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Sinister: If you find yourself caught in Brighton and Hove (or Hong Kong)
by Kenneth P Y Chu 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

Hi sinister, Greetings from Hong Kong. Yes, a long distance sinister love affair had proved too much to bear and I ended up moving all the way to Hong Kong to live with my beloved. Haha Not really. Got you going though! I actually am in Hong Kong at the moment though, no kidding. Family business and all that. Hong Kong is the land of rude English names for places e.g. a new housing estate being advertised that is called "NOBLAND". Actually that's the only rude one I saw so far. Apart from "Mong Kok". Dear Catastrophe Waitress ================= I don't think I'm going to make myself popular or unpopular here, and say that I think DICKWANK is going to be fantastic I still believe that the following tracks on the album are going to be SUPERB... this is how I GUESS these tracks are going to be like - it's not as if I've HEARD IT ALREADY and all - I mean, it's not been released yet. If She Wants Me - I'm guessing that if you liked "Big John Shaft" you'll like this one, and listening to it is going to make you feel content with the world. Wrapped up in Books - I think I'm gonna check check checkcheckcheck check check check out its melody. Lord Anthony - I think the pint glass noises that was the best bit of the bootleg recording will be gone, but the song is still going to be good. If you find yourself caught in love - I am guessing that this is going to be one of my favourite songs ever. Of course I already KNOW this one coz it was on the peel session the other time. I'm a cuckoo - This I think is going to be a THIN LIZZY tribute song, and sound a bit like The Boys Are Back In Town, which is good in my books. Piazza, New York Catcher - I think this song is going to be a nice little song with just Stuart singing over an acoustic guitar like a folk singer. And I'm going to have no clue about the lyrics because I'll know nothing about baseball and I'm guessing this song has some baseball references in it. THIN LIZZY-OH ========= I think, rather than being just for a sake of a rhyme, this is in fact a reference to Thin Lizzy's version of "Whiskey in the Jar" in which, the lyrics go... Whack for my daddy-oh whack for my daddy-oh There's whiskey in the jar-ro* ... with I'm a cuckoo being (I am guessing to be) a Thin Lizzy tribute and all. It could have been a METALLICA tribute, of course, as METALLICA have also done a version of that song with the same daddy-oh jar-ro trick. But then I'm a cuckoo will have sounded like METALLICA, and thus shit. And the lyrics would probably go I'd rather be in Cai-ro Listening to Metalli-ca-ro but it isn't. Perhaps the reference was a little too subtle this time for some. If how I guess the album is going to be is correct, it's almost going to be like B&S have matured and won't be spending the whole time singing about having being odd in school and having no friends or having wet dreams anymore, but sometimes sing about having loved and hurt and a being better person for it, or choking on cornflakes. And I am going to like it. TIGERMILKING ========= I was going to use... "FIND OUT IF KEN CHU IS SINGLE" ...as the advert for Tigermilking, which would have been a killer! However since I doubt I can make it this time (I would have JUST got back from Hong Kong and all) I might cause a mass chaos when people turn up and my availability is still unknown. Dafyd, who did a better job at advertisting Tigermilking anyway (btw Tigermilking REALLY IS highly recommended despite the probable lack of my DJing skills this time) also said... >>the night is the same day England play Turkey at football and that kicks >>off at 6 so if anyone wants to meet us at the Trotwood for post >>tigermilking footie action then arrive at 6!<< I guess he meant PRE-tigermilking footie action, however, the idea of POST-TIGERMILKING FOOTIE actually sounds great. We can bring a football and play outside the Betsey at 2 in the morning - we can be like Ronaldo in the Nike adverts! Ooo ooo ooo ahh ooo ahh eee ahhh oooo ... mas que nada. etc.(which incidentally sounds like the latin instrumental version of I don't want to play football) Football ===== Speaking of football the cable TV in Hong Kong is fantastic - it's like the show premiership football live and stuff, and if you missed it you can watch the repeats. In fact, that's pretty much all they show when there's no live football on, I've watched Charlton v Liverpool 3 times now, what a hat-trick. AND, ESPN (channel 7 on cable) have the PUNNIEST sports news program in the world. They even made RUDE puns the other day, paulo di canio slapped Lisbie on the bum, and the presenter later wondered if Paulo di canio's skills is going to RUB OFF to the other players, and the other presenter said .. no BUTTS about it. BOOM BOOM PTISH TWANG BONG. Oh yes and they show bowling. Yours Ooh get me i'm so controversal-ly. Ken x * I don't really know if that's EXACTLY how the lyrics went - I never understood it - what's so whack about getting free whiskey? Did they actually mean to say "DOPE for my daddy-oh"? "SICK for my daddy-oh"? - It took me ages too to work out all these sk8r talk... Or did they mean they're getting his dad some drugs to go with the booze? Or if they meant if his dad had drunk all that whiskey he'd be whacked? Somebody enlighten me please. P.S.: I hope the B&S DVD is going to work on the playstation 2, with interactive games and all. Mmm maybe B&S SMACKDOWN - a bit like that Wu-Tang Clan kung fu game. Killah Belle vs Murdoch Man, Ol' Dirty Bob. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: "language lessons" - inspired words, from a man who knows how to ski
by David Hewitt 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

G'day Sinister. HIC! I've got the hiccups. (Editor's note: I attempted to punctuate this email with hiccupping noises, but it was extremely annoying and not at all amusing, so I took them out. Just one more way in which the Internet is better than real life. Right, readers?) WHITE SPACE ...makes posts more readable. Because we get the sun down here while most of you lot are sleeping, or out dancing or something, I normally read your emails in a big batch, when I've just sat down at my desk of a morning, and I'm still a bit bleary-eyed. Help us out, yeah? DON'T GO! Oh, and while I'm bleating - no more of this "it's not you, it's me ... I'm leaving" nonsense. If we didn't like you, we don't care that you're leaving, and if we did like you, we end up saying "please stay!" and it gets all messy and difficult. Just take a step back and lurk for a bit (nobody'll know), and then come back when something catches your interest again. It'll seem like a nice surprise. They all seem to come back eventually anyway. If you don't, you probably weren't ever really here. DCW We've got Diet Coke With Lemon here now, and also Diet Coke With Vanilla. They're both pretty tasty. They're "DCWL" and "DCWV" for short. So "DCW" is like me standing in front of the fridge in the Deli, making my mind up: "DCW...?" Oh, but that's the extent of my review for the moment. I still haven't heard so much as a note of the thing. BROWN PAPER PACKAGES TIED UP WITH STRING I love ordering things online, even though it doesn't always quite pan out the way it should. Having said that, I want to get this new Camera Obscura album and single that the kids are so keen on these days. If they're half as good as the previous one, I'm sold. Can anyone recommend somewhere decent to order such things from, that will ship to Australia? Thanks very much. KEN CHU Is he alright? HAPPY BIRTHDAY! To Laura and Rachel, perhaps somewhat belatedly, but with heartfelt sentiment. You're both divine, and I'm wholeheartedly behind another year of the pair of you. There must be 4 or 5 Sinister birthdays most days of the year, I suppose, given how many of us there are. Happy birthday to the rest of you as well, then. Have a drink for me. "SGS SHOULD POST MORE" ...said the inimitable Mark Casarotto. And so say I. He also took the piss out of Archel a little bit, but I doubt she minded. I actually had to think for a really long time when I read Archel's post, to figure out whether it really struck a chord with me, or whether I violently disagreed with it. It's definitely one of the two, and nowhere in between, but I'm still not quite sure which. How strange. I don't think that music defines me any more, either, I suppose. The sort of song that would encapsulate me these days would be pretty rubbish, I reckon, and you sure as heck couldn't dance to it. As much as there's a place for 'frothy' pop, though, there's still a way in which I still need 'serious' music to remind me of things, even if I now know them deep down. I guess it's just not quite such an urgent need as when I was finding out these things for the first time. Dammit, I was all set on being opinionated, and I've ended up somewhere in the middle, after all. Anyway, there still is music that I let sit inside with me, looking out at everything else. And I still seek it out like a drug. HEY, THAT'S MY MISSUS! Dirty Vicar said: "I don't think I'll go to the UK to see B&S this year. If they want me to see them play they will have to come to me. but I am reminded of one thing from a while back - remember how the B&S manager person laid into some poor American who was all sad because B&S weren't coming to her town? He said that the band had played there before and were now more interested in playing in places they hadn't been to before, like Reykjavik. Since then the band have basically ignored Reykjavik and played a succession of gigs in towns they've already played in. If I lived in Iceland I would be very annoyed. " And you know what... he's dead right. Fuck you, Belle and Sebastian. And play in Australia while you're at it, you sorry bunch of bastards. NEW SLANG Just when I think I'm getting the hang of this whole 'X0r' thing, 'izzle' comes down the pipes. Crap. HAPPY VS. SAD The Duke of Harringay said: "I was having a discussion on the way home from school today about art, and I was saying how in general a lot of artists in a variety of media make work which is about 'dark' or melancholic themes, and that it's a lot easier to do that than to capture the idea of fun (this is why most of my own stuff is kind of world weary - I'm just too lazy to try anything different or more challenging). When people do 'happy' it tends as often as not to be clichéd and shit and shallow... " Which I thought was a very good point, well made. I reckon there's perhaps a bit more to it, though. I think the ideal state in which to be creative is when you're fairly miserable, but not quite so miserable as to not be able to be bothered. I mean, when you're happy, you're hardly analysing your inner state, and pondering how and why you've become that way, are you? You're out doing fun stuff, not incisively documenting it. When you sit down to write, compose or paint (or whatever) about something happy and fun, it's already a contrived sort of act, isn't it? You're making yourself do it, because you think it will be worthwhile, perhaps in terms of what you produce, or perhaps in terms of what you stand to earn by doing so. So it's bound to be more frivolous or more cliché. When you're dealing with darker material, you sort of need to get it out, to externalise it. Sort of like how you might choose to have a wank, but you really NEED to do a poo. I've spoiled it now, haven't I? Ah, well. CHEQUE PLEASE I guess that'll do me for today. Take care all. Bulk love, -Vanilla Flavoured David. _________________________________________________________________ Get less junk mail with ninemsn Premium. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: Excuse me darlin', can we have the bill please?
by The Hodottir 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Hello there Fear ye not, this is unlikely to become another email about the rubbishness of girls compared to boys - oh lordy, I'm still smarting from the backlash of that one: mostly came the "Tchuchhhuhuh! Speak for yourself, SISTER!" retorts I'd expected. Sorry ladies. T'was a bad point well made, I thought. In think. As it happens, I'm not emailing as one of the old-school listees. Despite being thoroughly Sinister since the Pot Noodle Days, I've never really been one of the gang. I did come to a couple of London picnics, mind. I even hooked up another couple of Sinisters (now very happily and sinfully living in Bristol - where everyone who's too nice to live in London goes). Yup. But as a glamourous 50s film star might have said, "I've been to paradise, but I ain't never been to 'Tigermilking'". Not yet, that is. For some reason, perhaps to be explained (I'm not sure how strong my evidence is), the new album has sparked a strange sense of panic and fear in me. Folks, I think this might be the end of an era. The end of an era when Belle & Sebastian was a comfort to life's misfits. When it was pant-wettingly rare and exciting to hear a B&S song on the radio. My Dear Catastrophe Sinisters, I think we're about to be invaded. ***Dramatic pause in email, not really for purposes of drama, but to enjoy 'Ex-con' by Smog on Xfm*** Drama over, in fact Xfm (For international listees - Xfm is London's main indie radio station), was the straw that broke this paranoid camel's back. I was in the bath, happily spongeing away to Linkin Park (or whatever) when I first heard 'Step into my office..' and nearly choked on the soap. Exhibit A: if Xfm are playing B&S, something is afoot. Then, the following week, cheeky aped-faced comic DJ Jimmy Carr claims they're his 'favourite band'. THEN the band are featured with an article in the station's magazine, closely followed by a 90 minute special play-out of the new album. As you can imagine, I've gone into complete neurosis by this point. "GERROFF, THEY'RE MIIIIIIINE!", I screeched quite silently in my own head, followed by some frantic hoovering (it was Sunday). Is anyone else feeling this? I stayed up and listened to the album play-out cum [sic] interview, and to be honest I was underwhelmed, but as has been said, it takes time to love any B&S album, so I'm none too worried. I mean, I *hated* TWATTYBUS when it came out (these days I just hate the GRATUITOUS use of it's tracks on TV - Teachers is fine, great even, but in Wife Swap it was purely vulgar - imagine the spoken end of 'Boy with the Arab Strap' played TWICE IN SUCCESSION to illustrate two different 'family moments'. Euyuch! No, I'm sure I'll grow to love the album as though it were my own, but I genuinely think our blessed days of fan-dom are over. From now on, it'll be pub conversations like [whine] "But I liked them yeeeears ago!" - sob. I can't bear it. But I guess as the Wonderboy Murdoch [allegedly] said in aforementioned magazine, every music-maker reaches a point where they want to be the one who's influencing the kids. It's fair enough I suppose, although why he can't just go on influencing the cant-give-it-up grown-ups I'll never know. I only hope the kids know what they're getting into. Like when I was a kid who didn't appreciate sweetcorn, I hope someone pulls them up and reminds them that kids all over the world are being starved of decent, inspiring tunes. 'Don't know they're born. And so, talking of over-boiled vegetables, I'm brought to The Astoria - London's stickiest venue. What ARE the band thinking?? But of *course* I'm going. The friday, naturally, for t'is date night. Did CarsmileSteve claim B&S play their worst gigs in London? I beg to differ - doesn't the date 29.06.01 mean ANYTHING to you? RAH rocked. Not that I'm biased.. :oD By way of caution, me, Joe and Flo are gonna hit the Bath Pavilion - clearly the most refined choice, says I. And I has says enough. Seriously though, if it all goes public, let's protest. I'll bring a water pistol, you bring the bath bombs. Miss Ho xxx _________________________________________________________________ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Excuse me darlin', can we have the bill please?
by The Hodottir 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Hello there Fear ye not, this is unlikely to become another email about the rubbishness of girls compared to boys - oh lordy, I'm still smarting from the backlash of that one: mostly came the "Tchuchhhuhuh! Speak for yourself, SISTER!" retorts I'd expected. Sorry ladies. T'was a bad point well made, I thought. In think. As it happens, I'm not emailing as one of the old-school listees. Despite being thoroughly Sinister since the Pot Noodle Days, I've never really been one of the gang. I did come to a couple of London picnics, mind. I even hooked up another couple of Sinisters (now very happily and sinfully living in Bristol - where everyone who's too nice to live in London goes). Yup. But as a glamourous 50s film star might have said, "I've been to paradise, but I ain't never been to 'Tigermilking'". Not yet, that is. For some reason, perhaps to be explained (I'm not sure how strong my evidence is), the new album has sparked a strange sense of panic and fear in me. Folks, I think this might be the end of an era. The end of an era when Belle & Sebastian was a comfort to life's misfits. When it was pant-wettingly rare and exciting to hear a B&S song on the radio. My Dear Catastrophe Sinisters, I think we're about to be invaded. ***Dramatic pause in email, not really for purposes of drama, but to enjoy 'Ex-con' by Smog on Xfm*** Drama over, in fact Xfm (For international listees - Xfm is London's main indie radio station), was the straw that broke this paranoid camel's back. I was in the bath, happily spongeing away to Linkin Park (or whatever) when I first heard 'Step into my office..' and nearly choked on the soap. Exhibit A: if Xfm are playing B&S, something is afoot. Then, the following week, cheeky aped-faced comic DJ Jimmy Carr claims they're his 'favourite band'. THEN the band are featured with an article in the station's magazine, closely followed by a 90 minute special play-out of the new album. As you can imagine, I've gone into complete neurosis by this point. "GERROFF, THEY'RE MIIIIIIINE!", I screeched quite silently in my own head, followed by some frantic hoovering (it was Sunday). Is anyone else feeling this? I stayed up and listened to the album play-out cum [sic] interview, and to be honest I was underwhelmed, but as has been said, it takes time to love any B&S album, so I'm none too worried. I mean, I *hated* TWATTYBUS when it came out (these days I just hate the GRATUITOUS use of it's tracks on TV - Teachers is fine, great even, but in Wife Swap it was purely vulgar - imagine the spoken end of 'Boy with the Arab Strap' played TWICE IN SUCCESSION to illustrate two different 'family moments'. Euyuch! No, I'm sure I'll grow to love the album as though it were my own, but I genuinely think our blessed days of fan-dom are over. From now on, it'll be pub conversations like [whine] "But I liked them yeeeears ago!" - sob. I can't bear it. But I guess as the Wonderboy Murdoch [allegedly] said in aforementioned magazine, every music-maker reaches a point where they want to be the one who's influencing the kids. It's fair enough I suppose, although why he can't just go on influencing the cant-give-it-up grown-ups I'll never know. I only hope the kids know what they're getting into. Like when I was a kid who didn't appreciate sweetcorn, I hope someone pulls them up and reminds them that kids all over the world are being starved of decent, inspiring tunes. 'Don't know they're born. And so, talking of over-boiled vegetables, I'm brought to The Astoria - London's stickiest venue. What ARE the band thinking?? But of *course* I'm going. The friday, naturally, for t'is date night. Did CarsmileSteve claim B&S play their worst gigs in London? I beg to differ - doesn't the date 29.06.01 mean ANYTHING to you? RAH rocked. Not that I'm biased.. :oD By way of caution, me, Joe and Flo are gonna hit the Bath Pavilion - clearly the most refined choice, says I. And I has says enough. Seriously though, if it all goes public, let's protest. I'll bring a water pistol, you bring the bath bombs. Miss Ho xxx _________________________________________________________________ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: die Kaiserschlacht
by Dirty Vicar 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Here's something that's been bothering me. The new Belle & Sebastian album is called "Dear Catastrophe Waitress". Three words, shortenable to the initials DCW. So why are people inventing an endless succession of >10 letter "acronyms" for it? As an old person I feel that this was maybe funny for TBWTAS, but it has outlived its usefulness. With my rubbish internet connection and distaste for copyright theft I've not managed to download the new record yet. So I can't review it. I can think of reasons why it will be the record with which B&S go rub - lots of old recycled songs that never made it onto earlier records, big name producer likely to smother the B&S sound, Isobel no longer being in the band, songs sounding like The Police, etc. But I imagine I'll buy it anyway, and on past form I'll probably like it. I have certainly enjoyed the last run of records from the great band of our times, with "Storytelling" being a particular favourite round the Vicarage when I'm in a contemplative mood. I reckon I'll buy the album in that shop in Glasgow when I'm over. do they still give away stuff to people who buy indie wu-tang product? you can never have too many t-shirts. I'm going to be in Glasgow for the Aislers Set concert. I'm travelling alone to a city where I don't really know anyone to see a band I'm only quite fond of. So I expect an evening of being that weird guy in the corner on his own will be in order. Plus ca change, hein? I don't think I'll go to the UK to see B&S this year. If they want me to see them play they will have to come to me. but I am reminded of one thing from a while back - remember how the B&S manager person laid into some poor American who was all sad because B&S weren't coming to her town? He said that the band had played there before and were now more interested in playing in places they hadn't been to before, like Reykjavik. Since then the band have basically ignored Reykjavik and played a succession of gigs in towns they've already played in. If I lived in Iceland I would be very annoyed. I'm not sure if I've posted since the Pinefox visited Dublin. Pretty much everything he said was accurate, except for certain matters. In other musical developments, I went to see popular band Camera Obscura in Dublin recently (at a gig promoted by sometime Sinister subbers). I found them very enjoyable, although it seems entirely reasonable that they will spend the rest of their lives fielding B&S comparisons, given that you can sing 'My Wandering Days Are Over' on top of one of their songs and some other tune over another. But they are still a toptastic band and I wuv them to death. I bought their earlier album at the gig and am looking forward to buying the new one at some stage. I'd better go to bed now, as I have a lot of vicaring tomorrow. but in the meantime, a big shout to Psi and the Northern Ireland posse. RoXoR. bless, DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: its just my opinion, and, what do i know...
by idleberry 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Hey sinister, Robin Stout cast the first dare/ stone: I think people should start sending in reviews of the new album. Go on, it's not long till it's released.. The new album huh? I think I'm going to make myself unpopular here, and say I don't like DCW. A few points to note: I'm not looking for Tigermilk part 5. This has been suggested, and I think it is a bit lame for anyone to dismiss my opinion by suggesting that's why I don't like it. It seems to be a natural assumption that not liking the latest album means that you want old skool B&S back. Not true. I understand that music moves on, I just don't like this chosen route. Not once have I reminiced and wanted Tigermilk or IYFS or TBWTAS back. I loved those for what they were. I think there have been much better albums released of late. The argument that "don't compare it to their previous work, compare it to what else is around" doesn't really wash when you have bands around like the Aislers Set and Camera Obscura, who can release an album that I think, is pretty bloody good. I just can't get into the new album at all. To me, it sounds like all the half-arsed ideas that never made it onto the previous B&S releases have been shown the light of day, and released, and this isn't a reference to Lord Anthony, which I am not keen on. I fail to find anything remotely genius about "I'm a Cuckoo". I can imagine Stuart, sitting with notebook in hand on a park bench in Glasgow, pondering to himself... "cuckoo.. What ryhmes with cuckoo? poo, loo, mew, queue, two, too, dew, due, new, flu... thin-lizzy-oh..! yes! Thin Lizzy Oh! Torquay-oh! that'll do!" The lyrics, in my opinion, are weak. I don't like them. They used to write with sharpened wit, with intelligence. The innuendo used to be so much more subtle, and I enjoyed that. Yes, I am slightly talking about old-skool B&S, but it's not just old B&S that gave me that kick - it's something I find fundemental to my enjoyment of a song, be it B&S or any band that I listen to regularly. I'm hard to please, I know. There isn't anything that really catches my attention with the new album. I like Piazza, New York Catcher. The sort of albums I enjoy though tend to have more than one or two good songs. A good album, for me, is one that has several good songs, and perhaps a small minority of crap ones. I think the latest album is a little too sugary, a little overbaked, and a little egotisical. The songs , in my opinion, feel effortless, but rather than being casual and organic, they feel more like there has no interest at challenging their ablities to create a good song. It's a lazy album, as if half a dozen ideas have been randomly thrown into the album, and nobody bothered to think about it or listen. In an interview*, the link of which was recently posted by Richard Lander, Stuart said "I just got this image in my mind of a cake, of writing songs being like baking a cake. The autobiographical part of things is like the flour, and the romance side of things and the fantasy part are like the sugar and eggs." If that is the case, then this surely, has to be a fairy cake - too much sugar, too much colour and too many preservatives. It's rather too sickly to listen to more than a few times, too saccharine. I think it sounds... I dunno.. A little childish, a little infantile with the lyrics, and a little sugary with the over production. Its been completely over baked. There. Hate me. Love idles x ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re:Sinister: b+s documentary and new website
by Adrian Evans 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Robin Stout wrote: >I reckon Idleberry just wants Dear Catastrophe Waitress to be Tigermilk 5 I have to say that there does seem to be a twee siege mentality going on around here. I personally think DICKWARTS is fantastic turned up full blast in the Vauxhall Nova with the windows down sort of stuff. For that and that alone the new offering presents a change in direction for the better. The louder the better - can't wait for the first Iron Maiden cover version. Can any of the northern gits offer me some advice as to where to take a three year old in Glasgow or the near surrounding area?We're stopping over a couple of nights on the way back from a pilgrimage to Balamory and don't want to be stuck with going shopping...far too expensive. Adrian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: out of practice
by R.Playforth＠sussex.ac.uk 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

> > I wait ages to post to Sinister and then 3 come along at > once. This'll > probably be it for the year from me... > > WIFE SWAP > Was amazing television, and featured not only TBWTAS but > large chunks of > the rest of the B&S back catalogue. Truly they are the soundtrack to > dysfunctional families. > > GHD > Latterday deity though he may well be, don't be fooled by the oh so > innocent haircare empire. According to immortal consumer > watchdog, er, > Watchdog, his ceramic hair straighteners are potential > deathtraps! That is, > they fuse and smoke a bit if you're not careful. I knew he'd have his > revenge one day. > > BRIGHTONG > Look, everyone knows that Monday nights were MADE for having > a jolly down > to Brighton. I can't be hauling my ass up to London all the > time you know. > And it's the perfect way to avoid the risk of a potential > WRONG decision > re. London venues. AND it's near bloody CHRISTMAS which > demands kerazy > seaside jaunts and shopping. Tut, hardly rocket science is it kids? > > See you there! > > Archel xxx > > ******* Rachel Playforth Resources Assistant Sussex Language Institute University of Sussex Falmer, Brighton BN1 9QN +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: BlimX0r
by Hewitt, Stephen 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

ello babies OK, so I've been reading all your opinions vis a vis the new album and I'm listening to the Liz Kershaw show on radio 6 and she'd knocked together a little sampler of half a dozen of the tracks, and just as I was thinking: "Dear Catastrophe Waitress? Dear Jake Shillingford* MORE LIKE!!!!" it cut into the first 15 seconds of Lord Anthony and STOPPED me DEAD in my tracks and I wanted to sing along VERY LOUDLY in the office but couldn't as I work in a very quiet environment where shouting is not exactly usual and neither is BEAMING LIKE A LOON but I got away with that because my boss is in a meeting. So, I guess it is worth spending a tenner on at fopp for LA alone... *if you don't know who jake shillingford is, be thankful. Those of you who do, have you noticed that they're using "12 reasons why" on the Prem on Monday? I'm waiting for Matt Smith to start the programme with "ONE, shearer turns the night to day, TWO, angel's set up by tugay" etc... Anyway, on with the motley: KEITH said: All we need now is for George Dickie, Rodd and Northy to come back. Keith, you are *so* behind the times, George has his own haircare product company which sponsor top reality programme (well mrs carsmile likes it anyway) "the salon": http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/S/thesalon/index.html He is (and I quote) "a new religion for hair" apparently. MMMM Blimey, now Liz Kershaw is playing Gepetto by (quick check on google)Belly. I thought it was Salad for a minute... Amy's going to bangladesh and everything, I think this RoX0rs v hard. I'd suggest all of you in bangladesh drop her a line and meet up as she is super. And REEFACE and LYNRRD and THA DUKE and JIFFYPOPPER and ALLSORTSOFOTHERPPL (and YOU, I haven't forgotten YOU, obv.) have posted and isn't it nice :) Also johnfm said "whell of john" and I nearly fell off my chair, I'd forgotten all about the literally HOURS of fun we had playing that (before going to lick road clean wi' our tongues AND we were happy etcetc) ;) SGS offered to swap her wife (you'd get more putting him on ebay) and said: music in the ad for tonight's episode of "Wife Swap" is none other than the instrumental bit and whistling of TBWTAS. I am now tempted to watch. Does TV sampling pay anything worthwhile? I hope it throws some bling the band's way. As I understand it (from when the same piece was first used on teachers) the free to air channels in the UK can use what the heck they like and only have to pay the same as if they were playing it on the radio (ie next to nowt). Also I first saw the WS ad in the middle of teachers, which was highly confusing as I thought I hadn't been paying enough attention and teachers had in fact finished already... Also IDLES is WRONG and should have a FATWA declared on her in the name of aunt sadie IMMEDIATELY (possibly). (liz kershaw is now playing SHEILA TAKE A BOW and I want to dance, but that's a no-no also) OK I have now done no work for about 45 mins and I suppose I should go for a fag or something... Dates for the dairy: 11 October, ie tigerwanking is also BIG JIM'S BIRTHDAY 8 October, ie freakytrigger (http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/ftnite4.gif) is also TIM!H!O!P!KINS BIRTHDAY Ah, yes, before I forget, the GIG QUANDRY. As has been proved by science, belle and sebastian are RUBBISH in london, but this is obviously easier than going to brightong on a Monday night, also what if they are rub one night in london and great the other two WHAT IF YOU PICK THE WRONG ONE!!! Can someone else decide for me please? xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: is this my hometown?
by Stefano [Steady-State] 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

My Dear Sinisters Mark H. said a few of his colleagues think his a bit odd. I just think he is a lovely and still have to thank him properly for coming all the way down from O!X!F!O!R!D! to listen to the My Dear Killer gig about one month ago. And a couple of day after the south London black out that had left the tube in tatters for a while.that should be consider odd, but its definitely sweet! Thank you very much to Paul H. who came as well, thats was very nice of yours. Indeed. Talking about oddness that reminds me a couple of weeks ago I was standing in the pub at the Union with a few colleagues, as well. Actually, more or less the usual suspect. Still was August, in the tail of the heat wave, or something that. As usual after a few pints the conversation got out of control, and, as the Roman used to say, in vino veritas. Here is more lager then other, but alcohol is basically involved. Randomly talking about thirty-something related general disillusion and lack of satisfaction with everyday life A. pointed out all the good looking chaps in the place were we work are either taken, or dont wont to go out with people from work. And then, only the weird one remaining. As far as I remember Ive not been asked out by the dear A., I should be definitely included in the weird posse. Which is not so different from being considered odd. I always thought that a bit of mentalism is well, interesting, if not entertaining. It avoids boredom as well. B! ut, well, thank you very much for pointing it out! Something that ill be considered definitely odd by everyone who had known since well, thirteen I guess, is hearing me saying Im going to a club to dance. My main role in dancing events, before, well, I guess, December of a couple of years ago, has been trying to be as mimetic as possible with the wallpaper. Have you ever notice that there is a kind of tendency to paint the wall black in clubs? They are probably dark enough not to notice the colour the walls are painted anyway. I dont know what I thought was wrong with dancing. I think just I felt uncomfortable, generally out of place, and space, and overall silly. Guess, I was loosing it. It is surely things like having seen people dancing on teenage riot, or like dylan in the movies; being around at places such as How does it feel, the Silver Rocket, the Winchester club, which had made me changed my mind. Something which is not often so easy: I can be quite stupidly straight on my opinion, for how dull they are. Im wondering if is this what happiness is like? David mentioned there is a mk. II Tigermilking night year 2003, right after the football decider with turkey. I bet on turkey to be in the final of the world cup. They didnt make but deserved it. I tried to point it out to the booky but didnt work. They say only the final fixture was to be considered. Life is so unfair! And I am weird after all, So better go back to magnetic resonance and pencils for breakfast, Take care Your, rather steady Stefano +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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