From forestpines at xxx.com Wed Aug 4 22:38:34 2010 From: forestpines at xxx.com (FP) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 22:38:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You must be a fanboy if the unreleased songs are your favourites Message-ID: I came home today, opened my front door, and picked up the post on our doormat. Top of the pile: tickets to see Belle & Sebastian. Now, there was a time when I'd have known weeks beforehand that B&S were planning a tour. I'd have been down my local ticket emporium the very morning they go on sale - in fact, I can remember that happening a few times. This time, though, we were lazing about on the sofa surfing the net, when K - my partner - spotted B&S in the upcoming acts playing the Colston Hall. She gets a discount at the bar there, so we were rather tempted. And by the wonders of the internet: today, we open the door, and B&S tickets are waiting on the doormat. (Sadly, the other thing we bought at the same time - the new, final, Scott Pilgrim comic book, was not there too. Which was a shame, as I was looking forward to seeing how the plot ended. But I'm digressing) I spent tea-time today telling K about some of the B&S gigs I've been to in the past, before I met her, and the various different things that made them special. The gig at Carnegie Hall where Stuart played the first two lines of "Fox In The Snow" then froze cold. The gig at the QMU where Richard sang "Cool For Cats", disguising the lyric sheet by hiding it inside a porn mag. The Barrowlands gig where Stuart pretended to get himself arrested; the tiny political benefit gig at Nice'n'Sleazy's where "Suspicious Minds" was the encore; the Red Cross benefit with an anti-war speech from Alasdair "Scotland's greatest living writer" Gray which most of the audience ignored. "You're such a fanboy," said K. "Actually, you're a lapsed fanboy. They're worse." (Digressing again, am I the only person who thinks it's funny that Nice'n'Sleazy's, the bar, with a name like that, is directly opposite a "dungeon" where perverted-but-well-off middle-class men pay perverted-and-like-the-cash middle-aged dominatrixes (dominatrices?) to tie them up and beat them? You have to admit, the coincidence of names is a happy one. I say "dungeon" in scare quotes because it's on the second floor, and, well, to my mind a dungeon isn't a dungeon unless it's under a castle, or a mansion at the very least. If you stand outside Nice'n'Sleazy's on the right nights, you can see the dominatrices (dominatrixes?) hanging out of the window, puffing on their cigarettes, watching the Glasgow nightlife below.) I tried to make my name as a B&S fanboy, a year or so back. There's a game show on the telly here, called Mastermind, a very simple idea with few tactics, where contestants are grilled on subjects of their choice in the manner - explicitly - of a prisoner-of-war interrogation. I had nothing to do one day, and K had seen an advert for an audition. I turned up, proposing the few subjects that I'd managed to think up on my walk to the TV studios. "There's a band I'd like to do, Belle & Sebastian. They're not *that* well known, but they've been around over a decade now, they've released six full-length albums, and they've got a pretty big cult following." "That sounds good - there should be plenty of material to do questions on" said the researcher interviewing me. Better mug up on lyrics and tour schedules, I thought. When the producer phoned me a couple of weeks later, to tell me I'd got on the show, they still sounded very enthusiastic about "that band you mentioned, Belle & Sebastian." But when the BBC called back again a while after that, to tell me what I'd be answering questions about: no B&S. They'd been quietly dropped - presumably they already had enough band-themed subjects to feature, and as I'd suggested other things, my band were the one to get dropped from the series. So I never got the chance to prove my fanboy (or otherwise) status on TV - instead, I appeared to know startling amounts about French Revolutionary history and 1930s steam trains; and I would have answered questions about my favourite misguided poet, Robert Graves, if I hadn't been beaten by a shrewish woman who enters every quiz show going (according to my mother, who watches every quiz show going). Shame. (It's all a trick, incidentally. The questions aren't nearly as deep as you, not knowing the subject at all, might think.) Do B&S still do a cover in the middle of each set to let Stuart's (Struan's?) voice rest? Do they still have the same eclectic taste in support acts - I'm slightly sad that I never got to see any of the shows supported by Graham Fellowes. Do they still take requests? All this, and more, will be answered in December, in our little local concert hall that's a cross between, well, a concert hall, and the device Archimedes invented to destroy the Roman naval fleet. And I'll be the chap standing near the front, alternately saying "how much for a pint of Stowford Press? Are you sure they gave you the discount?" and shouting "PLAY HURLEY'S HAVING DREAMS! I'LL TELL YOU THE LYRICS IF YOU CAN'T REMEMBER THEM!" All together now ... "Hurley's having dreams / Little Hurley's having dreams / And he kicks and then he screams / And I can't get to sleep / Oh Hurley, I could weep" -- http://www.symbolicforest.com/blog/ http://www.twitter.com/forestpines http://www.flickr.com/photos/forest_pines +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jean.christophe.pacaud at xxx.com Thu Aug 19 17:52:03 2010 From: jean.christophe.pacaud at xxx.com (jean-christophe pacaud) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:52:03 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Board Message-ID: It was a rainy day today, so I decided to make my own Belle and Seb board : http://www.jcpacaud.net/phpBB3/index.php JC +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.uk Fri Aug 27 14:28:50 2010 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.uk (kenneth.chu at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:28:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A slight holla - ahoy Message-ID: Hello all, Friday the 13th, today, the 13th Birthday of Sinister, it is. Hope everyone's feeling good today, and your horoscopes are nearly perfect. There was a mini-sinister revival last month, and I liked that. P F and Sam Walton chewing the fat. And others joining in. All these names, Ruth A Deller! Mummy I ve grazed my knees! Robin Stout! FP! All good stuff. I wanted to reply but I was too busy recovering from World Cup excitements, I don't even remember what happened in the World Cup now. I still remember what a vuvuzela sounds like though. I hope B+S will use one in their next song/musical. So P F and Sam Walton had a debate about what "Funny Little Frog" meant. I never actually knew what the actual line with "funny little frog" was, I kept hearing "You're the funny little frog I'm Eboue", and thought it was something political about Ivory Coast and France. But "I'm Eboue" apparently is actually the way Sturan pronounces "in my TH-RO-AT". Which I love. It's also been almost 5 years since the Barbican IYFS "Don't look back" gig. 5 chuffing years, can you believe? It's pretty mad. 25th September 2005, it was. Let's not look back, though. LOOK FORWARD Who's going to Bowlie 2? Who's going???? MMM??? (ghd?) Who's playing poker with me in a Chalet at 2am? Does Sturan play poker?? He must be quite loaded these days so might be a big fish to catch.. Is the new album going to be any good? Happy birthday, all of us. Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This email is confidential and is intended solely for the person or Entity to whom it is addressed. If this is not you, please forward the Message to mail.administrator at uclh.nhs.uk. We have scanned this email before sending it, but cannot guarantee that malicious software is absent and we shall carry no liability in this regard. We advise that information intended to be kept confidential should not Be sent by email. We also advise that health concerns should be Discussed with a medical professional in person or by telephone. NHS Direct can also provide advice. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Mon Aug 30 13:12:46 2010 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Bank Holiday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <834868.40533.qm@web120719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thanks to Kenneth Chu for reminding us that it was a birthday, and for noting the latest list revival. I also remember the IYFS Barbican bash and associate it with Kenneth, and Carsmile. I didn't go to the gig! I just travelled to somewhere that I think was called Finsbury Circus, unless that was a different time. I remember turning up at the Circus picnic that didn't quite happen, and the rain, and then us going to a bar near the Barbican, which had tons of attractive chicks in it who I'm not sure had anything to do with the B&S event, unless they did. I saw in the Guardian about the new record and I was quite impressed and encouraged, somehow! I think I liked the way they said to write the name of the record on walls, in Glasgow or was it just anywhere? BTW the sinistrine who created a new board about B&S - wasn't it impressive? - included a thread for photos about that. Maybe we should all look at that board again. I saw a film recently called THE ILLUSIONIST which was like old-time Sinister List Content, ie something people would talk about, praise, perhaps even hotly debate, because it had beautiful drawings of Edinburgh (no, not Glasgow) c.1950 or so, and it had a wee lassie who was just a wean really who cleaned a wee inn on a wee Scottish island, but when she went to the city she blossomed into such a bonnie lassie in wee white shoes and a lovely blue dress. It all reminded me also of Alasdair Gray who wrote about Edinburgh in the 1950s, and many years later did whatever he did with B&S. Now I am reading James Kelman's KIERON SMITH, BOY which is a long buik all about growing up in Glasgow in, some time, in the past, long ago, years ago it was. How sometimes you would be in the close and you could see a dog. If it was your friend's dog. Maybe it was. Then you could clap it. The fur on the dog was hard but you could clap it still. How it would be to have a dog. If you said, stay, stay, the dog would. Just stay. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+