February 2002 - Sinister

Sinister: Waaaaaaaalk to the station..
by Ben Apps 08 Feb '02

08 Feb '02

wont you follow me down? Ok, for all those going to Brighton tomorrow from London, who realised that there actually are two pubs in Victoria Station all I can say is SPOTTERS BADGE! So I did some research at lunchtime and suggest we meet in or just outside The Iron Duke which is between Burger King and Café Select, but also near to Boots. At 1PM. If you go in the front of the station, its on the LEFT. If you plan to come aboard then send me a note if you havent done already and then we can try not to leave anybody behind. Cool. My mobile number is 07765 102 990, and the good news is its actually working at the moment. Both for making AND receiving calls. I truly am blessed by the good lady fortune. Its gonna be ace!! Pip pip See you tomorrow or see you later Benapps (the phats n small controller) _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the part of my brain that says "stop" doesn't seem to be working.
by Hannah Brown 08 Feb '02

08 Feb '02

This is because i have spent another £50 on records and will probably do the same in two weeks time. I am also feeling really weird but in a fab way. On thursday i had a surge of great excitement and since then i have wanted to do lots of things all at the same time. I feel as though i am on fast forward and am becoming suspicious that someone is putting speed in my tea. I also got a FIRST for my written proposal, and i just feel like screaming "wwwwwwoooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" God, i'm sorry, i have been trying to write sensible posts all day but i keep deleting them because my fingers can't keep up with my head. I woke up at 7:30 this morning and jumped around to Lithium by Nivarna whilst pretending my umberella was a guitar. I also fell over by a tree and a small child laughed at me. I am going to see Ben Christian at Dingwalls on the 18th so if anyone fancy's coming along? I also want to get the electric soft parade album so if anyone who has it could give me a rough rundown of what it is like, that would be cool. Where the smeg has David Strange gone by the way?????? Oh dear mother of mercy what is wrong with me, i am usually quite calm, but right now i feel as though i've got a bag of jumping beans in my belly. I might lock myself in the toilet and jump up and down for a while. boing............... boing....................., love hannah Ps, there was absolutely No content here i just needed to move my fingers. Next time i post there will be a, b&s content b, an element of drowsiness c,some kind of cynicism about something +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: B&S in Belgium
by Aton Vanderwaeren 08 Feb '02

08 Feb '02

Hello... Still no word from Neil or Katrina, but it looks like the European tour is finally going to happen. If it isn't, I have just spent 18 Euros on a useless scrap of paper rather than a ticket for B&S's one and only Brussels gig. Get out your diaries and note: 7th April 2002: Belle & Sebastian @ AB-club If any Belgian listees out there are interested in having a pre-gig meet-up, then mail me off-list and we'll set something up. Bye, Aton Vanderwaeren. Sing the hymn: http://publish.uwo.ca/~charring/egypt/18nouemp.htm Buy the action figure: http://www.toymania.com/334archives/tomland/aton.htm Read the books: http://www.piers-anthony.com/aton.html +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Karaoke; Chicago; Seattle; Apology
by Jennifer Phillips-Bacher 08 Feb '02

08 Feb '02

hello delicious ones! it's 2 a.m. tonight (this morning?) i take on a diaristic tone, if only because it's late and i'm up past my bedtime. additionally, it seems less like list abuse if i write in a confessional style. I begin: Dear diary, tonight I did some karaoke. kicked it off with "these boots are made for walkin'" and finished with a terribly maudlin version of "love song" by the cure (could it really get any more maudlin?). people were weeping, i must confess. a group of attractive hecklers were seated nearby, and lo! one of them was wearing a B&S badge. we shook hands, and off he went. hello if you're out there. so i've been thinking about BOWLING yes BOWLING and I have determined that all of the CHICAGO PEOPLE on the list and I should meet up at Marigold Bowl on Grace & Broadway on Sunday Feb. 17, either in the late afternoon or evening, depending on which time seems the most popular amongst THOSE PEOPLE THAT REPLY! Secondly, on an entirely different, yet pop-related note, o diary, I was wondering if I could possibly be directed to any lovely soul in Seattle who might be interested in joining me on saturday night for Dub Narcotic Sound System & All Girl Summer Fun Band. i'll be in town for something resembling business, and may be lonely and bored. Food consumption: several pieces of toast, with peanut butter; 3 campari & sodas; 3 beers; 1 egg mayonnaise sandwich; several cubes of teriyaki tofu. i hope all of the londoners at Track & Field on Friday night buy my pal Sarah Garrett Sonner a drink or several. oh diary, i have polluted your pristine pages with my unruly penmanship. please forgive me, and allow me to clutter your pages more delicately the next time. and now, I sleep. Jennxo please contact me Seattle and Chicago people! _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the end of our fakery
by MyMomSays＠aol.com 08 Feb '02

08 Feb '02

At approximately 11:30 a.m., February 2, 2002, History was made. An earthshattering decision took place in the backseat of one Nicole Holder's blue Nissan--oh yes, it's true, the legendary band Daniel Tiger decided to split up. The sad bit is, it was my idea. I was curled up against the window, my cheek growing hot from the sunshine, balancing a styrofoam box of scrambled eggs in my lap. Marissa, in the front, fed Nicole bits of pancakes as she drove. I brought it up tentatively, somewhat as a joke, actually. I got a positive response. But the funny part really, is, that Daniel Tiger never existed. What happens after the end of our fakery? The four of us decided on pursuing solo careers--myself recording under the assumed identity of Simone Turner. We kicked around the idea of forming another band called Swimbuddy. Then another one called The Corn Horns. But where's the real ambition? There only seems to be a real motivation to do something that will only amount to a load of more fakery. Around certain people, I am never serious. My friends, for one, my fellow fake band mates, I almost never really talk about what I'm thinking or feeling; I'm nearly always cracking jokes or putting on a silly face. So is this another part of this bizarre friendship where I feel as if I have to constantly be a funnystress? Hmmm. This post, so far, is a bit self-indulgent. But what happens with a fake band becomes real? Do things suddenly seem like they're being showered in fluorescent lighting and nothing really seems as interesting as it used to be? Certainly, being serious, not being fake, it all seems like a bit too much responsibility, wouldn't you agree? So what is it with this phenomenon of "fake" bands--of fictional bands? Why does this happen? Is it lack of musicianship? Some sort of post-modern mockery? Just as a side note: Dimitra and Gneissy's posts were lovely. I am sorry I did not tell you both that earlier. Oh, and, if any of you write fiction, e-mail me privately. We must chat. Toddling off, Mandee +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I dream of a Ledaean body, bent above a sinking fire
by Genevieve Wesley 08 Feb '02

08 Feb '02

Dear Sinister, I hope you are all well. I have been enjoying Mark C's posts about his furious cleaning habits. I'd hire him to put some of that energy around here so that I could stop using the floor and actually study from a desk...alas there's too many socks piled on it. I was listening to the recent Christmas show B&S played in Glasgow, how lovely the whole night sounded! Everyone happy and singing along with drunken rosy cheeks. Just what is this disco-y 'Cool for Cats' song that everyone knew? I feel like it's some big in-joke that I'm just not getting, like "shoddaywodday". Now what's this, a Belle and Sebastian treasure hunt? David Moore why didn't you tell us?!? I ventured to your K Watson link and stumbled upon the news. ************************************************************************ http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/ Too much time on your hands? There is to be a treasure hunt. In the cities of Edinburgh, Manchester and London there will be hidden three trophies. If you find one of these trophies, you and a friend will be able to come to whichever B&S British show you want, all three if you so desire. And at one of the shows you can come back and have a beer with us if you'd like, as well. All you have to do is find one of the things! But I'm not going to make it that easy. It's going to be a wee bit of a task, and your going to have to know something about the city in which you are looking. You are going to have to find letters. I will give you a clue as to the location of each letter. When you have found them all, unscramble the letters and get the final clue that ought to lead you to the loot! More details, and the clues to follow in the next couple of weeks. I trust there will be a few you that will make the effort. And I tell you this, whoever finds the London one will really have to strain their brains! But we'll see.. Stuart ************************************************************************ I've always wanted to do a real one, even after reading Christopher Pike's Scavenger Hunt! It all seems so fun and plus Struan is sounding all mysterious and Willy Wonkaish. I love the suspense. Can't you just imagine slightly evil oompa loompas in specially-fitted tiny cardigans escorting you to a secret lair? Délicieux! The ultimate prize should be that after resisting him for the whole day Struan and I dance that final pas de deux between the nutcracker prince and the sugar plum fairy in The Nutcracker. It could all be so beautiful. Kisses, Genevieve p.s. If anyone wants to mail me for fun their thoughts concerning the Yeats poem "Leda and the Swan" feel free. I won't complain! _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I dream of a Ledaean body, bent above a sinking fire
by Genevieve Wesley 08 Feb '02

08 Feb '02

Dear Sinister, I hope you are all well. I have been enjoying Mark C's posts about his furious cleaning habits. I'd hire him to put some of that energy around here so that I could stop using the floor and actually study from a desk...alas there's too many socks piled on it. I was listening to the recent Christmas show B&S played in Glasgow, how lovely the whole night sounded! Everyone happy and singing along with drunken rosy cheeks. Just what is this disco-y 'Cool for Cats' song that everyone knew? I feel like it's some big in-joke that I'm just not getting, like "shoddaywodday". Now what's this, a Belle and Sebastian treasure hunt? David Moore why didn't you tell us?!? I ventured to your K Watson link and stumbled upon the news. ************************************************************************ http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/ Too much time on your hands? There is to be a treasure hunt. In the cities of Edinburgh, Manchester and London there will be hidden three trophies. If you find one of these trophies, you and a friend will be able to come to whichever B&S British show you want, all three if you so desire. And at one of the shows you can come back and have a beer with us if you'd like, as well. All you have to do is find one of the things! But I'm not going to make it that easy. It's going to be a wee bit of a task, and your going to have to know something about the city in which you are looking. You are going to have to find letters. I will give you a clue as to the location of each letter. When you have found them all, unscramble the letters and get the final clue that ought to lead you to the loot! More details, and the clues to follow in the next couple of weeks. I trust there will be a few you that will make the effort. And I tell you this, whoever finds the London one will really have to strain their brains! But we'll see.. Stuart ************************************************************************ I've always wanted to do a real one, even after reading Christopher Pike's Scavenger Hunt! It all seems so fun and plus Struan is sounding all mysterious and Willy Wonkaish. I love the suspense. Can't you just imagine slightly evil oompa loompas in specially-fitted tiny cardigans escorting you to a secret lair? Délicieux! The ultimate prize should be that after resisting him for the whole day Struan and I dance that final pas de deux between the nutcracker prince and the sugar plum fairy in The Nutcracker. It could all be so beautiful. Kisses, Genevieve p.s. If anyone wants to mail me for fun their thoughts concerning the Yeats poem "Leda and the Swan" feel free. I won't complain! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I Could Dance All Night Like I'm A Soul Girl
by David Moore 07 Feb '02

07 Feb '02

Hi All, The subject was going to be "He remembers Stiff Little Fingers in '78" but someone else already drew attention to that. Rock For Me Belfast Thanks to the band and the Beeb for broadcasting the Belfast gig. Good to hear the full live sound without a load of audience chatter obscuring it. I especially liked the full-on R!O!C!K The Boys Are Back In Town and the eight-hander on The Boy With The Arab Strap. What about the rest though? They didn't broadcast the following songs: My Wandering Days Are Over Slow Graffiti Don't Leave The Light On Baby Cool For Cats Simple Things The Fox In The Snow O Come, O Come, Emmanuel Dog On Wheels Happy Christmas (War Is Over) The strings on Fox In The Snow are beautiful. Please all therefore mail nice Mr Lamacq (steve.lamacq(a)bbc.co.uk) & try to persuade him to air the rest of the concert. WANDERING ALONE At last a clear version where you can make out all the words. Apologies to Stevie Thomas Jackson for any mistakes in my attempt at transcribing the lyrics to his Spanish tale of a fugitive from justice. All corrections welcome. Wandering alone on the ridge of a coast Lost to the world he had known as a boy He knows his lover lies South in the city Passing along in the sleepiest night Warm in the woods that conceal him from light He is accustomed to hiding from people Taking his time as he crosses a bridge Holding the flowers he picked from the ridge Walking in shadows to his Senorita Safe in the dawn he gets under the sheets His Senorita heavenly sweet Soul(?) that was put there to save and protect him <instrumental break, some pizzicato> He knows her time cannot endlessly go Traps will be set by the people below She would be caught too and he could not bear it Hoping for freedom he can almost touch Both take for granted as they walk to church He says his prayers and God listens to him "Sir, all I want is the chance to amend Past infidelities. Please do not send Me far away from my wise Me far away from my wise Me far away from my wise Senorita Senorita" There. Someone should do Nothing In The Silence, or better still The Magic Of A Kind Word, if only to convince me that Stuart doesn't actually keep singing "Shake, Mother Goose" throughout it. Keith Watson Fans of Mr Dandycock who miss his contributions to Sinister will have to content themselves with his submission to B&S' Top 10s page where he rates Bowie. Ant I don't remember having plugged anyone for a while so please check out Hefner drummer Mr Harding's solo work. (see www.antpop.com) His album "A Long Way To Blow A Kiss" will be out on 04.03.02? and is lovely - 11 songs, some sad & some sweet, all pretty. That'll do for now. Y'all have fun in Camden On Sea at the weekend. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sinister mixtape wonderings.....
by caleb ben moore 07 Feb '02

07 Feb '02

halo all just a quick question: does anyone know ANYTHING about the current state of the Sinister Mixtape Battle? .......or if possibly the whole thing has just fizzled out. any help would be appreciated. ---caleb ben aka RAW ===== "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a harder battle." ~Plato "Love does not consist of gazing at each other, but in looking together in the same direction." -Antoine de Saint-Exupery __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: It wasn't me, it's my first day
by Oliver S. Fox 07 Feb '02

07 Feb '02

Hello Sinister list, I'm new 'round here and having be granted release from the Nursery I thought I raise my head and wish you all and warm hello. (Hopefully a beautuful group hug would follow this bravery) Other than this possible outcome I think the teacher would welcome me to the class, "now everyone this is Ollie and he is new to the school" and then she would appoint some of the friendly kids to show me where the loos and tuck shop are. How I loved that tuck shop! Hoping that someone is interested, I'm Ollie, 21 years young and from central Glasgow. Well London originally, and then Aberdeen and now Glasgow so here I am somewhere between London and Aberdeen. I'm a post-graduate student for my sins and I like to look at life through rose-coloured glasses. I once was a cynical man (well boy) but now reformed I like to go through life seeing the prettiest aspects of everything. I hope it's not just that my cynicism has destroyed any hopeful expectations (argh). Great, well anyway I have only recently discovered Belle and Sebastian having noticed their credit for the soundtrack to Storytelling which I though was pretty ace. Only a couple of months later I have all the B & S recordings I can get my grubby fingers on and my friends are fast becoming fans due being forced to listen to them every time they come round or get in my Mini. I am extremely excited about going to the Edinburgh gig on the 1st of April (It had better not be a joke) and hope to see some of you there. Magnetic fridge letters are fantastic. It is such a great way to pleasantly surprise a flat-mate. Well apart from saying how much I love being on this list and sharing in all your B&S and other experiences I shall end this now because a weedy introductory email has to end some where. Big smiles and nervous laughs, Ollie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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