March 2002 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: List abuse. Sorry.
by Sam Walton 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

Aloha Sinister. Here comes some list abuse. I hope the mums will forgive me for this brief naughtiness. It's a long shot, but does anybody have a spare ticket to see The Strokes at Brixton Academy on the 28th March? You, yes you, could make me a very happy boy. If anyone can help, please email me offlist. See some or fewer of you on Sunday at the picnic, or maybe at Tigermilking... love Asm.x ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy" - Mary Cohen _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: um .ie and stuff
by adevens＠antioch-college.edu 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

hi all, i haven't written in ages but i've meant to, i'm just bad. i'm in ireland for spring break, in dublin, if anyone who is here wants to meet or if anyone knows a good record shop here or neet stuff to do, email me :-) later skater, arik +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Ticketmaster
by The grass is always greener on the other side of the iron curtain 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

Hello! I don't know if anyone else has had problems with ticketmaster, but I phoned up and the lovely mark told me that something "went bananas" about a lot of orders for the gig. Anyhoo, if, like me you still await your precious ticket, apprantely they will be with you by next monday at the latest. Or so they say... Suspiciously, Andy X +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Reporting back from ChupenhaKen
by Ben Apps 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

Hello there! Even though this is Ben's e-mail address, this is Rachel Fruitloop writing presently. Ben and I are at his mum's house in Derbyshire, typing this on brother Willz computer (thanks!) because we couldn't wait to report back on the B&S gig in Copenhagen. Our adventure began on Friday, which was actually barely 24 hours since I had arrived in London. That night we met up with lots of lovely Sinister people at Ye Olde Cheshire Cheese in celebration of Mark Casarotto's birthday. That night it was apparent that Mark truly is the Lord of Smut! He is extremely charming so he can get away with it. We also met up with other Sinister folk like Jeremy, Mariana, Paul Field, Liz Daplyn, Ken Chu and many more. Then, we all made our way over to the Betsey Trotwood for some dancing at Track & Field, where we met up with Cola Cube Cay. It was a super cool time. Liz Daplyn was lovely enough to lend me her trainers on the walk home as I was learning the hard way how very little I walk in Los Angeles and it was quickly taking its toll on my feet! No sleep that night! We arrived back at Ben's just in time to pack our bags and catch our bus to Stansted, where we caught our flight to Copenhagen. In Copenhagen, riding on city buses for a hobby wasn't really an option, as every time we tried to get help finding our way and inadvertantly caught the same bus driver who didn't know what we were talking about at all! Most everyone there spoke english very well, which was impressive. It is a lovely city, very cold, but clean and the people there are friendly and ride bikes everywhere. (A real novelty to me!) The afternoon of the gig, we went to THE Scottish Pub (that's what it's really called!) with Ulla the Ullastrator, Katie Cheeriodle and her boyfriend Jeremy, and Becky Wright. I'll never forget how GRATE it was sitting there in this pub while the sounds of If You're Feeling Sinister played just for us! The entire album, no less! We all ventured out of the pub to catch a bus to the venue, but it was a bit trickier than we liked and at this point what I thought was the answer to my fashion blues (a pair of smart boots that are suitable for driving but NOT walking) had now rendered me crippled and I was barely able to limp let alone walk much at all. We saw some confused looking yet smartly dressed kids and Ben asked them if they were going to see B&S, and they excitedly said yes. The five of them were from Sweden and were having the same trouble finding the appropriate bus. So the whole lot of us cut to the chase and hired 3 taxis to the venue. The venue was fairly small and we positioned ourselves closer than I had dreamed we'd be! Jim Purple Trousers distributed his spunk to all who were willing to receive it (Spunk being a lovely candy he discovered while there in Denmark!) The opening act was Eugene Kelly formerly of Eugenius and the Vaselines, who claimed to know everything. So Jim asked if he knew what the score was of the Scottish League Cup Final, but he didn't know the answer. However, someone shared that the Rangers beat Ayr United 4-0! Sorry Stuart! When B&S took the stage, Stuart claimed to be feeling ill, we wondered if this outcome anything to do with it! The show was brilliant, and throughout the set, Ben wrote down the song names on a slip of paper on my shoulder! But after the show, Jim produced from nowhere, the official setlist and we cheered! the setlist was: Sleep The Clock Around Dirty Dream #2 The Magic Of A Kind Word My Wandering Days Are Over Judy And The Dream of Horses Jonathan David Wandering Alone The Model Don't Leave The Light On Baby Simple Things The Boy With The Arab Strap We Rule The School Family Tree Waking Up To Us There's Too Much Love The Wrong Girl Dog On Wheels Legal Man During The Wrong Girl, Stuart called these two boys onto the stage to dance. These two had been trying to start a "mosh pit" near the front and were visibly pissed out of their minds! These boys were terribly excited and one of them fell off the stage a couple of times and couldn't really stand up. Then he rushed back towards Chris and Isobel and was swiftly escorted off the stage, leaving his buddy to dance solo. This fellow danced his heart out, and at the very end he pulled his t-shirt off to reveal a B&S apersand shirt underneath and it was quite a spectacular finale! I'd have to say that the experience was quite impressive as a whole, and very romantic, too! I am one lucky girl! This is Ben. Hi. Yeah, what she said. Bye then! Love from Ben and Rachel _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Re: Sinister: guilty as a cocoa bean
by Ian Watson 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

Erk..two from me in as many minutes. I saw Sodastream about five weeks ago in Melbourne. They were wonderful. If you're thinking that you might be around and you might want to go, you should go. Really...just fantastic. ---------- >From: "Miss Marianna Longmire" <mary_goodshoes(a)hotmail.com> >To: sinister(a)missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: guilty as a cocoa bean >Date: Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 5:54 pm > >I was a tap-tap-tapping away at work today when I was suddenly struck down >by the urge to post to sinister. Alas, having no net access on my stupid >computer meant I couldn't write nonsense and get paid. Although, frankly, >some could argue that's exactly what I do every day. But I digress. I really >wanted to write to you of the tales of weeks gone by, of strange thoughts in >my head and even stranger encounters with peoples in the street. But now, >now that i'm here in tottenham court road's easyeverything listening to >daniel beddingfield and the smell of rotting armpits is invading my >nostrils, i'm stumped. > >although i will say this. sinister is great. moreover, sinister people are >great. > >there. > >oooh! and i'm very excited about a couple of things. firstly, spearmint are >playing in london. not once, not twice, but three times in april. Y.A.Y! and >then my beloved sweet hometown boys sodastream are gracing this fine city as >well. what a great month. except for the fact my b+s ticket was (long story) >stolen. curses. CURSES! > >thankyou and goodnight. > >marianna x > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: minette
by Ian Watson 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

I used to have a cat called Minette. It is French for kitten. There's logic in there somewhere. ---------- >From: "chippy eileen" <chippyeileen(a)hotmail.com> >To: sinister(a)missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: minette >Date: Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 10:56 pm > > >her name is michelle, but she likes to be called shelley. >her mother picked the name, because she thought it was exotic ('i wanted to >call her MINETTE but bill wouldn't let me') >i am supposed to talk to her while her mother, who is named mary but calls >herself maria, talks to my adopted mother, margaret. > maria roves east langerston and the surrounding area cutting the hair of >various women of leisure. those women that are available between 9 a.m. and >3 p.m. at 3 p.m. maria has to go home and put bill's dinner on. bill likes >his dinner on the table as soon as he returns from the factory. > >this is my first day off from the chippy for a while, but i have little to >do with it. it is taking some courage to face the village again. >so i am spending the day in my bedroom, with shelley, who doesn't like me. > >shelley is wearing a denim jacket and a ck t-shirt. she dropped out of >sixth form last year and now accompanies her mother as her 'mobile hair >service' services the world. or, at least, that part of yorkshire that is >ready for her. > >shelley is looking through my cds > >"what's this shit?" (it is teenage fanclub) > >i think about defending my musical taste, but decide not to waste my time. >i look at shelley, and wonder how minette would have turned out. i imagine >a waif-like french girl, clutching her satchel and running up the steps of >the Sorbonne, beautiful brown hair flowing behind her in the wind. > >minette, in real life, is a little different. she was in the year below me >at school. she tells me she remembers me 'because you do remember all >the.........' >she looks at herself in my mirror, scraping a lock of newly-permed hair to >the back of her head, where it forms a pile and cascades to her shoulders. >she looks at my short red hair with distaste > >"who did that?" > >"my hair?" she puts a stick of gum in her mouth, not offering me one, and >wish i could think of something clever to say to her 'i err.... i...i cut it >myself'. > >the only response is a nod and a barely suppressed smirk. > >i can feel her eyes on me as i pretend to study my duvet. i think minette >wants to tell me something, and i try not to be interested in what it might >be. eventually, there is a sharp intake of breath and i decide to get in >before she does - > >"shelley.... do you listen to music much?". she seems taken aback. "have >you ever sat in the dark, and just played and played and played a record >until you can feel it seeping in through your pores, and mingling with your >thoughts and feelings, and becoming part of them" > >minette looks at me as if i had just asked to have sex with her mother. > >"no". she shuffles, and turns away. > >"have you ever shut off your mind completely, and only let the music in? >has a record ever become such an important part of you that you change >forever?" > >"are you on drugs? mandy althorpe said you were. she said she saw you in >leeds one night and you were on drugs" > >"shelley... just try something." > >i don't know why i did it. i wanted her to shut up. i wanted her to >understand me. i think i wanted her to like me. i looked through my >records, and tried to find something that shelley macdonald wouldn't think >was "shit". in the end, i decide to put on something i like instead. i put >on "geometrid", because i have been listening to it a lot in recent days. i >draw the curtains and turn the speakers toward her. > >"now sit very still, close your eyes, and empty your mind. think of >nothing, and try and imagine the music. try and feel it, as it enters your >ear, and follow it through your body, and see where it stops, and tell me >how it feels." > >at this point, i expect her to leave. but she suprises me. perhaps it is >because she is interested. she would never do this sort of thing with her >real friends. she would never do this in front of anyone whose opinion >interested her. she would only do it with someone who she regards as an >outsider. and, in this small village, there aren't many of those. i think >she wants something exciting to happen, although she may not know it. > >i switch on the album, setting it to skip certain songs (i don't want her >telling people i listen to songs about drinking piss. i have to face them >again at some point) and i sit back, with my eyes half shut. > >i can see minette is concentrating. she is holding her breath, and biting >her lower lip. she never smiles, but looks as serious as i have ever seen >her. and she is mercifully silent. i am regretting my musical choice. i >wish i had picked something less fey. i can't imagine a situation where >minette would choose to listen to 'these things'. but i'm amazed to see her >fingers starting to twitch, her head to wobble a little, and a smile come to >those permapursed lips. her fingers twitch again. she's feeling something. > >maria's voice floats up the stairs "shelley, time to go" > >shelley snaps out of her reverie. she doesn't look at me. she picks up her >coat, and heads for the door. but then she realises she's forgotten the >bombshell > >"i saw andy the other day down the bull.............. he's gay now" > > >as i write this mail, minette - or shelley as i will try and call her - has >just left the house. she came back at half-past seven and sat, watching >eastenders with margaret whilst i taped the copy of "geometrid" that she had >requested. i asked her to say hello to andy from me, and watched her smile >to herself, nurturing her new-found knowledge. > >i wish i could see her face when she realises stuart david is singing >"drink piss to cool down your brain". > >i wish i knew what she was going to do with that tape > >eileen > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Picnics and Birthdays (London), Picnics and Gigs (Edinburgh)
by Dimitra Daisy 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

Yes, I know. I got Sweetie's adress wrong. I was bound to get something wrong with the computer crashing 4 times. I'm sorry. Anyway it is something_sinister(a)hotmail.com and I'm sure about it this time. Apologies to everyone and a thank you to Andy for spotting it, Dimitra xx _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Yelling at Stuart when the Asian Girl passed out
by Dennis Trading 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

Newbie here finally finishing up my probationary period... Oscar just wanted to say that i am or was or oscillating Morrissey fanatic as well...but it has waned a great deal. I did see B&S at the Wilshire back in September and thought my GOD this has got to be one of the greatest bands around and one of the best all time shows i've ever seen...eventho they didn't cover a Smiths song or do an encore..nevertheless they rank right up there with any Morrissey, Suede or Radiohead concert I've ever been too. As for the Coachella bit you are going to...I was tempted but I highly advise you to just save your money...but then again...Oasis and the Strokes are playing the same day B&S are so it maybe worth it but I still think those KROQ dweebs are the scum of the earth >From: Oscar Vivanco <cinemaone(a)earthlink.net> >Reply-To: Oscar Vivanco <cinemaone(a)earthlink.net> >To: sinister <sinister(a)missprint.org> >Subject: Sinister: Yelling at Stuart when the Asian Girl passed out >Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 07:28:54 -0800 > >So there I am. At my second B&S show in a row at the Warfield in San >Francisco, when this tiny Asian girl just ups and passes out. People >scatter and the band stops playing. Stuart edges up the crowd. "What's >happened to her?" The band is at attention. She's passed out is the >general consensus. Security carries her off and I yell out, "You made her >pass out with that purty voice of yours." He looks at me and nods his >head. >Silly Americans he must have been thinking. >Those two nights they did a Smiths cover, the leader of the pack song, Sly >and the Family Stone. >At that point there I decided on my new favorite band. It had been >Morrissey. Forever it was Morrissey, no question. But B&S did it for me >that night. And now I contemplate lyrics being tattooed on me. >"We know you are soft cause we've all seen you dancing >We know you are hard cause we all saw you drinking from noon >Until noon again" >Not really, but its obsession. I even sent away for a tea towel. I live >in >America, where I've never even heard of a tea towel, but I have a B@S tea >towel, and a mug and a mousepad and three shirts and all the posters and >the >postcards and everything on vinyl and everything on CD. >And I'm the boy with the filthy laugh who's flying to Los Angeles and paid >$143 for a two day festival to see B&S play for an hour or two. $100 for >the plane, $75 for a rental, $100 for a hotel, $8 a bottle for water and >you >have the happiest boy for just under $500 for a two day weekend, not to >mention that I only work on the weekends so blaggh. >So I will confess to you >this is my first post ever and I don't know how much longer I can hold no >one's attention. >Oscar Love > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: minette
by chippy eileen 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

her name is michelle, but she likes to be called shelley. her mother picked the name, because she thought it was exotic ('i wanted to call her MINETTE but bill wouldn't let me') i am supposed to talk to her while her mother, who is named mary but calls herself maria, talks to my adopted mother, margaret. maria roves east langerston and the surrounding area cutting the hair of various women of leisure. those women that are available between 9 a.m. and 3 p.m. at 3 p.m. maria has to go home and put bill's dinner on. bill likes his dinner on the table as soon as he returns from the factory. this is my first day off from the chippy for a while, but i have little to do with it. it is taking some courage to face the village again. so i am spending the day in my bedroom, with shelley, who doesn't like me. shelley is wearing a denim jacket and a ck t-shirt. she dropped out of sixth form last year and now accompanies her mother as her 'mobile hair service' services the world. or, at least, that part of yorkshire that is ready for her. shelley is looking through my cds "what's this shit?" (it is teenage fanclub) i think about defending my musical taste, but decide not to waste my time. i look at shelley, and wonder how minette would have turned out. i imagine a waif-like french girl, clutching her satchel and running up the steps of the Sorbonne, beautiful brown hair flowing behind her in the wind. minette, in real life, is a little different. she was in the year below me at school. she tells me she remembers me 'because you do remember all the.........' she looks at herself in my mirror, scraping a lock of newly-permed hair to the back of her head, where it forms a pile and cascades to her shoulders. she looks at my short red hair with distaste "who did that?" "my hair?" she puts a stick of gum in her mouth, not offering me one, and wish i could think of something clever to say to her 'i err.... i...i cut it myself'. the only response is a nod and a barely suppressed smirk. i can feel her eyes on me as i pretend to study my duvet. i think minette wants to tell me something, and i try not to be interested in what it might be. eventually, there is a sharp intake of breath and i decide to get in before she does - "shelley.... do you listen to music much?". she seems taken aback. "have you ever sat in the dark, and just played and played and played a record until you can feel it seeping in through your pores, and mingling with your thoughts and feelings, and becoming part of them" minette looks at me as if i had just asked to have sex with her mother. "no". she shuffles, and turns away. "have you ever shut off your mind completely, and only let the music in? has a record ever become such an important part of you that you change forever?" "are you on drugs? mandy althorpe said you were. she said she saw you in leeds one night and you were on drugs" "shelley... just try something." i don't know why i did it. i wanted her to shut up. i wanted her to understand me. i think i wanted her to like me. i looked through my records, and tried to find something that shelley macdonald wouldn't think was "shit". in the end, i decide to put on something i like instead. i put on "geometrid", because i have been listening to it a lot in recent days. i draw the curtains and turn the speakers toward her. "now sit very still, close your eyes, and empty your mind. think of nothing, and try and imagine the music. try and feel it, as it enters your ear, and follow it through your body, and see where it stops, and tell me how it feels." at this point, i expect her to leave. but she suprises me. perhaps it is because she is interested. she would never do this sort of thing with her real friends. she would never do this in front of anyone whose opinion interested her. she would only do it with someone who she regards as an outsider. and, in this small village, there aren't many of those. i think she wants something exciting to happen, although she may not know it. i switch on the album, setting it to skip certain songs (i don't want her telling people i listen to songs about drinking piss. i have to face them again at some point) and i sit back, with my eyes half shut. i can see minette is concentrating. she is holding her breath, and biting her lower lip. she never smiles, but looks as serious as i have ever seen her. and she is mercifully silent. i am regretting my musical choice. i wish i had picked something less fey. i can't imagine a situation where minette would choose to listen to 'these things'. but i'm amazed to see her fingers starting to twitch, her head to wobble a little, and a smile come to those permapursed lips. her fingers twitch again. she's feeling something. maria's voice floats up the stairs "shelley, time to go" shelley snaps out of her reverie. she doesn't look at me. she picks up her coat, and heads for the door. but then she realises she's forgotten the bombshell "i saw andy the other day down the bull.............. he's gay now" as i write this mail, minette - or shelley as i will try and call her - has just left the house. she came back at half-past seven and sat, watching eastenders with margaret whilst i taped the copy of "geometrid" that she had requested. i asked her to say hello to andy from me, and watched her smile to herself, nurturing her new-found knowledge. i wish i could see her face when she realises stuart david is singing "drink piss to cool down your brain". i wish i knew what she was going to do with that tape eileen _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: I know you will forgive me for my honesty
by sgazzetti 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

If only because thats playing just now, rather than it's being apt, or not, for what follows. Hello all (or maybe only some) To borrow a term from Renaissance bronze sculptors, this is what we might call the Lost Wax approach to to writing a content-based post; that is, there is no content, but I *am* going to actually mention the band, since I am beginning this post about mid-way through a chronologicathon with all their discs, including The Black Sessions and Bowlie Weekender tapes and everything Ive got. Apart, sadly, from the latest, since I cant locate Im Waking Up To Us in the former Yugoslavia nor convince any reputable concern (other than a friend, made through this list, who knows who she is, and that I love her) to ship it to me here. *Sigh*. I will just have to wait two weeks to buy it in Edinburgh, and see for myself. Thats it for the content, folks. Delete now, if you dont want to read more support for the (apparently) ad nauseum-type diary entry-type posts, so vociferously under attack in recent weeks. On that by-now overtired thread, David Hewitt recently wrote, >>>I've >>>probably got more to apologise for than most, so I'll do so now. Sorry.>>> Shame on you, Mr. Hewitt! Youve always written from the heart, and thats what I come here for. Remember: Sinister Means Never Having to Say Im Sorry! Much more to my liking was this offering from Lindsey Baker: >>>***i am not, nor will i ever, apologize for the post that is to follow. and on that same note, i heretofore take back any apologies i may have made for any posts i have written, am writing, or will write. i love each and every one of my posts, even if you lot don't. so deal with it. thank you.***>>> (asterisks hers, little wedgie-thingies mine) Thats it! The gauntlet has been THROWN DOWN or something. I know, as do so many better posters before me, that we dont talk about The List on The List. But I want to go on record as stating that the reason I come here is to learn about other people like me; because even if other B&S fans are not like me in terms of sex, race, nationality, job, haircut, shoe-size, savior-faire, I know that they ARE enough like me that I will want to read about details of their day. Because people who love B&S also love words, and they value the power and beauty that words can carry when wielded properly, as we all see every day (I hope) in the music that unites us, that brought us here in the first place. So, while I understand that some might find the diary entry sort of post boring, I and obviously many others feel its anything but. I come here to feel the *amae*, to see that other like-minded people have similar trivial concerns, fixations, maunderings, worries, and can write about them with passion and feeling and humor and joy (and sometimes despair--as Billy Bragg said, youve got to take the crunchy with the smooth) and artfulness. To those who dont value this, I say, delete me, delete all of us. They just did. I feel better. I love that I can peer in all of your windows, invited, even, and see what youre studying (Greek? Really? Why?) and eating (toast? Again? But youre a stick!) and listening to (Low? Sign me up!) and reading (The Great Big Book Of Women Who Were Great--is that a *real* book...?). Checking my Sini-Digest is so much more rewarding than spending equal time staring out my rear window hoping to see if theres anyone interesting in the opposite flats (although when I do see someone like that, guess who wins? Sorry). But the odds are a lot longer out there than in here, and I value the intimacy that only personal, so-called boring posts can muster IN HERE. Thanks to everyone whos ever posted for sharing your lives, interesting all, with me. Can we please call this thread dead and get back to business? I hope we can. sgazzetti Conectate a Internet GRATIS con Yahoo! Conexión: http://conexion.yahoo.com.ar +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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