January 2002 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: meaNwHiLe iN a LuXuRy docKLanD h0mE...
by velocity farewell 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

Hello everyone, it's weird being at work, being in an office with 10 other people, and have 'the boy with the arab strap' on your pooter's cd player... people typing, talking on the phone whilst 'sleep the clock around' is playing.. it could have made a brill video-clip, i'm telling you... there's been a lot of emails but it seems to me that things in sinister-land have been very quiet... but then it's just me... I lately feel like those people in prison... carving little lines on the wall to keep count of the days they've spent in my cell... eight weeks... sorry, nine weeks... in nine weeks i'll take my passport, my oNe-Way-TicKet to London, my luggages, and off I go! I can't believe that something i've been planning for so long is going to be realised at last... moving to glasgow feels like going back home somehow... and paul and nicholas are going with me... and stay-c (dahling) is going to join us in august (august stayc!! not september!!)... I've spent last night talking on the phone with Nicholas and then with Ruvi and then with Paul making plans... Nicholas said we should have a booze cabinet and I could keep the key for it! I said it should be a golden key which i'd hang from my belt... you remember, like in Isabel Allende's book "the house of the spirits" where the sister and housekeeper was having a big chain with all the keys of the house hanging from her belt... And we're going to have a garden too... and I'll do my gardening with a big hat on with a veil, mind, and gloves... and Nicholas will buy me an old rocking chair to put in the garden where i'll be sitting in summer days and embroider with my little cousin, Honey, sipping ice strawberry tea and munching on barbie candies... it was just 2 weeks ago when everyone was here... Paul, Stay-C and Zozo... we celebrated my birthday throwing cake to each other and drinking a huge bottle of champagne; actually, paul and stayc drank that before i and zozo had a chance!! We went to this mexican restaurant where we had caipirinias (latin american coctails) and got all emotional as we realised that sinister gave us the best friends we could have wished for... i don't want to get all corny now... and i'm not fucking twee, but yes it's true... so we had a toast to sinister and to our honeyioschka bambola and to all the people we wished they were there with us to share all this... I had to share my bed the first night with zozo and the next with stayc... you see, i couldn't have them fighting over me!! what a tart I am!! and we spent half night (or more?) with stayc talking about glasgow... and that night, after i fell asleep, she stayed awake thinking... next day they all got into a cab and went to thessaloniki... from there stayc would go to bulgaria to have her visa re-newed... the cab broke half the way to thessaloniki and paul missed his flight! eventually and thanks to zozo he found himself on another plane, different airlines though... so things worked out for him... but not for stayc whose adventures you must all have read... in a way i think that things worked out fine for my badass sistah! she needed a kick at that cute bum of hers you see... so after a sleepless night, a huge bottle of champagne, chocolate cake all over her, 3-4 caipirinias, and being deported from greece, she got her arse in gear and decided to move to glasgow with us! now she's in london ready to visit some of you, so consider yourselves warned! and i should stop ranting and go back to work, go back to book hunting... i hate latin books!! grrr... all these crazy uni professors!! fuck 'em all! fuck 'em with knives!!! take good care vel xxx PS(1): the PF! "but i used to read about you/ and you oftenly would throw caution to the wind/ and don't you know/ you really are the sweetest thing..." I wanted your new phone number but your editor said you'd moved and noone had it yet... could you please please email and give your phone number to me? I want to ring you... sorry for using monsieur Cole to persuade you... PS(2): I loved Kyla's email... it was honest and even harsh in parts but great nevertheless... Kyla, email me... i've been a lazy sod i know... PS(3): My Genova (pookiehotpantslove) the arms of sex don't belong to stuart but to the boy jimmy reid!i've spent hours and hours watching jamc video tapes and i kept swooning over jimmy's arms! get your tutu skirt ready... we're going to sweep them all off their feet with our go-go dancing figures!! PS(4): Andrew!! yes you!! email me damnit!! tis your turn!!! PS(5): KenKenickie, do you fancy a take-away? PS(6): I for once agree with mr murdoch and say that yes, the camera obscura album is one of the best i've listened to this year! you should all buy it!!! PS(7): have i told you that we're all going to visit ARchel(licious mou) in Brighton and have a picnic there in ApRil?? no? well we bloody aRe!! PS(8): end of the boy with the arab strap cd... time for some galaxie500!! "waR is the last possible cReative act", Mick Travis, "IF" "true creation will rise from the ruins of the old world..." Isidor Isou __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: San Francisco Indiefest?
by Ian Rivamonte 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

Hi, I apologize for the listservers since there is no B&S content in here. But, since everyone in this list is "in the know," does anyone happen to know what this San Francisco Indiefest happening at the Castro Theatre on 31 January is all about? I saw it on Ticketmaster and for $20 (plus applicable service charges), you get to go to the "indiefest" and the after party. They recommend that persons arrive 15 minutes early?!?!? Huh? First of all, who is in said "indiefest" and, secondly, what the hell is it all about? Please explain. I've lost touch with society since I've enrolled in law school.... Cheers, Ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Your life is music, but my life is lipgloss
by Mark Hester 23 Jan '02

23 Jan '02

No don't worry, the subject line was overheard on a bus somewhere between the Gateshead Metro Centre and Hexham, just after Christmas. Which reminds me of how long it is since I last posted. All of the things that happened at the end of last year which mean little now but were significant at the time, like unexpectedly seeing my boss at a Stereolab gig. R. Dean Taylor should count himself lucky. He only had a ghost in his house. On Saturday, I discovered that I have a *mouse* in mine. Well, I didn't climb onto a chair clutching my skirt and shouting "Eek!" or anything, but it did give me enough of a fright to drop the plate I was drying at the time (having just washed up after dinner) and it fell onto the floor and smashed. Now this experience led me to embark on a frenzy of cleaning; never has so much Cif been expended in a single afternoon. It also means that when Mark C innocently enquires: "How many of you can honestly say that..... you've cleaned the INSIDE of your kitchen dustbin? Huh?" I'm afraid I have to answer in the affirmative. And I still have a job, well, for the time being at least. There is a battle going on upstairs between various members of the family which runs this firm (which has the same name as the second half of the company that makes Branston pickle, he adds cryptically) as to whether to float on the Stock Exchange or sell the company to someone else. This is the company where one member of the clan died leaving all his millions to a rare-breeds sheep farm and we shudder every time we think of what was going to be our bonus providing a nice centrally-heated barn so that our ovine friends can chomp away at the contents of their Fortnum & Mason hampers in comfort. If there's any consolation, it means I get to use the word "internecine" a lot. The only school and uni friend (he happened to be both) whom I have met up with, as opposed to just contacted, through "Friends Reunited" was working in Human Resources for enron, so everything is relative. Have a go at my quiz why don't you: http://friendtest.com/viewquiz.php?account=marksquiz Aren't these things marvellous? I've done two so far, Ken's and Archel's. I found Ken's vewy, vewy difficult and so wasn't surpised at the (ahem) modest score I attained. Ernie Sanchez's list was *very* useful; well done Ernie! So they've played the eponymous song live then? I love B&S by B&S but it's so rarely talked about. It's one of the songs I find myself singing to myself as I walk down the road. I think Nine Eponymous Songs should be a game like Nine Famous Belgians. You could argue about whether to allow "(Hey You) The Rocksteady Crew", on account of its brackety bits, much as people argue about whether or not Tin Tin, Hercule Poirot and Stella Artois are kosher members of Tribe 9FB. Chris Perriman quoted from Revelation so I'm going to quote from Jeremiah. Jeremiah 25:27, "The Lord your God says drink get drunk and vomit". Stephen Toy (or is it Toy Stephen) wrote: "Now, through this exchange, we discovered epiphany. We found the etymology for 'Ladybug' conjectured to be: 'Probably from its seven spots being considered a symbol of the seven sorrows of the Virgin Mary'." and I thought "eh?" coz ladybugs (or ladybirds) can have have other numbers of spots too. Lot of 'em have only two. "Fly little bug, get right out of town-uh, use your transparent wings and fly away from here". Blimey, it's ages since I've listened to "The Infotainment Scan". Paul Healy wrote: "also go to see Ballboy(strange friut at the spitz) on Friday" and I certainly will. Vermont are playing as well. And Major somebody. That's if he doesn't get posted. Mark. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname(a)nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: She appears composed, so she is I suppose...
by Christina McDermott 23 Jan '02

23 Jan '02

What do you do when New Years resolutions decide to break themselves? I mean, when you have the best intentions in the world to keep them and you really honestly intend to keep them; but some malignant force, call it fate, call it chance, strikes at you like you're a character out of a Thomas Hardy novel, leaving you to stare at the stars and the sky and scream out loud, "God bless pathetic fallacy." "So why the pessimism now Miss Cola-Cube?" I hear you all cry. I have my reasons.and I find them to be pretty damn valid considering the situation I am currently finding myself in. I'm having problems at the moment and they're akin to being hit in the gut with a sledgehammer, or at least that is what it feels like to me. I don't want to go into much detail, as I've never been one of those people to want to load her woes onto a thousand or so people. I don't know you and you don't know me so why should many of you hear the collected woes of a woman living (to many of you) thousands of miles away? So please enlighten me as to what to do when the one resolution you really wished that fate would let you keep.i.e. being happy and for those around you to be happy, no matter what the situation, are smashed right in front of your face? When words are said and the only thing you can think is "Oh my God, what am I going to do?" and the only emotion you feel is an icy current running through your blood and settling right at the base of your stomach that no warmth can thaw. I'm sure Miss Llew would have a gloriously witty Dorothy Parker-ism to alleviate the storm clouds in situations like these, or Mr. Chu would have a pun to bring a smile when your expression feels carved in stone. Then again, I only got 30% in his personality test so maybe I don't know him as well as I thought I did. (I got 0% in Gneissy's, but that's my fault for not knowing that he can fit into size 10 dresses.) I can only say to those on this who know the situation that I'm currently in and for all their kind words, smiles and phone calls leading them to get locked out of their workplace a big thank you. You know who you are, and you know I'm grateful. As to the lovely (and seriously mushy!) Ben Apps, tank choo for the sweeties. They're going to come in useful. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Isn't it nice when your gig is promoted without you even having to breathe a word about the forthcoming event? I was going to bore you all with the details and death threats of "Be there or I'll kidnap your teddy bear and send it back to your in stuffing-ridden pieces," but thanks to the lovely combined efforts of Mr. Carsmile and Mr. Apps, my stage has already been set, so I'll enter stage left. My gig is on the 11th (That's a MONDAY, not a TUESDAY) somewhere in Oxford.Mr. Carsmile and the lovely Matt Wilson (who is also on the list but lurks I the shadows like the wee lurky thing he is) know more about the venue than I, because I'm merely a London girly and therefore ignorant about all things outside Zone 6. But yes; do come. It will be fun! My band are called the EndlessCityLights and we sound like what the Velvet Underground, Mogwai and The Shang-gri-las would sound like if they all held hands, kissed in public, got drunk and indulged in illicit insemination with only a turkey baster and a rather glamorous young girl with a clarinet (that being me). Support comes from Welsh shang-a-lang drunken wonders "The Loves" who not only have the fact that one of my best friends is their guitarist in their favour, but also the fact that they're on Track and Field records which can only ever be a good thing. Main act are Delicate AWOL, post-rock lushness with a bitter aftertaste. And there should be a club afterwards and stuff too with me, Matt and some of our friends' dj'ing. I don't usually shamelessly promote things via the Internet.but this one involves me and it's just after the Brighton Weekender too (which I shall be gracing with my presence. ) and it's only £2 and it should be immense fun. Oh, and everyone should go to Carsmile's night too because that should be fun-filled-frolics galore. I've been listening to too much old Elliot Smith recently. My lovely friend Marianne leant me nearly all of his old albums, so I've been sat here back at home in the sunshine, relishing the fact that I have nice food, a clean kitchen and lovely parents to indulge in and listening to songs which shimmer in the sun like beautiful, poisonous flowers. Apologies for the self-indulgence before, but whilst I'm on a roll I may as well add to my tally. Dammit, everywhere I go all I see are people holding hands and being all couply in the Winter Sun. I either want a Sinister romance or more people to be bitter with, as me and my friends are getting a bit fed up with being the only ones now. Even Saint Peter seems to be on a bit of a roll now, and he's a bloody archangel. Any takers for either position? Right. This is perhaps the most self-indulgent post I've ever sent so I'll bow out with a blush and the shuffling of my feet. Oh but LIST CONTENT!! Jordi-If on the Benicassim Belle and Sebastian show you hear a mad English girl and boy jumping up and down and singing rather loudly.that'll be me and the boy in the tree. I can only hope and pray they've not broadcast my interview with MTV yet. Love and Fizzy Love-hearts, Cay Cola-Cube xXx "If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your Revolution..." -Emma Goldman +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: An artisantry of pelvis
by Kenneth P Y Chu 23 Jan '02

23 Jan '02

Hello sinisters, I shall begin by quoting from the end. my misslindseylou said: >>and finally. a final word about love. it's there. and here. just wait, patiently, and the pregnant feeling of wating will one day break and then. << miscarriage. Cripes I'm feeling pessimistic today. Maybe I'm just let down by the fact that I stayed up for the hollioakes late-night special last night, and there wasn't even any shagging. (Well there was but you couldn't see any of it).. and I only caught the very end of "Designer Vaginas" on Channel 4. Ho hum. Speaking of which (love): Rachel Pancake said: >>P.S.I _LOVE_ SIMON and GARFUNKEL. But which one is which? Answers are to >>describe them as either "the taller, blonde one" or "the shorter, dark haired one". Thankyou v. much<< Simon is Paul Simon and Garfunkel is the one who isn't Paul Simon. i.e. the one with the bad hair is Art Garfunkel and the other one with bad hair is Paul Simon, wait, I'm not being very helpful here am I? I want to have Garfunkel's vocal range, then I could sing like a bird.. speaking of North Carolina........ Andre Agassi said: >>And that Laura Llew and I are not meant to be, since I got a big, fat zero....*sigh*<< Guess who got a whooping 100% on Laura's quiz? My place or yours Llewie? ;) Woo, I haven't used one of those ;) thingies on sinister for ages, and now I've used two, such is the magic of Laura Llew, she just caused me to start rhyming, too. And still speaking of North Carolina... Hello Aruni, who said I'm encouraging to Strangers, it's true. Until they get to know me then they start to hate me. Find out how much you hate me on http://www2.friendtest.com/viewquiz.php?account=kenchu Yay! I've got one of these too! Wow, this e-mail flowed so well. Check list.. 1. talked about love - check 2. flirted in public - check 3. added a friendlist url - check 4. can't remember.. feck Tenuous Links and Red bulls. Ken _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: follyfoot, twee-hop and cheese
by R.Playforth＠sussex.ac.uk 23 Jan '02

23 Jan '02

unfortunately, archel's super-helpful information service has already been rendered obsolete by rob brennan, but the theme about the lightning tree is indeed the one from follyfoot. i never really watched the programme, but the follyfoot farm books were great. i am trying very hard to read some adult books these days, but still fall back on joan aiken, ursula le guin, susan cooper, philip pullman and j k rowling. oh, and lemony snicket. (i am quite traumatised by 'a series of unfortunate events', to be honest.) racheljoe pancake said: British Hip-hop is actually quite good, i have discovered. Partly as they have tunes, and don't rap about how "tha ******* ho's and tha niggas in da **** hood is all **** gonna kill y'all ******" but about how they're gonna go to the library and then go to the supermarket and afterwards maybe go to the pub... it's sort of "twee-hop" really. Rather good, too. i am now exposed to hip hop on a daily basis and am pretty much a convert (despite fainting at the roots manuva gig in brighton). but it's not only british hip hop that can do that charming 'went to safeways, had some cheese on toast' thing. archel's recommendations for blingbling-free, nearly twee hip hop: 1/ buck 65 - canadian lyrical genius, raps about his mother's death and how tough it would be if you were a centaur and actually hung like a horse (albums: vertex, man overboard) 2/ ty - british MC, raps about being bullied at school and being a bit crap with girls (album: awkward) 3/ slug - part of the group atmosphere, sweet confessional material about a failed relationship, tattoos which come to life, and the gorgeous 'nothing but sunshine' (albums: lucy ford, music for the advancement of hip hop) (atmosphere appeared at atp last year, and curators tortoise have produced them - just in case anyone needs proof of their indie credentials...) even you will like some of this, tom, i guarantee it! that said, i still managed to insinuate a large helping of CHEESE into matt's purchases when we went vinyl shopping the other day: betty boo - doing the do; peter gabriel - sledgehammer (dance mix); simple minds - don't you forget about me. the latter doesn't stop being shit just because it's from the breakfast club, of course, but the sleeve photo of the kidz was too tempting... other news: 1/ i missed the belfast gig on radio 1 and please someone do me a tape (will exchange for cheesy mix) 2/ i am finally holding a Buzzwords summit meeting tonight so the site should be updated and lovely very soon 3/ brighton meetup in 17 days! luv archel xxx ps. welcome aruni! pps. http://www.anticon.com ppps. http://www2.friendtest.com/viewquiz.php?account=archel ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.org.uk for the best new writing on the web. Email submissions to buzzwords(a)bigfoot.com <nb: site undergoing maintenance> +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: *tap tap tap*...is this thing on?
by Aruni J 23 Jan '02

23 Jan '02

<screechy microphone noise> greetings and salutations, sinister! my name's aruni and i'm a first-timer. (hello, aruni!) i was inspired, or perhaps incited, to post by the illustrious Ken Chu. so if you all despise the post...well, you can still blame me, but it'll teach Mr. Chu to be so encouraging to strangers. i suppose what finally brought me to break the lurking barrier was the wave of newbies (i am a sheep, i admit it), and the various and sundry interesting things that people have to say. (i wish i could promise the same for you. truly, i am in the presence of genius.) let's see...i'm a med student living in north carolina (hi to everyone in the southern united states), and currently preparing for my neuroanatomy final. couldn't you tell? by way of actual content, i have little enough. my favorite thing about b&s is the way their songs build (but isn't that everyone's favorite thing?). and oh! someone said way back that "I Love My Car" smacks of the Beatles when they were fooling around, and i shook with wholehearted agreement! something about the way SM sings "the day will come soon when i look in your eyes but i won't see you" sounds very beatles-esque to me. sorry for the lateness and probable obscurity of this reply; i was still banging on the nursery bars at the time. so oh yes, the things that people said: Pez asked: so did anybody try my recipe then? its tasty, i promise. i did! last weekend, and thanks for the suggestion. my mother used to make something similar for me when i was a little girl, and a comparison with my mother's cooking is high praise, from me at least. i approve. Toy Stephen mentioned the serendipitous beauty of Sri Lanka, and i just had to respond. my parents are from Sri Lanka! it was a lovely little island the last time i saw it (10 years ago), but sadly, a troubled one as well. still, maybe the turmoil makes that beauty more striking. Ben expressed confusion over the fact that "CAMERA OBSCURA was formed in August of 1998 in San Diego" this amused and confused me as well. what with all the talk about camera obscura on this list, i set out to find out more about them on cdnow.com, and came up with...west coast agressive rock (or at least that was my impression)? with more digging, i found a blurb stating that "Eighties Fan" was produced by "Stewart Marduk of belle & sebastian." all right, who else knew that SM is an ancient Babylonian god? i'm so out of the loop. but thanks muchly to those of you who recommended camera obscura and their record--it has brought me gladness of heart and auditory nerve. and with that, i join the ranks of the post-first-posters! (i'm going to go cringe and hide now.) ~aruni _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: songs B&S haven't performed live
by Ernie Sanchez 23 Jan '02

23 Jan '02

Ok, I know that I said that I'd post to the list again with this information so here it is, in case any of you were looking for it. Here is a list of the songs that B&S haven't performed live. Well, a lot of the early songs may very well have been performed live in the past, or even recently in a show that hasn't been recorded, I'm just going by reviews/recordings that are available. So, apologies to Sinister if some of this list is inaccurate: Just a Baby Electronic Renaissance (still one of the top B&S tracks, although I doubt that this will ever be performed live - can't a boy dream?) Mary Jo Beyond the Sunrise Waiting for the Moon to Rise The Chalet Lines Nice Day for A Sulk String Bean Jean (although the Japanese tour may have ended that, I've been informed that they performed this at a show) The Gate Judy is a Dick Slap Take Your Carriage Clock and Shove It Marx and Engels There are a few songs that have only been performed once or twice, here are some of them: Expectations Put the Book Back on the Shelf I Could Be Dreaming Personally, I think that these should be performed live. They are neglecting some of their best songs! Maybe we can convince them to play one of these songs at an upcoming concert? I know that some, like "TYCCASI" and "WFTMTR" aren't made for a live setting, but I am hoping... Cheers, Ernie _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: goodbye, i can see you walking til you're running away
by lindsey baker 23 Jan '02

23 Jan '02

hello sinister. and so i have learned how to breathe again. after months of holding my breath, waiting for something, aticipating the pending, there has been a death and a birth and i have remembered that i must both inhale and exhale. now it's overhead. my recommendation. and now. for a story. about a boy. his house is just like the rest in the neighborhood, maybe a little smaller but definitely nice. the white paint outside made the thing look like a house constructed of clapboard, a nice literary term that every writer wants to use at least once a year when describing homes. those irritating icicle lights were strung up against the eave, and i suspect they're there year-round, welcoming the people going inside. and the welcome was a surprise. the pictures of him might indicate some kind of hidden pain, a thinly veiled and teetering hysteria that might, at any moment, topple over and out of his dark eyes and into another song. and the songs would surely indicate that my sister is right, and he is disturbed, and i shouldn't be anywhere near the boy i have been holding hands with, let alone the house of the hero of this story. but the outside and inside and offered hand were too tempting, so i laughed with a glorified awareness that temptation is satan is jesus is god, and i became, officially, the new girl in the house. of the twenty or so people inside, all were calmly, and quite happily, gathered around a brown bag of overly-salted popcorn with jam glasses of water or wine, and they liked my red jacket. they laughed, and so did i. the boy. the hero. the owner of the house. he is all of these, and his eyes, upon closer inspection, are void of the theatrical madness of the stage and the frenzied gulping of a pitcher or water. instead, they are only the tired eyes of a just-legal man not quite ready to leave omaha again. i shook his hand with my one empty right hand, and his palm was warm and dry, the black bracelet i recognized from the photographs tied firmly in place. and as i sat there, in the house, with one boy in front of me and the other at my side, i realized that people are just people, and we meet and pass. and if we are lucky, we catch the hands of a few passers-by for a while, and hang on long enough to realize that we don't need the hands to hold us up. so ends my story, i think, as someone told me my last post was too long. a few closing matters. i am apparently the second lindsey baker known to mankind, as i was born after the older male version of me. i hope he has better luck in love than do i, though recent happenings here in the heartland bode well for LB#2. props go out to my loves mandee and dave for reasons they well know. i look forward to future summits. and what fun it would be to click the sewing circle needles at a heartland pic-a-nic. hmmm. support saddle creek bands. they work hard. a bit of irreverant content: i am still finding myself listeing to wutu on the trip from lincoln to omaha and back, and am still surprised every time that three songs repeating in such rapid succession doesn't drive me nutty. and finally. a final word about love. it's there. and here. just wait, patiently, and the pregnant feeling of wating will one day break and then. and then. your misslindseylou _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: In this week's episode, Joe finds a secret admirer and Sharon walks out on Brook...
by Joe Vester 22 Jan '02

22 Jan '02

Sinister: The world's greatest soap opera. Where bizarre things that don't happen in real life actually happen! Recently, however, I've noticed that we don't have enough major storylines. So I'm afraid I'm going have to come round and chop somebody's legs off as otherwise, ratings will start flagging. This may produce show's rather remincent of recent events on Hollyoaks. Which I've been watching quite a bit of late. Admitedly, it seems to consist entirely of blonde girls/girls with other hair dyed blonde crying/moaning about how much somebody (usually their parents) hates them. But the important thing about it all is that they are all very _pretty_ blonde girls. But this is the real news, the news of the week, the news of the month if not the year so far! It's really bloody good news, too, which makes a change from the saying that no news is good news. Which is nice isn't it? I hope your pleased when you hear the news. Although one person already knows the news, but I don't know who (hopefully) she or (there is a slight possiblity) he is (yet). Can you guess the news yet? Well, I'll tell you, just in case you haven't worked out what it is. There's a clue in subject line, too. It's really bloody good news isn't it? Have you heard better news while reading this post? I bet you haven't. That's right, though, yours truly has recieved a list crush vote!!! I wonder who it's from!!! Sadly, it's not from my list crush (otherwise, obviously, I'd know who it was) but I do have one idea for who it's from, or rather, who'd I'd like it to be from. Although I suspect it could be merely from somebody who is sotry that I never get a Valentine's. Mind you, if I get a list crush every time I moan about Valentine's day, I'm very willing to do it every day. A few people had thoughts about my A-levels, Rachel Fruitloop nudged me towards Design and the Dirty Vicar advised me not on Theology but on Physics to have some understanding of Science. Pez, as soon as I read your subject line, I thought of Robert Rankin, and yes! you should read them as they are very very good indeed and include that quote. Although I dispute Pez's statement that the make sense. They do sort of, but not the kind of sense you think of when discussing complex logical problems. More the kind of sense you think of when talking about Salvador Dali. Tom, are you and me the same age or thereabouts? I had the misconception that you were more like 18/19 than 15/16, I dunno why. But there you go. Well, Tom said he had never heard a good rap song, but I HAVE. As of yesterday. It's by Roots Manuva and it seems to be about Baked beans and fish and chips. British Hip-hop is actually quite good, i have discovered. Partly as they have tunes, and don't rap about how "tha ******* ho's and tha niggas in da **** hood is all **** gonna kill y'all ******" but about how they're gonna go to the library and then go to the supermarket and afterwards maybe go to the pub... it's sort of "twee-hop" really. Rather good, too. I stil feel hope for my siblings' indiekidism. Ben, it's gonna have to be a bloody big bag-I'm 6'1". And I'd like some airholes please. Otherwise, I have no objections. Archel, feel free to phone, but I warn you, my mother has a particular sort of ESP for telling people who once posted about how they wished more people asked rthem about bollocks. Laura Llew, I'm not worthy to read to you or for that matter, lick your boots as I got 30/100. But I entered as Rachel Pancake so I might re-enter as Joe and see if i got better. !VIVA RACHELS! Love, RachelJoe Pancakes (I myself have forgooten whether "panckes" is plural or otherwise) P.S.I _LOVE_ SIMON and GARFUNKEL. But which one is which? Answers are to describe them as either "the taller, blonde one" or "the shorter, dark haired one". Thankyou v. much P.P.S. "if..." is, as both Tom and I have mentioned very recently a totally wonderful film and I was wondering if Tom or any of the others of you had any idea what the black and white bits were suppossed to mean? If you haven't seen it, do. That's an order. I also noticed that my school is full of people suitable for "whip" positions. And they all go to a very enclosed space every morning....hahaha(cackles). P.P.P.S. Did anyone else feel that they didn't kill enough people at the end of "if...". I'm sorry to be so bloodthirsty. P.P.P.P.S. I meant to mention this last time but I forgot. Can anyone nice send me a nice copy of a taping of the belfast gig? Pretty Pretty please! I just forgot to. Sorry! 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