June 2000 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Brand New Twee
by Grant Bennett 23 Jun '00

23 Jun '00

Hello, all. Second post ever, for those of you keeping score at home. Virtually no B&S content, but this does have BS firmly in hand. I don't know if anyone has mentioned this or not, but I've spotted the word twee in a... well, while not mainstream, prominent website. You can see it here: http://www.theonion.com/onion3623/summer_reading.html Enjoy yourselves, and each other. -- Grant ---------------------------------- Download ICQ at http://www.icq.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Uk listees...Helloooo...
by Vilkas D'Angelo-Horvath 23 Jun '00

23 Jun '00

This is for you UK listees, moreso in Scotland. As of Monday I'll be able to say "I just flew in and boy are my arms tired". Ok then. Hello, this is Vilkas. FYI, age 25 (ok, 26 in a month) female; music fan and fellow listee. This is either list abuse or list furthering...? Well, self furthering anyway. Hugs and chocolate for amusing me. I hope I'm not asking too much. Folks, I'll be in Glasgow (Strathclyde Uni & Glasgow Art School/Garnet Hill area) and around Scotland for 6 weeks. (graduate art school, yaaay!). Then onto Ireland then onto Wales then onto London then onto England then back to Glasgow then to the airport. I will be a girl on the move. I will be reachable by e-mail until I find out my phone number. Replying to this address or loulouhex(a)hotmail.com will get me. Probably the 2nd one. Also if you're gonna write, carbon copy it to louloux(a)badtzmail.com. I'm not sure why these addresses break down, but they do sometimes. So...who wants to go do something? TinthePark meetup? Dancing? Picnic? Um...Rock show? Art Gallery? Drinking? Little bit of Nature Expedition? I dunno. Something. Anyone got the scoop on renting a mobile phone for two or three months? Again, thanks. Also anyone got any places where I should go in any & all these places. Also, any travel agent style stuff from anyone anywhere? Um...still haven't packed my suitcase, but I found my passport. Not so bad & VERY good. Looking forward to everything, liking my sugar with coffee and cream, Vilkas P.S. Anyone know Laughlin McLaughlin (his real name) or his friend Mark from Paisley? Again thanks for amusing me. Or something. Midlands Picnic? Hmmm...Never been to England...hmmmm....:). And Heathrow Airport doesn't count. Love to go places I've never been. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: vine-ill (list abuse!)
by adam apparatus 23 Jun '00

23 Jun '00

ok, i know i've been posting quite a lot, but then again sinister's been a little quiet... anyway. i got the new dirty three album on vinyl... very good, by the way, a new highwater mark for them (but then again, each new release for them is better than the last) . i ordered it from insound (one of the most wonderful stores in the world... www.insound.com .) also, it's a limited edition colored vinyl... which i didn't expect! finally, this is my very first vinyl purchase -- i recently decided to start buying in vinyl, but i don't know much about it. here's my problem: when i put the record on the turntable, and start it going, there's one area on the edge that goes up a little... like the record's warped. i thought it was the turntable, but it doesn't have this problem with other records. this is my dad's turntable, so he set the weight on the needle, but the d3 record skips at that spot unless i turn up the weight, which i'd rather not do, of course. (this only happens at the beginning of the first song; after the first song, i turn the weight down again.) a friend of mine said "that's just the way records are", but i have 20 year old records that don't have this problem! i would contact insound, but i don't want to be a pain.. so i thought i'd be a pain here. any vinyl-crazy sinistrals able to answer my question? is this a standard record thing, or should i complain and ask for a replacement? it worries me a little... oh yes, and buy the new dirty three, everyone! it's called "whatever you love you are", and has some gorgeous editing... three warrens isn't enough, as far as i'm concerned... anyway, thanks for suffering through.. - adam aconover(a)optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: For What its worth...
by Rachel Taylor 23 Jun '00

23 Jun '00

With all this talk lately of everyone's favorite and least favorite songs I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in. I would have to say that Lazy Line Painter Jane is my favorite song and Fox in the Snow is the one I could do without. That's all- not that anyone cares, just thought I'd say. Raye +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Thunderclap Bloody Newman
by Iain Radcliffe 23 Jun '00

23 Jun '00

Good evening, Im listening to an album called The Hangmans Beautiful Daughter by weird sixties folk outfit The Incredible String Band. The best track comes in at a modest 13 mins 5 secs, but the sitar wig-outs and running water noises are starting to do my head in. Sample lyrics: Dont worry we wont send anyone After you they screamed But me and licorice saw the Last of them one Misty twisty day Across the mournful Morning moor motoring Away Singing ladybird ladybird What is your wish ? Your wish is not granted Unless its a fish Your wish is not granted Unless its a dish A fish on a dish is that What you wish ? I believe some people ingested copious quantities of naughty things called drugs in those days. The bands name that was bugging me at the Embra picnic whilst drunk was of course Thunderclap Newman if anyone cares. It seemed rather trivial the next day in the cold light of a hangover. Rafe Dewar: I do indeed know you, and you still have spookily good taste it would seem. Pint in the Tams sometime ? Id like to add my vote to the Electronic Renaissance: Good; Waiting for the Sunrise: Baaaaad camp. Ive been a bit wary of throwing in my tuppence on the new album, because I dont want to cause strife. But fuck it, heres my tuppence for what its worth -(2p). I think FISHYCLAP is WELL below par. And I wanted it to be ace as much as anyone, so its doubly disappointing. Tracks 1,2 and 5 are v. good but not excellent or B & S classics. I fear the rest ranges from pleasant to mediocre to cringeworthy. Sorry. For me, the new album shows just how good TWATTYBUS actually is. Some brilliant numbers, plenty of top notch solid tunes and the worst ones are still pretty good. I dont necessarily blame the co-operative songwriting policy. I think Stu M has certainly lost his magic touch at the moment and I hope its merely been misplaced. Heres to album 5 showing a return to Tigermilk/IYFS quality to break the downward spiral. I hope its not just the age-old pop story of artists losing their immediacy and the nebulous quality which makes them so initally compelling when they have too much time and cash and comfort pissing around in the studio. Bit much content methinks. Good to see my perennially favourite football teams Portugal and Romania doing so well. Congrats chaps and good luck. Amy J: Ill write soon promise. I remain forever your friendly neighbourhood Jarvis xxx Im as serious as cancer when I say Rhythm is a dancer. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: What Giita Told Peter (and Everybody Else)
by Peter Miller 22 Jun '00

22 Jun '00

The cover girls are in a band called MUM and they go to Giita's college. Their band has a website: http://www.oz.is/thulemusik/artists/mum.html I also know something else about one of them, but it's a secret. They're Icelandic, not Swedish. It's an easy mistake to make, both countries are of viking descent-ish, and they both have a kind of food in their name. That is all. Except, what happened to Virgin France? Did they dump B&S? Or vice versa? Just wondering. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Cover Grrrrls - Re: Adam
by Joey . 22 Jun '00

22 Jun '00

Hello everyone :) Adam was asking if the girls on the cover of Fishyclaps were in a sweedish pop band. I think (I am probably wrong) that they are from Iceland, and are in a band. I think they are signed to Fat Cat. I am really sorry but I am not sure of the name of the band at all. :( I will try to find out. I have been told but I am silly and I can't remember a lot about what my friend said at all. I will ask her and then post again. By then someone else will have answered anyway... Take Care, Lots of Love, Jo x ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Amphetameanies news- debut album and launch party
by Mick Cooke 22 Jun '00

22 Jun '00

The Amphetameanies' debut album, 'Right Line in Nylons', is released on Monday the 3rd July. In the UK, there's an initial run of 1000 on CD, there's also a vinyl-only release in Germany. There's a launch party in King Tut's this coming Saturday: Saturday 24th June 2000 King Tut's Wah Wah Hut St Vincent Street Glasgow Support from Bombskare, a ten-piece ska band from Edinburgh. Entry £4 in advance, £5 at the door. Doors open 9pm. We also have 100 'Hamfetabeanie' sandwiches to give away! (on a first come first serve basis) More details of the album and MP3 samples are on the website, Cheers, Mick http://www.amphetameanies.co.uk mailing list: http://amphetameanies.listbot.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: mirrors are for pansies
by adam apparatus 22 Jun '00

22 Jun '00

hello all. i haven't posted in a dreadfully long time, but i finally got through all my back messages... i think that the fishyclap problem is quite a humdrum conundrum... it makes perfect sense to me. obviously it's not an -actual- mirror, because the girls are not identical. but that's fine. it's supposed to look like a mirror, sort of. you can tell because the angry girl's book title is -reversed-. so we're supposed to -pretend- that it's a mirror. now, as to the heavy eye-makeup... it's quite plainly a girl looking in the mirro and seeing the "dark side" of herself, which is why the angry girl looks so angry, and the sweet girl looks a little scared. of course, b+s doesn't mind that it's obvious that it's not a mirror -- i'm sure that was part of their plan in the first place. i also must say that both girls are really quite attractive. are they really in a swedish pop band? mrowr. - adam aconover(a)optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: They (Didn't) Do It With Mirrors
by Will Salt 22 Jun '00

22 Jun '00

This is my first post after leaving the nursary, which explains why none of you know who I am. I know all the talk on "how did they do that cover image" relating to FYC... has died now, but I still wanted to weigh in with my own opinion on the subject, because, several years ago, I tried taking a similar series of pictures myself. Studying for a GCSE in photography, I was assigned the subject "Distortion" for a picture series, and had the (presumably unoriginal) idea of photographing someone looking in the mirror, with somebody else's face looking out. I set up some white backgrounds (actually, a spare display board and the wall of a corridor), hung a mirror on the wall, and found a chair. After a bit of adjustment so that I could see model's face directly (from the side) and in the mirror (full-frontal), without seeing any nasty shadows, or myself or the camera in the mirror, I rounded up everyone in my photography class, plus anyone who walked past (several art teachers and a bewildered First-Year Kid), sat them down in front of the mirror and took their picture. Afterwards, I printed the best pictures (being careful to give them all the same enlargement), then carefully cut out the mirror from some of them. I set up a DIY repro-stand by dismantling my tripod and reassembling it upside-down, then carefully placed the cut-out mirrors over the complete photographs before taking a copy photo. On the resulting print, there was no trace of any alteration. It took a bit longer than it probably would today with Photoshop -- about an hour for the shoot, then four or five in the dark room -- but messing around with chemicals was far more satisfying. I was very disappointed, though, by the reaction I got. "It's a trick angle," everyone said, "the man in the mirror is behind the camera." Unhappy, I never finished the project and only printed one of the final "composite" pictures. Anyway, having said all that, I'd like to point out that it's easy to prove that the FYC... cover was done with two different people, rather than with a mirror and tricky editing. I don't think anybody pointed this out: the shadows give it away. From the visible shadows, both figures are lit by two lamps, both from the bottom right. If a mirror were there, the reflected figure would appear to be lit from the other direction. In addition, the shadow of the real-world book could not fall on the mirror-world person if this person was just a reflection. I also think that real-world book is too far to the left, and would hit the mirror, but that's a bit hard to judge. Of course, the paranoid might like to speculate that the shadows were deliberately painted in afterwards. Note that if you magnify the mirror-world girl's left eye, the resulting image also proves that the moon landings were faked :-) Anyway, as this is a delurk, here's some incidental information about myself. Name: Will. Age: 22. Living in: Edinburgh. I lurked on sinister for about a year, back in 1997 (in the days of its ed.ac.uk address), but unsubscribed as I was going away on a field trip. I never rejoined, until the other week. Occupation: student of archaeology (my degree result is released next week). Likes: staying in bed. Doesn't like: having to get out of bed. Which reminds me: I Fought In A War (no, not *me*). The line "beyond the bedsit infamy of the decade gone before" reminded me of the review of IYFS printed in the Guardian newspaper, which (IIRC) said that they sounded as if they hardly ever left their bedsit (or words to that effect). I remembered it, because that was the first time I heard about B+S. Can't help wondering if it's deliberate or coincidental. Ta-taa, Will S -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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