August 2001 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Barcelona - false alarm
by Vanessa Roseline Siegl 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

Ok, I found a place to stay now and it is a decent youth-hostel too; right at the harbour. So the next two nights are sorted. Sorry for mailing twice in such a short time but I wanted zou to know all is cleared up now and I am - for now - sorted and can start to relax and have a good time!! YAY! Will send benicassim reviews when I get back v/xxxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Wisdom (teeth and otherwise)
by ArtsyDeco＠aol.com 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

Christ, I'm feeling better finally and I wake up to all this anger in my inbox. I spent yesterday, after having teeth ripped from my skull,all four of them impacted, alternately passing out and throwing up. Yeh, turns out I have an adverse reaction to anesthesia and strong pain killers. My advice for the day, if you can avoid seeing your food in reverse through bloody guaze, by all means, avoid it. I spent the night in excruciating pain because I wouldn't take anymore pain killers to avoid the unpleasantry mentioned above. And I can only eat soft food. I never want to see jello or pudding again as long as I live. The teeth dont even really hurt anymore. My mouth tastes of mangled gums and blood and stitches. My dad couldn't believe the size of the sutures they got in there, I'm a mess. Now I've got a bit to say on the whole East Coast rant. Both parties have made their respective points, and all the anger and harsh words have even prompted some to want to leave the list. I think it's time for a cease fire. As Mr. Peter Carter pointed out to me "If you want a band that's all for the fans, go with Westlife." He's right you know. The whole reason we like belle and sebastian is that their commitment to their music is stronger than anything else. If they were swayed by every whinging fan, then what kind of band would they be. I think most of us understand that for us, who are not directly involved with the band, to expect to have any control over where they go and what they do is a bit ridiculous. In a bit of defence for the angry americans (not much though mind you) it is terribly frustrating to know that your favorite band will be in your country and you won't be able to see them. Still a "Please come and see us over here when you do get the chance" would've been much more appropriat e than the "fuck you for not coming to see us now" that we got. Still, I think Neil's comment about the Kyoto treaty was entirely uncalled for. Making a comment that basically takes a cheap shot at the entire country is not necessary to tell of a few people that have made you angry. The fact that they may have made similarly unreasonable comments is no excuse. If you're going to try to be the voice of reason, you ought to rise above the antics of those being unreasonable. The comment doesn't even make much sense because: A: You cannot assume that because people are upsetting you, they must have voted for an asshole. B: Most of us didn't vote for Bush. C: Most of us HATE Bush. D: An awful lot of us have very pleasant dreams about Bush's assasination. E: A startlingly vast majority of us had absolutely no say in the whole kyoto treaty mess, and believe it or not, seeing as we didn't vote for him, cannot be held responsible for the actions of President Fuckwit and his Fuckwit administration. F: There have been plenty of Americans who defended your side, and they really didn't deserve to be subjected to cheap potshots at their country. So in closing I'd like to suggest that east coasters exercise a little patience, and those who angry east coasters have upset, exercise a little discipline and we can all move on from this needless unpleasantry and let the list return to being solely a group of happy hugging fucked in the head psycho fans that we've all grown to love. Hugs for each and every one of you, Kara Jean* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the strokes!:)
by Kin WOO 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

hellooo fellow sinisterinies!:) loooong time no chat but here's a brief rundown on what's the haps. Finished my 2 weeks in cancer which was surprisingly interesting. Guess anything would be after the 4 stultifyingly boring weeks of musculoskeletal. Was pretty intense though - a few patients passed away during the 2 weeks and one of the most awkward things to happen to me must be in the outpatient clinics where docs walk out of the room after telling patients bad news leaving me with the distraught patient. Hard to make the usual idle chit chat then... Also did 2 weeks in my option Management of Heroin Abuse now which is very interesting. Part of it is based in Dr George O'Neill's clinic (the Naltrexone doc) and part at this govt-sponsored clinic (central treatment services) which does the methadone programme. naltrexone is used to detox patients off heroin and stop craving. it's so wierd. you get some total skanks (sorry really bad word cos I definitely empathise with a lot of them) and bums off the street, and then you get people who really want to get off. Like this 20 yr old girl who was off heroin (occasionally using speed), 4 months pregnant and living in a house with no running water or electricity and social security wasn't paying her - I mean it's such a heartbreaking experience. The ones I really feel for are those really young kids whose father are also users and they really want to get off but forces are arrayed against them like they're homeless or whatever. you just feel so bad that you want to just let them stay at yr house or something. Also saw a doc being detoxed. guess which profession? Anaesthestics!!!:) Was pretty wierd and he was pretty stunned by everything cos his partners were trying to get him struck off and his wife was horrified blah blah. Felt really sorry for him too. so yeah a REAL eye opener. Also had my one and only 2 week break for the year where I planned to do catch-up study and plan my elective but did neither-aarrgh!:) but did have a really nice, relaxing break where I caught some great gigs (after a LONG drought mind). I saw Stephen Malkmus (ex-frontman of Pavement) and that was a really good gig. Have you heard of The Strokes? apparently hottest band from NYC, NME salivating over them etc etc? (if you have, whaddya think of 'em). well i got to interview them!!!:) For the pelican (my university newspaper) It was pretty cool-my 1st band interview. Made sure to do my homework on 'em so I wouldn't appear clueless. interviewed Nick Valensi the guitarist. thought it went quite well heehee:) Also got advance copy of album ("Is this it" which is brilliant) and free tix to their gig which was totally awesome. I was standing too close to the stage though and I got mild deafness the next day-woohoo! next up am trying to interview some of the bands on Twisted Nerve for Pelican (hopefully andy votel and/or Alfie) cool huh? the Strokes album "is this it?" is also very excellent. was surprised since it isn't the type of music I like normally but I love it!:) Any other strokes fans out there. have now been confirmed for the London hospitals i applied to for my elective. will be doing a month of paeds at Guy's hospital and then 2 weeks of a&e at whipps cross. all very exciting! am also hoping to visit my friend at Harvard before that and to backpack around europe. Am now doing a term in obstetrics and gynaecology which is cooler than I thought. what this term basically entails is helping to deliver babies and doing pap smears and learning about pregnancy, labour, and other 'women's problems'. First of all delivery shifts can be very cool (or very frustrating). Despite all the blood and pain, nothing beats the experience of helping to deliver a baby and seeing mum with her baby for the 1st time. awwww the heart melts! ahh the miracle of childbirth! so yeah that's pretty trippy. eeek have written a very long email, must sign off now seeya, hear from you soon Kin Woo "With a star upon your shoulder Lighting up the path as you walk" Stuart Murdoch +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: a possible cheery-bye
by Amy Jackson 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

i think i might "do a dafyd" and depart the list. why? cos i am sick to the back teeth of seeing posts about "oh, they won't play in my town, how inconsiderate" blah-de-fuckin-blah. who cares? at least they've been touring. i always thoght the thng about sinister was that if you couldn't get to a show then you could look on the list and find a post from someone who had. and as for the "but they've completely missed out the north east" malarky, well boo-hoo, what a shame. what about the b&s fans from right up the north of scotland (yes there are people living north of inverness), or wales or god knows what other countries that they haven't played before. america does not get first dibs on where they play, same as any other country. it is up to the band where they play and if they want to concentrate on the west coast then fine, let them. some of you people are so up your own arses, you are like wheels. sorry if this has offended anyone. actually, i'm not. amy xx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I thawed in a war
by Robert Brennan 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

Well blow me down if it aint been the fightin'est few weeks on Sinister ever. GRRR! That'll teach you to be informative and even-handed, Neil. And poor old Iceland caught in the crossfire. What did they ever do? I like this new gangsta thread with the east coast/west coast beef goin' on as well! Can't we all just get along? Genevieve said about the rumoured Jolie/B&S hookup: "let's all go see Original Sin to celebrate" Apparently it's a pretty bad film but then it couldn't possibly be worse than Tomb Raider which is the worst film I've ever paid 6 quid to see. Bad bad bad. Miller Mentioned: "The Ken P. Chu Appreciation Society" Which is a grate idea. There's a T-Shirt opportunity here - something like the BSPD T-Shirt adapted to read "KPYC". There's at least 1500 customers for whoever makes those. Corduroy Boy Tom works in a box factory! Better still it sounds just like the box factory from The Simpsons 'I didn't do it' episode (the one where Bart becomes a celebrity after getting on Krusty's show). Fantastic! The picnic on the 25th sounds like a lark - especially the not-climbing-hills part. I might even make it this time so I'd better dye me pants red. Chill! Robster ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I think I'm ready for some jelly
by Apps Ben (Mr B) 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

my dear jolies, I don't know. 3 or 4 mentions on sinister and my 4 stringed guitar has gone all pretentious on me. Says he's not coming to the next picnic unless he 'has his own car'. well I'm not giving in to his demands. There must be dozens of young hopefuls queuing up to have Asm Awlton's nimble fingers dancing on their neck <Gosh!>. I'm gonna bring percussion instead. can I join the growing chorus of chaps and chapesses dying to hear about the Bendicannibalism festival? I left my school I left my job: Well I left my job. I quit the pub where I work at evenings and weekends, over an embarrassing situation with the landlords (frighteningly young) niece. That's not what I told my friends, so I guess this is a kind of confessional. I was seduced, while drunk, and now I'm running scared - ashamed of my behaviour, but haven't got the balls to face the consequences. Just off to buy some second hand red knickers Ben xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Rule it out!
by Neil Robertson 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

For fuck's sake. In future I won't bother keeping people updated then. It's funny. Only yesterday I was discussing with someone how I've never met an American who voted for George Bush. Well, maybe in Julie I've found one. I've rarely seen such a case of American-centric shit in my life. Let me re-iterate. There are many, many places where we have never played, where people have been waiting for a few years. I think it is only fair to go to these places before we start returning to places we have already been. Is this not a fair statement? Seemingly not. Julie, tell you what. Why don't you write a letter to everyone in Japan explaining that B&S can't come after all because you are more important? > How considerate of you to play for the good people of Iceland And you have the balls to say I'm insulting? Fuck's sake. Does no-one from Iceland take offence at that? There's plenty of people in Iceland who have been waiting for years to see the band. Really, do you think you're more important than the people in Iceland? I'll tell you something. You're not. Honestly, you're not. And you're not more important than the people in Australia, or Brazil, or New Zealand, or Italy, or Croatia or Turkey or Taiwan or Norway or any other fucking place. WE DO NOT HAVE TIME TO DO MORE US DATES IN SEPTEMBER. We have other commitments as soon as the West Coast dates are finished. Sometime, hopefully the first half of next year, we will have caught up and will be able to come back to New York and, more importantly, Philadelphia and Toronto. But the more time I spend answering shit like this, the less time I have to sort out concerts. I don't know too many managers who spend so much time on unofficial fansites, trying to keep in touch with the fans. I only stepped in because people started claiming there were going to be more US dates. I thought I'd just clear up any confusion. I really didn't expect to get fucking slaughtered for it. I'll think twice next time about keeping yous informed. Cheers Julie. Nice work on the Kyoto Treaty by the way. Neil Robertson > You know, the times when I've had the opportunity to agree with Brian > Pennington have been few and far between. > I wasn't going to say anything about this whole west coast tour thing, > because I didn't really care that much. But this email from Neil Robertson > pissed me off subconsciously, as I woke up this morning annoyed. > Belle & Sebastian have very rarely acted like professionals, and their fans > have passed it off as charming. Oh, they won't be photographed, isn't that > cute! But the people Neil's email was directed to were not the NME, they > were the fans who have been buying imports, flying to the UK for festivals, > and crouched over their computers listening to Peel Sessions for years on > end. But to wait for ages for news of a tour, and then to be answered with > a chiding "Just wait your turn!" is a little fucking idiotic. One half > assed mini tour in 1998 where half the dates were cancelled does not a good > excuse to blow off more than half a country make. If you can't afford an > east coast tour, or you have no time, or you just don't WANT to because you > spent a few weeks there not long ago working on the Todd Solondz thing > (without scheduling any shows), say that. But don't play the fucking > martyr, Neil, it's not becoming. Clearly you are shocked that those of us > who saw the band several years ago, or possibly stood in the venue waiting > for a show that would never happen, would dare to ask for more shows. Oh, > but we have to wait while the rest of the world gets graced with the > presence of Belle & Sebastian. How considerate of you to play for the good > people of Iceland. (I noted that the entire center of the United States and > Canada was omitted from Neil's list. Really, if you're going to make sure > everyone gets a turn, don't forget Bolivia, and India, and fucking > Minneapolis.) It is painfully apparent here that touring for Belle & > Sebastian is not a matter of satisfying fans, it is a matter of convenience > for the band, and where the band feels like going. Which, once again, is > fine, if you're just going to be up front about it. But that email was not > a reassurance in any way to those of us on the east coast, it's a kick in > the teeth. Just to get things straight. > This email from Neil Robertson is the biggest bunch of defensive garbage > I've ever seen from a supposed professional in my life. And I'm insulted. > Which is irrelevant, but shouting about it made me feel a little better. > > -Julie > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I Left My Brain In Cash Converters
by Peter Miller 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

HEY! Belle and Sebastian is an ASSHOLE for not playing EASTCOAST! etc. If Chip Taylor is Jon Voight's brother, how come he isn't called Chip Voight? I did lunch with DAVID MOORE and his lovely wife MRS PAM. We talked about YOU. It was very pleasant. The Ken P. Chu Appreciation Society might like to know that the book SOUL MOUNTAIN by Gao Xingjian contains the following: "There are still plenty of people who can sing the dirges. In the Jingzhou and Jiangling regions where the Chu people originate, the dirges have been transmitted to the present. They are known also as tub-beating songs and are performed with wine libations by village Daoists... When Zhuangzi was in mourning for his wife he beat on a tub and sang, treating mourning as a joyous event. His singing, I expect, was very loud... There are vestiges of the tiger totem everywhere among the Ba people and in the Chu region." Apart from this the book is BOR-ING. BENICASSIM REPORT I didn't go. But I bet it was good. BASS! It's CLEAR VINYL, not PERSPEX! And you call yourselves musicians... I wonder if the crowd looks a funny shape when Stuart looks through it on stage? Like a massive Monster Munch advert or something. THE PINES I've got a badge, I have. I'm off now, Sister Disco +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Barcelona - help
by Vanessa Roseline Siegl 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

Hello, and please excuse the list abuse. I am stuck in Barcelona after visting the benicassim festival (it was great!!!) with no place to staz. If there is anyone in the area willing to put me up for tonight you will have my eternal greatfulness and I will send zou a present once I get back or return the favour. I will be around for about an hour now and check in a little later while walking around looking for hostels although it does not look good. Also if anyonbe knows of any hostels, cheap nightclubs to spend the night, please write ... Vanessa +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: fallen stars and icons of 1983
by Chim-Chim 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

to begin with: i sincerely apoligize for the BLANK email you all just recieved from me. it's just me and my clumsy paws. in two weeks i will be moving to virginia. i have only been to virginia THREE times in my life. I am going down for my first year in college. My aspiration and cosy dream for my future: a high school english teacher. and the more times i am stirred into the conversation of leaving, the most heard line is "you're about to begin your life" So these past 18 years haven't counted? Perhaps, for some, true love is life. or maybe children or that perfect job money freedom your own car your own dilbert coffee mug but i think that these past 18 years have been quite a life in their own, thank you very much. The last thing i want to do is forget about the time we tried to raise an alive grandmother from the dead. (unsuccessful... if you'd believe it) Cause i swear i was living when i found that dead squirrel and carried it in a beach towel. i don't want to forget about a dogwood tree, or those goddamn raffi songs, or...even....all of those horrible horrible hair cuts so i am begining my life, am i? eep. some one comfort me rambling Dean Moriarity's twitch much love deer in headlights alice virginia ===== adjectives on the typewriter he moves his words like a prize fighter the frenzy pace of the mind in side itself *say it all* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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