June 2001 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: this heat is wilting my wings...
by angel blackwell 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

hello sinister sweethearts, it's the grumpy canadian angel again... :) actually not so grumpy just in a bit of a daze. the heat here has been unbearable, especially since i don't have a/c. bf surprised me with buying an a/c last night...too bad it don't quite fit in the window. i had to leave the apartment as i had visions of said little bf dropping an appliance out the window and hitting someone. we've figured out how to install it without it killing someone, so my kittens should be happy by the end of the week. (they're just melting, poor little things) i was actually a little inspired to write this morning...as i've been doing absolutely nothing of late, except sit on my ever expanding ass in this mind numbing job of mine...master jonathan howell wrote of talking with a weed that was growing in a parking lot at his work...i thought it was a lovely post. we have two considerably larger plants growing outta concrete in the alley behind my apartement. one is a large tree and the second is an old wisteria plant growing up the wall. both of these poor souls have been paved over and one wonders exactly how they survive. I'm glad they are both there and i talk to them all the time, they just look displaced. i'm having rediculous bouts of shydom again...i walked all the way down queen street to rotate this to get from montreal and clientele tickets...apparently from montreal couldn't get across the border or something and had cancelled and hence the girl wouldn't sell me a ticket. i got my clientele ticket but as i walked past the rivoli i saw that they were still advertising from montreal playing...but stoopid ass me was both too scared to go into the rivoli and ask if from montreal was indeed still playing or to anonymously phone them and ask...and my feet nearly fell off from walking all the way down past bathurst, cuz the streetcars were full and i don't like being in crowds...i'm just silly i know, but it gets frustrating... anyway, i'm going in search of the new single tonight, cuz, honestly i forgot to look for it last night while in rotate this... i think i will go get ribena tonight as well, it goes so well with rum... love and ken chu kisses... a. ___________________________________________________________________ The crudity and sparness of life is to be found in public lavatories." -Leoni Orton-Barnett, sister of Joe Orton. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: next was bureaucracy
by Gordon 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

into town and back... Dad driving me of course... and, speaking to someone farther along the chain, I now have another hour to wait (2hrs: half hour for parking and motorway between here and there. God I'm scared! But you don't exist!) Perhaps you do: maybe; slightly, somewhere unknown. So I comfort myself in the taxonomies of linguistic exploration. I'm perhaps being a bore or simply strange and: much be as such is not my want and my words pedantic I need your company: I need other people. Right now and as spring is in winter as previously said; I shall be quickly shifting... this is not in order to be shifty but to be wise: not smug nor satisfied but translating reality into a language understandeable perhaps only for me... perhaps not, but in the express of appropriate thoughts... Maybe 'nobody cares' translates 'Nihil' but, from experience of circumstances I am given evidence that people do. A glance or even slightly less of a gesture than that: these things are important. Everything is of import. My importations stay in the space of fantasy but I attempt their constructions. I make mistakes as well. Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: feeling intense
by Gordon 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

ok. hi there. I have about fifteen minutes available in which to write such as I have to say. In moments like these I see the meaning in the words of T.S.Eliot: 'Midwinter spring is its own season/ Sempiternal though sodden towards sundown,/ Suspended in time, between pole and tropic.' The eternal strangeness of time and people and being. Or perhaps I ought to translate more directly from Eliot: the seasons are general descriptions of time and state but do not describe an individual/ the word 'Sempiternal' means 'enduring constantly' and derives from late Middle English from the Old French *sempiterne* = late [from the shorter version of the Oxford English Dictionary] The rest of that line you might presume to translate correctly. The third line 'Suspended in time, between pole and tropic' in which T.S. perhaps was, for the sake of modernity disinclined to change the comma for a semi-colon, is clearly referencing wild (as in the distance between the humours of 'pole' and 'tropic' and the physical distance and the enduration of such a travel) swings of mood: childhood is not so long ago, after all. I now have five minutes, a haircut (leaving the fringe) the day off and dressed immaculately in a white cuff-linked shirt; grey woven tie and black suit in heavy cloth. On the suggestion of my mother, I have taken off the waistcoat because the entirety of the appearance produced an almost funereal aspect. No funerals or anything: I am over-dramatic in demeanour and happy, but curious, to be alive. But I am. I'll tell you later:) Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: a complete and apocryphal history of my life (or not)
by Neil Milton 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

Hi guys... I have many nuggets of information... First thing first, and MOST IMPORTANTLY! I'm going to see Belle and Sebastian on Saturday... Wah Hey!!! I feel that one of the best gigs of my life has been creeping up behind me and is now waiting to clobber me with a wet fish! I cannae wait! I've even managed to get the WHOLE day off work so I can come along to the picnic. Talking of which, can Alisdair, or ANYONE email me off list, the details of the picnic cause I managed to delete alisdair's original message. ARRGGHH I'll see you guys there. But Before that... Tonight! Troika! 13th Note Cafe 8:30PM (or there abouts) �2 playing with HOUSE, and THE DAMN QUAILLS Come along and laugh at me... a fun night will be had by all. Another thing that I'd be VERY grateful if folk would help me out with... There are over a thousand mbrs (oops there is my aol tech rep abbreviations coming thru) of this list and I'd be grateful if at least a hundred of them could go along to the following link and please please please please please sign the petition... even if you don't know me and you never expect to ever meet me I will appreciate it. A couple of list members have signed it so far but you guys could so help the cause..:-D I apologise if anyone thinks this is blatent list abuse. I guess it is.. but this issue is very important to me. And it could help you guys (specifically the ones of you who are in bands) in the long run. http://www.petitiononline.com/troika/petition.html lastly... a wee story... I went to avalanche in glasgow on friday, and I attempted to buy the VERY first gentle waves single on 7" for �15! The day before, the bastard had sold! Damn I thought! I should have bought it when I saw it! Flicking thru my mate Niall's fanzine (Homegrown) I noticed he was selling the very same 7" for �6 A SAVING of �9 no less!!! The moral of the story... don't be too disappointed when you miss out on something... it may come back to you in better circumstances.. :-D anyway.. I gotta go... Jenowl.. I hope you're better soon... Amy... love ya... xxx CU on Saturday Neil.x. ===== "I took a wrong direction, from a shooting star" Sparky's Dream - Teenage Fanclub ------------------------------------------------------ Neil Milton; neil_milton(a)yahoo.com; ICQ:77866398 Troika - http://www.troikaonline.co.uk 2mf - http://www.geocities.com/tmfpromo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The horror! The horror!
by Ruvi Simmons 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

"The king sits in Dumferling toune, Drinking the blude-reid wine: 'O what will I get guid sailor, To sail this schip of mine?'... ...Haf owre, haf owre to Aberdour, It's fiftie fadom deip, And thair lies guid Sir Patrick Spens, Wi the Scots lords at his feet." - The Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens. I believe that was the poem to which Mr. Murdoch referred, and very lovely it is too - a perfect ballad. So much so, in fact, that I hesitate to think of how I can adequately follow it with my own humble (hum-drum?) words. A poem of some 300 year vintage, written by that mysterious Anonymous, that amorphous hand of the common man, or perhaps the everyman. Or perhaps some poems are just born bastard children of the earth; nobody knows how they got here, or who they originated from, they materialise and endure as if by magic. Mistah Pinefox ("he dead") mentioned something about Douglas Hurd's jumpers. It reminded me of a bit from The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov. Not where the cat rips the master of ceremonies's head off, though. I shan't go any further. If I did then this e-mail would contain more quotations than my own words, and that would be a prospect to horrible to accept. The idea that I'm becoming nothing more than someone who would do well on Mastermind, win the cut glass tureen, shake Magnus's withered hand (would I be cruel and try to crush it with my youthful, vice-like grip?), and shuffle back to a bedsit in Pinner to eat baked beans and feed an army of mangy cats is really quite disturbing. Not that I want to incite an argument, but I thought I'd say a few words about voter apathy. Perhaps it could be a nice kind of argument, where people become indignant with smiles on their faces, and pass custard creams around after having attacked somebody else's point of view. Nevertheless, I must say that the idea of voting being an intrinsic expression of freedom is a complete fallacy. Universal suffrage may once have symbolised the zenith of liberte, egalite and fraternite, but its meaning has changed. Politics and politicians have always devoted themselves to representing the interests of the voting public. It doesn't matter whether those with the vote are a percentage of 5 or 100. As it is now, the major political parties are nothing more than a hotch-potch of uninspired demagogues who will do anything if they think it will gain them votes. They reflect complacent, smug apathy far more than anything else, and are more responsible for maintaining the status quo, perpetuating prejudice, than any other group of people. To vote in an election is to give tacit consent to everything they stand for, which is anti-ideology, self-interest and manipulation. Except for Michael Portillo, of course. He is, after all, my benighted Minister of Parliament. I saw him once, walking down Kensington High Street. His little gimlet eyes were roving the street, undressing every young boy they saw. I could imagine him driving up to Holland Park in his Daimler, waving a wad of fifties under the nose of some Moroccan rent boy....... ....That was all getting a bit sordid and inflammatory, wasn't it? I've probably annoyed people - I didn't mean it. I'll purchase the custard creams, if you like. I'll even bring along my pack of rhubarb and custard sweeties. And I promise I won't say anythign more about politics. Or Timothy Mcveigh. Or Joseph Stalin (was his moustache real? I heard it was a fake, like Groucho Marx's). We can discuss something pleasantly neutral, like how beautiful it is when there's a thunder storm after a sultry, brooding day. Or how post-War art has consciously sunk itself in the consumer miasma, becoming nothing more than a reflection of transient, shallow trends in popular culture. Sorry, I'm going to shut up now. I do have nicer things to say. Pleasant stories of love and longing to keep us company through the night. I've been listening to Edith Piaf almost non-stop, and truncated French phrases I half understand are echoing around my brain. I'm not sure whether it is because she is actually good, or the associations I have attached to her songs. A girl with whom I am besotted gave me an Edith Piaf record in exchange for a tie and two weeks worth of silent pining. Is that a success for the shy legions of romance, who spend their time playing canasta and reading Keats, not sharpening swords on grinding wheels and eating raw meat? I'm not sure yet. She has gone to America for a fortnight. So Edith and I will be keeping a two week vigil. I really ought to stop now, I think, lest I become the Oliver Stone of Sinister - a fountain of over-long, vulgar displays of self-indulgence. Before I do, however, I would like to say one more thing about British politics. When I was walking to the shops a couple of days ago, I was thinking of the kind of campaigns that would be more appropriate for the various politicians. I would like to see Ann Widdecombe balance bottles of wine on her not inconsequential mammaries, or use them as ad-hoc dry ski slopes for field mice. Then William Hague could actually dress up at The Hague and...no, enough. Another idea that was better in my brain than in the real world. So it always is. Thoughts full of promise that enter the world little more than deformed runts. Now I really will end it all. Pills, razors, or the send button? But I would like to end on a happy note. There has been some mention of Sir Cliff Richard recently, and it made my little heart trill with happiness because, because, because, I saw him a couple of weeks ago, L-I-V-E, at the Royal Albert Hall. No, that's an embarrassment, isn't it? I think I was the only one under 45 there, and certainly the only one not wearing enormous shoulder pads, with a platinum blond rinse. It was my day off, you see. Enough. Goodbye. Ruvi. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Manuscripts Don't Burp: A Life in Letters and Diaries
by Peter Miller 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

>From The Master and Margarita: "No, no, hegemon," said the prisoner, straining with the desire to convince. "This man follows me everywhere with nothing but his goatskin parchment and writes incessantly. But I once caught a glimpse of that parchment and I was horrified. I had not said a word of what was written there. I begged him- please burn this parchment of yours! But he tore it out of my hands and ran away." Many people have claimed to have foreseen the Internet, Pete Townshend for instance, but I think Mikhail Bulgakov came pretty close with the above paragraph. Still, there's nothing we can do about it now, is there? I agree with Mark C that it's getting harder to write to Sinister. Who's interested in whether or not I think PF stands for Poo Face? Who cares that there's a picture of Seymour Stein in PLEASE KILL ME and that the word WARONKER has appeared in every single review of the new REM album? That's right, the same number of people as before - three, give or take one or two. Honey mentioned BILLIE JEAN - did you know that next year Michael Jackson's THRILLER album will be twenty years old? It doesn't bear thinking about. But I often think about things that don't bear thinking about. I've been listening to the album a lot lately. Becasue I bought it. It's pretty good I think. BILLIE JEAN is faultless, sounds like it was recorded yesterday. WANNA BE STARTIN' SOMETHING is like a SMILE-era Beach Boys outtake, whose toytown guitar solo surpasses its more famous cousin from Eddie Van Halen on BEAT IT for sheer stoopidity. I give the album 8 out of 10. Thanks for all the concert reviews, it's almost like being there. I reckon people who shout for SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL stand a good chance of being satisfied by Stevie. I hear the Saracen's Head have got a special promotion on this weekend - a free Ribena dash in your Buckfast! Get there early to avoid disappointment. Peter MIller Baix Llobregat +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: la la la, my life is really interesting, oh yes...
by tomatron 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

well now, i appear to be writing an email at 5 in the morning. i wonder why, hmmm? ah... i'll have got my results from my finals today, then. i'll probably be drunk, or something. the trouble is that, despite getting a really quite good mark given my complete lack of work, i now have absolutely no respect for the subject i spent the last year studying. as the lad marx (groucho, i think, not karl) in no way said, i wouldn't want to study any subject that i could do well in. no academic standards, see?...no wonder this country's going to the suburban dogs. i think i'm going to be sleeping on the beach in scarborough come the 26th; nah, really, if anybody knows how to get back to (say) leeds from there post-gig, me and my pal charlie would be most grateful. /somebody/, please... i've kind of gotta be back in the cambridge area the next day to, er, graduate... (still, i'm sure it's a lovely beach to sleep on) bought vinyl copy of "ant music" single today from a charity shop. the oldish lady behind the till started stroking it and saying how much she used to love him. she then took it out of the sleeve and started staring at it in raptures, running her hands around the grooves and saying how she thought they were amazing. it was several minutes before she actually let me have the bloody thing. i felt like i was tearing her baby from her bosom, and ironically* it wasn't even a baby i could listen to 'cos i haven't got a baby player, i just wanted it for the thrill of posession and the nice cover the baby had. [sometimes a metaphor can be stretched to far, i feel, and that includes words and sentences, which are essentailly just very oblique metaphors for the things they represent. maybe.] a metaller friend of mine was quite annoyed tonight when i played him Lazy Line-Painter Jane and he inadvertently liked it, not realising who it was. is it just me or is there a minor revival of the (subjectively, i admit) wonderful band menswear going on? a man told me that love is overrated as an ideal and underreated as a practicality, and i'm wondering if is should believe him. another good friend has recently has a complete mental breakdown following a violent psychotic episode last weekend, and we've no idea when or if he'll get better or how he is right now. i have run out of cigarettes. life appears to go on, despite (or perhaps because of) all this. oh dear, i seem to have written one of those long inconsequential rambling posts that i've just deleted about a hundred of 'cos my disk's getting full and which i swore to myself i'd never write... fuck. sty btfl, tm (BA) *in no way ironic, and i hate it when people misuse that bastard word... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: cause offense by the way i look
by Samiam Green Eggs And Ham 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

Regarding the subject of nerdy girls, I see nerdy girls at this britpop thingy in Wash DC every month, but I still think you're probably on point to some extent. This may explain why there aren't many "geek" girl bands. Sammy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Baby sinisterine goes to Aberdeen!
by Priscila Moura 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

Hello everyone I'm new! And so glad to FINALLY have a voice on the list (I won't go into it, but it's taken me forever and has been deeply frustrating). I'm overjoyed at having found sinister, it's been two years since I've been looking for other B&S lovers ever since I first heard BWTAS at my local gym (what a cool gym!)and I've only found a couple. And I'm all excited and jumpy at the prospect of seeing them on my birthday (28th)for the first time on thurs 14th in Aberdeen. Nevermind it's probably the furthest venue from London, I'd go to China, I swear to God! So is anybody else going? I've already managed to join forces with one other, if anybody else would like to get in touch they're more than welcome to. Ooh, I can't wait! See you there, Priscila. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: single
by Matthew Ward 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

My copy of the single shipped yesterday (CDNow ships a day before the release date), and Amazon lists the release date as today as well. Maybe the US release date is earlier than the British date? Anyway, I went by the local Best Buy and they didn't have it in stock (it took them a month to get Legal Man in last year). Anyway, hope that helps the confusion. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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