From eric.brasure at xxx.com Thu Oct 7 16:16:51 2010 From: eric.brasure at xxx.com (Eric) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 11:16:51 -0400 Subject: Sinister: My curtains drawn, my thoughts composed Message-ID: Hello Sinister! I went to see Belle & Sebastian last Thursday. It was an outdoor show in Brooklyn by the East River. There were magnificent views of the city, and the weather was blustering and threatening to be apocalyptic. They played for almost two hours, and it was very nice. It was like running into an old flame that you still think of fondly from time to time. Every once in a while they'd start talking about some of the later stuff, when things started to go a little bad, but then they'd follow it up with that time early on and it was all good again. Now that I have a smartiPhoneajig I actually jotted down the setlist. I Didn't See It Coming (new song) I'm a Cuckoo Step Into My Office, Baby Like Dylan in the Movies I'm Not Living in the Real World (new song) Piazza, New York Catcher I Want the World to Stop (new song) Lord Anthony Sukie in the Graveyard We Rule the School Another Sunny Day The Loneliness of a Middle-Distance Runner (Struan wasn't sure if we'd know this one, as it was a B-side, and I scoffed. I allow myself a bit of cooler-than-thou about this band) Write About Love There's Too Much Love The Boy with the Arab Strap If You Find Yourself Caught in Love Judy and the Dream of Horses Sleep the Clock Around Encore Me and the Major Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying I was surprised by how much stuff they played from DCW, but I'm finding that album to have some serious legs, so perhaps I shouldn't be. The songs sound amazing live, especially Piazza. Serious lack of anything from FISHYCLAP, which is fine, because I'm finding that album to have no legs whatsoever. I wasn't too impressed by the new songs, at least on a songwriting level (guys, I know, we all love Stevie, but he keeps writing the same song over and over again.) but the melodies are great. And every time I see them I'm impressed by how tight they are as a band. They switched from Lord Anthony to Sukie in the Graveyard in a beat, and then went to We Rule the School, and it all just worked. Maybe they'll come back in three, or four, or five years, and I'll go and see them again, and it'll be pleasant. Then again, maybe they won't, and that'd be okay, too. Love, Eric PS I leave you with this bizarre interview from America's very own National Public Radio (for which I will soon be working): http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/10/06/130382972/belle-and-sebastian-s-business-plan-a-taqueria-in-glasgow -- "Why are the machines so sad?" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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I am upset that she is getting married and moving to London. Trying to find something special to give her that addresses both, I dug up the poster I have from the show at the Warfield. If she can't have her own B&S experience, I can at least share mine, symbolized in an object that is very suitcase-packable. Digging through old sinister e-mails, I found - From: Kyla Schuller Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Greetings, TICKET I have 1 ticket, row G, for Saturday's SF show. Asking face value + charges, so $30. (un)lucky recipient will be able to sit next to me. I was that (un)lucky recipient. Kyla, wherever you are, thanks for organizing the picnic that day, selling me the ticket and being the (un)lucky person to talk to me through the show. Somehow, I thought that 4 years as an undergrad, interacting with women studies majors at Rutgers would have sufficiently prepared me for the conversation with someone so educated and gender aware. Sadly, it did not. It is hard to describe what happens to a person who is 3000mi away from home, goes to a placid picnic of welcoming Sinistereens and sees two shows of their favorite band. A few days later, you hear stories about your friends who need to pass through roadblocks and show ID to get to their apartments, carried water to firemen or were in a subway destined for under the towers but thankfully backed out to New Jersey. I tried to drive back from San Jose, saw the Nevada desert and ultimately flew back from Salt Lake. Things changed, I changed. John +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenneth.chu at xxx.uk Mon Oct 11 18:48:56 2010 From: kenneth.chu at xxx.uk (kenneth.chu at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:48:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ghost Write about Love Message-ID: Hi! I bought the new B+S album today! At the new Fopp on Gower Street, in fact, several doors down from home, strolled in on the way to work, the song "Write about Love" was playing in the shop but I couldn't find the actual album anywhere so I asked the lady there "Hello, er.. Do you have a copy of the new Belle and Sebastian album?" without acknowledging that it's being played quite loudly all around the two of us, so she probably thought I was a noob. She was nice enough though, found the album and handed in to me, then we both walked back to the counter, and I handed it back to her, and paid with my card, and she handed it back to me in a bag. I feel this is the start of a new romance. There, I just wrote about love. Very sad that there were no photos of Sally Sparrow on the inserts of the CD, but beans + gf reading books in the mountains is sweet. I'm still kind of sad that Belle and Sebastian albums no longer begin with Sturan whispering a line of melody, but I like this album! John Wojcik wrote: "Things changed, I changed." This moved me somewhat. I think about this perhaps every time B+S release a new album. Their music accompanied a significant part of my life, afterall. Things changed, I changed. The band have changed, too. I think it would be unfair/selfish/weird to expect the band to make another "If You're Feeling Sinister". I mean, really, I still listen to the red and the blue and the green albums like always, but I would feel strange to hear a new song that's about some kid being bullied in class, or having self-identity issues. It would feel.. contrived? To quote the song: "and it's dumb, thinking of you like the way that you were" The new album is lovely. I listen to it and get the feeling like meeting up with an old friend, one whom I don't often see nowadays because, we both live busy lives, and perhaps we no longer have much in common except for our shared fondness for one another, and for the past. But it's still good to see them holding well, and share a bit of the memory. I don't think my life signed with Rough Trade at quite the same time as B+S did, I probably still whispered first lines to albums until perhaps 2007. But now I'm writing about love, perhaps. Writing about writing about love. "I'm not living in the real world" is a complete rip off of "Everything's Turning Out To Be Alright, Everything" by MJ Hibbett though. Fuck that. Laters Ken P.S. "I want the world to stop" is totally "Knives Out" by Radiohead, but it's really good!! P.P.S. Looking forward to BOWLIE WEEKENDER 2 at minehead in December!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This email is confidential and is intended solely for the person or Entity to whom it is addressed. If this is not you, please forward the Message to mail.administrator at uclh.nhs.uk. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From laurelviolet at xxx.com Mon Oct 11 19:09:19 2010 From: laurelviolet at xxx.com (Laurel Violet) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:09:19 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Wrote about it Message-ID: I love you, Sinister, and I'm writing about it. I was innerlemming or lem or Laurel, and I was living in Chicago and I met and had good times with many of you, and then I broke my own heart and someone else's and ended up in Austin. Since I left you I met and married and now I've divorced and I'm finding my way back to the things I loved, and one of them is you (apologies, Carly Simon). New B&S albums always seem to come when I need them most and now is good. And I'm so cheered to see that Sinister is still here and it's the same, and the old folks are still kicking around here (Ken Chuuuuuu!), and we've got new songs to discuss and new days to Do Something Pretty in, and oh, Sinister, you'll always take me in. Tomorrow I have a long date with "Write About Love" -- I'm stubbornly putting off streaming it on NPR as sacrilegious, it's strictly a Tuesday-release-day-ritual thing -- and I'm sure I'll babble about the album then, but this about love is all about you. Laurel +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ianwatsonuk at xxx.com Mon Oct 11 21:06:27 2010 From: ianwatsonuk at xxx.com (Ian Watson) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:06:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dance About Love In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Sinister! If writing about music is like dancing about architecture, then surely the best way to Write About Love is to dance in, um, some architecture. Which is precisely what we'll be doing this Saturday at How Does It Feel To Be Loved? at the Phoenix in central London, at our annual B&S album special. Hurrah! If we'd have been sticking to our schedule then this year would have been "The Life Pursuit" but seeing as there's a new record it seemed like a good idea to do that. So we'll be playing every song from "Write About Love" over the course of the evening. Please come along for a dance. Ian x ------- How Does It Feel To Be Loved? Saturday Oct 16th The Phoenix, 37 Cavendish Square, London W1G 0PP, three minutes walk from Oxford Circus tube station, 9pm-3am, £4 members, £6 non members. Membership is free from www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk Guest DJ: Simon Balthazar (Fanfarlo) This is our annual Belle & Sebastian album special. This year it would have been the turn of "The Life Pursuit", but as B&S are releasing a new album at the start of October, we thought we'd feature that one instead. We'll be playing all of "Write About Love" over the course of the evening. We play: The Smiths * The Supremes * The Go-Betweens * Dusty Springfield * Belle & Sebastian * Love * Tammi Terrell * Aztec Camera * The Ronettes * Orange Juice * Beach Boys * The Temptations * Velvet Underground * Felt * The Shangri-Las * Primal Scream * Otis Redding * The Field Mice * Dexys Midnight Runners * Camera Obscura * The Four Tops * Melba Moore * The Orchids +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnnythreeb at xxx.com Mon Oct 11 22:35:11 2010 From: johnnythreeb at xxx.com (John Wojcik) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Ghost Write about Love In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <286224.37903.qm@web113806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Thanks Ken Chu. I was somewhat humbled that you were somewhat moved. Let the snarking begin! Let the John Wojcik johnnythreeb at yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ----- Original Message ---- From: "kenneth.chu at xxx.uk> To: sinister at missprint.org Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 1:48:56 PM Subject: Sinister: Ghost Write about Love Hi! I bought the new B+S album today! At the new Fopp on Gower Street, in fact, several doors down from home, strolled in on the way to work, the song "Write about Love" was playing in the shop but I couldn't find the actual album anywhere so I asked the lady there "Hello, er.. Do you have a copy of the new Belle and Sebastian album?" without acknowledging that it's being played quite loudly all around the two of us, so she probably thought I was a noob. She was nice enough though, found the album and handed in to me, then we both walked back to the counter, and I handed it back to her, and paid with my card, and she handed it back to me in a bag. I feel this is the start of a new romance. There, I just wrote about love. Very sad that there were no photos of Sally Sparrow on the inserts of the CD, but beans + gf reading books in the mountains is sweet. I'm still kind of sad that Belle and Sebastian albums no longer begin with Sturan whispering a line of melody, but I like this album! John Wojcik wrote: "Things changed, I changed." This moved me somewhat. I think about this perhaps every time B+S release a new album. Their music accompanied a significant part of my life, afterall. Things changed, I changed. The band have changed, too. I think it would be unfair/selfish/weird to expect the band to make another "If You're Feeling Sinister". I mean, really, I still listen to the red and the blue and the green albums like always, but I would feel strange to hear a new song that's about some kid being bullied in class, or having self-identity issues. It would feel.. contrived? To quote the song: "and it's dumb, thinking of you like the way that you were" The new album is lovely. I listen to it and get the feeling like meeting up with an old friend, one whom I don't often see nowadays because, we both live busy lives, and perhaps we no longer have much in common except for our shared fondness for one another, and for the past. But it's still good to see them holding well, and share a bit of the memory. I don't think my life signed with Rough Trade at quite the same time as B+S did, I probably still whispered first lines to albums until perhaps 2007. But now I'm writing about love, perhaps. Writing about writing about love. "I'm not living in the real world" is a complete rip off of "Everything's Turning Out To Be Alright, Everything" by MJ Hibbett though. Fuck that. Laters Ken P.S. "I want the world to stop" is totally "Knives Out" by Radiohead, but it's really good!! P.P.S. Looking forward to BOWLIE WEEKENDER 2 at minehead in December!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This email is confidential and is intended solely for the person or Entity to whom it is addressed. If this is not you, please forward the Message to mail.administrator at uclh.nhs.uk. We have scanned this email before sending it, but cannot guarantee that malicious software is absent and we shall carry no liability in this regard. We advise that information intended to be kept confidential should not Be sent by email. We also advise that health concerns should be Discussed with a medical professional in person or by telephone. NHS Direct can also provide advice. We shall not be liable for any failure to follow this advice. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neojonathan at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 16:26:15 2010 From: neojonathan at xxx.com (Jonathan Solari) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:26:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Long-time listener, first-time caller Message-ID: Hello there Sinister. How's your day going? Yesterday I picked up W.A.L. (doesn't quite have the ring to it that FISHYCLAP did, now does it? I have a lot to say defending that record btw, but I'll save my breath for now and not try your collective patience quite yet) and had my first listen. It was on my ipod though, post-rip, as no proper cd player was available to me at the time. For that I beg your lossy-format forgiveness. I also had an epiphany, during my listen. If we were to play Six Degrees of B&S, Norah Jones (Chexxx Mixxx) now ties them to The Lonely Island, and thus, to T-Pain and countless others. Food for thought. Also, the fact that Sunday's Pretty Icons mentions six-degree connections sent a chill down my spine upon listening to it. An omen! Another random thing that's always tripped me up, although I'm a bit late in mentioning it: The horn line in Judy and the Dream of Horses always always always makes me think of the old theme song to America's Funniest Home Videos. North American readers, care to weigh in on this? Anyway. I am frustrated that WAL (feels too close to Wal*Mart, shudder..maybe BASWAL is better? BALSA? BASMATIRICE?) has vinyl- and download-only bonus tracks. Chasing down songs across various formats is something that's frustrated me with Camera Obscura in the past (but something I've been happy to do since they're a trifle less prolific). I do intend to pick up BASWAL on wax at some point, but having to fire up itunes for one extra song, well. Tsk. Whine. Complain. "You've given us a brilliant new album, and I have to put in some effort now? Waaaahhhh." Well, it's nice to have finally stopped lurking, I'd like to thank you all and say that I hope I passed the audition. Also, I'll see you at Bowlie^2. [Squeal.] --jon. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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