December 2000 - Sinister

Sinister: Smut, innuendo, all the usual really...
by Gardiner, Stuart 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

Well I would give a detailed, objective yet somehow personalised account of the Baxendale gig, but I won't because I couldn't hear a thing. So I spent half the gig chatting to various delightful sinisterines instead. Whoever designed the PA in that place should be shot. So Bax-haters, you should have come along, you couldn't tell what they were playing anyway... (And I didn't get one of the CDs :-( ) After the gig, we adjourned to the nearest pub (obviously), notable for the slowest Guiness service EVER, and sat round a table talking shite (obviously). And Carsmile kept accusing me of being a tart, which I completely deny. After all, I wasn't the one offering kisses to anyone who wanted one... Mmmmm, cheap Turkish beer... Anyway, before you all get to enjoy your Christmas stuffing and wrapped sausages (personally I prefer plenty of sauce), I leave you with this random and completely irrelevant fact: Pythagoras' theorem : 24 Words The Lord's Prayer : 66 Words Archimedes' Principle : 67 Words The 10 Commandments : 179 Words The US Government regulations on the sale of cabbage : 26,911 Words Merry Christmas, see you next year... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: for mike W and tweebunny (and everybody else)
by chris perriman 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

for mike (and anybody who wants to read this i suppose) the gig was in the church of john the baptist on the corner of grainger street and westgate road, next door(ish) to yates's wine lodge and the pub was the head of steam, over the road from the station. the gig on the 28th is at the cluny (opened last year, under the byker bridge and right on the ouseburn, it's a renovated warehouse which is now a venue/bar/cafe/gallery/studio complex and is quite cool) they hold a night called cluny tunes and mos eisley are playing along with sonus and comatose, they are quite a cool band who sound like a cross between supergrass and ash and the rhythm section, jack and jed, are the sons of lindisfarne drummer ray laidlaw. i met them by interviewing them for my short lived internet fanzine venture thing called the hieroglyphic, the interview and a live review are on the internet still i think but i haven't got them anymore coz a virus wiped my hard drive a few months back. i think mos eisley played upstairs at the highbury garage a couple of months back but i'm not that sure, might have been another mos eilsey as the ad in the nme said you should come along, i'll be handing out flyers for my own gig at the tut n' shive on the 4th of january if you're still home but since it's a whistlestop tour you probably won't, oh well. anyone's welcome to come (he said blatantly mis-using the list to advertise his own band) my band's called lola my aura and i'll be dj'ing between bands (also playing are toaster) for tweebunny as newcastle has been voted the 8th best night out in the world you've come to the right place but as glasgow was 6th i think , then maybe you'r taking a step down. for gigs: since the closure of the riverside and the mayfair in the last couple of years, the only place left in town (or toon) for touring bands is the arena (for robbie williams and dteps and their ilk) or the uni for more 'our' sort of band, the uni is the hottest, sweatiest basement in the world but it's worth it to see bands the size of primal scream on a tiny stage and within spitting distance. for local bands there are multifarious (what a nice word) pubs around and especially the aforementioned cluny for clubs: the two best indie nights around are stone love @ foundation on thursdays and bulletproof @ rockshots on fridays. both have local superstar dj big niall (think 250 pounds, bald, zztop beard and crutches) but both have regular 'names' like mani, clint boon, gilles peterson, brendan lynch et al playing. and durham has a pretty cool mod night that happens once a month i think. for pubs: basically walk down any street and you'll find one worth mentioning so i won't mention any. except bar oz coz it's got a circular pool table sorry if anybody has read this and thinks they could have spent the time better by excavating their nostrils but i think everybody should visit newcastle at least once in their lives coz it's just so fab and groovy so i'll end on a song in the deep mid winter frosty winds made moan earth stood hard as iron water like a stone snow had fallen snow on snow sno-ow o-on snow in the deep mid winter lo-o-ong ago i love that song but frozen water and snow, in israel? even at this time of year i expect it's moderatly mild. see y'all soon pez* ps why won't it snow? it's fricking freezing but no damn snow, it's not fair. pps i've looked for my website but it seems to have disapeared into thin air, maybe i didn't feed it or something, maybe i should start it up again, i still have a paper copy of it so it's just a case of retyping it. oh mike, if you want a copy of the review and interview with mos eisley send me an email and i'll get them to you somehow, ok? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: on having all of my dreams of the past two months rendered worthless
by Phillip Runion 19 Dec '00

19 Dec '00

dear sinister, every now and then you get some really bad news. the gist of it is: How the hell was i to know the trains in england are so fucked up!? This is me pleading: Is anyone even close to london drivung up towards anywhere even remotely outside of edinburgh, and could i please be given a ride? I would be oh! so greatful. all i could really offer in return is to pay for the petrol and a stop at a diner, or something, and hopefully, pleasent car company. it would literally mean everything to me. with all of my fingers and toes crossed, phillip runion _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: juice by sinister
by Jeanette 18 Dec '00

18 Dec '00

Howdy, kids. Anybody wanna buy me a new car for Christmas? I thought not. My ancient Honda died this morning. Things could be worse, I suppose. The lady who almost ran over me as I was walking down the highway shoulder *was* nice enough to move over a few inches to avoid hitting me. And she even stopped and gave me a lift to the nearest phone, apologizing profusely the entire way. Yeah, so ... no more Christmas shopping this year! Afraid all my dough will be going to the mechanic. And the only pressie I've purchased thus far was for my SweetLittleBabyNephew. We saw "Requiem for a Dream" this weekend, and, afterwards, he just *had* to have the soundtrack. Which brings us to the point of this post: Can any of you music addicts tell me anything about Pop Will Eat Itself? I know they've been around for a long time, but I don't recall ever actually listening to them. Clint Mansell has made some lovely, haunting sounds for "Requiem." And, I think he did the music for "Pi," too, which was quite tasty. Guess he must be buds with that Aronofsky fella, eh? Merry Christmas, everybody. (And Happy Hannukah to Eran, if he's still around.) Holiday hugs, Jeanette Personal P.S.s: Hey, Cowboy! I've not forgotten you. I'll write soon. Steve C.: Middle-aged!?! Well, I may be old, but I still have good taste ... and I need your address so I can order that CD. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: art and pop
by Tiago Romeu 18 Dec '00

18 Dec '00

> >>Pop Music cannot be fully debated and defended since it's >>roots are in money and the blooming media. It's based in luxuries not >>necessities. > > not only, but also, I suppose. today, pop is a bit more than that. if you tune your radio randomly and your a song you've never heard, you can say if it's pop music, even if you don't know by who and why it was made. it's a bit more about forms rather than intentions. but I repeat : not only money and blooming media, but also that. >true...but then again, this could apply to any art form. i'm sure i don't >need to point out that "art" as we know it today is largely a question of >having your work stamped with approval from the correct source, of getting >your work to a gallery... (puts on his reactionary hat) when someone can >exhibit an unmade bed and be one of the frontrunners for the turner prize >(yes, yes, i know that anything can be art but once you've had duchamp >exhibiting a urinal and manzoni canning and selling his own shit that point >has pretty much been made) and countless other people die in obscurity that >shows how that game is one of luck, and being discovered. > and unmade bed it's NOT art and can NEVER be art, even if there's a whole art gallery or museum, full of so-called artists or art critics waving their hands in ecstasy, praising the slob for its genious. roten culture, where art depends on whom you sleep with. >the same can apply to any other form of art you choose to focus on. yes, >there's plenty of it about, and those that are successful are frequently >those that least deserve to be, but art is always going to be based in >luxuries, not necessities... and its always going to be defined to some >extent by pennies.. does this make all art undiscussable? > no. I'm sorry, I have to ask. what is that PE you talk so much about ? and jello's great and funny and drunk, but I still like him. greetings tiago +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Third Stone From The Sun
by Peter Miller 18 Dec '00

18 Dec '00

SHUFFLE IN THE GRAVEL First of all, I feel the time has come to point out that I was "in character" when I said I like having a ham shandy along to "Beyond the Sunrise". I'm sure that Stevie's gruff and manly tones would...erm... tear my playhouse down before...erm... karma could be achieved. Thanks to Dave for pointing out that botshot of Isobel, I'm going to have to invest in a bigger monitor to truly appreciate it though. OUR PICNICS ARE BETTER THAN YOUR PICNICS So Jordi phones me up and says there's a listee called Dave in town and I thought "Dave Jigsaw!" and immediately put my red jumper on. It wasn't Dave Jigsaw but we had a GRATE picnic anyway with Dave and Molly. We talked about Mr Godfrey's Black Empire, the peculiarly deranged B&S fanbase, the wisdom of not talking to the press, robots, the foul disgustingness of English coffee, airlines, whether Lego is a countable or an uncountable noun (it's countable in America, would you bloody credit it?), the NME's NME-centric worldview and some other things. A conversation about football was brewing in my head ("so Jordi, what do you think of Barcelona these days?") but I didn't have chance to unleash it. Perhaps it would have felt more urgent if Barcelona had done anything spectacularly bad lately, but they've been almost acceptable. Dave unwittingly made me homesick by using the word "mardy". We were just beginning to get in the swing of things when I had to shoot off and see Nurse Betty. TORTELVIS WILL NOW TALK ABOUT CHRITMAS ALBUM....CHRITMAS ALBUM? The NME website features reviews of the crappy Jeepster Christmas album and The Clientele's gig in wherever it was last Tuesday. They make them sound like a shoegazing band. In fact I think they just took an old review of a shoegazing band and changed the name. But some of you might be interested. You never know. Peter PS: What's Santa bringing you all for Christmas - a sore helmet? PPS: Did Edna Welthorpe rate Nurse Betty higher than Charlie's Angels? I did. Do. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #343 (Josh Baze Out of Office)
by Josh Baze 18 Dec '00

18 Dec '00

I am out of the office the week of December 18th, returning to the office December 27th. If your message requires immediate attention, please call 816/842-1500 and ask for Sean Beste or Ros Fettig, either of whom should be able to help you. Thank you. Best wishes for Happy Holidays. Josh +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Drunk in the snow
by elenita99 18 Dec '00

18 Dec '00

*I like Peter Miller Cos he wears a red jumper* This is my poetic contribution of the month. And he does, really, there are witnesses. Hello Lovely List, Well it's Monday. But it's ok as it is the last one before I fly home for Christmas. Then it will be some days of food, pressies and cuddles until I travel to London in order to get drunk with some fellow listees. Woohoo. I like holidays. The week end was fun. My flatmate got drunk on Saturday night and vomited in the bathroom I had just cleaned. Then on Sunday I finally managed to finish the pressie shopping. And then I had a little pik-nik with Jordi, Mr Peter, and David and Molly (visiting from England and USA, respectively). We had coffee and/or beer and didn't talk about football. We talked about B&S gossips (don't ask me I won't tell you eh eh), so it was funnier than football. At least for me ;) Thanks to Jordi I went to see the Flaming Lips this week. The gig was really good, and pretty funny too as the band spent their time throwing balloons and fake snow at us. You can�t really resist to play with fake snow and balloons, can you? Well at least I can�t. Thanks to our VIP tickets we went after the gig to a little room where we were offered food and wine. I think I was slightly drunk after a little while, so I kept playing in the snow and dancing and I am sure no one noticed ;) Tomorrow night I am having my Xmas dinner with my flatmates. We will eat a lot and drink a lot too, but only good wine and fine champagne, you see. And good food of course, each of us is cooking a part of the dinner. How fun is life with funny flatmates. Oh and also we get little presents :) I like Christmas. I think I like it even more in Barcelona as it is still around 15�c, and all bright and sunny as ever. I hope you are all as excited about as me and that you will have a great great Christmas. Don�t drink-and-drive and take care Elena ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: ...must...stop....drinking....soon...
by Stephen Hewitt 18 Dec '00

18 Dec '00

oh my aching liver. Christmas, eh? Just an excuse to get pished all weekend i reckon. Unlike Mr Moore, I managed to arrive at the Bull & Gate just in time to see the pines leave the stage, which was a shame, but the rest of the evening was GRATE. Much nattering and discussion of the end of the maker, and certain styooooodents getting (many) drinks bought for them by older men, along with dancing to a rather sub-standard disco, better than no disco though. To add to Dave's list of those in attendance Mr Hopkins and Martini Robinson were also "in tha house". Then it was back to rotherhide in a minicab, discussing the relative merits of madonna, michael jackson and whitney houston with a very friendly driver. Saturday started with a greasy spoon (mmmmmm, bubble and squeak), and then eventually on to Notting Hill, for the Bax (a band who seem to divide this list into lovers and haters, more than any other apart from possibly radi*head). Listees present included The Pinefox, Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, GlamPam, Lixi, Mark Hester, Dafyd Strange, Big Stu (back from peru), The delightful Ms Mcarthur, and, making a comeback more surprising than lazarus, KEVAN COOKE. Later on we were also joined by Sally M and Joey Reynolds. I was also accosted by Paul from Strange Fruit who informed me that they have a picture of me dancing (quelle surprise) at the last Strange Fruit which they are going to put on their website, but which isn't there yet cos i've just had a look. The bax were unfortunately marred by the sound system, which would have shamed a school disco (I blame alan mcgee myself), but the sharing of pressies and free cds with the audience more than made up for it, well that and the eleventeen bottles of Troy (so flavourless, yet so alcoholic). Despite the fact that no one came up to me to claim their prize (a misguided idea of mine in the first place i think), the prizes were still handed out liberally, i gave kisses to a lot of the people who were there**. The good thing about gigs in notting hill for me is i can get on the red bus back to oxford from notting hill gate, thus eliminating the need for late nite pissed up tube journeys, which are never pleasant. **I'd like to point out that these were Hershey's chocolate kisses and not snogs or anything, oh no, that's right out. Then last nite I went to mrs carsmile's xmas work do, which was rather fun, although i may have had one long island iced tea too many... so now i'm going to sit at my desk and do as little as possible this afternoon, then go home and get some sleep. Oh no, i've just remembered I'm meant to be going to see terrorvision tonight, the horror... xoxo CarsmileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Less Chatter, More Music
by Jordi Trenzano 18 Dec '00

18 Dec '00

Oh, dear......how happy I was thinking that my list became extremely famous.......but it was just because the hidden Isobel-mania that emerges on sinister. Come on people, P.Miller made the first step confessing his "manual feelings" about "Beyond the sunrise". ItŽs hard to find worst samples, but iŽm sure there are. > For those of you who prefer to have something to look at whilst, er, concentrating, on Beyond The Sunrise: I guess I wasn't specific enough about how to see The Gents photos before. Sorry. Go to http://www.egroups.com/files/segundosdeluz/ > > where you will find two folders full of pictures. (You will also need to sign in to eGroups & join the list.) For those of you who do that, iŽd like to deny the rumours that Isobel is the hidden moderator of my list. I hope you enjoy the pics, thatŽs all. And I have been told I look like Stevie Jackson. Ummmmmmmmm. I know many of you are missing my dear cat Rosseta. SheŽll be back, I promise. Love and purrrrrrrrs Jordiet Sinistre ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname(a)nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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