September 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: What came first - L!VE TV or P!O!P! ?
by Nick Dastoor 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:00:09 +0100 (BST) From: Honey <honey(a)Majordomo.net> Subject: Sinister: stuart murdoch the insect hater >I have to report, hastily, on the Is A Cricket Not A Pear? video, >which as Katrina tastily told us UK people, was on Alternative Nation >on MTV on Tuesday night. I'm surprised noone else mentioned it, but >I completely forgot I'd taped it too, and did a little shuffle with >the remote control last night. I too saw the video for Isn't Cricket just for Squares, but am ashamed to admit I missed the Jacques Cousteau opening. Little was I to know it would be the first song of the night, so I daredevilishly thought I could catch the end of Pocket Topless Darts on L!VE TV and then switch over in time. After flicking, imagine my shock when a channel integrity fault on the television led to an apparent scene of a bare breasted Chris Geddes missing double top completely and hitting Sarah on the bottom. I assumed this was why she was hiding up a tree for the rest of the video whilst Mick rushed to defend her honour on the ramparts. It was a lot of fun. Nice to see Isobel's big expensive lion again, too. My friends that I went to Shepherd's Bush with thought she seemed a bit mean and moody, but I told them it was a nervous reaction and that she was just a big baby. The lion should clinch the argument. Mike Reid wrote: >I think they're already at the point where they will be remembered for a long time, but I don't > really see them getting huge. Although I do think they'll get bigger > than any of us think they will. Reid - how can you think they will get bigger than you think they will? That's crazeee talk. Nick xxx _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Going on about how great everybody is
by Mark Casarotto 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

Me being selfish again, but... To all the people going to the NY picnic - since I'm going to be coming to see you all in 45 days, why not go to my website, print out the rather unflattering and porky photo of me, and sit it beside you as you picnic in East River Park..perhaps I can go in goal when the soccer kicks off - no-one else ever seems to want to... Please, please don't take this the wrong way, but being on the list has pretty much revolutionised my bigoted, unfair, but at least partially justified view of Americans. Over here in dear ol' Blighty, we don't always get to see your best sides (viz the tourists, for a start), and there's a fair amount of resentment and dislike in some quarters - you should have seen the joy in the pub when Iran beat you in the World Cup... ;-) But it's been eye-opening to hear from so many people who've blown my prejudices out of the water. Particularly, those over the water don't seem to be nearly as preoccupied as us with what's cool, what's the right way to behave etc. Maybe all that shit's rife with you too, but it doesn't seem to come through in your postings, which is what matters from this point of view. So basically, I hope I don't sound too sycophantic, but thanks for the revelation, which in turn makes me wonder how guilty I am of all of the above. I can't wait to meet many of you in New York City - I know I'll be well looked after... If You're Feeling Sinister is best album by Belle and Sebastian. Sorry to post twice in a day - and apologies for the lack of B&S (yet!) on my website... Mark xxx p.s. Calling Ms Schaffenberger...?donde esta usted?... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Debate
by rap101 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

Anyone else adore A Summer Wasting? Re. one of the current topics of debate: IF b&s are suddenly cool and getting chart or whatever, and people buy their records to boost their indie cred, then so what? These people will either grow to genuinely like them (and I defy most people not to) or they will leave them festering at the back of their CD collection, which does no harm to the band as they've got a record sale out of it, and no harm to the fans. There are many reasons to be into a band, but the thing that will always keep at least some people interested throughout the ups and downs of popularity is the MUSIC. If you love the music, nothing else matters. I don't think I would even notice if b&s had a number one single, except that I'd get to hear it a lot on the radio. And hurrah for that. Luv Archel x ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101(a)york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: hard on for Jesus
by Julien Boeldieu 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

Hello everyone :) Speaking of hallucinations... Am I crazy or it's a sheep that you can hear after 3 minutes and 51 seconds of "Sleep the clock around" ? Or a cow ? a pig (sooooooo... pigs would be able to sing both "Staying alive" and "Sleep the clock around") ? a horse ? an elephant ? Is it the hidden 9th member of Belle and Sebastian ? Kerry, you're right, "Simple things" is brilliant. It remind me of "Le pastie de la bourgeoisie" -- but not so majestic. By the way, could somebody tell me what is Catcher in the rye mentioned in this song ? I guess it's a book, but I'm not sure. I think I found the chord for "The boy with the arab strap" : G C D. I'm not sure, but that works on my keyboard. Tell me if you don't agree. Wow ! Only three simple chords for such a great song... That's my definition for the word "genius". Byebye, Julien == "Je ne remets jamais � demain ce que je peux faire le surlendemain" ** Alphonse Allais ** _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: group get together
by Tim Groves 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

soul weekends are quite sad affairs - the music is awful and bears no resemblance to B&S - how about meeting at a scootering weekend with REAL (northern) soul. I think we should all meet up at a tacky, westworld like Butlins. Bognor Regis is like another planet tim gmckay(a)roisin.ayo.dec.com on 18/09/98 11:07:00 To: sinister(a)majordomo.net cc: (bcc: Tim Groves/Interfocus) Subject: Sinister: group get together Date: Fri, Sep 18, 1998 11:07 AM Subject: Sinister: group get together just thought i'd put in my 2 cents about the planned get together. while watching the 'soul night' thingy on BBC2 the other week, there was a video diary about a soul weekend which takes place somewhere in england (help me someone if anyone saw this - was it caister?). anyway, all these young mad people got together in this caravan park and spent the weekend drinking, dancing and having fun. i thought this would be a great idea for a list get together coz we would all have accommodation and could plan whatever we wanted. don't think i've got the time to organise something like that but maybe someone has..? on the record shop debate, so desperate was i for a copy of twattybus that i went to kilmarnock (the nearest place to where i live) and the only indie shop had sold out of their 9.99 copies (this was on the tuesday) so i had to grudginly give hmv 12.49 for a copy coz i couldn'y wait any longer. hope you can forgive me for this, when i live in glasgow, i always try to get my stuff in fopp or missing coz i think they deserve my money more. this is more than i've written in the past year!!! gillian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------- Received: from envy.ph.ED.AC.uk by polson.fabrik.com with SMTP (Fabrik F07.3-000) id SINN.3856626(a)polson.fabrik.com ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:16:26 +0100 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA01677; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:12:45 +0100 Received: by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:12:40 +0100 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01654 for sinister-outgoing; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:12:32 +0100 Received: from ns1.digital.fr (ns1.digital.fr [193.56.15.3]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA01650 for <sinister(a)majordomo.net>; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:12:26 +0100 Received: from mail.vbo.dec.com (eur-rmc.vbo.dec.com [16.36.208.33]) by ns1.digital.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24897 for <sinister(a)majordomo.net>; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:12:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from roisin.ayo.dec.com (roisin.ayo.dec.com [16.182.0.38]) by mail.vbo.dec.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01910 for <sinister(a)majordomo.net>; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:11:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from edzell.ayo.dec.com by roisin.ayo.dec.com (5.65v4.0/1.1.10.5/01Apr97-0932AM) id AA06449; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:11:55 +0100 Message-Id: <360230FE.3814(a)roisin.ayo.dec.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:07:58 +0100 From: Gillian McKay <gmckay(a)roisin.ayo.dec.com> Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: B&S Mailing List <sinister(a)majordomo.net> Subject: Sinister: group get together Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: Gillian McKay <gmckay(a)roisin.ayo.dec.com> X-List: Sinister ---------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Monica Queen
by Jonathan Caryl 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

Hi all, This is one of those 'whatever happened to' questions: whatever happened to Thrum? I guess we all know that Monica Queen (on lazy line painter jane) used to be in the rather fine Thrum. They had just one album 'Rifferama', but the last time I saw them play the Edinburgh Venue (I think it was late '96) she said that they had another album recorded, and were just trying to sort out legal hastles with their record company to get it released. Did it ever see the light of day; if so, where can I buy it, if not, why not? Jonathan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: group get together
by Gillian McKay 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

just thought i'd put in my 2 cents about the planned get together. while watching the 'soul night' thingy on BBC2 the other week, there was a video diary about a soul weekend which takes place somewhere in england (help me someone if anyone saw this - was it caister?). anyway, all these young mad people got together in this caravan park and spent the weekend drinking, dancing and having fun. i thought this would be a great idea for a list get together coz we would all have accommodation and could plan whatever we wanted. don't think i've got the time to organise something like that but maybe someone has..? on the record shop debate, so desperate was i for a copy of twattybus that i went to kilmarnock (the nearest place to where i live) and the only indie shop had sold out of their 9.99 copies (this was on the tuesday) so i had to grudginly give hmv 12.49 for a copy coz i couldn'y wait any longer. hope you can forgive me for this, when i live in glasgow, i always try to get my stuff in fopp or missing coz i think they deserve my money more. this is more than i've written in the past year!!! gillian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: hurried criticism
by Massimiliano Bernardini 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

Hi sinisters, reading e-mails in this week I was astonished at frequently judgments about TBWAS, I think saying -i don't like this song- after only 3-4 days of listening is not possible. i don't want to say B&S always hit the center (although this is true according to me), but i say TBWAS is more difficult than other ones, it isn't immediate and so you've to give it the time to wrap up your mind. then it will filter through the pores of your skin and you'll be totally possessed. this is what happened me. cheers, Passi. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: B&S PEZ MACHINES
by Michael 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

>BTW, although I would never buy any music from Woolies they are the best >sourse I've found of Pez, in the UK - so all credit to them for that ;) > You should be supporting the small, independent Pez stores. These Mom 'n' Pop stores care about the pez, and are driven by enthusiasm not money. This means they can stock alternative pez that the big chains, such as Woolies, wouldn't touch for fear of making a loss. Also, in the indy stores you can find the early pez, which were much better than the new stuff... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Saucy Prize Post
by PJMiller 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

First of all, Hastings is the secondhand book capital of Britain. I got two original Skinhead books and my prized copy of Slade in Flame in Hastings. I gave the Skinhead ones away because they were unpleasantly racist (as opposed to pleasantly racist), but I've still got the Slade one - "They're still warm, she must be around here somewhere!" said Noddy. Secondly, John Peel just opened his World Service programme with "a melancholy moment from Belle and Sebastian", namely "Brill Brill Brilliant Career". Hurrah for Mister Peel! Thirdly, I recently won the right to be saucy and irrelevant without any grumbling form Honey aka Honey (there are new people on the list). Here goes: The curiously attractive cabin boy Christopher Alexander Leonard informs us that Trousers has got a semi-stiffy at about ear height, but he leaves it at that. "Semi-stiify" is such a vague expression, Christopher, can't you be more specific? For example, what is the semi-stiffy's ratio of flaccidity/stiffiness? 50:50? 40:60? 25:75? In simpler, non-scientific terms, is it sticking up a bit or is it dangling down but not completely? What's the angle of the dangle? Also, is it on the way up, or is it on the way back down again? Or is it just hovering inconclusively, a bit like a water divining rod? Should that be "dividing"? Everywhere I go, the kids want to know. Give us the low down on Trousers' tumescence. I'm sure this kind of thing doesn't go on in Stevenage. End of sauce. last night, my wife and I had a lengthy conversation about matters B&S list, such as record shops and bands getting bigger (so to speak) and the concept of real fans. I won't bore you with the details, but I was particularly amused by one phrase that cropped up in the course of our debate: Duke Holliday. Well, I thought it was funny. Also, Arantxa would like to know the title of an old Status Quo song that begins with the line "never had a woman" or "never hurt a woman". Can anyone help? There, that's enough of my domestic difficulties. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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