July 2000 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: the hickey underworld
by Steven Kado 31 Jul '00

31 Jul '00

one can always count on stephen hewitt to bring up hag eels again....i'm sure he keeps a whole bunch of them around in a 'pleasure tank' in his velvet lined basement...oh my! i used the quadratic formula today! and i don't take math and havn't taken math for some 2 years now! woo! i did have to look it up in a book but at least i knew what to do with it and knew that i needed to know it to solve the problem i was faced with... you see i'm building a couch. i've been studying architecture at summer school here and i've gotten all excited about building, but since a whole building is completely beyond me i'd start with a couch. also i need a new couch as my existing one is completely fucked up. and you need the quadratic equation to work out some of the couch math you'll have to do. i'll also need to use trigonometry soon too, so we'll see how sharp i really am. i've more or less finished thinking about it and i'm just straightening things out a bit and looking at the practical attributes of various materials. so far it'll look like a piece of scaffolding cross bred with a shopping cart. and then cushions and hammocks and things. i'm also looking forward to welding! does anyone else on the list weld? i havn't done any of that since grade 12 so i can't wait to get back in the swing of things! oooh welding! and i'm talking about arc welding here, not just scaled up soldering...the real stuff. the stuff that could make you go blind. which is why the church was against it for so long. i believe the first arc welding to ever be used in the construction of a church (excepting frank lloyd wright's unity temple for unitarians) was sometime in the late 70's. serious. the pope can't stand it. oh. also i'm telling lots of complete and utter lies today. also its blueberry season! and i had some corn yesterday. woo! i just thought i'd share. s t e v e +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: columbus, georgia
by brad ! 31 Jul '00

31 Jul '00

hello. my name is brad and i am an acoloholic. i deserted this list long ago in a fit of uncontrolled beligerence on my part. but we'll save that for a rainy day. hello old friends (and foes). sister disco, honey, duke?, whoever else i didn't mention (intentional or not). so who's the new stud in town, huh? i remember when i had the pleasure of wearing the sinister list crush tiara and got the big bouquet of flowers and then northy sang me that moving acapella rendition of nancy sinatra's "sugar town". i'm not ashamed to say i cried. i AM ashamed to say that i hocked the tiara for a bottle of richard's wild irish rose, a pack of kools, and an underage prostitute...but i'm over it now. now when i think back i laugh, just like mom reassured me i would. anyway, i have recently moved to this town where i have not met one single solitary person worth my all too valuable time. when i say recently, i mean seven months ago. so what i'm hoping is that someone on this list lives in columbus, georgia, and can clue me in as to where i've gone wrong and why i've only met jarheads and connie primadonnas. if it seems like i'm begging, it's because i am. i should've never left athens, but being a college town, there were no decent jobs to be found. i had to come to this godforsaken town for work. if you live here, email me. i demand it (in a pathetic pleading way). other than my miserable loneliness, everything is as it was. and i hope i can bring this list back to the level of smut it used to be at back in the day. but i'm afraid my picking on isobel's irritable bowels are far behind me. aw, who am i kidding? she'll never fall in love with the likes of me. what have i got to lose. but not tonight. tonight i dance. -brad ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: fido, your leash is too long
by Ronan Barrett 30 Jul '00

30 Jul '00

Not wanting to post the only message that I have written in the last year as it didn't quite take me the 15 minutes to write (it went: "Last night I had my first B&S dream. I dreamt Legal Man wasn't shit."), I decided to wait until I had something positive to say before posting for the first time in a year. So, Stephin Merritt is as much of a genius live as on record. Even if the songs weren't nearly all things of utter beauty, just seeing this odd, serious little man singing "Let's pretend we're bunny rabbits/Let's do it all day long" would put a smile on anyone's face. Even the venue was great, nice leather seats to fall into for a prematurely old fogey like myself who likes his comfort at gigs. I'm sure non-believers here are getting tired of hearing this at this stage, but do buy 69 Love Songs please. 6 months on, I still listen to this as much as the great one-month old Badly Drawn Boy LP and the sadly patchy "Fold Your Hands.." £16 or so for 3 CDs has to be worth a chance. By the way, if anyone out there has a tape of the Birmingham gig Stephin played do let me know and I'll swap you for my friend's soul or something. See ya Ronan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Anchovy Dreams & Other Good Things
by Rachel Taylor 30 Jul '00

30 Jul '00

Hello List! Everyone seems to be a bit moody lately, hmm? The list has been reading like a cloudy day, forecasts of gloom. Have you ever felt like you were stuck being a character in a poorly written, poorly acted, foreign film? That is how I have felt the past few weeks. I can't quite put my finger on why exactly, but everything just feels so vague, and murky. I go through the day in sort of a daze, always with this feeling that something monumental and interesting is getting ready to happen and then it doesn't, so I start again the next day. It isn't really a bad feeling, I'm not complaining- it just feels off kilter, like I am wearing someone else's life. I have been having this one dream over and over again, with some variation. It isn't really a Belle and Sebastian dream per se, although they play in the background- it isn't about them. In my dream I am always at home half asleep in new pajamas (one of my favorite things) and the phone rings. I answer it and it is this boy I love (who doesn't exist in real life) and he wants me to come over. Which thrills me, even though I know it isn't smart to go over so late, I don't want him to get the wrong idea, you know. So I kind of put him off a bit- ask him why I need to go over there. And he gets all desperate sounding and starts talking about how much he needs more of the gourmet anchovies I gave him before. And so I go and rummage through my cupboard and I get all stressed out looking for this one particular kind of tin of special anchovies. And I have all these regular tins of anchovies, and even gourmet tins of special sardines, and in some dreams I have a few tins of gourmet anchovies but they are never the right variety, never the ones he wants, and so the dream always ends with me staring into this cabinet all upset because if I just had the right kind of anchovies I could have the man of my dreams, but I don't have them so he won't ever be mine. The weird thing (aside from the obvious) is that I have never eaten an anchovy or sardine to my knowledge. I have most certainly never purchased any kind of tin of them, but most definitely not a Gourmet tin. None of my dream interpretation books mention tins of fish, so I am at a loss. Maybe I should buy a few, just in case...I mean what if Mr. Right were to come calling? I just really needed to share that with someone whose facial expressions or snide remarks I can't see or hear. Thanks. Rachel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The self-referential society (do not read if you value your sanity)
by Alasdair Cook MC1996 30 Jul '00

30 Jul '00

The spirit of rock 'n' roll is alive and well, and it is dedicated to the first Sugercubes album. Where were YOU in '89? Have you ever dedicated an ideaological way of life to such a transitory item as a pop record? It seems churlish to me, but then perhaps I am not sufficiently imbued with the ghosts of The Camden Falcon. Or even The Spreadeagle, stretching the point somewhat, at such times as certain unknown (but no less - or, perhaps perversely - more important) pop icons have graced it's hallowed bar stools with their messy-haired presence. Perhaps pop should not be dedicated to aspects of life, instead we should postulate the theory that pop music IS life itself. Every intonation of the picking hand fires the imagination, especially when said player is of sufficient talent to rise above even his or her band-mates (good as they may be) and lift otherwise pleasant songs to stratospheres as yet uncharted. My God, he plays it BETTER LIVE! Contained within even the most basic of lyrical movements, something will stir the belly of one small boy, who watches, and dreams, or doesn't dream, but does. What was the first song YOU ever wrote? Dreams are never meant to be real, though. He dreamt of adoring crowds and all he got was this lousy quiff. Waiting for the more important to soundcheck. Going nowhere to most folks, travelling at light-speed to others. Perahps they cancel each other out and he ends up back where he started, confused, but happy. And with the memories. Where were YOU in '99? Some people even find love through pop music. He met a girl. She moved away. He wrote a song. He went to find her. He would have swum the ocean, but a plane was more convenient, and much less tiring. They flaunted their imperfections at each other, and were happy for a while. Some things ARE more important. A snapshot of his life was all he ever gave them, but the flash didn't wake them up, it was the music that did that. The music of someone he loved. They went to the park. Someone, somewhere, caught a bus. Alasdair Cook is out at the moment. Please leave a message after the tone. Beeep... xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: overanalysis
by n|ck g 29 Jul '00

29 Jul '00

i have been on this list for a little bit now and read almost every posting, as i have nothing really to do all day at work. i have never posted but i have noticed a trend to the postings. almost all of them are extremely fun to read but once in a while a few individuals - to remain nameless - get stuck on a subject and feel the need to completely over analize it; beating mercilously till there is no need to bludgen it anymore and then kicking it a few more times. two cases in point. the word "fey" and the subject matter of "pink floyd" (sp?) if one were to have a question on the meaning of a word, wouldn't it be easier to just look it up in the dictionary? i mean he was using the word incorectly anyways. on the subject of pink floyd: why are we talking about such things in the first place? i appologize to anyone that i might have offended. this in no way is a malicious email to anyone. i greatly enjoy 99% of the postings. keep it real. nw ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: from Banchory, Banchory & Barnes
by gogron 29 Jul '00

29 Jul '00

Fellow Sinistreens, This is my first posting to the sinister mailing list. I will, therefore, briefly introduce myself. My name is Gordon, I am 29 and work as an 'architect' (final examinations lurk... it takes ages to become one) in Scotland. If I am known at all to readers of this list, it is under the indulgently pompous persona of 'Rousseau' in the associated chatroom. The grandiloquent ellipticality demonstrated there to occassionally controversial effect does actually have some of the 'real me' in it, so if you can't stand Rousseau, then you know whose posts to skip! Belle and Sebastian I'm currently enjoying the *Tigermilk* album. I'm still not sure about the suitability of the lyrics, largely sighs over things not going quite right, and the music, which is winsome and jaunty. A more comprehensive companionableness is offered, I suppose: sympathy in the under-par times and happy if you are. For example, the notes upon which this email is based were written one sunny lunchtime to which it played as a perfect soundtrack. It should be said that I'm skirting only on a superficial critique of an album that all of you know very well. I don't wish to be impertinent in seeming to 'sum up' the album as 'not a dull track on it/love it to bits' but you get the gist of my affection for the band and its output and, dare I admit it, I only bought *Tigermilk* a couple of days ago. I bought *If You're Feeling Sinister* in 1996, Virgin Records, Oxford Street. With reference to a recent posting, nobody's arm was on fire at the time. It was on one of the listening posts, I donned the headphones, fancied the girl on the cover, thought 'this is a breath of fresh air' and made the purchase. I also liked the song titles and especially the descriptive bit on the back,which is indicative of the particularly engaging style of Belle and Sebastian and, I think more significantly, the whole culture surrounding them: I like the people that like them. The Religion Thread My standing on the matter (for what it's worth) is this: One should first of all distinguish between the concepts of religion as it pertains to the functioning of a society and as it intimates the spiritual. Religion is, in the first sense, a vehicle for the dissemination of rules and aspirations of and for behaviour such that a society might progress along a traditional path. To disagree with religion here is to posit an anarchic potential or else is an explicit preference for an alternative societal model, such as secularism. In the second sense, religion offers a shared framework for experiencing the potential of life beyond the concepts established within mundane experience. To disagree with this is either to suggest that beyond mundane experience is nothing or to put that aspect of one's existence in an inexpressably personal form. I reckon it is possible to further analyse specific acts in the first category, and beliefs in the second in order to establish, respectively, their desireability and truth. The above stance precludes me from being either 'for' or 'against' religion as a hermetic and monolithic entity. Stop Press Fold yer hands, child, is currently available from Sainsbury's supermarket at £9.99 a pop. Another Concert I recently attended a small pop concert in Edinburgh, at a good venue called *the Attic*. I was thinking of writing a little review of it for you lot, being pop fans and all, but my mind wandered somewhat, to the effect below... by the way, I use non-prose writing when it comes naturally. I make no claims for it: songs from the Attic (an architectural term in two etymological senses and ... with love to Athens) were I to say the whine of feedback makes my day:- and the beer-soaked dinky wee floor; cigarette butts galore, was an aesthetic pre-amble, then:- need I say more? some people want catharsis; some spread their arms wide, some are happy; -to be part of it- others hide. Some pose Expectantly, because it is what they are accustomed to, and all around is noise; musical noise of the rock-god whore. 'STARSKY': the band, starts with a slow number:- lots of phased guitar. A soundless, sweaty clap at the end reminds me of speechless, sweaty dancing, leaden drums offering the lumpen rhythmic cue, to the love of my lost teenage angst; the inarticulate passion that, inexpressible and unactable I rationed out I did not even want Except for the feeling: I want that feeling again As always for a first post, one is anxious about all that one does and says, but in reading your own posts I have felt companionship, comfort, amusement and occasional reading, which is something I've enjoyed so far. I look forward to being part of that. Gordon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: For to be a ladybird, what a wonderful thing to be.
by Redmond Tully 29 Jul '00

29 Jul '00

I don't post very often (I've only ever posted twice), but I've just had an irresistable urge to post for some reason. This may have coincided with me starting to listen to FYHCYWLAP a lot again, I don't know. I broke up with my girlfriend last week, but it was a relief in a way, it was definitely for the best. This might be why I was listening to FYHCYWLAP again, I think that b&s's songs can fit more or less any mood perfectly and the slightly reflective mood I've been in this week is fitted better than most. I'm relatively excited about music at the moment too, my Reading ticket and free tickets to see doves and jj72 arrived this week and my Radiohead tickets arrived last week. Anyway, I'd better stop this drivel, I'll speak to you all again soon, Bye, Redmond ps. I've heard a rumour of a b&s night at the star & garter in Manchester soon, if anyone knows where it is, can they mail me with the details (red.tully(a)nme.com) because I've not been to one yet and I really want to go. "When routine bites hard and ambitions are low, love will tear us apart" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: lazy lying panting jonny
by jonnyfive 29 Jul '00

29 Jul '00

sini (again) the lady i was telling you about just walked in on me and a 'colleague' bitching about her in hushed voices. did she know we were talking about her? she mumbled something about coming in to look at a postcard and zoomed out. part of me feels like i'm still at school and she's a teacher who caught me writing a nasty poem about her in a rough book, but part of me feels like an growed-up who has the right to bitch about someone who has been horrible to me. me and my work-mate went into town and it really started to rain when i got back. felt slightly fuzzy and headed back to work, avoiding all eye-contact with Mme. X (as we shall call her). i think i will be called in for a telling off later by the boss, which is fine because then i can get the boss to have a bitch about Mme. X with me and i'll feel happy. sorry to tell you all my tittle-tattle, i'm just a bit worried if i'm honest. To quote the late, great philosopher, Des'ree, "Life, oh life, oh li-i-i-iife, oh life, do-do-do-do". love j.xxx _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: child, your peasant walk you fold, a-hands
by jonnyfive 29 Jul '00

29 Jul '00

dear sini, well, the fearsome debate my 'you're just a baby is crap' post set off has knocked me sideways. the bulge of my mailbox has shocked me into catatonia. and as for the number of will mellor fans on sinister... who would have guessed. i am at work again today and one of the ladies who i don't get on with 'threw a mental' to be technical about it. she screwed up my tea list, and hissed 'i will not fall out over THIS', and stormed off like a member of the SS marching into poland. so i have been sent upstairs to be away from her and everyone is discussing it i think. it's the most interesting thing to have happened all week. so, the NHS. labour's new plan: good or bad? i think any increase in staff and organisation merits a tick in the 'good' box, but using the private sector gets a les dennis 'i-urr'. diane abbot MP said that the gov. has had 3 years and a 170 seat majority and it still hasn't repealed section 28, and i think the same thing can be said about sorting out health. they're more concerned with the daily mail than with anything important. when they starting sticking the boot into refugees i wanted to go out onto the street and sick up my lungs as a protest. i fumed instead. sorry to everyone in the US who cares less than zero to quote Brett E.E. about the minutae of british politics. content: libraries aren't mentioned quite as much in B&S as you'd think, which makes me sad. i gave my friend a tape of B&S to go on holiday with and i'm desmond to find out if he liked it or not. the wait, a bit like the crapness of life, continues... hope everyone waiting for a-level results is as calm and NOT nervous as i am, hem hem. love to all j.xxx 8 mins again. _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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