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Sinister: Musicians, Cunning Linguists, Please give Heed
by kenneth.chu＠uclh.nhs.uk 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

Hello, Sinister, This was the first time I used a "God Help The Girl" song title in an email yet (save for act of the apostle and funny little frog, obv). I don't think I did a very good job - will try harder - I haven't heard it yet, either, so that doesn't help. I have heard mixed reviews from people though, and I'm finding it difficult to believe that it can be as good as Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of The War of the Worlds. I went to see that the other night, on a weekend that saw me travelling from london to paisley then back to london and down to brighton and back, with two nearly missed flights in between, to witness a matrimony involving a member of this parish (who would have believed??) and also to witness martians landing on horsell common (who would have believed??) There has been a lot of travelling, in fact, over the past weeks, I went to Latitude Festival the other day and saw FEATHER BOA and also CARSMILESTEVE plus CAMERA OBSCURA and VASELINES featuring BELFAST BOB and STEVIE JACKSON zomg. Stevie seems to have been enjoying the extra rawking out involved with playing with the Vaselines. Bless him. They played that song Nirvana played and everyone cheered. I also OMGWTF saw BLUR. It was awesome, I got drunk and wailed along to like TENDER and FOR TOMORROW and stuff, and the very next day, instead of going back to work A.G.AIN I went to Roskilde to see OASIS and ZEDOHEMGEE SLIPKNOT! \M/ They were so fucking great. They also said the word fucking about a fucking thousand times. There was even fucking fireworks. Saw Coldplay too, they were fucking shit. Rumour has it some one is getting older soon, too. Begins with S and rhymes with minister. Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This email is confidential and is intended solely for the person or Entity to whom it is addressed. If this is not you, please forward the Message to mail.administrator(a)uclh.nhs.uk. We have scanned this email before sending it, but cannot guarantee that malicious software is absent and we shall carry no liability in this regard. We advise that information intended to be kept confidential should not Be sent by email. We also advise that health concerns should be Discussed with a medical professional in person or by telephone. NHS Direct can also provide advice. We shall not be liable for any failure to follow this advice. University College London Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust (UCLH). +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: And now all the kids have got Facebooks
by Terry Underwear 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

hello sinister, Stuart's been up to some good stuff lately hasn't he? I love Another Saturday on the Dark is the Night compilation, I do like it when he goes all folky. God Help the Girl is a fine record too, and it's nice to see Neil Hannon put in a very solid innings at number 9. It's great that you're still around. Sure you've changed, but haven't we all. When I first joined Sinister I was using APA referencing, confounded by obsessions and had just broken up with a girl from Vancouver. These days I reference using Vancouver style, am obsessed with confounders, and am married to that girl. That's about all I have to say. terry -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Antics, Hijinks, Shenanigans, Mischief...
by robhalcrow＠tiscali.co.uk 27 Jul '09

27 Jul '09

It has been a long long time since I posted anything to Sinister. I was prodded in this direction by a review in a friend's mag written by Stephen Trousse who surely (I'm sure) is (was) Trousers. If he isn't then he jolly well ought to be. Did anyone see the God Help The Girl prog on C4 last week? It was lovely, could have done with a bit longer really. I found it strangely reassuring to see even Stevie Jackson is looking older. It's not just me then. The album is a real winner in case anyone hasn't heard it. At first I liked the Asa (from Smoosh) songs best. Then "Pretty Eve in the Tub" (all Stuart and stately strings). Now I'm into "Hiding Neath My Umbrella". It's got a lovely early 60s, melancholy/happy, Bacharach and David feel. It's in 3/4 (or 6/8 or somesuch). It's got a lot of piano and then a big orchestra. It reminds me of "It's For You" which Lennon & McCrrtney wrote for Cilla Black when she was a singer. Classy. Anyway, you've got to hear it for yourself. The orchestral flourish in the middle will knock your socks off, as Alan Partridge might have said. That's all I wanted to say really. And that I'm still playing The Life Pursuit a lot and reckon it might be one of their best. Look at all that on-topic content! Ye cannae complain at that (?) I'm glad Sinister is still with us. Love to one and all. Robert Stay safe online with 50% off Norton Security 2009 - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/securepc _______________________________________________________________________ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: So, I guess I shouldnt ask for this, but anyway....
by Javi Sorribes 29 Jun '09

29 Jun '09

Well... I'm going to london in about a month or so, and I'm hoping to get B&S bootlegs and all that stuff... can anyone help with record shops? thanx a lot! -- Javi Sorribes javiersorribes(a)miperronotienenariz.com http://www.miperronotienenariz.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: God help the girl
by Javi Sorribes 25 Jun '09

25 Jun '09

It's been a while since I last posted here, but no-one has posted this yet and I thought... why not? I'm a little lazy to write it myself, so I'll just copy-paste from Pitchfork (thanks Stacey for the link in Facebook): ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- After an internet-wide talent search, Belle and Sebastian leader Stuart Murdoch's long-in-the-works latest project-- a twee musical called God Help the Girl-- is finally coming to fruition. The soundtrack, featuring new Murdoch songs and a couple reworked B&S favorites, is due June 23 on Matador in North America (June 22 on Rough Trade in Europe). First single "Come Monday Night" is out May 11, but you can hear it right now on the God Help the Girl MySpace. Along with the work of a 45-piece orchestra conducted by Withnail & I composer Rick Wentworth, the upcoming album features vocals from Murdoch himself, his B&S cronies, Asya from Smoosh, online finds Brittany Stallings and Dina Bankole, and Neil Hannon of the Divine Comedy. But it's Scottish newcomer Catherine Ireton who takes top billing-- she sings on 10 of the record's 14 tracks. So who is this overnight twee idol? Well, if she looks like she belongs on the cover of a Belle and Sebastian record, it's probably because she was already on the cover of a Belle and Sebastian record (2006 single "White Collar Boy"). She's also one half of acoustic pop duo the Go Away Birds, who currently have 1,017 plays on their MySpace at press time. Expect that number to rise. Based on the Go Away Birds tracks and the Ireton showcase "Come Monday Night", B&S stalwarts shouldn't have much trouble falling for her. God Help the Girl tracklist (including who sings what) after the jump: God Help the Girl: 01 Act of the Apostle (Catherine Ireton) 02 God Help the Girl (Catherine Ireton) 03 Pretty Eve in the Tub (Stuart Murdoch and Catherine Ireton) 04 A Uniﬁed Theory (Instrumental) 05 Hiding Neath My Umbrella (Catherine Ireton and Stuart Murdoch) 06 Funny Little Frog (Brittany Stallings) 07 If You Could Speak (Catherine Ireton and Anna Miles) 08 Musician Please Take Heed (Catherine Ireton) 09 Perfection as a Hipster (Neil Hannon and Catherine Ireton) 10 Come Monday Night (Catherine Ireton) 11 Music Room Window (Instrumental) 12 I Just Want His Jeans (Asya) 13 I'll Have to Dance With Cassie (Catherine Ireton) 14 A Down and Dusky Blonde (Dina Bankole, Catherine Ireton, Celia Garcia, Brittany Stallings, Asya) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's all great but... twee? I thought we were past that word... Anyways, great news for us all. -- Javi Sorribes javiersorribes(a)miperronotienenariz.com http://www.miperronotienenariz.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Dramaturgical Assitance! Stat! (Well, sort of)
by Jay Eckard 22 Jun '09

22 Jun '09

Gosh! Mr FP asked where the angel-and-demon-on-your-shoulder trope comes from, and I'm just the person to elucidate! Its most direct source is Christopher Marlowe's Doctor Faustus that have a "goode angell and euil spirit" that come out together from time to time to either cheer for or against the good Doctor's repentance. [It comes from older English mystery plays that feature good and bad angels talking to a given soul -- like in the Castle of Perservance -- but in none of the Medieval plays do they come out and bicker with each other directly, like they do in Faustus.] I also quite like Mr FP's sitcom idea -- especially the portraits. I think somebody should try their hand at it. As you can see, I'm struggling to come up with some actual B&S /content/ but I seem totally strapped. Following on from others talking about Camera Obscura, I saw thier show this weekend in NC. It was keen. And they played "Eighties Fan", and that had Stuart on guitar when they recorded it in the studio. See! Cotent! They also played "Franch Navy" and "Razzle Dazzle Rose" which was quite nice, but I pine for the day they play "Roman Holiday" live. Has anyone seen or heard them do that? --GayJay -- "If you can't be great you may as well be bright..." Sodastream "There's more to life than books, you know/ But not much more..." The Smiths "The natural state of the theatre is that of insurmountable obstacles on the path to imminent disaster." Phillip Henslowe _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutori… +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Chuffing in the silence (between laughter tracks)
by FP 07 Jun '09

07 Jun '09

Hello there, Gosh, Sinister Action. People posting once more. It almost tempted me to throw an oar or something in Sinister's direction. The Pinefox recently said that he's not in a sitcom. I was slightly disappointed. A Pinefox-based sitcom would be excellent BBC4 material; I can easily imagine 6 episodes of the Pinefox getting into classic comedy scrapes. Episode 1: the Pinefox mislays his favourite purple jumper. Episode 2: something involving shocking indiepop gossip. The season would culminate in a struggle for control of the North London James Joyce Society (Correspondance Committee), with a Comedy Nemesis introduced earlier in the series. Are there any commissioning editors on Sinister any more? (I should add - because it confused people the last time I posted - that there's no connection or intentional name-similarity between me and the Pinefox. I stole my name from a hotel-cum-golf-club-cum-spa just outside Scunthorpe. A lovely part of the world, beautiful when the fires of the steelworks light up the night sky, blighted only by the fact that it is now represented in the European Parliament by a former National Front member who was also a self-professed National Socialist. Not a good reflection on the region.) On the subject of telly, why hasn't anyone suggested a B&S sitcom? That would work quite well, if we could imagine them all living in a giant shared house a la The Monkees. There could be a running joke about Sarah's Englishness; and portraits of Isobel and Stu D looking down on the living-room,* positioned so that when someone was standing in the main "giving a speech" spot on the set, the two former members look down on them like angel and demon on the shoulder. The band themselves should choose which would be which. Alasdair Gray would hopefully be willing to play their upstairs neighbour, a bearded artist in smock and beret who regularly gets annoyed at the noise coming from downstairs. I wonder where that "angel and demon on the shoulder" trope originates. Everything in iconography originates somewhere - the Christian halo, for example, comes from depictions of the Unconquered Sun, from the Roman cult of the same name. Of course, you probably all already know that; it's hardly an obscure fact. Angels and demons (not the book or film) are presumably a little more obscure. Someone also mentioned Camera Obscura recently. I've been out of the loop a bit recently, but I *assume* Sturan is still intimately associated with T. Campbell of that ilk. Given CO are playing Indietracks this year, it would be nice to get Sturan, a camera, and a big hulking great steam engine in close proximity. I've only been to the Christmas Indietracks - that time that the King of Partick did a DJ set in the brake carriage, setting up that whole CO-Indietracks relationship - but I did manage to get on the footplate of one of their engines, the unique British Rail Standard 5 with Caprotti valve gear. I'm glad I did, because it was bloody cold on the platform and toasty-warm on the footplate. Not being a trainspotter, I forget the number of the thing. The ATP people are missing a trick now they're over at Minehead, if you ask me; they should be calling up the WSR and get some sort of Great Western Indietracks Rip-Off Event going. The WSR goes right past Butlin's after all. That's all from me for now: I even managed to get some B&S-related content in. Let me know if there's any part of this post you didn't understand. -- - FP - http://www.symbolicforest.com/blog/ -- * much as, if you go to the Granada TV studios in Manchester, they have a haunting painting of Tony Wilson, in stark but touching black-and-white outline, overlooking the reception desk. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Mont Royal, or Perfection as a Hipster
by layla 07 Jun '09

07 Jun '09

Sinister! Summer is upon us. I have scrubbed down my modest balcony-cum-fire-escape, installed a table and chairs, and filled the remaining space with plants. I was never much of a plant person before, but now... Now I walk around the Jean-Talon market positively transfixed by flowers and herbs and vines whose names I don't know or particularly care to know, just wallowing in the untrammelled sensory bliss of it all. (Oh, winter was long.) I have been thinking about picnics. I have been trying to recall the last picnic I attended, but I can't. This strikes me as a situation that needs rectifying. And so I propose a Montreal picnic to all you lurking listees, whose paths I perhaps unknowingly cross en route to the metro or the bakery. Let us gather one Sunday and break baguette together. I don't own a football, and if I toss a frisbee it is likely an excellent indication to duck, but such pastimes would of course be welcome. Or we can while away the afternoon with generous quantities of wine, nostalgia, and tinny Belle & Sebastian on portable speakers. (God help this girl.) Layla P.S.: Is anyone going to see Camera Obscura on June 26th at La Tulipe? Their latest album has a metallic Scandinavian sound that I can't quite coordinate to any given mood, but I still plan to attend and wouldn't mind company. __________________________________________________________________ Get the name you've always wanted @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com! Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: I know where this plug goes
by P F 26 May '09

26 May '09

Eric Erasure can, and indeed does, speak for himself. Personally I am neither married, in a committed relationship, in an uncommitted relationship, in a sitcom, in a shack, standing to reason, getting laid all the time, or near the mark. Isn't Eric also writing a website about computer games? I think he should use sinister to promote that. It's good to hear from droll Kenneth, but his story was a bit repulsive - reminiscent in that respect of a very long post that Tim Hopkins sent in, oh, early 1999 perhaps. Crikey, that is over 10 years ago. I am glad to know that I am finally allowed to post to sinister again, though I don't expect everyone else feels the same way. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I know where this plug goes
by kenneth.chu＠uclh.nhs.uk 26 May '09

26 May '09

Hello Sinisters, I haven't been posting very much lately because I made a promise to myself a while ago that I wasn't going to post here until I get laid so I could boast about getting laid on this list. However it's been too long and also nobody else has been talking about getting laid recently.. What is going on? Have you all taken up celibacy? Come on let your celibate days be over and tell me about all your dirty deeds (ones related to this email's subject title particularly welcome) Amy must be super informed as she somehow knew of the super impromptu SINISTER PICNIC that happened at ATP2009! It was amazing, loads of people turned up including FEATHER B, STUART H, GINA T, JAMES T, IAN A, ROBIN S, KEN C!! We played darts, and watched teh footeh! Then Robin S went off for a poo and Ian A got worried that when Robin didn't return for a while (possibly a testament to Finnigan's fish and chips). Some of us gave Kimya Dawson a group hug. It was all crazy stuff. I also totally pwned the dude from Shellac at poker that weekend and won loads of cash \m/ And then tomorrow I'm off to Barcelona for Primavera! Hurrah! I've just learnt how to say "¿usted quiere volver al hotel conmigo tener sexo?", so when I come back, I'll probably post about how I got laid. Hasta Luego Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This email is confidential and is intended solely for the person or Entity to whom it is addressed. If this is not you, please forward the Message to mail.administrator(a)uclh.nhs.uk. We have scanned this email before sending it, but cannot guarantee that malicious software is absent and we shall carry no liability in this regard. We advise that information intended to be kept confidential should not Be sent by email. We also advise that health concerns should be Discussed with a medical professional in person or by telephone. NHS Direct can also provide advice. We shall not be liable for any failure to follow this advice. University College London Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust (UCLH). +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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