December 1997 - Sinister

Re: Sinister: Vote vote vote
by Smundy97＠aol.com 03 Dec '97

03 Dec '97

In a message dated 2/12/97 7:13:45 pm, Paul_Clarke(a)ipc.co.uk wrote: << You didn't hear it from me, but B&S are not in the top ten "Best Band"s in the NME awards so far, neither are they in the top ten "Best New Band"s either, so get voting... you can vote online at www.nme.com/awards/vote.html>> Paul, I suspect, given your net address, that you could get sacked for things like this ... still, good on ya!! simon directing traffic on the disco floor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Re: Sinister: obscure albums
by Smundy97＠aol.com 03 Dec '97

03 Dec '97

In a message dated 2/12/97 1:43:12 pm, keith(a)qss.co.uk wrote: <<does anyone else still have >the erasure release called crackers international? not really obscure, >but amusing 'cause it's one of the first tapes i bought for myself as a >kid.>> I know this is the type of pointless reply they tell you not to do on mailing lists, but yes, I bought Crackers International. I also distinctly remember the day I bought the Cocteau Twins Victorialand and the Erasure album with Sometimes on it - forgotten what it's called - and Malcolm, in Malcom's Musicland, Chorley, making some comment about how one of them MUST be a present for someone - they were both for me. B&S content .... erm ... anyone from Lancashire (Preston, Wigan, Bolton, Blackburn areas) who would like to meet up before Saturday's M'ter gig, e-mail me if you want ..... simon directing traffic on the disco floor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Stuffe
by Monaz 03 Dec '97

03 Dec '97

Um, first post to the list...not actually about anything in particular...I joined because I love B&S (well, don't we all?) and because the Grand High Master Paul told me to. Feeling a mix of annoyance and sadness cos Arab Strap have cancelled their Cambridge date. That's over a year I've been waiting to see them and I can bet that they'll tour when I have my exams next year. And Magoo were supporting them too...arse. Lame B&S con : A load of books fell on my 3...6...9 7" while it was playing, and it came away completely undamaged. Just goes to show really... Monaz ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: remember sinister?
by john monroe 03 Dec '97

03 Dec '97

> > > because they send shivers not just up my spine but fucking all over > because they make me want to stand in front of the mirror with a hairbrush again > because I haven't felt like this about a band since 1989 > because I've actually gone and bought a band T-shirt for the first time in years > because sometimes I think they're so good I think I'm dreaming ( no...really) > because i'm dead excited about manchester > because I'm actually willing to pay over a hundred quid for a bit of plastic IF > ONLY I COULD FIND IT FOR SALE > because judy does make me smile, and get me away makes me cry > because I'm listening to IYFS right now............ no more can be added to that, perfect! its...almost too good to be true... wish i could say more, but its all said, up there... very nice. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: is that what you're trying to tell me.......
by Richard North 03 Dec '97

03 Dec '97

The ONLY time that I have bought a record because of the soundtrack to a film is "The Graduate". OK fair enough I bought the greatest hits of Simon and Garfunkel but its almost the same thing. That film touched me and is still my favourite film OK - here is a discussion point What film would you (the list members) have with Belle and Sebastian songs as the soundtrack. Discuss. In my opinion.......hmmm......... I'll tell you all later.... from the paw of the pink panther or just Northy being escapist? _________________________________________________ ``A man is as old as the women he feels.'' - Groucho Marx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: My popology thesis is due
by PM - AU 03 Dec '97

03 Dec '97

Why does everybody think of being young as a good thing? I think it was shit. I much prefer being nearly thirty, and I'm looking forward to being a doddery old pensioner. Of course I'll still be digging those crazy sounds and all that. Unless I'm deaf, in which case I'll have to listen in braile. Get kicked out for coming home at dawn, Mum and dad curse the day you were born... Stray Cats, pure pop rock 'n' roll thrills at their most primitive. Reminds me of when I was sixteen, and of whenever they stormed the Iranian embassy. The trouble with Lester Bangs is that the music rarely lives up to his descriptions of it. I say "trouble" but it's not really trouble. I don't know what's pop and what's rock, but my two tips for touching the sky (or whatever the phrase was) would be Concierto de Aranjuez by Rodrigo and The Lark Ascending by Vaughan Williams. One's about a dead baby and the other's about a dicky bird. Three thousand quid to go on Later? Jools Holland must be well out of pocket by now. Spook, eh? Mitchell, I envy your TC knowledge. What a bastard. I won't take this lying down. I demand a rematch, prize or no prize. I'm sure I had something B&Sish to say, but it's gone. Ah yes, a skinhead you say? I hope the whole group are going to get skinheads and wear braces, like Slade. Geoff "Bullet" Baxter PS: Apologies if I sound bitter and twisted today. It's because I am. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: pop and non-pop; Coronation Street; Xmas songs (lon g-ish, no real B&S)
by Hopkins T 03 Dec '97

03 Dec '97

Duke: >A strange, but strangely natural concept :-) Pop is strange, and it is strangely natural. That's one of the things which enables pop to open up possibilities and sensibilities. Just because Vic Godard was strangely natural, and indeed naturally strange, did not mean he couldn't reinvent himself at the drop of a titfer, didn't mean he was tied down to some dull authenticity. The craphats in the Oasis/OCS campaign for real rock axis never seemed to realise that the essence of pop is always going to be more of: 'oh, look at this, it's exciting...', than 'oh, look at me, I've always been into (insert worthy vintage band name here)...' >A new way to do >things. Which was essentially Pop Yeah! And a new way to see and to believe and after that new way, another, if necessary. >others may agree >on 'Stairway to Heaven' and Deep Purple. Yes, >even. And to those people, i argue that those >moments are Pop, even though they will prefer to >call them Rock (and that is their prerogative), But duke, don't be afraid of getting back to basics, what's wrong and right. MY pop can and will never include Stairway to bleedin' Heaven or Smoke on the Water. Let those who want to incorpaorate those moments find their own words for their macho, thoughtless unchallenging guff. Let them have rock, or whatever, if it makes them feel more manly. Because the joy of the self-making that pop allows is the ability to place yourself _against_ as well as (more than?) _for_. >So: rock'n'roll the closest thing to heaven? NO >NO NO. But Pop as Personal Religion? Um, yeah, >sure, why not... Fantastic. And I'm a fundamentalist...."We Oppose All Rock and Roll". >Pop because Pop is obsessive, and is >obsessively about the moment of transendence... >it's always about reaching (back) to That Moment /That Feeling. Alright. And (if you'll allow me a bit of theory for a moment) how about pop as jouissance (dangerous moment of painful pleasure where ones very self is up for grabs) and rock as plaisir (undangerous pleasure of having your assumptions and predispositions confirmed)? S.Reynolds tried to use this set of ideas in justifying his love for the Young Gods/Swans/whoever but didn't seem to recognise that the emotional reaction to a noise/melody/lyric can be more potent than the more physical reaction to the sounds he was supporting. Enough of such tomfoolery. Stuart: >What I meant by populist was people writing (and releasing) songs purely >because they know that it will sell...Take That...it worked for the Spice Girls But your comparison was with groups like Radiohead. I think there's little more than a difference in marketing really. Radiohead are pushed as this 4-real bunch of serious artists because the market they're aimed at demands that. The Spice Girls/TT/Boyzone/etc audience don't care too much (it seems to me) and are out for what they enjoy, pure and simple. Which is great, in its own way. Rodney: >Anti-pop is Celine Dion, Bush, Ocean Colour Scene, Kula Shaker, Elton John, >bloody Perfect Day. Pop is All Saints, pop is Aqua, pop is Belle & Sebastian.Where's the problem in that...? No problem whatsoever. Couldn't have put it better. Matt, >There was an excellent reggae version of the coronation st theme tune, but I can't remember who it was by... Izzy Royal. Not so convinced about the quality myself, but there y'go... Someone else: > >Or name your top Christmas tune, seem as though we're coming up to > >the season of goodwill... 'Things Fall Apart' by Christina, which is not only my favourite Xmas record, but also my favourite disc on the mighty Ze imprint. Over a thumping disco beat Christina relays a sad chain of events which might even do justice to Belle and Seb's more melancholy moments: "there wasn't any snow, but there was rain he licked me like a candy cane and then one day he said 'I can't stand in your way, it's wrong' 'Way of what?' I asked, but he was gone. Things fall apart, but they never leave your heart..." After that, it has to be 'Archie The Red Nosed Reindeer', which is one of Tapper Zukie's less brilliant moments, but a goodie all the same. Still endeavouring to clean up my mail, and wet from trying to drown myself in the Clyde. there were too many Rangers fans doing the same thing on Sunday night... 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M````90```$152T4Z05-44D%.1T4L0E544U1204Y'14Q93D%455)!3$-/3D-% M4%0Z+2E03U!)4U-44D%.1T4L04Y$251)4U-44D%.1T5,64Y!5%5204Q42$%4 74T].14]&5$A%5$A)3D=35T@`````O=H= ` end ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Apologies
by Gordon A Rogers 03 Dec '97

03 Dec '97

Sorry for my faux pas with the bad taste joke, but it came from a secondary source (if in doubt blame someone else). Whoops - Gordon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: remember sinister?
by David & Katrina 03 Dec '97

03 Dec '97

sometimes in the mixing pot of this list i forget that we're all here because of a shared love and because i've just been moved by a song again... ...i'd thought i'd remind you all why we're here. but to do so needs you co-operation. if you havn't listened to sinister this week, go and sit alone in front of the stereo and play the title track or maybe 'judy', it should be enough to make you smile, and if it is, come back and let us know why you smiled, why you love 'em and why it seems just so damn important. david trying to be as inspiring as i am occasionally inspired. -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda@totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: SINISTER: we were the ones being robbed..
by elzachar＠online.no 03 Dec '97

03 Dec '97

Hi, to everyone who was at the quiz at John Snow last week. I was in the well named team Møkings Fiskebolle, and we lost. BUT at the tube on our way home we found out that we were cheated for 6 points...not that it really would have mattered, we were shite anyway..But to the ones there, I just wanted to let you know that we weren't that shite...! I didn't know that it was supposed to be a Sinister thing, so hello to all the people that I didn't get to si hi to! Elisabeth >From Norway, not Sweden...Hi Katrina! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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