February 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: "sexy" roses, sad lyrics
by Tara Widmer 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

A.M. Horne wrote: >>I am the only person I've met so far who can see shades of "Do you think I'm sexy" in the intro to the Roses "I wanna be adored". Oh dear I don't think I'll ever be able to listen to that Roses song ever again in the same way! >>here is michi's soundtrack: (in no particular order) i wrote some of the lyrics down to reflect on the life that i've lead...(quite sad one that is..) Gosh, I wanted to cry reading your chosen lyrics... Cheer up, it can't be all that bad! WE love you! Do the band still read this? If so I would like to take the opportunity to personally invite all of them to lunch or tea or whatever when they come to San Francisco on their tour. (You WILL be coming here, I suppose? it's imperative. this city loves you) It is the very least I could do to show my appreciation for the many hours of joy their music has brought me, hehe. okay enough of my blethering, t. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: RE: Pleasantness Police
by PJMiller 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

-----Original Message----- De: Mcburnie <I.S.Mcburnie(a)herts.ac.uk> Para: Sinister <sinister(a)majordomo.net> Fecha: jueves 12 de febrero de 1998 19:25 Asunto: Sinister: RE: Old Bands >Jason Donovan????????? > >Piss off!!!!!!! > Officer, arrest that man! He's drunk and his flies are undone. Sentence him to three months in a bouncy castle followed by six months community service playing Twister with pensioners. I am now going to answer two questions in one: Ever read any crap? and Quincy or Columbo? Neither of them have anything to do with B&S: I've got a book written by hte bloke "Quincey" is based on, called "Coroner to the Stars". It's pretty good. Far too few people are aware of Natalie Wood's bravery when she fell off a boat wearing a snorkel parka. I can't really remember what other cases he was on, but my alarmingly ample knowledge of the Manson Family murders may have something to do with it.....I've also got a book about Columbo and the Manson Family. Again, few people are aware that Columbo was part of the investigative team way back on the morning after the sixties. Obviously he was a bit of a rookie then, but he was fully formed when members of the Family resurfaced with murderous intent. I read the whole "Coroner to the Stars" book, but I didn't bother with Columbo versus Manson. So the winner is.....Marcus Welby MD. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: re: videos (and tape trading)
by PJMiller 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

-----Original Message----- De: andrew dean <koogydelbbog(a)yahoo.com> Para: sinister(a)majordomo.net <sinister(a)majordomo.net> Fecha: jueves 12 de febrero de 1998 18:02 Asunto: Sinister: re: videos (and tape trading) >but money spent on videos / music must be disposable income anyway so >what does it matter what you spend it on. if it's not disposable income >and should be spent on food or bills or whatever then you are stupid. May I be the first to say: Ug ug ug beeewaaaaah ug plop plop pooh mweeuuoooeeegh ug ug thweeep belch! Hungry Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: More Pub Dilemmas
by Keith Watson 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

>Also I need your help settling a long running dispute... Quicy or >Coulumbo. Does Q's crusading attract or repel you? Do you love our >hate the C Mans bumbling sctick? Can you trust a coroner who plays >that muck poker? Or a detective that never washed? Do you find (as >one not unattractive female accomplice of mine does) Quincy 'a bit of >a shagmuffin'? Do we care? Are ther anyfans of the lawyer guy who was >in Vanishing Points series thi nger (what was his name?) Strange this Neil - cause we've been having a similar sort of problem, this has gone on for around about 5 years now, basically, is it: Airwolf, or Blue Thunder. Do you go for the Insectoid Menace of Blue Thunder, or for the sleek shark looks of Airwolf. There's numerous other factors involved here - Blue Thunder's got a "whisper mode " which allows it to hang about outside flats watching laydeez undressing, but by the same token, the bad guy is Malcolm McDowell, a hero in anyone's book - and if he wants Blue Thunder destroyed - so should you! Airwolf's copilot is the great Ernest Borgnine from The Poseiden adventure, and the Black Hole and stuff, so there's lots of pluses and minuses on either side. So me and all me mates would appreciate your votes and collective wisdom on the issue Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Dylan in the Movies
by john wigham 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

I'm sure the old hippy Honey will be able to correct me if I'm wrong, but Don't Look Back was the film of the tour which included Dylan's visit to Newcastle and his introduction to an eccentric elderly councillor, then sheriff of the city. her name was theresa russell and she was clearly off her head, which was why they found it amusing to include so much footing of her. incredibly, she is still a city councillor in her nineties and still recalls her encounter with that nice young man bob dylan with affection. -- john wigham ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Fw: Sinister: Dylan in the Movies
by Chris Borne 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

> The 'Don't Look Back' I guess refers to the film made by D.A. Pennebaker of > Dylan's 1965 British tour. > There was also a film called Renaldo & Clara he appeared in, I think its a > concert film but I don't know anything else about it. I thought I read somewhere that while BandS were in New York last summer, they filmed a video for Dylan in the Movies with Pennebaker. Has anyone seen this, or did I create this in my dreamlike existence? Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Nico ... the B&S connection ...
by Perfection As A Hipster 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

The moron posting under the confusing alias Perfection As A Hipster wrote ... >That's interesting, since I've especially recommended the _Chelsea Girl_ >debut album by Nico (born as Christa Pa:ffgen near Cologne / Germany) in a >private mail today ... > >And speaking of depressed and beautiful voices ... although that album is >inferior, "Afraid" from _Desertshore_ is probably the most touching moment >in the history of P!O!P! music ... imagine the intimate atmosphere created >by "The boy done wrong again" (my favourite B&S song) and think further ... >further ... further ... ... without mentioning the B&S connection. An excerpt from the liner notes of the incredibly marvellous _Ostrich Churchyard_ album by Orange Juice is called upon ... "In a nutshell ... included here for the very first time is this version of the ballad presented to Nico with a view to a collaboration. Unfortunately this was not to be. She would later tell the New Musical Express: 'Some Orange Juice isn't bad but I don't like the people at all.'" Thus far, I've only heard about one band covering "(To put it in a) Nutshell" with a female vocalist and thereby pursueing the original purpose ... "Little sister" Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Dylan in the Movies
by MWaggner＠aol.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

In a message dated 98-02-12 22:45:02 EST, you write: > There was also a film called Renaldo & Clara he appeared in, I think its a > concert film but I don't know anything else about it. Renaldo and Clara was filmed during the Rolling Thunder Revue tour that Dylan undertook in the mid 1970's. It isn't a concert film, but had a loose script that was sort of adapted to what was happening during the tour -- which featured Rob Stoner, Joan Baez, Ramblin' Jack Elliott, Allen Ginsburg, Joni Mitchell, Roger McGuinn, Ronee Blakely, Sara Dylan and many many others coming and going (including Jack Kerouac's grave). Dylan plays a poet named Renaldo, Ronnie Hawkins is Bob Dylan, Sara Dylan is someone called Clara and Ronee Blakely is Mrs. Dylan. Joan Baez is herself, a whore and a mystery woman... Something like 100 hours of film were shot and afterwards Dylan worked to turn it into a coherent film. It was panned universally, leading Dylan to say, "Maybe there are only two or three people in the universe who are going to understand what it's about." But hey, it was his $1.2 million, you know? Sorry to go on and on... too much caffeine too late -- and avoidance of other things ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: suggested reading material
by Chris Borne 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Has anyone else out there read "Our Noise" by Jeff Gomez? I found it in the discount bin at the Tattered Cover. This is a rather large bookstore, so I'm not sure if you'll find it at the local small shop. I really enjoyed it. The novel isn't going to go down as a modern classic, but here it goes: The book is about 20-somethings living in the States in the late 80's. Everyone is into the growing indy music scene, and the book takes place in Charlotte VA, or some such city. It actually captures the Gen-X feel of the 80's, and I identified with these characters more than with Copeland's, maybe because they listened to alot of the same CD's that I did. Not purely a grunge-fiction book, more like 80's punk-pop. The characters seemed very like my friends 10 years ago (Yes, I'm a bit older than most of the list members, I'm over 30, but don't shoot me) in a scary way, I remembered some of the sordid sides of the scene, drugs, sex, the sleep-with-me- because-I'm-in-a-band, and we're the next ones to get signed and out of this cow town. The view on relationships reminded me of some really bad break-ups, and stupid nights on the town, waking up in morally comprimising positions, so to speak. So, for anyone wondering what it was like to be in the US in the scene 10 ears back, or if you want a little nostalgia for those irresponsible days and drunken nights, this is a pretty fun and realistic read. It won't make the great classics of liturature, but I for one can't be heavy all the time, that's how this old fart stays young, by stimulating the mind with a good book, and refusing to act my age (Or even of drinking age, for that matter). So you all are subjected to my long-winded e-mails, as I act like the Peter Pan child within. I love you all, funny names and whatnot The crispy one ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Books
by Ruth McCurry 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

I just stumbled across this correspondence, so I've probably missed everything... The Secret History is good. My recommendation is The House of Sleep by Jonathan Coe (paperback due next month). Not only did it have the most beautiful tracing paper cover since Lowlife but it's the most B&S thing I've ever read, involving dreams, beaches, children and the best Wim Wenders joke I've ever heard. Much love, David ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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