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Sinister: I know where the summer goes..
by Giita . 30 May '99

30 May '99

Hello, Well itŽs been while since I last mailed you people (sorry). All is well in Iceland, my exams are over, school is finished and life is summer! ItŽs wonderful...The only thing is, I have two jobs and have to work a lot, so no picnics or beach trips for me :( But waiting eagerly for the next "Bowlie"! Eurovision content: There were Eurovision parties everywhere last night, people were very exited..Even though the music was crap I went to one of those parties and participated in the yelling and NO!ing. The Swedish silicon mermaid won..sadly we were in the second place.. Well after the Visision, we went to see Jon Spencer BLUES EXPLOSION!!! (Yes, in Iceland) It was one of the best concerts I have been to in Iceland. I didnŽt get to see much of their set at Bowlie, but their performance was unbelievable! Brilliant. I danced like crazy for the whole two hours they played. oh what a night.... Anyway, I just wanted to let you know I am still alive. Sweet dreams. XXX Giita @->-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: A bit on J.D. Salinger
by sam 30 May '99

30 May '99

Well, I suppose there are four published J.D. Salinger books: 'Catcher in the Rye', 'Franny & Zooey', 'Nine Stories' and 'Seymour an introduction & raise high the roof beam, carpenters'--which is, if I remember right, a short bit introducing Seymour Glass from 'A perfect day for bananafish' and then a lot of stuff about the Glass family. I could have this all mixed up--I haven't read these since jr high. Anyway, everyone probably already knows. Oh, and there are stolen J.D. Salinger stories here & there, I guess.. 'unofficial' ones, ones that he didn't want published. I've only heard of them, though--& never seen. Oh, and Brandt's absolutely right about Holden being the 'phony' & what-- not as though I need to reaffirm it. I have vague, vague memories about reading a J.D. Salinger poem, called 'The Sacred Forest' or something along that line. It was intended as a response to 'The Wasteland', though it wasn't very good--'The Underground Forest' maybe? I don't remember where I read it, I'm probably all muddled up.. This underground forest symbolized, don't know what--the secret vitality of culture? Anyway, he was very critical of T.S. Eliot-- I could be all wrong, though. Someone else altogether could've written that. --Samuel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: salinger films
by Arigreen23＠aol.com 30 May '99

30 May '99

nah, there haven't been any salinger movies except, i believe, "uncle wiggly in connecticut" from nine stories--- it's about phonies and what not, according to my memory. i'd rather it be that way--- i like my books and my movies, but they don't usually mix. by the way are there any portishead fans on the list? i bought their self titled today and so far it is fantastic. yay looper in philly!!! ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: There's a heartache following me
by Blake E Hamilton 30 May '99

30 May '99

Dears, Well, it's official. I had my heart broken yet again last evening. You'd think I'd get tired of it, or used to it, or expect it as some deformed normality, mixing lust and desire and care in some sort of apocryphal cauldroned mess. You see she's probably my best friend. But we have enough distance between us (a few hundred miles) to keep all personal dealings well below head level. Well I had made it up in my mind that I would perhaps 'try' last night, as we poured vodka into our souls. 'Try' being to give her a light kiss, deliver hopeless drivel drenched comments containing very warranted praise, or just looking at her in that goofy transcendental 'you make me giggle' portrait. Well, I did the latter, a lot. I suppose my gauge mechanism on whether girls are interested or not is about as calibrated as a broken thumb. Push comes to maim, and my best friend and my sweet Molly are left alone to kiss lightly and look at the harvest moon and such. Meanwhile I fell asleep in a wood-themed den smelling of rosemary and newly bought stereo equipment. I'm sure everyone has had that broken heart feeling--hungry but can't eat, tired yet can't sleep, awake but can't think, asleep but can't dream, eating but not full, hot but not sweaty. It's particularly dreadful, especially on a day like today. It's gorgeous and sweltering, and I don't have anyone to call. Well, that's my story. A few things--I love j.d. I will always adore catcher, but f&z is just as good, and I'm actually quite surprised that nobody has mentioned nine stories. A perfect day for bananafish is my favorite short story ever. Smut, everyone needs a bit of smut as while the sun bleeds into your iris. It just helps prevent destructive decay of the membrane, I think. Smut, that is. I actually wrote my college admissions essay in the first person of Holden. You see, I think I'm worthless, therefore it was a good comparison. I called the admissions officers phonies and everything. The topic was comparing yourself to a literary figure, naturally. Well, I got into the school, so I guess it's ok. If anyone wants me to post it, be sure to let me know. do something pretty while you can, even if it you don't feel like it love, blake -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- "Fuck!" - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: B&S Documentary
by David Andrew McNicol 30 May '99

30 May '99

Hi to everyone who I met yesterday on the Glasgow meet, and sorry to everyone I lost on the Glasgow meet. But enough, I believe I am in the position to record the B&S documentary tonight. My flatmate has just brought digital, but it's not up and running yet, although he knows someone who does have it working, so fingers crossed I'll have a copy, so if anyone wants a copy let me know, and I'll see what I can do. I will now dissapear, and get lost agian! Dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The J.D. Salinger multi media experience
by Brandt S. Fundak 30 May '99

30 May '99

Someone was speaking about Salinger films. Let's not forget that classic of American film starring J. D.'s son, Matt, "Captain America." This movie is worse than those live action Spider Man films from the 70s. Actually, I was looking on IMDB and noticed that Matt made his film debut in Revenge of the Nerds. I wonder if his relationship with J. D. had anything to do with his budding film career. It's kind of ironic that J. D.'s son would use his priveledge to advance his own agenda, kind of like Holden Caulfield does throughout The Catcher in the Rye. I think this is my major problem with Salinger. I remember reading once that Winona Ryder said that she carries a copy of Catcher in the Rye wherever she goes. Dennis Miller called his kid Holden. This book has had an effect on cultural consciousness and yet everybody has missed the point. We aren't supposed to relate to Holden Caulfield or admire him. He's as fake and phony as everyone he rips for being fake and phony in his narrative. If you think about it, when these big stars talk about Salinger they sound just like Holden Caulfield. Kind of funny. Then again, maybe that isn't so much a problem I have with Salinger than the problems I have with the majority of his readers... Brandt "Animals crap on our floors and WE pick it up! What, did we lose a war or something?" --Homer Simpson +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: smut-o-rama
by raquelita＠alloymail.com 30 May '99

30 May '99

the lovely courtney wrote: > Rachel I know you are on this list and read my posts. > This girl is the smuttiest of any girls I know and I'm > sure she's had experiences with cockrings/arab strap > if thats what it truly is. Now if you have questions > on, um, personal massagers...I could help. Thank you my dear...that is quite a compliment. I'll use it as a chance at self-promotion for you smut-minded peoples who missed my last post about it...I run a sex list. All smut, all the time (that's not actually true, there's fun and games and purity tests once in a while) and you can subscribe at: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/sexwise or read my sex column at: http://members.tripod.com/ctomag/may16cto/lust1.html as for actual cock rings or arab straps, I've probably seen 'em in the store but never in use, although I bet I know someone who has one or can tell me more about their usage. I just saw the divine Sleater-Kinney last night and they played some very OLD songs and it was incredible...and I'm off again today to see them. I've lost the Gentle Waves CD I bought so I haven't heard it yet, but hopefully I'll find it soon... xoxo, Rachel, aka Raquelita ----------------------------------------------- Get your free email at http://www.alloymail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Struan gets his cock out for the lads
by ar981611＠student.paisley.ac.uk 30 May '99

30 May '99

True. He did. Last night, in the toilets of O'Neills. Next urinal to Owen the Narrow Wizard. He didn't look, so don't ask (I did - ask, not look - and everyone laughed at me), but you'll all be delighted to know that he did wash his hands. Top quality Glasgow night out last night, made all the more top quality by our relentless stalking of Struan. After getting hugely pissed, five of us headed off to George Square to see Snow Patrol and then spent half an hour trying not to go "look, there's Richard Colburn" "where?" "Over there". "Is that Stuart Murdoch beside him?" "oh my God, do you think he's noticed we're staring at him?" etc whilst feigning interest in Snow Patrol's noisy nonsense. Then we realised they'd gone, so we decided to try all the pubs in the area, just to see if anyone we knew was in there (ahem), anyhow we got into O'Neills and there were Struan and Richard, surrounded by what can only be described as a bevy of blonde beauties, one of whom was the spitting image of Emma Bunton. "Bastards", Alasdair was heard to mutter into his pint, in a slightly bitter manner. Anyhow after much soul-searching, me and world champion Struan-stalker Sarah Wheeler decided we had to go and talk to him. As in get our photo taken with him. Sarah bravely asked him, and he went slightly pink and asked if it was a wind-up. And could we pretend like it was someone's birthday because he didn't want people to stare at him getting his photo taken. He was so lovely, and almost as embarrassed as we were. Then he went away, and we talked and stuff, then he came back and started talking to us, about Sinister and Bowlie and football. Apparently the Gentle Waves have been approached for "All Tomorrow's Parties" but as it's the 17th September, B&S are "in the studio" so it's really up to Isobel if she (and this is rather strange) can find people to play with her that weekend. He really enjoyed the last one, and was really impressed by Alasdair's Ginola-esque footballing skills. He talked about Ayr United a bit, and I bought him a drink. Baileys, if any of you bump into him in a pub and feel you want to buy him a drink. And me and Sarah grinned like muppets for the rest of the night. Then we stalked him up to the Art School. We didn't speak to him at all, but Isobel was there so Owen lurked behind pillars and was too scared to talk to her, if that counts at all. Sarah Martin was there too. But we never spoke to or stalked her. We ended up talking to David Kitchen for ages, mostly because he seemed content to heap praise on Alasdair's footballing skills, a theme running through the night, mostly perpetuated by Alasdair talking about the football at every possible opportunity and waiting for the adulation to waft his way. Surprisingly it did. "I have to take my hat off to you, you were great" said Struan, in an impressed manner. Oh, Stu's lost the bad hair colour by the way. Looks normal again. He's gorgeous when he blushes. Richard has a horrid beard, not dissimilar to the one sported by Stuart David for a week in the middle of April. Isobel was dressed all in white and according to Owen, isn't as pretty as she looks. Sinister smut content: "Ailsa's so much better with her hands than she is with her mouth". Someone said this in the pub. I know who it was, but I'm not saying. It was very very funny though. Big hellos to everyone who made it to the pub, even the lightweights who ran off at about 8 o'clock. Oh, and David, where the hell did you disappear off to when we came out of O'Neills? We waited for ages for you, you bastard... Ailsa xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: SOS more shocking revelations! (2nd sending)
by JJ 30 May '99

30 May '99

Apologies if anyone received this mail twice..I'm sending it again as quite a few people DIDN'T receive it, although some DID. Most peculiar and no mistake. Here we go! I've been investigating. You all thought that the 'Overlords' were watching us and discussing our pitiful movements. But no, things are far more serious and sordid than that. Proof, if proof need be, at: http://www.seahouses.u-net.com/sos.jpg Don't look if you are a small child and are easily offended by shocking things. What I want to know is....what happens when 'Honey' pulls that chain? JJ x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: [sinister]: Caulfield and Prozac?
by COURTOLY＠aol.com 30 May '99

30 May '99

I found this article at http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/articles/0,3266,25724-2,00.html Its is really wonderful about Salinger and Caulfield, and depression and drugs and records. It is proven by this list how addictive Belle and Sebastian are. We are going to have bands play at the Olymia Picnic! They are lovely boys, sure to entertain you... Love Courtney ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY The Danger of Suppressing Sadness What if Holden Caulfield had been taking Prozac? BY WALTER KIRN Considering his wealth of symptoms--lethargy, forgetfulness, loss of interest in friends and studies--can there be any doubt that Holden Caulfield, the dropout hero of J.D. Salinger's 1950s masterpiece The Catcher in the Rye, would be on Luvox, Prozac or a similar drug if he were a teenager today? No doubt whatsoever. A textbook teen depressive by current standards, Caulfield would be a natural candidate for pharmaceutical intervention, joining a rising number of adolescents whose moodiness, anxiety and rebelliousness are being interpreted as warning signs of chemical imbalances. Indeed, if Caulfield had been a '90s teen, his incessant griping about "phonies" and general hostility toward mainstream society might have been nipped in the neurological bud. The cultural consequences? Incalculable. With the stroke of countless pens on thousands of prescription pads, the American coming-of-age experience--the stuff of endless novels, movies and pop songs--could gradually be rendered unrecognizable. Goodbye Salinger, Elvis and Bob Dylan; hello psychopharmacology. "The kids in my school traded Zoloft and Prozac pills the way kids used to trade baseball cards," says Stephen Morris, an Episcopal priest and former chaplain at a Texas parochial school. Of course, this school experience doesn't prove that schoolyards everywhere have turned into bustling prescription-drug bazaars. But Morris, who headed a schoolwide committee called Addressing Behaviors of Concern, recalls that "the problems we focused on were not dramatically different from my own youthful experiences." At least three-quarters of the time, says Morris, the kids in question were placed on medication in what he saw as the beginning of a vicious cycle that frequently worsened the original problem. "Challenges that teachers used to handle are being handed over to psychiatrists. Instead of dealing with kids inside the classroom, they yank them out, put them on drugs and stick them back in with glazed eyes a few days later. No wonder the kids end up as outcasts." Such outcasts may someday form their own majority, if this trend continues. The pain and confusion of growing up, once considered the proper subject of gloomy poetry read under the blankets and angry rock songs rehearsed in the garage, can now mean a quick ticket to the doctor's office. And it doesn't take a lot of acting up for a restless teenager to attract professional attention. On a website sponsored by Channel One, a television network for school-age youth, a recent posting written with the help of the National Association for Mental Illness classified the following behaviors as possible symptoms of manic depression in teens: "increased talking--the adolescent talks too much," "distractibility," "unrealistic highs in self-esteem--for example, a teenager who feels specially connected to God." That last one is a doozy. And heartbreaking. Could it be that Cassie Bernall, who bravely professed her religious faith while staring down the barrel of a gun at the height of the Columbine massacre, was not so much a hero and a martyr as an untreated candidate for lithium? For the education establishment to go on red alert at the first sign of spirituality in their students would be a devastating development. What is happening here? For better or worse, an institutional drug culture has sprung up in the hallways of All-American High, mimicking the one already established among depressed adults. As was pointed out in the May issue of Harper's magazine, the line between illicit, feel-good drugs such as marijuana and amphetamines and legal mood-altering substances such as Luvox, Wellbutrin, and Effexor is a blurry one. Many of the same optimistic claims--enhanced concentration, decreased anxiety, a renewed capacity for feeling pleasure--are made for both types of magic bullet, whether they are bought on the street or in a pharmacy. A profoundly mixed message is being sent to teens when certain substances are demonized for promoting the same subjective states touted on the labels of other compounds. Adolescents, who are famously alert to hypocrisy among their elders, will surely be the first to catch this irony. At least one hopes so. Teenage skepticism--Holden Caulfield's bitter gift for discerning inconsistencies in the solemn pronouncements of adults--may be one of the troubling traits on the medicators' target list. A pill that tones down youthful b.s. detectors would certainly be a boon to parents and teachers, but how would it enrich the lives of teenagers? Even if such a pill improved their moods--helping them stick to their studies, say, and compete in a world with close to zero tolerance for unproductive monkeying around--would it not rob them (and the rest of yy.s) of a potent source of social criticism, political idealism and cultural change? The trials and tribulations of growing up yield wisdom for all involved, both kids and parents. The young pose a constant challenge to the old, often an uncomfortable one, almost always an unexpected one, but meeting that challenge with hastily filled prescriptions may be bad medicine for everybody. For teens who need medication just to function or lessen the real dangers they might pose to others or themselves, the new medications may truly be miraculous. I know from my own experience with clinical depression (contracted as an adult and treated with a combination of therapy and drugs) that such diseases are real and formidable, impossible to wish away. But for kids in the murky emotional borderlands described in books like The Catcher in the Rye, antidepressants, stimulants and sedatives aren't a substitute for books and records, heroes and antiheroes. "I get bored sometimes," Holden Caulfield says, "when people tell me to act my age. Sometimes I act a lot older than I am--I really do--but people never notice it. People never notice anything." Maybe if people start noticing first and medicating second, more of today's confused young Caulfields will stand a chance of maturing into Salingers. END +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". 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