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Sinister: Re: Echo's Answer (A duck's quack)
by Five Scal Louis 23 Jun '08

23 Jun '08

Jun 22, Hello marcobraca(a)libero.it :} {} Yes, I'm still here from 11 years! {} marco#7 {} {} hi Cal... If this is going to turn into a role call, I've been lurking for about 10.5 years... this is my 4th email in that time... I hope you're all still here in two years when I reach the magically fifth post... sure to be good so you'd better stick around :-) Louis -- Character is much easier kept than recovered. -Thomas Paine Dougal(a)compsoc.man.ac.uk +44(0)7777 601 691 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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R: Sinister: Re: Echo's Answer (A duck's quack)
by marcobraca＠libero.it 22 Jun '08

22 Jun '08

Yes, I'm still here from 11 years! marco#7 hi Cal... >----Messaggio originale---- >Da: calumn(a)gmail.com >Data: 21/06/2008 17.22 >A: <sinister(a)missprint.org> >Ogg: Sinister: Re: Echo's Answer (A duck's quack) > >Hello there you lot! > >On 20/06/2008, Gillian Kirby <the_sad_witch(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> Do you still exist, Sinister? Moreover, do I? Why silence? > >I'll quote, if I may... > >"Cogito, ergo sum" (Latin: "I think, therefore I am") - Rene Descartes >"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and >remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln > >I have, at least on Sinister, followed Honest Abe's tenet scrupulously >for a long while now but finally my operation has been completed and I >have had my scruples surgically removed! > >I'm glad that sinister is still alive and kicking (occasionally like a >Croatian penalty taker!) and after Gillian's query I decided to type a >quick missive to reassure you all that: Yes, I'm still here. Yes, My >badges (when I wear them) are always upside-down. Yes, I'm still in >the same job (nearly 10 years - a new record!) Yes, I'm happy and >healthy and neither wealthy nor wise and Ooh! I'm getting married! >(I'll not bore you with the details but a good part of my decision was >"If it's good enough for Struan...") > >Some of you I have kept in touch with "off-list" (albeit with varying >degrees of success) and some of you, to my eternal shame, I have not. >My bad, mea culpa and oops: I suck at keeping in touch, rest assured >that when and if I see you it'll be just like old times ;-) > >I have just read this the customary three times, I'll hit send now and >go watch CSS on Jonathan Woss. > >Calumn > >PS - I just thought I'd mention the fact that I'm still in love with >Aruni J's Sweet and Sour Tofu >(http://www.joannou. net/topofthestairs/sinifood/arunij.php#tofu) >although I have to admit to substituting chicken for the tofu, it all >tastes the same anyway ;-) >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty- faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +- + Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +- + Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: Echo's Answer (A duck's quack)
by Calumn 21 Jun '08

21 Jun '08

Hello there you lot! On 20/06/2008, Gillian Kirby <the_sad_witch(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Do you still exist, Sinister? Moreover, do I? Why silence? I'll quote, if I may... "Cogito, ergo sum" (Latin: "I think, therefore I am") - Rene Descartes "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln I have, at least on Sinister, followed Honest Abe's tenet scrupulously for a long while now but finally my operation has been completed and I have had my scruples surgically removed! I'm glad that sinister is still alive and kicking (occasionally like a Croatian penalty taker!) and after Gillian's query I decided to type a quick missive to reassure you all that: Yes, I'm still here. Yes, My badges (when I wear them) are always upside-down. Yes, I'm still in the same job (nearly 10 years - a new record!) Yes, I'm happy and healthy and neither wealthy nor wise and Ooh! I'm getting married! (I'll not bore you with the details but a good part of my decision was "If it's good enough for Struan...") Some of you I have kept in touch with "off-list" (albeit with varying degrees of success) and some of you, to my eternal shame, I have not. My bad, mea culpa and oops: I suck at keeping in touch, rest assured that when and if I see you it'll be just like old times ;-) I have just read this the customary three times, I'll hit send now and go watch CSS on Jonathan Woss. Calumn PS - I just thought I'd mention the fact that I'm still in love with Aruni J's Sweet and Sour Tofu (http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/sinifood/arunij.php#tofu) although I have to admit to substituting chicken for the tofu, it all tastes the same anyway ;-) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Echo's Answer
by Gillian Kirby 20 Jun '08

20 Jun '08

Do you still exist, Sinister? Moreover, do I? Why silence? ========================================== "I mean I seem to be thinking practically all the time. I mean it is my favourite recreation and sometimes I sit for hours and do not seem to do anything else but think. So this gentleman said a girl with brains ought to do something else with them besides think." - Anita Loos, Gentlemen Prefer Blondes What the butler saw: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hey_mippy/sets/72057594054138864/ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Monday morning wake up knowing that you've got to go to school
by idleberry 10 Jun '08

10 Jun '08

Hello Sinister. Today I hooked up my old pc (the one with MS outlook and therefore my Sinister subscription) to life again. I found a post from a few weeks back, from Sam Walton. And it made me feel a little nostalgic in the head. So I thought I'd write. Writing to you now, is a bit like finding an old letter from a pen friend, and then following up the address and thinking "maybe they still live there". At the very least, should you ever try that approach then remember to put a senders return address, in the even that the letter gets there and they can reply, or the new resident can write Elvis lyrics on them. (By which, I mean "return to sender", NOT "in the ghetto"). So this is what Sam Walton did. He made me want to put cyber pen to web paper and write to an old friend. How are you? What are you doing these days? Traditionally, I suppose this is the bit where I tell you about what I'm doing, I guess. I started out, back in 2000, writing to sinister as a rather bored student. I had ideas about the world back then. Not wrong ideas, but naive ones, perhaps, and there was something more energetic about me then. Impatient, certainly and while not angry, maybe a little more challenging. I had ideas, and the world was going to hear about them, whether it liked them or not. The world of course, being anyone within earshot, either on the web or in the pub, or my then boyfriend who kind of just had to listen as I put the world to rights. I think I'm a bit different now. I'm a student though, again, although a much more dedicated one this time. I still feel very much though, in my heart, like the girl who signed up to Sinister eight years back. Still awkward, still very uncool, still very capable of putting my foot in my mouth (and as such, I have tried to retire from being a loudmouth, to varying results depending on alcoholic content and or nerves). Still feeling very much like that when I try to be slightly fashionable, I am more Dot Cotton than Fearne Cotton. Albeit, minus the ciggies these days. I dress like your mum would approve. I stopped dressing in a way that fitted my circles, because I found they didn't fit my wobbles. Plus, I could never do it justice, and I'm ok with that. I prefer to look now, rather than to be. I was talking to my boyfriend the other day about music. We were sitting at his kitchen table, and I was working on a suduko and we were having coffee. I asked him about his favourite song. And I decided that mine is probably still the same one it was eight years ago. I've never found a song that makes me feel the same. It's Expectations by Belle and Sebastian, you know. We discussed their recent albums, and I have to confess, I'm no longer a fan. They're no longer my "favourite" band. And that's ok. But if people ask what I'm into, and I have a sneaking suspicion they won't know necessarily the bands I might suggest, then B&S still make an appearance in my conversations. But that song, it's still good. It makes me think of when I was a student. I used to listen to it, in particular, in my final year, walking along to university in Norwich, on my CD player. First thing in the morning (usually late) and walking along, past the houses and across the meadows; with morning dew on the ground, a bit of a cool spring air, lots of bright sunshine and trees casting dark morning shadows and cars queuing along the roads as people drive to work in rush hour. You can almost imagine them now, back in 2001, sitting in mondeos and listening to Virgin radio or Radio One with Chris Evans or Sara Cox. Everyone's dads and uncles drooling over Charlie Dimmock in Ground Force, and her undecked features. The question of the day on everyone's lips was who let the dogs out? And that song playing, just to me. It's a song, I think, which is for summer mornings. Not the sort of summer morning where you sit out on a patio, with a hot coffee and orange juice. I mean, an average, dewy mid-week sunny summer morning. That's what that song was made for. When I think about other songs I've liked since then, I've liked lots of different ones over the years. But that one. It's like looking back through an old photo album, and seeing that cute, shy, bookish boy at school who you fancied, and seeing a photo of him, and realising he was actually quite good looking, and that even time and fashion hasn't changed your opinion. And that's what happens, I suppose. idles xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: ()
by honey＠missprint.org 27 May '08

27 May '08

(This email will be entirely in brackets, as it is almost entirely parenthetical. It's a word! Look it up. I'm sorry if some, any or none of you tried to post to Sinister since I last said it was back and possibly working - it WAS and then it maybe WASN'T again for a bit, but it is again now. Be gentle with it, it's a little creaky. Please post ramblings! And if you post and get an error let me know. Oh yes.) (Oh and hi! Honey x) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Well, something's lost, and something's gained
by Ian Anscombe 07 May '08

07 May '08

This doesn't seem to have gone first time. Maybe I should take that as a sign, but I'm not going to. Attempt #2 xx Ian Ian Anscombe wrote: > Well, hello Sinister. Its nice to see you again. I'm not sure if I > ever posted to you drunk before. It seems almost unfeasible that I > didn't, and yet I don't remember such occurrences. I'm not really > sure that I'm drunk. I've had such a measly amount of alcohol that I > should be more sober than a Londoner waking up to find they've voted > for a ridiculous Tory Twat to be mayor, but it doesn't feel that way. > > Anyway...what was I going to say? I have no idea. I'm sure there was > a point to this but fuck knows what it was. And fuck is strangely > absent, so I have to recreate my own points from scratch. > > the sinister picnic then... that was nice, 10 years on. It was a > strange situation, walking up primrose hill, very late, but having > driven to London myself - the first change of many. I saw a little > indieboy, lovely hair and his equally cute indiegirl walking up the > hill. The weather was just right, that mix of sunshine and cloud that > seemed to grace every sinister picnic, and always made me think of > such events. I felt like I'd been walking ages, and was looking > forward to seeing you all sitting at the top. It was a far cry from > the first time I attended - seeing you all outside Camden station and > actually walking away initially, before coming back to say hello. And > yet, it still felt exciting. Perhaps this is one of the benefits of > not living in London - meeting your fellow Sinikids still feels > somehow eventful, and unique, and different from real life. > > Perhaps that was the ghost of Sinister-picnics past, the indie couple > walking up the hill. It reminded me of the people that used to come - > some of them were us, although I never really had the hair, or the > clothing, or the girl for that matter - but you all seemed so styled, > and cool, and vaguely intimidating. > What does the ghost of Sinister-picnics present resemble? A strange, > many-limbed beast. Yes, there's still a bottle of something alcoholic > in one hand, but there are new limbs. One holds the hand of a small > child, and though I'm sometimes slightly jealous this seems a > marvellous thing. One might hold a professional qualification, > quietly tucked away for the occasion, a picture of a partner, or a > sense of self-belief that didn't exist before. Oh yes, we've grown, > as I think a singer once opined. And we're not so much joined > together by a strange mutual relationship with a band any more. But > that's okay. > > I saw a new post, from a fragrant princess, the other day, and she asked: >> >> I promised you a long time ago that nothing would be lost right? > and Eric said something that ties in with it: > > If You're Feeling Sinister: the first boy I really had feelings for, > the boy that gave me a mixtape whose side A contained an entire album > from this strange band called Belle & Sebastian that he loved. I never > fell in love with the boy, but my relationship with the band is still > going strong, almost 10 years later. > > > Mine isn't - really. But Eric highlighted something. We do have a > relationship when we fall in love with a band. I don't think I ever > had such a deep one with a group of musicians. And I felt a bit hurt > when they started seeing other people, but they'd warned me from the > start that this is what they would be doing. I can't reconcile the > glibness of recent releases with the incredible tenderness and > fondness for the outsider apparent in the early days. I guess me and > those musicians grew apart, but I met a lot of beautiful friends > through this relationship, and those are people I can honestly say > I'll never forget. Ally said something standing on the hill, looking > out over London, about it all seeming the same, but different, us > being old now. And I felt simultaneously a pang for a feeling of > belonging I'd once experienced, and a gladness that I didn't have to > chase after that any more. You see, ghost of picnics present, I like > you as you are. I hope we'll keep meeting like this. When will I > see you again? > > I think I've been very idealistic about Sinister over the years, > partly because it was the first place I felt really accepted. I chose > to ignore the cliques and the fashions, because they didn't suit my > idea of what I...we....were about. Taking a step back and realising > I've taken my place in those groups is an interesting perspective. > There are people I rush to speak to at picnics, and people I've > somehow fallen into the pattern of not speaking to. Some of us did > eye-contact and a passing comment. I wanted to say more but that old > fear still exists. Fear that its not okay, for some reason, to talk > to someone - and why shouldn't it be? We've fallen into strange > self-defeating patterns of not speaking - comfort, or fear, or some > combination of both. Maybe this lack of chasing belonging isn't such > a great thing after all. > > I'm not sure if any of this is new. Any club has sub-groups. The > strange occasional assumption that longevity is some sort of marker of > quality or verity is an odd one. The excitement created when a member > of some golden age that only existed for...eighteen months, eighteen > weeks, eighteen minutes??.... pops up still makes me smile and sigh in > equal measure. The people I've loved here haven't been experienced > through that age, though they may remember it, so many newer people > have given something of themselves to our collective as the last 11 > years unfolded. We've experienced friendship in the present, and > we've changed the present through that friendship - and its this, not > some marvellous, mythical past, that make Sinister live on. > > Gayle said nothing remains the same, Honey said nothing is lost. In a > strange sort of way, they're both right. You don't really lose > something when you choose to let it go. Its through trying to keep > everything the same, clinging, terrified of it slipping away, that we > lose things. We lose them here, and now, and all we have is a past > when it was really ours to look upon. I'm glad we've grown, and we're > old, and there's still enough in the present to keep us meeting on > hills, miles from home. I'll meet you again, strange, many-legged > picnic monster - and I'm not even going to attempt to name-check your > parts. I'll only miss one, and every part is vital. > And, in a nod to tradition, this isn't the e-mail I intended to write, > but what the hell... I kiss you, Sinister list. In a nice, platonic > way, of course. I hope I'll see you again soon. > > xx > Ian > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Days like diamonds.
by Gayle E. Anderson 06 May '08

06 May '08

Sinister. Oh! How seeing the archive made me smile! Although, it seems to have disappeared again. I was at University when i found the archives were back, on a three hour break between classes. I attend Heriot-Watt in Riccarton, Edinburgh which is in the middle of sodding nowhere, there is little else to do on three hour breaks except go to the gym or sit on the internet. Except on sunny days, then a walk around campus is another option, it is quite beautiful- although it only kills a little time. Actually, I hate uni and I grudge all the time I spend there, but it is a means to an end and I am prepared to put in the time to get what I want from it. I had put IYFS on in the car, a day or two prior to the archives being put back. I had just felt like a change and there was nothing else I could be bothered with. I rarely ever listen to B&S these days, but as I listened to the album that day on my way home from Uni I felt my heart swell, I thought about picnics in parks on sunny days, and how much fun it had all been and all the wonderful people I had the pleasure of meeting. And I remembered the way I used to feel, the way I felt on my way to my first ever picnic, it was everything I though it would be and more. I made some lasting friends, and some that faded away. I remembered stupidly late nights chatting on #sinister and the #sinister stats, it WAS fun and I remember laughing a lot. And I remembered coming across this a while back, I'm almost scared to post it in case it disappears... but it hasn't yet so: http://home.swipnet.se/~w-63235/sinister/people.html I remembered always having something to do, somewhere to go, somewhere to be and there was always someone there. And it WAS all because of Sinister. I never thought I would ever remember feeling that way again. Maybe one day I will even feel that way again. I was away for a few years, and I stopped going to Glasgow and picnics and meeting new people, and for those few years I forgot all about it. And when I came back, so had most everybody else. This month sees my 9 year anniversary of my first post on Sinister. Wow. Nothing remains the same. #sinister is still there, and auntsadie still remembers you, come along and say hello. Who knows who you might end up running into. post fearless, Gayle E. Anderson. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: we´ve come a long long way together
by Jonathan Skinner 04 May '08

04 May '08

Hello, I know there are people out there... It´s strange reading things that I wrote 7 years ago and beyond. As I turn into my 24th year, i realise that nearly 1/3 of it was spent on this list. I grew up, in body at least in that time and the world started to change beyond all recognition, all changes that were reflected in this list. When I joined, i think i was in 2nd year of secondary school, i was 14. Now I am 24, living and working in Barcelona and with an amazing girl. I have been going through the archieves, looking at my own posts and posts that i remember fondly, its like hearing mention of long lost names that you recognise and want to reach out to again. It´s nice to see some action on here again. And its nice to have our pasts back as well. L.O.V.E Jonathan +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: it *was* a brilliant career
by Sam Walton 02 May '08

02 May '08

hello sinister i've spent this morning reading the archives. and quite a lot of last night, too. and, i suspect, i shall read the archives some more this evening while keeping one eye on the mayoral erection results coming in. thank you to honey for doing all the housework. if you haven't had a look at them, you really should. maybe everybody just likes looking at old photos of themselves at some level (and, i admit, i'm quite amused by my own posts), but there's something more than that going on here – honey's right about them being a massive historical document, but not just in terms of b&s's (and their fans') progress and the history of the social web. they're also really interesting reflections on the news in general: the posts that immediately followed 9/11 (and 7/7 to a lesser extent) are beautifully written and fascinating to look back on with 7 years' hindsight. then there's all the little memes that ran around the list: i came across juicy lucy's poetry parrot somewhere, and a particularly eloquent ink polaroid by stevie trousers somewhere else, and remembered what an education the list gave me. and, in fact, leafing through the archives again, i'm being educated a second time round. and then of course there were the fights. i always found these quite funny, in the same way that i smile whenever i see footballers kicking chunks out of each other – it was always so petty and sniping, and distance has only improved it. but rising above the general ire, always, was mark casarotto's utterly brilliant bolshiness (for just one example, try this for size: http://www.missprint.org/archives/html/sinister/2003-03/msg00020.html) quite spectacular at times. i remember thinking that i quite wanted to be him in 2001 – i was quite a fan. as the art of writing a snotty email has been rarefied in recent years, as everybody learns the nuances of email and how to stick the knife in electronically, casarotto really was ahead of his time. reading the archives has really made me want to see some sinister people again, but unfortunately i can't come to the picnic. it's my girlfriend's birthday on saturday and i don't think it would wash if i changed our plans so that i could go and hang out with some people i met on a belle & sebastian website 8 years ago. but if anyone's going to see tindersticks in the evening, who knows, you might bump into me – please, do come and say hello. but go on, read the archives. reward honey's hard work in restoring it all, and reward your own hard work that you put in 5, 6, 7 or however many years ago. love, (never thought i'd type this again) asm.x ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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