November 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: Bus stories
by Frank Yang 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

I've got a little bit of a bus story which is more embarressing than anything else. I'm out for my birthday a few years back and naturally I have more to drink than someone who should be getting wiser as he gets older should have to drink. Needless to say, after, um, purging my system of all the excess alcohol, I'm feeling pretty nasty. Now we're in downtown Toronto at 2AM and the only transport out of town is the Yonge St all-night bus, truly a freak magnet (and affectionately dubbed the 'Vomit Comet'). So yours truly staggers out of the bar and makes it onto the bus, desite the jackhammer hangover that's decided to settle in the back of my skull. I actually get a seat on the bus, and promptly pass out. I wake up about half an hour later with my head on the shoulder of the person next to me, a genial middle-aged gentleman with a beret and overcoat. Seems I'd fallen asleep on my roommate's shoulder, but she'd gotten tired of dealing with me so she shoved my over onto the guy next to me. What a dear girl. Anyways, this fellow was nice enough not to toss me onto the floor of the bus for invading his personal space, and though I'm not sure if I drooled on his coat, I did offer my slurred thanks and apologies before stumbling off the bus hollering, "it's my birthday!". So, that's my story about meeting people on buses. Whee. As for a little Sinister content, I haven't noticed anyone mention the B&S article in the December issue of Select, with the very unfortunate Alanis Morrissette (apologies from Canada for inflicting her on the rest of the world) on the cover. The dodgy cover is made up for by the free CD (featuring Mogwai, Delgados and UNKLE, among others) and the lovely B&S article. I'd actually like a copy of the pencil sketch from the first page of the article. It's nice. Anyways, it's a good article and the silver PVC pants make another appearance! Someone should take Stu shopping... And I'd like to cast a late list crush vote for everyone who didn't get a vote. This is the nicest mailing list I've ever been on, and I'm sure you're all wonderful wonderful people. And I'm not just saying that. I now return to my regularly scheduled lurking routine. Good day. -- Frank Yang "I hope he tells us to burn our pants. These things are killing me." In my CD player: Stereophonics - Word Gets Around

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Sinister: Blue moons, lyrics, smut, Velocette
by Lucy Munro 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

Um, no I'm not new or anything, I'm just very lazy and only get around to mailing this list once in a very blue moon (considering the smut that's around these days). Has any one except me noticed the connection between Stuart M's inability to rememeber song lyrics and the gradual drafting of more and more people to sing instead of him? Next stop, the Sinister male voice choir... Oh, and talking of smut, I've an experience that I feel I should share with you - well, they say it's good to talk, so unburdening myself on 700+ strangers must be a good thing, right? (why are you all looking at me in that strange way?) As I walked into college on Saturday through the Embankment Garden, as it's nicer than walking up the Strand. At the top end, just before joining the road I was looking at one of the statues, which always intrigues me - a little mustached head on a plinth with a sorrowful nymph of some kind leaning against the plinth in a distraught fashion, it's the smug expression on his face that gets me - turned round and saw a man sat under a bush, with no trousers on, and, um, pleasuring himself as only men without trousers sat under bushes in the Embankment Gardens can. VERY strange. I mean, he was obviously enjoying himself, from the sound of things, but... I hurried off, because I was worried that he might speak to me (my friend Clare once had a bloke in a similar position say to her "so, d'you like what you see?" - urgh!!!) and then couldn't stop laughing because it seemed so unlikely. Is he a regular fixture? Do the tourist buses point him out? I haven't been back to check. Reminds me of an aunt of mine, who listened to a heavy breather on the phone for a minute or so, then said "Well, if that's the best you can do you're no good to me!" and put the phone down. Fluffy Sarah mentioned Velocette - yes, Get Yourself Together is wonderful, and Spoiled Children isn't quite so great (and I don't like the new one very much, they've sacked their drummer and seem to have forgotten how to P!O!O!). But if you like Get Yourself Together, try Hideaway and Strength by Comet Gain, which (at that time) was Sarah, Sam, Jax and Phil (the aforementioned drummer) from Velocette plus a shouty bloke called David. There was a rather good Peel session too (Velocette, that is) from the same sort of time as Get Yourself Together. Saint Lucy is the platonic ideal to whom we lesser Lucies aspire. Lucy ---------------------- Lucy Munro lucy.munro(a)kcl.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Here We Go, Here We Go, Here We Go
by Warrander John - FML 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

Isn't football bloody brilliant? I reckon it's a bit trendy now to be into sports and wear "casual" clothes and stuff so that's exactly what I'm doing. I was a Hibs casual once in a previous life you know, so I'm looking forward to The Acid House with relish. I've hung up my stanley knife now so any supposed threats of violence that Ratbag McTaggart has been spreading on my behalf are obviously nonsense. Like this one Peter Miller was on about: >Due to the imminent danger of being set on fire, I have to >clarify a point I made last week. No way did I ever make any threat of hopping on an aeroplane to Spain and setting fire to you Peter. That was just silly, macho posturing in our local pub after a few too many lager-shandies. I've had words with McTaggart now and sorted everything out. He was a bit pissed off that I wouldn't let him have his go during our Wednesday night Chorlton lesbians bum games. Especially since I'd already done him. Do you find he squirms around a lot in the love sack er, Bunnie-Wunnie? And that high pitched squeal. Yikes. I nearly left early. Anyway, Thursday night is my evening of choice for painting the town red. Tonight I thought I'd experiment with prostitutes. I'm a bit inexperienced though, would anybody like to pass on some useful tips? I forgot to tell you about my experiments with controlled substances. It wasn't very enjoyable. And my tongue hurt for three days afterwards. Stick to alcohol kids. That's my advice. My new list hero Brad said: >so duke ain't around anymore, huh? i hated that cocky >shithead anyway. glad to see he's fucked off and let us be. >always going on about his jasmine minks and felt this and >felt that. good riddance! And there was no need for it. Can I transfer my list crush again? And the lovely Genevieve told tales of her kin and spoke of people in raincoats who flash you and then dive out the emergency exit: >even those people in raincoats who flash >you and then dive out the emergency exit! I wish that was me. I don't go on buses though. I did go on some public transport in San Francisco. And the seats were like armchairs. A train to Berkeley it was and it was brilliant. I don't like the MUNIs though. They came to our school when I was a kid and they wore bright orange vests, just like stewards at the football, and they stole children. They didn't steal me fortunately or I'd have probably never got into shoegazing. I don't think they allow stuff like that on the MUNI. And I was being serious about Carter USM Genevieve. I loved them when it was just Fruitbat, Jimbob and a drum machine. But I never really fancied Jon Beast. Not cos he's fat and ugly as sin and looks like a pig though. Cos he didn't seem like a very nice person. Are we like ships that pass in the night? Love...John PS Lo-Fidelity All Stars had single of the week in the NME this week so they can't be shite. I expect you may be able to hear their latest offering at the NME web pages. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: like a red-headed stepchild
by brad 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

well, glory be! a year ago i couldn't get one single person to rejoice in the beauty of moose. it must be all you new types talking about them. i once had a moose website but webpages are boring to make and to upkeep, so i didn't. and i once startted thinking about making a moose mailing list, but i don't know how, so i stopped thinking. to the guy that wants to take me outside and fight: c'mon, but i fight dirty....real dirty. pulling hair, smashing bottles, kissing you full on the lips when you least expect it, pinching your ass, grabbing your cockles, tonguing your ear, licking your choad....you don't wanna mess with me, pal. i'll fuck you up. personally, i think the whole shoegazey thing was totally a class thing, designed to keep the poor man poor and the rich man richer. i mean, what better way to keep a stronghold on a nation's class system than by the use of loud distorted guitars and angelic singing? so duke ain't around anymore, huh? i hated that cocky shithead anyway. glad to see he's fucked off and let us be. always going on about his jasmine minks and felt this and felt that. good riddance! (you sure he ain't around, right?) whew! i've heard le mans. they are lovely indeed. i've decided on a new career move......i'm gonna get into television, and go to work at UNIVISION, the spanish channel. i'm gonna be a producer so i can utilize the ol' casting couch technique. have you ever watched that channel? i have no idea what the hell they're talking about, but 99 percent of the women are H!O!T! s.w.a.k. -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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RE: Sinister: I'm gonna love you anyhow
by John Stuart 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

>Slow Graffiti is rather gorgeous though isn't it? >Now that it's finally recorded 'properly'. I have to say I was very disappointed in the studio version of Slow Graffiti. The production on it is terrible, and Stuart hit's a few bad keys. It also sounds really bad when the band kicks in. I don't know what everyone else thinks, but I don't think it's the best track to put on a compilation (it will not get B&S many new fans). I'd much rather listen to the sessions version. Sorry, I think this is the first time I've ever been disappointed with something B&S have made. I was listening to Tigermilk this morning for the first time in a while, and I have to say that, IMHO, it's still the best thing B&S have done. I've got a feeling that when it's re-released, the music press will proclaim it a classic. Cheers, Nhoj. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: When the World's at Peace
by PJMiller 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

Bee content: Janine wrote: ok, any other questions about bees, just ask... sadly enough, I probably know the answer. If you bung a bumble bee up your bum, does your bum bleed, or does the bumble bee blow bubbles? Janine, you may be interested in wiggling your butt to the fabulous album "Hey Love" by Rotary Connection. It contains a song called "Hanging Round the Bee Tree" which is sung from the point of view of a humble worker bee who wants to get it on with the queen bee. He makes no explicit reference to the ensuing knob loss situation, but although it remains unspoken, I feel that this dilemna is what gives the song its peculiar dynamics. Jordi wrote: I am pleased because Jack + Hefner will be playing Barcelona the December 7th. It can be interesting to know for Mr. Peter Miller that they will also be playing in San Sebastian (good name for a lovely city). I look forward to forming an opinion of Jack and Hefner based purely on their live performance, as I did a couple of weeks ago with boring bastard Mark Lanegan. I heard him on the radio the other night, and it turned out to be quite good after all. Lo Fidelity Allstars are playing tonight, but it's well past my bedtime, so I don't think I'll be going. I hope they're shit, otherwise I'll be well pissed off. Respect to Jeanvierve (as I like to pronounce it) for her lengthy interpretation of JATDOHorses. This is what the list is all about. Yay! I shall now give my interpretation of the title of "Slow Grafitti": The writing is on the wall for Johnny, but he's a bit slow on the uptake. Clever, eh? Did I say shoegazing was shit? Hush ma mouth! It's fantastic. I had forgotten my favourite bargain bucket LP, Flying Saucer Attack. Also, there's some shit hot womble related stuff out there. Phew! I hope that gets me off the hook. Footwear-centric drone rock - MAGIC! Evil Bootlegger may like to know that I pricked my finger with one of those cute little button badges yesterday, and it still hurts. I trust we will be getting ink polaroids of that Salako happening. May I draw your attention to a splendid portrait of Mad Dog Murdoch on the Mummy page? It was done by my lovely wife, as a tribute to Lesley Jo's adventures in Washington DC. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: List crush vote results!!!
by Stuart Gardiner 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

OK, here's the moment you've all been waiting for (Actually I may as well admit - I was going to post a provisional list last week sometime, but I was winning so it was too embarrassing...). Any mistakes with names spelt wrong etc are probably my fault, but never mind. The list below is correct to the best of my knowledge! And the winner is... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8 votes: FLUFFY SARAH 6 votes: Peter Miller 5 votes: Honey Stevie Trousers And some Tall Git whose name escapes me just now... 4 votes: Genevieve Wesley Magnetic Megan Lehar 3 votes: FunkySeb Philippe Corpora Arenacea Chris Leonard Brad Joss Moorkens 2 votes: Keith Watson Reid Dossinger Oon Charlotte Hall Erin Lewis Archel Andy (Seymour?) Henry Thomas St Lucy 1 vote: Jake Reichert; Christa Chaffinch; Mark Casarotto; Adrian Evans; Mick McMick; Pam Berry; Susannah; Nick Dastoor; Jessica Murphy; Liz Daplyn; Joao Henrique Horst; Kevan Cooke; Andrew Nicol; Tara Widmer; Matthew Crooker; Becka; Tag; John Warrender; Xavier; Matthew Phintz; Gary Done; Linda Kerr; Vicky Parkinson; Monaz; Calumn Shearer; Martin Horsfield; Jennifer Phillips-Bacher; Anastasia Signoretta; Elisabeth (from Toronto); Lesley J Miller; Minnie Riperton; Claire Timmins; Humbert Humbert; David Kitchen; Chloe Sevigny; The French Girl on John Warrender's party invitation; and Teddy Pendergrass. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- So there you have it. Quite a change from last time, so everyone else, there's still hope! Failing that, you can always try bribing people to vote for you (I know at least one person who did...). A big hello to the person who tried to vote for themselves from a different email account - better luck next time. And an even bigger hello to the person who voted for someone and then changed their mind and removed the vote a few days later... I think most of the pairs of people who voted for each other are already couples, but there were one or two who weren't. I'm bound to silence on who voted for who, but the incentive is there for you to try and find out for yourselves... If there's anyone else you've got a crush on, let me know - if there's enough other votes I'll post an updated table, if not it'll help me keep up on the gossip ;-) Personally, I honestly wasn't expecting to get any votes at all, especially since I was compiling it myself, so a big kiss to the people concerned :-x (And no, I didn't make any of the votes up!) Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Sergeant Rock is going to help me
by Mctaggart, Robert 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

Sing hosannah! There was top comedy on the list today, provided by Jess, whose line "She died in front of her full-length colostomy bag" would ordinarily have been my quote of the week, but for the snippet from the Moose site which Rachael presented, which I sent to everyone in my office and now they think I'm a weirdo. What a shame, then, that the usually reliable Brad spoiled everything by these flagrant words of dispespect to the List's equivalent of a Chelsea Pensioner: >so duke ain't around anymore, huh? i hated that cocky shithead >anyway. glad to see he's fucked off and let us be. always going on >about his jasmine minks and felt this and felt that. good riddance! Brad, this man fought and died for us in what is now known as the War of the Stone Roses, and this is how you thank him? Wear your P!O!Ppy with pride. Those of you who still want to get their daily duke dose are directed to the Shalala mailing list where him and other veterans talk about the good old days, without the distractions of such low brow trivia as smut, crushes or, apparently, women. Genevieve, lovely, lovely Genevieve wrote: >is st-lucy still inspiring lust? She seems to be. And she wants you to know that neither of you should have bothered cos she only has eyes for the Peter Miller, el Guapo. She said something about wanting to recreate the final scene from Pedro Almodovar's "Matador" with him, and that, even though he clearly isn't a Basque separatist, he can seperate her from her basque any time he wants. She also said some very hurtful things to me about my sudden decrease in list crushes, and so I've enlisted the help of Sergeant Rock Watson. If I could only be tough like him, then I could win... my own...small...battle of the sexes. The Workshy Fop Warrender asked if we all still hated Steven Wells. Not at all. Did anyone see his review of Atari Teenage Riot in NME where he suggested that they sampled the death cries of Belle and Sebastian fans? How nice of him to think of us. I once spent a delightful New Year's Eve in the company of Atari's Alec Empire, there were nine of us in his VW Jetta, hurtling round East Berlin. He's a very nice young man actually, although he did keep asking me the best way to provoke the British when they toured here. Later we went to a club where a young Berliner, possibly high on drugs, kept telling me how he wanted "to lick a voman", while looking intently at my girlfriend. Ah...memories. Gabba gabba hey, Love tag xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sniffles
by Archel 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

i am saddened to report that belle and sebastian have actually been absent from my cd player for a good 36 hours now. this rare state of affairs is due to the fact that i have a cold and can't bear to ruin my listening experience with sniffles and sneezes and phlegmy coughs. but i still sing 'mary jo' every morning in the shower, snotty tones and all. jarvis cocker *is* going out with chloe sevigny i believe. i read a rather judgemental article that talked about him losing his nice-guy, man of the people credentials by dumping his psychiatric nurse girlfriend of 10 years for a film star. meeting people on buses: i'm more of a train girl, but asking people what they're reading sometimes works. i once spent an entire journey sitting next to a gorgeous guy who was reading exactly the same (penguin) edition of frankenstein that i had in my bag. but i didn't say anything. and i thought it would have been crass to take it out. oh, and before i go (inspiration being pretty short what with the cold and everything) i demand that the 2 people who voted for me fess up immediately. i adore you both and will write some more smut especially for you (rather than going on about my phlegm) if you just tell me... :) love to all, archel xxx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101(a)york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I have no goolies
by John Johnston 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

That was a great thing about the travel advice for visitors to this septic isle. And oddly enough it allows me to combine a number of threads with some list stalking... First of all I was on a bus, keeping it real. That's where all good stories start these days. Secondly I was passing Kew which as you will all now know is a fishing village in Wales. As I looked out of the window who should I see leaving their house but our very own David and Katrina. Katrina was looking like some kind of winter princess in a beautiful green coat with a furry trim. But David had surpassed himself for I swear he was wearing no less a garment than a Lord Anthony style parka!!! Truly a man on the edge of the zeitgeist. I salute you. Next week I'll tell you what I found in their dustbin.... xx John Johnston - that's with T but no E (an ideal night out) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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