October 2001 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: if you don't cry, you just don't feel it deep enough...
by nafees saeed 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

so today, after college... i got invited to this place called 'bucks'. bucks is a dive. the sign outside is really bad. it's all crumbly and the windows are all boarded up. i don't know anyone properly at college so i said i'd only be drinking cokes... but they baught me silly alchopops. so i drank alchopops. lots of them. they're so crap. so after my umm...seventh i'm drunk. i started talking to everyone and apparently i bumped into some bloke and told him to fuck off. so as i leave he comes after me and punches the wall and threatens to 'do me in'. me being very scared apologised profusely and he jumps on me. luckily he didn't actually do any damage. all his friends pull him off me and apologise to me. i didn't know what to do. so i asked him if his hand is ok, after all he punched a wall and his friend told me to go before he 'did me in'. so to conclude, me being completely silly apparently managed to annoy a lot of people who apparently were going to 'do me in'. ack well. i only wanted a coke. i feel bad now. on the bus home, one of the people i went with told me it was actually him who told the guy to fuck off, not me. i got angry and got off one stop before my normal stop and walked home. in the rain. college is rubbish. well, i've finished with that episode of my life. last night i went to go and see new order. at the manchester apollo. it was such a good gig, lots of people in a small venue dancing and generally being nice. one thing i found strange was my movement. well, i started off standing pretty much near the front, and i'm sure i didn't move but about twenty minutes before the end i noticed that i moved at least 5 meteres back without intently moving backwards. has anyone else noticed that at gigs, you tend to move without meaning to? --- after reading jenowl's post about listening to dead media on the bus, i decided to listen to it on the bus. i actually quite like it now. 'alan bean' reminds me of the bus shelter that always gets smashed up in shaw and 'home' reminds me of the crappy 'modern' new bus station in oldham. it's always full of students who have nothing better to do than do crappy graffiti and listen to crappy music. i was going to go out tonight, but i feel really bad. i keep vowing to never drink again but i always do. i really hate it. ahh well. the white stripes have apparently announced a uk tour, i might go. take care, nafees. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: hmm
by toadie291＠home.com 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

hi again. stine again. a cloudy rainy day in chicago leaves me so very sleepy. on top of which it is friday...most of us are shagged out from work by friday. geesh. in my last post i meant to make some comments about the love thread thats been going round the list, but i never got to it. perhaps another time. right now i have really got nothing to say. olivia and i (shes the 10 month old i take care of) are hanging out at my house...hers is being remodelled so we were evicted for the time being....so here we are hanging out till it is time to pick up the divine miss em, the 4 year old i take care of. what a totally boring day. i hope you are having a far more sinister day than i, cuz i am bored to tears. tomorrow i am supposed to go to a punkin farm with my friend sharon. that should be fun. ive never been to a punkin farm. hayrides, punkins, apple cider, the whole nine yards. should be fun...sans rain of course. oi. so i dunno. i guess i will go now. i just wanted to say hello and kill some time. i hope you are having a far less eeyore day than i. fish face ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: But thinne it lay, by colpons, oon by oon
by Genevieve Wesley 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

Someone wrote awhile back that Sinister has been a source of comfort for many during the fear of the terrorist attacks, and a former listees website:http://www.arigoldfilms.com/WTC.html has been one of the better things I've read in contrast to all the numbing and terrifying sensory overload in the papers and on the t.v. Not meaning to return to that tired old argument, but when I was returning my Strokes cd, the record store boy thought I was being foolish because apparently, they are pulling that album due to a New York City song on it and it's becoming rare? I don't know anything about record value or the exchanges on ebay, I just like to live vicariously through my older brother's tales. ("..and then I sold all off your dad's Beatles albums on the apple label")When I first bought the record it was out of a big fate pile (no endangered species) but that's what record boy said, so thought it might be of interest to some of you. It's seems like it's been a while since I bought a record that I liked almost all the way through and not just two songs. Thank goodness my special edition Lloyd Cole's Greatest Hits arrived on my desk the other day. My Associates cd also came in. I've seen their name on Sinister before, but I think it always just registered as The Association with my brain, and I didn't pay much attention (not that I don't like Never My Love) but I think I'm scaring my mother by playing Club Country too much and singing in that banshee voice "refrigeration keeps you young I'm told". It's such a fun song but the lyrics are quite creepy. I love his breathy voice at that one bit, but "every breath you breathe belongs to someone else" eep. Now don't be too hard on Pauline L. Shivers, we need all voices on this list, the gentle and the international jetsetter alike. She makes me giggle and giggles are good. I suppose I should put my necessary 'I love autumn' comment in too. :) We're going to the farm for Canadian Thanksgiving and it will be lovely. I'm going to make Real Tiramisu. You just don't notice the changing leaves in the city like in the gatineau hills. But Arctic Woman has warned me not to go too deeply into the forest - the drought has brought out the bears. But Mama! Struan is trapped in the secret cave with evil Barnacle Bear, what on earth shall we do? I need to ride behind him on the motorbike (hands wrapped tightly around leather-jacket body, face huddled from the wind) since Lucy stirred such a lovely image. I've got to read the 'Mabinogi' now, even if I can't pronounce it! Kisses, Genevieve p.s. Sorry these pictures aren't of a pique-nique, so they'll probably only interest a few of you, but here are some London/Scotland pictures: http://photos.yahoo.com/pookiebooca _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: property of no one
by eric the half a bee 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

hello, I haven't posted properly in almost two months. I've had this growing suspicion that I may be turning into a lurker, but I don't want that, obviously. lurkers don't get any... or is that the other way around? well, I'm not getting any regardless, so I suppose it doesn't matter much. I'm applying to grad schools for next year, and I was planning on going to school in britain, and now with this whole terrorism war stuff I want to get out of the states more than ever. not only do we have an idiot for a president, but now stuff is getting blown up too. my roommate wants to move to new zealand and raise sheep, and really, I can't blame him. more than ever, I just want to get my masters, find a job at some small university town, and cloister myself away with students and books. the real world used to scare me, but now it terrifies me. even my desire to stay in new york in waning. I don't know where I'll be in a year's time, and that fact is oddly comforting. maybe I'll go to canada. I meant this to be a light-hearted post. I failed at that... sorry. I'll leave on a happier note: I want a basset hound... I wish my school would let us have pets. puppies are so cute! tweeness abounds. oh, um. I heard "marx and engels" for the first time this week. it's quite good, although I can't make out the words. cheers, eric ps note to ken chu: if I end up in nottingham, we'll have to meet for a drink and discuss our lack of pulling skills. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: offtopic: alternatives to audiogalaxy?
by Kin WOO 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

my dears, i know audiogalaxy is something rather akin to manna from heaven at this point in our post- napster lives, but something odd has happened to mine and for some reason i can't seem to reconnect, no matter how many times i have tried! so, i am sending a plea out to all you tech- savvy people out there- does anyone know of any program which is as good if not, even better than adiogalaxy from which to d/l mega- cool mp3's? where the people have impeccable taste in music, as they do on audiogalaxy? i tried kazaa but that sucked. ditto bearshare, for some reason!! i am desperate, i need my mp3 fix, and audiogalaxy is sending me up the freaking wall! thanks, kin, pulling his hair out in WA "Consciousness is a terrible curse" Jeffrey Eugenides +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Clearing up the confusion
by Neil Robertson 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

Righty-ho, "Waking Up To Us" and "The Season Has Arrived" are the same song. We just couldn't decide what to call it. Except we have now, and it's the former. It is coming out on November 26th. It was to have been earlier, but what with all the shennanigans recently we never got the artwork finished in time, and we would be in Japan for the next date and unavailable for any promotion that might come along, so we've gone for the 26th. Which won't change now! (Unless the post office fail to find the artwork which has gone missing in the post!) It's a sair fecht. Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Making posts out of nothing at all . . . .
by Intellectualvoid＠aol.com 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

Sinister! Oh, you lovely people! How good it is to know you've all got an avid ear and fine sentiments. I like this minidisc game! What fun! Heartwrenching fun, but a good time nonetheless. I, er, won't be playing tonight, however. Maybe some other time. I'm indecisive tonight. Although I must say, when making a converter/sampler for B&S fan-candidates, I have always stuck to the one-song, two-song rule as previously outlined. It's a winning combination. So. Fall has arrived. Lovely, beautiful, aching fall. Do you know what this means? It means when I walk outside in the mornings the air is cool on my skin, and the slow breeze is like a seductress. In other words, it's under 100 degrees, now. And likely to be until at least April. Three o'clock sun slants perfectly through the shutters, laying strips of honey-gold across the tile, and the shadows of tree limbs bending in the wind is sillohuetted on the wall. It's perfect. Absolutely. My favorite. It's actually beyond my descriptive capabilities. Ooooh. I could do a little dance. Maybe I am ;-) << And yes, that is me with Stuart after the show. Such a nice guy! >> Welcome, Mr. Ian. . . but first things first. I won't call you names out loud, but indeed, they're ricocheting around my brain. Lucky dog. Next order of business, where were you at the picnic? Unless my recall is failing utterly. . . surely even a Sinisterine-in-training could pop his head up for good measure. . . well. Next time, buster. . . you'd better be there! As for the love-cynics out and about in this sinister world, all I can say is. . . well. I don't really know what to say. I have to agree with the statement that love is a perfect idea, but seems frail and easily shattered in reality. It certainly does. I enjoy it from a distance. Love is like a Monet. Cohesive and patterned and quite nice from about 10 yards. But up close, ummmm. . . well, a bit fragmented, and not exactly as advertised. You know? No doubt, I've made a poor job of explaining myself. But, there you go. And that's all my fine feathered friends. Go back to your Red Bull and Vodka's and your other assorted fizzy drinks, respectively. Yes, Mr. Chu, I'm talking to you. Much Love, Shannon. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Job hunting starts proper on Monday.
by DansonHatcher＠aol.com 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

Summer in winter, Winter in springtime. I heard a sexy bird sing "Come to London and you'll be just fine". I've spent the summer, wasting.. ...time in dead end jobs. So come that I still feel so free. I spent a summer wasting, Now and then I was blue without compare. A collection of brill memorys and music are what I have to show for. Many weeks of meeting fresh new faces, Many weeks of car-auction-weekends, Many weeks of train station confusion Just the one weekend of picnicing all night. Summer in winter, winter in springtime I heard this bird sing everything will be fine. ----------------------------- Bloomin' well hope it will be 'fine', I reckon this may be my last post for some time as I'm going to live in London (for at least this week) Excited and worried with no place of my own/work as yet but I am rather set on going now so, hey! Oh, today I woke up to a rabbit in need of serious nourishment and I didn't have any idea where Mabel's food was at the minute so she was a victim of an experimental home made meal in the shape of...... James's *Luxury* bunny-filler. Take five digestive and five Co-op country crunch bicky's and crumble. Finely chop three carrots and one turnip. Mix thoughly and serve with two lettice leaves and 320ml of the finest water a garden tap can deliver. Disclaimer, This is intended only as a "keep your bunny alive when you can't find her food" and not to become a daily diet, ok. ----------------------------------------- On more *impresive* note.. I got escorted off an N,C,P multi story on wednesday for taking pictures. How rock 'n' roll is that. I have to admit the car park guard/entertainer probably had a point as he explained "this car park is 34 years old and there has never been anyone injured here in all that time" That taking my pictures rested upon developing a sudden "art over personal safety" mentality got him a little twitchy. Hey I still managed to get some pretty mega snaps mind. If you've read this FAR your an absolute STAR. More scared of heights thanever before, James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: I wish I can speak Icelandic
by Richard Kim Jones 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

Hey ya sinister people i saw sigur ros at the radiohead gig in oxford and i too was incedibly impressed.they are just beautiful... but i do fel that the crowd were horrible to them...stupid little kids ripping jonsi during svefn-g-englar. anyhows i am goin to see hefner on the 20th..and my friend leanne lent me dead media today so i wanna listen to it soon. uh..yeah..umm stay sinister *hugs to all* rich im not living im just killing time >>> "Ian Rivamonte" <irivamon(a)hotmail.com> 10/05/01 07:49am >>> Hello Sinister, I just came back from the Sigur Ros show at the Warfield here in ever so lovely San Francisco. They were absolutely amazing! Although, seeing them at the same venue where I saw Belle and Sebastian is kinda weird. To me, Belle and Sebastian will always own the Warfield and everytime I think of the Warfield I will always associate Belle and Sebastian. If anyone gets a chance to see Sigur Ros play in their local neighborhood, I suggest you do so. And about Hefner, love Hefner. Never heard the new album except for the song Dead Media. Promising at best. From: <Intellectualvoid(a)aol.com> > Welcome, Mr. Ian. . . but first things first. I won't call you names out > loud, but indeed, they're ricocheting around my brain. Lucky dog. Next > order of business, where were you at the picnic? Unless my recall is failing > utterly. . . surely even a Sinisterine-in-training could pop his head up for > good measure. . . well. Next time, buster. . . you'd better be there! Unfortunately, I didn't even know there was a Sinister picnic Shannon. I just came on Sinister and never knew about picnics and such. So cute! I will make it the next time around. But anyways, I have to rest my ears. And I will play the MiniDisc game some other time. Take care. Cheers, Ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Just like Jonathan Richman, I AM SO CONFUSED
by Lawrence Mikkelsen 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

***WEIRDNESS IN THE B&S CAMP*** I am extremely confused about recent developments in the "new B&S single department" and was wondering if anyone could clarify. (Anyone uninterested in the more anal details of release info etc. should probably skip to the next post right about now ....) (also, apologies if this has been mentioned before) I went to amazon.co.uk today to order "The Season Has Arrived". I seem to recall being told that it was coming out on November 12th. According to amazon.co.uk it is being released in November 19th, although the US import copy is available on the 13th. hmmmm ......... So, I went to the B&S band site, and what should I find but a message saying THE NEW SINGLE IS CALLED "WAKING UP TO US" AND IS COMING OUT ON NOVEMBER 26th! (Same b-sides by the look of it, different a-side, obviously) Am I really out of the loop? What happened to "The Season Has Arrived"? Does anyone know? Does anyone care? Very queer. Also, according to the (not terribly reliable but better than nothing) amazon.co.uk website, an album called "Storytelling" (presumably the soundtrack to the film of the same name) is being released on November 13th in the US. No UK release date. (I remember when Jeepster used to keep me informed about these sorts of things through their mailing list. I don't think I've had a Jeepster email in close to a year ...) OK, OK, so this sure is anal stuff to be posting about ... I just feel like the kid at school who is the only one in the whose class to know some big important secret. (sigh) ____________________________________- onward ...... New Sodastream is *excellent* I know I said that in a post a week or so ago, but truth be told, I'd only listened to it once when I posted saying how good it was. I mean, I *knew* it was going to be good, I was just a wee bit enthusiastic is all. Wedding plans are driving me to drink ..... Confirmed tracklist for wedding ceremony is as follows ..... Entrance: Song To The Siren: Tim Buckley Singing of the register: Northern Sky: Nick Drake Exitus: Wouldn't It be Nice: The Beach Boys Rockin' OK, it's late ...... if *anyone* call fill me in on all this B&S stuff, I'd love to know ... I feel like I've just come out of a coma. Lawrence. PS - favourite song title of all time, this week "Are you STILL evil when you're sleeping?" The Siddeleys. Lawrence Mikkelsen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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