From lawrencemikkelsen at xxx.com Mon Apr 3 22:01:14 2006 From: lawrencemikkelsen at xxx.com (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 09:01:14 +1200 Subject: Sinister: new single - ulp! Message-ID: hey Sinisterinos once again, a question about downloading B&S music, although this time I shall phrase things such as to not offend Honey or potentially infringe copyright. OK, firstly, how come no one told me that there was a new B&S single out today? Jeeze! Secondly, can anyone suggest a legitimate way I can get a crisp, digital version of "Whiskey in a jar", the b-side from the 7". A copy of said record is winging its way to me as I write this, but I'd really like to iPod-ise it, and have always found that the transition from vinyl-to-MP3 is a) a pain in the arse b) terribly time consuming, and c) not that satisfying from an audio point of view. My issue is that pretty much every legitimate download service is unavailable in New Zealand. iTunes isn't, and every other service I've tried have spat the dummy as soon as they see my credit card billing address is outside of the EU or US. Any suggestions (or emails with attachments) gratefully received. Secondly, there's been little discussion about "Late Night Tales" compilation and I was wondering what people thought? Personally, I think it's a bit disapppointing. It could (I think) have just as easily been called "Chris Geddes: Late Night Tales" rather than "Belle & Sebastian: Late Nigth Tales". OK, so making a mix like this is probably a consensus exercise between seven people with quite different musical tastes, but I can't help feeling like they tried a little _too_ hard to make it as un-indie as possible. I mean, really, Stuart has always been very vocal about the music he likes, but other than "French Disko" I'm wondering where all his favourites are? (And, again, I know there's more to making a mix than just sticking your 20 favourite songs on a CD) Surely Felt would have made the grade? Or Orange Juice, or some of the other 80s indie which was clearly quite an influence. Or something. It's a sad state of affairs when a Steve Miller band song is my favourite song on the album. OK, I really should have started working about half an hour ago ... keep on rockin' Lawrence +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dearpaperclip at xxx.com Tue Apr 4 00:58:05 2006 From: dearpaperclip at xxx.com (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 01:58:05 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Oh! Message-ID: Hello Sinisters. Wow. The list really has come to life again! For a while there I thought you'd all left sinister, kind of like I'd gone to the loo at this amazing party and when I came back, everyone had gone home. Hmm. Not saying I spend a crazily long amount of time on the loo. Oh, see, I can't even get simple metaphor thingies right. How have you all been doing? I'm afraid the sheer amount of posts that waited for me in this mail folder (I don't use this e-mail anymore) is a bit overwhelming, and right now I'm quite sleepy, so you'll have to excuse me for not reading through them all. But I do see a lot of familiar names, and that makes me smile. I live in Beverley in East Yorkshire now with my boyfriend, as he works for a newspaper here (well really based in Hull) and we live in a house together. We rent it from an eccentric posho old lady who has what should be described as "classy" interior skills, but a lot of the time is a bit more sort of OTT Russian style. We have dark red velvet curtains in our master bedroom! A dark wood-bed that is actually pretty, and these hysterical wallpaper on the upper half of 19th century people looking romantic, with little cupids around. A love shack indeed. Best of all there is a beauty table. It makes me feel all fifties, apart from the fact that there is not enough space between the chair we put there and the table's beginning, so a lot of the time I manage hurting my legs a bit. Oh clumsy ol' me. So. I'm unemployed, and when not looking for a job spend my days in silly ways. Like baking stuff, or recording music, or choosing my outfit for an hour almost and then changing three times even though I only need to go to tesco. This autumn I will start uni, I almost count as a mature student! I'll be turning 20 this summer (Holy shit, I'm in my twenties soon?!) and they draw the line at 21. I'll be studying media, culture and society, which seems like a brilliant superace new degree, mainly focusing on media but getting a bit of politics and sociology and film studies and what have you. Hurrah! The best things about living in England are: -Getting to live in a house with my boyfriend -Always feeling like I'm on holiday in the sense that i'm still not used to left-side traffic or the architecture and all that. -The tv shows -Travelling around -The great selection of veggie food -Being able to buy booze at food stores The worst things about living in England are: -I'm far away from family and friends in Sweden who I miss terribly -Including the two house cats! -People eat much fattier, greasier foods and because I can buy 12 bags of crisps for 58p it is quite possible I will. -Cooking and baking (translating ingredients and stuff, and then trying to find them) -Missing out on fun Swedish stuff that couldn't be imported, as it could be in Sweden Soon I will be going home to Stockholm for a week. Oh it's next week actually. Eep! I'm quite nervous. With fitting everything in, and having enough time for everyone (there never is) and just the emotional state of mind I get into... it's strange but sometimes my mum and i or my sisters and i get a bit annoyed with each other or angry even just because it's kind of hard to have a great time and then leave so soon again. I really really really miss them. Well. My new exciting beach 2006-friendly life starts tomorrow, although I have started it a bit already with healthier foods and more regular exercise, but, I need to get up a bit earlier tomorrow so now I'm going to bed. Just popped in to say hello, really. Hope you're all well. MWAHS. Astrid _________________________________________________________________ Chatt: Träffa nya nätkompisar på Habbo Hotel http://habbohotel.msn.se/habbo/sv/channelizer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pj.miller.68 at xxx.com Tue Apr 4 10:27:10 2006 From: pj.miller.68 at xxx.com (Peter Miller) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:27:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: new single - ulp! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060404092710.94897.qmail@web86508.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > Secondly, there's been little discussion about "Late > Night Tales" > compilation and I was wondering what people thought? > Personally, I > think it's a bit disapppointing. It could (I think) > have just as > easily been called "Chris Geddes: Late Night Tales" > rather than "Belle > & Sebastian: Late Nigth Tales". OK, so making a mix > like this is > probably a consensus exercise between seven people > with quite > different musical tastes, but I can't help feeling > like they tried a > little _too_ hard to make it as un-indie as > possible. I mean, really, > Stuart has always been very vocal about the music he > likes, but other > than "French Disko" I'm wondering where all his > favourites are? (And, > again, I know there's more to making a mix than just > sticking your 20 > favourite songs on a CD) Surely Felt would have made > the grade? Or > Orange Juice, or some of the other 80s indie which > was clearly quite > an influence. Or something. It's a sad state of > affairs when a Steve > Miller band song is my favourite song on the album. There is a lengthy interview with Young Murdoch in this month's Record Collector in which he reveals that he had nowt to do with Late Night Tales, it is all, or nearly all, the work of Chris and Mick. I only had a quick skim through the interview at the airport, but it looked quite good as far as these things go. Then again, I like Record Collector. They ask Stewpot about his collection, and indeed about *our* collection. Basically, if you found one of the clues on the treasure hunt, you are quids in. Probably. Unlike if you have an original Tigermilk, the last one went for a measly £136. I read about the new single in the NME. I have not seen or heard mention of it elsewhere. I am unexcited. I would like a "digital copy" of that Kebab Shop song, given that I paid for one and then the server was "too busy", and I don't even live in New Zealand. Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Tue Apr 4 13:28:17 2006 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:28:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: new single - ulp! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Sinister The Miller and The Mikkelsen both mentioned Late Night Tales, and being the Nosey Parker that I am, I thought I would stick in my tuppance about the record, because, in short, I rather like it. As far as compilations go, it is a very pleasing listen, good for putting on whilst you're making and eating dinner, and also nice for stimulating debate as it did round my house the other night, precisely because it's *not* the obvious choices of 80s indie (which in any case doesn't really equate to dear old B&S anymore). Instead, it genuinely succeeded in introducing me to new bands. I also appreciate the skill in which Chris (for I assume it is he who is mixing) guides you through a pretty bumpy array of genres remarkably smoothly. I see no problem that it's essentially Mick and Chris anoraking about their favourite records (although from reading the sleeve notes, I think Sarah appears to play a reasonable part in it too) - as we all know, B&S is no longer Struan + session musicians, and I find it really rather satisfying to see other members of the band branching out and getting their chance to shine. I also reject the idea that a B&S mix tape would have to have their original influences on them, as new fans will not get the reference and old fans will probably already know or even own the likes of Felt/Orange Juice already. (Also, and I might be wrong, but I think I read somewhere that Creation are notoriously tight about letting their acts appear on comps). These omissions are no more surprising than the fact that The Life Pursuit doesn't have another Fox In The Snow/We Rule The School song; are you still listening to the same records you were ten years ago? Perfectly understandably, Belle & Sebastian aren't. I reckon what it comes down to is that I don't think these kind of records are intended as pieces of homework for the fans (the "Under The Influence" series by Dmc is probably more like that); instead, they're more a simulation of someone from the band setting up some decks in your living room and playing you an hour of interesting, eclectic music to broaden your horizons, which sounds fair enough to me. Just a thought. Asm.x ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Sun Apr 9 10:09:55 2006 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Forest Pines) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:09:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Time catches up with all of us Message-ID: <1144573795l.10326l.0l@quincux> Hello there. I didn't realise there was a new B&S single out this week either. Bah. Clearly I haven't been paying attention very well; I only noticed when, catching up with my email, I read this week's Popbitch, and saw it's expected to go into the top 20 here in Britain. My favourite thing about TLP has to be the deluxe binding. I don't want to put it alongside all my other CDs; it looks like it belongs on a bookshelf alongside The Gashlycrumb Tinies or something similar. I was intrigued, though, as to why the Scottish Railway Preservation Society and the Bo'ness and Kinneil Railway (which are one and the same for most purposes) are mentioned in the acknowledgements. I used to work there, but even so it took me ages to work out that one of the booklet photos is the interior of an old British Rail carriage; and the others do look rather like they could be Birkhill railway station. Must Try Harder in future. I was rather shocked to see that Astrid has moved to Beverley. I used to look forward to her regular posts describing her exciting Swedish life, so it's hard to imagine that she's now only a few miles from here. Astrid, if you're reading: I'm in Grimsby, just over the river. If you had asked me to name an English place that foreign people are likely to want to move to, I have to admit that Beverley wouldn't have been an obvious choice. Only yesterday, I was thinking about Sinister picnics. The reason being, I went off to meet people from another internet place for the very first time yesterday. And, I've been to meetups for things many times before - before I was on Sinister, even, I went to annual meetups of a Usenet group I posted to - but I'm still always nervous when it comes to meeting new people. "Don't worry," said one of these people yesterday, "we don't bite." "Unless," said someone else, "you ask nicely! Ahahahahahaa!" Their Evil Villain training course was coming on nicely, I believe. These other people call their meetups munches, rather than picnics, even though they amount to more or less the same thing. It's traditional, apparently. Anyway, that's enough rambling from me - one post to Sinister every six months is *quite* enough. I'm off to take decongestants and maybe go buy that single. CD *and* vinyl - I might not be a big enough fan to know when the record is coming out, but I'm a big enough geek to buy two formats of the same thing. xx FP -- http://www.symbolicforest.com/blog/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From benapps at xxx.com Sun Apr 9 15:15:38 2006 From: benapps at xxx.com (Ben Apps) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 15:15:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Is your belly fat, is your man a twat? Message-ID: Good afternoon Sinister, Well Belle and Sebastian are absolutely EVERYWHERE now aren't they? After getting home from the recent Hammersmith Apollo gig in London we saw a TV advert for The Life Pursuit! Next, the BBC predictably used The Blues Are Still Blue for their post match montage after Chelsea knocked Newcastle out of the FA Cup. Then, this week I discovered the band appearing at my workplace: http://www.flickr.com/photos/brapps/125644327/ With all the truckloads of cash the band will be making as a result of the extra publicity Rough Trade are paying for this time around, it makes me wonder if the next album will be their post fame comedown album, full of tales of cocaine abuse and how everyone pretends to be your friend. Bought the new single on Monday. The Life Pursuit is pleasant enough without being memorable, which makes it a disappointment in my eyes, and Mr Richard (Presumably a Stevie song as he sings it) sounds like a sixties latineqsue ditty that borrows it's catchiest riff from Blister in the Sun. Still, the The Blues Are Still Blue is a worthy A side and at least the cover photos are monochrome. See yous later Ben www.brapps.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.uk Mon Apr 10 16:14:17 2006 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.uk (kenneth.chu at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:14:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ruudy and his dream of horses Message-ID: <9D17C3BDDEAFD311AFD100508B5C529F3619A5A6@UCLHNHSM2> Well hellow there, See, remember way back in September last year when B+S did that lurverly Don't Look Back thingie and they did the whole of IYFS in order from start to finish? Remember? The one that was great, yeah? It was so good that it inspired me to make the next 10 sinister posts from that day to be titled by IYFS puns, in track listing order. Except whilst posting from an airport in my haste in November I cocked it up and so the order got all fucked. So 7 months on, 2 gigs later here's the last one of the lot. 10 posts in 7 months! You must have missed me. Nobody wrote about the exciting VIRGIN MEGASTORE EXTRAVAGANZA last Monday! Where B+S played a set in celebration of their new single at the Virgin Megastore on Oxford Street, and signed records, and it was all free! It was quite exciting you know, seeing a band I like at the Virgin Megastore, because I always thought that only bands I don't like would play Virgin Megastores. I don't think it's a thing against Virgin Megastores, but more just a victim mentality of me with being fans of the indie musical bands and I get used to being jealous of other fans of bands who do proper publicity and that. So it's kind of fun to have B+S being a bit more orthodox, I guess, these days: with festival tours and Match of the Day air-time and single launch thingies and singles that are off the albums, and songs on video jukeboxes at It's A Scream pubs and all that. Anyway the setlist was something like - Another Sunny Day -[two songs here maybe both from DCW maybe Wrapped up in Books and I'm a Cuckoo but actually I can't remember go me!!] - Brief "Ticket to Ride" interlude - The Blues are Still Blue - She's Losing It So yeah! It was fun. The sinister contingent were represented by at least 5, from at least 3 continents. Get in. Several people have mentioned picnics lately, I wonder if it's because the sun is out and we all remember how good the sun is. There should be sinisterfitba, as well. I played some fitba with some sinister folks and some other folks just yesterday, on Primrose Hill, in fact. You should join in. We should picnic. Innit. Ken P.S.: Who on this bitch is going to ATP weekend 2?? I am going and I seem to like some of the bands playing! I'm scared that I might end up ACTUALLY SEEING BANDS, so I'll be needing people to keep me at the Queen Vic, can any of you help? ********************************************************************** This email is confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If this email was not intended for you please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator at uclh.org. This footnote confirms that the email and attachments contained no viruses when they left UCLH. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Sat Apr 22 10:13:51 2006 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:13:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sexy veggies? Message-ID: oooh, look... tw of the lads are up for PETA's sexiest vegetarian award! ha! vote here: http://www.peta2.com/OUTTHERE/o-sexyveg06.asp?c=p2sv118 -stacey _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+