November 1999 - Sinister

Sinister: the construction of reality
by zoe charaktinou 23 Nov '99

23 Nov '99

Hmmm....I don't now but the past few days I write all the time to our beloved list.I think the room I spend most of my time is the computer room.What a life! I've been working in here since 4:30pm and I'm starving and I'm bored. I'm writing an essay on the construction of reality in the mass media.Cool,huh?...NO!I'M BORED! Any suggestions,anyone?DO WE HAVE A JOURNALIST IN THE CROWD,PLEASE? Anyways,blop,blop... Sometimes I read about things on the list that people have said and when I read previous messages I can't seem to find anything.Is there a chat or sth. or is it the fact that some of you people see each other? I was just wandering 'cause I'm a curious little girl!I wish I could enter a chat,but,that's how it works if you don't own a PC. To all the tape tree participants: Good luck and it'll be as funny as it sounds! Do you know how good the Stereophonics are for studying?I was reading on manufacture consent,screaming at the same time "i'm just looooooooooooooooooooooking,I'm not buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuying!",and still wasn't distracted.Hmm... OK!I can hear you all begging me to stop writing nonsense so I'll relief you from my presence.Until next time,BYE!BYE!HAPPY PEOPLE!(who's happy?) Zoe Blop Blop ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: knitting challenges, enid blyton, owls and B&S
by JENOWL22＠aol.com 23 Nov '99

23 Nov '99

Hello all and sundry! Last night I was in my attic, and all of a sudden, a bag fell on me. "What can this be?" I thought as I sat rubbing my head. I opened the bag, and out popped, not a mad creature, or even a poetry parrot, but, to my surprise, the entire St. Clares series by Enid Blyton. "Hello they said, you haven't read us since you were six, please read us." And the littlest one was crying, so I said, "All right, all right." and promised I'd read them all. And to my delight, they were all very nice. So tonight I might go up to the attic and see if anything else falls on me. Does anyone watch the "Famous Five" programmes on ITV? Apparently I look like George. I should never have got my hair cut. I've accepted Archel's challenge to knit. Yay! An incentive to finish it! I bought a fluffy cuddly toy owl. It has little red earmuffs and a tartan scarf. It's very nice to snuggle in bed with. Yesterday, in English, we had to deliver a talk, with only five minutes to prepare. So I got up and mumbled something about how amazing B&S were, and how the lyrics were dead profound, and got a real slagging afterwards. Still, I got a 1, so maybe my english teacher is a closet B&S fan. Also, I think the world would be a much nicer place if everyone owned at least one belle and sebastian or even gentle waves record, and played it twice daily. Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: StuD in print
by David Moore 23 Nov '99

23 Nov '99

Gentle Readers, Nick D's transcribed Grauniad article mentioned the "Oral" compliation twice, which reminded me that half a year ago Stuart David told me about the song Piano Window Piano: "The story from the song is going to be in a collection of poetry and stories released by Hodder&SToughton called Oral. Along with poems and stories by Nick Cave and Jarvis and Shane McGowan." Does anyone have a copy of this book, & if so, does anything by our Stuart D feature in it? Or was he lost in the change of publisher? If he *did* stop touring with B&S, how would we tell? Seems to me they have to be forced onto the road at gunpoint anyway. Neil could easily play his bass parts for half a dozen gigs a year, & Stuart could still happily contribute in the studio, possibly from a sandbox. The ski mask trick was just laying the foundations for various cunning disguises. Re-watched the Belle and Sebastian bit on ALotOfIts Pooh & noticed the director had a fondness for taking Isobel from the rear - how very Sinister. Talking of which, many moons ago Michele claimed that our Miss Honey had penises on the brain. Which must be why everyone loves Paul for his mind :) Bye, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: If you ain't an American Idlewild fan, delete this message
by Josh Baze 23 Nov '99

23 Nov '99

Scotland's Idlewild Embarks On First American Tour Raucous Scotland punksters turned noisy, post-Britpop poster boys Idlewild are set to embark on their first ever U.S. tour despite garnering rave reviews in the U.K. for the past three years. The band will support Verbena in Milwaukee on Monday (Nov. 22) and hit few select East Coast cities through Dec. 1 in Washington, D.C. Singer Roddy Woomble just wants to make it off the stage in one piece. "As long as people don't throw anything at us, it'll be fine," he says. "I once got hit in the stomach with a full can of Bud. It felt like I'd been punched." Idlewild is touring in support of the recently-released and quite good Hope Is Important (Odeon/Capitol), now a year-old album in the U.K. Idlewild has only previously played one gig in America, at the 1998 CMJ Music Marathon. "It was a complete disaster to be honest," says Woomble. "We were supposed to be playing for Americans and it ended up being a bunch of people from Scotland!" Meanwhile, Idlewild has also already written 16 songs for its next effort, three of which have been recorded in America. There are also plans in the works to bring that band back to the States for a more expansive tour in the new year. Here is Idlewild's upcoming tour dates: * Nov. 22, Milwaukee, Cactus Club * Nov. 23, Minneapolis, 400 Bar * Nov. 24, Chicago, Lounge Ax * Nov. 29, New York, Mercury Lounge * Nov. 30, Boston, Middle East * Dec. 1, Washington, D.C., The Garage +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: umm...a bit all over the place actually...
by rachel tucker 23 Nov '99

23 Nov '99

hey everyone! i am feeling very happy today. a friend of mine from when i was very little and living in cornwall e-mailed me for the first time in over two years today. i was so surprised i nearly fell of my seat and headbutted the computer. i mailed her back and then she replied and then i wrote.... and well, i've now spent most of the day on my sitting in front of this screen typing away. it's been great! anyway, the point is: get in touch with old mates cos it's really lovely. and much better than writing essays on the victorian poor laws in britain. oh yes. which, as some of you may suspect is also why i'm posting, twice in a month god damn. blimey! i am also very excited about making my tape for the tape tree. i spent all of yesterday surrounded by every record i own (well, apart from the shit ones), trying to decide what to put on it. it's a very difficult business y'know. so far i've only got three definite songs! my choice is made easier though by the fact i can't pick a stone roses track cos i haven't got tape-to-tape recording on my stereo, and everything by the mighty roses is on cassette. maybe i should upgrade.... i just thought i'd add to this comment from fiona: 'does anyone else find when they watch the football results and a team has scored 7 goals and it is written as 7 [SEVEN] that the voice in their head that reads things out on the telly exclaims SEVEN in a very loud voice, as if in disbelief?' they don't when the team who let the seven goals in is oxford united <sob>. after conceding seven twice last season (and once was at HOME! FUCK!!) people just expect it now....still, i'm sure it gives everyone else a laugh.... i'm sure the reason my tape is taken so long is because i have an overwhelming urge to listen to everything as i go along. it's like when you tidy your room and instead of tidying you sit in the middle of the floor with the recorder you found under your bed trying to play 'london's burning'. and then start reading all the magazines that have piled up from months back. it's amazing the stuff you can find in old nme's. i found the review of 'dog on wheels' (my fave b&s e.p) the other day which was nostalgic to say the least. and very bizarre because i didn't actually know of b&s then. i only got into them when i heard 'lazy line painter jane'. so that was a pretty surreal experience. anyway, i'm going to love you and leave you as my eyes are going funny now. lots of love rachel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: hairy and pretentious
by Elizabeth Daplyn 23 Nov '99

23 Nov '99

Hola amigos. Viva la revolucion. So there I was, sitting at the grubby kitchen table and having a nice cuppa char, when suddenly I sensed a mincing presence waiting outside the door. A few tendrils of curly pink hair drifted around the corner in anticipation of the entrance of THE POOFTAH POETRY POODLE who proceeded to deposit this little excremental gem in the middle of the lino. Enjoy. (It's only the first stanza, by the way, but the others detract from this one's full visceral impact, I feel) Lullaby Lay Your Sleeping head, my love, Human on my faithless arm: Time and fevers burn away Individual beauty from Thoughtful children, and the grave Proves the child ephemeral: But in my arms till break of day Let the living creature lie, Mortal, guilty, but to me The entirely beautiful. W.H.Auden Mmmmmm, 80s night at the Zodiac in Oxford (Atomic). Classy stuff. I asked for, and got, Love Will Tear Us Apart, and also, unasked-for, This Charming Man. Also a load of other 80s crap, but hey! you takes what you gets. It's funny, but whenever I'm dancing to a song I really REALLY love, all considerations of style and cool frugging go out the window, and I revert to the all-purpose flailing- elbows groove which occupies the darkest place in my dancing repertoire. Hmmm. The Primal Scenester. They're probably showing my episode of University Challenge next Monday, if anyone gives a toss. I think I said the words "communist" and "frottage" with a certain flair. So tune in to see Jeremy Paxman rip the piss. I was sat next to him in make-up, you know: much Polyfilla required. Love, Liz :x 0771 3014742 *************************Never Knowingly Underdressed************************* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: i could only make you cry with these words
by Archel1978＠aol.com 23 Nov '99

23 Nov '99

well thanks a bunch owen - i was woken up at some ungodly hour this morning by the poetry parrot pecking at my skylight and screaming that he was being chased by kittens, despite his protestations that he was not in fact a daurian starling. i asked him why he couldn't use the doorbell like everyone else, but he replied that he was a metaphor and so did not have to follow such conventions. he is currently picking over the meagre bones of my creative output and laughing scornfully, but i've warned him that if he doesn't behave himself i'll make his feathers into quill pens. don't quite know how inflicting one of my own poems on you will inspire you to contribute to my little project, unless it's through anxiety about me filling it with other such pieces because of a lack of any submissions. but thank you very much for the plug, owen. may your pointy hat be blessed. someone has a grade school crush on me! this should happen far more often. having given up sex in favour of fireworks and knitting, i am quite happy to be crushed on by gay men who won't break my heart. but since i have a crush on fiona too, adam, we may be embroiled in a grade school love triangle before we know it. in fact i have a fair few innocent, rosy-cheeked, non-sexual, apple-on-desk type crushes on listees, because let's face it you're all just lovely, and can hold my hand in the dinner queue any time. i finally saw funkyseb on tv last night, a flash of talent and beauty in the middle of coronation street. i looked up from a crucial stage in my knitting (had to go out for wool supplies today, but i'm storming ahead with it again now) and there he was. i do truly feel sorry for US listees now. the poetry parrot is nagging me for a share of the beans on toast i'm just about to make, so i'd better go. funny how he forgets he's a metaphor when it comes to food.... luv archel xxx *********** Rachel Playforth archel(a)iname.com Write poetry? Send it to 'buzzwords' now! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: More Nalda Said gushing
by Nick.Dastoor＠guardian.co.uk 23 Nov '99

23 Nov '99

'Nalda Said is attracting great acclaim not because it is a book by the bass player of Belle & Sebastian, but because it's a fabulous novel'? Do they mean in the original sense of 'fabulous'. Enough carping, I really ought to read it myself. Far be it from me to give credence to anything Carsmile Steve says, but Stuart David leaving has always seemed likely. He always seems to be dissociating himself from the whole thing. Which is fine. Awkward boy. Like Jack Nicholson in 'Five Easy Pieces', except not really at all. Ailsa Ross thinks he only writes songs like 'Paper Boat' and 'Winter Wooskie' to take the piss out of Belle and Thebathtian, but I think that's a wicked thing to suggest. I would join this tape tree, but I was hoping that the old one might be brought back to life. If anyone around the world has either of my two tapes I'd quite like to know where they are. Specifically, I'd like to know what the track listings are. Also, someone's tape had a lovely ramshackle cover version of 'Don't Worry Baby' by some indie band (Comet Gain?). I have lost my copy of this and have had no success finding out what record it appears on. Can anyone help? Here's this then: Paperback writers It keeps Michael Stipe up at night and gives Bono a break from the day job. But Nick Cave got it out of his system years ago. Dave Simpson on pop's love affair with the novel The Guardian, Monday November 22, 1999 It's early evening in Leeds and 200 young people are staring at a guitarist. But this isn't a gig. There's no lager, no dancing and no music. Stuart David, the bespectacled bass player from Belle & Sebastian, is reading from a novel. What's more, he wrote it. Nalda Said is a work of fiction written by a pop star, and they're all at it. Not autobiographies full of glossy photos, but actual creative writing. Bono is preparing his magnum opus; Michael Stipe stays up late working on his; and the unlikely figure of Royal Trux rocker Neil Hagerty has penned a fantasy yarn called Victory Chimp. It's not just novels: the poetry compilation Oral features surprisingly readable prose from the likes of Nicky Wire of Manic Street Preachers, Robbie Williams, Jarvis Cocker, PJ Harvey, Shane MacGowan and many more. But it seems that fiction is where it's at. "Any pop star who decides to take himself seriously wants to write fiction," says the literary agent Cat Ledger. "They think writing's cool." Their role models are the likes of Gil Scott-Heron, Leonard Cohen and Nick Cave, who have all written acclaimed novels. "Cave's And the Ass Saw the Angel [published in 1988] was a superb book, truly exceptional," says Mark Stanton of Edinburgh-based publishers Canongate. But can the new wave match it? "I get scores of manuscripts," says Ledger. "Some of them are astonishingly bad - I mean unreadable. These are people whose writing career should fit through the middle of a Polo mint. Naming no names, of course, but as I see from my slush pile, most of them couldn't even write their own sleevenotes." Any pop star going into writing has the undoubted advantage of a "name", something that should ensure that copies are sold. Stuart David sent three manuscripts unsuccessfully before the publishers IMP became aware that chapters of Nalda Said were appearing on his own website and became intrigued by the prospect of a Brit-winning author. "They said they would probably have published Nalda Said anyway," says David. "But I don't think they would." The cover blurb makes great play of his involvement in Belle & Sebastian, "whom Select magazine called the new Smiths". However, a pop background can work against a pop writer, especially a famous one. The old adage of "the bigger they are, the harder they fall" is particularly relevant to pop novelists in often snooty literary circles. "I think Nick Cave and Richard Hell's novels were very good," muses David Berman of US rockers Silver Jews, also a published poet. "I'm sure their music careers have aided them in getting published but did them a disservice when it came to how the books were actually read. It becomes contextualised as 'moonlighting'." Which is particularly ironic in Hell's case, as he hardly makes any music at all nowadays. So what makes a good pop novelist? Nalda Said is attracting great acclaim not because it is a book by the bass player of Belle & Sebastian, but because it's a fabulous novel. The story concerns the nameless son of a jewel thief, brought up by his aunt Nalda, who convinces the boy that he carries one of his father's hidden jewels inside his stomach. The fantasy-like narrative details his subsequent terror of and interaction with society, who he fears will discover his secret and steal his jewel. Nalda Said is a stunning insight into reclusion, a sideways glance at conservatism ("The character has his chance to change and doesn't take it. I think a lot of people are basically like that," says David) and an allegory of the way the business world treats art. What it isn't is about pop music. In fact, there isn't so much as a pop record playing in the background. But Stuart David has tapped into some very pop qualities - of fantasy and imagination. The world of pop music exists in an almost parallel universe to everyday society. The hours are irregular, there are all sorts of unusual characters who simply wouldn't be able to operate in the "normal" world of employment, and the whole exists in a kind of surreal bubble based around arrested development and - particularly - the creation and indulgence of fantasy. But even within this curious world, the pop musician is an outsider again - a nomad, a more pronounced fantasist and (by nature as well as profession) an observer. All qualities that make for good writing. "I think pop pretty much influenced that character in the book," admits David. "Even though it was written before I was releasing records, I was living like that anyway. Quite cut off from normal nine-to-five society." Novelist Magnus Mills, who himself underwent a gargantuan career shift from bus driving to a Booker nomination with The Restraint of Beasts, identifies with what we might call the loneliness of the long-distance pop singer. "As far as I'm concerned, there's no reason a musician can't write a book, and there's a chance it might be good, because of the solitary existence," he says. "Bus driving is a similar parallel universe. I was determined not to waste my time. Because of the nature of the job, you spend a lot of time either in your cab on your own or working at funny times. I think solitude and loneliness are very important to being a good writer." It has to be said that Stuart David is not a regular pop person. Quietly spoken, introspective, happily hermetic, and slyly, amiably subversive, he's less likely to throw a television out of a hotel window than to sit down in front of it to watch a programme about Rimbaud. His own life should provide a fount of inspiration. He met his wife, Karn, after they had been pen pals for eight years. They met once a year for seven, and then "just got married". Appropriately, Nalda Said is a triumph not of wordplay, but of adventure - something increasingly denied by a pop scene largely owned by four multinational companies and increasingly forced into limiting, easily packaged areas. Like many a great pop song, David's book grew from unlikely beginnings. "One of my mum's friends once told me about a poem about a dog that ate straw and shat diamonds," he says, admitting that his hero's fear of the outside world was partly influenced by biographies of John Lennon, but that any direct pop influences end there. For some, the crossover is easy. David enjoys fiction because he was always interested in reading and has studied creative writing. David Berman of Silver Jews finds song writing easier than prose, but says it's "much harder to write a great song". The KLF's Bill Drummond (whose new book 45 is out shortly) considers himself "an artist who happens to have done some pop music". But perhaps - as Magnus Mills suggests - there is a certain type of pop persona that lends itself to fiction. "I'd read a book by Jimmy Page," says Mills. "I mean, I'd imagine Julian Cope would probably write a novel [he has actually written three works of non-fiction]. Ian Dury, Lou Reed, Paul Weller... You can almost tell the types. I can't imagine anyone from Boyzone doing a book. That would be ghostwritten by Jeffrey Archer." Still, that doesn't mean we should stop hoping for literary excursions from the likes of Martine McCutcheon, Gomez, Goldie and Celine Dion. At least it would stop them making those bloody awful records. ? Nalda Said by Stuart David is published by IMP, price £7.99. Extracts can be read at www.treehouse.clara.net/nalda.htm Oral, edited by Sarah-Jane Lovett, is published by Sceptre, price £6.99. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: no, wait, you see, it's really funny.
by Denise Power 23 Nov '99

23 Nov '99

The young man beside me in the computer room just peered at the monitor of MY computer and said, Hmmm, mailing list, which one is it ?Sinister , what's that ? I felt a little taken aback and said, Er...Belle and Sebasti... but before I could finish he said, Mailing list, yeah ? I remember when I used to be on a mailing list. Police, it was. Ever heard of The police ? At this, I spluttered into my, by now cold 911 coffee which was made by the ugliest of 911 workers. (The one with the fangs , for those of you who are familiar with the various traits of the 911 worker in UCD.) Why don't you send into that list of yours, asking them for "Your top ten albums of all time." "I think it's already been done." I said, looking around feverishly wondering why the hell no-body was stopping him from talking to me. At this he laughed. Ha ha ha . He said. No it's ironic. They'd still be sending them to me if I didn't unsubscribe immediately. Seriously, do it for the laugh. So for that man, I'm doing it for the laugh. What's your top ten albums ever ? Come on, do it for the laugh. What ?????You want mine. (whisper) I don't even own ten albums. (I can make it up ?) (said confidently ) : Okay, here goes, my top ten albums. 1."No jacket required" Phil Collins 2."Innuendo" Queen 3."Tiger Milk" B&S 4."Bad" Michael Jackson 5."Duophonic"Charles & Eddie 6.Grease OST 7.Batman OST 8."lovesexy" Prince 9."Mercury Falling" Sting 10. "Greatest Hits" Bee Gees Honorary mentions: "....Sinister" B&S "Band on the Run" Wings "Made in England" Elton John "Lunatic of God's Creation" Deicide So that's about it, it doesn't take long at all and has greatly amused a person whose name I don't even know. Goodbye and God bless dee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Stu D Webchat
by stephen hewitt 23 Nov '99

23 Nov '99

Last night as i was casually perusuing the newsgroup, i happened across a message for a Stu D live webchat. Imagine my surprise when I realise it was happening AT THAT VERY MOMENT!! So I clicked on the link and waited in the appropriate chatroom. Then the organiser guy said Stu couldn't get into that chat room, cos his computer was rubbish or something so someone, in their infinite wisdom, decided we should go to lycos chat. All I can say is i will never moan about undernet again, splits, lags were as nothing compared to this absolutely horrendous so called chat room. So about an hour later, after much faffing about, Stu turned up and me and four other people (johnfm and James Thornily (who I alerted from #sinister) and two others) had a bit of a chat. MAIN POINTS OF THE CHAT 1. Stu D thinks we are "freaky". On suggesting moving to #sinister cos Lycos was "pish" Stu D suggested finding a room on Virgin cos "sinister is a bit freaky" (he may have a point :)) 2. They recorded two songs for the Tube. Unfortunately didn't get a chance to ask him what the other one was or when it may surface (sorry) 3. Stu D WILL NOT be touring with B&S when they tour again. 4. In fact there were subtle undertones that he might be leaving the band to concentrate on Looper and stuff (can I stress this is simply hearsay and reading between the lines and NOT FACT) 5. When asked about the new B&S album he said he didn't know a lot about it (sorry, paraphrasing again, was trying to make some sort of transcript but it didn't quite work and it's at home). 6. He likes Dublin (sorry, this is getting a bit desparate, but it wasn't the most organised of webchats) My head was spinning by this point, due to the way the chat room updated, so I bade them farewell. Unfortunately I didn't pick up enough courage to ask him if he smelt of wee, but that's because I'm a cowardy cowardy custard (where's Starry when you need her :)). Frankly it was a bit of a shambles, but it was a laugh (although it's prob'ly sent my phone bill through the roof). If I was a proper investigative journalist type person (as opposed to drooling fanboy) I probably could have come up with some inscisive questions (or plucked up enough courage to ask him if he smelt of wee). These are the guys who organised it: http://www.abisti.demon.co.uk/index.htm I don't know if they're going to put a transcript up, might be quite difficult as we ended up not using their chat room, but there is a little piece about Stu D and the book. Oh, if I can just add my twopenn'orth about The Tube. I remember my mother telling me about when the beatles did "all you need is love" on telly for the first time and they had to sit through something ridiculous like 6 hours of horrendous rubbish before 5 minutes of the beatles, so maybe we didn't have it too bad. And IMHO anyone who wants to see the video should have to sit through the full 3 hours of mistimed links, vacant faces and Chris Moyles' mum talking about lo-fi (what I don't understand is why I didn't just switch off after they had been on, the logical part of my brain was saying "or course they're not going to be on again" and some other part was saying "aaahhh, but what if they are" and that part won unanimously, as it always does). wow, how much content xoxo CarsmileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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