April 1998 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: why i want to be a cheerleader
by mkl206＠is8.nyu.edu 17 Apr '98

17 Apr '98

oh, some may think it's for the sparkly pompoms or the terry underwear. but no, i have far more important goals in mind. i want to give pep, and i want to share my pep with all. everyone knows a football player can't go without a blow job, and we don't expect any less of the b&s-ers. so on behalf of the squad, come on in boys (and girls), we're happy to oblige! btw - did anyone ever see the sketch on the state about the cheerleader who was a performance artist? let's just say nobody was bothering her for "favors." so the chatters have discovered the joys of the find out which spice girl you're most like questionnaire ( http://www.virginrecords.com/spice_girls/questionnaire/form.html) this quiz is revealing our true personalities to an unprecedented degree. first off, amanda swannie, laurel piffy and keith keithy got baby spice. the final, conclusive proof, that yes, keith is a poof. lucas antexit (whatever the hell that means) is like posh spice, so keep your credit card away from him kiddos. and both honeypaul and i got scary spice, grrrr! so don't be messin' with us, that's all i've gots to say. ok, no other content, or anything approximating it. except if you like sitting for hours and not being productive, you'll looooooove the chatroom. ok, adios. (that's for jose there) xox megan mkl206(a)is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Arab Strap
by Claire Timmins 17 Apr '98

17 Apr '98

Hi all. THank god I have just got my email fixed. It has been off for two weeks. Anyway I am going to see Arab Strap tonight in Dublin. Is anyone going to be there? I will be there on my own as I don't know anyone in Dublin who likes them. So if anyone is going, I will be the girl with red hair pinned back in tufts with the pink trousers on with no friends. If you see me do say hello. Thank you. Love Claire. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: THAT NME interview part iii -Reply
by Pedro Rodrigues 17 Apr '98

17 Apr '98

Hi all, I think we should all be thankful to Andrew for posting the interview. It was a curious interview, probably because there wasn't much of an interview actually. I'll just try to encourage a little debate about the parts that caught my eye: >>> NME Interview <Andrew.Dean(a)bull.co.uk> 17 April 1998 9:45 >>> >They know that they are a rarity: a band who owe their progress almost > entirely to their own efforts and to the fact that their songs perfectly mirror > the tribulations of a long-neglected section of the record-buying public. > Stuart Murdoch's songs are a rallying point for the disaffected. For > the most part his characters are burdened with awful clothes and > physical deformities, they've been bullied and spent their lives as victims > and yet in these songs they're treated as heroes. And for many people > that's undoubtedly their appeal. In a way I kind of like the way Stuart's songs are described here (the heroic feeling one finds in our personal life, however boring or victimised), but perhaps songs about the disaffected aren't interesting only to the disaffected...? I guess I can like it even if I don't relate to the characters in the songs personally - I don't always feel they're me, sometimes I just feel I could be friends with those people... The people in this list don't (all) seem disaffected to me... they seem like the sort of people who could find human interest in many apparently boring, empty characters. Am I right? >>> NME Interview <Andrew.Dean(a)bull.co.uk> 17 April 1998 9:45 >>> > we're left wondering what we can make of a group that write > such poignant and heart-wrenching songs, but act with such incredible > self-indulgence. > From afar, their success looks like a triumph for principled actions, > up close it looks like an accident of bad behaviour. After all, here is a > band who seem to object to doing interviews and photographs simply > because they can't be bothered rather than because of any radical > manifesto. It's hardly punk rock. is it? Still, that's their prerogative. What do you listees think? Artistic statement of principles or self-indulgent bad behaviour? A careful mix of both? I'm going away for the weekend so unless somebody replies in the next 30 minutes, I'll be reading it next Monday morning (a nice way to start a "working" week :-). Pedro ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: Splatford to Lower Dean
by Hopkins T 17 Apr '98

17 Apr '98

Adrian wrote... > Tim Hopkins wrote : > > >Um, what else? Travelled from Rugby to Lincoln at the weekend in search > >of a football game which never was. Arse. > > Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Haw Haw Haw Haw Tee Hee Hee Hee Coo Hoo Hoo Hoo. > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > I have not got child-bearing hips.....alright ? > Adrian Evans > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Well, I had held my fire, but after this uncharitable little snurgle from Mr Evans, I have been stung into a reply. I caught my first sight of Adrian Evans at the Jim Shepherd show in Exeter a few weeks back. (The show, by the way, was rather great and emotional for me, partly because it was the welcome return of the most underrated voice of his generation, and partly for other reasons which I really don't think you all want to know about). Anyway, on to Evans. Don't believe what he told you about his suit. He was there, on a Sunday evening, with a grey pinstripe suit on, pens in his top pocket and-yes- a clipboard. He was going around collecting signatures on a 'keep education for the wealthy' petition which he and Adrian Rogers (after whom Evans was named) had dreamed up. And he was wearing a 'Plymouth Argyle- the Greens are staying Up' badge. List, it was horrible. And he *has* got childbearing hips. And they sing horrible songs about him at Exeter City away fixtures. Be warned:-) rum te tum, all in fun... tim PS thanks andy dean for the NME piece. I was very taken by the following image: " Back in the waiting room, Richard offers to appear in a few posed shots In the main church. After some cajoling, Stevie agrees to loin him, but only if he can play the banjo. " The thought of Stevie agreeing to 'loin' Richard, but only of there is banjo playing involved (which one gets to play?) pleases me greatly, for some reason. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: if you're happy and you know it clap your hands <silence>
by Alan Prior 17 Apr '98

17 Apr '98

Message text written by Rod Begbie >And wasn't that Jo Whiley thing cack last night?< NO! It was ace, i think... but maybe only because it had 4 of my top 10 sexiest people ever in it... then tosser Goldie was there to ruin it all. Bah. And that singer from the dandy warhols has *the* sexiest eyebrows in rock. fact. Message text written by Sarah >i'm going to make up a cheer for the Sinisterine chairleaders, so-called cos we get to sit on chairs, and cheer. occasionally we may stand up! and we have SPAAAARRRKLY! pom poms we get to wave about! woo!< okay, okay...i relent. i shall join your 'chairleaders' squad!! 'specially as the pom poms are of the sparkly spangly variety...Ra! (not sucking anyone's cock, though; might get feathers in me mouth...) >heehee. all this talk of Roddddddddddd, has got me thinking of Roddney from only fools and horses. thanks for that.< had forgotten about him. i was thinking more along the lines of Rodddddddddddddddddddd Hull, meself. And not forgetting Emu and Grotbags, Hehehe. Where's everybody gone? C'mon, post something, i'm bored out of my tiny mind sitting about here. First exam; 6 May. How much work have i done? None. Only 8 plays, 3 books and 20 poems to study... and the rest. Someone give me some ideas to write about for my creative writing folio which has to be sent away on wednesday. haven't written anything yet... what's the best way of commiting suicide? for myself, i mean, not the stories... going to make up another compilation tape now... love, debbie xxx. 'WHAT IS THE USE OF A BOOK', THOUGHT ALICE, 'WITHOUT PICTURES OR CONVERSATIONS?' -Alice in Wonderland ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: ink postcard
by Perfection As A Hipster 17 Apr '98

17 Apr '98

Alistair wrote ... >I'm looking out on the sea and thinking about a Revolving Paint Dream song Either "Green sea blue" or "Sun, sea, sand" ... The Revolving Paint Dream must be one of my most favourite bands ever, the _Mother Watch Me Burn_ CD is readily available for a bargain ... most probably filed under Essential Listening Pleasure. "Flowers in the sky" Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Mary Anne Hobbs, now little more than a bag of lymph, is rolled from , her studio and drained into a sink...
by Rod Begbie 17 Apr '98

17 Apr '98

On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 jane(a)cola.net wrote: > who the hell is daniel o'donnell? I ventured over to Yahoo, did a search, and uncovered: http://www.infowing.ie/donegal/daniel/Daniel.htm It is the funniest site I have seen since http://www.nickross.co.uk ! It is just *unreal*. I thought it was a piss-take at first, after the message on the opening page ("I'm delighted to welcome you to the official Daniel O'Donnell web site. I felt that when Buckingham Palace got their own Internet presence, then I needed to have one as well.") but it appears to be entirely genuine. Laugh? I nearly wet 'em. On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Alan Prior wrote: > "Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb!" - Batman Another classic movie quote from Mr/Mrs/Ms (delete as appropriate) Prior. Pass me the Bat-Shark Repellant Spray, please. "Lollypops. Come and get your lovely Lolleeepopssss" - The Kiddycatcher On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, PJMiller wrote: > [Keith] decided to cheer me up > by sending me some remarkable documentary footage of a man shoving his head > up a horse's bum. I want 500quid in unmarked bills, or I'll post the URL of the animated GIF showing a man pooing into a lady's mouth (which someone once e-mailed me as "the sickest thing I have ever seen") > Roddddddddd, good luck with your exams. Cheers. I'm halfway between suicidely depressed and denial. Life's great, innit? > By the way, does Rodddddddddd stand > for Rodddddddddddney or Roddddddddddderick? Rodddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddderick. On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Keith Watson wrote: > It has gone spookily quiet of late - the Americans in particular are > being exceptionally quiet, new people as well, you'll have to start posting > some stuff! Perhaps some introddddddddddddductions are in order. OK... Rod, 21, CompSci student, living in Edinburgh. I'm about three months away from graduating, and four months away from moving to Boston. My finals start on Tuesday, and I'm cacking meself. On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Alan Prior wrote: > Message text written by Rod Begbie > >And wasn't that Jo Whiley thing cack last night?< > > NO! It was ace, i think... but maybe only because it had 4 of my top 10 > sexiest people ever in it... then tosser Goldie was there to ruin it all. I was just pissed off because they showed that All Saints video (which is spectacularly dull, and will be *EVERYWHERE* for the next month or so) but not the new Drugstore one, which I haven't seen yet, but want to because it features Isobel Montiero who is my all-time favourite Brazillian chain-smoking granny dwarf woman. Anyone else going to their show at The Venue in a fortnight? > Bah. And that singer from the dandy warhols has *the* sexiest eyebrows in > rock. fact. If it wasn't for those bloody exams, I'd be going over to Glesga to see them on Tuesday ('specially since The 'Store are supporting). Someone said on the list that they didn't like them 'cause they sounded like a sub-standard Inspirals rip-off, whereas I like them for that exact same reason. (And am I unique in having absolutely no desire in seeing Zippy (or whatever her name is)'s boobies?) > what's the > best way of commiting suicide? for myself, i mean, not the stories... Blue Jam two weeks ago had a monologue about this. The final outcome was the best way was to tie a noose around your neck, tie the other end to a lamppost, then get into your car and drive really quickly. Of course, you need someone else there to stop the car from crashing after you die. Are there any BJ fans on this list? It's Chris Morris' latest radio outing, and is the most scary, offensive and/or bizarre "comedy" programme in the entire history of the world. It's on at 1am on a Thursday night (if you see what I mean) on Radio 1, and is truely terrifying. Some transcripts exist at http://www.koekie.org.uk/funnel/bluejam/ and I have tapes of all episodes broadcast so far, so if anyone's after a copy, give me an e-mail. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | And in the end, the love you take | Is equal to the love you make. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Hooray Hooray, it's an indie holiday
by Keith Watson 17 Apr '98

17 Apr '98

Duke! Keep 'em coming! Each one's better than the last! Indeed I had a similar experience yesterday - I couldn't make my mind up whether or not to go to Glasgow, I was totally knackered, but I'd been called a "puff" for not going, so in the end I didn't go and took a short trip to Portobello beach instead which was lovely, if exceptionally windy - and I stared out into the Firth of Forth at the lovely towns on the other side, Kircaldy, Methil etc. I also saw "Sunshine on Leith" - sorry for gratuitiously slipping that in there, I'm not just showing off my pop knowlege. It was really lovely and I had a Colour me Badd song running through my head (it was indeed "I wanna sex you up, however I don't know the name of the album, perhaps someone will know). Roddddddddddddney, I've noticed that on the buses there's an advert on the back of them advertising the arrival of Roy "Chubby" Brown in Edinburgh and advising that he's going to stick his helmet through the curtains - I thought this was particularly rude for the back of a bus - and indeed, not quite in the spirit of the B+S lyrics, so can I suggest you don't mention Roy "Chubby" Brown again on the list. It has gone spookily quiet of late - the Americans in particular are being exceptionally quiet, new people as well, you'll have to start posting some stuff! Perhaps some introddddddddddddductions are in order. I'm Keith and I'm 25, I program computers in Edinburgh for a living. We're also having a picnic in Glasgow next weekend. Meeting outside Fopp in Byres road - so if anyone wants to come along to that who hasn't already mailed, please do. Come on... you know you want to, we're not all weirdos! Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: THAT NME interview part iii
by Andrew.Dean＠bull.co.uk 17 Apr '98

17 Apr '98

three is the magic number, yes it is... FIVE MINUTES LATER, WE find ourselves sitting in the waiting room of a disused church. What's more, we're in the presence of Stuart Murdoch. Not that's he chatting to us, mind you, rather he's looking on as the rest of his group - bar the two girls, Isobel Campbell (cello) and Sarah Martin (violin) - bicker about photos. "I don't want to do it," declares the recently arrived Stevie. "I lust look stupid in photos." "I'll do it," volunteers Richard. "I'll be in it too," adds the not-actually-in-the-band Neil. "Well, I'm not going to be in it," snorts Chris Geddes indignantly, before returning to his book (The A To Z Of Synthesizer Technology). The pains of being principled are becoming more obvious by the minute. A suggestion that this is something of a fuss about nothing is met with withering glares. Stuart Murdoch insists that he's strictly here to pack his equipment into a van and storms off into a different room. Finally, a compromise is reached: the whole band (bar Stuart, naturally, who will frizzle up and die if a camera is even waved in his general direction) agree to be photographed while they're shifting their instruments out of the studio. Slowly, we all troop down to the basement. The NME photographer is forced to stand in the rain for ten minutes and take occasional snaps of people with their heads obscured by amps. With much giggling, the task is completed, and Stuart Murdoch climbs into the driver's seat and speeds off around the corner. Unsurprisingly, we don't see him again. Back in the waiting room, Richard offers to appear in a few posed shots In the main church. After some cajoling, Stevie agrees to loin him, but only if he can play the banjo. While they're gone, Chris confides that in the future the band are considering getting a friend to take one picture of them all playing live and forcing magazines to use that ("It'll show us doing what we do"). We smile wanly, and begin to wonder whether our patience will hold out indefinitely. It doesn't. When we finally get Stevie, Richard and Chris huddled around the tape recorder, we demand to know why they insist on making such a big deal out of everything. "It wasn't a big deal," declares an astonished Stevie. "You'd been told in advance that you were allowed to come up and take pictures of two of the band and that's what happened," argues Chris. "Haven't we got the right to say, 'No'?" We just have to indulge you, then? "That's up to you." Right. "Anyway," reasons Stevie, it was Radio 1 that made us, because they got sent a copy of 'Tigermilk' and played it all the time. We've been in the music press a few times, but... um, I don't know, I just feel we were championed more by the radio." This, of course, is true. Belle & Sebastian's career was given impetus by the radio, and they haven't had to rely on the press since. A fact that seems to have endowed them with a sense of moral superiority. They know that they are a rarity: a band who owe their progress almost entirely to their own efforts and to the fact that their songs perfectly mirror the tribulations of a long-neglected section of the record-buying public. Stuart Murdoch's songs are a rallying point for the disaffected. For the most part his characters are burdened with awful clothes and physical deformities, they've been bullied and spent their lives as victims and yet in these songs they're treated as heroes. And for many people that's undoubtedly their appeal. "That's fair enough," admits Stevie. "Maybe," mutters Chris (whose favourite group is Primal Scream and isn't overly keen on being portrayed as a softy). "Although, I like to think that most of the people who listen to us can see beyond 'indie' music, but I'm probably just kidding myself. "We're probably the last bastion of indie bedroom stuff to most people, I just don't see it like that. I think we've got more in common with the Muscles Shoals rhythm section (legendary R&B backing band - Ed) than, say, The Smiths, and I honestly, honestly believe that..." "The way we work we're more like Sly & The Family Stone," reveals Richard astonishingly. Except wired on felt-tip pens rather than crystal meth. But anyway... "The songs are all just about buses and school girls as far as I can make out," offers Chris. "What else do you need to know?" Well quite a lot actually.. it would be quite interesting to know why a 29-year-old man is writing in the style of a disaffected teenager for a start. unfortunately, in the absence of Stuart Murdoch, that (arguably the most interesting thing about Belle & Sebastian) is something we're not destined to find out. Instead, as our time runs out, we're treated to some jokes. "Well, that's his genius, isn't it?" quips Chris. "He's cornered that niche in the market. We sat in the pub one night, coked out of our brains and we thought, 'Who can we sell this to?'..." "Maybe we should put a parental advisory sticker on all our records," suggests Richard. "'Warning: this record might contain tweeness.' Ha ha ha." It's the last (half) sensible thing that they have to say. As they get up to leave we're left wondering what we can make of a group that write such poignant and heart-wrenching songs, but act with such incredible self-indulgence. From afar, their success looks like a triumph for principled actions, up close it looks like an accident of bad behaviour. After all, here is a band who seem to object to doing interviews and photographs simply because they can't be bothered rather than because of any radical manifesto. It's hardly punk rock. is it? Still, that's their prerogative. As for Stuart Murdoch, he claims he'll never do another interview. In light of how his band presents itself in his absence, may we suggest he thinks again? Grrrr andy next, that candy factory interview... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: THAT NME interview part ii
by Andrew.Dean＠bull.co.uk 17 Apr '98

17 Apr '98

that looked ok. second part then. BELLE & SEBASTIAN ARE both busy and prone to indecision As such, when we pull up in front of the Grosvenor Cafe in Glasgow's West End (the apocryphal starting point for the band, and, oh yes, Del Amitri's local), we can't be sure who will be there. One thing's for certain, it won't be guitarist Stevie Jackson. We've just seen him marching oft in the opposite direction. Nor will it be the man responsible for all their songs to date bar one. Stuart Murdoch has now officially stopped doing interviews altogether, lest he overshadows the rest of the band. These days, the talking is done by whoever feels like it (which normally isn't anyone, but today consists of drummer Richard Colburn and bassist Stuart David). Or at least, that's the idea. Actually, we only get both for about 30 seconds. Having posed for a few photos (which won't come out because this is a particularly dingy cafe'), Richard hurries oft to check his car, which is parked on a double yellow line. This leaves us with Stuart, his friend. and not much time. The friend is Neil Robertson; sometime manager, aspiring bassist and provider of moral support in the face of tricky questioning. As soon as we reach the table, he turns his tape recorder on. Or rather, he tries to. Unfortunately, his batteries are dead, so his plan for keeping a thorough check on NME fizzles out disappointingly. Stuart, meanwhile, has already started complaining. "We don't ask to be interviewed," he rambles irritably. "I don't know if our press officer goes looking for them, but we certainly don't ask him to. We're not out to get that sort of publicity. "Having said that, I don't mind having my picture taken, it's just I don't want to go out of my way. I've got a lot of things to do this afternoon, I've got some important shopping to do. I don't want to spend any more time on band duties for a couple of weeks." Stuart falls silent and Neil flashes him a reassuring glance: it'll be OK. It's worth rioting that we haven't actually asked a question yet. Fearful of what will happen if we do, we politely enquire as to why they object so much to interviews. "Everyone in the band likes a good interview," smiles Stuart, "but there are so many more bad ones than good ones, we all got fed up with doing them." Is that why Stuart (Murdoch) Stopped talking to the press? "No, I think he just stopped because of pressure from some people in the band who didn't like him getting all the attention. I personally think he should fake more responsibility for his creative role. The rest of us only know how the band operates, why we do it and what our own input is, only he knows what he's actually trying to say in his songs and what he does it for." The utter pointlessness of this conversation flashes briefly before us. Fortunately, with the time at 2.30pm, and with only another three-and-a-half hours to go until the shops close for the day, Stuart David makes his apologies and disappears out of the door in search of his important shopping. He is immediately replaced by the ever genial Richard who, having avoided a possible traffic violation, now wishes to take us to a nearby studio to meet up with the rest of the band, some 0 whom may even be in the mood for light conversation. There is even talk of "photographic opportunities"... third and final part in two shakes of a lamb's tail andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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