November 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: sinister breakfasts
by gwenn belbeoch 08 Nov '98

08 Nov '98

Dear all, couldn't resist on that sunday afternoon, while i am working( life isn't fair) to reply to Weejay and ask you a little something : WeeJay wrote : Most of my >friends don't like B&S at all, but one person I know does ;-) My >best friend for years insisted on loving U2 and hating all bands that >are in the least bit girly, so disliking people who 'disagree' with my >taste has never been an option as that would mean having no >friends. don't worry you're not the only one : join the club!!!! just wanted to ask you guys if you have any idea of what it means to have breakfast every mornings with either Celine Dion or Bryan Adams? i do like a lot my flatmates,but not their music... hard to support sometimes believe me. (i guess that's the reason why i'm never late to come in at work....but that also explains why the first thing i do when i arrive is a 10 minutes break, listening to B&S or some other cool bands, coz their music completely stressed me out and put me in a bad bad mood, ) so i do understand what you have been written. this is my theory: nobody knows what the 'good taste' in music is, we can all have a different definition of it; even among us, i'm sure some of us like some musics that the others don"t. BUT what DOES exist is a universal definition of what the 'bad taste' in music (moovies...) is. isn't that true ? so, please, does anyone of you know a way to influence the real 'bad taste' of my flatmates to change it into something less worse...i won't pretend to influence them to the point that they'll love 'my' music. Let's say that first, i don't wanna hear this ironic tone in their voice when i am the one who is choosing the music saying 'what is this kind of music again?' anymore; and second, i am ready to hear a music i don't really like as long as it doesn't make me mad. hope you'll all have a better and sunnier sunday than mine!!! cheers, gwenn ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sinister breakfasts
by gwenn belbeoch 08 Nov '98

08 Nov '98

Dear all, couldn't resist on that sunday afternoon, while i am working( life isn't fair) to reply to Weejay and ask you a little something : WeeJay wrote : Most of my >friends don't like B&S at all, but one person I know does ;-) My >best friend for years insisted on loving U2 and hating all bands that >are in the least bit girly, so disliking people who 'disagree' with my >taste has never been an option as that would mean having no >friends. don't worry you're not the only one : join the club!!!! just wanted to ask you guys if you have any idea of what it means to have breakfast every mornings with either Celine Dion or Bryan Adams? i do like a lot my flatmates,but not their music... hard to support sometimes believe me. (i guess that's the reason why i'm never late to come in at work....but that also explains why the first thing i do when i arrive is a 10 minutes break, listening to B&S or some other cool bands, coz their music completely stressed me out and put me in a bad bad mood, ) so i do understand what you have been written. this is my theory: nobody knows what the 'good taste' in music is, we can all have a different definition of it; even among us, i'm sure some of us like some musics that the others don"t. BUT what DOES exist is a universal definition of what the 'bad taste' in music (moovies...) is. isn't that true ? so, please, does anyone of you know a way to influence the real 'bad taste' of my flatmates to change it into something less worse...i won't pretend to influence them to the point that they'll love 'my' music. Let's say that first, i don't wanna hear this ironic tone in their voice when i am the one who is choosing the music saying 'what is this kind of music again?' anymore; and second, i am ready to hear a music i don't really like as long as it doesn't make me mad. hope you'll all have a better and sunnier sunday than mine!!! cheers, gwenn ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: More smut than you can shake a stick at...
by Stuart Gardiner 08 Nov '98

08 Nov '98

Firstly, can I just reasssure people that if they tell me who they have a crush on I won't tell anyone else at all, especially the person they're voting for. I'll post the current standings in a couple of days time, so get those votes in now! As for going on looks or not, the original idea of the list crush way back when was just someone whose posts you really liked, so much that you wish you could get to know that person a lot better, rather than someone you've actually met. That was mainly because at the time not many of us had met each other. Now, any form of crush is admissible I guess, whether you've met them or not. It shouldn't just be on what someone looks like, we're deeper than that here on the whole, but there's no way I'll know so it'll still count. Just out of interest, last time I checked none of the 3 current leaders had photos of themselves on the Sinister site, which just goes to show. Anyway, lowering the tone a bit, I just thought you might like to know about (and maybe try out...) a game I was playing with various people at a (rather good) party last night. Basically one (or more!) person starts with an icecube in their mouth, which they then have to pass on to someone else by the obvious method. And it continues. Of course some icecubes melted during transit... (It really shouldn't take 3 minutes to pass an icecube should it?) Well I certainly enjoyed myself... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Ken Dodd's Dad, Henry Thomas et al
by Martin Horsfield 08 Nov '98

08 Nov '98

Some things that have been puzzling me this afternoon... 1) Henry Thomas - Sorry, but wasn't he the 'heavy heavy' bass player on TV's 'Rockschool?' 2) Ken Dodd's Dad's Dog's Dead, why weren't they signed? - Well, having played with them at the Red Eye in King's Cross, I would say it was probably because they're a crap cartoon ska band (they said they'd been signed to BMG, incidentally, an idle boast which I let ride because they lent us their bass amp and were quite nice really). 3) The Black Sessions. What is this item? I'm in the process of writing a cheque out for the good folk of Honduras and I still don't know what this mysterious item our generous German friend is offering to send. 4) What length of time do you estimate it takes for a 'Study At Stow' T- shirt to make it from Jeepster in West London to Martin's house in South London. A clue: it's coming up to a fortnight now... As for acts which have been savagely underrated (with accompanying glib descriptions of their art), what about... Duffy: he sounds like Nick Drake getting it on w/ Blur, though I think its just a phase he's going through Spearmint: Hey, Prefab Sprout get it on w/ Pulp in a school disco Grand Drive: Gene getting it on w/ Big Star, in cowboy gear Magic Drive: The Revillos getting it on w/ Bis behind the bike sheds (anyone else reckon that their singer looks like Gonch from Grange Hill?) Matinee: They're saying it's a Gene/Smiths thing nb/ Just add 'on drugs' to any of the above descriptions and you've passed stage one of 'How to write like Simon Williams in the NME'. Stage two is understanding when to drop 'ning' into a review, ie 'Pulp were absolutely ninged out of their nong last night'. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: an amalgamation of thought
by Blissxo＠aol.com 08 Nov '98

08 Nov '98

hi all, i'm very disappointed that even dando didn't actually post to the list. i was hoping that it was him, because i wanted to tell him about a dream i had where i was sick and he heard me playing my flute and he came to visit me to cheer me up and he was wearing a big furry moose costume and he gave me a big hug and i felt all better. but i guess he'll never know - boo. i say that fuxa are one of the most underrated bands. i'm listening to their album 'very well organized' right now and it's soooo good. very swooshy, a little like stereolab. no lyrics, just moog and guitars and "unexplained transmissions". but it's not like some ambient bands that just, like, record humming for 67 minutes and call it an album. nope, fuxa write actual songs, and if you fall asleep to this album you will have good dreams. and they say that it's pronounced "fyoo-sha", but i've always preferred to call them "foo- ksa". i think that fuschia is a silly sounding word, but fuxa is great. i got home after work (and much chatter with ahren, but no action i'm afraid) to find that my bulletin board had fallen off my wall - had i been in my bed, i would have been like flat stanley! that's so dangerous, i'm tempted to move my bulletin board over to the other side of my room and put posters above my bed to avert potential disasters. because anyone that knows me knows that things like that happen to me all the time. i've just got that sort of luck. you know, there has been quite a lot of my email that has been returned to me, undeliverable or some such nonsense. has anyone else been using aol v 4.0 and found problems like that? maybe it's just me. i'll have to send those messages again, because i wouldn't want anyone missing out on a single one of my thoughts. toodles, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Sunday morning ramblings.
by WeeJay 08 Nov '98

08 Nov '98

Bit of a shortfall of postings recently. Get to it *whip-crack- sound* I suppose we have to thank dawn for upping the smut level again, perhaps to never before scaled heights. She does, however, have an address scarily similar to someone on the CU list who I'm having a little scrap with at the moment (he started it.) Most of my friends don't like B&S at all, but one person I know does ;-) My best friend for years insisted on loving U2 and hating all bands that are in the least bit girly, so disliking people who 'disagree' with my taste has never been an option as that would mean having no friends. Dissapointed that all those 'celebrities' have been debunked, but there's still a remote chance that SA is lurking somewhere.... Meanwhile I rubbed my eye so much this morning that now I've got a horrible squint, which better go away before tomorrow night. This will be the first posting at all for 11 hours, which must be a recent record. I suppose you're all having lie-ins. Oh, I must go home and lie down, it is sunday after all. here's yet another ink polaroid: This is me, standing outside a large plain concrete sixties- style building with a crowd around the front door. I'm talikng to a gang of girls who are saying they met me last night, and I'm saying that I wasn't out last night, and they're saying they met me in 'the square baloon' and I'm saying I've never been in 'the square baloon' while wondering if some doppleganger is wandering around Southampton making a name for me. James(a)twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Black sessions and Tigermilk free
by Stephan Hammer 08 Nov '98

08 Nov '98

Hi all, I am very glad so many people responded to my mail - I knew there would be many good people on the B&S list. For all those who didn't get the message the first time, I'll renew my offer: I will make you a copy of the Black Sessions and Tigermilk (it all fits neatly on one tape). This I will do FOR FREE. What I would like from you in return is a donation to an organisation that helps the poor people in Honduras. That is, children in the first place. I am member of an organisation you might know, called PLAN international. Through them I've been having a foster child in the middle of Honduras for 2 years now. I am planning to visit her (it's a girl, age 6) early next year. That is, if I know she's still alive. Anyway, it is a very trustworthy organisation, and you know exactly where your donations will go. There are several ways to do this, just pick one. 1. You can donate to PLAN in your country. PLAN has offices in all major western countries. I asked them to send me the account numbers, but you might just call by youself: Homepage: http://www.plan-international.org/donors-en.html Adresses I picked out: Sweden Våra gironummer är PG 90 07 01 - 4 samt BG 900 7014 Luntmakargatan 46 11140 Stockholm Telephone: 46 8 58775500 Fax: 46 8 58775510 http://www.plan-international.org/sverige/ UK 5-6 Underhill Street Camden London NW1 7HS Telephone: 44 171 4856612 Fax: 44 171 4852107 US 155 Plan Way Warwick Rhode Island 02886 Telephone: 1 401 7385600 Fax: 1 401 7385608 2. If you live in or near a large city (with a Citibank) you might put the money on my account and I transfer it immediately. Stephan Hammer Citibank Germany account # 0212741345 Bank # 300 209 00 3. For US residents Dave gave me the address of another organisation, I included this at the end of the mail. 4. For the amount you are free. The more, the better, of course. Just remember, I am doing this for free and shipping to the US is especially expensive, so keep that in mind while deciding upon the amount. Anyway, thanks for your help. Stephan -------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's what Dave sent me: > > ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > > > > Concern America Honduras Disaster Recovery Campaign > > > > Concern America (C/A) has worked in Honduras for more than fifteen years, > > particularly in the northern coastal communities in the department of Yoro. > > This area is often adversely affected by severe rains, yet such is the > > only land available to poor, rural families. The recent deluge from > > Hurricane Mitch has been especially devastating to these same communities. > > The disaster has left the people without food, clean water, (for many) > > access by land, and, in a large number of instances, their very homes. > > > > Immediate needs, as told to us from our teams on the ground, are food, > > clean water, and medicines. Already the incidences of respiratory, skin, > > and gastrointestinal diseases are on the rise and need to be arrested > > before people become weakened and susceptible to even more deadly diseases, > > such as cholera, which is always a serious threat in such situations. > > > > C/A is dedicated to caring for the people in the communities with which it > > has worked in the past. While promising not to duplicate aid and services > > available from relief agencies, C/A will work to meet the health and water > > needs of these very communities. Already oral rehydration liquids are > > being preapred for and distributed to those most vulnerable and in need. > > Appropriate antibiotics and fungicides are also being made available. > > > > Since the prevention of life-threatening epidemics is a priority, two > > international C/A teams will be dispatched to the region (1) to assess the > > water situation, (2) to test water supplies, and (3) to seek out clean, > > reliable water sources. They will work hand-in-hand with C/A local teams > > by bringing in Del Agua testing equipment and training the local teams. > > > > C/A has the great advantage of being able to work through the local teams > > it has spent ten years training in health, public health, community > > organizing, and adult literacy. Team members have for years walked and > > bicycled along rural paths to the most isolated of local communities. They > > are well positioned to seek out and assist those most in need and > > vulnerable. > > > > If you would like to assist this Concern America effort, please make out > > your check to Concern America and send it to: > > Concern America > > 2020 N. Broadway > > P.O. Box 1790 > > Santa Ana, CA 92702. > > (Please designate on your check: Honduras Disaster Recovery Campaign.) > > > > Honduras is one of the poorest countries in the western hemisphere. Of the > > 191 countries worldwide, it ranks 149th in daily calorie intake and has a > > 132nd ranking in the category of "human development factor" (for purposes > > of comparison, the U.S. ranks 7th in both categories). -------------------------------------------------------------- There are people going hungry Far away They've got nothing on their plates And you're feeling your fat face With every single bite of cake (B&S: Century of Fakers) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". 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by Sarah Wheeler 08 Nov '98

08 Nov '98

Hey you people What do I do....do I go to see Billy Bragg AND Hefner or do I go see Salako on Sunday night????????? I'm in a mess, I'm in a dress!!!!!! Oh, and I'm drunk and have only come into the office to eat dips and crisps and peanuts and i don't know what I am saying.......aaaaargh Funny joke from Claire...... why do women wear make up and perfume? . . . . . . because they are ugly and smelly. . . . . ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I'm sorry Byeeeeeeeee Sarah xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Dun-ghan-dee
by John Johnston 08 Nov '98

08 Nov '98

All this talk of Ghandi or Dundee in relation to Seymour Stein misses an important point. Why did they change it from the original lyrics which I always thought were "North of Scotland has he seen?" which I admit could well be wrong as it's a tortured sentance. However I am in posession of some top secret Jeepster files which prove my point and may well go on to ROCK the Belle & Sebastian World to it's very FOUNDATIONS! The file is a transcript of a meeting between a shadowy Jeepster operative (aka Warlord), a Ms(!) H., Stuart Murdoch and Stevie Jackson. Murdoch, sounding more and more like his namesake Rupert, suggests that they should target the song at a more influential record-buying area than the north of Scotland. Somewhere with a demographic profile more likely to respond to their product and where they can shift enough units to keep them in Rich Tea biscuits in their dottage. What follows is a brainstorming session for alternatives... SJ "Has he ever seen Kircudbright - will he fly a microlite....hmm..NO..." SM "Has he ever been to Peebles - will he bring his famous weebles.....naah" Ms H. "Has he visited Kirkaldy - will he find the bus stops shoddy...maybe???" Anyhow this goes on for some time before they resolve to consult some statistics and put the proposals before a focus group of selected young people. In the end Dundee, City of Discovery, is selected as being a representitive urban area that people found the least worst option. So much for the creative process... I have a similar hunch that's what happened to Canada's Moxy Fruvous in their song "King of Spain". Once upon a time the line said "Now the Habs call me up to drive the Zamboni" then when they released the CD it became "The Leafs call me up..." In otherwords switching the focus from Montreal, after further unrest concerning the constitutional position of the province of Quebec, to Toronto home of more English speaking record buyers. Pah - deeply sinister I call it. It's all part of a big global conspiracy...it's the military-industrial-complex...it's..hello, hello - anybody there....ooh sorry Sir Cliff. One more thing - list crushes... I say they don't count if you've actually seen the person involved. Unless your crush began before you met or saw their picture. Email is the perfect vehicle for wonderful crushes on the most inappropriate people you've only ever seen in your minds eye. Some c'mon let's do it, let's fall in love with each other xx John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: re: wee chris on the radio
by Jillian Lin 08 Nov '98

08 Nov '98

tami wrote: >My sister who goes to Columbia taped Chris Geddes on the radio for me. >All >she said about it though was that I will be disappointed because it was >bad >reception. Which I don't understand because Columbia is right across the >street from Barnard! I still don't know what he did for, two hours was >it? >Somebody interviewed him for a bit I think. Did he play his keyboard >maybe? >Was he the only one there? I'll ask her about it. i know that i had to turn the radio to NONstereo mode to get proper reception but after that it was fine. chris came by at around 11 and brought along some records and played them for an hour and there were interview bits in between. he played: Fifth Dimension, Sunshine of Your Life Ramsey Lewis, Back in the USSR Phil Ochs, One Way Ticket Home John Phillips, April Anne Ramsey Lewis, Wade in the Water Rod Stewart, True Blue Time Box, Beggin' Sharon Cash, Fever Midnight Cowboy Soundtrack, Tears and Joys Ramsey Lewis, Everybody's Got Something to Hide... Dymaxion, 1-Man Transport Crazy Elephant, My Baby (Honey Pie) so yes, i have it on tape as well and would love to trade (esp. for any of the european sessions or any of the live tapes.) hopefully, this will help ease the burden off of tami's shoulders a bit. love, stanzi, who misses chat and especially Honey & Damon's tarting, JohnFM (whos grandfather did dentistry for chickens!), and dear Sezzie & miss erin. :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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