September 1999 - Sinister

Sinister: What a coincidence!....
by Chris_t_opher 18 Sep '99

18 Sep '99

..although i was kind of expecting this mail (but only in a surreal dream, mind!). This is what Leaky (love the name) said: "Subject: Sinister: Musicians Needed? Please help! Dear All As this is my first posting, I hope I am forgiven for a bit of self promotion. My band (Marwood), are currently looking for a new female vocalist and other musicians. We're based in Preston, NW England (it's not that bad, honestly), and have gigged at the Roadhouse in Manchester a couple of times, The Night & Day Cafe, Camden etc. The songs are really strong but our current vocalist isn't! In addition to the lead/rhythm guitars, bass, drums & vocals we'd really love to add some strings, maybe keyboards/sequencer, brass, well just about any kind of instrument would be welcome. As far as influences go it's not just Belle & Sebastian, there's the Delgados, Smiths, Beatles, Beta Band, Spiritulized plus many more. So, if you're based in the North West and your interested, please get in touch. I promise next time I post it will be much less self indulgent. Cheers Leaky P.S. I am going to see the Beta Band at Manchester Ritz later on this month, anyone else going?" RIGHT, firstly i thought "This is my chance to get back with another gigging band very very very near me!". I live near Blackburn if you're wondering. Then, i realised youve already got a bass player. DAMN! I could, however very quickly become a DJ (my brother's big on the Manchester DJ scene btw) or a keys player if there was a reason to<?>. LEFT, I saw your list of influences and i thought "God, maybe i wrote this in a drunken stupor". But then i realised i find it hard to write Spiritualized in such a stupor! DAMN! CENTER, and probably most important, i think i've hit the jackpot with the Ps. I am *planning* on seeing The Beta Band at the Ritz - so long as it hasnt sold out yet<looks worried>! If you want someone to go with (none of my friends like then and often call them "SHITE", are yours the same?), email me @ chorkan(a)talk21.com . Thats my lot... Dont know why this isnt a private email Dont really care either!. Chris_t_opher <01254 245406> Ps. Thanks to New Graduate Rachel for the info on York Uni. I went today an quite enjoyed myself. Didnt see many ducks and geese so it was a little disappointing - lol. Didnt get to look at any of those pubs cos i couldnt find them - we stopped in Thomas' in the centre for a quick drink tho. Suppose thats about the same quality as all the others then! The East River Pipe Community - Http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/EastRiverPipe You've got to go - its only natural. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: poor pissed poetry parrot
by Damon Seils 18 Sep '99

18 Sep '99

(I'm unprepared.) Thank you, Michele. The bird is now reciting passages from a self-help book he picked up on the way down from New England. Something about anger management. What exactly did you do to him? With the two poems below, I send the Poetry Parrot even deeper into the North American wilderness to JJ Fantastic Heldman, whose new Midwestern surroundings require some sort of Sinister christening. It might as well be the bird. JJ, you listening? The first poem is by Marilyn Hacker. The second is by Sharon Olds. - - - - - - - Five-thirty, little one, already light outside. From Spanish Harlem, sun spills through the seamless windows of my Gauloise blue bedroom, where you're sleeping, with what freight of dreams. Blue boat, blue boat, I'll navigate and pilot, this dawn-watch. There's someone who is dying, darling, and that's always true though skin on skin we would obliterate the fact, and mouth on mouth alive have come to something like the equilibrium of a light skiff on not-quite-tidal waves. And aren't we, when we are on dry land (with shaky sea legs) walking hand in hand (often enough) reading the lines on graves? - - - - - - - It Sometimes we fit together like the creamy speckled three-section body of the banana, that joke fruit, as sex was a joke when we were kids, and sometimes it is like a jagged blue comb of glass across my skin, and sometimes you have me bent over as thick paper can be folded, on the rug in the center of the room far from the soft bed, my knuckles pressed against the grit in the grain of the rug's braiding where they laid the rags tight and sewed them together, my ass in the air like a lily with a wound on it and I feel you going down into me as if my own tongue is your cock sticking out of my mouth like a stamen, the making and breaking of the world at the same moment, and sometimes it is sweet as the children we had thought were dead being brought to the shore in the narrow boats, boatload after boatload. Always I am stunned to remember it, as if I have been to Saturn or the bottom of a trench in the sea floor, I sit on my bed the next day with my mouth open and think of it. - - - - - - - Damon . +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: since you went away it's been night time all day...
by JLGodard＠webtv.net 18 Sep '99

18 Sep '99

Actually, I've never been so much into guided by voices (though I do consider Yo La Tengo one of the very best American bands, and ICHTHBAO a near-perfect album- if those pretty voices and sweet tunes don't get to you, you must be heartless), but now that I know...under the stars was done by Steve Albini, I may have to check it out. A Steve Albini production can be the best thing in the world for an album. Some very, very good albums have been done by Steve, who "records" and "engineers" things not to be "intentionally crap", but to be intentionally as abrasive and challenging as possible; he'll never let you escape from the drums, no sir. I call the effect of him being behind the board the "Albini lurch"- things he's produced sound queasy somehow, manic-depressive. In their own way, Steve Albini productions have the most extreme clarity and sonic cleanliness of any pop/rock music. Albini as a person is also misrepresented. He is only a prick when he needs to be, i.e. when his strongly (even rabidly) held aesthetic principles are under attack. I've met him, and he was definitly one of the most gracious, unassuming, and down-to-earth "rock" type people I've ever met. He's also quite cute- he looks a lot like George Stephanopolous without the bad hair. Has anybody ever seen George Stephanopolous and Steve Albini in the same room? Hmmmm..... Some Albini classics: Rid of Me - PJ Harvey (her best album and permanently in my top 10) After Murder Park - The Auteurs (again, Albini gives a band their best album) Seamonsters - The Wedding Present Surfer Rosa - The Pixies Secret Name - Low SIGN IT: -2 or 3 Things I Know About Chris Section 5: Word Use Pupil uses three given words in one sentence. Example: Disco/Hope/Apocalypse: "When the apocalypse comes, I hope I'm at the disco." 1. Merchant/Bread/Buy 2. Wake/Up/Bitch 3. Slap/Slap/Slap 4. River/Fish/Boat +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Miners refuse to work after death
by James Thorniley 18 Sep '99

18 Sep '99

Hello funsters, The subject comes from an amusing list of newspaper headlines I just recieved. My last post may have seemed a bit sarcastic, but it honestly wasn't. There are just a few points: James Gilmer looked guilty and said: >all those wonders of english >culture...and we give you Jerry Springer. Sorry about that, us poor >colonials have yet to find culture. Don't knock Jerry Springer. Jerry Springer is one of the best things on TV. You just have to get into the mood for it, just whistle and whoop and clap lots, it's great fun. It takes away you're worries. If I ever go to america I will go and see Jerry. Or maybe Ricki, she's good too. THAT NAUGHTY WORD Our dear head, Mr. Midworth, has come up with a plan to combat the immaturity and lack of effort in our year. There will be four groups of students: Group 1. These people will be given extra help with organisation, but they do need to worry much. Group 2. Will have their performance monitored and risk being put in group 3 if they do not improve. Group 3. Will have to report to teachers daily and will have to do all homework in school if they do not do it on time at home. These people are the evil ones. Group 4. Girls. Who are perfect, obviously. It would be bad enough, but to rub salt into the wound, I'VE BEEN CLASSIFIED AS A GIRL. I feel like Kryten did, except I don't get to go in the showers with them. LETS ALL MEET UP IN THE YEAR 2000 I love Jason's idea of millenium meet-ups, I might be able to leave the house for that excuse. We can all agree to get as many hifis as possible and play the same song at exactly the same time everywhere. I vote for MRS. And the time should be midnight. Of course, midnight is different anywhere, so it might not work perfectly. I remember when I first heard Jarvis Cocker sing "Won't it be strange when we're all fully grown..." I thought "hmm. only 15. It's not really that fully grown". A lot's happened though. Isn't it weird how things happen and stuff changes. Lots has changed, I couldn't have predicted it. Maybe it's not really wierd. <sigh> When I first heard *that* song everything was going to be perfect. Depressing rant: Now everything's going to be crap for me, I worked it out. We've had careers teachers round and all. "What do you want to be?". Oh f***, I think, because I don't want a job. I've taken to saying "Bus driver". A COMMENT ON SOCIETY Dave told us all about those strange people who fit in. I don't take pride in ever being nasty to the sort of people that wear designer clothes and listen to top 40 music. They don't know any better, right? Anyway, they're generally pretty friendly and fun, so no problem. Not everyone thinks they're better than you just because of what they wear. What does piss me off is the other band of hipsters who will get actively pissed off with you if you wear M&S trousers. It's these sort of people who take the piss out of B&S. The reason being they're scared of anything that's different. You might understand I'm talking along the lines of the grunger punk rock bitches here (there's a lot round here). They think of themselves as so hard and scary but there's nothing more scary to them than Stu M in a cardy. HA Can I just say that I agree with Marcus's comments too, and I think capitalism works for some (very few) things, but for music it's the worst possible way of sharing it out. DRINK WHAT *YOU* WANT TO DRINK, is my final comment on that line, thanks pete. I'll just end this quickly by saying what a shame it is that all our list crush votes don't count for Erica's election. -- James Thorniley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Your prejudice won't keep you warm tonight
by Robert Foster 18 Sep '99

18 Sep '99

In-between sending my previous email and receiving emails I got an email from the NME (Subscription), I suggest you go here http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19990916104603.html it'll tell you about the new All Tomorrows Panties You should also go here too http://members.tripod.co.uk/wpwe Rob +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Second Toughest in the Infants
by Robert Foster 18 Sep '99

18 Sep '99

Sorry about this, Outlook has forgotten that I'm using it and so I can't reveive emails without logging in again, this I don't want to do because I'm listning to mucis on the computer and it would have to stop. I apoligise for this because I don't know if anyone since I last downloaded emails (4 - 5 hours ago) has mentioned what I'm about to. All Tam O' Shanter's Pit Ponies is back on, well, later on. I read it in the NME. It said that it was going to happen in June 2000. Well that's what they said. Hum, if I were you I'd go here http://members.tripod.co.uk/wpwe Rob +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: It turned into one of the happiest days of my life
by James Thorniley 18 Sep '99

18 Sep '99

I just had to tell you No, I haven't got a girlfriend. It's better than that: MY HIFI BROKE Wait a minute. I'll slow down. From the beginnning I was just reading through my backlog of sinister posts, when I came to our beloved lauren's post (I would vote for you if I was allowed to vote twice) about that nasty boy. That's quite a sweet story, I think. Anyhow, it made me think, how you get surprises, but if you're careful, you won't get many. What I'm saying is I don't get many surprises, because I never give anyone the opportunity. This is because some surprises are not so nice, but then, some are nice. Lauren was cursed and blessed with both. I am only telling you this because I think it is ironic that I should get a surprise just as I was thinking about this. MY HIFI BROKE, MY HIFI BROKE I turned the computer off, and went upstairs. I looked at my hifi. The backlight was on, but there was no information on the display. I pressed some buttons. Nothing happened. The power button didn't even work. I thought "fuck". Now my hifi is useless. No amount of bashing will make it work. MY HIFI BROKE You might think this is bad, since I can't listen to any music (not even B&S). But really it's good, because it forces me to buy a new hi-fi. The old one was definitely very bad anyway. I might have to wait a bit to save up enough, but it shouldn't be long. Hurrah. I'M GETTING A NEW HIFI, I'M GETTING A NEW HIFI YAY. HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY There's lot's more I want to tell you but that can wait for another post. I'M GETTING A NEW HIFI. Please forgive me, I have to go and jump up and down a bit. -- James Thorniley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: my, what fun i had at the magnetic fields concert!
by Steve Kado 18 Sep '99

18 Sep '99

hello, i'm steven in toronto and i am brand-new. in fact i still give off that new smell, and there are bits of styrofoam packing stuck to me here and there, so i am very new. i went to see the magnetic fields on wednesday, and i admit that i was shocked at how dustin hoffman-like stephen merrit looked. He sounds so lanky and weird looking on the records! Oh well, after seeing him work his deadpan shtik for an evening i wouldn't have had it anyother way. my imagined tall, lanky stephen merrit can just go to hell. Also, just after the MFs had just finished their proper set and were being clapped back on stage for the customary encore i felt this pushing at my back. at first i assumed it was my friend little kevin coming up front to say hello but when the pressure was constant i knew something was wrong. And something _was_ wrong. when i turned around to see who could be applying such unwelcome pressure to my back this girl, who was apperantly using my back for support collapsed to her knees right in front of me and rested her head on my thigh. I've often been told i was a bit on the cute side but never had i triggered such an extreme response in a member of the opposite sex. As i helped her up she began saying something about heat exhaustion and i suggested she lean on the stage (since the stage probably has a better ability to support her leaning body then someone like me). As i was helping her to the stage she fell over again, this time in a much more fantastic way, flat on her back into a crowd of people. the great thing is that i got the whole thing on tape. i was listening to the CD i made of the concert and you can hear her fall over and everything, it;s priceless! my capacity to find the misery of others humourous is quite shocking sometimes. oh, and yes... i do like B&S quite a bit. steven kado +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: since you went away it's been night time all day...
by Walkn10＠aol.com 18 Sep '99

18 Sep '99

Blake hath spoken: << i bought two 'random' albums the other day...yo la tengo's 'i can hear the heart beating as one' and guided by voices 'under the brush under the stars'. at least that's what i think it's called. i'm not really getting into either, actually. >> Can't say much about the Yo La Tengo, but Blake! you're breaking my heart with the GBV apathy! Once you get past the intentionally crap production (done by Steve Albini...go figure) the beautiful, wide world of Robert Pollard is opened unto you. This was his last good album before he hit his shite stretch, which has consumed the last four years of his life. Their new album is quite good, but Under the Bushes Under the Stars will always reign supreme in my heart and mind. When I got it the summer before 10th grade I spent an entire holiday pretending I was singing "Your Name Is Wild" to this really pretty girl in my French class as I toiled about as a grocery stock boy. To this day everytime I walk in that store I start humming that song. As Blake said, Hurricane Floyd wasn't quite the monster the Weather Channel portrayed him as by the time he made his way to Baltimore. He was actually a pretty kind and benevolent soul by dumping a foot of rain on our parched and drought wracked fields. I think the farmers should kiss his ass because he kept them in work for one more year. Every September 16th should be "Tropical Storm Floyd Day" in which every farmer has to be shown footage of his crops rotting in the fields just so they'll realize how close they came. I liked the fellow so much I hope Floyd stops by again next year actually...I'll even leave a spot at the table for him. Speaking of the Weather Channel, is anyone else mesmorized by their female anchor Christine Abernathy? Not that she's overly sexy or anything, but she's just so tiny and pixie-ish with her slight southern twang and earnest demeanor that I could watch her all day. Just when I'm fully in love with her she says "Ok, let's have a look at how your weekend is shaping up...Greg?" and then the nerd in a ill-fitting suit steps up to the map and I dejectedly change the channel. She needs her own show where its just 24 hours of Abernathy in her glory! In fact I'm going to go see if she's on now... Ummm...so the new album is out this fall then? Right on! Love and South Park (because eventhough the freshman like it, it really is the best show on the telly) Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: my, what fun i had at the magnetic fields concert!
by Steve Kado 18 Sep '99

18 Sep '99

hello, i'm steven in toronto and i am brand-new. in fact i still give off that new smell, and there are bits of styrofoam packing stuck to me here and there, so i am very new. i went to see the magnetic fields on wednesday, and i admit that i was shocked at how dustin hoffman-like stephen merrit looked. He sounds so lanky and weird looking on the records! Oh well, after seeing him work his deadpan shtik for an evening i wouldn't have had it anyother way. my imagined tall, lanky stephen merrit can just go to hell. Also, just after the MFs had just finished their proper set and were being clapped back on stage for the customary encore i felt this pushing at my back. at first i assumed it was my friend little kevin coming up front to say hello but when the pressure was constant i knew something was wrong. And something _was_ wrong. when i turned around to see who could be applying such unwelcome pressure to my back this girl, who was apperantly using my back for support collapsed to her knees right in front of me and rested her head on my thigh. I've often been told i was a bit on the cute side but never had i triggered such an extreme response in a member of the opposite sex. As i helped her up she began saying something about heat exhaustion and i suggested she lean on the stage (since the stage probably has a better ability to support her leaning body then someone like me). As i was helping her to the stage she fell over again, this time in a much more fantastic way, flat on her back into a crowd of people. the great thing is that i got the whole thing on tape. i was listening to the CD i made of the concert and you can hear her fall over and everything, it;s priceless! my capacity to find the misery of others humourous is quite shocking sometimes. oh, and yes... i do like B&S quite a bit. steven kado +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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