October 1997 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: eureka
by superbob 22 Jan '98

22 Jan '98

alright, everyone....and especially that one who wanted ideas of promotional stuff. i was driving in my car today and a little bubble rose above my head that said "eureka", because i know the best idea for promoting the next album. listen up: the first thousand copies come with a cd of tigermilk.....and only 1000 copies. no more. ever. that way we can get our hands on it, and it would still remain a rare collectable sort of thing. i think i deserve a nobel prize. now on to other business: i can't begin to name my favorite b&s moments. so here's some of my other favorite stuff: 1. when i wake up the morning and i go downstairs to get a cold glass of juice or milk or whatever, and i drink it and i can feel it coating my stomach because it's the first thing to go down there in a while. 2. going over a little dip in the road and you can feel your stomach rise like you're on a rollercoaster. 3. when it's raining and the sun's still shining bright. i love that. 4. when my philosophy professor gets all heated up and starts freely using the adjective "fucking". and sometimes he'll say "jesus christ" as an expression and you can see the ears melting off the holy rollers in the front of the class. there's more. but not now. i gotta pace myself. i do have one b&s question though, and i'll try to ask it delicately as possible. does the term "on the rag" mean the same thing in scotland as it does here in america? here, it's a crude term for saying a given girl is going through "that time of the month". i'm just curious for no particualr reason. oh and one more question...is stuart a very religious man? i read that thing where he went to church, and i've read a couple of other things, or is he just fascinated with the idea of religion? curious again for no particular reason. bye. brad ********************************************* that smile on your face i tried to erase that smile on your face but a kiss was not the answer a drunken kiss was not the answer (bill callahan) ********************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: press release
by plaird 10 Jan '98

10 Jan '98

>hey. a couple months back or less a press release was posted to the >list for 3..6..9. the one where some member of the band reckoned some >song on the new e.p. sucked or something to that effect. >could whoever posted that, or if anyone saved it, please repost it please. >thanks. >-brad Actually I didn't save the mail, but I was sent one of the press releases, so here it comes: BELLE AND SBASTIAN 3,6,9 SECONDS OF LIGHT EP RELEASED 13 OCTOBER - JEEPSTER featuring the songs: CENTURY OF FAKERS LE PASTIE DE LA BOURGEOISIE BEAUTIFUL PUT THE BOOK BACK ON THE SHELF Hello, I've been asked to write a press release for this, our latest record. I have never written one before. I have never seen any of our previous press releases. I don't have access to one, so I can't copy it. I'm in the group, I play guitar. I assume this goes out to journalists at the newspapers and the music press. I have not read that much on the group previously, but I believe we have done quite well with regards to exposure in the press: mostly positive, occasionally ecstatic and sometimes quite derisory. I don't care, I love it all. It's great reading about your group in the press, including the inevitable inaccuracies (but that somehow only adds to the fun). One thing though Much has been made of our unwillingness to do interviews and be photographed. I don't understand it. During the early summer you couldn't open a magazine without someone in the band's mug and words of wisdom staring back up at you. I suppose if we get perceived as awkward, contrary, Scottish Indie Popsters, that's the way it goes. I'm not complaining, it's only showbiz and I'm quite grateful for all the attention. Right now we are making more records and attempting to get better at playing gigs. I know we are a shambles, but we've only played about ten shows and the gaps between songs etc. are caused through ineptitude. We could never be deliberately contemptuous of an audience and we are trying to get better - HONEST! Which brings me to our latest record. It's really good, and I like it a lot. Track 2 is my favourite, although wee Chris on keyboards thinks it sucks. Track 4 is a really good song, which I think we could have done much better, although Mark at the record company went wild for it. Well, so much is in the ear of the beholder I guess. Anyway, I hope you will like it. Love Stevie. ************************************************************ and if that's not enough, I was also sent LLPJ, so here's the PR: LAZY LINE PAINTER JANE EP RELEASED 28TH JULY - JEEPSTER This is Belle and Sebastian's new single. It's about a girl called Jane, who is lazy. Belle and Sebastian are lazy too, but they don't draw lines. "It would take too much effort" (Stuart David - Belle and Sebastian). "I used to dream of making music this good, used to wish that I'd written all the songs that I'd ever fallen in love with. Then along comes this band who seem to drift effortlessly into my life, just to as effortlessly create the songs that I now fall in love with. After so long of liking half an album or half an EP, it's a bit strange not to be able to fault a whole back catalogue and they still continue adding to it. 'Photo Jenny' is all those moments when my innocent desire turned to innocent want (in the 'Pictures of Lily' vein). 'You Made Me Forget My Dreams' is the morning after you first tell someone that you love them and 'Lazy Line Painter Jane' has so far escaped meaning, It's just an epic of a song if 'just' can be used in that way. That's what these songs are to me, maybe they mean something totally different, maybe I read too much into these things. Either way I don't think I could carry on as I did, now I have these songs in my head." David Kitchen (Official Fanclub Agent) The "Lazy Line Painter Jane'EP is the second of the three summer EPs, all of which contain new material. The four songs on this EP are: LAZY LINE PAINTER JANE PHOTO JENNY YOU MADE ME FORGET MY DREAMS A CENTURY OF ELVIS ***************************************** Phew! yes, I've got a bit of spare time tonight. anyway, brad, could you save it this time? Byee! Paul <plaird(a)ndirect.co.uk> "Go to work on an Egg" - THE EGG Marketing Board ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: TOP 10 RESULTS
by hugh.atkins＠virgin.net 23 Nov '97

23 Nov '97

Thanks to all who sent their lists in, including the last minute ones this morning! The results were calculated using the famous EUROVISION SONG CONTEST SCORING METHOD ie 10 pts for first choice, 9 points for second etc. Apart from the top ten songs, I also used the lists to determine the following information - TIGERMILK is slightly more popular than IF YOU'RE FEELING SINISTER, and the three EP's are in this order of popularity: 3. 3,6,9 seconds... 2. LLPJ 1. Dog on wheels It seems that most people have a copy of Tigermilk, but those who don't voted like this: 10. DOG ON WHEELS 9. FOX IN THE SNOW 8. YOU MADE ME FORGET MY DREAMS 7. BELLE AND SEBASTIAN 6. STRING BEAN JEAN 5. LIKE DYLAN IN THE MOVIES 4. GET ME AWAY I'M DYING 3.= SEEING OTHER PEOPLE 3.= STARS OF TRACK AND FIELD 2. JUDY AND THE DREAM OF HORSES 1. THE STATE I AM IN And now the moment you've all been waiting for............... THE OFFICIAL B&S TOP TEN SONGS (including all songs, released and unreleased) 10.= LE PASTIE... 10.= PHOTO JENNY 10.= WE RULE THE SCHOOL 9. LLPJ 8. JUDY AND THE DREAM OF HORSES 7.= BELLE AND SEBASTIAN 7.= STRING BEAN JEAN 6. EXPECTATIONS 5. SEEING OTHER PEOPLE 4. MY WANDERING DAYS ARE OVER 3. GET ME AWAY I'M DYING 2. SHE'S LOSING IT 1. THE STATE I AM IN Of the unreleased songs that received votes, MODERN ROCK SONG is the most popular. I could probably do some more in-depth analysis with the all the results, but I was crap at maths in school and you probably don't care anymore now that the final 'chart' has appeared. And before anyone asks, the song that received the least votes ? There wasn't one. We love all the songs, don't we... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Rough Guide
by Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta 11 Nov '97

11 Nov '97

If the ball does begin to roll, I'd like to point out that what I wrote was intended to encourage others to at least join in. Some of what I scribbled down was completer cobblers, meant to provoke corrections or feverish defences of some aspect or other of Belle and Sebastian's music. Other things that I wrote I would be willing to defend to the ends of the indie earth. Let's just say that Mike Oldfield really shouldn't be there. If nobody else wants to play, I'd like the oppurtunity to rewrite it properly, hopefully following the suggestions of you lot, and then we could send it in as a joint effort. The 25 quid could either go to David and Katrina's computer appeal ot to hire a private mouse detective to look for Duke's missing cat. But I would definitely encourage others to have a go first. Somebody (probably called Paul) could either mix and match parts, or we could send in a load of ideas and let the professionals do as they see fit. Whatever happens I think it would be a shame to let this oppurtunity pass by. I shall sustain a huge beamer if we actually pull it off, so to speak. Does anyone (Katrina?) actually know the dates of their formation and so on? Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: B&S internet chat sesh
by susannah 03 Nov '97

03 Nov '97

Is there any way we can persuade the members of Belle&Sebastian to do an online chat session, so we can all ask them EXACTLY what La Pastie de la Borgeoise actually means instead of speculating? along with other questions, I would love to talk to them, am I slow off the mark or has one already been done, Perhaps Katrina and David could sort something out??????? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: dreadful truth
by Johnston, John CT 03 Nov '97

03 Nov '97

I must stand shoulder to shoulder with Nicola when the firing squad takes aim. I love Monica Queen's bit on LLPJ and I must confess to a youthful affinity to the oeuvre of Deacon Blue. Truth will out! The thing about Monica's bit on LLPJ is that it's so not Belle & Sebastian. Which makes it all the more great. Like the crazy keyboards on the as yet unreleased (how cool am i??) Tigermilk [the track not the mysterious lost album of the Incas] when they played it at Oxford; it was like a new texture or new dimension to their sound. Suddenly the band were rocking, or even rockin' (blimey!). That's what I love about B&S - so much variety yet with a clear common thread that keeps their work coherent. hot love john xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Selling out???
by Laura Hamilton :) 03 Nov '97

03 Nov '97

Hi guys, Well I've only been a member of the mailing list for a day and already I feel rather confused at all the goings on that I've picked up from the letters I have received already. Obviously I don't want to alienate myself with anyone, like everyone else I am here because BandS are a band I've finally found who seem to know what wavelength I am on -Poor Souls!! I'm afraid I don't have the beautiful way with words (or insults) and I don't want to aggravate anyone, but surely you can't say that a band signing deals, playing paid gigs etc is a method of selling out! Not sharing music that has been so lovingly nurtured with a wider audience of people is surely a much greater sell out. I mean you can't tell me artists must select their audience, limit it and even keep his/her work private, which, lets face it, without financial backing is what generally happens! Music should be available to the masses, you can't penalise certain types of fan for their flippant attitudes towards bands compared to the 'true followers' ("we were there at the very beginning"). just because some people don't devote their lives to a bands following,but instead discover them due to the hype (and yes I realise that bands being hyped is nothing but greed on the companies part), is it not better that the music has found someone else to touch. Music is not a status symbol, it's an expression of how someone feels, and if other people connect with it all the better. Music is about putting your finger on that one thought inside you couldn't quite place, that feeling that you couldn't describe that someone else has taken, moulded and put words and music to. Selling out is not getting your work noticed and rewarded (where would we be if artists could only work create part-time, with a job to finance themselves?). Selling out, in artistic terms is when their work is no longer for the good of the masses but for the masses of goodies. Thanks for listening, Laura :) xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Belle, Sebastian and the Pastels
by Walter 02 Nov '97

02 Nov '97

I've just read this in a french fanzine (Crême Anglaise, there's also an interview of Stuart David and Chris Geddes in it...) Stephen, of The Pastels, is answering a question about his hobbies : " I'm working in a library. I'm doing some writing also. I'm actually qoing to do a book with Stuart Murdoch of Belle and Sebastian. We're going to tell the story of Glasgow music from Orange Juice. It may be a book, but it will probably end up as a pamphlet! To both of us Orange Juice was a really important thing. We are very close to each other in Glasgow, we have so many things in common..." Well, I guess you already knew everything... It's just my modest contribution to the mailing-list... Walter -- " Get me away from here, I'm dying..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: re: little ink movies
by Andrew.Dean＠BULL.NET 01 Nov '97

01 Nov '97

duke: >Chris is wearing 'metallic sky blue nail polish'. >Nice to know that others are following the >manifesto as set down by the Living Room >Collective back in April ;-) chris was wearing nail polish at the borderline gig last november. andy bubbles burst while-u-wait 8) i'm now on page 25 and the people here at work are looking at me and wondering why i'm laughing. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Re-open old wounds....
by ben ferneyhough 01 Nov '97

01 Nov '97

Hello all. I'm a bit bored at work, and can't get the words to a certain song out of my head, except I can only remember 3 lines, and want to hum and mumble the rest. The only problem is that the song is 'Pocketbook Angel'. So far I can remember 'He's a marketing analyst, he's go it all on computer disc', and obviously, 'she's a pocketbook angel'. Can anyone help, and I don't mean to offend or hurt anyones sensibilities by asking, just needed to sing it properly, as my tape is at home !!! A not bragging Ben. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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