November 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: NBSC - St Etienne
by Tara Widmer 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

<<san franciscans--saint etienne are here december 12th at slim's...>> You mean december 10, and yes, everybody rush out and get your tickets!! www.Ticketweb.com has been selling them for a week now, and cheaper than the OTHER, nasty ole fishy-ticket network that'll bleed you dry with so-called "service charges". (what *are* these 'service-charges' for? does anyone here work for TicketMonster or similarly evil ticket agent and can explain it?) i have no idea if the Et are any good in concert, but after waiting 6 years for them to grace our shores it's so exciting! break out the platform shows, lame gold hotpants and feather boas, I say! Girls, too!! someone asked about heroes, I have to say Ms Cracknell is quite high on the list for me. She has the voice of an angel and the kind of popstar-drag-queen icon thing working for her. Who cares about the wonky eye, she's just precious. They did this VH-1 (christ, i watch too much of that...) "divas" special and instead of having any real glam chicks it was all ho-hum city with Celine Dion and Pariah Scarey. Sarah is way cooler... oooh, quick look at the web shows The Crush Winners.... hehe how many of you will be disappointed to learn it's just me who fancies you....;-) ta, tara "the body" ventura +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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re: Sinister: shoegazing backlash
by Anastasia Signoretta 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

keith m. wrote: > i once had this discussion with someone and they > claimed to be anti-shoegazing because it was a > purely middle class phenomenon and that oasis as > heroes of the working class rescued fair england > from the pretenders with floppy fringes. that might have something to do with it...the cool indie brighton set consisted solely of poor working-class lads happily on the dole, dreaming dreams of socialism. throwing out retorts like, 'ride are only a band because mummy and daddy bought them guitars for their fourteenth birthdays.' ouch. but no, i think a lot of the indie kids just thought shoegazing was an 'over' scene and liking chapterhouse was sad...maybe it is, i'm not sure. stasia-wasia ------------- Original Text >From "keith m" <keithmcl(a)bignet.net>, on 11/10/98 12:13 PM: anastasia wrote >why is it that british indie kids like >to take the piss >out of old shoegazers? i once had this discussion with someone and they claimed to be anti-shoegazing because it was a purely middle class phenomenon and that oasis as heroes of the working class rescued fair england from the pretenders with floppy fringes. keith m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ InetReceived: from gatekeeper.wmg.com by corp2.wmg.com via 207.142.212.98 with SMTP-TCP; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:13:08 EST InetReceived: from internalif.wmg.com ([207.142.212.97]) by gatekeeper.wmg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA26997 for <Anastasia_Signoretta(a)wmg.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:06:35 -0500 (EST) InetReceived: from envy.ph.ed.ac.uk ([129.215.72.168]) by internalif.wmg.com via smtpd (for gatekeeper.wmg.com [207.142.212.98]) with SMTP; 10 Nov 1998 17:13:57 UT InetReceived: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA23123; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:10:13 GMT InetReceived: by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:10:04 +0000 InetReceived: (from majordomo@localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA23091 for sinister-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:09:58 GMT InetReceived: from yoda.bignet.net (yoda.bignet.net [204.254.120.10]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA23086 for <sinister(a)majordomo.net>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:09:53 GMT InetReceived: from bignet.net (port135.k56flex.bignet.net [206.67.96.135]) by yoda.bignet.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA15975 for <sinister(a)majordomo.net>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:10:36 -0500 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: shoegazing backlash
by keith m 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

anastasia wrote >why is it that british indie kids like >to take the piss >out of old shoegazers? i once had this discussion with someone and they claimed to be anti-shoegazing because it was a purely middle class phenomenon and that oasis as heroes of the working class rescued fair england from the pretenders with floppy fringes. keith m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: three crushes for me !
by Philippe Garnier 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

Big Stu warns : >Any mistakes with names spelt >wrong etc are probably my fault, but never mind. and then : >3 votes: >Philippe The spelling is correct :) and this result is unbelievable! "France, 3 points, France, 3 points (with the french accent) Frankreich, drei punkte (helmut speaking)" Well, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to thank my donkey Peter, my bluefish Megan and my goldfish Honey who named me in their crush list... What ? You didn't vote for me ! So who did ?? C'est un mystere bien mysterieux... Anyway, I will try to get of photo of myself soon, because at least 3 lovely listees certainly want to know the truth now :) Congratulations Sarah! Philippe, the boy with one E, 2 P's and 3 points. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the interview!
by charlie sewell 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

hallo martin,_________________________________________________________ 300 words, 22 words, I'm sure that no one here minds! Just put it up so that everyone can gaze lovingly upon their words of wisdom...i think what the world definitely needs right now is more articles about geniune geniuses like B&S, instead of lumbering buffoons like Liam Gallagher..._____________________________ cheers, Charlie ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: black sessions! anybody??
by Ecstasy Records 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

Hi! anybody would be kind making me a copy of the Black sessions on tape..I would appreciate it...Thanks :) ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: OT: Lucksmiths
by dave cohen 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

> > 2. The Lucksmiths. I've heard great things about them, but I can't find a > darn thing. Well, I did find a 7" available through Darla, but as I have > no vinyl-playing equipment, I'm at a loss. If anyone could help me out > here (locate a cd for me, tape a cd for me) I would do a variety of nice > things for you. Email me privately. > > un bacione, > jenn xoxo their record label has a site-- http://www.candlerecords.com.au/ that you should be able to order cd's from... --lapis +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The 1970's
by Adrian Evans 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

Steven Garland mentioned dogs on wheels and their ability to pull wheelies at will. Firstly, do puppies on wheels have stabilizers ? Secondly, It's always bugged me, but what if a dog on wheels owner came home from work, and the dog forgot his limblessness and tried to jump up and greet his master with an exchange of saliva as dogs inevitably do ? He would surely land on his back and be stuck with wheels pointing to the heavens spinning slowly to a halt like when a car overturns in the movies. Worse still, what if his master took him for a spin, sorry a walk down by the river and inadvertently forgot his pets challenged mobility and threw him a stick in the water to collect ? Disasterous...One drowned K-9 and his owner gets 6 months in Channings Wood for animal cruelty. It's a terrible world out there kids. Don your cardies and stay in your bedsits. Peter Sister Disco Inferno wrote : That certainly applies (at least the first bit) to the Gamble and Huff output in the seventies, some of the covers look truly atrocious, quite smelly in fact, like something you found in the mate's loft, next to their dad's porno mags, towards the end of the school holidays. That's not the only thing in the 70's that smelt. Remember the Panini f**tb*ll albums ? I swear blind the smelliest sensation in the world was opening a pack of stickers and finding you had a Bolton Wanderers player in there. P!O!O! Or worse still Ian Greaves the then manager....WIFFY. Or Wolves....Oooooooohhhh Phewie !...Kenny Hibbit...Oh !!! Or Leeds United....their kit STANK !! Trousers wrote : remember how Kermit the Frog would sometimes introduce his little nephew, Robin, to sing a song about being halfway up the stairs? No I remember him introducing his nephew Robin to sing "Halfway Down the Stairs". I'm not being picky, there's a world of difference. Yours Suitably Adrian.x.x. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: simple things
by Anastasia Signoretta 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

good morning, good afternoon, good evening dear bunnies, there are several things i need to address, but as i am working (aren't i always?) this will be brief: 1) list crushes: wowee zowee, someone has a crush on me! woo hoo, one vote! i must say i am flattered. i have no idea who you are, but please, if you wish to make yourself known do so. hee hee. unless it was mark that voted for me, in that case i *knew* all about your crush, wink wink. :) i myself didn't vote, cos i was afraid big stu was forwarding all the mail to the votees, but now i apologise for my paranoia and admit that stu is a top lad. cheers. if i did participate, of course my votes go for lorraine and queen bee janine (i tell you her wings are *huge* didn't you see them at the supper club?), who are indeed the most adorable listees. or, actually, my list crush is...well, i'm too shy to say, but i will tell you he fell into the five-vote category... 2) mark casarotto: i didn't realise he was so popular! yes, the fine boy travelled to new york, we corrupted him badly, and he returned as a man. i'm just teasing, of course! mark was lovely and as far as i know he had a lovely time. read his post for details... 3) placebo/gomez: i didn't get to go. :( 4) cmj festival: i only caught two gigs...the bouncy and bubbly komeda on friday (though i was feeling quite ill and couldn't 'get into it') and mojave three on saturday. mojave was *much* more impressive than the first time i saw them gig with lush in '96. i stayed awake this time. very pretty stuff...verging (dare i say it?) on the charlatans side at times, blame it on the hammond. we were saying though, mojave three is weird, cos we feel like we're looking at *slowdive*, but they think they're some band called mojave three...oh, and we caught six by seven. ace! otherwise, cmj was a bit of a disappointment for me, cos i was too lazy and exhausted after my belle and sebastian week and didn't make much of an effort to see anything else. of course i found out about all the good shows after they happened. :( 5) shoegazing/what i'm listening to/new music: i'd never describe myself as a shoegazer, that's always been lorraine's department and she's much better at it than me. :) but early ride/early lush/mbv/pale saints/slowdive/etc. i still listen to. why is it that british indie kids like to take the piss out of old shoegazers? i was tormented by the cool indie set in brighton (i used to live there) for requesting chapterhouse while we'd be sitting around doing nothing (which was all of the time). hmm. right now, as in right at this very moment as i type this, i'm listening to the walker brothers. the cds sititng in front of me for today's consumption: gene, longpigs, lush 'gala', the love compilation, stereolab 'dots and loops'. i've not bought anything recently (except for the gomez record, yeah!) but i'm thinking of checking out add n to x... and now for some belle and sebastian content! 6) 'seeing other people' - the sloooooooooow sessions version: someone asked about vocal parts on this track last week. verse one is definitely stevie. the three singers come together in one of the most lovely, if not a little shaky, harmonies at the end...*sigh* 7) my parents and belle and sebastian: always ones for new music, my parents are smitten with b&s. my dad actually attempted to take my copy of 'tigermilk' to work with him the other day, but i gracefully intercepted the steal. no chance of that being lent out just yet, as it's only two weeks old in my possession (cheers to francisco, who has sadly been bounced from the list). also: my mom tells me stuart m. sings just like donovan. agree or disagree? 8) b&s press: a one-page piece in this month's paper magazine (new york rag...the issue with christina ricci on the cover). mostly an interview with mick. it didn't teach me anything new. i don't know how i feel about all of this press! 9) stuart's silver ttrousers: phwoar. i lied about the brief thing...i promise to never write this much again. carry on... cheers, stasia +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Feel the Force of my Fist, Frozen Fiend!
by PJMiller 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

Did someone call me Killer Diller Miller, or did I dream it? Anyway, wierd psychedelic flashbacks apart, I feel the need to point out that Tag and I weren't the only ones to indulge in indie-windie pop name fun last year. I seem to recall Keithy Weithy sending me a lengthy diatribe railing and railing against indie-come-latelies that (unlike Keithy Weithy) don't own any limited edition Sha La La flexis signed in strawberry juice by Nealy Wealy himself. So respect is due to Keithy Weithy, mean-spirited indie completist. Nice to see that Jeepster have finally relaxed their views on copyright material! Speaking of which, I don't think Richard Branson gets any dough from Virgin shops these day, just trains and V2, not even Phil Collins. Mind you, I'm no expert. For those of you mourning the loss of the Duke, fear not, he tends to come and go. I've been meaning to clear up the great "Turn! Turn! Turn!" mystery, but I keep forgetting it in favour of even more useless shite. What I think happened is that when the church bazaar shindig was announced, someone expressed a desire to hear Belle Biv Devoe doing "I am a Pilgrim" in a Byrds stylee. This obviously anchored itself in the be-barnacled bottom of someone's brain, who then started having visions of B&S doing " a more religious Byrds song". This false memory was then reactivated by the news that our heroes had done "T! T! T!" in New York for a dare. It's raining like the very devil here. I'm listening to "Swamp Blues" by some blues legends. It's guff. Petey Wetey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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