May 1999 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: toronto, f.l.b, oui oui oui!
by vlass＠interlog.com 27 May '99

27 May '99

i have about 40 messages left to read so i hope this stuff wasn't already discussed... Courtney asked: >Are there any fans of Francesca Lia Block here? oh yes yes yes.. i read -weetzie bat- for the first time when i was in grade 11 and for the rest of the year i dreamt of finding my own Secret Agent Lover Man.. i was hoping he was hiding somewhere within the school cafeteria but of course he wasn't. high school sucked. anyway, now i do have my Secret Agent but i'd still like to have some of the food f.l.b describes.. it's always so good! and about zine libraries -- does anyone know of any canadian libraries? or rather, ontario ones? anyway, more important news: the toronto picnic is this saturday.. for those who don't know, we will meet at about 2 at the jungle gym which is in the centre of high park. having no idea where the jungle gym is, the appropriate one to email for directions is emily at melissa.thornton(a)utoronto.ca ... don't call her melissa or else she will kill you or give you the wrong directions. bring any sort of picnic-y thing you want and well, let's just hope it won't rain.. who's all going anyway? cha cha cha teri "i had a job in an office once, i never talked to anyone." ps - hello to erika balsom! i was an old reader of cheshire :) we design synthesizers: http://members.tripod.com/~meltingsnow/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: lazy line painter jane
by erika balsom 27 May '99

27 May '99

hello everyone! marie elia thought: >as far as LLPJ goes, i was actually thinking (while i was driving for 8 >hours from pittsburgh to newyork (don't fall asleep...) the other day) >what the song could be about. not to be smutty, b/c i know how smut >is absolutely unacceptable and unwanted on this list, but it occurred to >me that it could be about a prostitute. well, reading the liner notes, >no. but come on: "a dose of thrush you got when licking railings" >"in the mud on yr knees trying hard not to please" "you know a girl >who's taxfree on her back" "you'll have a boy tonight..." i don't >know -- seems entirely possible. i tend to agree with her... the "you know a girl who's tax-free on her back" line continues with "while you are working for the joy of giving". in the song, jane obviously seems frustrated with her life and wants to change it.... so mabye she becomes a prostitute...? i don't know, but it seems plausible enough... and then perhaps after having made her choice, she's a little apprahensive to let people know what she's been doing ("you are in two minds/ tossing a coin to decide whether you should tell your mum...") but then, the little story in the liner notes completely contradicts that.... all the same though....... erika xox. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The words that I deliver
by Natasha Rachel 27 May '99

27 May '99

Hello luvvies. Nick made the unprecedented and frankly shocking move of bringing up that belle & sebastian band. "Subtle as the wind is grey". Days in general, and not so much the wind, are what you could often describe as grey. I shouldn't really do what I'm about to, as it might make me sound all arty litterrati, but I'm trying to make a point, alright. In A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, James Joyce is always banging on about how the air was grey during his schooldays, and I remember it cuz it paints an evocative atmosphere without trying very hard at all. I think the fact that you have to look at the wind in a certain frame of mind to be able to say, Well yes, it *is* grey, is part of Simple Things. Struan saying that "IF you want me, I'll be there... to deal with all your problems" fits in with his presence being subtle, and something you have to search to find, and look at in a certain way to realise what you've got. He's letting the girl (or even us fans) know that he feels something strong, but he's not being pushy or overbearing about it, which might scare her off. Saying he does feel strongly about her, but will only act on his feelings if she wants it too, is so much more mature and secure than declaring undying love and expecting the girl to go all gooey and pledge hers in return, just because he has. I know some boys/men think this is an effective way to win the object of what they imagine is their love, but from experience, personally it freaks me out and makes me feel guilty, like I owe said boy something, especially if the attraction traffic isn't flowing both ways. I might be reading far more into Simple Things than Struan intended there to be, but if the song is capable of taking on a life of its own after leaving his pretty tonsils, then that's one hell of a compliment to the band's song writing abilities. That round of applause for being almost entirely ON topic. I'll take it with fries to go please. Natasha xx (who also finds a million other things that just have to be done crop up when she's supposed to be revising) "One can be just as attached to futilities as to anything else." _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: how does it feel to be alone?
by sarah cracknell 27 May '99

27 May '99

hello my friends i am sorry that i must write to you in a downcast moment, rather than as my usual hipswingy-armwavey-maracashakey-type-of-girl self. however, i am finding it hard to be cheerful. you see, i am locked in a cellar and you appear to be the only people that care. today, the boy that lives here left me a bowl of tigernuts and some orange squash and informed me that this was a delicious nutritious healthy meal suitable for a rock star of my calibre. then he drifted away like a smile from a lover and left me to sit pondering the fickleness of fate: just last week i was a famous international groovesome babe. today i sit and regard the silverfish as they flip flop across the floor of my new home. the worst thing of all is that he hasn't installed any maracas down here. its mental cruelty i tell you. being deprived of my liberty is one thing, but i risk losing my place at the cutting edge of hand-held-percussion if i stay here much longer. fortunately, i have learnt the basics of electronic wizardry from bob stanley and was able to link up to the world wid web by cooing gently to a pigeon until it brought me a length of copper wire. i'm sure you know the procedure from that point. jessica, christa, you have been fooled, i am afraid to say. that person you saw was an impostor. i am saddened that i am so replacable. but perhaps bob and pete are not aware of the situation. i can peep under the crack of the cellar door and i saw the boy that lives here leaving the house in a blonde wig and a slinky catsuit earlier today. he was muttering something about a boy with a looper t-shirt and a pot of k.y. those of you who love me, i beg you to help. it is simple. all you need to do is send this ian fellow a plane ticket to north america (preferably somewhere hot) and a ticket to see saint etienne in concert. i can then get my pigeon to intercept the delivery and will be able to sing for you all once again. you know the worst of all this? you know why he kidnapped me? he only did it so that he could wear my terry underwear and feel the city air run past his body tara, if your bleached blonde army are on their way, i await my release eagerly and shall reward their efforts with a special sarah smile, bestowed only upon the most worthy. by the way, once i tried to put an elvis record up my nose, but it wouldn't fit. love sarah c. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Qui?
by Annie Tremp 27 May '99

27 May '99

70's Who, hmmm...? My dad claims he has every Who record ever made. I think this could even be true. That means i've probably subjected to it loads of times in my 'youth'. I don't remember much of that though, so i can't say if they were any good. But i'll be sure to cheat on that quizz Keith is planning and let my dad answer all the questions. Any country voting for the Belgian candidate on Eurovision will will forever be scraped from my 'must go there someday'-list. Still, even without that argument i don't think we'll be hearing much 'Belgium, 10 points' this year. As usual. As for pet names, i'll just say there's a long history of dogs named Scotty going on in the family. And Mauro Pavlowski is a grrreat name for a pet, don't ask why, it just is! Maurrrro, can't you just hear the cat purring/the fish blowing bubbles? It's a great name for a person too. Purrrrrrr... I think it was Fluffy Sarah who said that being British you had to eat crappy chips by law. Well, over here i think it's a law for grandparents to force-feed beer to their grandchildren. 'Nice', i hear you think. Believe me, it's not when you're five years old. 'Try it sweetie, you'll like it, yummm!'. Well, my stomach sure didn't. And is there another country where they sell beerfilled chocolates? Those a very nice. bye! Ann 61 from Zyrtec (having no car i decided to put my bus' number instead) Oh, and the person who's been planning to vote 12 times for me on the list crush site (i just know you're out there somewhere), you can start now you know. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Do as I do and scrap your fey ways
by Marie Elia 27 May '99

27 May '99

Nick.Dastoor wrote: >Is wind grey? Is Stuart subtle? Or maybe he knows >wind isn't grey at all and that's the point. >Also, if anyone has any idea what on earth Lazy Line >Painter Jane is about that would be good to hear. >I'm not interested in Mark Cassaroto's filthy theory, >by the way. simplethings is my Favourite b&s song, and i also often consider these lines and what they could mean. on the one hand, you just got to appreciate their beauty. but on the other hand, i don't know what scotland is like, and not to be a presumptuous and stupid american, but when i was in england, the sky was always a lovely shade of slate grey (i'm not being facetious; i really do love a grey sky). so i always think of wind being grey in england. that works for me... as far as LLPJ goes, i was actually thinking (while i was driving for 8 hours from pittsburgh to newyork (don't fall asleep...) the other day) what the song could be about. not to be smutty, b/c i know how smut is absolutely unacceptable and unwanted on this list, but it occurred to me that it could be about a prostitute. well, reading the liner notes, no. but come on: "a dose of thrush you got when licking railings" "in the mud on yr knees trying hard not to please" "you know a girl who's taxfree on her back" "you'll have a boy tonight..." i don't know -- seems entirely possible. listening to Dressy Bessy right now -- lovely poppy la-la-la stuff. the word bubblegum comes to mind... xoxo, marie _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Is Happiness Real? Or Am I So Jaded? Uh-Uh-Uh-Uh-Uh!
by PJMiller 27 May '99

27 May '99

No discussion of bagpipes in pop would be complete without a lengthy dissection of this fine old instrument's role in Mike Oldfield's epic debut album "Tubular Bells", which features narration by Viv Stanshall, who (as Blake knows) was a great mate of Keith Moon of The WHO. I think that what happened to The WHO in the seventies is this: 1) Recording technology became more and more advanced, making Moon's drums sound like the Mighty Thor. 2) Synthesizers came in, alienating many fans, who associated them with ELP, despite their fantasticness. 3) The WHO's lyrics changed from a Saturday night "rev-me-up" feel to more of a Monday night gloominess. I believe this was due to heroin, which makes you feel like you've got an enormous pile of ironing to do. 4) Everyone felt the need to keep up with Led Zeppelin, so big bombastic guitars were in, as were extended blues boogie work-outs. Hardly P!O!P! art. 5) The WHO spent most of the seventies in America, especially at Tanglewood Music Shed. 6) Few people have ever forgiven The WHO for inventing rock operas, now the exclusive preserve of Marillion fans. He knows, you know... 7) Pete discovered the seventies version of The Teletubbies, and went all mystical, a bit like David Icke. 8) Roger's acting career took off, eventually culminating in "Buddy's Song". 9) John Entwistle's gonna buy a tank and an AERoplane! 10) They called an album "Dot to Dot with the WHO" I think that's all. I answered some questions about teddy bears and tennis earlier, but I deleted them because they weren't about The WHO. I'm looking forward to Keith's 70s WHO quiz. Keith has got FOUR MASSIVE SPEAKERS, according to his excellent website. How many have you got, Blake? And I think my description of Manchester United was spot on. Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Put down that prostetic head Eugene, you don't know where it's been
by Kt788＠aol.com 27 May '99

27 May '99

My apologies for causing anyone undeserved misery and starting a mischievous thread. Really, I meant no harm, I'm just a bit thoughtless sometimes. Please forgive me. And to all of you with better memories than me, thank you. my brain sighs with relief. And one word: Thundercats! I have to go downtown now to do a bit of shopping. Downtown always scares me. It's all "historical", if you can call hokey gift shops and parking meters historical. and there's all these tourists standing around this dumb rock oooohing and aaaaaahhing and taking pictures. I try and tell them it's not even real, but they just don't listen. take care lovelies. And if there's any pilgrim paraphernalia I can pick up for you just let me know. with love from the planet, Juniper +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Do as I do and scrap your fey ways
by Nick.Dastoor＠guardian.co.uk 27 May '99

27 May '99

Looming Martin stuck at the end of post: "If you want me look me up I don't exist in usual places Subtle as the wind is grey." And I hereby start a Belle and Sebastian related thread. Actually, that's a bit of a presumption on my part - other people need to reply in order for it to be a 'thread', don't they? And after that unreleased lyrics fiasco of last week I'm not sure I should have any confidence on that score. Oops, I'm playing the fey and vulnerable again card again - sorry. Incidentally, did you know if you look up 'fey' in a lot of dictionaries it doesn't give the meaning we all think it has at all, but only something about malevolent irish sprites. ANYWAY (I seem to be turning into Ronnie Corbett. Once again I apologise to the international community) what I was going to say was that this particular lyric has puzzled me for a while. I know it sounds nice and everything, but as I said to my flatmate "Is this a really poetic image that I can't understand or just a load of old guff?" He plumped for the guff option, but I wonder if anyone else is prepared to elaborate on what Stuart might mean by claiming to be subtle as the wind is grey. Is wind grey? Is Stuart subtle? Or maybe he knows wind isn't grey at all and that's the point. Also, if anyone has any idea what on earth Lazy Line Painter Jane is about that would be good to hear. I'm not interested in Mark Cassaroto's filthy theory, by the way. Ignore all this if you find even the lightest of ANALysis dull and it reminds you of school or whatever. I only say this because people have moaned before. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Bagpuss is scary!
by David Andrew McNicol 27 May '99

27 May '99

Pete Ramsdale said: >If we're talking classics, it's got to be Bagpuss, Mr. Benn, >Chorlton and the Wheelies, Pipkins, Roobarb and Custard, Jamie >and the Magic Torch, Hong Kong Phooey, and of course, the >unmissable, magical, incomparable (and for that matter, most of >the time uninterpretable) Bod. I have to disagree with the Bagpuss thing, I'm sorry but that program was not a classic it was down right scary, along with the Clangers, but maybe that's just the way my mind works - Button Moon was a classic though! Also on the subjetc of Mr Ben, even though I wasn't has anyone heard anything about a film version, i heard something a while ago but nothing since Dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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