November 2001 - Sinister

Sinister: new b&s
by CFBobcat2003＠cs.com 12 Nov '01

12 Nov '01

Greetings, I never post, but I just had a question for you guys. Is the new ep supposed to be out.......cuz I got it on 12". I was just asking, because its funny i got the last release early at the same place. My buddy was innocently reading titles and he said "waking up to us" belle and sebastian. My ears perked up and the rest is history. Let me tell you it sounds strange to me. It sounds lo-fi like it was made in the 60's, and musically it definately has more of a 60's feel, stuart sings akwardly too....... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Have You HUGED A Belle And Sebastian Fan Today?
by Laura Llew 12 Nov '01

12 Nov '01

"The industry of Mr. Sinclair Lewis is a thing to marvel at, to ponder of a white night, and, if such is your way, to hoist high as an example. To my own admittedly slanted vision, industry ranks with such sour and spinster virtues as thrift, punctuality, levelheadedness, and caution. I think that Aldous Huxley utters the loud truth when he says, in Point Counter Point, that industry can never substitute for talent. There exists, especially in the American mind, a sort of proud confusion between the two. A list of our authors who have made themselves most beloved, and therefore, most comfortable financially, shows that it is our national joy to mistake for the first-rate, the fecund rate." Don't take my silence over the past month as a sign of having company, moping about miserably, and generally being swamped in work. Rather think of it as rather merely following the sagacious wisdom of Dorothy Parker. Rachel Ranted: >ON A HAPPY NOTE, Laura Llew's gentleman caller, Mr. Breams wrote his >tale >of being in the presence of said goddess* awww!It's so cute! Ooh, a gentleman caller - I always wanted one of those. A vapid sweaty Jim to my delicate bloom of a Laura. My favorite scene is all of literature comes from when a Laura is preparing for such a boy: Mother: No, wait! Wait just a moment - I have an idea! Laura: What is it then? [Mother produces two powder puffs which she wraps in handkerchiefs and stuffs in Laura's bosom.] Laura: Mother, what are you doing? Mother: They call them gay deceivers! Laura: I won't wear them! Mother: You will! Laura: Why should I? Mother: Because, to be painfully honest, your chest is flat. You can work in a bookshop all you want - but it's still going to be just the books which are well stacked. >LAURA LLEW wrote earlier this month: "for Halloween when I shall be > >Isadora Quagmire http://www.lemonysnicket.com/tc_isadora.html) and >yes, >I plan to do that exact expression for the entire day and speak >only in couplets." I am curious to know how that works out for you >miss >Llew! Due to still being in a haze from the night before, I opted to only dress up as Isadora in the evening. As talented as my hair is, it still obeys the laws of physics so my costume wasn't completely perfected. However, I was wearing great striped socks and I'm sure it made up for it. I spoke in couplets the entire time I was out in the evening which was great(ly annoying). I had wanted to prepare a couple of couplets beforehand - maybe lift one from the Virgin Suicides like: The trees like lungs filling with air My sister, the mean one, pulling my hair This is only because, "All the lads I've met in cupid's deadlock - were shall we say?- born out of wedlock" didn't exactly work. Yes, I had a sinister visitor for a couple of weeks. He was used to being around a lot of people and I'm used to being by myself. So, I whipped out all of my multiple personalities for him and then pretended he didn't exist. Oddly enough, it worked. I also spent copious amounts of time being continually impressed by how the mere drop of his Australian accent would make people swoon and paved the way for us getting free food and tickets to a sold out show. Yes! My first show! I fell asleep. And they say I'm not a scenester... The Real Jimmy G (http://www.gocontinental.com/photos/gilmer_j_2a.jpg What you didn't think the secret would get out) crooned for the chorus: >Her: "I've decided I want to make out with one boy in every country" >Me: "How's that working out for you?" >Her: "Pretty good so far, though I don't know anyone in the >Netherlands....so, what are *you* doing tonight?" I wonder how successful she was. In college, I had the goal of going out with a boy from each state but I stopped once I got to 35 states and decided the mid-west wasn't worth it. (Except for Missouri because there was no way I was missing the SHOW ME state.) Working in a bookshop I'm not exactly overloaded with suave boys so my best (worst) pickup line was more of a pickup gesture when a boy left me a copy of John Gray's Mars & Venus On A Date. What is one to do when given a DATING book? I mean was the boy trying to tell me that I needed help in that area. Was it a hint? Does he - HEAVEN FORBID - expect me to read it and discuss it with him? Instead I believe I'm going to give him the book, "Women are from Venus Men Are From Hell" which has great quotes in it like, "Ever since Eve gave Adam the apple, there has been a misunderstanding between the sexes about gifts." (Nan Robertson) This post is going to be long. I can feel my bum getting sore already. I had an entire rant ready for the whole List Crush Debate of 2001 - beginning with the fact that even I (or is it - especially I) can seem appealing with thousands of miles away. However, I shall steer away from such debacles and leave you instead with a poem by Yeats which I'm going to dedicate to Miss Fruitloop: Never give all the heart, for love Will hardly seem worth thinking of To passionate women if it seem Certain, and they never dream That it fades out from kiss to kiss; For everything that's lovely is But a brief, dreamy. Kind delight. O never give the heart outright, For they, for all smooth lips can say, Have given their hearts up to the play. And who could play it well enough If deaf and dumb and blind with love? He that made this knows all the cost, For he gave all his heart and lost. For everything that's lovely is But a brief, dreamy. Kind delight-- Laura *And to think boys usually have to have had a couple before before they start calling me Goddess and boy did it while completely sober. PS - Hot Chocolate Chugs out to Fairweather Farewell Farrell - the only person EVER who has been as obsessed with hot chocolate as I am and appreciates a little *panache* PPS - Vel if you're going to send poems that have never been translated into English knowing I'll fall in love with them, then you'd best be prepared to become a full time translator for me. I'd hate to find out you were a tease. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: An unremarkable day
by Sunset . 11 Nov '01

11 Nov '01

Rachel Sunnyside-Up was walking along unaware that her life was about to irrevocably change. The sky was an unremarkable colour, the route taken was the same as on any other day, and as on any other day she was slightly late. The day had begun in a typical fashion, burnt toast, lost keys and odd socks. She had woken up at a reasonable time, left the house slightly later than was reasonable and was walking to work slightly slower than was necessary. To all intents and purposes, this had begun as an exceedingly average day. Just look at her walking, in the hazy mid morning light. Head down, squinting slightly, shoelace undone, bag slightly open. You would hardly notice her . Her mind was not focused on the journey in the slightest. Other than to look at a tree that she hadn't noticed before, or to gasp in horror as a stray dog circled round and round the busy road, she was completely unaware of what passed her by that day. She was walking along listening to the sound of "Mary Jo" which originated deep inside of her head. Had passers-by looked, they might have noticed her lips move marginally from time, as she quietly sang along to the song. But just as Miss Sunnyside up was unaware of what passed her by, passers-by were unaware of small movements from her lips and the song within her head. Miss Sunnyside-Up Liked that song but it worried her slightly: "Because life is never dull in your dreams" Sometimes just lately her dreams had become dull. That worried her more than slightly. The journey ended outside an ugly grey building. The journey ended outside the university where Miss Sunnyside up worked. She climbed in an ancient lift and pressed 5. Unusually, since Miss Sunnyside up entered on the ground floor, the lift appeared to go down. Appearances can be deceptive and this would have been impossible. Miss Sunnyside up emerged, a few seconds later, on the fifth floor confirming the fact that the lift had indeed been ascending rather than descending. Miss Sunnyside up sat down at her desk and looked at the two postcards in front of her. They were pictures taken from different angles of a place in Japan. A far off place that Miss Sunnyside up had never visited but quite often thought about. She often sat staring at those two pictures and had come to know them quite well. In a way they had come to feel like a place that she had visited. Looking at that place from different angles imaging what it must feel like to be stood between the two views. Looking behind at things that weren't in the pictures. The sky in the two pictures was blue. A stark contrast to her own sky which sat just above her head monotonous and grey. draining the colour from everything around and about. The blueness of the sky made the pictures appear slightly unreal. It also made the greyness of the surrounds a little less than real. The morning passed with out incident. Or rather the morning passed without unusual incidents. Miss Sunnyside-Up dropped a few items and spilled a few things. At mid-day she left the grey building, following her morning footsteps, as far as the newsagents situated half way between her house and her place of work, she picked up a copy of the local newspaper. Her eyes focussed on an advert towards the back of the paper and she rushed home more excited than she had been in a very long time. That evening after a few frantic phone-calls Miss Sunnyside Up ventured across a darkening city and out into the countryside. After a few wrong turns Miss Sunnyside-Up reached her destination and returned safely home. The bundle of fluff she brought back with her looked around anxiously. It was Miss Sunnyside-Up who spoke first of all: "so what do you think of your new home belle?" The dog didn't answer Miss Sunnyside-Up's initial question. Deciding that there were more important things to be doing. The small dog seemed to relax somewhat as if deciding to give the place its seal of approval. The dog trotted over to the corner of the room grabbed a cushion and proceeded to chew. Miss Sunnyside-Up sighed, things would never be the same again. Miss Sunnyside-Up smiled, things would never be the same again. Take Care Rachel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Re: Sinister: sweden, oh lovely sweden?
by Rebecka popgirl 11 Nov '01

11 Nov '01

rachel you are not making any sense? hmm where on earth did you go to meet such horrible people if you would have hung out with any of me and my friends I promise you that you would feel differently about it.. why wasn't it nice..you're not telling us the whole picture here.. and i do not understand why everyone is being mean..none of the people I call worthy hanging out with in this country are mean..my boyfriend is english and he can say the same. All my friends are friendly creatures that's what friens are for.. what do you mean not care about what they say?? hmm darling you should really give sweden a better chance and yeah if you're in stockholm some time I'll introduce you to my friendly klick of friends..I do really hope you'll come to Sweden again, it's a lovely place. I like where i am from..and I'm kinda proud of our snowy winters and happy faces:) hmm my boyfriend danny is coming to stay with me in snowyland next week..were gonna make snowangels in the snow..:) hugs to my sinister pals.. see you soon Rebecka in falun, Sweden _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I RemembeR BRidget Riley...
by velocity farewell 11 Nov '01

11 Nov '01

looking out of the window... grey, cotton clouds are descending from the mountain top covering its slopes slowly like the shawl a beautiful woman wraps around her delicate shoulders... You light up a ciggie even though your throat is sore coz of this damn cold! we live for our obsessions... you love this weather... winter people... winter skin, like Karl Smith says... again the same question... alienation... what must you do to keep people satisfied? besides sex that is (OK stupid joke!)... everything seems to end up in tears... childhood, adolesence, love, life... and in between, short snaps of happiness... waiting... for the outburst... the outburst of rain... i don't know why but rain's always been magical to me... when i was little i was wondering... how this sky that cherishes the sun, that is blue and happy can produce rain? as a child, my daddy o' used to come on his bicycle to pick me up from school... and our little stray dog charlie would run after us all the way, covering these 2 kilometres from school to home, running padding waving his tail in joy... in the rain... my daddy would then take the bicycle into the small store house in the yard and i'd run and hide... i'd lean against the wall and let the rain fall on me, wishing i'd get ill... poor charlie! he'd stay there with me getting all soaked himself... I don't remember who wrote that in one of the recent posts, it was so true though... mm something like "being ill when you're a child it's great, being ill as an adult it sucks"... i couldn't agree more... My dearest PF wrote: " at theturn of the previous century, W.B. Yeats went to see A Doll's House: '"Art is art because it is not nature"," which i misread as "art is art because is not mature"... which made me think what a genius thing to say whilst watching an Henrik Ibsen theatre play... then i read again... and I have to say, the PF, and i think you might second me on that, that I prefer my version of mr Yeats' quote... or like the situationists say "detour children, detour"... And other people wrote stuff about love... and crushes... i have to say that i'm losing faith in love... not that i've ever had any... nobody dies of love in our days... isn't that true? and i've always been dreaming of a love equivalent to the ones i was reading in my books... a love like Tristane and Isolde's... "hopelessly romantic" like the Adorable sing.... waiting, believing that the ONE exists... I still do... awful, i know... but anyway, i thought i should talk about love through poetry... it's always more eloquent than my words... There was this woman poet who I think that she became a poet cause of her repressed passion for a cursed poet... she wrote and wrote and bared her soul... what i think it's one of the most sincere things that she'd written is: "... my soul and love were born on the same day. Even though i can feel that inside me, i don't believe there is a day when my ability to really love shall be proven to me..." and then this poem... so so appropriate... "who could tell..." (1927) You've known me to lean over your love like a butterfly over the scarlet flower and to spread as much as my heart could exhilarating the song of love. you've known my heart's wild outburst in the spring's sweet-scented field, my embrace would turn into a longing's wave your youth to snuggle and the roses... Yes, this snuggling of youth and roses... the days of wine and roses... the days of cholera... the day of devastation... the days of waR... coz love is war... here's a link so you can see Maria Polidouri's photo... that's especially for my Laura coz like I've just told her she's one of the few people who'd appreciate this and dream... but then that's especially for my dearest Nicholas, who would really appreciate this too and for Paul, who knows me better than anyone else and he always knows what i'm talking about when i don't make sense to myself even... http://www.geocities.com/atheosdei/Poetry.html But enough with romanticism... which like any other term in philosophy that ends in -ism is a negative term... here's what one of my fave poets, monsieur Jaques Prever, wrote about love in his poem "the tinniest of the songs" The bird that sings in my head And relentlessly tells me that i love you And relentlessly tells me that you love me The bird with the unbearable refrain I shall this bird kill tomorrow morning... Lovely isn't it? i love it anyway.... and yes, I want to kill this bird... StayC Dahling was wondering about the lover and the beloved... I guess I wouldn't like to be any of them... to be the lover without having your love fed is unbearable... i'd kill the bird... i'd kill the beloved than suffering like this... to be the beloved but not the lover at the same time, well, that's suffocating... there would be times when i'd hate the lover... because his love would smother me, would crash me, would suffocate my youth and roses in this constricting embrace... that is all for now... take care... hugs vel xxx PS: forgive my bad translations of the poems from greek to english... PpS: I loved Kyla's post! keep posting my Kyla with the beautiful gaelic name... "WaR is the last possible cReative act"Mick Travis "IF" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Sinister: writers, obessesion, and a wee bit of arsenic
by toadie291＠home.com 11 Nov '01

11 Nov '01

hi everyone. i hope you are all feeling sinister. jim im sorry to hear one of your heroes passed. ive actually never read one flew over the cukoos nest in its entirety...**shrugs with shame***....i have heard by most of my close friends that it is amazing. elise, sorry i havent emailed you in awhile. ive been terribly busy and even more sloth-like in the email correspondence department. not that that makes it okay to neglect your friends, least of all your sinister friends. well at any rate, elise and the rest of you i havent written back to, my sincerest apologies. :o) so who is on board for the 2nd installment of midwest mayhem on 1 december? scott from iowa can you come this time? scott from iowa how/where have you been? rachel formerly of chicagoish now in minneapolisish, can you come? jim and elise are in i presume. and miss nikki (sp?) from chicago, will you be attendence again? gee i hope i hope i hope. :o) am so looking forward to seeing those of you ive already seen and those of you ive yet to see. aww. sinisters are so cool. ya know whats funny, i dont think we even talked about b&s at our last lil gathering. sept when nikki (sp?) said she had IYFS in her head all day, which i seconded...and others may have thirded and fourthed. hee hee. how is that for proper grammar. speaking of something totally unrelated. i have spent all of my recent spare time reading about this guy called raymond queneau. he was a french writer who has absolutely fascinated me to the very core of my being. he is all i think about. his ideas are so incredible. i wont bore y'all with a life story but if you want to hear about an amazing writer, email me and ill tell you all about him...or perhaps youve heard of him and we can chat. :o) punk rock. one last thing....i dunno if ive mentioned this on this list. if i have i apologise. but can someone, anyone, please explain to me why in the bloody hell the white stripes have a job? scott from iowa and i chatted about them one evening and i was pleased that he agreed and im not totally alone in this. their music is less than mediocre and the vocals....oh my gooses. i never realised it was possible to morph the voices of axl rose and billy squire till i heard white stripes. i spent one entire morning trying to understand the hype. people whose opinions i highly regard and respect mentioned the white stripes and how incredible and talented they were. on first listen i didnt care for them but thought it was the sort of thing that just sort of inadvertantly consumed you. well anyway. thats what i thought the white stripes may be like. so i spent all morning listening to it awhile back. yeah. self rightous art wank bastards who claim that their lack of talent makes them avant garde....when in actuality they are no talent hacks who have really good marketing people. its like i always say: most of the time people will like who they are told they should like. i realise i will get shot by many people for saying that. sorry. just my opinion. anyway. im off now. going shopping and then to the first birthday party of the divine miss olivia (one of the girls i take care of). talk to you all soon. i promise ill write back. perhaps ill even do that now. yes. yes i will. i love you all :o) ps...someone emailed me asking for my aim name and i accidentally delted the email...so if youre reading this...its toadie291 just like my email addy. hasta la pasta ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sweden, oh lovely sweden?
by Rachel oj 11 Nov '01

11 Nov '01

why even say hello? i've understood that i really don't like sweden at all!! i'm so sorry to you swedes, but i can't stand it! fine, so, there's like... two nice people in sweden. but honestly!! no, i'm so sorry. i don't think i mean what i said. i'm in an awful mood. and no, i don't know why. lie. i do know. oooh, shit. sorry. so, i visited sweden this weekend. nice. not. i don't want to move, i just realised that. since it was quite a while ago, i was in sweden, i had this illusion that it was much better than it really is. i don't feel good about moving anymore. it's like noone really cares what they say. everyone is being mean, and just quite awful. oh, it's one of those days when i don't love anyone. i feel better being depressed. i don't like this mood. at least i can cry when i'm a bit depressed. i can't now. that would just look silly. maybe... if i'd listen to like... kent.. or smiths... i might could get a bit depressed. oh, it's just another teenage-angst-day really. sorry to bother you. rachel oj. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: strangeways-thinktank
by s.arnot＠talk21.com 11 Nov '01

11 Nov '01

hi y'all did anybody else from sinister go to the unofficial 'i'm waking up to us' release party at strangeways in leeds on friday? i did and it was ACE. they must have played about 20 b&s songs. i didn't really stop dancing all night. anyway, if any sinister people would like to speak to me i will be there again when camera obscura are playing, on the 14th december. i was the boy with the pale blue flares on and a bit of a 'fro. my mood has picked up of late and i have been excessively happy for the last couple of days. piddlemonkey (rachel griddlemonkey) V!I!V!A!R!A!C!H!E!L!S! lo-fi songs are GRATE -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The bus has left the station
by JAMES GILMER 11 Nov '01

11 Nov '01

Ken Kesey died yesterday. Fuck. Kesey was one of my high school heroes, and his books; "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" and "Sometimes a Great Nation" had a deep effect on me during my teenage years. The book that Tom Wolfe wrote about Kesey and his Merry Pranksters, "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test", had a staggering amount of influence on me when I was younger. In 1964, with Neal Cassady (also the hero of "On the Road") and the rest of his band of Merry Pranksters, Kesey (with Neal at the wheel) drove cross-country in an old school bus named Further, seeking enlightenment in LSD and trying to open the minds of others as well. I'm sure many of you read the novels, most of you probably saw the movie that was made of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", a movie Kesey hated because it took the point of view away from the character of the schizophrenic Indian, Chief Bromden. Now, the 60's are looked back on with either a condesending nostalgia, or as the butt of a joke (look at those silly hippies!!), but the truth of most of the 60's is far from tie-dyes and flower children. For all their flaws, the heroes of the 60's believed in a better world, and they believed in a greater freedom, and it's a shame the world just passed on by that dream. They did do great things though, the Civil Rights movement, the women's rights movement, helping to turn public opinion against a corrupt war and a corrupt goverment, and they laid the seeds of rebellion and hope and jump started a stagnant culture. One generation did that in the span of ten years, not a bad record at all. I really feel like just going and making up a 'special' batch of kool-aid in tribute to one of the greats, but instead I'll just tip a glass to the memory of the Pranksters tonight and say a toast for Kesey and all the old Merry rebels. Ken Babbs, Kesey best friend, said it best: "A great good friend and great husband and father and grand dad, he will be sorely missed but if there is one thing he would want us to do it would be to carry on his life's work. Namely to treat others with kindness and if anyone does you dirt forgive that person right away. This goes beyond the art, the writing, the performances, even the bus. Right down to the bone." Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Who are The Strokes?
by Sam Walton 11 Nov '01

11 Nov '01

Hello there Sinister. The week has been dull, but I feel obliged to post, since my name has cropped up twice. Mummy I've Grazed My Knee called me a Stud Muffin. I can't deny this enough - I merely have **friends** who are **girls**. Perhaps R. Fruitloop's analysis of me being followed around by "rats with boobies" is closer to the truth. Then again, being a Stud Muffin isn't exactly a bad thing, is it? On Friday night I deejayed at an Indie night, accompanied by various nefarious members of the York Sinister Massive. It was fun, and capped off my a conversation that I had with one blissfully ignorant punter: HER: Play something I know - this is shit. ME: That's mighty open-minded off you. Okay then, what are you after? HER: Ash? ME: We just played Kung-Fu. What else are you into? HER: Muse? ME: Sorry, they're shit. None of us have any of their records. How about some Kenickie or something like that? HER: I've never heard of them. Have you got any Limp Bizkit? ME: No. HER: Play something I know. ME: Okay then, we'll be playing some Strokes later. How about that? HER: Who are The Strokes? I thought I'd never hear that sentence spoken at an indie night. Ah well - blissful ignorance. Perhaps she'll be the best to gauge how good they are, because she's obviously been living under a large rock for the last year, totally oblivious to the hype. Anyway, that was all. The message for this post is: Asm is not a Stud Muffin. He might be, but generally he's not. love Asm.x P.S. Graham Henderson asked if there were York people on the list. There's a veritable Massive, Graham, operating under the moniker, "York Sinister Masssive" (YSM), consisting of at least six of us, and a fine Massive it is too. ================= "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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