November 1999 - Sinister

Sinister: Welcome Back Kotter...
by ELZober＠aol.com 05 Nov '99

05 Nov '99

A big hell to those who sin in the name of Belle and Sebastian... i've been unsubscribed for some time now, after the whole Select deal where they used my post as a quote i was a bit annoyed. (any Select bastards reading this - i hope you can see my two fingers....) first they give ALL my photo credits to some other wanker, then they quote me..... tossers... anyway, it's nice to be back in that land of sin, i've missed it - and it seems i've missed quite a bit while i was away.. a few days ago someone asked why anyone would want to buy an original copy of Tigermilk... perhaps this is obvious, but i didn't find anything specific in the archive, so i thought i'd recap a few things... while the new version is great, it's also been remastered on several songs among other things - if you have an original copy you can hear the difference... mind you, it's not a bad thing. also, the original was ONLY on vynil, and they were ALL miss-punched - the center hole is off center and it causes the record to skip, the more you play it, the more it skips and scratches itself. that is why those who own originals don't play them and went out and bought new copies. i've never played mine. well, i hope that wasn't too repetitious, with all these new nursery kids, it's bound to be new to someone... it's nice to see you all doing so well. i hope you all had a nice bonfire night (in the UK) i made Guy Fawkes and left him in the lounge with a sign, "A Penney for the Guy" and made .25 - not bad for Americans who have no clue who he is! snoggs elle +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Ooberman on John Peel
by CHRIS LEAK 05 Nov '99

05 Nov '99

Bonfire night greetings to all and sundry. Not that I condone home taping but did anyone happen to tape Ooberman on John Peel last night? If you did can you let me know cause I caught most of it in the car and they were really good. Bless Leaky ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: love won't destroy us in the end
by Archel1978＠aol.com 05 Nov '99

05 Nov '99

hello sinister, sorry if i'm a bit behind. i'm obviously not fully recovered from being dragged from the smoggy womb of london town and deposited in the chilly playpen of sussex, because i was convinced that bertrand the french thought that the pavements in stockholm were inherently cool. i was about to post some intellectual point about streets being paved with metaphorical gold, in this case the gold of coolness, then i read it again. you should really use capitals you know... oh. what a fabulously funny film gregory's girl is. i would never have believed that something made in 1980 could be that good. i mean, look at 'the empire strikes back'. and that bloke did look like alisdair, if he was wearing a dodgy wig. but what a shame john gordon sinclair doesn't still look like one of the flowerpot men. in an attempt to fill the (actually quite small) void left by my boyfriend, i've decided to do one thing every day that is suggested to me by a favourite song. yesterday i built a space rocket with boy who plays bass guitar, today i wrote 'porn is woman hatred' on someone's overcoat, and tomorrow i will hopefully be meeting someone at the cemet(e)ry gates. and when i get bored of that, i'm damn well going to sleep the clock around, because let's face it, i haven't got much to get up for at the moment. (that was meant as a literal statement referring to my lack of employment, not a cry for help.) i've got to go now, you know how it is. popes to burn, people to see. sorry to anyone who was intending to come to lewes, but proving just how modern and welcoming a country town can be, they've closed the railway station. who says we've got something to hide? it's not the *real* pope you know. "twelve tons of cornflakes pass under this bridge every day" luv archel xxx ********* Rachel Playforth archel(a)iname.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Shoot that poison sparrow
by poetryplace2 05 Nov '99

05 Nov '99

I'm coming toward ya, like Lucretia Borgia It's not my birthday and my girlfriend hasn't left me and I don't have a vinyl copy of Tigermilk in the post, so instead I've been thinking about the pulchritudinous Clare Grogan in Gregory's Girl. More specifically, her beret. The Frenchman in Stockholm raised the vexed issue of cool - what is it, who has it, how can I get some - but a thornier question still is how to fly in the face of all accepted notions of style, and yet still come out with some semblance of cool. The beret is a fascinating case in point: Clare Grogan = cool / Frank Spencer = not cool Che Guevara = cool / Norman Wisdom = not cool Jean-Paul Sartre = cool / Max-out-of-Rushmore = not cool What we learn from these equations is that cool has tended to be the preserve of early eighties Scottish singers, Latin America revolutionaries and Parisian philosophers, and very rarely of clumsy little speccy fellas. Tony Hancock in The Rebel is obviously the exception that proves the rule. I wonder if Stuart Murdoch would look cool in a beret? HMMMMMMM. He should wear one when he addresses the comrades at the Revolutionary Socialist gang-wankathon this evening. Hey! It's Bonfire Night tonight,and it's pissing down. What a surprise. If you're not going to burn the papists in Lewes, or watch Tim Hopkins run round with a flaming barrel of tar on his back in Exeter why not sample some jingle-jangle strumming from Bromide and The Foxgloves at London's Poetry Cafe? For details, email me at poetryplace2(a)easynet.co.uk Have a good weekend Stevie Troussé PS: Mr Miller, I'll get back to you on Monday, if that's ok? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: OON-der a Blood Red Sky
by Peter Miller 05 Nov '99

05 Nov '99

Last night on the telly: the jazz tootlin' King of Thailand showing that he's the only practioner of rare Exotica who walks it like he talks it. He was being paddled with golden paddles on a massive canoe up the crocodile infested river that runs through downtown Bangrak. He was taking photos of his own ceremony. What a monarch! I've seen Blake Witch Project. In the toilets beforehand, there were some very disturbing sounds coming from one of the cubicles. Either someone was having a bum or an extremely noisy wank. It put me right off the matter in hand, so I went to the upstairs toilets instead. I had heard that Blake Witch Project had benefitted from unusual promotion, so I was half expecting buzzers under the seats, but I thought this heavy breathing in the bogs business was going a bit too far. It might well have had nothing to do with Blake Witch Project, the other screen was showing A Midsummer Night's Dream starring Ally McBeal, and who can honestly say that they haven't had a good chug about Ally McBeal? No, no, don't go away! I didn't mean it. Later on, two dishevelled red faced young scamps came in, I think it was them. Having said that, I was acutely conscious of the possibility that someone might have thought it was me. I could've sworn they were looking at me funny... I wasn't very scared by the film, much to my relief, but it was good. I think it was the gamekeeper. They're always hanging things up in the woods. They're buggers, so they are. Pam and Mike, you have now joined the select company of people I've made poor qualty tapes for but haven't sent yet. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: about Hefner and B&S
by jarkko frantila 05 Nov '99

05 Nov '99

Well I interview Darren Hayman from Hefner for Sue-magazine via e-mail, as I've said before. Jsut a few questions, nothing spectacular. Well, thought you'd like to know what he said, escpecially since it's a bit about B&S too. Anyway, here it goes... 1) So, Fidelity Wars out and you've been doing some gigs in the UK. How's it been? Good, suprising, we thought only people in London knew about us really, the further north we went the more they danced. 2) It seems to me that you are in some sense a love/hate band: People either love your music or can't stand the slow jive you've got in your groove... Any truth in this? Or do you even care what people say about you? We care a little about what people think, as we are interested in our audience, but not in a way that governs what we do. I think any artist worth their salt wants a love/hate thing rather then a like thing. 3) I've got this impression that people tend to put you in the same category with the likes of Belle&Sebastian and others, you know, clever lyrics and semiacoustic music. Do you think that's accurate? Can you relate to, say, B&S? I can relate to them to an extent, but theres quite a few differences too. Belle & Sebastian create this world which doesn't really exist in real life and that gets on my nerves after a while, nice people though. 4) What do you think of people who, while talking about music, throw these lesser known bands into the discussion so they can prove how "in" they are? You ever do that? It happens in all musicscenes, wether it's Trance or House or Indie or whatever. Or do you just rock on and not give a damn about these things? Well its true, people who know about lesser, more obscure bands are more 'in' it proves they love music more. I do it all the time and I know I'm right. To prove it I'm listening right now to the Extra-glens. 5) What are you like when you're drunk? Get into fights or just sit around in the corner hoping that no-one notices you? I'm OK when I'm drunk, I talk a little less. 6) Any plans to tour Europe? You were in Stockholm but that was just a promotional-tour, wasn't it? Finland would be nice, you know... Never been to Stockholm, we want to come to Scandanavia. 7) What next? Now you've got horns and scratching in "Fidelity Wars"... You going to pull off a Neil Hannon or Burt Baccarah and get some big orchastration behind you to your next album? Just to put Hannon and Baccarach in the same sentence. Hannon is a buffoon. He uses violins in the same way Oasis use guitars, just pile them on. There was 3 more question, but since I screw them up a little (never mind, I wont go into details) I'll leave them out. Rock on 'till the break of break of dawn, @-->-- Jake That was it, you can go on with your lives now. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Yo! Sinister!
by Sarah Clarke 05 Nov '99

05 Nov '99

Hajimemashite you guys, Ah to be at home. I went to visit my pal Ross the Goth in Manchester Towne yesterday and worshipped at the wonder that is the Vinyl Exchange for the millionth time ever. Then I silently cursed it as it's very cheap prices on some godammed awful choons permitted Ross to buy a Sheep on Drugs album. And play it to me. "Oi you dumbum wanklefart, get this heap of ravey davey shite off that bluddy stereo NOW!!!", I enquired calmly. "Ok..." he replied. And puts on Brian Molko with David Bowie. I realise I have missed Ross. Ian The Gay Dirty Den is back! But Ian has lost somewhat of his allure in my eyes. And why is that? STEPS Ian! You had the opportunity to see them and you turned it down! Do you know their latest album of songles is called "Steptacular"?? Thats VERY GOOD! Great Pop Things like that don't come along a lot, y'know. Now if B&S had called their first album Tigermilktastic! then um....nothing much else would've changed I bet. But it'd be a much more Poptastic! name. And if B&S had called their third album "Deep Fried Gerbils are Great and Co-incidentally, Not To Boost Sales Or Anything But There Are Nuddy Pictures Of Stevie Jackson Contained Within Of This Long Playing Record", then they would've won a prize for a very long album title. Would "Yo! Belle & Sebastian!" be a good album title? I think WE should decide the name of the B&S newie. You can see the quality for yourselves eh... Would I LIKE to see Stevie Jackson with no pants on? Would I ever! Is Stevie an eligible bachelor too, or has he a bird? Or is he a big gay POOVE? Did I mention Chris Geddesh looks like Graham Coxon from Blur but lankier? I do mean this in a good way. He's a bit of sauce and no mistake. Anyway, I miss out on seeing STEPS at g.a.y on Saturday. Because I am located in the North West of Englonde. I might to go 'Smile'. As I'm not bothered if they don't play the olde records of yore. You know...discotheques have to grow...mature...and change, man. I want them to play Valerie Lemercier. Or Holiday. Or hopscotch. Ahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahaa. I was very touched by Stuart telling poor lost abandoned students who wish they'd never left their home in the North west to move to a place full of cockneys to live in a tiny room with no friends with an essay on proportional representation to write that they could write to him. Thats not me of course. But um...do you have to be at Glasgow uni to write to him? I reckon he's a lovely bloke. I have a little Tarepanda flopping about my screen. Its good. I'm going to take my leave of writing this now and watch the panda. Flop flop flop flop! Love Sarah xxx ===== ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: happy
by Bertrand Caron 05 Nov '99

05 Nov '99

Happy birthday to me! If someone wants to make me a present, an original version of tigermilk would be a perfect idea +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: value of original Tigermilk has not decreased at all
by OLDSCHREC＠aol.com 05 Nov '99

05 Nov '99

Someone asked about this recently. I parted with my original since I have the reissue on vinyl and CD. It went for $562 on e-bay. I hated to part with it but I needed a digital stage piano for my band gigs much more right now. Pete Gianakopoulos +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Reminder and Update: Top 15 (not 20) Albums of 1999
by Mark Niciu 05 Nov '99

05 Nov '99

Hi gals and guys, I just wanted to refresh your memories regarding my compiling a list of the "Top 20 Albums (LPs) of 1999". To date, I have only received 5 entries (and, albeit I appreciate his contribution, one entry listed only 8 albums). Nevertheless, to update the rules that I had previously presented, you need only provide 15 LPs (not the previous 20 that I had requested). This should alleviate the strain on some of our brains and proscribe one from having scrounge among less quality LPs in an effort to round out the 20. In addition, feel free to send this list as late as 1 February 2000. Thus, LPs that some of us have been anticipating, e.g. Gorky's Zygotic Mynci (my friend has renamed "Spanish Dance Troupe" the album of the year), the Charlatans, and Bernard Butler, but whose release dates fall after the 1 November 1999 date that I previously recommended for submittal may be included in the fray. I'll briefly present a synopsis of some of the lists that I have received. It appears to have been a breakthrough year musically for us Amerks, as the Flaming Lips' "The Soft Bulletin" (#1 on two of the five lists received), Beulah's "When Your Heartstrings Break", and Wilco's "Summerteeth" seem to be staples, understandingly enough, among those who have submitted. Some notable LPs, to my ears, that have been ranked low or omitted altogether are: 1. The Chemical Brothers "Surrender" - This is hands down the best dance/electronic album to be released this year. 2. Super Furry Animals "Guerrilla" - With Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, these Weslh lads are most innovative group around, and their new LP demonstrates their ability to experiment beautifully, e.g. "Northern Lites", "Wherever I Lay My Phone" and the splendid ballad "Fire in My Heart". 3. Mogwai "Come On Die Young" - The Glasgow lads show some versatility with this release, Iggy Pop's on "Punk Rock", and "Christmas Steps" is apocalyptic! 4. Salako "Musicality" - Somewhat surprisingly, little love has been demonstrated for Belle and Sebastian's labelmates. I saw them at the CMJ Music Festival in New York and, although Snow Patrol stole some of their thunder, they were quite charming and their music was quite catchy. I've said my piece! Now vote all 1000 or so of you sinisterites for your top 15 masterpieces (or scrounge some here and there) by sending your list to markniciu(a)hotmail.com Peace, ~M ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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