December 2000 - Sinister

Sinister: London, Life and the Lovely List...
by Jo Reynolds 20 Dec '00

20 Dec '00

Hello :) After seeing some of the other list member's after pop sensation Baxendale (who I missed due to damn work) on Saturday night (hello Steve, Pam, Stuart and the wonderful Mr Trousers [so far my very favorite list member... Who I would like to thank for the drink's, even if he did somehow manage to mistake me asking for Lemonade as Bacardi and Cola! ;)] and I think some other's, but I don't remember name's, one man left cigarettes though, yay!) I said my intension was to become a more active list member... So here I am. With a post... I actually have nothing interesting to tell you all. I moved to London a couple of month's ago. I have had fun, but seeing as my best friend who used to live in London but has now moved to Iceland (!) it is not as much fun as it was when I used visit. It also cost's a lot of money. Of which I have none. And is full of scary people. Who all seem to talk to me. And it involves having a crap job* which I hate. And also has horrible mean homeless people who trick you they have been in a fight with a really mean boyfriend who drove off with their money and then when you don't give them a tenner they chase you with a dog until the bouncer of a club chases her away... The last sentence may have been a one off event... Anyway. I am going to go back to sunny Milton Keynes to play with the concrete cow's. :) My decision is (almost) final. So, a bit of Belle and Sebastian news for you all. It excited me anyway... ;) I went to "Trash" with the delightful Nadia (a secret list member I suspect... She deny's it though!! [Hiya Nadia, if your there!!]) and she introduced me to a Californian boy who played guitar with Stuart Murdoch last week in a church in Glasgow. I think the story was something like he just bumped into him and they just ended up playing together!! It's alright for some, the lucky monkey. ;) I can't remember details as I had had a tiny bit too much to drink. I think Stevie had given me a taste for the old Rum and Coke! I have just remembered a good thing about London!! It is called "easyEverything" and it is this wickedy internet cafe which is huge and really cheap! I am there now!! It costs a pound, and the least time you get is an hour! (It could be anything up to six, depending on the time and how busy it is!) Down point's to this place do exist, however... 1) It really should only ever cost me a pound, but always's costs me more... I get tempted by the coffee, which keep's me awake, so then I buy more computer time, which lead's to more coffee... 2) Stupid phone ring's are everywhere.** 3) There are so many noisy people... "JUST SHUT UP! I AM *TRYING* TO TYPE!!" I don't ever really do that, maybe I should... 4) I just saw someone type "Hello my darling love" at the beginning of an email. I wish people started letters to me like that... Anyway, this is getting out of hand now. I should really stop typing to to you all... So, that was a nice bit of information for you all to enjoy :) See you all soon, Lot's of Love, Joey x * I work at Urban Outfitter's, 36-38 Kensington High Street in Woman's Wear, you are all more than welcome to come and visit to try and relieve me of my boredom a little... ;) * One just now was the chorus in that Eminem song, which was a little coincidental as i am writing this particular letter and we has a bit conversation about it on Saturday night! x _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The steak that I'm eatin'
by Kenneth P Y Chu 20 Dec '00

20 Dec '00

Hello! I have recently been listening to O Come O Come Emmanuel non-stop, it is SO good, and it sounds all sad and stuff at the start, but then it gets more ooo I am less sad and stuff which is grate. Heh what a good review I should work for the NME, but I don't think I can cos I will be spending the whole time listening to O Come O Come Emmanuel non-stop. Hmm.. I'm tremendously late for my Christmas presents sending, arrrrgh. I will do that soon I promise even tho it's like already 5 days before Christmas! I was walking with my friend today at the city centre shopping for Christmas presents for his parents and that, and for some reason we ventured into the music shop, for some reason we picked up this leaflet, which said something to the effects of: "Terrorvision has been postponed to the 21st December, sorry" And we thought, that's TOMORROW! So, we dashed (well drove quickly) to the tickets office and guess what? WE GOT TICKETS! Woo Hoo! I thought I wouldn't be seeing them again for a long time after the last time, but all these coincidences together making me able to see them again, horray! Even I get some good fortune sometimes. Y!A!Y it is going to be a cool cool (4 days before) Christmas! :):):) Tickets for grate shows and Red Bulls Ken ====================================================================== Take Judy, with her bow and arrow, she's a mastermind Too frumpy for the teenage population of her time - Belle & Sebastian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: john peel,german porn stars and chocolate coins....
by Desmond Torpey 20 Dec '00

20 Dec '00

greetings sinisterines..... excuse me while i let out a little bit of frustration.. AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! ....ahem...sorry about that but this the fourth time i've attempted to write this mail...i curse you in a rude way and shake my fist in your direction NTL..you may have john peel doing your advertisements but dont take liberties....i know everyone is probably sick of the festive season but dont you just hate wet christmases?..all the decorations in town just look soggy and bemused rather than chilly and festive...crimbo isnt crimbo if you all your fingers havent turned black and dropped off before you've had a chance to eat so much as a chocolate coin.... ...i gave a tall septic person a tape of 'tigermilk' and 'iyfs' today in an attempt to convert him...i dont hold out much hope though...when i once played him 'we rule the school' he proclaimed it to be "pixie bollocks"...i dont fully understand what he meant but it is rather a good description when you think about it....i am quite proud to be a lover of pixie bollock music...... ...i had some fantabyolouswonderful news this week....i have joined a band!......i was in one before called Miss Marple but we never practiced,nobody could sing and the single acoustic guitar snapped in half after a drunken fall....so that was a bit of a non-starter....this band is called Monkey Wah Wah and they are genuinly fantastic...i'm playing drums for them and had a practice with the guitarist/singer on Friday....and on Monday i went to see them play and i can safely say it was the most surreal and exciting thing i have seen in live music in Swindon for oh such a long time....but when you consider that the most exciting event before that was the famous day ocean colour scene came to town its not such a great acheivement...but they were still wow.....if you imagine the velvet underground had made ash's 1977 thats what they sound like ( i could work for the nme couldnt i?.... or maybe not)...but the icing on the cake was the german porn star compere called Jurgen Milkfloat....decked out in medallions and snakeskin leather trousers he announce each band with throaty groans and gratioutous crotch grabbing....and every now and again he would peform a song of his own to a cheesy eighties synth backing....it was hard to make out the precise lyrics but one song went along the lines of "OOOHHHH!!! SHE WAS LIKE A RIPENED PEACH!".. the evening ended with Monkey Wah Wah's singer beating his decrepid guitair against the amp,the violinist looking ice-queen like and very alluring and Jurgen himself attempting to match his saturday night fever style wiggles to the onslaught of noise coming from the stage....i am extremely glad i've joined....but a bit scared.....heheheheh..... .... its goodbye from me until after christmas so i'm giving everyone on the list a big snog under the misletoe whether they like it or not......no dont run away!!...just a peck then??..... ta ta!! PS : i've just read this back and decided to leave the spelling of 'septic' in...it sounds better....like a fifties b movie...." ATTACK OF THE SEPTIC MAN ".....ahem..... PPS : that subject lines a recipe for scandal if ever i saw one....bubye!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: and the bells are sighing for me....
by robert smith 20 Dec '00

20 Dec '00

yes yes yes i know......over emotional subject, nevermind. what can you expect? its that time of year and i've just had a rather cinematic moment. the season i'm sure you'll all aware of so consider this me wishing you yuletide greetings. the cinematic moment was a rather tearful farewell at the train station. this semester i have yet again found myself falling for a delightful exchange student. i have a habit of this. europeans just seem so much more relaxed and cool than the london set (no offence, i too am from that smelly city) so goodbyes seem to be a regular occurrence. each semester actually. this time however things were all a bit sad. she was a lovely german girl with beautiful dark brown hair tall but not lanky slim but not in the least bit skinny.......ahhhhhhh see? sighing again. and now i'll never see her again. i could almost swear (quite elenita99 don't tell anyone about my general swearing levels) nevermind. bit of that sort of thing does you good i suppose. to weep about love is to sing about life byebyenow robertsmith _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: kids & grown-ups love it so..
by John Maxwell 20 Dec '00

20 Dec '00

Dear sinister, Hello! Its me again, coming out of hibernation for a wee whilie to greet you all a merry xmas & give all you wee lasses (and anyone else) smoochies under the mistletoe. Yay! Ive got my xmas social tomorrow night, wearing a kilt with cool wee shoes that I hired out. Not going to the after-party though. Quite simply, I couldnt afford the £3(!!!) ticket. Ah well, Ill have the last laugh when everyone goes to school the next day with throbbing headaches. Tee-hee Last Sunday, I was on my way to my guitar lesson in my fathers car. I know where the summer goes was playing, and everything was very beautiful. The moon was out (or was it the week before?), shining on the loch as we were gliding along the road. It was pitch-black, even at half 4. I was thinking of how much I used to disregard the rest of b&s, while only adoring Struan. But the keyboard on I know where is quite breathtaking, to say the least. Sos Stevies voice. A deer ran in front of us on the road. Its not unusual up here, but its the first time thats happened this here when Im in the car. Every time though, I always have to look away with horror, just incase the deer doesnt make it across the road. *shudder* *sigh* I wish there would be snow soon. Theres some on top of the hills, but all Im getting in the valley is rain, regardless of how cold it is :( och well, Id better go off to write some more chrissie cards. John x _______________________________________________________________________ FSmail - Get your free web-based email from Freeserve: www.fsmail.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Sillustrations
by The Fragrant World Of Princess Honey 20 Dec '00

20 Dec '00

So anyway, I had this idea. It's probably a very poor idea, like my rude christmas carol idea, which went down like "Family Tree" at a Metallica convention, but mummies make suggestions, so I'm going to suggest it anyway. If you all think it's a stupid idea just mutter "stupid!" dismissively, stomp out the house and go and play with those bad kids who hang out down the street outside the cinema, spitting and swearing and throwing pebbles at the nice old lady at no. 23. But remember, your tea's at 6 o'clock and I expect you to wash your hands, young lady. The idea was that we're a very visual lot, what with your frightening/lovely bodyparts, baby pictures, and Laura Molloy's lovely cartoons which give the intentionally (ahem) retro-style Sinister website some sense of coherence and style. So what better than to have an appointed Sinister Illustrator who brings to life a topical incident posted to the list once a week! The bearer of the title would scour the list archives each week and pick a mail and bring it to life in graphic form! If it's kinky, hopefully *very* graphic form. And I'd make a web page for them all. Haven't you ever wanted to see Peter Miller losing his mind at a 70's Who convention? Oon abusing an elephant? JenOwl chasing Bob the Wasp for a kiss? George Henry Dickie doing up his pants? Velocity Kalli giving little Spooky a ride on her scooter? Mark Casarotto being "faggy but nice"? I know I do. I can't draw for toffee so I thought I'd ask if one of you could? If anyone who *can* draw and thinks they might like to, and (important this) thinks they can stick around for some time and scrawl a JPG to email me every week from the list without being nagged, then send me a picture from one of last week's mails. Or fortnight, be honest if a week is too often for you, I wouldn't want to cause cramp. I'd prefer it to be just one person who could take this on for at least a few months rather than lots, because lots of different illustrators might make us look a bit like someone wearing a Gucci frock and a baseball cap, n'est-ce pas, innit? Send me something by Christmas and I'll pick an impartial team of judges (i.e. whoever I can find in the #sinister chat channel when I pop in) to make a decision, and probably pop all the entries on a web page too. You will then be Miss or Mr (or Ms! or Mrs! or Dr! or Mx! you choose!) Sillustrator and worthy of an email account "sillustrator(a)missprint.org" which points to an email address of your choosing. (this is the bit where I start to worry that no-one will send anything and I'll look silly, and think about not even sending this mail) (this is the bit where I think "oh go on, they'll forget it exists and you can just keep quiet if no-one mails you") (this is the bit where I remember the archives) While I'm on the subject of the archives, I want to make a point about them. When you're 70, and lonely and sad, I want to assure you that if the web still exists in some capacity, http://www.missprint.org/sinister will still get you to the archives. Your voices may be dry and tired by then, Sinister may have fallen quiet, we may have fried each other in a massive nuclear flaming war, but missprint.org will still be there unless the post-apocalyptic world council stops me. This has a bad side too, you will have to read your own posts from when you were wee, and this may be painful for some (like me), but I believe this to be a cathartic experience so administer the medicine with great relish. I hate the way message boards and archive sites are just removed when they've outlived their active lives, and it won't happen here. Words are precious, and seem to become more so as time passes. Oh, and you'll still get an ecstatic reply from honey(a)missprint.org in the year 2040 or so (rapid life expectancy calculation) so store up those mails! That's why Miss Print bought her own domain. She's not sure you can trust someone with an advert in their hand. Think I've nailed those Josh Baze "out of office" replies now. Better shh. Keep sparkling. Honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: beeeeautiful, but inconsequential...
by sophie * 20 Dec '00

20 Dec '00

* as *sir* cliff crooned, christmas is love christmas is peeeeace a time for haaading and fiiiiiiiiiding to ceeeeeease * * * aaah yes, chrissmouse is upon us, in all her splendour (is christmas a lady? hmmm). mmmmm mice pies ooh! *mince* pies, i meant. although brambly hedge's christmas special last year really was quite something. hands up who's going home for chrissmass then? feel a bit miffed as can't go home for 'x'mas as already am at home. thinking perhaps should go and stay in a cold student house with grotty kitchen for a week for a change of scene. i would like to know whatever happened to paper chains? and do they have them in the states too? i so remember being at school, in the magic lead up to chrissmass week, where the whole class would sit at tables, chin-high in sherbert coloured paper strips. wish you could do that at work too. i would like to try the costa cofee winter warmer hot apple spiced drink thing - is it nice? i went ice skating the other day (yes! an open air rink bang smack in the middle of the city - by liverpool st station) but there was nowhere to get hot choc from - imagine! it's a v small rink too, so you're always going in a circle and can't get any speed up or be clever and twisty turny. but it *is* *ace*, and they put this funny trance music on too, which at first is annoying, but then adds to the oddness of the whole thing. along with the sound of the gentle thwack of child on ice - honestly, they hurtle round without any kind of fear whatsoever- skate! thud! skate - teeter - thud! ace. ooh, so i went to the dentists this morning, and it was grrrr-ate! i really, really quite love going to the dentists, and it slightly worries me that i do. i like the smell and the lying down looking at the ceiling bit, and - no, i'll stop there. i forgot to ask him for stickers though, which is annoying. and you know the stuff they make you swill your mouth out with at the end? well they gave me *water*, not that smashing pink stuff. which apparently was originally coloured pink, so you couldn't tell if you were bleeding when you spat the water out! nice. i lament that advent calandars are now *always* choco-late. i liked the ones with glitter and proper windows. i'll go now. but fanks for all being *so* lubby and chrismassy, and to each of you i give a little peck, and some brandy butter, if you like it. hope you all get your heart's desire this chrissmass lots of love and snow angels xxxxsoph (ooh! 'ros and guild are dead' - 'mazing play by tom stoppard, yummy fil-m with gary old-man and tim roth) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: diagnosis: X. seems to have been taken ill of its S. E.
by lisa morrison 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

i can smell it...and i take a long sniff...the smut has died and is rotting on road side like a dead dog...and i play saviour stilletto heel...am being heard again after brief period of bound and gag hush... coffee in this house is cold as a cube...other side of the window is a bed not so warm as the one inside...so i try to stay out of the one outside...and stay in, completely in to the point where i am not only inside of the walls, or inside of room which are inside the walls, or inside of bed which is inside the room that is inside these walls, but inside my body...further inside than the bed or room or walls...it is box within box within box within box and i dwell in the most inner sancutary...the holy place where not even priests can enter...this is the ritual of every winter... honey says things about illustrations and broadways lights and fame... and i quote/unquote "crave attention" as ex of mine has the nerve to declare to me from across bitter coffee stained booth last night in a rather unexpected run-in...in light of this quote/unquote comment and spite enough to bite off my own nose i post and want to be depicted and be famous with DOM.LISA in lights enough to blind all of you... role reversal...lisa's not the one going blind this time (note: content)..nono and i shake my head in matter-of-fact way and toss black curls across my face to confirm this nonononono-ing. quick...someone gag me again and yesyes i nod: this is an invitation! and throw black curls into my eyes again i nod so furiously... but b/f you do so, remember to leave santa polaroids of bedroom rompings instead of milk and cookies this year...the old man is in need of a little spice and i don't mean nutmeg... -lisa (self appointed list dom.) goes good with pa peanutbutter puffs and a pitcher of vodka tonic... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The Draughtsman's Contract
by gogron 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

Dear Sinisterines, I write this to you by candlelight. No powercuts, simply for pleasure. What a release it is not to be working at the moment... to be living a quiet life away, posting a few letters at the local post office; digging a tiny spruce out of the patch of woodland in my parent's back garden and bedecking it with fairy lights; driving to the store and spending ages chopping vegetables, frying things and now late afternoon and a winter stew three hours into its gradual melding of flavours. Actually, it's just turned into a soupy mush, but anyways... I've taken some photos of the back of the house, with a view to designing an extension. The design will be some sort of late extra present for my parents. Away from the 'let's take the shortest easiest cheapest way to keep a client happy and get the fees coming in even if the fees are utterly lousy anyway', I hope to design something that, even if it doesn't get built, I'm actually proud of, for a change. In Glasgow yesterday, I re-visited the exhibition about Scottish Pop currently running in the city's architecture/design centre, and spent 45 mins watching an old BBC Scotland documentary all about Belle and Sebastian. It was great seeing the various members of the band in almost real life. There is this conception that they're twee and geeky, but I thought they looked and sounded like a perfectly normal bunch of Glaswegians. Their shyness is nothing unusual here, and I'd say that together they comprise a wider spectrum of personality types than their media image would imply. There was a thread of cute comic-strip animations describing the development of the band, which reminded me of the little gif animations on the sinister website. I was lying in bed awake all night mentally piecing together how to go about producing such things myself on paintshop pro... it looks time consuming, if you imagine the number of frames involved, and requires a different thought process than that for stills. Strangely, when the alarm sounded at 07:15 after no sleep, I switched it off and almost immediately fell into a semiconcious dream-state. The dream sequences were so hilarious to me I kept bursting out laughing, suppressing this only to see another bizarrely comic sitation, animated, of course. You had to be there, though... the fact that someone at a supermarket check-out buying 200 boxes of chocolate cup cakes is only the most funny thing in the world in a certain state of mind. There was also a bit that was a confusion between a live pop performance in a little stone-walled basement room with an empty swimming pool behind the stage, from which the performer had to be constantly rescued and a raid by the police who find, in an adjoining basement a single CD beneath a barred window and the concert promotors throw their heads up in the air chorusing 'not again'. Weird, but so funny, like the exact opposite of a nightmare. Talking of madness, I went to see the new film version (new to the UK, that is) of Hamlet. 'To be or not to be' is just such a brilliant and totally meaningful soliloquy. The artsy fartsy language may take a few minutes to get the hang of if, like me, you're relatively unfamiliar with Elizabethan English. You'll soon get the gist. It's also fun spotting both phrases and people that have become part of our everyday language, such as (I'd say this as an architect manque)[I was about to quote something along the lines of 'I could live in a nutshell and proclaim myself a King of infinite space, were it not that I had bad dreams' but I've searched for over an hour in the text of the play and can't find it] 'I must be cruel only to be kind' ; 'Get thee to a nunnery'; Ophelia, floating in the pool as in the famous pre-raphaelite painting; or Rosencrantz and Guildenstern [are dead: was that not a broadway play/musical?]. I suppose the rest of you all learn'd this at school... Makes me enthusiastic, though. I'm nae mad, honest! Gordon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: art and german accent
by Tiago Romeu 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

if I'm trying to be the joseph goebbels of this list ? well, can I think a bit before answering you ;) ? I'm glad you answered, really. the point is, there is a difference between an unmade bed and Tigermilk, isn't it ? if it's based on not understanding, than I expose my unmade bed (with nice and green blankets), I call it a master-piece and if you don't like, that's because you don't understand it. that's the easiest way. maybe the point is doing something so weird and meaningless, just to shock and get some attention. and call it art. maybe I don't understand an unmade bed, but I do understand that whatever people understand from it, is less valuable than Belle and Sebastian, for example. I know it's this conviction that made you writing that thesis about Goebbels and the nazi strategy. the context is very important of course, but there are ways to find quality in art independently of its context. the words "roten culture", referred not to the bed, but to all the system in art that mostly hides the good ones behind the socially beautiful ones. that's roten. greetings tiago +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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