March 2001 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: A contradictory restlessness
by Sunset . 17 Mar '01

17 Mar '01

Sometimes in life things seem as clear as anything I'm not sure I can really understand that at the moment though I'm sure I felt that way a day or two ago I mean don't get the impression I am saying I am unhappy this is not a feeling a long those lines by any means It is just the realisation that things aren't exactly clear at this moment in time I am not dissatisfied or wishing for change merely saying that as I sit here alone my brain races in a way which will not allow me time to myself I think I might be waiting for something but then again probably not Like I implied at the beginning of this letter things can be clear at times not in a big way not in a way that I know I am going in the right direction in my life or I have any real feeling about the future But the feeling of being in a situation which is right for a specific time Fleeting moments moments easily broken precious parts of my life things which no matter how much I long to repeat are impossible to recreate even in memory Slacking off in work Something I am too good at A natural daydreamer I can sit for an hour or two pretending to read quite convincingly watching the sky change colour and white sea gulls circling on a deep purple background Now that really is a good time to sit and think My thoughts come to me thick and fast e-mails and conversations are composed in my head none of this stuttering nonsense there is a curious calmness at a times like that A true story with a sad ending I was on a train going home sitting watching the scenery change thinking thoughts and looking at my fellow passengers wondering if any them have certain tune running through their head I was calm with a certain contradictory restlessness I had a day off... the sun was bright as I sat in a carriage by myself but was wanting more from this moment The landscape had been decorated by a thick covering off snow "fox in the snow" played in my head I was hopeful there might really be a fox to join this chocolate box picture The train filled up at the next station it all got a little noisy by the next station the train was full I no longer possessed a single connected thought At the height of the disorder both within the train and deep in my head I looked down at the track to see a trace of brown fur speckled by snow For some reason things were clear and still at that moment _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Beyond the Sunrise, Darker Than Thou, and the Fall of Western Civilization
by Jason McKinnon 17 Mar '01

17 Mar '01

Hello Fellow Denizens of the Sinistraad! Greetings from the Land of Fruits and Nuts (CALIFORNIA), Let me tell you, one tends to fall asleep driving to New York from here. The European equivalent trying to drive to Velocity's house (Greece) from Croydon. Any-frickin-hoo, all this talk about Beyond the Sunrise brought up a gripe (here he goes again...jeez). Does anyone notice the pronounced finger squeak on the acoustic guitar part. It's all "Joseph was (squeak) traveling (squeak)...." Man, oh man, is that ever annoying! That guitar is crying out in a voice not unsimilar to Groundskeeper Willie (the Jar-Jar Binks of the Simpsons)"Grease me down, Woman!" Speaking of which.... Why is everything cheap (in America) described as Scottish? 1)scotch tape 2)Scottish Inns 3) MacFrugal's (i swear there is a chain store called that here) Lotsa subtle racism......... Here's more food for thought: Even as a youngster growing up in a small southern town...I noticed that people with Celtic Backgrounds were treated differently. Most of those slave owners we all love to hate are English in origin. The poor tenant farmers who worked their lands were generally Irish and Scottish. In the slow moving South, this attitude of Celts being poor white trash is slow to erode, and even persists today exploited on shows like Jerry Springer. Another fact: In New Orleans, the dirtiest, scummiest part of town was and still is called the Irish Quarter. In America: If you look white, you are white (i.e. anglo-saxon). Whatever white is.... Are french people not latin? Not in the US. Mexicans who are more than half Native American are considered more latin. Are Italian people Latin? Not in the US. Look at it like this.... There are people from India who are way darker that any African-Americans I grew up with. What about the micronesians? Aborigines? Giving you questions for all your Answers since 1975, The Pickle Prince _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: i was puzzled by a dream
by Rachel Playforth 17 Mar '01

17 Mar '01

there have been a few positive comments about Beyond the Sunrise here lately, which made me think: maybe i've been too hasty (after all, i've only given it 6 months to grow on me). maybe i've been playing it at the wrong speed, or backwards, or in the wrong universe. but no. after extensive experimentation it appears i was right all along and it's Turgid Crap. speaking of fyhcywlap, it's a little known fact that the maracas/zither scratchy percussion on Don't Leave the Light On Baby was actually made by chris geddes unconsciously rubbing his stubbly chin, having become obsessive about the lack of shaving facilities in the studio. the measure of the channel 4 Teachers programme was almost certainly accurately taken by arantxa, who as usual is so sharp, i could use her to pierce the top of my vitamin c tablets. but it has lodged in my mind now by virtue of tbwtas, and i fear they've won a viewer for episode 1 at least. who needs subliminal messages (ribena are no strangers to those, i'm beginning to suspect) when you've got the Power of Music? ah, i remember when i was first sinister, and it seemed like everyone who liked b&s must be the same as me, a kindred spirit. we were pilgrims, and we'd sweated blood to arrive at canterbury/mecca/lourdes/glasgow. how we toiled to seek out tigermilk by fair means or foul... how we struggled through the elements to find just one record shop that stocked all the eps... how we were sure struan was speaking just to us, even if our name wasn't lisa... and now every dumbass channel 4 executive stumbles into virgin megastores and walks out humming away mindlessly to the music of the spheres... look, real tears. big up to the york massive. a pint of sam smiths and a Campus Fare roll please. one day b&s will play at fibbers and then we'll show 'em... apropos of nothing much, i seem to have a strange phobia of bands whose names begin with 'w'. wheatus. weezer. ween. wilco (criminally overrated). wheat. they all make me think of whining, whingeing, wimping, wetting and other dismal things. purely a trick of phonetics (maybe), but hard to get over. nick horn of africa wrote: I always think electronic communication too fleeting, too brash, for poetry. Too many flickering digits to distract us. One click and it's gone. One click. Poetry: an analogue medium unsuited to digital transfer. One click. Zero. ah, but that's what they said about print when its nasty black uniformity took over from those pretty illustrated manuscripts. it wasn't true then either. one click is just a choice we make, like the choice to turn the page. the poetry's still there for the taking. at, for example, www.buzzwords.org.uk (ahem.) road trip to cambridge tomorrow! wahey - b&s choons to the max on the M11. travel sweeties and the picturesque sight of 1 million cattle being slaughtered because of foot and mouth. try blaming SmithKlineBeecham for that... right, back to my guinness. luv archel xxx *************************************** Rachel Playforth 'She may not be famous, but she's right' - Homer Simpson For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords(a)bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Crouching Tizer, Hidden Vimto
by Peter Miller 16 Mar '01

16 Mar '01

I see that dreadful group The Pines get a good write-up in this week's Tangents. Apparently their caterwauling vocalists, Pam and Joe, complement each other beautifully. Yeah, well so did Arthur Mullard and Hilda Baker, mate. It is in an article about bunged-up forty-something schoolboys The Clientele. The author has a sly dig at B$S while he's at it. The $ in B$S was a mistake, but I'll leave it in as a comment on the recent MP3 furore. I don't think ideas are free. Mine bloody well aren't. Except the ones in this message. I tricked myself into buying the new reissue of Love's FC album, apparently the DoW trumpet on AAO is there because the producer was working with Herb Alpert at the time. So when Stuart said to Mick, "play like Love" he could have saved himself a lot of time and trouble by saying, "play like Herb Alpert". Also, AHINAM used to just cut off in a searingly psychedelic psych-out manner, whereas now it fades out boringly. Why? BM's OM is based on a tune by Prokofiev. Never heard of them, must be a prog rock outfit. Have you tried Co-op Ribena? Just a suggestion. It tastes better, the bottle's less effeminate and you get Co-op stamps instead of Green Shield ones. And are you people drinking your Ribena out of plastic beakers with childproof lids? If not, ask yourself this question: AM I TWEE ENOUGH? Thanks to Carsmile Steve for that excellent Peacock Johnson review. It told me everything I wanted to know. I thought something had gone wrong with the list for a minute. Sister Disco +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I've got ten arms for you
by Jennifer Gray 16 Mar '01

16 Mar '01

hi. Ribena sounds like something I very much would not like. But chocolate milk and cherry coke were mentioned in recent posts, and I thoroughly approve of those. In regard to animal testing--does the fact that you must squeeze cows teats to obtain chocolate milk make it cruel? Or do the cows like it? Vodka is nasty mixed with most things. Especially orange juice. I can't even drink orange juice anymore, because I've thrown it up so many times when it was mixed with alcohol. So now I totally associate the taste with vomit. My husband is reading "The Red House Mystery" by A. A. Milne. I read it a long time ago, and don't remember much about it except that it was really good. Strange that he should only be remembered for his children's books ("Winnie the Pooh"), when he was capable of writing such a fine, funny mystery. Hmmm, B+S content. In "Beautiful", a bit of the trumpet part reminds me of "And I Love Her" by the Beatles. The "a love like ours will never die" part. Also the guitar solo in "I Could Be Dreaming" reminds me of early-ish Beatles. Which is good. I think "I've just seen a face" is a song that Stuart could sing convincingly and well. Bedtime for me, Jenny Janitoria P.S. I always skip the third song on FYHCYWLAP too. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Belle Vs. Lucksmiths Vs. The Smiths
by amy nelson 16 Mar '01

16 Mar '01

I've seen the Lucksmiths live heaps of times, because they are from Melbourne (Australia) and so am I. It's weird to see them becoming known in the UK, US etc, but good because everyone should appreciate them :) They are fantastic live, their gigs are great fun. There was a time when I'd go to Punters or the Corner and see them once every few weeks, but they have been playing less often in the last couple of years, partly because they have been touring overseas. Apparently they will be in Japan in May and the US in June and July, so keep an eye out for them. Amy (and I really am sick at home, but I can't listen to the Lucksmiths' new CD because I have to write my psych essay for monday) >From: "JASON A." <creature6(a)hotmail.com> >Reply-To: "JASON A." <creature6(a)hotmail.com> >To: sinister(a)missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: Belle Vs. Lucksmiths Vs. The Smiths >Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:13:32 -0000 > >About five months ago a friend of mine introduced me to a band called The >lucksmiths. Ahhhhhh, now I cant stop listening to them. There music is MADE >for spring time. From what I have read on there web site is that they have >toured With b&s a few times . Has anyone ever seen them live??? I hope they >play in Califorina soon. My dream show would be Lucksmiths opening for B&s >and Morrissey jumps out of the crowd and sings some Smiths songs and then >PULP comes from thin air and plays a long set. ahhh its nice to dream. Well >back to The Lucksmiths if anyone gets the chance check out the song >(T-shirt >weather) it's soooooo so good. It makes you want to just cut class and ride >your bike all over town in a t-shirt. just like B&S sone (Legal Man) makes >me want to call in sick to work. hehehehe!!!! > > anti-hero > Jason A. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: In basements we will hide; amnesia is our alibis.
by M. Timothy Meskers 16 Mar '01

16 Mar '01

A tearful hello. All this talk of favourite softdrinks has gotten me a bit weepy, because sadly enough, my favourite softdrink is no longer available to the general public. This bottle (can, rather) of wonderful was known as Josta, and was manufactured by PepsiCo, who I am sure have committed a similar number of atrocities. It took me quite awhile to realize it'd been taken off the shelves, because I don't get out much. Finally one day I got it in me to call up PepsiCo, and ask whatever happened to Josta. So I did, and they said that it had been discontinued due to lack of positive public response, which saddened me greatly and made me long for the days where I had a cool Josta in my right hand. This wasn't just any softdrink, it was flavoured by guarana berries which I imagine are very rare. My friend Stephen and I even passed around a petition at school to bring back Josta. But I think that I may have lost all the signatures, so our first attempt at reviving Josta was a failure. However some boy gave me a Josta baseball cap, which he had gotten as a promotional item at a show. It had the black leopard that was their emblem emblazoned on the front and in proud letters beneath read "Josta." I gave it to Stephen for his help in getting signatures, even though I had lost them. For now I suppose that coffee will have to satiate my hunger for caffeien... but to this day there is a leopard sized hole in my heart that pangs with remorse for not supporting this drink with greater zeal upon its introduction. Josta; gone- but not forgotten. Humbly yours, Timothy xoxo The Self-Appointed Defender of the Creative Merits of Beyond the Sunrise. (I like that song.) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: im reading a book. but its not my kind of book really.
by Sweetie Something 16 Mar '01

16 Mar '01

sinister (pre post point- some, but not much so dont get too excited, b&s content) firt things first obviously becuase if first things came second, third, or even more ridiculously- FIFTH! then they wouldnt be first anymore, would they? yes so anyway i have been posting too much well over the past....few days but i decided that i can safely post this because i have someone to blame. you know who you are. ;P on with the post THE B&S CONTENT: not 5 minutes ago (more like 3) my mum came downstairs and told me there is a new programme starting on C4 called teachers and the theme tune is the boy with the arab strap so there you go. (shit. my first b&s content in who knows how long, and its already been mentioned.) this morning not long after i got up i got a fone call from my friend the jones telling me he won the divine comedy tickets!!!!!! (i entered myself and 2 friends to increase my chances of winning) YAY! BLAKE: didnt realise that "skinny pale guys are sexy" of course skinny guys are sexy very sexy skinny, bit of eyeliner, glitter, ................ nearly got carried away there! BLAKE: also mentioned fetish's my fetish: see above! basically, boys like brian molko. mmmmmmm. (and, of course, neil hannon) and buttons buttons. wow. buttons are grate. theres a place in the calander square that u can get buttons for 1p. :) girls in glasses: well im a girl and i look stoopid in glasses. even my lennons. but i wear 'em anyway. as for other girls. well, being vaguely hetrosexual, im maybe not the best of judges. but i know an attractive girl when i see one. my bestest mate snowflake she looks sexy in specs. and theres another girlie i know. shes very attractive, and she wears specs, and i think they make her even more attractive. yes, they do. :) one of my friends has chickenpox irrelevant, i know, but funny nonetheless. i have suggested she goes out and tried to start a chickenpox epidemic. sick sense of humour? literally, perhaps. many many moons ago i sent a drunken post to the list i only remembered about it a few days ago. so i searched the sini'chive for it (drunken ramblings when ur sober are always good for a laugh) but it aint there oh well last week i found out that liking belle and sebastian doesnt make u a good person nor does being the person that introduced someone to belle and sebastian your friend always sweetie xox icq #42242252 msn messanger something_sinister(a)hotmail.com AOL instant messanger: IIIsecondcreep *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* If I wasn't psychotic I would never have found my true self. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Trampled by vikings...again.
by ArtsyDeco＠aol.com 16 Mar '01

16 Mar '01

Salutations sinisterines, april wrote: >have any of you had b&s dreams? if so it would be interesting to hear. Just last night I had another dream involving b&s, also my second this year and ever. It involved me sitting with some friends of mine while I tried to study Welsh. Then someone behind me said "Do you like belle and sebastian?" I was taken aback because there was no way this person could have known this. I found myself stammering "Yes" to a very lovely boy, wavy black hair, delectably tall and skinny. Sorry, Blake, but I must agree with the girl in the gym: skinny pale guys ARE sexy. So my lovely boy says "What's this?" and sits down in my chair with me. He's Welsh and he wants to help me with my studies! Oh rapture... We are setting up a study date and smiling at eachother when ... I wake up. Phooey. It's the real world and there are no lovely Welsh boys who want to help me. The cheese stands alone (farmer in the dell anyone?) I was always the bloody cheese, alone. Oh well, that put a damper on my day, what with fantasy being so much more attractive than reality. Thanks for putting up with my id, Kara Jean, jelly bean* "Ride like the wind, soul brother" - Endless Mike +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: me and the dream of b&s
by RedAppell＠aol.com 15 Mar '01

15 Mar '01

ok, so this is probably my first maybe second post here. I felt the need to post since last night i had a b&s dream. this is my second b&s dream this year and ever. Last night I dreamt that me and some friends were waiting for a b&s show, except this wasn't a normal show. the performance consisted only of stuart murdoch and a film projection screen. in which he displayed animated images created by him which was then accompanied by an acoustic performance. it was great and like my other b&s dream i wish that is was reality. anyway, have any of you had b&s dreams? if so it would be interesting to hear. ok byebye april +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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