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Sinister: tape tree #3 (gasp!)
by Erin Lewis 13 Jul '98

13 Jul '98

OK kids, I think there's gonna be a third tape tree. The lovely Honey suggested (as did Mick Mc20) that we should have a U.S. tape trade, a U.K. trade, and a special worldwide trade that could include anyone from any country. The two domestic-only trades will still have two-week swap deadlines, but the worldwide one could have an extended deadline, say, monthly. I think it's a splendid idea, so I'm going to organize the trades as such. So, with this in mind, IF YOU WANT TO BE IN ON TWO TAPE CIRCLES, MAKE TWO TAPES!!!! sorry to use the caps lock, but i know some of you like to skim your list posts, heh heh... more details later. -ms. bossy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: 3 strings
by brad 13 Jul '98

13 Jul '98

you all don't even know me. and you shouldn't take anything i say as gospel, because tastes vary. and i know i talk a lot of rubbage, but the best movie in the whole fucking world is "something about mary". i just saw a sneak preview, and i can sum it up in one sentence: "the very first scene is jonathan richman siting in a tree playing a song" and he's in it more than that. he plays a pivotal role in the storyline. he breaks in every now and again singing a song about what's happening. yes, fred, THAT jonathan richman. the one and only. and it's funny. so fucking funny. not leslie nielsen slapstick funny, but funny. i'm not talking funny. i mean shitting hilarious. i don't think i've ever sent an email with so many curse words. and something happens to ol' jonathan in the end that will have you rolling. so do yourselves a favor and go see it when it opens up. putting a sock in it, brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: T In The Park - Early Review
by Rod Begbie 13 Jul '98

13 Jul '98

Well, here's my story of what I got up to at T in The Park. Day One - Me, my sister Ali, and her friend Fiona. ------- Arrived at a leisurely hour on Saturday, and had a bit of a wander about to see what was where, and that. Nice day -- not *too* hot, but pleasantly warm nonetheless. Walked into the NME tent in time to catch the end of THE YOUNG OFFENDERS, who were alrightish, although the sound was cack and you couldn't actually hear any of the vocals. But they did have two female backing singers dancing away in the background, who were fun to watch. Popped into the Virgin Tea-Tent and had a cup of blackcurrant tea, whilst checking my Hotmail account on their 'net link, before setting up the default home page to point to my sister's website (http://hg4.com/bings/) Went back into the NME tent to catch a bit of THEAUDIENCE, who were pretty dire, but the lead singer's a little bit nice, albeit a right stuck-up prissy madam. Group of pissed blokes (well, it was 1:15pm by this stage) have a rousing singsong of "Get yer tits out", before shouting the bizarre heckle "Shake your shamis!" at the bemused girl. Have a quick game of Downfall in the Double Six tent, before we split up - Ali + Fi go to see Travis on the Main Stage, while I go to see RIALTO in the tent. And they were fucking marvellous. Rod's Rules For Music #1: The more drums the better. And with two drumkits, Rialto could hardly lose. I'm definitely buying the album when it comes out tomorrow. Have an icecream, then watch ULTRASOUND. When the band walk onstage, no-one notices. They don't look like rockstars - more like roadies. Then the enormous Tiny walks on, takes a photo of the crowd and everyone cheers. Though Tiny gets all the attention in reviews and interviews, the real stars of the band are the guitarist, who leaps around like the rock'n'roll star he so obviously wants to be, and Vanessa, the bassist, whose harmonies are what actually raise the songs from being completely dreary, to slightly uplifting. After they've done all their singles, I leave to have a look in the "Cafe Club" tent, where Alan Parker - Urban Warrior is scheduled. But first we have to endure "comediennes" Viv'n'Jill, who I've seen dying on their arse in Christies Pub in Edinburgh more times than I care to remember, try to warm up the audience. To no avail. Everyone's too busy watching the pissed bloke at the front who's making his own entertainment by having a one-man Mexican wave. Alan Parker doesn't fair much better - crowd doesn't respond much to him, he stumbles over his jokes (which haven't changed much since I last saw him 4 years ago) to "deflect" heckles, and the pissed bloke in the front tries to enter into an animated debate (which I think was actually intended as support) with him, until security come to the rescue. The biggest laugh was for some random guy who walks across in front of the stage, and drops the hood on his jumper to reveal a big plastic Elvis "wig". I leave at this point to meet up with Ali + Fi. Meet Ali who says that Fi is at the very front of the crowd at the Main Stage, so we elbow our way through the crowd (surprisingly easy) to the strains of SPACE. Now, I'm not much of a fan of Space on record, but they weren't all that bad live. I caught the last half-hour of their set, which meant I got quite a few songs I knew, including the finale when Cerys out of Catatonia came on to do the duet. So then we stand around for half an hour, waiting for ROBBIE WILLIAMS, while I get dogs abuse from a group of pissed women because I am a) 6ft tall b) A bloke and c) In front of them for Robbie. I ignore them. Now, if you took the BBC's Light Entertainment department, and drained every last ounce of entertainment out of every last one of their staff, you would not even get close to the amount of entertainment value crammed into Robbie Williams. He sings, he dances, he does comedy poses, he tells jokes, he hands his backstage pass to a member of the audience. And, quite frankly, he kicks botty. Totally excellent, even if I was spending most of the time trying to help the teenage girls who'd been crushed over the barrier to safety. Time for a change of pace, so I went off to see SPIRITUALISED. And a complete mind-fuck that was. Most songs can have a quiet bit and a loud bit, a fast bit and a slow bit. But only Spiritualised play all these parts at the same time. Somehow, the music makes it hard to keep my eyes open. I stand, swaying, eyes shut, taking in every beat. And all I'd consumed was a couple of pints of Tennents! Sheer class. I don't notice time going by - after 45 minutes, I glance at my watch and realise that I should be meeting the girls now! Rush across the park to meet up with Ali + Fi again, and watch the start of THE PRODIGY on the main stage. Who were absolutely shite, in my considered opinion. The music sounded *exactly* the same as it does on record, the only difference being that the lyrics were being shouted louder, and with more swearing. It was like a karaoke session in a tourettes ward. So we headed off to catch the last half of ASH, and boy am I glad we did. The tent was half empty, but the music was great. All the hits, a couple of new ones, and I got to jump around like a loon in a relatively open space. The first time I saw Ash was at TitP'95, the day before 'Girl From Mars' got into the Top 10. And they've come light years from there. A great end to the night. (Oh, and I spotted my favourite T-shirt of the weekend. Front: CELINE DION... Back: SUCKS FARTS OUT OF DEAD CATS) So home, to a hot shower and a warm bed. Hurrah! Day Two - Me, Ali + Fi, plus Kim and Helen, two more of Ali's chums ------- (NB: Miscreants: It's Kim!) Waken to the sound of rain. Bugger. It's pissing it down outside. Rake around house to try and find waterproof clothing. Arrive, and the place is muddy. OK, so people who went to Glastonbury would look and scoff, but still a pain. Daintily traipse through the carpark, trying to avoid getting our feet too mucky. Walk through the gate, and admit defeat. We're going to get muddy. When we get in, THE SUPERNATURALS, who Ali really likes, are onstage, so we head up for them. They're alright, I suppose, but not really my cup of tea. It's like they've listened to Digsy's Dinner on the Oasis album, and decided to record a load of songs based around that one idea. But they're ideal festival fodder - poppy and jump-aroundy. Their biggest cheer, however, comes when they announce that Chumbawamba have pulled out. We all stand in the Radio 1 tent for a while, trying to warm up a bit, before me, Kim + Helen go to watch STEREOPHONICS, who were surprisingly good, I thought. I'd never really bothered trying their singles, putting them down as JustAnotherIndieGuitarBand, but they really were extremely enjoyable live. Further investigation of ther recorded material is called for. The ladies all decide to watch Finley Quaye (someone who Fi would later spray with mud), but I consider him to be a dickhead of epic proportions, so visited the Radio 1 tent once more for uk.misc favourites, GOMEZ. Who were wonderful. 3 lead vocalists, 4 guitarists, 2 bassists, 2 drummers and a keyboardist - and there's only 6 people on stage. ScaryVocalsMan was incredible, and the tunes were ace - especially a much-speeded-up version of 78 Stone Wobble which was fantastic, and the final Whipping Picadilly which sounded like pure pop music on stage. I attempt to fulfill my promise that I would watch half of Natalie Imbruglia's set, but a dangerously over-crowded tent (5% fans of her music, 94% blokes who want to see her tits, 1% people just desparate to get out of the rain) means that we just leg it across to catch GARBAGE. For the first few songs that we saw, they didn't seem terribly on-form. While their cover of Big Star's Thirteen is very lovely as a B-side, when you're stood in a wet field, covered in mud, you don't really want to hear a twee tale about young love. But Garbage deliver after all, with a superb version of Stupid Girl, and many other singles, culminating in a somewhat appropriate Only Happy When It Rains. At which point, it stopped raining. Huzzah! My Stone Roses obsession causes me to force Ali + Fi to follow me to watch IAN BROWN, but he proves to be disappointing. But better than The Seahorses, so that's alright! Take a gander in the other tent at CORNERSHOP who I thought were quite good (in a kind of droney stoned way), but the girls thought was pish. So we left. Finally, PULP on the main stage. Playing a 6-year-old single (Do You Remember The First Time) as your second song may seem a strange idea, but it got the crowd in the appropriate mood to enjoy whatever he threw at them - whether a Number One Hit Single, or a track of their latest "unpopular" album. The guy is a star, pure and simple. And the mad crowd singalong of the finale was a fitting end to the weekend. So I'm now sat here at 1:30am, thoroughly de-mudded, with a cup of hot chocolate, and can look back and say it was faboo. Just thank God I wasn't camping. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands. <CLAP> <CLAP> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: woods
by milla-isobel gregor 12 Jul '98

12 Jul '98

Is Mick mcmick's (happy bd by the wway) knock on wood comment a sly reference to the wonderful troutfishing in america by brautigan? anyone out there like Lamb? Hellooo nyc peeps, lessavapicanickasssoon. wweekend of 25th/6th? ony abjections? write to me if you can makethis date, milla-isobel. xx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: another tape tree idea...
by Erin Lewis 12 Jul '98

12 Jul '98

Hey kids! A few more questions have been asked, so I've decided to make another post. Many people have e-mailed me with requests to be in on the Great Tape Trade. It has occurred to me, through these notes, that many people have been alienated. One list member, from Germany, wants to be in on the UK trade. So do some Americans, and I haven't figured out how to make this work yet. (Any ideas? Anyone?) Also what about the listees from Australia (my home away from home)? If anyone wants to be involved, but I have excluded them for whatever reason, please let me know! Also, I forgot to add that in the last tape trade, significant others and best-friend types who were also fans of the band (but not list members) were allowed to participate. I think this is a great idea, because I know some excellent tape mixers who don't have internet access. If you know such a person, you can e-mail me their address, too. Just state that they are a friend and not a list member, so I know. (If list members think this is a bad suggestion, please say so!) List members who have notified me so far: Jillian, Damon Seils, Allyson Wonderland, Nick Marino, Matt Lawrence, Brad Whiddon, Stuart Gardiner, Andre Vieira, Rob B, Joss Moorkens, and Northy (I think). If you do not see your name on this list, then send me an e-mail. If you are reading this for the first time and don't know what is going on, check out digest #242. -Erin ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Mojave 3
by Steve Genge 12 Jul '98

12 Jul '98

> mojave 3, which is neil and rachel's new band, is also fantastic. i have > their album, 'ask me tomorrow', which is truly lovely and wonderfully laid > back in a country kind of way, but i STILL haven't heard their new single. > is it any good? i saw them support for luna at the garage a couple of > years ago, and they were wonderful, as were luna. that has to be one of my > favourite gigs ever. The new single, which was meant as a kinda gentle reintroduction to the band (so gentle no-one's noticed!) is a move away from the country influences on the first album to an almost folk edge, obviously been listening to Nick Drake or maybe even a certain bunch of Glasgow Popsters? One thing is for sure two of the four songs feature the trumpet prowess of Mick "the lips" Cook as an added inducement to seek it out. steve "Pain and beauty, our constant bedfellows" Sabine Strohem Red Roses For Me Fanzine & Records For Sale http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/9043/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: List crushes
by Mark Casarotto 12 Jul '98

12 Jul '98

While I'm sure all those who read my postings admire and respect me, none of you have yet made clear any more, shall we say, fundametal feelings - I'm waiting to hear from you... You don't count, Elfie. Cos you have the nose of a ninety-year-old French peasant after a lifetime of antifreeze and bad gruyere. The only crush I have is on little Nickie Dastoor - I only wanted to duff him up as an excuse to feel his lithe young form. So make David Kitchen a very happy man - everyone knows that the list should be no more than a dating agency, so it's up to you all to stop pretending you're interested in no-mark indie bands and get horrrny... p.s. this posting is tongue in cheek - or at least that's what I'm hoping (rrrrrrr, ladeez) Biondino el studmuffin ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . East Coast USA and Canada 31/08 - 4/11, details at . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: lyrics quiz! & other stuff
by rob b 12 Jul '98

12 Jul '98

petula wrote: > At 12:40 AM 7/12/1998 -0400, The Trainspotter wrote: > > > >'As the sun hits, she'll be waiting > >With her cool things and her heaven > >Hey hey lover you still burn me > >You're a song yeah, hey hey' > > > > Erp, I'm showing my shoegazing roots by admitting to this-- but it's > Slowdive. And the last line is "You're a sun yeah, etc.". I must admit, I > remember how lovely it sounded when I saw them at the Ontario Place Forum > (before the stupid Molson Amphitheatre took its place, and incidentally the > Spice Girls played there last night!), it's outdoors on the lake's edge and > it was gorgeous. > slowdive, yes, a truly wonderful band... well i thought so anyway. it's such a shame that those shoegazing bands (slowdive, telescopes, ride etc) are scorned upon by almost everyone these days. one of the first albums i bought was 'just for a day' by slowdive, and it's really really lovely - admittedly their final album, 'pygmalion' was very strange, but it had some truly gorgeous moments on it as well. i admit that the lyrics above look a bit lame, but when sung they sound wonderful - plus you can't really hear the words properly, as with most of their songs. not that i'm saying that's necessarily a good thing, but if the lyrics are dire it's sometimes a good idea. i'd be the first to admit that lyrics are important, and am often content with just reading the lyrics to a song rather than listening to it, but some bands 'work' really well even though you can't make out a single word (the cocteau twins for example). anyway, that song is called 'when the sun hits' and it's on 'souvlaki', which is a really nice album, with some gorgeously sad and mellow songs like 'altogether', 'dagger', and 'here she comes' on. mojave 3, which is neil and rachel's new band, is also fantastic. i have their album, 'ask me tomorrow', which is truly lovely and wonderfully laid back in a country kind of way, but i STILL haven't heard their new single. is it any good? i saw them support for luna at the garage a couple of years ago, and they were wonderful, as were luna. that has to be one of my favourite gigs ever. i used to be on the slowdive and mojave 3 mailing list, but they weren't nearly as nice as you lot :) so i got bored and unsubscribed... ah well, that's enough irrelevant shoegazing banter for one day bye bye rob xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: lyrics quiz! & other stuff
by petula 12 Jul '98

12 Jul '98

At 12:40 AM 7/12/1998 -0400, The Trainspotter wrote: > >ok, so someone who is a friend of a friend just e-mailed me and said - I >heard you listen to a lot of brit shtuff - guess these lot - <snip> >'As the sun hits, she'll be waiting >With her cool things and her heaven >Hey hey lover you still burn me >You're a song yeah, hey hey' > Erp, I'm showing my shoegazing roots by admitting to this-- but it's Slowdive. And the last line is "You're a sun yeah, etc.". I must admit, I remember how lovely it sounded when I saw them at the Ontario Place Forum (before the stupid Molson Amphitheatre took its place, and incidentally the Spice Girls played there last night!), it's outdoors on the lake's edge and it was gorgeous. Mark wrote: >So make David Kitchen a very happy man - everyone knows that the list should be >no more than a dating agency, so it's up to you all to stop pretending you're >interested in no-mark indie bands and get horrrny... For those truly serious about ending those lonesome Friday nights, you must consider coming on #sinister. Just think--no need for that tiresome toilette routine. You could be sitting in front of your pooter dressed in nothing but a Color Me Badd t-shirt and no one would know! All it takes it a bit of your natural born wit and nimble fingers, and you'll find loads of Sinisterines just waiting to get saucy. Why, just the other night the subject line was "There's a party in Keith's pants and you're all invited". Phwoooaar! Espadrille wrote: >so, everybody. would a zombies compilation be worth 7-99 of my money. the >only song i know at the moment is time of the season, and that's pretty >monstrously good, with its chook -aaah... bit. I've noted the few suggestions so far, and they were all good. I'd say the recent box set put out by Big Beat is the best value though. For roughly $90 Canadian you get 4 discs, with basically everything they've ever recorded, including those bonus tracks on the German version of Odyssey & Oracle, as well as BBC sessions and outtakes. The highlights for me include a full band version of "The Way I Feel Inside" (which is normally a capella) and their dreamy, gorgeous version of "The Look Of Love". And the liner notes are pure class-- they got the band together to give a 90's perspective on every song. Plus, in the back page is an address where you can write away for a free Zombies fanzine which is packed with real clippings and fan letters from the Philippines from the 60's! Umm, yes, I do love the Zombies. Lastly, I would just like to say a few words about some of the recent list brouhahas which some of you may or may not be aware of. I think it would be sound if everyone took what each other was saying with a grain of salt. We have to remember that typing is a very literal format. No jovial facial expressions or hand gesticulations to give perspective. I say this because a listee has been quite upset by having their words twisted around, by someone who seems to find it impossible to be reasonable. Of course, if someone from here writes you and says "your momma wears army boots", then that's another matter. You should email Honey at once and he will dispatch Super Splatt to the rescue. Oh, and Peter Miller's Kraftwerk line was brilliant. love, elisabeth xoxo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . East Coast USA and Canada 31/08 - 4/11, details at . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Tape Trees/My Last day as a teenager
by HoleRole＠aol.com 12 Jul '98

12 Jul '98

I'd like to wish Mick a very happy birthday! -Aaron p.s. this may look like a waste of space on the list but bear in mind that it's a nice gesture and that it's nice to receive birthday greetings (even when they're from perfect strangers). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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