From billrogers_1 at xxx.com Mon Aug 2 11:51:30 2004 From: billrogers_1 at xxx.com (Nathan Reader - Wilson) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 03:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: A must read report back. Message-ID: <20040802105130.20299.qmail@web41314.mail.yahoo.com> Well well...they came at last. Hi all, after months of super-excitement leading up to the show, I finally got to see them in Melbourne! I am from Adelaide (in South Aus. for all you non-aussies), so I made the trek with my girlfriend to Melbourne. It was well well worth it... When we got to our hotel, which was just down the road from the Palais Theatre where thay were performing, we started chatting to the hotel-desk-guy (a respectable title), and told him why we were there, the conversation went something like this...*uhem* Me: Why hello sir, may you be so kind as to check us in? Desk-dude: Yup Me: By the way, we are here to see a super-dooper band from Scotland tomorrow night. Desk-dude: Would that be Belle and Sebastian? Me: Why yes, how did you know? Huh!? How!!? Desk-dude: Why Sir, it's just that they are all staying in the hotel... Me: *THUD!* (me hitting the floor) ------------------ Anyhow, it went something like that. But the important thing was they were in the same hotel!! All plans were immediately scrapped and the plan was to hang out in the lobby for the next three days...well, i would have but my girlfriend wasn't going to Melbourne and coming back to Adelaide without shopping. So I figured I'd run into them anyway. Myself and a few friends all went in and bought a copy of Catcher In The Rye and all signed it and wrote a "how are you doing" kind of thing in the cover, in the hope that I might run into Stuart. When I got back to the hotel, I thought that maybe I could get Desk-dude to call Stuart's room and ask him to come down, which he let me do, and even gave me the phone while it was ringing!! But he didn't answer, all hope was far from lost!! As I was doing this in the lobby, Stuart walked right behind me and was waiting at the elevator to go up to his room. It was now or never...I built up all my courage and went over to him. Me: Excuse me Stuart? Stuart: Mmm hmm. Me: Umm..uhem..I...I was wondering if I could get an autograph? (on a tigermilk record cover which i carried around with me everywhere while in the hotel) Stuart:Umm, sure, but I really need to take a pee (laughs) Anyhow, I ended up having a quick chat and getting an autograph and a photo, it was wicked!! To wrap up, as my hand is getting sore, throughout our stay we bumped into Stuart three times, Chrissy G! three times and Sarah once just after the concert. I also had a 10-15 minute chat with Chris about the band, how they met, why Isobel left, how good her current work is etc. If you have any questions or would like my autograph (J/K, just e-mail me. I hope all the Australian listees enjoyed their concerts!! Until next time. Have a good week everyone. xxox Nathan P.S - Colin, sorry sorry, tapes are in motion. Give me another week. PPs- Astrid, yes I am still at the same address. and HI! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pj-miller at xxx.uk Mon Aug 2 11:21:32 2004 From: pj-miller at xxx.uk (Peter Miller) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 12:21:32 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Stuart on Radio 2 References: <20040730145225.68630.qmail@web86311.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001a01c4787c$1fab14c0$baca30d5@oemcomputer> > "Stuart Murdoch will be selecting the "Tracks of My > Years" on BBC Radio 2 every morning for the week Aug > 2nd - 6th. The feature is part of the Ken Bruce show, > although as Ken is on holiday, the show is being > presented by Stuart Maconie. > > Guests on "Tracks of My Years" select two songs a day, > songs which were either inspirational or which > symbolise a special period in their life, then they > have a wee chat explaining why they chose them. > > The Ken Bruce is on between 9.30am and twelve noon. > The "Tracks of My Years" feature is "usually" on at > around 10.30am I believe." This has just been on. It was v. good. I thought they had forgotten it because it didn't come on until ten minutes beofre the end, or thereabouts. Stuart chose 'A New England' by Kirsty MacColl and 'Let The Sunshine In' by Julie Driscoll and Brian Auger and Whatever They Were Called. If you live in the colonies, or are at work, or can't listen for some other reason, or even if you're the kind of person who just likes to spoil things for him or herself, here is a list of Stuart's choices: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/bruce/tracks/index.shtml?thisweek I'm particularly looking forward to Friday. It reminds me of the golden age of Alton Towers, when the most exciting thing was the boating lake. I am taping this for Mooro, but if anyone else wants to tape it, good idea. I might miss it one day and then Mooro will strafe me with his Me 109. Maconie also played Lloyd Cole and the Commotions' classic follow-up single, 'Lost Weekend'. This came at a time when Lloyd said he wanted to be both a singles and an albums band, like The Beatles. Girls! Here is a picture with Ken Chu enjoying a massive pint in the background: http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pumpkin/2004_07_01_pumpkinpublog_archive.html #109109502153374505 Incidentally, my mother says two pints is a quart. Cheers, Sister Disco +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Mon Aug 2 13:18:36 2004 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 05:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: 10 MacArthur Park Message-ID: <20040802121836.24128.qmail@web40410.mail.yahoo.com> It is true, what Sister Disco said. The programme was on, today! I remembered just in time. I found Murdoch to be a better interviewee, a much better one, than most of those who appear on, or in, this slot. He seemed more intelligent, or to have more thoughts in his head on which to draw. He seemed, I mean, to have something to say about music - this music, that he asked them to play - and its connections with (his) life. The music was good also. I don't need to hear that version of 'A New England' again, now, as against once, when I had never heard it, but still, it is good. He liked the fact that she wrote new verses. Surprisingly, he didn't quite seem to know that Bragg was involved in the rewrite, so that the cover was not, I think, cheeky but authorized. I was surprised how good the second track was. Julie Driscoll sounded like she was going to be boring, but actually she sounded like a 1960s Isobel Campbell, with a singing voice, of some kind, singing a Murdoch lyric, to a Belle and Sebastian soul-music backing. In fact, forget the Campbell bit, a blue herring. She sounded like Petula Clark singing with Belle & Sebastian? Really, it was fine. I think Cousin Clubnight has probably heard it all before, in the Saracen Head. I have found my old books for Advanced Dungeons and Dragons. But don't fret, I am not going to play it with you. I have found some DUNGEON FLOOR PLANS also. They let you go on a boat, with added Realism. I am going to tell Tom Ewing, an internet supremo, about it all. Ally 96 has started a band, with an electric guitar. That's what I heard. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Mon Aug 2 17:36:10 2004 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 16:36:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Seeing other people Message-ID: Hello Sinister. So I'm in the Boston Public Library, with 6 minutes left on this terminal before I get chucked off. Yes, it's not my usual habitat, but this isn't a usual post - sorry Sinister, this is gonna have to be short. I'm on holiday. Some of you may recall this fact from a previous post - others may have guess it from the fact that I'm in the Boston Public Library, and I'm a boy from London. So here's the point: We travel to Chicago tonight, and will be there until 8th August, and then will be moving on to Philadelphia until the 12th, then New York until the 17th, and then Reykjavik from 18th to the 21st. If there's any Sinister people out there who'd like to meet up with me and my charming mate James in any of the above places at any of the above times, please drop me a mail - it'd be great to meet up... (esp you, Maria from Finland - I deleted your email by accident, sorry!). Anyway, what say you, fair folk? Might be fun... Sorry for the abbreviated post and lack of CONTENT. Love, Asm.x ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From borokitty at xxx.com Tue Aug 3 08:18:04 2004 From: borokitty at xxx.com (Amy Skelton) Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 08:18:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Too much beer to choose from... Message-ID: For anybody in London between now and Saturday it's the Great British Beer Festival atThe Olympia http://www.gbbf.org Come and try a variety of lovely real ales while being entertained. Just have a little taste if you're not sure - you'll be pleasantly surprised. For those siniglasto types there will be delectable ciders and perrys on offer too. Sorry for the brevity. I'm heading down to the capital NOW to go and volunteer at the festival. As I'm a last minute addition to the staffing I have no idea where I'll be yet. I'll be wearing an upside down Offbeat badge for identification. In fairness the real reason I'm going is to get a return visa for Bangladesh. I've just cleverly timed it so my three days of waiting are all BEER days - hurrah! Any gig or club night recommendations in London are welcome as I won't be working ALL of the time. I will hopefully get to check my emails but I will definitely have my mobile: - 07835104132 Take care all, Amy _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iroth at xxx.fr Tue Aug 3 10:27:04 2004 From: iroth at xxx.fr (isabelle roth) Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 11:27:04 +0200 Subject: Sinister: message to French fans Message-ID: <410F5A67.F2BED2A9@club-internet.fr> Who is the person who made an "illegal" audio CD from all B&S material for "L'entrepot's" bar rue Sorbier 75020 Paris? The staff played it for our greatest pleasure! Nice choice of songs from Eps... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Tue Aug 3 22:19:07 2004 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 14:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: And The Children Drank Lemonade Message-ID: <20040803211907.79554.qmail@web40402.mail.yahoo.com> Let not the day go unmarked. Today, for the first time since the foundation of sinister, Sister Disco and Sruart Murdoch both appeared on a radio programme. If I am wrong and this has happened before, write to sinister and tell us. I turned on BBC Radio 2 at about 11:30, thinking: Murdoch's TRACKS OF MY YEARS is going to be on soon! Stuart Maconie is, you remember, replacing Kenneth Bruce for a week. He is doing a good job, in sooth, as they say in California, or, in truth - playing Lloyd Cole, talking to Stuart Murdoch, quoting Peter Miller, I mean, what more do you want? Anyway, Maconie said something like: - Ooh, I'd nearly forgotten, the feature that's named after me (what's it called again? remind us, Sister Disco) - and then he read out some puns on pop titles, relating to places in Wales. Casually, he continued: - Peter Miller suggests: - and I can't think what the exact words, the title, the place were. I did not write them down. But it was about the WHO, you see. YES, the WHO. I hope Mooro gets to hear it, possibly on an old-fashioned audio tape. I hope Sister Disco writes in and fills in the missing details too. The funny thing was: hearing Maconie read Miller's name, I felt as though he did it knowingly - the way I would, or some of you would, or the way Maconie would read, say, 'Paul Morley'. But I think this was probably an illusion, created from my mindset, in which Miller is a sort of major figure in fanzine-style online discussions of ROCK and other things. On reflection, I think that in reality, Maconie probably has no idea who Peter Miller is. Again, perhaps Sister Disco can set me straight on this. After the Miller moment, Maconie introduced Murdoch's first song. It was 'Do You Believe In Magic?', a song that Jerry the Nipper made famous, and of which Mr. David Moore gave me my first copy. It is very good. Murdoch then said, in a very high voice, things about how Orange Juice had always said in the early 1980s, things like, - We can never match this song, the only way is down. The funny thing is, they could never match that song - the only way was down. Endearingly, he then mentioned the Go-Betweens, in the same connection. I am reminded of the conversations I have had with Tim Hopkins in which OJ and the G-Bs become virtually two halves of the same imaginary entity, ie. you say one then you say another, and for me both mean: pop that people from a certain period like, but which sadly does not, *mostly*, live up to its reputation, being too scratchy and tuneless. So, Murdoch said something like: - I love the way that the Go-Betweens knew they could never write the perfect pop song / - which, in my paraphrase, is true. So, mixed feelings: a) he is silly to keep going on about those bands, but b) it is kind of touching, kind of keeps in touch, with eg. Peter Miller, on sinister. He spoke well, anyway. I stand by my statement of yesterday. The second track was something else, a soul track based on Bach; it was quite good. So, that was an exciting few minutes on Radio 2. What I have forgotten to mention is the way that Maconie went straight from Miller's joke to 'Life In A Northern Town'. I think it was the first time I have ever heard that song all the way through. It was a bit corny, but the way it sped up as it went was good. Once I asked Steady Mike about The Dream Academy, and *even he* did not know that much about them, though he owned a difficult second LP. I wonder two things: a) whether Maconie knows that Peter Miller comes from a Northern town; b) whether Murdoch will choose a track from Lloyd Cole, from that walk-in wardrobe that I mentioned before. And I suggest one thing: Miller should ring in with more puns, on subsequent days, and become a regular on this brief Maconie spot, and then he will be known to more people that like !P!o!P!! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Wed Aug 4 14:34:16 2004 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop-Apps) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 06:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: CHU move to the country, she comes back a KEN Message-ID: <20040804133416.70468.qmail@web52207.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister! On a rooftop in Lewisham, months ago, I promised the Pinefox that I would post to Sinister again when he posted again. I didn't mean to let him down; I won�t disappoint the PF, if I can help it. So, here I am� rock you like a hurricane. In mid-April, I moved to London from the Los Angeles suburbs. The two are not remotely similar. I brought Bapps with me, on account of him being my husband and we�re continuing to get on so well, and because he�s English and the reason I got a VISA. Can I tell you, moving to a different country is NOT easy? It is not easy. Moving isn�t easy, especially for me. It takes me a while to adjust to changes and feel comfortable. I knew I�d be starting over, but when I got to London I was shocked. Luckily, Ben and I found a flat right away and that helped me to settle down a bit. Once Ben and I got jobs, it helped even more. But there were a good 3 months before we got jobs when I felt as if it could all unravel at any point. I�m feeling the benefits of living in London now, and really enjoying myself. I love seeing so many great friends that I have made from Sinister on a fairly regular basis these days. It makes it even easier to adjust to life in a different country. Summer�s hastening on, and I�m wrapped up in books. I�ve been reading so much since I�ve moved here. I just have more idle time, especially now that it takes me over an hour to get to and from work on the buses and tube. I started reading Stuart David�s �The Peacock Manifesto� yesterday morning and finished it today. It�s a great book and quick to read. I especially liked it because of Peacock�s reactions when he travels to different U.S. cities that don�t live up to his expectations. I�ve had a similar feeling occasionally on road trips. Graceland is really small inside, I was hoping that Peacock would actually take the inside tour of Elvis� house and then bitch about it! Despite this omission, I think Stuart D is a very good writer. I'll read 'Nalda Said' next. I almost feel in writing this that I�ve shown up to a party wearing an outfit that is highly inappropriate for the occasion. I�m sure that most of you don�t even remember me. Which is quite a strange thought since my life wouldn�t be what it is today without Sinister. I suppose I am to blame for losing touch. I got a husband out of the deal and then jumped ship. I�ve been here the whole time, really, though, I�ve just been lurking. Maybe the stories of mailing-list romances just got to be too much. I can�t quite remember. What IS fresh in my mind is Belle & Sebastian at Somerset House on the 17th July. It was brilliant. I really enjoyed The Shins set as well. Ben said the singer of The Shins looks like Kevin Spacey and it made me giggle. When b&s arrived on stage and began playing songs from Tigermilk in succession, I didn�t think it could get any better. The most fascinating part was the shift in their sound when they played "Stay Loose", which is still my favourite song on DCW. I was dancing like mad, but I almost felt as if I was watching this on TV. It is awful to say this, but the previous times I had seen them in L.A. had been so laden with personal interaction with the band that this time almost felt like I wasn�t really there. This occurred to me as they played �The Wrong Girl� and I remembered dancing on stage to it three years ago � it is so far away, it�s as if I just made it up. Last year�s treasure hunt planning and t-shirt designing with Stuart Murdoch made seeing b&s live into much more of a production for me. This time, I didn�t even bother to meet up with anybody for a picnic beforehand. Ken did, however, bring his 2 pint glass over to stand with me and Ben for most of the show (that�s where he disappeared to, Stefano!) My anti-social behaviour made it easy to just soak in the performance, as simple as that. It was perfection, the picturesque setting and the music melted together and carried me away. By the end, I didn�t feel the need to speak to anyone from the band or create any other corresponding event to make the day complete like I may have done in the past. Does it mean that I�m getting boring? You tell me... Love, Rachel fruitloop-Apps __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stugardiner at xxx.com Wed Aug 4 21:56:34 2004 From: stugardiner at xxx.com (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 21:56:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm leaving, on a jet plane... Message-ID: Hmm, every time I send an email to Sinister at the moment, I'm in a different country. Such a glamorous jet-setting lifestyle I have these days. Erm, maybe. Actually, I've spent most of the last four weeks sitting on my arse at my parents' house, which is never fun. The parents but, not the sitting on my arse bit, obviously. I don't think I'd have made it this far through life if I objected to sitting down. Still, at some point in the next month or so - as soon as the paperwork's done, which will probably be a while since it involves the US embassy - I will be moving to Portland, Oregon. Because I've got a job out there, for the next two-years at least. Naturally, if anyone has any tips or advice about the place (where to go, where to live, how the hell to get there from the UK etc), I'm all ears. OK, not literally, pedants. In the meantime, since I'm moving countries, I'm having a big clearout of all my possessions which I don't want to take with me and/or can't carry to the plane. And part of that involves getting rid of my old cassettes, since I hardly ever listen to them any more, partly because I no longer own anything as low-tech as a tape-player. Amongst these tapes, there is quite a bit of B&S material; so I'm now offering it up to anyone who wants it. Sort of first come, first served, except if I get more than one reply I'll split the tapes up to be fairer. So not really first come, first served at all then. Actually, I'll give priority to anyone who can record them digitally and send me mp3 copies, since I haven't got the technology for that here. Or failing that, to whoever offers most sexual favours. The tapes on offer (note most of these tapes have random other stuff on them as well...): Live at Dublin Olympia, April 1999 John Peel session (Shoot the sexual athlete, Magic of a kind word, Nothing in the silence, My girl's got miraculous technique) Live in Belgium (don't know where or when, at least a couple of years ago!) Live in Boston (likewise) Live at Bowlie festival, April 1999 Sessions at West 54th (unbroadcast New York TV session), 1998 Black Sessions (French radio) Live at Manchester Town Hall, December 1997 (the Sunday gig) Beat Patrol (interviews with whole band chosing one song each by someone else), December 1997 Steve Lamacq Evening Session, 1997 (I think) 2 x Mark Radcliffe Sessions, 1996 (I think) Tapes offered for free, on condition that they will never be sold on to anyone else for money. Any takers? Big Stu _________________________________________________________________ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From charismarisa at xxx.ca Thu Aug 5 05:43:26 2004 From: charismarisa at xxx.ca (marisa stroud) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 00:43:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: ahem... Message-ID: <20040805044326.28648.qmail@web60007.mail.yahoo.com> quick quick gina, miss gina titchener...could you please tell me your address? I have a long-belated addition to your xmas present and I don't want to send it to an address you no longer live at. Sorry, everyone else. Continue swimming naked...or whatever it was you were doing out there. In other belated news, I attended the hot-and-sunny Ballyhoo in the Botanics (that's *really* what they should have called it...maybe not) in June with my good friend from Manchester, a Melbourne boy who had a crush on me and his sister, who didn't like me and sat "with a face like a busted muffin" (as the lovely mancunian put it) for most of the afternoon. I hoped Camera Obscura would cheer her up, but due to what I think were sound difficulties, they buggered off (slightly distressed? I was pretty far back) before I even got my dancing feet on. However, it was nice to see them back on my home turf in T-dot (what *all* the cool kids call Toronto, for those of you who might come visit Canadiashireland and want to sound "with it") in a small and intimate venue (The Legendary Horseshoe Tavern) where I bought a tshirt (the wrong colour and slightly too small, but c'est la vie) from Gavin Dunbar (the man I couldn't bring myself to give my cv to when I saw him behind the counter of Avalance Records last fall, not that they would have hired me anyway, but there it is)...they seemed to be quite low on supplies at this point in their tour, because my friend went to buy the 'Underachievers...' album on our way out the door but they were fresh out. Do I win the prize for longest run-on sentence? Not on this list, I suppose. *sigh* It was nice to hear weegie accents again, tho. I didn't think it would hit me the way it did. Too bad. I know I said I'd share the rest of my days/but I was only going through a phase... Am I gonna settle down? Am I gonna be/Someone who has to take the rest of my life to settle down? There are two frontmen in the whole world whose voices I know intimately...who I can identify by the way they pronounce certain consonants...for whom I freeze when I hear the timbre of their speaking voice...the first time I heard both these bands, I *felt* the music rush through me and I knew something big had happened in my life...I feel what I imagine hollywood-style love to feel like. How sad is that? Maybe not "sad"...but I wonder sometimes if this impossible love spoils me for what's real... I wonder if I'll ever meet someone and know that something big has happened in my life. Cause, to be quite honest, I don't think it happens for everyone. Well, I guess we'll see. marisa xo ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.d.oliver at xxx.uk Thu Aug 5 23:40:15 2004 From: p.d.oliver at xxx.uk (Peter Oliver) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 23:40:15 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Engine Tours Message-ID: I'm going to find myself in Edinburgh at the weekend. Bizarely, it was cheaper to buy a train ticket to Glasgow via Edinburgh than one just for Edinburgh. I considered the coach, but it's twice the price of the train and takes twice as long to get there; I suppose there's a certain twisted logic to that, but it's no wonder that people avoid public transport with such fervour, when just trying to figure out which ticket to buy is such hard work. Anyway, such an opportunity to go somewhere different, indie-club wise, shouldn't be missed. I increasingly find that my local clubs fail to excite. I hope that it's them that are getting boring, and not me... It's also a great chance to wind up my mate, who normally won't listen to anything unless it's heavy metal. He'll be at my mercy. So I thought of you. If anyone has any recomendations for what to do on a Saturday night in Edinburgh (or a Sunday, Monday or Tuesday night, for that matter), it'd be great to hear them. -- Peter Oliver +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Thu Aug 12 13:42:49 2004 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:42:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: By the light of the moon, the big baboon was combing his auburn hair Message-ID: It rains here a lot. If your days are spent like mine, gazing out of a window, it can make the perfect backdrop for not getting anything done. Sometimes I'll be sitting in a meeting and no one has seen the forecast or brought a parapluie, and haven't noticed the falling raindrops gradually filling up the sky. Then, it falls a little harder and people start to hear and everyone looks up, and even the person giving the presentation puts the cap on their felt-tip pen. It's one of those natural phenomenons that, if I were an observational comic or a misty-eyed drunk I could make a lot of capital from, wondering how no one notices the rain until it reaches a certain pitch, just like no one pauses on the path to look down a mysterious hole, until reaches a certain depth. But I'm neither of those things, so I have to keep those thoughts to myself. Yeah, we have plenty of rain here. You're quite welcome to it if you want. It's of a particular vintage if you're in a tent at the seaside with good company and yesterday's smudged crossword. Having missed the rest, I managed to catch Struan on the radio on Thursday. I was going to the dentist in the morning and managed to hang around long enough to hear him. He played Take the Skinheads Bowling, and waxed somewhat lyrical about how this song was where the term Bowlie came from and how the song summed up Indie for him. Struan seems to have a different idea of what indie is to most people I meet. I like how he cherishes these modern slurs, Bowlie, Twee, Indie, Hipster, Christian, and lives in a world where all of these things are as holy as he wants them to be. Most people disagree, but then I don't think most people have a clue. Did anyone see the Animal Games on BBC1 last night (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/3558212.stm)? It was the most extraordinary telly I've seen in ages. Apparently a bug can run so fast that photons don't even have time to hit its eyes. John Motson says so, so it must be true I guess. Marisa said, charmingly: <> And I wondered who the second frontman could be.. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Thu Aug 12 15:47:31 2004 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 14:47:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: this friday in glasgow! In-Reply-To: <20031026165359.94210.qmail@web41002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hello hello! can you report back on saying hello to someone? if so, here goes! i said hello to amy skelton. for some reason i thought she was going to be american. but she wasn't. she's probably back in bangladesh right now with her shiny new visa, but it was nice to meet her. she came along to HDIF with a few pals from the olympia beer do and seemed to have fun. hope you enjoyed it amy! that wasn't much of a reporting back was it? sorry. i did try and spark up a conversation but kept being lured away by those pesky indie pop records finishing after three minutes. soul records are even worse. thank god for the velvets. i've perfected the four minute toilet dash by now..! all of which is a roundabout way of leading into this... HDIF is coming to Glasgow! On Friday August 13th - ie tomorrow - HDIF will be happening at the Little League club organised by John from National Pop League. VENUE: The RAFA Club, Ashley Street, Glasgow G3 DATE: Friday 13 August TIME: 9pm till 1am PRICE: £3 The Smiths * The Supremes * The Go-Betweens * Dusty Springfield * Belle & Sebastian * Tammi Terrell * Aztec Camera * The Ronettes * Orange Juice * Beach Boys * The Temptations * Velvet Underground * Felt * The Shangri-Las * Primal Scream * Otis Redding * The Field Mice * The Stone Roses * Dexys Midnight Runners * The Four Tops * Dolly Parton * The Orchids More info at http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk and that's about it. apart from to say that i started typing this in the garden, sitting in my lounger with my fancy new wireless internet connection, and had to rush indoor halfway through when the heavens opened suddenly. for all of thirty seconds. heavy rain and then nothing. like turning on a shower for a quick blast. what is it with this pesky british weather? x update: it's raining again. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Thu Aug 12 18:25:48 2004 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Animalympics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040812172548.64796.qmail@web40407.mail.yahoo.com> I think it may be because of the animated film of that name, c.1978 (?), that BBC's programme was called THE ANIMAL GAMES and not ANIMALYMPICS. Or was it ANIMOLYMPICS? Someone, preferably called Peter, should write in and clarify. 'The Nile Crocodile, not one to announce his entrance in advance' 'Let's see if the Roo is threatened by the Skipper' 'Well, really ... an *embarrassing* result for the mammals, to be honest with you' 'He did it without breaking sweat. Do kangaroos sweat?' 'Well, actually, Jonathan, there's some news on that which I'll bring you in a moment - but first the Mudskipper's going to have a jump' 'The judges are obviously in a good mood, they're going to let the King Penguin have a second attempt!' It's true, the programme was magnificent. That is, the programme was magnificent - no-one else has said it yet. I am a large fan of good parodies of John Motson, but until last night perhaps I had not fully credited that Motson parodies himself better than any of us. I don't mean that he's unwittingly, foolishly yet endearingly self-parodic, but that he very deliberately, cannily, thoughtfully, hilariously parodies himself, on THE ANIMAL GAMES. It was so astoundingly good that it will have to be Issued On DVD, preferably with Commentary By John Motson. DE YE KEN, late call: yes, Murdoch did get them to play 'Take The Skinheads Bowling'. I had never heard it before, and have not heard it since. I could see what he meant about it being indie, if that's the way he wants to play it. I cannot see, though, how the word 'Bowlie' derives from it. I listened relatively carefully and did not hear the word 'Bowlie' at all. That is like saying that the word 'Skinhead' derives from the Sundays' 'Skin & Bones'. About the rain: today, another 5-minute shower, out of nowhere, like a pushed button in the clouds, and stopping as suddenly. Later, c. 4:45: gentle light over the green suburbs making me feel momentarily in touch with momentous long waves of sweet time, as though someone in April 1990 had just handed me a cup of tea. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jonathan.skinner at xxx.com Sat Aug 14 15:51:28 2004 From: jonathan.skinner at xxx.com (Jonathan Skinner) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 15:51:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sunbeam shone Message-ID: Heigh ho I hope this finds everyone in a fine state of fettleness. I am grand and dandy, not much to complain about really, the summer is here, and it has pissed with rain pretty much every day since June. Ahh the joys of being in Ireland. Not a lot really going on here, most of the nice venues in cork have closed down, which means there are only 3 nice concert venues here (down from 6) which may or may not be good, i am undecided as it is. The reason for my email is very very simple. I am about to leave these shores for the sunny climes of North America in 3 weeks ( mental note pay for ticket and insurance) Anyway i will find myself in New York for the last few days of my trip, namely from the 12th to the 14th, so i am wondering if any of you nice people ( if anyone actually reads this) that live there or are familiar with the place could email me some nice, interesting places to go in the city, or even *Gasp* meet up. One thing must be confessed though, i will only be 20 at the time so any suggestions that come my way, if any should keep that in mind.(rant) It always strikes me as odd that if i was an American, i could if i so desired go out and die, if not kill for my country but i couldn't go out and have a drink to celebrate coming back alive. (/rant) So yeah that would be great if someone could email me sometime. In other news, i managed to miss belle and Sebastian twice this summer, once in London due to tickets being sold out and then at out equiv of Glastonbury, merely because i hate festivals Cast ne'er a clout till may be out Peace, love ,lollipops jonathan +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com Mon Aug 16 13:15:36 2004 From: paulo_stinsoni at xxx.com (Paulo Stinsoni) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:15:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Saturdays and money Message-ID: Hello youth-of-today, Should I start with "It's been a long time since I last posted"? - Nah, sod that. You know that if you keep tabs on me, and if you don't, then you don't care. Anyway, nothing clever or slick in this mail, oh no. All I want to know is... Is there an indie club night on on Saturday 21 August, anywhere in the UK. I'd particularly like to hear some old indie twee stuff, and some new indie twee stuff, like Camera Obscura and of course Belle and Sebastian. If I don't find an indie night to go to, Theresa Lovely will make me go to a drum 'n' bass night in London, and although I don't mind that too much, I find the music begins to bore me, and I just want to go home. Also, when dancing to D&B, you just don't know what beats to follow and you end up dancing either really slow or really fast. Thanks in advance, Love and pies P. _________________________________________________________________ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sexychickswithheadwounds at xxx.com Mon Aug 16 17:29:01 2004 From: sexychickswithheadwounds at xxx.com (leyda campbell) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 16:29:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: im a girl with ideas, lots of good ideas Message-ID: hello boys and girls, ok, so i am thinking that the midwest meet-up should be in my hometown (selfish, aren't i) in the last week of august or the first week of september. we will meet at the arch and take it from there. let me know of anything specific that you guys would like to do. we have all the usual suspects plus some unique stuff as well. let me know who wants to go and when the best time would be and we can nail down the details. anyroad, have a good one kids and contact me asap. xoxox leyda _________________________________________________________________ Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.org Wed Aug 18 10:37:49 2004 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.org (kenneth.chu at xxx.org) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 10:37:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Boy Got Pwned Again (LONDON SINISTER PICNIC ON THE SATURDAY 4 TH SEPT (THE DATE MAY CHANGE)) Message-ID: <9D17C3BDDEAFD311AFD100508B5C529F143E9FAA@UCLHNHSM2> Hey! Long time no see! Wow it's been exactly a month since I last posted, so I thought I'd mark today with a gin. Have you actually tried to mark things on a map with gin? It's highly impractical.. You try and pin point Primrose Hill on the London A-Z using a drawing pin? Easy, you try it with a gin? And you end up marking the whole of Chalk Farm and Regents Park. If you actually want to mark the whole of Primrose Hill, a Belle and Sebastian pin (or any of the same size e.g. linkin park pins) would be the idea size to be pretty much marking the whole thing. I've actually done this. So the purpose of this e-mail.. Do you guys fancy meeting up for a pincy nicky fun on 4th Sept on Primrose Hill? I'm waiting for y'all to get out of your situation with your job and with your life. But do you know what's good about this picnic plan? It's on a SATURDAY so you don't even have to get out of your job just yet (unless you work on Saturday in which case you should take a day off) And then all we need is somewhere we can feel the grass beneath our feet.. Hey! Primrose Hill has grass on it!! Yay! And who needs to walk on sand when we can sit on grass or run on grass and play football or something. And beer you can cool your hands with. Our Joy will be complete. So rough details (oxymoron?).. It's nothing revolutionary I'm afraid. Saturday 4th Sept Primrose Hill Meet at the Odeon Cinema on Parkway at 2pm Walk up the hill at 2:15pm Be at top of the hill at 2:30pm That's it! Bring food bring friends bring football bring frisbee bring frivolity! Bring fun! If for any reason you think another date would be better let me know. Woot! Ken ********************************************************************** This email is confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If this email was not intended for you please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator at uclh.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dearpaperclip at xxx.com Thu Aug 19 14:25:27 2004 From: dearpaperclip at xxx.com (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:25:27 +0200 Subject: Sinister: You'll leave two fingers in the air Message-ID: Dear Sinister, I am now back in school. It's ok, I guess. My best friend Zebine has moved to somewhere really close to Dallas, and I miss her so much. The first day I panicked and felt so out of place, and when I got to know that there'd be no ordinary classes until Friday I was pretty bummed out. I really just want to get going, because we have tons of fun classes this year, English foremost, and psychology, geography might be pretty good because i think the teacher is good, or so i've heard, and literature studies and oh... it will be good I think. Hard work, but the kind of work that interests you is fine by me. Today we, as third-years (last year in school EVER!! WOHOO! We have to point this out by chanting stuff like "somliga har, två år kvar!" which means "some people have two years left" but it rhymes in Swedish, gist of it v. much lost in translation) had to be in the auditorium to attend something called the buddy system with the first-years, and take a wild guess, were supposed to befriend them a bit. We got divided into smaller groups and had to sit in classrooms, and of course no one spoke (not even my fellow third-year-classmates!) and so I gave tiny life-lectures to the wee things, on such a broad variety that ranged from "Why it is stupid to assume that English native teachers do not understand or speak English if you plan on mocking them", "Behaviour with and of teachers", "Teenage Angst" and "Taking Responsibility" and the old fave "Actions speak louder than words" when it came to extra-curricular activites. Of course I hid it beneath some general talk but hopefully they felt less angstish about the whole thing. I was scared shitless the first day in school there, I knew no one and didn't even understand what my first homwork in civics was ABOUT. But I turned out ok, hopefully. I seem to have an ace new English teacher to also help out with the school paper, it's so much easier when you have a faculty member as support. Also, the teachers are in many, many cases so much more fun to hang out with than the students, I suspect he might have a great taste in music. Am I sick for being like this? I think that I've always been. It's so weird, it's like some people don't even realise that they're people too. Most of them are really nice people. The one boy in my group was pretty cool as well, and we sat beside each other during the presentations in the auditorium and were cynical and glorious in our comments, and he showed me his hair spray which i thought was funny. It was pink and purple, and he was all clad in black and listened to industrial stuff so i thought it was quite unexpected. I was listening to Lord Anthony today and felt like him a wee bit. I tried to do a re-make in my head, but Lady Astrid just doesn't have the same ring to it. It sounds like someone who runs a brothel. Anyways, I feel just like hom sometimes, and I love the metaphor of "shut your mouth/ start kicking the football" because that IS how you gain popularity and all that stuff: by dropping all personality, buy some boring but expensive clothes and start going "OH MY GOOOD!!! IIIHHHH" many times a day, at least as a girl in Sweden. Seeing as I'm not really into being like that and dressing like the others do (today: red converse shoes, dark tight jeans, black cardigan with B&S badge and sort of audrey hepburnish meets rock chick make-up) and STILL, STILL I am considered a bit odd just because I dress like that. The badge, I think, does it. A BADGE. Some people are easy to shock. I must get home soon and bake a cake, my stomach is a-rumblin'. Other non-important info: - I have taken on to say "MeOW!" when I see a cute boy. Why, I have no idea. Me and Amanda always have cute boy-shouts. The original was a quiet whisper of "hello" and but now it has become a barely audible MeOW. Just so you know that I'm not a cat impersonator. - How nice of a word is kitten, come to think of it? - I might write a song about sinister. I am not sure. Shout-outs: Richard: I will write you SOON, as soon as my school computer gets fixed up, because I want to give a proper reply to your e-mails. They still do crack me up, ha ha. Marisa: Oh man, still, come to Sweden. You're so cool! Anders: I have SICKO facts to tell you. I laughed for half an hour (honestly) when I realised a hilarious thing about us, oh dude you'll DIE, you'll DIE! Also: facts about myself, karaoke and the Lion King will be a-comin' your way with my next letter. Combined, that is. Haha. Nathan: Ok, so stupid me decided to re-do your entire tape last night, so I have finished to A-side to my satisfaction, the other side tonight and the letter's all done so soon soon my friend! tons of love Astrid x _________________________________________________________________ Hitta rätt på nätet med MSN Sök http://search.msn.se/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Fri Aug 20 19:15:27 2004 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: For Those About To Rock Biography Message-ID: <20040820181527.216.qmail@web40401.mail.yahoo.com> Outside, a world of rain. It is invisible save from the right angle, but its whoosh and swish rains off the parades, rains in the lucozade, rains off the show, drains out the woe. It is, naturally, beautiful, on the red brick and the green grass, the colourful vinyl and the grey slates. Thought turns, with a bit of luck, to a past. On August 20th, 1998, PJ Miller wrote: >>> As for a B&S book, I'd like to see one of those "In Their Own Words" books devoted to them. It is odd that five years later, there has been no book, or buik. I blame JtN, who never sent me his proposal. I think he left it in his other smoking jacket. >>> What a buffoon I am! That's not really true - but it's funny. As Miller's list of rock books goes on, it reminds me of how much diverse !pop! music he likes. >>> It's an encyclopaedia of Krautrock, dead big and probably full of bollocks. It's hard to tell, at a distance, how Miller produces effects like this. Is it any easier, closer up? I'm not telling. I'm starting to think that Miller made up the names of the rock books. >>> They've got the Deacon Blue book really cheap. Poor old Ricky Ross, Mister Bargain Bucket. He must be making it up. I mean, there is no Deacon Blue book that I have seen. Miller, if you have bought it since, could you send it to me? A funny thing is that Miller would not now dare to write about Deacon Blue without mentioning the pinefox. >>> But it was the Huns, they did eat all the pies. See, that's funny as well - but how does he do it? >>> T!mothy Hopk!ns, you can't pull the wool over my eyes. At least not for more than a couple of scary seconds. Here, it is the joke about the wool being scary, because it obscures Miller's vision, that is the source of comedy. The comedy is mild, here. One could reflect that Miller's comic style, excellent then, has not changed much since. (That would, I think, be a good thing.) But how about other writers? Later that day, Tim Hopkins replied: >>> Here are some more rock book recommendations: Just like that - straight in! >>> 'Unwelcome Home: the strange tale of Peters and Lee' by Mrs Evander Mitchell This details the descent of the once-great 1970s light entertainment duo from pop stardom into a seedy life of accountancy and ventriloquism. As a tale of everyday madness, this one is hard to beat. I am missing something here, but the phrase 'everyday madness' reminds me of the time I wrote about two years ago, when Hopkins pointed to a big building and said: 'That's the Stephen Trouss� Institute for Contemporary Madness'. >>> 'Post-Hegelian Homesick Blues: The List Song in Postmodernity' by Steffan Hosen Here's what it says on the back: 'Fascinating study (adapted from an acclamed doctoral thesis) which puts the list song at the epicentre of postmodernity, as the apotheosis of one-dimensional fractal culture, referencing, re-referencing and self-referencing out of control, nowhere and everywhere, forever. It demonstrates that, even more than 'machine music' like hip hop, the list song has ruthlessly exposed the modernist myth of the creative subconscious, and locates postmodern creativity in the act of turning on the television, the only purposeful act which remains available to us.' Quite how the author managed to do this much research into list songs without once mentioning Ian Dury's 'Reasons To Be Cheerful Pt 3' is beyond me, but a scintillating read nevertheless. That was good enough to demand reproduction in full. It just demanded it, out of the pink, like that, and I could not say no. I wonder was TH thinking of 'We Didn't Start The Fire', as paradigmatic? >>> Sarah Records 40: A Celebration This large format, glossy book tells the amazing tale of how Sarah Records was founded 40 years ago on the tiny Caribbean island of Bristol, and through amazing luck, great judgement and a sense of adventure, has grown and prospered through 40 years and across the whole spectrum of popular music. Guest star forewords are contributed by Eric Clapton, Michael Jackson and Andrew Dean. I don't really understand the joke, here. I am missing some key connection. >>> The Strange Tale of Litres of Pee: Indiepop Babylon, by Roberto Carro Amazing expose of the darker side of the indiepop world. You wouldn't believe some of the things those indiepopsters get up to. Read about how Bjork destabilised the molecular structure of the other Sugarcubes' brains, using worrying glares she'd bought from Tricky. Read how the size of Brett Anderson's head is directly proportional to the popularity of his band, and how he now wears hats stolen from Lego figures. Read how Belle And Sebastian's Stevie Jackson was spotted by Dave Lee Roth while filling in on guitar for the BMX Bandits in LA. He accepted a job in Roth's band, but was thrown out after just twenty minutes for throwing a meat pie at Seymour Stein, esteemed head of Sire Records. It missed. Stevie wrote a song about the whole incident. It's a great song. And it's a fantastic book, you should try to get hold of it. That one doesn't work quite so well for me, but the deadpan material on Bjork and Suede is well turned. >>> Take the book back off the shelf, That sign-off signals a moment when TH would quote Belle & Sebastian, knowing that everyone knew what he meant. The following month, I would buy the song he was referring to! I like it still. In response to Miller, Hopkins concludes: >>> I'm not sure what this means, but it's worrying me. Wool? Eyes? Leave me alone. There is a little sweet innocence about this. But there is familiarity too. TH can almost be imagined writing something similar today, somewhere. I think that these examples demonstrate what good comic writing Belle & Sebastian were, once, sometimes able to provoke, from some particularly witty people. The same day, Nick Dastoor wrote: >>> Welcome Marco#7. I'm going to be annoying and not answer your question. But I propose that 'I brought " THE DELGADO" but i'm not satisfied.' be made the new Sinister sig file quote. Of course, that's only a personal opinion, but I must admit it's one I hold quite strongly. Oh, dear - that is not N. at his best. It makes me reflect that his sense of humour, timing and style has, or have, improved since. >>> Nick xxx He has never given me three kisses. He did not even do it then - I was not on the sinister mailing list. There were about 54 posts to sinister, that day. Brother Mirrorball __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coldcolours at xxx.net Sat Aug 21 19:17:41 2004 From: coldcolours at xxx.net (joanna) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:17:41 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: Sinister: an actual B&S biography Message-ID: <24816637.1093112261868.JavaMail.root@beaker.psp.pas.earthlink.net> PF wrote: >>> As for a B&S book, I'd like to see one of those "In Their Own Words" books devoted to them. It is odd that five years later, there has been no book, or buik. I blame JtN, who never sent me his proposal. I think he left it in his other smoking jacket." Don't know if this was what you have in mind, but it was just announced today in Publishers Lunch. What a coincidence. "Scottish journalist Paul Whitelaw's JUST A MODERN ROCK STORY, a biography of the enigmatic band Belle & Sebastian, featuring exclusive interviews with the band as well as personal photos and a cover designed by lead singer Stuart Murdoch, to Becki Heller at St. Martin's, by Kim Goldstein at the Susan Golomb Agency." You can never tell when these things are going to be released, but it's still pretty exciting. Love Joanna Time Passes. Listen. Time Passes. -- Dylan Thomas +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pj-miller at xxx.uk Sat Aug 21 19:32:45 2004 From: pj-miller at xxx.uk (Peter Miller) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 20:32:45 +0200 Subject: Sinister: For Those About To Rock Biography References: <20040820181527.216.qmail@web40401.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000d01c487ad$47c807c0$efca30d5@oemcomputer> In response to Brother Mirrorball: I think perhaps Tim was riffing on the idea of Island Records. I can't believe I made fun of Don Drummond. That's like making fun of Muhammad Ali. For the record, Tag had read the Keith Moon book. Helter Skelter had to close their shop on Denmark Street because the rent was too high, or something. I got a book for half price during their closing down sale. It was about the Beach Boys. I hope to sell it for a vast profit one day. I had a look through 'A Crack in the Cosmic Egg' (in Spain, of all places). My gut instincts were right. It is full of stuff about where people's heads were at when they made such and such a record. I feel strangely violated by the fact that there is a B&S book coming out and that it appears to be 'authorised'. I suppose this opens the floodgates for unscrupulous scandalmongers, though. Also, it might be interesting to read. It may be full of shocking revelations, such as 'Stuart David wasn't in the least bit impressed because his pen could write upside down'. Perhaps I should send this in to Sinister instead of just posting it here. I had wanted to Report Back on my visit to Pinefox Central, but I suppose it can wait. Sister Disco +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Sun Aug 22 14:25:04 2004 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Piper At The Gates Of Dawn Message-ID: <20040822132504.98870.qmail@web40405.mail.yahoo.com> Balloons being filled with hot air, blasts of flame pushing them off the ground, pilots and passengers crowding in the baskets. My image of them refreshed: in the very-first-thing light they seem lighter and sweeter than ever, bright colours and nothing but wind. No commentary, just real live noise of people, many people really, gathered at six o'clock to watch hot air balloons take off. The veteran balloon-watchers, the ordinary folk taking an interest and their children, the cuties in woolly things lined up against a fence taking me back about 18 imaginary years. In the morning's wind most craft seem to rise suddenly and whizz over the horizon, but the Scottish piper, who slightly reminds me of RJG, his feet bigger than people, who last night was packed away to the strains of a bagpipe lament having failed to fly, gets off the ground and floats away into the blue, slower than anything else in sight. Sister Disco wrote: >>> I think perhaps Tim was riffing on the idea of Island Records. I thought he was, in a way, but I couldn't work out the way. >>> For the record, Tag had read the Keith Moon book. Is this the ultimate Sinister Gold line? Which record was it? >>> Helter Skelter had to close their shop on Denmark Street because the rent was too high, or something. I got a book for half price during their closing down sale. It was about the Beach Boys. I hope to sell it for a vast profit one day. I predict it will go for �18. >>> I feel strangely violated by the fact that there is a B&S book coming out and that it appears to be 'authorised'. Is that because it may quote private letters from you? I feel strangely violated, also, on St*phen Tr*uss*'s behalf, for, as I said before, he was going to write the book, but left the proposal in the pocket of his other Lemerre, I mean, Jacquet. >>> I suppose this opens the floodgates for unscrupulous scandalmongers, though. Also, it might be interesting to read. Good point. It had better mention THE SARACEN HEAD. You know, over the years many have written to sinister saying they wanted information about B&S fandom and what not. So, why has the author of the new book not done the same? Or were all those posts from 'Kenneth Chu', from him? Cousin Clubnight __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dearpaperclip at xxx.com Mon Aug 30 16:14:35 2004 From: dearpaperclip at xxx.com (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 17:14:35 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Astrid on the radio (pictures!) Message-ID: Hey dudes and dudettes, Just wanted to say that I was on the radio yesterday, er, yes, the Swedish "young" station P3, on a youth show called P3 Star, it was a lot of fun and I befriended some new folks so it was quite a lot of fun, and I am going back to be a co-host on October 3rd with another girl and then the guy who runs the whole thing. We'll be like sidekicks. Anyways, on this link: http://p3star.sr.se/default.ns?lngItemID=491&intPageColor=1 you should be able to view some horrendous pictures of me with a bunch of people, I manage to pull stupid faces on all of them but what the hell. I am the girl in sort of the middle with a white tank top with the print "future artist", the dark blue jeans, red chuck taylor's, and brown hair and bracelets and a white watch and er... you really can't miss me. It was all very unexpected and I just got into it spontaneously as hell, so it was a great surprise to me how much fun making radio was! Also this weekend: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is ONE OF MY FAVOURITE FILMS EVER! The Village is really crap, so don't go see it. Oh man it was crappy. Not saying I wasn't clinging on to my poor boy for dear life, but what the hell. It's sort of the point. And I was a little scared. But the story was really bad. Take care my cuddly ones, Astrid _________________________________________________________________ Hitta rätt på nätet med MSN Sök http://search.msn.se/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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