November 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: Re I want a man with lips like mick jagger
by Niceaction＠aol.com 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

Tara wrote: <<Whatever happened to Mark Cassarotto? Word had it that he'd flown to America for the NY shows, but we've yet to hear him recount his debaucherous tales of an Englishman in New york.>> Would this be the same Mark that Stuart D dedicated Paper Boat to in the second NY show, to get him out of Lewisham ?? Ewwww Lewisham. !! why would anyone want to stay there.?? Jamie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Fw: 1998 Darwin Awards (fwd)
by Denise Power 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

I know it's long but really, it's so funny, especially no.12 I thought you peeps might like it ! dee ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:02:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Denise Power <denisep(a)netsoc.ucd.ie> To: tom o'doherty <tom(a)netsoc.ucd.ie> Subject: Fw: 1998 Darwin Awards (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 17:49:17 -0000 From: someone <cullenb(a)connect.ie> To: fjon <fjon.klein(a)kfunigraz.ac.at>, denise <denisep(a)netsoc.ucd.ie>, nuala <nuala.buckley(a)kfunigraz.ac.at> Subject: Fw: 1998 Darwin Awards "little green men do ok, it's the faeries' revenge they say" -----Original Message----- From: Conor Rapple <rapplec(a)hotmail.com> To: cullenb(a)connect.ie <cullenb(a)connect.ie> Date: 05 November 1998 16:03 Subject: Fwd: 1998 Darwin Awards >hi girlie >here's stuff > >> >>1998 Darwin Awards >> >>They have finally been released! >> >>For those not familiar with the Darwin Award - It's an annual honor >>given to the person who did the universal human gene pool the biggest >>service by getting killed in the most extraordinarily stupid way. As >>always, competition this year has been keen again. Some candidates >>appear to have trained their whole lives for this event. >> >>The Darwin Awards Nominees: >> >> 1. In September in Detroit, a 41-year-old man got stuck and >>drowned in two feet of water after squeezing head first through an >>18-inch wide sewer grate to retrieve his car keys. >> >> 2. In October, a 49-year-old San Francisco stockbroker, who "totally >>zoned when he ran," according to his wife, accidentally jogged off a >>200-foot high cliff on his daily run. >> >> 3. Buxton, NC: A man died on a beach when an 8-foot-deep hole he had >>dug into the sand caved in as he sat inside it. Beachgoers said >>Daniel Jones, >>21, dug the hole for fun, or protection from the wind, and had been >>sitting in a beach chair at the bottom Thursday afternoon when it >>collapsed, burying him beneath 5 feet of sand. People on the beach, >>on the >>outer banks, used their hands and shovels, trying to claw their way to >>Jones, a resident of Woodbridge,VA, but could not reach him. >> >>It took rescue workers using heavy equipment almost an hour to free >>him while about 200 people looked on. Jones was pronounced dead at a >>hospital. >> >> 4. In February, Santiago Alvarado, 24, was killed in Lompoc, CA, as >>he fell face-first through the ceiling of a bicycle shop he was >>burglarizing. >> >>Death was caused when the long flashlight he had placed in his mouth >>(to keep his hands free) rammed into the base of his skull as he hit >>the floor. >> >> 5. According to police in Dahlonega, GA, ROTC cadet Nick Berrena, >>20, was stabbed to death in January by fellow cadet Jeffrey Hoffman, >>23 who was trying to prove that a knife could not penetrate the flak >>vest Berrena was wearing. >> >> 6. Sylvester Briddell, Jr., 26, was killed in February in >>Selbyville, Del., as he won a bet with friends who said he would not >>put a revolver loaded with four bullets into his mouth and pull the >>trigger. >> >> 7. In February, according to police in Windsor, Ont., Daniel Kolta, >>27, and Randy Taylor, 33, died in a head-on collision, thus earning a >>tie in the game of chicken they were playing with their snowmobiles. >> >> 8. AUGUSTA, ME - Four people were injured in a string of bizarre >>accidents. >> >>Sherry Moeller was admitted with a head wound caused by flying >masonry= >>, >>Tim Vegas was diagnosed with a mild case of whiplash and cuts on his >>chest, arms and face, >>Bryan Corcoran suffered torn gum tissue, >>and Pamela Klesick's first two fingers of her right hand had been >>bitten off. >> >>Moeller had just dropped her husband off for his first day of work >>and, in addition to a good-bye kiss, she flashed her breasts at him. >>"I'm still not sure why I did it," she said later. "I was really close >>to the car, so I didn't think anyone would see. Besides, it couldn't >>have been for more than two seconds." However, cab driver Vegas did >>see, and lost control of >>his cab, running over the curb and into the corner of the Johnson >>Medical >>Building. Inside, Klesick, a dental technician, was cleaning >>Corcoran's teeth. The crash of the cab against the building made her >>jump, tearing Corcoran's gums with a cleaning pick. In shock, he bit >>down, severing two fingers from Klesick's hand. Moeller's wound was >>caused by a falling piece of the medical building. >> >> 9. TAOS, NM - A woman went to a poison control center after eating >>three birth-control vaginal inserts. Her English was so bad she had to >>draw a picture describing how she believed she had poisoned herself. A >>translator >>arrived shortly thereafter and confirmed doctors' suspicions. Marie >>Valishnokov thought the inserts were some kind of candy or gum, being >>unable to read the foil wrappers. After the third one, she realized >>something was wrong when her throat and mouth began to fill with a >>sour-tasting foam. She ran for the Poison Control Center, only a few >>blocks away where doctors were able to flush the foam from her mouth, >>throat, and stomach with no ill effects. >> >> 10. TACOMA, WA - Kerry Bingham, had been drinking with several >>friends when one of them said they knew a person who had >>bungee-jumped from the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in the middle of traffic. >>The conversation grew more heated and a least 10 men trooped along >>the walkway of the bridge at 4:30 a.m. >>Upon arrival at the midpoint of the bridge they discovered that no >>one had >>brought bungee rope. Bingham, who had continued drinking, volunteered >>and pointed out that a coil of cable had been left near the railing. >>Bingham's >>leg and the other end was tied to the bridge. >> >>His fall lasted 40 feet before the cable tightened and tore his foot >>off at the ankle. He miraculously survived his fall into the icy >>river water >>and was rescued by two nearby fishermen. "All I can say,"said >>Bingham, "is that God was watching out for me on that night. There's >>just no other explanation for it." Bingham's foot was never located. >> >> 11. On February 3, 1990, a Renton, Washington man tried to commit a >>robbery. This was probably his first attempt, as suggested by the fact >>that he had no previous record of violent crime, and by his terminally >>stupid choices as listed below: >>1. The target was H&J Leather & Firearms, a gun shop; >>2. The shop was full of customers, in a state where a >>substantial portion of the adult population is licensed to carry >>concealed handguns in public >> places; >>3. To enter the shop, he had to step around a marked patrol car >>parked at the front door; >>4. An officer in uniform was standing next to the counter, >>having coffee before reporting to duty. Upon seeing the officer, >>the would-be robber announced a holdup and fired a few wild shots. >>The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, removing him >>from the gene pool. Several other customers also drew their guns, >>but didn't fire. No one else was hurt. >> >> 12. In France, Jacques LeFevrier left nothing to chance when he >>decided to commit suicide. He stood at the top of a tall cliff and >>tied a noose around his neck. He tied the other end of the rope to a >>large rock. He drank some poison and set fire to his clothes. He even >>tried to shoot himself at the last moment. He jumped and fired the >>pistol. >> >>The bullet missed him completely and cut through the rope above him. >>Free of the threat of hanging, he plunged into the sea. The sudden >>dunking extinguished the flames and made him vomit the poison. He was >>dragged out of the water by a kind fisherman, and was taken to >>hospital, where he died - of hypothermia. >> >>DARWIN AWARD HONORABLE MENTIONS >> (1) In Guthrie, Okla., in October, Jason Heck tried to kill a >>millipede with a shot from his .22-caliber rifle, but the bullet >>ricocheted off a rock near the hole and hit pal Antonio Martinez in >>the head, fracturing his skull. >> >> (2) In Elyria, Ohio, in October, Martyn Eskins, attempting to clean >>outc obwebs in his basement, declined to use a broom in favor of a >>propane torch and caused a fire that burned the first and second >>floors of his house. >> >> (3) Paul Stiller, 47, was hospitalized in Andover Township, NJ, in >>September, and his wife Bonnie was also injured, by a quarter-stick of >>dynamite that blew up in their car. While around at 2 AM, the bored >>couple >>lit the dynamite and tried to toss it out the window to see what would >>happen, but they apparently failed to notice that the window was >closed= >>. >> >>AND THE WINNER IS.... Japan Times -- April 16, 1997 >> >>"The government must crack down on this disgusting craze of >>'Pumping'", a spokesman for the Nakhon Ratchasima hospital told >>reporters. "If this >>perversion catches on, it will destroy the cream of Thailand's >>manhood." >> >>He was speaking after the remains of 13 year-old Charnchai >>Puanmuangpak had been rushed into the hospital's emergency room. "Most >> 'Pumpers' use a >>standard bicycle pump," he explained, "inserting the nozzle far up >>their rectum, giving themselves a rush of air, creating a momentary >>high. This act is a sin against God." >> >>It appears that the young Charnchai took it further still. He started >>using a two-cylinder foot pump, but even that wasn't exciting enough >>for him, so he boasted to friends that he was going to try the >>compressed air >>hose at a nearby gasoline station. They dared him to do it, so, under >>cover of darkness, he snuck in. Not realizing how powerful the machine >>was, he inserted the tube deep into his rectum, and placed a coin in >>the slot. As a result, he died virtually instantly, leaving passers-by >>still in shock. >>One woman thought she was watching a twilight fireworks display, and >>started clapping. >>"We still haven't located all of him", say the police authorities. >>"When that quantity of air interacted with the gas in his system, he >>nearly exploded. It was like an atom bomb went off or something." >> >>"Pumping is the devil's pastime, and we must all say no to Satan," >>Ratchasima concluded. "Inflate your tires by all means, but then hide >>your bicycle pump where it cannot tempt you." >> >>Let's hear it for Charnchai Puanmuangpak, the NEW 1998 undisputed >>Darwin Award recipient! >> >> >>Thomas McCarthy >>mccartho(a)ie.ibm.com >>thomasmccarthy(a)hotmail.com >>phone: +353-1-815-8448 >> >>= >> > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". 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Sinister: b&s dream
by Evan Gregg 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

i had a dream about b&s once well they sort of made a cameo it was before i had any idea what they looked like i was walking into an amusement park (dunno what the brit term is but rollercoaster rides and what not) and there were a group of midgets holding up a sign that said "scottish Rock Band" and I knew in my dream that it was them weird i spose but nothing compared to my dream of lazines cancer and hypodermic needles and nails in people's feet or the one about the dead body and construction workers and snow angels ----Ev np-Olivia Tremor Control-Dusk At Cubist Castle (np is a tradition in the message board (newsgroup type thingie) i posted to on aol for years, meaning now playing as in what you are listening to ill do this until someone tells me not to) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Century Of Elvis
by Spaceman Stuart 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

Does anyone know the full lyrics to A Century Of Elvis. I love the song but can't work out all the words. Other good bands: Spiritualized (check out Broken Heart on the new live album). I bought the Field Mice album on saturday basically cause so many people had mentioned it and I love it especially Sensitive. Puressence are good as are Arab Strap, Joy Division, The Smiths, Sppacemen 3, I could go on and on here. I don't have a list crush which is probably due to a local barmaid. Still floating in space Stuart Spaceman Get your FREE E-mail at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Felt
by Michael Korchia 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

> From: "Bill Moss" <billmoss(a)hotmail.com> > I have a cassette from Felt called The Pictorial Jackson Review. I've > had it for three years - there are two songs on it that are really > wonderful and show clearly their influence on Stuart - they are 'Ivory > Past' and 'Apple Boutique.' I recommend getting this record. Could > anyone recommend another Felt record? They tend to be pretty expensive > here in the States. Try the comps : absolute classic masterpieces II, or Bubblegum perfumes, which covers the poppiest years, on Creation Records. __^o^__ Michael Korchia mkorchia(a)club-internet.fr Watoo Watoo Homepage : http://www.multimania.com/watoo/ Mumbly Homepage : http://www.multimania.com/aurore/emumbly.htm +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Lord Anthony ?1yrics?
by jimmy bryant 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

OK y'all, I have listened to this song over 100 times in the 2 weeks since the Athens show and I still don't know half the lyrics of this song but I am gonna post by my own translation from tmy recording. There are tapes going out to a few of you already so if you have any suggestions on these lyrics please post them to this list. I put in parentheses the lyrics that I don't think are correct, but that's what it sounds like to me: Lord Ant(h)ony (Hunting in beauty school, get your own bag) now you are cool or are you still (jebunking off) though you're a tough it's all gone wrong again you got to (hold hands) But the teachers got no control Boys aren't lying You wont stay quiet Or you will die Returning, the back of the gym Smoke another one, the chances are slim, 'Cause here they come again They got you on the prowl You're tasting blood again At least it's your own When will you realize it doesn't pay To be smarter than teachers, smarter than most boys, Shut your mouth, start kicking the football, (Buy all new teeth) you were out for a week You may as well take it in the guts, it could get worse just take it in the guts, it could get worse just take it in the guts, it could get worse just take it in the guts, it kind of hurts there (to me) You'll soon be old enough to leave the man Without a notion of a care You'll leave two fingers in the air (To me again) Tony, you bit of a mess (melt to) tow the rope under your dress But if the kids could see you they would pass you right by The mascara running over your eye Why don't you realize it doesn't pay To be smarter than teachers, smarter than most boys, Shut your mouth, start kicking the football, (Bang on a tear) you were out for a week They call you lord Antony (in pain) it could be worse Lord Antony but hey it could be worse Lord Antony but hey it could be worse Lord Antony but hey it kind of suits you anyway You'll soon be old enough to leave the man Without a notion of a care You'll leave two fingers in the air (To me again) end thats the best I can do jimmy thin_king "I read bad poetry into your machine I save your messages just to hear your voice" R.E.M. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: something that i do not believe
by carrick44＠juno.com 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

Evening all, Hope all is well in your neck of the woods. Things are okay around here. Hopefully get some rain tomorrow. Its been a while. Shame rain can't be spread around a bit more. Too much in England. Too little in Palestine. Way too much in Honduras. Thing in the paper today about a lady who got swept out to sea and lived to tell. She made a raft and survived on oranges and coconuts that floated by. Note to PJ and Keith. Some fellow around here painted this large mural that consists of all the words from Tommy. I suggest you get here before he paints it over some time in December. And Moe Tucker is playing here on Wednesday. Maybe you can get her to play your hometown. All she asks for in return is a 6-pack of Budweiser. Glad to hear of the forth coming Modern Rock Song EP. I remember about a year ago reading a little blurb in some music weekly about this EP. And it had this great picture besides it. This guy with a bike in, I assume, Glasgow, all smiles. He was wearing some sort of funny hat. Does anyone have one of these? I'd love to have one. I like to picture myself riding a bike around Glasgow dodging buses driven by daydreaming boys. Maybe in the next world. I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet, if so, I'm sorry, but in the latest issue of US magazine Magnet there's a two page spread on B&S. Pretty accurate for a change. It basically consists of an interview with Richard. He is "into rock and roll". Mentions how he sits at home listening to Husker Du. And he also mentions how Stuart Murdoch leaves the house early in the morning and doesn't get back till late at night and no one really knows what he's getting up to. And he wants it none that the band are a bunch hard-partyin' drunkards. Stumbling drunkards. There's also a little insight into the whole Chickfactor affair. Tantalizing stuff. Shilough just told me that his friend in Athens had the pleasure of selling our Isobel a Left Banke LP. After hearing that she was ill, I was thinking I might give her this Francoise Hardy LP that I have on my wall. But I didn't. Anyone else feeling ill? Maybe I'll give it to you instead. I should start being kind and considerate to my friends and loved ones before I start giving away things to the stars. To those to the West of me, pleasant dreams. To those to the East, get to work! Carrick ______________ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: you love me really, you just don't know it yet
by mkl206＠is8.nyu.edu 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

i'm not quoting today, i'm too tired, so i'll just recap what other people said. philippe said: i have a blue goldfish named megan. oddly enough, i'm named megan too! though i hope your goldfish doesn't do naughty things with your pink goldfish (honey), that would be rude. then brad asked how pretty i was. and no one else bother to anwser. that probably falls into the if you can't say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all. and he called me magnetic fields megan. this refers to my website, i'm not in the band (someone asked). it may also refer to the gravitational force with which i seem to attract rabid squirrels. there are a lot of them you know. i was going to try and drum up more votes, but tis no use. i live in the americas, and apparently the people on these shores are unworthy of votes. still, i got one vote i was after so i don't mind so much. ;) hehe. i never gave a tour journal of seeing belle and sebastian. this is partially cause the people i was with wrote our experiences out, including every embarassing thing i may have said or done, and also cause i don't really want to write this out. it's part laziness, and partially cause there are some things i don't really want to remember clearly. i think i'd be happies if instead of having memories flood back when i read about it, it all lives as kind of a blur of happiness in my mind. so i don't have to remember the particulars, but the overall feeling, which is the best part anyway. ok, gushiness over, i'll bottle the sentiment right back up where it belongs. xox megan mkl206(a)is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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RE: Sinister: other bands I like
by Sandra Duric 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

Pernice Brothers were also once the Scud Mountain Boys, with a beautiful slide guitar and a bass player who made his own guitars. Joe Pernice was the lovely vocals. They put out three albums, the last two were put out as a double CD on subpop in the states. The first, Pine Box, was recorded on a single mike, and is amazing when you think of that. A limited vinyl only release, with an amazing cover of Wichita Lineman. Thought you'd want to know, Alexandra Pernice Brothers- no girls (except on piano, occaisonal backup singing and some on strings and one on string harp)but an old boy hes like 30 or something with one of the pretiest voices you ever will hear, i wont try to describe the music cause all the bands that are easy to compare to them suck for the most part and its an insult to lump Pernice Bros. with them (the band is basically Joe Pernice w/ various cool people like Peyton Pinkerton from New Radiant Storm Kings (shoegazers i spose) and Thom Monahan from Lily's who are freaks) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Dexy's Midnight Runners
by Burt Reynolds 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

http://www.spiritonline.com/dexys/sound.html Check out the MIDI version of Come On Aileen. It'll bring a tear to your eye. ~Rachael Bristol ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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