July 2005 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Dappers
by David Moore 24 Jul '05

24 Jul '05

Hi All, Not the kind of event that I thought (hoped) I would ever Report Back on, but I thought that something should be said about Liz's funeral, which was held on Friday afternoon outside in the Essex countryside. A very large number of people attended, comprised of Liz's family & friends, Rob's family & friends, Liz's friends from Oxford, people from this list* & from the ILE community. The proceedings were lead by Liz's uncle, and a lot of sad & wonderful things were said about Liz or read by her Mum, her Dad, her sister, her cousin, Rob, Rob's Mum and a couple of Liz's fellow students from St Hilda's. Jim read a message that Honey had sent. Several pieces of music were played, reflecting the wide range of Liz's musical talents & interests. I learned a lot from what was said, how much more talented & special a person Liz was than I was ever aware of (including oarswoman & rifle shot amongst her accomplishments!). The occasion was heartbreaking, to think of Liz being taken from her family and friends at such an early age, that Rob and her should have spent so few years together. However, there was also an enormous feeling of love for Liz, joy at celebrating her life and its achievements and even some humour. The ceremony was not at all rushed as some such occasions can be, people had sufficient time for reflection and to express their feelings. The spot itself is very peaceful, as can be seen from some pictures here http://www.green-burial.co.uk . Liz is laid to rest in a meadow, under the eves of a wood which with new planting will eventually extend over the grave. The wood becomes carpeted with bluebells in the spring and the site is very tranquil, with no traffic noise and on a rise so that there is a great view over the green countryside. Although the occasion was informal I thought it was a great sign of respect for Liz that not only did so many people attend but also that they had gone to the trouble of wearing (in some cases acquiring, I think!) dark suits & ties. Its a long time since I have seen so many Sinisterines in one place at the same time and its so sad that they should have been brought together for this reason - I recall seeing Rob, Marianna, Ken, Ben & Rachel Apps, Archel & Mr Archel, Ian, Stefano, Robin Stout, Lucy, Ailsa, Cabbage & Miss Vicky, Mark C & Sarah, Tim, Ally C, Stacey Dahling, Pam, Jim, Lixi & Steve, Carsmile Steve & Meg, Andy Dean, Starry, Nick. Apologies for my writing, which is not up to capturing the emotion of the occasion, and if I have left anyone or anything out that I should have included. A lot of tributes have been written to Liz in various places recently - I hope that the love that Liz inspired in others is some comfort to those close to her. Here are a few more things that have come to my mind in the last few days. She was such a very talented person, musically as an instrumentalist & singer, whether as part of or directing a choir or covering Blondie's 'Heart Of Glass' backed by The Johnny 7 before one of B&S's Astoria gigs a couple of years ago. I also recall her installation which formed part of an exhibition at The Roundhouse in 2001 which she described as "a big wibbly projection type thing" or an "abstract slide thing projected onto a big piece of perspex" - whatever, even if I wasn't clever enough to understand its meaning the intellect and ingenuity that had gone into its production was manifest. Her kindness, always thinking of others & finding ways to include them, at picnics bringing loads of food to share, her delicious home baking. She once wrote It's our glorious idiosyncracies that mark us as such wonderful people and certainly lived up to that herself, signing off e-mails to me with Must go make etchings or talking of going off to decorate a cake for a friend or to go for a snowball fight. I will treasure our common enthusiasms, especially for certain artists. We both love Sodastream and she once spoke of kidnapping Pete & Karl & keeping them in her cellar to write songs to play for her & her mum - then her strong practical sense realised that the damp would play havoc with the tuning of the double bass & her kindness started thinking of providing them with a little heater. Her talents ranged even to her very expressive facial, er, expressions, ranging from the mere arching, asking eyebrow to ones that spoke volumes. I think that had she been born a few decades earlier she would made a fantastic actress of the silent era, even giving Lillian Gish a run for her money. The one that is etched in my mind is the one she greeted Lixi with at ATP once when Lixi eventually returned from the beach in the early hours with the chalet key - absolutely terrifying & I am glad it wasn't directed at me! I miss her a lot, & I wasn't anywhere near as close to her as others. I wish her family, Rob and her friends strength to deal with their grief and that a day will come when the pain of loss is less for them. I understand that Ken, Marianna & Pam have been in the front line of supporting Rob over recent days & I wish to thank them for the strength of their friendship & what they have also had to say & do on behalf of others. If I have another wish, it is that the tragic circumstances in which Liz met her end don't result in a permanent increase in fear & prejudice in the country - for a long period Liz's e-mail signature included the line "Regard the moon, La lune ne garde aucune rancune". Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Liz
by nalA Rollo 23 Jul '05

23 Jul '05

Hey people, my name's nalA and i'm a newbie to the list. Ideally this wouldn't be the first email i sent to the list but at the moment times are far from ideal, so i guess it stands to reason that my first post would be far from the ideal introduction. Shortly after the events two weeks ago in London i emailed Honey with a slightly strange email. After a little bit of very gentle nudging Honey has persuaded me to mail you guys what i sent her. It went a bit like this: "Hi there, i'm really sorry to bother you as i am in essence a complete stranger to you. A month or so ago i joined the sinister list but have not yet had the confidence to post. As a silly teenager i was on the list years ago but rarely posted then due to the fact that i would get worried that i would come across as stupid and that i would make a fool of myself. Since then i have grown slighly in confidence and don't care so much as to if i make of myself as i have become rather secure in my stupiidity. Anyhow, at this point you're probaly thinking "Enough already! Cut to the chase and tell me where you are heading with your ramblings!". Where i am heading is this... A good few years ago now i went to one of my first music festivals. As you may of guessed this festival was Bowlie. I went with three other people that i vaguely knew from My Life Story gigs and messageboards/lists. For various reasons i now forget, there seemed to a certain ammount of tension ion my chalet and amongst it's inhibitants. Consequently i spent most the festival wandering alone. A lonely 17yr old boy with too much time on his hands combatting severe depression. One evening i was sat by myself outside on a picnic bench reading a book, i think it was Bukowski's women but it could of been The Dice Man, i can't really remember now. On the picnic table opposite me were a group of five or six people. I put down my book and quietly drink my lemonade as i try and write bad poetry/lyrics of the kind that only a young male with issues can. As i do so a girl/young woman from the group says hi to me and asks me if i'm alright as i looked rather sad. We begin to talk and she invites to join the group at their table. I join them but being rather socially awkward and not very "with it" i find it hard to keep up with the conversation. Despite this the group were kind. They allowed me to hang around at the gigs with them, to dance in the "disco" with them, to play frisbee with them and seemed to warm to me a little. However, only the girlie who had first spoken to me really seemed to speak to me rather than wait for me to join in with their conversations. This same girlie was the one who would tell me when and where to be to meet the group. On the final day (when everybody was leaving) my chalet mates had seemed to sort things between themselves and were now once again the best of friends (i think). Feeling rather guilty at having left me alone for most of the festival they insisted on keeping me close to them. I never saw my new group of friends again as when i went to their chalet i had already missed them. That girl that invited me to join that group made sure i had a good time at Bowlie. That girl was called Liz. The Liz i talk of was from North London and would now be aged 29 or 30 as at Bowlie she was 23, my age now (if my memory serves correct). Back then she had long light brown hair and a little fringe. I think she had eyes that were a bluey/green colour but i'm not sure. Does this sound like it could possibly of been Liz Daplyn to you? It's been on my mind for the last few days now... I don't know what else to say... Even if it is not the same Liz what has happened is, obviously, deeply tragic and i send my thoughts and condolences. If this sounds like another Liz please may i sincerley apologise for having bothered you with this." Since writing this email i have seen pictures and read some of Liz's posts in the archives and have concluded that i am 99.99999% certain that this is the same Liz. i got a few details wrong about her age and stuff but from what i can gather we are talking the same Lliz here. It's not often that you have a random stranger be so kind and caring towards you. It takes an amazing person to lift the spirits of a "problem" teenager but Liz managed it. I can not even comprehend how others on this list must be feeling right now as i barely knew Liz and yet feel terrible for her loss. i send my condolences and love to all of those that knew Liz. i'm sure i can not be the only person that Liz has touched through her actions and that she will forever live on in our memories. Stay safe people. lots of love and hugs nalA xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: Liz
by aadam jacobs 21 Jul '05

21 Jul '05

It was back in '97 or so, right around the time that _...Sinister_ came out, that I first heard B&S. Shortly after that the list was born that this list is a child of. In January of '98 I met Elizabeth Daplyn on that list. We flirted through emails and then the telephone until I flew from Chicago (where I continue to reside) to England to meet her. Our relationship lasted one year, and during that time I went to England four times, and she came to America twice. We went to one B&S picnic together in NYC, but I never had the opportunity to have the delicious cakes. She and I were far too busy to bake ;-) Two weeks before the bombings on July 7, Yahoo lost my entire address book. I couldn't otherwise find Liz's address, so I couldn't contact her. I joined this list again (having dropped my subscription several years ago due to time restrictions) to try to contact her. My emails bounced because, until yesterday, I was in the nursery. Thankfully Amanda, an old friend from the list now living in England, emailed me to tell me that Liz was on the list of missing. That was July 11th. Through diligent detective work I was able to get a hold of Liz's sister, Eleanor, and her Mom, Pam. I've been in touch with them since the 12th. Needless to say her tragic death has hurt me deeply. Liz and I loved each other very much, and there was no hurt between us due to the break up. Neither of us were going to move across the Atlantic, so it was a mutual agreement. Communication waned over the years, and the last time I spoke to her on the phone was September 11, '01. She called to make sure I was OK. It tears me up that I couldn't do the same for her. When the B&S DVD came out I consumed it. I spent many hours going through every nook and cranny it had to offer. By the end it made me cry. I guess I was sad it was over. I emailed Liz to ask her what her thoughts were on the DVD. She was dissapointed that it wasn't more complete. That was the last communication we had. It will be impossible for me to attend the funeral tomorrow, but as it's been everyday since July 11th, my heart will be with Eleanor and Pam and the family I never met and Rob, whom I should like to meet someday as we share such a special commonality. I don't know that I'll ever be able to listen to B&S again without crying. Love to you all, and thank you again Amanda. Aadam +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: you alright?
by Stefano 21 Jul '05

21 Jul '05

Dear All, apparently we are facing a second day of havoc in London, although the extent of the fact is nothing near what happened only a couple of week ago, I just work down the road from Warren street, one of the "isolated" tube stations. get in toch if you been involved and need any help. hope you are all well and safe. love stefano -- Stefano School of Biological Science Queen Mary, University of London Mile End Road E1 4NS London United Kingdom +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: thoughts and feelings
by Lorraine Hosie 19 Jul '05

19 Jul '05

Hello Sinister I was going to write the Saturday before last, when I first saw Liz's picture on News 24. I picked up my mobile and three times recomposed a text to the one person I know [personally] who I thought had also met Liz. But I couldn't get the words right. I wasn't grieving: whichever way I looked at it, and I always try to avoid bandwagonning other people's grief. But, as ever, it's the kindness and sensitivity of others in the aftermath that touches me - the generosity of strangers, the bravery of the survivors. It's the sign outside The Castle pub in Islington that says 'We are not afraid!', even though some of us are. I met Liz twice I think - once at the Astoria Karaoke (she made light work of 'Heart of Glass', and I *think* at one of the London picnics. She was a genuinely lovely person, it seemed to me, and I feel for those who're missing her At the same time, I feel for the families of the bombers - those of them who were completely in the dark about their brother's, son's, cousin's intentions. Surely their grief is twofold. And I feel for the innocent people who live in those communities, and the police and community leaders who are now faced with the possibility of a backlash. I feel for my Goddaughter: the youngest Sinisterine; whose first birthday is tomorrow. I worry what sort of place the world will be when she starts to become aware of it.  I wonder if she'll lose a friend some day, and I wonder what I could possibly say to help ease her pain Last week I listened to Antony and the Johnson's 'Hope there's someone' and it made me feel much better, so I'll probably lend her that. Take care of yourselves Lorraine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Witness statement
by elle 18 Jul '05

18 Jul '05

Right. There are 1500 of us. Didn't expect to be one of the first, but here goes: I met Liz a handful of times, but she sparkles in my memories. As has been beautifully chronicalled on ilx, she was magic. I remember picnics, laughter, bowling, laughter, pubs and more laughter. Oh, and rather fabulous cakes. How can this girl be gone? Why does it make me cry? I hardly knew her. It seems wrong when I try to explain it but makes sense when I think of just how bloody special she was. When I didn't know anyone, or felt a bit awkward, Liz was there, almost before I'd started feeling out of it, drawing me into the group, making me laugh whether it was talking about something serious or something ridiculous (and she had an unimaginable talent for sustaining such conversations!) She deserves so much more. This is so, so sad. Rob, Liz's family, and everyone who knew her properly, I'm thinking and praying for Liz and all of you. Love, hugs and home baking to you all. L x ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: A small note
by Katrina House 17 Jul '05

17 Jul '05

I just wanted to send my condolences to Rob and Liz's family. I saw Marianna's note on ILX last night and I didn't think it appropriate to post there, as Sinister was the place where I met Liz. Rob, I don't know if you're here anymore, I know that right now you will have many more things to contend with, but I hope you can take some solace in the happiness that Liz brought to so many others. I'm very sorry for your and the Daplyn family's loss. May Liz's memory live with you and many Sinistereen's forever. Much love and sadness, Katrina. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: (no subject)
by Kevin Smith 16 Jul '05

16 Jul '05

> Hi folks, > I'm terribly sorry to hear about your friend Liz's death. I know it > might be hard for your community to work through this and so I send > along my condolences and best wishes for all of you, especially those > that were close to her, in dealing with your loss. I would like to > send my hopes for continued safety to Londoners, but unfortunately > those hopes should probably be extended to any of you who reside in or > visit any place that may turn up as a target of this kind of horrible > violence. I just visited London for the first time a few months ago, > and was impressed with the beauty and energy of the city, as well as > the kindness extended to me by numerous strangers in everything from > giving help with directions on the Tube to sharing a pint with a > lonely traveller. I'm not surprised at all to hear about your > resilience and bravery in dealing with the bombings. And although I'm > not a Sinister member, I am involved in an online community somewhat > similar, and know how vital these relationships can be, especially in > hard times like the one you're going through now. So, as a non-member > and an American, I'd like to humbly let you know I am thinking about > all of you and hope in some small way this gesture may bolster the > strength you already have. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: RE: Sinisiter: A Stronger Society
by BridgeOnceBurned＠aol.com 14 Jul '05

14 Jul '05

I would just like to say, I hope that nobody was greatly moved by Mayfly's tragic story of 9-11. For anyone who was touched by that sad tale, you can take comfort in knowing she never went to school in NY. On 9-11, she was living in Rhode Island, you've been duped. It's a shame, but whatever, some people are just a little crazy. Having the unfortunate mispleasure of knowing Diane personally, I just want to take the liberty of letting everyone know that she takes a great deal of pleasure in these little tales. Terminal illness and the loss of parents to tragic suicides are other stories she likes to weave into her mundane existence. Kid, when are you going to grow up? Seriously, get a life, and take some god damned responsibility for some kind of existence instead of having other people feed off of your twisted and perverted imagination. You've grown up far too slow, and I hoped that after the past few years you would have maybe gained an ounce of common sense and decency, but I suppose you're just as depraved and helpless to your compulsive ways as ever. Sort your life out. -Frank +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Archives, photos offline
by honey＠missprint.org 13 Jul '05

13 Jul '05

Just a short line to say that it appears that members of the UK press are using the list archives to profit from tragedy, and so I've taken the measure of taking archives, photos etc. offline for now. I'm sorry about this to list members, but I won't have them using your content to make money from recent events. They'll be back soon when they no longer present an opportunity to generate revenue for the press. I'm aware there may be other ways of accessing some of this, but please don't discuss this on the list - but feel free to contact me privately if you need to. The list of course remains open - please feel free to post. Your mails have really touched me and I'm sure others. If anyone from the press is actually reading this, can I remind them please that it's clearly stated on the website that content of posts remain the copyright of originators of those mails, as do photos, etc., and you're not permitted to use them without asking. Honey +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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