From kenneth.chu at xxx.uk Wed Apr 23 15:25:53 2008 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.uk (kenneth.chu at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:25:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Yakult have been a brilliant bacteria Message-ID: (I actually sent this a week ago but it didn't work - but that same feeling is back, so I thought I'd try my luck again) Hello, Long time no see. New Belle and Sebastian song title puns are still hard to come by but I thought I'd turn the creaky wheels in my head a little so I can write to you. The desire to write to you was partly because this morning I was in a strong frame of mind to listen to IYFS again. It was nice it was - I was all listening to Like Dylan in the Movies and then went back to listen to Stars of Track and field. They don't write them like they used to these days. I miss hearing about weird girls who have cults and kiss people, I think. Are there any new bands who write songs nowadays about weird girls who start cults and kiss people? I'd really like to know. Or is it just that girls no longer do things like that in the modern 21st century and so this is reflected in song writing? What do girls do these days? Do they just spend all day working out the economy of tea procurement and eat toasts? I went to Scotland two weekends ago and went up a mountain and made a snowman and gave it two lucozade coloured eyes. It was quite sinister. Speaking of outdoor Sinister fun, I seem to remember reading on FACEBOOK about some kind of PICNIC happening start of May or something.. Is this true? If so why is nothing being mentioned here? Miss y'all as always, Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This email is confidential and is intended solely for the person or Entity to whom it is addressed. If this is not you, please forward the Message to mail.administrator at uclh.nhs.uk. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stephen.Hewitt at xxx.uk Mon Apr 28 13:44:13 2008 From: Stephen.Hewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt Stephen -DAIS) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:44:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Yakult have been a brilliant bacteria In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3DF7796E9BC4714483487FE20ADF2DE79277C1@VMAIL4.intranet.newham.ac.uk> Ken sa: Speaking of outdoor Sinister fun, I seem to remember reading on FACEBOOK about some kind of PICNIC happening start of May or something.. Is this true? If so why is nothing being mentioned here? and i said back to him: but but i DID attempt to tell the list about the picnic, and it failed, how come you can get through and no one else can? i shall try sending again and if it fails again, i shall send to you to post!! so here i am, sending it again: ello babies so a certain ms sunnyset and a certain ms lynch have decided we should have a picnic on the tenth anniversary of the first picnic, ie MAY BANK HOLIDAY. because they are exciting modern young people they have done this via the medium of facebook, how exciting. if you have a facebook thing it's all here: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=10804369038 if you don't: hello jim :) it says: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DATE: Saturday 3rd May 2008 TIME: 2pm PLACE: Top of Primrose Hill (unless it's raining, then we'll be in The Spread Eagle. But it's not going to rain!) Closest tube: Camden Town, Chalk Farm. Look at http://www.tfl.gov.uk for all your travel needs. OTHER IMPORTANT INFORMATION: Bring alcohol (Eg, white wine, red wine, rose wine, lager, vodka, rum, whiskey and gin, raspberry daiquiris, stout, Advocat) and tasty things to eat. (Examples of tasty things to eat: cake, Pringles, Jammy Dodgers, sushi, pink wafer biscuits, strawberries and cream, Bakewell tart, chocolate!) THINGS TO MAKE YOU POPULAR AT A SINISTER PICNIC: A football, a bottle opener, a corkscrew, spare cups, a nice smile, a guitar, a friendly dog, a blanket to share, a story to tell, a song to sing. If anyone is scared or shy about coming along, GET OVER IT! (or e-mail us and we'll meet you at the Camden tube station.) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (hurrah for the northy snake) Also bring BABIES sa i :) but only the ones you own, don't just randomly pick up a baby with yr tube of pringles on yr way... also FOR AFTERS there is exciting almost young persons poptimism which has a proper website http://freakytrigger.co.uk/poptimism/ even though it hasn't been updated for next month yet, but it will be all the fun and the same time and place and everything... if you can't make it to London DON'T DISPAIR, have your own picnic instead, wherever you happen to be. Hope you are all well xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From borokitty at xxx.com Tue Apr 29 16:33:35 2008 From: borokitty at xxx.com (Amy Skelton) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:33:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Non facebook wannabee picnic-ateer... Message-ID: I still haven't started Facebook even though I've got v. close friends on it. I'm just not on the internet for personal use that often at the moment. So... I only found out about the picnic yesterday. Mind you I thought something would be going on... I'd like to come to meet peeps and spend the evening dancing afterwards but at this short notice I'm probably going to struggle for accommodation. If anyone could offer me some floor space I would be incredibly grateful. Please mail me back... It's been a few years since I've done a proper news missive but I've got a birthday gathering to get to soon... Besides I'd rather talk to people in person on Sat! Hopefully see you there... ...big hugs XOXO ...Amy _________________________________________________________________ Play the Andrex Hello Softie Game & win great prizes http://www.thehellosoftiegame.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Tue Apr 29 18:36:18 2008 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:36:18 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: Sinister: Yakult have been a brilliant bacteria In-Reply-To: <3DF7796E9BC4714483487FE20ADF2DE79277C1@VMAIL4.intranet.newham.ac.uk> References: <3DF7796E9BC4714483487FE20ADF2DE79277C1@VMAIL4.intranet.newham.ac.uk> Message-ID: CarsmileSteve seth: > but but i DID attempt to tell the list about the picnic, and it > failed, how come you can get through and no one else can? i shall try > sending again and if it fails again, i shall send to you to post!! Oh my! Sinister lives. I'm sorry for the glitch Steve and everyone, which was less of a glitch and more of a mass global power blackout really. Sinister, and in fact the whole of missprint.org went down teh interweb tubes sometime in the beginning of February, raised its weary head like a tired drunk every few days and babbled, and finally gave up the ghost a week or two later. And I didn't spot it! Which is kind of catastrophic to my personal mail too, as you can see from this email address. If anyone mailed me in the last few months please resend! Je suis idiote - but when something disappears, it's hard to notice it's gone because it can't tell you. Ask any ghosty. SO! We've just entered a new revolution in The Sinister Years, because I panicked (as I do) and squirmed helplessly around wondering what to do, and then thought I had nothing much to lose and spent a few days trying to move missprint.org over to a new server I'd had waiting for it before I got iller. I was still in the process of thinking "no WAY will this work", when Ken's mail came winging down the tubes and plopped in my in-tray. He's a little trooper Ken, isn't he? Do you know he has his own worm farm? I can't promise for one second that Sinister is actually working properly. Maybe the nursery is broken, or the new server will start adding sweary words to our mails. If something's broken and you can't post, I guess you should mail me privately, and then wait a month and see if I can fix it. But baffingly it *kind of looks like it's working* doesn't it? What's more THERE'S NEWS. Which I think will make half of you happy, and another half reach for a gun... mwahahahaha. Lots of people have sighed about the demise of the Sinister mail archives. The recent book on B&S by Scott Plagenheof (thanks for the mention Scott!) mentioned how the archives had been lost years ago, and how this was a pity because Sinister in some ways represented that brief golden age in the late 90s when the music and fan-based websites were in the hands of the listeners themselves, before we all got Myspaced out and Facebooked to hell and back by big money. It even made me wonder if those brief few years were worthy of some historical reflection in a decade or so: certainly, B&S are continually credited with being the band who raised roots-based internet support from scratch. I'm not quite sure if a historian in 2020 will be interested in why George Henry Dickie wrote mails as he did, or who Struan was and why, but these reflections on the loss of the archive gave me an odd smile and a twinkle in my eye (and sometimes a quiet, misjudged evil cackle) because I knew I had them all saved and was still collecting them: I just had nowhere to put them. Well... they're back. Check http://www.missprint.org/archives/html/sinister/ - and here's the facts ma'am: * Search doesn't work. It might one day, but it may be some time. I'm tired. * They don't auto-update with new posts. At the moment you'll see they're up to date from August 1997(!) to Feb. I can update them manually and will from time to time until I find out how to make it happen automatically. (this is the important one:) * No I will *not* remove that mail you posted in 1998 about your acne-filled drunken Sinister party horror-stories because you are now a high-earning barrister and frankly it's an embarrassment. This has always been how things are, and it's the same anywhere on the net, in a mailing list: you post something publically and it stays public. I don't care that you were 15! You knew the score. And you're earning a lot more money than I do, so you can hire a doppelganger to fool your barrister friends. I promise you I have a lot more to cringe and gasp at than you in the archives. Besides I don't know how to remove them. Each removal would take days of work. I'll try to stop google indexing them. OK? As for the webpages themselves at http://missprint.org/sinister: * Loads of stuff is broken, like "Hello to our latest list member", which should be followed by the member's name, but isn't, and so looks more like a general philosophical statement than a specific welcome: I quite like it really. I might fix it all one day, but not yet. Also, looking the Sinister site, my first reaction is a rush of horror at the hilarious 1997 HTML and formatting, and generally how totally un-Web-2.0 it is. It doesn't even know what a frame is! But then my *second* reaction is a giggle at how, in a way, I LIKE how bad it is. Is it so bad it's retro now, like formica? I'm hoping so. So, much as I'm tempted to update it, and fix all the broken links, and convert it to a preposterous content management system or some such twaddle, I think I'll leave it how it is - broken, and funny, and cute - the Internet as it was in 1997. And it still contains my little animated cartoons, which I was unaccountably proud of in 1997. So the website will probably remain like the mail archive: an funny, embarrassing historical relic of how the Internet was in 1997. I promised you a long time ago that nothing would be lost right? :) I wish I could come to the picnic! Have *fun*. Miss Honey, your faithful servant. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eric.brasure at xxx.com Tue Apr 29 18:51:29 2008 From: eric.brasure at xxx.com (Eric) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:51:29 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The tubes are back! Message-ID: <488ac0700804291051w734b5ba3x5305a28621ba5ba4@mail.gmail.com> Well, that's what Honey says, and I have never not believed Honey before. I tried sending this a couple of months ago, in that brief flurry of activity before Sinister broke, and I'm just egotistical enough to think that someone might find it interesting: It's so nice to read others' memories of our fair band. I have so many: Tigermilk: dorming in downtown Manhattan, the soundtrack to so many walks through Chinatown, Soho, and the West Village on my way to and from class Lazy Line Painter Jane: the tiny little flat in London I shared with someone from California, a neighbor starting to dance right at the end of You Made Me Forget My Dreams when it gets a little bit techno, her face falling when Photo Jenny started Legal Man: the record store I bought it from one early summer day in Newark, Delaware, a summer home from college Jonathan David: a short-lived relationship I had, listening to that CD over and over again as we hid from a New York summer The Life Pursuit: cold winter mornings commuting to work on the 7 train from Queens, pulling into Grand Central just as "Act of the Apostle, Part 2" would kick in And of course: If You're Feeling Sinister: the first boy I really had feelings for, the boy that gave me a mixtape whose side A contained an entire album from this strange band called Belle & Sebastian that he loved. I never fell in love with the boy, but my relationship with the band is still going strong, almost 10 years later. I'm glad it's still going strong for all of you, too. Best, Eric -- "Why are the machines so sad?" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Tue Apr 29 20:57:36 2008 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunny Set) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:57:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Cake and Cocktails Message-ID: Dear Sinister, I'm so glad you are back! Grainne and I were really quite sad when our picnic post didn't get through to you the other month - especially since we had told you about all cakes we'd been eating together (there was cheesecake and millionaire shortbread and doughnuts with jam and cream). I would hate you to think that all Grainne and I did was eat cake when were together. No, we also drank cocktails. Very pretty ones, that we had made ourselves. I'm very glad you are back now. Well done Honey for mending you! And just in the nick of time! Now we can all get excited about the 10th anniversary of the first ever picnic, picnic, together! It is very exciting! I hear you have things like sun down in London? In Cumbria we have snow and ice and rain but no sun. Well maybe some sun, and we haven't had snow for a while now. As Carsmile Steve mentioned Grainne and I are exciting modern young people and we created a Facebook event for the picnic: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=10804369038 Grainne taught me how. She is more exciting, modern and young than me. It is going to be a carnival you know? Facebook doesn't understand about picnics. Here is my content for this post: I woke up to Mr Struan singing "Seeing Other People" this morning on my ipod alarm clock (you see, I am very exciting and modern). The ipod alarm clock works by getting louder and louder until you have to reach over and switch off or turn it down. However today I didn't need to reach over and turn it down until at least half way through the song. It takes a lot of turning up to make Belle and Sebastian too loud. Well enough rambling, I'm off to read the secret histories of high-earning barristers and such. See some of you soon, and be thinking about the rest of you always. Love Rachel xx PS Guess what? I'm a saddo bedroom devotee who now makes saddo bedroom pop: http://www.last.fm/music/Blackberry+Wine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+