August 2003 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Andy James drives a bus for the lonely
by Mark Hester 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

Hi everyone, At my work we have a Java tool for putting content on our website. As the web host is in America and we're in England, it's called Content Across the Sea, or CATS for short, which has to be the twee-est* name for a piece of software ever. And the message that comes up while we're waiting for things to work is "Loading The Tree of Content", which sounds like a Felt album title. Talking of album titles..... Dear Catastrophe Waitress. DICKSWAY, perhaps? I actually shared a house with a girl who was a Catastrophe Waitress. Well, she had waited at tables in restaurants on both sides of the Atlantic, and had her fair share of mishaps. In fact, when we were driving along Interstate whatever-it-was between Houston and Austin, TX she pointed out the restaurant where she had tripped and sent a huge tray of food catapulting against the wall. There was still a big stain on the wall to commemorate the event. I'm not quite sure what element of Tex Mex cuisine has this staining power - the refried beans, maybe. How Does It Feel on Friday was excellent as ever, Shirley and Samanthi from Spearmint DJd (I've obviously missed something here, Spearmint were an all male ensemble when I saw them play in Oxford), Ian W was busy with his camera and I got captured on film yet again, other sinisterines present included Stefano and Feather Boa and her friend Stuart (no, not *that* Stuart) from the ysm - apparently Sam Walton (yeah) was unable to make it as he was "too p**sed". Stefano was able to give me some more details about his gig at the end of the month, including where it was...the Arts Café is quite close to the Spitz, apparently. On the way home we had to cope with the de rigeur approaches from taxi drivers with their vastly inflated fares. £30 to travel five miles, I ask you? Then on Saturday I went to Bela London's 21st birthday do...she was on sinister a long time ago and posted exactly twice. Looky here, there's proof: http://www.mail-archive.com/sinister@majordomo.net/2000-month-08/msg00258.h… http://www.mail-archive.com/sinister@majordomo.net/2000-month-08/msg00328.h… ....though she never did make it to that Oxford picnic, so forewent the opportunity to feed Build-a-burger to the ducks. Bela is one half of another b&s related transatlantic married couple...see it's not just the Appses, although this match came courtesy of - whisper it...the *other* chatroom. The evening was notable for us being moved from our table "to make room for the band", which was a jazz band and we were sufficiently huffy about it to move to a different bar completely and en route I had the misfortune (or fortune, depending on which way you look at it) to be groped by an "old" woman whom I think was part of a hen party who were walking in the opposite direction. Not sure about the necessity of my quotes, but she did have white hair..... GRATE** news about there being another Tigermilking. Not to be outdone, Oxford now has its own b&s-related club nite, called ROLLERCOASTER. I missed the first one but the second one is this Friday, the 22nd (yay!). It's at the legendary Jericho (formerly Jericho Tavern), and someone from my work is helping to run it. The only mention of it online I can find is here: http://www.dailyinformation.co.uk ....and with all these night-time bus trips to London I make these days, it'd be nice to see some people coming in the *other* direction (hint!). Look, it only costs a quid these days (well, sort of): http://www.megabus.com ...complete with cheery, chubby driver - although I have yet to find out if he has pink carpet on the sliding door. Bye for now, Mark. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname(a)nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: NME
by Richard Lander 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

So here is the info... http://www.nme.com/news/105909.htm +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: a chara - FAP?
by Dirty Vicar 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

hello Sinister, blah blah I've been neglecting you lately etc. And now, after a sordid weekend in Amsterdam with the *other* B&S fans, I'm crawling back to your hopefully forgiving embrace. sadly I don't really have to much to report, apart from the usual things people say about being too busy to post much etc. However, I do have one piece of actual NEWS, viz that Sinister's very own The Pinefox is paying a visit to Dublin, and if you fancy meeting him you should make your way to the upstairs lounge of the Lord Edward across the road from Christchurch at 8.00pm on thursday evening, where he, some people from the Dublin chapter of I-Love-Everything, and I will be drinking beers and stuff and discussing whether James Joyce would be able to take on Flann O'Brien in a FITE. Other than that, nothing really. I agree with Mark C that tweeness is not a state to which people should aspire. To all the other people to whom I owe mails - you will have to wait just a little bit longer. bless you all, DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Tony at the back of the gym
by robin stout 18 Aug '03

18 Aug '03

Tamra told us about Tony: <<i made a very very poor argument that belle and sebastian are a "emo-isk" band, and therefore liking them, he had emo in his blood, and was just in denial about it. so, i started a war.>> I think you should tell Tony that Belle and Sebastian are an "esk-imo" band. That'll confuse him. <<question one. what french movie that came out in 1975 did some of the lyrics from "the state i am in" come from. if i am dumb because i do not know this, so be it. i am dumb. i jokingly used the line "i was happy for a day in 1975" to prove that b&s was "emo." emphasis on jokingly. oh dear. he quickly trashed my status as a fan of b&s because i did not know this fact.>> I don't know the answer to this question. I reckon Tony's having you on. I asked our friend the reference fox (http://www.fineran.demon.co.uk/basrefs/) because i figured that if anyone would know then he would, but he didn't. He has plenty of stuff to baffle this Tony with, though, if you have a look. Did you know that Sleep the Clock Around is mentioned in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader by CS Lewis? Or that the crippled friend in The State I Am In is actually Stanley, the third brother of The Proclaimers, who was beaten up by the other two when he was caught wearing contact lenses? Or that Elvis in A Century of Elvis is actually a stick of broccoli? It's all true!* <<question two. what is your definition of emo, twee, and or any other hip music category that you might be able to help me define. all i know is weezer is emo, b&s is twee, and modest mouse is indie. what is used to define these placements, and is there a hierarchy? >> Belle and Sebastian are not twee, they R!O!C!K! If you need any proof of this just ask Mr Mark Casarotto if they are twee and he will show you how much they rock with a bunch of fives. The other day I went to the Civil Service Sports Day to represent my office in the three-legged race. It was a hot day and on the way back the car that I was in began to overheat, so our driver, Pete, decided to call the RAC. By the time the car had been mended it was getting late and I was worried that Pete was going to fall asleep at the wheel, so I suggested a singalong. After singing Downtown, Bohemian Rhapsody, The Bare Necessities and the complete works of Bonnie Tyler, we began doing a few solos and, naturally, I got around to Belle and Sebastian. The thing is, after I'd sung a couple it occurred to me that most belle and sebastian songs are pretty serious stuff, and not the type of happy fare to cheer up a car of tired sweaty men in shorts on the lumpy back seat of a ford escort. I thought of all the B+S songs I know, and what they're about - loneliness, murder, suicide, rape, bullying, mental illness, war, broken relationships - and decided they weren't appropriate at all. So we sang The Bare Necessities again. # You eat ants!? You better believe it, and you're gonna love the way they tickle! The bare necessities of life will come to you.. They'll come to you.. # My dictionary defines "twee" as a derogatory term: "excessively sentimental, sweet or pretty". I wouldn't call Belle and Sebastian twee. Forcing bands into music types is always a bit of a dud. I think that B+S would call themselves "indie", but everyone has a different idea of what indie actually means. When I think of emo-hop I think of Archel, and rifling through my filing cabinet marked The Truth the World Cannot Handle I found these wise words of hers: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200204/msg00154.html If Tony keeps arguing with you we'll come over and beat him up. Bang on the teeth, he'll be out for a week. +++ The latest news on the album comes courtesy of a practically illiterate article from Pitchfork (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/) It sounds like Dear Catastrophe Waitress will be released on October 7th. More interesting is the accompanying photograph (ooh!!) of three smiling (catastrophe) waitresses... Bye folks, and don't forget to keep your fireworks in a biscuit tin. R x *This is a lie. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Content and questions up the wazoo
by colleen sieber 17 Aug '03

17 Aug '03

Dear Sinister-ians, Howdy.I'm a long time lurker but now I need the benefit of your knowledge. I'm quaking with excitement for the NYC concert on Tuesday. I'm planning to head up with some friends on Tuesday from Philly but I'm not sure how early we should get there . Is 10 am too early or do you think the park will already be crawling with B&S fans? Also, does anyone know if they'll have seats set up in front of the bandshell or if it's all standing room ? I've checked the Celebrate Brooklyn website but it didn't say what the set-up was for benefit concerts. And finally any advice on where to park would be appreciated. This will be my second B&S concert (the first was last year in Philly).My song wish list : Dog on Wheels Century of Fakers There's Too Much Love The Loneliness of a Middle-Distance Runner I Know Where the Summer Goes Any of those would make me weep with happiness.The Philly show last year rocked my ass off, so I have high expectations for the NYC show.See you there and thanks in advance for any information about the venue. Colleen ===== i know it's a warning but all i can think of is coffee in the morning,wine in the evening and everything else is a black and boring bruise... --lisa germano __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: War!
by Jay Eckard 16 Aug '03

16 Aug '03

Friends, Sinisters, Countrymen, Lend me your Ears: Miss Laura Llew pondered: " Will the two proposed picnics merge into one HUGE prospectful picniciking force or will there be a battle of the picnics - complete with food flinging and ant cheerleaders? If there's a fight, then I'm siding with Eric and Jay's picnic. They might be gay and might not know how to fight but at least all battle plans will be executed with style. Actually, I take that back. I hear GayJay wields a pretty mean foil. Personally, I just want an opportunity to yell, "Parry his flank!" in public. Heaven knows that my life already suffers seriously from absence of blade as it is." I think we all know the answer to this. OF COURSE there will be a huge fight. More-vicious-than-two-girls-with-chips-on-their-shoulders-and-long-fingernails-to-boot-type Big. And as no one else is signing up to do it, I nominate myself El Supremo Generalissimo of the Sinister forces. As I see it, we will muster at dawn. We will arrange are forces thusly *marks in the ground with his patented pointing stick* Our pikemen here in four rows at the front, and flanking them behind on each side, the shot. I recommend matchlock harqebuses, as they are dependable in battle, unlike these new-fangled muskets and flint lock rifle. Behind the pikes, arranged in several rows, the Infantrymen, and behind these our mounted men. We strike at dawn, moving to take over their Picnique encampment. I'll have some rousing speech ready. Something noble, "... that on this day of St Picnic Piciannic, we shall all stand a tip-toe and rouse ourselves at the name of Sinister!" And then we will all charge into battle under the cry "Cry God for Honey, England and St Geroge!" Of course, there will be some resistance. When a few men fall back, I'll have another speech all ready to go: "Once more into the Breech dear friends, once more into the Breech or fill up all the walls with Our Sinister dead!" Since god is obviously on our side, we shall win. I will be humble, allowing hymns like the Te Deum and Laudamus be sung, but will gentle remind you that France is now ours. We will split all the booty, Tuna Sandwiches and such and drink Diet Coke well spik'd with Rum. We shall have mirthsomeful tidings of dancing and music. We may even let theh Bowlie join in. Oh yes, it shall be swell. And I will marry me the Bowlie princess and everything will be swell till that French bitch Joan of Arc fights back and my kid gets killed. Oh. Wait. I'm confusing myself with Henry V again. Dammit. Man. Well anyway, I recommend beatin' some Bowlie. GayJay -- "The Posby falls into a Trance In which it does a little Dance." Edward Gorey _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: San Francisco Happenings
by Ian Rivamonte 15 Aug '03

15 Aug '03

I would be more than happy to lead the crew and set up a place to meet up. However, we need more of a response from this List. Such as, is there anyone actually attending the picnic if we do hold one? Location will probably be at Berkeley somewhere. Maybe the Marina over there? I have no clue. So, if there is anyone interested in a sinister picnic, please post. We need to match (or even outdo) the Brooklyn sinister kids! Come on! Cheers, Ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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RE: Sinister: San Francisco Happenings?
by Ben Apps 15 Aug '03

15 Aug '03

Ben Lee said: >A meet-up before next Friday's Berkeley show, perhaps? That would be ideal. Come on reluctant picnic mummies and daddies let's get it ohwn! Something else just occured to me. Do you think it would be insensitive to play "Don't leave the light on, baby" in Brooklyn? tsk tsk, 5 line posts. What would the purists say? Bapps _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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RE: Sinister: San Francisco Happenings?
by Ben Lee 15 Aug '03

15 Aug '03

A meet-up before next Friday's Berkeley show, perhaps? -----Original Message----- From: Ian Rivamonte [mailto:irivamon@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:06 AM To: Subject: Sinister: San Francisco Happenings? Hello Sinister. Long time subscriber and lurker just came back from the dead (literally). Anyways, reading the archives the last week or so and there seems to be nothing going on for the San Francisco / Bay Area Sinister members other than Ben Apps' attempt to have a gathering set up. I apologize if this is repetitive, but has there been any resolution to that? Picnic? Meet-up? Football wth B&S at Golden Gate Park (oh please invite me!)? Any info would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Cheers, Ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: San Francisco Happenings?
by Ian Rivamonte 15 Aug '03

15 Aug '03

Hello Sinister. Long time subscriber and lurker just came back from the dead (literally). Anyways, reading the archives the last week or so and there seems to be nothing going on for the San Francisco / Bay Area Sinister members other than Ben Apps' attempt to have a gathering set up. I apologize if this is repetitive, but has there been any resolution to that? Picnic? Meet-up? Football wth B&S at Golden Gate Park (oh please invite me!)? Any info would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Cheers, Ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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