December 1999 - Sinister

Sinister: i havent slept in years
by danielle redden 07 Dec '99

07 Dec '99

when i have woken up before the sun rises following a night without much sleep and coffee and cigarettes are starting to feel like a poisen building in my blood my blood my blood the sounds in my house are unsettling my roommate my best friend coughing all night her throat still burning from the teargas her body covered in bruises she is just a peaceful person who cries at belle and sebastian songs too and her voice is different because men with guns took it away from her she hurts it was a revolution and i move through my day merging in and out of the people who tell me these papers are imporatnt my schedule my degree my career and it is all starting to lose it's meaning with her coughing her stories her wounds what is what is important and where am i going to falling falling love it scares the shit out of me it is too fast even for me and it's a big fucking ocean and i can only swim so much until my limbs ache from the pressure a philly b&s meetup later this week is likely to bring some calm at the very least sweet faces and sweet words and slow songs listen listen listen you can put your ear to the ground and hear what is coming beneath the feet of the people moving through their designs their day their mazes beneath the cycles the pulse the machines beneath her coughing and my dissolution beneath his sad goodbyes beneath the airplane put your ear to the ground and tell me what you hear deep deep deep love danielle p.s. for the girl who mentioned baxendale -- hmmm what good fun, check out "american friend" and laugh. p.p.s. for those who mentioned the WTO. it is an issuei have been working on and writing about for almost a year now. and yes, we knew what was coming. email me if you want to know more. i will gladly share all i know. Whaat!!! Have you tried The Doghouse??! Get your FREE WEB-BASED EMAIL account at: http://doghousemail.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: soon...
by zoe charaktinou 07 Dec '99

07 Dec '99

erm,yeah,hi.Sorry about my yesterday message but I was sooooooooooo pissed off,ooh! So,I don't know if it's of any interest and to be honest is far away but in OCTOBER 2000-that far away-a new Hal Hartley film is out!YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!(I suppose I like Hal Hartley).The film is called "soon" and I just found out about it and I am really really happy.So now I've got 2 things to expect-the new B&S album(right?) and the new Hal Hartley film."Oh what joy for every girl and boy ...." hm.I'm feeling melancholic the past few days.it's winter and I'm in a little ol' student room myself with my music and my books and I look at the castle outside and I don't have any bus stories or any B&S dreams and I can't sleep at night.Another fox appeared last night. I'm glad someone said what twee means.I was wondering. today the uni slagged me off for not having payed my accomodation.sob.i didn't like their treatment.oh well. in 2 weeks i'm HOME!i can't wait to go out.for three weeks i'm going to get my life back. i think i've gone too far now. stay calm and eat loads of chocolates. dream. cry. smile. bye. zoe. . ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: bitterness
by Youn J. Noh 07 Dec '99

07 Dec '99

Like Mark C. I couldn't tell which poem is Rachel's and which is her friend's, but I sure would like to know. Only on account of the mention of breasts, my simple-minded association of poet and speaker, and the assumption that Billy is a boy's name, I would guess that Rachel wrote "Holiday Romance". Now to find out that the reverse is true would be an unexpected and welcome insight. One couldn't have better luck than to have a last name like Playforth, for celebrity. The language in "Holiday Romance" seems more condensed, while the poetry in "On Turning Ten" seems to be more in the juxtaposition of images and ideas. I like both approaches very much; I guess it depends on what you are trying to achieve, as well as personal style, taste, etc. "Natural" talent seems a tremendous thing to have and makes me sceptical of writing programs, though I'm sure they do make a better poet or writer of one. The lines about the bath in "String Bean Jean" just passed me by, though I've sung along to it often enough. I guess it was the shock of the last verse: 7 to 8 years old for children is probably about 60 pounds (sorry, don't know the conversion to stone). That means in the bath Jo would have to be on his side and he would have to buoy her up to prevent her bones from scraping against the bath - well the water would be enough for that. I like how the names are androgynous. Well it's revealed that Jo is a girl but Phil' could be short for Philip or for Phyllis, couldn't it? Or even Philomena. And if she weighs 60 pounds, I don't think she could be "on the rag". Poetic license is fine of course. And Brandt, a while ago I wrote some things about "feminine sensibility", which were an embarrassment, and I agree with the points you mentioned. I meant something like I would guess that Stuart has a sister and that they were close while they were growing up. But it was overstated and I'm probably wrong. I guess _High Fidelity_ is as good a book as any for Belle & Sebastian to contribute a song to the film version of, and maybe things will be expressed better in the film than in the book, but there is something fundamentally wrong with it! The basic idea is all right, but the author only gets out of it by making a joke of music. Imagine if the conflict were between "real life" and some other form of art. Comedy is fine, but I have the hunch that it will be filled with cliches. Here is what Alistair Fitchett has to say about it (thanks again Alasdair!): ... it is what lies beyond the obsessive collation and collecting that matters most. To take strength from something which shows you to be less isolated than you at first thought, to take inspiration from that and to then say, 'I will create something new of my own, will set my own spirit in flight', to add someting new and unique to the story. The battle then remains, of course, as the battle of personal demons and doubts, but at least they are the demons and doubts of your own soul and not the surrogate demons of another. The context in which I've quoted it makes it sound preachy (the tone of my writing), but it's not in the text. Sorry about that. In _1984_ I wonder if George Orwell meant to claim that popular music had value apart from nostalgic value. I like very much how Arantxa mentions frequently in her posts that she is a physics student. It is important to be confident and to believe in what you are doing. In fields dominated by men it must be especially daunting. I wonder in what sense Stuart claims to have perfected the student lifestyle. To be unsettled and always to live for the future? Well I guess the last thing is something he must have conquered. The things he says in the chat from long ago suggest that. Only people like me who can't deal with the uncertainty imposed by a distant seemingly unattainable goal handle it that way. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: can it be? twee's in the dictionary!
by kerry 07 Dec '99

07 Dec '99

well hello again. long time no write. so tonight a friend asked me what "twee" meant. i tried to explain, and tried to tell her where it came from, but having no true definition or any of that, i sucked it up and looked at the merriam-websters dictionary that resides on my NeXT computer (which sits in our living room). sure enough, there it was. said something about it being excessively cute or something like that. said it was used primarily by the british and is baby-talk for "sweet." sounds good to me. then, sitting on my ass in front of the computer, dry, dirty vodka martini in hand (the second of the night) i check my mail to find an email from the loverly andreea who is throwing a belle and sebbie party this weekend. i had written to ask when, where, and what time it was happening. and whether or not i should bring booze. lots and lots of booze. she offhandedly remarks that it's on saturday, at 9pm, and that a boy from Amherst college named christian will be there with some friends. he had asked if she knew me. i'm assuming he's on this list, so, hello christian, i'll see you on saturday. i've been wondering for, oh, the past two years why you haven't called. are you too cool for me now? well, here's to a good saturday night. i can guarantee i'll be looking quite fabulous (as i usually do, not to toot my own horn. thank my grandmother and her breasts for that. speaking of, honey -- you'll be getting a shot of my lurvely rack for the sinister body part page just as soon as i can scan it). but, since i'm guessing he's on this list, i'll spare you the retelling of my reaction when i read that so casually he'd be making an appearance at this party. mymymy. glad to see the wu-ness has subsided, it was getting my goat a bit. but i'll refrain from making any more comments about it. as you've probably noted, i'm a bit hammered right now. vodka goes to me head pretty fast. and hello teri darling, got your postcard. i'm thinking about joining you at the pill one of these friday nights, but am afeard that jon will be there, as he's told me that he and ariel go. we're not exactly on the best of terms right now, as i've been kissing boys frequently, and he hasn't. so, since this is my first post in many a moon, i guess you deserve more than just drunken ramblings about boys named christian and the definition of twee. but, alas, i have nothing more to say. except that i got my grant for my thesis, and $500 more than i had planned. which i don't know what i'll do with. and now my mouth has gone numb from all the alcohol and cigarettes. ick. i suppose my hands are next. oh, wait, yes they are. my, that's an odd feeling . . . -kerry "my face is leaving in 15 minutes and you'd better be on it" -title of a too much light makes the baby go blind play +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: oh dear.
by embryonic crusadah 07 Dec '99

07 Dec '99

you know, just now, i was walking around my room as usual, and i accidentally stepped on my skateboard and lost my balance. i thought that only happened in cartoons. i spent the next five minutes or so sitting on the floor reflecting on the situation ... mostly about how much my bum hurt though. and what an utter fool i am. if that wasn't amusing enough, our dinner table conversation of the evening was of nick drake, whom my parents lovingly refer to as "the dead guy". "who is this singing?" "nick drake, mum" "oh, the dead guy, you mean?" "id really rather you didnt refer to him as 'the dead guy'." somehow through all of my family's protests to political correctness, Jeff buckley still remains "Jeff buckley" or at the very least, "the hallelujah fellow". i am feeling very frustrated by the fact that people always ask "whats up" as if they expect some sort of meaningful answer. who ever says anything besides "nothing"...? i have Yet to hear it. oh well. love, Lola. ps- ha, ha.. my brother just fell on my skateboard as well. perhaps i should move it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Thats why flags are such ugly things...YEAH!
by Walkn10＠aol.com 07 Dec '99

07 Dec '99

I saw Fugazi last night in DC and aside from being the most electrifying show, I actually spotted a guy in TBWTAS tee there, plus another petite blonde Isobel-ite with headscarve and all...anyone know who these people are (most especially the wee blonde...what a looker). For $5, I don't see how one could see anything better than a Fugazi show. Is Guy Picciotto the essence of cool or what? The way he dances, claps, flips, somersaults, wails and says is "r"s with a roll of the tongue...he's too heavy for your mother. Did anyone else on the list see that or Fountains of Wayne this weekend? So I hear in a short time the list crush will be no more...rats. Just as I began my mercurial climb into 21st place, the contest ends, which is pretty consistant with my luck as of late. Vote for me while the board still breathes, and I'll show my tits even if Erica won't. I do push-ups now, you now... My friend and I successfully killed a party for the first time this weekend, on purpose of course. Someone decided to put us in control of the CD player around midnight, which was a mistake of the highest order given that we were the only two drunks ones there and we didn't know anyone. The previous DJ had been playing Sublime and that dumb-ass limbo song all night, so we felt the need to spice the party up a bit...enter Metallica's "One." After the initial gunshot blasts and helicopter sounds on the intro, the entire party stopped and wondered what the hell was going on. Then once the main riff started, the pulse of the party went flat. James Hetfield killed the party. It was hilarious watching teeny-boppers trying to acclimate from "Limbo up and limbo down" to "Landmine has taken my sight, taken my speech, taken my hearing" etc., in a way that said "hey, this kind of crap goes on at every party, man...I'm hip." We were subsequently relieved of our duties. Are we going to try to coordinate some Sinister movement to celebrate the New Year, or more correctly, to welcome Y2K? How about getting knackered...I think we can all live with that. Don't Worry Baby Steve C. -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "And the wild regrets and the bloody sweats, None knew so well as I: For he who lives more lives than one More deaths than one must die" -Oscar Wilde +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: somequestions...abtengland
by Ecw99＠aol.com 07 Dec '99

07 Dec '99

hey so next semester im studying at winchester school of art. . . im going with out knowing anyone. IS anyone from around there? just curious . . .and nervous can i turn you on, can you operate . . . The Calculators +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: A Pint of McGuinness?
by ELZober＠aol.com 07 Dec '99

07 Dec '99

wow..... i don't know what to say about all the WTO stuff.... not living far from Seattle myself, and having a ton of friends up there (my friends dad works in the Key Tower and he was locked inside for four days - no one could get in or out!), i think it all went a bit awry.... really at the end of the day we (Americans) should be asking why we're letting foreign dictators - who weren't even elected and run their countries like madame's run brothels - tell us how to handle international trade.... at the end of the day, i think our generation is pretty bored, and we all need something to shout about...... more importantly - is it true that Martin McGuinness was elected Secratary of Education? is that just for the Irish Parliament? man, on man..... here's another question - doesn't it seem the least bit absurd that Americans are commonly under some kind of notion that they Irish-American? for starters most of the Irish who moved to America weren't the upstanding citizens of society people assume they were.... but never mind... trying to explian that concept to your average American is like trying to get a donkey to dance..... most people who make such a bold statement to me are more than bewildered when i ask them how they feel about the Potato Famine, or Bloody Sunday, or if they speak any Gaelic..... that is usually followed by a reference on their behalf to U2...... my father was born in Northern Ireland and until recent years had a tatoo of the Red Fist on his arm..... he still lives there.... do i think i'm Irish-American? no..... my Irish friends who live in Ireland are.... i'm kind of a hy-brid, and as much as i might not always like being American, it's a handicap i can overcome without stealing the nationalist identity of someone else's country.... i may be wrong, but that is my opinion.... to my way of thinking there really is no such thing - seeing as how most Americans i know think Gerry Adams is a "nice man".... mind you, we actually voted for Bill Clinton not once but TWICE AND OJ Simpson is innocent...... too much money and not enough common intelligence to strike a match.... anyway.... i would LOVE anyone's thoughts on the so-called Irish-American crap and also on the McGuinness issue - if it weren't for FOX News, i would know nothing about foreign politics.... we're too busy covering yet ANOTHER school shooting - the kid was 13, doesn't know who he shot or why he did it, he just did..... great, i feel safe.... snoggs elle +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Hey Napster! Napsteroonie!!
by Santa's Little Helper 07 Dec '99

07 Dec '99

Yellow. How's you lot then? Having been forced to post by That Damn Parrot (who has taken a shine to my Mothers leg... more later) I should at least try to make it slightly relevant, so I'll do that first... 1) Corby (northants?) wrote: >i found great mp3s of live belle and sebastian >including some song in french by isobel, That sounds like it could be the "Black Sessions", the song would be "Popee de Cire, Poupee de Son" (sp?) Also mentioned in the same post was a thing called napster. You might find this interesting http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,32559,00.html (I *did* say Might...) Link courtesy of NeedToKnow (http://www.ntk.net) and my failing memory 2) Hey, does anyone else think it's cool that GEORGE HENRY DICKIE was writing about capitalism, seeing as he uses them exlusively? ;-) 3) I went to see "El Hombres Tragedados" at the Beat Room recordings Audience: 6 Punters, 3 Staff. shocking. They were good. LOUD!!, but good. I got talking to the Bassist, who told me that Isobel sometimes does a DJ spot in the 13th Note (Glasgow) - Does Keith know his idea's been ripped off already? 4) I have been diligently trying to look after the Poetry Parrot for the past (t)week, and I had no idea what a noisy chap he is! He seemed very subdued when Archel came to play, but for the past week he's done nothing but finish off all my whisky, demand Kebabs at 4:00 am and try to hump my mother's leg (I think it's her tights he's after) However, in the midst of all this Rowdy behaviour, he did manage to yell this offering... I managed to write it down, despite the fact it was at 6:00am and I had work the next morning. bastard. --------------------------------------------------------------- The Myth of the Poetic P.C Male Nick Larkin There's a rip-off of poetry wherever you look, It's like constantly catching a fucking useless crook, Some would-be poser with a morality for sale - The myth of the poetic p.c male. It was slapped up in June and managed to inspire Laughter, incredulity, nausea and ire: "Making love beats cheap sex - and I'm first with this tale." - The pith of the poetic p.c male The camoflaged sneer, the self-sanctioned leer, A poster shouting "Ladies, I'm safe but not queer!" The revelation is girls aren't just legs, tits and bum, But pairing it with, "by the way, I once made one come" Shows more than just crassness (see the rythm, form and tone), It says "Lads" are locked out but Mr Chauvin is still home. It's not big and it's not clever, slagging other men, And the effect of your "message" seems a bit beyond your ken: You're using these barbies for your arty pretensions. You're exploiting those girls with the unreal dimensions. Their expressions may be blank but they're less of a threat Than your public wank, the biggest insult yet To the women whom your words all fail - God help the Miss of the poetic p.c male --------------------------------------------------------------- (c) Gerd E. Muller and the no.13 club, so "sorry!" to them I also think it should be the new B+S album title "The Myth of the poetic p.c male" - although that may be too sensible :-) Since the Parrot had developed a taste for my alcohol, I think he should (In the finest sinister trend) continue... So I'm sending him to Paula Cullen booze explosion. and I hope he has hops happening (h)in his haiku hair. ha! (alliteration, anyone?) Cheers, Chums, Cal "Loose Lipped Controller" whoof! big post! (no photo forthcoming) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: fox in the subconscious snow
by Robyn Fadden 06 Dec '99

06 Dec '99

Mercy me, you *are* sinister. Rah. Okay, so I never meant it to happen, but I had a fox in the snow dream. I was in a club somewhere in my subconscious and I was wearing a red and blue t-shirt with geometric designs and comicbook superhero stuff on it - I called it my "fox in the snow t-shirt". Then I ran into a guy wearing the same t-shirt, but in reverse colours with slight changes to the drawing. We talked, but then found each other boring and walked away. And that is all. No band members, nuthin. That's all today, no political rants or insight at all really. And to top it off, I have to tell you to visit a site about really bad hair: http://www.mulletsgalore.com/ It's absolute brilliance. Okay, it's a little evil, but it's damn funny. Love and stylish hair, Robyn ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden(a)yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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