July 2005 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: A Stronger Society
by Diane 13 Jul '05

13 Jul '05

Dearest Sinisterians...In the past 3 years that I have been included on this wonderful list, I've probably only written twice. It isn't that I don't care...but there just never seems to be time...I keep up on the reading though. However..since the attacks in London, I feel it is time I pulled myself to write to you all. Being that I am from the United States..I understand the impact that it has on a community. I must say that during September 11th I was going to school in New York City...and I lost a few of my close friends as well. What I will say to those that live in the UK is that regardless of how people handle the situation...it does make the people stronger. It pulls people together and makes them realize that they are not invincible. It is sad that it takes a tragedy to have many people see that we are all in need of eachother. I would just like everyone who is affected by this to know that you are not alone and that many other people can relate to the pain and suffering to come. Bless all of you! Take care of yourselves and eachother! Long Days & Pleasant Nights. -Diane __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sad and sweaty
by ruth allan 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

I'm checking my mails in a way that I havent done for ages, eyes peeled for news from sinister. Since honey posted this sad news about a missing member, I've suddenly felt connected to these terrible events in london and I guess what hits home is that it could have been any one of us UK listees. We've all travelled the tube, and all been on the bus and as so many have said, it feels like an attack on us all, and thats incredibly difficult to deal with, unbearably so, I imagine, for those close to Liz and our sympathies go out to you all who are directly affected. I've been lurking as usual, waiting for someone to say something to make sense of all this I suppose, and thats probably why I've been checking my mails so keenly, and waiting up for Newsnight, but no one can fix it can they? I guess life goes on, so today, after faffing about at home for a while, I went out to a meeting in a hotel and saw Terry Christian having one (a meeting that is) at the next table. This made me smile. The high point of the entire day (which was otherwise filled with time wasting antics, such as: talking to the pregnant girl at work about all her relatives names, ever, in an attempt to deduce which might make the most suitable third name, and emailing my male boss about his preferred beauty products. This line of conversation was quite fruitful actually, as it turns out he buys all his cosmetics from QVC. What are the chances of that then?! Isn't QVC completely frowned upon as the epitomy of uncool? Seems not, according to him, QVC is where folks too busy to shop shop. You do, in fact learn a great deal from wasting time it seems). Anyhow, my favourite moment of the day was listening to Dirty Dream Number two on my way back to work as I remembered Terry on the Word back in the early 90s... for those too young to remember and I hope thats most of you, Terry was this terrible mancunian host on a teen show in the UK called 'The Word'. It was abysmal, but launched the careers of some semi famous music related folks like... Jo Whiley (she was the music booker I believe) and Mark Lamarr, a well known stand up comedian and radio presenter. Terry's great skill was being completely unaffected by all the nonsense that went on around him, like L7 a rrriot grrrl act showing their fannies, or mark lamarr eating toenails... ah the joys. anyhow. These ramblings surely are too irreverent for such a sad hot night in the UK, so I'll leave this here, but I guess I just wanted to say hey sinister, hope your okay. ruthx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Shock
by Stuart Gardiner 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

It's been alarmingly easy to feel detached from what's gone on back home in the last few days, now that I'm living in the US. London feels a very long way away. I've been explaining to Americans with an almost blaze optimism why the bombings won't change Londoners' way of life. And how the Olympics will have a much bigger long-term impact than bombers ever can. And then this morning, four days later, on the Times newspaper website, I finally find what I've been waiting for - a list of the missing. And I come across a name I recognise. At the moment, there's just a numbness. The details of what happened, and why, seem pretty irrelevant right now. Any deaths, whatever the cause, are a tragedy for friends and family; but when it's someone so friendly and caring, with so much to offer and so much willingness to do so, it strikes home particularly hard. And of course I know there are other people on here, and one in particular, feeling so much worse. Apparently there's going to be a 2-minute silence in the UK on Thursday at noon. That's in the middle of the night for some of us, but I'm certain we'll all remember on that day in our own ways. We will go on. We must go on. But we will never forget. Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: Hard News
by Christine Irene 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

Wow, I don't really know what to say. While I haven't had much offlist interaction with Liz, save for the occasional reply one of us sent the other in response to a post, I know that many strong friendships have grown on this list. I will continue to maintain hope that Liz and many, many others will return home soon to live their lives, as they deserve. My thoughts and prayers are with everyone who has had to experience this tragedy. Thanks for sharing, Honey. love, ~stine ____________________________________________________ Sell on Yahoo! Auctions no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Hard news
by honey＠missprint.org 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

Very hard mail to write. I've been trying to decide when/if to write this, but some of you will know Liz Daplyn, long-term member of the list, and a truly lovely person. I hope everyone who knows her has heard about this already and I'm not delivering some awful shock to a friend of hers, but she's now counted as one of the missing from the London bombings. Her picture appearing on the front of yesterday's Independent on Sunday newspaper was too much for me not to post this, after waiting some time for news after first hearing. There's always hope, but a few people have suggested strongly I mail the list, and I think maybe they're right now. I know Liz less than others (and I'm going to stubbornly continue in the present tense for now) and I don't want to fall into the trap of eulogising the missing, but she always struck me as a very special person. The few times I met her, I felt like I was in a very safe warm protective bubble talking to her. Whenever we met, she seemed unfailingly kind, while having the gift of being extremely witty without ever sounding caustic, and totally engaged in whatever she was doing and whoever she was with. She sent me unexpected cards and emails on my birthday, out of the blue, apologising for being a poor correspondent when she was such a thoughtful caring one. One of earth's kindest inventions. I don't think now is the time for extensive comment about this on the list, except of course from those who are her friends and feel they want to, who are very welcome for whatever reason. The list archives will last forever, so please remember that 5 years from now, they will appear in Google. Remember her family, and those who love her who may be reading this, and let's be subdued and careful in response. And please please don't use Liz as a reason to widen comment about the events in London, or political rant. Liz must not be turned into some spark for political debate; she must be allowed to remain lovely, engaging, kind-hearted Liz. My thoughts are with those on the list who know her much better than I do, and one in particular. I don't think I can say any more to them than how much I feel for their agonising wait and pain, and how much I think of Liz. Honey +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Not the easiest day...
by Javi Sorribes 10 Jul '05

10 Jul '05

Hey, I've not posted for ages here... just reading you all in a kind of vouyeur way... Anyway... these are pretty hard days and maybe that's why I'm writing this... Just wanted to say to all of you London sinners... I understand you, being Spanish makes me feel really similar to you, you know I saw B&S for the first time live the day after Madrid bombs... and I think I know how you may feel now... The thing is... please, do what we did that day in the B&S concert... don't let them change your lives -- ---------------------------------- Javi Sorribes javiersorribes(a)gmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: lurker sends love
by angela _ 08 Jul '05

08 Jul '05

i never post on here any more, but just wanted to send my prayers to you all in london and the uk. i hope you are all well, as well as your friends and family. God bless. Angela Starling +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Ello babies
by Hewitt, Stephen 07 Jul '05

07 Jul '05

My love and thoughts to all london sinisterines and anyone else with family and friends here. Pretty much all of the sinis I'm in touch with have reported in. If anyone needs anything I am currently in central london, just off kingsway, for at least the next two hours. xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: t in the park
by Francesca 06 Jul '05

06 Jul '05

Hi there sinister! ages ago i wrote some post, most of them pointless probably, anyway there is a reason for my post: t in the park. anyone of you going? chance of meeting up? Here nothing changed too much since I last posted: I still like belle and sebastian (I even wrote something about them in the music page of a friend of mine and I am quite proud of it),I still go to university and waste most of my time anyway But I'll be living abroad from september. do you ever feel like your life has an expiration date? not like death, but the fact of going abroad leaving hours and hours of flight behind me all I know give me this feeling, like I should do things and visit places and I don't know what just because next summer I won't be here to do these things... that's why t in the park, i always wished to go and it was always just a dream because there have never been the perfect conditions and there was always the possibility of going the year after, instead this year there was the feeling of "not having another chance"(which is not true at all cause i'll stay away just one year, but the feeling is this one anyway) and here I am... francesca ___________________________________ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: crayons for all
by mummy i've grazed my knee 05 Jul '05

05 Jul '05

Hello, Hello hello, It's been almost a squillion years since I last posted, but I still lurk and still love. I have been tempted to post for a while but the sight of some old style reporting back on the wedding of former York Sinister Massive member Archel prompted me to get out my pencil and scribble to you all. CONGRATULATIONS Well done Archel - it's lovely lovely news. All a bit scary you know. I'm at the age now where people are starting to get married and have babies, but i just want to listen to the Field Mice and bury my head. STRUAN & THE CLOTHES The last time I nearly posted was after the wonderful wonderful mails by David and Honey about ME and the snazzy auction that Ciara was holding on ebay. I bid over £100 for Struans TOTP clothes (as imortalised by a number of sinisterines in a painting competition many years ago. Which Ken Chu won by cheating if my memory serves me right!) but didn't win. I won't be all maudling and wallow in pathos, but I was quite poorly a few years ago and have been for a long while since and it was so lovely to hear from others, and about the wonderful research that's going on into ME. It's a very worthwhile caus to support. It causes so much anguish for so many people - not just through the illness itself, but the constant difficulty of actually explaining it to people and getting that 'you're making it up' response. I hope they do find a cure. REPORTING BACK!!! There was a request for some more reporting back and I was in Edinburgh on Saturday to protest, so can report back from that. It was a fun day - I think it broke the world record for most Guardian reading Lib Dem voters in one place. The press would describe the whole affair as having 'a family atmosphere' - a synonym for quiet and unassuming. It was a great thing to be involved in and fantastic to see such a diverse range of people (apart from those silly anarchists who just ruin everything) but now and again I was disappointed with the lack of passion, and the march did occassionally turn into a stroll round Edinburgh. Having said that, Geldof is great and anything he is involved with gets the thumbs up from me. I'm thinking about going up to Gleneagles tomorrow as I have the day off work, but maybe not the money. I've just read back and that was some proper rubbish reporting back. I'm out of practice. I'll take some lessons before the Barbican gig! NOSTALGIA I was feeling whimsical about sinister the other day. I thought about all the lovely people I had met and beautiful things I had seen and done. I can pinpoint the day my life began - it was the summer of 1997 and I was watering my neighbours garden at the rate of £1 a day, which I thought was GRATE. The chore was eased by the tones of Whiley and Lamacq on the evening session. They introduced a song by boy/girl (as I then thought) duo Belle And Sebastian called Lazy Line Painter Jane which stopped me in my tracks. The most amazing thing I had ever heard. The next day it was off to Rex Records in Ipswich to pick up the 7" and I've never looked back. As I was musing in bashful whimsy, I really felt I could trace back every facet of my modern life, everything I've done and become, to this day as a hapless 15 year old in a Suffolk village. It was quite a daunting thought but so very very lovely. SHAMELESS POP POP POP It's not shameless at all, it's with much shame. Sinister helped me into a band - May 5th 2001, my 19th birthday, the first York Sinister picnic and the day I joined Ladybird Ladybird. Well, four years on I have a job, but yearn for fey pop superstardom. My current band (including two ex sinisterines) has just got a web site up with some tunes to look at. I would be most enamoured if any of you felt the urge to have a stop, look and listen. And if Geoff Travis is on this list too... http://www.talesofjenny.co.uk is the place to look RIBENA There is no mention of it any more. I will now return to lurkerdom after my very uninspiring attempt at re-emerging. I hope all of you are very well. Keep posting and being nice people. See you all in London in September. Chris Jones x ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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