From idleberry at xxx.uk Tue Jun 10 23:39:07 2008 From: idleberry at xxx.uk (idleberry) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:39:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Monday morning wake up knowing that you've got to go to school Message-ID: <007601c8cb4a$cb69b4e0$6901a8c0@KRISTIN> Hello Sinister. Today I hooked up my old pc (the one with MS outlook and therefore my Sinister subscription) to life again. I found a post from a few weeks back, from Sam Walton. And it made me feel a little nostalgic in the head. So I thought I'd write. Writing to you now, is a bit like finding an old letter from a pen friend, and then following up the address and thinking "maybe they still live there". At the very least, should you ever try that approach then remember to put a senders return address, in the even that the letter gets there and they can reply, or the new resident can write Elvis lyrics on them. (By which, I mean "return to sender", NOT "in the ghetto"). So this is what Sam Walton did. He made me want to put cyber pen to web paper and write to an old friend. How are you? What are you doing these days? Traditionally, I suppose this is the bit where I tell you about what I'm doing, I guess. I started out, back in 2000, writing to sinister as a rather bored student. I had ideas about the world back then. Not wrong ideas, but naive ones, perhaps, and there was something more energetic about me then. Impatient, certainly and while not angry, maybe a little more challenging. I had ideas, and the world was going to hear about them, whether it liked them or not. The world of course, being anyone within earshot, either on the web or in the pub, or my then boyfriend who kind of just had to listen as I put the world to rights. I think I'm a bit different now. I'm a student though, again, although a much more dedicated one this time. I still feel very much though, in my heart, like the girl who signed up to Sinister eight years back. Still awkward, still very uncool, still very capable of putting my foot in my mouth (and as such, I have tried to retire from being a loudmouth, to varying results depending on alcoholic content and or nerves). Still feeling very much like that when I try to be slightly fashionable, I am more Dot Cotton than Fearne Cotton. Albeit, minus the ciggies these days. I dress like your mum would approve. I stopped dressing in a way that fitted my circles, because I found they didn't fit my wobbles. Plus, I could never do it justice, and I'm ok with that. I prefer to look now, rather than to be. I was talking to my boyfriend the other day about music. We were sitting at his kitchen table, and I was working on a suduko and we were having coffee. I asked him about his favourite song. And I decided that mine is probably still the same one it was eight years ago. I've never found a song that makes me feel the same. It's Expectations by Belle and Sebastian, you know. We discussed their recent albums, and I have to confess, I'm no longer a fan. They're no longer my "favourite" band. And that's ok. But if people ask what I'm into, and I have a sneaking suspicion they won't know necessarily the bands I might suggest, then B&S still make an appearance in my conversations. But that song, it's still good. It makes me think of when I was a student. I used to listen to it, in particular, in my final year, walking along to university in Norwich, on my CD player. First thing in the morning (usually late) and walking along, past the houses and across the meadows; with morning dew on the ground, a bit of a cool spring air, lots of bright sunshine and trees casting dark morning shadows and cars queuing along the roads as people drive to work in rush hour. You can almost imagine them now, back in 2001, sitting in mondeos and listening to Virgin radio or Radio One with Chris Evans or Sara Cox. Everyone's dads and uncles drooling over Charlie Dimmock in Ground Force, and her undecked features. The question of the day on everyone's lips was who let the dogs out? And that song playing, just to me. It's a song, I think, which is for summer mornings. Not the sort of summer morning where you sit out on a patio, with a hot coffee and orange juice. I mean, an average, dewy mid-week sunny summer morning. That's what that song was made for. When I think about other songs I've liked since then, I've liked lots of different ones over the years. But that one. It's like looking back through an old photo album, and seeing that cute, shy, bookish boy at school who you fancied, and seeing a photo of him, and realising he was actually quite good looking, and that even time and fashion hasn't changed your opinion. And that's what happens, I suppose. idles xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_sad_witch at xxx.com Fri Jun 20 21:31:20 2008 From: the_sad_witch at xxx.com (Gillian Kirby) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Echo's Answer Message-ID: <329123.58579.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Do you still exist, Sinister? Moreover, do I? Why silence? ========================================== "I mean I seem to be thinking practically all the time. I mean it is my favourite recreation and sometimes I sit for hours and do not seem to do anything else but think. So this gentleman said a girl with brains ought to do something else with them besides think." - Anita Loos, Gentlemen Prefer Blondes What the butler saw: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hey_mippy/sets/72057594054138864/ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From calumn at xxx.com Sat Jun 21 16:22:13 2008 From: calumn at xxx.com (Calumn) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:22:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: Echo's Answer (A duck's quack) In-Reply-To: <8d1dfe390806201537r6e417502o1f6a3fe3e54fe858@mail.gmail.com> References: <8d1dfe390806201537r6e417502o1f6a3fe3e54fe858@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8d1dfe390806210822u38fab455g1f3af144be9809a@mail.gmail.com> Hello there you lot! On 20/06/2008, Gillian Kirby wrote: > Do you still exist, Sinister? Moreover, do I? Why silence? I'll quote, if I may... "Cogito, ergo sum" (Latin: "I think, therefore I am") - Rene Descartes "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln I have, at least on Sinister, followed Honest Abe's tenet scrupulously for a long while now but finally my operation has been completed and I have had my scruples surgically removed! I'm glad that sinister is still alive and kicking (occasionally like a Croatian penalty taker!) and after Gillian's query I decided to type a quick missive to reassure you all that: Yes, I'm still here. Yes, My badges (when I wear them) are always upside-down. Yes, I'm still in the same job (nearly 10 years - a new record!) Yes, I'm happy and healthy and neither wealthy nor wise and Ooh! I'm getting married! (I'll not bore you with the details but a good part of my decision was "If it's good enough for Struan...") Some of you I have kept in touch with "off-list" (albeit with varying degrees of success) and some of you, to my eternal shame, I have not. My bad, mea culpa and oops: I suck at keeping in touch, rest assured that when and if I see you it'll be just like old times ;-) I have just read this the customary three times, I'll hit send now and go watch CSS on Jonathan Woss. Calumn PS - I just thought I'd mention the fact that I'm still in love with Aruni J's Sweet and Sour Tofu (http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/sinifood/arunij.php#tofu) although I have to admit to substituting chicken for the tofu, it all tastes the same anyway ;-) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcobraca at xxx.it> Sun Jun 22 22:33:52 2008 From: marcobraca at xxx.it> (marcobraca at xxx.it>) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:33:52 +0200 (CEST) Subject: R: Sinister: Re: Echo's Answer (A duck's quack) Message-ID: <20908410.783631214170432608.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Yes, I'm still here from 11 years! marco#7 hi Cal... >----Messaggio originale---- >Da: calumn at gmail.com >Data: 21/06/2008 17.22 >A: >Ogg: Sinister: Re: Echo's Answer (A duck's quack) > >Hello there you lot! > >On 20/06/2008, Gillian Kirby wrote: >> Do you still exist, Sinister? Moreover, do I? Why silence? > >I'll quote, if I may... > >"Cogito, ergo sum" (Latin: "I think, therefore I am") - Rene Descartes >"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and >remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln > >I have, at least on Sinister, followed Honest Abe's tenet scrupulously >for a long while now but finally my operation has been completed and I >have had my scruples surgically removed! > >I'm glad that sinister is still alive and kicking (occasionally like a >Croatian penalty taker!) and after Gillian's query I decided to type a >quick missive to reassure you all that: Yes, I'm still here. Yes, My >badges (when I wear them) are always upside-down. Yes, I'm still in >the same job (nearly 10 years - a new record!) Yes, I'm happy and >healthy and neither wealthy nor wise and Ooh! I'm getting married! >(I'll not bore you with the details but a good part of my decision was >"If it's good enough for Struan...") > >Some of you I have kept in touch with "off-list" (albeit with varying >degrees of success) and some of you, to my eternal shame, I have not. >My bad, mea culpa and oops: I suck at keeping in touch, rest assured >that when and if I see you it'll be just like old times ;-) > >I have just read this the customary three times, I'll hit send now and >go watch CSS on Jonathan Woss. > >Calumn > >PS - I just thought I'd mention the fact that I'm still in love with >Aruni J's Sweet and Sour Tofu >(http://www.joannou. net/topofthestairs/sinifood/arunij.php#tofu) >although I have to admit to substituting chicken for the tofu, it all >tastes the same anyway ;-) >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty- faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +- + Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +- + Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dougal at xxx.uk Mon Jun 23 18:21:46 2008 From: dougal at xxx.uk (Five Scal Louis) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:21:46 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Re: Echo's Answer (A duck's quack) Message-ID: <20080623181936.X28546@noisy.compsoc.man.ac.uk> Jun 22, Hello marcobraca at libero.it :} {} Yes, I'm still here from 11 years! {} marco#7 {} {} hi Cal... If this is going to turn into a role call, I've been lurking for about 10.5 years... this is my 4th email in that time... I hope you're all still here in two years when I reach the magically fifth post... sure to be good so you'd better stick around :-) Louis -- Character is much easier kept than recovered. -Thomas Paine Dougal at compsoc.man.ac.uk +44(0)7777 601 691 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+