February 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: my crap penmanship
by baggy trousers 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

hehe! i got a phone call from my mum who is in scotland yesterday and she was telling me that she managed to get me all of the cds on my wish list...she said that my da went into 'missing' to look for one of the things on my list...i wrote 'any belle & sebastian on vinyl' and he went in asking for 'amy belle or sebastian' or something to that effect..he was told that they had never heard of amy belle...mum ended up finding one thing on vinyl for me but she didnt remember what it was..at least i know its most definately not tigermilk..mum loves me, but not that much. roberta **oh you look so tired mouth slack and wide ill-housed and ill-advised your face is as mean as your life has been crash into my arms i want you****** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Horriffic and terrible things at Warwick University
by jon g. 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

By the way, I was only joking about killing this bloke, so don't do it kids! -----Original Message----- From: jon g. <jon.g(a)BTInternet.com> To: Belle & Sebastian List <sinister(a)majordomo.net> Date: 21 February 1998 17:39 Subject: Sinister: Horriffic and terrible things at Warwick University >I was just reading the uk.music.alternative newsgroup this afternoon, when I >got a message telling me to go to >http://www.angelfire.com/sd/TechnoWonderland/Rant.html >I went because Belle & Sebastian were in the header. > >When I got there, I was outraged. To save you all having to go there >yourselves, here is what this person said: > >>CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THE VERBAL BLENDER ARE... >> >>BELLE AND SEBASTIAN >>Ooooohhhh, they're so nice aren't they? I mean, you sit down in a comfy >armchair next to the hi-fi, wearing >your cosy pink slippers, drinking some >of that lovely tea that Auntie gave you for Christmas, and after a >while >you just can't help but be envelopped in their fluffy bunny-wunny harmonies >and cutesy pop >sensabilites. Right? >>WRONG! >> >>Belle and Sebastian are turgid pop execrement accidentally diverted from >the planet Crap, sent down to >Earth when their sewage system went wrong and >the engineers couldn't be called out 'cos they were >spending the evening >watching 'The Fast Show' (3rd series). This is music for people who are >turned by >the sight of paint drying, people who wet their pants at the >promising thought of seeing Derek Jarman's >"Blue" on TV for the 17th time >(this time, though, they're going to remember to tape it so they can watch >it >whenever they want to). >> >>God knows how or why they have attained a position, at least in Britain, of >being a band on the pinnacle of >great success. Radio 1's Evening Session >has of course got something and everything to do with it, a >show which >quite unashamedly denies the chance for decent music like Puressence and >Dweeb to be >played whilst promoting unmittigated bollocks like >>Ocean Colour Scene. >> >>But the rise of B&S to prominence goes way beyond this. This 'outfit' is >one of the forefathers of the >NWOLMIC ('New Wave of Look at Me; I'm Cool') >movement, a harkback to the heady daze of the early >nineties when you liked >'indie' bands cos you were 'trendy'. Spiritualised, My Bloody Valentine, >Indie >Shmindie Pap Krap - you liked these cos no-one else did. Didn't >matter, of course, that the reason no-one >else bought the records was cos >they were the sort of bland, anaemic tosh that a sloth could make on one >of >his days off. >>These days it's the same; we've recently had the inexplicable rise of >Embrace to power - a group so >backward you'd think they had based their >whole existence on Kriss Kross - and the rebirth of Radiohead, >perfect >perveyors of the funereal dirge. Both of these encapsulate the late-nineties >ethos of 'NWOLMIC'. >Iffy songs? Boring live? Who cares? They're 'cool', so >I'm going to buy all their records and parade round >like a total gimp until >either a) I connect spiritually with loads of other 'cool' people who 'like' >the same stuff >as me and we live forever and ever in total musical harmony >(Amen), or b) I get twatted by a stranger for >being a dull-witted, >non-thinking tosser. >> >>Ultimately, though, I feel sorry for B&S, 'cos I'm sure they never wanted >this sort of adulation. I mean, if >you actually went into a recording >studio and laid down the kind of colourless aural wallpaper that they did, >>you wouldn't want others to hear it for fear of being laughed at. Obviously >some studio technician stole the >master tapes and went round to Melody >Maker for a joke, saying they were the 'Next Big Thing', and >events sort of >spiralled out of control. >> >>Still, I'm sure with your excellent musical taste you haven't bought >anything by them, anyway. >>**17th January 1998** >> >> >>If you believe the above to be TOTAL BOLLOCKS or alternatively GODLIKE >GENIUS, >>then e-mail me with a well-considered response. >>Thanks to the CB Boy (Warwick), Tom (Nottingham) and Graham (Glasgow), but >here's the best one so >far. >>Keep 'em coming... >>"'Sans' a whisper of a lie, I have never wet my pants at seeing 'Blue' on >TV, but as an indominatible Belle & >Sebastian fan, the opening bars of >'Blue' from 'A Storm In Heaven' have been known to strangle my >presence and >cause all sorts of mass hysteria including ejaculation. Just thought I'd set >the record straight. >PS Is indominatible a word?" >>Benita (Warwick) >> >> >>RE-ENTER THE SCENE >> >>Email: frujx(a)csv.warwick.ac.uk > >Response? I say the whole list should email him back to tell him that we >believe the above to be total bollocks, but that's just my opinion. Maybe >we should get his address and then wait outside the butchers for him with a >knife and a bike chain. If I kill him now, who's going to miss him? > >I notice from the sinister site that mauab(a)csv.warwick.ac.uk - >eculb(a)csv.warwick.ac.uk -mavgc(a)csv.warwick.ac.uk and pyuja(a)csv.warwick.ac.uk >are on the list with csv.warwick.ac.uk email addresses. Do you know this >bloke frujx(a)csv.warwick.ac.uk ?(A long shot - to know someone in a huge >institution by their email address, but you might do(!)). Ahhh - looking at >the newsgroup posting, his name is Rob Learner. This is getting pretty >dangerous for rob now - we know his name and where he lives!!!! > >jon g. >jon.g(a)btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ > >ps - belle & sebastian won both the album of 1997 and the single of 1997 on >my website voting thingy, so they should be receiving a polystyrene award >statue thingy in about two months time.... > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Re: Sinister: B&S related gig and The Box (fwd)
by Honey 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Keith was right. He often is. H xxxx ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 21 Feb 98 12:15:30 GMT From: Stuart David To: Honey <honey(a)Majordomo.net> Subject: Re: Sinister: B&S related gig and The Box (fwd) Wooops, Yes the date is this tuesday, Paul. The 24th Stuart ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Belle and Sebastian roast in Puerto
by Yummycats＠aol.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

I have about 10 copies of the Belle and Sebastian roast in Puerto left to give away to whoever wants them. You can get a little peek at what's in it by going to http://members.aol.com/fakeperson/index.html and clicking on "Puerto" (As I previously posted, it's only about 8 pages, being a supplement.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: nothing to say? so what!
by mkl206＠is8.nyu.edu 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

yep, that's my motto. mailing lists always need a little push in the time between releases by the band. so i'm trying to think of questions to ask the stuarts during the upcoming chats. that is, if they're still speaking to us after the questions that tag and peter asked. the big ones are probably when the album and singles are going to be released, and perhaps their titles. does anyone know what the next album will be called? and especially, the extrememly important, when are their next shows going to be?! and when are they coming back to new york!? i'm practically ready to make my plans for the summer around getting to see the band at some point, so this is definitely important. also, so we have about five people going to the autour de lucie show? i'm on the web page now, so you can come up to me and tell me what a wonderful person you think i am. or you can tell me to get off the damned list and watch me beat you to a bloody pulp!!! grr... ok, really, i'm a nice person. i won't be too mean, i know some other new yorkers and haven't attacked them yet, so see, i'm not that violent. usually. ok, um, maybe i should just scratch all that. so anyway, i will be there and ready to gush about belle and sebastian should the opportunity arise. that's all. see you there! xox megan mkl206(a)is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Catchers (non B&S)
by Yummycats＠aol.com 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

In a message dated 98-02-21 11:37:03 EST, samiam2(a)ix.netcom.com writes: << The Catcher's album 'Mute' is terrific. I think B&S fans would fancy the atmosphere of their music. I recall an article comparing them to the Cranberries a few years ago. Other than the fact they're both Irish and play somewhat jangly guitar pop, I don't quite see the connection. The lyrics are quite different from the Cranberries. In my opinion, their music is somewhat reminiscient of mid-80s REM. Other than the new single, the only releases I know of is the album 'Mute' and the EP 'Shifting' (which might be a promo, not an official release). >> I had a chance to see them open up for the Innocence Mission, but they got mysteriously ill. I'm guessing what really happenned is they looked out at the audience and saw that there were only 80 people out there and took off to a bar. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Re: Re: Evening Session
by Stephen_J._Wood＠andyclin.exnet.com 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Hi, Clem! Here's the info for the BBC Radio One 'Evening Session' B&S Session, which I have on DAT, and can transfer to Cassette, Minidisk, or DAT copy. Original broadcast dates: 08/09/97 Lazy line painter Jane 09/09/97 Sleep the clock around 10/09/97 Slow graffiti 11/09/97 Seymour Stein Sounds like you are missing 'Seymour Stein'. I have a DAT of the Saturday night Manchester show from December Do you have any B&S live stuff to trade? Do you know of any other radio or TV sessions? They apparently played at least one track live on the Evening Session, a few weeks before the above session was broadcast. Cheers! Rocker, rocker(a)andyclin.exnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Horriffic and terrible things at Warwick University
by jon g. 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

I was just reading the uk.music.alternative newsgroup this afternoon, when I got a message telling me to go to http://www.angelfire.com/sd/TechnoWonderland/Rant.html I went because Belle & Sebastian were in the header. When I got there, I was outraged. To save you all having to go there yourselves, here is what this person said: >CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THE VERBAL BLENDER ARE... > >BELLE AND SEBASTIAN >Ooooohhhh, they're so nice aren't they? I mean, you sit down in a comfy armchair next to the hi-fi, wearing >your cosy pink slippers, drinking some of that lovely tea that Auntie gave you for Christmas, and after a >while you just can't help but be envelopped in their fluffy bunny-wunny harmonies and cutesy pop >sensabilites. Right? >WRONG! > >Belle and Sebastian are turgid pop execrement accidentally diverted from the planet Crap, sent down to >Earth when their sewage system went wrong and the engineers couldn't be called out 'cos they were >spending the evening watching 'The Fast Show' (3rd series). This is music for people who are turned by >the sight of paint drying, people who wet their pants at the promising thought of seeing Derek Jarman's >"Blue" on TV for the 17th time (this time, though, they're going to remember to tape it so they can watch it >whenever they want to). > >God knows how or why they have attained a position, at least in Britain, of being a band on the pinnacle of >great success. Radio 1's Evening Session has of course got something and everything to do with it, a >show which quite unashamedly denies the chance for decent music like Puressence and Dweeb to be >played whilst promoting unmittigated bollocks like >Ocean Colour Scene. > >But the rise of B&S to prominence goes way beyond this. This 'outfit' is one of the forefathers of the >NWOLMIC ('New Wave of Look at Me; I'm Cool') movement, a harkback to the heady daze of the early >nineties when you liked 'indie' bands cos you were 'trendy'. Spiritualised, My Bloody Valentine, Indie >Shmindie Pap Krap - you liked these cos no-one else did. Didn't matter, of course, that the reason no-one >else bought the records was cos they were the sort of bland, anaemic tosh that a sloth could make on one >of his days off. >These days it's the same; we've recently had the inexplicable rise of Embrace to power - a group so >backward you'd think they had based their whole existence on Kriss Kross - and the rebirth of Radiohead, >perfect perveyors of the funereal dirge. Both of these encapsulate the late-nineties ethos of 'NWOLMIC'. >Iffy songs? Boring live? Who cares? They're 'cool', so I'm going to buy all their records and parade round >like a total gimp until either a) I connect spiritually with loads of other 'cool' people who 'like' the same stuff >as me and we live forever and ever in total musical harmony (Amen), or b) I get twatted by a stranger for >being a dull-witted, non-thinking tosser. > >Ultimately, though, I feel sorry for B&S, 'cos I'm sure they never wanted this sort of adulation. I mean, if >you actually went into a recording studio and laid down the kind of colourless aural wallpaper that they did, >you wouldn't want others to hear it for fear of being laughed at. Obviously some studio technician stole the >master tapes and went round to Melody Maker for a joke, saying they were the 'Next Big Thing', and >events sort of spiralled out of control. > >Still, I'm sure with your excellent musical taste you haven't bought anything by them, anyway. >**17th January 1998** > > >If you believe the above to be TOTAL BOLLOCKS or alternatively GODLIKE GENIUS, >then e-mail me with a well-considered response. >Thanks to the CB Boy (Warwick), Tom (Nottingham) and Graham (Glasgow), but here's the best one so >far. >Keep 'em coming... >"'Sans' a whisper of a lie, I have never wet my pants at seeing 'Blue' on TV, but as an indominatible Belle & >Sebastian fan, the opening bars of 'Blue' from 'A Storm In Heaven' have been known to strangle my >presence and cause all sorts of mass hysteria including ejaculation. Just thought I'd set the record straight. >PS Is indominatible a word?" >Benita (Warwick) > > >RE-ENTER THE SCENE > >Email: frujx(a)csv.warwick.ac.uk Response? I say the whole list should email him back to tell him that we believe the above to be total bollocks, but that's just my opinion. Maybe we should get his address and then wait outside the butchers for him with a knife and a bike chain. If I kill him now, who's going to miss him? I notice from the sinister site that mauab(a)csv.warwick.ac.uk - eculb(a)csv.warwick.ac.uk -mavgc(a)csv.warwick.ac.uk and pyuja(a)csv.warwick.ac.uk are on the list with csv.warwick.ac.uk email addresses. Do you know this bloke frujx(a)csv.warwick.ac.uk ?(A long shot - to know someone in a huge institution by their email address, but you might do(!)). Ahhh - looking at the newsgroup posting, his name is Rob Learner. This is getting pretty dangerous for rob now - we know his name and where he lives!!!! jon g. jon.g(a)btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ ps - belle & sebastian won both the album of 1997 and the single of 1997 on my website voting thingy, so they should be receiving a polystyrene award statue thingy in about two months time.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Catchers (non B&S)
by Samiam 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

The Catcher's album 'Mute' is terrific. I think B&S fans would fancy the atmosphere of their music. I recall an article comparing them to the Cranberries a few years ago. Other than the fact they're both Irish and play somewhat jangly guitar pop, I don't quite see the connection. The lyrics are quite different from the Cranberries. In my opinion, their music is somewhat reminiscient of mid-80s REM. Other than the new single, the only releases I know of is the album 'Mute' and the EP 'Shifting' (which might be a promo, not an official release). Sam >i really think that they are just the sort of band that a lot of belle and >sebastian people will like. Dale's songs are so gooood, and just keep >getting better every time i see them. He used write poetry, literally, in >format, style and vocab, but now they are getting a bit rockier. They've >been around for a while now, i know they started when dale was doing his a >levels, which he told me he dropped three months before his exams for the >music. errm he's around 26 now i think , so that's... errm, 8 years, i >might be wrong though, they always tell me and i always forget. they've >got a beautiful abum out called MUTE and you can get that and the new >single, Call Her Name from setanta : ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Various Bits
by G R Thomas 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Three! Yeah, me too. Lighthouse Family, or at least all their previous singles, are really lovely. Both of you are spot-on in your analogies. Cool, See ya later, GIDEONxxx On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 12:04:58 +0000 Richard Anderson <R.J.Anderson(a)durham.ac.uk> wrote: > Ruth McCurry wrote: > > 1. Am I alone in my love of the Lighthouse Family? I simply cannot hear > > Ocean Drive, Lifted or High without grinning and feeling like a newborn > > kitten. I would really appreciate it if I could know that there are others > > out there like me.> > > Oh My God.!!.(janice Impression:o) > There are two of us. Ocean Drive(single) and High are just plain > perfection. They are the kind of song that make you feel like you are > falling from the sky through fluffy clouds. Trouble is once you've > heard the the other LHF stuff doesn't sound as good. Is this true of > the new album or is the final, and title track, Postcard from Heaven > just as good. Advise me on this purchase soon as "Slain By Urusei > Yatsura" comes out March 2nd and thats a definite buy. > > Richard Anderson > http://www.dur.ac.uk/PurpleFM/presenters/anderson.html > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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