car, I took a cab to my apartment and dressed up in my football gear. My friends were updating me saying, "There's nobody here. The soccer fields are closed. And there's no Stuart." This is at 4:45pm. 2 of my friends left, and the only two left were Tom and Jason. I told them to wait there for me so I can at least say hi to them. I arrived at the fields close to 5pm, called Jason again and he says, "Yeah, we're here at the fields and Stuart is here!" I'm like, "SHIT!!" So, I ran like the wind and sure enough, Stuart was there ready to play. I apologized to him and told him that because of the short notice, there was no way for me to gather the troops and play. Instead, the four of us, me, Stuart, Jason, and Tom, decided to look for a football game. I opted to drive and all four of us were snug in my Jetta and we were looking for a football game. We eventually found one near the grass fields on 19th Ave. A bunch of international kids were having a bar-b-q and we decided to ask them if they wanted to play. They did and it turned into a 4-4 game. Team B&S v. International Kids. The International Kids got off to a fast start, scoring 2 goals despite the aggressive defense the four of us took on. We needed to regroup so we did. In a very elegant play, I kicked the ball to Jason, who kicked it to Tom, who then kicked a surging Stuart who then kicked the ball into the goal! Score one for Team B&S! 2-1 International Kids at that point. The game was played tough with Stuart slipping and getting hit in the head with the ball a couple of times. We eventually got to a 4-4 tie when we decided that first one to 6 wins. Well, International Kids scored a quick 5th goal and they scored another past my lunging legs. International Kids 6, Team B&S 4. It was a fun game and we all got a group picture with Team B&S and the International Kids. I will post the link when I get a chance. Afterwards, we all got back in my car and my two other friends, Meriza and Jamie, found us and squeezed in. They said hello to Stuart. After dropping everyone off, I drove Stuart to his friend's house on the other side of Kezar Stadium. We talked about a lot of stuff and it was so awesome! Stuart on San Francisco: "I love San Francisco! My favourite city in the U.S." Stuart on KCRW's DJ saying that Belle & Sebastian are members of the band: "I was grumpy that day because the headphones weren't working. I didn't notice that he said that. That's why I asked Stevie to do the talking." Being the maniac that I am, I asked Stuart to say hello to my friend Elaine via mobile. I dialed up her number and told Elaine, "Hey, someone wants to talk to you!" And then Stuart talked, "Hello Elaine. This is Stuart Murdoch of Belle & Sebastian. How are you? How's the weather in L.A.?" So, yeah. I dropped him off. Shook his hand. Thanked him for a wonderful game. He thanked me for a wonderful game. Now he's doing a Pub Quiz at Berkeley. Probably the Albatross. I'm here resting my sore body from the move and the game. Thanks for reading! Photos to follow (hopefully). Cheers, Ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From claddie at xxx.com Mon Sep 1 14:29:19 2003 From: claddie at xxx.com (claddie at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20030901132919.72447.qmail@web41015.mail.yahoo.com> ok....so this is my first time mailing on here, even though i've been joined to this godforsaken mailing list for 5 years, or so! thanks to you all for making me smile on sunny days and cry on rainy days...i wouldn't have it any other way! i like it when i check my mail and there is like 500 msgs from you music nuts! so anyone out there into shoegazing music? or am i alone? can't wait for new B&S album...has anyone heard it yet? will it live up to all our expectations...i wonder!!! anyway not really sure what else to say...just thought it was about time i said HI. clare xx __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Mon Sep 1 15:01:49 2003 From: lulou at xxx.org (Linda Kerr) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:01:49 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian News Mailing List - New Album Release details (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:40:22 -0000 From: band at xxx.net To: lulou at crockery.org Subject: Belle and Sebastian News Mailing List - New Album Release details Belle and Sebastian's sixth album "Dear Catastrophe Waitress" will be released by Rough Trade Records in the UK/Europe on October 6th 2003 on CD and Gatefold Double Vinyl. The track listing is as follows:- Step Into My Office, Baby Dear Catastrophe Waitress If She Wants Me Piazza, New York Catcher Asleep On A Sunbeam I'm A Cuckoo You Don't Send Me Wrapped Up In Books Lord Anthony If You Find Yourself Caught In Love Roy Walker Stay Loose The album will be released in the US by Rough Trade America on October 7th, in Japan by Toshiba-EMI on September 29th, in Brasil by Trama on October 6th and in Australia by Spunk Records on October 6th. Details regarding the upcoming retrospective DVD release on Jeepster and the first single to be taken from "Dear Catastrophe Waitress" coming soon. cheers, Katrina @ Banchory. http://www.banchoryshop.net http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit www.banchoryshop.net/belleandsebastian/list/list.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Mon Sep 1 17:34:42 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:34:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Belle and Sebastian News Mailing List - New Album Release details Message-ID: ROBIN HAS AN ENCOUNTER WITH A SPARROW I dreamt I was a mouse. A mouse with blue shoes. As I scurried through the neighbours' wall on my way to their box of cornflakes I heard a tapping on the window. I looked up and saw a sparrow. A sparrow with a trilby hat. "Squawk!" he said. "Squeak!" I replied. "Hold on a second," he said. "Do you speak English?" "Doesn't everyone these days?" I replied. "Indeed. Hey, you seem like a smart fella, d'ya wanna buy one of these?" He lifted a wing to reveal a row of cheap watches. "Oh, I don't think so," I said. "They're the best quality," he said. "Bulgarian!" "But that one only has numbers up to eight," I spotted, shrewdly. "Oh, well, er.." he paused and pulled at a feather or two. "Well," he said, "How about this then?" He lifted his other wing and revealed a copy of Dear Catastrophe Waitress. "Crikey!" I said. So later on, when I was full on cornflakes, I put it on the stereo. I have to say I liked it quite a lot. The funny thing is, though, that the version I heard was slightly different to the one that Katrina just talked about. The tracks were in a slightly different order for a start, and there was another song called Travellin' Light. The sparrow sold me a dodgy version. I might have known!! It seems quite strange, though, sparrow or no sparrow. My theory is that either Katrina has missed a song out (unlikely, considering the NME doesn't list it either) or there are, in fact, only twelve songs on the album and Travellin' Light has been dropped. I wasn't very keen on it anyway, so I'm quite happy about this. And with all the words about Jesus on the new record (DICKYWUSS, I think) it's no surprise that Stuart has decided 13 is an unlucky number and gone for a holy twelve. Robin x PS: I'm thinking of posting my wild theories on the new album, including a fair few references to some of the songs. If don't want to open your presents until christmas, and think this might spoil it, then don't read it. I'll try to remember to put a warning in the subject line. PPS: Gatefold double vinyl! Oooh!! ROBIN PROPOUNDS SOME WILD AND ILL-THOUGHT-OUT THEORIES THEORY ONE: I think this is the third age of Belle and Sebastian: First Age = Tigermilk > 3..6..9..Seconds of Light Second Age = The Boy With The Arab Strap > Jonathan David Third Age = I'm Waking Up To Us > ? I haven't thought this idea through, really, and so tomorrow it probably won't make any sense and I'm not going to explain it much because it should be self-evident. However, what I think characterises the latest records (the Third Age) is that Murdoch has finally shown that he can write great songs that aren't "typical belle and sebastian songs" yet aren't mere pastiche. The Pinefox is right about I'm Waking Up To Us. THEORY TWO: Struan described the new album as "something old, something new, something borrowed and something blue", and although I'm sure he just made that comment up on the spot I think it's pretty true. Something old: Lord Anthony; Dear Catastrophe Waitress, Wrapped Up In Books Something new: Stay Loose; Piazza, New York Catcher; If You Find Yourself Caught In Love Something borrowed: Stevie and Sarah's songs - what are they called? oh i don't care Something blue: Step Into My Office, Baby I'm not quite sure whether I'd put I'm a Cuckoo in old or new. It's somewhere inbetween. I think it's excellent. I think that if you like I'm Waking Up To Us (ep) you will like Dear Catastrophe Waitress (lp). I'm Waking Up To Us is a great example of a new Murdoch song, with angry, direct lyrics. Marx and Engels is a wonderful example of an old Murdoch song. I Love My Car is a light music-hall number. Struan's songs on the new album follow more-or-less the same pattern. THEORY THREE: Belle and Sebastian have managed to make an album that works as a whole. TWATTYBUS and FISHYCLAP never hung together for me, and were broken by the different styles. The new album (I like the sound of DICKYWUSS) is stronger for its different styles. The orchestral pieces that showpiece Lord Anthony help it fit in where it otherwise wouldn't. I will still probably end up skipping Stevie and Sarah's songs, though. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Mon Sep 1 17:37:27 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:37:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Belle and Sebastian News Mailing List - New Album Release details Message-ID: Oh, and the album cover is on the B+S website, here: http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/ It seems that grumpy waitress has won the day. Rather a shame, I think. R x _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Mon Sep 1 17:44:38 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:44:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: PPPS Message-ID: I accidentally stuck my second post, you know the one i said i would warn you about, to the end of my first one. I am very sorry and feel like a bit of an idiot. My theories were very sketchy and I hadn't really finished writing it. Anyway, debate on my outrageous theories would be welcome, and probably rather funny. Sorry for posting three times in one day. I will go away now. Robin x _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Mon Sep 1 20:43:36 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 19:43:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: jesus on a labrador Message-ID: Hullo again, I'm sorry about my mad spurt of emails earlier, but i have just worked out what caused it. I had a meeting today and took a cup of tea in with me, to help time pass a little more smoothly. Unfortunately for me I had forgotten to take the teabag out of the mug, so by the time i reached the bottom the tea was *super strong*. I think the overdose of tea drove me a little bonkers. I was wandering the corridors with wild eyes, mad feet and shifty fingers. So I think that perhaps explains this whole sorry episode. I would rather forget it all to be honest. Just forget that you ever read them. Pretend that you read something improving instead, like the guide to gentlemens' shirt-wearing etiquette that I am reading at the moment. Never leave your tie on till the last moment when undressing. Remember that. robin xxx _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark.hester at xxx.com Mon Sep 1 21:21:09 2003 From: mark.hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Mio caro assassino Message-ID: <20030901202112.24767.h028.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> Days off eh? You can't beat 'em. This is my second Monday off of three, the first being the bank holiday and the third being another days' leave next week. Ooooh, working a five day week after all that is going to be so, so hard. But there are so many good things I can do on days off that I can't do at work, like going into C!H!A!T! They block it at work, tho this problem can be solved using something called an http tunnel, allegedly. Last night, I went up to LUNDUN to see Stefano's My Dear Killer gig at the Arts Cafe. I nearly didn't get there at all. I left in plenty of time, only to encounter tube train CHAOS which meant that emergency buses were being laid on to take the place of the Circle Line. Unfortunately, my bus driver didn't seem to know where he was supposed to be going and the situation was hardly helped by a lady who sent him in the wrong direction entirely! We were at the Angel Islingon before people realised what was happening and started shouting "You're going the wrong way!" So back down the Pentonville Road we went, past a very old piece of graffiti (No Poll Tax - presumably at least thirteen years old) and back on track (well not literally, although the driver saying "I'm a train" to everyone who tried to board thinking it was a normal bus service was quite amusing). When we finally got to Liverpool Street, I ran in what I thought was the direction of the Toynbee Hall. I would have made a very bad homing pigeon as I got lost in the backstreets of Aldgate and, huffing and puffing, finally made it! After parting with my cash and having something which looked like a cross twixt a snowflake and an anarchist sign drawn on my mitt (has the rubber stamp died a death? I blame the demise of the Brown system) I finally entered the venue. I think I must have missed Stefano's first couple of tunes, but I grabbed a beer and saw Paul Healy standing near the front. For the last number, Stefano summoned a drummer from the audience and they launched into a song which really ROCKED and had a wig-out ending a la European Son to Delmore Schwartz. As Ken would (and did) say, \m/. The second act was also a single person under a group name, Prague - the spirit of White Town (or The The, or insert your own individual-recording-under-group-name here) lives on. Prague is coincidentally where I'm off on my hols in November....I'm spending a day in Bristol beforehand as I'm flying from Lulsgate (Bristol airport). Anyway, third act up was Meets Guitar, who started off as a one piece but became a three piece. The drummer looked a bit like my old Zoology tutor (though didn't share his taste in loud shirts) and played the drums with his arms at a rather odd angle. The singer and guitarist had a shirt which bordered on the C&W in style. I tried to think of another band they sounded like but couldn't...their sound had a bit of a country twang to it (as did the singer's voice, but not with the kind of excesses displayed by the Broken Family Band), they were a bit bluesy in places, the bassline on the last song was interesting - actually the bassist was probably the most musically accomplished of the lot. Then last up were Morose, who swapped instruments about quite a bit, including a squeezebox and a "shakey egg", and played songs which were mostly slow, but not morose. I took the opportunity to go outside and look around between acts...the Arts Cafe is an unusual venue, the buildings round about seem cobbled together in an odd way and display a variety of styles. There is a little sculpture in an archive and a clock tower in a rather unexpected place. Paul told me about a club called Penelope Tree and I told him that Penelope Tree was a sixties model. I've been playing the Felt song of that name today, together with everything else on that comp apart from Index. Robin sent the link to the cover which has been decided upon. I didn't really have a preference between the two....I'm just pleased that the general layout, style and typography of B&S album covers is being preserved despite the label change. And thanks Robin for DICKYWUSS. I'm glad to see that after DICKSWAY, DICKWIPE and (ouch!) DICKSAW someone has come up with something which continues the tradition of trisyllabic, euphonic almostcronyms. Speaking of Robin, does anyone else think the guy in the RAF recruitment adverts on the telly looks a bit like him? I learnt earlier today that Ken doesn't know who Damo Suzuki is - his fall from grace continues...... Yoo Do Right, Mark. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sinkingpie at xxx.com Mon Sep 1 21:51:09 2003 From: sinkingpie at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Peter=20Crick?=) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:51:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Stop coming to my house Message-ID: <20030901205109.66835.qmail@web80604.mail.yahoo.com> So, long time, no post (not that I've ever really posted all that much). ****Music**** I have recently begun buying CD's again - after a large money shortage. Such delights as Godspeed you black emperor and mogwai have made themselves properly known to me. I also obtained the relatively new sigur ros single (with enclosed DVD) which contains two rather marvelous videos (and one i regard as being slightly less good). Also, to my surprise, I found myself enjoying Ryan Adams (very un-belle and sebastian fan-like I know) although I have managed to work out almost exactly who influenced him on every song of the album. On a different note (excuse the pun) I also recieved an early birthday present of a new acoustic guitar. I envisage this of being much use at university which I will shortly be attending... ****University**** I have now been offered a place at the university of nottingham. Any advice on gigs? I hear the rescue rooms are good (camera obscura soon :-)) Is there any form of nottingham massive for sinister folk? ****Girls and stuff (sorry)**** "Now I've been told that I can't be with the person I love simply because we live apart" I remember someone posting a while ago saying something along those lines (seems like a lot of effort to find the exact quote, sorry). I am now afraid that I will be told the same thing tomorrow. Perhaps I shouldn't be so pessimistic, and perhaps if she does say that she'll be right, I don't suppose I really know. I do know that I like her though. A lot. Anyway, I shall leave you there. Peter "Music begins where philosophy ends" (someone who used to lecture at Cambridge in the 17th century) PS. The subject quote is of course the name of a mogwai song, seemed appropriate. ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kg11053 at xxx.com Tue Sep 2 16:26:13 2003 From: kg11053 at xxx.com (Kim Girton) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 08:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: * Eastern Sea C O A S T Gathering * Message-ID: <20030902152613.95777.qmail@web80706.mail.yahoo.com> Well, hello. Didn't know it was me, did you? Enormous thanks to List Mum for letting me out of the nursery in time to post the (apparently protested) final news about the D.C.-area B&S Picnic. I post because I care. Also because contacting me personally is a hassle, and I want to make this hassle-free for all possible attendees. Worry not, Opposition. I'll keep it as condensed as I am able. - Saturday, September 6th, 12noon - Cleveland Park Metro station for meet-ups, thanks to the generosity of Lisa. She'll meet you there and lead you to the picnic site. - Direct-to-site picnickers should aim for Rock Creek Park, Site #1. It's at the corner of Tilden & Park. A map can be found here: http://www.nps.gov/rocr/ppmaps/rocrmap%2Epdf - After-activities include Wag night at the Black Cat. - Any and all are more than welcome. - PLEASE BRING SOMETHING TO SHARE. Foodwise, that is. I will do my best to cover the major food groups, but help would be greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, the park doesn't allow alcoholic beverages, but if you hide yours, they'll never know. For more details, better directions, to help out with food, or to find out where to crash for the night if you need to, please succumb to the hassle of emailing me at kg11053 at yahoo.com. I'll be checking the mail three times as often this week just to make sure everyone is on the same page. Thanks, Listees, for your patience. End of post. Sincerely, Kim __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Wed Sep 3 19:36:22 2003 From: lulou at xxx.org (Linda Kerr) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 19:36:22 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian News Mailing List - RT 25th Anniversary CD details! (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 18:07:41 -0000 From: band at xxx.net To: lulou at crockery.org Subject: Belle and Sebastian News Mailing List - RT 25th Anniversary CD details! Belle & Sebastian have contributed a track to the forthcoming Rough Trade 25th Anniversary album "Stop Me If You Think You’ve Heard This One Before " and have recorded a fabulous cover of the Young Marble Giants track "Final Day". The Anniversary album is released by RT UK on October 20th and RT USA on October 7th and is only £5 / $9.98 - what a bargain!! The record also features covers of old RT artists songs by current RT artists including our mates The Tyde, Adam Green, British Sea Power and The Delays. There is still news on the DVD and single to come! cheers, Katrina @ Banchory. http://www.banchoryshop.net http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit www.banchoryshop.net/belleandsebastian/list/list.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.com Wed Sep 3 19:35:55 2003 From: ian at xxx.com (Ian Connelly) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: lunch with stuart Message-ID: last friday i found an all-caps plea in my inbox from a friend, asking me to tell her what stuart murdoch looked like. i sent off the URLs of two of rachel's photos from the LA show, and quickly got back an exclamation of thanks from my friend. why did she want to know? she was to meet him at the 24th st BART (san francisco's subway) station, which is sort of like saying 'i'll meet you at the transamerica pyramid,' as the station has two outlets above ground (on opposite sides of the street) and is quite large. why was she meeting him? what was he doing back in san francisco? she was to take a few quick photos of him for a magazine she works for. i could come along, she said, if i wanted. but i couldn't. fast forward a few hours. a group of us indie-internet-nerds have a weekly friday lunch gathering at a different restaurant each week. derived from a naughty spoonerism, we call this group 'funch luckers.' my friend the photog is a member, as are about 30 other people. and today's funch was at zeitgeist, a spot popular with motorcyclists and bike messengers that's on the warm fringes of the mission district. it's got a wonderfully unreconstructed patio (dirt and rough-hewn picnic tables) and serves food and beer (beer is perhaps the unifying factor of funch, and has led to many an unproductive friday), and is quite comfortable. somehow my friend convinced stuart to come along to funch. there were about a dozen of us as usual, and i have no idea at all what he thought of it. topics of conversation picked up quickly and changed direction across the table: barbecues, orgies, work, children, guitar solos, friendster.com, radio shows, personal gossip, good natured teasing. all about us, of course. as this post is all about me. stuart was charming and sweet. he was in SF taking a break for an extra week or so, with no partcular plans as far as i could tell. tho i was sitting next to him and fairly ecstatic (i have been on sinister since early 98, i bleeve, got IYFS in 97), i tried not to monopolize him. no one really was, i guess - everyone was sort of chattering with each other as they usually would. he talked about the kcrw show - how the group could barely hear anything thru the headphones at first, how kcrw'd sent someone in at the last second to tell them which words weren't allowed on-air (no idea if 'wank' would be alright). he did quite a good nasal-y american accent. (amusingly,) he brought up playing dvds on laptops and i had to confess to having the fan's own dvd at my house (from the treasure hunt), & having tried all my friends to see which would switch the region on their player so we could watch it. he talked about how his laptop was a good bed-warmer after a dvd on a cold winter night. we gabbed a bit about the aislers set, and about the berkeley show. he was looking for a soccer game on sunday and my pal dan tried to help figure something out, but here i was helpless. my knees, see. i'm glad to see the Other Ian ended up sorting it all out (in a manner of speaking). there's more, isn't there? but i can't really put it all down here. i was a bit giddy, i guess. and i had to go back to work, believe it or not. and the jobless amongst us (about half; sf's economy is tepid at best) stayed to soak up the sun and have a laugh and a beer, happy. it was great to meet stuart and have a bit of a chat with him. i wonder what he thought of us, an odd and sarcastic bunch of nearly-30s-ish people out on a sunny patio on a friday? not much, i'll wager! ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bolshyfeminist at xxx.com Wed Sep 3 20:18:50 2003 From: bolshyfeminist at xxx.com (Heather Swinsco) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 19:18:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Aah! Protest cardies waster Message-ID: Dear Sinister, Apologies for the dire anagram in the subject line. Not the best way to introduce ourselves to you in our first post, but there you go. Our second favourite was �What drastic arse operates?�, so it could have been worse! Just to clarify here, we are two people writing one post, not one person with some sort of multiple personality disorder. Amy has liked Belle & Sebastian for about 4 years now since she heard the Bowlie Weekender set on the radio and fell in love with Stuart�s voice. Since then, she�s been to see them twice, most interestingly last year when she met them at John Peel�s Christmas party. That�s another story really, but needless to say, her most treasured possession is a photograph of her being hugged by Stevie. She can never decide which of their songs she likes best, but she�s pleased to see that Lord Anthony is included on the new album. She likes the sound of a song called �Wrapped up in books� too, but she�s trying not to get her hopes up. After all, a song called �Beyond the sunrise� sounds fairly innocuous until you actually hear it. She�s lurked on and off this list for most of the past 4 years, but has never felt she really had anything to say to 1400 complete strangers that merited posting. In fact, she would have probably never posted at all if Heather hadn�t persuaded her to. Heather was introduced to Belle & Sebastian about two years ago by Amy, while in quiet desperation in the back of a bus en route to a seminar on mechanical engineering that neither of them wanted to go to (just in case you were starting to worry, neither of us are mechanical engineers, we were just misguidedly doing A level physics). She loves them because she can relate to their songs (unlike so much music that�s about�). She loves the list because there are so many other people who obviously feel the same way. We decided to introduce ourselves to you jointly because we found the prospect a little daunting. So here we are, shyly saying hello, holding hands in the corner (it�s not 1995, but rest assured we are just friends). Our motives for posting to the list are twofold. Firstly, we currently abide in Sheffield, which is apparently seeing less picnicking activity than the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. We were wondering if there were any sinisterines or sinisterettes in the vicinity who would be interested in some sort of picnic-based meet up. We would happily provide buns (don�t smirk you besmutterers of the list) and other suitable refreshments, plus, of course, our own delightful company. Secondly, at the end of this month we are both relocating to Edinburgh and were wondering if there was anyone who could advise us as to where a sinister person might go out of an evening to hear some B & S tracks being played. We did search the archives on this subject, but the most recent debate on the issue seemed to be about 5 years old and we feel that it might not be the most up to date information available to us. If anyone can help with our query or wants to express their interest in a picnic, please contact us off list. This e-mail address that we are using is Heather�s and Amy�s is: daisychain.amz at tiscali.co.uk. Sorry for the length; neither of us have ever been noted for our brevity. Thankyou for reading this far. We apologise for waffling and promise that we won�t post very often. We might just go back to lurking; sinister is a nice place to hide and eavesdrop on other people�s lives. Waffly love, Heather and Amy xxx _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Wed Sep 3 20:46:26 2003 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 19:46:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I see your "!!!" and raise you a "GUH?" Message-ID: GayJay Ink Polaroided: "Laura's back. She's walking off with a boy. She seems to like him, but my Spidy Senses are activated. He had a weak handshake and that always bodes ill. And he's burly with the look of a man who's killed a wild animal in his life. I decided to keep an eye on him. But Llew Llooks happy." The last time that Jaykins went about using his free time productively by writing fictional tales of me in New York I believe I requested that he put me in a pair of "smart Manolo Blahniks." What do I get instead? A lecherous looking lad. Oh sure, truth be told, he looked as if he might kill a child if so provoked but I usually seek that out in a boy. I'm guessing that Jay was so mean in his description of a boy he once even referred to as "really cute" because aforementioned boy didn't seem to return my affections after I've had a mad crush on him for four years. I suppose I could do the same - wax on about how you think someone is all love and light and instead they turn out to be full of gravel kisses. Or say that I responded quickly with a, "Not one you'll be tasting again!" before stepping on to the F train to whisk me safely away from Brooklyn when he asked about what kind lipbalm I had on. However, none of that would be true. Perhaps it's the Woody Allen take on the old Groucho Marx joke that I just don't want to belong to any club that would have someone like me for a member which causes rejection to only make me like someone more. But I couldn't say one bad thing about him. Not about his warm brown eyes with those fantastically long lashes that only boys ever seem to have. Or the way my breath would catch just whenever I was around him. Well, once I got up the courage to be around him as the first time he looked my way in a crowded bookstore I dashed away in the other direction because he was the cutest boy I had ever seen and the thought of actually being within five feet of him made me too weak in the knees to do anything but run away. Or the fact that he was just this really quiet clever standoffish bookstore boy who seemed to watch the world just as warily as me and I had this notion that maybe we could just do what we had always done alone - only together. Of course, I might not be able to be so calm about the fact that there's this huge void in my life where four years of incredibly close friendship and crushing have been except for a foxy girl with her hair in a cute bob who was working her specs appeal at the Dorothy Parker festival who held my hand after seeing me so sad. (Mmm, girls with glasses = yum.) By the time, we ended up in her bed with her pulling me in the rejection pains seemed very far away. Yes, that might have speeded up the process indeed. Just as her quite large boyfriend who was - for some reason - quite angry with me expedited my departure from New York that next morning. But I'm still heartbroken. Really, I am. In Belle & Sebastian related and very delayed Prospect Show reporting back news, I'm saddened that something rare and fantastic like Lord Anthony wasn't played at the Prospect Park show. Of course, I've come to realize that I won't be fully happy until I hear them play the exact same set they played at the Bowlie. (I think "Slow Graffitti" is the most ideal opening song.) And, well, have it played in my bedroom. However, at the NY show Stuart did watch his mouth at the end of The Boy With The Arab Strap. He skipped the part about "wanking" because there were children around. Sure those Californians got rare ear candy but I got a glimpse of Stuart's soft side. Hmm, what else? Oh, I went to find the Sinister picnic, only to give up after seeing no one twee enough. Instead, I wandered around Prospect Park aimlessly while listening to wafts of B&S songs drift through as they did their soundcheck. I decided to get in line early so I could get a good spot on the hill when lo & behold the sinister picnic came to me. Only, it wasn't a sinister picnic. It was Bowlie Kids (except for Aruni who is on both. However, I was the only sole sole sinisterine there) who were snotty about the sinister list. I stared at my shoes a lot. Thus, I'm still quite perplexed about why everyone is always so excited about these sinister picnics, even if my favorite sinisterine did happen to be there. Later, I was joined by two other of my most beloved Sinisterines as I got to see the show with GayJay & Eric. It wasn't the best performed show I've ever been to but it was definitely the one I've enjoyed the most - as it was just lovely to listen to one of my beloved groups while sitting on the grass eyeing a foxylicious gayboy (who brought bubbles to the show!) out of the corner of my eye while sitting under the trees. Plus, afterwards I met up with my favorite person in the entire world whose birthday was that day so I was completely charmed that I got to spend at least a few minutes with him. Jay was right about one thing in his ink polaroid - I was happy. (At least, until my heart was ripped out and STOMPED STOMPED STOMPED a few days later.) pretty in pink, Ll ps - I adore the new album's new cover. Then again, I'm a sucker for orange... and girls with short dark hair.. and Well, yeah - I like it. _________________________________________________________________ Help protect your PC: Get a free online virus scan at McAfee.com. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Thu Sep 4 13:29:09 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 12:29:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: News: 'Fans Only' Message-ID: The other day I fell out of bed and flew into my chest of drawers, knocking loads of things off onto my head. When I was at work I realised there was an intruder in my shoe, snug underneath the arch of my foot. I took off my shoe (my lovely NEW shoe which came with a free SHOEHORN) and inside was a belle and sebastian button badge. A little boy with two fingers in the air. Anyway, enough of that. Here's the news: : : : : : : : Belle and Sebastian's "Fans Only" retrospective DVD compilation will be released by Jeepster Recordings in the UK/Europe on October 20th 2003, catalogue number JPRDVD001. The DVD is a record of the development of Belle & Sebastian during their time with Jeepster, from '...Sinister' to 'Storytelling'. Featuring videos, live performances, interviews, out-takes, tv appearances, early documentary footage, exclusive material and behind the scenes insights into the evolution of the band. It was compiled by Glasgow-based film maker Blair Young and the band over the last 8 months and will now only be released on DVD, and not VHS too as originally planned. For details of your local distributor of the DVD please visit the *new* Jeepster website at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/distributors.htm News on the single still to come ... cheers, Katrina @ Banchory. http://www.banchoryshop.net http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home : : : : : : : I read somewhere that the DVD will include 52 songs. Is this every song they released on Jeepster? And I think Sr Trenzano has a scoop on the forthcoming single, but I'll leave it up to him to tell all. robinx PS: Hello Heather and Amy; Wrapped Up In Books is indeed a lovely song. _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Fri Sep 5 08:05:39 2003 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 00:05:39 -0700 Subject: Sinister: My B&S Article Message-ID: <004801c3737c$1d6b3510$0a0110ac@pavilion> Hi All, Sorry I've been out of touch lately. But I thought one or two of you might be interested in the most recent music column that I've written for our local Santa Barbara weekly: www.homestead.com/brier/indy.html (scroll to the bottom) It's about the Berkeley show, and the new album. Rachel Cornflake, were you there?? Ben, I looked for you but didn't see! Anyway, love to you all, ~Brier +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jlhill81 at xxx.com Fri Sep 5 15:55:36 2003 From: jlhill81 at xxx.com (Joanne Hill) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:55:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I went under the covers with a torch Message-ID: Long time no speak, Sinister...on my part at least. I've been scared off posting for months, deciding that nothing I could say would be of interest. I got lured away to the "other B&S list". But I've been encouraged to come out of hiding, talking to Heather and Amy. I kind of have a reason to post this time, it's only very remotely Belle and Seb related, and has to do with my new clubnight which is starting, in Macclesfield, on 26th September. It's called Dolly Mixtures and will feature indie, soul, psych, punk and miscelaneous other items from the 60s onwards. I'm really pleased I've managed to get this sorted out, if it's successful the club will have me back and it'll be a regular thing. It's at a place called 'That Bar'. It would be great to see any of you, but I doubt that will happen. It's been a summer wasted. I've spent my time reading books on the Canadian film industry and listening to people rant about Nickelback and Shania Twain and other bad things to come from the True North (Canadian pop culture dissertation...10,000 words...I haven't left Canada behind yet despite five months back home), looking out for nice boys and not really finding many (although it is, of course, the quality not the quantity thats counts), and dreaming of Toronto. I miss the bity city rush and always having something to do, or being able to find something to do on an empty day. I miss streetcars and tall shiny buildings and cheap Canadian beer. I even miss the vain mods, with their Fred Perry shirts and drainpipes, or go go boots and bum-skimming dresses. But only because wherever they go, good music is bound to follow. A friend who also went over there says we have to go back when we finish uni, and live there for a bit. It looks likely. But in the meantime I've got my 4th year to contend with, and it will be much fun. I was at the Interpol gig last month at Manchester Academy, I didn't see any of you there, though I had on my yellow B&S badge, in hope. I did see a boy who looked very like the Sergeant Pepper's era John Lennon. Franz Ferdinand were the support, their music was very funny and danceable, I'll certainly hunt their album down when it comes out. Thats enough from me. Hello to Jason and Dirty Vicar and anyone else I've ever spoken to. Joanne _________________________________________________________________ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Sun Sep 7 09:49:28 2003 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 01:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: News: 'Fans Only' Message-ID: <20030907084928.17715.h005.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> > And I think Sr Trenzano has a scoop on the forthcoming single, but I'll > leave it up to him to tell all. > Who, me ? oh, I should use the usual sentence of "I know nothing, I come from barcelona" regarding that myth of contemporary TV that is "Fawlty towers". However, and hoping that miss Katrina doesn't spank me, let me reveal that I interviewed Chris & Richard a few days ago, and looks like "Step into my office baby" will feature @Desperation made a fool of me" and "Love in the march" as b-sides. I have to leave now, my credit on a BELGIAN internet CAFE is running out Take care ! Jordiet ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ann_septimus at xxx.com Sun Sep 7 18:44:54 2003 From: ann_septimus at xxx.com (Ann Foreyt) Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:44:54 -0700 Subject: Sinister: schooling's made a fool of me Message-ID: Hello, Sinister- I know I don't write very often, but I have a question for you now, so I hope it's alright that I'm using this forum. So, ummm, *clears throat and shuffles* here goes: Next year I want to (am dying to) study abroad, in the UK. My school does offer a program that could send me to Oxford, but a lot of my friends are going to do that and as much as I love them all, I don't want to fly across an ocean to see the same people on campus. I want to be able to strike out on my own - find a school, find a life independently... and see them on weekends and holidays. Also, the idea of joining an exchange 'program' doesn't exactly appeal to me, as I would rather just integrate myself into the community... by myself. Yes, Oxford would be a dream (Sebastian Flyte! Charles Ryder!), but I know that a lot of you have had various experiences with a myriad of Scottish and British colleges and I was wondering if any of you have any words of wisdom. How are University of Edinburgh and University of Glasgow? My major is biology and the subjects that I love are microbiology and English, both lit and creative writing (painful juxtaposition, I know... double majoring is NOT working). As you can see, I'm rather aiming towards Scotland (no there WOULDN'T be a reason for that heh heh heh heh), but anywhere in England is still open. So, yeah... if any of you lovely people could help me out at all, I would be forever indebted to you. merci~ Ann AIM: quiet faery kid _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with MSN Messenger 6.0 -- download now! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_general +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.com Mon Sep 8 11:21:11 2003 From: jasonandreas at xxx.com (Jason Andreas) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:21:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Fw: Belle and Sebastian News Mailing List - Mark & Lard play today! Message-ID: <003601c375f2$ed66ab50$3a828451@CPQ18620821616> FYI ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 12:01 PM Subject: Belle and Sebastian News Mailing List - Mark & Lard play today! > Hi all, > > We wanted to let you know that the first play of Belle & Sebastian's new > single "Step Into My Office, Baby" taken from the forthcoming album "Dear > Catastrophe Waitress" will be on BBC Radio One's afternoon programme with > Mark and Lard TODAY (September 8th) between 1.00pm and 3.00pm British > Summer Time. > > Tune into Radio One online at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio1.shtml > > cheers, > Katrina @ Banchory. > > http://www.dearcatastrophewaitress.com > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit > www.banchoryshop.net/belleandsebastian/list/list.asp > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trixiefirecracker79 at xxx.com Tue Sep 9 07:36:34 2003 From: trixiefirecracker79 at xxx.com (trixie firecracker) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 02:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Lucid Lesbian Longings for Laura Llew Message-ID: <20030909063634.B6E70299BB@xmxpita.excite.com> Jeez, I stop reading my Sinister-mails for a week and a half and look what happens: >>I just read in this month's Utne Reader that statistically Australian girls are most likely to put out on the first date. WHat does this mean for Miss Trixie Firecracker and her recent night out? I can only wonder.<< !! I get called a hussy! What exactly are you trying to say about me, Jay? I am in fact quite a demure and shy lady (though the rest of this post may perhaps challenge that image). Anyway, I know you're all really reading this because of the titillating subject line and not for my indignation at Jay's insinuations, so here goes. Last weekend I had a dream. Featured in this dream was the one and only Miss Laura Llew looking lovely as always, and, I must say, especially hott and sexxy too. I have forgotten pretty much all of this dream, I can't recall a storyline or plot or even a location. There was one bit that stuck with me though, the part where I KISSED LAURA. !! That's right kids, myself and Llew locking lips. I must say that she is a Very Good Kisser too. Boys (especially Chubby Jewish ones covered in chocolate) and Girls With Glasses* take note. That's right Sinisters, I have started having dreams about YOU. No one is safe. A few weeks ago I dreamt about GayJay. He was painting a chair which he then sat on while the paint was still wet. Silly boy. Then I had a dream about Jayward (who is not strictly a Sinister boy I know, but he is a #sinister boy and that is close enough) looking very suave. I wonder who it will be next? Any suggestions? My subconscious is a fun place to hang out, really. Don't be afraid. I have also dreamt of Miss Marianna from time to time, but then I have known her for quite a while... and I've never been engaged in a nocturnal pash with her, in dream or reality (which, I am sure those of you who can vouch for her foxxiness would agree, is quite my loss). However, Miss M is currently travelling around the world, and she will be stopping in Melbourne VERY SOON. Perhaps my chance has come at last? Enough of that sauciness. Here are some belated non-saucy things which I would like to belatedly say: 1. A Very Long Time Ago there was a picnic in Melbourne. No one -- as far as I can remember -- Reported Back. Shame on us Melbourne-Sinisters. So yeah, we had some kids show up, and since most everyone likes seeing their name in Sinister-posts**, this is who was there: Longest Lurker Jim, Amiable Amy, Important Visitors from New Zealand Lawrence and his lovely wife, Honorary Sinisterine Vanessa, and Surprise Special Guest Star Neil Robertson. Unfortunately*** Miss Julie and Mr David were out of town that weekend (probably rock climbing or some such thing, silly kids), so they were unable to attend. On a side note, of course as you all know, these two are now Mr and Mrs Julie&David -- a belated congratulations to the pair of you. 2. Many many twee/fey/decidedly non-twee or fey thank yous must be relayed to the terrific Terry Underwear for his masterful organisation of the great Sinister Oz Tape Exchange. I received a wonderful compilation from Miss Alex and I must say she is highly talented in the art of mix-tape making, packaging and all. Thank you! I am hoping there might be another round of this soon, perhaps extending over to New Zealand as well? Terry? Of course I would like to say something about the new Belle & Sebastian album, but I think I've already taken up too much of your precious time, so I'll get back to catching up on my emails and leave those comments for another day. much dream-time love to you all Trixie.xx * Actually Laura, did I ever mention to you that I wear glasses sometimes... /me bats eyelashes ** Except of course when they're being labeled as EASY. /me grrrrs at GayJay *** Then again, some might view this as being a fortunate occurrence given the *ahem* history of the mentioned parties. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Tue Sep 9 09:52:57 2003 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 15:52:57 +0700 Subject: Sinister: May I Propose a Post? Message-ID: INTRODUCTION hello everyone, LITERATURE REVIEW i've been thinking of writing to sinister for a while, but circumstances have conspired against me. well in truth I've just been too lazy, but I prefer a lame excuse to the truth anyday. I have been enjoying the plethora of perfect posts lately, especially those of Mr Robin Stout. I know I'm not the only one on sinister who thinks he's a bit of alright. A big bit of alright at that. >the lovely Miss Trixie Firecracker said: >Actually Laura, did I ever mention to you that I wear >glasses sometimes... /me bats eyelashes I wear glasses sometimes too Laura! And having seen Trixie's eyelashes, I can confidently say that mine are much longer and sexier. Not that Trixie's eyelashes aren't perfectly lovely... METHOD I purchased a Hello Kitty badge maker a couple of months ago, and after a few initial dramas (ie plastic bit snapping) I ended up making about 120 badges. Today I packed up my pin-up board and headed on down to the uni markets to sell my wares. About an hour had passed and there wasn't a whole heap of badge selling going on. In fact there was no badge selling going on. This may have had something to do with he fact I was listening to a discman, reading a book, looking scared, and not really getting into the whole customer service thing. But then inspiration came via satellite - twas a text message from the lovely Miss Helen, suggesting I raise the corners of my mouth and show my teeth to customers. After a few mishaps (customers seemed to be scared when I showed them my fillings), I soon learnt that a slight uprising of the lips does wonders. At exactly 10:20 a likely looking boy wandered over to my stall, his lapel resplendent with badges. This boy is going to pay f! or my lunch I thought to myself. Unfortunately he refused to buy me lunch, not even a coffee, but he did buy FIVE badges. I was overjoyed - hours of flicking through my old Select's looking for nice badge pictures had paid off. Well kind of. Over the next couple of hours I sold about 20 more. At 12 RTR-FM (local Perth radio station who play good music) started broadcasting from the markets, and they commented on air about the bored looking boy selling badges and CD's. Seizing the opportunity I went over and requested Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie, and they put it on and funly made fun of my lack of customers. Unfortunately the song didn't have the effect I had hoped for, namely everyone stopping what they were doing and dancing, but Helen (who had joined me for lunch) and I got to nod our heads for a few minutes. Plus I got some free advertising from the lovely RTR folk. Business was a little slow for the rest of the day, but I ended up selling around 30 badges for a grand profit of $48.90. Which ain't so bad. RESULTS Thanks to all those Oz Tape X-Changers, I hope everyone has received their tape/CD. If y'all let me know that you're interested in Round 2, say the word and I shall draw arrows connecting people on a piece of thin white cardboard. If anyone else in Australia or New Zealand wants to join in the fun just say the word and you too will have an arrow pointing to your name on the aforementioned piece of thin white cardboard. DISCUSSION As Perth is currently being graced by the presence of Miss Marianna, it only seems right that there should be some kind of event ending in nic. May I propose a pubnic this Friday (the 12th), maybe followed by some bowling action? Let me know Perth people. CONCLUSION love, terry REFERENCES here's what i think: http://naivetysucceeds.blogspot.com caitlin and terry's sinister recipe tree archives: http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/sinifood/ ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.bartilson at xxx.com Tue Sep 9 21:33:15 2003 From: alexander.bartilson at xxx.com (Alexander Bartilson) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 22:33:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Sinister: Lisbon Message-ID: <200309092033.h89KXF324380@d1o888.telia.com> Hi, I've spent the summer lurking but as the release date of the new B&S album is approaching I rise above the lurking surface for this small call for help. The thing is that a friend of mine is going to Lisbon in about two weeks and is planning to stay there for 5 months (to study). If I'm not mistaken there are some Portugeese people on this list. The thing is that he doesn't really have a place to stay in Lisboa. So if anybody has a flat or anything to rent for the next 5 month that would make my friend extremely happy. But I guess that's a bit of a high aim. So I'm also asking if there is anybody who could recommend a cheap and good youth hostel in Lisboa (preferable near the Eduardo VII park) where my friend could stay for the first few days when he looking for a more permanent place to stay. Thanks in advance. ///Alexander +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pesusich71 at xxx.com Tue Sep 9 22:34:07 2003 From: Pesusich71 at xxx.com (Pesusich71 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 17:34:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: B&S's L.A. Treasure Hunt Reprise Message-ID: <0CE25CBF.5B06F474.0C55E594@aol.com> Hey all (or mainly the L.A. B&S fans) - I just subscribed to Sinister a fortnight ago and wasn't able to post until now. Anyways, I was just wondering about the L.A. Treasure Hunt. I got most of the scoop & pictures from one a few emails, but there were a couple questions that were still lingering if anyone here knows: 1.Was the final destination at Iguana Vintage clothing? 2.What time did the winners get to the final location? (we got to iguana vintage clothing (our guess of the final place)at 8.40pm. the store closed at 8pm) 3.any other odd/ cool things to mention about the treasure hunt? anyways, we had fun doing it. the galaxy theatre one stumped us the longest. the daily planet on franklin was good (we knew where to go and we kept on a lookout for anything superman related.) the other ones were good and fell into place nicely for us. sleeping the clock around, Jawn +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tsugi at xxx.com Wed Sep 10 07:54:05 2003 From: tsugi at xxx.com (Tsugi Tanaka) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 23:54:05 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Greeting Message-ID: <004f01c37768$56b80330$5719fea9@perro> Hello all, I joined right after the LA live and finally 2 week waiting time is over! The live was just GREAT. It was my first B & S live and I was very lucky to be able to share their beautiful music. Just wanted to give a quick greeting to everyone. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Thu Sep 11 13:49:44 2003 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:49:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: take me out to the sinister ball game Message-ID: hey guys and dolls behavin? i don't know about you, but i've spent way too much of my summer indoors. and now, as it fades into autumn once again and the nights become longer and the days become colder and leaves fall and rot in smelly heaps, i'm all 'let's do something!' you know? my co-conspirator in all things american has returned - yipppeeee! - so now i can finally organise a proper baseball game. YUP! forget the footie for a moment - the great american pasttime will be making its official glasgow debut! well, disregarding my last lame attempt to get a few people together with bat and ball (good practice, eh?), and the rumoured indie all-star games of yore, of which i was not a part. so grab your best athletic apparel and ugliest trainers, glasgow sinister massive, and meet me at BELLAHOUSTON PARK on SUNDAY at TWO O'CLOCK. that even means you, shy lurker who has not yet managed to infiltrate the woodside. and bring a friend or two. it's about time we expanded our horizons and met new people. i'll provide the bat and some balls - soft ones so you need no glove to catch. i recommend bringing water and a hat and sunscreen. don't worry if you're not the fittest, nor if you've ever played before. our out-of-shape clueless shenanigans will be half the fun!!! even if you ultimately decide not to play, bring a blanket and some pom poms and maybe some potato salad or something and support your favorite team. if you need directions, or to get my mobile number so you can find us or whatever, email me off list. email me anyway to say if you're coming, or just to say hello. i haven't spoken to many of you in a long time. hope to see loads of you there. and hell, even if you're not in glasgow, maybe you can organise your own games. baseball=fun. bye bye! -stacey _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com Thu Sep 11 15:18:33 2003 From: paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com (Paulo Stinsoni) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 14:18:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Fancy a quickie? Message-ID: A quick post, that is Hello y'all, I'll be popping up to Glasgow on 27th September, and I was wondering if there was a nice friendly indie night thing on that Saturday that I could go to. There's nothing in Darlington, the kids get excited about Safeways' car park for god's sake. Thanks my pretties Paul - oh _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From benapps at xxx.com Thu Sep 11 20:06:24 2003 From: benapps at xxx.com (Ben Apps) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:06:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: take me out to the sinister ball game Message-ID: What a co-inky-dink! Just as Stacey is organising a UK baseball extravaganza I'm about to attend my first Dodgers game tomorrow! They're even giving out free bobble heads! In parallel unviverse type news I've been trying to teach some American buddies the intricacies of Cricket - with a proper "corky" ball and everything. I've been pleasantly suprised by their progress, though some still have a tendancy to throw rather than bowl, but I'm sure we'll work it out. Maybe one day there'll be a sinister world series. Oh and does anyone have any idea why Travellin' Light seems to be on the track listing for the US version of DICKYWUSS but not on the UK one? Answers on a naughty postcard...... ta ta Ben P.S. - I read this line in Stacey's post: >if you ultimately decide not to play, bring a blanket and some pom as: >if you ultimately decide not to play, bring a blanket and some PORN _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trixiefirecracker79 at xxx.com Fri Sep 12 02:49:40 2003 From: trixiefirecracker79 at xxx.com (trixie firecracker) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:49:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Ex-Sinister boy, New York Tabber Message-ID: <20030912014940.E536AB716@xmxpita.excite.com> Dear Sinister, Though I feel slightly naughty, I have been listening to the new Belle & Sebastian album for the past few days. This is not normal behaviour for me. Usually I like to wait for the official release -- when I am able to hold the cd/record in my hands, artwork and all -- before listening to a new album in its entirety*. I plead temporary insanity in this case, as the illegally-downloaded-and-burnt-onto-a-cd copy was forced upon me by a cute chubby Jewish boy with an American accent. I can't say no to accented boys, especially Jewish ones. I don't know how many others have been naughty too, but I hope you are all enjoying it as much as I am. I have been waking up in the mornings with 'Wrapped up in Books' stuck in my head. A totally brilliant way to start the day. That bit where Stuart sings "I will wrap my arms around you" with Sarah harmonising, and then when Stevie chimes in... phwor! Makes me swoon every time. On an entirely different note: We all know how much indie kids and hipsters in general love Pirates and Ninjas**, but are you aware that there is an INTERNATIONAL TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY? That's right! And it's NEXT WEEK! http://www.talklikeapirate.com/ Arrr me hearties! trixie.x *And of course I shall be running down to JB Hi Fi to purchase DICKYWUSS the day it is released. **And now ZOMBIES too. Zombies are the new Pirates and Ninjas you know. (I am sure you do know.) P.S. The aforementioned American boy (a former Sinisterine himself) has asked me to send you all this guitar tab for 'Piazza, New York Catcher'. So here it is. >> Belle and Sebastian Piazza, New York Catcher from Dear Catastrophe Waitress tabbed by jw - mysterysquad at letterboxes.org Unsure about a lot of the lyrics here. Questionable lyrics in parenthesis. Intro F# F# B F# (elope with me in private) and well sail around the world G#m D#m i would be your ferdinand and you my wayward girl G#m C# how many nights of talking in motel rooms can you take? G#m C# how many nights of limping round on pagan holidays? B D#m oh elope with me in private and we'll set something ablaze G#m C# D#m a trail for the devil to erase F# B F# san francisco's calling us the giants and mets will play G#m D#m piazza new york catcher are you straight or are you gay G#m C# we hung about the stadium we got no place to stay G#m C# we hung about the tenderloin and tenderly you tell B D#m about the saddest book you ever read it always makes you cry G#m C# D#m the statues crying too and willy mays F# B F# i love you (???) grip and your adoring face G#m D#m i love you my responsibility has found a (place) G#m C# besides you in strong mornings in the guise of gentle words G#m C# come wave upon me from your (family wasn't that absurd) B D#m youll take care of her i know it you will do a better job G#m C# D#m maybe but not what she deserves F# B F# (elope with me in private) and well drink ourselves away G#m D#m ill taste the coffee houses and the (award certificates) G#m C# a groovy suit to keep the feel of 1960s style G#m C# we'll comment on the decor and we'll help a passerby B D#m and at dusk when work is over we'll continue the debate G#m C# D#m in a bar (o bedroom virginal despair) F# B F# the catcher hits for .318 and catches every day G#m D#m the pitcher puts religion first then rest and holidays G#m C# he goes into cathedrals and lies (prostrate) on the floor G#m C# he knows the drink affects his speed hes praying for a doorway B D#m back into the life he wants that confession of the bench G#m C# D#m life outside the diamond is a wrench F# B F# i wish that you were here with me to pass the dull weekend G#m D#m i know it wouldn't come to love my heroine pretend G#m C# (ill lead a stepping from a stone) we love until this day G#m C# we settle for another (tough like walk away rene) B D#m the sun upon the roof in winter will draw you out like a flower G#m C# D#m ill meet you at the statue in an hour x2 _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terryunderwear at xxx.com Fri Sep 12 07:55:35 2003 From: terryunderwear at xxx.com (terry underwear) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 13:55:35 +0700 Subject: Sinister: PaPaPa Perth Pubnic Action Message-ID: hello, tonight (friday) there will be a Perth pubnic. we will be meeting at the Moon and Sixpence in the city at approximately 8pm (I'm sure you'll be able to spot us), then we shall drink some kind of liquid, most probably alcoholic. At around 11pm we will making our way down to the Fairlanes Bowling Centre to play a game, most probably bowling. As if that isn't enough to entice all you Perth sinister people I'm not aware of (or haven't seen in ages), Marianna will be making a special guest appearance. And you can also see my *new* shoes. I'll even let you touch them (the shoes that is, not Marianna). If you are confused about anything at all (where the pub is, what we look like, what direction your life is headed in, why it can rain even when the sky is blue), call me on 0422516549. love, terry --- here's what i think: http://naivetysucceeds.blogspot.com caitlin and terry's sinister recipe tree archives: http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/sinifood/ ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From raskolnikoff_01 at xxx.com Fri Sep 12 15:27:13 2003 From: raskolnikoff_01 at xxx.com (Rask) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 15:27:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: They will bind you with love that is green and graceful as a stem Message-ID: This post is dedicated to quiet refusals loud refusals and sad refusals I dedicate it to the imminent market collapse to carpenters waitresses and drug addicts to the boys kissing boys girls kissing girls girls kissing boys and everything in between I dedicate it to any endeavour who's ultimate unreasonable goal is autonomy self-determination or joy I dedicate it to every prisoner in the world I dedicate it to the memory of Johnny Cash I dedicate it to the fact that the only decent output Stuart Murdoch can muster is his online diary these days. I dedicate it to the Iraqi and Afghan children that die at the hands of international western state sponsored terrorism Merry belated September 11th folks/keep reaching for that rainbow Mr Bush Rask(olnikoff) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From emalineswine at xxx.com Sun Sep 14 02:53:52 2003 From: emalineswine at xxx.com (emily) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 18:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Emma was a teenage rebel Message-ID: <20030914015352.22199.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> Well, since I'm new I thought I'd finally introduce myself to the group. Hello My name's Emily. You can call me Emma (so much more British).. I'm a yank. I've lived in the San Francisco area since I was 2. I saw B&S at the Greek in Berkeley and had a spectacular time. I've listened to Belle & Sebastian for years, I started with Tigermilk and I fell in love. I go to art school where I study Fine Art painting and drawing. You may see my work here if you like: http://www.geocities.com/emalineswine/drawings.html I've also danced ballet for over 8 years(http://www.geocities.com/emalineswine/ballet.html), play guitar (poorly), sing, write songs.. and a whole bunch of creative mumbo jumbo. If you tool around my site long enough, you might be able to find some aforementioned mumbo jumbo. I've also been to 9 countries in Europe and speak French and some Italian. I'm in love with Euro accents. I've recently developed an enormous affinity for Scottish accents (go figure).. So if anyone wants to woo me, it's pretty easy if you have an accent.. Oh, and it's even easier if you're Stuart Murdoch. However, I'd probably fall asleep with ants in my pants. Happy Weekend, Emma p.s. hope URLs aren't illegal here. they're safe.. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Mon Sep 15 19:04:21 2003 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:04:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the past is yours Message-ID: apparently Isobel Campbell has recorded a new album, AND it's coming out on October 7th. isn't that also when DCW is coming out? I am very excited by this clash of the titans. It will be like the Blur v. Oasis of our times. Here is an article about Isabel's new album, complete with a lovely picture of her: http://www.sacksco.com/roster/isobel/isobel_rls.html Meanwhile, I remain too busy/useless to correspond with my special off-list Sinister friends. Please forgive me. But in another exciting development, I'm thinking strongly of flying to Glasgow to see the Aislers Set in mid October. I'm not actually *that* fond of the Aislers (although they are sufficiently good that I would go and see them if they played in sunny Dublin), but I do fancy the idea of a weekend in Scotland. Maybe I will meet some of you and hang out and stuff. later, later, DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From psi_fla at xxx.com Mon Sep 15 20:55:53 2003 From: psi_fla at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Simon=20Fallaha?=) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:55:53 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: the past is yours In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030915195553.41461.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> Well spotted DV. And I have to admit, that is a VERY nice picture. Yes, I'm talking about Isobel. I'm a little bit curious about what her new album will be like - every time I listen to Fold Your Hands Child I'm always reminded that she made an especially strong contribution. Speaking of FYHC, it took time to grow on me... As did Teachers. Only when season 3 began have I been watching it, and every show (bar last week's) has been very good/excellent. Am I the only one, though, who thinks Penny is getting more irritating every week? (Then again, this could be intentional) I've almost forgotten to say that this is my first post in nearly a year. My placement definitely kept me busy. Things are a little easier now though, and it's concert time in a couple of days, Ocean Colour Scene in Belfast to be exact. Hopefully it will be as good, if not better than the cracking Tim Burgess gig I was at last week. (More on that will follow later, time permitting) See you all later Psi --- Dirty Vicar wrote: > apparently Isobel Campbell has recorded a new album, > AND it's coming out on > October 7th. > > isn't that also when DCW is coming out? I am very > excited by this clash of > the titans. It will be like the Blur v. Oasis of our > times. > > Here is an article about Isabel's new album, > complete with a lovely picture > of her: > http://www.sacksco.com/roster/isobel/isobel_rls.html > > Meanwhile, I remain too busy/useless to correspond > with my special off-list > Sinister friends. Please forgive me. > > But in another exciting development, I'm thinking > strongly of flying to > Glasgow to see the Aislers Set in mid October. I'm > not actually *that* fond > of the Aislers (although they are sufficiently good > that I would go and see > them if they played in sunny Dublin), but I do fancy > the idea of a weekend > in Scotland. Maybe I will meet some of you and hang > out and stuff. > > later, later, > > DV > > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister > mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail > sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe > sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: > http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart > david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly > deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - > NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List > organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" > - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee > kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan > slut! +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Wed Sep 17 02:04:29 2003 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 01:04:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: scott gorham wltm similar for indie pop side project In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello everybody. Bit quiet round here, isn't it? Funny considering there's a new record imminent and all. I hear Stuart's going to celebrate its launch by chairing a pub quiz at the next NPL. Sounds like fun. Anyway, I have this traffic tracker device thingy on the How Does It Feel website and it tells me what people have typed into Google to end up in my tiny corner of the net. I thought you might be interested in the last few searches that resulted in people going to the HDIF weblog. There's one in particular that someone here might like to know about.   28 Aug, Thu, 09:16:50     Google:  kjartan cute     28 Aug, Thu, 21:46:40     Google:  "bar oporto" endell home page     29 Aug, Fri, 16:23:28     Google:  jonsi "sigur ros" interview     03 Sep, Wed, 16:30:57     Yahoo:  dolly wilde kensal green     03 Sep, Wed, 20:44:39     MSN Search:  how long does it take to fall in love     04 Sep, Thu, 21:29:50     Google:  THE SEA URCHINS + INDIE     06 Sep, Sat, 07:13:10     Google:  javis hope sandoval     08 Sep, Mon, 02:04:49     Google:  sirkus photos iceland     09 Sep, Tue, 04:15:48     Google:  ken chu+girlfriend     10 Sep, Wed, 02:46:59     Google:  kristen hersh "your ghost" "i think last night you were running circles around me" lyrics     10 Sep, Wed, 15:34:10     MSN Search:  the garage magaluf     11 Sep, Thu, 15:49:20     Google:  shangri las past present future     12 Sep, Fri, 17:46:41     Yahoo:  Swedish Morrissey and Smiths fan-club     15 Sep, Mon, 21:32:03     Google:  pristine christine mp3     16 Sep, Tue, 08:57:01     Google:  "what to do with myself" sinatra "like a summer rose"     16 Sep, Tue, 16:03:00     Yahoo:  manu chou + lyrics     16 Sep, Tue, 16:21:02     Google:  "field mice" "end of the affair" lyrics "this is the end"   My, looks like someone has an admirer. See some of you Friday. x ps - How great a rhyme is "I'd rather be in Tokyo/I'd rather listen to Thin LIzzy-o"? Using that method, hey, anything can rhyme. Fantastico! pps - A new series of Secret Life Of Us! Hurrah. The only reason I'm not watching it right now is I'm videoing the double bill to watch tomorrow night with my girl. We saw a bit of this series being filmed when we were in St Kilda about a year and a half ago. The tall serious guy in the suit who'd had the baby was sitting outside a cafe on the corner. It was one of those great "hey, we really are on the other side of the planet" moments. We couldn't stop laughing. I hope we didn't ruin any takes. ppps - the other great "hey, we really are on the other side of the planet" moment was seeing the Sydney Opera House for the first time. I actually felt upside down. It was so strange. Quite a landmark in my life in fact - I knew then and there that this was the furthest away I'd ever get from home and everything from then on was simply retracing my steps. I know there's probably places that are further away from London, but the Sydney Opera House is the furthest away Iconic Thing. It's hard to explain. But it was an amazing feeling, for sure. pppps - have I mentioned that before? Sorry if so. It's the Thin Lizzy in my head. It does funny things to you, you know.... http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tsugi at xxx.com Wed Sep 17 10:06:49 2003 From: tsugi at xxx.com (Tsugi Tanaka) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 02:06:49 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Looking forward to the new album Message-ID: <005e01c37cfb$0b8ef6a0$5719fea9@perro> I am very excited about the new album and hope the songs are great as before. Let me introduce a little bit about myself since I did not last time. I grew up in Japan and now live in Los Angeles, CA. I got to know B & S because a friend of mine introduced their music to me, and I really got hooked on the beautiful songs they create. I wish I could create music like that myself, maybe I can start from learning how to play harmonica. I am also an artist like Emily (you had some cool stuff on you site.), but I am more into 3D CG, then started to emphasize more on traditional art skills lately. (here are some of my works here). I am going back to Japan in the end of November, but will still be listening to B & S music hoping that they will come to Japan again. That is a quick introduction of myself and I would love to hear more about other people. Sorry about my bad English, Tsugi Tanaka +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tsugi at xxx.com Wed Sep 17 10:58:47 2003 From: tsugi at xxx.com (Tsugi Tanaka) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 02:58:47 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Link Message-ID: <00aa01c37d02$4ceea260$5719fea9@perro> Sorry about the link, here it is. http://www.tsugi.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Wed Sep 17 11:59:39 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 10:59:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm a Cuckoo - Exclusive!! Message-ID: LIES ==== I was behind the skirting board, tap-dancing in my little blue shoes, when the sparrow in the trilby hat appeared at my mousehole. He said to me, "Psst! Are you a fan of DICKYWUSS??" I said, "Well, to be honest, I'm sure you're very nice, but we've only just met." He said, "No, stupid mouse, the new Belle and Sebastian album. I can sell you some lyrics if you want them." I said, "Oh, well, okay then. What do you want for them?" He said, "Acorns." So I gave him some acorns and he went away. Sparrows are odd, sometimes. The album makes so much sense now I can understand the lyrics properly. For instance, I thought I'm a Cuckoo was all about Thin Lizzy, but in fact it turns out it's not at all. Well, see for yourselves. ++++++++++++ I'm a Cuckoo ++++++++++++ I'm a postman, I'm a postman, I hear your husband's in Morocco. It's half past eight, I'm running through your gate, I've got a firm grip on your knocker. I'm a milkman, I'm a milkman, We'll have white tea in two mugs. Your kettle steams, I've got full cream, It's time to get out your jugs. instrumental: sound of a cuckoo being spun on a record player at 45 rpm, while Stuart reads a passage from "Tractors Monthly". Oh dear here comes the vicar, I feel like such a sinner. Oh dear here comes the vicar, I think I'll have chips for dinner. instrumental: sound of a starling being spun on a record player at 78 rpm, while Stuart reads a passage from "Camping and Caravaning Magazine". I'm a cuckoo, I'm a cuckoo, I'm in your nest, eating your bread. I'm a sinner, I'm a cheater, I'm in your wife's half of the bed. +++++ So finally Stuart comes clean about his past career in the "Confessions" films. I suppose, like Dale Winton, it had to come out, eventually. It's a good song, though, really making the most of the band's new Industrial Techno style. Not too sure about those instrumentals, mind. I blame Trevor Horn. +++ TRUTH ===== Welcome to Emily and Tsugi. Emily obviously realises that Sinister's main function is to meet boys and girls with biscuit crumbs in their jumpers in order to snog them. If you want to snog some boys or girls, you may want to go and have a look here: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/crush.html . Oh look! I got a crush! I wonder who it could be???????? Alternatively, if the List Crush is as much use as a brown banana, you might want to type "Ken Chu" and "girlfriend" into a search engine. That usually does the trick for me. Mark and Terry said nice things about me. Thanks, it's much better than a crush, you know. :) Personally, I'm holding back with any proper discussion of the new album until it actually comes out, whereupon, like an elephant's sneeze, I'll shoot forth a ten page comprehensive song-by-song review. Well I might; we'll see. Better wear your rainhats, just in case. Robin x ps: Everyone should buy the new Camera Obscura album, cos it's ace, and everyone should go and see them on tour, too, and everyone who does should try to sneak a look up the bassist's kilt. pps: Dirty Vicar, I'm thinking of seeing the Aislers Set in Glasgow, too, although I'm being a little half-arsed about it. They're amazing. You'll probably like them more after seeing them live, too. _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Wed Sep 17 15:10:33 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 14:10:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Fwd: Belle and Sebastian Mailing List - Dear Catastrophe Waitress promo nights Message-ID: Hullo again, I forgot to say a couple of things. Firstly, if you're on the look out for a nice fellow with a scottish accent, a certain Mr Murdoch might be able to sort you out. He talks about San Fransisco, pretend girlfriends, girls in black-rimmed glasses, Camera Obscura and film discussion groups here: http://www.banchory.net/belleandsebastian/writing.html Also, i was about to empty my junk mail folder when I found an email from Banchory about DICKYWUSS promotion nights, which I've copied below. They're even having one in Cardiff! It's a miracle! All the other emails were to do with "enormous cocks". Someone must think I'm a fan of big chickens. I don't know what gave them that idea, although I do like the odd goose now and then. GOODBYE ROBIN XXX [ by express delivery : http://www.superatomic.co.uk/blog ] >From: >To: >Subject: Belle and Sebastian Mailing List - Dear Catastrophe Waitress promo >nights >Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 18:03:48 -0000 > >Hello all, > >Well, we've all been busy coming up with new and exciting ways for you to >enjoy the record. Unfortunately all the following events are UK based, >but if you're planning anything in your home town, let me know and we'll >tell everyone about it! > >In Glasgow, were doing a night at the National Pop League @ The Woodside >Social Club, North Woodside Road, Glasgow on Friday September 26th. The >night will kick off early with doors at 7.30pm for people to be ready and >seated by 8.00pm for the start of the Pop Quiz compered by Mr Stuart >Murdoch with some very fabulous prizes! During this time, table service >will be offered by some delightful Non Catastrophe Waitresses and once the >Quiz has finished, the dancing will begin, as usual until 2.00am. I think >it's �3.00 in and the bar is dead cheap too. More info at >http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/nationalpopleague > >At the following club nights, selected tracks from the new B&S album "Dear >Catastrophe Waitress" will be played and there will also be giveaways of >the record and other promo bits and bobs on the night too. > >2nd Oct: > >*Bedsitter @ The Met Lounge, Peterborough >59 Bridge Street, Peterborough, PE1 >www.metlounge.org.uk > >*Purr @ Bath Moles >14 George Street, Bath, BA1 >Doors: 9.15pm - 2am >www.purr.org.uk > >3rd Oct: > >*Evol @ The Liquid Rooms, Edinburgh >9c Victoria Street, Edinburgh >Doors: 10.30pm-3am >Cost: �5 >Tel: 0131 225 2564 >Email: info at liquidroom.com >Website: www.liquidroom.com > >*Collision @ Timepiece, Exeter >Little Castle St, Exeter, Devon, EX4 >Tel: 01392 493096 >www.timepiecenightclub.co.uk > >*Statik @ The Garage, London >22 Highbury Corner, London, N5 >Doors: 11pm-3am >Entry: �6 without flyer, �3 with. >Flyers available from: www.statiklovesyou.co.uk > >*Offbeat @ Sheffield University >Raynor Lounge, Sheffield University Student's Union, Glossop Road, >Sheffield >Doors: 9pm-1am >Entry: �3 >www.shef.ac.uk/~offbeat/frames/homepage.htm > >*The Session @ The Cockpit, Leeds >The Cockpit, Swinegate, Leeds, LS1 >Tel: 0113 244 1573 >Entry: �4 Adv / NUS, �5 on the door >Doors: 11pm-2am >www.thecockpit.co.uk > >*Shakedown @ The Soundhaus, Northampton >Great Russell Street, Northampton, NN1 >Tel: 01604 250898 >Doors: �3.50 with NUS �4.50 before 11pm & �5.50 after. >www.theshakedown.com > >4th Oct: > >*Full On @ The Little Civic, Wolves >North Street, Wolverhampton, WV1 >Enquires: 01902 414664 >www.wolvescivic.co.uk > >*Yo Yo @ The Piper Club, Hull >The Piper Club, Newland Avenue, Hull >Tel: 01482 498 931 >Entry: �2 NUS, �5 other >Doors: 10pm-2am >www.yo-yo-indie.co.uk > >*Yo Yo @ The Quayside, Lincoln >Brayford Wharf North, Lincoln, LN5 >Doors: 10pm-2am >www.yo-yo-indie.co.uk > >*The Warehouse, Preston >50 St Johns Place, Preston, PR1 >Tel: 01772 253216 >Doors: 10pm-2am >www.warehousenightclub.co.uk > >*Sonic Boom @ The Leadmill, Sheffield >Leadmill Road, Sheffield, S1 >Tel: 0114 2212828 >Doors 10pm-2.30am; >Entry: �4 (nus) / �5 >www.leadmill.co.uk > >*Smile @ The Star & Garter, Manchester >18-20 Fairfield St, Manchester, M1 >Tel: 0161 275 6726 >Entry: �3 / �2 with flyer >Doors: 9.30 - 2.30 >Flyers available from: www.members.tripod.com/acmerock/smile/ > >8th October: > >*Popscene @ Club Ifor Bach, Cardiff >11 Womanby Street, Cardiff, CF10 >Tel: 029 2023 2199 > >We're also doing two launch parties - one in London on Friday October 3rd >and one in Glasgow on Sunday October 5th. More info about them to come >asap! > >Lastly, Isobel Campbell has asked us to tell you about her new album which >is being released in October too. It will come out on Instinct Records >http://www.instinctrecords.com/ in the U.S.A. on October 7th and in the >UK/Europe on Snowstorm Records http://www.snowstormrecords.com/ on October >27th. You can find out more information about the new album by visiting >Bel's US publicists pages at >http://www.sacksco.com/roster/isobel/isobel_rls.html > >That's it for now! > >cheers, >Katrina @ Banchory. > >http://www.dearcatastrophewaitress.com > >*** > >To unsubscribe from this list, please send a blank email to >list-off at banchory.net > > > > >To unsubscribe from this list send a blank email to list-off at banchory.net > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From duke at xxx.uk Wed Sep 17 19:36:09 2003 From: duke at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 19:36:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I had to say this Message-ID: Don¹t you just hate music journalists? Getting to hear records weeks, if not months before the poor blighted Œpunter¹Š What a life. The downside of course is that you tend to miss out that whole excitement about the release date thing; that marvellous sense of expectation as you queue in line for the record store to open, that heart in the mouth moment as you fork over your cash and rush home to whack it on the record player. Sorry, showing my age thereŠ should have read Œbefore whacking it in your PowerBook and ripping it onto your iPod¹. Of course I never considered myself a music journalist, which is just as well because nor has anyone else, but stillŠ it¹s nice to pretend. Especially since it¹s meant reigniting my love affair with that band of ragamuffins some call Belle And Sebastian. See, the way things have been recently I wouldn¹t have bothered to even cast more than a casual eye over the fact that they have a new album lined up. I mean, I¹d been unimpressed by anything they¹d done since (bits of) ŒArab Strap¹. I thought, Œach, I don¹t need Belle And Sebastian in my life¹, and you know the only reason that big poster for those mythic Manchester Town Hall concerts still hangs on my classroom wall is because it¹s too high up for me to easily reach. So when a copy of ŒWaitress¹ fell in my lap, I had the review all ready to go. It talked of Moments and Memories and dismissed their current effort with a toss of the hand, a flick of the wrist and a Œwe¹re all different people now¹. I thought I¹d let them off lightly, thought I had played the drifted-apart former lovers part pretty well. Then I listened to the album. And then I listened again. It¹s five days later and I¹m still listening. Hardly anything else has managed to get on the stereo in the meantime. To say I¹m surprised isn¹t even in it. So I¹m not going to repeat the things I ended up writing in the second draft of that review here, except to say that, ah, well, look: I WAS right and we¹re none of us the same as we were, and that¹s just fine. Belle And Sebastian no longer sound to me like the same slightly scrawny gang of scruffy scallywags I fell in love with all those years ago (look in the archives if you¹re a youngster, or in the deepest recesses of your memories if you¹re a Sinister ŒOriginal¹ ­ for which read Œold git¹). They sound more self-assured, and they sound like they¹re having a whale of a time. Which is something we should not underestimate the value of in Pop. ŒWaitress¹ sounds like a magical Pop confection, crammed full of wonderful songs that are stuffed with wonderful moments that skip and soar, that crawl along your spine laying butterfly kisses as they go. Lines leap out and ambush you with a knowing grin; there¹s lyrical and musical nods of reference and reverence that glow with wit and arch wisdom but that never for a moment sound laboured and over-wrought with Œcleverness¹. Best of all today are the sounds of ping pong balls, the lovely Thin Lizzy references, the line about Œwalk away renee¹ and the fact that ŒStay Loose¹ sounds like an outtake from ŒBack in Denim¹ (some mighty, mighty recommendation in case you were wondering). Oh, and the fact that ŒWrapped Up In Books¹ sounds for all the world like Cliff Richard¹s ŒIn The Country¹ (as covered by The Farmers Boys). So, you know, sorry to annoy all of you real fans who do the queuing outside the record store, but I just had to share this with you. I know you¹re all going to love this record when you hear it. It¹s the kind of record obsessions build themselves around. I can almost feel a Belle Lettres 2 coming onŠ Lots of love The Duke. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mess_up_my_hair at xxx.com Thu Sep 18 09:57:28 2003 From: mess_up_my_hair at xxx.com (Alex Goffey) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:57:28 +1000 Subject: Sinister: downloads and mixtapes Message-ID: Well hey there Sinister.. Long time, no words from this brown corner of the galaxy, but then I'm sure you didn't need my inconsequential mutterings to brighten up your autumnal/springtime days. Oh no no, what with all the other lovely kids on here AND a spunky new album to look forward to, what more could one possibly want? I'm not sure if anybody has mentioned this already, but 'Step Into My Office, Baby' is free for downloading off Insound (www.insound.com). You know, I really did try not to download anything before the spunky new album comes out, but when it's free and there to download, I couldn't resist. Even now that Soulseek is working again, I'm still not going to download anything else. Why? I just think it'll spoil the surprise - listening to an album for the first time is like opening presents. If you know what's already inside it, where's the fun in that? I think it'll be well worth the wait. I love 'Step Into...", though - today I had it playing and I couldn't help dancing around to it, singing along after the third listen, and vowing to be at the record store super early to buy my copy when it comes out. Yay! As for all you lucky lucky Glaswegians, I am more than insanely jealous that you'll have the opportunity to see the super duper Aislers Set AND the even more stupendous Lucksmiths IN THE SAME SHOW! If envy could be conveyed via email, this'd probably be flaming more than the bombe alaska i saw on a cooking show before Father's Day. So go see them and, more than making yourselves happy, make me wish I was on the other side of the world once again. Uhmm well anyway, hope y'all well in Sinister land. Oh yes, two words: tape exchange. Talk to Tape Whiz kid Terry Underwear and join in on all the action - it's such fun! I received a nifty little CD from Nathan and I can't wait for more. - - alex _________________________________________________________________ E-mail just got a whole lot better. New ninemsn Premium. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Thu Sep 18 10:22:30 2003 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 10:22:30 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Gratuitous mention of Isobel's arse In-Reply-To: <200309171836.TAA07300@missprint.org> Message-ID: <20030918092230.59360.qmail@web10409.mail.yahoo.com> Fuck me, it's the Duke of Harringay. The best thing about that post was how I have gone from being disappointed by (my two fleeting hearings of) the new album to trouser-splittingly excited at the prospect of falling in love with N!E!W! Belle and Sebastian songs. I'm sure there'll still be a Clunker or two (Stevie Jackson is the new Isobel - discuss), but hey, we already know that Lord Anthony is worth £12.99 of anyone's money, so it's not going to be that big a risk. Dukey, old chum, do you still read the list? if so, I wonder who else out there might return to the fold, surfing the triumphant crest of Stuart 'n' Trevor's pop tsunami? The DV(ant) mentioned the Aislers Set gig in Glasgow on October 17th. I'm sure to be there - are we getting on at the moment, DV, or will you be challenging me to a duel to protect the honour of a certain young lady friend of yours? Hassocks before dawn! Or is that cassocks? Cassowaries? Rheas? Chris Reas? Regardless, this is the best opportunity for a Sinister free-for-all outside the no-doubt ur-exclusive DuCkWank launch parties. Keep the faith, as a wise man once said, Mark xxxx ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Thu Sep 18 14:18:28 2003 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:18:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Beer and Anchovies at Waitrose Message-ID: Hello kids, Well, I suppose absence makes the heart grow fonder (most of the time), I haven't posted for merely a couple of weeks and already people are inquiring as to my marital status. Maybe I now should be sponsored by "How Does It Feel To Be Loved", for giving their website extra hits, much like a porn site with pop-up ads. Maybe B&S can do with my services too... so that Googling "Ken Chu" "Dick" "Wank" can link to the website for the new album DICKWANK. Speaking of DICKWANK, I obviously had no chance of listening to the new album but for some reason I think the best tracks on DICKWANK are going to be... If She Wants me Wrapped up in Books Lord Anthony If you find yourself caught in love I'm a cuckoo Piazza, New York Catcher And for the same unknown reason I think DICKWANK is going to be the best album the band have ever produced. And that many people are going say that they don't like the band anymore, if that happens I think they just won't have listened to the album properly and are better off if they had stayed to play with themselves. Alex Goffey mentioned the luck of Glaswegians, yet forgot to mention the REAL REASON that they're all lucky and that's because they had to chance to see RED BULL DOZERS LIVE. So good that Aislers Set and Lucksmiths decided to want some of the fun. That should be good too, though. Is Archel still my friend? Or is she going to call me a cunt for calling her friend Robin Stout a fanny two weeks ago? Wanna fight? Personally I think both of you have shit for faces, and not even the nice solid kind, but the kind that came from previous night's hot curries. I wrote a whole thesis on feces once. It was really shit. Ken P.S.: Now that the LA Treasure Hunt winners have been found, Pesusich71 wondered if the answers to the clues would ever be revealed!!? P.P.S.: Actually i think it's already revealed on the news section of the B&S website. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From irivamon at xxx.com Fri Sep 19 01:19:44 2003 From: irivamon at xxx.com (Ian Rivamonte) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:19:44 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Football with Stuart Pics Message-ID: Here is the link to pics of the soccer game from San Francisco with Stuart. http://photomail.photoworks.com/sharing/roll.asp?Key=1~FQQ4aBru.cKPqY0sdYWP3oHhW..6MUW1RnI7CsQO5/QnBMkDNQBC87NYqzRH4XB5 Enjoy! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From belle-sebastian at xxx.net Fri Sep 19 03:18:45 2003 From: belle-sebastian at xxx.net (Belle & Sebastian Fan) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:18:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Ok... I admit, I cheated Message-ID: Yes, that's right folks, I cheated... sort of. With the near arrival of the highly anticipated (at least to me) Dear Catastrophe Waitress, I have been doing some research (including the Sinister List) as far as track list, etc. I came upon the Amazon.com website where you could pre-order DCW. Now, who would want to pre-order a CD from the web when it ships the day the CD is released? I mean, come on, that means you get the CD days AFTER release, right? Well... I found out not in this case. Amazon.com had a special starting September 14th that allowed users to pre-order the CD and IMMEDIATELY after ordering, allowed the purchaser to listen to the album IN FULL streaming from online. Now, I bantered back and forth with myself wondering whether or not I want to hear songs before they were "officially" released, but I just couldn't stand it any longer. A day after I learned of this special, I pre-ordered the CD and I haven't been able to stop listening to the new album. I recognize some of the songs from the Brooklyn, NY show in the States (at which I proudly waited 6 hours outside the gates for a front standing position, hehehe) and I am just as taken aback with hearing them on the album than I was live. For those of you that have more patience than I, I applaud you. B&S music cures my ailments and puts a smile on my face no matter what external circumstances. *hugs B&S* Anyway, I also wanted this to serve as a hello to the list as I have just been granted non-nursery status and look forward to corresponding with you all and exchanging great B&S stories. Thanks to Honey for hosting a place where we can do that! Sincerely, Tim belle-sebastian at insidemyhead.net p.s. - Anyone that went to the Brooklyn show August 19th that happened to talk to a couple from Norway and Israel, please drop me a line at the above e-mail address. I lost their e-mail and I'm hoping they talked to someone else and maybe gave it to them as well. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com Fri Sep 19 07:55:21 2003 From: a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com (a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I met Sarah and Stevie last nite! Message-ID: <20030919065522.3886.h028.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> Hi Sinister, I know I was supposed to have leave but I haven't dared yet and what the fuck: i want to be here. Anyways, I got to meet Sarah and Stevie last night, because they were in Stockholm doing promotion! AH! it was so great and they were so sweet. And it was really nice, because except for some, er, tears afterwards (it wasn't breaking down and screaming oh my god over and over again, it was more like "ah, that was so nice, ah it was too nice, oh no, i'm starting to cry, how awkward!". Not with them, of course. They didn't see that. They had gone back into their hotel by then. But I was thrilled. And I even took a photo with Stevie. I did that last time I met them too but that photo was not that good. But he promised me to put on his best boyband smile, when I told him my plan of taking a photo and saying "This is the last Backstreet Boys-esque thing I'm asking of you", and I handed over a letter which they promised everyone would see. AH! Dearest B&S, I love you so much. Other stuff that's happened that's great: DAMIEN RICE IS COMING TO SWEDEN; THERE IS NO AGE LIMIT AND I'VE GOT TICKETS! HURRAH! Damien Rice is so damn lovely. I am really, really excited. Last week I got a lovely letter from Anders, and fear not my friend, I wrote the answer the very same night, but there are no stamps at home and I always forget to buy. So sorry Anders. The letter will be a-coming soon. Conversation: Me: I dropped out of Sinister, sort of, with a dramatic post and all, but people e-mailed me nice things and now I want to stay on... Stevie: Well it's ALWAYS nice to be wanted, so, I'd say, Stay on! Me: Well, yes, and people might be impressed with the fact that I met you guys too. Stevie: Well in that case Astrid, I'd prepare for disappointment. Me: Oh stop it. It was all very nice, however, and afterwards me and Amanda celebrated by sharing a chocolate croissant and the nearest 7-Eleven. Life is great people, when a chocolate croissant at a 7-eleven is nice. it was a bit humiliating though, because I walked off with the wrong change, and it was a long line and the rude guy who worked there was like "HELLO?! HELLO! YOU'VE GOT THE WRONG CHANGE!" and I had to get my wallet out of my bag again, search for the right money, and then try and change it. Oh. It might sound very innocent, but if there's one thing I hate it's those kind of things. I have to go to my Business Economics class now, and for the first time in the whole term, I'm not really up to it. probably because I didn't do the homework. AH yes. Must be that. So, I'm back. Sorry. love Astrid x ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Fri Sep 19 17:38:19 2003 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:38:19 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: ORIGINAL TIGERMILK FOR SALE Message-ID: <20030919163819.66218.qmail@web10408.mail.yahoo.com> Hi everyone, I know this is advertising an' all, but a former (and extremely delightful and well brought up) sinisterine is reluctantly offloading an original copy of Tigermilk on Electric Honey, and I thought it was worth bringing to your attention. You can find the details at http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2559267657&category=2260 This is something a bit special, and it doesn't come up for sale every day. Go on, spoil yourself... I'll post proper like soon in penance for explicit advertising. Oh, and see some of you later tonight at How Does It Feel To Be Loved :) Mark xxx ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jamie.harrison7 at xxx.com Fri Sep 19 19:32:28 2003 From: jamie.harrison7 at xxx.com (Jamie Harrison) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:32:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: misc Message-ID: <001501c37edc$626f6bc0$5f4a8751@sn011018920345> Hello to all, hope all is ok. I haven't posted in ages, not after my computer totally crashed and I had to use the recovery disc... and moved to BT. Then there were Viruses............................... In fact I'd probably better re-introduce myself; Jamie 26 from Nottingham, UK and I have a huge passion for music from the 1960's to the present day. A good thing I do as I've managed to accumulate in excess of 6000 records/cd's..... I'm not boasting though!! I can't say I have a lot to say, which is another reason why I haven't posted. Just had my attention drawn to sinister by Mark Casarotto pointing out the original Tigermilk LP, how I wish I had the odd £200 or so to get it!! So thanks to Mark for the info.... A full weekend of gigs this weekend for me, and any fans that live around Nottingham that don't know, and it's unlikely that you won't know if you're fans, that Camera Obscura are playing the Rescue Rooms tomorrow night (is this allowed on Sinister, if not sorry!) Sunday night is Stereototal, with a support band whose lead singer is apparently called "Moo" and the drummer is "Elvis." I'm sorry there's nothing more I can add to that, just wanted to say "hi," and perhaps there'll be more to say next time. Take care, Jamie. :o) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Sat Sep 20 05:17:14 2003 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: if you meet me in the night, you're free to covet all you like In-Reply-To: <20030918092230.59360.qmail@web10409.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030920041714.60917.qmail@web41113.mail.yahoo.com> --- Mark Casarotto wrote: > Fuck me, it's the Duke of Harringay. ... which was my reaction exactly, and i thought, oh hell, ree, you know you've been secretly reading all (well, almost all) those emails that get filtered into your "sinister" email folder... go on, speak up. besides, my 5-year anniversary is coming up. so, mark also said > but hey, we already know that Lord Anthony is worth > �12.99 of anyone's money and to that i say, fuck yeah. look, i ain't gon' tell ya how, but i've had the songs for a few weeks, and i have to echo the duke: my favorite band is back. yeah, they're cleaner and tighter and can sing on-key at gigs (god i listened to an old live recording the other night, and i Winced)... but still, struan picks up the guitar and starts in and i'm sold. what are you going to do? they're will never be another IYFS, and would you really want that? that'd be boring. but i think (and forgive me because it's been so long since i posted and/or read the FAQ) that we're not supposed to really talk about the album until it's released, so i'll shut up, then. 'lo all. and bye. xoxo, ree ps. audrey tautou is lovely even when she's an illegal immigrant caught up in the black market organ trade. ===== _____________________________________ "to me she was just marie." -mersault http://www.joannou.net/ree _____________________________________ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Sat Sep 20 12:26:40 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 11:26:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: le ping pong Message-ID: Hullo folks, I finally got a cine film back from the developers that I'd been meaning to get developed for ages, and half of it seems to be of Archel's brighton picnic earlier in the year, with Mark and Ken running towards the sea, trying not to get wet, then running away like a couple of nancy boys. Unfortunately, neither of them actually fell in this time, but if I splice the frames cleverly I can make them do a funny dance. On Radio 4 on Thursday morning there was a small feature about how there are so few British singers that sing with their own accents, preferring to put on a faux american one instead. Their example of a band that does this was the Rolling Stones, and their example of one that doesn't was the Proclaimers*, who they had on as special star guests. Now, just before this came on the radio I'd been listening to Camera Obscura's** amazing Underacheivers Please Try Harder and wondering whether "I should be suspended from class" really does rhyme with "I don't know my elbow from my arse". And then I began to wonder about Struan's voice on Stay Loose, with his "stalks of wilting grarse". I decided that he is an accent traitor. I think we should send Craig, Charlie and Cuthbert Proclaimer around to his house to stamp on his toy tractor. That'll teach him. A few random things that are in my head right now: 1. The Duke is spot on about In The Country and Wrapped Up In Books. 2. Does anyone know if Mick Cooke really wrote You Don't Send Me? 3. Why did John Sullivan never write a spin-off from Only Fools and Horses called "Denzil"? Such a wasted opportunity. 4. I wonder who gave me *another* list crush? 5. I wonder if it was Ian Anscombe.. 6. Where did I put my glasses? 7. Oh, there they are! Robin x * The Proclaimers' new album is OUT NOW!! They like their girls with glasses! http://www.proclaimers.co.uk/ ** Camera Obscura's new album is OUT NOW!! They like their girls with glasses! http://www.camera-obscura.net/ _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hobart at xxx.uk Sat Sep 20 14:21:03 2003 From: hobart at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 14:21:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: easily beats loving yourself Message-ID: <016301c37f7a$0e8c01a0$d95487d9@default> (by the way, if you're looking for THE POINT, scan down a page or so) hello my darlings, i wonder how you are these days? how you've grown? whether you're happier than you were? whether you're wearing clean underwear now? i've told you its important. you never know when you'll need to be wearing clean underwear. i wanted to talk to you about many things. however, i'm not going to. this is partly because of the vast amount of cheap, cheap, cheap white wine still sloshing its way through my system from last night and partly because of that bloody tim burgess album in the next room... i'm meant to be reviewing it but bloody hell its - aahh, that's better. silence. silence is nice, but silence can stop you from doing all the things in life you'd like to. anyway, there was a point to this. so i'll come to it. THE POINT:- as you may or may not have noticed a certain scottish pop/rock/beat combo will be releasing an album in the very near future. us chaps at friends of the heroes (www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk, that's www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk ) have decided to mark the occasion with an issue devoted entirely to b&s, and we'd like you to help. no doubt you're already jumping up and down in excitement at the prospect, and wondering how best to go about this... so i won't keep you in suspense. we're still planning the issue, but it seems likely that there will be an article on 'b&s moments' (this will, of course, have a better title. perhaps taken from some of the comments you lot will send in. you will, you will, you will, you will...) this can be anything - the moment you fell in love is a good one. preferably with the band, although it could be the moment you fell in love with your wife/ pamela anderson/ pvc/ pingu if you really want, as long as you relate that back to the MUSIC. perhaps there are lots of moments where you fell in love with them. you don't only fall in love with a thing or a person once, you have to keep doing it over and over again otherwise you forget why you loved them. tell us about those moments when they made everything click, and feel right, and gave you hope that you didn't have just a second before. or, tell us about trying to fuck to 'space boy dream'...its your decision. we also have a PROBLEM PAGE. recently, this has been run by sister janice slejj, space travelling, disco-loving, alternative-gardening nun but it will, for one week only, be written by a special guest (errr...some of you may think the guest is more special than others, all i'm saying is that its a semi-regular sinister poster and she LOVES YOU). this guest wants you to write in with belle and sebastian related problems... for example... 'i can't concentrate on my quantum physics p.h.d. because i keep thinking about the way isobel campbell holds her cello'; ' i have been spending too much time sleeping at bus stops, wondering how i got my name and what i'm going to do about it'; 'i am an indie-boy, she says i'm too skinny...boy'*; 'stuart murdoch says if i don't bugger off, he'll get a restraining order' that sort of thing. you can send them to either ian at friendsoftheheroes.co.uk or rachel at friendsoftheheroes.co.uk and we'll forward them on. we're also thinking of doing a b&s anorak's page. full of really, really useful things you didn't know about the band. while we're capable of doing our own research (honest!) anything you could help us with would be nice... any websites, sources of info, or just things you want to share (not LIES preferably, unless they're really good/exciting/pervy ones. ken, any more pictures of you in that pvc catsuit will be sent to your employers) oh, and at SOME point, we're hoping to get hold of a copy of the bloody album. it looks like all you other buggers have got one first. failing that, we'll have a b&s issue without a b&s review. but hey that wouldn't be such a bad thing, why conform to expectations anyway?? so, that was THE POINT. please write to either me, dimitra daisy, rachel sunnyset or grainne grainney (why don't you have a funny list-name?) off-list with any thoughts, suggestions, or random abuse. actually, send random abuse to dimitra. she loves it. THE POINT being over, i'll move on to BESIDE THE POINT where is that, beside the point? clearly, its close to the point but people seem to think it isn't a great place to be. but if you can see the point from there, it can't be that bad, can it? anyway: BESIDE THE POINT robin stout said: 4. I wonder who gave me *another* list crush? 5. I wonder if it was Ian Anscombe.. *another*? well, actually, robin i'd been saving myself for a tall, buffed, blonde bronzed adonis, but as casarotto keeps rejecting my advances i suppose you'll do. you'll need to earn it, mind. but it'll be tax free, on your back. not too difficult, once you've learned to relax. don't complain. you've no IDEA what i had to do for MY vote. which i've probably lost by now. and then he said: 6. Where did I put my glasses? 7. Oh, there they are! i know, i'm always leaving things up there too. i also wanted to say that i'm REALLY JEALOUS of jamie and all the rest of you who are getting to see camera obscura in the Fair City Of Nottingham tonight. i was going to join you but i'm completely and utterly BROKE. robin was right when he said their album was very good INDEED. (there's another review here http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk/reviews/music/week27.html although you might think 'very good indeed' is better. there, i've mentioned friends of the heroes twice in an e-mail now, rachel. can i please have my complimentary badge-and-vibrator set? and don't pretend you don't know what you're talking about, because dimitra has shown me hers.) i wish i was as cool as SOME people, who get mentioned on the 'underachivers....' (do we have a rude acronym for that?) sleeve notes (take a look, you'll see who i mean..). finally, its great to see all these good reviews for the new BELLE AND SEBASTIAN album. perhaps very soon, i'll have to stop talking about the likes of camera obscura and saying 'they make me feel like b&s used to' and i'll just say 'they make me feel like b&s do'. wouldn't that be something? the (electronic) rennaissance starts here. oops, that wasn't the final bit, this is: aislers set - glasgow...who's going? what are you doing? can you recommend somewhere very cheap to stay? is there a picnic? tell me, cos i'm going to have to start saving (or working out someone to borrow money from) NOW. so, dears, that's our manifesto, pencil in a date, let me know when something gives, i hope its not too late. i love you all and i kiss you all. yes, even you.. i am not the milkman of human kindness, but if i was i'd leave you an extra pint. xx ian *stolen from archel playforth, of course P.S. if you'd like a space-travelling disco-loving alternative-gardening agony-aunt nun to solve your problems live on the modern interweb for everyone to see, please write to sister janice. it'll help to break up all the hard-drinking: the_space_shed at yahoo.co.uk P.P.S. that's the last plug this mail, i promise. P.P.P.S. that just begs for a pun about butt-plugs, but i'll leave that to jay. consider that a challenge, dear. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mike at xxx.com Sun Sep 21 04:28:14 2003 From: mike at xxx.com (Mike Appelstein) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:28:14 -0700 Subject: Sinister: i'm from the lou and i'm proud References: <200309201127.MAA15926@missprint.org> Message-ID: <00c201c37ff0$6520c1b0$6b8ffea9@Appelstein> Hi folks: When last we spoke, I think I was living in NYC. Or maybe I'd already moved to Seattle. In any event, I am now here in St. Louis, MO. It's not so bad - in fact, it's better than I thought it would be. I'm keeping a blog of my experiences here in the Midwest: http://djearlybird.blogspot.com. ("DJ Early Bird" is my DJ alter ego. My wife Callie gave it to me upon noting that I'm always early for things. It's true. Plus it's a DJ name I can continue to use when I'm, you know, older. Do they have Early Bird Specials in Europe?) My main reason for writing is to express my shock that Belle & Sebastian will be coming to St. Louis in November. This news has just made my entire year - as much as I like Missouri, it's not exactly a hotspot for touring bands. Heck, I might even travel to Lawrence and Chicago to see them. If any of you Sinisterinos are coming here, let me know - I'll pass along food and drink recommendations. back to lurking, mike mike at appelstein.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hobart at xxx.uk Sun Sep 21 22:38:32 2003 From: hobart at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:38:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the best looking boys are taken.. Message-ID: <001f01c38088$b6bc30c0$c13687d9@default> ------------------------------------------- She wouldn't look back. Ahead of her was the future, and, having a future, it seemed churlish to ignore it. She fumbled in her pockets for a cigarette, lifting it to her mouth and leaving it there. She didn't like to smoke, but she liked the reassurance, and the solidity, and the fact that it wouldn't clear off the next morning, leaving her with only her dreams. Such dreams. She often thought it was those that marked her out - a Strange One, the mothers said. What the kids said was less kind, but she was learning not to expect kindness from people. Or, not from these people anyway. Perhaps someone, somewhere, far away.. Just in time, she jumped back from the kerb as, under the wheels of a passing bus, a puddle became a fountain. She glared at the driver as he laughed, and she thought of the boy at school who dreamed of being a bus driver and, even now, spent all his days sitting on the back of a number 11, going round and round, in a never-decreasing circle. She thought of his eyes, and his mouth and she thought that she should never have showed him her song. Boys were useless at keeping quiet. And yet this one felt different, warmer, softer. Less like a boy. But, yet, not quite like a girl either. Above her, the streetlamp flickered. The rest were broken: children - younger than her - and stones, or bricks, or bottles. Everyone was hard, everyone was untouchable and frightening and protected against everybody else. She would leave them behind. She would. Except him, perhaps. She tried to think of other things but he kept coming back: 'Judy... I don't know you' Oh, but he did. Better than anyone. She already felt like she'd shown him everything, but it was only a song, a stupid song. It meant nothing, just like all the thoughts in her head. The thoughts that the tablets were supposed to stop. Except...she hadn't taken them. She reached in her pockets and fingered one, and left it there. It was tempting, but it felt too easy, too unbelievable. If it was going to work, it had to be harder than that. Her secret. She'd go to the doctor's and she'd tell them how well she was doing, how calm she felt these days and how the dreams didn't trouble her any more and - How could he say he didn't know her? What did he want? It was so easy to tell with the other boys. She'd had that, the other boys. That was the past. Ahead was the future. She kept telling herself this, and hoped that at some point she'd be able to believe it. Past the posh houses on the corner where the new girl lived: tall and elegant and already widely loved She considered stopping by, and saying hello, just to see the shock on the face of her prospective host. But no... the next morning... all around the school: ' I don't know. She was just standing there on my doorstep, looking at me as if she thought I was going to ask her IN'... No. She didn't need that. She didn't need them. Let them stay inside, she'd rather be alone. Ahead, a light gleamed faintly behind trees. Saint Theresa's - the churchyard looked safe and forgiving, but she knew better and kept walking. She still remembered the day she'd found herself outside, pulling frantically at the door handle, crying, and knowing inside that it had to be locked. These things were always locked. She lit the cigarette, fought the urge to retch as the smoke hit the back of her throat, and put it out again. She didn't know why she liked to pretend. They said she shouldn't think the things she did. Not at her age. The dreams had to stop. She didn't tell them they'd got the dreams all wrong. Tomorrow, she would talk to him. She didn't know what she was going to say, but she would tell him. And, if he had nothing to say to her in return, she'd give up on the books and learning and she would catch the first train heading North. Or South. 'London....yeah, London' 'SQUAWK! LONDON....YEAH LONDON!' Silently, she cursed the parrot on her shoulder. She wished she knew where it had come from. The star above lit the way as she walked. She wouldn't look back. Ahead of her was the future. ---------------------------------------------- that may or may not appear in friends of the heroes at some point. i'm anticipating SO MANY responses from you lot to that mail i sent yesterday that we won't have room for it. just one response would be nice... you're probably all busy with lives, and such. i have just been unfortunate enough to catch five minutes of pop idol. i went to shut the door because i couldn't concentrate with the television on in the next room and my attention was caught by the fact that a contestant was singing the beautiful stevie wonder song 'knocks me off my feet'. he was criticised for picking a song that wouldn't be known by those watching and wasn't a 'proper' pop song. two of the judges practically admitted they hadn't heard of it. the other two thought it lacked personality. which says a lot about them. perhaps its a little too simplistic to say that mainstream pop music has gone down the shitter because its controlled by people who have never listened to stevie wonder. but, fuck it, i'm going to say it anyway. mainstream pop music has gone down the shitter because its controlled by people who have never listened to stevie wonder. there, i said it again. that makes it DOUBLY TRUE! have nice evenings, or weekends, if you live to the west, and still have some left. i do love you, yknow xx ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From innerlemming at xxx.com Sun Sep 21 23:18:52 2003 From: innerlemming at xxx.com (laurel lemming) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 15:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: do something pretty while you can Message-ID: <20030921221852.15133.qmail@web41015.mail.yahoo.com> dear sinister: Tim's youngest sister is fifteen. she had a headache last night, and she went to bed. she was in bed when his dad called to talk to him, and they passed the phone around, and after he had talked to everyone at the house, his dad asked if he'd like to talk to Megan--he could wake her up. he said no, it was okay--he talks to her online all the time. you know my friend Abigail, that I think you met a few times? her father died in January 2002. her father was like my father, and he was my dad's best friend. (I knew her since I was born.) my dad told me that yesterday they were thinking about him, 'cause they're at the Austin City Limits music festival, and there are some bands there he thought Graham (Abby's dad) would have liked. and he told me that he was thinking how he wished I could be there, too, and just how cool it is that we're all alive right now, and that we get this wonderful if fleeting experience of being here. we get to play music and listen to music and hug each other and feel good and hurt and walk around. and I think about that a lot myself. this morning, we were snuggling in bed. the phone rang, and he let it ring. then it rang again, and he reached over me to pick it up, and I knew something was wrong. I was thinking about how great life is Friday, I was having a really wonderful day. I was sick all last week, but Friday I felt better. and Tim's computer parts all came in that day. and I met him at the shop, and he gave me a mission, and then I got to go buy computer games with Someone Else's Money. and it was so blue and cloudless and bright, and the wind was so cool, and I saw at least 10 monarch butterflies. and then yesterday, I met Tim at the shop at closing time, and we walked home on Wells St. because I had a surprise to show him. and I showed him: there is an aquarium shop on Wells that supplies the Shedd Aquarium, and it has all saltwater fish and cichlids. and we looked at all the pretty fish, and on the way home, he took me down a street I had never been down before, and it was due west, the sun was shining right in our faces, and all of a sudden, maybe three blocks from the apartment there was a lot with horses in it, and hay. it's where they keep the carriage horses. and I never knew. Megan was unconscious this morning. they took her to the hospital. they did a scan. she had an aneurysm. they were placing a shunt. they were doing an angiogram. they were--are?--going to move her to a hospital in downtown Houston. Tim has gone, caught a flight to be with her and with his family. I can't go; I have class; I don't have the money to go unless something Really Bad happens. I tried to be there for him today, but I was somewhere else. he fed me. he made sure I got back to the dorms. I'm thankful that he could go and be with his family. I am thankful. I am thankful that she's still alive I am thankful that today the cafeteria made vegetarian chili I am thankful that I have a place to go to, where I can be online and talk to friends I am thankful that Tim himself is okay, and I'm okay, and we're both in pretty good health I am thankful that I am awake today-- please tell those that you love that you love them today. do something pretty while you can. thank you for reading this, sinister. love, lem __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daisygreenlight at xxx.com Sun Sep 21 23:26:55 2003 From: daisygreenlight at xxx.com (miss lou) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 15:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: but we just talk about the people we have met in the last five years, and will we remember them in ten more? Message-ID: <20030921222655.97288.qmail@web60205.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinister. mark casarotto, i am coming back to the fold. didn't you miss me? of course i would be back again. and of course i would come back with a gigantic subject line in the manner of my old days of posting, when the list crushes were more hot and bothered than my old, un-air-conditioned apartment on 17th street. and funnily enough, or maybe not funnily at all, after my dormancy it feels lovely to send a nod again to the list. so. for those of you who remember, hello again. and for those of you who don't (or never knew), it will be entirely useless to know that i like both cold rooms and the smell of phone books. and that i have met ken chu (and touched him!). and though i suspect i was known for long, drama-filled and probably very twee posts, i'll keep this one short in the manner of an entrance with a bullet. or bang. or whatever violence a very small girl in red leg warmers can (very unconvincingly) bestow. .xo.lou. p.s. -- i suppose i thought i might add that, for any of you who are unawares, isobel's new album can be summed up, in my estimation, by one of her own songtitles: 'poor butterfly.' p.p.s. -- hugs to laurel lemming. ===== www.somewhereinbetween.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Message-ID: <20030922023706.64535.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com> as laurallew might say, oh my hokey. two posts; one week. short & sweet (kinda like me): holy fucking shit -- belle & sebastian in dee-troit Again?! i imagine the kids will pull together an after-party again or something, but if anyone wants to do anything else, you know, i'll organize. right, carry on. xo, ree __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayeckard at xxx.com Mon Sep 22 04:20:46 2003 From: jayeckard at xxx.com (Jay Eckard) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 03:20:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Death of KNOW YOR HIPSTERS! Message-ID: So Sinister: Did you ever have the carpet pulled out from under you? I had this lovely post all about KNOW YOUR HIPSTERS about the evolution of Emo Kids to full blown Hipsters, but then I saw this hysterical wee book called The Hipster Handbook. Eff da! I hate it when my thunder is stolen. In other Lil Emo Kid News, there has been more Stalkage. Turns out his name is Brian. He is an undergraduate at Duke University. He is half Japanese. He used to work at my radio station and my friend the ever Poppy Alicia is aware of him. I learned this at a local Label (Pox World Empire) Expo show. Oh, it was gand! Hipster as far as the eye could see! I got a free CD AND a free tshirt. Not to mention the fine music. I've been busy for a poor boy. Cheesybun Eric was here for over a week! We had fun! We went to shows and parties and rented films! I made him into quite a little Chapel Hill Scenster for a bit. It was generally quite swell. In other musical news: NEW CAMERA OBSCURA! Or so I hear. I have to wait til January. Unless someone sneds me a copy to play on the radio. People. Amusingly, the US distribution folk, Merge Records -- home of the beloved Essex Green and Matt Suggs and the Rosebuds and Magnetic Fields and did I say the Essex Green? -- is based right here in Durham. For her birthday, I gave their Publicist and new-born CO fan a copy of Biggest Bluest Hi Fi. Needless to say she adored it. NEW BELLE AND SEBASTIAN. Why at this very moment I am listening to a promo copy. It's as swell as a Swell Thing Can Be. It hasn't played Roy Walker yet, but I hope Stu was sober enough to get it right in the studios. As opposed to Brooklyn. Wee drink after, my ass. Befo' yo! I have mentioned the Essex Green. Their new album is The Long Goodbye. I recommend it to you all. Even if I missed some of their recent show to buy Condoms (a first for me). And no, smutty minded folk like Ian, not for me as in for my use. Heavens no: my virtue would never allow it. They were for a perfectly lovely straight girl. Discuss that, yo. (I may be forming a New Pop Sensation with this girl. Would you buy our album? We're pretty and poppy and are sure to make good music!) Speaking of shows: new US B&S tour dates! In Durham! Yo! What are we collectively doing for that? Party at mine for the MidAtlanticOnTheLand Crew? We need to get this together... Anyway: I leave you with the words of Bis: The boy the boy the boy the boy the boy THE BOY!* GayJay (You can skip this, as it specific shout outs. I feel it's okay. I had actual content for once.) PS: Dirty Vicar, I have no idea which Burt Bacharach song concluded the Brooklyn gig, alas. I throw it open to our collective knowledge. PPS: Marianna when will you be in Texas? PPPS: Ian, my nigh-total lack of knowledge sexual toys means I can make no response at all to your butt plugs jokes. I mean, yes I sometimes wish I was a girl so as to have a Hello Kitty Vibe as is all the rage here, but really My Left Hand has always served. PPPPS: Speaking of vibes: Where are Llew and Hele... Oh. Never mind. No wonder they've both been so quiet lately. PPPPPS: Yeah. Probably why we haven't heard from Markelby either. *I know what boy this is about. He wears glasses! -- "The Posby falls into a Trance In which it does a little Dance." Edward Gorey _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Mon Sep 22 04:50:18 2003 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 20:50:18 -0700 Subject: Sinister: songs old & new Message-ID: <04f101c380bc$a3d02500$0a0110ac@pavilion> Too bad they decided to pull "Travellin' Light" from the new LP... hopefully it'll show up as a b-side, i really liked it when they played it live. And i wonder if they'll ever dust off the 4 excellent tunes from their June 2001 Peel Session. In my opinion, "My Girl's Got Miraculous Technique" is one of the top 10 B&S songs ever... it's such a twee reminder of the Sinister-era sound. Could've been a single during that long dry spell. Maybe it'll see the light of day sometime? Mehopes so. Romantic and Square is Hip and Aware, ~Brier Brier's Homepage: www.brier.homestead.com This email ©2003 Courtesy of the Unspeakable Visions of the Individual +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Mon Sep 22 06:29:25 2003 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:29:25 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Freaky Ken Chu (almost) newspaper story! Message-ID: <058f01c380ca$7d34d770$0a0110ac@pavilion> This from today's Los Angeles Times: DEAF KILLER'S FATE RESTS ON MENTAL HEALTH Prosecutors and defense disagree whether a Laguna Hills man was sane when he stabbed neighbor. Judge found racial hatred as motive. By Mai Tran, Times Staff Writer The two young men grew up next door to each other. They spent hours playing video games in each other's living rooms. As they got older, they shared cigarettes in the driveways and backyards of their Laguna Hills homes. All of which makes the scene in an Orange County courtroom that much harder to fathom.One of the young men, Christopher Hearn, 20, has been convicted of murdering the other, Kenneth Chiu, his then 17-year-old neighbor of more than a decade. The slaying took place July 30, 2001, shortly after Chiu returned home from an evening out with friends. Ken, please say this isn't YOU!!! Are you still with us?? ~Brier +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Mon Sep 22 10:01:20 2003 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 10:01:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Just give me an easy life, and a peaceful death Message-ID: Dear Sinister, I'm afraid the time has come for me to say goodbye and unsubscribe. It's not you, it's me. And all that. See, since finishing university and starting my new job (which is less a job and more a something else - a 'profession', perhaps? - in that it makes me grumpy and tired and unable to concentrate), my opportunity to be online has all but vanished. So, now, when I check my email about once a week, I have a godzillion emails to go through, and I feel permanently out of the loop. I haven't been in #sinister for ages either, something that I'm sad about, but feel unable to actually do anything about. But, Sinister has meant the world to me. Meeting people, sharing stories and misery around the globe, shameless slagging of bands, people, books..... I got the chance to meet people who were as similar and as different to me as to make them perfect, and drink copious amounts and dance to Kim Wilde and all those things that make life all shiny and new. I'm not quite sure which bits to pick out as the best, so I shan't pick out any. And I may resubscribe anyway, when I'm a little more organised on the work - life balance. Whatever the fuck that is. Sinister is a very special phenomenon. Many thanks to Honey and Linda, who I will continue to bother with text messages and pukingly-cute Christmas cards. I feel a bit foolish and overly wordsome, so I shall depart. Thank you all for making Sinister as special as it is, Much love Madeleine xxx _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyincorduroy at xxx.com Mon Sep 22 16:06:34 2003 From: boyincorduroy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Casarotto?=) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:06:34 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Haddaway said it best. Or was it Dr Alban? In-Reply-To: <200309221306.OAA03926@missprint.org> Message-ID: <20030922150634.41622.qmail@web10405.mail.yahoo.com> Madeleine Minx, you have Missed The Point. My call for oldsters to return did NOT involve them coming here, w(h)etting our appetites and then dumping us! God, woman, nothing changes 'round these parts - Sinister is still whatever you want it to be (and can shoot ping pong balls out of its fanny for a small charge). Please don't go. But massive props to muh homies Ree, Jay and Brier. I know Jay has barely been away, but he deserves propping (or propping up, on occasion) regardless. I am ever so slightly aware that I may seem a hypocrite by doing this (see previous Stine-disapproved email for details), but there are lots and lots of truly wonderful people who have given lots to making this list what it is, and the combination of them with the marvellous posts of newer listees just might make Sinister THE place to be once again. Not that I'm advocating a return to 100 posts a day MADNESS. Gosh. Mark xxx ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From christopher.leonard1 at xxx.com Mon Sep 22 17:53:51 2003 From: christopher.leonard1 at xxx.com (christopher.leonard1 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:53:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: barking spiders Message-ID: <20030922165420.HKQW12315.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@[10.137.100.61]> Christ, If the duke can manage it so can I. I shall start, If I may, with some true knowledge from my considerably sized noggin. Robin "best leg of three" Stout pondered thus: 2. Does anyone know if Mick Cooke really wrote You Don't Send Me? Yes, I know. He wrote the riff bit at the start, the rest is the work of Mudroch. However, "Mad" Mick did write "Love on the March" from the forthcoming single. All of it. And very nice it is too. You see? Talent. Now let me introduce myself. My name is Chris Leonard (or Chrys Lynyrd if I'm feeling mystical etc..). I have been around hear for an awful long time. This makes me very old indeed. In fact I'm so old, I remember when I was the same age as Isobel Campbell. But according to this website http://www.sacksco.com/roster/isobel/isobel_bio.html she's still 26. And I'm not. Which is confusing. Does she have a flux capacitor up her skirt? I used to write silly stories about glasgow indie people and send them to this list, which was all well and good until I got a public telling off from st*ph*n p*st*el , which I can tell you put me right off that man. It was quite upsetting at the time, but now that I'm older and wiser I can happily tell you that I don't give a fuck. Did you know that he's a very keen ping pong player? And the new album has the sound of a ping pong ball on it. Perhaps it's st*ph*n "ping pong" p*st*el's ping pong ball. Eh? You think? I have to say that I am very taken with the new album. Christ it's great. I love it all. However Robin "king of clubs" Stout is truly right to call Stuart Lee M "accent traitor" (stay loose is funny "I woz playin' the jo-anna", "rabbit,rabbit,rabbit,rabbit" etc). Have I made myself clear? Those of you that know miss julia and I from the past may be interested to know that miss julia is now ms julia. We got married earlier on this year, you see. And we went to Russia. Get married, it's great. Do it now! I trust you are well. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jiffy_popper at xxx.com Mon Sep 22 20:26:10 2003 From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:26:10 -0400 Subject: Sinister: when you're 21 you're no fun Message-ID: A ChristoperLeonard post! That makes my heart feel happy. There have been some good posts. I want more travel narratives from The Pinefox though. I have a new kitten fresh from the barn! Despite being straight out of one of those "Hang in there!" posters he's not twee. His momma killed a weasel! I don't know what to name him though. So Belle and Sebastian have a new album coming out. There is something about discovering a band at a certain age, when the band themselves are beginning, and following them throughout that makes you loyal. I have not experienced this with other bands. I like this quotation: "Time is the enemy of all lovers. Obsession has a life of its own: the object, however irreplaceable and particular it seems, can change, though it is in the nature of obsession not to recognize that." Of course, all these glowing reviews are great. It seems like it has been a while since there has been this kind of anticipation for a new album, so now I am looking forward to it even more. I like the photo on the amazon site that someone posted but I don't think this is the photo they have decided? I would like to think that Struan has empathy for waitresses. Ugh, scrambled eggs on your tights, in your hair and sore feet. I only lasted two months. I love the goldenness of September. That nice start to the year when notebooks are still tidy and you haven't been swallowed up by your own procrastinating. I was thinking of YOU in late August. As the Duke reminded me: (look in the archives if you�re a youngster, or in the deepest recesses of your memories if you�re a Sinister �Original� � for which read �old git�). A good thing about Sinister, it is strange...the people I have known in school, all those proms etc and those couples have broken up. On this list it is the opposite. There are more marriages or am I just exaggerating? It is a strange thing to see the two separate voices on the internet, and then... It only makes me a tiny tiny bit bittersweet, more to do with the inevitable passing of time, (or maybe the feeling of being passed by). I can't help but measure myself not by Jan 1sts but by summers. This will be my second time studying "Leda and The Swan" being on Sinister. I am in this lovely poetry class this year where we are supposed to bake and bring in treats. I am dying to share "My Beloved Compares Herself to a Pint of Stout" trademark Sinister/poetryplace2. This reminds me, did someone kill the parrot? He was flying around for a while there, but sort of disappeared. It's funny you know, we were out at this little club and they actually played Me and The Major. It was no Winchester but there was a girl in a pleated skirt, knee socks and heavy glasses dancing like crazy and mouthing the words. Not a big deal but in a dreary little government town it's all still a bit exotic. And it just seemed a nice little moment with the anticipation of new album and tour. Ree wrote: belle & sebastian in dee-troit Again?! i imagine the kids will pull together an after-party again or something, but if anyone wants to do anything else, you know, i'll organize. I will be going to the Toronto show but I am not sure about Detroit. I don't know if I will have transportation to get across the border. Are there any on here that will be going to both? In 2002 it was a whirlwind trip of 4 cities! That Detroit after party was a nice taste of glamour. Even if I just leaned against the wall, perma-flustered. Hey! Dancing Twins, where are you? Is Ken returning? He can attempt to dance-lure Belfast Bob again. I am supposed to be reading The Faerie Queene so I suppose I should get back to that. There's not many faeries at all now is there? No orphan Honeys in tattered gowns being locked in barns with deadbolts ominously sliding shut. xoxo Genevieve p.s. I think Keith has taken the starring role of The OC and not told us. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john at xxx.uk Mon Sep 22 18:35:33 2003 From: john at xxx.uk (John Jackson) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:35:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Leonard Speaks References: <04f101c380bc$a3d02500$0a0110ac@pavilion> Message-ID: <008f01c38130$056cb710$84a86ad5@johnjackson> > Christ, If the duke can manage it so can I. Me too. Howdo, JJ here. Anyone here who I might know? Anyone? Thought I'd subscribe to this list again cos there's a new album out soon, and what a corker it is too, oh yes. Best they've done I reckon. But I wasn't sure - so the other night I listened to Fold Your Hands and Sinister again..not a patch on the new one. All 12 are great (and the 13th one? not so great but acceptable in company...but does it exist?), and I quite like this new 'direction' they've gone in . Yes, I was very happily surprised. That's it for now - tara yer sh!tters JJ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmwatson at xxx.uk Mon Sep 22 22:26:35 2003 From: kmwatson at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:26:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hello Message-ID: Suddenly everyone's piled back. Chris and Julia Lynyrd, Genevieve, the Dork of Harringay (you owe me 8 squid - that Tracey Thorn record is a pile of shit), Jackson Jeffrey Jackson, Mark C and others. I even notice Dr.Stride has lost his middle name. Nice to see Offbeat is back after the summer break. All we need now is for George Dickie, Rodd and Northy to come back. Hello to all you cheeky young monkeys enjoying this exciting new mailing list too! Glad to hear everyone's enjoying the new LP, "magical pop confection" that it apparently is; I haven't heard it yet cause it's not out yet but I'm sure I will enjoy it when it does come out. Does anyone have the DVD yet or does that take too long to download? The Tygers of Pang Tang were on Never mind the Buzzcocks a minute ago. I've always wondered what they sounded like - what with a belting name like that and I wasn't disappointed. Did anyone else see it? Is anyone else a fan? I haven't done anything in the last few years. Keith. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Mon Sep 22 22:45:14 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:45:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Soup Message-ID: Hullo folks, Well, it seems that Sinister has RISEN FROM THE D!E!A!D! like something, well, sinister. All these old faces remind me of the Sinister back in 1986, when I was still in short trousers and Sinister posts were delivered by folding them into paper aeroplanes and throwing them from the tallest building in town. In Kidderminster that meant climbing up to the fourth storey of the Art College. Some of the locals said that if you went up that high your brain would pop, so they would stand at the bottom with umbrellas over their heads just in case. It never did, though. Chris "Show me the Beaker" Leonard said, "My name is Chris Leonard". He also said, "'Mad' Mick did write "Love on the March" from the forthcoming single. All of it. And very nice it is too. You see? Talent." To be honest, "Love on the March" scared me when I heard it on the radio. But then, at the time the radio was getting a lot of interference from the Archers on Radio Four, and the constant sound of cows and donkeys was enough to drive anyone to bonkers. On the other hand, I *love* Desperation Made a Fool of Me, like a loveable biscuit baby that you just want to squeeze and squeeze and squeeze and.. oh dear, biscuit baby, what have I done??! I wonder what the *second* single from the album will be. I'd like it to be I'm a Cuckoo or Lord Anthony, or, even better, Stay Loose! That would be ace! With (My Girl's Got) Miraculous Technique as a b-side! And a cover made out of chocolate!! Dr C B Stride said, "0100,0100,0100". Well, indeed. Genevieve said "I love the goldenness of September". So do I. I love its chilliness, too, and the hedgehogs that appear after a summer hibernating in their trees. Also, I love September because it makes me want to make SOUP!! In fact, I am making some soup right now to keep me warm till the morning. Do you want to know how to make soup? Here is HOW: ingredients =========== Salt and pepper 75g butter 2 large carrots, diced 2 large parsnips, diced 1 onion, diced 600ml vegetable stock 1/2 teaspoon of fresh thyme Put the butter and carrots and parsnips and onion in a pan and cook for 7 minutes. Add the vegetable stock and cook for 10-20 minutes, until the vegetables are soft. Blend vegetables until smooth. Serve HOT. :) ============ I know what you're thinking: "I'd like to make some soup, but I just don't have the thyme." Well, neither did I, so I just used some basil. I don't think it matters. It's all just leaves. If I didn't have that I'd have used bits of cactus, or rubbings from the grassy underbelly of a sheep. Hey, improvise! Making soup is fun!! Maddie said "Thank you all for making Sinister as special as it is". *sob* Goodbye, Miss Maddie Minx! R xxx [ by express delivery : http://www.superatomic.co.uk/blog ] _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittypower6 at xxx.com Tue Sep 23 04:29:56 2003 From: kittypower6 at xxx.com (alyson snowball) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:29:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: austin, texas meetup Message-ID: <000601c38182$f5dcdd90$6801a8c0@alyson> hello sinister, i sent this last night, but accidentally used my other email address. i was wondering why it hadn't posted to the list yet. . . silly me. i'd like to plan a gathering before the austin show, so would anyone that's interested in attending please contact me off-list? thanks. oh, and if there's someone who would like to help me plan it, that would be grate. ooh and friendly reminder to all attendees of the austin show, i do work at a hotel in town and i can get rooms at a really low rate for anyone that needs a place to stay. we've got these big ol' suites that sleep up to 6, and we're a pretty nice place, no rats or anything. hope you're having a nice day. . . love, alyson +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bulkdavid at xxx.com Tue Sep 23 06:14:25 2003 From: bulkdavid at xxx.com (David Hewitt) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:44:25 +0930 Subject: Sinister: when i'm cleanin' windows Message-ID: G'day Sinister. Boy howdy, that Mark Casarotto, eh? Is there anything he CAN'T do? DON'T MIND ME Well, with a few years under my belt, I'm neither a fresh-faced newcomer, bursting with potential, nor am I a grizzled veteran, who's seen it all before. But I'm going to post anyway, dammit. Here's to the overlooked middle children of Sinister. We've been around long enough for you to decide that you definitely don't want to shag us after all, but not quite long enough for you to have developed a nostalgic fondness for us. We don't promise brand-new, happy, good times, nor do we remind you of your slimmer, prettier, more popular days. In many respects, we're the worst of both worlds. I haven't earned the right to get all nostalgic about the bad old days, nor can I really justify introducing myself. So sod it. I'm just going to post the same rambling load of old bollocks I always do. You've been warned. You should know me just about well enough by now to know roughly what to expect, but not quite well enough yet to actually be interested in any of it. Here goes. RECORD SHOPPING I'm looking forward to the new record. Anti-piracy sentiments aside, I'm waiting to buy it before I hear it, simply because I love going to the store to buy an album that I've been looking forward to, bunging it in the CD player when I get home, sitting down with the liner notes, and really just soaking it all up. Basking in the whole experience of the thing. I'm a shameless consumer, I know. There are only a few records a year that I get to have that experience with these days, though, and I think that number is getting smaller every year. I'm hardly going to deprive myself of this one. Plus, there's something to be said for anticipation, don't you think? My old man (bless his cotton socks) always used to tell me: 'hunger is the best sauce'. As much as I begrudge the admission after all these years, I think the old fart actually has a point after all. SINGLE? Robin Stout wondered what the second single off the album would be. And here am I just wondering why there's even a first single off the album. That's a drastic change of tack, surely? And a slightly worrying one, perhaps? I sort of hope it's something that the new label have forced them into, and not a change of attitude on the part of the band themselves. I used to buy a lot of singles, back in the day, and I used to love finding great little gems of b-sides on them, and I'd claim that the most obscure ones were my favourite songs by the band in question, for added indie-cred. Sometimes I'd even mean it. With some bands, the album that you made up from whacking all of the b-sides together on a C-60 was actually quite a bit better than the one they'd gone to the trouble of putting all on the one disc. I gave up buying most bands' singles some time ago, however, as the ratio of 'killer' to 'filler' b-sides seemed to swing brutally against me. Belle and Sebastian are the last remaining bastion of the genius b-side, I reckon, and I hope that this continues. I like that the singles are self-contained little gems, rather than simply previews or teasers of an album they want you to buy, with a remix or ego track tacked on, as a most bands (even the good ones) seem to be offering lately. I also like that there aren't any repeated songs across the various Belle and Sebastian discs in my collection (well, apart from the two versions of The State I Am In, and most of A Century Of..., I suppose, nitpickers). I realise that the duplication of one song across the two new discs is a relatively minor complaint, but I really do hope that the band's overall attitude towards singles remains the same. Most singles don't stay in rotation nearly as long as their companion albums do, but Belle and Sebastian's are all (yes, even TIJAMRS - what was the witty nickname for that one again?) still essential, and still get wheeled out fairly regularly. Particularly the white one with the stupid title. NO EXIT Miss Madeleine: Sit down, you. You're not going anywhere. You're one of the first people I got to know around these parts, and still one of my absolute favourites. I'll let you in on a little tip - you don't actually have to READ Sinister, just drop us a line every once in a while. At least keep your oar in - you know you'll miss us. Well, not me specifically, but you know, those other people. The better-looking, wittier ones. I bet they'll miss you. SEPTEMBER Some people said some things about September. Well, down here, September is, what, March, in the old money. You know, when it starts to turn Autumnal (what's the adjective for 'Fall', Americans?). My favourite time of year, in fact, you lucky Northern Hemisphere sods. September is actually rather pleasant here at the moment as well, however, as it's starting to warm and brighten up a little, after a particularly bleak winter. The seasons are turning a little late this year, so it's nice to be able to enjoy the change without the pollen and hay fever that usually accompany it. So yeah. Huzzah for September. REPORTING BACK Well, sort of. It wasn't an official Sinister gathering or anything, but it occurred to me that I had four Sinister heads under my roof on the weekend, so that probably warrants a mention. In attendance were: my good lady wife (Julie), the inimitable Trixie Firecracker, and the wind-swept and interesting Miss Marianna, who was stopping by from London on her way to all sorts of far more interesting places than smelly old Melbourne. I think her travel agent has about as solid a grasp of geography as mine does. Anyway, it was a fun time, even though Julie and I had to bow out of joining Misses Trixie and Marianna for a drink the following night as well, due to tiredness resulting from looking at baby animals and chocolate all day. Sorry about that. We're getting old, you see. Marianna: Have a whale of a time, m'dear, and please do tell us all about it. It was grand to see you again. BLIMEY, HE CARRIES ON A BIT, DOESN'T HE? Finally, just a quick shout out to the one and only Amanda Wright, to wish her all the very best in the UK. Knowing the company she's in, I'm sure she'll be as happy as a clam. Bulk love, -Vanilla Flavoured David PS: All of you lot in the UK and Australia are regularly getting drunk and playing Eye Toy, I trust? If not, you should be. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From borokitty at xxx.com Tue Sep 23 14:35:33 2003 From: borokitty at xxx.com (Amy Skelton) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:35:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bound for Bangladesh Message-ID: Dear Sinister, I know over the past couple of years that I've been on the list I've barely posted but that doesn't mean I don't love you.... BOUND FOR BANGLADESH Anyway, I'm due to fly out to Bangladesh in the next week and I'm very excited!! I've got a dream one-year internship working on water/sanitation projects throughout the country (something that's been on my long list of things I want to do with my life for a while now). The doing something pretty while you can that Laurel mentioned doesn't just hold out for personal relationships (although I understand that one very well - my mother died when I was sixteen) but also for all the times when you say or think 'I want to do that/visit there.......! DO IT NOW!! When it comes to visiting countries I've got a long list to go but hey I'm only a young pup and I'm doing things as fast as I can. I used the same subject title when emailing a friend and he said it sounded like I was participating in a bondage marathon for my fundraising. I mean what kind of girl does he take me for? In reality, as part of my fundraising for VSO (the lovely people making my placement possible) I managed to strike something else off my list - skydiving. I tried to think of a way to describe the feeling from this and give it justice but all I can say is - try it for yourself... STAYING IN SOUTH ASIA If anyone happens to be passing through Dhaka in the next year and needs somewhere to kip then get in touch. A male friend and I have got an arrangement (no guffaws please) of catering for our opposite sex friends accom wise. It's part of our damage limitation on getting bits of carrots thrown at us etc. So, is anyone else going to be in the South Asia region? I know Corduroy Boy formerly of this parish is in Calcutta as we speak but with the amount of people on this list is there a chance of some more??? SCARBOROUGH FAIR AND MEET UPS I still hold the Scarborough gig dear in my heart. Although it was weird that the previous act I had seen there was The Grumbleweeds (dodgy but funny cabaret act aimed at families on holiday) when I was a v. young girl. Although I was already listening to B & S and knew about Sinister I never got my motivation to subscribe until fate sat me next to Big Stu at the gig and he managed to convince me that it was a great place to be. How right he was. The people I've met at meet-ups in Manchester and Glasto - you're brilliant! I am more of a face-to-face person rather than saying too much on posts. Off-list posts rock too. The more people are seeing the email the less personal I get. That's why I have the upmost respect for those of you that do feel comfortable with posting personal stuff to Sinister. A couple of months ago a newbie said she didn't find anyone interesting here and then she left. I beg to differ and.... WOOPS sounds like I'm about to start discussing the list on the list so I'll go on a tangent and sign off. Hey you other lurkers -fair enough if you don't feel like posting but I urge you to go to meet-ups when possible. You will be very pleasantly surprised. Hopefully see some of you at Offbeat tonight. I've decided to hot foot it down from Middlesbrough this evening. I was supposed to be flying out tomorrow but the departure date has been put back. DESERT ISLAND DISCS AND NEW ALBUM When packing I couldn't decide what to take/leave out so I'm leaving everything bar one compilation that I won on Phil Jupitus' breakfast show. It's got The Flaming Lips, Violent Femmes etc. on it and it's great. I've been holding off listening to too much of the album so that it is a nice surprise when it finally turns up in the post at Dhaka. Didn't I say I was going.... Well I am this time. Very poor readability comes from typing in a public library with no toilet facilities - I can't concentrate! Love, Amy Skelton _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kg11053 at xxx.com Tue Sep 23 21:19:35 2003 From: kg11053 at xxx.com (Kim Girton) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Annoying children with soccer cleats and SuperSoakers... Message-ID: <20030923201935.89580.qmail@web80710.mail.yahoo.com> Ah, it�s the Reporting Back that makes you quiver, is it? Apologies for the delay in reporting, those who were eager to hear the synopsis of east coast leisure activities, but the lab lost my soil samples and I had to return to our digging site to collect replacements to be analyzed, and I couldn�t do a Report Back without soil results, now could I? That would be a disgrace. Mere words cannot quite describe the wonder of that which was this first picnic. No, nothing short of interpretive dancing would be accurate. But since all I have are words: There was enough food to feed a small army, though with Washington�s reputation for being gluttonous and evile, what else would one expect? Lisa�s cookies were phenomenal and I kicked myself for days for not remembering to take some home with me� If you ever undertake baking again, Lisa, I�ll pay you for two dozen!!! :) The bees must be lurking on the list, too, as they were nearly more friendly than the Picnickers (this may of course be attributed to the fact that Picknickers are less likely to attempt to do a few laps in your spiked orange and/or cranberry juice). Right, and there are no bees IN the ocean, in case you were confused about where the Mid-Atlantic Coast is. Apologies for a non-specific recount of all who attended, as we ended up, surprisingly, outnumbering the birthday party of a reported 75 attendees who had ACTUALLY reserved the picnic spot that we eventually commandeered. I�m pretty sure the birthday partiers were lying about their guest list, though. There was no way there were 75 people there. A lovely waterfall (kindly decorated by the locals with empty Beast cans and Slurpee cups) served as a delightful background on what was probably the first obscenely pleasant day so far this fall. It was almost easy to forget one was in the politically, socially, and economically tumultuous District of Columbia, that is, barring the occasional outbreak of sirens from just past the line of evergreens at the edge of Rock Creek Park. Did you know there really is a Pierce Mill, after which the nearby road was named? I didn�t. It�s a pretty sorry mill as far as mills go, but not altogether aesthetically unpleasant for a historic unused mill. A non-Sinister picnicker swore he saw a frog in the stream by the Mill, but we�re pretty sure he was drunk, or just cruelly taunting the nearby wee ones, who also swore the frog existed and then ran away to pee in their trousers. A pretty low-key event, really � we chatted about the band, of course, DICKYWUSS, of course, and those of us who had not yet heard it quickly grew jealous of those who had. Lisa entertained us with stories about what used to be Stuart�s car and the Dog on Wheels, and we discussed the merits � or lack thereof � of Constitution Hall as a venue for a band like Belle & Sebastian. The general consensus was that the Hall, indeed, sucks, for pretty much any band, and definitely for the likes of B&S. Thank God they will be appearing at the more commercial -- and thusly more indie-kid spurned -- 9:30 Club next month. So suck it up, DC hipsters, and come out to join the B&S fun. It�s so rare we get to enjoy them live in these here parts. With the exception perhaps of the bruises I obtained from being assaulted with tennis balls, we all left unscathed, well-fed, and definitely well-sunned. I unfortunately could not locate Jenny at Wag night, but perhaps next time, eh? Special thanks to those who brought food and drink, and whoever brought the tennis ball� You'll get yours. :) Kevin, sorry you had to miss the event. There�s something to be said for just stuffing your personal life in a tote and bringing it with you, instead of missing a rare event like this one. We could always have fed one more� :) Don�t lose sleep if you also were a no-show. Perhaps someone else will take it upon him or herself to organize Act II. Thanks to all, and I�ll see you �round the List. ~ Kim P.S. AND THE SOIL RESULTS WERE AS FOLLOWS: * AREA: Near Pierce Mill; Pierce Mill Road, Washington, D.C. NW * Soil Nutrient Levels (based on ideal conditions for agronomic crops): - pH ~ 6.2 (barely optimum) - Phosphorus ~ 38 ppm (optimum) - Potassium ~ 276 ppm (above optimum) - Magnesium ~ 49 ppm (below optimum) - Calcium ~ 2660 ppm * Recommendations: Treatment with calcium carbonate to raise the magnesium level and pH of the soil. Needed nutrients for a yield of 6 T/acre of alfalfa include 50 lb phosphate/acre. For 100 Bu/acre, the soil will require a treatment of 100 lb nitrogen/acre and 20 lb phosphate/acre. 33 T/acre corn for silage will require soil treatment of 240 lb nitrogen/acre and 80 lb phosphate/acre. * Basically, we don�t recommend anyone begin farming Rock Creek Park. At least not near the bike path, anyway. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From willpie_00 at xxx.com Tue Sep 23 22:13:46 2003 From: willpie_00 at xxx.com (Will Porter) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #1066 In-Reply-To: <200309232019.VAA27884@missprint.org> Message-ID: <20030923211346.19527.qmail@web41101.mail.yahoo.com> Part 1 IN WHICH OUR HERO IS QUITE FOND OF YOUR UNDERPANTS David Hewitt, I reckon I'm as old as you around here (i.e. just old enough to have required someone to explain what Bowlie *was*, and then wish impotently that I'd had the presence of mind to predict that such a thing was going to exist and be right up my alley before I knew that I liked that sort of thing), and I'd still shag you. Or at least kiss you on the mouth if you hadn't left my country. And just after I'd bragged to all your friends about how we'd tricked them out of you. Talk about egg on America's face, I'll tell you what. Is there anything Mark Casarotto can't do? Well, yes: he can't fool me with that just-huddling-together-for-warmth routine again, that's for damned sure. Part 2 IN WHICH OUR HERO CAN'T REALLY THINK OF A HEADING FOR PART 2 AND OOOOOH, SOMETHING SHINY OVER THERE Have I already explained that I left behind the urban life for the just-a-smidge-too-far-away-to-be-suburban life, complete with an automobile. Turns out it's kind of dull out here. Fortunately, most of the fury has subsided, and I'm confident that I won't go kabuki and maim anyone, which was something I couldn't swear to when navigating crowded subway terminals. Anyway, it's better for my ADHD out here. Not so many distractions, I mean. Incidentally, that reminds me of something: The other day when reading a magazine, I happened upon an advertizement for a new ADHD medication that was Nicotine-based. It struck me that all the ADD/ADHD people I know smoke, and I wondered if maybe this was not some form of self-medication. Like depressives who smoke pot. Or writers who drink. I can't decide if that's insightful, a matter of adding the 2+2 in front of me, or ridiculous. Do any of you know anything of these matters? Part 3 IN WHICH OUR HERO NAME-DROPS THE PARROT YOU KNOW WHICH PARROT I MEAN Alright, who has it? Now that the oldsters are back in force, I think someone better fess up to not having passed it on, or Laura Llew might just throw the Sestina Weasel at you. I think it's a safe bet that nobody wants that. xo, Will Porter (not the new Will at all, these days) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmwatson at xxx.uk Tue Sep 23 22:23:37 2003 From: kmwatson at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:23:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Oldsters Message-ID: >Now that the oldsters are back in force. Don't worry about it, I think it was a flash mob. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john at xxx.uk Tue Sep 23 22:32:52 2003 From: john at xxx.uk (John Jackson) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:32:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: fat lad exam failure References: Message-ID: <007301c3821a$50da4bf0$84a86ad5@johnjackson> > Suddenly everyone's piled back. Keith, I'll always have 'Male Stripper' by Man 2 Man meets Man Parrish spinning in my heart, just for you. Rod's getting married! (does everyone know this already? Are the young ladies of today's Sinister weeping silently into their snakebite and blacks?) http://www.rodandjoyswedding.com/ it's all here! > Does anyone have the DVD yet No but I understand that one of the special features puts 20 minutes or so between each song on the DVD, just like they used to be on stage, live, as it was performed. > The Tygers of Pang Tang were on Never mind the Buzzcocks a minute ago. I've > always wondered what they sounded like - what with a belting name like that > and I wasn't disappointed. Did anyone else see it? Is anyone else a fan? I saw that, don't you remember them Keith? Anyone else want to expose themselves? I'm sure Martin Rissbrook (Mr Loverman himself) posted here a few months ago. No Manchester date for the tour, I see. Nor a Glasgow one. Or are there others to be announced? TYS JJ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmwatson at xxx.uk Tue Sep 23 22:50:34 2003 From: kmwatson at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:50:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: fat lad exam failure In-Reply-To: <007301c3821a$50da4bf0$84a86ad5@johnjackson> Message-ID: I love Man 2 Man meets Mann Parrish - more thanks to Robert "Macca" McTaggart than anything; until he played it I'd half forgotten the record. I've been enjoying Diana Ross' Diana record this week two (it had its price remastered on Monday) and that Elton John single that's in the charts... hmmmm. >I saw that, don't you remember them Keith? I do remember their name gay J (who couldn't), just not actually hearing them - which if memory serves, means I didn't attend the Reading festival in the early 80's. Still, looks like I'm gonna have to check out some of their long-players now - that bloke had one mighty haircut! Check this one out, this looks good especially with its crazy, pun-filled title and belting song titles. It also sounds good, turn up the volume on your analytical engine, it's got a track on it too called "Detonation"! http://www.angelair.force9.co.uk/sjpcd146.htm I see they're also from Whitley Bay which has a fantastic, knopfler-based rock heritage as we all know. As for old people from the list, good old Andreas P!O!P! 'Perfection as a hipster' Hering put a single solitary post on a few months ago. >No Manchester date for the tour, I see. Nor a Glasgow one. Or are there >others to be announced? Come and visit! There's one in Edinburgh. We could even have a picnic and talk about the Field mice. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rclander at xxx.com Wed Sep 24 07:01:07 2003 From: rclander at xxx.com (Richard Lander) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:01:07 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Some other stuff Message-ID: <008a01c38261$3f686270$0202a8c0@ibmg6snbjaelz4> An new interview with the Struan can be found here. http://www.theonionavclub.com/3937/feature1.html +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bulkdavid at xxx.com Wed Sep 24 07:29:27 2003 From: bulkdavid at xxx.com (David Hewitt) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:59:27 +0930 Subject: Sinister: a little short for a stormtrooper Message-ID: G'day again, Sinister. There's a moderately interesting interview with Stuart Murdoch on The Onion AV Club this week: http://www.theonionavclub.com/3937/feature1.html Modest sort of chap, isn't he? I realise that just posting links isn't really the done thing, but perhaps you can balance this out with the several pages of self-indulgent crap I posted the other day, and we'll call it even, eh? Bulk love, -Vanilla Flavoured David. PS: Will Porter, you're a handsome devil. It wasn't my idea to leave the country, honest. But I'll be back - especially now I know there's a snog in it for me. _________________________________________________________________ Chat via SMS. Simply send 'CHAT' to 1889918. More info at http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/MoChat.asp?blipid=6800 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com Wed Sep 24 08:36:12 2003 From: a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com (a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Which Backstreet Boy do YOU want to sleep with? Message-ID: <20030924073615.19620.h012.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> Sinister! I am back, and I'm not going anywhere. I am skipping class in this very moment, but I was late anyways and who gives a fuck anyways, huh? I hear the "aaah!" from my imaginary daytime-talkshow-audience. Last night I had the best conversation with Amanda on the phone. We were just having the usual conversation about our future career as the world's greatest band, rock men and The Simpsons when everything turned very, very, weird indeed: Amanda: I know you wanted that guy we met before meeting Stevie and Sarah. Me: The guy with the "I'm Twee" t-shirt? Amanda: Well who else. There were only weird record company women and him there. Me. True. Well, hell yeah woman! Of course I wanted him, he was lovely. A: are you saying you would've had sex with him there if you could? M: I'm not saying anything woman. I'm just sayin he was a might fine man... AND I WOULD, BUT ON A BACKSTREET! A: EW! Really? M: Nah, I'm just trying to gross you out. A: You did. And because you said backstreet, I'm afraid we have to choose a Backstreet Boy to have sex with in a dark... backstreet. M: Fuck off! A: I'd choose Nick. M: But... A: It's alright, you can choose him to. M: I don't want to sleep with any of them, they are the ugliest people on earth. Urgh. But ok, thanks. A: You could always get... Howie! M: AHHH! In that case, you'd get Brian! A: Well, he'd be my second choise. M: SHUT UP! You've even thought about this before. I didn't even like the Backstreet Boys when I was ten years old and had a crappy taste in music. But Brian? COME ON! He looks like some sort of overgrown freaky baby, especially when singing those high notes. A: True. M: The Backstreet Boys... Amanda, Amanda, where is this going? A: I don't know. I just wanted to ask. M: Hmmm. I'm worried about you. Anyways, did you see the new Simpsons episode? A: Ah yes, how good was that? M: It was really fucking good tonight. There were too many good parts. I loved the part when the ushers at the cinema had to chase Homer away from the movies with movie-sized Kit-Kats. A: Oh yeah, that was brilliant. I love The Simpsons. M: Me too. Have you seen the commercial? A: When Homer's freestyle-playing the banjo with a poisonous snake? M: Yep! A: I wish I could watch The Simpsons all the time. M: Me too. You want to hear our next big hit? A: Oh yeah, sure. Is it the one that sounds a bit like Interpol? M: The very same [guitar and singing break via phone] M: Let's listen to the reindeer section. [quiet, whilst putting on record. Listening for a wee bit. Simultaneously: Me: Uh huh! Yeeeeeh, feelin the flow feelin the flow... you ain't got no leeeegs... huh huh huh... we will rawk ya... WOOOORLD! Amanda: Sing it y'all... yes yes y'all... uh-HUH! The Phoners! BLING BLING! ... Me: did we just to a really frightening hip-hop jam? Amanda: I'm afraid we did. Me: But then, we always do. Amanda: Yeah. Me: We need a hip-hop alter ego to go by. Amanda: Yes yes y'all. RepreSENT! Me: Get ready for The Phonizzlas world! [fits of giggles for about ten minutes] Me: Do you really think we'll take over the world with our super catchy music? Amanda: Have you ever doubted it? Me: I've had my moments. But in my heart I knew all along that we're good. Amanda: Good. Because we are. ---------- That was all of the egocentric, perverse and bizarre The Phoners-conversations for now, people. To conclude: Amanda and I are smug and bizarre and would say no to any Backstreet Boy in any backstreet any day. And the reason I'm not in Natural Science is because the teacher is Swedish, this is an English school and he simply CANNOT speak English. He's making up words. We're spending a billion weeks (or four) on waste water treatment plants, and I am not in the mood for learning about "sandfangs", "flockolation" or "bassangs". So til next time. Astrid xx Ps. A shout out to my homiez (notice the z): Anders, Chris, Dirty Vicar, Fran, Ruffy and all the others. --------------------------------------------------- Who would you rather be - Ted Danson or Kevin Costner? Fab: Who the fuck is Ted Dancer? Ted Danson. Fab: Oh, Danson. Nick: I think Ted Danson wears a toupee. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From staralful at xxx.com Wed Sep 24 08:55:40 2003 From: staralful at xxx.com (Jonathan Skinner) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:55:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: in the game of chess you can't let the opponent to see your pieces Message-ID: Wellity wellity wellity. Isn't it grate to see the list all active again just as ms mcneill was leaving. is there a connection i hear you all ask? the long answer yes with an if and the short answer is no with a but. I am not of the ancients or elders of this list. although i did join in '99 when brit pop was still at it's dizzying heights and the strokes were still finishing elementary school. Actully that new strokes song is great. i sat through 2 whole hours of gonzo ( which is strange in itself) to see it. i am a bit confused though. the song ended suddenly and switched into something else. is this the song or poor editing on MTV's part. i hope it is the latter. so first of all i suppose i should explain myself. i am back and i hope it is ok. there nuff said. second of all i had the dogs bollox of a summer and it came to an end. with a bang. spent it in barcelona which was nice and sunny and so so so cheap. ( a round of beers for four people in a bar in the gothic area cost ?8 compared to a round of similar beers here costing ?16) i was never so glad to be a wage slave in ireland as it meant i could live like royalty (without the inbreeding) for a month and still come back with money with which to wipe my arse. our landlord screwed us out of our deposit however and now i again have to be a wage slave to pay itoff. in other news i started uni yesterday. looking around the lecture theatre there were people in tracksuits and foxy celtic hair pasted down with gel. i have expected to be egged for wearing a bag that wasn't jansport. then there was also the arty types that i expected to see including one particularly good looking girl that had huge earphones and a mad long dr whoesque scarf. out of the 1000 freshers the dean said yesterday that 45% of us will probably drop out. i hope not. i like the lower half of my body. i suppose i could adjust to walking around on my hands but i don't think i should have to. in music news i must say the new b+s stuff has me a bit excited. piazza new york catcher is perhaps the best thing that they have produced in a long long long time. i can;'t wait to hold the grubby album in my pristine hands. i have been listening a lot to beth gibbons. if you don't have it buy it, everyone else is so why shouldn't you. Yann Tiersen plays Cork next month which i am very very very excited about. right i am off to tie my scarf properly and practice my affectations Ta Ta J...o...n...a...t...h...a...n +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mike at xxx.uk Wed Sep 24 22:08:17 2003 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:08:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Like wild beasts, lurking in loathsome den Message-ID: <1064437697.12462.7.camel@greatnorthern.demon.co.uk> All this talk of old times has brought me out of hibernation...This morning I booked my ticket for Bath Pavillions on 7th December. Something (desperately needed) to look forward to. Looking backwards however, I decided to search the Sinister Archives to see what bilge I used to post when I was last here. Weirdly, whilst seeing things I posted in the past usually makes me cringe, my old sinister postings made me smile. I crashed in on Wed, 27 Aug 1997 at 18:34:11 with a de-lurking post not dissimilar to this one - mentioning 'the new list', which suggests there was an old list, which I can't remember at all. I disappeared after the 5th November 1999 after confessing to attending a W.A.S.P gig eleven years previously. I think I needed to go away and think seriously about things after a confession of that magnitude... In between I rarely managed to post on topic, but people generally tolerated my musings. I hope you'll all indulge me once again. So, I'm back, the band are back, and today I can smell the winter coming for the first time this year. Happy days! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Thu Sep 25 02:50:12 2003 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 01:50:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: dear, uncatastrophe poster In-Reply-To: <20030924073615.19620.h012.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> Message-ID: To all the people who bemoan the fact that the new Sinister posters don't post like the old Sinister posters used to...I give you Astrid, so very nearly not of the parish, but thank tweeness (or whatever denomination you prefer) she still is. Embrace the new, I say. Astrid, girl. You need to write that world beating novel right now. And to anyone who isn't quite as impressed as I, two words: Second language. And two more: Funnier thanmostpeoplewhosefirstlanguageisenglish. And I don't even know one Backstreet Boy from another, officer. x ps - did anyone else in the UK watch the documentary "The Other World Cup" just now? Wasn't it just the most amazing documentary that's been on the TV for like, um, years? I know we like an underdog over here, but still...two underdogs battling it out! How exciting. Plus gorgeously shot, fantastic recurring motif of the bouncing football, and amazing music. If you missed it, the website is at http://www.theotherworldcup.com > From: a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com > Reply-To: a.s.t.r.i.d at nme.com > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:36:12 -0700 (PDT) > To: sinister at missprint.org > Subject: Sinister: Which Backstreet Boy do YOU want to sleep with? > > Sinister! > > I am back, and I'm not going anywhere. > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daisygreenlight at xxx.com Thu Sep 25 03:26:06 2003 From: daisygreenlight at xxx.com (miss lou) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: on your machine i slur a plea for you to come home. Message-ID: <20030925022606.3801.qmail@web60201.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinister. i am officially obsessed with the new death cab for cutie album. i promised myself i wouldn't take advantage of the opportunity to listen to it before it came out. but then, when faced with it, i (as with all things i truly love) gave in. the song is 'a lack of color.' move over photobooth (and i never thought i'd say that). *** i am happy the list is so nostalgic right now. it echoes that feeling i had a few weeks ago when i decided to come back. and. in a not so weird way, the way i felt when i joined. i feel like i don't know anyone again, and i kind of like it. *** the season is changing again in middle america, and i am ready for it this time. i had been wanting a gray, rainy day from the first day i moved into my new apartment; the front room is perfect for cloudy weather. and finally, a few weeks ago, it did rain; i was asleep on the couch, and i woke up to the sound. and lying there watching our cheap, pastel chiffon curtains move over the open windows, i knew this fall would be perfect, if only because the light in the apartment always is the softest yellow, and the sound of eleventh street below the windows always is a quiet bustle. when the leaves turn, our porch, three floors up and surrounded by trees, will be covered with reds and oranges-- i keep writing about colors. *** i hope, as in past times, no one decides to send me any poetry parrots, sestina weasles or villanelle vermin of any kind. i met with a professor this morning to discuss my thesis project, which, we decided, will be a collection of poems. i have to hand in ten to fifteen every three weeks, and i think if any literary wildlife showed up on my lovely windowsills, i wouldn't even have to go to the trouble of turning them away. the crazy look in my eyes, set to arrive in approx. 21 days, will be enough to frighten any poor soul. .xo.lou. ===== www.somewhereinbetween.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jpayne at xxx.org Thu Sep 25 19:55:04 2003 From: jpayne at xxx.org (Jenny Payne) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:55:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Almost Amish Message-ID: I've just been skimming through posts lately but I didn't hear a mention of the new David Byrne album "Lead Us Not Into Temptation" (music from the film "Young Adam") yet. It features members of Mogwai, The Delgados, Reindeer Section and Belle and Sebastian. It's fantastic and mellow and dreamy... and I think Byrne's done a good job of letting each of the participating groups shine in their own way. There's even a Mingus cover ("Haitian Fight Song") which is the most upbeat one. Some songs are similar to the better ones off "Storytelling..." the piano ones, not the crap ones with talking and sound clips from the movie! I was surprised to see this released on the Thrill Jockey label, one of my favorites. I am probably appreciating this album more than usual since I've had very little to listen to lately on my Walkman cassette player during the power outages from hurricane Isabel. This is day 8 with no power at home and it may be as long as October 2 before it's restored. At least I can use the water now without boiling it first. That was no fun. This is my first day back at work since last Wednesday because we didn't have power here either. I am trying to not be jealous of fellow Richmond Sinisterites whose names start with "V" WHO GOT POWER BACK ON SATURDAY! Grr grrrr grrrrrrrr. I'm sorry I missed Kim and others at the DC meetup and "The Wag." I went up to Philadelphia that weekend for My Morning Jacket, The Shins and Guided by Voices (amazing show!!!) and found out Matt Pond PA and Luna were the next night and that I could get a sweet hotel room for $100 cheaper than the usual rate.... so I stayed. There are so many interesting things to do in Philly I ran out of time. Hmmm, I wonder if I should head up for the Tower Theatre show????? Very near my hotel was Benjamin Franklin's grave. It's a large, simple flat slab of marble with his name and his wife's. Atop the marble were a bunch of pennies people had left. I'd never heard of this tradition and neither had the little girl next to me who asked her mother why it was done. Her answer? "Because his picture is on the penny!" As she looked closer at one of the pennies, she blushed and quickly led her child away by the hand as I snickered. hehe Jenny +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Fri Sep 26 07:58:23 2003 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:58:23 -0700 Subject: Sinister: The new albamum Message-ID: <037801c383fb$94ad2130$0a0110ac@pavilion> Eleven days and counting! Or ten days if you're in the UK. Or just THREE days if you're in Japan. Why does Japan get it a week early? It don't sound fair. Anyone in for a Tokyo meetup in 3 days? Fukkit, I'm flying over there. I gotta. I haven't been this excited for a release since... it would have to be... OK, Fold Your Hands. I know, I know, I could save myself $988 in airfare and just download the damn albumm, but I like the whole product, I like to LOOK at something while I listen to it, or at least hold it in my hands. Or else it's like meeting someone on the telephone. And did someone mention that the promo photo of the waitress (seen at www.dearcatastrophewaitress.com) will NOT be the albabumn cover? Whatta shame, if not. I love the picture. And her t-shirt... "Stressez-moi? Jamais!" is classic. I think they should use it. Pease remind me to have a shower, i keep forgeting and i probably smell grim. Thanks, Brier Brier's Homepage: www.brier.homestead.com This email ©2003 Courtesy of the Unspeakable Visions of the Individual +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Fri Sep 26 15:05:17 2003 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C Stride) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:05:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Offbeat 3/10 - promo night for DCW Message-ID: <3F7455AB.25851.40C6774@localhost> Hi all, Just in case anyone doesn't know already the next Offbeat on Friday 3rd October is a promo night for the new B&S album; there'll be a free picture raffle (i.e. tickets will have marginally-B&S-related pictures on them such as horses, pasties, tigers, mayflys etc), and the winners will get all sorts of DCW promo goodies - CD's, posters, videos, aprons (!?) And we'll be playing a few tracks off the album too of course.  However the main reason for posting this is to advise anyone coming, especially if you are trekking from afar, to get there early and queue up - the first Offbeat of term sold out much more rapidly than we expected, and with such goodies up for grabs and it being the Friday of the first week proper of term, we're expecting this one to be even busier. It could well be that if you're not in the queue before the doors open you won't get in next week. Having to turn people away is the most horrible thing about running the night, and we'd at least like to avoid having to turn away deserving cases if possible... :-(( Chris * Offbeat *   an indiepoppunk night   Friday 3rd October, 9pm to 1am   @ The Raynor Lounge, Sheffield University SU, Glossop Rd, Sheffield  admission £3.00 on the door includes free lollipops & stickers   playing classic leftfield indie, pop-punk, C86, new indiepop underground and lo-fi sounds from the likes of ... Belle and Sebastian - Pavement - Interpol - Delgados - Smiths - Sonic Youth - Pixies - Bright Eyes - Mclusky - Polyphonic Spree - Ballboy - Wedding Present - Hefner - Raveonettes - Strokes - Manics - Dead Kennedys - Fall - Blur - Field Mice - Kenickie - Sleater Kinney - REM - Grandaddy - Joy Division - Hives - Hidden Cameras - Stereolab - Nirvana - Pastels - Aislers Set - Gorky's Zygotic Mynci - Half Man Half Biscuit - White Stripes - Elastica - Super Furry Animals - Bis - Ash - Talulah Gosh - Futureheads - At the Drive-in - Helen Love - Idlewild - Dressy Bessy - British Sea Power - Moldy Peaches - Ride - ...Trail of Dead - Jesus and Mary Chain - My Bloody Valentine - Yummy Fur - Eels - Sebadoh - Buzzcocks - Urusei Yatsura - Rezillos - Dandy Warhols - Shop Assistants ... and many more  * more info' inc past playlists and admission details for non-students at www offbeatsheffield com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com Fri Sep 26 17:16:27 2003 From: a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com (a.s.t.r.i.d at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: You were right about the stars Message-ID: <20030926161628.20459.h027.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> Hi People, since i don't have a ocmputer with internet at home anymore (but a computer none the less) I have to write at the library. So, I will not be able to write anything during the weekend, so, I thought, hell, I'll write a short post. Things I wanted to tell you: 1. Thanks to Mr Watson and other people in the past I now feel really, really inspired to keep writing, so thank you. 2. Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot is so fucking good, plus that record has the best documentary by Sam Jones called I Am Trying To Break Your Heart... try to watch it because it's amazing. And Jeff Tweedy is lovely. 3. Brier was talking about a picture, which I think is the same one I saw B&S had used for cover when a journalist who had gotten a promo of it, so, are they using one pic for the promo of Dear.. or is it a totally different one? Hmm. 4. Sometimes there are so many thoughts inside my head that I don't know what to do with them. 5. I interviewed a band I sort of know but not really, mostly because I guess I'm a fan. Anyways, considering that it was a band consisting of boys between 20-23 yrs old, and that 3 out of 4 are super cute I think I did well even managing to speak. I'm so hopeless around boys. I really am. Ah. But this time, haha, I even took a nice, a NICE picture of them. I did the interview today. And It's gonna be in the culture section of one of two school papers which I'm both culture and cheif editor on. Our class is divided into two staffs and I boss around with my poor classmates. HAHA. I have to go now, dinner is a-waiting at my home and I am hungry, so, Love, Wilco, and autumn kisses Astrid xx --------------------------------------------------- Who would you rather be - Ted Danson or Kevin Costner? Fab: Who the fuck is Ted Dancer? Ted Danson. Fab: Oh, Danson. Nick: I think Ted Danson wears a toupee. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From monroej at xxx.com Fri Sep 26 21:00:06 2003 From: monroej at xxx.com (John F. Monroe) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:00:06 -0500 Subject: Sinister: fat lad exam failure Message-ID: <008e01c38468$c8b7cda0$fb85cfa9@yourw92p4bhlzg> a few days ago: Mr Watson said: > Does anyone have the DVD yet Mr. Jackson said: No but I understand that one of the special features puts 20 minutes or so between each song on the DVD, just like they used to be on stage, live, as it was performed. -------------------------- JJ, I really loved that. Considering it looks like old folks week, I wanted to post something. Where are the night owls who used to chat in #Sinister? I have run into a few people who provided me a little information about those I asked about. But the new kids didn't quite get into "Whell Of John" as I had hoped. Four and a half years passes and my typing is even _worse_. Come chat, I can tell you how I almost died - twice! That's my excitement for the past half-decade. That and finally The Fall came to Chicago-uh and didn't play "Chicago Now!" the bastards! I just noticed one can sing "Oswald Defence Lawyer" using the subject line... and I visited Buster Keaton's Italian villa in Hollywood, it was in in the middle of a restoration to bring back the glamor of the early 20th century. I spent a day in the place where every star of the 20's and 30's came to party; the sense of film history was heavy - and I got to talk to Leonard Maltin and actor James Karen. I stood on the battlefields of Gettysburg; watched dolphins at play off the shores of Georgia; was awed at the majesty of the Smokey Mountains; saw a bald eagle sittin' on a highway sign; visited the world's tiniest church; stepped into Mark Twain's octogon study and took a photo of his typewriter; loved and lost. I should put on "America" by Simon and Garfunkel after all that, but it is late and that means it is time for "AM Coast To Coast", hopefully it won't be about ghosts. -John +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Sat Sep 27 00:40:22 2003 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop-Apps) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Leer KENtastCHUphe Wanktress Message-ID: <20030926234022.81625.qmail@web9307.mail.yahoo.com> Hiya Sinisterines! Lots of people seem to have their hands on some sort of version of the new DCW album already, including myself and Ben. Maybe I just focus on the negative too much, but it seems like a lot of people who have heard it say they don't like it so much. To everyone out there who hasn't heard it yet, Ben and I think it's brilliant and we can't stop listening to it, so never fear. You just might like it, too. I think that if I didn't have it, I'd be sort of dreading its release because I'd almost be afraid of disappointment. But I'm excited - I can't wait to buy the real thing soon, too! The reason I like DCW so much is because it seems to be B&S on a different level. I don't need to hear the same type of thing from a band on every album, I like a bit of variety. This one has a great energy to it. It still sounds like B&S, but it's fairly upbeat. My favorite song is "Stay Loose". I think the influence of Trevor Horn really comes through on this one, and it's very '80's sounding. But there is a breakout bit in the middle that it very bare and you can hear how the song sounds without the effects - essential acoustic. Plus the opening line is "I was choking on a Corn Flake, you said 'Have some toast instead'" which just goes to show that the old Sinister Rachels breakfast theme has been influential on Belle & Sebastian, too! I like this song because I think it's a good ending track to the album, as well. But honestly, there is not one song that I don't like on the album. "Asleep On A Sunbeam" took a while to grow on Ben, but now he loves it, too. Speaking of breakfast themes, I must apologise for not responding about the LA treasure hunt sooner. Yes, the treasure was hidden at Iguana vintage clothing. It took the 3 girls who won (Mandy, Crystal and Esther) something like 8 hours to complete the treasure hunt. The treasure was tickets and passes for the LA show, and a cigar box that Stuart sent including a pink pig nail scrubber, a '60's style Scottish post card, a great pink brocade neck tie, a scarf, a cd of a Belfast gig, a 1938 Scottish Exposition Pin, a Belle et Sebastien child's book, and then I put the cigar box inside a box of Belle & Sebastian cereal that I made. Peter Crooks and I worked very hard to organize that treasure hunt, and I was very happy that 3 such nice people won it. We were very surprised that they found it so fast, though! In other news, MARIANNA LONGMIRE (the NEW Ken Chu of this season,) arrives at LAX on Sunday morning. She will be staying with myself and Mr. Bapps for 10 days and she will even be here for MY BIRTHDAY on Tuesday! Hoorah! We are beside ourselves with excitement! I dub next Thursday "Llewsday" as it is a certain LL's BIRTHDAY on that day! You still have time to shower her with gifts! Damn, us Libras are so cute, aren't we!?! You just can't resist! I hope that you're all well and having fun! love, Rachel fruitloop-Apps __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dafyd2001 at xxx.com Mon Sep 29 13:53:59 2003 From: dafyd2001 at xxx.com (dafyd strange) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 05:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: When you were a kid how fast could you run in slippers! Message-ID: <20030929125359.90314.qmail@web12806.mail.yahoo.com> hello everyone, I hope you are all fine & that everything in your lives is going well. I like a few other people here im sure haven't heard the new B&S album yet, but never fear as Londons XFM radio station are playing the whole album tomorrow night (30th september) on Xposure which is on between 11pm and 1am. People who dont live in london village can listen to the station using the internet and point there mouses to here www.xfm.co.uk & if you wanna see a little pic of Stuart holding a dog then goto here http://www.xfm.co.uk/Article.asp?id=5358 . In other news there is another chance to get your dancing boots on and your laughing gear round a few beers at Tigermilking on October 11th. Its at the Betsy Trotwood which is 56 Farringdon Road, and the nearest tube is Farringdon. The night starts at 8 and goes along till 1am with many superstar Dj's from this very list! details can be found here www.undermybed.org/tigermilking . the night is the same day England play Turkey at football and that kicks off at 6 so if anyone wants to meet us at the Trotwood for post tigermilking footie action then arrive at 6! Cheers!!!!!! DAf __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark.hester at xxx.com Mon Sep 29 14:55:05 2003 From: mark.hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I'll admit today I've gone too far Message-ID: <20030929135508.29028.h009.c000.wm@mail.nme.com.criticalpath.net> ok, so I've just booked my ticket for the Astoria gig on Friday, 5th December and I've suddenly realised that this will be the centralest of Central London gigs I've ever been to, that's if you don't count the dreadful Capital Radio thing at the Hippodrome I went to when I was fifteen with Jaki Graham and Curiosity Killed the Cat (aargh!). The Astoria misspellt the band's name tho: http://www.carlinglive.com/venue_content/carling_astoria.htmlnogig?todo=search&genre=general&ev=&tp=&sb_date=29%2F9%2F2003&date_field=&page=6&recs=10&sortorder=&id_venue=67585# Tsk! I think I might be considered odd. I'm certainly considered odd in the office. Over lunch we were teasing one of my colleagues who owns a Ford Orion, of which he is intensely proud. His trusty steed has not been too well of late and as he enquired, trembling, about its state of health at the garage over his mobile phone, we had a little debate about whether the Orion is a bloke's car or a girl's car. I came to the conclusion that hatchbacks are bloke's cars and saloons are girl's cars as it is simply the pockets versus handbags thing writ large. I then had to suffer the indignity of having everyone else at table sidle away from me nervously, with worried looks on their faces. No, I think I'm weird for other reasons too. One big reason is that I have never fully endorsed the whole mp3 downloading thing. Not for any legalistic or moral reasons, but simply because I actually enjoy going to a shop and purchasing something tangible and taking it home in anticipation. So I'll be waiting for the proper release date of DICKYWUSS. In the days leading up to its release, I have begun to listen to all the other albums in turn and I suppose this leads me to belatedly add my contribution to the FISHYCLAP/TWATTYBUS debate. I don't actually believe FISHYCLAP to be an inferior album at all. I think it's all to do with the ordering of the tracks. My favourites are at the beginning (I Fought in a War and the Model) and the end (There's Too Much Love). ON TWATTYBUS however the gems are very much interspersed with the weaker songs. Incidentally, I wasn't too keen on Simple Things when it first came out, for some reason and now I absolutely adore it! I'm always impressed when songs clock in at less than two minutes and are *still* wonderful....it seems like the epitome of the songwriter's art to have made a statement in less than the time that it takes some people to even get started. I wonder whether it was a trick picked up from Lawrence, as another song which is so brief yet so complete is Felt's How Spook Got Her Man from Pictorial Jackson Review. I wonder what happened to Mick Bund? Bassist on that album, co-writer of St. Etienne's Marble Lions and then nothing, so far as I can tell. Cheers Dafyd, for pointing out what time the footie starts, I had visions of a later kick off and people having to divide their loyalties, hmmmm. Fortunately not. You neglected to mention that http://www.xfm.co.uk/Article.asp?id=5358 features SARAH as well....what has the poor girl ever done to you ;). Yours (oddly), Mark. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname at nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Mon Sep 29 21:58:18 2003 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:58:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: i went to tesco and almost punched a baby Message-ID: Mark said this, and it was as if he was reading the thoughts in my brain: <> Yeah, I totally agree with all of that. I don't think that FISHYCLAP is an amazing album by any stretch of the imagination, but I do think that TWATTYBUS is generally a bit overrated. In fact, I seem to remember saying this ages ago, and making a rash prediction about their new album being a work of eclectic genius. Hmm, let's see: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200108/msg00236.html I think people should start sending in reviews of the new album. Go on, it's not long till it's released.. Here's to Stephen Pastel for the new Dr Who.. Rx _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From loulouhex at xxx.com Mon Sep 29 23:29:27 2003 From: loulouhex at xxx.com (Vilkas D'Angelo-Horvath) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:29:27 -0400 Subject: Sinister: fcuk Message-ID: Hey Yous, Twee? My ass. Ok now that that's been taken care of. I HATE MY JOB quite a bit. If my managers were parents, which sadly they are, they would be fucking reported to socail servcices for mental abuse. Y'know, I'm faster than the production rate; just let me do my job and piss off. How much faster can I go. Fer fuckssakes. I work in funny building where the interior decoration was apparently modeled on the pentagon. Or a more modern airport. Or a Rennie-Mackintosh built out of Legos. Like a JG Ballard book. I enter payment information. Make me laugh cos I feel like i'm working in a radiohead song. I started this letter a month or so ago; I was gonna bitch about how it's Hot As Fuck up in here. But now, it's Pleasant and Sunny. This is why my friend suck: http://homepage.mac.com/jesse_eryn/Menu1.html. Not only are they in Florence, but they have a digital camera to remind all of us stuck in the states. I just put my first show this autumn up. It's paintings and it rocks so hard. Cocky? Moi? Oh but the second show goes up in a month; and the paintings for that one are all sitting in my studio...Not quite finished. Dammit dammit dammit, lest i enjoy a small moment of goodness. Optimo and Divine I misss youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. Lurve, Vilkas _________________________________________________________________ Instant message during games with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daisygreenlight at xxx.com Tue Sep 30 04:48:30 2003 From: daisygreenlight at xxx.com (miss lou) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: it's really bursting at the seams, absorbing everything, spectrums a to z. Message-ID: <20030930034830.3663.qmail@web60203.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinister. jesus. (note: 'jesus' used in a rather cursing, sinful way, not to denote an address to the person (person?) belonging to said moniker.) anyway. jesus. i am a drama queen of the worst sort, i suspect. or, i used to be. i'd like to think in some way, during my time away from sinister or after the separation from old friends and quasi-lovers i lost some of my likely characteristic flair for the dramatic. but, reading some old posts and short-shorts and poems tonight, followed by some of the new, i realized i probably haven't changed all that much -- perhaps i've just figured out some way to cram as much high drama as possible into a terse line. maybe it's like learning to dance in a small space. and i've always liked that idea, really, thinking about the best way to fully extend yourself in some height of happiness or, whatever, energy in spite of the space you are in. if i ever learn to do that really, truly properly, i think i will have done something kind of like living. *** i am to go to california in three weeks now. and i haven't bought my plane ticket yet. not that i don't want to go, or can't afford to. i do. i've just ... put it off. some of the motive for doing so (though it wasn't necessarily a motivated delay as much as pure procrastination) is probably because, over the last month, i have developed a gi-normous fear of flying. (which means dancing in small spaces will become crawling up the walls of said small spaces.) i've never been on an aeroplane, you see. and i know the reason we all fear crashes is because, really, we think they happen more often than they do thanks to media coverage. but, thinking about it, plane crashes are a big (and not so common) news deal. a friend of mine said this weekend that perhaps i, like a lot of other people, prefer to travel by car because, in a sense, i can still feel the ground beneath my feet. but if i am going to see a love, perhaps it is better that my feet do leave the ground, and that my stomach does float for a while. maybe i can get it out of the way by the time i get off the plane and into the sunshine and all that. encinitas is about twenty minutes from san diego, i hear. and an hour and a half from los angeles. and about a half hour from mexico. and where i'll be, trying to figure out of life is about falling in love or falling out of it. maybe it's about both. maybe it's about moving everywhere in a spsce designed to nowhere (or everywhere). whatever the case, i am scared, and taking flight advice: board early if possible chew gum suck ice listen to music write envision departing plane to waiting arms, etc. look out window reserve aisle seat sleep relearn the art of crocheting envision self smoking glorious, satisfying cigarette yes, i will definitely take that last bit of advice. without a doubt. they say california is a black hole -- lou.xo. ===== www.somewhereinbetween.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarahsonnic at xxx.com Tue Sep 30 12:11:49 2003 From: sarahsonnic at xxx.com (Sarah Garrett Sonner) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 04:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Wife Swap anyone? Message-ID: <20030930111149.86278.qmail@web40907.mail.yahoo.com> Whatup. Astute viewers of the UK's channel 4 in the past week or so will have noticed that the music in the ad for tonight's episode of "Wife Swap" is none other than the instrumental bit and whistling of TBWTAS. I am now tempted to watch. Does TV sampling pay anything worthwhile? I hope it throws some bling the band's way. Mr Stout made a request for reviews of the new album to come out of the closet. I hesitate to admit, but I've heard it, and the first time I played it I put it on while I was doing something else, and then ended up sitting on the coffee table with elbows on knees while it played out, the something else forgotten for the time being while I listened. The new direction others remarked on in the style evokes some kind of vague childhood memory of mine involving dusty radios and riding in cars with vinyl seats, passing kudzu on the side of the highway at 70 mph. A time before neon colors were invented. Concretely though, "Stay Loose" reminds me heavily of David Bowie's "Ashes to Ashes." This is a good thing, I think, but if your tastes run not to earlyish Bowie, don't fear. There have been lots of songs about baseball, but "Piazza, New York Catcher" has to be the best song about baseball ever. I am in love with it. There are others on there that I love slightly (but only slightly!) less, but nothing yet that stays with me like that one. Thanks to David Hewitt for articulating that peculiar angst felt by us middle-ish children of the list. I hope everyone's doing alright out there, however aged you are. I wonder if any arab straps will appear on Wife Swap tonight. xox sgs and HAPPY BIRTHDAY Rachel Fruitloop-Apps! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wp237567 at xxx.uk Tue Sep 30 13:04:51 2003 From: wp237567 at xxx.uk (wp237567 at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:04:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: XXXX male rape pictures XXXX Message-ID: <1064923491.3f7971631d558@webmail.staffs.ac.uk> Looks like the Geenland coalition government is collapsing again! Some od the most politically astute of you would say " I told you so", but I really didn't see it coming! Poor old Hans Enoksen. On a political bombshell such as that I can carry on with the rest of the mail with the knowledge you're all absolutly hooked I haven't heard the new album yet, and probably won't until several days after it's released as it makes its way across the country from the cheapest supplier of CDs I can find, so shan't be tlking about that this time After my one ever single post, a long time ago before it were summer and I grew my minalmist sideburns, I finally feel the need to post, I've wanted to try and wait until I had someting relevant to say, but unsuprisingly this never happened and so now I will talk about the nearly relevant or quasi relevant or quasi-nearly psuedo relevant...Here we go? Well, nearly...quasily Arguments about genre by those who've been persucuted for not pursuing the standard mainstream genre, did not surprise me, but in order to stoke that fire (stoke needs a fire stoked its turning into winter here) I have this link to a game obsessed with sub-cultures and genres of mostly U.S. music: http://www.emogame.com/ warning: It has pixelated male rape good news: I has pixelated male rape Oh I see we're supposed to be pursuing people to snog on here, oops when do pursuing become snogging anyone? Drat(remember him?), being out the loop I've missed the easiest gigs to get to, I'm now 'in the loop' and should get NME ticket alerts so when belle and sebastian tour again I can get a nice Friday night gig in a city I can get to. I know I shouldn't be ashamed of my virginity and proud of my willingness to wait for the special gig, but I still haven't managed a B&S gig. oooh, I had a dream I was in a small CD shop and saw a new Belle and Sebstian album. I was just thoikning to myself how glad I am for the lack of bltant commercialism from Belle and Sebastian, or its label (It's normally pretty subtle) but was shocked to find the CD I was looking at was 'Billy Bragg sings Belle and Sebastian'. What's that about then? stay cool kids, or cool by not being cool Neil ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephanowic at xxx.it Tue Sep 30 14:40:55 2003 From: stephanowic at xxx.it (Stefano [Steady-State]) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:40:55 +0200 Subject: Sinister: places, seasons, something Message-ID: Dear Sinister Hope you all are very well. I have been staying in my native country, spending some time in my hometown, in the last few weeks. I always find a bit odd to come back here. At times is feel like nothing has ever changed. Or will ever change. Places and people looks like the same. To me at least. And I have been away for a while now. Sometimes is like nothing is the same, places and people. Almost unrecognisable, and I have not been away that much, after all. I guess is only about my perception of things. I was driving through the county this week end, over the hills, just to waste some times. I’ve got very mixed feelings about driving. I can enjoy it very much, or I can hate it badly. Especially when I crash my car against someone else’s new fashionable one. I’ve bought my own nth-handed from my younger brother. He can drive. And love his car. I guess. The last time I have been driving without a destination we ended up in Switzerland. It is not that far as it might sound, indeed is just a few tens of miles from the little town I live, but is I rather nice drive flanking the lake. There was snow on the mountains. I didn’t get anything that far anyway this time. I never feel adventurous when I drive on my own. But I’ve been listening to my old tape copy of the boy with the arab trap, and felt in a good company. When I got to the top I didn’t see the picture I expected. A few violent storms has brought down a lot of trees. Where’s the wood gone? I can see the five-hundred-souls village from there. I parked my car in a field. It was eleven o’ clock when I’ve heard the bells ring. I’ve waited to hear the mermaids sing as well, but all I caught was the wind’s murmur. Since I move to England, my first feeling, while being back in this place, is that I don’t want be able to live here anymore. Might be I just want to run away from my past. The memory of childhood, for the few I have. Or adolescence, admitting I am only an overgrown teenager. And then, in turn, it would mean running away for my present. Which is possibly all I ever done. I often looked at the floor when people talked to me. I simply can’t wait to be back in my small room somewhere in north London. The weather has been on rainy mood the last few days, and the sky almost obscured by light grey clouds. Reminds me someway of London, the days I don’t like it. But the sun’s shining today, and I remembered why I like the Autumn. I think are the leaves copper and the bronze, the way the vermilion stain fades into a pale orange, and then yellow. Even the way the rain falls, light and subtle in the woods, and the smell of the earth beneath the pines. The dense fog over the pond lane, and the tickling of the drops over the lake surface. Rainbows. And I finally I think I see that I can see, why so many people are blind to the weather, and the spring, and the simplest that could bring them together, Your, rather steady Stefano -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: lent you my favorite dictionary came back with ripped out pages stopped by so uninvited wasted good silverware on you can't trust violence. -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From borokitty at xxx.com Tue Sep 30 20:49:41 2003 From: borokitty at xxx.com (Amy Skelton) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:49:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: One more sleep to go.... Message-ID: ... before I fly out to Bangladesh. There are times when I can't cope with the amount of emails in my inbox whilst in the UK never mind when I go away. Thus, I think it's time for me to leave you lovely peeps (for the time being anyway). Stay well. Enjoy the tours and meet-ups over the year kids! Amy P.S. Mark O - I sent you an email on Sunday but there's a wee bit of bother with it getting to your inbox. I will resend again if it fails completely (hope it doesn't) _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Sep 30 23:09:28 2003 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: its just my opinion, and, what do i know... Message-ID: <20030930220928.80418.qmail@web41112.mail.yahoo.com> Hey sinister, Robin Stout cast the first dare/ stone: I think people should start sending in reviews of the new album. Go on, it's not long till it's released.. The new album huh? I think I'm going to make myself unpopular here, and say I don't like DCW. A few points to note: I'm not looking for Tigermilk part 5. This has been suggested, and I think it is a bit lame for anyone to dismiss my opinion by suggesting that's why I don't like it. It seems to be a natural assumption that not liking the latest album means that you want old skool B&S back. Not true. I understand that music moves on, I just don't like this chosen route. Not once have I reminiced and wanted Tigermilk or IYFS or TBWTAS back. I loved those for what they were. I think there have been much better albums released of late. The argument that "don't compare it to their previous work, compare it to what else is around" doesn't really wash when you have bands around like the Aislers Set and Camera Obscura, who can release an album that I think, is pretty bloody good. I just can't get into the new album at all. To me, it sounds like all the half-arsed ideas that never made it onto the previous B&S releases have been shown the light of day, and released, and this isn't a reference to Lord Anthony, which I am not keen on. I fail to find anything remotely genius about "I'm a Cuckoo". I can imagine Stuart, sitting with notebook in hand on a park bench in Glasgow, pondering to himself... "cuckoo.. What ryhmes with cuckoo? poo, loo, mew, queue, two, too, dew, due, new, flu... thin-lizzy-oh..! yes! Thin Lizzy Oh! Torquay-oh! that'll do!" The lyrics, in my opinion, are weak. I don't like them. They used to write with sharpened wit, with intelligence. The innuendo used to be so much more subtle, and I enjoyed that. Yes, I am slightly talking about old-skool B&S, but it's not just old B&S that gave me that kick - it's something I find fundemental to my enjoyment of a song, be it B&S or any band that I listen to regularly. I'm hard to please, I know. There isn't anything that really catches my attention with the new album. I like Piazza, New York Catcher. The sort of albums I enjoy though tend to have more than one or two good songs. A good album, for me, is one that has several good songs, and perhaps a small minority of crap ones. I think the latest album is a little too sugary, a little overbaked, and a little egotisical. The songs , in my opinion, feel effortless, but rather than being casual and organic, they feel more like there has no interest at challenging their ablities to create a good song. It's a lazy album, as if half a dozen ideas have been randomly thrown into the album, and nobody bothered to think about it or listen. In an interview*, the link of which was recently posted by Richard Lander, Stuart said "I just got this image in my mind of a cake, of writing songs being like baking a cake. The autobiographical part of things is like the flour, and the romance side of things and the fantasy part are like the sugar and eggs." If that is the case, then this surely, has to be a fairy cake - too much sugar, too much colour and too many preservatives. It's rather too sickly to listen to more than a few times, too saccharine. I think it sounds... I dunno.. A little childish, a little infantile with the lyrics, and a little sugary with the over production. Its been completely over baked. There. Hate me. Love idles x ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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